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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,714 --> 00:00:07,633 Look at this man! I'm telling you, ladies, 2 00:00:07,633 --> 00:00:09,051 send your kids out of the room, 3 00:00:09,051 --> 00:00:12,971 because I want you to take a look at Bam Bam Bigelow. 4 00:00:12,971 --> 00:00:15,265 There's no one who doesn't know Bam Bam Bigelow. 5 00:00:15,265 --> 00:00:17,434 And, if they don't know his name, 6 00:00:17,434 --> 00:00:20,395 if they see the face and the head, they know it. 7 00:00:20,395 --> 00:00:22,189 His entire head was a flame. 8 00:00:22,189 --> 00:00:24,608 So, he started doing the flames on his suits and 9 00:00:24,608 --> 00:00:26,485 his boots, and you'd look out into the audience 10 00:00:26,485 --> 00:00:27,736 and the flame everywhere. 11 00:00:27,736 --> 00:00:29,613 Bam! Oh! Wow! 12 00:00:29,613 --> 00:00:33,158 He was just massive, but so athletic. 13 00:00:33,158 --> 00:00:34,409 So quick. 14 00:00:34,409 --> 00:00:36,703 Bammer, he did it almost like a ballet dancer. 15 00:00:36,703 --> 00:00:38,455 Bigelow can move for a big man. 16 00:00:38,455 --> 00:00:40,082 He knows what he's doing in there. 17 00:00:40,082 --> 00:00:44,002 Look at this 400-pound man doing flips, cartwheels... 18 00:00:44,002 --> 00:00:46,630 going through the ring, this is crazy. 19 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:49,466 In his time in the 80s, nobody was like him. 20 00:00:49,466 --> 00:00:50,884 Like, this isn't right. 21 00:00:50,884 --> 00:00:52,427 It wasn't just "Rookie of the Year", 22 00:00:52,427 --> 00:00:53,720 it was "Phenomenon of the Year." 23 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,140 Bam Bam Bigelow! 24 00:00:57,140 --> 00:00:59,851 Arriving on the scene like a force of nature, 25 00:00:59,851 --> 00:01:02,437 Bam Bam Bigelow catapulted to the top of the 26 00:01:02,437 --> 00:01:04,856 wrestling world and never looked back. 27 00:01:04,856 --> 00:01:06,566 You need a little excitement? 28 00:01:06,566 --> 00:01:09,736 When you've been on top in WWE and then you've 29 00:01:09,736 --> 00:01:12,531 been on the tippety top top in ECW, you know, 30 00:01:12,531 --> 00:01:15,867 they beat the ---- out of each other. 31 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:19,454 Wrestling rewarded Bam Bam's talents with money and fame, 32 00:01:19,454 --> 00:01:22,457 but those rewards came with a heavy price. 33 00:01:22,457 --> 00:01:23,834 All the wear and tear, 34 00:01:23,834 --> 00:01:25,836 you're not gonna feel it right away. 35 00:01:25,836 --> 00:01:27,170 But it's coming. 36 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:29,590 And that's when it changed. 37 00:01:29,590 --> 00:01:32,426 And everything spiralled out of control. 38 00:01:32,426 --> 00:01:34,761 You're selling your body, you're selling your health, 39 00:01:34,761 --> 00:01:38,765 to have fame, fortune and everything that goes with it. 40 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:42,060 People had mouths to feed, so guys did 41 00:01:42,060 --> 00:01:44,438 what they had to do to earn their living. 42 00:01:44,438 --> 00:01:48,108 He was in pain, and there was a doctor involved that 43 00:01:48,108 --> 00:01:50,068 was willing to take that away, 44 00:01:50,068 --> 00:01:52,904 and things went downhill from there. 45 00:01:52,904 --> 00:01:55,782 But Bam Bam's addictions eventually push him 46 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:57,576 beyond the point of redemption, 47 00:01:57,576 --> 00:02:01,121 destroying everything he loved. 48 00:02:01,121 --> 00:02:04,875 A trusted professional gave him the thing 49 00:02:04,875 --> 00:02:07,711 that was his biggest demise. 50 00:02:07,711 --> 00:02:09,171 This doctor, he could have handed 51 00:02:09,171 --> 00:02:11,256 a loaded machine gun to our family. 52 00:02:11,256 --> 00:02:13,383 It would have been no different. 53 00:02:13,383 --> 00:02:15,260 No different. 54 00:02:15,260 --> 00:02:17,679 ♪ 55 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:23,060 ♪ 56 00:02:23,060 --> 00:02:25,937 So, I'm just digging through the vast archives, 57 00:02:25,937 --> 00:02:27,522 we have Dad's calendar, 58 00:02:27,522 --> 00:02:31,777 and then if you go to November 15, 1987, 59 00:02:31,777 --> 00:02:34,071 he got married, and then, you know, 60 00:02:34,071 --> 00:02:35,155 not even taking a honeymoon. 61 00:02:35,155 --> 00:02:36,448 Like, he had a day off, 62 00:02:36,448 --> 00:02:38,075 and then he was in Des Moines, Iowa. 63 00:02:38,075 --> 00:02:39,868 This is literally the first four days of his career 64 00:02:39,868 --> 00:02:42,954 with the WWF in 1987. 65 00:02:42,954 --> 00:02:44,790 He definitely wanted kids right away. 66 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:46,833 He was like, "I just want to stay home and raise the kids. 67 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:48,293 You could go to work, go to school, 68 00:02:48,293 --> 00:02:49,461 do what you want to do." 69 00:02:49,461 --> 00:02:51,838 And he was more excited about being a dad 70 00:02:51,838 --> 00:02:54,800 than he was when he got Wrestlemania. 71 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,551 Hi, I'm Dana Breckenridge. 72 00:02:56,551 --> 00:02:58,303 I was married to Bam Bam Bigelow. 73 00:02:58,303 --> 00:03:00,347 And when Ricci came, I mean, 74 00:03:00,347 --> 00:03:02,891 that was the best thing ever. 75 00:03:02,891 --> 00:03:05,268 'Cause alls he ever really wanted was a daughter. 76 00:03:05,268 --> 00:03:07,604 Oh yeah, he was a giant teddy bear. 77 00:03:07,604 --> 00:03:11,233 What fans saw in the ring was not at all 78 00:03:11,233 --> 00:03:12,651 what we saw at home. 79 00:03:12,651 --> 00:03:14,528 It was love, it was playing around. 80 00:03:14,528 --> 00:03:15,862 My name is Ricci Bigelow, 81 00:03:15,862 --> 00:03:17,989 and my father is Bam Bam Bigelow. 82 00:03:17,989 --> 00:03:20,033 We had this giant, giant bed that 83 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:22,285 we would all cuddle up in. Just jump around. 84 00:03:22,285 --> 00:03:24,079 Yeah, it was a great time. 85 00:03:27,666 --> 00:03:30,419 It was the last time I saw him. 86 00:03:30,419 --> 00:03:32,003 We were just driving in the car, 87 00:03:32,003 --> 00:03:33,505 and I was 2 or 3 years old, 88 00:03:33,505 --> 00:03:39,344 but I remember seeing his head slowly drop to his chest 89 00:03:39,344 --> 00:03:41,221 and then come back up. 90 00:03:41,221 --> 00:03:44,683 And whenever I think back on how I went about 91 00:03:44,683 --> 00:03:46,560 the situation I'm always so baffled, 92 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,022 because I was so young, but in some way I understood that 93 00:03:51,022 --> 00:03:53,275 we were in some sort of danger. 94 00:03:53,275 --> 00:03:57,320 And as a toddler, I went into panic mode. 95 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,281 "I gotta go to the bathroom! I gotta get out. 96 00:03:59,281 --> 00:04:00,657 Daddy, Daddy, pull over, I can't!" 97 00:04:00,657 --> 00:04:03,368 So we pulled over on the side of the road, 98 00:04:03,368 --> 00:04:04,745 and he looked at me and gave me 99 00:04:04,745 --> 00:04:06,705 this big toothless smile. 100 00:04:06,705 --> 00:04:08,457 He's like, "Come on, do you have to go?" 101 00:04:08,457 --> 00:04:09,791 Like it was just on the side of the road. 102 00:04:09,791 --> 00:04:12,836 And I was like, "No, no." But kind of stalling, 103 00:04:12,836 --> 00:04:14,629 and then we just got back on the road, 104 00:04:14,629 --> 00:04:17,007 and it started happening again. 105 00:04:17,007 --> 00:04:18,550 This time we were by a diner, 106 00:04:18,550 --> 00:04:20,927 and we pulled into that diner, 107 00:04:20,927 --> 00:04:25,974 and the next thing I know my car door was opened, 108 00:04:25,974 --> 00:04:28,518 and a man just scooped me up and 109 00:04:28,518 --> 00:04:30,854 put me in the back of this grey car. 110 00:04:30,854 --> 00:04:33,023 And, from the backseat I watched them 111 00:04:33,023 --> 00:04:36,568 take my dad in handcuffs, across. 112 00:04:36,568 --> 00:04:38,111 That was it. 113 00:04:38,111 --> 00:04:39,571 My mom came and picked me up, 114 00:04:39,571 --> 00:04:41,573 and she was real gentle about it, 115 00:04:41,573 --> 00:04:44,242 and she told me, "You're probably not going 116 00:04:44,242 --> 00:04:48,413 to be seeing Daddy anymore. He needs help." 117 00:04:48,413 --> 00:04:51,208 And that was the last time I saw him. 118 00:04:51,208 --> 00:04:52,459 He wanted to be a wrestler, 119 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:56,046 but he wanted to be a father more. 120 00:04:56,046 --> 00:04:58,590 And, um, everything was taken away. 121 00:04:58,590 --> 00:05:02,135 So, was wrestling what took it away? 122 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:05,847 Or was Scott and all the other outside influences 123 00:05:05,847 --> 00:05:10,852 what took it away? Like, how did this happen? 124 00:05:10,852 --> 00:05:14,397 Oh here we go. 125 00:05:14,397 --> 00:05:18,068 This is Dad sophomore year, in high school. 126 00:05:18,068 --> 00:05:19,736 Oh my God. 127 00:05:19,736 --> 00:05:22,489 Right? They were Class A North champions. 128 00:05:22,489 --> 00:05:23,990 20 and 6. 129 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:25,742 That's probably the last time you'll see him with hair. 130 00:05:25,742 --> 00:05:27,661 [Laughing] 131 00:05:27,661 --> 00:05:30,038 Everything around Asbury Park is Bruce Springsteen. 132 00:05:30,038 --> 00:05:32,791 The sound of Bruce Springsteen is everywhere and 133 00:05:32,791 --> 00:05:36,586 in everything that we did when we grew up on The Shore. 134 00:05:36,586 --> 00:05:39,548 Scott was a street kid from Neptune who hung out in 135 00:05:39,548 --> 00:05:41,132 the bars of Asbury, you know, 136 00:05:41,132 --> 00:05:43,426 driving the circuit in muscle cars. 137 00:05:43,426 --> 00:05:47,055 For our age and our crowd he was definitely the man. 138 00:05:47,055 --> 00:05:49,641 You know what, he was probably the kindest, 139 00:05:49,641 --> 00:05:51,893 most genuine person of the group. 140 00:05:51,893 --> 00:05:54,354 We were friends and it was just a progression, 141 00:05:54,354 --> 00:05:57,732 and then it was a whirlwind, we were street kids. 142 00:05:57,732 --> 00:05:59,484 Nobody thought about where they were going. 143 00:05:59,484 --> 00:06:01,069 I didn't go to college, my friends didn't 144 00:06:01,069 --> 00:06:03,655 go to college, he didn't go to college. 145 00:06:03,655 --> 00:06:09,661 God, the Jersey Shore was like, the party place to be. 146 00:06:09,661 --> 00:06:12,539 I was running a club called Club Xanadu 147 00:06:12,539 --> 00:06:14,583 in Asbury Park, New Jersey. 148 00:06:14,583 --> 00:06:17,460 The club is actually one block from The Stone Pony, 149 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:21,298 and in the middle was this place called Quack Quack. 150 00:06:21,298 --> 00:06:23,592 It's DDP, Diamond Dallas Page, 151 00:06:23,592 --> 00:06:26,595 and I know Bam Bam because I'm from the Jersey Shore. 152 00:06:26,595 --> 00:06:27,846 -DDP! -Oh! 153 00:06:27,846 --> 00:06:29,514 We've got a new world champion, guys. 154 00:06:29,514 --> 00:06:31,683 I roll into the Quack Quack and 155 00:06:31,683 --> 00:06:34,519 I see this mammoth kid. 156 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:37,022 At some point, you know, we're doing shots and 157 00:06:37,022 --> 00:06:38,815 we just kind of clicked, you know, 158 00:06:38,815 --> 00:06:41,735 but I think he was 17 at the time, 159 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:43,486 but no one cared, 160 00:06:43,486 --> 00:06:45,196 'cause he looked like a full grown man. 161 00:06:45,196 --> 00:06:46,823 He was, you know, 300 plus pounds, 162 00:06:46,823 --> 00:06:49,701 and he could obviously be very menacing, 163 00:06:49,701 --> 00:06:52,621 but he also had that fun side to him. 164 00:06:52,621 --> 00:06:53,747 And they were calling him 165 00:06:53,747 --> 00:06:56,416 "The Beast from the East" back then. 166 00:06:56,416 --> 00:06:59,127 He was a football player and he was ranked in the state 167 00:06:59,127 --> 00:07:02,547 for wrestling, and he was feared on the mat and 168 00:07:02,547 --> 00:07:04,007 on the football field. 169 00:07:04,007 --> 00:07:06,384 This is the time when heavyweight in 170 00:07:06,384 --> 00:07:08,261 high school wrestling was unlimited. 171 00:07:08,261 --> 00:07:11,348 So, you're talking about a 320 pound teenager 172 00:07:11,348 --> 00:07:14,976 who can bench 500 pounds, walking onto a mat. 173 00:07:14,976 --> 00:07:16,269 I'm Shane Bigelow. 174 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:18,438 My father is Bam Bam Bigelow. 175 00:07:18,438 --> 00:07:20,398 I heard a story from a high school wrestling coach that 176 00:07:20,398 --> 00:07:22,776 my father rolled his ankle real bad and he couldn't 177 00:07:22,776 --> 00:07:25,278 wrestle, but his coach was just like, "Scotty, 178 00:07:25,278 --> 00:07:27,989 I need you to just go up there and just look mean." 179 00:07:27,989 --> 00:07:30,075 So he gets up, he steps up on the scale, 180 00:07:30,075 --> 00:07:31,618 and he turns to the kid and he just gives him this 181 00:07:31,618 --> 00:07:34,037 big flex, just like, "I'm coming for you!" 182 00:07:34,037 --> 00:07:37,040 Lo and behold this kid is shitting his pants. 183 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,708 So, he tells his coach, "I'm not wrestling this guy, 184 00:07:38,708 --> 00:07:40,460 he's going to rip my ----ing head off." 185 00:07:40,460 --> 00:07:43,254 All my father had to do, he hopped out on one leg, 186 00:07:43,254 --> 00:07:46,007 got his hand raised, and took the win. 187 00:07:46,007 --> 00:07:47,717 Yeah, there was a group of the boys and 188 00:07:47,717 --> 00:07:51,763 they were rough drinking, tattooed, like old sailors, 189 00:07:51,763 --> 00:07:53,306 but not sailors, they were roofers. 190 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:54,474 [Laughing] 191 00:07:54,474 --> 00:07:58,103 And they were very infamous around town. 192 00:07:58,103 --> 00:08:00,897 Him and his brothers used to jump off of billboards 193 00:08:00,897 --> 00:08:03,108 onto mattresses on the side of the road. 194 00:08:03,108 --> 00:08:04,776 My grandmother would drive past, she would be like, 195 00:08:04,776 --> 00:08:06,653 "Oh look at those kids." And then she'd realize that 196 00:08:06,653 --> 00:08:08,738 it was her three boys jumping onto, like, 197 00:08:08,738 --> 00:08:11,032 five mattresses piled high. 198 00:08:11,032 --> 00:08:12,575 Scott was very quiet. 199 00:08:12,575 --> 00:08:14,077 You know, he was the baby of the bunch. 200 00:08:14,077 --> 00:08:15,537 They usually only called him in 201 00:08:15,537 --> 00:08:18,289 when they needed the extra muscle. 202 00:08:18,289 --> 00:08:19,874 I had heard he got into a fight and he bit 203 00:08:19,874 --> 00:08:23,044 some kid's ear off, it's like, what? [Laughing] 204 00:08:23,044 --> 00:08:24,921 But it's part of the legend that went with 205 00:08:24,921 --> 00:08:26,756 "The Beast from the East." 206 00:08:26,756 --> 00:08:29,426 Tough dude. He ran with rugged people. 207 00:08:29,426 --> 00:08:31,511 He was all that and a bag of chips, man, he was a, 208 00:08:31,511 --> 00:08:33,596 he was a bad apple when he wanted to be. 209 00:08:33,596 --> 00:08:35,015 I am Taz. 210 00:08:35,015 --> 00:08:36,975 Former ECW World Heavyweight Champion, 211 00:08:36,975 --> 00:08:41,146 and former opponent of Bam Bam Bigelow. 212 00:08:41,146 --> 00:08:43,898 Bam Bam Bigelow all over Taz. 213 00:08:43,898 --> 00:08:45,734 I've heard all the stories about Bigelow, 214 00:08:45,734 --> 00:08:47,152 and I believe them all. 215 00:08:47,152 --> 00:08:49,779 There's a whole separate legend before The Legend 216 00:08:49,779 --> 00:08:53,700 Bam Bam Bigelow ever became The Legend. 217 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:55,744 My name is Scott Colton Bigelow, 218 00:08:55,744 --> 00:08:58,204 and Bam Bam Bigelow is my father. 219 00:08:58,204 --> 00:09:01,916 I know that he was a bounty hunter for a short stint. 220 00:09:01,916 --> 00:09:05,128 I don't know much about the backstory of it. 221 00:09:19,601 --> 00:09:23,021 He was supposedly commissioned to go and 222 00:09:23,021 --> 00:09:24,647 bring back a young girl 223 00:09:24,647 --> 00:09:26,649 who was taken out of the country. 224 00:09:26,649 --> 00:09:30,361 In the whole mayday craziness of the thing, 225 00:09:30,361 --> 00:09:31,905 his bounty hunting partner ends up 226 00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:33,698 getting shot in the neck and killed. 227 00:09:33,698 --> 00:09:35,533 And that's when my dad spent 228 00:09:35,533 --> 00:09:38,119 six months in a Mexican prison. 229 00:09:38,119 --> 00:09:39,996 I heard he ended up in jail. 230 00:09:39,996 --> 00:09:41,790 You know, in Mexico. [Laughing] 231 00:09:41,790 --> 00:09:43,374 So you'd just hear little bits and pieces, 232 00:09:43,374 --> 00:09:45,752 and with Scotty, they could be exaggerated. 233 00:09:45,752 --> 00:09:48,546 The story is he befriended the judge because he used to 234 00:09:48,546 --> 00:09:50,381 run through the walls that were made out of, like, 235 00:09:50,381 --> 00:09:51,925 the terracotta clay. 236 00:09:51,925 --> 00:09:53,426 He used to just break through the cells of the walls 237 00:09:53,426 --> 00:09:55,470 so they couldn't keep him in. 238 00:09:55,470 --> 00:09:57,263 So the judge one day apparently goes to him 239 00:09:57,263 --> 00:09:58,515 and asks him, he goes, 240 00:09:58,515 --> 00:10:02,018 "I need security from all these cartel, mob, 241 00:10:02,018 --> 00:10:03,561 whatever guys. 242 00:10:03,561 --> 00:10:05,563 So you stand in front of me and you stop these maniacs 243 00:10:05,563 --> 00:10:07,649 from like, lunging at me, and trying to kill me, 244 00:10:07,649 --> 00:10:09,734 and I'll knock your sentence down." 245 00:10:09,734 --> 00:10:12,529 So the story is that a judge took pity on my father 246 00:10:12,529 --> 00:10:14,114 because my father saved him from a 247 00:10:14,114 --> 00:10:16,533 bunch of guys trying to jump over and stab him, 248 00:10:16,533 --> 00:10:18,910 and he ended up letting him loose early. 249 00:10:18,910 --> 00:10:20,954 He's basically a New Jersey legend. 250 00:10:20,954 --> 00:10:25,124 There's a story that, uh, one night a house is on fire, 251 00:10:25,124 --> 00:10:27,710 he's driving by, runs in and saves some kids. 252 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:30,171 He pulled over, ran in the house and saved the kids. 253 00:10:30,171 --> 00:10:32,131 That sounds like a TV movie. 254 00:10:32,131 --> 00:10:35,093 It doesn't sound like stuff that really happens, you know? 255 00:10:35,093 --> 00:10:37,262 And, uh, there were a lot of stories like that, 256 00:10:37,262 --> 00:10:38,888 just out there floating around. 257 00:10:38,888 --> 00:10:41,224 I'm Shane Douglas and I had the pleasure of being 258 00:10:41,224 --> 00:10:44,811 partners in The Triple Threat with Bam Bam Bigelow. 259 00:10:44,811 --> 00:10:47,689 Who's the [Beep] world champion? 260 00:10:47,689 --> 00:10:49,524 You know, as I had heard that he got arrested, 261 00:10:49,524 --> 00:10:50,984 I guess in Mexico. 262 00:10:50,984 --> 00:10:53,027 You know, that sounds implausible. 263 00:10:53,027 --> 00:10:55,280 But then, like, over years you'd hear other people 264 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,906 repeating these stories and I'm just, 265 00:10:56,906 --> 00:10:58,950 elevating that legend that was Bam Bam. 266 00:11:06,207 --> 00:11:08,751 Here comes Bam Bam in the club, 267 00:11:08,751 --> 00:11:12,755 and this is like '81-ish, and it's packed. 268 00:11:12,755 --> 00:11:14,132 My club was nice. 269 00:11:14,132 --> 00:11:16,092 And I see Bam roll in with like three of his 270 00:11:16,092 --> 00:11:18,636 biker buddies, and I come rolling up behind him, 271 00:11:18,636 --> 00:11:21,848 put my arm around his back, I'm like, "Yo, Bammer. 272 00:11:21,848 --> 00:11:24,684 No trouble in here tonight, right bro?" 273 00:11:24,684 --> 00:11:27,478 "Aw come on Page, I wouldn't do that to you." 274 00:11:27,478 --> 00:11:29,689 And at some point we're at the bar and 275 00:11:29,689 --> 00:11:31,024 I bought, you know, got the guys a shot, 276 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:33,193 and uh, wrestling comes up. 277 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:36,070 And, you know, I said, "You know, I tried that, 278 00:11:36,070 --> 00:11:39,866 in '79." He goes, "You tried wrestling?" 279 00:11:39,866 --> 00:11:41,284 And I said, "But I had three matches. 280 00:11:41,284 --> 00:11:43,494 My third match I hurt my knee, and I kind of 281 00:11:43,494 --> 00:11:46,414 got swept away by the booze, the broads, and the party." 282 00:11:46,414 --> 00:11:48,166 But talking to him about it, you know, I'm like, 283 00:11:48,166 --> 00:11:50,001 "Dude, you're a natural." He goes, "I've, I, 284 00:11:50,001 --> 00:11:51,711 that would, that would be a, that would be a 285 00:11:51,711 --> 00:11:53,129 pie in the sky dream for me." 286 00:12:08,645 --> 00:12:10,939 So, Larry Sharpe was a former amateur wrestler... 287 00:12:10,939 --> 00:12:12,857 Who opened up the Monster Factory. 288 00:12:12,857 --> 00:12:14,275 My name is Dave Meltzer. 289 00:12:14,275 --> 00:12:15,693 I'm the editor of The Wrestling Observer Newsletter 290 00:12:15,693 --> 00:12:18,321 and I've been covering pro wrestling since 1971. 291 00:12:18,321 --> 00:12:21,366 And, one day I guess Bam Bam walked in the door, 292 00:12:21,366 --> 00:12:25,244 and Larry saw, like everyone did, money! 293 00:12:25,244 --> 00:12:27,747 And he became Scott's "manager". 294 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:30,249 Set him up on a couch, threw him in the ring, 295 00:12:30,249 --> 00:12:31,251 and trained him. 296 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:41,886 I saw footage of him coming out of the Monster Factory. 297 00:12:41,886 --> 00:12:44,472 You could tell, like, his aptitude to learn 298 00:12:44,472 --> 00:12:47,475 how to do this and get better at this, his athleticism, 299 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:49,352 it jumped out to me right away. 300 00:12:49,352 --> 00:12:51,437 I mean, seeing a guy like that, you know, 301 00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:54,399 a guy that big, you know, do a cartwheel, I was like, 302 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:56,609 "Wow." I mean, he's super impressive. 303 00:12:56,609 --> 00:12:58,319 For Scott, professional wrestling, 304 00:12:58,319 --> 00:13:00,154 it's like a double edged sword. 305 00:13:00,154 --> 00:13:02,532 It gave him life and it took his life. 306 00:13:02,532 --> 00:13:04,659 That's the ultimate double edge, isn't it? 307 00:13:11,291 --> 00:13:15,211 In 1985, Scott Bigelow was on the brink of stardom, 308 00:13:15,211 --> 00:13:18,006 having made a clean break from a troubled past. 309 00:13:18,006 --> 00:13:19,841 When he went to the Monster Factory 310 00:13:19,841 --> 00:13:21,259 with Larry Sharpe, 311 00:13:21,259 --> 00:13:24,303 Larry really developed the name Bam Bam. 312 00:13:24,303 --> 00:13:26,848 With Scott, Bam Bam. The strong babyface. 313 00:13:26,848 --> 00:13:29,267 You're like, "Bam Bam, from the Flintstones." 314 00:13:29,267 --> 00:13:31,394 So, he became Bam Bam Bigelow. 315 00:13:31,394 --> 00:13:33,229 Probably the most handsome wrestler 316 00:13:33,229 --> 00:13:34,689 on the face of the earth. 317 00:13:34,689 --> 00:13:36,482 The massive head of Bam Bam, 318 00:13:36,482 --> 00:13:38,943 and that big flame bowl on that head. 319 00:13:38,943 --> 00:13:40,236 That tattoo. 320 00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:42,030 Who gets ink on their head has gotta be crazy. 321 00:13:42,030 --> 00:13:43,489 Nevertheless their whole head. 322 00:13:43,489 --> 00:13:44,949 For those that never got a tattoo, 323 00:13:44,949 --> 00:13:47,201 they hurt as much as they think, okay? [Laughing] 324 00:13:47,201 --> 00:13:49,037 This guy got his skull tattooed. 325 00:13:49,037 --> 00:13:50,538 Just imagine how much pain, 326 00:13:50,538 --> 00:13:53,124 and how many hours that took to do. 327 00:13:53,124 --> 00:13:56,294 This was the branding of Bam Bam Bigelow. 328 00:13:56,294 --> 00:13:58,379 See people love to hate, and as long as 329 00:13:58,379 --> 00:14:01,257 they wanna hate me, I know I'm doing my job. 330 00:14:01,257 --> 00:14:04,844 And it kind of just sent that message to the fans and 331 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:07,430 to other wrestlers, that's a bad dude right there. 332 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:08,556 And Bammer, do you have anything to say about 333 00:14:08,556 --> 00:14:10,183 all of this? -I'm hungry. 334 00:14:10,183 --> 00:14:13,019 Despite being a rookie to the wrestling scene, 335 00:14:13,019 --> 00:14:15,021 those with an eye for the business see 336 00:14:15,021 --> 00:14:17,440 Bam Bam's incredible potential. 337 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,942 Especially soon-to-be industry pioneer, 338 00:14:19,942 --> 00:14:21,360 Paul Heyman. 339 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,280 Paul was doing wrestling magazines at the time. 340 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,491 This was before he was actually running around 341 00:14:26,491 --> 00:14:28,076 the business as a manager. 342 00:14:28,076 --> 00:14:29,452 And in his magazines he was always promoting 343 00:14:29,452 --> 00:14:31,996 Bam Bam Bigelow like this, this phenomenon. 344 00:14:31,996 --> 00:14:33,581 And the guy had never even had a match. 345 00:14:33,581 --> 00:14:36,209 Paul worked at Studio 54, he was doing publicity 346 00:14:36,209 --> 00:14:39,462 at the time, and he got this, you know, gig. 347 00:14:39,462 --> 00:14:41,756 Bam Bam Bigelow's first match. 348 00:14:41,756 --> 00:14:45,051 And I looked at it, and I was just like, "Oh my God. 349 00:14:45,051 --> 00:14:47,136 This guy is like 380 pounds, 350 00:14:47,136 --> 00:14:48,763 and he's coming off the top rope." 351 00:14:48,763 --> 00:14:50,348 At that point, you know, I'm going, like, 352 00:14:50,348 --> 00:14:52,058 "This guy is gonna be like, it." 353 00:14:52,058 --> 00:14:53,684 [Crowd cheering] 354 00:14:53,684 --> 00:14:55,395 In wrestling, like, he's gonna be the biggest thing. 355 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:58,147 I was like 19 when we started dating, 356 00:14:58,147 --> 00:15:00,942 and I was with his brother and a couple other friends, 357 00:15:00,942 --> 00:15:03,486 and we went to his show, and he got up there and 358 00:15:03,486 --> 00:15:06,864 he wrestled, and they were just in awe of what it all was. 359 00:15:06,864 --> 00:15:09,242 I just was like, "Oh you know, he's at work." 360 00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:10,827 I didn't really know too much about it 361 00:15:10,827 --> 00:15:13,871 until the WWF came back. 362 00:15:13,871 --> 00:15:16,541 At some point I'm running another really big club 363 00:15:16,541 --> 00:15:19,794 in '86-ish, and I'm flicking the channels, 364 00:15:19,794 --> 00:15:22,130 and all of a sudden I see him wrestling. 365 00:15:22,130 --> 00:15:25,174 I'm like, "Oh my God! That's Bigelow!" 366 00:15:25,174 --> 00:15:27,718 Take a good look, because we're bringing him 367 00:15:27,718 --> 00:15:30,054 from one end of the world to the other. 368 00:15:30,054 --> 00:15:31,848 Next thing I know, he's with Hulk Hogan, 369 00:15:31,848 --> 00:15:35,977 he's in the WWF, and I'm like, "Oh my God." 370 00:15:35,977 --> 00:15:39,355 From Asbury Park, New Jersey! 371 00:15:39,355 --> 00:15:40,815 He made it. 372 00:15:40,815 --> 00:15:44,569 -Bam Bam Bigelow. -[Cheering] 373 00:15:44,569 --> 00:15:47,697 Not only is Bam Bam headed to the WWF, 374 00:15:47,697 --> 00:15:49,907 but he's coming in with the full support of 375 00:15:49,907 --> 00:15:52,326 company owner, Vince McMahon. 376 00:15:52,326 --> 00:15:54,078 WWF brought him in, and, you know, 377 00:15:54,078 --> 00:15:56,956 they tried to make him into the next big thing. 378 00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:58,875 You know, they did the thing where all the managers were 379 00:15:58,875 --> 00:16:01,878 bidding on him to make him extra special. 380 00:16:01,878 --> 00:16:06,257 I'm here to introduce Bam Bam Bigelow. 381 00:16:06,257 --> 00:16:09,177 Vince loved big guys, and now you've got the most agile 382 00:16:09,177 --> 00:16:13,514 380 pound guy that anyone has ever seen. 383 00:16:13,514 --> 00:16:14,849 I mean, they brought him in to be Hulk Hogan's 384 00:16:14,849 --> 00:16:17,226 tag team partner, to be right there with Hogan, 385 00:16:17,226 --> 00:16:18,603 and he was gonna main event there, 386 00:16:18,603 --> 00:16:20,146 and he was gonna work with the top guys. 387 00:16:28,946 --> 00:16:31,574 He signed the WWE contract and we got married 388 00:16:31,574 --> 00:16:33,784 November 15th, 1987. 389 00:16:33,784 --> 00:16:36,913 And he went on the road November 16th, 1987. 390 00:16:39,207 --> 00:16:42,293 We were watching TV, and he was like... 391 00:16:42,293 --> 00:16:43,753 [Laughing] 392 00:16:43,753 --> 00:16:45,463 "Wanna get married?" [Laughing] 393 00:16:45,463 --> 00:16:47,340 And I was like, "Okay!" [Laughing] 394 00:16:47,340 --> 00:16:48,382 And that was basically it, 395 00:16:48,382 --> 00:16:49,675 there was no fanfare. 396 00:16:49,675 --> 00:16:53,012 I saw him ten times a year, I don't even know. 397 00:16:53,012 --> 00:16:54,931 Maybe that's why our marriage lasted so long, 398 00:16:54,931 --> 00:16:56,849 maybe that's why I don't have anything bad to say. 399 00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:59,393 He was on the road and hit the ground running, 400 00:16:59,393 --> 00:17:01,270 and it was on from there. 401 00:17:14,659 --> 00:17:18,246 When he was home, you know, he did regular things. 402 00:17:18,246 --> 00:17:20,790 So he remained very humble. 403 00:17:20,790 --> 00:17:22,583 Scott was who he was around here. 404 00:17:22,583 --> 00:17:25,753 But you know, it was cool to see him on TV. 405 00:17:25,753 --> 00:17:27,421 He was in the first Nintendo game. 406 00:17:27,421 --> 00:17:29,632 Like I said, he was just breaking into the business 407 00:17:29,632 --> 00:17:32,301 and he worked, and he provided. 408 00:17:32,301 --> 00:17:35,638 He knew to take advantage of that situation and to take 409 00:17:35,638 --> 00:17:38,349 advantage of everything that was given to him. 410 00:17:38,349 --> 00:17:40,184 What a monster! 411 00:17:40,184 --> 00:17:41,686 Everybody that gets a pair of boots and tights 412 00:17:41,686 --> 00:17:42,895 wants to be the world champion, right? 413 00:17:42,895 --> 00:17:44,605 And they think they're ready for it yesterday. 414 00:17:44,605 --> 00:17:48,317 For me it was 11 years before I saw a world title. 415 00:17:48,317 --> 00:17:51,445 So, when I did get that belt I understood 416 00:17:51,445 --> 00:17:53,447 the responsibility that went with it. 417 00:17:53,447 --> 00:17:55,157 So I would think that Bam Bam being thrown 418 00:17:55,157 --> 00:17:58,202 that quickly into main events with, you know, 419 00:17:58,202 --> 00:18:00,496 Hulk Hogan or one of these massive names, 420 00:18:00,496 --> 00:18:02,081 it would have been intimidating. 421 00:18:02,081 --> 00:18:04,041 He never had to crawl his way up. 422 00:18:04,041 --> 00:18:06,127 There's always going to be jealousy especially when 423 00:18:06,127 --> 00:18:07,670 you've been in the business 15 years, 424 00:18:07,670 --> 00:18:09,922 and he's been in the business for two, or one, 425 00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:11,882 and he's on the top of the card. 426 00:18:11,882 --> 00:18:14,635 He was young and these guys were big and it was 427 00:18:14,635 --> 00:18:17,013 George "The Animal" Steele, and King Kong Bundy. 428 00:18:17,013 --> 00:18:20,057 And it was just people that he always saw on TV and now 429 00:18:20,057 --> 00:18:21,851 all of a sudden he's standing in the middle of the ring 430 00:18:21,851 --> 00:18:24,687 in the Survivor Series, and the older guys were like, 431 00:18:24,687 --> 00:18:26,605 "You know what, you need to step in line." 432 00:18:26,605 --> 00:18:28,774 The eighth wonder of the world. 433 00:18:28,774 --> 00:18:30,526 I remember, there was an André match, 434 00:18:30,526 --> 00:18:32,695 of course André the Giant was the biggest man 435 00:18:32,695 --> 00:18:34,071 you'll ever see. 436 00:18:34,071 --> 00:18:37,408 André got him in the ring up against the ropes, 437 00:18:37,408 --> 00:18:39,994 and wrapped the rope around his neck. 438 00:18:39,994 --> 00:18:42,330 Scott was like, "He's gonna ----ing kill me. 439 00:18:42,330 --> 00:18:44,332 Yeah, he's gonna kill me." 440 00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:58,095 ♪ 441 00:19:02,641 --> 00:19:03,809 Look out! 442 00:19:03,809 --> 00:19:06,270 Even Bam Bam looks small next to this guy. 443 00:19:13,527 --> 00:19:15,071 So, you know André, he was on top of him and 444 00:19:15,071 --> 00:19:18,240 he was pounding on him. I mean, hard. 445 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,325 It was a bad night at the office 446 00:19:19,325 --> 00:19:20,701 for Bam Bam Bigelow. 447 00:19:20,701 --> 00:19:23,329 And André said something to him, like, "Young boy." 448 00:19:23,329 --> 00:19:25,122 You know, "'You're a little green for us." 449 00:19:25,122 --> 00:19:26,582 Like, "This is how it works." 450 00:19:26,582 --> 00:19:29,960 Like, "You're gonna learn." And André really just 451 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,755 stuck it to him, but, you know, they were just 452 00:19:32,755 --> 00:19:34,799 letting him know he had to pay his dues. 453 00:19:34,799 --> 00:19:37,343 He was green, and you need to wait your turn, 454 00:19:37,343 --> 00:19:38,969 'cause it's not right now. 455 00:19:38,969 --> 00:19:40,221 [Laughing] 456 00:19:40,221 --> 00:19:42,431 After only a year in the big leagues, 457 00:19:42,431 --> 00:19:45,101 Bam Bam Bigelow's match with André the Giant 458 00:19:45,101 --> 00:19:48,813 marks his exit from the WWF. 459 00:19:48,813 --> 00:19:50,231 He had gotten such a big push, 460 00:19:50,231 --> 00:19:53,734 but at a certain point they did sour on him. 461 00:19:53,734 --> 00:19:56,320 Bam Bam Bigelow paid the price here. 462 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,738 And it may have been, ego-wise, 463 00:19:57,738 --> 00:19:59,281 the other guys not liking him. 464 00:19:59,281 --> 00:20:02,493 My father, just knowing when things get a little too thick 465 00:20:02,493 --> 00:20:04,870 and it's not his time, he moved on. 466 00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:08,290 Now on his own, Bam Bam travels the country 467 00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:11,627 working for various US promotions before receiving 468 00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:15,131 a lucrative offer to wrestle in Japan. 469 00:20:15,131 --> 00:20:16,924 I don't even know what years these are, 470 00:20:16,924 --> 00:20:20,219 but judging by the suit, probably early '90s. 471 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:22,805 This is one of his original Japanese suits. 472 00:20:22,805 --> 00:20:25,933 There was more money for him to be had overseas. 473 00:20:33,649 --> 00:20:35,234 When he went to Japan he was on for two weeks 474 00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:36,694 and then home for two weeks. 475 00:20:36,694 --> 00:20:39,321 So he had longer stretches of time home. 476 00:20:42,491 --> 00:20:43,826 The contract. 477 00:20:43,826 --> 00:20:45,286 And it was time for him to come back to the States. 478 00:20:45,286 --> 00:20:47,872 I guess in his meeting with Vince, you know, 479 00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:49,582 they worked a deal. 480 00:20:49,582 --> 00:20:51,250 That he felt comfortable, and he was a little bit 481 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:52,918 more mature, and he was ready to come back. 482 00:20:57,965 --> 00:21:01,719 So this is his, uh, coming out to the ring attire 483 00:21:01,719 --> 00:21:05,181 when he was in his second run in the WWF. 484 00:21:05,181 --> 00:21:08,017 He would have pyrotechnics underneath here, 485 00:21:08,017 --> 00:21:10,895 and they would shoot, like, fireworks out. 486 00:21:10,895 --> 00:21:12,438 Oh, wow! 487 00:21:15,149 --> 00:21:18,277 I don't fill it out as much as, as much as he did. 488 00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:20,821 ♪ 489 00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:24,450 He said he used to look like a tulip in it. 490 00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:29,538 In 1992 as the WWF struggles with declining popularity, 491 00:21:29,538 --> 00:21:33,501 Vince McMahon brings Bam Bam back to the roster. 492 00:21:33,501 --> 00:21:36,587 Once again proving to be a top level star, 493 00:21:36,587 --> 00:21:38,839 Bam Bam gets thrust into the main event 494 00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:40,466 of WrestleMania XI... 495 00:21:40,466 --> 00:21:42,343 Wrestlemania 11! 496 00:21:42,343 --> 00:21:44,887 When McMahon books him against of the NFL's 497 00:21:44,887 --> 00:21:48,057 most celebrated players. 498 00:21:48,057 --> 00:21:49,433 Lawrence Taylor. 499 00:21:49,433 --> 00:21:51,560 Probably the most 500 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,022 media frenzied time of my father's career. 501 00:21:55,022 --> 00:21:58,317 That was Scott's idol, like, LT and the Giants. 502 00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:00,152 Like, "Now I'm gonna wrestle him." You know? 503 00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:01,529 "I'm gonna wrestle with him." 504 00:22:01,529 --> 00:22:07,451 That build up and that whole pomp and circumstance of 505 00:22:07,451 --> 00:22:09,703 being the main event at Wrestlemania. 506 00:22:09,703 --> 00:22:12,039 Lawrence Taylor, it's just me and you! 507 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:14,583 This was a match not for wrestling fans. 508 00:22:14,583 --> 00:22:16,335 The media hype around this match 509 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:18,254 has been absolutely huge. 510 00:22:18,254 --> 00:22:20,089 This was a match for the general public. 511 00:22:20,089 --> 00:22:24,093 And the idea was by being in the match all the exposure 512 00:22:24,093 --> 00:22:26,220 from the football press, and the mainstream press, 513 00:22:26,220 --> 00:22:28,722 would then make Bam Bam's name bigger, 514 00:22:28,722 --> 00:22:32,434 so then he could be the big star that 515 00:22:32,434 --> 00:22:33,894 they wanted him to be. 516 00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:35,896 That means I'm here, I did it. 517 00:22:35,896 --> 00:22:37,815 I am the 1%. 518 00:22:37,815 --> 00:22:42,987 Every little boy wants to be a WWE wrestler. 519 00:22:42,987 --> 00:22:46,115 Almost every little boy. And he was main event. 520 00:22:46,115 --> 00:22:47,908 It was a paycheque bigger than 521 00:22:47,908 --> 00:22:50,202 a lot of people make in one year. 522 00:22:50,202 --> 00:22:51,954 I see a lot of videos online. 523 00:22:51,954 --> 00:22:54,456 People all, "Oh, it's the worst Wrestlemania." 524 00:22:54,456 --> 00:22:55,833 You know what? 525 00:22:55,833 --> 00:22:58,502 There's not another person that could have carried 526 00:22:58,502 --> 00:23:00,963 Lawrence Taylor to do that show. 527 00:23:10,598 --> 00:23:12,224 You know, Vince trusted my father enough to be the 528 00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:14,435 person to pull that off. 529 00:23:14,435 --> 00:23:17,813 Bam Bam soon learns that being the company's go-to 530 00:23:17,813 --> 00:23:20,399 big man comes with certain sacrifices. 531 00:23:31,910 --> 00:23:34,371 It definitely took a toll on his body. 532 00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:37,416 I mean every time he sits in a chair and stands up, 533 00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:39,752 he just squatted 400 pounds. 534 00:23:39,752 --> 00:23:41,754 A lot of wear and tear on your knees. 535 00:23:41,754 --> 00:23:45,507 Your back, your neck, your shoulders. 536 00:23:45,507 --> 00:23:48,344 I mean the thing that made him so great was, 537 00:23:48,344 --> 00:23:50,095 you know, an agile big guy. 538 00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:52,348 The problem with the agile big guys is that by doing 539 00:23:52,348 --> 00:23:55,434 that stuff, a smaller guy can take that stuff longer, 540 00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:58,103 and the big guy it starts wearing down on you, a lot. 541 00:23:58,103 --> 00:24:00,773 He definitely had some knee surgeries and 542 00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:03,567 an elbow surgery or sholder surgery. 543 00:24:03,567 --> 00:24:05,569 You know his body was starting to take 544 00:24:05,569 --> 00:24:07,947 a little bit of a lickin'. 545 00:24:07,947 --> 00:24:09,323 That's one thing I didn't do. 546 00:24:09,323 --> 00:24:11,450 I didn't worry and I didn't stress out. 547 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:14,370 It was his job and he was an entertainer and 548 00:24:14,370 --> 00:24:18,040 he was an athlete, and I was too young to think about 549 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,251 the lifelong lasting effects of wrestling and 550 00:24:21,251 --> 00:24:23,796 what it would have on his body and his mind. 551 00:24:23,796 --> 00:24:26,674 But I do know that he knew if he was out 552 00:24:26,674 --> 00:24:28,801 and he was injured too long, somebody was going to 553 00:24:28,801 --> 00:24:31,720 step up and replace him. So, that was a no-no. 554 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,390 I'm not letting the opportunity walk by me. 555 00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:36,517 That heavyweight championship is gonna be mine! 556 00:24:40,270 --> 00:24:42,189 [Sighing] Probably pain pills like everybody else. 557 00:24:42,189 --> 00:24:44,274 But I do remember, you know, that was so commonplace 558 00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:45,734 among wrestlers then. 559 00:24:45,734 --> 00:24:48,195 It was such a part of the scene that 560 00:24:48,195 --> 00:24:49,822 it wasn't like, a big deal. 561 00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:52,116 And it was like, "Hey D, you got any Vikes?" 562 00:24:52,116 --> 00:24:53,617 So you just gave em' to your boy. 563 00:24:53,617 --> 00:24:56,120 You know, because he needed em' right there. 564 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,997 When you see this symbol you can be assured of 565 00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:02,710 drug free entertainment you can be proud of. 566 00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:05,546 Vince tested for marijuana and performance 567 00:25:05,546 --> 00:25:08,549 enhancing drugs, but you've got a prescription, 568 00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:09,800 you're good. 569 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,885 Through that 80s and then into the 90s, 570 00:25:11,885 --> 00:25:13,095 there were two things that coincided. 571 00:25:13,095 --> 00:25:14,638 Running, if this is the wrestling industry, 572 00:25:14,638 --> 00:25:17,266 running right next to that is the pharmaceutical industry. 573 00:25:17,266 --> 00:25:19,059 And the pharmaceutical industry is now coming up 574 00:25:19,059 --> 00:25:22,855 with better, more accessible opiates, OxyContin, 575 00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:24,898 which I did have a problem with. 576 00:25:24,898 --> 00:25:27,526 I've seen it, uh, so much in my career, 577 00:25:27,526 --> 00:25:30,904 so many of my peers during that time just left us 578 00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:32,990 way too early because of addiction, 579 00:25:32,990 --> 00:25:34,825 and especially pain pills. 580 00:25:34,825 --> 00:25:38,162 He um, was diabetic and he had an endocrinologist. 581 00:25:38,162 --> 00:25:42,416 Not a pain management doctor, and he would call, 582 00:25:42,416 --> 00:25:46,211 and, "I need Percs, I need Vikes, I need Oxys, 583 00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:48,046 I need something to keep me going." 584 00:25:48,046 --> 00:25:51,008 If you were at the pool party and ol' Doc came by, 585 00:25:51,008 --> 00:25:53,427 it was well, "I happen to have a refillable script of 586 00:25:53,427 --> 00:25:57,806 OxyContins in return for autographs." Or, you know, 587 00:25:57,806 --> 00:25:59,892 tickets to local shows here and there. 588 00:25:59,892 --> 00:26:02,603 It's a pretty powerful thing to have over someone. 589 00:26:02,603 --> 00:26:06,190 They might as well have just put heroine in a bottle and 590 00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:09,485 called it OxyContin. I can guarantee you before that 591 00:26:09,485 --> 00:26:12,613 prescription was done, he was probably addicted. 592 00:26:12,613 --> 00:26:14,448 ♪ 593 00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:24,708 In 1995 after a three-year run with the WWF, 594 00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:27,503 Bam Bam Bigelow leaves the company to sign with the 595 00:26:27,503 --> 00:26:31,381 notorious hardcore wrestling promotion ECW, 596 00:26:31,381 --> 00:26:34,551 run by his old friend, Paul Heyman. 597 00:26:34,551 --> 00:26:37,846 I mean, one reason he went to ECW was because 598 00:26:37,846 --> 00:26:39,389 he liked how it was local. 599 00:26:39,389 --> 00:26:41,016 Obviously, if he was in Asbury the whole family 600 00:26:41,016 --> 00:26:43,060 would get together, we'd all go. 601 00:26:43,060 --> 00:26:44,978 He knew he had a commodity. 602 00:26:44,978 --> 00:26:46,772 You know, he didn't take his character off. 603 00:26:46,772 --> 00:26:49,441 It was tattooed on his head, so, wherever he went, 604 00:26:49,441 --> 00:26:51,068 Bam Bam Bigelow was going. 605 00:26:51,068 --> 00:26:54,863 There is only one Bam Bam Bigelow! 606 00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:58,867 I think it was a little too hardcore for me, 607 00:26:58,867 --> 00:27:01,370 being so young. 608 00:27:01,370 --> 00:27:03,330 ♪ 609 00:27:03,330 --> 00:27:05,123 Our fans were riding with us. 610 00:27:05,123 --> 00:27:06,542 That was the whole gimmick. 611 00:27:06,542 --> 00:27:08,043 We were renegades, well dammit, 612 00:27:08,043 --> 00:27:10,754 we, the fans, we're renegades too. 613 00:27:10,754 --> 00:27:15,509 From fit to finish those shows were chaos. 614 00:27:15,509 --> 00:27:18,095 I remember this crowd just like a mosh pit. 615 00:27:18,095 --> 00:27:21,515 And this dude who is drunk as a skunk, 616 00:27:21,515 --> 00:27:24,184 comes barrelling and just absolutely face punches me, 617 00:27:24,184 --> 00:27:26,228 and chucks me right into the ground. 618 00:27:26,228 --> 00:27:27,771 You know, like 10, 11 years old. 619 00:27:27,771 --> 00:27:29,565 Like I've never been hit by a grown man, 620 00:27:29,565 --> 00:27:32,693 and it's that type of, like, where you're like- [Gasping] 621 00:27:32,693 --> 00:27:33,986 You can't catch your breath. 622 00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:35,571 So I remember going backstage, 623 00:27:35,571 --> 00:27:38,532 and I don't even think I told my father anything, 624 00:27:38,532 --> 00:27:40,075 he just like saw it. And he's like, 625 00:27:40,075 --> 00:27:41,952 "What happened?" And I'm like, 626 00:27:41,952 --> 00:27:44,454 "I don't know, this guy punched me," 627 00:27:44,454 --> 00:27:46,999 like went through the crowd, he's like, "Find him." 628 00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:49,668 The gentleman who did that was escorted to the back 629 00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:51,712 for a conversation. 630 00:27:51,712 --> 00:27:54,673 I witnessed this quasi conversation, 631 00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:56,049 I'll never forget it. 632 00:27:56,049 --> 00:27:58,343 And all you hear is, "So, you wanna hit kids?" 633 00:27:58,343 --> 00:27:59,595 And you know that like, 634 00:27:59,595 --> 00:28:02,639 this dude is getting the life smacked out of him. 635 00:28:02,639 --> 00:28:05,809 I don't know how else to put it, it was very bad. 636 00:28:05,809 --> 00:28:09,021 [Laughing] I'm sure everybody's OK now. 637 00:28:09,021 --> 00:28:13,066 But the fans in turn are fuelled by ECW's over the top 638 00:28:13,066 --> 00:28:16,695 ultra-violent brand of extreme wrestling. 639 00:28:16,695 --> 00:28:20,574 In ECW, we were a bunch of wrestlers 640 00:28:20,574 --> 00:28:23,035 that most of the bigger promotions, 641 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:24,620 they didn't want us, kinda. 642 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:27,122 And we were like the land of misfit toys. 643 00:28:27,122 --> 00:28:29,999 And it incorporated a lot of new stuff into pro wrestling 644 00:28:29,999 --> 00:28:32,252 in a revolutionary way. 645 00:28:32,252 --> 00:28:34,588 I mean, you had to be tough to be in our company, 646 00:28:34,588 --> 00:28:37,174 and Bigelow was a very tough guy, a legitimate guy. 647 00:28:37,174 --> 00:28:39,593 And he really started to come into his own, 648 00:28:39,593 --> 00:28:41,428 the months that we were doing. 649 00:28:41,428 --> 00:28:43,597 The stuff that these guys were doing, 650 00:28:43,597 --> 00:28:47,142 jumping off the rafters, through tables, 651 00:28:47,142 --> 00:28:49,144 getting thrown into the stands- 652 00:28:49,144 --> 00:28:51,897 It's just as hardcore as hardcore can get. 653 00:28:51,897 --> 00:28:53,440 Belly suplex! 654 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,233 We weren't just trying to hurt each other, 655 00:28:55,233 --> 00:28:56,526 we were professionals. 656 00:28:56,526 --> 00:28:58,654 What happens in that ring is built on trust. 657 00:28:58,654 --> 00:29:02,032 So, the infamous Taz and Bigelow 658 00:29:02,032 --> 00:29:05,202 go through the ring in Asbury Park. 659 00:29:05,202 --> 00:29:09,164 So I get this phone call from Paul Heyman, and um, he says, 660 00:29:09,164 --> 00:29:12,084 "You and Bigelow, he's gonna beat you for the belt, 661 00:29:12,084 --> 00:29:14,169 and he's gonna put you through the ring to do it." 662 00:29:14,169 --> 00:29:15,712 He goes, "What do you think?" 663 00:29:15,712 --> 00:29:18,131 And the first thing I thought is, "I'm gonna die." 664 00:29:18,131 --> 00:29:20,175 So, the way a ring is constructed, 665 00:29:20,175 --> 00:29:22,928 it's a steel frame, and then there's these 666 00:29:22,928 --> 00:29:24,805 thick wood boards, 667 00:29:24,805 --> 00:29:27,391 and then there's kind of like a, uh, cushion. 668 00:29:27,391 --> 00:29:28,976 It's not as big as a mat. 669 00:29:28,976 --> 00:29:30,394 And then a canvas. 670 00:29:30,394 --> 00:29:32,771 So these wood boards were cut first. 671 00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:35,315 So then the boards were just moved out of the way, 672 00:29:35,315 --> 00:29:36,942 then opened a trap door. 673 00:29:36,942 --> 00:29:38,819 And Bam Bam was concerned. 674 00:29:38,819 --> 00:29:40,278 "What about Taz's head?" 675 00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:42,280 Like, "His heads gonna hit the frame of this thing. 676 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,199 How are we going to clear this hole?" 677 00:29:44,199 --> 00:29:46,368 I almost feel dirty explaining this on here. 678 00:29:46,368 --> 00:29:47,703 [Off-screen] [Laughing] 679 00:29:47,703 --> 00:29:50,163 I'm so old school, it's ----ing like, unbelievable. 680 00:29:50,163 --> 00:29:53,583 So, basically, we fought, fought, fought. 681 00:29:53,583 --> 00:29:56,169 We were outside the ring for quite some time fighting 682 00:29:56,169 --> 00:30:00,882 until we get the signal that this door is open. 683 00:30:00,882 --> 00:30:03,427 It's got both champion and challenger back in the ring. 684 00:30:03,427 --> 00:30:05,470 So, if you watch closely... 685 00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:07,597 He's got it! He's got it locked up! 686 00:30:07,597 --> 00:30:10,434 When I have the choke on him- and I'm really pulling it 687 00:30:10,434 --> 00:30:11,977 back this curtain all the way here, right? 688 00:30:11,977 --> 00:30:14,813 So, Bam Bam, he's tapping first. 689 00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:16,815 Then he puts his hand on the top rope. 690 00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:20,318 Under his hand is a little piece of white tape. 691 00:30:20,318 --> 00:30:25,157 That white tape was the measurement to clear my head. 692 00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:29,411 [Cheering] 693 00:30:29,411 --> 00:30:31,580 We hit that crash mat hard as hell. 694 00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:34,291 [Chanting] ECW! ECW! 695 00:30:34,291 --> 00:30:37,377 The ring engulfs us. And we heard the people. 696 00:30:37,377 --> 00:30:39,379 [Cheering] 697 00:30:39,379 --> 00:30:41,256 My eyes lit up, I was so happy. 698 00:30:41,256 --> 00:30:43,842 And the first thing he says to me, 699 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:47,220 "Are you okay?" That's Bam Bam Bigelow. 700 00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:49,598 And he goes, "We ----in' did it!" 701 00:30:49,598 --> 00:30:51,058 And we were laughing, 702 00:30:51,058 --> 00:30:53,185 because the place was rumbling. 703 00:30:53,185 --> 00:30:55,187 He waited for the people to come down a teeny bit, 704 00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:57,773 and then once they saw him come out first, 705 00:30:57,773 --> 00:30:59,566 we knew the pop would be loud but I don't know 706 00:30:59,566 --> 00:31:00,650 if we knew it was gonna be that loud. 707 00:31:00,650 --> 00:31:02,152 I mean, i was just... 708 00:31:02,152 --> 00:31:03,779 I'll never forget it as long as I live. 709 00:31:03,779 --> 00:31:05,405 And we've got a new... 710 00:31:05,405 --> 00:31:06,448 I get goosebumps. 711 00:31:06,448 --> 00:31:08,367 ...World Television Champion! 712 00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:09,993 There are so many things that could have gone wrong. 713 00:31:09,993 --> 00:31:12,079 You could break your back, you could break your neck. 714 00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:15,207 Uh, but Scotty never ever said no to anything. 715 00:31:15,207 --> 00:31:17,918 It's a small miracle that Bigelow is moving. 716 00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:27,594 You would see him come out, he'd have, you know, 717 00:31:27,594 --> 00:31:29,846 giant gashes on his head, and he would just put some 718 00:31:29,846 --> 00:31:31,389 superglue on it, close it up, 719 00:31:31,389 --> 00:31:32,974 and then we would go have a cheesesteak. 720 00:31:32,974 --> 00:31:34,392 I can't tell you how many times he's been 721 00:31:34,392 --> 00:31:35,727 sewed up in our living room. 722 00:31:35,727 --> 00:31:37,562 Doctor just would come over and just sew him up 723 00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:39,398 in the middle of the night while he was half asleep. 724 00:31:39,398 --> 00:31:43,401 So the injuries were the beginning of the end. 725 00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:47,405 He had stenosis in the entirety of his spine. 726 00:31:47,405 --> 00:31:49,241 He had crushed discs. 727 00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:52,661 He had sections fused of his back at that time. 728 00:31:52,661 --> 00:31:54,621 You could run your finger down his spine and 729 00:31:54,621 --> 00:31:57,249 you could feel, almost like brail. 730 00:31:57,249 --> 00:32:00,335 Pills just allowed him to move. 731 00:32:00,335 --> 00:32:03,380 If you didn't go out and you didn't put on a show, 732 00:32:03,380 --> 00:32:05,132 you weren't getting paid. 733 00:32:05,132 --> 00:32:09,010 So, I understand the aspect of having to take something 734 00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:12,430 to basically push you through that. 735 00:32:12,430 --> 00:32:15,642 I did see Bigelow struggling a little bit physically, 736 00:32:15,642 --> 00:32:17,435 but he, he hid it well. 737 00:32:17,435 --> 00:32:19,646 He wouldn't tell you, if you had to go over a match, 738 00:32:19,646 --> 00:32:21,815 "Hey dude, I'm hurting here, my shoulder hurts, 739 00:32:21,815 --> 00:32:23,525 my neck hurts, my back hurts." 740 00:32:23,525 --> 00:32:26,236 He was just, "Let's go." You know, "Let's do it." 741 00:32:26,236 --> 00:32:29,489 You know, whatever it was. 742 00:32:29,489 --> 00:32:32,909 The pain pills Bam Bam Bigelow consumes allow him 743 00:32:32,909 --> 00:32:35,579 to continue performing at the highest level, 744 00:32:35,579 --> 00:32:38,874 but they also take a toll on his life away from the ring. 745 00:32:38,874 --> 00:32:41,626 He was never, never, never aggressive. 746 00:32:41,626 --> 00:32:43,545 And he was always very respectful. 747 00:32:43,545 --> 00:32:45,338 And he became angry. 748 00:32:45,338 --> 00:32:47,299 He would, at times, be very coherent, 749 00:32:47,299 --> 00:32:49,426 and at times be very incoherent. 750 00:32:49,426 --> 00:32:51,470 And he would be like, "You are just crazy and 751 00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:52,846 you're making things up. 752 00:32:52,846 --> 00:32:55,307 I'm under a doctor's care, and this is, you know, 753 00:32:55,307 --> 00:32:56,766 what I have to do to be in the business." 754 00:32:56,766 --> 00:32:58,393 It was a doctor. 755 00:32:58,393 --> 00:33:01,021 An MD, who get paid a lot of money, 756 00:33:01,021 --> 00:33:03,148 to treat him for one disease, 757 00:33:03,148 --> 00:33:06,484 and gave him another, a whole other one. 758 00:33:06,484 --> 00:33:09,070 The pill bottles from that doctor, 759 00:33:09,070 --> 00:33:11,323 I've never seen pill bottles of that size 760 00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:12,824 in my life before. 761 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:14,910 100 pills? 300 pills? 762 00:33:14,910 --> 00:33:16,536 His doctor was a fan, 763 00:33:16,536 --> 00:33:19,414 and he would have done anything that Scott wanted, 764 00:33:19,414 --> 00:33:22,417 regardless of his license, and he did. 765 00:33:22,417 --> 00:33:25,754 Scott was in denial and so was the doctor, 766 00:33:25,754 --> 00:33:27,130 because I would call him and say, 767 00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:28,840 "Stop writing these prescriptions. 768 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,593 You're destroying our lives. You're ruining our family." 769 00:33:31,593 --> 00:33:33,553 And that doctor's response, 770 00:33:33,553 --> 00:33:35,138 he would call my father and say that, 771 00:33:35,138 --> 00:33:37,766 "The warden's calling me telling me not to come over." 772 00:33:37,766 --> 00:33:41,353 Undermining my mother to my father 773 00:33:41,353 --> 00:33:44,272 in an already weakened state. 774 00:33:44,272 --> 00:33:46,900 Nobody's paying attention to these doctors. 775 00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:48,902 You're a drug dealer. 776 00:33:48,902 --> 00:33:51,029 'Cause he was not a pain doctor. 777 00:33:51,029 --> 00:33:52,197 It's a tragedy. 778 00:33:52,197 --> 00:33:56,660 Scott sold his soul for OxyContins. 779 00:33:56,660 --> 00:33:58,411 And he would have stepped over us in the street 780 00:33:58,411 --> 00:34:00,080 to get them. 781 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,790 ♪ 782 00:34:05,794 --> 00:34:09,089 Bam Bam Bigelow's addiction continues to get worse, 783 00:34:09,089 --> 00:34:13,051 fuelled by an endless supply of OxyContin from his doctor. 784 00:34:13,051 --> 00:34:16,263 OxyContin is one of America's new wonder drugs. 785 00:34:16,263 --> 00:34:18,640 Since the drug came on the market the number of annual 786 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,810 prescriptions has risen to nearly 6 million. 787 00:34:21,810 --> 00:34:23,937 Contributing to the problem are pill mills, 788 00:34:23,937 --> 00:34:25,689 where doctors write prescriptions for 789 00:34:25,689 --> 00:34:27,274 non-medical reasons. 790 00:34:27,274 --> 00:34:30,068 He wasn't going to buy drugs off the street. 791 00:34:30,068 --> 00:34:33,113 He was home taking OxyContins. 792 00:34:33,113 --> 00:34:36,741 And then I got pregnant with Ricci, and then the promises, 793 00:34:36,741 --> 00:34:38,493 you know, "This is gonna be different. 794 00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:41,037 We're gonna get through this." 795 00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:42,998 I think he tried to pull himself together because 796 00:34:42,998 --> 00:34:44,666 he said he always wanted a daughter his whole life. 797 00:34:44,666 --> 00:34:48,169 It was like beyond anything to have this daughter, 798 00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:50,213 and when she was little he used to put her to bed 799 00:34:50,213 --> 00:34:52,549 every single night, and he would get a pillow and 800 00:34:52,549 --> 00:34:54,050 he would lay on the floor next to her, 801 00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:55,719 and he would sing her songs, and hold her hands. 802 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,680 And he was in her room on her floor every night. 803 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,140 Wednesdays. 804 00:35:00,140 --> 00:35:03,643 Every Wednesday my dad would pick me up from preschool. 805 00:35:03,643 --> 00:35:05,061 Big red truck. 806 00:35:05,061 --> 00:35:06,771 Eat all the Doritos you could imagine. 807 00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:08,064 Paint pictures. 808 00:35:08,064 --> 00:35:11,484 Just, normal father- daughter relationship. 809 00:35:11,484 --> 00:35:14,779 When he was around he was focused on being with us and 810 00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:16,448 spending time with us. 811 00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:18,950 How you doing, boy? [Laughing] 812 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:20,410 His body was a little hindered, 813 00:35:20,410 --> 00:35:22,370 and he was starting to feel the pain. 814 00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:25,790 But, you know that didn't stop us from going to 815 00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:27,709 every opening day for fishing. 816 00:35:27,709 --> 00:35:29,419 Every opening day for hunting. 817 00:35:29,419 --> 00:35:30,837 He got to be a dad. 818 00:35:30,837 --> 00:35:33,631 So with Dad being on the road 300 plus days a year. 819 00:35:33,631 --> 00:35:36,092 Those are the fondest memories. 820 00:35:36,092 --> 00:35:38,053 There's no pension in professional wrestling. 821 00:35:38,053 --> 00:35:41,139 So, he needed to make as 822 00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:43,224 much money as he could with the 823 00:35:43,224 --> 00:35:46,061 body that he had, 'cause he knew it was deteriorating. 824 00:35:46,061 --> 00:35:48,104 He even says that he's the highest paid loser 825 00:35:48,104 --> 00:35:49,773 in the world, because he'll take a loss 826 00:35:49,773 --> 00:35:51,816 as long as that loss pays. 827 00:35:51,816 --> 00:35:55,945 I'm the guy who helped bring Bam Bam in to WCW. 828 00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,740 When he heard that I was wrestling, 829 00:35:58,740 --> 00:36:00,867 somehow he got my number, he's like, 830 00:36:00,867 --> 00:36:02,494 "Dude, you're doing it." 831 00:36:02,494 --> 00:36:06,039 Like, we grew up maybe 7 miles from each other. 832 00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:07,832 These two Jersey Shore boys. 833 00:36:07,832 --> 00:36:09,876 But now we're tag team champions. 834 00:36:09,876 --> 00:36:12,253 I never felt like he was under the influence 835 00:36:12,253 --> 00:36:14,172 in the ring but, you know, eventually, you know, 836 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:16,132 people start to go back to their old habits and 837 00:36:16,132 --> 00:36:18,093 that's why so many guys died. 838 00:36:18,093 --> 00:36:21,054 Over consumption of pills. 839 00:36:21,054 --> 00:36:24,057 Because when you're taking five at a time, 840 00:36:24,057 --> 00:36:26,226 'cause three stopped working. 841 00:36:26,226 --> 00:36:28,353 [Sighing] I'm not, you can't remember 842 00:36:28,353 --> 00:36:30,980 if you took them or not, so you take five more. 843 00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:32,690 You know, and before you know it- 844 00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:34,984 [Gagging]- you're that guy. 845 00:36:34,984 --> 00:36:36,653 He went on the road and 846 00:36:36,653 --> 00:36:39,989 he would not show up to shows or tapings. 847 00:36:39,989 --> 00:36:43,535 He was in Arizona, and, um, friends of ours were there, 848 00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:46,371 and he didn't make it to the show and they called home. 849 00:36:46,371 --> 00:36:47,580 And I was like, "What do you mean? 850 00:36:47,580 --> 00:36:49,916 He's there." It got to the point where 851 00:36:49,916 --> 00:36:53,837 he was a liability, and that's what they said. 852 00:36:53,837 --> 00:36:56,131 And they paid him the rest of his contract to stay home 853 00:36:56,131 --> 00:36:59,050 because he could not function. 854 00:36:59,050 --> 00:37:01,177 I saw a man broken. 855 00:37:01,177 --> 00:37:04,639 He's away from his family, and he's not in the best 856 00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:07,559 physical shape because he's in constant pain. 857 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,936 You know, having to take a pill just to get up. 858 00:37:09,936 --> 00:37:12,230 And not just a pill, multiple pills. 859 00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:13,982 But the trade off of that is 860 00:37:13,982 --> 00:37:15,692 it completely dulls your senses, 861 00:37:15,692 --> 00:37:19,070 it completely just destroys your sense of person. 862 00:37:21,281 --> 00:37:24,492 15, 20 OxyContins, easily. 863 00:37:24,492 --> 00:37:25,827 Yeah. 864 00:37:25,827 --> 00:37:26,995 It was dangerous. 865 00:37:26,995 --> 00:37:28,913 And a situation happened with the youngest 866 00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:31,458 where it became very dangerous. 867 00:37:31,458 --> 00:37:33,710 I had wrote a paper about it 868 00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:35,587 when I was in 8th grade. 869 00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:38,214 And I went back and read it last night understanding that 870 00:37:38,214 --> 00:37:39,966 what was happening was, I'm writing about 871 00:37:39,966 --> 00:37:43,052 my father nodding out, driving. 872 00:37:43,052 --> 00:37:44,512 And when I wrote that in 8th grade 873 00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:47,182 I had no idea that's what was going on. 874 00:37:47,182 --> 00:37:49,684 And I remember the officers were asking me 875 00:37:49,684 --> 00:37:51,227 all these questions, like, I mean, 876 00:37:51,227 --> 00:37:52,187 for a three-year-old, they're asking me 877 00:37:52,187 --> 00:37:53,813 my address, my phone number, 878 00:37:53,813 --> 00:37:55,773 my mom's phone number, like all this information, 879 00:37:55,773 --> 00:37:59,235 and I'm just like, "I don't know. Where's my dad?" 880 00:37:59,235 --> 00:38:01,488 So when I went back last night and read it, 881 00:38:01,488 --> 00:38:03,364 really knowing what was going on, 882 00:38:03,364 --> 00:38:07,952 what was in his system, it just hits ten times harder. 883 00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:10,580 As Bam Bam Bigelow's addiction sends him 884 00:38:10,580 --> 00:38:13,333 crashing to rock bottom, he's charged with 885 00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:15,793 endangering the welfare of his daughter. 886 00:38:15,793 --> 00:38:17,295 He was given an ultimatum. I'm like, 887 00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:18,838 "You've either gotta go get help, 888 00:38:18,838 --> 00:38:20,465 or you have to go." 889 00:38:20,465 --> 00:38:23,343 He wouldn't get help, and he went. 890 00:38:23,343 --> 00:38:26,137 He didn't see that he had a problem the way that he did, 891 00:38:26,137 --> 00:38:28,473 and the way that addicts do. 892 00:38:28,473 --> 00:38:30,391 And you know, Dad's not gonna be home anymore, 893 00:38:30,391 --> 00:38:32,310 they're getting a divorce. 894 00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:35,271 That's when he picked up and basically went to Florida. 895 00:38:35,271 --> 00:38:37,482 He was married to a drug. 896 00:38:37,482 --> 00:38:39,234 So to watch a man who would choose that 897 00:38:39,234 --> 00:38:41,528 over his children, when I knew that that was 898 00:38:41,528 --> 00:38:42,612 the most important thing, 899 00:38:42,612 --> 00:38:44,113 was just the worst thing ever. 900 00:38:44,113 --> 00:38:46,950 And I got to talk to him on the phone, but it would be, 901 00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:49,577 like, spans of where it would be really quiet, 902 00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:52,121 because I could hear him crying. 903 00:38:52,121 --> 00:38:57,627 He was struggling to form the words, "Hi." 904 00:38:57,627 --> 00:39:01,130 I went down to Tampa, spring break my senior year. 905 00:39:01,130 --> 00:39:03,550 I wanted to go down there to see my friends but I really 906 00:39:03,550 --> 00:39:05,343 just wanted to go down there to find my dad. 907 00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:09,222 And um- [Sighing]- 908 00:39:09,222 --> 00:39:11,182 His girlfriend answered the phone, 909 00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:14,394 said he wasn't available at that point in time, 910 00:39:14,394 --> 00:39:17,564 and then I got a phone call when I landed back in 911 00:39:17,564 --> 00:39:20,567 New Jersey from my father, apologizing. 912 00:39:20,567 --> 00:39:23,528 And uh, you know I kind of aired him out a little bit, 913 00:39:23,528 --> 00:39:27,240 told him how I felt, um... 914 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,075 and then he died. 915 00:39:29,075 --> 00:39:33,079 Three weeks later. 916 00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:35,373 I was in school, teaching, 917 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:37,709 and a phone call got patched to my classroom, 918 00:39:37,709 --> 00:39:39,794 and it was his brother, Todd. 919 00:39:39,794 --> 00:39:42,922 And Todd said, "He's gone." 920 00:39:42,922 --> 00:39:44,215 I was like, "What do you mean?" 921 00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:45,550 He's like, "He's gone." 922 00:39:45,550 --> 00:39:47,051 And he was crying hysterically, 923 00:39:47,051 --> 00:39:49,637 and I just hung up the phone and ran out of the building, 924 00:39:49,637 --> 00:39:52,056 and Shane was in college. 925 00:39:52,056 --> 00:39:55,143 Yeah, I got that call. I'll never forget it. 926 00:39:55,143 --> 00:39:57,478 I'm walking back through the quad, 927 00:39:57,478 --> 00:40:00,106 there's kids going to class, and I got a phone call 928 00:40:00,106 --> 00:40:02,692 from my father's childhood friend. 929 00:40:02,692 --> 00:40:05,528 "Your father died last night." 930 00:40:05,528 --> 00:40:07,530 And it just like... everybody around you is 931 00:40:07,530 --> 00:40:11,200 moving fast and you're just still. 932 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,620 I just remember being numb. 933 00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:16,247 [Exhaling sharply] It rocked me. 934 00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:21,711 What I heard, um, at that time, he was, uh, 935 00:40:21,711 --> 00:40:24,380 you know, going through a tough time. 936 00:40:24,380 --> 00:40:26,174 I thought of his family instantly, 937 00:40:26,174 --> 00:40:28,051 because I know how much he loved his family and 938 00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:30,803 his wife, you know, I just felt for them. 939 00:40:30,803 --> 00:40:32,930 He died of an overdose. 940 00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:35,058 Accidental overdose, but... 941 00:40:35,058 --> 00:40:36,476 you know the word accidental and overdose 942 00:40:36,476 --> 00:40:38,019 should just not be in the same sentence. 943 00:40:38,019 --> 00:40:41,147 How do you accidentally, "Oops!" Took one too many? 944 00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:43,107 He took one too many for a long time. 945 00:40:43,107 --> 00:40:45,401 ♪ 946 00:40:49,697 --> 00:40:52,909 On January 19th, 2007, 947 00:40:52,909 --> 00:40:55,244 at just 45 years of age, 948 00:40:55,244 --> 00:40:58,247 Bam Bam Bigelow dies by what authorities call an 949 00:40:58,247 --> 00:41:01,042 accidental overdose, from a cocktail of 950 00:41:01,042 --> 00:41:03,044 illicit and prescription drugs. 951 00:41:03,044 --> 00:41:04,712 I didn't grieve. 952 00:41:04,712 --> 00:41:07,882 There was none for me, because I was scrambling. 953 00:41:07,882 --> 00:41:09,717 I had kids, they couldn't see me break down. 954 00:41:09,717 --> 00:41:12,220 They couldn't see me weak. 955 00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:14,138 And that's all I became, was a provider. 956 00:41:14,138 --> 00:41:17,392 Like, I didn't have time to coddle and nurture. 957 00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:19,644 That's the hardest part on me now. 958 00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:23,356 Towards the end it was very difficult with my mother. 959 00:41:23,356 --> 00:41:26,275 Just because, that was my dad, that was my hero. 960 00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:28,986 My mom had to make a really tough decision. 961 00:41:28,986 --> 00:41:30,947 You know, for a while I never understood 962 00:41:30,947 --> 00:41:33,908 why we couldn't just go see dad. 963 00:41:33,908 --> 00:41:36,160 And when you don't understand 964 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,162 you just think it's selfish. 965 00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:40,039 But then when you do, 966 00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:43,418 you become appreciative that you weren't 967 00:41:43,418 --> 00:41:45,795 exposed to something that would've been 968 00:41:45,795 --> 00:41:48,005 just so heart breaking. 969 00:41:48,005 --> 00:41:51,175 As a father I think it just digs into you that 970 00:41:51,175 --> 00:41:55,304 when you think, if there was no compunction for 971 00:41:55,304 --> 00:41:57,223 Bammer to reach out for some kind of help, 972 00:41:57,223 --> 00:42:00,268 that he must have thought that he had it under control. 973 00:42:00,268 --> 00:42:02,645 He must have figured this is not really a problem. 974 00:42:02,645 --> 00:42:04,814 Because of how much he talked about his kids. 975 00:42:04,814 --> 00:42:07,316 It's been just- [Sighing]- 976 00:42:07,316 --> 00:42:09,610 honouring the legacy of Bam Bam. 977 00:42:09,610 --> 00:42:11,070 Now collision course! 978 00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:14,115 I never really got to stop and acknowledge my own pain. 979 00:42:14,115 --> 00:42:18,077 You always think about if you had one last chance 980 00:42:18,077 --> 00:42:21,706 what you would say. I think there's more ask. 981 00:42:21,706 --> 00:42:23,666 Just why? 982 00:42:23,666 --> 00:42:26,502 His kids lost their dad at a young age. 983 00:42:26,502 --> 00:42:29,380 It's sad, you know, because Bigelow like so many of us 984 00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:31,716 wrestlers during that time, was on the road a lot. 985 00:42:31,716 --> 00:42:33,259 You know, you're not around. 986 00:42:33,259 --> 00:42:34,844 You're making a living for your family. 987 00:42:38,306 --> 00:42:39,932 You mother----er. 988 00:42:39,932 --> 00:42:42,477 But, through years of therapy, 989 00:42:42,477 --> 00:42:44,395 I know you had no control. 990 00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:46,397 It's not your fault. I don't blame you. 991 00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:48,649 ♪ 992 00:42:48,649 --> 00:42:50,651 You know nobody wakes up in the morning and says, 993 00:42:50,651 --> 00:42:52,570 "I'm gonna be a drug addict today." 994 00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:53,988 You wake up every morning and you're like, 995 00:42:53,988 --> 00:42:55,740 "Today is gonna be a change." 996 00:42:55,740 --> 00:42:57,992 But I would call him a mother----er first. 997 00:42:57,992 --> 00:43:00,995 Just 'cause he would expect that. 998 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:04,123 I can't fault him for what happened. 999 00:43:04,123 --> 00:43:05,917 You had to keep going. 1000 00:43:05,917 --> 00:43:07,543 That's how you put the bread on the table. 1001 00:43:07,543 --> 00:43:09,128 I signed all the rights over to the kids, 1002 00:43:09,128 --> 00:43:10,838 so they got all the royalty cheques. 1003 00:43:10,838 --> 00:43:13,883 So he, in his death, still supported them. 1004 00:43:16,928 --> 00:43:19,680 Nobody. There's nobody. 1005 00:43:30,775 --> 00:43:33,528 When I think of pro wrestling I think of power, 1006 00:43:33,528 --> 00:43:36,322 I think of size, I think of my father. 1007 00:43:36,322 --> 00:43:39,575 World heavyweight champion, 1008 00:43:39,575 --> 00:43:44,080 The Beast from the East, Bam Bam Bigelow! 1009 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,874 He was a great person, and how he lived and 1010 00:43:46,874 --> 00:43:48,918 all the wonderful things that he did for people, 1011 00:43:48,918 --> 00:43:50,920 and the great father that he was, 1012 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,505 should be what is remembered. 1013 00:43:52,505 --> 00:43:55,883 Not how he died, because that's a terrible story, 1014 00:43:55,883 --> 00:43:57,802 but he left such a legacy. 1015 00:43:57,802 --> 00:43:59,929 Bam Bam! Look at that maneuver! 1016 00:43:59,929 --> 00:44:01,222 [Laughing] 1017 00:44:01,222 --> 00:44:02,974 He was that 1%. 75964

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