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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,560 (FOOTSTEPS APPROACH) 2 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:21,040 SHANE QUIRK: The thing is that people stayed. 3 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,440 You're not getting everyone out. 4 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:28,880 I mean, I know some of the people 5 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,880 that shouldn't have stayed, civilians, 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,760 that you should just get out when it's that big. 7 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,520 Your heart drops. 8 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,000 You find out people are in somewhere 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,200 and you know it's dangerous. 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,480 But, yeah, you knew it was going to turn bad 11 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:50,840 because not everyone got out. 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,760 (WIND HOWLS) 13 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,360 (THUNDER CRASHES) 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,760 (FIRE CRACKLES) 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,440 Emergency warnings are in place on Kangaroo Island, 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,720 with concerns about two towns under threat. 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,440 The situation is still... 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,400 The bottom of flames burning across the trees and you cannot breathe. 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,240 You're just going... (GASPS) 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,720 REPORTER: In a place called Ravine 21 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,840 there was an emergency warning for that fire earlier on today. 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,800 (FIRE ROARS) 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,600 The entire island is now under bushfire threat. 24 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,240 Pretty much the worst day of your life, really. 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,200 Looking at a tsunami of fire coming straight at you. 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,840 The moment when I felt really scared 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,360 was when we were trapped down at the beach. 28 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:42,440 And that's when we stayed the night here 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,920 with tea towels as blankets and all that. 30 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,800 Yeah, when she rolled through, yeah, she's on for young and old. 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,400 It's a pretty traumatic experience. 32 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,920 Never really want to go through it again. 33 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,200 (WIND WHOOSHES) 34 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,520 (BIRDS TWITTER) 35 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,120 So, this is the house and four-wheeler that I got back here 36 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,680 before I went looking for somewhere to shelter. 37 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,720 That didn't fare so well. 38 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,920 But it wouldn't sell for much at the moment, would it? 39 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,560 Well, the worst moment, I suppose, was trying to locate Jo, 40 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,360 know where she'd gone. 41 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,440 The kids had rung me, so, they knew I couldn't find her. 42 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,920 Yeah, I guess that was as bad... 43 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,520 I was pretty nervous that I was never going to get back to the house, 44 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,200 and if I'd been another 10 minutes later, 45 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,520 that would have been a real issue. 46 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,680 But I had no idea where Jo was, 47 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,080 and I was aiming to get back to try and do something with her. 48 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,920 So, we just physically didn't have any time to do anything. 49 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,480 I mean, I knew from a bit after 7:00 we were goners. 50 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,760 I reckon by 8:30 we were in real trouble. The fire was on the farm. 51 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,160 So, you know, you just can't prepare with that amount of time. 52 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,800 It was horrendous. 53 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,800 Never seen anything like it in my life. 54 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,400 And I've spent my life as a CFS member, 55 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,560 deputy group officer for many years 56 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,440 and I fought many fires. 57 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,360 I don't think I've ever lost a house in any fire I was running, 58 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,400 and yet this one came through and took out 60-odd houses or whatever. 59 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,200 It's just right off the scale. Mm. 60 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,200 Yeah, of course I can remember what it looked like. Yeah. 61 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:45,280 Yeah. 62 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:48,120 Yeah, well, Jo did a bit of that while I was out moving sheep, 63 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,640 so, we got out with the computer. 64 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,000 I think she actually got passports. 65 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,040 She forgot to get my wallet, so, I didn't have any licences left. 66 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,600 Yeah, she got some stuff out. 67 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,160 She was pretty sensible, actually. 68 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,400 Got a, um... 69 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,000 ..a blanket wet to cover herself in. 70 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,360 But she didn't have long either. 71 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,440 It came through here. I came in from the other side. 72 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,360 The rams, unfortunately, were here around the tennis court 73 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,280 and that's where I was trying to get back in time to get them out, 74 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:26,840 but just run out of time. 75 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:30,400 If I'd gone out with them, I probably wouldn't have got out myself, so... 76 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,600 Yep. 77 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,360 I had to leave them where they were. Not one of them survived. 78 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,600 They wouldn't have had a hope out there. 79 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Mm. 80 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,120 (COOS) 81 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,800 You're a good old fella. 82 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:53,800 Didn't know if he has to be put down, 83 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,720 but hopefully in another three or four days he'll be back to normal. 84 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,800 Eh? (PANTS) 85 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,480 You're a good old dog. 86 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,520 The thing that was pretty sobering, 87 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,120 I woke up the next morning after a couple of hours' sleep, 88 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,840 and I had a pair of dirty work clothes on, 89 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:12,320 and that was about all I owned. 90 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,800 You know, that is really quite a sobering thought. Um... 91 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,000 I'm living in other people's clothes most of the time. 92 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,040 It just seems staggering how much you haven't got 93 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,400 when you get in a situation like this. 94 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,560 Yeah, 3 January was a pretty interesting day, obviously. 95 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,000 It was our wedding anniversary, in fact. 96 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,400 51st. 97 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,600 The day began with patrolling hotspots 98 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,200 from the fire that had been affecting us for...since 20 December. 99 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,640 And, in fact, during that day, just after lunch, 100 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,160 we were nearly burnt out from the north 101 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,440 with a fire running up at creek. 102 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,960 We tried to back-burn. 103 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,640 Got home at 6 o'clock in the afternoon 104 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,560 thinking we'd been saved, 105 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,160 but the fire was raging down through Flinders Chase, heading south. 106 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,320 And I knew we would be impacted at some point, 107 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,120 but I thought two or three days. 108 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,640 So, that was up until about 7 o'clock. 109 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,920 I got a message from a friend 110 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,520 who was advising me then 111 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,720 that 10 minutes it would be on Rick Morris's place. 112 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,320 So, at that point we hit the panic buttons and filled up gutters. 113 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Then I headed off on a four-wheeler 114 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,920 to try and move sheep out of the path of the fire. 115 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:29,960 I reckon when I left I had about maybe 15, 20 metres of visibility, 116 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,120 and by the time I got back after moving one mile 117 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:33,840 I had about two to three. 118 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,520 I really struggled to find my way back to the house. 119 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:42,400 By the time I'd achieved that, there were spot fires starting around me. 120 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,200 I dumped the four-wheeler, 121 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,120 got a couple of dogs in the front. 122 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,880 One wouldn't jump in the front. He was on the back. 123 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,360 My wife was just leaving with a vehicle 124 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,080 to go to the local airstrip where they fight fires from 125 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,320 because I figured that was a safe spot, 126 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,560 and we headed off for that. 127 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,480 And it was a confusion getting there because we couldn't see the road. 128 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,360 We just kept running off one side or the other. 129 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,480 And the last I saw of Jo 130 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:08,600 was she'd panicked 131 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,960 and didn't want to drive through the roadside vegetation 132 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,120 and I saw her backing back. 133 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,880 By then things were getting pretty hot 134 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,480 and I had to park up and find the coolest spot I could. 135 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,200 And eventually the ute was well alight, 136 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,960 and I bailed out of that and went looking for Jo. 137 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,920 (WIND WHOOSHES) 138 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,640 BEN DAVIS: So, this was like... We had a guest room 139 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,200 down the bottom of the house here. 140 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,840 That's the... 141 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,440 ..was the en suite. 142 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Got the kids' bikes here. 143 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,840 Yeah, that's probably one of the hardest things 144 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,800 and I think for the kids it was as well. 145 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,160 They, uh... 146 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,240 They just got new bikes. 147 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,200 And, so, then to see them like that, yeah, that's pretty hard. 148 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,040 Um... Probably having a house is what you miss the most. 149 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,040 You know, being able to sit on... you know, sit on your couch at night 150 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:23,080 and, you know, watch the cricket, watch football, like, all the... 151 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,080 ..you know, just the little things that you don't even think about, 152 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,560 you know, walking into the kitchen 153 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:29,480 and grabbing something out of the fridge. 154 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,120 Both the kids' chairs. 155 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,640 That's all you can really see left of their stuff. 156 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,280 So, that was a Christmas present. 157 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,040 Daughter's Christmas present. 158 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,400 So, she'd barely used it. 159 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,760 They'd been, you know... Some of those things you don't even... 160 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,240 She didn't even get a chance to use her Christmas present, and it's gone. 161 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,120 (EXHALES HEAVILY) 162 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,320 We were in this room when the fire went through. 163 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,120 We can go to the bathroom if we get stuck in this. 164 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,680 No, you don't go into a room you can't get out of. 165 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:04,000 (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 166 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,400 You go to... 167 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,600 ..down the back. Stay away from the glass, mate. 168 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,560 We were in a full-glass room, basically, 169 00:10:09,560 --> 00:10:13,800 so, it's like being inside a tornado that was on fire. 170 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,800 Fuckin' hell! 171 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,960 Don't worry, it's just the screen. 172 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,840 (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) Yeah. 173 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,040 (FIRE WHOOSHES) 174 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,840 It's a tough bloody pump, I'll give it that. 175 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,520 Oh, wow. 176 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:38,840 (EXHALES HEAVILY) You alright? 177 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,000 Yeah, I'll be looking on that side... (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 178 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,080 What was that? Agh... Don't worry about it. 179 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,760 I can't see a fucking thing. 180 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,080 I think you'll need a new cubby house, Ben. 181 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,400 More than that, you're gonna need a whole mob of sheep. 182 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,360 Oh, fuck. Yeah. We're fucking... 183 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,720 (FIRE ROARS) 184 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,600 Shut the door behind you. 185 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:07,160 Yeah. Good plan. 186 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,400 Come on, you smoky bastard! 187 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,560 (CLATTERING) 188 00:11:13,560 --> 00:11:15,240 Oh! 189 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:16,600 Grab it again. 190 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,280 Out here. Go. Fuck. Keep going. 191 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,320 (FIRE ROARS) 192 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,640 Can you work the pump? 193 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,600 Get back in! Back in! 194 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,400 Back in! 195 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:38,440 Yeah. 196 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,520 I mean, because I'd already lost my ute, my brother had lost his ute, 197 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,240 both with the fire fighters on the back. 198 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,160 So, then we were down to just my dad's ute with the fire fighter, 199 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,280 and that had run out of water. 200 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:53,520 We'd sort of extinguished our fire fighting capabilities at that stage. 201 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,560 So, we sort of had to abandon ship, so to speak, on the house. 202 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:02,360 Grabbed a few things we could and then left. 203 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,880 I mean, I grew up here, 204 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,320 spent the last 10 years making it my place 205 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,080 and, you know, a family home, 206 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,640 and then... 207 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,800 ..yeah, to walk away from that... 208 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,360 ..it's pretty hard, so... 209 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,080 Yeah, I mean, it's still hard. 210 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,600 There's a... 211 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,640 There's a lot of hours at work. 212 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,440 It's a lot of time. A lot of money. 213 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,600 Back to zero. 214 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,120 So... 215 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,120 There was nearly a dream here. 216 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,400 It's, uh... 217 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,440 It's mostly been wiped out now. 218 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,040 Yeah, like... This is the thing that amazes me. 219 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,800 See that? The windows have run down. 220 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,200 If we go in there and have a... 221 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,320 Look - the actual shithouse has exploded. 222 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:14,720 Oh, this is fuckin'... 223 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,880 This is worth millions of dollars. 224 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,560 I didn't realise garlic burnt so well. 225 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,400 There's 12 boxes of garlic here. 226 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:28,800 DIRECTOR: Roasted garlic? Yeah! 227 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,080 Fucking completely rooted. 228 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,440 Potatoes to plant. 229 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,880 Fucked. 230 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,920 How many tonnes do you want? 231 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:42,880 Fuck. 232 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,240 It is just so bloody wrong. 233 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,680 It is so wrong. 234 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,640 We sold 750 tonnes of spuds here. 235 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,400 Well, there was... 236 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,240 There's five of us on Kangaroo Island. 237 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,880 And we do 25% of Australia's seed. 238 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,440 There was over 100... or probably closer to $200,000 worth 239 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,200 of tools and shit in there. 240 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,240 This is a Makita drill. 241 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,840 (LAUGHS) 242 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,640 Each one of these here is worth 150... 243 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,360 Ooh, shit. 244 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,120 150 bucks each. Remi. 245 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,360 Ooh! 246 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,560 (GRUNTS) 247 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,040 Agh. 248 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,120 I've lost me shed... 249 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,240 ..probably $1.5 million worth of machines... 250 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,280 ..my house and all the sheds, 251 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,200 Mum's house, 252 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,680 all the sheds. 253 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,920 The house has exploded. 254 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,840 Yeah, somewhere in here is their wedding rings. 255 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,840 Yeah. 256 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,360 You know, the thing I'm really pissed off about 257 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,640 is that we lost all the history of our family. 258 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,640 Like, it's just... 259 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,720 You got all the photos 260 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,560 and all the stuff for the kids, 261 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,360 and...nothing left, mate. 262 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,200 Not a cracker. 263 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,320 (EXHALES HEAVILY) 264 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,760 Do you start up again or not? 265 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,280 DO you start up again? 266 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,560 That is a bloody good question. 267 00:16:10,265 --> 00:16:13,160 (KIDS CHATTER) 268 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,840 (LAUGHTER, CHATTER) 269 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,120 Fantastic, just so I can touch base and see where they're at. 270 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,640 So, we've got a hub further down 271 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,120 where we're collecting 272 00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:06,440 lots of non-perishable food items, 273 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,920 and then we've got plenty of water 274 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,440 to be able to hand out. 275 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,000 Today is an exceptionally hot day, 276 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,800 and, so, we've been handing out ample amounts of water, 277 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,720 and everyone's been loving it. 278 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,760 In through the back room here, 279 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,080 this is where we have all of our tools. 280 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,080 So, we've got a lot of hand tools, electrical equipment 281 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,520 and things to be able to equip people with... 282 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,760 ..to be able to get back onto their properties and start doing things. 283 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,200 All through here 284 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,120 we've got lots of bedding and sleeping bags and things like that. 285 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:40,840 So, we've had plenty of people come in. 286 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,880 At the moment we've got dozens of locals out there 287 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,400 in campervans, caravans, people's sheds and things like that. 288 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,960 So, they're just living with the bare necessities, 289 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,360 and whatever we can equip them with has just been fantastic. 290 00:17:56,360 --> 00:18:02,320 As a club, we purchased a washing machine and a chest freezer. 291 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,320 So, we're now calling this back room the laundry. 292 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,640 We've got our chest freezer full of bread and frozen meat 293 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,960 to be able to send off to the community as well. 294 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,640 We've got people coming in with Eskys that we've provided them with 295 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,160 and little butane burners or barbecues 296 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,960 where they can go home and have a bit of a feed. It's good. 297 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,200 A lot of our donations come in 298 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,960 from a place called Island Care in Kingscote, 299 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,000 where they're receiving donations statewide. 300 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,840 We've almost been a little bit overwhelmed 301 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,320 with all of these supplies, 302 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,920 but these will definitely be sent out in care packages 303 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,440 as we make visits out to residents. 304 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,200 We'd been out on the front all day. 305 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,800 The day the fire swept through Parndana 306 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,640 was a really, really big day for us. 307 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,480 And to kind of go home and see the devastation 308 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,200 that the island was under after that day 309 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,600 and to see it first hand so severe, 310 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,360 we just thought we had to do something 311 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:10,280 and support the community as much as we could. 312 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:15,080 So, we put together the caravan and made sure it was good to go, 313 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,800 and decided we could use that as an office 314 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,320 to be able to start collecting paperwork. 315 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,080 This is not an official emergency hub, 316 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,560 it's just something that the community has put together 317 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,040 as a local initiative. 318 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,560 And the amount of people we've helped... 319 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,000 Like, we're seeing a constant stream of people throughout the day, 320 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,680 and then around dinnertime we'll see people for a meal at night. 321 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,560 These people aren't just coming in for a visit. 322 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,600 They're coming in to pick up essential supplies. 323 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,320 I've seen people walk in that I know have lost absolutely everything 324 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,000 and go, "Oh, no, no, 325 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,760 "I only need, like, a shovel 326 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,440 "and I'll stay for dinner and I'll be right"... 327 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:02,920 ..head off, get a few jobs done and then come back again. 328 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,880 And I think just knowing this is here for them has been amazing. 329 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:12,520 But to see people come in so torn and so proud 330 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,440 is really quite heart-wrenching 331 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,920 to know that they have to, you know... 332 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,400 ..reached that point themselves to ask for help, 333 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,400 which is a really hard thing to do. 334 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,840 We've got a few guys that have been staying here, 335 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,760 actually, at the emergency hub 336 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,720 who have lost everything 337 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,720 and have loaded up their own vehicles 338 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,600 to go out and visit their mates 339 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,680 and take them supplies, 340 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,800 take them a few bags of feed and some food and clothes 341 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,160 and just check up on them and see how they're doing. 342 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:57,680 So, I've got myself and my three boys and my partner living in here. 343 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,280 And basic is basic. You don't need much to live. 344 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,240 We are being supplied with water, food, 345 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,680 and all we need to do is make sure 346 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,640 that all of our other friends have got shelter, water and food, 347 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,440 and that's all I'm focused on. 348 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,120 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 349 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:19,720 Yeah, I've done things that I wouldn't normally do. 350 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,320 I've pushed myself further than I normally would. 351 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,560 And coming here was a place to feel safe, number one, 352 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,040 and have friends around. 353 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,960 And you read on the sheets on the walls, 354 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,520 there's a lot of comfort in community. 355 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,240 So, you need to talk to people, 356 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,360 especially if you're not sleeping so well 357 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:38,520 and you're waking up with night sweats and terrors that wake you. 358 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,280 Yeah. All the guys I talked to 359 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,480 had about three...probably three different nights 360 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,640 of just sheer hell on earth, is what you've been through, 361 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,120 so, you recount it in your head and you wake up to it. 362 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:52,120 (KIDS CHATTER) 363 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,160 Yeah, that day just turned nasty. 364 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:46,480 And it was more about not fighting the fire but looking after people. 365 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,440 People first and then property, houses. 366 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,240 And... 367 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Yeah, like I said, it's just all a blur, running around and... 368 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,160 Like I said, we're a small crew out here, so, that's... 369 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,520 We're all stretched. (SIREN WAILS) 370 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,320 And then just work into the night, 371 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,120 a few hours' sleep and get into it the next day. 372 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:12,680 We don't really leave the fire ground until the job's done. 373 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,680 (INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER) Are you up Stokes Bay area at all? 374 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,720 There you go. 375 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,040 But you hear that, and all your friends live down there, 376 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,720 so, that's the bit about this fire is we know everybody. 377 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,680 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 378 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,920 That's why I've been here every day 379 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,480 because these guys, they have to... 380 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,320 ..when the flames pass their farm, 381 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,920 they have to go back and look at fences, look at their livestock. 382 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,720 So, they're still doing this and working the farm, 383 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,440 whereas I just live here, so, I can come here, 384 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,920 I open up, cook breakfast... 385 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,640 ..and I just have to worry about how I'm paying my rent. 386 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,320 That's all I need to do. 387 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,040 (OVER RADIO) If you can't get out with the front, 388 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,560 drop your side and just leave your front open. 389 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,040 Just keep following us. 390 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,400 All good. Just keep following us. 391 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,960 But drop your curtains on the side so only the driver in front is open. 392 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,800 Over. You've got 200 metres to go. Over. 393 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,880 Some of these guys have done up to 20 hours, 394 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,080 probably 19, 20 hours straight. 395 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,040 And if you're doing something and it's being productive, 396 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,920 you don't just stop and go home. 397 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,480 Your adrenaline is running, so, you can't sleep anyway. 398 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,600 So, even at the end of those shifts, 399 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,320 we'd sit down and have a beer and talk about it. 400 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,120 And that's when... 401 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:55,520 You know, I live across the street and I've slept on the floor here. 402 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,000 You just collapse in a heap and get up and go to work. 403 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,240 You might get two hours, if you're lucky. Broken sleep. 404 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,680 And... 405 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:10,480 So, really, we've been doing this for a month flat-out. 406 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,240 It's not until this is all over 407 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,200 you're going to go, "Wow. Now what do we do?" 408 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,720 Because we're still in it. 409 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,800 My mate lives down here. 410 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,080 We just sat on the same track 411 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,240 protecting his house. 412 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,520 After we did a 17-hour day and then...or a 19-hour day, 413 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,720 and then went to bed at 4:00 in the morning, 414 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,400 got up at 6:00, 415 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,160 and did 17 hours. 416 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,520 And I was sitting in his toilet, 417 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,000 and I could see smoke coming out of the walls and off the floor. 418 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,400 And I went out and I said, "I need a day off." 419 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,040 That was a week and a half into all of this. 420 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,800 Yeah. 421 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,600 Oh, when you ask... 422 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,320 .."How's it going?" 423 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,520 you know, fucking hell, it's a blur. 424 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,000 That's WHY it's a blur. 425 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,000 Because you're not going to go to sleep 426 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,960 when your mate's house is under fire. 427 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,600 It was the sheer intensity of the fire and the fact that it happened... 428 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,000 People couldn't be in front of it trying to do something with it. 429 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,840 Like, normally, a fire comes through 430 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,800 and there'd be a bunch of farmers there 431 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,360 with their small units and they'd make sure sheep were out the road. 432 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,320 Generally we can pull fires up. 433 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,960 You know, if it had been daylight and planes could have been flying, 434 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,160 houses wouldn't have been lost. 435 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,680 I've heard it said that it was blowing 140 kays. 436 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,360 Now, I've been out in some pretty strong winds, 437 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,000 obviously, living on Kangaroo Island. 438 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,320 And you might curse them and lose your hat, but you can stand up. 439 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,200 That night I was struggling to stand up in some of them. 440 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,400 Basically went from the south coast to the north coast 441 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,960 in maybe two hours. 442 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,480 And if you're trying to save anything in front of that, 443 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,760 then you're kidding yourself. 444 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,520 In hindsight, there was nothing I could have done. 445 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,000 You know, the ute was the safest spot in the corner until it caught alight. 446 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,960 (CHUCKLES SOFTLY) 447 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,600 Once a park catches fire, it's very hard to stop, 448 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,880 especially if you have high fuel loads, 449 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,200 like we have in this area here. 450 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,480 You've got weather events with strong winds, high temperatures. 451 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,360 You can't really stop a fire anymore. 452 00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,040 The reality is, 453 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,800 if you look at the analysis of fire and the landscape 454 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,280 and the climate that we currently have and the climate predictions, 455 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,640 the experts are really all quite clear about it. 456 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,760 You can't really prevent this with prescribed burning, 457 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,920 with cutting bigger patches out. 458 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,360 It will not change it. 459 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,760 You cannot stop fires with the climate that we have. 460 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,880 When you're not allowed to burn strategically 461 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,440 like we used to burn out our creek lines and roadsides 462 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,320 and this sort of thing... 463 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,440 Now we're not allowed to do that. We get fined. 464 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,160 Can be quite large fines if you are seen to be doing anything like that. 465 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,480 So, we have sort of got our hands tied. 466 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,480 And then the people in power 467 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,000 to do the so-called reduction of fuel loads, 468 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,960 they do not carry it out. 469 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,960 There's a classic of this with the park. 470 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,040 Flinders Chase Park itself, for the past 30 years, 471 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,840 that has not had a proper break, earth break, like it used to have. 472 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,520 When does it come about 473 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,960 that they'll listen to local knowledge 474 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,880 and go from there? 475 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,200 You know, we haven't been able to take sensible management 476 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,680 for managing native vegetation 477 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,840 for the last 30, 40 years. 478 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,200 This place was last burned in about 1952, I reckon. 479 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,600 So, we had huge build-ups around here and everywhere else in between, 480 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,920 and it just steamrolled through that. 481 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,880 We've just got to do something with the landscape. 482 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,920 We just can't have forestry and native vegetation 483 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,440 linked one to another. 484 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,040 It's exactly the same as the Chase. 485 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,080 It had gone through and totally wiped the Chase. 486 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,600 That can't happen either. You're going to have to have that broken up. 487 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,600 I mean, we've just wiped out, you know... 488 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,400 ..goodness knows how many wildlife in this. 489 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,360 And that's not conservation. 490 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,800 Not at all. 491 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,320 Always been against bushfires. They are... 492 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,120 They're not a necessary thing when they're out of control. 493 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,320 They're OK if they're working for you but not against you. 494 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,000 I've raised my family here, 495 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,960 and the main gist of all of this is fairness for the community people. 496 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:26,320 And there's so much wrong I see in all of this 497 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,000 through not being done the right way. 498 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,880 Legislated whichever way you go. Red tape. 499 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:37,760 It's Australia-wide, but we cop it on Kangaroo Island at a regular basis, 500 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,800 and people get hurt. 501 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,160 We need to see change. And everyone promises change. 502 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,440 And I'm not supposed to talk about things 503 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,520 because we're supposed to move on. 504 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,600 But, if you can't learn by your mistakes, 505 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,320 what is the point of all this anyway? 506 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,120 BEN DAVIS: It's only 13 years ago that all the national park burnt. 507 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,240 And here we are again. You know? 508 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,960 But this time it burnt properly 509 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,160 and then it burnt everyone. 510 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,960 You know, this time round they let a fire start, 511 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,320 and then it was a bad day. 512 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,480 There is a bit of 'us and them', 513 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,360 and not just between farmers, 514 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,760 but in general between governments, farmers, 515 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,520 different departments have different views. 516 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,600 At the end of the day, this park has always been here. 517 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,760 And, if you look over the last 150 years or so, 518 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,680 there's been a lot of land clearing here on Kangaroo Island, 519 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,520 and more and more, especially after the Second World War. 520 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,520 We have inserted ourselves into a landscape 521 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,920 that naturally has got native vegetation, 522 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,280 so, we can't then turn around and say, "That is the problem." 523 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,080 That's always a challenge. 524 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,360 You know, who's at fault? What's at fault? 525 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,600 Do we simply want to get rid of all the native vegetation 526 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,960 to make it clear, make it safe? 527 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,760 I don't think that's the answer. 528 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,080 BEN DAVIS: Just more frustration of the system, 529 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,600 that you keep making the same mistake and just you don't learn from it. 530 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,480 I mean, there's a lot of people around that are quite angry. 531 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,000 They've got not much left and got out just alive. 532 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Yeah, and I'm pretty angry, really, 533 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,680 that this is the sort of loss we suffered. 534 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,160 It didn't have to happen. 535 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,560 With good management from a lot of people, this didn't have to happen. 536 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,840 We didn't have to bury 2,500 sheep. 537 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,320 We didn't have to go now and rebuild all our sheds, houses, fences. 538 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,160 We lost all the fences. 539 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,800 There's always a fire risk. 540 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,480 Always has been, always will be. 541 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,640 But it doesn't have to be as bad as this. 542 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,240 What am I most angry about? 543 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,960 National Parks and Wildfire Service. 544 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,520 They don't do anything. 545 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,360 Right? They sit there, they make all... 546 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,360 They get paid all year. They do not do their burn-offs. 547 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,400 Right? 548 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,840 They've done one hell of a burn-off now. 549 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,800 Parks need to be burnt. 550 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,360 I mean, you drive around now and you look 551 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,800 and everything's regrowing. 552 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,840 That's what it does. 553 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,920 It burns and everything's reshooting 554 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,680 because that's what this scrub... that's how it lives. 555 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,160 But it needs to be burnt 556 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,960 at a time when it's not going to be a monster 557 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,280 that just keeps rolling across people's places. 558 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,760 Frustration is there quite a bit amongst some people 559 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,160 and other people just get on with it. 560 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,560 They know it is so complex. You can't blame anyone. 561 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,960 These things just happen and there's no easy solution. 562 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,960 (WIND WHOOSHES) 563 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,800 That's right. The fire could have been put out... 564 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,680 By two people. ..two people, 565 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,360 ..out, right out west... 566 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,840 By bulldozer and a grader. 567 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,960 ..and would've saved save two lives and over half of Kangaroo Island. 568 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,280 Good mate of ours, like, Skinny, 569 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,920 he had his bulldozer sitting there and he's watching it. 570 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,480 He watched the lightning strike. 571 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,960 He was sitting there and he could have moved in and stopped it. 572 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120 The Parks wouldn't let him go in there... Couldn't go. 573 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,400 ..'cause you can't damage the park's, you know, vegetation. 574 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,560 So, he was sitting there for eight hours. 575 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,640 And then they said, "Oh, you can go in now." 576 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,360 It was too late. And by then it was already too late. 577 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600 When he first saw it, it would have been the size of two utes. 578 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,200 He had to wait for permission from National Parks. We had to wait eight hours. 579 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,520 'Cause it was IN the park. 580 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,720 If it was on his own land he could have just gone and done the scrub. 581 00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,680 Could've been there in 15 minutes. He could have driven in there and pushed up around it, 582 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,880 pushed a break around it, it would have all been done. 583 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,760 There was no dozer lines put in until he had permission 584 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,760 'cause otherwise he'd get sued by Parks. 585 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,600 So, we got to the fire at about 11 o'clock 586 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,080 when he said, "Can you get out and have a look at our farm?" 587 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,040 And no worries, so, we've driven out there. 588 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,720 And there was our two units and one other unit there 589 00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:39,160 and then... Private unit. 590 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,920 ..yeah, private units. 591 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,200 And then a thing went out over Facebook, 592 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,120 and there was about 30 farm units there before a CFS truck got there. 593 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,920 Oh, it was out of control. There was nothing we could do about it. 594 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,920 (WATER PATTERS) 595 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,680 (FIRE WHOOSHES) 596 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,920 (FIRE CRACKLES) 597 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,160 It was sighted earlier 598 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,640 by people out at my property 599 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,800 that my son and I have got out in the West End, 600 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,800 only kilometres away from where the impact was, and... 601 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,120 My daughter phoned me. She was out there. 602 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:47,440 She phoned about 3:15, 3:20 on the morning of the 30th 603 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,720 and just said, "Dad, there's a fire in the park close by." 604 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:54,200 We were crewed at the school, 605 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,960 and when the pagers first went off at 4:30 in the morning, 606 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,360 we were told... 607 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,880 .."No, hang on, just don't rush out yet 608 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,920 "because the lightning storm is still coming through." 609 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,160 I flew out to the site, 610 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,640 coming into the scene where the ignition point was. 611 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,320 Got the western end of the island through there. 612 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,600 You've got your border road that comes back up through here. 613 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,000 And you've got West End Highway through here. 614 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,560 You've got Shackle Road. 615 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,440 We had a lightning strike in here. 616 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,120 So, that was the initial impact there. 617 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,240 And then we had the other, the second strike, 618 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:35,880 which was actually the ravine strike out there. 619 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,360 Now one machine was right there in the area. 620 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,560 Mine was on the low loader here at the farm. 621 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,000 That's only 30 minutes away. 622 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,800 Some people said, "Oh, you weren't responding straightaway." 623 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,640 It's not that we weren't responding straightaway, 624 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,600 it's because we were waiting for the band to come through 625 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,320 to ensure that there wasn't other priorities 626 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,880 that were going to be greater 627 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,120 than going to a fire that we couldn't access anyway. 628 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,640 Had we been able to go in there, do a ring around this area, 629 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,760 which was done quickly with two machines, 630 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,880 and then you do a path back out again 631 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,160 so trucks can actually drive in 632 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,800 to do the containment afterwards. 633 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,520 But what had happened then, 634 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,760 we were left stranded with the idea we weren't allowed in there. 635 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,520 So, once we've had the edge 636 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,360 put up through here to stop the fire on the back, 637 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,080 we've come in through behind 638 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,040 with a loader from there and a dozer from this side 639 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,560 and...to try and meet up. 640 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,880 This fire here took up a lot of appliances, 641 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,720 bulldozers, graders, 642 00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:05,960 all trying to contain what was started off as a small, little fire. 643 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,960 And the main thing with all of this 644 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,200 was we spent several days trying to contain this one 645 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,320 that I believe we could have put out in a matter of hours, 646 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,000 and the other fire was building the whole time. 647 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,480 Had that not been there, 648 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,160 then these resources can be used for the main one. 649 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,480 I actually thought that the fire on the eastern side of Shackle Road 650 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,240 was the fire that was of the greatest priorities. 651 00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:33,760 We could attack that one. 652 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,240 The fire on the western side was 17 kilometres in. 653 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,480 You know, if we had have gone in there with the dozers to there, 654 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,800 I don't think that we would have made it 655 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,720 before it would have gone through anyway. 656 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:52,200 I could have 95% guaranteed putting that small fire out 657 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,320 had we been allowed in there with bulldozers. 658 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,720 Look, we did the best that we could on the day. 659 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:00,440 (PHONE LINE RINGS) 660 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,240 STAFFER: CFS Media. This is (BLEEP!) 661 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,320 DIRECTOR: Hi, (BLEEP!) My name is Stephen. 662 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,240 Look, I'm just doing some research 663 00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,200 into specifically the fires on Kangaroo Island 664 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,280 just to get a top-level perspective of, I guess, the entire effort. 665 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,480 What we heard was, if I'm totally honest - 666 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,600 and that's why I want to speak to you guys 667 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,360 because I want to get the truth of the matter - 668 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,040 we heard a lot of anger 669 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,640 really around the fact that they were told 670 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,360 that they couldn't put out the fire when the lightning first struck. 671 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,760 So, we're really just looking to corroborate that. 672 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,800 Yes. Is that what you mean? 673 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,280 Yeah. Correct. 674 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,640 The Premier has ordered an immediate review 675 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,880 into South Australia's deadly bushfires. 676 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,440 We will immediately push ahead with an inquiry and a review 677 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,560 into the bushfire preparedness. 678 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,000 Trust that the review will be managed quite tightly, 679 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,520 but it's a great vehicle 680 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,520 by which to capture a whole lot of disparate views and opinions. 681 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,800 Could've? Maybe. Should've? Maybe. 682 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,880 But people always say that in fire situations, 683 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,320 and they need to be strong in their evidence. 684 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,840 If that's correct, if they're correct, and they may well be, 685 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,480 we need to know 686 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,600 because after 2007 fires 687 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,480 a lot of this came out and nothing was done, 688 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,880 nothing was done by the government at the time. 689 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,520 We need to get to the truth of what really happened. 690 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,000 I think if you're going to have a fire in the middle of summer, 691 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,560 it's not a good idea. 692 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,840 Not in 50,000 hectares of scrub. 693 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,120 So, if a fire is in there 694 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520 and you've got the opportunity to put it out, 695 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,160 you probably want to put it out. 696 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,880 There was never enough effort put in initially 697 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,280 for the fire to be stopped before it got going, 698 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,360 before it turned into this and it WAS controllable. 699 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,800 So... And when it was... it started off. 700 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,640 It's a lightning strike. So, it's a small fire. 701 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,960 Early morning it rained. 702 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:03,360 (ROTORS WHIRR) So, you know, it was... 703 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,760 You start bombing something then and get it wet, it's controllable. 704 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,680 There was no need for this to happen. 705 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,120 We have to become more resilient 706 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,960 in terms of what sort of buildings are we putting in the landscape? 707 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,880 What sort of fences? 708 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,000 How do we do prescribed burns? 709 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,440 How do we resource that well that you get the best chance? 710 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,960 And surely do something about climate change 711 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,800 so this doesn't get worse and worse. 712 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,160 Clearly, the landscape has become drier, 713 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,040 so, this event may not be the last one. 714 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,680 Touch wood. 715 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,320 And here we go with climate change. 716 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,440 Why don't we just call it the earth does what it does in nature. 717 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,760 And climate changed the jobs for the boys. 718 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,480 And, people, get off the bandwagon. 719 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,200 My own personal thoughts 720 00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:01,480 is will climate change affect me at being 45 years old? 721 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,440 And it may slightly. 722 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,800 Will it affect my kids? 723 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,320 Yes, it will. 724 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,920 Will it affect their kids? 725 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,440 Most definitely. 726 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,000 Did climate change cause this fire? 727 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,800 No. This was lightning. 728 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,240 This was lightning in inaccessible country. 729 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:23,880 This was just the perfect storm 730 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,960 and the perfect opportunity, the right conditions, 731 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,440 and it made a run. 732 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,040 If in event this happened again, I would be prepared. 733 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,520 I've gone past 70, 734 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,920 so, I'll be prepared to go straight in with a bulldozer 735 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,960 and I'll wear the consequences afterwards. 736 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,040 I think it's a childish behaviour on all parts 737 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,760 to say, "You're not allowed in there." 738 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,200 We don't... We hardly make a mark. 739 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,840 We make a clean break, yes, 740 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,440 but we don't go in there and devastate the country. 741 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,520 Turn around now and have a look at what devastation looks like 742 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,520 through not doing firebreaks properly. 743 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,160 And the farmers and everyone here 744 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,480 deserve a lot better than what we get. 745 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,360 We euthanased about another 12 today. Yep. 746 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,800 It doesn't. It's... 747 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,720 ..a pretty hard...hard day when you've got to go out 748 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:48,680 and shoot something that you thought enough of to look after. 749 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,960 I don't think any farmers would find that very easy. 750 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,920 (SHEEP BLEAT) 751 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,000 However, it's a fact of life. 752 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,200 You can't leave them suffering if they're not going to make it. 753 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:07,720 And they've had three weeks now to get over it, 754 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:09,680 and a lot of them have, of course, 755 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,800 and we've put a huge amount of time into them and continue to do so. 756 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,120 The fire come through on the Friday, right? 757 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,320 On the Saturday we were cleaning up dead cows. 758 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,880 These poor bastards didn't even have ears on them. 759 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,320 To lose all my animals as well, that was the hardest bit, 760 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,280 to have to come back then and try and deal with, 761 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,120 you know, the fact that you've lost 762 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,680 everything that I've spent the last 10 years breeding up 763 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,680 and buying...you know, buying good animals to breed 764 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,520 so you've got a good bloodline going 765 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,400 to then have nothing left. 766 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,440 It's... Yeah, that's probably the hardest bit. 767 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,200 You know, I've got a sheep dog and no sheep. 768 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,680 You know, I've got a house dog and no house. 769 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,000 I fear that, you know, all that work 770 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,040 is going to be really hard to... 771 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:12,360 ..to get back, you know, to anything close to where I was. 772 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,120 You know? 773 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,240 So, I've got... I mean, I've got my family. 774 00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:20,200 Everyone says that. I mean, that's the most important thing. 775 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,280 But it's still hard to, you know... 776 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,760 And I know it's hard for them to come back and look at it. 777 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,440 And they always ask, the kids are like, 778 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,280 "Are you staying out there again, Dad?" 779 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,600 You know... 780 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,520 And that's probably the hardest thing for me at the moment. 781 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,360 SHANE QUIRK: Seeing our mate's house 782 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,800 that have got a couple of small kids that don't have a home anymore. 783 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,280 Adults can get over it. They can get over their loss. 784 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:53,160 But small children with a room full of toys is their world, 785 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,200 and that'll be the hardest thing for them. 786 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,360 You know, you've got to look after the young people. 787 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,600 Adults can bounce back. 788 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,000 Hey, look, mate, I am fucked. 789 00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:36,480 Bullshit. Yeah, well, I... 790 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,040 It's taken me over 20 years to get to here. 791 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,840 I just don't understand. 792 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,160 What... 793 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,320 Fuck. 794 00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,600 You know, like, I used to... 795 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,160 ..turn over fucking... 796 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,680 ..employ 14 people. 797 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,760 What do I do now? 798 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,200 The marks on the road where two people died. 799 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,520 We drove past when the cops were marking that out. 800 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,600 And that's just going to be a memorial for those couple of lads. 801 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,720 I mean, that's the pinnacle, isn't it? Lives are lost. 802 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,920 (WAVES CRASH) 803 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,520 We're more than lucky here. 804 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,440 More than... More than lucky. 805 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,120 We've got... You know, still got the business. Still got the home. 806 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,840 Other people... 807 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,360 Mm. 808 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,080 I've thought a lot about it last night. A lot. 809 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,040 Spent a lot of time thinking about it, and it... 810 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,400 I'm...yeah, not... 811 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,640 Not fully comfortable. 812 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,400 Survivor's guilt is such an apt word. 813 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,480 It's... 814 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,520 And it's... Almost everyone on the island is affected by it, 815 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,800 and it goes as far as some people even reluctant to say, you know, 816 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,760 that they had a good weekend 817 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,080 or that they enjoyed the movie 818 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,840 that they recently saw on the mainland 819 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,800 or that they actually go and support some of the local businesses 820 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,280 just immediately after the fire 821 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,680 and have a glass of wine at the cellar door. 822 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,720 You know, our life is... essentially, it's normal here, 823 00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:38,080 whereas for so many people it's not normal. 824 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,040 They don't have a home to go to. 825 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,600 Those people are hurting, 826 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,080 are really hurting. 827 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,480 From the pubs to the sporting clubs to accommodation, 828 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,040 it's farmers, it's shearers. 829 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,800 Shearers... 830 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,120 ..they're... 831 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,480 There's 100,000-plus sheep gone. 832 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:07,720 This fire has echoed through every aspect of the community. 833 00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:10,320 HEIRI KLEIN: I've also spoken to one particular couple. 834 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,560 They run a farm and they lost pretty much everything on the farm, 835 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,400 and they kept stressing that, since they didn't lose their house, 836 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,120 they are so much better off than all the others. 837 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,920 And I said, "No, don't kid yourself," 838 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,960 you know, "it doesn't diminish what you went through because it's huge." 839 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,960 MATTHEW JOHNSON: We evacuated here on the Friday. 840 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,120 I went to the CFS station. 841 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:39,440 I've been on and off fire trucks, farm units, food runs. 842 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,920 So, you never even contemplate being open. 843 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,760 Even if we did have power and we did have the ability to open. 844 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,120 Not when something like this is going on. 845 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,160 You just... 846 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,680 ..do what you do. 847 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,920 You help. 848 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,640 Help. It's all hands on deck. 849 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,160 How do we go forward? 850 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:06,040 How do we try and be as helpful and as kind to each other as we can? 851 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,040 Because it's tough. 852 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,200 Not so much for me, 853 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,400 but for the people that have lost everything. 854 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,320 Unfortunately, the truth that it was...'disallow' was the word, 855 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,400 "I do not allow you to put out that burning fire"... 856 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,920 So, we found a burning fire. We were not allowed to put it out. 857 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,520 In hindsight, 858 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,120 I would have been happy to be the guy in the plane that lost his job. 859 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,520 I would have been happy to be the farmer in the bulldozer 860 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,040 that would have lost his job. 861 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,920 And we weren't allowed to extinguish a fire that's killed two people. 862 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,160 So, yeah, that's the kind of hurt and anger 863 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,000 that's flowing around at the moment. 864 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,120 SAM MUMFORD: It worries me that people are talking class actions, 865 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,680 and all that's going to do is divide a community. 866 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,440 The only way we'll get through this is as a community. 867 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,760 I'm incredibly proud of what's happened here. 868 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,520 These guys that work in the Parks and these guys that work on KIPT 869 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,480 they have worked their absolute... off on this fire 870 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,840 and, mate, they're part of this community, right? 871 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,840 The rocks will be thrown, right? 872 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,640 There's going to be a coronial inquest into this fire. 873 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,720 So, they shouldn't be thrown from here. 874 00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:22,760 Once it's all said and done, the government will come back and say, 875 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,520 "Well, this is what happened and this is why it happened." 876 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,520 We don't need to put division in this community 877 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,360 when the whole community is hurting. 878 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,840 We need to get through this and we need to get through this together. 879 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,240 You know, if it wasn't for the community, 880 00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:38,880 you know, outflowing and help, 881 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,160 I guess I'd be very angry and bitter. 882 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,800 But even the help of other people 883 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,800 doesn't overcome the fact that, you know, 884 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,440 we're canned, and we didn't really need to be canned. 885 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,960 That's probably the scariest thing. 886 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,160 That would be the scariest thing looking forward, 887 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,640 would be its ability to create divides within the community 888 00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,440 and affect friendships and whatnot. 889 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,360 That would be the biggest concern. 890 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,120 I think this is a real opportunity 891 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,320 and a good test for leaders as well 892 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,680 to show what they can do, 893 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,520 whether they can be divisive or bring people together. 894 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,640 It's easy to start shifting blame, 895 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,080 but at the end of the day, you have to get out of this all together. 896 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,080 I think we can be a stronger place after this 897 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,760 and things will bounce back. 898 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,200 Things will bounce back. 899 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,760 MATTHEW JOHNSON: Kangaroo Island 900 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:46,840 has one of the tightest communities going. 901 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,120 People care. 902 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,320 People genuinely care about each other, 903 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,680 whether there be, you know, 904 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,800 your neighbour next door or Joe Bloggs 50 kay down the road 905 00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,800 or the fellow at the other end of the island 906 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,200 who you've played footy against your whole life, 907 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,880 and, you know, you may not be best mates on field, 908 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,520 when something like this happens 909 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,520 all that...that none of that counts. 910 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,480 SAM MUMFORD: I'm incredibly proud to live where we live. 911 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,080 The thing that everyone says, like, 912 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,280 "Kangaroo Island is a beautiful place to visit." 913 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,840 Mate, it's a better place to live. 914 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,880 Everybody cares for everyone. 915 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,280 And when something like this happens, 916 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,040 you realise, you know, just how lucky we are to be where we are. 917 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,800 So... 918 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,200 And that's how we're going to get through this. 919 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,840 The community is too... 920 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,280 ..too strong to let... 921 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,760 ..this beat it. 922 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,600 That's what keeps you going. 923 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,320 You know, you know you've got support. 924 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,640 I don't know how would have gone trying to do all this by myself. 925 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,320 Like, you can't even imagine 926 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,200 the amount of work that's been done here by other people is... 927 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,080 Yeah. It's crazy. 928 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,080 I can't tell you how grateful I am. 929 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,600 I mean, within two days, 930 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,040 I had people out here helping me with the livestock. 931 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,600 A week later, the army arrived and tore all my fences down, 932 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,920 you know, helped me start rebuilding, installed a toilet for me, 933 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,560 cut down trees that were a hazard. 934 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,480 Just amazing amount of work. 935 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,240 And they did that in a day and a half. 936 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,720 It's months of work for me 937 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,800 what they managed to do in a day and a half. 938 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,240 I've got a mate here, he's still here, 939 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,800 he comes, you know, 940 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,880 given up his, you know, jobs that he should be doing himself 941 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,920 just to come here to make sure that, you know... 942 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,640 ..that I can get more jobs done. 943 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,360 SHANE QUIRK: We're living off the donations, 944 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,760 off the food that people have donated. 945 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,800 So, I don't have to worry about buying food. So, that's a godsend. 946 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,760 (LAUGHTER, CHATTER) 947 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,640 But, yeah, it's just living. 948 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,640 A lot of these people are proud 949 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,280 and they wouldn't accept donations normally. 950 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,720 And I'm the same. I... 951 00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,120 You know, I work, I work hard, 952 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,680 I don't really need donations, but... 953 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,520 It's not until you have a look at what's gone that... 954 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,520 You know, if you've got a toothbrush, someone will take it. 955 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,240 It's down to the bare essentials 956 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,640 that you can't say no anymore, 957 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,880 and you just start rebuilding. 958 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,960 So, people with no clothes except for what they wore on that day. 959 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,400 So, yeah, you can't say no to a donation. 960 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,560 Um... 961 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,720 Probably the... 962 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,360 (QUIETLY) Just cut it. 963 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,520 (SIGHS) 964 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,320 That's the difficult part - the help. 965 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,000 It's amazing. 966 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,400 (EXHALES HEAVILY) 967 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,360 Yeah, it's mind-blowing, really. Mm. 968 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,160 The army. 969 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,920 Blaze Aid. 970 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,200 Friends have lent us all the gear this year. 971 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,280 You know, it just goes on and on. 972 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,520 (SIGHS) That's the toughest part to deal with, actually. 973 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,480 Yeah, I guess I don't like charity much. 974 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,760 That's the hardest part. 975 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,800 People are well-meaning, and I guess I would have done it for others. 976 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,560 I had people ring and want my, you know, bank balance account. And... 977 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,680 You know, I really can't handle that. And... 978 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,200 But the community spirit is great. 979 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,240 Yeah. 980 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,200 We're all in this together. 981 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,200 And we'll dig through it and keep going. 982 01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,200 JADE VIVIENNE: This island, virtually, runs on tourism, 983 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,760 so, it's crucial to have people realise 984 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,040 that, yes, we've been burnt out, 985 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,080 but it's not going to stop us from moving forward. 986 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,880 But I'm absolutely optimistic it will bounce back, 987 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,720 everything will bounce back, 988 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,400 and it also shows how much support there already is 989 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,240 from the mainland and from consumers, 990 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,000 from tourism campaigns. 991 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,360 MATTHEW JOHNSON: The ripple effect from this will go for years 992 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:21,480 until an absolute minimum for the tourism industry next summer... 993 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,080 ..when hopefully we're back up, 994 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,520 as, you know, South Australia's iconic island, 995 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,920 Kangaroo Island and nature's paradise. 996 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,200 The Kangaroo Island that people love is still here. 997 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,040 We've still got half of the island untouched. 998 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,880 Come here. Enjoy it. 999 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,160 There's so many beaches and cafes and wineries. 1000 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,640 The wild, rustic, 1001 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,840 you're-on-the edge-of-the-earth feeling is still here. 1002 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,000 Experience the culture. Experience the locals. 1003 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,360 Come and see us. You know, that's the most important thing you can do. 1004 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,640 Kangaroo Island really needs you to come. 1005 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,600 I travel ban will be placed 1006 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,280 on all non-residents, non-Australian citizens, 1007 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,720 coming to Australia, 1008 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,840 and that will be in place from 9:00PM tomorrow evening. 1009 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,560 There's panic and confusion across the state tonight 1010 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,080 as South Australians prepare to go into total lockdown. 1011 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,720 From midnight we're being told to stay at home. 1012 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,560 So, this used to be the big shed. 1013 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,920 (LAUGHS) 1014 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,080 She all got ripped down. 1015 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,320 Cleaned up. 1016 01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,880 Seeing everything you've worked for... 1017 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,920 ..get pulled down and crushed, 1018 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,840 just get...yeah. 1019 01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,640 Like your whole life just destroyed. 1020 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,240 You know? Very depressing. 1021 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,000 Yeah. 1022 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,400 And then having to clean it up. 1023 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,720 (CHUCKLES) 1024 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:12,400 SHANE QUIRK: Yeah, as a tradie I've just been flat-out working. 1025 01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,800 So, yeah, it's normal. 1026 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,280 That's the normal. 1027 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,080 What amazed me - how quick everybody just fired up 1028 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,880 when the farmers had to do their fencing, 1029 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,640 and it's just kept rolling. 1030 01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:30,200 Last 12 months it's been pretty crazy, really. 1031 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,520 It just never ends, so... 1032 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,960 Yeah. It helps you forget about it all. 1033 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,000 Everything's just so slow. 1034 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,120 They talk about recovery, but... 1035 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,680 My case manager, 1036 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,520 he's got about 10 people over here, 1037 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,360 and I know not one of them have got their loan yet, 1038 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,680 14 months on. 1039 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,600 We're farmers. We're not bloody accountants. 1040 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,880 You could start another bushfire with the amount of paperwork. 1041 01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,560 You know, we all pushed ourselves that much that it was... 1042 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,400 And I look back on it and I think, 1043 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,800 "How hard can the human body be pushed?" 1044 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,880 And I... 1045 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,560 You go to the brink, that's for sure. 1046 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,440 PETER LOCK: You know, when you've been burnt out, 1047 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,480 you're right at the bottom of the bottom... 1048 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,480 ..so, you've got to... 1049 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,960 All you want to do is see stuff going ahead to make you feel better 1050 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,480 so that you can actually work towards it. 1051 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,040 Everyone's struggling. 1052 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,800 You're basically fighting all this on your own. 1053 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,760 You've got your mates you just talk it over with. 1054 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,840 And they were in the same boat. 1055 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,440 They were busting their arse and getting nowhere. 1056 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,640 So... 1057 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,640 I don't know what the secret is to it. 1058 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,320 SHANE QUIRK: You know, I drive around the island 1059 01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:00,640 and I still go through what we were talking about on the radio. 1060 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,920 So, it is a flashback. It's a... 1061 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,080 It's weird. It's... 1062 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,040 Yeah, it gets you. It's got me. 1063 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,840 But, you know, 1064 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,320 like I say to the crew... 1065 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,080 ..it's the new normal. 1066 01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,840 Of course you're going to get stuff like that. 1067 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,400 Yeah, you might have a tear, and you... Yeah. 1068 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,160 But if you watch the news... 1069 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,640 (CHUCKLES DRYLY) 1070 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,080 ..it's not the worst thing that's happened to anybody. 1071 01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,560 PETER LOCK: Quite a few times I've wondered 1072 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,680 whether it was worth going on. 1073 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,800 If it wasn't for all the mates around here that got burnt out as well, 1074 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,440 like, you know... 1075 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,080 I think it's just that everyone else has kept everyone together. 1076 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,760 Because it's been bloody hard yards. 1077 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,600 This will all be 500-tonne cool room, this section here. 1078 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,600 Grading plant. 1079 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,520 I've got the footings down for the shed, 1080 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:10,120 but I just need to finish paying for the shed. 1081 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,440 There'll be a massive solar system on the roof. 1082 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,280 Be a big workshop at the back, 1083 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:23,320 and the trucks will come through and load undercover. 1084 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,560 So, yeah. 1085 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,560 If all the measurements are right, it should work mickey mouse. 1086 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,280 Ah, there's always great challenges. 1087 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,480 It's great fun. It's part of living the dream, mate. 1088 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,640 (BIRDS WARBLE) 1089 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,520 DAVE HALLORAN: Hopefully now we've had some meeting 1090 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,120 with the Parks people from Adelaide, 1091 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:57,200 they asked me to come in to put some opinions forward, which we did, 1092 01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:03,600 and instead of doing controlled burn-offs in October, November, 1093 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,920 I said that's way too late, 1094 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,920 and now the new bloke we've got in there, he's really good, 1095 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,800 so, they're burning this time of the year. 1096 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,520 And also interested in doing the big chain breaks in there 1097 01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,520 that we want to try and achieve. 1098 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,200 Let's hope something has sunk in. 1099 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,560 You know, I've been out to Flinders Chase 1100 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:28,880 and it's just that big that you can't carve it up in sections and... 1101 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,960 You follow a management plan 1102 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,680 and you can try, but it's all about the response 1103 01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,760 and do we learn the lessons? 1104 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:40,760 Do we... 1105 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,600 If it happens again, how are we going to deal with it? 1106 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,240 I'm hoping for a decent victory soon. 1107 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,720 The spuds coming out of the ground are good. That's a victory, I guess. 1108 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,840 That'll help pay towards some of the stuff. 1109 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,440 Just got to take little steps 1110 01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:59,360 and take a bite and chew like hell, I think. 1111 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:01,880 Just keep fighting. 1112 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,880 The only thing I can think of doing. 1113 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,800 Hopefully I'll be back on my feet within three or four years. 1114 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,880 Hopefully. 1115 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,680 If all the stars line up. 1116 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,440 (LAUGHS) 1117 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,320 So, yeah. 1118 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,040 Fucked if I know. 1119 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,920 We'll get there. 1120 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:45,640 NEWSREADER: The scathing report 1121 01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,720 found the fire service prioritised National Park buildings 1122 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,200 over homes. 1123 01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:00,000 They found that there were systemic failings 1124 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,800 in the way the CFS managed the KI fires last fire season, 1125 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,200 failings in communication 1126 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,160 and also bushfire-fighting procedures. 1127 01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,840 It also found there was a disproportionate focus 1128 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,760 on trying to save a National Park visitor centre 1129 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,280 instead of focusing on saving homes on the island, 1130 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,200 many of which were lost. 1131 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,840 There were nowhere near enough resources on the ground 1132 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,520 to fight this unpredictable blaze, according to the report, 1133 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,040 nor was there adequate technology, 1134 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,640 which meant that CFS crews were actually getting lost 1135 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,480 while fighting the blaze. 1136 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,520 The CFS has been accused of trying to cover up this report 1137 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,880 because it was finalised last October 1138 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,400 and it has just been released now. 1139 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,720 The CFS said that they wanted to make sure they briefed 1140 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,440 all of the volunteers involved 1141 01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:26,880 before speaking publicly about this. 1142 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,560 It has now been released publicly. 1143 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,920 And indeed there were 11 recommendations for changes 1144 01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,200 made in the report, 1145 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,200 all of which have been accepted by the CFS. 99010

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