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(FOOTSTEPS APPROACH)
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SHANE QUIRK:
The thing is that people stayed.
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You're not getting everyone out.
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I mean, I know some of the people
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that shouldn't have stayed,
civilians,
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that you should just get out
when it's that big.
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Your heart drops.
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You find out people are in somewhere
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and you know it's dangerous.
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But, yeah,
you knew it was going to turn bad
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because not everyone got out.
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(WIND HOWLS)
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(THUNDER CRASHES)
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(FIRE CRACKLES)
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Emergency warnings
are in place on Kangaroo Island,
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with concerns
about two towns under threat.
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The situation is still...
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The bottom of flames burning across
the trees and you cannot breathe.
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You're just going... (GASPS)
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REPORTER: In a place called Ravine
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there was an emergency warning
for that fire earlier on today.
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(FIRE ROARS)
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The entire island
is now under bushfire threat.
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Pretty much the worst day
of your life, really.
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Looking at a tsunami of fire
coming straight at you.
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The moment
when I felt really scared
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was when we were trapped
down at the beach.
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And that's when
we stayed the night here
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with tea towels as blankets
and all that.
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Yeah, when she rolled through,
yeah, she's on for young and old.
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It's a pretty traumatic experience.
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Never really
want to go through it again.
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(WIND WHOOSHES)
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(BIRDS TWITTER)
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So, this is the house
and four-wheeler that I got back here
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before I went looking
for somewhere to shelter.
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That didn't fare so well.
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But it wouldn't sell for much
at the moment, would it?
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Well, the worst moment, I suppose,
was trying to locate Jo,
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know where she'd gone.
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The kids had rung me,
so, they knew I couldn't find her.
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Yeah, I guess that was as bad...
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I was pretty nervous that I was
never going to get back to the house,
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and if I'd been
another 10 minutes later,
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that would have been a real issue.
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But I had no idea where Jo was,
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and I was aiming to get back
to try and do something with her.
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So, we just physically
didn't have any time to do anything.
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I mean, I knew from a bit after 7:00
we were goners.
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I reckon by 8:30 we were in real
trouble. The fire was on the farm.
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So, you know, you just can't prepare
with that amount of time.
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It was horrendous.
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Never seen anything like it
in my life.
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And I've spent my life
as a CFS member,
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deputy group officer for many years
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and I fought many fires.
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I don't think I've ever lost a house
in any fire I was running,
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and yet this one came through and
took out 60-odd houses or whatever.
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It's just right off the scale. Mm.
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Yeah, of course I can remember
what it looked like. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, well, Jo did a bit of that
while I was out moving sheep,
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so, we got out with the computer.
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I think she actually got passports.
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She forgot to get my wallet,
so, I didn't have any licences left.
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Yeah, she got some stuff out.
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She was pretty sensible, actually.
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Got a, um...
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..a blanket wet to cover herself in.
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But she didn't have long either.
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It came through here.
I came in from the other side.
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The rams, unfortunately,
were here around the tennis court
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and that's where I was trying
to get back in time to get them out,
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but just run out of time.
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If I'd gone out with them, I probably
wouldn't have got out myself, so...
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Yep.
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I had to leave them where they were.
Not one of them survived.
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They wouldn't have had a hope
out there.
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Mm.
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(COOS)
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You're a good old fella.
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Didn't know if he has to be put down,
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but hopefully in another three
or four days he'll be back to normal.
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Eh?
(PANTS)
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You're a good old dog.
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The thing that was pretty sobering,
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I woke up the next morning
after a couple of hours' sleep,
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and I had a pair
of dirty work clothes on,
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and that was about all I owned.
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You know, that is really
quite a sobering thought. Um...
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I'm living in other people's clothes
most of the time.
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It just seems staggering
how much you haven't got
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when you get in a situation
like this.
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Yeah, 3 January was
a pretty interesting day, obviously.
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It was our wedding anniversary,
in fact.
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51st.
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The day began
with patrolling hotspots
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from the fire that had been affecting
us for...since 20 December.
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And, in fact, during that day,
just after lunch,
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we were nearly burnt out
from the north
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with a fire running up at creek.
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We tried to back-burn.
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Got home at 6 o'clock
in the afternoon
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thinking we'd been saved,
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but the fire was raging down through
Flinders Chase, heading south.
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And I knew we would be impacted
at some point,
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but I thought two or three days.
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So, that was up until
about 7 o'clock.
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I got a message from a friend
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who was advising me then
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that 10 minutes it would be
on Rick Morris's place.
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So, at that point we hit the panic
buttons and filled up gutters.
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Then I headed off on a four-wheeler
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to try and move sheep
out of the path of the fire.
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I reckon when I left I had about
maybe 15, 20 metres of visibility,
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and by the time I got back
after moving one mile
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I had about two to three.
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I really struggled
to find my way back to the house.
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By the time I'd achieved that, there
were spot fires starting around me.
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I dumped the four-wheeler,
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got a couple of dogs in the front.
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One wouldn't jump in the front.
He was on the back.
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My wife was just leaving
with a vehicle
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to go to the local airstrip
where they fight fires from
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because I figured
that was a safe spot,
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and we headed off for that.
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And it was a confusion getting there
because we couldn't see the road.
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We just kept running off
one side or the other.
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And the last I saw of Jo
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was she'd panicked
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and didn't want to drive through
the roadside vegetation
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and I saw her backing back.
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By then
things were getting pretty hot
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and I had to park up
and find the coolest spot I could.
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And eventually the ute
was well alight,
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and I bailed out of that
and went looking for Jo.
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(WIND WHOOSHES)
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BEN DAVIS: So, this was like...
We had a guest room
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down the bottom of the house here.
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That's the...
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..was the en suite.
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Got the kids' bikes here.
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Yeah, that's probably
one of the hardest things
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and I think for the kids
it was as well.
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They, uh...
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They just got new bikes.
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And, so, then to see them like that,
yeah, that's pretty hard.
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Um... Probably having a house
is what you miss the most.
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You know, being able to sit on...
you know, sit on your couch at night
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and, you know, watch the cricket,
watch football, like, all the...
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..you know, just the little things
that you don't even think about,
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you know, walking into the kitchen
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and grabbing something
out of the fridge.
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Both the kids' chairs.
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That's all you can really see
left of their stuff.
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So, that was a Christmas present.
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Daughter's Christmas present.
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So, she'd barely used it.
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They'd been, you know... Some
of those things you don't even...
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She didn't even get a chance to use
her Christmas present, and it's gone.
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(EXHALES HEAVILY)
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We were in this room
when the fire went through.
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We can go to the bathroom
if we get stuck in this.
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No, you don't go into a room
you can't get out of.
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(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
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You go to...
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..down the back.
Stay away from the glass, mate.
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We were in a full-glass room,
basically,
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so, it's like being inside a tornado
that was on fire.
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Fuckin' hell!
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Don't worry, it's just the screen.
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(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
Yeah.
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(FIRE WHOOSHES)
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It's a tough bloody pump,
I'll give it that.
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Oh, wow.
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(EXHALES HEAVILY)
You alright?
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Yeah, I'll be looking on
that side... (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
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What was that?
Agh... Don't worry about it.
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I can't see a fucking thing.
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I think you'll need
a new cubby house, Ben.
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More than that, you're gonna need
a whole mob of sheep.
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Oh, fuck.
Yeah. We're fucking...
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(FIRE ROARS)
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Shut the door behind you.
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Yeah. Good plan.
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Come on, you smoky bastard!
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(CLATTERING)
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Oh!
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Grab it again.
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Out here. Go. Fuck. Keep going.
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(FIRE ROARS)
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Can you work the pump?
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Get back in! Back in!
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Back in!
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Yeah.
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I mean, because I'd already lost
my ute, my brother had lost his ute,
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both with the fire fighters
on the back.
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So, then we were down to just
my dad's ute with the fire fighter,
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and that had run out of water.
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We'd sort of extinguished our fire
fighting capabilities at that stage.
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So, we sort of had to abandon ship,
so to speak, on the house.
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Grabbed a few things we could
and then left.
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I mean, I grew up here,
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spent the last 10 years
making it my place
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and, you know, a family home,
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and then...
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..yeah, to walk away from that...
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..it's pretty hard, so...
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Yeah, I mean, it's still hard.
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There's a...
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There's a lot of hours at work.
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It's a lot of time. A lot of money.
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Back to zero.
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So...
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There was nearly a dream here.
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It's, uh...
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It's mostly been wiped out now.
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Yeah, like...
This is the thing that amazes me.
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See that? The windows have run down.
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If we go in there and have a...
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Look -
the actual shithouse has exploded.
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Oh, this is fuckin'...
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This is worth millions of dollars.
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I didn't realise
garlic burnt so well.
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There's 12 boxes of garlic here.
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DIRECTOR: Roasted garlic?
Yeah!
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Fucking completely rooted.
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Potatoes to plant.
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Fucked.
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How many tonnes do you want?
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Fuck.
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It is just so bloody wrong.
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It is so wrong.
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We sold 750 tonnes of spuds here.
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Well, there was...
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There's five of us
on Kangaroo Island.
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And we do 25% of Australia's seed.
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There was over 100...
or probably closer to $200,000 worth
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of tools and shit in there.
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This is a Makita drill.
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(LAUGHS)
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Each one of these here
is worth 150...
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Ooh, shit.
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150 bucks each. Remi.
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Ooh!
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(GRUNTS)
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Agh.
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I've lost me shed...
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..probably $1.5 million worth
of machines...
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..my house and all the sheds,
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Mum's house,
252
00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,680
all the sheds.
253
00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,920
The house has exploded.
254
00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,840
Yeah, somewhere in here
is their wedding rings.
255
00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,840
Yeah.
256
00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,360
You know, the thing
I'm really pissed off about
257
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,640
is that we lost
all the history of our family.
258
00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,640
Like, it's just...
259
00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,720
You got all the photos
260
00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,560
and all the stuff for the kids,
261
00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,360
and...nothing left, mate.
262
00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,200
Not a cracker.
263
00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,320
(EXHALES HEAVILY)
264
00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,760
Do you start up again or not?
265
00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,280
DO you start up again?
266
00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,560
That is a bloody good question.
267
00:16:10,265 --> 00:16:13,160
(KIDS CHATTER)
268
00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,840
(LAUGHTER, CHATTER)
269
00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,120
Fantastic, just so I can touch base
and see where they're at.
270
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,640
So, we've got a hub further down
271
00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,120
where we're collecting
272
00:17:04,120 --> 00:17:06,440
lots of non-perishable food items,
273
00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,920
and then we've got plenty of water
274
00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,440
to be able to hand out.
275
00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,000
Today is an exceptionally hot day,
276
00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,800
and, so, we've been handing out
ample amounts of water,
277
00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,720
and everyone's been loving it.
278
00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,760
In through the back room here,
279
00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,080
this is where
we have all of our tools.
280
00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,080
So, we've got a lot of hand tools,
electrical equipment
281
00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,520
and things to be able
to equip people with...
282
00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,760
..to be able to get back onto their
properties and start doing things.
283
00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,200
All through here
284
00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,120
we've got lots of bedding and
sleeping bags and things like that.
285
00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:40,840
So, we've had plenty of people
come in.
286
00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,880
At the moment we've got
dozens of locals out there
287
00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,400
in campervans, caravans,
people's sheds and things like that.
288
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,960
So, they're just living
with the bare necessities,
289
00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,360
and whatever we can equip them with
has just been fantastic.
290
00:17:56,360 --> 00:18:02,320
As a club, we purchased a washing
machine and a chest freezer.
291
00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,320
So, we're now calling this back room
the laundry.
292
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,640
We've got our chest freezer
full of bread and frozen meat
293
00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,960
to be able to send off
to the community as well.
294
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,640
We've got people coming in with Eskys
that we've provided them with
295
00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,160
and little butane burners
or barbecues
296
00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,960
where they can go home
and have a bit of a feed. It's good.
297
00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,200
A lot of our donations come in
298
00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,960
from a place
called Island Care in Kingscote,
299
00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,000
where they're receiving donations
statewide.
300
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,840
We've almost been
a little bit overwhelmed
301
00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,320
with all of these supplies,
302
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,920
but these will definitely
be sent out in care packages
303
00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,440
as we make visits out to residents.
304
00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,200
We'd been out on the front all day.
305
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,800
The day
the fire swept through Parndana
306
00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,640
was a really, really big day for us.
307
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,480
And to kind of go home
and see the devastation
308
00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,200
that the island was under
after that day
309
00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,600
and to see it first hand so severe,
310
00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,360
we just thought
we had to do something
311
00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:10,280
and support the community
as much as we could.
312
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:15,080
So, we put together the caravan
and made sure it was good to go,
313
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,800
and decided we could use that
as an office
314
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,320
to be able
to start collecting paperwork.
315
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,080
This is not an official
emergency hub,
316
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,560
it's just something
that the community has put together
317
00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,040
as a local initiative.
318
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,560
And the amount of people
we've helped...
319
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,000
Like, we're seeing a constant stream
of people throughout the day,
320
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,680
and then around dinnertime
we'll see people for a meal at night.
321
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,560
These people
aren't just coming in for a visit.
322
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,600
They're coming in
to pick up essential supplies.
323
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:51,320
I've seen people walk in that I know
have lost absolutely everything
324
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,000
and go, "Oh, no, no,
325
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,760
"I only need, like, a shovel
326
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,440
"and I'll stay for dinner
and I'll be right"...
327
00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:02,920
..head off, get a few jobs done
and then come back again.
328
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,880
And I think just knowing this is here
for them has been amazing.
329
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:12,520
But to see people come in so torn
and so proud
330
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,440
is really quite heart-wrenching
331
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,920
to know that they have to,
you know...
332
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,400
..reached that point themselves
to ask for help,
333
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,400
which is a really hard thing to do.
334
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,840
We've got a few guys
that have been staying here,
335
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,760
actually, at the emergency hub
336
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,720
who have lost everything
337
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,720
and have loaded up their own vehicles
338
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,600
to go out and visit their mates
339
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,680
and take them supplies,
340
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,800
take them a few bags of feed
and some food and clothes
341
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,160
and just check up on them
and see how they're doing.
342
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:57,680
So, I've got myself and my three boys
and my partner living in here.
343
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,280
And basic is basic.
You don't need much to live.
344
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,240
We are being supplied
with water, food,
345
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,680
and all we need to do is make sure
346
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,640
that all of our other friends
have got shelter, water and food,
347
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,440
and that's all I'm focused on.
348
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,120
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
349
00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:19,720
Yeah, I've done things
that I wouldn't normally do.
350
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,320
I've pushed myself further
than I normally would.
351
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,560
And coming here
was a place to feel safe, number one,
352
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,040
and have friends around.
353
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,960
And you read on the sheets
on the walls,
354
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,520
there's a lot of comfort
in community.
355
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,240
So, you need to talk to people,
356
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,360
especially
if you're not sleeping so well
357
00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:38,520
and you're waking up with night
sweats and terrors that wake you.
358
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,280
Yeah. All the guys I talked to
359
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,480
had about three...probably three
different nights
360
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,640
of just sheer hell on earth,
is what you've been through,
361
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,120
so, you recount it in your head
and you wake up to it.
362
00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:52,120
(KIDS CHATTER)
363
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,160
Yeah, that day just turned nasty.
364
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:46,480
And it was more about not fighting
the fire but looking after people.
365
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,440
People first
and then property, houses.
366
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,240
And...
367
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,240
Yeah, like I said, it's just
all a blur, running around and...
368
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,160
Like I said, we're a small crew
out here, so, that's...
369
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,520
We're all stretched.
(SIREN WAILS)
370
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,320
And then just work into the night,
371
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,120
a few hours' sleep
and get into it the next day.
372
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:12,680
We don't really leave the fire ground
until the job's done.
373
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,680
(INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER)
Are you up Stokes Bay area at all?
374
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,720
There you go.
375
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,040
But you hear that, and
all your friends live down there,
376
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,720
so, that's the bit about this fire
is we know everybody.
377
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,680
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
378
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,920
That's why I've been here every day
379
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,480
because these guys, they have to...
380
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,320
..when the flames pass their farm,
381
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,920
they have to go back and look
at fences, look at their livestock.
382
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,720
So, they're still doing this
and working the farm,
383
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,440
whereas I just live here,
so, I can come here,
384
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,920
I open up, cook breakfast...
385
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,640
..and I just have to worry
about how I'm paying my rent.
386
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,320
That's all I need to do.
387
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,040
(OVER RADIO) If you can't get out
with the front,
388
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,560
drop your side
and just leave your front open.
389
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,040
Just keep following us.
390
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,400
All good. Just keep following us.
391
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,960
But drop your curtains on the side
so only the driver in front is open.
392
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,800
Over.
You've got 200 metres to go. Over.
393
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,880
Some of these guys
have done up to 20 hours,
394
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,080
probably 19, 20 hours straight.
395
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,040
And if you're doing something
and it's being productive,
396
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,920
you don't just stop and go home.
397
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,480
Your adrenaline is running,
so, you can't sleep anyway.
398
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,600
So, even at the end of those shifts,
399
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,320
we'd sit down and have a beer
and talk about it.
400
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,120
And that's when...
401
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:55,520
You know, I live across the street
and I've slept on the floor here.
402
00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,000
You just collapse in a heap
and get up and go to work.
403
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,240
You might get two hours,
if you're lucky. Broken sleep.
404
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,680
And...
405
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:10,480
So, really, we've been doing this
for a month flat-out.
406
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,240
It's not until this is all over
407
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,200
you're going to go,
"Wow. Now what do we do?"
408
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,720
Because we're still in it.
409
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,800
My mate lives down here.
410
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,080
We just sat on the same track
411
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,240
protecting his house.
412
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,520
After we did a 17-hour day
and then...or a 19-hour day,
413
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,720
and then went to bed
at 4:00 in the morning,
414
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,400
got up at 6:00,
415
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,160
and did 17 hours.
416
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,520
And I was sitting in his toilet,
417
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,000
and I could see smoke coming out
of the walls and off the floor.
418
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,400
And I went out and I said,
"I need a day off."
419
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,040
That was a week and a half
into all of this.
420
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,800
Yeah.
421
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,600
Oh, when you ask...
422
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,320
.."How's it going?"
423
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,520
you know, fucking hell, it's a blur.
424
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,000
That's WHY it's a blur.
425
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,000
Because you're not
going to go to sleep
426
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,960
when your mate's house is under fire.
427
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,600
It was the sheer intensity of the
fire and the fact that it happened...
428
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,000
People couldn't be in front of it
trying to do something with it.
429
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,840
Like, normally, a fire comes through
430
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,800
and there'd be
a bunch of farmers there
431
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,360
with their small units and they'd
make sure sheep were out the road.
432
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,320
Generally we can pull fires up.
433
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,960
You know, if it had been daylight
and planes could have been flying,
434
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,160
houses wouldn't have been lost.
435
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,680
I've heard it said
that it was blowing 140 kays.
436
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,360
Now, I've been out
in some pretty strong winds,
437
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:33,000
obviously, living on Kangaroo Island.
438
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,320
And you might curse them and
lose your hat, but you can stand up.
439
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,200
That night I was struggling
to stand up in some of them.
440
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,400
Basically went from the south coast
to the north coast
441
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,960
in maybe two hours.
442
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,480
And if you're trying to save
anything in front of that,
443
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,760
then you're kidding yourself.
444
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,520
In hindsight,
there was nothing I could have done.
445
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,000
You know, the ute was the safest spot
in the corner until it caught alight.
446
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,960
(CHUCKLES SOFTLY)
447
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,600
Once a park catches fire,
it's very hard to stop,
448
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,880
especially
if you have high fuel loads,
449
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,200
like we have in this area here.
450
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,480
You've got weather events
with strong winds, high temperatures.
451
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,360
You can't really stop a fire
anymore.
452
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,040
The reality is,
453
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,800
if you look at the analysis
of fire and the landscape
454
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,280
and the climate that we currently
have and the climate predictions,
455
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,640
the experts are really
all quite clear about it.
456
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,760
You can't really prevent this
with prescribed burning,
457
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,920
with cutting bigger patches out.
458
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,360
It will not change it.
459
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,760
You cannot stop fires
with the climate that we have.
460
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,880
When you're not allowed
to burn strategically
461
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,440
like we used to burn out
our creek lines and roadsides
462
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,320
and this sort of thing...
463
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,440
Now we're not allowed to do that.
We get fined.
464
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,160
Can be quite large fines if you are
seen to be doing anything like that.
465
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,480
So, we have sort of
got our hands tied.
466
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,480
And then the people in power
467
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,000
to do the so-called
reduction of fuel loads,
468
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,960
they do not carry it out.
469
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,960
There's a classic of this
with the park.
470
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,040
Flinders Chase Park itself,
for the past 30 years,
471
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,840
that has not had a proper break,
earth break, like it used to have.
472
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,520
When does it come about
473
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,960
that they'll listen
to local knowledge
474
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,880
and go from there?
475
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,200
You know, we haven't been able
to take sensible management
476
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,680
for managing native vegetation
477
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,840
for the last 30, 40 years.
478
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,200
This place was last burned
in about 1952, I reckon.
479
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,600
So, we had huge build-ups around here
and everywhere else in between,
480
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,920
and it just steamrolled through that.
481
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,880
We've just got to do something
with the landscape.
482
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,920
We just can't have
forestry and native vegetation
483
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,440
linked one to another.
484
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,040
It's exactly the same as the Chase.
485
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,080
It had gone through
and totally wiped the Chase.
486
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,600
That can't happen either. You're
going to have to have that broken up.
487
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,600
I mean, we've just wiped out,
you know...
488
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,400
..goodness knows
how many wildlife in this.
489
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,360
And that's not conservation.
490
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,800
Not at all.
491
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,320
Always been against bushfires.
They are...
492
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,120
They're not a necessary thing
when they're out of control.
493
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,320
They're OK if they're working for you
but not against you.
494
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,000
I've raised my family here,
495
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:20,960
and the main gist of all of this
is fairness for the community people.
496
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:26,320
And there's so much wrong I see
in all of this
497
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,000
through not being done the right way.
498
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,880
Legislated whichever way you go.
Red tape.
499
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:37,760
It's Australia-wide, but we cop it on
Kangaroo Island at a regular basis,
500
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,800
and people get hurt.
501
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,160
We need to see change.
And everyone promises change.
502
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,440
And I'm not
supposed to talk about things
503
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,520
because we're supposed to move on.
504
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,600
But, if you can't learn
by your mistakes,
505
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,320
what is the point of all this anyway?
506
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,120
BEN DAVIS: It's only 13 years ago
that all the national park burnt.
507
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,240
And here we are again. You know?
508
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,960
But this time it burnt properly
509
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,160
and then it burnt everyone.
510
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,960
You know, this time round
they let a fire start,
511
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,320
and then it was a bad day.
512
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,480
There is a bit of 'us and them',
513
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,360
and not just between farmers,
514
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,760
but in general
between governments, farmers,
515
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,520
different departments
have different views.
516
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,600
At the end of the day,
this park has always been here.
517
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,760
And, if you look
over the last 150 years or so,
518
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,680
there's been a lot of land clearing
here on Kangaroo Island,
519
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,520
and more and more, especially
after the Second World War.
520
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,520
We have inserted ourselves
into a landscape
521
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,920
that naturally
has got native vegetation,
522
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,280
so, we can't then turn around
and say, "That is the problem."
523
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,080
That's always a challenge.
524
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,360
You know, who's at fault?
What's at fault?
525
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,600
Do we simply want to get rid
of all the native vegetation
526
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,960
to make it clear, make it safe?
527
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,760
I don't think that's the answer.
528
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,080
BEN DAVIS: Just more frustration
of the system,
529
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,600
that you keep making the same mistake
and just you don't learn from it.
530
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,480
I mean, there's a lot of people
around that are quite angry.
531
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,000
They've got not much left
and got out just alive.
532
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,560
Yeah, and I'm pretty angry, really,
533
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,680
that this is the sort of loss
we suffered.
534
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,160
It didn't have to happen.
535
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,560
With good management from a lot of
people, this didn't have to happen.
536
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,840
We didn't have to bury 2,500 sheep.
537
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,320
We didn't have to go now and rebuild
all our sheds, houses, fences.
538
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,160
We lost all the fences.
539
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,800
There's always a fire risk.
540
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,480
Always has been, always will be.
541
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,640
But it doesn't have to be as bad
as this.
542
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,240
What am I most angry about?
543
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,960
National Parks and Wildfire Service.
544
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,520
They don't do anything.
545
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,360
Right?
They sit there, they make all...
546
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,360
They get paid all year.
They do not do their burn-offs.
547
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,400
Right?
548
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,840
They've done
one hell of a burn-off now.
549
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,800
Parks need to be burnt.
550
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,360
I mean, you drive around now
and you look
551
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,800
and everything's regrowing.
552
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,840
That's what it does.
553
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,920
It burns
and everything's reshooting
554
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,680
because that's what this scrub...
that's how it lives.
555
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,160
But it needs to be burnt
556
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,960
at a time
when it's not going to be a monster
557
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,280
that just keeps
rolling across people's places.
558
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,760
Frustration is there quite a bit
amongst some people
559
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,160
and other people just get on with it.
560
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,560
They know it is so complex.
You can't blame anyone.
561
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,960
These things just happen
and there's no easy solution.
562
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,960
(WIND WHOOSHES)
563
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,800
That's right.
The fire could have been put out...
564
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,680
By two people.
..two people,
565
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,360
..out, right out west...
566
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,840
By bulldozer and a grader.
567
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,960
..and would've saved save two lives
and over half of Kangaroo Island.
568
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,280
Good mate of ours, like, Skinny,
569
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,920
he had his bulldozer sitting there
and he's watching it.
570
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,480
He watched the lightning strike.
571
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,960
He was sitting there and he could
have moved in and stopped it.
572
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120
The Parks wouldn't let him
go in there...
Couldn't go.
573
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,400
..'cause you can't damage
the park's, you know, vegetation.
574
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,560
So, he was sitting there
for eight hours.
575
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,640
And then they said,
"Oh, you can go in now."
576
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,360
It was too late.
And by then it was already too late.
577
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,600
When he first saw it, it would
have been the size of two utes.
578
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,200
He had to wait
for permission from National Parks.
We had to wait eight hours.
579
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,520
'Cause it was IN the park.
580
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,720
If it was on his own land he could
have just gone and done the scrub.
581
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,680
Could've been there in 15 minutes.
He could have driven in there
and pushed up around it,
582
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,880
pushed a break around it,
it would have all been done.
583
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,760
There was no dozer lines put in
until he had permission
584
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,760
'cause otherwise he'd get sued
by Parks.
585
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,600
So, we got to the fire
at about 11 o'clock
586
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,080
when he said, "Can you get out
and have a look at our farm?"
587
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,040
And no worries,
so, we've driven out there.
588
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,720
And there was our two units
and one other unit there
589
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:39,160
and then...
Private unit.
590
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,920
..yeah, private units.
591
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,200
And then a thing went out
over Facebook,
592
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:47,120
and there was about 30 farm units
there before a CFS truck got there.
593
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,920
Oh, it was out of control. There
was nothing we could do about it.
594
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,920
(WATER PATTERS)
595
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,680
(FIRE WHOOSHES)
596
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,920
(FIRE CRACKLES)
597
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,160
It was sighted earlier
598
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,640
by people out at my property
599
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,800
that my son and I have got
out in the West End,
600
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,800
only kilometres away
from where the impact was, and...
601
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,120
My daughter phoned me.
She was out there.
602
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:47,440
She phoned about 3:15, 3:20
on the morning of the 30th
603
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,720
and just said, "Dad, there's a fire
in the park close by."
604
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:54,200
We were crewed at the school,
605
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,960
and when the pagers first went off
at 4:30 in the morning,
606
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,360
we were told...
607
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,880
.."No, hang on,
just don't rush out yet
608
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,920
"because the lightning storm
is still coming through."
609
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,160
I flew out to the site,
610
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,640
coming into the scene
where the ignition point was.
611
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,320
Got the western end of the island
through there.
612
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,600
You've got your border road
that comes back up through here.
613
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,000
And you've got West End Highway
through here.
614
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,560
You've got Shackle Road.
615
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,440
We had a lightning strike in here.
616
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,120
So, that was the initial
impact there.
617
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,240
And then we had
the other, the second strike,
618
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:35,880
which was actually
the ravine strike out there.
619
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,360
Now one machine was right there
in the area.
620
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,560
Mine was on the low loader
here at the farm.
621
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,000
That's only 30 minutes away.
622
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,800
Some people said, "Oh,
you weren't responding straightaway."
623
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,640
It's not that we weren't
responding straightaway,
624
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,600
it's because we were waiting
for the band to come through
625
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,320
to ensure
that there wasn't other priorities
626
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,880
that were going to be greater
627
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,120
than going to a fire
that we couldn't access anyway.
628
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:18,640
Had we been able to go in there,
do a ring around this area,
629
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,760
which was done quickly
with two machines,
630
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,880
and then you do
a path back out again
631
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,160
so trucks can actually drive in
632
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,800
to do the containment afterwards.
633
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,520
But what had happened then,
634
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,760
we were left stranded with the idea
we weren't allowed in there.
635
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,520
So, once we've had the edge
636
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,360
put up through here
to stop the fire on the back,
637
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,080
we've come in through behind
638
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,040
with a loader from there
and a dozer from this side
639
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,560
and...to try and meet up.
640
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,880
This fire here took up
a lot of appliances,
641
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,720
bulldozers, graders,
642
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:05,960
all trying to contain what was
started off as a small, little fire.
643
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,960
And the main thing with all of this
644
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,200
was we spent several days
trying to contain this one
645
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,320
that I believe we could have put out
in a matter of hours,
646
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,000
and the other fire
was building the whole time.
647
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,480
Had that not been there,
648
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,160
then these resources
can be used for the main one.
649
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,480
I actually thought that the fire
on the eastern side of Shackle Road
650
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,240
was the fire
that was of the greatest priorities.
651
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:33,760
We could attack that one.
652
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,240
The fire on the western side
was 17 kilometres in.
653
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,480
You know, if we had have gone
in there with the dozers to there,
654
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,800
I don't think
that we would have made it
655
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,720
before it would have gone through
anyway.
656
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:52,200
I could have 95% guaranteed
putting that small fire out
657
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,320
had we been allowed in there
with bulldozers.
658
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,720
Look, we did the best
that we could on the day.
659
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:00,440
(PHONE LINE RINGS)
660
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,240
STAFFER: CFS Media. This is (BLEEP!)
661
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,320
DIRECTOR:
Hi, (BLEEP!) My name is Stephen.
662
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,240
Look, I'm just doing some research
663
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,200
into specifically the fires
on Kangaroo Island
664
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,280
just to get a top-level perspective
of, I guess, the entire effort.
665
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,480
What we heard was,
if I'm totally honest -
666
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,600
and that's why
I want to speak to you guys
667
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,360
because I want to get
the truth of the matter -
668
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,040
we heard a lot of anger
669
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,640
really around the fact
that they were told
670
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,360
that they couldn't put out the fire
when the lightning first struck.
671
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,760
So, we're really just looking
to corroborate that.
672
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,800
Yes.
Is that what you mean?
673
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,280
Yeah. Correct.
674
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,640
The Premier
has ordered an immediate review
675
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,880
into South Australia's
deadly bushfires.
676
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,440
We will immediately push ahead
with an inquiry and a review
677
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,560
into the bushfire preparedness.
678
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,000
Trust that the review
will be managed quite tightly,
679
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,520
but it's a great vehicle
680
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,520
by which to capture a whole lot
of disparate views and opinions.
681
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,800
Could've? Maybe. Should've? Maybe.
682
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,880
But people always say that
in fire situations,
683
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:09,320
and they need to be strong
in their evidence.
684
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,840
If that's correct, if they're
correct, and they may well be,
685
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,480
we need to know
686
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,600
because after 2007 fires
687
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,480
a lot of this came out
and nothing was done,
688
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,880
nothing was done by the government
at the time.
689
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,520
We need to get to the truth
of what really happened.
690
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,000
I think if you're going to have
a fire in the middle of summer,
691
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,560
it's not a good idea.
692
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,840
Not in 50,000 hectares of scrub.
693
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,120
So, if a fire is in there
694
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,520
and you've got the opportunity
to put it out,
695
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,160
you probably want to put it out.
696
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,880
There was never enough effort
put in initially
697
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,280
for the fire to be stopped
before it got going,
698
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,360
before it turned into this
and it WAS controllable.
699
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,800
So... And when it was...
it started off.
700
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,640
It's a lightning strike.
So, it's a small fire.
701
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,960
Early morning it rained.
702
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:03,360
(ROTORS WHIRR)
So, you know, it was...
703
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,760
You start bombing something then
and get it wet, it's controllable.
704
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,680
There was no need for this to happen.
705
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,120
We have to become more resilient
706
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,960
in terms of what sort of buildings
are we putting in the landscape?
707
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,880
What sort of fences?
708
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,000
How do we do prescribed burns?
709
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,440
How do we resource that well
that you get the best chance?
710
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,960
And surely do something
about climate change
711
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,800
so this doesn't get worse and worse.
712
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,160
Clearly,
the landscape has become drier,
713
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,040
so, this event
may not be the last one.
714
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,680
Touch wood.
715
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,320
And here we go with climate change.
716
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,440
Why don't we just call it the earth
does what it does in nature.
717
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,760
And climate
changed the jobs for the boys.
718
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,480
And, people, get off the bandwagon.
719
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,200
My own personal thoughts
720
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:01,480
is will climate change affect me
at being 45 years old?
721
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,440
And it may slightly.
722
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,800
Will it affect my kids?
723
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,320
Yes, it will.
724
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,920
Will it affect their kids?
725
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,440
Most definitely.
726
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,000
Did climate change cause this fire?
727
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,800
No. This was lightning.
728
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,240
This was lightning
in inaccessible country.
729
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:23,880
This was just the perfect storm
730
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,960
and the perfect opportunity,
the right conditions,
731
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,440
and it made a run.
732
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:33,040
If in event this happened again,
I would be prepared.
733
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,520
I've gone past 70,
734
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,920
so, I'll be prepared
to go straight in with a bulldozer
735
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,960
and I'll wear the consequences
afterwards.
736
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,040
I think it's a childish behaviour
on all parts
737
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,760
to say,
"You're not allowed in there."
738
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,200
We don't... We hardly make a mark.
739
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,840
We make a clean break, yes,
740
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,440
but we don't go in there
and devastate the country.
741
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,520
Turn around now and have a look
at what devastation looks like
742
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,520
through not
doing firebreaks properly.
743
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,160
And the farmers and everyone here
744
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,480
deserve a lot better
than what we get.
745
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,360
We euthanased
about another 12 today. Yep.
746
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,800
It doesn't. It's...
747
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,720
..a pretty hard...hard day
when you've got to go out
748
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:48,680
and shoot something that
you thought enough of to look after.
749
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,960
I don't think any farmers
would find that very easy.
750
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,920
(SHEEP BLEAT)
751
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,000
However, it's a fact of life.
752
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,200
You can't leave them suffering
if they're not going to make it.
753
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:07,720
And they've had three weeks now
to get over it,
754
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:09,680
and a lot of them have, of course,
755
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,800
and we've put a huge amount of time
into them and continue to do so.
756
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,120
The fire come through on the Friday,
right?
757
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,320
On the Saturday
we were cleaning up dead cows.
758
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,880
These poor bastards
didn't even have ears on them.
759
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,320
To lose all my animals as well,
that was the hardest bit,
760
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,280
to have to come back then
and try and deal with,
761
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,120
you know, the fact that you've lost
762
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,680
everything that I've spent
the last 10 years breeding up
763
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,680
and buying...you know,
buying good animals to breed
764
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,520
so you've got a good bloodline going
765
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,400
to then have nothing left.
766
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,440
It's... Yeah, that's probably
the hardest bit.
767
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,200
You know, I've got a sheep dog
and no sheep.
768
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,680
You know, I've got a house dog
and no house.
769
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,000
I fear that, you know, all that work
770
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,040
is going to be really hard to...
771
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:12,360
..to get back, you know,
to anything close to where I was.
772
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,120
You know?
773
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,240
So, I've got...
I mean, I've got my family.
774
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:20,200
Everyone says that. I mean,
that's the most important thing.
775
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,280
But it's still hard to, you know...
776
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,760
And I know it's hard for them
to come back and look at it.
777
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,440
And they always ask,
the kids are like,
778
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,280
"Are you staying out there again,
Dad?"
779
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,600
You know...
780
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,520
And that's probably the hardest thing
for me at the moment.
781
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,360
SHANE QUIRK: Seeing our mate's house
782
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,800
that have got a couple of small
kids that don't have a home anymore.
783
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,280
Adults can get over it.
They can get over their loss.
784
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:53,160
But small children with a room
full of toys is their world,
785
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,200
and that'll be the hardest thing
for them.
786
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,360
You know, you've got
to look after the young people.
787
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,600
Adults can bounce back.
788
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,000
Hey, look, mate, I am fucked.
789
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:36,480
Bullshit.
Yeah, well, I...
790
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,040
It's taken me over 20 years
to get to here.
791
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,840
I just don't understand.
792
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,160
What...
793
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,320
Fuck.
794
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,600
You know, like, I used to...
795
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,160
..turn over fucking...
796
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,680
..employ 14 people.
797
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,760
What do I do now?
798
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,200
The marks on the road
where two people died.
799
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,520
We drove past
when the cops were marking that out.
800
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:30,600
And that's just going to be
a memorial for those couple of lads.
801
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,720
I mean, that's the pinnacle,
isn't it? Lives are lost.
802
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,920
(WAVES CRASH)
803
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,520
We're more than lucky here.
804
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,440
More than... More than lucky.
805
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,120
We've got... You know, still got
the business. Still got the home.
806
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,840
Other people...
807
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,360
Mm.
808
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,080
I've thought a lot about it
last night. A lot.
809
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,040
Spent a lot of time
thinking about it, and it...
810
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,400
I'm...yeah, not...
811
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,640
Not fully comfortable.
812
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,400
Survivor's guilt
is such an apt word.
813
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,480
It's...
814
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,520
And it's... Almost everyone
on the island is affected by it,
815
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,800
and it goes as far as some people
even reluctant to say, you know,
816
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,760
that they had a good weekend
817
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,080
or that they enjoyed the movie
818
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,840
that they recently saw
on the mainland
819
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,800
or that they actually go and
support some of the local businesses
820
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,280
just immediately after the fire
821
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,680
and have a glass of wine
at the cellar door.
822
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,720
You know, our life is...
essentially, it's normal here,
823
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:38,080
whereas for so many people
it's not normal.
824
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,040
They don't have a home to go to.
825
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,600
Those people are hurting,
826
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,080
are really hurting.
827
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:50,480
From the pubs to the sporting clubs
to accommodation,
828
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,040
it's farmers, it's shearers.
829
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,800
Shearers...
830
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,120
..they're...
831
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,480
There's 100,000-plus sheep gone.
832
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:07,720
This fire has echoed through
every aspect of the community.
833
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:10,320
HEIRI KLEIN: I've also spoken
to one particular couple.
834
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,560
They run a farm and they lost
pretty much everything on the farm,
835
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,400
and they kept stressing that,
since they didn't lose their house,
836
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,120
they are so much better off
than all the others.
837
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,920
And I said, "No, don't kid yourself,"
838
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,960
you know, "it doesn't diminish what
you went through because it's huge."
839
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,960
MATTHEW JOHNSON:
We evacuated here on the Friday.
840
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,120
I went to the CFS station.
841
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:39,440
I've been on and off fire trucks,
farm units, food runs.
842
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,920
So, you never even contemplate
being open.
843
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,760
Even if we did have power
and we did have the ability to open.
844
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,120
Not when something like this
is going on.
845
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,160
You just...
846
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,680
..do what you do.
847
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,920
You help.
848
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,640
Help. It's all hands on deck.
849
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,160
How do we go forward?
850
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:06,040
How do we try and be as helpful
and as kind to each other as we can?
851
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,040
Because it's tough.
852
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,200
Not so much for me,
853
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,400
but for the people
that have lost everything.
854
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,320
Unfortunately, the truth that it
was...'disallow' was the word,
855
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,400
"I do not allow you
to put out that burning fire"...
856
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,920
So, we found a burning fire.
We were not allowed to put it out.
857
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,520
In hindsight,
858
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,120
I would have been happy to be the guy
in the plane that lost his job.
859
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,520
I would have been happy
to be the farmer in the bulldozer
860
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,040
that would have lost his job.
861
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,920
And we weren't allowed to extinguish
a fire that's killed two people.
862
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,160
So, yeah,
that's the kind of hurt and anger
863
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,000
that's flowing around at the moment.
864
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,120
SAM MUMFORD: It worries me that
people are talking class actions,
865
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,680
and all that's going to do
is divide a community.
866
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,440
The only way we'll get through this
is as a community.
867
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,760
I'm incredibly proud
of what's happened here.
868
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,520
These guys that work in the Parks
and these guys that work on KIPT
869
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,480
they have worked their absolute...
off on this fire
870
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,840
and, mate, they're part
of this community, right?
871
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,840
The rocks will be thrown, right?
872
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,640
There's going to be
a coronial inquest into this fire.
873
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,720
So, they shouldn't be thrown
from here.
874
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:22,760
Once it's all said and done, the
government will come back and say,
875
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,520
"Well, this is what happened
and this is why it happened."
876
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,520
We don't need to put division
in this community
877
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,360
when the whole community is hurting.
878
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,840
We need to get through this and
we need to get through this together.
879
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,240
You know, if it wasn't
for the community,
880
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:38,880
you know, outflowing and help,
881
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,160
I guess I'd be very angry and bitter.
882
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,800
But even the help of other people
883
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,800
doesn't overcome the fact
that, you know,
884
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,440
we're canned, and
we didn't really need to be canned.
885
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,960
That's probably the scariest thing.
886
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,160
That would be the scariest thing
looking forward,
887
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,640
would be its ability to create
divides within the community
888
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,440
and affect friendships and whatnot.
889
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,360
That would be the biggest concern.
890
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,120
I think this is a real opportunity
891
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:07,320
and a good test for leaders as well
892
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,680
to show what they can do,
893
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,520
whether they can be divisive
or bring people together.
894
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,640
It's easy to start shifting blame,
895
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,080
but at the end of the day, you have
to get out of this all together.
896
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,080
I think we can be a stronger place
after this
897
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,760
and things will bounce back.
898
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,200
Things will bounce back.
899
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,760
MATTHEW JOHNSON: Kangaroo Island
900
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:46,840
has one of the tightest communities
going.
901
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,120
People care.
902
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,320
People genuinely
care about each other,
903
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,680
whether there be, you know,
904
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:57,800
your neighbour next door
or Joe Bloggs 50 kay down the road
905
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,800
or the fellow
at the other end of the island
906
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,200
who you've played footy against
your whole life,
907
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,880
and, you know, you may not
be best mates on field,
908
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:06,520
when something like this happens
909
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,520
all that...that none of that counts.
910
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,480
SAM MUMFORD: I'm incredibly proud
to live where we live.
911
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,080
The thing that everyone says, like,
912
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,280
"Kangaroo Island
is a beautiful place to visit."
913
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,840
Mate, it's a better place to live.
914
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,880
Everybody cares for everyone.
915
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,280
And when something like this happens,
916
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,040
you realise, you know, just how lucky
we are to be where we are.
917
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,800
So...
918
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,200
And that's how
we're going to get through this.
919
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,840
The community is too...
920
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,280
..too strong to let...
921
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,760
..this beat it.
922
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,600
That's what keeps you going.
923
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,320
You know,
you know you've got support.
924
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,640
I don't know how would have gone
trying to do all this by myself.
925
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,320
Like, you can't even imagine
926
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:49,200
the amount of work that's
been done here by other people is...
927
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,080
Yeah. It's crazy.
928
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,080
I can't tell you how grateful I am.
929
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,600
I mean, within two days,
930
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,040
I had people out here
helping me with the livestock.
931
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,600
A week later, the army arrived
and tore all my fences down,
932
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,920
you know, helped me start rebuilding,
installed a toilet for me,
933
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,560
cut down trees that were a hazard.
934
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,480
Just amazing amount of work.
935
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,240
And they did that
in a day and a half.
936
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,720
It's months of work for me
937
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,800
what they managed to do
in a day and a half.
938
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,240
I've got a mate here,
he's still here,
939
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,800
he comes, you know,
940
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,880
given up his, you know,
jobs that he should be doing himself
941
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,920
just to come here to make sure
that, you know...
942
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,640
..that I can get more jobs done.
943
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,360
SHANE QUIRK:
We're living off the donations,
944
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,760
off the food
that people have donated.
945
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,800
So, I don't have to worry about
buying food. So, that's a godsend.
946
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,760
(LAUGHTER, CHATTER)
947
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,640
But, yeah, it's just living.
948
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,640
A lot of these people are proud
949
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,280
and they wouldn't accept donations
normally.
950
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,720
And I'm the same. I...
951
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,120
You know, I work, I work hard,
952
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,680
I don't really need donations, but...
953
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,520
It's not until you have a look
at what's gone that...
954
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,520
You know, if you've got a toothbrush,
someone will take it.
955
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,240
It's down to the bare essentials
956
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,640
that you can't say no anymore,
957
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,880
and you just start rebuilding.
958
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,960
So, people with no clothes except
for what they wore on that day.
959
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,400
So, yeah, you can't say no
to a donation.
960
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:29,560
Um...
961
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,720
Probably the...
962
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,360
(QUIETLY) Just cut it.
963
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,520
(SIGHS)
964
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,320
That's the difficult part - the help.
965
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,000
It's amazing.
966
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,400
(EXHALES HEAVILY)
967
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,360
Yeah, it's mind-blowing, really. Mm.
968
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,160
The army.
969
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,920
Blaze Aid.
970
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,200
Friends have lent us all the gear
this year.
971
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,280
You know, it just goes on and on.
972
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,520
(SIGHS) That's the toughest part
to deal with, actually.
973
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,480
Yeah, I guess
I don't like charity much.
974
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,760
That's the hardest part.
975
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,800
People are well-meaning, and I guess
I would have done it for others.
976
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,560
I had people ring and want my, you
know, bank balance account. And...
977
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,680
You know, I really can't handle that.
And...
978
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,200
But the community spirit is great.
979
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,240
Yeah.
980
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,200
We're all in this together.
981
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,200
And we'll dig through it
and keep going.
982
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,200
JADE VIVIENNE: This island,
virtually, runs on tourism,
983
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,760
so, it's crucial
to have people realise
984
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,040
that, yes, we've been burnt out,
985
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,080
but it's not going to stop us
from moving forward.
986
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,880
But I'm absolutely optimistic
it will bounce back,
987
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,720
everything will bounce back,
988
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:09,400
and it also shows how much support
there already is
989
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,240
from the mainland and from consumers,
990
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,000
from tourism campaigns.
991
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,360
MATTHEW JOHNSON: The ripple effect
from this will go for years
992
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:21,480
until an absolute minimum for
the tourism industry next summer...
993
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,080
..when hopefully we're back up,
994
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:29,520
as, you know,
South Australia's iconic island,
995
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,920
Kangaroo Island
and nature's paradise.
996
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,200
The Kangaroo Island
that people love is still here.
997
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,040
We've still got half of the island
untouched.
998
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,880
Come here. Enjoy it.
999
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,160
There's so many beaches
and cafes and wineries.
1000
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,640
The wild, rustic,
1001
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,840
you're-on-the edge-of-the-earth
feeling is still here.
1002
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,000
Experience the culture.
Experience the locals.
1003
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,360
Come and see us. You know, that's
the most important thing you can do.
1004
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,640
Kangaroo Island
really needs you to come.
1005
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,600
I travel ban will be placed
1006
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,280
on all non-residents,
non-Australian citizens,
1007
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,720
coming to Australia,
1008
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,840
and that will be in place
from 9:00PM tomorrow evening.
1009
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,560
There's panic and confusion
across the state tonight
1010
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,080
as South Australians
prepare to go into total lockdown.
1011
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,720
From midnight
we're being told to stay at home.
1012
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,560
So, this used to be the big shed.
1013
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:40,920
(LAUGHS)
1014
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,080
She all got ripped down.
1015
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,320
Cleaned up.
1016
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,880
Seeing
everything you've worked for...
1017
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,920
..get pulled down and crushed,
1018
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,840
just get...yeah.
1019
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,640
Like your whole life just destroyed.
1020
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,240
You know? Very depressing.
1021
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,000
Yeah.
1022
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,400
And then having to clean it up.
1023
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,720
(CHUCKLES)
1024
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:12,400
SHANE QUIRK: Yeah, as a tradie
I've just been flat-out working.
1025
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,800
So, yeah, it's normal.
1026
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,280
That's the normal.
1027
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,080
What amazed me -
how quick everybody just fired up
1028
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,880
when the farmers
had to do their fencing,
1029
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,640
and it's just kept rolling.
1030
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:30,200
Last 12 months
it's been pretty crazy, really.
1031
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,520
It just never ends, so...
1032
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,960
Yeah.
It helps you forget about it all.
1033
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,000
Everything's just so slow.
1034
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,120
They talk about recovery, but...
1035
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,680
My case manager,
1036
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,520
he's got about 10 people over here,
1037
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,360
and I know not one of them
have got their loan yet,
1038
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,680
14 months on.
1039
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,600
We're farmers.
We're not bloody accountants.
1040
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,880
You could start another bushfire
with the amount of paperwork.
1041
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,560
You know, we all pushed ourselves
that much that it was...
1042
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,400
And I look back on it and I think,
1043
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,800
"How hard can the human body
be pushed?"
1044
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,880
And I...
1045
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,560
You go to the brink, that's for sure.
1046
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,440
PETER LOCK: You know,
when you've been burnt out,
1047
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,480
you're right at the bottom
of the bottom...
1048
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,480
..so, you've got to...
1049
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,960
All you want to do is see stuff
going ahead to make you feel better
1050
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,480
so that you can actually
work towards it.
1051
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,040
Everyone's struggling.
1052
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,800
You're basically
fighting all this on your own.
1053
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,760
You've got your mates
you just talk it over with.
1054
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,840
And they were in the same boat.
1055
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,440
They were busting their arse
and getting nowhere.
1056
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,640
So...
1057
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,640
I don't know
what the secret is to it.
1058
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,320
SHANE QUIRK: You know,
I drive around the island
1059
01:07:55,320 --> 01:08:00,640
and I still go through what
we were talking about on the radio.
1060
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,920
So, it is a flashback. It's a...
1061
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,080
It's weird. It's...
1062
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,040
Yeah, it gets you. It's got me.
1063
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,840
But, you know,
1064
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,320
like I say to the crew...
1065
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,080
..it's the new normal.
1066
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,840
Of course
you're going to get stuff like that.
1067
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,400
Yeah, you might have a tear,
and you... Yeah.
1068
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,160
But if you watch the news...
1069
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,640
(CHUCKLES DRYLY)
1070
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,080
..it's not the worst thing
that's happened to anybody.
1071
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,560
PETER LOCK: Quite a few times
I've wondered
1072
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,680
whether it was worth going on.
1073
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,800
If it wasn't for all the mates around
here that got burnt out as well,
1074
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,440
like, you know...
1075
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:49,080
I think it's just that everyone else
has kept everyone together.
1076
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,760
Because it's been bloody hard yards.
1077
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,600
This will all be 500-tonne cool room,
this section here.
1078
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,600
Grading plant.
1079
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,520
I've got the footings down
for the shed,
1080
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:10,120
but I just need
to finish paying for the shed.
1081
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,440
There'll be a massive solar system
on the roof.
1082
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,280
Be a big workshop at the back,
1083
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:23,320
and the trucks will come through
and load undercover.
1084
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:25,560
So, yeah.
1085
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,560
If all the measurements are right,
it should work mickey mouse.
1086
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,280
Ah, there's always great challenges.
1087
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,480
It's great fun.
It's part of living the dream, mate.
1088
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,640
(BIRDS WARBLE)
1089
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,520
DAVE HALLORAN: Hopefully
now we've had some meeting
1090
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,120
with the Parks people from Adelaide,
1091
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:57,200
they asked me to come in to put
some opinions forward, which we did,
1092
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:03,600
and instead of doing controlled
burn-offs in October, November,
1093
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,920
I said that's way too late,
1094
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,920
and now the new bloke
we've got in there, he's really good,
1095
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,800
so, they're burning
this time of the year.
1096
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:15,520
And also interested in doing
the big chain breaks in there
1097
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,520
that we want to try and achieve.
1098
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,200
Let's hope something has sunk in.
1099
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,560
You know, I've been out
to Flinders Chase
1100
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:28,880
and it's just that big that you can't
carve it up in sections and...
1101
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,960
You follow a management plan
1102
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,680
and you can try,
but it's all about the response
1103
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,760
and do we learn the lessons?
1104
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:40,760
Do we...
1105
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,600
If it happens again,
how are we going to deal with it?
1106
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,240
I'm hoping for a decent victory soon.
1107
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,720
The spuds coming out of the ground
are good. That's a victory, I guess.
1108
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,840
That'll help pay
towards some of the stuff.
1109
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,440
Just got to take little steps
1110
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:59,360
and take a bite and chew like hell,
I think.
1111
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:01,880
Just keep fighting.
1112
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,880
The only thing I can think of doing.
1113
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,800
Hopefully I'll be back on my feet
within three or four years.
1114
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,880
Hopefully.
1115
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,680
If all the stars line up.
1116
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,440
(LAUGHS)
1117
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,320
So, yeah.
1118
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,040
Fucked if I know.
1119
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:26,920
We'll get there.
1120
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:45,640
NEWSREADER: The scathing report
1121
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:49,720
found the fire service
prioritised National Park buildings
1122
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,200
over homes.
1123
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:00,000
They found
that there were systemic failings
1124
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,800
in the way the CFS managed
the KI fires last fire season,
1125
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,200
failings in communication
1126
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,160
and also
bushfire-fighting procedures.
1127
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,840
It also found there was
a disproportionate focus
1128
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,760
on trying to save
a National Park visitor centre
1129
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,280
instead of focusing
on saving homes on the island,
1130
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,200
many of which were lost.
1131
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,840
There were nowhere near enough
resources on the ground
1132
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,520
to fight this unpredictable blaze,
according to the report,
1133
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,040
nor was there adequate technology,
1134
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,640
which meant that CFS crews
were actually getting lost
1135
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,480
while fighting the blaze.
1136
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,520
The CFS has been accused of trying
to cover up this report
1137
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,880
because it was finalised last October
1138
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,400
and it has just been released now.
1139
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,720
The CFS said that they wanted
to make sure they briefed
1140
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,440
all of the volunteers involved
1141
01:13:24,440 --> 01:13:26,880
before speaking publicly about this.
1142
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,560
It has now been released publicly.
1143
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,920
And indeed there were
11 recommendations for changes
1144
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,200
made in the report,
1145
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,200
all of which have been accepted
by the CFS.
99010
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