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Today is Thursday, August 6th, 2015.
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I'm about to do an interview
on Sarah Corbett.
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Well, Sarah, did you know
why you're here today?
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Yes.
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Tell me why you're here today.
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Because my dad died.
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Okay.
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{\an8}Just have a seat for me.
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And, Jack, my name is Brandy,
and it's my job to talk to you today.
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You said your dad died.
What's your dad's name?
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Jason Paul Corbett. C-O-R-B-E-T-T.
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What is your mom's name?
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Molly Martens.
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And what is your grandpa's name?
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His name is Tom Martens.
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Okay. And what do you call him?
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I call him Grandpa Tom.
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Grandpa Tom. Okay.
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Davidson County 911.
What is the address of your emergency?
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My name is Tom Martens.
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I'm at Panther Creek Court,
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and... we need help.
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Okay, what's going on there?
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My... My daughter's husband,
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um, my son-in-law,
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uh, got in a fight with my daughter.
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I intervened, and I...
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I hit him in the head.
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- With what?
- With a baseball bat.
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- With a baseball bat?
- Yes, ma'am.
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Help!
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- Is he conscious at all?
- No.
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Is he breathing?
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I can't tell.
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I'm dead asleep in bed
when the phone rings.
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{\an8}As a detective, you know when that phone
rings at three o'clock in the morning,
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{\an8}it's never good.
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So, I'm out of the bed,
and I'm out the door,
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and I am headed to Meadowlands
in North Carolina.
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I go into the house,
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and I look inside the master bedroom,
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and it's pretty horrific.
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It's one of the bloodiest crime scenes
I've seen in a long time.
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The female resident tells me
that her name is Molly Corbett...
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...and that the victim
is her husband, Jason Corbett.
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These offices are really cold.
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- Thanks.
- You're welcome.
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All right. Tell me what happened tonight.
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We were fighting.
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- Who was fighting?
- My husband.
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My daughter had a nightmare.
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She or I woke him up, so he was angry.
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He choked me.
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How did he choke you?
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First, with his hand
pressed really hard right here.
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He let go for a second,
and I screamed really loud.
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I can't remember next
until my dad came in.
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Okay.
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I heard arguing and thumping going on
on the floor above me.
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And it-- it sounded bad.
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I grabbed the bat, and I ran upstairs.
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So, I open the bedroom door,
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and he's got Molly
by the throat like this.
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And he sees me coming,
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and he goes around the throat like this.
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And I said, "Let her go."
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"I'm gonna kill her."
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- "Let her go."
- "I'm gonna kill her."
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And he started to drag her
towards the bedroom,
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into the, uh, bathroom.
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And I hit him.
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I hit him with the baseball bat.
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And he reaches out, and he grabs the bat.
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Jason got the baseball bat.
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And... he tried to hit my dad.
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I think he might have missed, and...
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I...
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Um...
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I hit him on the head.
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You hit him on the head with what?
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With... With a brick on my nightstand.
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Okay.
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I'm not sure.
I hit him on the head or the shoulder.
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How many times did you hit Jason?
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I don't know.
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Okay. You don't remember?
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I don't know.
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I can't tell you how many times I hit him.
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I can't tell you
how many times he shoved me.
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I can't tell you. I...
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'Cause it was a battle.
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These two people are telling us
they just were in a fight for their life.
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Her husband has horrific injuries.
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And they don't appear to have any.
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In North Carolina,
they have a right to defend themselves.
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But are they the victims,
or is he the victim?
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You know your husband
didn't survive his injuries, right?
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I didn't... I didn't think so.
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No, he didn't survive his injuries.
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How long have you been together?
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Probably seven years.
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My children
aren't biologically my children.
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They're his first wife's children,
and she died.
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Is there anybody that you need for us
to contact from your husband's family?
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Oh God.
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What if I'm scared of his family?
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I'm scared they'll try to take the kids.
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Um...
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- You guys are legally married?
- Yes.
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- Did you adopt the children?
- No.
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Okay, then that's a real possibility.
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Oh!
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Oh!
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My brother got a call
to say that Jason was dead.
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{\an8}He and Molly had an argument.
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{\an8}She pushed him,
he fell, hit his head, and died.
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So I immediately started to call Molly,
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um, and I got no answer at that time.
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I can't comprehend. I can't process.
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You know, I just couldn't believe it.
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Jason and I, we were super close.
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We had a really big family.
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We grew up in Janesboro in Limerick.
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And Jason and Wayne and myself
are the three youngest.
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Jason remained a constant best friend.
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When I had learned the news,
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my first thought
was to the welfare of Jack and Sarah.
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And so, within hours,
I'm packed and on the road
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to fly to America in order to find out
what happened to Jason
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and to make sure Jack and Sarah are safe.
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{\an8}We just knew that we needed to get
to North Carolina as quickly as possible.
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Myself and Tracey were named
as guardians in Jason's will.
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I went straight
to Jason's solicitor's office.
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I collected the will and flew out
to America a couple of hours later.
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We start coordinating
with the district attorney's office
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about where the investigation
needs to go from here.
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What immediately strikes me
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{\an8}is that this is going to be a case
outside the normal of what we deal with.
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I'm a retired FBI agent.
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What did you do with the FBI?
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First half of my career was Criminal.
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Second half of my career
was Counterintelligence.
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Tom Martens is a retired FBI agent,
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and he has been schooled in
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and has schooled other officers
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on the art of interrogation.
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We would be remiss in our duties
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if we ever just accepted,
wholesale and without examination,
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what any person
who's killed somebody has to say.
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Perhaps it would be helpful
if I just kinda launched into the story.
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Okay.
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'Cause it will contribute
to my state of mind.
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Okay.
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I see Tom attempting
to control the narrative
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and present things
the way he wants to present them.
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Tom never admits
that he saw Molly hit Jason at all.
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At any point,
did Molly join in on the volley?
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When I lost control of the bat
and she wiggled out,
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she somehow distracted him,
but I don't know.
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I'm scrambling. I don't know.
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We find that hard to believe.
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The night of the incident,
I'm at the house,
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I learned that Molly's mother
was in the basement.
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So, we get a statement from her.
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Sharon Martens tells us
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{\an8}that they got awakened
in the middle of the night to a ruckus,
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{\an8}and she hears her daughter scream.
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Her husband gets out of bed,
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goes upstairs
to take care of whatever the ruckus is,
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and she rolls over and goes back to sleep.
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I'm... dumbfounded.
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Like, what grandmother does that?
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What mother does that?
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Sharon Martens is telling us
she never responded in any way
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to this horrible, violent, explosive event
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that was happening right upstairs
in a house full of people that she loved.
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It just doesn't quite add up.
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We are also looking at the 911 call.
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...three, four.
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- One, two, three, four. Good.
- One, two, three, four.
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One, two, three, four. One...
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EMS workers are listening
to this recording and saying,
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"I don't think
those people are doing CPR."
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It's too hard.
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You can't count out loud like that
with that precision, that rhythm.
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One... I'll count. I'll count.
One, two, three, four.
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EMS personnel also describe
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that Jason's body was cool to the touch,
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and one of them even looked
at another and said,
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"When did they say he went down?"
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This is not scientific evidence,
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and there are sufficient variables
in how quickly a body cools,
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but it was compelling information for us.
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Now there's a possibility
the Martens were thinking,
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"I've got to sit down
and get my story straight
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before I call the cops."
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We found out
that within hours of Jason's death,
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Molly and Thomas Martens returned home,
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and at this point,
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the children are in the care and control
of Molly Martens and her family.
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Within 48 hours,
the Martens had filed for guardianship,
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adoption, and custody of Jack and Sarah.
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I asked to speak to them,
you know, on the phone,
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to have a supervised visit, uh, anything.
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I just wanted to put my arms around them.
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They had lost their father.
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And Molly would not allow it.
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There's all these things happening,
all at once, all colliding,
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and I want to see my brother.
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We spoke to the funeral director,
trying to get to see Jason,
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and he apologized profusely,
but he had been given clear instructions
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that we were not allowed to view Jason.
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I believe that Molly's trying
to cremate Jason's body
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before I got there.
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I thought to myself, "What have you done?"
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Then we get the results from the autopsy.
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And the autopsy findings...
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are horrific.
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Jason has abrasions on his forehead,
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under his eye,
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his shoulder blades,
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and then... we get to his head.
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And in... 30 years of prosecuting...
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I've never seen photographs like these.
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He had...
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so many blows to his head
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that the pathologist couldn't count them
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because they overlapped,
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and a chunk of Jason's skull
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fell out onto the table.
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It takes an incredible amount of force
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to cause that kind of injury.
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It's taken me four days
of legal action to see Jason's body.
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It's horrendous to see
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what one human being
can inflict on another.
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His children lay in a bedroom
just feet away from him,
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and I know his last thoughts
would have been with them.
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I hold his hand, and I promise him
that his children would be okay,
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and I promise that I would get justice
for what happened to him.
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Jack and Sarah were in the home,
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in bed asleep,
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when this event occurred.
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We need to have them interviewed
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by people that are trained
to interview small children.
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So, they're taken
to the Dragonfly Child Advocacy Center.
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Let's just start with the very first thing
you told me, that your dad died.
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How did your dad die?
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Well, my sister had a nightmare
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about insects crawling.
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She had fairy blankets
and insects all over her bed.
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My dad got very mad,
254
00:15:41,315 --> 00:15:45,235
and he was screaming at my mom,
and Mom let out a scream,
255
00:15:46,028 --> 00:15:48,613
and my grandpa came up
and started to hit him with a bat.
256
00:15:48,614 --> 00:15:53,326
And then my dad grabbed a hold of the bat,
and hit my grandpa with the bat.
257
00:15:53,327 --> 00:15:57,080
And so my mom... put her... like...
258
00:15:57,081 --> 00:16:00,833
We were going to paint a brick
that was in there, like, a cinder block,
259
00:16:00,834 --> 00:16:04,046
and it hit his temple right here,
260
00:16:04,588 --> 00:16:05,421
and he died.
261
00:16:05,422 --> 00:16:06,339
Okay.
262
00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:09,467
Now, your sister had a nightmare.
How did you know that?
263
00:16:09,468 --> 00:16:11,094
My pare... My mom told me.
264
00:16:11,095 --> 00:16:12,012
Okay.
265
00:16:12,763 --> 00:16:15,682
Did your mom and dad fight before this?
266
00:16:15,683 --> 00:16:20,269
He gets very angry at my mom
for leaving one light on.
267
00:16:20,270 --> 00:16:24,065
- What would he do?
- He would... he would scream at her.
268
00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:26,442
Okay. Did you ever see him hit her?
269
00:16:26,443 --> 00:16:27,736
Um...
270
00:16:28,445 --> 00:16:29,321
Once.
271
00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:33,033
He just got very mad about simple things.
272
00:16:35,786 --> 00:16:38,329
- And who would he get mad at?
- My mom.
273
00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:40,748
- Did you see him get mad at her?
- Yes.
274
00:16:40,749 --> 00:16:43,335
And when he would get mad,
what would he do?
275
00:16:44,503 --> 00:16:48,297
He would physically and verbally hurt my...
physically and verbally hurt my mom.
276
00:16:48,298 --> 00:16:50,258
Did you see him physically hurt her?
277
00:16:50,259 --> 00:16:51,676
Um, once or twice.
278
00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:53,136
What did you see?
279
00:16:53,137 --> 00:16:57,266
Um, punching, hitting, pushing.
280
00:16:58,559 --> 00:17:02,103
The children do both
make some statements about Jason.
281
00:17:02,104 --> 00:17:04,148
We have to pay close attention to that.
282
00:17:04,690 --> 00:17:06,941
But they also use a lot of words
283
00:17:06,942 --> 00:17:10,404
that eight-year-olds and ten-year-olds
don't generally use.
284
00:17:10,988 --> 00:17:14,699
He would physically and verbally hurt my...
physically and verbally hurt my mom.
285
00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,326
That's unusual and stands out.
286
00:17:18,162 --> 00:17:20,372
And... And how do you know
she's afraid of him?
287
00:17:21,081 --> 00:17:22,206
She told us.
288
00:17:22,207 --> 00:17:24,751
No. My mom told me about that.
289
00:17:24,752 --> 00:17:26,503
And who told you about that?
290
00:17:27,046 --> 00:17:28,588
Uh, my mom.
291
00:17:28,589 --> 00:17:30,298
My mom told me.
292
00:17:30,299 --> 00:17:31,340
She told me.
293
00:17:31,341 --> 00:17:32,592
Your mom told you.
294
00:17:32,593 --> 00:17:35,845
There's a possibility
the kids may have been coached.
295
00:17:35,846 --> 00:17:39,599
There's a lot of, "This is
what my mom told me about that night
296
00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,811
and about things
that had happened in the past."
297
00:17:43,312 --> 00:17:44,729
My mom told me,
298
00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:48,442
not when I was four, not when I was five,
but she told me when I was six,
299
00:17:49,193 --> 00:17:51,528
"Your dad is not that good of a dad."
300
00:17:52,362 --> 00:17:54,323
Why is she saying that to Sarah?
301
00:17:55,532 --> 00:17:58,077
What is the truth and what's not?
302
00:17:59,703 --> 00:18:02,289
We went back
to Molly and Tom's interviews.
303
00:18:04,333 --> 00:18:06,167
I know he's got me outmatched.
304
00:18:06,168 --> 00:18:07,877
I know he's a martial arts guy.
305
00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:09,504
I know he's a boxer.
306
00:18:09,505 --> 00:18:13,132
I am trying to stay
a bat's length away from this guy.
307
00:18:13,133 --> 00:18:14,133
Right.
308
00:18:14,134 --> 00:18:16,220
I'm scared to death.
309
00:18:17,096 --> 00:18:20,640
We're trying to verify
any training that Jason may have had
310
00:18:20,641 --> 00:18:23,351
in karate or martial arts,
311
00:18:23,352 --> 00:18:25,354
any boxing training that he may have had.
312
00:18:28,148 --> 00:18:30,650
Within one week of Jason being killed,
313
00:18:30,651 --> 00:18:35,321
{\an8}I am contacted by
the Davidson County Sheriff's Department
314
00:18:35,322 --> 00:18:39,076
{\an8}asking questions like,
"Was Jason an MMA fighter?"
315
00:18:40,577 --> 00:18:42,162
"Was he a professional boxer?"
316
00:18:43,163 --> 00:18:46,667
"Was our family
in the Irish Republican Army?"
317
00:18:47,793 --> 00:18:49,920
But, of course,
these things are ridiculous.
318
00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:55,717
They were just doing everything they could
to destroy his character.
319
00:18:57,136 --> 00:19:00,722
I want the world to know
the truth about Jason.
320
00:19:03,976 --> 00:19:07,019
He was the most kind-hearted
person you could meet.
321
00:19:07,020 --> 00:19:08,939
You'd never not see the man smiling.
322
00:19:09,648 --> 00:19:10,648
{\an8}Everybody loved him.
323
00:19:10,649 --> 00:19:13,485
{\an8}Everybody loved Jason. He was just...
He was everybody's friend.
324
00:19:17,489 --> 00:19:21,075
He was very charismatic,
and he had a loud voice as well.
325
00:19:21,076 --> 00:19:22,953
You knew when Jason was around.
326
00:19:23,745 --> 00:19:25,581
Family meant everything to him.
327
00:19:26,081 --> 00:19:28,708
I never thought
he was a romantic growing up,
328
00:19:28,709 --> 00:19:31,503
um, until he met his first wife, Mags.
329
00:19:33,255 --> 00:19:37,342
We were out socializing one night,
and I introduced Mags to Jason.
330
00:19:37,843 --> 00:19:41,679
{\an8}And from the start,
they were just meant for each other.
331
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,556
{\an8}They were very, very happy.
332
00:19:43,557 --> 00:19:45,434
I, Margaret, take you, Jason,
333
00:19:45,934 --> 00:19:47,518
as my husband,
334
00:19:47,519 --> 00:19:50,397
for better, for worse,
for richer, for poorer,
335
00:19:51,315 --> 00:19:54,443
in sickness and in health,
all the days of our lives.
336
00:19:56,361 --> 00:19:57,653
They'd built their house.
337
00:19:57,654 --> 00:20:00,698
Mags had opened a new crèche,
and Jason had got promoted in work,
338
00:20:00,699 --> 00:20:02,116
so life couldn't have been better.
339
00:20:02,117 --> 00:20:03,368
It was like a fairy tale.
340
00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:06,454
And Jason's kids were everything to him.
341
00:20:06,455 --> 00:20:09,373
When they were born,
he was just the happiest he's ever been.
342
00:20:09,374 --> 00:20:12,084
That's it. Good boy. I love Sarah.
343
00:20:12,085 --> 00:20:14,670
- Aw! You're the best boy, Jack.
- Who's that, Jack?
344
00:20:14,671 --> 00:20:17,299
Jack, do you know what...
do you know what Sarah told me?
345
00:20:17,841 --> 00:20:22,094
She said she's getting Jack
a tractor and a trailer as a present
346
00:20:22,095 --> 00:20:23,304
because you're her brother.
347
00:20:23,305 --> 00:20:25,057
'Cause she loves Jack.
348
00:20:26,058 --> 00:20:28,852
Get off my chair. Get off my chair.
349
00:20:29,937 --> 00:20:32,773
This was the beginning of his whole life.
350
00:20:33,357 --> 00:20:34,566
{\an8}What you doin'?
351
00:20:35,108 --> 00:20:36,151
You dancin'?
352
00:20:39,821 --> 00:20:42,866
All that changed drastically
when I got a phone call
353
00:20:43,825 --> 00:20:47,996
at home one night, telling me
that Mags had had an asthma attack.
354
00:20:50,832 --> 00:20:53,585
Myself and my husband
managed to get to the hospital.
355
00:20:54,711 --> 00:20:57,506
And Jason was with Mags,
and we could hear him...
356
00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:03,053
He just begged her not to go
357
00:21:04,388 --> 00:21:05,514
and leave him.
358
00:21:07,057 --> 00:21:11,270
Jason, in that moment, was just...
359
00:21:12,104 --> 00:21:13,563
broken into pieces.
360
00:21:16,733 --> 00:21:20,904
He would write letters to Mags
and then leave them at the grave site.
361
00:21:25,617 --> 00:21:27,410
{\an8}All of our family rallied around,
362
00:21:27,411 --> 00:21:30,913
{\an8}but obviously,
he had very little space to grieve.
363
00:21:30,914 --> 00:21:33,833
{\an8}He was a single parent of two babies,
364
00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:36,086
{\an8}and he had to go to work every day.
365
00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,427
So, he advertised for an au pair,
366
00:21:43,927 --> 00:21:48,432
and that's when Molly Martens
came into our lives.
367
00:21:55,105 --> 00:21:59,859
I was in my early 20s, and I'd been
in a relationship for several months
368
00:21:59,860 --> 00:22:03,696
{\an8}and, um, unexpectedly got pregnant,
369
00:22:03,697 --> 00:22:05,532
{\an8}and, um...
370
00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:09,452
shortly thereafter,
suffered a miscarriage.
371
00:22:09,453 --> 00:22:12,872
And I think anybody
who's suffered a miscarriage
372
00:22:12,873 --> 00:22:16,625
can understand that
that is devastating at the time.
373
00:22:16,626 --> 00:22:18,545
I, um...
374
00:22:19,379 --> 00:22:21,297
was in that relationship with someone,
375
00:22:21,298 --> 00:22:25,301
and I realized I didn't want
to spend my life with that someone,
376
00:22:25,302 --> 00:22:28,471
and I felt like
that might be easier if I got away
377
00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:30,222
and enjoy the world.
378
00:22:30,223 --> 00:22:33,309
And for me, working with children
was a natural choice.
379
00:22:33,310 --> 00:22:36,687
And so, I joined an au pair agency.
380
00:22:36,688 --> 00:22:40,274
And when Jason reached out to me,
381
00:22:40,275 --> 00:22:44,445
he indicated on his profile
that he had lost his wife.
382
00:22:44,446 --> 00:22:46,697
I guess that just pulled
on my heartstrings.
383
00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:48,532
There were these two babies
384
00:22:48,533 --> 00:22:50,409
{\an8}without a mother,
385
00:22:50,410 --> 00:22:53,830
{\an8}and maybe I had an ache to fill that need.
386
00:22:55,082 --> 00:22:58,293
{\an8}It was only natural
that she would develop a talent
387
00:22:58,877 --> 00:23:01,754
{\an8}for taking care of young children,
388
00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:04,758
in that her two younger brothers
389
00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:09,804
came along as she was nearing the age
where she could help her mother.
390
00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:12,891
She was very good at engaging them.
391
00:23:14,017 --> 00:23:18,647
I arrived in Ireland
on, um, a traditional rainy day.
392
00:23:19,147 --> 00:23:23,110
And I met Jason, and he put me at ease.
393
00:23:24,361 --> 00:23:26,238
He was charming, funny.
394
00:23:26,947 --> 00:23:28,657
He made me feel very special.
395
00:23:30,450 --> 00:23:33,786
Molly hadn't been in the country too long
396
00:23:33,787 --> 00:23:35,871
when I began to pick up on things,
397
00:23:35,872 --> 00:23:39,834
just little signals
between Jason and Molly.
398
00:23:39,835 --> 00:23:42,336
We were walking on the beach,
and they were dropping behind us,
399
00:23:42,337 --> 00:23:44,130
and I think Tracey mentioned to me
400
00:23:44,131 --> 00:23:46,757
that, you know, she thought
there was more to the relationship
401
00:23:46,758 --> 00:23:48,343
than employer-employee.
402
00:23:48,885 --> 00:23:54,682
I felt like I was bringing joy
into Jack, Sarah, and Jason's life.
403
00:23:54,683 --> 00:23:56,685
Okay, go get your sandal.
404
00:23:57,769 --> 00:23:59,770
You gotta put them on over your tight...
405
00:23:59,771 --> 00:24:00,688
Hello.
406
00:24:00,689 --> 00:24:03,399
...'cause it's the warmest day
in Ireland and you still need tights.
407
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,234
Sarah, how old are you?
408
00:24:05,235 --> 00:24:06,318
Two.
409
00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:08,446
- Two and a half.
- Yeah.
410
00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:09,697
How old are you?
411
00:24:09,698 --> 00:24:10,781
Four and a half.
412
00:24:10,782 --> 00:24:13,409
- Are you sure you're not one and a half?
- No.
413
00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:14,578
Are you sure?
414
00:24:15,203 --> 00:24:17,831
But that noise you make,
sometimes it kinda sounds like this...
415
00:24:19,249 --> 00:24:21,376
That's kinda like
a one-and-a-half-year-old.
416
00:24:22,335 --> 00:24:26,798
And it was in the very early days
that Sarah started calling me "Mom."
417
00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:32,011
I was really becoming
a mother to those kids
418
00:24:32,012 --> 00:24:34,973
before I became a mother to those kids.
419
00:24:36,016 --> 00:24:37,684
It was just wonderful.
420
00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:41,812
Molly made Jason smile,
421
00:24:41,813 --> 00:24:43,982
and he hadn't in a very long time.
422
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,279
But it was clear
from emails from Jason to Molly
423
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:55,035
that Jason wanted to slow the pace
of their relationship down.
424
00:24:56,745 --> 00:24:59,121
"My concern is for Jack and Sarah."
425
00:24:59,122 --> 00:25:01,832
"They have had enough
tragedy in their short lives,
426
00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:04,418
and while I know that they are resilient,
427
00:25:04,419 --> 00:25:07,505
I'm nervous about putting them
through anything further."
428
00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:09,507
"I'm really scared, Molly."
429
00:25:09,508 --> 00:25:10,925
"I don't want to lose you,
430
00:25:10,926 --> 00:25:13,969
but more so,
I don't want to risk Jack and Sarah
431
00:25:13,970 --> 00:25:16,598
losing another mother
if we don't work out."
432
00:25:18,141 --> 00:25:21,769
But Molly always wanted
the relationship validated.
433
00:25:21,770 --> 00:25:24,564
And she's pushing, pushing, pushing.
434
00:25:32,739 --> 00:25:37,368
Eventually, Jason began
to talk about the opportunity
435
00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:39,954
to begin a new life for Jack and Sarah,
436
00:25:39,955 --> 00:25:43,207
to allow them to have
a stable family environment
437
00:25:43,208 --> 00:25:45,502
with a mother and father.
438
00:25:47,462 --> 00:25:50,798
I was on a regular night out
with my friends.
439
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,385
Jason walked in first,
and Molly walked in behind,
440
00:25:53,969 --> 00:25:56,178
showing the ring on her finger.
441
00:25:56,179 --> 00:25:59,723
And I said, "I am delighted.
I want you to be happy."
442
00:25:59,724 --> 00:26:01,476
"Mags wouldn't want you to be miserable."
443
00:26:03,061 --> 00:26:06,021
Ultimately, we decided
to move to the United States.
444
00:26:06,022 --> 00:26:09,275
Mostly, it was the lifestyle,
445
00:26:09,276 --> 00:26:13,655
and in particular, the lifestyle
in regard to raising children.
446
00:26:17,242 --> 00:26:19,953
{\an8}I was excited
about a new beginning for our family.
447
00:26:30,005 --> 00:26:33,258
My first time seeing the house,
I thought it was like a mansion.
448
00:26:36,303 --> 00:26:37,469
It was so cool.
449
00:26:37,470 --> 00:26:39,555
Everything was much bigger than Ireland,
450
00:26:39,556 --> 00:26:40,765
which I loved.
451
00:26:42,058 --> 00:26:43,934
I remember when I first went in,
452
00:26:43,935 --> 00:26:46,645
I went into my room
and started running around in circles.
453
00:26:46,646 --> 00:26:48,564
And I loved how big the garden was,
454
00:26:48,565 --> 00:26:51,526
'cause my dad told me
we could get a trampoline and a dog.
455
00:26:53,069 --> 00:26:54,069
It was just really happy.
456
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:56,155
Everyone was excited
for this new adventure.
457
00:26:56,156 --> 00:26:57,991
We just moved to America.
458
00:27:02,412 --> 00:27:04,622
{\an8}I feel like we fit in straightaway
459
00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:07,709
when we moved over
to Meadowlands in North Carolina.
460
00:27:08,209 --> 00:27:10,961
We got straight into activities
like swimming,
461
00:27:10,962 --> 00:27:12,546
joining teams.
462
00:27:12,547 --> 00:27:15,008
Everyone there was so nice, so friendly.
463
00:27:16,259 --> 00:27:18,720
It was a great community to be part of.
464
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,351
After Molly, Jason, Jack,
and Sarah moved to North Carolina,
465
00:27:25,352 --> 00:27:28,270
within a couple of weeks,
there was going to be a wedding
466
00:27:28,271 --> 00:27:32,232
and just a joyous occasion
that we were looking forward to.
467
00:27:32,233 --> 00:27:36,154
We just wanted Jason to be happy,
and we traveled to support him.
468
00:27:37,697 --> 00:27:39,449
When we arrived, everyone was excited.
469
00:27:42,327 --> 00:27:44,829
Jason and Molly had loads planned for us.
470
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:46,581
We went to NASCAR,
471
00:27:48,041 --> 00:27:49,291
barbecues,
472
00:27:49,292 --> 00:27:50,960
loads of games, loads of fun.
473
00:27:54,172 --> 00:27:56,925
We have Molly from Knoxville, Tennessee...
474
00:27:57,926 --> 00:28:00,845
...and we have Jason
all the way over from Limerick, Ireland!
475
00:28:01,971 --> 00:28:05,015
It's my duty as the best man
to introduce everybody,
476
00:28:05,016 --> 00:28:06,476
and we all hit it off straightaway.
477
00:28:07,102 --> 00:28:08,520
...caught in a trap
478
00:28:10,772 --> 00:28:12,147
Can't walk out...
479
00:28:12,148 --> 00:28:15,318
We sang, and we drank, and we danced.
480
00:28:17,362 --> 00:28:18,613
The atmosphere was fantastic.
481
00:28:20,323 --> 00:28:21,533
He looked happy.
482
00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:30,499
The next day, at the wedding,
483
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:33,043
it started to become apparent to me
484
00:28:33,044 --> 00:28:35,004
that there was something amiss
485
00:28:35,797 --> 00:28:40,343
when I had a conversation
with the maid of honor, Susie.
486
00:28:41,803 --> 00:28:43,721
I had a speech prepared.
487
00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:47,516
{\an8}Before I was supposed to give it,
I was talking to Tracey,
488
00:28:47,517 --> 00:28:50,395
just telling her, you know,
it's just like a fairy tale.
489
00:28:50,895 --> 00:28:54,398
She starts to say how amazing it all is
and how romantic.
490
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,735
You know, Molly goes over there
491
00:28:57,318 --> 00:29:00,362
to be the godparent to Jason's kids,
492
00:29:00,363 --> 00:29:03,407
since she was childhood friends with Mags.
493
00:29:03,408 --> 00:29:04,700
What?
494
00:29:04,701 --> 00:29:08,705
And now, like, you know,
she's gonna be their stepmom.
495
00:29:09,205 --> 00:29:11,875
I... I don't know what you're talking about.
496
00:29:12,417 --> 00:29:14,377
Uh, she was the au pair.
497
00:29:14,878 --> 00:29:16,295
I'm like, "What?"
498
00:29:16,296 --> 00:29:18,047
Like, "You gotta be kidding me."
499
00:29:19,174 --> 00:29:20,924
We're just in disbelief
500
00:29:20,925 --> 00:29:24,220
that this is what the American contingent
of the wedding believe.
501
00:29:25,430 --> 00:29:28,600
Why would anybody create
this fabricated story?
502
00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:38,066
In the course of the investigation,
503
00:29:38,067 --> 00:29:41,361
we are interviewing people about Molly.
504
00:29:41,362 --> 00:29:44,073
Her friends, her family, her neighbors.
505
00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:50,079
And what we are learning
becomes full-on bizarre.
506
00:29:50,872 --> 00:29:54,374
One of the neighbors tells us
that she was part of a book club,
507
00:29:54,375 --> 00:29:57,044
and one of the ladies comes in
508
00:29:57,045 --> 00:30:00,757
and is just excited
about finding out she's pregnant.
509
00:30:02,383 --> 00:30:07,513
Allegedly, Molly starts telling everybody
this whole drawn-out story
510
00:30:07,514 --> 00:30:10,141
about how she gave birth to Sarah.
511
00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:15,312
And some of the people in the room
already knew that wasn't true.
512
00:30:15,313 --> 00:30:18,817
And yet, the story was being told
to other people in front of them.
513
00:30:21,069 --> 00:30:25,656
And she had told her college roommate
about a dead sister,
514
00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:27,867
and that her sister had died of cancer.
515
00:30:29,285 --> 00:30:31,204
We found that's also not true.
516
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:35,959
So, she is fabricating a story
about a sister that doesn't exist.
517
00:30:37,710 --> 00:30:40,420
Why does it matter that,
on so many occasions,
518
00:30:40,421 --> 00:30:44,884
Molly has told so many things
that are clearly not true?
519
00:30:45,718 --> 00:30:49,722
It matters because there were
only three people in that room that night.
520
00:30:50,348 --> 00:30:52,057
Jason can't tell his story.
521
00:30:52,058 --> 00:30:54,978
The two people who are left
are Tom and Molly.
522
00:30:55,770 --> 00:30:59,774
And we come to the conclusion
that Molly is not credible.
523
00:31:03,903 --> 00:31:06,281
Another thing that comes to light
524
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:11,535
is Molly's consistent demand
525
00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:14,539
to be able to adopt Jason's children.
526
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,959
Just months after the wedding,
527
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,923
she had visited a divorce attorney
to explore her rights to the children.
528
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,552
I wanted to adopt them
because they were my children.
529
00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:33,308
I mean, I was their mommy.
I was their mama. They were my kiddos.
530
00:31:34,642 --> 00:31:38,937
Jason and I had spoke previously
of an adoption ceremony
531
00:31:38,938 --> 00:31:41,231
being part of the wedding ceremony.
532
00:31:41,232 --> 00:31:43,233
There were a lot of promises
that were broken,
533
00:31:43,234 --> 00:31:44,819
but that was a big one.
534
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,945
I brought it up several times
535
00:31:46,946 --> 00:31:49,656
and say,
"Where are we on the adoption process?"
536
00:31:49,657 --> 00:31:51,241
"Anything I can do to help out?"
537
00:31:51,242 --> 00:31:53,452
And he would say,
well, you know, he's working on it,
538
00:31:53,453 --> 00:31:56,873
and, um, then nothing would happen.
539
00:32:01,002 --> 00:32:05,505
Looking back on the correspondence
that we got access to after Jason's death,
540
00:32:05,506 --> 00:32:07,925
we realized Jason was trying
to follow through on his promise
541
00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:10,136
to allow Molly to adopt the children.
542
00:32:12,388 --> 00:32:15,433
We saw an email from Jason to an attorney.
543
00:32:18,144 --> 00:32:21,439
I think one line stands out
in the email from the attorneys.
544
00:32:31,157 --> 00:32:33,117
Jason would never take that risk.
545
00:32:43,044 --> 00:32:45,754
Behind closed doors in Davidson,
546
00:32:45,755 --> 00:32:48,215
a custody battle began yesterday.
547
00:32:48,216 --> 00:32:51,051
At its center
are ten-year-old Jack Corbett
548
00:32:51,052 --> 00:32:53,303
and his eight-year-old sister, Sarah.
549
00:32:53,304 --> 00:32:55,472
The children are in the care
of this woman,
550
00:32:55,473 --> 00:32:57,934
his second wife, Molly Paige Martens.
551
00:32:58,685 --> 00:33:00,727
I remember Molly telling me that
552
00:33:00,728 --> 00:33:03,438
Tracey and David
were trying to take us away,
553
00:33:03,439 --> 00:33:05,482
and that she was going to court.
554
00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:07,318
And she told me that she was winning.
555
00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:11,446
Molly was telling us
about the new life we're going to have.
556
00:33:11,447 --> 00:33:13,865
She was already looking at apartments,
557
00:33:13,866 --> 00:33:16,577
looking at new cars,
new schools we were going to.
558
00:33:18,538 --> 00:33:20,706
It shouldn't even have got to this.
559
00:33:20,707 --> 00:33:24,793
These children are two Irish citizens.
Their father was an Irish citizen.
560
00:33:24,794 --> 00:33:27,838
{\an8}There's nothing. There's no adoption.
There's no dual citizenship.
561
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:29,716
{\an8}They're solely Irish citizens.
562
00:33:30,216 --> 00:33:32,426
We presented evidence that I was a mother,
563
00:33:32,427 --> 00:33:34,636
and clearly was the mother.
564
00:33:34,637 --> 00:33:37,014
I'm the one that took them
to all their appointments,
565
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:41,685
and took care of meals,
and did all the day-to-day activities.
566
00:33:41,686 --> 00:33:44,938
and I feel like we proved that
without a doubt,
567
00:33:44,939 --> 00:33:49,193
and their home environment was with me
and that they were safe and stable.
568
00:33:50,778 --> 00:33:53,989
We're here on the matter
of the guardianship
569
00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:58,411
of the minor children,
Sarah and Jack Corbett.
570
00:33:59,495 --> 00:34:01,663
The parents of Sarah and Jack,
I'm almost certain,
571
00:34:01,664 --> 00:34:05,460
would want their children to be raised
in the land of their origin,
572
00:34:06,002 --> 00:34:09,254
where the culture,
the religion, the customs,
573
00:34:09,255 --> 00:34:13,300
and their extended family on both sides
are prepared to nurture them in a manner
574
00:34:13,301 --> 00:34:15,511
that will be in the child's best interest.
575
00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:20,183
These children will be
returning to Ireland.
576
00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:23,101
All these people, you know, have said,
577
00:34:23,102 --> 00:34:26,813
"Well, Jason wanted his children
to be in Ireland with their family." What?
578
00:34:26,814 --> 00:34:28,232
Jason wanted to be alive.
579
00:34:29,275 --> 00:34:33,612
Jason didn't think he was gonna die.
I didn't think he was gonna die.
580
00:34:33,613 --> 00:34:38,533
And I don't know, if some crazy world
where he thought he was gonna die,
581
00:34:38,534 --> 00:34:41,995
I believe he would have wanted
the children to be with their mother.
582
00:34:41,996 --> 00:34:44,248
That is something I do believe.
583
00:34:47,794 --> 00:34:49,962
I remember the day
that I was taken from Molly.
584
00:34:50,922 --> 00:34:53,341
A police car pulled up outside the house,
585
00:34:54,258 --> 00:34:55,759
and two policemen hopped out,
586
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,138
and a van came up behind them
with two people in it.
587
00:35:01,057 --> 00:35:05,019
They told me that there had been
a court order to remove the kids.
588
00:35:06,479 --> 00:35:08,772
You know, Jack was kicking
and screaming and saying,
589
00:35:08,773 --> 00:35:11,024
"I'm not leaving with you.
I'm not leaving with you."
590
00:35:11,025 --> 00:35:12,275
"I'm not going,"
591
00:35:12,276 --> 00:35:13,902
and "You can't take me."
592
00:35:13,903 --> 00:35:17,198
And Sarah was crying.
593
00:35:19,367 --> 00:35:23,870
I remember I was holding Jack's hand,
and I asked them, "Where are we going?"
594
00:35:23,871 --> 00:35:27,041
"Who are you? Take us back.
Where are you taking us?"
595
00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:33,714
And I was... I was melting down,
and, you know, I was crying,
596
00:35:34,298 --> 00:35:37,592
um, but I was trying to hold it together.
597
00:35:37,593 --> 00:35:41,138
I was trying to make sense of this,
and I was trying to... I don't know.
598
00:35:41,139 --> 00:35:43,224
How can this possibly be happening?
599
00:35:57,655 --> 00:35:59,365
I love you so much.
600
00:36:00,032 --> 00:36:02,742
I remember just saying goodbye
and saying "I love you" to her,
601
00:36:02,743 --> 00:36:05,036
and she was saying that she loved me.
602
00:36:05,037 --> 00:36:06,371
I was a ten-year-old kid,
603
00:36:06,372 --> 00:36:09,542
and this was the only person
that had been there every single day.
604
00:36:10,376 --> 00:36:12,544
I'm saying goodbye
to someone who'd been my mom
605
00:36:12,545 --> 00:36:14,088
for as long as I can remember.
606
00:36:14,922 --> 00:36:15,923
I loved Molly.
607
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:19,843
It was not a goodbye for me,
it was just a visit,
608
00:36:19,844 --> 00:36:21,803
and I was going to see them soon,
609
00:36:21,804 --> 00:36:24,015
but it was the last time I saw them.
610
00:36:34,984 --> 00:36:37,611
Eleven-year-old Jack
and eight-year-old Sarah
611
00:36:37,612 --> 00:36:39,654
arrived back in Ireland yesterday.
612
00:36:39,655 --> 00:36:43,033
Molly Martens and her father,
65-year-old Thomas Martens,
613
00:36:43,034 --> 00:36:45,452
are described by police
as persons of interest
614
00:36:45,453 --> 00:36:47,955
in the death of 39-year-old Jason.
615
00:36:48,456 --> 00:36:50,248
When I came back to Ireland,
616
00:36:50,249 --> 00:36:53,878
there was just a huge media frenzy
around our family and my dad.
617
00:36:56,839 --> 00:36:59,925
{\an8}It was just a shock
to see so many people interested,
618
00:36:59,926 --> 00:37:02,094
and it being such
a high-profile case back home.
619
00:37:04,972 --> 00:37:07,015
I had made a promise to Jason
620
00:37:07,016 --> 00:37:11,854
that I would make sure
that he would be buried with Mags.
621
00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:17,817
There were so many people there
that loved and supported my dad,
622
00:37:17,818 --> 00:37:19,486
and supported all of us.
623
00:37:19,487 --> 00:37:23,366
And for the last, like, 200 meters,
we walked behind the casket.
624
00:37:28,579 --> 00:37:31,707
It was just hard to know
that I'm never going to see him again.
625
00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:48,306
I remember holding Sarah in my arms
in bed at night, and she's asking me,
626
00:37:48,307 --> 00:37:51,351
how did she lose, you know, three parents.
627
00:37:51,352 --> 00:37:54,312
I wanted to trust Tracey and David.
I really did.
628
00:37:54,313 --> 00:37:55,981
And I remember thinking about that.
629
00:37:55,982 --> 00:37:57,650
I remember thinking to myself,
630
00:37:58,359 --> 00:38:00,986
"You should just trust them.
You know they love you."
631
00:38:00,987 --> 00:38:04,115
But I found it really hard to let myself
632
00:38:04,699 --> 00:38:06,534
because I didn't want to get hurt again.
633
00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:13,416
We were dealing with just two
completely traumatized little children.
634
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:19,547
And they just needed me to be a mother,
and that's what I did.
635
00:38:20,673 --> 00:38:23,925
I suppose we were lucky that myself
and Tracey had trained as foster parents.
636
00:38:23,926 --> 00:38:25,760
We knew what needed
to happen to the two kids
637
00:38:25,761 --> 00:38:27,178
in order for them to move forward,
638
00:38:27,179 --> 00:38:30,558
and counseling was going to be
a very important part of their healing.
639
00:38:35,104 --> 00:38:37,522
The family wouldn't allow any contact.
640
00:38:37,523 --> 00:38:39,817
They wouldn't answer any calls.
641
00:38:42,278 --> 00:38:46,156
And so, I used social media
642
00:38:46,157 --> 00:38:48,826
{\an8}to send messages to my kids.
643
00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:53,039
{\an8}I have not spoken...
644
00:38:53,539 --> 00:38:57,710
spoken to them
since my visitation with them...
645
00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:01,713
{\an8}...um, under which
we were all under the impression
646
00:39:01,714 --> 00:39:03,882
{\an8}that it was a visitation, not a goodbye.
647
00:39:03,883 --> 00:39:06,344
{\an8}I want someone to tell them
that I love them.
648
00:39:07,136 --> 00:39:10,056
{\an8}And happy birthday, kiddos,
with all of my heart.
649
00:39:11,223 --> 00:39:13,476
They tried to fly a plane over our school.
650
00:39:14,602 --> 00:39:19,022
{\an8}And Molly was asking people
on social media websites
651
00:39:19,023 --> 00:39:21,400
{\an8}to just tell us that she loved us.
652
00:39:28,407 --> 00:39:30,242
{\an8}It was just a constant barrage.
653
00:39:30,868 --> 00:39:33,578
We were trying to build
a safe environment for them,
654
00:39:33,579 --> 00:39:37,040
and they were attempting
to undo everything.
655
00:39:37,041 --> 00:39:38,875
We don't want them
contacting these children.
656
00:39:38,876 --> 00:39:41,128
These are the people
that have killed their father.
657
00:39:51,263 --> 00:39:54,558
We were waiting
for the results of the toxicology report
658
00:39:55,101 --> 00:39:59,771
because we had been told
in the initial stages of the investigation
659
00:39:59,772 --> 00:40:02,233
that Jason was quite drunk.
660
00:40:02,983 --> 00:40:04,526
I know he'd been drinking.
661
00:40:04,527 --> 00:40:09,156
I mean, he was wild.
662
00:40:09,657 --> 00:40:12,158
Would you say
that you thought he was drunk?
663
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:13,993
Yes, he was drunk.
664
00:40:13,994 --> 00:40:16,622
It wasn't just sloppy drunk.
665
00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:19,833
{\an8}Now we have definitive scientific evidence
666
00:40:19,834 --> 00:40:22,044
{\an8}that this was not true.
667
00:40:24,296 --> 00:40:26,424
The number is .02.
668
00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:30,343
It's legal to drive
in North Carolina to .08.
669
00:40:30,344 --> 00:40:33,222
At the time he died, he was not drunk.
670
00:40:35,057 --> 00:40:37,183
In addition to a little bit of alcohol,
671
00:40:37,184 --> 00:40:41,896
Jason has some
of Molly's sleep medication tranquilizer
672
00:40:41,897 --> 00:40:42,857
in his system.
673
00:40:44,066 --> 00:40:45,859
{\an8}Did he take it voluntarily,
674
00:40:45,860 --> 00:40:47,944
or was it given to him
without his knowledge?
675
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:52,199
That's a question that we probably
will never be able to answer.
676
00:40:53,367 --> 00:40:58,080
But it's setting off flags for me
as to what really happened here.
677
00:40:59,957 --> 00:41:02,125
Reviewing Tom's interview
678
00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:05,587
about where this fight happened
and how it happened,
679
00:41:05,588 --> 00:41:07,214
it didn't make any sense.
680
00:41:07,715 --> 00:41:10,758
It turned out to be defensive
to have her in front,
681
00:41:10,759 --> 00:41:12,469
to have her between us.
682
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:14,387
He's holding her in front of him.
683
00:41:14,388 --> 00:41:16,097
I'm afraid I'm going to hit her.
684
00:41:16,098 --> 00:41:20,351
I kept trying to get around
and distract him,
685
00:41:20,352 --> 00:41:22,228
and get him to let her go.
686
00:41:22,229 --> 00:41:27,108
Most of Jason's injuries
were to the back and side of his head.
687
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:29,235
How do you swing a baseball bat
688
00:41:29,236 --> 00:41:32,740
and hit somebody in the back of the head
if you're standing in front of them?
689
00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:36,159
It makes more sense
that they were either running from you
690
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,870
or you came up behind them.
691
00:41:43,083 --> 00:41:46,921
At the crime scene, there was
blood spatter in more than one room.
692
00:41:48,255 --> 00:41:49,590
The master bedroom.
693
00:41:51,467 --> 00:41:52,927
In the hallway.
694
00:41:53,928 --> 00:41:54,887
In the bathroom.
695
00:41:55,513 --> 00:42:00,017
There's defects in the walls
from weapons being swung.
696
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:07,232
The blood spatter expert points out
697
00:42:07,233 --> 00:42:10,568
there are places
that appear to be consistent
698
00:42:10,569 --> 00:42:13,697
with Jason being hit as he goes down.
699
00:42:16,408 --> 00:42:18,451
There's one place in particular
700
00:42:18,452 --> 00:42:22,581
where Jason was hit
when his head was inches from the floor.
701
00:42:23,666 --> 00:42:27,795
Clearly, Jason was still being struck
in the head after he was down.
702
00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:35,094
Also, he points out that there is blood
on the back of the bedroom door.
703
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:41,891
That means there's a possibility there was
deadly violence going on in that room
704
00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:45,312
before Tom got there,
and the door was closed.
705
00:42:46,313 --> 00:42:48,691
Did Molly start something
that Tom got pulled into?
706
00:42:51,318 --> 00:42:53,529
Even if it started as self-defense,
707
00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:58,074
at the point that Jason
is no longer aggressive toward them,
708
00:42:58,075 --> 00:43:00,159
they have to stop beating him,
709
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,536
and they didn't.
710
00:43:01,537 --> 00:43:03,205
And they beat him to death.
711
00:43:05,708 --> 00:43:08,418
As a result of all that examination,
712
00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:12,213
we decide that it is appropriate
to charge second-degree murder.
713
00:43:12,214 --> 00:43:14,465
This isn't just excessive force.
714
00:43:14,466 --> 00:43:16,093
This is murder with malice.
715
00:43:18,012 --> 00:43:21,222
The case of a former model
and her father, an ex-FBI agent,
716
00:43:21,223 --> 00:43:24,225
{\an8}both now charged with murder
for the killing of her husband.
717
00:43:24,226 --> 00:43:26,561
They're due back in court
later on this month
718
00:43:26,562 --> 00:43:28,980
and are expected to plead not guilty.
719
00:43:28,981 --> 00:43:31,232
{\an8}If convicted,
they could face up to life in prison.
720
00:43:31,233 --> 00:43:34,777
{\an8}A $200,000 security
must be paid for each of them.
721
00:43:34,778 --> 00:43:36,904
They must surrender their passports,
722
00:43:36,905 --> 00:43:40,950
and they must agree to cease
all contact with the Corbett family,
723
00:43:40,951 --> 00:43:43,954
specifically Jason Corbett's
two young children.
724
00:43:53,672 --> 00:43:56,257
In the first few months
I was back in Ireland,
725
00:43:56,258 --> 00:43:58,218
I just felt I was very out of place.
726
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,137
I just felt very alone.
727
00:44:01,138 --> 00:44:02,597
I didn't trust anyone.
728
00:44:02,598 --> 00:44:04,683
I didn't have
a lot of friends at the time,
729
00:44:05,267 --> 00:44:07,645
and I missed my friends over in America.
730
00:44:08,187 --> 00:44:11,272
We miss everyone in Meadowlands.
731
00:44:11,273 --> 00:44:14,233
And to tell everyone that we miss them.
732
00:44:14,234 --> 00:44:15,861
Bye. Love you.
733
00:44:17,029 --> 00:44:19,030
Me and Sarah
had really different experiences,
734
00:44:19,031 --> 00:44:21,074
even though we came
from the same situation.
735
00:44:21,075 --> 00:44:24,327
She fit in a lot better.
She was a lot more chatty than me.
736
00:44:24,328 --> 00:44:25,870
She was more outgoing.
737
00:44:25,871 --> 00:44:28,749
Now, let's go over
and see what Sarah's doing.
738
00:44:29,291 --> 00:44:32,544
Hi, guys. I call this the baby swing.
739
00:44:36,799 --> 00:44:38,925
Okay, let me try that again.
740
00:44:38,926 --> 00:44:41,594
She was able to find friends
a lot quicker than I would have been.
741
00:44:41,595 --> 00:44:44,847
And she kind of was
able to open up easier.
742
00:44:44,848 --> 00:44:48,059
So, you see her nails.
They haven't been painted, have they?
743
00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:49,394
Not for a while.
744
00:44:49,395 --> 00:44:52,481
No, they're not really
working out very well.
745
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,318
And I missed my life,
I missed all the sports that I did,
746
00:44:57,319 --> 00:44:59,028
I missed, um, school,
747
00:44:59,029 --> 00:45:00,406
and I did miss Molly.
748
00:45:07,663 --> 00:45:10,832
Hi, Mom, this is Jack.
This cannot go public.
749
00:45:10,833 --> 00:45:12,875
I miss you, and I love you.
750
00:45:12,876 --> 00:45:16,004
Keep fighting really hard.
I want to know how you are.
751
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,548
I love you so much.
752
00:45:18,549 --> 00:45:20,884
Call me, pretty please.
753
00:45:24,805 --> 00:45:27,182
And then it was
just released to the press,
754
00:45:27,766 --> 00:45:29,685
which was just a huge betrayal.
755
00:45:31,770 --> 00:45:34,439
And that was kind of
when my perspective changed,
756
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,940
and I started to look things up,
757
00:45:35,941 --> 00:45:38,234
and I started to find out
what really happened
758
00:45:38,235 --> 00:45:42,072
and gain my own opinions
and see what the truth really was.
759
00:45:48,704 --> 00:45:50,706
As we are preparing for trial,
760
00:45:51,206 --> 00:45:56,670
we get word from Ireland that Jack needs
to come forward with the truth.
761
00:45:57,713 --> 00:46:01,215
So we set up
a live video-conference interview
762
00:46:01,216 --> 00:46:05,095
between our office and Jack in Ireland.
763
00:46:06,054 --> 00:46:11,518
{\an8}Molly made me lie, uh,
to the people who were interviewing me.
764
00:46:12,978 --> 00:46:15,355
{\an8}And how did Molly make you lie?
765
00:46:16,565 --> 00:46:17,815
Um...
766
00:46:17,816 --> 00:46:20,736
She made up a lot of stories about my dad.
767
00:46:21,487 --> 00:46:22,653
Um, that he was...
768
00:46:22,654 --> 00:46:26,032
She said that he was very abusive,
and she wasn't lying.
769
00:46:26,033 --> 00:46:29,577
Then she started crying,
and she said, "I'd never see you again."
770
00:46:29,578 --> 00:46:31,121
I didn't know what was going on.
771
00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:39,296
There has been this weight
on my shoulders for so long, of guilt.
772
00:46:39,963 --> 00:46:41,297
Molly told me,
773
00:46:41,298 --> 00:46:44,634
"You need to say that your dad hit me,
or they're gonna take you away."
774
00:46:44,635 --> 00:46:46,344
"And you're never going to see me again."
775
00:46:46,345 --> 00:46:48,346
Tell me why you're here.
776
00:46:48,347 --> 00:46:54,186
My aunt and uncle from my dad's side
are trying to take me away from my mom.
777
00:46:56,396 --> 00:46:59,191
The judge hears
the Dragonfly House recordings,
778
00:46:59,942 --> 00:47:03,695
he also is given the information
about Jack's recantation,
779
00:47:04,321 --> 00:47:08,366
and at this point,
the judge agreed with us
780
00:47:08,367 --> 00:47:11,577
that Jack and Sarah's statements
at the Dragonfly House
781
00:47:11,578 --> 00:47:13,788
are inadmissible hearsay,
782
00:47:13,789 --> 00:47:15,874
and now the jury will not hear them.
783
00:47:19,086 --> 00:47:21,379
I said what Molly told me to say.
784
00:47:21,380 --> 00:47:22,630
I had just lost my dad,
785
00:47:22,631 --> 00:47:25,259
I had already lost my mom,
I didn't want to lose anybody else,
786
00:47:25,843 --> 00:47:27,344
um, so I lied.
787
00:47:27,845 --> 00:47:32,348
I never saw my... my dad ever lay hands
on Molly, not once in my life.
788
00:47:32,349 --> 00:47:35,601
I was scared and afraid,
and I was so young,
789
00:47:35,602 --> 00:47:37,520
and I had no one else in the world,
790
00:47:37,521 --> 00:47:39,481
and I was afraid of losing Molly.
791
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:41,774
I have so much guilt
792
00:47:41,775 --> 00:47:44,820
because, in a way,
I felt like I let my dad down.
793
00:47:45,696 --> 00:47:48,782
I described someone
that was the complete opposite of my dad.
794
00:47:52,744 --> 00:47:53,995
Boom!
795
00:47:53,996 --> 00:47:55,371
I want people to know the truth,
796
00:47:55,372 --> 00:47:57,957
and I want people to know
my dad as a person.
797
00:47:57,958 --> 00:48:00,626
Um, my dad was a really amazing person,
798
00:48:00,627 --> 00:48:03,130
and what happened to him
shouldn't have happened to him.
799
00:48:05,883 --> 00:48:09,094
My dad was killed
the way no person should be killed.
800
00:48:11,179 --> 00:48:15,684
He was beaten to death
with a cinder block and a baseball bat,
801
00:48:16,393 --> 00:48:21,857
and no... no person should ever have
to go through that... that sort of pain.
802
00:48:22,357 --> 00:48:23,900
And, like, in the evidence,
803
00:48:23,901 --> 00:48:26,235
you see that
he tries to get away from them,
804
00:48:26,236 --> 00:48:28,112
and they keep hitting him.
805
00:48:28,113 --> 00:48:29,531
They... They won't stop.
806
00:48:30,073 --> 00:48:33,118
And it's just really hard
to... to even think about.
807
00:48:39,124 --> 00:48:42,836
I'm trying to establish
why Jason was killed.
808
00:48:44,504 --> 00:48:47,173
There's a lot of email exchanges
between Jason and Molly
809
00:48:47,174 --> 00:48:48,842
that are concerning.
810
00:49:14,826 --> 00:49:18,747
There seems to be red flags
in the relationship.
811
00:49:19,748 --> 00:49:23,502
I'm also getting messages
from members of the Meadowlands community.
812
00:49:24,002 --> 00:49:26,713
This one in particular
came on Facebook Messenger.
813
00:49:27,923 --> 00:49:31,509
It says, "Jason and Molly were at a party
the Friday before his death,
814
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:34,470
and she was belittling him,
calling him a fat ass,
815
00:49:34,471 --> 00:49:37,264
saying that he must have taken
all the nutrition from his twin
816
00:49:37,265 --> 00:49:39,434
because he looked like
he had eaten for two."
817
00:49:41,311 --> 00:49:45,524
Jason actually left the party early
and seemed down, not like himself.
818
00:49:47,818 --> 00:49:51,445
He had spoken to me
about coming back to Ireland
819
00:49:51,446 --> 00:49:55,075
because the marriage
wasn't in a good place.
820
00:49:56,034 --> 00:49:58,620
And he had sent a text to his friend.
821
00:50:16,763 --> 00:50:19,473
Putting the pieces of the jigsaw together,
822
00:50:19,474 --> 00:50:22,977
I believe the relationship was over,
and he wanted to move home,
823
00:50:22,978 --> 00:50:25,480
and it was going to happen really quickly.
824
00:50:27,524 --> 00:50:30,735
And Molly couldn't let Jason leave
with the children,
825
00:50:30,736 --> 00:50:33,321
because if she does,
she's lost everything.
826
00:50:41,455 --> 00:50:42,663
Developing tonight,
827
00:50:42,664 --> 00:50:44,790
a murder mystery
getting national attention now
828
00:50:44,791 --> 00:50:48,085
{\an8}as a former model and her father,
a former FBI agent,
829
00:50:48,086 --> 00:50:51,631
{\an8}find themselves facing life behind bars
for the death of the woman's husband.
830
00:50:53,508 --> 00:50:55,719
I did not commit a crime.
831
00:50:56,344 --> 00:51:01,599
I had one moment in this altercation
where I protected my father,
832
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,519
and if I hadn't done that,
I believe that he would be dead,
833
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,064
and then I would also have been killed.
834
00:51:08,065 --> 00:51:12,651
I don't know
if a father can see something worse
835
00:51:12,652 --> 00:51:17,448
than watching his child die
in front of him.
836
00:51:17,449 --> 00:51:21,327
I was going to save her life
or die trying.
837
00:51:21,328 --> 00:51:23,205
And I have no regrets.
838
00:51:25,457 --> 00:51:29,878
{\an8}Tom's number one priority
is to protect Molly.
839
00:51:30,462 --> 00:51:33,464
{\an8}He wants to save Molly,
so he has to say that he killed him.
840
00:51:33,465 --> 00:51:35,926
But he leaves Molly completely out of it.
841
00:51:37,260 --> 00:51:40,555
Molly is guilty of murder too,
the state contends.
842
00:51:42,474 --> 00:51:45,977
She was angry that she'd not been
allowed to adopt the children.
843
00:51:47,437 --> 00:51:50,648
Situation has been described
where he bought the house.
844
00:51:50,649 --> 00:51:52,109
He makes all the money.
845
00:51:52,776 --> 00:51:53,610
She's stuck.
846
00:51:54,694 --> 00:51:59,865
Malice feels like, when delivered
with the bat from Tom Marten...
847
00:51:59,866 --> 00:52:01,368
..."I hate him!"
848
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,495
That's what malice feels like.
849
00:52:04,496 --> 00:52:06,455
You know what malice feels like
850
00:52:06,456 --> 00:52:08,916
when it comes from the brick
that Molly had?
851
00:52:08,917 --> 00:52:10,334
It feels like...
852
00:52:10,335 --> 00:52:13,088
..."I hate him! And I want those kids!"
853
00:52:14,089 --> 00:52:15,882
That's what malice feels like.
854
00:52:16,508 --> 00:52:18,426
You know what malice looks like?
855
00:52:19,636 --> 00:52:23,473
Malice looks like all of those pictures
of what they did to his skull.
856
00:52:27,936 --> 00:52:31,272
{\an8}The wife and father-in-law
of Limerick man Jason Corbett
857
00:52:31,273 --> 00:52:35,192
have been sentenced
to between 20 and 25 years in jail
858
00:52:35,193 --> 00:52:38,488
after being found guilty
of second degree murder.
859
00:52:39,489 --> 00:52:43,951
I was in a state of complete shock.
860
00:52:43,952 --> 00:52:46,371
I believed in the system,
861
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,041
and I believed
that the truth would matter.
862
00:52:52,460 --> 00:52:55,630
And I felt like if I hadn't screamed
that night, if I...
863
00:52:56,339 --> 00:52:58,841
You know,
maybe he would've just strangled me,
864
00:52:58,842 --> 00:53:00,510
and maybe I would've been okay.
865
00:53:01,011 --> 00:53:02,053
And I felt like...
866
00:53:04,514 --> 00:53:08,350
that after my dad, you know,
lived this life serving his country
867
00:53:08,351 --> 00:53:10,019
and being a wonderful father,
868
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:14,106
now the rest of his life was over,
869
00:53:14,107 --> 00:53:16,109
and it was my fault.
870
00:53:16,985 --> 00:53:20,988
We worried the jury might not find
the two accused guilty,
871
00:53:20,989 --> 00:53:23,574
but they did, and we thank them for it.
872
00:53:23,575 --> 00:53:28,747
{\an8}For us, it's the beginning of healing,
of rebuilding our lives.
873
00:53:29,497 --> 00:53:32,334
Life has possibility for us again.
874
00:53:33,501 --> 00:53:36,045
It's the first time
where I just felt so free
875
00:53:36,046 --> 00:53:39,007
and so just empty, but in a good way.
876
00:53:39,633 --> 00:53:41,008
How dare you disapprove?
877
00:53:41,009 --> 00:53:43,511
There. You still lose.
878
00:53:44,054 --> 00:53:46,180
I started to settle
into my family properly.
879
00:53:46,181 --> 00:53:51,977
Happy birthday
Dear Sarah and Grandad...
880
00:53:51,978 --> 00:53:55,689
This is my mum, this is my dad,
and these are my brothers.
881
00:53:55,690 --> 00:53:57,524
Show us how it's done!
882
00:53:57,525 --> 00:53:59,568
- No, Jack.
- You're just moving your arm.
883
00:53:59,569 --> 00:54:00,946
Come on, show us how it's done.
884
00:54:02,322 --> 00:54:03,531
Sarah!
885
00:54:06,368 --> 00:54:09,328
I can remember the first time
Jack called me "Dad."
886
00:54:09,329 --> 00:54:12,998
He was going up the stairs one day,
and he just answered, "Okay, Dad."
887
00:54:12,999 --> 00:54:15,377
And you know, it was very...
888
00:54:16,503 --> 00:54:18,421
It was a very emotional moment for me.
889
00:54:25,053 --> 00:54:28,681
It was very much
a coming together of our little tribe,
890
00:54:28,682 --> 00:54:29,849
our blended family.
891
00:54:31,935 --> 00:54:35,688
Everything was going well,
but then it took a turn for the worst
892
00:54:35,689 --> 00:54:37,440
and everything went wrong again.
893
00:54:46,908 --> 00:54:49,076
We know how Jason Corbett died.
894
00:54:49,077 --> 00:54:51,413
{\an8}Now we're gonna tell you why he died.
895
00:54:53,206 --> 00:54:54,665
We are gonna tell this story.
896
00:54:54,666 --> 00:54:57,543
{\an8}It did not get told at the first trial.
897
00:54:57,544 --> 00:55:00,630
{\an8}By gosh,
it is going to get told this time.
898
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,931
Molly Corbett's family come to me
and asked me to review the record
899
00:55:10,932 --> 00:55:15,645
to convince the North Carolina
Court of Appeals to award a new trial.
900
00:55:16,896 --> 00:55:20,816
One of the first things
I come across is an interview
901
00:55:20,817 --> 00:55:23,903
that Molly gave
the morning that this happened.
902
00:55:24,487 --> 00:55:28,657
How many times before tonight
have you guys had physical altercations?
903
00:55:28,658 --> 00:55:30,075
I don't know.
904
00:55:30,076 --> 00:55:31,411
Too many to count?
905
00:55:33,788 --> 00:55:34,789
A lot.
906
00:55:35,290 --> 00:55:36,958
And the next thing I see
907
00:55:37,584 --> 00:55:41,086
is that the authorities
interviewed the children,
908
00:55:41,087 --> 00:55:45,967
starting the very next day with a visit
by the Department of Social Services,
909
00:55:46,843 --> 00:55:52,599
and they both describe their father
as controlling and abusive.
910
00:55:53,350 --> 00:55:57,728
And then three days later,
at the Dragonfly House,
911
00:55:57,729 --> 00:56:00,606
they repeat the initial statements.
912
00:56:00,607 --> 00:56:03,777
He just got very mad about simple things.
913
00:56:04,361 --> 00:56:06,488
It's gotten worse
over the past two months.
914
00:56:07,989 --> 00:56:12,077
Now he's been cussing and screaming
a lot more, getting a lot angrier.
915
00:56:13,578 --> 00:56:15,245
Unbeknownst to anybody,
916
00:56:15,246 --> 00:56:17,999
two weeks earlier,
Jason has gone to his doctor,
917
00:56:18,750 --> 00:56:22,754
and he complained
that he found himself getting angry
918
00:56:23,588 --> 00:56:25,215
for no reason.
919
00:56:26,049 --> 00:56:29,551
Almost Jack's identical words.
920
00:56:29,552 --> 00:56:33,932
So, now I'm thinking,
"Wow, maybe there's something to this."
921
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,059
I just came up with a keyword.
922
00:56:37,060 --> 00:56:38,227
Tell me about that.
923
00:56:38,228 --> 00:56:41,398
Um, "galaxy," that's mine,
and my sister's is "peacock."
924
00:56:42,607 --> 00:56:45,110
And who told you to set up these keywords?
925
00:56:45,777 --> 00:56:46,736
My grandma.
926
00:56:47,237 --> 00:56:49,822
I could just say, "peacock,"
and then I hang up the phone,
927
00:56:49,823 --> 00:56:51,408
and she would come over to our house.
928
00:56:52,075 --> 00:56:53,784
- From Tennessee?
- Yeah.
929
00:56:53,785 --> 00:56:55,869
Do you remember
when she came up with that?
930
00:56:55,870 --> 00:57:00,542
A few weeks before my dad died,
the peacock thing happened.
931
00:57:01,126 --> 00:57:03,919
What about their phone numbers?
Did you have those written down?
932
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,381
Yeah, we have one under a doll.
933
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,260
Their grandmother,
Sharon Martens, was concerned
934
00:57:11,261 --> 00:57:14,054
'cause of things she knew
about what's going on in the house,
935
00:57:14,055 --> 00:57:16,516
that she had the kids create a code word
936
00:57:17,142 --> 00:57:21,437
and gave the kids her phone number
and hid it from Jason
937
00:57:21,438 --> 00:57:23,564
because they knew how he would react.
938
00:57:23,565 --> 00:57:26,316
Tell me about this cinder block
that you're talking about,
939
00:57:26,317 --> 00:57:28,652
or the brick that your mom used.
940
00:57:28,653 --> 00:57:32,614
Um, we just got flowers
that we were going to plant
941
00:57:32,615 --> 00:57:34,492
in our front yard or backyard.
942
00:57:34,993 --> 00:57:37,954
And we were gonna paint it
so it looked pretty.
943
00:57:38,788 --> 00:57:42,749
And it was in my mom's room
because it was raining earlier.
944
00:57:42,750 --> 00:57:44,878
You have a brick on the nightstand?
945
00:57:45,587 --> 00:57:49,174
The kids and I were gonna paint...
946
00:57:51,718 --> 00:57:56,305
Paint these bricks and flowers
around the mailbox.
947
00:57:56,306 --> 00:57:57,598
It's not a coincidence
948
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:00,726
{\an8}that all the physical evidence
and the circumstantial evidence
949
00:58:00,727 --> 00:58:06,523
{\an8}all corroborate what Tom and Molly
told law enforcement from the beginning.
950
00:58:06,524 --> 00:58:10,069
I was stunned to read that the state
951
00:58:10,862 --> 00:58:14,741
had successfully persuaded
the trial judge to exclude
952
00:58:15,408 --> 00:58:17,410
everything that the children had said.
953
00:58:19,245 --> 00:58:21,664
How could there have been a fair trial
954
00:58:22,248 --> 00:58:25,960
when the jury never heard
the very evidence that supports
955
00:58:26,461 --> 00:58:28,421
what Molly said happened that night?
956
00:58:30,423 --> 00:58:32,841
One of the arguments the state made
957
00:58:32,842 --> 00:58:38,723
was that the children were
now recanting their original statements.
958
00:58:39,682 --> 00:58:44,854
{\an8}And is it true
that your father was abusive, or false?
959
00:58:45,939 --> 00:58:47,524
{\an8}Um, false.
960
00:58:48,483 --> 00:58:53,530
{\an8}I believe that this is
just a gross miscarriage of justice.
961
00:58:54,113 --> 00:58:58,576
When I watched the interview of Jack,
it looks very rehearsed.
962
00:58:59,327 --> 00:59:01,120
They appear to be brainwashed.
963
00:59:02,539 --> 00:59:03,540
I know the truth.
964
00:59:04,415 --> 00:59:06,751
I know that what they state
is not the truth.
965
00:59:08,545 --> 00:59:10,587
What's going on inside their heads?
966
00:59:10,588 --> 00:59:11,881
I don't know.
967
00:59:13,174 --> 00:59:16,760
One is conducted
by a trained child interviewer
968
00:59:16,761 --> 00:59:18,471
in a sterile environment.
969
00:59:19,055 --> 00:59:20,097
One is not.
970
00:59:20,098 --> 00:59:23,433
She told us that that's how my dad died,
and to tell the DA...
971
00:59:23,434 --> 00:59:24,852
Uh, you're gone.
972
00:59:26,521 --> 00:59:28,313
It's okay. Are you... Are you back?
973
00:59:28,314 --> 00:59:31,108
I'm going to have to call David.
974
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:33,860
If this is such an important interview,
975
00:59:33,861 --> 00:59:38,031
uh, why can't Davidson County
fly somebody to Ireland
976
00:59:38,032 --> 00:59:40,158
and conduct a proper interview?
977
00:59:40,159 --> 00:59:41,827
- Hi.
- Okay. Is that better?
978
00:59:41,828 --> 00:59:44,205
I'm gonna go ahead and back out.
You guys carry on.
979
00:59:45,206 --> 00:59:47,875
Molly Corbett is sitting
in the women's prison
980
00:59:49,460 --> 00:59:52,046
with a sentence of 20 to 25 years.
981
00:59:56,009 --> 00:59:57,802
And I don't think she did this.
982
01:00:11,441 --> 01:00:12,816
Good morning, everyone,
983
01:00:12,817 --> 01:00:15,778
and welcome
to the North Carolina Court of Appeals.
984
01:00:16,362 --> 01:00:20,198
I've got to convince these three judges
that an injustice was done.
985
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:22,826
Your Honor,
I wanted to address the decision
986
01:00:22,827 --> 01:00:25,288
to exclude the children's statements.
987
01:00:25,872 --> 01:00:30,335
The trial court in its conclusions,
in my judgment, were clearly erroneous.
988
01:00:31,711 --> 01:00:35,048
I got the decision
from the Court of Appeals that we had won.
989
01:00:36,424 --> 01:00:41,137
And the judge ruled that Jason Corbett
was the aggressor that night.
990
01:00:43,139 --> 01:00:45,432
But the state is appealing the decision
991
01:00:45,433 --> 01:00:47,684
to the full Supreme Court
of North Carolina.
992
01:00:47,685 --> 01:00:49,936
And so, I begin again.
993
01:00:49,937 --> 01:00:52,898
The children were uniquely positioned
to know the truth
994
01:00:52,899 --> 01:00:56,443
of whether their father
had an irrational anger problem.
995
01:00:56,444 --> 01:01:00,572
And therein lies the problem
with excluding the children's statements.
996
01:01:00,573 --> 01:01:03,116
The Supreme Court of North Carolina
is in recess.
997
01:01:03,117 --> 01:01:04,994
God save the state
and this honorable court.
998
01:01:10,625 --> 01:01:12,919
The Supreme Court has ruled, and we won.
999
01:01:14,545 --> 01:01:16,463
They have awarded a new trial.
1000
01:01:16,464 --> 01:01:21,010
And this time, the children's statements
are going to be heard by the jury.
1001
01:01:22,011 --> 01:01:25,180
The murder convictions
of Molly Corbett and Thomas Martens
1002
01:01:25,181 --> 01:01:27,391
have been overturned on appeal.
1003
01:01:27,392 --> 01:01:31,186
North Carolina Supreme Court
upheld an appellate court's ruling,
1004
01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:33,773
granting Tom and Molly a new trial.
1005
01:01:34,524 --> 01:01:37,192
There had been
serious problems with the trial,
1006
01:01:37,193 --> 01:01:40,278
and it was going to be rectified.
1007
01:01:40,279 --> 01:01:43,074
It was exhilarating. I was going home.
1008
01:01:45,451 --> 01:01:48,704
Well, tonight, Molly Corbett
and her father, Tom Martens,
1009
01:01:48,705 --> 01:01:50,706
are free on bail.
1010
01:01:50,707 --> 01:01:52,791
Mr. Martens, how does it feel to be out?
1011
01:01:52,792 --> 01:01:54,876
I'm glad to be back with my family.
1012
01:01:54,877 --> 01:01:57,671
The father-daughter pair
left the Davidson County Jail
1013
01:01:57,672 --> 01:01:59,632
just an hour apart.
1014
01:02:01,217 --> 01:02:05,304
{\an8}For the first time
in over three and a half years,
1015
01:02:06,347 --> 01:02:10,059
{\an8}Molly walked out of that jail free.
1016
01:02:13,020 --> 01:02:14,397
It's not fair...
1017
01:02:16,149 --> 01:02:19,986
...that they're out and walking.
1018
01:02:23,281 --> 01:02:24,991
I can't focus.
1019
01:02:28,911 --> 01:02:32,248
And there's no trial date set.
1020
01:02:35,209 --> 01:02:36,043
There's no...
1021
01:02:41,424 --> 01:02:46,345
There's nothing to say,
"Okay, this is when it's gonna be over."
1022
01:02:47,013 --> 01:02:48,639
I just have to sit here
1023
01:02:50,475 --> 01:02:54,437
and let my life pass me by again
because of them.
1024
01:02:56,689 --> 01:02:59,775
Very hard to see the people
that took so much from you
1025
01:02:59,776 --> 01:03:01,360
and took your dad's life,
1026
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,449
that are able to walk free and be able
to hug their dads and their moms
1027
01:03:08,075 --> 01:03:12,288
when we have to go down to a little patch
of grass with a headstone to see my dad.
1028
01:03:15,208 --> 01:03:19,045
Now we have to prepare
for a new trial in front of a new jury.
1029
01:03:19,962 --> 01:03:23,966
All of the evidence is gonna be presented,
and the whole story will finally get told.
1030
01:03:24,967 --> 01:03:29,137
Domestic abuse
was going to come into the light.
1031
01:03:29,138 --> 01:03:30,597
I mean, my domestic abuse,
1032
01:03:30,598 --> 01:03:35,186
the abuse that I suffered and endured,
it was... it was going to come out.
1033
01:03:39,482 --> 01:03:42,652
I think we appeared
as a pretty perfect family,
1034
01:03:43,986 --> 01:03:50,159
but things were not great
in regard to Jason's treatment of me.
1035
01:03:51,953 --> 01:03:55,080
Just every day,
there would be kind of an interrogation
1036
01:03:55,081 --> 01:03:58,708
of what I did that day,
who I talked to, and what I was wearing.
1037
01:03:58,709 --> 01:04:02,337
And if I wore my hair a different way,
there would be,
1038
01:04:02,338 --> 01:04:04,172
"Why did you wear your hair that way?"
1039
01:04:04,173 --> 01:04:06,092
"Were you hoping to talk
to someone specific?"
1040
01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:10,012
Everything was just fraught with peril.
1041
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:15,308
Sometimes he would
just be kind of seething and angry
1042
01:04:15,309 --> 01:04:18,144
because I hadn't abided by something
1043
01:04:18,145 --> 01:04:20,439
or I'd been somewhere
I shouldn't have been.
1044
01:04:22,483 --> 01:04:24,652
And sometimes that would lead, uh,
1045
01:04:25,862 --> 01:04:27,488
to a violent situation.
1046
01:04:32,493 --> 01:04:36,831
Molly was becoming a shell
of what she had been.
1047
01:04:38,207 --> 01:04:41,751
She was definitely not as happy.
1048
01:04:41,752 --> 01:04:44,338
She was definitely not as confident.
1049
01:04:45,172 --> 01:04:47,675
She was acting beaten down.
1050
01:04:48,885 --> 01:04:52,972
I did not realize the extent
or the seriousness of the domestic abuse
1051
01:04:53,514 --> 01:04:54,890
that I do now.
1052
01:04:54,891 --> 01:04:57,767
Not letting me adopt the children
was a method of control.
1053
01:04:57,768 --> 01:05:00,395
And it was something
that I didn't recognize early on.
1054
01:05:00,396 --> 01:05:04,734
He would always say, "Why does it matter?
It's just a piece of paper."
1055
01:05:06,611 --> 01:05:10,280
He knew that a divorce and custody
1056
01:05:10,281 --> 01:05:14,367
was just in the realm of possibility
if I adopted the kids.
1057
01:05:14,368 --> 01:05:17,914
And so, he wanted to make sure
that didn't happen.
1058
01:05:20,207 --> 01:05:22,751
If I had left at that time,
1059
01:05:22,752 --> 01:05:25,128
the kids were not old enough
to have a say in court
1060
01:05:25,129 --> 01:05:29,008
and I would most likely lose the kids.
1061
01:05:29,550 --> 01:05:32,677
And I... I wasn't willing to lose the kids,
and he knew that.
1062
01:05:32,678 --> 01:05:34,889
He knew I couldn't ever leave the kids.
1063
01:05:37,975 --> 01:05:42,562
And so, my friend in the neighborhood
who was the family attorney,
1064
01:05:42,563 --> 01:05:48,401
she recommended that I keep a record
of not only the abuse
1065
01:05:48,402 --> 01:05:51,529
but also just general motherhood.
1066
01:05:51,530 --> 01:05:56,160
You know, so if there was a divorce
when the kids were older,
1067
01:05:56,702 --> 01:06:00,664
that there would be a record
that I was their mom.
1068
01:06:00,665 --> 01:06:04,585
And she recommended
that I make recordings.
1069
01:06:07,338 --> 01:06:09,547
I was trying to have
a conversation with Jack.
1070
01:06:09,548 --> 01:06:12,425
Could you just give me
two minutes to talk to my kids
1071
01:06:12,426 --> 01:06:14,136
when you're with them all the time?
1072
01:06:15,179 --> 01:06:16,888
- Could you do that?
- Yeah, I'm sorry.
1073
01:06:16,889 --> 01:06:17,932
You should be.
1074
01:06:19,183 --> 01:06:22,936
They were little recording devices
that were voice activated,
1075
01:06:22,937 --> 01:06:25,731
and I put them around the house.
1076
01:06:27,775 --> 01:06:29,485
Underneath the coffee table.
1077
01:06:30,486 --> 01:06:31,862
Underneath the counter.
1078
01:06:32,446 --> 01:06:34,782
One on the nightstand.
1079
01:06:36,409 --> 01:06:39,786
My plan had been to control the situation
1080
01:06:39,787 --> 01:06:42,789
until they were old enough
to have a say in court.
1081
01:06:42,790 --> 01:06:45,167
And there were times when I thought
1082
01:06:46,419 --> 01:06:48,879
that I'm gonna die before that happens.
1083
01:06:50,464 --> 01:06:53,008
Um, but there was never a time
1084
01:06:53,009 --> 01:06:56,887
where I thought that Jason might die
before that happens.
1085
01:07:02,977 --> 01:07:05,186
{\an8}I get a call from Doug Kingsbery
1086
01:07:05,187 --> 01:07:09,316
saying that he has a case that he thinks
I might be able to help with.
1087
01:07:10,234 --> 01:07:14,070
We have a man who is
a very successful businessman.
1088
01:07:14,071 --> 01:07:15,613
He gets along with everybody.
1089
01:07:15,614 --> 01:07:18,284
Does not have an angry bone in his body.
1090
01:07:19,410 --> 01:07:22,370
The thing is,
abusers can appear one way n public
1091
01:07:22,371 --> 01:07:24,123
but very different in private.
1092
01:07:24,832 --> 01:07:30,712
And so, Doug sent me an audio recording
of the family during dinnertime.
1093
01:07:30,713 --> 01:07:34,299
Could I have dinner with the kids?
That's what I asked, but you ignored it
1094
01:07:34,300 --> 01:07:35,675
and went and fed them anyway.
1095
01:07:35,676 --> 01:07:37,844
I was on the phone with you
ten minutes ago,
1096
01:07:37,845 --> 01:07:40,889
I said, "I'm gonna make some soup.
Do you want some?" And you said no.
1097
01:07:40,890 --> 01:07:43,558
I said no
because I thought we'd have family dinner.
1098
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:45,435
But you ignored it, honey,
because you just do,
1099
01:07:45,436 --> 01:07:47,062
because it's not what you wanted to do.
1100
01:07:47,063 --> 01:07:49,647
I said, "I'm making soup for the kids."
1101
01:07:49,648 --> 01:07:50,857
"Do you want some?"
1102
01:07:50,858 --> 01:07:53,443
The reason I said no
is because you ignored what I asked.
1103
01:07:53,444 --> 01:07:54,819
I didn't ignore anything.
1104
01:07:54,820 --> 01:07:57,197
You forgot what I asked.
You couldn't care less.
1105
01:07:57,198 --> 01:08:00,784
One of the characteristics of abusers
is they like to take on the victim role.
1106
01:08:00,785 --> 01:08:04,120
And no matter how much Molly tries
to appease him or reassure him
1107
01:08:04,121 --> 01:08:06,498
that she was offering
to do something for him,
1108
01:08:06,499 --> 01:08:07,791
he does not want to be pleased.
1109
01:08:07,792 --> 01:08:09,918
He doesn't want a solution to the problem.
1110
01:08:09,919 --> 01:08:11,795
He wants a problem to complain about.
1111
01:08:11,796 --> 01:08:14,464
I said,
"I'd like to have dinner with my family."
1112
01:08:14,465 --> 01:08:16,341
That's what I said to you. You decided--
1113
01:08:16,342 --> 01:08:18,843
Jack, stop hanging off
the banister. Go to your room.
1114
01:08:18,844 --> 01:08:21,513
No, don't go up to your room,
Jack, come down here, please.
1115
01:08:21,514 --> 01:08:23,598
Don't tell them to go
when I'm talking to them.
1116
01:08:23,599 --> 01:08:26,476
- I gotta go to the bathroom.
- You can stay there, please.
1117
01:08:26,477 --> 01:08:28,061
Can you look at me? Have some respect?
1118
01:08:28,062 --> 01:08:31,106
Asked you to have dinner with my family.
You said you were feeding the kids.
1119
01:08:31,107 --> 01:08:34,317
That's why I said no, because you ignored
what I said about dinner with my family.
1120
01:08:34,318 --> 01:08:36,736
- Sit down, finish your food.
- Who cares what he says.
1121
01:08:36,737 --> 01:08:39,239
Don't send them out when I'm talking.
You don't have the right.
1122
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,033
"You don't have the right."
1123
01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:45,287
I mean, yeah, she's not...
she's not their adoptive mother.
1124
01:08:46,247 --> 01:08:49,791
According to Jason,
this is further ammunition
1125
01:08:49,792 --> 01:08:52,001
to letting Molly know where she stands.
1126
01:08:52,002 --> 01:08:54,420
It's Pancake Tuesday.
Why don't I make some pancakes?
1127
01:08:54,421 --> 01:08:57,340
I don't want anything from you.
I asked you over and over again.
1128
01:08:57,341 --> 01:08:59,801
You made it clear you want
to try to separate me from my kids.
1129
01:08:59,802 --> 01:09:00,844
No, I don't, J.
1130
01:09:00,845 --> 01:09:02,762
I'm gonna do the same to you.
1131
01:09:02,763 --> 01:09:04,931
The difference is,
I will be able to do it.
1132
01:09:04,932 --> 01:09:07,017
That's a very clear threat from Jason.
1133
01:09:07,518 --> 01:09:10,771
"If you try to take the kids from me,
I'll just take the kids from you."
1134
01:09:11,605 --> 01:09:13,690
I shouldn't have to say it over and over...
1135
01:09:13,691 --> 01:09:15,900
Can you guys get out
the stuff for pancakes?
1136
01:09:15,901 --> 01:09:17,735
There you go again!
1137
01:09:17,736 --> 01:09:20,113
I'm talking to you,
and you're talking about something else!
1138
01:09:20,114 --> 01:09:22,365
- Stop slamming your chair!
- Stop fighting!
1139
01:09:22,366 --> 01:09:24,033
Go up to bed.
1140
01:09:24,034 --> 01:09:26,786
- Up to bed. Go.
- She just got scared, J.
1141
01:09:26,787 --> 01:09:29,038
- Up to bed.
- She did, Dad. She got scared.
1142
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:31,000
Go to bed. Go to bed. Go to bed.
1143
01:09:34,420 --> 01:09:38,548
If a jury hears this evidence
of domestic abuse,
1144
01:09:38,549 --> 01:09:40,885
they will find Tom and Molly innocent.
1145
01:09:42,428 --> 01:09:46,181
Because Molly told a story five years ago,
or maybe two stories,
1146
01:09:46,182 --> 01:09:49,935
does that mean
that she was not abused by Jason?
1147
01:09:50,436 --> 01:09:52,353
My daughter's not a liar.
1148
01:09:52,354 --> 01:09:53,480
I'm not a liar.
1149
01:09:55,774 --> 01:09:58,194
And if you think we are, go for it.
1150
01:09:59,111 --> 01:09:59,987
Prove it.
1151
01:10:03,532 --> 01:10:05,909
We learn that there are secret recordings
1152
01:10:05,910 --> 01:10:08,703
that Molly has made of Jason.
1153
01:10:08,704 --> 01:10:12,248
Molly was the only person who knew
the recording was being made,
1154
01:10:12,249 --> 01:10:15,628
which creates a scenario
where she can control the narrative.
1155
01:10:17,087 --> 01:10:23,259
{\an8}Molly was preparing
for divorce and custody proceedings.
1156
01:10:23,260 --> 01:10:25,596
I'll be able to do
what you're trying to do.
1157
01:10:26,347 --> 01:10:28,933
- I'm not trying to do anything, J.
- You are.
1158
01:10:29,642 --> 01:10:31,560
She clearly is trying to do something.
1159
01:10:32,228 --> 01:10:35,897
Anyone who's making secret recordings
in a personal relationship
1160
01:10:35,898 --> 01:10:40,569
can manipulate the context
and make Jason look bad.
1161
01:10:45,324 --> 01:10:48,201
In the last months
before my father was killed,
1162
01:10:48,202 --> 01:10:50,411
the mood was kinda different in the house.
1163
01:10:50,412 --> 01:10:53,624
There wasn't as much activities
with us as a family going on.
1164
01:10:55,334 --> 01:10:57,752
When I kinda
really started to notice it was
1165
01:10:57,753 --> 01:11:01,507
when I found the recording device
in my dad's car, and I showed it to him.
1166
01:11:02,007 --> 01:11:05,218
And he was absolutely shocked
to see it in there.
1167
01:11:05,219 --> 01:11:08,806
And he said, "How do you feel
about moving back to Ireland?"
1168
01:11:09,306 --> 01:11:11,849
And Sarah said, "Without Mommy?"
And my dad said, "Yes."
1169
01:11:11,850 --> 01:11:13,644
And I knew Molly would not like that.
1170
01:11:15,020 --> 01:11:18,607
She knew he'd be able to take us away,
and she'd be able to do nothing about it.
1171
01:11:19,984 --> 01:11:22,903
It appears from everything
we learned about Molly
1172
01:11:23,487 --> 01:11:27,907
that things are coming to a head
as it relates to the marriage
1173
01:11:27,908 --> 01:11:32,454
and to, most importantly,
to her custody of the children.
1174
01:11:34,373 --> 01:11:37,835
We look back at Tom's statement
the night Jason was killed,
1175
01:11:38,669 --> 01:11:42,422
and the reason for the visit
from Tom and Sharon.
1176
01:11:42,423 --> 01:11:44,173
I mean, we're fairly social people.
1177
01:11:44,174 --> 01:11:46,801
And we didn't really have
anything going on this weekend.
1178
01:11:46,802 --> 01:11:50,179
That Saturday morning, we decided,
"Hey, why don't we go on over to Molly's?"
1179
01:11:50,180 --> 01:11:53,057
It's a four-hour drive,
and it's a beautiful day.
1180
01:11:53,058 --> 01:11:55,977
But we learned from people in Tennessee,
1181
01:11:55,978 --> 01:11:58,146
where Tom and Sharon live,
1182
01:11:58,147 --> 01:12:02,734
that Tom and Sharon had plans
that night with his boss,
1183
01:12:02,735 --> 01:12:05,154
which they canceled at the last minute.
1184
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,492
We do not believe
that Tom came to North Carolina
1185
01:12:11,493 --> 01:12:13,829
to beat Jason to death
with a baseball bat.
1186
01:12:14,330 --> 01:12:20,294
Our theory is that Molly
had devised some explosive event.
1187
01:12:21,628 --> 01:12:27,092
If Molly could get Jason to blow up
1188
01:12:28,218 --> 01:12:30,846
while her parents were there as witnesses,
1189
01:12:32,097 --> 01:12:35,308
she could apply
for a domestic violence protective order,
1190
01:12:35,309 --> 01:12:37,644
which would remove him from the house.
1191
01:12:39,396 --> 01:12:43,192
And then she can file
for emergency custody of the children
1192
01:12:43,692 --> 01:12:46,195
and take his children away from him.
1193
01:12:49,490 --> 01:12:52,951
But when the plan went awry,
and it got violent,
1194
01:12:53,869 --> 01:12:57,331
it appears she quit caring
whether or not he lived or died.
1195
01:13:11,178 --> 01:13:14,305
Now, everyone's talking
about Tom and Molly Martens.
1196
01:13:14,306 --> 01:13:16,682
This case has caused a big divide
1197
01:13:16,683 --> 01:13:19,018
between the US and Ireland
for a long time.
1198
01:13:19,019 --> 01:13:23,524
The situation now is that
they are expected to go for a retrial
1199
01:13:24,191 --> 01:13:26,735
on the same charges in 2022.
1200
01:13:28,112 --> 01:13:30,571
How difficult is it
to listen to all the things
1201
01:13:30,572 --> 01:13:33,408
that you know have been said
about your dead brother
1202
01:13:33,409 --> 01:13:35,410
to make him look as if he deserved it?
1203
01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:37,954
I think that's one of the reasons
why I wrote the book,
1204
01:13:37,955 --> 01:13:42,626
because we weren't able to defend Jason.
1205
01:13:44,169 --> 01:13:49,758
I've been fighting
for justice for Jason for seven years.
1206
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:53,345
Now I face a retrial,
1207
01:13:53,846 --> 01:13:56,640
and I expect
that the defense will call me.
1208
01:13:57,141 --> 01:14:01,562
I believe they're going to try and claim
that I brainwashed Jack and Sarah,
1209
01:14:02,604 --> 01:14:05,315
which is utterly... untrue.
1210
01:14:08,026 --> 01:14:11,154
Telling a child what to say,
or telling a child to lie,
1211
01:14:11,155 --> 01:14:13,615
would go against every fiber of my being.
1212
01:14:14,533 --> 01:14:16,034
That is never going to happen.
1213
01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:25,251
I'm just packing, getting ready,
'cause we're leaving in the morning
1214
01:14:25,252 --> 01:14:27,629
for the pre-trial hearing.
1215
01:14:28,130 --> 01:14:32,718
It will be the first time
we see the Martens since 2015.
1216
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:36,430
So, that's going to be very hard.
1217
01:14:37,764 --> 01:14:39,765
The reason they were granted a retrial
1218
01:14:39,766 --> 01:14:42,101
is a lot to do
with my Dragonfly interview,
1219
01:14:42,102 --> 01:14:44,396
where I said that my dad hit Molly.
1220
01:14:45,189 --> 01:14:47,274
It's always in the back of my mind.
1221
01:14:49,234 --> 01:14:51,694
We all just hope that the retrial is set
as soon as possible.
1222
01:14:51,695 --> 01:14:53,905
These people have been out
for over a year,
1223
01:14:53,906 --> 01:14:58,784
and that I think it's time
for this book to be closed
1224
01:14:58,785 --> 01:15:00,954
and that justice to be served.
1225
01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:04,917
I just want to be there
to support my father and my family.
1226
01:15:18,722 --> 01:15:21,974
The family of Jason Corbett,
the Irishman found beaten to death
1227
01:15:21,975 --> 01:15:24,810
in his North Carolina home in 2015,
1228
01:15:24,811 --> 01:15:28,856
have said they hope a date
for Molly and Tom Martens's retrial
1229
01:15:28,857 --> 01:15:30,943
will be set at a hearing today.
1230
01:15:32,694 --> 01:15:36,490
They walked into the courtroom
and I saw Molly, and I saw Tom.
1231
01:15:37,533 --> 01:15:39,535
They had their heads down.
They wouldn't look at me.
1232
01:15:41,411 --> 01:15:43,830
{\an8}And I thought, "I'm not afraid anymore."
1233
01:15:45,207 --> 01:15:47,124
I'm not the one who should be afraid.
1234
01:15:47,125 --> 01:15:49,001
I... I did nothing wrong.
1235
01:15:49,002 --> 01:15:50,836
I lied, that's true.
1236
01:15:50,837 --> 01:15:52,380
Um...
1237
01:15:52,381 --> 01:15:53,382
But I was eight.
1238
01:15:53,966 --> 01:15:58,428
And I do believe that justice
will be delivered for my dad.
1239
01:15:59,304 --> 01:16:01,847
We're going
to some breaking news in the last while
1240
01:16:01,848 --> 01:16:05,726
as the killers of Irish businessman
Jason Corbett will face a retrial
1241
01:16:05,727 --> 01:16:07,896
on murder charges next summer.
1242
01:16:08,605 --> 01:16:10,106
The family had been hoping
1243
01:16:10,107 --> 01:16:12,233
that the retrial would take place
before Christmas.
1244
01:16:12,234 --> 01:16:14,361
Unfortunately, that is not to be.
1245
01:16:15,362 --> 01:16:17,864
Right now,
it's really just a waiting game.
1246
01:16:21,326 --> 01:16:24,371
It's stressful having to deal with
this hanging over us.
1247
01:16:25,872 --> 01:16:28,416
But if I get to testify,
which I hope I do,
1248
01:16:28,417 --> 01:16:32,837
I feel confident I'll be able to portray
what really happened inside the house,
1249
01:16:32,838 --> 01:16:36,924
and tell people and the jury
what Molly was really like,
1250
01:16:36,925 --> 01:16:39,385
and the real version of events, the truth.
1251
01:16:39,386 --> 01:16:42,138
I've been waiting a long time
to say everything,
1252
01:16:42,139 --> 01:16:47,435
and I didn't have the words to explain
what happened to me,
1253
01:16:47,436 --> 01:16:49,229
and my brother, and my dad before.
1254
01:16:54,776 --> 01:16:56,068
On the outside of the house,
1255
01:16:56,069 --> 01:16:58,864
the house looks like
sunshines and rainbows.
1256
01:17:00,699 --> 01:17:04,077
And on the inside, it's dark and heavy.
1257
01:17:07,831 --> 01:17:10,333
My relationship with Molly
got progressively worse
1258
01:17:10,334 --> 01:17:12,294
as we moved over to America.
1259
01:17:14,254 --> 01:17:18,467
Myself and Sarah used to have pictures
of our biological mother in our rooms,
1260
01:17:18,967 --> 01:17:21,637
and she took the picture off me
and hid it.
1261
01:17:23,388 --> 01:17:27,933
I feel that Molly wanted to be
the only mother that existed,
1262
01:17:27,934 --> 01:17:29,936
that there was no one else before her.
1263
01:17:30,771 --> 01:17:34,775
Sarah had a lot closer relationship
with Molly than I did.
1264
01:17:35,901 --> 01:17:37,653
They did everything together.
1265
01:17:38,403 --> 01:17:40,906
She was like the... the star child.
1266
01:17:42,491 --> 01:17:44,117
I was closer with my dad.
1267
01:17:46,286 --> 01:17:49,413
I remember when my father
was on a work trip,
1268
01:17:49,414 --> 01:17:51,500
and I said, "Goodbye, I love you."
1269
01:17:52,125 --> 01:17:54,210
She chased me up to my room,
1270
01:17:54,211 --> 01:17:58,422
she destroyed my whole room,
pulled all my clothes out, flipped my bed,
1271
01:17:58,423 --> 01:17:59,883
turned over my dresser.
1272
01:18:04,012 --> 01:18:07,264
I was in the car with Molly,
and I asked her,
1273
01:18:07,265 --> 01:18:11,519
"Could I start tee-ball?
Dad's the coach, so he can bring me."
1274
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,938
And Molly turned around and said,
"Do you not love me?"
1275
01:18:13,939 --> 01:18:17,024
"Do you not care about me?
You don't want to spend time with me."
1276
01:18:17,025 --> 01:18:19,236
"Why do you want
to spend time with your dad?"
1277
01:18:19,820 --> 01:18:23,406
I felt awful
because I thought I really hurt her.
1278
01:18:23,407 --> 01:18:25,950
I couldn't even tell my dad
things that happened,
1279
01:18:25,951 --> 01:18:29,704
and that made it really hard for me
to know what was right and what was wrong,
1280
01:18:29,705 --> 01:18:33,500
because I only had one person
whispering in my ear the whole time.
1281
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,923
I was constantly fighting
to be loved by her.
1282
01:18:41,007 --> 01:18:45,010
I did everything I could
to just feel attention off her,
1283
01:18:45,011 --> 01:18:46,303
not even love,
1284
01:18:46,304 --> 01:18:47,222
and I loved her.
1285
01:18:49,391 --> 01:18:51,184
Me and Jack both loved her.
1286
01:18:52,144 --> 01:18:56,021
But I think that she pitted
me and Jack against each other
1287
01:18:56,022 --> 01:18:57,441
to fight for her love.
1288
01:18:58,233 --> 01:19:00,568
I think if it had gotten to a case
1289
01:19:00,569 --> 01:19:03,195
where we had been brought
before a judge at 13,
1290
01:19:03,196 --> 01:19:06,158
I would have chose my dad
every day of the week.
1291
01:19:07,242 --> 01:19:09,578
But Sarah would have picked Molly.
1292
01:19:11,747 --> 01:19:14,374
Molly took Sarah away
from my dad constantly.
1293
01:19:15,459 --> 01:19:16,460
She never got...
1294
01:19:28,430 --> 01:19:31,183
She never got the relationship
that she wanted with him.
1295
01:19:31,767 --> 01:19:32,850
That's Molly's fault.
1296
01:19:32,851 --> 01:19:34,811
In my opinion, that's Molly's fault.
1297
01:19:45,947 --> 01:19:49,534
As we are preparing for a retrial,
1298
01:19:50,076 --> 01:19:54,997
I find out that
Molly has a handful of close friends
1299
01:19:54,998 --> 01:19:59,961
{\an8}that heard Jason in fits of anger,
1300
01:20:00,962 --> 01:20:02,296
{\an8}threaten her,
1301
01:20:02,297 --> 01:20:05,424
or who witnessed
Jason's controlling behavior,
1302
01:20:05,425 --> 01:20:08,261
supporting what Molly has described to me.
1303
01:20:09,262 --> 01:20:11,139
One of the women says,
1304
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,936
"Molly has told me Jason
has strangled me before in the bedroom."
1305
01:20:17,687 --> 01:20:18,939
And she said,
1306
01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:26,321
"Molly was afraid
that Jason had strangled his first wife,
1307
01:20:26,905 --> 01:20:30,616
and she was growing concerned
that it could happen to her."
1308
01:20:30,617 --> 01:20:32,953
And I'm... I'm thinking, "What?"
1309
01:20:34,204 --> 01:20:35,580
It's been there all along,
1310
01:20:36,706 --> 01:20:38,582
since the first interview
with law enforcement.
1311
01:20:38,583 --> 01:20:42,838
His first wife died
in mysterious circumstances.
1312
01:20:43,630 --> 01:20:48,134
Um, the finding was
that she had an asthma attack.
1313
01:20:48,635 --> 01:20:49,885
This didn't just come up.
1314
01:20:49,886 --> 01:20:53,181
Tom had concerns
from when he talked to Mikey Fitzpatrick.
1315
01:20:57,727 --> 01:21:00,479
We had the maternal grandparents over.
1316
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:02,147
They're at our house.
1317
01:21:02,148 --> 01:21:04,066
I have occasion to have a conversation
1318
01:21:04,067 --> 01:21:07,862
with the father
of the deceased first wife.
1319
01:21:07,863 --> 01:21:09,865
His name is Mikey Fitzpatrick.
1320
01:21:10,365 --> 01:21:14,369
He's not a well-educated man.
He's very hard to understand.
1321
01:21:14,953 --> 01:21:17,288
Got a heavy Irish accent.
1322
01:21:17,289 --> 01:21:19,249
I asked him what he thought of Jason.
1323
01:21:19,916 --> 01:21:23,044
He said, "I think he killed my daughter."
1324
01:21:23,587 --> 01:21:25,546
I found that pretty shocking.
1325
01:21:25,547 --> 01:21:28,507
I didn't know if it was just a bitter man
1326
01:21:28,508 --> 01:21:33,305
who... needed somebody to blame
for his daughter's death,
1327
01:21:34,264 --> 01:21:37,225
or if he had a basis for this.
1328
01:21:38,435 --> 01:21:39,853
He was deadly serious.
1329
01:21:41,229 --> 01:21:43,063
He wasn't joking around.
1330
01:21:43,064 --> 01:21:47,860
{\an8}Nobody investigated
any further into Mags' death
1331
01:21:47,861 --> 01:21:50,529
{\an8}and the circumstances
surrounding Mags' death.
1332
01:21:50,530 --> 01:21:53,658
Everybody accepted the autopsy findings
1333
01:21:54,284 --> 01:21:56,912
until Doug started digging further.
1334
01:21:58,288 --> 01:22:01,875
I obtained a copy
of the official autopsy report
1335
01:22:02,876 --> 01:22:04,878
of Jason's first wife.
1336
01:22:13,637 --> 01:22:15,847
I have a medical expert look at this.
1337
01:22:16,348 --> 01:22:19,935
He says, "Jason Corbett's first wife
did not die from an asthma attack."
1338
01:22:21,102 --> 01:22:23,312
"The evidence to me shows
1339
01:22:23,313 --> 01:22:26,775
that she succumbed
to injuries from manual strangulation."
1340
01:22:28,777 --> 01:22:33,531
We had learned that Mags' sister
was there that night.
1341
01:22:35,533 --> 01:22:40,956
And she reported, "Mags kept saying,
'I'm going to die. I'm going to die.'"
1342
01:22:43,375 --> 01:22:46,835
That's what happens
to victims of manual strangulation
1343
01:22:46,836 --> 01:22:48,630
that survive the event
1344
01:22:49,464 --> 01:22:51,800
but dies from those injuries
within the hour.
1345
01:22:54,636 --> 01:22:58,682
But according to
Mags Corbett's autopsy report,
1346
01:22:59,265 --> 01:23:02,519
there were not visible marks
on the outside of her neck.
1347
01:23:05,563 --> 01:23:10,025
My expert says, "You don't die from
what's on the external part of the neck."
1348
01:23:10,026 --> 01:23:12,403
"You die from the injury
that can't be seen
1349
01:23:12,404 --> 01:23:13,947
on the inside of the neck."
1350
01:23:14,447 --> 01:23:15,573
This is important.
1351
01:23:16,783 --> 01:23:20,077
The state is making an argument
1352
01:23:20,078 --> 01:23:22,538
that Molly couldn't have been
strangled that night
1353
01:23:22,539 --> 01:23:26,001
because there's a lack
of injuries to her neck.
1354
01:23:26,710 --> 01:23:32,172
And he says to me, "Take a look
at the photograph of Molly Corbett
1355
01:23:32,173 --> 01:23:36,803
taken in the early morning hours
right outside the house by the police."
1356
01:23:38,847 --> 01:23:40,973
"Do you see that linear mark
1357
01:23:40,974 --> 01:23:43,935
on the left side of Molly's neck
below her ear?"
1358
01:23:44,436 --> 01:23:46,271
I hadn't noticed it before.
1359
01:23:46,813 --> 01:23:48,606
He says, "That's a nail dig."
1360
01:23:49,733 --> 01:23:52,569
It's what happens
during manual strangulation
1361
01:23:53,111 --> 01:23:56,614
when either the assailant's nails
1362
01:23:57,198 --> 01:23:59,117
dig into the side of the neck,
1363
01:23:59,826 --> 01:24:04,122
or sometimes the victim
is trying to pry the hand away.
1364
01:24:09,002 --> 01:24:10,335
And he says to me,
1365
01:24:10,336 --> 01:24:14,174
"Have you examined her pajamas
that she was wearing that night?"
1366
01:24:14,674 --> 01:24:16,801
"No. What am I looking for?"
1367
01:24:19,220 --> 01:24:22,307
"If the victim loses consciousness,
1368
01:24:23,308 --> 01:24:25,810
uh, they lose control of their bladder."
1369
01:24:26,436 --> 01:24:28,729
"I'll bet you dollars to donuts,
1370
01:24:28,730 --> 01:24:31,565
you're gonna go down there
and find a urine stain
1371
01:24:31,566 --> 01:24:33,777
in the crotch area of her pajamas."
1372
01:24:36,613 --> 01:24:37,614
And there it is.
1373
01:24:39,741 --> 01:24:46,288
I believe the only reason wife number two
was not victim number two
1374
01:24:46,289 --> 01:24:49,249
was because that night
her 65-year-old father
1375
01:24:49,250 --> 01:24:51,961
was there to intervene and stop it.
1376
01:24:54,964 --> 01:24:59,469
There are numerous expert witnesses
for the state and for the defense.
1377
01:25:00,303 --> 01:25:03,431
Every expert who looks
at the autopsy of Mags
1378
01:25:04,057 --> 01:25:07,227
agree that she did not die
of an asthma attack.
1379
01:25:08,645 --> 01:25:13,065
But our experts said
that you could not extrapolate from that
1380
01:25:13,066 --> 01:25:15,819
that Jason or anybody else had killed her.
1381
01:25:16,402 --> 01:25:20,365
That is a reckless conclusion
and is not supported by the evidence.
1382
01:25:21,741 --> 01:25:25,536
There is a long list
of possible health conditions
1383
01:25:25,537 --> 01:25:29,374
which would have looked like
an asthma attack in a known asthmatic.
1384
01:25:31,209 --> 01:25:34,796
However, the claims
that Jason must have strangled her
1385
01:25:35,296 --> 01:25:38,257
is not the kind of testimony
we want to get in front of a jury.
1386
01:25:38,258 --> 01:25:41,386
We're concerned that a jury hears that,
they may stop listening.
1387
01:25:43,388 --> 01:25:46,265
{\an8}Jack and Sarah are absolutely convinced
1388
01:25:46,266 --> 01:25:49,853
{\an8}that their testimony will fix everything.
1389
01:25:50,770 --> 01:25:53,356
{\an8}But even if they testify brilliantly
1390
01:25:54,107 --> 01:25:56,108
and carry their share of the load,
1391
01:25:56,109 --> 01:25:57,485
and more,
1392
01:25:58,862 --> 01:26:00,530
it could still go sideways.
1393
01:26:02,782 --> 01:26:07,412
And so, we are willing
to consider plea negotiations.
1394
01:26:18,590 --> 01:26:20,591
Today, Molly Corbett and Thomas Martens
1395
01:26:20,592 --> 01:26:22,551
appeared in a Davidson County courtroom
1396
01:26:22,552 --> 01:26:25,888
to plead for a reduced charge
of voluntary manslaughter.
1397
01:26:25,889 --> 01:26:30,184
{\an8}Molly Corbett, she pled no contest
to that charge of voluntary manslaughter.
1398
01:26:30,185 --> 01:26:34,354
{\an8}And Thomas Martens, he pled guilty
to the charge of voluntary manslaughter.
1399
01:26:34,355 --> 01:26:38,400
{\an8}Now, they also say his exemplary career
in the FBI in upholding the law
1400
01:26:38,401 --> 01:26:40,528
{\an8}should warrant an easier sentence.
1401
01:26:41,988 --> 01:26:44,531
I had no interest in taking a plea.
1402
01:26:44,532 --> 01:26:46,408
I was ready to go to trial.
1403
01:26:46,409 --> 01:26:49,913
I was ready for the truth to prevail,
and I was ready to fight back.
1404
01:26:51,497 --> 01:26:54,875
But the possibility of us losing at trial
1405
01:26:54,876 --> 01:26:59,588
and my father being incarcerated
for what would be the rest of his life,
1406
01:26:59,589 --> 01:27:02,133
I couldn't handle that responsibility.
1407
01:27:03,051 --> 01:27:05,510
The state and defense teams,
they're gonna go through
1408
01:27:05,511 --> 01:27:08,931
{\an8}all of the evidence from a case
that this area knows very well
1409
01:27:08,932 --> 01:27:10,307
{\an8}and present that to a judge.
1410
01:27:10,308 --> 01:27:14,479
{\an8}And then he'll make the determination
of how long their sentences should be.
1411
01:27:15,813 --> 01:27:18,815
My whole world has just been
flipped upside down again
1412
01:27:18,816 --> 01:27:22,027
for I don't know how many times
over the last eight years.
1413
01:27:22,028 --> 01:27:27,074
They could walk out at the end
of the sentencing hearing for time served.
1414
01:27:27,075 --> 01:27:28,993
It's just a complete injustice.
1415
01:27:29,869 --> 01:27:33,538
This is not what my dad deserves.
This isn't what I deserve.
1416
01:27:33,539 --> 01:27:35,541
It's not right. It's not fair.
1417
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,295
The court has been hearing
testimony from friends and neighbors
1418
01:27:40,296 --> 01:27:41,838
of Molly Martens Corbett
1419
01:27:41,839 --> 01:27:46,510
who said they were aware of arguments,
physical violence and controlling behavior
1420
01:27:46,511 --> 01:27:48,179
in the Corbetts' marriage.
1421
01:27:48,763 --> 01:27:52,224
Questions were raised about
the cause of death of his previous wife,
1422
01:27:52,225 --> 01:27:53,475
Margaret Corbett.
1423
01:27:53,476 --> 01:27:56,186
The defense brought in pathologists
who say it's possible
1424
01:27:56,187 --> 01:27:57,772
that someone could've killed her.
1425
01:27:58,982 --> 01:28:00,942
I feel like my dad's on trial.
1426
01:28:01,442 --> 01:28:05,280
And I feel like all the focus
is on my dad's character.
1427
01:28:07,073 --> 01:28:11,493
Molly's lawyers say
that there's one common denominator
1428
01:28:11,494 --> 01:28:14,788
in my birth mother's death
and my dad's death.
1429
01:28:14,789 --> 01:28:16,790
My birth mother was feeding me
1430
01:28:16,791 --> 01:28:19,918
'cause I woke up crying
the night that she died.
1431
01:28:19,919 --> 01:28:24,090
And the night that my dad died,
I woke up and went downstairs.
1432
01:28:25,925 --> 01:28:31,222
How could you blame me for the reason
both of my parents are dead?
1433
01:28:37,020 --> 01:28:39,147
That's when I realized that
1434
01:28:40,732 --> 01:28:43,400
this is just a case for the defense.
1435
01:28:43,401 --> 01:28:46,571
They don't know my da-- my dad,
and they don't want to know him.
1436
01:28:47,530 --> 01:28:52,451
As painful as that news
could have been for them to hear
1437
01:28:52,452 --> 01:28:55,370
that Mags didn't die of an asthma attack,
1438
01:28:55,371 --> 01:28:59,083
which is the story that
they have been fed their entire lives,
1439
01:28:59,709 --> 01:29:04,254
um, I guess I did have some hope
that this would, you know, cause a break
1440
01:29:04,255 --> 01:29:07,174
in... in their brainwashing.
1441
01:29:07,175 --> 01:29:08,384
But, um...
1442
01:29:10,636 --> 01:29:13,013
they continue to believe she did,
1443
01:29:13,014 --> 01:29:15,224
and maybe that's what
they have to believe.
1444
01:29:16,893 --> 01:29:20,897
I'm angry because I know
my dad didn't kill my mom.
1445
01:29:25,985 --> 01:29:28,821
{\an8}My Auntie Catherine was
in the house that night.
1446
01:29:31,783 --> 01:29:34,993
I do wish that
I had been asked to come over and testify,
1447
01:29:34,994 --> 01:29:39,332
because I'm the only one
who was there the night Mags passed.
1448
01:29:42,043 --> 01:29:44,378
Just after two o'clock,
I'd say, in the morning,
1449
01:29:44,379 --> 01:29:46,963
there was a knock on the bedroom door,
and it was Jason.
1450
01:29:46,964 --> 01:29:51,844
And he said, "Mags isn't well.
She's having a bad asthma attack."
1451
01:29:52,929 --> 01:29:55,348
Mags is in the kitchen holding her chest.
1452
01:29:56,099 --> 01:29:58,017
She had her inhaler in her hand.
1453
01:29:59,852 --> 01:30:04,148
I watched Jason
frantically do everything to save her.
1454
01:30:04,857 --> 01:30:08,985
Tom Marten was saying
that Mike and him had a conversation
1455
01:30:08,986 --> 01:30:12,614
about how Mag died on Jason's hands.
1456
01:30:12,615 --> 01:30:17,536
When we heard this, all my family
were enraged, my father especially.
1457
01:30:17,537 --> 01:30:20,164
He said, "No such thing happened."
1458
01:30:21,874 --> 01:30:24,960
"Until the day I die,
how would I ever believe Jason
1459
01:30:24,961 --> 01:30:26,712
had killed my daughter?"
1460
01:30:28,089 --> 01:30:30,173
They had a beautiful relationship.
1461
01:30:30,174 --> 01:30:31,926
They were a very loving couple.
1462
01:30:32,427 --> 01:30:34,220
And Michael loved Jason.
1463
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:35,805
He was our son.
1464
01:30:37,890 --> 01:30:41,935
We decided Michael would make
a statement to the solicitor.
1465
01:30:41,936 --> 01:30:44,521
My father passed away from cancer,
1466
01:30:44,522 --> 01:30:46,941
so we're speaking on behalf of my dad.
1467
01:30:48,276 --> 01:30:50,611
"Statement of Michael Fitzpatrick."
1468
01:30:52,071 --> 01:30:55,908
"I wish to put it on record
that I only ever met Thomas Martens once."
1469
01:30:56,409 --> 01:30:58,410
"I can also state categorically
1470
01:30:58,411 --> 01:31:01,121
that we never discussed
my daughter Margaret,
1471
01:31:01,122 --> 01:31:03,331
nor did I inform Thomas Martens
1472
01:31:03,332 --> 01:31:05,625
that Jason had killed
my daughter Margaret."
1473
01:31:05,626 --> 01:31:09,672
"Such statements by Thomas Martens
are totally and utterly untrue."
1474
01:31:13,843 --> 01:31:16,761
The Davidson County judge
will hear closing arguments
1475
01:31:16,762 --> 01:31:18,763
from both the state and defense,
1476
01:31:18,764 --> 01:31:21,809
which could lead
to a final decision on sentencing.
1477
01:31:22,310 --> 01:31:26,146
The last thing that happens
before the judge enters his sentence
1478
01:31:26,147 --> 01:31:29,858
is victim impact statements
from Jason's family members,
1479
01:31:29,859 --> 01:31:33,154
and Jack and Sarah are
the most important of who are gonna speak.
1480
01:31:39,494 --> 01:31:41,077
I've written this,
1481
01:31:41,078 --> 01:31:43,664
not just for my dad,
but for myself as well.
1482
01:31:47,710 --> 01:31:49,378
I'm 19 years of age.
1483
01:31:49,879 --> 01:31:52,088
I haven't been able
to speak out for so long,
1484
01:31:52,089 --> 01:31:56,302
and I've had to listen
to lies over the last eight years,
1485
01:31:56,802 --> 01:31:59,222
and this is my opportunity
to say the truth.
1486
01:32:01,933 --> 01:32:05,269
I am old enough,
and I am brave enough now.
1487
01:32:08,898 --> 01:32:11,608
I've always had
someone else tell my story,
1488
01:32:11,609 --> 01:32:15,363
and it's important to me
that I can tell my story myself.
1489
01:32:16,614 --> 01:32:19,241
I'm going to start listening
to "Chicken Fried."
1490
01:32:19,242 --> 01:32:21,493
Do, yeah. Oh, we put it on?
1491
01:32:21,494 --> 01:32:23,329
- We put it on?
- Yeah, do. Yeah, do.
1492
01:32:24,205 --> 01:32:25,915
We used to always play it together.
1493
01:32:29,043 --> 01:32:30,795
It felt like he was beside me.
1494
01:32:33,839 --> 01:32:36,132
You know I like my chicken fried
1495
01:32:36,133 --> 01:32:38,843
A cold beer on a Friday night
1496
01:32:38,844 --> 01:32:41,846
A pair of jeans that fit just right
1497
01:32:41,847 --> 01:32:46,602
And the radio up
1498
01:32:56,529 --> 01:33:00,907
Well, I was raised up
Beneath the shade of a Georgia Pine
1499
01:33:00,908 --> 01:33:02,701
And that's home you know
1500
01:33:02,702 --> 01:33:04,744
Sweet tea, pecan pie
1501
01:33:04,745 --> 01:33:06,621
And homemade wine
1502
01:33:06,622 --> 01:33:08,248
Where the peaches grow
1503
01:33:08,249 --> 01:33:12,295
And my house
It's not much to talk about
1504
01:33:13,754 --> 01:33:17,717
But it's filled with love
That's grown in southern ground
1505
01:33:18,676 --> 01:33:21,012
And a little bit of chicken fried
1506
01:33:21,554 --> 01:33:24,014
A cold beer on a Friday night
1507
01:33:24,015 --> 01:33:26,517
A pair of jeans that fit just right
1508
01:33:27,059 --> 01:33:30,103
And the radio up
1509
01:33:30,104 --> 01:33:31,606
I love to see the sun...
1510
01:33:32,648 --> 01:33:36,026
We are the strongest,
most united together.
1511
01:33:36,027 --> 01:33:37,527
- Yeah.
- You know?
1512
01:33:37,528 --> 01:33:39,739
- And we're gonna do this together.
- Yeah.
1513
01:33:40,323 --> 01:33:43,742
- The last word is yours.
- Look at me. All will be okay.
1514
01:33:43,743 --> 01:33:45,201
Time for crying is over.
1515
01:33:45,202 --> 01:33:48,872
Now it's time to get angry.
In there, head up, shoulders back.
1516
01:33:48,873 --> 01:33:51,499
- Fuck these people. They're nothing to us.
- Yeah.
1517
01:33:51,500 --> 01:33:53,918
Come on, Sarah, give it to us.
What are we gonna do?
1518
01:33:53,919 --> 01:33:55,587
Let's do this!
1519
01:33:55,588 --> 01:33:58,382
So, yeah.
1520
01:34:21,072 --> 01:34:22,864
{\an8}I used to pray at night when I was a kid
1521
01:34:22,865 --> 01:34:25,743
{\an8}that I would wake up
and it would all have been a bad dream.
1522
01:34:26,619 --> 01:34:28,953
{\an8}I've had to experience childhood,
adolescence,
1523
01:34:28,954 --> 01:34:32,040
{\an8}and the beginning of adulthood
without my dad there to guide me.
1524
01:34:32,041 --> 01:34:35,961
Your Honor, don't be fooled
by this mask of civility of Molly Martens.
1525
01:34:36,545 --> 01:34:40,298
She systematically broke me down
and drip-fed me un-truths.
1526
01:34:40,299 --> 01:34:41,341
I want to be clear.
1527
01:34:41,342 --> 01:34:44,553
I have never witnessed
my dad hit Molly Martens, ever.
1528
01:34:46,097 --> 01:34:47,847
Who is the victim here?
1529
01:34:47,848 --> 01:34:50,475
The Martens made my pain so much worse
1530
01:34:50,476 --> 01:34:53,604
by trying to have the world think
my dad was a bad person.
1531
01:34:54,313 --> 01:34:58,150
What Molly and Tom Martens took from me,
I can never get back.
1532
01:34:59,318 --> 01:35:03,197
I've seen my father's bloody handprint
on the door of his bedroom.
1533
01:35:03,906 --> 01:35:06,784
There was nothing voluntary
about his death.
1534
01:35:11,163 --> 01:35:14,333
He did not choose to leave us.
He was taken from us.
1535
01:35:15,251 --> 01:35:16,836
He was the victim.
1536
01:35:21,799 --> 01:35:23,758
Luckily, my dad picked
two wonderful parents
1537
01:35:23,759 --> 01:35:25,344
to guide me through life.
1538
01:35:25,845 --> 01:35:28,723
It hasn't been easy,
but having them made it a lot easier.
1539
01:35:30,641 --> 01:35:34,602
It was only when I went to live
with Tracey and David in Ireland
1540
01:35:34,603 --> 01:35:36,647
that I knew the true meaning of family.
1541
01:35:41,152 --> 01:35:44,446
Molly Corbett and Thomas Marten
are going back to prison
1542
01:35:44,447 --> 01:35:46,197
for the death of Jason Corbett.
1543
01:35:46,198 --> 01:35:51,077
This afternoon, the judge sentenced them
to 51 to 74 months...
1544
01:35:51,078 --> 01:35:53,621
{\an8}...when you factor in
the amount of time they already served
1545
01:35:53,622 --> 01:35:57,000
{\an8}when they were previously found guilty
for second degree murder,
1546
01:35:57,001 --> 01:35:59,210
{\an8}it only adds up
to about seven or eight months.
1547
01:35:59,211 --> 01:36:01,671
{\an8}The judge made it clear
it was difficult for him
1548
01:36:01,672 --> 01:36:03,840
{\an8}to find the truth in this case,
1549
01:36:03,841 --> 01:36:06,301
but made very clear
the kids were blameless.
1550
01:36:06,302 --> 01:36:07,678
That's Jack and Sarah.
1551
01:36:08,262 --> 01:36:11,848
I think Molly did the best job
she could do with raising those kids.
1552
01:36:11,849 --> 01:36:14,726
And it was just very difficult for her
1553
01:36:14,727 --> 01:36:19,731
to have to listen to them saying
that she somehow hurt them,
1554
01:36:19,732 --> 01:36:22,025
um, which I just don't believe is true.
1555
01:36:22,026 --> 01:36:26,654
I did not emotionally, or physically,
or in any way abuse my children.
1556
01:36:26,655 --> 01:36:30,785
The children have been used
as tools of evil.
1557
01:36:31,494 --> 01:36:34,370
Uh, they've been weaponized against me.
1558
01:36:34,371 --> 01:36:38,334
And, uh... they wanted to hurt me,
and they did.
1559
01:36:40,211 --> 01:36:42,086
Do I think those children know the truth?
1560
01:36:42,087 --> 01:36:45,173
I don't know. How do they remember
the times at the beach?
1561
01:36:45,174 --> 01:36:47,676
How do they remember
Molly as the school mother?
1562
01:36:48,260 --> 01:36:50,470
How do they remember
the meals that she made?
1563
01:36:50,471 --> 01:36:52,931
How do they remember the birthday parties?
1564
01:36:52,932 --> 01:36:56,267
How do they remember
her teaching them how to swim?
1565
01:36:56,268 --> 01:36:57,812
How do they remember?
1566
01:36:59,730 --> 01:37:05,528
How can you remember that and hate Molly?
1567
01:37:07,071 --> 01:37:11,909
{\an8}Today, Molly Corbett and Thomas Martens
will walk out of their prisons free.
1568
01:37:15,454 --> 01:37:19,707
I am not allowed to attempt
to have any contact with the kids.
1569
01:37:19,708 --> 01:37:21,334
That's a court order.
1570
01:37:21,335 --> 01:37:23,628
When it comes to, you know, my feelings
1571
01:37:23,629 --> 01:37:26,714
about whether
I consider myself their mother,
1572
01:37:26,715 --> 01:37:29,384
uh, that would cause them
immense pain right now.
1573
01:37:29,385 --> 01:37:32,387
I think that they hate the person
that they think that I am,
1574
01:37:32,388 --> 01:37:35,557
and they think of me as an evil abuser,
1575
01:37:35,558 --> 01:37:37,768
and they think their father was wonderful.
1576
01:37:38,352 --> 01:37:40,687
I certainly am not their mother now.
1577
01:37:40,688 --> 01:37:45,817
Will I always think of myself
as having been their mother?
1578
01:37:45,818 --> 01:37:48,112
Yes, I was. I was their mother.
1579
01:37:48,612 --> 01:37:52,992
I was the mother to the Jack and Sarah
that existed in another lifetime.
1580
01:37:54,994 --> 01:37:56,619
Sarah, how old are you?
1581
01:37:56,620 --> 01:37:57,538
Two.
1582
01:37:58,038 --> 01:37:58,955
Two and a half.
1583
01:37:58,956 --> 01:38:00,039
Yeah.
1584
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:01,207
How old are you?
1585
01:38:01,208 --> 01:38:03,501
- Four and a half.
- Are you sure you're not one and a half?
1586
01:38:03,502 --> 01:38:05,503
It is true that I loved Molly.
1587
01:38:05,504 --> 01:38:09,842
But just because I loved Molly
doesn't make her a good mother.
1588
01:38:10,426 --> 01:38:12,553
- Say, "Bye, camera."
- Bye, camera.
1589
01:38:14,638 --> 01:38:17,682
I have no feelings
towards her anymore. I don't...
1590
01:38:17,683 --> 01:38:18,767
I don't hate her.
1591
01:38:19,351 --> 01:38:22,104
I just don't want to give her
any power over me anymore.
1592
01:38:25,900 --> 01:38:26,859
Thank you.
1593
01:38:31,989 --> 01:38:34,949
I understand how a lot of people could say
1594
01:38:34,950 --> 01:38:37,410
he's been around people who loved his dad,
1595
01:38:37,411 --> 01:38:41,205
his dad's family,
his dad's friends for eight years,
1596
01:38:41,206 --> 01:38:43,417
that's why he's saying these things.
1597
01:38:46,462 --> 01:38:51,008
But I was always left to come up
with my own decisions, my own opinions.
1598
01:38:53,636 --> 01:38:56,596
My dad was my hero.
He was someone I looked up to.
1599
01:38:56,597 --> 01:38:57,806
He was my best friend.
1600
01:38:58,807 --> 01:39:00,309
{\an8}There's a gorgeous boy.
1601
01:39:01,435 --> 01:39:03,520
{\an8}Jack, blow Daddy a kiss.
1602
01:39:05,397 --> 01:39:07,148
{\an8}Good boy.
1603
01:39:07,149 --> 01:39:08,317
{\an8}Oh, another one.
1604
01:39:09,109 --> 01:39:10,819
What are you doing, Daddy?
1605
01:39:11,487 --> 01:39:12,905
Getting Sarah and Mum.
1606
01:39:13,697 --> 01:39:15,407
They're coming home to Jack's house.
1607
01:39:15,991 --> 01:39:18,577
Hi, Bubba! Give Daddy a kiss?
1608
01:39:19,703 --> 01:39:21,454
- Did you miss Daddy?
- Hi!
1609
01:39:21,455 --> 01:39:24,625
- See what Daddy bought ya.
- Oh, Daddy buy you presents?
1610
01:39:25,125 --> 01:39:28,212
My dad was an amazing person.
He was a good dad.
1611
01:39:29,421 --> 01:39:31,339
He was, like, my biggest cheerleader.
1612
01:39:31,340 --> 01:39:32,549
Go, Sarah!
1613
01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:41,058
I know my dad and my mom
would not want me to sit around upset.
1614
01:39:42,518 --> 01:39:46,229
So, you just have to keep
going forward and make them proud,
1615
01:39:46,230 --> 01:39:49,024
and live the life
that they wanted you to live.
1616
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,614
My dad loved me and Jack.
1617
01:39:56,615 --> 01:39:58,616
We were his everything, and I know that.
1618
01:39:58,617 --> 01:40:02,079
And I'm really proud to say
that I am Jason Corbett's daughter.
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