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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,524 --> 00:00:04,569 - We knew that a fire had been set 2 00:00:04,613 --> 00:00:06,223 at the residence of Jim DiMaggio. 3 00:00:06,267 --> 00:00:08,791 - DiMaggio is suspected of setting fire to his home. 4 00:00:08,834 --> 00:00:11,054 - There was a body in the garage. 5 00:00:11,098 --> 00:00:13,883 That turned out to be Hannah's mother. 6 00:00:13,926 --> 00:00:16,015 They assumed that he had taken Hannah with him. 7 00:00:18,105 --> 00:00:20,324 - James DiMaggio is suspected of killing 8 00:00:20,368 --> 00:00:23,327 a woman and abducting her 16-year-old daughter. 9 00:00:23,371 --> 00:00:25,416 - Her father issued some statements 10 00:00:25,460 --> 00:00:27,288 directly to DiMaggio. 11 00:00:27,331 --> 00:00:28,854 - The damage is done. 12 00:00:28,898 --> 00:00:30,639 I'm begging you to let my daughter go. 13 00:00:30,682 --> 00:00:32,423 You've taken everything else. 14 00:00:32,467 --> 00:00:35,905 - They issued an AMBER Alert throughout initially California 15 00:00:35,948 --> 00:00:37,602 and then up the Pacific Northwest 16 00:00:37,646 --> 00:00:39,865 as the search area grew. 17 00:00:39,909 --> 00:00:41,824 Soon after the description of the car went out, 18 00:00:41,867 --> 00:00:44,783 the abandoned vehicle was spotted near Cascade, Idaho. 19 00:00:44,827 --> 00:00:47,264 It's a very remote area. 20 00:00:47,308 --> 00:00:49,136 We had aviation assets flying around. 21 00:00:49,179 --> 00:00:51,312 The pilot said there's an adult male down there 22 00:00:51,355 --> 00:00:55,055 and what we think to be teenage blond-haired girl. 23 00:00:55,098 --> 00:00:57,100 Somebody who finds themselves in this horrible set 24 00:00:57,144 --> 00:00:59,450 of circumstances through no fault of their own, 25 00:00:59,494 --> 00:01:02,018 my job is to go there and get her back. 26 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:04,673 And then I hear a small-caliber firearm discharge. 27 00:01:07,980 --> 00:01:11,114 - In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines. 28 00:01:14,161 --> 00:01:15,597 Drug busts, 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,469 mob stings, 30 00:01:18,513 --> 00:01:20,210 terrorist takedowns. 31 00:01:20,254 --> 00:01:22,343 - Get down! Get down! 32 00:01:22,386 --> 00:01:24,736 - We understand why people want to tell stories about us. 33 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:25,781 - Mark it. 34 00:01:25,824 --> 00:01:27,261 - Freeze! - FBI. 35 00:01:27,304 --> 00:01:28,958 - FBI! - Action! 36 00:01:29,001 --> 00:01:31,003 - But they don't know the half of it. 37 00:01:32,570 --> 00:01:34,703 What really goes down, 38 00:01:34,746 --> 00:01:36,966 we save that for each other 39 00:01:37,009 --> 00:01:39,142 when we're talking agent to agent. 40 00:01:42,102 --> 00:01:45,279 This is "FBI True." 41 00:01:56,768 --> 00:01:58,857 - So, Chuck, I know that you were involved 42 00:01:58,901 --> 00:02:01,251 with the Hannah Anderson kidnapping case. 43 00:02:01,295 --> 00:02:02,861 - Yep. 44 00:02:02,905 --> 00:02:05,081 - It's the end of the summer, you're in Virginia. 45 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:06,778 I know it's sticky and warm. Where are you? 46 00:02:06,822 --> 00:02:08,519 What's going on? 47 00:02:08,562 --> 00:02:12,044 - Kristy Kottis is a 24-year veteran of the FBI. 48 00:02:12,088 --> 00:02:15,135 She worked gangs, crimes against children, 49 00:02:15,178 --> 00:02:17,485 as well as human and drug trafficking. 50 00:02:17,528 --> 00:02:19,182 Kottis was the supervisor 51 00:02:19,226 --> 00:02:21,228 of the FBI's threat response squad, 52 00:02:21,271 --> 00:02:23,926 overseeing the Bureau's response to terrorism threats 53 00:02:23,969 --> 00:02:25,275 in New York City. 54 00:02:25,319 --> 00:02:26,755 - It's a Friday afternoon. 55 00:02:26,798 --> 00:02:29,497 My little sister and her husband and three kids were 56 00:02:29,540 --> 00:02:32,108 visiting from Germany, and my mom was in town. 57 00:02:32,152 --> 00:02:34,458 And my phone rang. 58 00:02:34,502 --> 00:02:36,939 - Chuck Davis was a decorated Air Force vet 59 00:02:36,982 --> 00:02:39,855 when he joined the FBI in 1998. 60 00:02:39,898 --> 00:02:42,249 He was a bomb technician, freefall jumper, 61 00:02:42,292 --> 00:02:44,555 and SWAT team leader. 62 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:47,210 He ran hostage rescue teams before retiring 63 00:02:47,254 --> 00:02:49,647 as supervisory special agent in Denver. 64 00:02:49,691 --> 00:02:53,260 - So got in the car and ran code from Northern Virginia 65 00:02:53,303 --> 00:02:55,305 down to Richmond airport, which is where we have 66 00:02:55,349 --> 00:02:57,438 our alert bird on standby. 67 00:02:57,481 --> 00:02:59,483 - When you go code, that's lights and sirens. 68 00:02:59,527 --> 00:03:02,138 What are you learning at this point about the case? 69 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:03,618 What do you know? 70 00:03:03,661 --> 00:03:06,055 - We had heard of this case earlier in the week. 71 00:03:06,098 --> 00:03:08,100 It was a kidnapping case, but it started 72 00:03:08,144 --> 00:03:09,928 as an arson investigation. 73 00:03:09,972 --> 00:03:12,888 We knew that a fire had been set at the residence 74 00:03:12,931 --> 00:03:14,368 of Jim DiMaggio. 75 00:03:14,411 --> 00:03:16,935 - DiMaggio is suspected of setting fire 76 00:03:16,978 --> 00:03:21,636 to his home 65 miles east of San Diego on Sunday. 77 00:03:21,679 --> 00:03:25,466 - And when the fire department responded to the residence, 78 00:03:25,509 --> 00:03:28,251 there was a body in the garage. 79 00:03:28,295 --> 00:03:30,775 That body turned out to be Hannah's mother, 80 00:03:30,819 --> 00:03:34,170 tortured, but obvious signs of a struggle. 81 00:03:34,214 --> 00:03:37,565 - The victim in that structure has been identified 82 00:03:37,608 --> 00:03:39,262 as Christina Anderson. 83 00:03:39,305 --> 00:03:42,744 She's a 44-year-old Lakeside resident. 84 00:03:42,787 --> 00:03:45,877 And it has been determined that Ms. Anderson has been murdered. 85 00:03:45,921 --> 00:03:47,401 - There was an arson investigation, 86 00:03:47,444 --> 00:03:50,317 and they determined that somebody had set the house 87 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,971 on fire utilizing devices on timers 88 00:03:53,015 --> 00:03:56,236 and they had an intact device that they could analyze. 89 00:03:56,279 --> 00:03:58,454 And so that led them to believe then 90 00:03:58,499 --> 00:04:00,979 that Mr. DiMaggio was a prime suspect 91 00:04:01,023 --> 00:04:04,331 in the murder of Hannah's mom. 92 00:04:04,374 --> 00:04:06,420 And they knew there was another body in there. 93 00:04:06,463 --> 00:04:09,161 Turned out to be her brother in the house. 94 00:04:09,205 --> 00:04:11,773 - Police say the charred remains found inside the home 95 00:04:11,816 --> 00:04:13,644 of DiMaggio are consistent with that 96 00:04:13,688 --> 00:04:15,037 of an eight-year-old boy, 97 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,560 the same age, of course, as young Ethan. 98 00:04:17,605 --> 00:04:20,129 - DiMaggio was a close family friend 99 00:04:20,172 --> 00:04:21,652 of the Andersons, right? 100 00:04:21,696 --> 00:04:22,871 - That is correct. 101 00:04:22,914 --> 00:04:24,829 - They called him Uncle Jim. - Yes. 102 00:04:24,873 --> 00:04:26,918 They also learned that at some point before the day 103 00:04:26,962 --> 00:04:29,443 of the fire, DiMaggio apparently took 104 00:04:29,486 --> 00:04:33,403 Hannah and some of her friends on a trip, 105 00:04:33,447 --> 00:04:35,840 and he said something to the effect that, 106 00:04:35,884 --> 00:04:39,017 if you and I were the same age, Hannah, I would-- 107 00:04:39,061 --> 00:04:40,671 I would want to date you. 108 00:04:42,630 --> 00:04:45,197 - Hm. - And so since Hannah was 109 00:04:45,241 --> 00:04:47,765 last seen where Mr. DiMaggio picked her up 110 00:04:47,808 --> 00:04:49,637 at cheerleading practice, they assumed that 111 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,769 he had taken Hannah with him. 112 00:04:51,813 --> 00:04:54,076 - An intense manhunt is underway this morning 113 00:04:54,119 --> 00:04:56,078 for a California man. 114 00:04:56,121 --> 00:04:59,342 James DiMaggio is suspected of killing a woman and her son 115 00:04:59,386 --> 00:05:02,084 and abducting her 16-year-old daughter. 116 00:05:02,127 --> 00:05:05,305 - They issued an AMBER Alert throughout initially California 117 00:05:05,348 --> 00:05:07,219 and then up the Pacific Northwest 118 00:05:07,263 --> 00:05:09,439 as the search area grew. 119 00:05:09,483 --> 00:05:11,485 - So we just learned that the AMBER Alert has 120 00:05:11,528 --> 00:05:14,183 been extended to Oregon and Washington state. 121 00:05:14,226 --> 00:05:15,706 - Any time there's a child involved, 122 00:05:15,750 --> 00:05:18,622 it ups the ante considerably, and as a result of that, 123 00:05:18,666 --> 00:05:22,582 we're super focused on getting all the guys and gals 124 00:05:22,626 --> 00:05:24,541 and the whole team on the airplane 125 00:05:24,585 --> 00:05:27,022 and getting on our way as quickly as we possibly can. 126 00:05:27,065 --> 00:05:29,154 - Now you're really in focus. 127 00:05:29,198 --> 00:05:31,635 Where was Hannah's father during all of this? 128 00:05:31,679 --> 00:05:35,422 - He was away from the family in Tennessee on, like, 129 00:05:35,465 --> 00:05:39,382 a three-month work trip. 130 00:05:39,426 --> 00:05:43,865 But as soon as it became apparent that DiMaggio had 131 00:05:43,908 --> 00:05:46,955 kidnapped Hannah, he issued some statements 132 00:05:46,998 --> 00:05:49,610 directly to DiMaggio. 133 00:05:49,653 --> 00:05:54,571 - Jim, I can't fathom what you were thinking. 134 00:05:54,615 --> 00:05:57,574 The damage is done. 135 00:05:57,618 --> 00:05:59,402 I'm begging you to let my daughter go. 136 00:05:59,446 --> 00:06:01,926 You've taken everything else. 137 00:06:01,970 --> 00:06:05,365 Hannah, we all love you very much. 138 00:06:05,408 --> 00:06:07,671 If you have a chance, you take it. 139 00:06:07,715 --> 00:06:09,107 You run. 140 00:06:09,151 --> 00:06:10,587 You'll be found. 141 00:06:10,631 --> 00:06:12,633 - So there were numerous sightings. 142 00:06:12,676 --> 00:06:15,636 - Meanwhile, a sighting at this California border checkpoint 143 00:06:15,679 --> 00:06:18,465 not far from DiMaggio's home appears to confirm 144 00:06:18,508 --> 00:06:20,467 that Hannah is alive. 145 00:06:20,510 --> 00:06:22,730 - A San Diego County sheriff's department spokeswoman said 146 00:06:22,773 --> 00:06:24,906 the 16-year-old was photographed with suspect 147 00:06:24,949 --> 00:06:27,474 James Lee DiMaggio in his Nissan Versa 148 00:06:27,517 --> 00:06:29,650 at a westbound Old Highway 8 checkpoint 149 00:06:29,693 --> 00:06:32,000 shortly after midnight on August 4th. 150 00:06:32,043 --> 00:06:34,306 - Soon after the description of the car went out, 151 00:06:34,350 --> 00:06:36,874 the abandoned vehicle was spotted near Cascade, Idaho, 152 00:06:36,918 --> 00:06:40,704 by the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness. 153 00:06:40,748 --> 00:06:43,881 - San Diego officials announced a major new lead. 154 00:06:43,925 --> 00:06:49,060 - The blue Nissan Versa was discovered covered in brush. 155 00:06:49,104 --> 00:06:51,062 - The license plates had been removed, 156 00:06:51,106 --> 00:06:53,717 and whoever parked the car there attempted to hide it. 157 00:06:53,761 --> 00:06:55,545 - Local law enforcement in the area 158 00:06:55,589 --> 00:06:58,287 were able to confirm through the VIN number 159 00:06:58,330 --> 00:07:01,812 that the vehicle did belong to DiMaggio. 160 00:07:01,856 --> 00:07:03,901 - There were a number of sightings and false leads, 161 00:07:03,945 --> 00:07:05,860 but this sort of at least pinpointed that 162 00:07:05,903 --> 00:07:07,949 he at least was here 163 00:07:07,992 --> 00:07:10,952 and that's what got us moving in that direction. 164 00:07:10,995 --> 00:07:14,303 The investigators on scene did a search of the vehicle 165 00:07:14,346 --> 00:07:17,654 and found some receipts from, I believe it was a Walmart down 166 00:07:17,698 --> 00:07:20,091 in San Diego, California, and they identified 167 00:07:20,135 --> 00:07:21,702 the items that he had purchased. 168 00:07:21,745 --> 00:07:23,138 And it was some camping supplies 169 00:07:23,181 --> 00:07:25,227 to include a tent, blue tent, 170 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:29,187 and one very odd fact said a gray house cat. 171 00:07:29,231 --> 00:07:30,841 And I thought to myself, why would anybody 172 00:07:30,885 --> 00:07:32,452 even put that in there? 173 00:07:32,495 --> 00:07:34,497 At the time, I thought it was really kind of silly, 174 00:07:34,541 --> 00:07:38,196 then sometime that, either Thursday or Friday, 175 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,374 a group of horseback riders 176 00:07:42,418 --> 00:07:46,335 were riding way back into the wilderness area 177 00:07:46,378 --> 00:07:48,206 and they came across a gentleman 178 00:07:48,250 --> 00:07:51,253 and a young girl who they said were ill-equipped to be 179 00:07:51,296 --> 00:07:53,124 in the area where they were. 180 00:07:53,168 --> 00:07:57,259 She was described as having on sweatpants and tennis shoes, 181 00:07:57,302 --> 00:07:59,783 and when they returned to their house-- 182 00:07:59,827 --> 00:08:01,611 - Just had a gut feeling about him. 183 00:08:01,655 --> 00:08:03,700 - The AMBER Alert was on the television, 184 00:08:03,744 --> 00:08:06,181 and I told my wife, I said that is that girl 185 00:08:06,224 --> 00:08:07,617 we seen on the mountain. 186 00:08:07,661 --> 00:08:09,314 - She did appear frightened, but I thought 187 00:08:09,358 --> 00:08:11,752 it was a fear of the horses. 188 00:08:11,795 --> 00:08:13,275 - I have to stop you right there. 189 00:08:13,318 --> 00:08:16,539 So here are these couples pony riding in the woods, 190 00:08:16,582 --> 00:08:19,194 and they come across a 16-year-old girl 191 00:08:19,237 --> 00:08:21,501 and basically Grandpa Monkey with her. 192 00:08:21,544 --> 00:08:25,548 And, you know, how does that even happen? 193 00:08:25,592 --> 00:08:28,332 - So the Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness area 194 00:08:28,377 --> 00:08:30,771 is something on the order of 2.3 million acres. 195 00:08:32,642 --> 00:08:34,991 It's a very remote area, 196 00:08:35,036 --> 00:08:38,605 and the fact that the two of those parties crossed paths 197 00:08:38,648 --> 00:08:40,215 is very fortuitous for us. 198 00:08:40,258 --> 00:08:42,304 - I've had cases also like that where 199 00:08:42,347 --> 00:08:45,481 it's just, like, you can't even calculate the odds of that. 200 00:08:45,525 --> 00:08:46,874 - As you well know, you need a start point 201 00:08:46,917 --> 00:08:48,440 into something that big. 202 00:08:48,484 --> 00:08:50,747 And so I think that was the linchpin that sort of 203 00:08:50,790 --> 00:08:53,097 got us involved in this case. 204 00:08:56,971 --> 00:09:02,542 We Landed About 11:00 at night and drove up to Cascade. 205 00:09:02,585 --> 00:09:04,979 The next morning, people just start streaming in, 206 00:09:05,022 --> 00:09:07,503 all the various jurisdictions, all the people that are there, 207 00:09:07,547 --> 00:09:09,810 you know, to try and figure out how we're going to best 208 00:09:09,853 --> 00:09:12,073 slice up this giant pie. 209 00:09:12,116 --> 00:09:14,597 The chances of us in 2.3 million acres 210 00:09:14,641 --> 00:09:16,904 coming across those folks is fairly slim. 211 00:09:18,340 --> 00:09:20,037 Logical investigation said, OK, 212 00:09:20,081 --> 00:09:21,778 he was last seen here by the hikers. 213 00:09:21,822 --> 00:09:23,606 How far could two of them travel on foot? 214 00:09:23,650 --> 00:09:25,260 Where might they be going? 215 00:09:25,303 --> 00:09:27,784 There was a river that had river rafting, 216 00:09:27,828 --> 00:09:30,787 like river guides, and so we thought, oh, 217 00:09:30,831 --> 00:09:32,528 maybe he's working his way there, 218 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:33,660 and he's going to get on one of these rafts 219 00:09:33,703 --> 00:09:35,183 and float down the river. 220 00:09:35,226 --> 00:09:37,664 So the idea was we were going to flood the area 221 00:09:37,707 --> 00:09:40,884 with as many resources as possible. 222 00:09:40,928 --> 00:09:42,973 So we had other FBI tactical assets there. 223 00:09:43,017 --> 00:09:45,106 We had, I believe, the San Francisco SWAT team, 224 00:09:45,149 --> 00:09:47,935 Salt Lake SWAT team, and some other resources. 225 00:09:47,978 --> 00:09:51,329 And so the bosses all got together, 226 00:09:51,373 --> 00:09:53,505 and we just started slicing the area up 227 00:09:53,549 --> 00:09:55,246 based on where the car was 228 00:09:55,290 --> 00:09:57,858 and where they were last sighted. 229 00:09:57,901 --> 00:10:00,643 My team, which was me and four other guys, 230 00:10:00,687 --> 00:10:03,820 we were assigned an area called Morehead Lake, 231 00:10:03,864 --> 00:10:06,736 and it was an Alpine lake up in the mountains 232 00:10:06,780 --> 00:10:08,912 and our job was just going to be 233 00:10:08,956 --> 00:10:11,349 to get up there and search the area 234 00:10:11,393 --> 00:10:13,003 and see if we could find anything. 235 00:10:13,047 --> 00:10:15,353 - Did we have at this point-- I know you guys have all kinds 236 00:10:15,397 --> 00:10:18,008 of things in your toy box, something that allows you 237 00:10:18,052 --> 00:10:19,749 to have an aerial peekaboo? 238 00:10:19,793 --> 00:10:22,056 - We had Bureau resources, aviation assets, 239 00:10:22,099 --> 00:10:24,058 and they were just generally flying around 240 00:10:24,101 --> 00:10:26,451 the River of No Return Wilderness. 241 00:10:26,495 --> 00:10:30,020 And they were at Morehead Lake, 242 00:10:30,064 --> 00:10:33,023 and they saw a tent on the ground. 243 00:10:33,067 --> 00:10:35,547 We knew that DiMaggio had purchased a blue tent-- 244 00:10:35,591 --> 00:10:37,158 - Right. - At Walmart. 245 00:10:37,201 --> 00:10:38,768 We asked the pilot if he could tell 246 00:10:38,812 --> 00:10:39,943 what the color of the tent was, and he said, 247 00:10:39,987 --> 00:10:41,553 "Yes, it's a blue tent." 248 00:10:41,597 --> 00:10:43,730 Well, over the next couple of minutes, 249 00:10:43,773 --> 00:10:45,557 they said there's an adult male down there 250 00:10:45,601 --> 00:10:49,649 and what we think to be a teenage blond-haired girl. 251 00:10:50,954 --> 00:10:52,695 Things are going really, really well, 252 00:10:52,739 --> 00:10:55,045 and then the pilot comes across the radio one more time 253 00:10:55,089 --> 00:10:57,874 and says, "Oh, I also see a house cat"-- 254 00:10:57,918 --> 00:10:59,397 a piece of information that I thought 255 00:10:59,441 --> 00:11:01,573 was absolutely ridiculous-- 256 00:11:01,617 --> 00:11:05,186 DiMaggio, Hannah, and a gray cat. 257 00:11:05,229 --> 00:11:07,101 And so now we have all those things 258 00:11:07,144 --> 00:11:08,624 pointing us to that location. 259 00:11:08,668 --> 00:11:09,799 That's where we need to go, 260 00:11:09,843 --> 00:11:11,235 and it trips from an area search 261 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:12,367 to a deliberate hostage rescue. 262 00:11:16,414 --> 00:11:18,416 - From this point forward, my team became primary 263 00:11:18,460 --> 00:11:21,550 on getting to Morehead Lake and arresting Mr. DiMaggio. 264 00:11:25,293 --> 00:11:28,383 They took the five folks that were originally with me. 265 00:11:28,426 --> 00:11:30,472 They gave us a canine and canine operator 266 00:11:30,515 --> 00:11:31,995 and then five snipers. 267 00:11:32,039 --> 00:11:34,128 So it was a total of 11 of us. - Wow. 268 00:11:34,171 --> 00:11:35,477 - One small helicopter-- I believe 269 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,435 it was an Airbus Air Star. 270 00:11:37,479 --> 00:11:39,176 Four people were in that one, and the rest of us were 271 00:11:39,220 --> 00:11:41,962 in a Customs and Border Patrol Black Hawk helicopter. 272 00:11:42,005 --> 00:11:44,529 Immediately, the point man went and started talking 273 00:11:44,573 --> 00:11:46,314 with the helicopter pilots to identify 274 00:11:46,357 --> 00:11:49,404 a landing zone that we could put helicopters in. 275 00:11:49,447 --> 00:11:51,145 Now that's a tricky business, you know. 276 00:11:51,188 --> 00:11:53,408 You don't want to alert DiMaggio to your presence. 277 00:11:53,451 --> 00:11:55,497 You know, you're going to offset considerable distance 278 00:11:55,540 --> 00:11:57,151 so they don't see and preferably 279 00:11:57,194 --> 00:11:58,630 don't hear the helicopters. 280 00:11:58,674 --> 00:12:01,024 Everybody's just focused, hyper focused 281 00:12:01,068 --> 00:12:02,547 on making sure that they have what they need 282 00:12:02,591 --> 00:12:05,333 to get there and do the job. 283 00:12:15,647 --> 00:12:17,954 And I remember we're coming in, and the pilots 284 00:12:17,998 --> 00:12:19,477 are like, OK, 30 seconds. 285 00:12:19,521 --> 00:12:20,783 And we're like, OK, 30 seconds. 286 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:27,311 And then we see where we were supposed to land, 287 00:12:27,355 --> 00:12:29,531 and then we just keep going. 288 00:12:29,574 --> 00:12:30,967 They said we can't land there. 289 00:12:31,011 --> 00:12:32,490 - They just decided at that point-- 290 00:12:32,534 --> 00:12:33,709 - It was untenable for the large helicopter. 291 00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:34,797 They couldn't get the helicopter 292 00:12:34,841 --> 00:12:36,059 down onto the ground. 293 00:12:36,103 --> 00:12:37,234 - Are you feeling anxious at this point? 294 00:12:37,278 --> 00:12:38,583 - Absolutely, right? 295 00:12:38,627 --> 00:12:40,803 We need to get moving. 296 00:12:40,847 --> 00:12:42,674 We continue just to fly, and they picked a spot 297 00:12:42,718 --> 00:12:44,285 on the ground somewhere else. 298 00:12:44,328 --> 00:12:48,942 They landed us on a small ridge off of a summit. 299 00:12:54,861 --> 00:12:56,819 And for the first 45 minutes to an hour, 300 00:12:56,863 --> 00:12:58,603 it was straight uphill. 301 00:12:58,647 --> 00:13:01,824 Very, very difficult. We're in camouflage uniforms. 302 00:13:01,868 --> 00:13:05,697 You'll have body armor, a rifle, pistol, 303 00:13:05,741 --> 00:13:08,004 helmet, night vision goggles, ammunition, 304 00:13:08,048 --> 00:13:10,877 and then various other types of equipment 305 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,356 based on what your role is. 306 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,620 At that time, I weighed about 200 pounds, 307 00:13:15,664 --> 00:13:17,797 and with all my tactical assault kit 308 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,235 and I weighed about 265, so pretty hefty. 309 00:13:21,278 --> 00:13:23,628 And it was warm, and in the first minute and a half, 310 00:13:23,672 --> 00:13:26,501 you're just like, oh, man, this is gonna really be hard. 311 00:13:26,544 --> 00:13:28,155 - Hm. - People don't understand. 312 00:13:28,198 --> 00:13:29,634 It's like, well, why is HRT going out to Colorado 313 00:13:29,678 --> 00:13:31,114 to the mountains to train? 314 00:13:31,158 --> 00:13:32,550 Well, if I have to hike in the mountains, 315 00:13:32,594 --> 00:13:33,987 I need to be in the mountains to train. 316 00:13:34,030 --> 00:13:35,292 - Right. 317 00:13:35,336 --> 00:13:36,728 - And so you fall back on that training. 318 00:13:36,772 --> 00:13:38,208 In the end, it all falls back to the training. 319 00:13:38,252 --> 00:13:40,036 And so you're like, yep, this is gonna suck. 320 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,429 I know it's gonna suck. 321 00:13:41,472 --> 00:13:42,952 But, hey, I've trained, and I can do this. 322 00:13:42,996 --> 00:13:44,824 And you just put your head down and go. 323 00:13:46,042 --> 00:13:48,392 So the point man immediately calculated that we had 324 00:13:48,436 --> 00:13:51,004 about three miles to move over land. 325 00:13:53,093 --> 00:13:57,010 It's Now about 3:00 in the afternoon, 326 00:13:57,053 --> 00:14:00,317 And we know we have till 5:00, 5:30 before it gets dark 327 00:14:00,361 --> 00:14:02,145 and we can anticipate them getting 328 00:14:02,189 --> 00:14:03,755 into the tent for the evening. 329 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:04,887 - Does this feel different because it's a child? 330 00:14:04,931 --> 00:14:06,149 - Absolutely. 331 00:14:06,193 --> 00:14:07,324 A lot of these abduction cases don't 332 00:14:07,368 --> 00:14:08,499 end favorably for children. 333 00:14:08,543 --> 00:14:09,805 - You have a daughter. 334 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:11,067 You have family. 335 00:14:11,111 --> 00:14:12,373 What are you thinking at this point? 336 00:14:12,416 --> 00:14:14,679 - My job is to go there and get her back. 337 00:14:14,723 --> 00:14:17,291 And as a parent, I think of my daughter. 338 00:14:17,334 --> 00:14:19,771 And I was like, well, you know, I'd want someone 339 00:14:19,815 --> 00:14:21,643 to come help find my daughter if she 340 00:14:21,686 --> 00:14:22,862 was in a situation like this. 341 00:14:22,905 --> 00:14:24,080 So, yeah, it becomes personal. 342 00:14:24,124 --> 00:14:25,560 There's a time and a place 343 00:14:25,603 --> 00:14:26,778 when you think about your family, 344 00:14:26,822 --> 00:14:29,346 but you've gotta keep your world small. 345 00:14:29,390 --> 00:14:31,174 You have to focus on the task at hand. 346 00:14:31,218 --> 00:14:33,960 Bottom line is there's only a few things that I can control. 347 00:14:34,003 --> 00:14:36,223 That's my thoughts, my words, and my actions, 348 00:14:36,266 --> 00:14:38,486 and everything else is superfluous. 349 00:14:38,529 --> 00:14:40,270 So we establish what's called the ORP, 350 00:14:40,314 --> 00:14:41,793 an objective rally point. 351 00:14:41,837 --> 00:14:44,405 That's the last position that, collectively, 352 00:14:44,448 --> 00:14:47,190 we were all together prior to moving to the crisis site. 353 00:14:47,234 --> 00:14:48,496 - And were you getting updates? - Yep. 354 00:14:48,539 --> 00:14:49,889 So the airplane's still overhead 355 00:14:49,932 --> 00:14:51,194 providing us with that sort of 356 00:14:51,238 --> 00:14:52,935 real-time tactical intelligence. 357 00:14:52,979 --> 00:14:54,676 - So can you see the plane? You? 358 00:14:54,719 --> 00:14:56,112 - Oh, yeah. - OK. 359 00:14:56,156 --> 00:14:57,157 So do you think they can see the plane? 360 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,158 Are you wondering? - Yeah. 361 00:14:58,201 --> 00:15:00,900 Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yes. 362 00:15:00,943 --> 00:15:02,727 - What kind of things are they telling you? 363 00:15:02,771 --> 00:15:05,034 - They're telling us, like, where the tent is on the lake, 364 00:15:05,078 --> 00:15:07,080 what DiMaggio is doing, 365 00:15:07,123 --> 00:15:09,212 what Hannah's doing, sort of like, 366 00:15:09,256 --> 00:15:11,127 OK, he's down by the lake 367 00:15:11,171 --> 00:15:12,781 and Hannah's next to him at the lake. 368 00:15:12,824 --> 00:15:14,478 And then he's back at the tent, 369 00:15:14,522 --> 00:15:17,046 and just painting a picture for us to better understand 370 00:15:17,090 --> 00:15:19,005 what we're coming into when we get to the crisis site. 371 00:15:21,137 --> 00:15:22,747 The sniper team leader and I kind of 372 00:15:22,791 --> 00:15:24,097 developed a hasty plan. 373 00:15:24,140 --> 00:15:26,447 So the snipers were gonna move to the west side 374 00:15:26,490 --> 00:15:28,318 of the lake and see if they could establish 375 00:15:28,362 --> 00:15:31,495 sniper observer positions on the west side of the lake 376 00:15:31,539 --> 00:15:33,845 looking back across the lake to the north, 377 00:15:33,889 --> 00:15:36,848 to give them line of sight to provide intelligence. 378 00:15:36,892 --> 00:15:38,720 And then my group, we were going 379 00:15:38,763 --> 00:15:41,462 to continue moving east below the lake and then move 380 00:15:41,505 --> 00:15:44,465 from south to north, up to the lake. 381 00:15:44,508 --> 00:15:46,510 There is nothing like a guy on a sniper scope 382 00:15:46,554 --> 00:15:50,297 that's covering your advance to the target, right? 383 00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:52,734 So if there's a threat to Hannah at this point, 384 00:15:52,777 --> 00:15:54,344 or a threat to one of us-- - Mm-hmm. 385 00:15:54,388 --> 00:15:56,738 - They can solve that problem very, very easily. 386 00:15:56,781 --> 00:15:58,174 If you were going to devise 387 00:15:58,218 --> 00:16:00,307 the worst possible hostage rescue, 388 00:16:00,350 --> 00:16:03,440 this would be a good contender because it was daylight, 389 00:16:03,484 --> 00:16:05,834 uphill, 390 00:16:05,877 --> 00:16:08,184 to a potentially armed and dangerous subject. 391 00:16:08,228 --> 00:16:10,273 We'd covered maybe 100 meters or so, 392 00:16:10,317 --> 00:16:11,883 and then I heard over the radio, 393 00:16:11,927 --> 00:16:13,624 "Freeze, freeze, freeze." 394 00:16:13,668 --> 00:16:16,192 If you're in mid-step, you don't even finish that step. 395 00:16:16,236 --> 00:16:19,674 The sniper team leader is relaying to me over the radio 396 00:16:19,717 --> 00:16:23,330 that, hey, DiMaggio is away from the campsite. 397 00:16:23,373 --> 00:16:26,986 He looks like he's collecting firewood. 398 00:16:27,029 --> 00:16:29,292 And so we stop what we're doing. 399 00:16:29,336 --> 00:16:31,207 We all take positions of cover. 400 00:16:31,251 --> 00:16:32,904 30 meters through the trees and through the underbrush, 401 00:16:32,948 --> 00:16:35,211 I can see this movement where DiMaggio is. 402 00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:40,912 And then he's off back towards the campsite. 403 00:16:40,956 --> 00:16:43,872 So then, the airplane overhead, he says, 404 00:16:43,915 --> 00:16:45,439 "Oh, he's back at the campsite," 405 00:16:45,482 --> 00:16:48,529 and then we can see smoke coming up through the trees. 406 00:16:48,572 --> 00:16:52,054 So now we know, OK, that's where the tent is, 407 00:16:52,098 --> 00:16:54,056 and that's where we need to go. 408 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:57,625 And then the pilots came over the radio and said, 409 00:16:57,668 --> 00:16:59,496 Hannah is down by the lake. 410 00:16:59,540 --> 00:17:03,587 She's as far away from DiMaggio as we've seen her from him. 411 00:17:06,460 --> 00:17:08,201 So that was the impetus behind us saying, 412 00:17:08,243 --> 00:17:09,810 OK, now is the time. 413 00:17:09,854 --> 00:17:12,161 So I gave a command-- execute, execute, execute, 414 00:17:12,204 --> 00:17:14,555 and all four of the guys in front got up 415 00:17:14,598 --> 00:17:17,036 and we just started advancing on the crisis site. 416 00:17:18,646 --> 00:17:21,257 And then I hear small caliber firearm discharge. 417 00:17:22,519 --> 00:17:24,042 - What's that sound like? 418 00:17:24,086 --> 00:17:25,914 - Sounds like bundle of sticks snapping. 419 00:17:25,957 --> 00:17:27,742 That's DiMaggio opening fire, 420 00:17:27,785 --> 00:17:30,614 and then immediately, I hear return fire 421 00:17:30,658 --> 00:17:32,399 that I know is our guys. 422 00:17:34,401 --> 00:17:35,358 I immediately just start running 423 00:17:35,402 --> 00:17:36,620 as fast as I possibly can 424 00:17:36,664 --> 00:17:39,101 straight towards the crisis site. 425 00:17:39,145 --> 00:17:42,278 Probably covered 20 or 30 meters, 426 00:17:42,322 --> 00:17:44,237 and I popped out into sort of a clearing 427 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,716 and I could see the lake. 428 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,762 And off to my right, I heard Hannah screaming. 429 00:17:47,805 --> 00:17:49,677 But our first priority obviously 430 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,461 is to deal with the subject. 431 00:17:51,505 --> 00:17:54,856 So I turn to my left, close that distance down, 432 00:17:54,899 --> 00:17:57,685 and come upon DiMaggio who is at the campsite 433 00:17:57,728 --> 00:17:58,860 laying on his back. 434 00:17:58,903 --> 00:18:00,209 He was dead. 435 00:18:00,253 --> 00:18:02,124 So he had been shot numerous times. 436 00:18:02,168 --> 00:18:03,560 Told the guys there, hey, secure him 437 00:18:03,604 --> 00:18:05,084 so we're going to handcuff him regardless, 438 00:18:05,127 --> 00:18:07,129 you know, just part of the procedure. 439 00:18:07,173 --> 00:18:09,958 And I said, let's begin securing the crime scene. 440 00:18:10,001 --> 00:18:11,655 And I ran back over to Hannah. 441 00:18:16,878 --> 00:18:18,619 By this time, the other two guys that were with us were 442 00:18:18,662 --> 00:18:20,316 providing medical aid. 443 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:22,101 I said, hey, how is she, 444 00:18:22,144 --> 00:18:23,841 and they're like, we think she's fine. 445 00:18:23,885 --> 00:18:25,408 So no visible injuries. 446 00:18:25,452 --> 00:18:30,152 And she was incredibly, incredibly agitated. 447 00:18:30,196 --> 00:18:32,720 I took a very hard look at the subject, 448 00:18:32,763 --> 00:18:35,636 and I was not quite sure that it was DiMaggio. 449 00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:36,898 - Why is that? 450 00:18:36,941 --> 00:18:39,161 - So his face was very gaunt. 451 00:18:39,205 --> 00:18:41,076 We've seen this in the past with folks that are 452 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,949 suffering from mental issues. 453 00:18:44,993 --> 00:18:46,560 It made me question whether it was him. 454 00:18:46,603 --> 00:18:48,910 And I looked and I looked and I looked and I said OK. 455 00:18:48,953 --> 00:18:51,260 So I ran back, and I said, "Hannah, who is that?" 456 00:18:51,304 --> 00:18:52,653 She goes, "That's Jim DiMaggio. 457 00:18:52,696 --> 00:18:54,437 Well, how is he?" 458 00:18:54,481 --> 00:18:56,657 I said, "Don't worry about him. 459 00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:58,572 He's not gonna hurt you anymore." 460 00:18:58,615 --> 00:19:00,139 So one of the things that you have 461 00:19:00,182 --> 00:19:01,314 to understand in these situations 462 00:19:01,357 --> 00:19:02,837 is the bad guy has a say and-- 463 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,099 - Absolutely. 464 00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:07,146 - He chose, and he chose poorly. 465 00:19:09,583 --> 00:19:10,627 - What about Hannah? 466 00:19:10,671 --> 00:19:12,107 What is she doing at this point? 467 00:19:12,151 --> 00:19:14,196 - She visibly started to calm down. 468 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,764 And I said, "Hey, Hannah, we're gonna get you 469 00:19:16,807 --> 00:19:19,462 "out of here really quickly. 470 00:19:19,506 --> 00:19:21,595 "Is there anything here that's yours 471 00:19:21,638 --> 00:19:23,553 that you wanna take with you?" 472 00:19:23,597 --> 00:19:25,686 And she says, oh, yes, there's a pair of jeans over there. 473 00:19:25,729 --> 00:19:27,688 And so one of the guys crawls in the tent, 474 00:19:27,731 --> 00:19:29,211 and he's like, these? 475 00:19:29,255 --> 00:19:31,822 So I grab them, and I said, Hannah, are these yours? 476 00:19:31,866 --> 00:19:33,998 And she goes no, no, no, these are my mom's. 477 00:19:34,042 --> 00:19:35,565 How's my mom and my brother? 478 00:19:35,609 --> 00:19:37,524 - Mm. 479 00:19:37,567 --> 00:19:39,221 I mean, here's this young woman who's just been 480 00:19:39,265 --> 00:19:40,701 through this crazy ordeal. 481 00:19:40,744 --> 00:19:42,616 These, you know, guys pop out of the woods, 482 00:19:42,659 --> 00:19:43,921 and they get in a gunfight. 483 00:19:43,965 --> 00:19:45,445 He was dead. - Right. 484 00:19:45,488 --> 00:19:46,881 - And, you know, she's trying to process all this 485 00:19:46,924 --> 00:19:48,230 and all she wants to do is get the jeans 486 00:19:48,274 --> 00:19:49,884 so she can give them back to her mom, right? 487 00:19:49,927 --> 00:19:53,322 - When she was saying that about her mom, 488 00:19:53,366 --> 00:19:55,281 what were you feeling at that point? 489 00:19:55,324 --> 00:19:57,892 - Just I felt-- 490 00:19:57,935 --> 00:19:59,720 I was crushed. 491 00:19:59,763 --> 00:20:01,939 I said, hey, Hannah, we'll figure out 492 00:20:01,983 --> 00:20:03,941 about your mom and your brother further down the line. 493 00:20:03,985 --> 00:20:05,726 Our goal is to get you off this mountain as safely 494 00:20:05,769 --> 00:20:07,771 and as quickly as we possibly can. 495 00:20:07,815 --> 00:20:10,644 Radioed back to the operation center, helicopter's en route, 496 00:20:10,687 --> 00:20:12,689 and it comes in. 497 00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:14,517 And I said, "Hey, Hannah, have you ever been 498 00:20:14,561 --> 00:20:15,736 on a helicopter before?" 499 00:20:15,779 --> 00:20:17,259 She said no. 500 00:20:17,303 --> 00:20:18,260 I said, "OK, make sure you look around. 501 00:20:18,304 --> 00:20:19,870 It's pretty cool." 502 00:20:19,914 --> 00:20:21,524 And, you know, she visibly got excited and, you know, 503 00:20:21,568 --> 00:20:22,656 actually saw a smile on her face. 504 00:20:22,699 --> 00:20:24,048 That made me feel good. 505 00:20:25,702 --> 00:20:27,574 The helicopter comes in. 506 00:20:27,617 --> 00:20:29,880 We run up there and get her strapped in. 507 00:20:29,924 --> 00:20:32,143 And helicopter takes off, and that's the last time 508 00:20:32,187 --> 00:20:34,450 I saw Hannah Anderson. 509 00:20:34,494 --> 00:20:36,365 - What happened to the kitty? 510 00:20:36,409 --> 00:20:37,758 - Sure enough, that night, 511 00:20:37,801 --> 00:20:39,150 they were securing the crime scene. 512 00:20:39,194 --> 00:20:41,283 The cat wandered back into the tent, 513 00:20:41,327 --> 00:20:43,198 and they rescued the cat as well. 514 00:21:01,390 --> 00:21:03,392 - Chuck, you've worked all kinds of cases. 515 00:21:03,436 --> 00:21:05,829 What makes this case stand out 516 00:21:05,873 --> 00:21:07,831 amongst all the cases that you've done? 517 00:21:07,875 --> 00:21:11,400 - When you have the ability to save somebody 518 00:21:11,444 --> 00:21:13,359 who finds themselves in this horrible set of circumstances 519 00:21:13,402 --> 00:21:15,099 through no fault of their own, 520 00:21:15,143 --> 00:21:18,277 it's a tremendously rewarding experience. 521 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,802 Nothing prepares you for that elation. 522 00:21:21,845 --> 00:21:23,760 When I put her on that helicopter 523 00:21:23,804 --> 00:21:25,980 and that helicopter flew away, I mean, 524 00:21:26,023 --> 00:21:28,330 I was overwhelmed, overwhelmed with positive emotion 525 00:21:28,374 --> 00:21:30,854 and you successfully accomplished the mission. 526 00:21:30,898 --> 00:21:36,338 And the idea that as horrible as this circumstance was, 527 00:21:36,382 --> 00:21:38,949 we gave Hannah at least a future. 41182

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