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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,394 --> 00:00:04,787 - We had these reports coming in 2 00:00:04,830 --> 00:00:07,181 that the US embassy in Libya had been attacked. 3 00:00:07,224 --> 00:00:10,227 - The attackers were Muslim protesters, 4 00:00:10,271 --> 00:00:12,708 apparently angry about an Internet film 5 00:00:12,751 --> 00:00:14,449 produced in the United States. 6 00:00:16,494 --> 00:00:18,801 - There were up to 60 individuals gathered 7 00:00:18,844 --> 00:00:19,845 outside the embassy. 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,416 They came armed with AK-47s, guns. 9 00:00:25,460 --> 00:00:27,462 They gathered gasoline canisters 10 00:00:27,505 --> 00:00:28,985 so that they could burn it. 11 00:00:29,029 --> 00:00:33,076 That fire was tremendous. 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,686 This was anything 13 00:00:34,730 --> 00:00:37,124 but a protest gone bad. 14 00:00:37,167 --> 00:00:39,865 The news comes across that the ambassador is missing. 15 00:00:39,909 --> 00:00:41,606 - My name is Chris Stevens, 16 00:00:41,650 --> 00:00:43,739 and I'm the new US ambassador to Libya. 17 00:00:43,782 --> 00:00:44,827 - We're trying to figure out exactly 18 00:00:44,870 --> 00:00:46,698 who was behind this attack. 19 00:00:46,742 --> 00:00:48,613 It's like a 10,000-piece puzzle. 20 00:00:49,962 --> 00:00:51,573 But you don't have the pieces. 21 00:00:51,616 --> 00:00:53,053 And you don't even have a picture 22 00:00:53,096 --> 00:00:55,620 to try and put it together. 23 00:00:55,664 --> 00:00:58,275 - There were about ten employees inside the building. 24 00:00:58,319 --> 00:01:00,364 - They still haven't accounted for everyone 25 00:01:00,408 --> 00:01:02,105 and haven't secured the consulate. 26 00:01:02,149 --> 00:01:03,846 - I don't know that there can be 27 00:01:03,889 --> 00:01:05,935 any greater motivating factor than to bring to justice 28 00:01:05,978 --> 00:01:08,851 those individuals who are responsible. 29 00:01:08,894 --> 00:01:11,419 But our challenge now is trying to figure out who they are. 30 00:01:16,511 --> 00:01:19,601 - In the FBI, we make a lot of headlines... 31 00:01:22,691 --> 00:01:24,127 Drug busts, 32 00:01:24,170 --> 00:01:26,999 mob stings, 33 00:01:27,043 --> 00:01:28,740 terrorists takedowns. 34 00:01:28,783 --> 00:01:30,873 - Get down! Get down! 35 00:01:30,916 --> 00:01:33,223 - We understand why people want to tell stories about US. 36 00:01:33,267 --> 00:01:34,268 - Mark it. 37 00:01:34,311 --> 00:01:35,791 - Freeze! - FBI. 38 00:01:35,834 --> 00:01:37,445 - FBI! - Action! 39 00:01:37,488 --> 00:01:39,533 - But they don't know the half of it. 40 00:01:41,231 --> 00:01:43,320 What really goes down, 41 00:01:43,364 --> 00:01:45,583 we save that for each other, 42 00:01:45,627 --> 00:01:47,628 when we're talking agent to agent. 43 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:53,809 This is "FBI True." 44 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,736 - Cindy Coppola is a 23-year veteran of the FBI. 45 00:02:07,779 --> 00:02:10,304 She worked on cases that included organized crime 46 00:02:10,347 --> 00:02:12,175 and terrorism and took part 47 00:02:12,219 --> 00:02:14,177 in multinational investigations 48 00:02:14,221 --> 00:02:16,832 into drug trafficking and money laundering. 49 00:02:16,875 --> 00:02:19,182 Coppola finished her career with the Los Angeles division, 50 00:02:19,226 --> 00:02:22,228 running two offices, supervising investigations, 51 00:02:22,272 --> 00:02:24,927 and providing undercover security for special events. 52 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:30,367 - September rolls around, the anniversary of 9/11. 53 00:02:30,411 --> 00:02:31,803 What are you doing? - September 11th, 2012, 54 00:02:31,847 --> 00:02:33,196 it wasn't lost on anyone, 55 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,328 the significance of that day. - No, of course. 56 00:02:38,332 --> 00:02:40,377 - The antennas are up. 57 00:02:40,421 --> 00:02:41,857 New York is always a target, 58 00:02:41,900 --> 00:02:43,031 and we wanna make sure, you know-- 59 00:02:43,075 --> 00:02:44,120 - No copycat. 60 00:02:44,164 --> 00:02:45,513 - No copycat attack. - Yeah. 61 00:02:45,555 --> 00:02:49,299 - Ari Mahairas joined the FBI in 1996. 62 00:02:49,343 --> 00:02:51,345 He worked in the Special Operations 63 00:02:51,388 --> 00:02:53,173 and Criminal divisions in New York, 64 00:02:53,216 --> 00:02:55,218 later joining the Counterterrorism Division 65 00:02:55,262 --> 00:02:57,960 and the Joint Terrorism Task Force. 66 00:02:58,003 --> 00:03:00,528 He retired as Special Agent in Charge of New York's 67 00:03:00,571 --> 00:03:03,226 Counterintelligence Cyber Division. 68 00:03:03,270 --> 00:03:05,272 - You know, we're thinking everything is going okay 69 00:03:05,315 --> 00:03:07,317 and wrap up the day. 70 00:03:07,361 --> 00:03:08,884 I'm listening to the news driving home, 71 00:03:08,927 --> 00:03:10,407 and we have these reports coming in 72 00:03:10,451 --> 00:03:12,931 that the US embassy in Libya had been attacked. 73 00:03:12,975 --> 00:03:15,238 - On Tuesday, dozens of protesters attacked 74 00:03:15,282 --> 00:03:17,806 the US embassy in Egypt and burned down 75 00:03:17,849 --> 00:03:21,897 the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya. 76 00:03:21,940 --> 00:03:24,073 - I get home and turn on the TV immediately, 77 00:03:24,116 --> 00:03:26,118 just trying to absorb and understand 78 00:03:26,162 --> 00:03:29,252 exactly where we are, because I know, no doubt, 79 00:03:29,296 --> 00:03:30,862 that CT3 is gonna open a case on this. 80 00:03:30,906 --> 00:03:32,690 - Of course, because New York handles that territory. 81 00:03:32,734 --> 00:03:34,736 - So CT3 had the extraterritorial 82 00:03:34,779 --> 00:03:37,173 responsibility for criminal activity 83 00:03:37,216 --> 00:03:39,654 that took place against US interests in North Africa. 84 00:03:39,697 --> 00:03:42,526 So this would fall within our area of responsibility. 85 00:03:42,570 --> 00:03:44,659 - And it wasn't really an embassy at the time, right? 86 00:03:44,702 --> 00:03:46,748 - That's how it was being reported in the news. 87 00:03:46,791 --> 00:03:49,490 But in reality, what was attacked was 88 00:03:49,533 --> 00:03:52,275 the US temporary mission facility in Benghazi, 89 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:53,406 or the special mission. 90 00:03:56,192 --> 00:03:58,542 And so we hear the news, and there's a report 91 00:03:58,586 --> 00:04:00,327 that Ambassador Chris Stevens had gone missing. 92 00:04:06,811 --> 00:04:08,335 We're in New York. This is taking place... 93 00:04:08,378 --> 00:04:10,772 - Yeah, of course. - 5,000 miles away in Libya. 94 00:04:10,815 --> 00:04:13,296 The news comes across that the ambassador is missing. 95 00:04:13,340 --> 00:04:15,820 So I get in the car, and I start making phone calls 96 00:04:15,864 --> 00:04:18,214 to the different supervisors, 97 00:04:18,257 --> 00:04:19,563 the agents that are on the squad. 98 00:04:19,606 --> 00:04:21,478 We got to the office, 99 00:04:21,522 --> 00:04:25,265 and we began gathering as much information as we can. 100 00:04:25,308 --> 00:04:27,136 The initial reports that were coming 101 00:04:27,179 --> 00:04:29,791 from the US government side was that this was a result 102 00:04:29,834 --> 00:04:33,577 of a protest stemming from a video. 103 00:04:35,057 --> 00:04:37,146 - The attackers were Muslim protesters, 104 00:04:37,189 --> 00:04:39,975 apparently angry about an Internet film 105 00:04:40,018 --> 00:04:42,020 produced in the United States 106 00:04:42,064 --> 00:04:45,284 that ridicules the prophet Muhammad. 107 00:04:45,328 --> 00:04:47,199 - And as a result of that video 108 00:04:47,243 --> 00:04:48,853 that was found to be offensive, 109 00:04:48,897 --> 00:04:51,291 there was a spontaneous protest in Egypt. 110 00:04:56,948 --> 00:04:59,386 And the initial reports that was being given 111 00:04:59,429 --> 00:05:02,911 by the government at the time was that the events in Egypt 112 00:05:02,954 --> 00:05:05,827 sparked what had taken place in Benghazi, Libya. 113 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,789 - And the other thing is, 114 00:05:11,833 --> 00:05:13,661 what was the ambassador doing there? 115 00:05:13,704 --> 00:05:15,271 What was his role? 116 00:05:16,403 --> 00:05:17,752 - Asalaam alaikum. 117 00:05:17,795 --> 00:05:19,144 My name is Chris Stevens, 118 00:05:19,188 --> 00:05:21,669 and I'm the new US ambassador to Libya. 119 00:05:21,712 --> 00:05:24,367 - So there was a lot going on in Libya. 120 00:05:24,411 --> 00:05:26,674 As we know, it was just after the fall of Gaddafi. 121 00:05:30,939 --> 00:05:33,376 There were a lot of militias operating 122 00:05:33,420 --> 00:05:34,812 in the vacuum of authority, 123 00:05:34,856 --> 00:05:36,640 and everybody was vying 124 00:05:36,683 --> 00:05:38,076 to get a piece of the pie, if you will. 125 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,079 Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi was there 126 00:05:41,123 --> 00:05:42,690 doing what diplomats do. 127 00:05:42,733 --> 00:05:46,868 He was there to establish relationships, 128 00:05:46,911 --> 00:05:49,218 meet with the locals, his counterparts, 129 00:05:49,261 --> 00:05:51,089 and build those relationships 130 00:05:51,133 --> 00:05:52,743 that advance the mutual interests 131 00:05:52,787 --> 00:05:55,398 of both the United States and the Libyan government. 132 00:05:55,442 --> 00:05:57,182 - I am excited to return to Libya 133 00:05:57,226 --> 00:05:59,533 to continue the great work we've started, 134 00:05:59,576 --> 00:06:01,273 building a solid partnership 135 00:06:01,317 --> 00:06:03,537 between the United States and Libya to help you, 136 00:06:03,580 --> 00:06:06,104 the Libyan people, achieve your goals. 137 00:06:06,148 --> 00:06:08,368 - And that night, he actually had dinner 138 00:06:08,411 --> 00:06:10,195 with some of his local counterparts. 139 00:06:10,239 --> 00:06:12,850 After the meeting had concluded, 140 00:06:12,894 --> 00:06:15,200 the ambassador retired to his residence. 141 00:06:15,244 --> 00:06:17,072 And it was about that time 142 00:06:17,115 --> 00:06:18,813 when the attack actually started. 143 00:06:23,383 --> 00:06:25,907 - What were you hearing that you weren't hearing-- 144 00:06:25,950 --> 00:06:26,995 like, seeing on the news? 145 00:06:27,038 --> 00:06:28,300 - One of the toughest things 146 00:06:28,344 --> 00:06:30,738 you do in this type of an investigation 147 00:06:30,781 --> 00:06:33,957 is to gather the intelligence and make sense of it. 148 00:06:37,484 --> 00:06:39,790 Intelligence work-- well, especially in this case, 149 00:06:39,834 --> 00:06:42,445 is like putting a puzzle together. 150 00:06:42,489 --> 00:06:44,578 It's like a 10,000-piece puzzle, 151 00:06:44,621 --> 00:06:46,101 but you don't have the pieces. 152 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,887 And you don't even have a picture 153 00:06:49,931 --> 00:06:51,498 to try and put it together. 154 00:06:51,541 --> 00:06:54,326 But the initial intelligence we were receiving, 155 00:06:54,370 --> 00:06:57,460 I think it was fairly reasonable to conclude 156 00:06:57,504 --> 00:07:01,377 that this was anything but a protest gone bad. 157 00:07:05,512 --> 00:07:09,254 The reports were, there were 30 and up to 60 individuals 158 00:07:09,298 --> 00:07:11,474 who had gathered outside the embassy. 159 00:07:11,518 --> 00:07:13,476 But one of the telltale signs was, 160 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,784 they came armed with AK-47s and RPGs. 161 00:07:20,527 --> 00:07:23,225 Right, so that doesn't follow the script... 162 00:07:23,268 --> 00:07:24,618 - Correct. - Of a protest gone bad. 163 00:07:24,661 --> 00:07:27,229 - Of a "protest," right. 164 00:07:27,272 --> 00:07:29,361 Do you know where the ambassador is at this point? 165 00:07:29,405 --> 00:07:31,973 - The first indication we had of any whereabouts 166 00:07:32,016 --> 00:07:34,497 of the ambassador came in a social media post, 167 00:07:34,541 --> 00:07:37,326 which depicted the ambassador's lifeless body in a picture. 168 00:07:42,418 --> 00:07:45,290 And we didn't know exactly what was happening. 169 00:07:45,334 --> 00:07:47,597 But we began to sort of flesh that out-- 170 00:07:47,641 --> 00:07:49,338 - Right, through the intel community. 171 00:07:49,381 --> 00:07:51,122 - And what we were able to determine 172 00:07:51,166 --> 00:07:53,081 was that the ambassador was found 173 00:07:53,124 --> 00:07:56,301 inside a room of a safe house. 174 00:07:56,345 --> 00:07:59,261 And despite appearing to be lifeless, 175 00:07:59,304 --> 00:08:01,393 he was taken to the Benghazi Medical Center, 176 00:08:01,437 --> 00:08:03,308 where attempts to resuscitate him failed. 177 00:08:03,352 --> 00:08:06,529 - The US ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, 178 00:08:06,573 --> 00:08:09,837 died yesterday when Muslim protesters stormed 179 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,884 and set fire to the US consulate in Benghazi. 180 00:08:17,409 --> 00:08:19,281 - So you're at the office, 181 00:08:19,324 --> 00:08:22,066 getting everybody broken into different teams. 182 00:08:22,110 --> 00:08:23,328 What's our plan of attack? 183 00:08:23,372 --> 00:08:25,505 - As we're strategizing in the office, 184 00:08:25,548 --> 00:08:27,463 we're still receiving intelligence. 185 00:08:27,507 --> 00:08:29,421 And we're trying to figure out exactly what happened. 186 00:08:29,465 --> 00:08:30,988 And so what we did was, 187 00:08:31,032 --> 00:08:33,730 deployed the investigative team. 188 00:08:33,774 --> 00:08:35,297 They went to Ramstein, 189 00:08:35,340 --> 00:08:37,821 where we spun up the forward operating base, 190 00:08:37,865 --> 00:08:40,040 where they would eventually rendezvous 191 00:08:40,084 --> 00:08:42,565 and meet up with the victims... 192 00:08:42,609 --> 00:08:43,871 - Sure. - Of the attack, 193 00:08:43,914 --> 00:08:46,830 who were just out of the danger zone, 194 00:08:46,874 --> 00:08:49,093 who had been evacuated. 195 00:08:49,137 --> 00:08:51,835 - And a law enforcement source said the FBI would 196 00:08:51,879 --> 00:08:53,968 begin the investigation by interviewing 197 00:08:54,011 --> 00:08:56,448 the 30 American survivors of the attack, 198 00:08:56,492 --> 00:09:00,452 who are now at a US military base in Germany. 199 00:09:00,496 --> 00:09:02,890 - The survivors painted a terrifying picture 200 00:09:02,933 --> 00:09:04,021 of what unfolded that night. 201 00:09:05,719 --> 00:09:08,417 - So at some point in Benghazi, 202 00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:10,767 there's a group of militants gathered. 203 00:09:12,377 --> 00:09:14,423 They breach the C1 gate. 204 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,427 They start moving through the compound unimpeded. 205 00:09:22,518 --> 00:09:24,651 After setting fire to the guardhouse, 206 00:09:24,694 --> 00:09:27,218 they made their way to the main house. 207 00:09:30,004 --> 00:09:32,006 Inside the main house, there was a safe room. 208 00:09:32,049 --> 00:09:33,877 That's where the DS agent was 209 00:09:33,921 --> 00:09:37,011 with Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith, 210 00:09:37,054 --> 00:09:39,796 another diplomat who was the information management officer 211 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,190 for the embassy. 212 00:09:42,233 --> 00:09:44,279 The militants try to break into the safe room. 213 00:09:49,676 --> 00:09:53,070 Unable to do so, 214 00:09:53,114 --> 00:09:55,595 they gather gasoline canisters... 215 00:09:58,510 --> 00:10:01,209 And put everything that they could together 216 00:10:01,252 --> 00:10:02,297 so that they could burn it. 217 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:04,299 That fire was tremendous. 218 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:11,306 As the fire burned and raged, 219 00:10:11,349 --> 00:10:13,787 burning everything in its path, 220 00:10:13,830 --> 00:10:15,615 smoke started getting into the room 221 00:10:15,658 --> 00:10:19,706 where the ambassador was with Sean Smith and the DS agent. 222 00:10:19,749 --> 00:10:24,188 The DS agent, believing he had the ambassador 223 00:10:24,232 --> 00:10:26,800 and Sean behind him, climbs out of the window, 224 00:10:26,843 --> 00:10:29,019 gasping for air, barely conscious. 225 00:10:29,063 --> 00:10:30,804 Realizing though, that he did not have 226 00:10:30,847 --> 00:10:32,980 the ambassador and Sean with him, 227 00:10:33,023 --> 00:10:35,635 he climbed back in to find them. 228 00:10:41,684 --> 00:10:44,165 He was unable to do so. 229 00:10:44,208 --> 00:10:47,429 The GRS units from the CIA annex arrive. 230 00:10:56,743 --> 00:10:58,614 And as they arrived at the special mission, 231 00:10:58,658 --> 00:10:59,876 they were met with gunfire. 232 00:11:06,796 --> 00:11:09,756 But they were able to push back the attackers 233 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:12,280 and were able to gain entry into the special mission... 234 00:11:14,586 --> 00:11:17,372 where they eventually find Sean Smith. 235 00:11:17,415 --> 00:11:19,504 Unfortunately, he had already passed. 236 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,032 But they were unable to find the ambassador. 237 00:11:25,075 --> 00:11:28,557 And realizing that the situation was deteriorating, 238 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,472 they make their way back to the CIA annex. 239 00:11:32,953 --> 00:11:36,217 And almost immediately, the battle starts again. 240 00:11:37,871 --> 00:11:39,829 But this time, with heavy weapons, 241 00:11:39,873 --> 00:11:42,919 small arms fire, and even a mortar attack. 242 00:11:42,963 --> 00:11:46,662 Those direct mortar hits resulted in the death 243 00:11:46,706 --> 00:11:49,970 of Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty of the GRS units. 244 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:55,279 Even not being there, just hearing the story, 245 00:11:55,323 --> 00:11:58,718 and then with media reports actually showing you 246 00:11:58,761 --> 00:12:00,110 the burned down buildings... 247 00:12:04,419 --> 00:12:06,943 I don't know that there can be any greater motivating factor 248 00:12:06,987 --> 00:12:08,902 than to bring to justice those individuals 249 00:12:08,945 --> 00:12:12,296 who are responsible for the deaths of the Americans, 250 00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:15,560 Ambassador Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, 251 00:12:15,604 --> 00:12:18,999 and Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty. 252 00:12:24,787 --> 00:12:25,788 - Are you getting any information 253 00:12:25,832 --> 00:12:27,616 that you might be able to use 254 00:12:27,659 --> 00:12:29,966 to start putting together a piece of an investigation? 255 00:12:30,010 --> 00:12:31,925 - We're beginning to collect evidence. 256 00:12:35,537 --> 00:12:36,494 We're trying to figure out exactly 257 00:12:36,538 --> 00:12:38,061 who was behind this attack. 258 00:12:40,324 --> 00:12:42,805 Some of the information that was developed early on 259 00:12:42,849 --> 00:12:46,591 were the militias who may have had a part in this, 260 00:12:46,635 --> 00:12:48,811 Ansar al-Sharia, Benghazi faction; 261 00:12:48,855 --> 00:12:51,161 Ansar Al-Sharia, Darnah faction; 262 00:12:51,205 --> 00:12:53,816 and then Ubaydah bin Jarrah, or UBJ, 263 00:12:53,860 --> 00:12:55,470 was the third faction 264 00:12:55,513 --> 00:12:58,778 because of their strength in that area 265 00:12:58,821 --> 00:13:01,476 and their intent on establishing Sharia law. 266 00:13:03,260 --> 00:13:05,872 So these three groups rise sort of to the top 267 00:13:05,915 --> 00:13:08,352 of your suspect list. 268 00:13:08,396 --> 00:13:10,920 So the information is coming in fast and furious. 269 00:13:10,964 --> 00:13:13,140 One of the things that early on we were able 270 00:13:13,183 --> 00:13:15,882 to get our hands on was the video surveillance system 271 00:13:15,925 --> 00:13:17,231 of the mission. 272 00:13:17,274 --> 00:13:18,667 That proved to be critical. 273 00:13:21,757 --> 00:13:24,412 And what we were able to gather was not only 274 00:13:24,455 --> 00:13:27,328 a sort of better picture of what actually happened. 275 00:13:27,371 --> 00:13:29,069 - Sure. - That was corroborated 276 00:13:29,112 --> 00:13:31,462 by the statements given 277 00:13:31,506 --> 00:13:33,551 of the victims who had been evacuated. 278 00:13:33,595 --> 00:13:36,337 But we were able to get some still photos now 279 00:13:36,380 --> 00:13:37,599 of individuals who were there. 280 00:13:42,125 --> 00:13:43,866 - Potential suspects. 281 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:45,259 - But our challenge now is trying to figure out 282 00:13:45,302 --> 00:13:48,828 who they are, trying to identify those subjects. 283 00:13:48,871 --> 00:13:53,310 But once we're able to get the actual photos, the stills, 284 00:13:53,354 --> 00:13:54,877 we give them off to the intel analysts, 285 00:13:54,921 --> 00:13:56,748 and they did a tremendous job actually 286 00:13:56,792 --> 00:13:58,054 in putting names to faces. 287 00:13:59,621 --> 00:14:00,883 - Where are they getting those names from? 288 00:14:00,927 --> 00:14:01,928 Like, how are they figuring that? 289 00:14:01,971 --> 00:14:04,104 Is it from older cases, or is it, 290 00:14:04,147 --> 00:14:06,715 you know, collection of intel from the past? 291 00:14:06,758 --> 00:14:08,021 - All of the above, right? - Right. 292 00:14:08,064 --> 00:14:09,892 - You know, you gotta go to the old 293 00:14:09,936 --> 00:14:11,720 classic detective work. 294 00:14:11,763 --> 00:14:14,549 And so you start researching older cases. 295 00:14:14,592 --> 00:14:16,551 You start passing those photos around 296 00:14:16,594 --> 00:14:19,032 to sources for identification. - Sure. 297 00:14:19,075 --> 00:14:21,121 - And you start getting these names back. 298 00:14:21,164 --> 00:14:23,210 But you know, despite the progress we made there, 299 00:14:23,253 --> 00:14:25,081 there was still many faces without names. 300 00:14:28,868 --> 00:14:30,739 - That you didn't know who they were? 301 00:14:30,782 --> 00:14:32,872 - No, we had no idea. But you know though 302 00:14:32,915 --> 00:14:34,699 that typically what we would do, 303 00:14:34,743 --> 00:14:37,050 we would reach out to the host nation, 304 00:14:37,093 --> 00:14:39,574 who's best suited to identify their own citizens, 305 00:14:39,617 --> 00:14:41,315 and say, hey, who is this person? 306 00:14:41,358 --> 00:14:43,534 - But unfortunately, you can't-- 307 00:14:43,578 --> 00:14:44,535 there's no host-- - There's no host nation. 308 00:14:46,668 --> 00:14:49,889 The ability to collaborate with them was limited at best. 309 00:14:49,932 --> 00:14:50,977 - Which is a shame. - And so now we have 310 00:14:51,020 --> 00:14:52,500 to find a creative way. 311 00:14:52,543 --> 00:14:54,241 How do we do that? 312 00:14:54,284 --> 00:14:55,677 Well, one of the things that they did 313 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,593 was coordinate with state department DS agents... 314 00:14:58,636 --> 00:14:59,986 - Yeah. - Who were previously 315 00:15:00,029 --> 00:15:01,161 on the ground and had established 316 00:15:01,204 --> 00:15:02,379 relationships with locals. 317 00:15:04,381 --> 00:15:05,948 Whether they're going three months or six months 318 00:15:05,992 --> 00:15:07,297 or a year, there's people that had been 319 00:15:07,341 --> 00:15:09,952 previously assigned there, just left, 320 00:15:09,996 --> 00:15:11,432 and hopefully established a relationship 321 00:15:11,475 --> 00:15:13,173 with some locals who we can now reach out to. 322 00:15:13,216 --> 00:15:14,435 - Great idea. 323 00:15:14,478 --> 00:15:16,437 - So we had some positive responses. 324 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,221 And so people who were willing to help, right, 325 00:15:18,265 --> 00:15:19,614 because not everybody was a bad guy. 326 00:15:22,051 --> 00:15:26,099 There were some people on that video that moved around 327 00:15:26,142 --> 00:15:28,492 with a little bit more air of authority. 328 00:15:30,233 --> 00:15:33,149 They appear to be directing others on the compound. 329 00:15:33,193 --> 00:15:34,977 - Interesting. - And at some point, 330 00:15:35,021 --> 00:15:38,328 the FBI did put out a wanted poster 331 00:15:38,372 --> 00:15:40,896 based on the stills that were taken. 332 00:15:43,116 --> 00:15:45,205 As the pieces of the puzzle began to draw 333 00:15:45,248 --> 00:15:48,991 a clearer picture, one image came to the forefront 334 00:15:49,035 --> 00:15:50,732 of their possible ringleader. 335 00:15:50,775 --> 00:15:52,864 And that was Ahmed Abu Khattala, 336 00:15:52,908 --> 00:15:55,389 the leader of Ubaydah Bin Jarrah, or UBJ. 337 00:15:58,479 --> 00:16:00,481 - So you have potential ringleader. 338 00:16:00,524 --> 00:16:03,745 What, in your mind, did you guys wanna do? 339 00:16:03,788 --> 00:16:05,355 Can you arrest anybody? 340 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:06,878 You know, it's not our country. 341 00:16:06,922 --> 00:16:09,577 - These cases are always difficult to do, even at home. 342 00:16:09,620 --> 00:16:11,057 But in this particular case, 343 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:12,841 working in a hostile, non-permission environment, 344 00:16:12,884 --> 00:16:14,364 it wasn't the same old thing. 345 00:16:14,408 --> 00:16:16,279 But the first thing that the case agents did, 346 00:16:16,323 --> 00:16:18,151 along with their US attorney counterparts, 347 00:16:18,194 --> 00:16:19,848 they presented the case to the judge, 348 00:16:19,891 --> 00:16:22,155 who approved an arrest warrant for Abu Khattala. 349 00:16:24,592 --> 00:16:26,463 And in this particular case with Abu Khattala, 350 00:16:26,507 --> 00:16:28,030 it was gonna prove to be a little bit more difficult, 351 00:16:28,074 --> 00:16:30,076 not only in actually being able to do it, 352 00:16:30,119 --> 00:16:31,599 but challenging because you also 353 00:16:31,642 --> 00:16:32,948 have to know where they are. 354 00:16:32,992 --> 00:16:34,994 And he wasn't an easy individual to track. 355 00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:43,045 While in country, and while tracking Khattala, 356 00:16:43,089 --> 00:16:45,656 we also have some fidelity on Anas Al-Liby. 357 00:16:49,878 --> 00:16:53,099 Now, Al-Liby, as you know, was the individual indicted 358 00:16:53,142 --> 00:16:55,275 for his participation in the 1998 embassy bombings 359 00:16:55,318 --> 00:16:56,711 in Kenya and Tanzania. - Yes, yeah. 360 00:16:56,754 --> 00:16:58,887 - Resulted in the death of over 220 people. 361 00:17:04,284 --> 00:17:06,808 - But approval wasn't given for both, 362 00:17:06,851 --> 00:17:08,156 a dual operation, 363 00:17:08,201 --> 00:17:09,767 a simultaneous capture operation 364 00:17:09,810 --> 00:17:12,248 of Al-Liby and Khattala. 365 00:17:12,291 --> 00:17:14,858 And so the decision was made to pursue Al-Liby. 366 00:17:17,123 --> 00:17:19,820 And after the capture operation 367 00:17:19,864 --> 00:17:22,214 becomes public on Al-Liby... 368 00:17:22,258 --> 00:17:25,653 - He is believed to have once been close to Osama bin Laden 369 00:17:25,695 --> 00:17:28,830 and is accused of playing a role in the 1998 bombings 370 00:17:28,873 --> 00:17:30,832 of two American embassies in Africa, 371 00:17:30,875 --> 00:17:32,964 which left more than 200 dead. 372 00:17:33,008 --> 00:17:36,316 - All chaos breaks loose on the streets of Libya. 373 00:17:40,494 --> 00:17:42,800 - Of course, because they're pissed off again. 374 00:17:42,844 --> 00:17:44,498 - It was a little too hot, and the US government, 375 00:17:44,541 --> 00:17:46,413 the officials weren't comfortable 376 00:17:46,456 --> 00:17:48,545 in authorizing that operation at that time. 377 00:17:48,589 --> 00:17:51,679 - So that put your arrest plan on hold, which wasn't helpful. 378 00:17:51,722 --> 00:17:53,768 - Well, it wasn't helpful that Khattala was free 379 00:17:53,811 --> 00:17:55,117 to move about, right? - Sure. 380 00:17:55,161 --> 00:17:56,988 - And it certainly wasn't helpful 381 00:17:57,032 --> 00:17:58,990 when he was sitting in a hotel lobby, 382 00:17:59,034 --> 00:18:01,689 sipping on his fruit juice, giving interviews. 383 00:18:01,732 --> 00:18:04,474 - We met with Ahmed Abu Khattala in public 384 00:18:04,518 --> 00:18:06,737 at the coffee shop of a well-known hotel 385 00:18:06,781 --> 00:18:09,740 here in Benghazi for around two hours. 386 00:18:09,784 --> 00:18:11,699 And he agreed to let us film audio 387 00:18:11,742 --> 00:18:14,136 but not video of our conversation. 388 00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:15,920 - He didn't implicate himself 389 00:18:15,964 --> 00:18:17,792 in any of the wrongdoing, right? 390 00:18:17,835 --> 00:18:21,709 But what he did say was, he was there that night, 391 00:18:21,752 --> 00:18:23,319 but he didn't participate. 392 00:18:39,030 --> 00:18:41,468 - As we look at this and try to say, 393 00:18:41,511 --> 00:18:43,818 well, can we get any good out of that? 394 00:18:43,861 --> 00:18:45,385 The truth of the matter is, yeah, 395 00:18:45,428 --> 00:18:47,126 because now we have Abu Khattala 396 00:18:47,169 --> 00:18:48,910 on film saying he was there. 397 00:18:48,953 --> 00:18:50,999 - He thinks he's gotten away with this. 398 00:18:51,042 --> 00:18:52,174 - It's almost like a mockery. 399 00:18:52,218 --> 00:18:55,177 For me, Abu Khattala's actions 400 00:18:55,221 --> 00:18:57,048 was thumbing his nose 401 00:18:57,092 --> 00:18:58,789 to US government... - US government, yeah. 402 00:18:58,833 --> 00:19:00,704 - To the acts of violence 403 00:19:00,748 --> 00:19:02,445 and the terrorism that he was a part of. 404 00:19:02,489 --> 00:19:04,882 Certainly wasn't a good look. 405 00:19:04,926 --> 00:19:06,797 But he wasn't free from being monitored. 406 00:19:10,236 --> 00:19:12,238 When he showed up, he gave us a starting point 407 00:19:12,281 --> 00:19:14,240 that we could continue to track his movements. 408 00:19:14,283 --> 00:19:17,112 Not only did we have something coming out of his own mouth, 409 00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:18,940 but we know where he is now. 410 00:19:18,983 --> 00:19:21,290 And so he may have felt comfortable, 411 00:19:21,334 --> 00:19:23,292 but we were certainly moving towards a day 412 00:19:23,336 --> 00:19:24,946 where he would not feel comfortable. 413 00:19:24,989 --> 00:19:27,470 It's not until a few months later 414 00:19:27,514 --> 00:19:31,474 where we start developing plans to execute the arrest warrant. 415 00:19:31,518 --> 00:19:35,783 And so the FBI case team worked hand in hand 416 00:19:35,826 --> 00:19:38,568 with their USIC counterparts, 417 00:19:38,612 --> 00:19:40,831 developed a source who can get close to Khattala. 418 00:19:43,791 --> 00:19:46,228 - Placement and access. - Placement and access. 419 00:19:46,272 --> 00:19:50,493 And eventually, an individual was identified who, 420 00:19:50,537 --> 00:19:54,105 based on his credibility in and around the Benghazi area, 421 00:19:54,149 --> 00:19:57,021 who was capable of getting close to Khattala 422 00:19:57,065 --> 00:20:00,547 and developing the finer points of a capture mission. 423 00:20:00,590 --> 00:20:02,331 - So was that source working well for-- 424 00:20:02,375 --> 00:20:04,028 - The source is doing a tremendous job, 425 00:20:04,072 --> 00:20:05,639 absolutely phenomenal job. 426 00:20:05,682 --> 00:20:08,250 As you know, these capture operations, 427 00:20:08,294 --> 00:20:09,773 meticulous planning is required. 428 00:20:09,817 --> 00:20:11,645 - Of course. It's gotta be all lined up. 429 00:20:11,688 --> 00:20:13,299 - One of the things the source was able to do 430 00:20:13,342 --> 00:20:15,301 was speak with Khattala 431 00:20:15,344 --> 00:20:17,955 and get him to visit a seaside villa. 432 00:20:21,916 --> 00:20:24,658 The idea that was being pitched was, 433 00:20:24,701 --> 00:20:27,051 Khattala could use this place as a safe house 434 00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:28,531 and a place to rest, 435 00:20:28,575 --> 00:20:31,360 because as powerful as he was, 436 00:20:31,404 --> 00:20:33,057 somebody always wants the crown. 437 00:20:33,101 --> 00:20:34,929 - Yeah. - So he was targeted as well. 438 00:20:34,972 --> 00:20:36,670 There were rival militia factions there 439 00:20:36,713 --> 00:20:38,149 that were not necessarily in line. 440 00:20:38,193 --> 00:20:39,934 - Yeah, he's not stupid. - Right, he's not stupid. 441 00:20:39,977 --> 00:20:41,065 He knows he has enemies. 442 00:20:41,109 --> 00:20:42,589 He agreed to it. 443 00:20:42,632 --> 00:20:45,244 And so with the capture operation now approved, 444 00:20:45,287 --> 00:20:46,593 the plan is put into motion. 445 00:20:48,682 --> 00:20:50,945 As arranged, the source meets Khattala, 446 00:20:50,988 --> 00:20:53,513 and they drive towards the seaside villa, 447 00:20:53,556 --> 00:20:54,992 about a 20 or 30-minute ride. 448 00:20:55,036 --> 00:20:56,516 - Nice. - It's nighttime. 449 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:59,170 As they arrive, the source gets out of the vehicle, 450 00:20:59,214 --> 00:21:02,304 starts leading Khattala into the house, 451 00:21:02,348 --> 00:21:05,655 where US Special Operations Forces were inside and waiting. 452 00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:07,788 As Khattala entered into the home, 453 00:21:07,831 --> 00:21:10,312 he was engaged by our operators. 454 00:21:10,356 --> 00:21:12,923 Khattala was armed, and he was a big guy. 455 00:21:12,967 --> 00:21:14,664 And he fought back violently. 456 00:21:14,708 --> 00:21:17,319 But in short order, the operators were able 457 00:21:17,363 --> 00:21:20,191 to disarm him and get him under control. 458 00:21:20,235 --> 00:21:22,150 And that's when they effected the capture. 459 00:21:25,719 --> 00:21:29,157 On that night, US Special Operations Forces 460 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,028 went fishing, 461 00:21:31,072 --> 00:21:32,291 and they caught a big fish. 462 00:21:34,858 --> 00:21:39,341 Eventually, the team moves towards the sea, 463 00:21:39,385 --> 00:21:41,822 where they get on a boat, and then they take a ride 464 00:21:41,865 --> 00:21:43,867 and connect with the USS New York out at sea. 465 00:21:46,696 --> 00:21:49,612 But the ship now is making its way back to the US. 466 00:21:49,656 --> 00:21:53,137 And while on the ship, they're conducting interviews. 467 00:21:53,181 --> 00:21:55,357 The first set of investigators have a different, 468 00:21:55,401 --> 00:21:57,011 more urgent mission. 469 00:21:57,054 --> 00:21:58,708 They're trying to figure out whether Khattala's 470 00:21:58,752 --> 00:22:02,625 involved with or knows of another imminent attack. 471 00:22:02,669 --> 00:22:06,020 When that kind of settles down, then the investigative team, 472 00:22:06,063 --> 00:22:08,283 who had been pursuing this relentlessly, 473 00:22:08,327 --> 00:22:09,980 they were next up on deck. 474 00:22:10,024 --> 00:22:11,895 And they began their interview process. 475 00:22:11,939 --> 00:22:13,332 But their objective, 476 00:22:13,375 --> 00:22:14,942 as you know, is totally different. 477 00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:17,597 They're trying to conduct an interview in such a way that-- 478 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,250 - For the criminal prosecution. - For the criminal prosecution. 479 00:22:19,294 --> 00:22:20,295 - Yeah, sure, of course. - That's right. 480 00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:21,905 I'm at an off-site facility 481 00:22:21,949 --> 00:22:24,125 knowing that the operation is gonna go down. 482 00:22:24,168 --> 00:22:27,389 And they stayed focused and dedicated to their mission... 483 00:22:27,433 --> 00:22:28,564 - Sure. - Which is to develop 484 00:22:28,608 --> 00:22:31,045 the case and bring Khattala to justice. 485 00:22:33,656 --> 00:22:35,136 But why that day? 486 00:22:36,703 --> 00:22:37,965 And why this facility? 487 00:22:40,271 --> 00:22:42,186 During the course of the investigation, 488 00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:44,754 we determined that he believed 489 00:22:44,798 --> 00:22:47,366 that the special mission was an actual spy base. 490 00:22:48,976 --> 00:22:51,587 And so wanting to rid his city... 491 00:22:51,631 --> 00:22:53,676 - Of a spy base. - Of this American spy base, 492 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,287 that-- - Was his motive. 493 00:22:56,331 --> 00:22:57,985 - His other motive was to kill Americans. 494 00:22:58,028 --> 00:22:59,900 And in fact, he said, if he could 495 00:22:59,943 --> 00:23:02,337 have killed more Americans, he would have. 496 00:23:33,194 --> 00:23:35,805 - Well, Ari, my hat's off to you guys and the team. 497 00:23:35,849 --> 00:23:37,024 - Thank you. - A year and a half, 498 00:23:37,067 --> 00:23:39,896 I mean, the guy is finally captured alive 499 00:23:39,940 --> 00:23:41,332 so he can face prosecution. 500 00:23:41,376 --> 00:23:45,032 - It's a tremendous feeling of satisfaction. 501 00:23:45,075 --> 00:23:47,774 All the hard work, not only for me personally, 502 00:23:47,817 --> 00:23:50,341 but a tremendous relief for those who survived 503 00:23:50,385 --> 00:23:51,255 and for the families. - And the families. 504 00:23:51,299 --> 00:23:52,692 - And this investigation, 505 00:23:52,735 --> 00:23:56,478 it doesn't end with the capture of Abu Khattala. 506 00:23:56,522 --> 00:23:59,046 It continues on for those who are responsible 507 00:23:59,089 --> 00:24:00,221 for the deaths of the Americans. 39764

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