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You've come to this island to be
forgotten, then to die.
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All the major agitators are out of the
picture now. That kaffir lover Ruth
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will be leaving on an exit visa soon.
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Timmy just had a baby daughter.
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My children have grown up and I have not
been there. There's new legislation
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coming. The Terrorism Act will give us
unlimited power. No!
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No! No!
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No! No! No!
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They have made me strong.
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They can never hurt me.
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I'm off to work, but I'm with you in
spirit.
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Prime Minister, the central thrust of
the act is simple. In township
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All lessons and key subjects might be
taught in Afrikaans.
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More and more blacks are adopting
English at an alarming rate.
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If a native wishes to play a useful role
in our culture, he must be able to
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speak our language. Indeed.
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But there is resistance.
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Really? In what way?
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Teachers threatening to strike, pupils
refusing to attend classes.
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Restless kids playing truant. That
shouldn't strike fear into our hearts.
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If you think about it in this way,
children learning to speak Afrikaans is
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bad idea.
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I think knowledge is the answer to
everything.
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Not knowledge.
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Understanding.
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To understand one's opponent is a good
thing.
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Nothing is a good thing when it is
forced upon you against your will.
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Yes, yes.
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This is also true.
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She's home now, and she's a very strong
woman who has been arrested,
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interrogated, tortured because I love
her, because I married her and chose
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the path that led here, leaving her
alone in the world with two young
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So what department?
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Yes, Queen Mandela. The protest in
Soweto is out of control.
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It's horrible. The police, they gave no
warning.
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They started firing.
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Children and their kids, please, you
must come.
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Widespread rioting in Soweto following
student protests this morning. Police
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advising Soweto to stay indoors.
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There are unconfirmed reports.
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The death of 13 -year -old Hector
Peterson has sparked days of increasing
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violence.
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Many of the dead are schoolchildren,
whose protests at the imposition of
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Afrikaans as the language of the
classroom began what is now being called
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Soweto Uprising.
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Over 120 rioters have been killed so
far.
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What started as a peaceful protest
descended into chaos and running street
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battles with... They're kids, Oliver.
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Kids!
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And they're leading the charge.
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I miss home.
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But things are even worse now.
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School kids.
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Teachers, too.
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All across the winter.
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They have arrested a hundred.
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The anger and defiance of this whole
generation.
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It's like a volcano, ready to erupt.
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And if it does... The struggle is
entering a new phase.
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And the ANC must be prepared to embrace
it.
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This is deeply disturbing.
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We control entire countries. We protect
our borders from terrorists and
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revolutionaries. Yet we can't stop a
bunch of kids from causing absolute
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They complain about their education.
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Yet they burn the schools that we build
for them. You can't apply logic to the
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blacks. They don't see the buildings as
their own. They see them as instruments
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of apartheid.
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We will look like idiots if we can't
control a bunch of school children.
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Not only in Soweto, right across South
Africa.
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Our country is on fire.
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How do we stop this?
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Let them feel they've won.
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Tell them they don't have to learn
Afrikaans.
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We've got bigger problems than their
hatred of our language.
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We've become complacent.
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We put away their leaders on an island
and we thought that would be the end of
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it. But they grew new leaders.
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That Steve Biko and his black
consciousness ideology stirring up the
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We must be vigilant.
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We must cut off those ringleaders.
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I want them destroyed.
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Starting with Steve Biko.
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Thank you for coming today.
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You are a loyal supporter of our cause.
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You in fact.
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Hello, Supreme Leader.
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I want to introduce you to Steve Biko, a
man of the future.
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Mr. Biko, I have heard of you.
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So tell me, what are your plans for the
future?
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Stay and see for yourself.
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Black consciousness means pride in black
culture, in being a black person.
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Black consciousness does not need the
approval, the cooperation, the support
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white liberals.
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Black consciousness needs only the
belief in itself and in its absolute
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to stand up and fight the oppressors.
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Black consciousness leads to black
power.
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At the back, we have Winnie Mandela.
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Winnie, please, come.
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Big boy.
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Steve Viggo's right.
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Black consciousness is the route to
freedom.
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And our freedom is something we must
claim ourselves.
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We must break the chains of oppression
ourselves.
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Move over, Foster.
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It is not you who will break us.
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It is ourselves alone.
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will break you.
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for you, Mr. Beaker.
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You are going to wish so much that
you're with your friends on Robben
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Turn your face back to me, cheeky
bastard.
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What do you want?
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Pack your things.
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You're being banished.
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To Brantford.
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Brantford? They're in the middle of
nowhere!
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Don't ask myself!
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Who's going on about having your
freedom?
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Now you've got it.
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Hey, hey, look at me.
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Look at me.
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They told us to keep you alive.
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What's going on?
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I don't know.
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13 Western nations attended Biko's
funeral.
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Over 15 ,000 people were there.
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This international interference in the
affairs of our state is dangerous.
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The President of the United States has
publicly stated that America is going to
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re -examine its relationship with us.
What the hell does that even mean?
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As if I haven't got enough on my plate
already with this trumped -up
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investigation into my personal finances.
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And now there's Biko.
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He fell and struck his head. Is that the
best we could come up with? He fell and
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struck his head.
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I couldn't care for your dad, but who
the hell was stupid enough to smash him
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like that? What we have to do now is
contain these agitators.
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Unless we control this madness, we will
end up being an oppressed minority in
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our own country again.
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We need to show the rest of the world we
have things under control, and we are
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going in the right direction.
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I can't shake it.
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What? This feeling.
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Here I am in Mozambique, hundreds of
miles away, yet I never feel safe.
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Never feel they won't hunt me down, or
you for that matter.
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Shh, shh, shh.
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You mustn't.
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It's not enough to stop me writing or
teaching or speaking out. It's an awful
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choice. It's a god -awful price.
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But you can't dwell on it. You couldn't
get through the day.
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You don't dwell about me, but you... I
never know where you are from day to
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Today you're here, yesterday you were in
London, tomorrow you'll be back.
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It's been fast.
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Why couldn't we just be born content
with... Are you expecting anyone?
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Just Chris. I told him you'd arrived.
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Chris, you look striking.
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Ruth.
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How are you?
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I'll rush right over.
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Comrade, you arrived safely.
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Oh, sorry, I forgot to salute you.
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Commander Chris Harney.
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Thanks, thanks.
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But how much must be paid to the leader
we've just lost?
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An inquest has been set up to
investigate his murder.
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Which they'll absolutely clear the
police of any wrongdoing.
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Before he was killed, Beaker reached out
to Oliver to set up a meeting in
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Botswana.
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He's finally come to understand that our
guerrilla fighters make the NCA a force
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to be reckoned with.
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Such a loss.
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No one's helped such a way since Nelson.
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Has there been any word from him?
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Not recently.
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But Oliver's called a meeting for the
leadership in Ghana.
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We must travel together.
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You know, Ruth, your mailbox is so full,
people are going to start thinking
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you're the secretary of the ANC and the
director of the university.
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Well, if you want mail from people,
Aquino, you have to be a better
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correspondent.
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more lives, my dear, before our
liberation.
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Sometimes it is hard to be, as you say,
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no
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matter
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how wrong our calculations have been in
the past.
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No matter what difficulties we face in
the future, our freedom
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will be brought about by the strength of
our organization
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and by the shared determination of our
people.
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Mrs Mandela, you were forced from your
home in Soweto. Now this interim place
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where you were held in isolation has
been burnt. Who do you think did this?
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It is the South African government
through their security branch.
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Do you think it's possible they're
responsible for the death of Ruth first?
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Anything is possible with a morally
corrupt government. That does not value
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human life.
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And are you going to keep on struggling?
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The struggle goes on.
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There's never been a doubt about that.
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And when the struggle's over, who's
going to lead the people?
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Mandela. Mandela.
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I wonder which Mandela she means.
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She doesn't say Nelson Mandela, just
Mandela.
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Something has got to be done to stop
her. The people love her, Joe.
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She has been dear friends with my wife
since she was a young girl. She says and
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does whatever she wants, Oliver.
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She's uncontrollable.
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Ruth would have kicked you for talking
about a woman like that.
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What I wouldn't give to have a good old
argument with Reese about that.
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I'm sorry, Joe.
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I've just been with her.
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If only I'd told her.
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So much.
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How are you supposed to know?
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None of us could have known.
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At least it was quick.
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At the very least, we need to set up a
crisis committee to deal with Winnie.
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I don't handle her without burdening
Nelson.
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Yes, of course.
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I'm told that upon my release for six
months, I'll be living under house
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in Durban.
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Durban? That's close to where Winnie is.
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Any message to her?
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Oh, she knows it. But tell her anyway
that I think of her constantly.
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And eat some good food for me.
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After 12 years being here with you
chaps, even a cup of cold tea and a tea
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biscuit will taste like food for a king.
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We'll be drinking English tea with
Oliver in London as soon as the ANC can
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arrange it.
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I'll slip out of the country as soon as
possible.
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Take all of your messages with me.
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Yes, the priority now is international
pressure, economic sanctions.
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Make sure that Oliver knows that we are
in total accord.
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Last week, Angola raising funds for
arms. Now a royal summit.
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Oliver, I think you look better in army
fatigues. More than a day's work.
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Chief, you're too lazy.
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Oliver.
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Joe, you look well.
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You too. Your contention is as big as an
army.
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But only the ANC can afford a military
wing. We sleep on mats in the rain.
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Nothing quite as princely as this.
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Please, sit.
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My agreement with the South African
government has no underlying economic
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advantage.
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Leading a self -governing Zulu state is
in the best interest of my people.
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And to some, self -serving.
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Establishing separate nations.
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inside of a bigger nation has never been
the goal of the ANC, but our mutual
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goal of polishing apart.
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Now, that has always been my saying.
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At home, Inkatha is strong.
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Now, we can continue to lead the
movement internally, and the ANC can
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the movement externally,
internationally.
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We will fight from wherever we are with
whatever we've got.
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You have asked for our blessing for
greater recognition in the international
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community. It is impossible if we are at
odds.
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Henceforth, the unity of the ANZ Enigata
shall never be questioned. I will
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continue to call for the release of all
political prisoners and the unbanning of
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political organizations in Hegla.
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To the world, our legions and priorities
must remain unambiguously aligned.
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The ANZ Enigata.
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will move forward on opposing apartheid
as a unified front.
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I give you my word.
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Unifying us will ensure the prosperity
of this new nation.
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And self -rule, more importantly, for
the greater good of all of South Africa.
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That's nice. Thank you.
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Unbelievable. He agreed to align himself
with the ANC and now he's opposing
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international sanctions.
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The government is aware that Boutelizi
gives them credibility.
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They're using him, reinforcing a
perception that Inkatha is the only
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black party of South Africa.
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In the interest of both sides, Inkatha
and the homeland survive on government
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subsidies. The powerful Zulu chieftain
and the leader of the influential
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Freedom Party said, I urge my friends in
South Africa to renounce violence.
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I urge my friends in the rest of the
world not to impose economic sanctions
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South Africa. The message sent from
Robben Island is that international
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is more important than the arms
struggle.
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Only pressure from the outside can bring
this to a head.
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We need to shift the world's perception
that the ANC leads black South Africa.
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ANC must be the voice the world listens
to.
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The government offered Nelson his
freedom if he agreed to live in one of
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homelands. Let's put a lessee and stay
out of politics.
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Nelson refused.
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It's a great story if you think about
it.
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Only a true leader would sacrifice his
own freedom for his people.
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I've been thinking about this for quite
some time.
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Now more than ever, the world needs a
symbol to rally around for our cause.
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Freeing Nelson Mandela could be that
symbol for the freedom of all of South
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Africa. It's brilliant. We could do
something like...
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Release Nelson Mandela now.
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Free.
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Prime Minister John Forster has
resigned.
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Thank you, Warden Brent.
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The PM resigns after 12 years in the top
job.
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Alleged misuse of public funds.
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Security Minister Vandenberg also
implicated.
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Who is next in line?
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The Minister of Defence, Peter
Villambota.
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The economic situation is not improving,
Corby.
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I've just been told that a major
international bank is threatening to
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support unless we engage with black
leadership.
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They want us to negotiate with them.
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Pray to God it doesn't come to that.
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Prime Minister, to that end, I've given
the serious thought.
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We've played our hand with Buttigieg
long enough.
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We have no other choice but to be
pragmatic.
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Nelson Mandela.
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This from a top psychologist.
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Mandela is exceptionally motivated. He
has an extraordinarily powerful memory,
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maintains outstanding personal
relations, is always friendly and
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towards authority figures.
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This is the leader of a violent
organization that has committed acts of
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against us, waged an armed struggle.
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Eighteen years in prison can change a
man.
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Perhaps now the idea of power sharing
might appeal to him.
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He is the symbol of a movement that none
of us could have foreseen. Every day we
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delay dealing with him, the pressure
against our system mounts.
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Perhaps we could transfer him off Robben
Island to say, pause my prison.
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Conduct meetings with him in utmost
secrecy.
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Boom. Boom.
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Best of all, you get your own toilet.
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Good morning, Nelson.
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How are you today?
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I am fine, Warder Brent. I didn't
realize having extra space would take so
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getting used to.
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Well, don't get too comfortable.
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Orders have just come in to transport
you to an important meeting today.
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Mr.
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Mandela.
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Welcome, Mr. Mandela.
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Welcome to my home. Thank you.
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And forgive me while I catch my breath.
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This is the first vista I have seen
without a hint of steel or barbed wire
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quite some time.
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Take as long as you want. I want you to
be comfortable here.
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I trust your conditions at Portsmouth
are more acceptable.
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I would scarcely call any condition
short of freedom acceptable, Mr.
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Well, that's what we're here to talk
about.
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And please call me Quibi.
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I've studied your name.
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Nelson...
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The convener of dialogue.
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Yes, it is the name that was given to me
at my initiation into manhood, although
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it is you who started this conversation.
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Well, for starters, may I please call
you Nelson? Yes, if it makes you
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comfortable. Thank you.
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I felt it necessary for us to sit down
together and start negotiating about the
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path forward.
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Well, it is...
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Very difficult for us to begin
negotiating if our organization is still
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bars. What shall we call what we are
doing right now?
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We are merely talking, and it is my own
personal view that we begin a
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discussion. But you must understand that
I am not the president of the ANC. Our
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leader is Oliver Tambo.
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If the blacks kill each other...
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They will forget all about fighting us.
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General, are you suggesting we provide
military training for Inkata members?
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Merely to defend themselves.
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Let the Inkata Zulus return to their
warring nature.
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If the blacks turn on each other, moving
forward towards a unified democracy
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will be a moot point.
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I will make sure there is no connection
back to our military.
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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Take that thing off.
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this government with AK -47s.
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Because we haven't got any.
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We have stones.
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We have boxes of matches.
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We have got these hands.
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Our power.
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The people's power.
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We shall dismantle apartheid.
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To hell with water regime.
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Collaboration. No,
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no, please.
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The committee cannot control her.
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She will not listen to anyone.
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And now they say she's holding hostages
in her home.
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She continues to speak out about
whatever she likes in public.
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We have tried to protect Nelson from
this so that he can concentrate on other
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matters. But we have no choice.
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He must be the one to deal with this
crisis.
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We must tell him everything we know.
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We see word.
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Nelson already knows.
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The extent of the accusations?
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We're hearing rumors that Nelson's
negotiating with the government, which
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one hand a good thing.
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On the other hand, it's going to raise
questions with some people about
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he may be making. Stop.
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No more.
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We'll not listen to any more talk about
Nelson selling out.
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There's no talk of that coming from me.
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I'm certain that Nelson is unwavering.
He will always uphold the ANC's mandate.
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We have to maintain the higher moral
ground.
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Calm down, Oliver.
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Sit down.
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Okay.
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You're working yourself to death.
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Every day it is something else.
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My mind is pulled in a dozen different
directions.
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Do you think the leadership in exile is
concerned about these private talks that
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I am selling out?
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Oliver could never think that you would
sell out.
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Hmm.
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We have not seen Oliver in nearly a
quarter century.
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I don't rock the government with this
prison move.
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They're trying to divide and weaken us.
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Yes, of course, you're right.
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But I do believe that the time has
finally come.
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They have finally accepted that they
have to talk to us. It's not the perfect
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situation, but how can I walk away from
such an opportunity?
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I won't stand in your way.
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I trust that you know what you are
doing.
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Actually, I am more concerned about how
to handle the delicacy of my domestic
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situation.
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I have had too many things.
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Secondhand, of course.
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rumors about her.
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The necklacing, kidnappings of so
-called traitors, the gangs of
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thugs that she commands.
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What else have you heard?
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Nothing for sure.
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And I pray that there are only rumors.
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She is my wife, Walter.
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My wife.
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A political person, a good person.
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There will always be those forces that
want to tarnish her.
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Already they have done so much to try
and destroy her.
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Yes.
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We must get word to the ANC to find out
the truth about this.
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I have had a certain amount of peace and
protection here.
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She has had none of that.
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No further military action.
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I am not prepared to lead white South
Africans on the road to abdication and
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suicide. I agree. There's no answer in
trying to fight it out. I am committed
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peaceful negotiation.
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So we will press ahead with more
apartheid reforms then? In that
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We have crossed the Rubicon. There can
be no turning back.
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And what about Mandela? If he gives a
commitment to non -violence, I will
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release him.
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He has already rejected that offer, sir.
Then you must reconsider.
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We will wear him down.
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Move him to even more comfortable
surroundings.
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Give him more and more of a taste of
freedom.
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Get him to understand there is no way I
will unban the ANC.
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The ball is in his court.
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Well, I'm glad they let me take you
today.
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Tomorrow's the public holiday.
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Ah, yes, the day of the covenant, your
day of thanksgiving to God.
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27 years ago, we began the armed
struggle.
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27 years.
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Well, Nelson, let me take your box
without the back, and then it's goodbye
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me. I've got to get back to Polesmoor.
You know, Waterbrand, you always behaved
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correctly toward me.
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It is waters like you, men like you.
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that have validated my belief in
humanity all these years behind bars.
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Thank you.
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Let me get those boxes.
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I want to work with the Congress to
advance America's policy towards South
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Africa. Leading Democrats will introduce
amendments calling for total
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disinvestment in South Africa.
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Exxon joins Coca -Cola, Kodak, Revlon
and others to become the 87th company to
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leave in two years.
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And as we decided we could not do
business with Hitler, we must now decide
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we cannot do business with South Africa.
We can't afford to keep our economy
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afloat. We are near bankrupt.
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Our airstrikes against the neighbouring
states have further increased our debt.
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The interest of eliminating unsolicited
interference in South African affairs.
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00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,880
Now, Chase Manhattan is refusing to roll
over our debt.
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This morning, I tried reaching out to
the president of the Federal Reserve,
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the rent is falling.
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Our imports are being curbed.
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Even the committee appointed by Buerta
had no viable solutions to offer.
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I will assemble as many of the ministers
as possible for an emergency session at
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my house in Pretoria.
473
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,480
We have to present a united front when
we approach him.
474
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,700
If we do not compromise now, Buck,
disaster is inevitable.
475
00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:36,380
Are you now beginning to quote the words
of Nelson Mandela?
476
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,860
Thank you.
477
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,320
It pains me to ask you this.
478
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,120
But are any of the things that you are
accused of true?
479
00:43:02,660 --> 00:43:03,720
It is propaganda.
480
00:43:05,300 --> 00:43:08,820
You should know better than anyone not
to believe everything you read in the
481
00:43:08,820 --> 00:43:11,020
paper. That is not what I asked you.
482
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,480
You must disband the football club.
483
00:43:14,740 --> 00:43:16,860
The football club looks after me.
484
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,700
They keep me safe. They must go.
485
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,900
But darling, there is a Walter Sisulu
football club.
486
00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:29,590
Why can't we have a Mandela United
football club? The Walter Huloo football
487
00:43:29,590 --> 00:43:34,250
does not have members who are
terrorizing the community, who are
488
00:43:34,250 --> 00:43:35,250
thugs.
489
00:43:35,370 --> 00:43:41,150
The Mandela United football club has
members who are accused of murder. That
490
00:43:41,150 --> 00:43:42,150
nonsense.
491
00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:51,150
I will let the boys go if they want to.
Get rid of them. I have spoken on it
492
00:43:51,150 --> 00:43:52,150
now.
493
00:43:52,460 --> 00:43:55,460
I do not want to hear any more about any
of these things.
494
00:43:59,780 --> 00:44:01,740
It is quiet in this garden of yours.
495
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,440
But out there, there is war.
496
00:44:05,820 --> 00:44:07,180
Then behave like a soldier.
497
00:44:07,620 --> 00:44:11,100
You must be disciplined and learn to
follow your leader.
498
00:44:16,540 --> 00:44:17,540
You forget.
499
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,360
I'm a leader too now.
500
00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:35,830
You have the arrogance to come and tell
me, after 53 years of service to the
501
00:44:35,830 --> 00:44:39,630
National Party, pack your bags and go
and sit in the wilderness.
502
00:44:39,890 --> 00:44:44,130
What you fail to grasp is that economics
and politics cannot be separated.
503
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:47,710
How long do you expect us to carry on?
Two, three years?
504
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:50,770
We are being strangled by these
sanctions.
505
00:44:51,050 --> 00:44:54,570
And if the strikes and the violence
continues, there will be a full -scale
506
00:44:54,570 --> 00:44:55,570
bloody revolution.
507
00:44:57,970 --> 00:44:59,730
The cabinet is unanimous on this.
508
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,900
We want you to retire willingly.
509
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,320
Don't be mistaken.
510
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,620
It is only our might that keeps the lid
on this pressure cooker that is South
511
00:45:08,620 --> 00:45:09,620
Africa.
512
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,040
Take off the lid and you will have
Armageddon.
513
00:45:13,420 --> 00:45:16,980
The problem is most of the party
believes we're dealing with Armageddon
514
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,340
If we do not change course, the blood
will flow ankle deep in our streets.
515
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,100
Four or five million people will lie
dead and the situation will remain
516
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:28,180
the same as it always was.
517
00:45:29,740 --> 00:45:35,080
We need to address the problem now,
before we have an all -out race war.
518
00:45:38,380 --> 00:45:40,860
I feel sorry for all of you.
519
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,200
You will not be able to control the
forces you unleash.
520
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,600
Can you believe it? Both are gone.
521
00:46:09,460 --> 00:46:10,460
What is it?
522
00:46:16,700 --> 00:46:18,240
Oliver had a throat.
523
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,240
They have rushed him to Europe for
treatment, but it's bad.
524
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,680
It seems he is paralyzed down the whole
right -hand side of his body.
525
00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:34,730
And it seems he cannot speak.
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