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Whenever you get into explaining comedy,
there's nothing funny about it.
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We all respected each other. That comes
before love.
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The five of us were very well matched.
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We quickly, quickly gravitated toward
each other.
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There's very, very few I look back and
go, oh, that was a real dud. We did
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pretty good.
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Building those relationships, it's kind
of like you don't want to fall in love
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too fast because maybe it's not real.
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Oh, no.
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This isn't happening.
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What isn't happening? We're out of
coffee.
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The idea for Just Shoot Me came from
when I was working on the Larry Sanders
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show, and I had an idea for an episode
that never got shot.
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My idea for the episode was that Larry
is dating a supermodel, and she comes by
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after the show to pick him up, and he
gets called into an emergency meeting.
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he asks Janine Garofalo's character, you
know what, sit and talk to her, keep
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her company for a while while I'm in my
meeting.
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I thought that...
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would be the most interesting
conversation.
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You know, I've always thought of models
as, I don't know, the enemy?
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But it might be a really hard thing,
schlepping all these magazines, being
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under such heavy scrutiny, always being
judged, hoping someone will hire you.
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And there have been times when I didn't
know if I could make the rent, so I
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think I know what you must be going
through.
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I made $2 million last year.
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I thought, well, what's it like for
people to work around...
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This absolute beauty every day. What
does it do to their own sense of self?
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what role does beauty play in our
society?
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And then at the same time, I kept
hearing stories about these older men
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new families.
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When are you going to accept the fact
that Allie and I are very much in love?
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Very much in love. Is there a special
room where the models go to throw up?
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And then I heard another story about a
man who...
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this German businessman who bought his
daughter the Wilhelmina Modeling Agency.
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So I thought, there again, there was
another place where the family got mixed
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with business, and someone who maybe
didn't absolutely deserve to have
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got placed into a power position, and
what kind of feelings of resentment
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other people have, and it all just sort
of built from there. And then finally,
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we got the go -ahead to start casting
it, and then those characters came to
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life.
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Look what I just got.
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Oh, no, not another gadget.
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It's a laser pointer.
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Now if I need to indicate something, I
just point at it like this.
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Wow, it's just like a finger, only $200
more.
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The original idea for Jack was that he
was much colder than the character that
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came to be.
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And then George walked in the room, and
he's about the warmest man on the
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planet. Well, you ask an actor about the
character that he's playing, and he's
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going to say, well, it mainly comes from
inside. I don't know where that guy
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comes from.
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People talk to you, Levitan talks to
you, the script talks to you, all these
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things talk to you, and then people tell
you, that's too much, come back on
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that, just be more real, keep it real.
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All these things come in, and slowly,
because I didn't have the guy much at
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beginning.
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And then the writers start to respond to
you and the escalating relationship.
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I can do this.
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I mean, how hard is it to assemble a few
pieces of plaque?
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I'll cancel the rest of your week.
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I think in another actor, people really
could have hated Jack Gallo because he
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had a lot of flaws.
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But George made him sweet.
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and lovable.
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And somehow, he just can give you that
little smile, and he can get away with
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murder. This is like retirement acting,
sitcom acting, because the hours are so
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great, and you really only work one day
a week, and the rest of the week, the
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four days, you're finding it. This, you
get a week to make it right.
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That's a real luxury.
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He died.
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I wanted him to be happy with... What I
do.
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I was in constant need of his approval.
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And every time he'd give it to me, it
was worth all the gold in China.
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How long you been with me?
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Eight years.
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No kidding.
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That's longer than any of my marriages.
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I think George wound up being a real
fatherly figure because he was in the
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as Jack Gallop.
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We hung out so much, and I never saw
that coming. I didn't really know him,
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I knew his stuff, and he always made fun
of me. He goes, who's afraid of
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Virginia Woolf, mother?
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All right?
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You want to see that?
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What are you, a Tommy boy in black?
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Is it the International Labor Board?
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Mr. Lee, please. It's Maya Gallo.
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Yes, I called earlier about the garment
workers' piece. Maya, come quick. Yes, I
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know he's busy, but this is important.
Maya, Maya.
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Sorry? Maya, Maya. Yes, thank you. Maya.
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Oh, hi, Dad. I was just pretending to
have a very important conversation on
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play phone.
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In Maya, we needed somebody who could
embody a sense of purpose and
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righteousness, self -righteousness.
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But also have a sexy side that's just in
there, deep beneath the surface. That
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part of her, that's what Jack gave to
her. Who had a sex dream? I want
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My idea about Elliot.
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You people are thick.
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Certainly in the first couple of
seasons, it was a very...
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heavily, the story was very heavy father
-daughter.
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And so I did feel a great
responsibility.
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And also, the people who do this medium,
this sitcom medium, they do it well,
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they make it look easy, and it's not
that easy.
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You really showed me something today,
the way you stayed focused.
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Well, in college, I was the only one
coherent enough to order the pizza.
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I'm going to choose not to understand
that remark.
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Well, it was such a pleasure to be able
to go delve into this father -daughter
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relationship. I felt like we tried to
make it as real as possible and really
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after each other. And it was very alive.
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It was very real.
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And I always felt this sense of relief
when I was going in that office.
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As an actor, something really
interesting is going to happen here.
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Maya is so important to Just Shoot Me
because she's...
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The center of it. She's the grounding of
that show.
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She's the sort of the touchstone that
the audience could say, yeah, well, I
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where she's coming from. These people
are crazy.
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And Laura, you know, brings a real sense
of reality to it. On a scale of nine to
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ten, how much did you miss me? If nine
is not at all, then four.
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Laura is this tough, not so tough, but
this girl from New Jersey who has a body
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of work that makes you go.
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I need to be on my toes, and I need to
take this serious, and I need to bring
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what I consider my best to the table
because my company is awesome, and I
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not be the weakest link.
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Laura and I had worked together before.
We did a play together in New York ten
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years before that, and I adored her, but
she was the only one I knew.
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You know, dear, you can understand why I
didn't recognize you. I mean, there is
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virtually no resemblance. Go away.
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Ah, there it is.
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She was...
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my little sister, and I will always
think of her that way.
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Hello, smelliest.
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I ran into Krista at the Mizrahi
reception.
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She says she hates you.
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Krista?
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Doesn't ring a bell.
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Oh no, tall, brunette, gorgeous, hate
your guts.
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I meet so many models.
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She said she'd like to tie you to a post
and beat you with an old rubber hose.
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Oh, Krista.
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Elliot is an artist. He thinks in visual
terms.
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That brought up the whole subject of
beauty and why is it okay to want a
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beautiful woman. And for him, he's
saying, well, that is okay because I
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visually. At its core, here was a guy
who cared about his art. And that, in a
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nutshell. This is Rico. Well, good luck
with those resumes.
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Oh, me?
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Back to the thong mines.
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I had just finished a show for NBC that
was short -lived.
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And this show came right at its heels.
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And it was the character of Elliot that
was so wonderful because he was the
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exact opposite of what I just played.
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Look, we all know the only reason you
get girls is because you're a big
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photographer.
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Oh, yeah, if that helps you sleep at
night.
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What is it, your uncanny resemblance to
an aging Charlie Brown?
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Rico wound up being a good buddy of mine
because he is so sensitive and such an
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actor and so touchy -feely and all the
stuff you would never expect.
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And I'm not really like that. He'd
always come and hug me and make me hug
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He goes, I know this track's crazy. I
gotta hug you, I gotta hug you. But he's
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great actor. He would do plays during
the show and we'd all go out and see
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He'd go, Davey, you don't have to come.
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It's Hamlet or it's Shakespeare.
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And I'd be like, no. And I'd go and I'd
sit in the back and get on my pager.
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Honey, I don't know who your agent is,
but you need to grow six inches, lose 20
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pounds, and find a hairdresser who gave
up cocaine with everyone else.
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Somewhere at home, I still have my
original sheet of casting ideas on the
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page of the pilot, and it says, you
know, Nina Van Horn, think Wendy Malick,
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older. Because I thought that Nina
should have been past her prime.
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What it turned out is that it was so
much better that she wasn't.
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past her prime, that she was still
sexually viable, that she was still
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attractive, because otherwise it would
have been sad, I think.
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I was in Phoenix doing a movie in the
desert and got a phone call from Steve
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Levitan saying, I'm doing this strange
little pilot and I'm looking for an
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Wendy Malick to play this role of Nina
Van Horn.
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And I'm not sure this is something you
want to do because she is a woman who is
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kicking and screaming her way into
middle age.
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And he said, would you be at all
interested in that? And initially I
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I'm not sure that's where I want to go
right now.
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I was the Noxzema gotcha girl.
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You know, he gotcha.
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Yeah, well, ask your parents.
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I remember that there was this point, we
did this scene together and we got
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these huge laughs and we were screaming
like after the scene, girls rock, girls
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make comedy.
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Because sometimes comedy is such a boys
club.
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Listen, if it's okay with you, I would
really love to throw you a birthday
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party. Really? I was thinking hammer
hands might be fun.
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Oh, uh -huh. Kind of like the way pink
eye might be fun.
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Or we could go to the box. Oh, that
place that all the hobos live in.
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Or I could give it a little more
thought.
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Or any thought.
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So we were very happy when we would get
paired together.
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It would be like, ooh, we get to work
together this week. Because it was kind
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rare that they would let us have a
storyline where we were on the same
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where it wasn't just her jabbing me and
me making moral judgments about her
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life. To me, she was someone who...
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was still living in the 70s in her mind.
She just never quite got past that
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time. It was her favorite time, and she
just carried on as if it were still
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about 1975.
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I resent that.
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I slept around because I was
promiscuous, not ambitious.
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I do remember that very early on we made
the conscious decision that Nina is not
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going to be politically correct.
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She is going to drink. She is going to
sleep around.
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She is going to be a symbol of the...
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disco party lifestyle of the 70s when
she was in her prime.
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I just asked Jack a question about the
cover, and you know what he said?
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What? He said, ask Maya.
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Oh, well, you know, so unfair. I've
worked here for nine years, three of
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practically sober.
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When we first went on the air, NBC was
known as the Family Network.
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And when I started, when I first came to
this, I asked Steve, I said, look, are
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you going to keep this woman as edgy as
she was written in the pilot?
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That's what drew me to this. I mean, I
am a living example of what you should
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not do as a woman. And he said, no, if
we go down, we're going down in flames.
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But I'm not compromising on this. And
the network had some real problems. At
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point, they went up to him and said,
we're concerned about Nina's drinking
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problem. And he said, what problem? She
just likes to drink.
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Hey, you.
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You're an intern, right?
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Yes. Sir, I came here to learn the
magazine business.
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I go to school in Wisconsin.
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Go think, Buck.
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Actually, we're the Badgers.
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Oh, imagine my embarrassment.
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Now give me your tie.
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In the original pilot, there was an
assistant, but it was a really small
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And I kept thinking to myself that we're
a character short.
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I mean, really, we looked at it and
we're like, we really only have four
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characters. It just feels like there
would be a fifth person in the mix.
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And then one day, Brad Gray, called me
up and said, well, what would you think
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of David Spade?
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I was just finished Saturday Night Live.
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I came back to California, and my
manager, Brad Gray, had this show.
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And Brad said, why don't you watch it,
and I don't know what you're doing next,
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now that Saturday Night Live's over, but
why don't you check it out? And I
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watched about five minutes of it, and
I'm like, yeah, you know, I could fit
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right in there. So we set up a meeting,
and it only took really about 17, 18
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meetings.
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To get David to commit.
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But eventually, finally, David committed
to the project.
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And we just basically started writing
Dennis Finch for David Spade.
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Hi, Dennis Finch. Let me take a little
look -see through your book -see. Maybe
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can help you out.
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Ooh, nice body.
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Not that nightmare -before -Christmas
look that's going around.
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Ooh, I like the pout here. Very naughty.
Shows you can be a bad girl.
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Whoa! Nude shot.
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Bad idea.
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He really is a combination of some of
the characters that David has played in
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the past and who David is.
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I couldn't believe what it was like. I'm
like, they're writing me jokes. And
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even if they're not right for me, I can
just make them up. That's actually the
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best thing I do is make up stuff right
there. So I just show up. Boop, boop,
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boop. Say my jokes. Hey, Nina, you're
slutty. And hey, Laura, your
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boobs are large.
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And in the end, the love you take is
equal to the love you make.
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Why did you come in here?
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I had to hug you in a sweater.
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You know, craft service, where you get
coffee and everything, was right by the
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door. And I remember David, like,
entering the threshold of the stage, and
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were all sort of near the door and
coming over the door and...
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He hadn't even entered the stage, we
hadn't started working, and we were
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all doubled over laughing hysterically.
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And that's the way our day started every
day.
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Whenever I think of David, I just sort
of think of him. He fits like right here
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under my armpit, especially when I have
high heels on. So he would just come in
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and sort of climb in there and get safe.
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And said he sort of felt like a koala
bear and I was the eucalyptus tree.
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When he's saying the koala bear and the
tree, it's a little more G -rated than
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I'd say. So let's just stick with that
one.
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All right. I need the Versace layout,
the circulation numbers, and who wrote
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this month's sex quiz. It's too easy.
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Well, when you've been cramming for it
your whole life.
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Ah, yeah.
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Surprise.
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Yeah, sure is.
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Come on in.
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Don't you have a birthday coming up?
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Yeah, in about 11 and a half months.
Good. I was afraid I missed it.
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So we shot a first pilot, and there were
some things wrong.
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Number one, David Spade wasn't in the
first pilot.
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It was already a show. It was already
shot.
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Everyone was in it but me.
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They took it to New York for the
advertisers to say, we're NBC, here's
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our new shows. And when Laura got out
there to do that, they got cold feet at
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the last second.
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And boom, they decided at the last
minute to put suddenly Susan.
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instead of us. She was bummed, so they
were like, it's just, there's something,
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it needs a little more, we're not quite
sure.
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So they let him rewrite the pilot,
reshoot it, got through some bumps there
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because it was a little goofy at first,
but it was better with five people. It
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made sense, more to bounce off of, this
and that.
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Jack had someone to play off of, Wendy,
it was great.
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This shot's perfect.
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Let's see.
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Uh -oh, nipple.
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Give it.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's Waldo.
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Basically, it was just hard for me to
figure out where to go in the show. So
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putting me as the assistant in the front
was strategic so I could make fun of
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Laura, Wendy walking by, George when he
comes in, and anybody that came in the
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office. So it worked out great.
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The first pilot, which was the pre
-David Fade pilot, I had this really
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staircase, and I was really attached to
it. It was absolutely beautiful.
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And I bitched about losing that
staircase for seven years because I
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really thought it was... I mean, I made
the greatest entrance of all time. I got
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to descend a spiral staircase, much like
Loretta Young.
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And they took that away from me when
they changed the set.
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So I had a little problem with that.
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They try to get innovative, as you do.
You say, well, this is going to be
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any other series that's ever been done.
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Well, that proved, among other things,
impractical. And I'm sure there were
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other things that I was not privy to.
But that set changed, and it became like
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other sitcoms. It became like office
sets. There are certain things you have
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do, but you have to make those
discoveries yourself.
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They made it better.
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The difference was like, first there's
night, and then there's day.
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I couldn't be...
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clearer and then i don't know what
happened between that and davy coming on
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board but suddenly having him on the
show well it took the pressure off
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everybody else to be funny first of all
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what are you guys doing
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we're deciding which of these women we'd
like to sleep with really well i
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thought we were saying which women we'd
already slept with
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Our first season was only six episodes.
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So it's strange when you're working in a
vacuum. You have something, you don't
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know what it is exactly.
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We have no feedback yet, really, other
than from the audience that comes.
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And they don't really know the
characters at all. So you don't really
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good character jokes, those jokes where
they know, oh boy, this is going to be
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good because he's walking in because
they don't even know who he is.
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I mean, we tried some really daring
shows for the first six.
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I mean, there are...
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I mean, we did that thing where Finch
falls into the monkey cage at the zoo. I
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mean, that's pretty bold, and the whole
cast accidentally gets pretty wasted.
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That was something for the first six.
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But ultimately, really, really funny
episodes.
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Lemon Wacky, hello?
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It's supposed to be delicious. My cab
driver told me about it when I
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inadvertently tipped him a year's
salary.
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What's in it?
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Well, I could tell you what we used.
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It was dry mango.
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What was in the candy?
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Some sort of hallucinogen, I believe.
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PCP. It was heroin.
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Angel dust.
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Or maybe LSD.
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Maybe. I think lemon wacky hello is a
combination of acid and ecstasy and top
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ramen noodles.
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Oh, we should have been dead.
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It was a kind of psychedelic, but you
can't say that on...
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but I assume we played it like it was a
psychedelic. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
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What's going on? I don't know. I haven't
felt this way since 1969 to 1978.
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I think Nina tells us exactly what was
in it. It was like a five -syllable
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and Wendy could not get this. I'm sorry,
Wendy.
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It's a funny story. It's not about you
not being able to get your line.
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But she had to have it written down
somewhere.
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So there was a word that was like eight
syllables that was one of the
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ingredients in lemon wacky, and I just
couldn't get it, so I finally had them
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write it down.
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It's a hallucinogen, probably in the
opium family, most likely affecting the
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dopamine neurotransmitters in the
cerebral cortex.
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I used to date Timothy Leary.
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But I didn't have things written down
nearly as much as George did.
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Oh, I shouldn't have said that, should
I?
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They did not want to show that episode.
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And I remember they were going to show
five out of the six of them.
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And the ratings were so good, they
squeezed it in as the last, I think it
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the last one or the fourth one or
something.
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But they didn't know how to deal with
that one.
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Does anyone else feel weird?
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I feel fine.
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My God, your pores are gigantic.
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We had to find this tone that wouldn't
be offensive to censors, but would still
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tell the story.
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So we did a lot of thinking on our feet
and a lot of collaboration with the
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writers, and also it was the birth of
our first in -joke as a cast.
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Now it's perfect!
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Which was Rico saying... Maya?
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Yes? Board fell.
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Board fell.
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Board fell. Board fell.
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Board drop. Maybe that was Rico saying
that.
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Again, we'll all remember differently.
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Uh -oh! What?
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Board fell!
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So Board Fell went on for about a year
after that, and there's something about
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when you have your first in -joke, then
you're starting to become this
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cohesive sort of amoeba of a cast.
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You know, in hindsight, it probably was
a really great...
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you know, third season episode.
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But we had the idea then.
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So let's do it.
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9 .45, it's official. We now have a
crisis on our hands. Dennis, what's the
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update? Still no word on where your
bagel is.
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But the deli said somebody did leave an
hour ago. It's one block away. What are
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they doing, rolling it here?
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Well, I was saving my breakfast until
later, but I don't mind sharing.
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We all respected what each of the other
of us could do. You make room for
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everybody. Well, that's ideal. It
happens very rarely in life, and it
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very rarely on sitcoms. There are
sitcoms, as we all know, where there's a
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of friction and conflict going on and
envy and all the green things.
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So this worked really well.
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It's really a compliment that people
still come up to me and say, I watch the
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show every night.
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It's a stress reliever for me. Thank you
so much for making me laugh.
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And that's really great.
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I think we all will always feel good
about these seven years because we did
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really good work and we played really
hard together.
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And we have an incredible mutual
respect, all of us, including the crew.
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Of course, it's hard to single out one
thing because I'm proud of the
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friendships and I'm proud of the
longevity of the show. But the whole
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taught me how to have fun, to not take
oneself so serious.
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and to acknowledge the responsibility
that you have as a performer.
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I'm just really glad that I got on
something where I kind of thought it was
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funny every week, you know? I think it's
a combination of things.
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I'm probably most proud of that the show
is considered a hit, that we set out to
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do what we wanted to do, which was do a
good show and be able to do it for a
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long time. But I'm just as glad that...
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For seven years, people had a fantastic
place to go to work.
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