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STEVEN SPIELBERG:
I'm in Wilshire Boulevard,
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and I just came
across a theater
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that has a very apropos sign.
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If you can read it,
the sign says
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"Robert Shaw in Jaws."
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Also, "Take the Money
and Run."
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That's pretty funny,
wouldn't you say?
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Well, there were
all sorts of reasons
for people going in,
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but the people coming out,
they were ecstatic.
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Smoking lounge is sold out,
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seats downstairs in
the first seven rows only.
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I was in New York at the time,
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and I went with
two friends of mine,
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Janet Maslin
and Albert Brooks.
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The three of us
were in the car,
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going over to the Rivoli
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to see if there
might be a line.
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MAN 1:
The ticket holders' line
went on and on.
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It became this spectacle.
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I kept thinking,
"Who are the lucky people
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that made this
movie?" (LAUGHS)
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This shark, swallow you whole.
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WOMAN 1: Was it good?
Very tasty.
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Bloody as hell.
All these people
got eaten up, you know.
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They just... Ah!
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The best I've seen in my life,
the best movie.
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MAN 2: Fifty years,
and we've come so far.
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We're still talking about Jaws
and the effect and value
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of what that movie
said and still says.
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I'll never forget
walking into the theater,
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and all the lobby cards
were on the wall.
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And I thought, (GASPS)
"That shark is huge."
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Part of the film's charm today
is almost the nostalgia factor
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of remembering
what it was like
to see it then.
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(SCREAMS)
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It was sort of life-changing.
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At nine years old,
I don't remember
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having an experience
that was that visceral
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and that thrilling.
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The whole theater reacted
like a musical instrument.
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Ahhh!
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I read the book first,
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so I sort of knew
what I was gonna see.
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MAN 3: Peter Benchley
wrote a book called Jaws.
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A film was
made from the book.
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It has already
made more money
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than any motion picture
in history.
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(LAUGHS)
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It was the first blockbuster.
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(SCREAMING)
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I've seen Jaws
in a theater 31 times.
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I was 12, and this started me
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thinking about
a career in movies.
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MAN 4: ls this
your first time?
Ninth time.
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Your how many?
Nine.
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It's the film
I've seen the most,
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and I could still watch it
if it's on any time.
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Who are you?
Matt Hooper.
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I'm from the
Oceanographic Institute.
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I wanted to be Matt Hooper.
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I wanted to be
a shark scientist.
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That's a 20-footer.
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Twenty-five.
Three tons of him.
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WOMAN 2: Jaws has been
an inspiration,
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and there is
a completely different
attitude now
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about sharks and the ocean.
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In 50 years, it's been used
in so many different ways.
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It was a time when movies
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were at the pinnacle
of a cultural conversation.
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I loved Jaws. I really did.
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Because it didn't
eat up no Black people.
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(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
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You said that there
are very few perfect movies.
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I think Jaws fits into that.
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MAN 5: ls that movie
gonna keep you
out of the water?
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It'll keep me out
for a while. (LAUGHS)
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I definitely won't
be going in now.
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MAN 5: Ever again?
Never.
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I was one of those people
who, in a bath,
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would have a hard time
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not picturing a shark
underneath me.
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NARRATOR: it is as if God
created the devil
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and gave him Jaws.
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See it before you go swimming.
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For me, the story of Jaws
is the fact that a movie
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that I thought would
really end my career
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is the film that began it.
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INTERVIEWER: Steven,
50 years since Jaws.
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When you hear that,
what do you think?
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When I hear 50 years...
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MAN 1: Roll sound.
SPIELBERG: ...I think of home.
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Because the theme of home
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is so consistent
with the story of Jaws.
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It's about getting home.
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(ALL SINGING)
Show me the way to go home
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SPIELBERG:
About returning home...
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(SIGHS) Can we
go home now?
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SPIELBERG:
And already being home.
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MARTIN BRODY:
Want to take him home?
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Like to New York?
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No, home here.
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SPIELBERG: So when
I look back at Jaws today,
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at those moments
of difficulty...
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Was there good movement
like that?
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SPIELBERG: The film wound up
100 days behind schedule.
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The shark was not working...
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MAN 2: No, cut, cut!
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SPIELBERG:
...and I was terrified
I was gonna be fired.
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All I thought about
was going home. (CHUCKLES)
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INTERVIEWER:
ls there anything that you've
never said about Jaws?
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(SPIELBERG LAUGHS)
Let's find out.
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Steven, how old are you?
Quantos anos tienes?
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Twenty-seven.
Veintisiete.
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How long have you been
in the motion picture
industry?
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(SPEAKS SPANISH)
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( IN ENGLISH) Oh, I've been
professionally making movies
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since I was 21.
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MAN 3: I have always
had an incredible belief
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in Steven's ability
to do material
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that sometimes
others questioned.
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There may have been occasions
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when I had a belief
in Steven's ability
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to make material that exceeded
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Steven's conviction
about the material.
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And I never had
any doubt in my mind
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that Steven would
do a great job.
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MAN 4:
Steve used to hang around
the film department at USC
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and so that's where I met him.
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He was always coming over
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to see if he could
find a cameraman
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or somebody who could help him
with the student films.
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So when Steve did Duel
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and it was like
a feature film for television,
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I said,
"Wow, this is fantastic."
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(TRUCK HONKING)
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DEL TORO:
Duel opened in Mexico
as a feature.
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And I remember
seeing it in the drive-in,
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and people clapped
with their horns.
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(CHUCKLES)
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I met Steven
for the first time
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when he brought
Sugarland Express
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to the USC Film School.
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WOMAN 1: I want my baby back.
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Now, are you gonna
help me or not?
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ZEMECKIS: I couldn't believe
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that this really
young filmmaker
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made a movie on that scale.
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He became instantly my hero.
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CROWE: I held filmmakers
and directors off
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as people that existed
in another world.
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And I remember feeling
like Spielberg was a guy
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who was kind of from
my side of the world.
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And that was the beginning
of me feeling like,
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"Maybe I could do
something like this, too."
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He had made his bones
as a director
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long before he did Jaws.
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I think we all felt
that this was somebody
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who was going places.
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But not until Jaws
was there any idea
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of how big this could get.
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I didn't know what
I wanted to do next.
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I had been wanting
to do a UFO movie,
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not yet called
Close Encounters
of the Third Kind,
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but that was sort of
all I had in my mind.
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And I was also
in post-production
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on Sugarland Express.
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I had gone
into Richard Zanuck
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at his partner
David Brown's office
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many, many times.
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When I saw a stack of papers
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in the outer office,
and it was galleys.
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I looked at the top sheet
and it said
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Jaws by Peter Benchley.
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And I had no idea
what that meant, Jaws.
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I mean, was it
the history of dentistry?
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I read it
and I was enthralled.
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And if I read
Peter Benchley's Jaws
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for the first time right now,
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I would have the same
rush of excitement
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that I had when
I first read the galleys.
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Because, in a way,
Jaws was a sequel to Duel.
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Duel was this murderous
leviathan on the highway
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trying to kill this
traveling salesman
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in a little car.
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And Jaws is the story
of this leviathan of the sea
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that is rending this seaside
resort into bankruptcy
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unless they hire somebody
to kill the threat.
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When I wrote
a novel called Jaws,
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I was faced with
a fascinating challenge.
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How to describe the instincts
of an ancient animal
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that threatens modern man
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with the most horrible
of deaths.
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Most people, when they hear
about Jaws and they realize
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what a culture-changing event
that was,
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they want to know,
how did my dad come up
with the idea?
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What I've always
heard from him was,
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growing up as
a New York City boy,
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born and raised in New York...
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He also spent
the summers in Nantucket
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fishing with his dad.
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I grew up on
a neighboring island,
Nantucket,
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where I first
encountered sharks.
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We used to fish for swordfish,
but they were rare,
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and we caught sharks instead.
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Not only did he see
a lot of sharks
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when he was
fishing with his dad,
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but he also
knew what it was like
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to live on an island.
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Our father explained
what it means to grow up
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in a community
like Amity or Nantucket,
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and he talked about islanders.
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And by islander,
I don't mean a year-rounder.
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To be an Islander,
you have to have
been born here,
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and nothing short
of reincarnation
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can change your status.
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When do I get to
become an Islander?
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Ellen, never. Never!
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Before writing Jaws,
I had had
very little experience
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in the water with sharks.
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I knew a lot
about them academically.
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I'd studied them
since I was a child,
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but I really had no experience
with sharks at all underwater.
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And then
Blue Water, White Death
came out.
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MAN 1: Oh, he's gotta be 12.
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MAN 2: Yeah, at least 12.
Look at his back.
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BOTH: Oh!
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I first started diving
in the early '50s,
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and then a little bit
later on,
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I got a 16-millimeter
movie camera
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and was shooting film
for television,
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and people wanted
to see sharks.
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WOMAN 2: it was
in about 1965 or '67
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where we first started to work
with great white sharks.
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Nobody else in the world
had ever done it before.
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There, look at him.
Sitting on top of the cage.
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Eventually, Peter Gimbel
wanted to make a film,
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and he employed us
to work on it.
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You couldn't believe.
It's fantastic.
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Peter Benchley saw
Blue Water, White Death
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and that was
one of the reasons
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that he got the idea
for writing Jaws.
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Peter also had seen
Frank Mundus,
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who caught a huge
4,500-pound, 18-foot shark
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off of Long Island.
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So Peter,
with his imagination,
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put all of that together
and thought,
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"What would it be like
if one of those sharks
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"just randomly decided
to stay in one place?"
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SKERRY: Peter eventually
researched the science.
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He knew these animals,
he understood their behavior.
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But if you read the book,
the animal is not a villain.
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It is doing what it does.
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And he created characters
who could represent
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both a hardened
shark fisherman like Quint...
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I wrote the character
of Quint as a man who begins
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with great contempt
for sharks,
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and is finally
obsessed with
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and driven to kill
this particular one.
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SKERRY:
And he created a PhD
scientist like Hooper
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who understands
this is just an animal.
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That doesn't make it
good or bad, it just is.
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It's part of nature.
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Peter filled in
all these other stories
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about Brody and his wife
and the affair with Hooper
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and all the stuff
with the Mafia
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because that added texture
and depth to the story.
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WENDY:
Really, one of the most
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humorous things, though,
about the book,
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was finding the title.
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There are several pages
of suggested titles,
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and Peter and Wendy
and our parents
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were struggling over
what to call it.
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Oh, we had pretentious ones
like "Leviathan Rising,"
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and then we had ones...
"The Terror of the Deep."
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And Peter's father said,
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"I know what
we should call it."
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"What's That Noshin'
On My Leg?"
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(LAUGHS)
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And this went on for months.
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None of them quite worked.
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NAT: The day the book
was to go to press,
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Tom Congdon
from Doubleday said,
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"I hate to bother
you about this,
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"but we kind of need a title."
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Peter said. "Yeah, we've been
worrying about that,
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"and the only thing
that comes to mind
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"that has pleased everybody
is the word 'jaws."'
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Congdon said,
"Okay, what's it mean?"
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He said, "I don't know,
but it's short."
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The cover of Jaws
was really difficult.
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The dust jackets
for the books evolved.
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The first one was Amity,
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like an idyllic island
in between the shark jaws.
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And they scrapped that one.
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And then they did a version
of the shark underneath her.
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And the shark
wasn't very scary.
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It was a little
too phallic-looking.
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You know, what you wanna say
is a penis with teeth, right?
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That's exactly
what it looked like.
(CHUCKLES)
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NICOTERO: And that's when
Roger Kastel came in
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and created that painting
for the paperback.
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And then Universal
used the same painting,
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which is probably one
of the perfect movie posters.
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Jaws was rocketing up
the bestseller list in 1974.
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And then when
the paperback came out,
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it was a multi-million
bestseller.
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Peter just wanted
to get a novel written,
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and when his agent
came and said
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the movie people were
interested in optioning it,
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he said, "I don't care.
Sell them the option."
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WENDY: it was
Helen Gurley Brown
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who was the editor
of Cosmopolitan magazine,
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who gave it to her husband,
David Brown, a producer.
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And he and
Richard Zanuck bought it,
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and the rest is history
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Just by reading
the book, the last...
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I think it was
110 pages of the novel,
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the hunt for the shark.
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It was so enthralling
and so suspenseful.
MAN: Yeah.
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You know, it's
frightened me so much.
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And I was so angry
at being frightened,
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that I wanted
to frighten back.
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"I'll make this movie
and scare them all back."
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SPIELBERG: When I read it,
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I went to Dick and David's
office on Monday
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and I said,
"Do you have a director?
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"Because I would
love to direct this."
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And they said,
"Oh, my goodness,
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"there's already
a director assigned."
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Peter was part of the process
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of interviewing various people
to be the director,
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and remember that
there was one director
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who called the shark
a whale all the time.
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So he was out.
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(PHONE RINGING)
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SPIELBERG: A week or so later,
Dick and David called me
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and they said,
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"It's available.
Do you still want to do it?
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I was as hungry,
as the shark was hungry,
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to tell the story of Jaws.
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And I didn't know how
it was going to be done,
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how it could be done.
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But my instincts told me
that it needed authenticity
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so the shark wouldn't
get laughed at.
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When I made Duel,
the studio tried to get me
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to do the whole thing
on process stage
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with screens out
the windows of the car.
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And I basically said
I'd rather not make Duel
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if I have to go
and do it all fake
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on a soundstage,
using rear projection.
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And I felt the same way
about Jaws.
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I wanted to go
to the natural environment,
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so there was some
kind of verisimilitude,
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so it needed to be
in the ocean, out to sea.
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And so I knew somehow
it had to be done on location.
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You know as an
audience member,
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when something is real
and when something is not.
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And that choice
to shoot in open water,
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the audience wins.
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Because when you
see these characters
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surrounded in
complete isolation,
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the loneliness of them,
we feel that, we're scared.
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If you really
think about Jaws,
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it really is an exercise
in pushing the boundaries.
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Like, they could have made
that movie on the backlot
or in a tank,
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and it would have been
a very, very different movie.
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But they were
pushing the art form.
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At the same time
as Jaws was made,
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you saw this new crop
of unbelievable talent
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coming in to Hollywood
in the '70s
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that challenged
every assumption
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of what was possible,
and challenged everything.
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1974.
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(PEOPLE LAUGHING)
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In 1974, when I started
making Jaws,
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my focus was
trying to figure out
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how to adapt the novel.
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I had never experienced
adapting a novel before.
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And Peter Benchley
wrote the first three drafts
of the screenplay,
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admitted that
a screenplay and a novel
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are two different
kettles of fish.
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That was
a completely different
kind of writing for him.
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So he put a lot of effort
into the screenplay
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and did it a couple of
different times.
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And then various
other writers came in.
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David Brown said,
"Why not Howard Sackler?
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"He's a great writer.
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"He won a Pulitzer
for The Great White Hope."
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I was thinking
Great White Hope,
great white shark.
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That makes sense.
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He created the structure.
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And then after that,
for a comedy punch up,
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I wanted to bring
my friend Carl Gottlieb along
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to just try to find some
lightness and some humor
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between these three
disparate characters.
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The mate. Where's the mate?
The mate is dead.
We'll have to...
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Where's the body?
Why is the boat
torn to pieces?
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Because it's
a great white shark.
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GOTTLIEB: Nice thing was,
I was able to write
a nice part for myself.
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I play Meadows,
the editor of the newspaper.
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I want to get on
the state wire services,
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see if Boston will
pick it up and go national.
403
00:16:55,305 --> 00:16:56,640
Call Dave Axelrod in New York,
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tell him he owes me
a favor, all right?
405
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And Steven sent me a script
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with a note on the cover
saying, "Eviscerate it."
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00:17:04,105 --> 00:17:06,149
We decided to lose
the love interest
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because it was in a movie
409
00:17:07,817 --> 00:17:09,277
that was a straight-line
adventure film
410
00:17:09,361 --> 00:17:10,737
about the shark
and the town
411
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and the, uh...
the, uh... the hunt.
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The film became much more
a story of Chief Brody,
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a kind of reluctant hero,
in this case,
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tested by the elements,
by nature itself.
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This is a great white,
Larry, a big one.
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And any shark expert
in the world will tell you
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it's a killer.
It's a man eater.
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CAMERON: The great white shark
was not well-understood
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by the public at large
when the film first came out.
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And it became this
kind of mythical beast.
421
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What we are
dealing with here
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is a perfect engine,
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uh, an eating machine.
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MAN: I've never seen
anything as perfect
as a great white shark.
425
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What really strikes you
426
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when you see a great white
shark in person
427
00:17:51,069 --> 00:17:52,612
is not just how long
they can be,
428
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but how big
around they are.
429
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Great whites
are one of the most
epic predators
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that you'll ever
find in the wild.
431
00:18:01,121 --> 00:18:04,249
They're essentially governors
in the way that they control
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the sizes of all the
populations beneath them.
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VAUGHN: And what did you say
the name of the shark is?
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It's a carcharodon carcharias.
It's a great white.
435
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The great white shark
is a species
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that has been described
all over the world
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in many different ways.
438
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From man eater
to white pointer
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to great white shark.
440
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I remember seeing the shark
in Jaws for the first time
441
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and being completely
blown away
442
00:18:33,945 --> 00:18:36,948
at how realistic it looked,
how large it was,
443
00:18:37,032 --> 00:18:39,618
how impressive
and truly authentic
444
00:18:39,701 --> 00:18:42,287
to what white sharks
actually look like.
445
00:18:43,288 --> 00:18:46,625
This animal still looks
just as good as anything
446
00:18:46,708 --> 00:18:48,585
that's coming out today
if not better,
447
00:18:48,668 --> 00:18:51,421
relying almost exclusively
on practical effects.
448
00:18:54,716 --> 00:18:56,843
INTERVIEWER: So, Joe,
tell me, where are we?
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ALVES:
Well, this is what I call
the art department.
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This is sort of my home base.
451
00:19:09,939 --> 00:19:13,777
These are the concept sketches
that I did early on
452
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before we had
a finished script.
453
00:19:16,863 --> 00:19:19,616
What happened was
David Brown called me
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and he said,
"Joe, we think Jaws
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"might make a damn good movie
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00:19:23,662 --> 00:19:25,413
"if we could
sort of illustrate
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"the activity of the shark."
458
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So he said, "Just give me
a couple dozen illustrations
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00:19:31,795 --> 00:19:33,546
"of the shark activity."
460
00:19:33,630 --> 00:19:36,424
I pretty well did these
as it's described
461
00:19:36,508 --> 00:19:37,967
in the galley sheets.
462
00:19:39,219 --> 00:19:42,972
Joe Alves designed
drawings of a shark
463
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that he could
put up against the wall
464
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in a production office.
465
00:19:46,142 --> 00:19:48,228
He did an 18-foot long shark.
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He did a 26-foot long shark.
467
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He did a 32-foot long shark.
468
00:19:54,567 --> 00:19:56,569
These are full-size drawings.
469
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And we had to evaluate,
470
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"Which one do we commit to,
which one do we build?"
471
00:20:00,198 --> 00:20:03,451
And for me, the 18-foot shark
was not that intimidating.
472
00:20:04,077 --> 00:20:08,748
But the 32-foot long shark
was not realistic,
473
00:20:08,832 --> 00:20:10,750
and it would've turned
the genre of the film
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into science fantasy.
475
00:20:13,420 --> 00:20:16,464
The 26-foot-long shark
was just right,
476
00:20:16,548 --> 00:20:17,549
I thought, for Jaws.
477
00:20:19,217 --> 00:20:22,178
ALVES: October 1st, 1973.
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Marshall Green had a meeting.
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He was the head of production
at Universal.
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And he said, "Okay, Joe,
can you make the shark?"
481
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I says, "Yeah,
I certainly could try."
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He says, "Okay, find somebody
and make it off the lot.
483
00:20:34,899 --> 00:20:36,985
And somebody
recommended Bob Mattey,
484
00:20:37,068 --> 00:20:39,320
and I found Bob
and put a crew together.
485
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To the ingenious shark
building team.
Cheers.
486
00:20:42,157 --> 00:20:44,659
Bob and Whitey.
Yeah.
487
00:20:44,743 --> 00:20:46,828
Whitey doesn't like to turn
around and look at the camera,
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he's camera shy.
( INDISTINCT)
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00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:50,623
Right. Okay, just for Steve.
490
00:20:50,749 --> 00:20:51,958
Final pose here.
(LAUGHS)
491
00:20:52,041 --> 00:20:53,168
One in a million.
492
00:20:53,251 --> 00:20:54,753
ALVES: We got seven
in the crew.
493
00:20:54,836 --> 00:20:56,379
I called them
the Magnificent Seven.
494
00:20:56,463 --> 00:20:58,965
MAN: Joe Alves?
(GROANS) Yes.
495
00:20:59,883 --> 00:21:01,342
And we started
building the shark.
496
00:21:04,137 --> 00:21:06,473
Bob Mattey was
taken out of retirement
497
00:21:06,556 --> 00:21:07,849
to create the creature,
498
00:21:07,932 --> 00:21:10,685
the great white shark
and its many incarnations.
499
00:21:11,394 --> 00:21:14,856
ALVES: What we needed was
a shark to go left to right,
500
00:21:14,939 --> 00:21:16,691
and one to go right to left.
501
00:21:17,942 --> 00:21:19,819
And then one on a big crane.
502
00:21:21,488 --> 00:21:23,698
So we had three sharks
to build.
503
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:28,369
BROWN: A shed was set up
in the San Fernando Valley.
504
00:21:28,453 --> 00:21:29,954
It was like making Apollo.
505
00:21:30,038 --> 00:21:32,248
It was like a new invention.
506
00:21:32,999 --> 00:21:34,834
NICOTERO: Bob Mattey,
he had the chops.
507
00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:38,546
And the fact that he had built
all this other great stuff,
508
00:21:39,464 --> 00:21:42,550
like the 20,000 Leagues
Under the Sea giant squid.
509
00:21:43,343 --> 00:21:44,594
He knew how to build it.
510
00:21:44,677 --> 00:21:47,013
So, yeah, in theory,
it'll work.
511
00:21:47,847 --> 00:21:50,099
SPIELBERG:
I thought it'd be fun
to nickname the shark
512
00:21:50,183 --> 00:21:51,768
after my attorney,
Bruce Ramer.
513
00:21:51,851 --> 00:21:53,895
So I started calling
the shark Bruce.
514
00:21:53,978 --> 00:21:55,688
And then in the shark shed,
515
00:21:55,772 --> 00:21:58,274
where Whitey and Bob Mattey
everybody else was working,
516
00:21:58,358 --> 00:22:00,068
they started calling
the shark Bruce.
517
00:22:00,151 --> 00:22:02,904
And then everybody forgot
why it was being called Bruce.
518
00:22:02,987 --> 00:22:04,447
It just was named Bruce.
519
00:22:05,281 --> 00:22:06,741
CAMERON: The film
happened to come out at a time
520
00:22:06,825 --> 00:22:09,410
when I was really
teaching myself
521
00:22:09,494 --> 00:22:11,871
how visual effects
and mechanical effects
522
00:22:11,955 --> 00:22:13,706
and makeup effects were done.
523
00:22:13,790 --> 00:22:15,375
Like Bruce,
like the shark in Jaws.
524
00:22:15,458 --> 00:22:16,918
Because I wanted a career
in that business.
525
00:22:17,001 --> 00:22:18,711
And I just loved
all that stuff.
526
00:22:19,712 --> 00:22:22,757
As a constructor of
animatronics and puppets,
527
00:22:22,841 --> 00:22:25,802
to operate in that scale
with basically hydraulic
528
00:22:25,885 --> 00:22:28,054
and incredibly
powerful machinery,
529
00:22:28,721 --> 00:22:30,473
that is remarkable.
530
00:22:32,183 --> 00:22:35,270
Basically, I was doing
a lot of research with sharks,
531
00:22:36,020 --> 00:22:38,690
and talked to Ron
and Valerie Taylor.
532
00:22:38,773 --> 00:22:39,899
SPIELBERG:
Ron and Valerie Taylor,
533
00:22:39,983 --> 00:22:42,652
I knew well
from the documentary,
Blue Water, White Death.
534
00:22:43,319 --> 00:22:45,238
And I wanted them
to bless our production.
535
00:22:45,321 --> 00:22:48,116
I also wanted them to be able
to work on the film.
536
00:22:48,199 --> 00:22:49,701
And I said to them,
"Was there any way
537
00:22:49,784 --> 00:22:52,078
"we can get actual
great white footage
538
00:22:52,161 --> 00:22:53,997
"that I could intercut
with a mechanical shark?"
539
00:22:55,206 --> 00:22:56,833
And they said, "Absolutely.
540
00:22:56,916 --> 00:22:59,752
"We'll go to
the Great Barrier Reef
off of Australia,
541
00:22:59,836 --> 00:23:02,046
"and we'll get the footage
that you need."
542
00:23:02,130 --> 00:23:04,215
He simply left it up
to Valerie and I
543
00:23:04,299 --> 00:23:05,758
to get what we could
544
00:23:05,842 --> 00:23:07,343
according to the script.
545
00:23:07,427 --> 00:23:10,430
He basically realized
at that time
546
00:23:10,513 --> 00:23:12,682
that there would be
the possibility
547
00:23:12,765 --> 00:23:14,976
that he would have
to shoot around what we got
548
00:23:15,059 --> 00:23:17,520
because it's a wild animal,
549
00:23:17,604 --> 00:23:19,397
and they just don't do
what you want them to.
550
00:23:23,192 --> 00:23:25,111
ALVES: Back on the lot,
the studio said,
551
00:23:25,194 --> 00:23:26,613
"We're going to start
shooting this movie
552
00:23:26,696 --> 00:23:28,156
"in the next month."
553
00:23:28,239 --> 00:23:30,283
And I'm saying,
"Wait a minute.
554
00:23:30,366 --> 00:23:32,827
"I have a year and a half
to build the shark."
555
00:23:32,911 --> 00:23:33,995
"No, you don't.
556
00:23:34,078 --> 00:23:37,332
"We're going to start shooting
because the book's
so popular."
557
00:23:37,415 --> 00:23:39,042
That's all they care about,
is the money.
558
00:23:39,125 --> 00:23:41,544
They don't have any idea
what we're doing,
559
00:23:41,628 --> 00:23:43,504
how complicated it was. No.
560
00:23:43,588 --> 00:23:46,883
So Steven got them
to postpone it until May.
561
00:23:47,467 --> 00:23:48,593
SPIELBERG: I remember
going out there
562
00:23:48,676 --> 00:23:50,637
with John Milius
and George Lucas,
563
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,890
and John stuck his head
in the shark and said,
564
00:23:53,973 --> 00:23:55,767
"Okay, close the jaws!"
565
00:23:56,476 --> 00:23:58,478
And I was screaming
"Don't close the jaws!
566
00:23:58,561 --> 00:24:00,229
"John, get out of the shark!"
567
00:24:00,855 --> 00:24:03,107
A bunch of us went
and visited Steven,
568
00:24:03,191 --> 00:24:06,152
and he wanted to show us
the construction of the shark,
569
00:24:06,235 --> 00:24:07,654
which was impressive.
570
00:24:07,737 --> 00:24:09,489
So I thought,
"Great, this'll
be a good movie."
571
00:24:09,572 --> 00:24:12,325
And it was obvious
it was going to be a big hit.
572
00:24:12,825 --> 00:24:14,661
SPIELBERG: George looked
at the shark and said,
573
00:24:14,744 --> 00:24:17,372
"Wow, this is gonna be
the most successful movie
ever made."
574
00:24:17,455 --> 00:24:18,873
And I, of course,
looked at George like,
575
00:24:18,957 --> 00:24:20,333
"Well, from your
lips to..." You know.
576
00:24:20,416 --> 00:24:21,751
But I didn't believe that.
577
00:24:23,002 --> 00:24:25,838
We never,
until the last minute,
578
00:24:25,922 --> 00:24:30,218
had a script that was
to everybody's liking,
579
00:24:30,885 --> 00:24:35,723
and the studio wanted us to
go ahead before some strike.
580
00:24:36,265 --> 00:24:38,851
And so we were forced
to go on the location,
581
00:24:38,935 --> 00:24:40,645
forced to start shooting.
582
00:24:40,728 --> 00:24:43,064
And he had some
serious reservations
583
00:24:43,147 --> 00:24:44,691
whether we were
doing the right thing.
584
00:24:46,401 --> 00:24:50,238
We did not go into
this picture fully prepared.
585
00:24:53,741 --> 00:24:55,785
CAMERON: In the first
frames of the movie,
586
00:24:55,868 --> 00:24:58,579
you are a shark
and you're just hunting.
587
00:24:58,663 --> 00:25:01,749
It really shows you
what's possible in cinema.
588
00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:05,044
And so my favorite scene
in the film is the opening.
589
00:25:08,297 --> 00:25:10,133
LUCAS: The opening
is sensational.
590
00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:13,511
Really sets you up...
like that.
591
00:25:14,387 --> 00:25:16,597
Where are we going?
Swimming!
592
00:25:17,306 --> 00:25:19,434
PEELE: The opening of a film
is everything.
593
00:25:20,727 --> 00:25:22,103
If you don't get
that part right,
594
00:25:22,186 --> 00:25:23,271
the rest of it doesn't matter.
595
00:25:24,188 --> 00:25:26,858
The opening of Jaws,
it's simple,
596
00:25:26,941 --> 00:25:29,402
and it may be the most
violent scene in the film,
597
00:25:29,986 --> 00:25:31,446
and at the same time,
598
00:25:31,529 --> 00:25:34,532
it is one that
obscures the monster.
599
00:25:35,825 --> 00:25:37,618
(PANTING)
600
00:25:41,122 --> 00:25:43,958
SPIELBERG:
In the original script
that Peter Benchley did,
601
00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:45,418
we did show the shark.
602
00:25:46,836 --> 00:25:48,963
But the shark was down,
getting repaired.
603
00:25:50,381 --> 00:25:52,884
And it was dawning on me
that things were scarier
604
00:25:52,967 --> 00:25:54,844
without the shark
than with the shark.
605
00:25:54,927 --> 00:25:56,137
(SCREAMS)
606
00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:58,890
I always kind of relate
my scene in Jaws
607
00:25:58,973 --> 00:26:00,600
to the scene in Psycho.
608
00:26:01,142 --> 00:26:03,019
The lady in the shower,
609
00:26:03,102 --> 00:26:06,064
because it's that kind
of horrifying thing
610
00:26:06,147 --> 00:26:07,690
that comes out of nowhere.
611
00:26:07,774 --> 00:26:10,818
And I think a lot
of what made the scene
very, very scary
612
00:26:10,902 --> 00:26:13,654
was the fact that you knew
what was down there
613
00:26:13,738 --> 00:26:15,114
and you knew
what was happening,
614
00:26:15,198 --> 00:26:16,491
but you couldn't see it.
615
00:26:17,784 --> 00:26:21,287
SPIELBERG: The one filmmaker
that influenced me the most
616
00:26:21,370 --> 00:26:23,456
in the making of Jaws
was Alfred Hitchcock.
617
00:26:24,248 --> 00:26:27,335
What Alfred Hitchcock could do
with the power of suggestion,
618
00:26:27,418 --> 00:26:29,253
I thought, "if just
a little bit of that
619
00:26:29,337 --> 00:26:31,339
"could be sprinkled
on my mojo,
620
00:26:32,131 --> 00:26:33,382
"then maybe I could make Jaws
621
00:26:33,466 --> 00:26:36,719
"with a real tip of my cap
toward Hitch."
622
00:26:37,845 --> 00:26:41,099
PEELE: The whole question
of Jaws is "How big is it?
623
00:26:41,974 --> 00:26:44,769
"What does this fish
really look like underneath?"
624
00:26:44,852 --> 00:26:47,021
And throughout the film,
625
00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:49,357
he gives us a little bit
more of a taste as we go.
626
00:26:51,442 --> 00:26:53,402
When we were
shooting the scene,
627
00:26:53,486 --> 00:26:55,029
she had a harness on,
628
00:26:55,113 --> 00:26:57,532
and so we had
a line that would go
629
00:26:57,615 --> 00:27:00,576
to five people on one rope,
630
00:27:00,660 --> 00:27:03,079
and five people
on another rope.
631
00:27:04,539 --> 00:27:06,082
I wanted this effect.
632
00:27:06,999 --> 00:27:08,626
Back and forth.
633
00:27:09,836 --> 00:27:11,462
And I thought
it would be a lot scarier
634
00:27:11,546 --> 00:27:13,589
if we see the force
635
00:27:13,673 --> 00:27:16,467
of how the shark is
carrying her across the water.
636
00:27:16,551 --> 00:27:18,636
I will never forget
the opening sequence,
637
00:27:18,719 --> 00:27:22,098
where she is dragged
ruthlessly through the ocean,
638
00:27:22,181 --> 00:27:24,392
and the different
camera perspectives
639
00:27:24,475 --> 00:27:26,269
and how she's being
pulled away from us,
640
00:27:26,352 --> 00:27:29,564
powerless to this threat
beneath the surface.
641
00:27:29,647 --> 00:27:34,026
If they're willing to do that
three minutes into the movie,
642
00:27:34,110 --> 00:27:37,530
what else are they
willing to do?
643
00:27:37,613 --> 00:27:40,116
(SCREAMING) Oh, God, help me!
644
00:27:40,741 --> 00:27:42,994
God, please help!
645
00:28:00,261 --> 00:28:02,096
Martha's Vineyard,
Massachusetts,
646
00:28:02,763 --> 00:28:04,932
an island off
the Eastern Seaboard.
647
00:28:05,016 --> 00:28:08,352
Beautiful, picturesque,
and about to be disguised
648
00:28:08,436 --> 00:28:10,479
as the fictional town
of Amity.
649
00:28:14,275 --> 00:28:15,860
MAN: ls it true
that the art director
650
00:28:15,943 --> 00:28:17,737
is the one that chose
Martha's Vineyard?
651
00:28:17,820 --> 00:28:19,030
The art director came down
652
00:28:19,113 --> 00:28:21,073
and looked at the
entire Eastern Seaboard.
653
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:25,328
I don't know why,
but I had heard a lot about
Martha's Vineyard
654
00:28:25,411 --> 00:28:28,164
as a small summer community
655
00:28:28,247 --> 00:28:29,874
that might suit this picture,
656
00:28:29,957 --> 00:28:31,375
and I suggested
he go to see it.
657
00:28:32,835 --> 00:28:37,757
ALVES: I needed a bay
with a 25-foot depth
and a low tide.
658
00:28:38,424 --> 00:28:40,009
I had a whole map
of New England,
659
00:28:40,843 --> 00:28:43,930
and I went through all these
various little villages,
660
00:28:44,931 --> 00:28:47,141
and I see there's a boat
to Martha's Vineyard.
661
00:28:47,767 --> 00:28:50,603
So I went there, January 17th,
662
00:28:51,979 --> 00:28:55,483
and I found out
the depth was only 25 feet,
two-foot tide,
663
00:28:56,067 --> 00:29:00,071
and I thought, "Oh my God,
this is gonna be a success."
664
00:29:01,405 --> 00:29:04,075
KRAMER: Martha's Vineyard
is an island.
665
00:29:04,158 --> 00:29:05,868
It's a little spit of land
666
00:29:05,952 --> 00:29:07,870
off the coast
of Massachusetts.
667
00:29:08,537 --> 00:29:13,042
It is a stunning piece of land
and a summer resort.
668
00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:17,213
I've spent a lot of time
in Martha's Vineyard,
669
00:29:17,296 --> 00:29:19,799
and all of the non-actors
that he used,
670
00:29:19,882 --> 00:29:21,801
they really
represent the spirit
671
00:29:21,884 --> 00:29:24,595
of this idyllic,
peaceful, safe place
672
00:29:24,679 --> 00:29:26,180
that's sort of bohemian,
673
00:29:26,264 --> 00:29:27,848
and I think
even if you go now,
674
00:29:27,932 --> 00:29:29,976
it feels like a '70s
time capsule still.
675
00:29:30,059 --> 00:29:32,728
And I think all of that helped
676
00:29:32,812 --> 00:29:36,190
because it gives the world
such authenticity.
677
00:29:36,274 --> 00:29:37,275
Listen, Chief.
678
00:29:38,484 --> 00:29:39,610
Be careful, will you?
679
00:29:39,694 --> 00:29:40,695
In this town?
680
00:29:40,778 --> 00:29:42,154
Hey.
Hi, Dad.
681
00:29:42,947 --> 00:29:44,865
Martha's Vineyard was
a delightful place to shoot.
682
00:29:44,949 --> 00:29:45,992
I really enjoyed it.
683
00:29:46,075 --> 00:29:47,368
It was thrilling.
684
00:29:47,451 --> 00:29:49,912
I'd never been
on a location before,
685
00:29:49,996 --> 00:29:52,248
other than for
television shoots.
686
00:29:52,331 --> 00:29:53,833
But never for a movie,
687
00:29:53,916 --> 00:29:56,544
and I was feeling
so full of myself.
688
00:29:57,461 --> 00:29:59,880
MAN: Martha's Vineyard means
so much to this movie, Jaws.
689
00:29:59,964 --> 00:30:02,341
If you think of it,
there are only eight people
690
00:30:02,425 --> 00:30:03,843
that came from Hollywood
to be in this movie.
691
00:30:03,926 --> 00:30:06,220
You have Roy Scheider,
Richard Dreyfuss,
692
00:30:06,304 --> 00:30:07,805
Robert Shaw, Lorraine Gary,
693
00:30:07,888 --> 00:30:10,099
Murray Hamilton,
Teddy Grossman,
694
00:30:10,182 --> 00:30:12,101
Susan Backlinie
and Carl Gottlieb.
695
00:30:12,184 --> 00:30:13,894
Everyone else
you see in the movie
696
00:30:13,978 --> 00:30:15,521
are locals from
Martha's Vineyard.
697
00:30:15,604 --> 00:30:17,398
We had a shark attack
at South Beach
698
00:30:17,481 --> 00:30:19,025
this morning, Mayor! Fatal!
699
00:30:19,108 --> 00:30:20,359
I've got to batten down
the beach!
700
00:30:20,943 --> 00:30:23,487
KRAMER: I read about
the shooting of Jaws
701
00:30:23,571 --> 00:30:25,906
in the Vineyard newspapers.
702
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:29,035
So I called my agent
and he set up a meeting,
703
00:30:29,118 --> 00:30:31,287
and I flew to Boston
and met Steven.
704
00:30:31,370 --> 00:30:33,622
He knew I was from the island,
705
00:30:33,706 --> 00:30:37,793
and I think he wanted
some real island feel.
706
00:30:37,877 --> 00:30:41,047
And listen, I was lucky
to be in this.
707
00:30:41,172 --> 00:30:43,674
You folks were
born here, right?
Yeah. I'm an islander.
708
00:30:43,758 --> 00:30:47,261
When we did Jaws, I turned 19
in January of that year.
709
00:30:47,345 --> 00:30:51,057
They tried to put me
in a pair of sort of
bell bottom blue jeans,
710
00:30:51,140 --> 00:30:53,893
and what almost
would have been the top
of a union suit
711
00:30:53,976 --> 00:30:55,478
that was sort of
tie-dyed and pink.
712
00:30:55,561 --> 00:30:59,106
And I was like, "it's not
really what I'd wear."
713
00:30:59,690 --> 00:31:01,942
So they said,
"Okay, well, bring
your own wardrobe."
714
00:31:02,026 --> 00:31:05,071
So a pair of khakis,
an Oxford cloth shirt,
715
00:31:05,154 --> 00:31:08,240
and I still have
the sweater that I wore.
716
00:31:08,324 --> 00:31:09,575
INTERVIEWER:
Wow, put it on like this.
717
00:31:09,658 --> 00:31:10,659
There we go.
718
00:31:11,786 --> 00:31:14,288
INTERVIEWER:
Wow. You know what
the best news is?
719
00:31:14,372 --> 00:31:16,207
It still fits.
Yes! Amazing, huh?
720
00:31:17,166 --> 00:31:20,336
SPIELBERG:
Well, I had very good success
casting Sugarland Express
721
00:31:20,419 --> 00:31:22,838
with a casting director
named Shari Rhodes.
722
00:31:23,589 --> 00:31:26,300
And we had tremendous
success with real people.
723
00:31:26,384 --> 00:31:28,135
Did you ever do some
time in prison, son?
724
00:31:28,219 --> 00:31:30,179
So I asked Shari
if she would cast Jaws,
725
00:31:30,262 --> 00:31:32,306
and I said, "Let's get locals
from Martha's Vineyard
726
00:31:32,390 --> 00:31:34,809
to perform in this movie,
or even from Boston.
727
00:31:35,393 --> 00:31:38,604
SODERBERGH: Shari Rhodes
did an amazing job
728
00:31:38,687 --> 00:31:41,065
of casting people
who looked and acted
729
00:31:41,148 --> 00:31:43,818
like they just walked in
off the street.
730
00:31:43,901 --> 00:31:44,944
What kind of shark?
731
00:31:45,027 --> 00:31:46,362
A tiger shark.
732
00:31:47,530 --> 00:31:48,614
A what?
733
00:31:48,697 --> 00:31:50,991
She spent time there
and got to know people.
734
00:31:51,575 --> 00:31:53,786
I just put some
sun tan lotion on
735
00:31:53,869 --> 00:31:56,288
and, uh, I'm trying
to absorb some of this sun.
736
00:31:56,372 --> 00:31:57,581
Nobody's going in.
737
00:31:58,707 --> 00:32:00,543
Please. Get in the water.
738
00:32:00,626 --> 00:32:03,671
I mean, all those people
in that board meeting
739
00:32:03,754 --> 00:32:06,340
in the town hall,
they're real.
740
00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:10,052
Is that $3,000
bounty on the shark
in cash or check?
741
00:32:10,136 --> 00:32:11,762
(ALL LAUGHING)
742
00:32:11,846 --> 00:32:12,847
I don't think
that's funny.
743
00:32:12,930 --> 00:32:14,723
I don't think
that's funny at all.
744
00:32:14,807 --> 00:32:16,142
It gives the whole movie
745
00:32:16,225 --> 00:32:18,727
more of a documentary
impromptu feel.
746
00:32:18,811 --> 00:32:21,605
Hello.
Hello back,
young feller.
747
00:32:21,689 --> 00:32:22,940
How are you?
748
00:32:23,023 --> 00:32:24,483
MAN 1:
This is Craig Kingsbury,
749
00:32:24,567 --> 00:32:26,819
known by some folks
on the island
750
00:32:26,902 --> 00:32:28,070
as the island character.
751
00:32:28,154 --> 00:32:30,364
KINGSBURY:
it's like one big family.
752
00:32:30,448 --> 00:32:32,741
And you hear what's
going on in Edgartown?
753
00:32:32,825 --> 00:32:35,578
A lot of it's laughable
and joking and fun
754
00:32:35,661 --> 00:32:37,413
and family fights
and all that,
755
00:32:37,496 --> 00:32:38,747
but they all get out.
756
00:32:38,831 --> 00:32:40,708
MAN 2: What's the serious
business, though?
757
00:32:40,791 --> 00:32:42,585
We don't have
anything too serious.
758
00:32:42,668 --> 00:32:45,212
SPIELBERG: Kingsbury made
all his dialogue up.
759
00:32:45,296 --> 00:32:47,631
Every time he opens his mouth,
that's Craig talking.
760
00:32:47,715 --> 00:32:49,049
We didn't write lines for him.
761
00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:51,135
Why don't we get
them silly bastards
762
00:32:51,218 --> 00:32:52,428
down in that rock pile?
763
00:32:52,511 --> 00:32:53,512
There'll be some fun.
764
00:32:53,596 --> 00:32:55,890
They'll wish their fathers
had never met their mothers
765
00:32:55,973 --> 00:32:57,892
when they start
taking their bottoms out
766
00:32:57,975 --> 00:33:00,102
and slamming
into them rocks, boy.
767
00:33:00,186 --> 00:33:01,896
Every character
has a little bit of an arc,
768
00:33:01,979 --> 00:33:03,230
a little bit of a story,
769
00:33:03,314 --> 00:33:04,773
so that when they
enter the picture,
770
00:33:04,857 --> 00:33:06,275
you're interested in them,
771
00:33:06,358 --> 00:33:08,569
and when they
exit the picture,
you miss them.
772
00:33:09,862 --> 00:33:12,490
SPIELBERG: I feel that Jaws
is more of a people picture
773
00:33:12,573 --> 00:33:13,782
than a shark movie.
774
00:33:13,866 --> 00:33:15,409
Without those people,
775
00:33:15,493 --> 00:33:17,161
you wouldn't give a hang
about the shark.
776
00:33:21,999 --> 00:33:24,502
We're in one of our locations
here on Martha's Vineyard
777
00:33:24,585 --> 00:33:26,045
in the town of Oak Bluffs,
778
00:33:26,128 --> 00:33:28,964
and this is one of our
four retail stores in town,
779
00:33:29,048 --> 00:33:30,466
and it's one of the places
780
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:33,052
where we keep
the Jaws memory alive.
781
00:33:34,178 --> 00:33:36,931
I'm Todd Rebello,
my brother played
Michael Brody.
782
00:33:37,014 --> 00:33:38,265
His name was Chris Rebello.
783
00:33:38,349 --> 00:33:40,267
Mom. I got cut.
784
00:33:40,351 --> 00:33:41,727
I got bit by a vampire.
785
00:33:41,810 --> 00:33:43,729
I have one great memory
786
00:33:43,812 --> 00:33:45,523
of the day when he says,
"I got bit by a vampire."
787
00:33:46,357 --> 00:33:47,566
We were out on the front lawn,
788
00:33:47,650 --> 00:33:50,361
and it was my brother
and I and Steven,
789
00:33:50,444 --> 00:33:53,572
and he was just asking us
question after question.
790
00:33:53,656 --> 00:33:55,616
He really did relate
to somebody young.
791
00:33:55,699 --> 00:33:58,619
You know, it could have been
your older brother in a sense.
792
00:33:59,161 --> 00:34:00,704
The pond's
for old ladies.
793
00:34:00,788 --> 00:34:01,956
I know it's for
the old ladies,
794
00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:03,832
but just do it for
the old man, huh?
795
00:34:03,916 --> 00:34:05,668
TODD: My brother
passed away at 37.
796
00:34:05,751 --> 00:34:07,836
It was fairly tragic.
Three kids.
797
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,589
So anything I could do
to keep that memory alive
798
00:34:10,673 --> 00:34:12,508
and the memory of him,
I try to help.
799
00:34:17,054 --> 00:34:20,808
After a couple of days
of being on the set
with my children,
800
00:34:20,891 --> 00:34:25,688
I was asked to be in charge
of taking care of the kids.
801
00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:29,108
Most of the time,
I was in the background
802
00:34:29,191 --> 00:34:30,901
and I had my
movie camera with me.
803
00:34:30,985 --> 00:34:33,195
That was back
in the Super 8 days.
804
00:34:35,698 --> 00:34:38,867
I was very happy to see
all the local people
805
00:34:38,951 --> 00:34:40,035
being a part of this,
806
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:42,621
and we would talk about it
even years later.
807
00:34:42,705 --> 00:34:44,498
We still do,
as a matter of fact,
808
00:34:44,582 --> 00:34:45,874
with Jeff Voorhees,
809
00:34:45,958 --> 00:34:48,168
the little boy that
gets eaten by the shark.
810
00:34:48,252 --> 00:34:51,380
I'm gonna go and get my raft
and go back out in the water.
811
00:34:51,463 --> 00:34:52,631
Let me see your fingers.
812
00:34:53,841 --> 00:34:56,385
Oh. Alex Kintner,
they're beginning
to prune.
813
00:34:56,468 --> 00:34:58,178
Just let me go out
a little longer.
814
00:34:58,804 --> 00:35:00,097
Just ten more minutes.
815
00:35:00,180 --> 00:35:01,181
Thanks.
816
00:35:01,682 --> 00:35:04,101
VOORHEES: They filmed
that here in May,
817
00:35:04,184 --> 00:35:05,728
that's when
that scene I was in.
818
00:35:06,228 --> 00:35:07,646
And if you know
the water up here
819
00:35:07,730 --> 00:35:09,690
in New England,
Martha's Vineyard,
820
00:35:10,316 --> 00:35:12,484
you know, I won't swim
here now until July.
821
00:35:12,568 --> 00:35:14,862
This water's
freezing cold in May.
822
00:35:14,945 --> 00:35:16,196
So people were like,
"Were you afraid
of the shark?"
823
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,366
No, I was afraid of freezing
my 12-year-old ass off
in that water.
824
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:23,537
SODERBERGH: I think
the Kintner scene
825
00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:27,541
is a beautiful example
of Spielberg's gift.
826
00:35:28,208 --> 00:35:30,586
J.J. ABRAMS: Every single
choice he makes,
827
00:35:30,669 --> 00:35:33,547
it's about the tension
and the paranoia
828
00:35:33,631 --> 00:35:36,175
and that sense of,
you don't know
quite where to look.
829
00:35:36,258 --> 00:35:39,553
JORDAN PEELE: The tension
that's built with the
cinematic devices
830
00:35:39,637 --> 00:35:41,597
in this scene
are so immersive,
831
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,599
so seamless and flawless.
832
00:35:45,684 --> 00:35:49,146
It's got the wipes,
it's got the split diopter.
833
00:35:49,938 --> 00:35:52,608
And then when it hits
the push-pull zoom
834
00:35:52,691 --> 00:35:54,276
that Hitchcock pioneered...
835
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,737
It just brings
the audience along
836
00:35:56,820 --> 00:35:58,697
in the perfect pacing,
837
00:35:59,573 --> 00:36:01,075
and then it's delivered.
838
00:36:06,288 --> 00:36:07,915
SODERBERGH:
All of this is in the aid
839
00:36:07,998 --> 00:36:12,461
of putting you inside
of Brody's experience
840
00:36:12,544 --> 00:36:14,755
of being on the beach that day
841
00:36:14,838 --> 00:36:17,424
when this terrible
thing happens.
842
00:36:18,258 --> 00:36:19,843
Get everybody out! Come on.
843
00:36:19,927 --> 00:36:21,428
Everybody, get out!
844
00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:23,722
In those days,
I wasn't thinking
about cinema.
845
00:36:24,348 --> 00:36:26,850
I was thinking about shots.
846
00:36:26,934 --> 00:36:28,811
When to go close
and when to be wide,
847
00:36:28,894 --> 00:36:30,854
when to give the audience
a sense of geography
848
00:36:30,938 --> 00:36:32,106
so they're not lost.
849
00:36:32,648 --> 00:36:35,693
VOORHEES:
At first, shooting the scene,
they had a mannequin.
850
00:36:36,944 --> 00:36:38,445
They put it on a raft,
851
00:36:38,529 --> 00:36:41,490
and the mechanical shark
bites this little mannequin.
852
00:36:44,618 --> 00:36:46,245
And there was this big barrel
853
00:36:46,328 --> 00:36:47,746
right near the top
of the water,
854
00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:49,123
and it's full of blood.
He goes,
855
00:36:49,206 --> 00:36:51,834
"You're gonna take your
raft out to that barrel,"
856
00:36:51,917 --> 00:36:52,918
and all of a sudden,
857
00:36:53,001 --> 00:36:55,671
all the blood
starts shooting up
like a rocket.
858
00:36:56,380 --> 00:36:58,340
When you see me
go up and down,
859
00:36:58,424 --> 00:37:00,801
that's two guys lifting me
in and out of the water,
860
00:37:00,884 --> 00:37:02,010
then pull you under
and give you air.
861
00:37:02,094 --> 00:37:03,387
(GASPING)
862
00:37:04,847 --> 00:37:05,848
FLIGOR: Poor Jeff.
863
00:37:05,931 --> 00:37:07,808
He came up out of the water,
864
00:37:07,891 --> 00:37:10,602
you know, he got all that
stuff out of his eyes.
865
00:37:11,353 --> 00:37:12,604
Alex?
866
00:37:12,688 --> 00:37:14,815
FLIGOR:
And then he did it again
and it worked fine.
867
00:37:16,066 --> 00:37:17,151
Alex?
868
00:37:20,738 --> 00:37:24,491
These are rare events,
but the reality is
it does happen.
869
00:37:24,575 --> 00:37:27,286
A shark is attracted to
the exact kind of splashing
870
00:37:27,369 --> 00:37:29,705
and activity that occurs
whenever human beings
go in swimming.
871
00:37:29,788 --> 00:37:30,831
You cannot avoid it.
872
00:37:31,498 --> 00:37:33,000
The sharks are not
infesting the waters,
873
00:37:33,083 --> 00:37:34,585
the sharks live
in the water, right?
874
00:37:34,668 --> 00:37:37,296
And we put ourselves
into their environment,
875
00:37:37,379 --> 00:37:38,881
and so we are taking
an inherent risk
876
00:37:38,964 --> 00:37:41,216
any time we choose
to go into the water.
877
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:43,802
The only way that a shark
can taste something
878
00:37:43,886 --> 00:37:45,304
or can know what something is,
879
00:37:45,387 --> 00:37:46,847
is literally by biting it.
880
00:37:46,930 --> 00:37:48,390
And they make a decision
about whether
881
00:37:48,474 --> 00:37:50,684
that's going to be what
they're going to eat or not.
882
00:37:50,768 --> 00:37:52,686
And in a lot of cases,
they'll just say
883
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:54,855
"No, that's not right,"
and they'll swim away.
884
00:37:54,938 --> 00:37:57,733
There was a deadly
shark attack on Cape Cod.
885
00:37:57,816 --> 00:38:00,402
It is the first
fatal shark attack
886
00:38:00,486 --> 00:38:03,864
in Massachusetts since 1936.
887
00:38:03,947 --> 00:38:07,117
When boogie boarder
Arthur Medici was killed
888
00:38:07,201 --> 00:38:09,411
by a great white shark
off Cape Cod,
889
00:38:09,495 --> 00:38:11,330
where we do
all of our research,
890
00:38:11,413 --> 00:38:13,999
it had a profound
effect personally
891
00:38:14,082 --> 00:38:16,543
and subsequently,
professionally.
892
00:38:16,627 --> 00:38:20,422
It was the first fatality
in over 80 years on the Cape,
893
00:38:20,506 --> 00:38:23,217
and it impacted
the whole community.
894
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:25,636
Are you going
to close the beaches?
895
00:38:26,804 --> 00:38:27,971
Yes, we are.
896
00:38:28,055 --> 00:38:29,681
(ALL CLAMORING)
897
00:38:29,765 --> 00:38:32,601
SKOMAL:
Unlike the film, we weren't
trying to hide anything.
898
00:38:32,684 --> 00:38:36,271
And I will admit there was
one or two beach managers
899
00:38:36,355 --> 00:38:38,440
that didn't want
to talk about sharks.
900
00:38:38,524 --> 00:38:39,650
It's all psychological.
901
00:38:40,317 --> 00:38:41,777
You yell, "Barracuda,"
902
00:38:42,569 --> 00:38:44,071
everybody says, "Huh? What?"
903
00:38:45,739 --> 00:38:47,157
You yell, "Shark,"
904
00:38:48,867 --> 00:38:51,411
we've got a panic on our hands
on the Fourth of July.
905
00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:54,748
SKERRY: Jaws came out
at a moment in history,
906
00:38:54,832 --> 00:38:56,124
certainly in
the United States,
907
00:38:56,208 --> 00:38:58,043
but worldwide as well,
908
00:38:58,836 --> 00:39:02,339
where we were just
emerging from civil unrest.
909
00:39:03,257 --> 00:39:05,551
That era in the early '70s
910
00:39:05,634 --> 00:39:10,681
spoke to these
emotional elements
within humans
911
00:39:10,764 --> 00:39:12,599
about fear, about danger,
912
00:39:12,683 --> 00:39:16,228
about things that
don't have easy answers.
913
00:39:16,311 --> 00:39:18,772
What was happening in America
was the Vietnam War
914
00:39:18,856 --> 00:39:19,940
and Watergate.
915
00:39:20,023 --> 00:39:23,610
I shall resign the presidency
effective at noon tomorrow.
916
00:39:24,194 --> 00:39:26,738
SPIELBERG:
These were the turbulent times
while we were making the film.
917
00:39:28,699 --> 00:39:30,284
The idea of
a corrupt politician
918
00:39:30,367 --> 00:39:32,661
trying to hide something
from the citizens
919
00:39:32,744 --> 00:39:34,413
was very powerful.
920
00:39:34,496 --> 00:39:37,666
Murray Hamilton,
in a kind of local government,
921
00:39:37,749 --> 00:39:42,004
represented power and commerce
over human safety,
922
00:39:42,838 --> 00:39:44,131
so he represented a lot.
923
00:39:45,883 --> 00:39:49,428
(SOBBING)
You knew it was dangerous,
924
00:39:49,511 --> 00:39:51,763
but you let people
go swimming anyway.
925
00:39:52,347 --> 00:39:55,684
PEELE: The shark isn't even
the greatest monster
in the film.
926
00:39:55,767 --> 00:39:58,979
The fact that the money
in the bottom line
927
00:39:59,062 --> 00:40:00,898
is working under the surface
928
00:40:00,981 --> 00:40:04,318
as being more valuable
than the lives at stake
929
00:40:04,401 --> 00:40:06,528
is something that is always
930
00:40:06,612 --> 00:40:10,282
true to a certain extent
in this capitalist society.
931
00:40:10,365 --> 00:40:11,867
We will be
open for business.
932
00:40:11,950 --> 00:40:13,827
It's gonna be
one of the best summers
we've ever had.
933
00:40:13,911 --> 00:40:15,621
The book got a lot
of curious reviews.
934
00:40:15,704 --> 00:40:17,122
Some people
really liked it a lot,
935
00:40:17,205 --> 00:40:18,206
some people hated it.
936
00:40:18,290 --> 00:40:20,751
Those beaches will be open
for this weekend.
937
00:40:20,834 --> 00:40:22,628
My favorite review of all,
938
00:40:22,711 --> 00:40:24,338
I never even read
because it wasn't written.
939
00:40:24,421 --> 00:40:27,299
Frank Mankiewicz
was interviewing Fidel Castro
940
00:40:27,382 --> 00:40:29,426
and asking,
"What do you read?"
941
00:40:29,509 --> 00:40:30,886
And Castro said,
942
00:40:30,969 --> 00:40:33,013
"Well, most recently,
I've read a book
called Tiburon."
943
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,848
And Mankiewicz said
944
00:40:34,932 --> 00:40:36,850
"Why are you reading
commercial American
thrillers?"
945
00:40:36,934 --> 00:40:38,644
And Castro said,
"Ah, no, you're wrong.
946
00:40:38,727 --> 00:40:40,187
"This is not a commercial
American thriller.
947
00:40:40,270 --> 00:40:43,273
"This is a marvelous metaphor
about the corruption
of capitalism."
948
00:40:44,191 --> 00:40:46,944
And I tried to get Doubleday
to use it in an ad.
949
00:40:47,027 --> 00:40:48,695
Can you imagine
the ad that says,
950
00:40:48,779 --> 00:40:51,406
"Marvelous metaphor about
the corruption of capitalism
951
00:40:51,490 --> 00:40:52,866
"- Fidel Castro"?
952
00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:56,244
Who else could have a quote
from Fidel Castro. Please?
953
00:40:56,328 --> 00:40:57,329
But they wouldn't do it.
954
00:40:58,622 --> 00:41:00,749
REPORTER: In recent days,
a cloud has appeared
955
00:41:00,832 --> 00:41:03,335
on the horizon of this
beautiful resort community.
956
00:41:03,418 --> 00:41:06,088
A cloud in the shape
of a killer shark.
957
00:41:06,922 --> 00:41:09,424
MAN: I was in my apartment,
and Jaws was on the TV.
958
00:41:09,508 --> 00:41:12,302
My dad has almost
been dead for 20 years now,
959
00:41:12,386 --> 00:41:14,471
and suddenly I heard
my dad talking to me.
960
00:41:15,097 --> 00:41:16,431
And I kind of stopped
and turned around.
961
00:41:16,515 --> 00:41:17,933
It was because it was
the scene in Jaws,
962
00:41:18,016 --> 00:41:19,476
where he was interviewing
the mayor on the beach.
963
00:41:20,268 --> 00:41:21,269
MAN 1: Background action.
964
00:41:21,353 --> 00:41:23,981
With me here today
is the mayor of Amity,
Lawrence Vaughn.
965
00:41:24,564 --> 00:41:27,067
Now, Mr. Vaughn,
how about those rumors?
966
00:41:27,150 --> 00:41:28,402
MAN 2: All right, Murray,
that'll do it.
967
00:41:28,986 --> 00:41:30,112
MAN 3: Cut!
968
00:41:30,195 --> 00:41:31,905
CLAYTON: I love when
we're able to go back
and see him
969
00:41:31,989 --> 00:41:33,532
and remember
everything about him.
970
00:41:33,615 --> 00:41:35,075
And it's really a gift.
971
00:41:35,701 --> 00:41:38,829
The beaches are open,
and people are having
a wonderful time.
972
00:41:38,912 --> 00:41:40,789
Amity, as you know,
means friendship.
973
00:41:41,832 --> 00:41:43,208
MAN: David, you and I
have talked about this.
974
00:41:43,291 --> 00:41:44,626
We were both around
during the shooting
975
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:47,379
of a big beach panic scene,
and we wondered,
976
00:41:47,462 --> 00:41:50,424
"God, what would happen
if something really
did come in
977
00:41:50,507 --> 00:41:52,259
"during a scene like this,
and begin to eat people?"
978
00:41:52,342 --> 00:41:54,803
The Cape Cod radio,
only last night,
979
00:41:54,886 --> 00:41:57,305
recorded the spotting
of a great white.
980
00:41:58,056 --> 00:42:01,435
So close to the shore
that it was observed
by a lifeguard,
981
00:42:01,518 --> 00:42:04,688
which adds further
credence to the notion
that our beach panic
982
00:42:04,771 --> 00:42:08,442
might indeed have been
invaded by a great white,
983
00:42:08,525 --> 00:42:10,819
in which case,
we would have had
a double beach panic,
984
00:42:10,902 --> 00:42:12,195
or, more horrifyingly,
985
00:42:12,279 --> 00:42:14,698
our actors would have thought
it was part of the movie.
986
00:42:14,781 --> 00:42:16,992
We would have had to use
the old Pearl Harbor line,
987
00:42:17,075 --> 00:42:18,744
"This is no drill."
(MEN LAUGHING)
988
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,669
The bridge is
the number one spot,
989
00:42:27,753 --> 00:42:29,838
and it's also the
number one fun spot
990
00:42:29,921 --> 00:42:32,716
because while
you're not supposed
to jump off the bridge,
991
00:42:33,383 --> 00:42:36,386
150,200 people
jump off that bridge an hour.
992
00:42:37,804 --> 00:42:40,307
I have yet to jump off
the Jaws Bridge.
993
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:43,060
I have not plucked up
the courage to do that.
994
00:42:43,143 --> 00:42:44,770
Sha... Shark!
995
00:42:45,353 --> 00:42:46,396
It's a shark!
996
00:42:47,773 --> 00:42:50,484
Jaws Bridge is where
it all happened for me.
997
00:42:51,068 --> 00:42:54,446
I was one of the three boys
on the sailfish
998
00:42:54,529 --> 00:42:56,073
inside the estuary.
999
00:42:56,698 --> 00:42:58,617
I can't do a damn thing
until we get this undone.
Get that rope undone.
1000
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:00,160
You gotta untangle
that up there!
1001
00:43:00,243 --> 00:43:01,328
( INDISTINCT)
I'm doing it!
1002
00:43:01,912 --> 00:43:04,372
BEN DAVID:
My biggest highlight in life
was having my children.
1003
00:43:04,873 --> 00:43:06,708
This was probably number two.
1004
00:43:07,501 --> 00:43:09,127
You guys okay over there?
1005
00:43:09,211 --> 00:43:11,338
I was gonna be a victim
in the estuary.
1006
00:43:14,508 --> 00:43:16,134
When I dropped into the mouth,
1007
00:43:17,260 --> 00:43:19,096
the shark head would open,
1008
00:43:19,179 --> 00:43:21,181
and there's a lot of
mechanism under there.
1009
00:43:22,015 --> 00:43:23,934
And so that particular shot
1010
00:43:24,017 --> 00:43:26,103
was worked by the guys
in the barge with air rams.
1011
00:43:26,186 --> 00:43:27,813
You know, everybody's
working the mouth,
1012
00:43:27,896 --> 00:43:30,065
one guy works the head,
moving back and forth.
1013
00:43:31,066 --> 00:43:32,818
You think, "Jeez, am I gonna
get in this shark's mouth?
1014
00:43:32,901 --> 00:43:34,486
"Thing's gonna clamp on me."
1015
00:43:34,569 --> 00:43:36,154
(PANTING)
1016
00:43:36,238 --> 00:43:38,740
But Bob Mattey did
all the shark special effects.
1017
00:43:38,824 --> 00:43:39,825
He was fabulous.
1018
00:43:44,704 --> 00:43:45,914
(MAN SCREAMING)
1019
00:43:45,997 --> 00:43:48,250
There are a couple of scenes
that were shot
1020
00:43:48,333 --> 00:43:51,795
where he really does look
like a great white shark
1021
00:43:51,878 --> 00:43:54,548
that I would see
in my work right now.
1022
00:43:55,132 --> 00:43:57,384
When the shark
turns on its side,
1023
00:43:57,467 --> 00:44:00,929
that to me is an
incredibly realistic view
1024
00:44:01,012 --> 00:44:02,472
of a white shark.
1025
00:44:03,265 --> 00:44:04,391
SPIELBERG:
I wanted it to be real.
1026
00:44:04,474 --> 00:44:06,560
I wanted to show what happens
when a shark bites you.
1027
00:44:09,187 --> 00:44:10,856
I was certainly aware
I was going to make it
1028
00:44:10,939 --> 00:44:14,651
as scary and as realistically
brutal as I possibly could.
1029
00:44:14,734 --> 00:44:15,944
MAN: Marking.
1030
00:44:17,863 --> 00:44:19,614
And then later on
in the editing room,
1031
00:44:19,698 --> 00:44:21,074
I was able to
come to my senses
1032
00:44:21,158 --> 00:44:23,493
in a couple of sequences,
and cut things out
1033
00:44:23,577 --> 00:44:26,788
long before the MPAA
ever saw the movie.
1034
00:44:28,707 --> 00:44:32,085
I think a great horror
or great thriller
1035
00:44:32,169 --> 00:44:36,173
is the perfect
tailor-made nightmare
1036
00:44:36,256 --> 00:44:38,049
for its protagonist.
1037
00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:39,551
And, you know,
when you talk about
1038
00:44:39,634 --> 00:44:41,386
the mysticism of Jaws,
1039
00:44:41,469 --> 00:44:44,389
this shark getting
closer and closer
1040
00:44:44,472 --> 00:44:48,393
to this person who
doesn't like the water.
1041
00:44:49,060 --> 00:44:51,021
It's this mystical
connection between
1042
00:44:51,104 --> 00:44:53,023
hero and monster,
and you feel that.
1043
00:44:57,527 --> 00:45:00,030
MAN 1: Guys, we can't shoot
right now. Hold on.
MAN 2: Hold on.
1044
00:45:01,531 --> 00:45:04,242
MAN 3: Pull the anchor up
and reset it out there, okay?
1045
00:45:04,951 --> 00:45:09,497
YOUNG SPIELBERG:
This is my second day at sea,
and I have 54 more days to go.
1046
00:45:10,332 --> 00:45:14,461
And if I survive this,
I'll have learned a lot,
1047
00:45:14,544 --> 00:45:16,630
because right now,
all I can tell you
1048
00:45:16,713 --> 00:45:18,757
is it's twice as slow
shooting at sea
1049
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,133
as it is shooting on land.
1050
00:45:20,217 --> 00:45:21,968
MAN 4: When they finally
went on the water,
1051
00:45:22,052 --> 00:45:25,263
they needed local
support boats and operators.
1052
00:45:25,347 --> 00:45:27,140
I did my acting part
1053
00:45:27,224 --> 00:45:28,725
and then I was
fortunate enough
1054
00:45:28,808 --> 00:45:30,644
to be able to be part
of the Marine department.
1055
00:45:30,727 --> 00:45:33,855
And that's where I really saw
the bit of behind the scenes
1056
00:45:33,939 --> 00:45:35,649
of what went into the show.
1057
00:45:35,732 --> 00:45:37,692
They started filming
at the beginning of May,
1058
00:45:37,776 --> 00:45:40,779
and thought they were gonna
be gone by the Fourth of July.
1059
00:45:41,363 --> 00:45:43,698
And the schedule wasn't
really holding that well
1060
00:45:43,782 --> 00:45:45,992
just because of what
they were dealing with.
1061
00:45:46,076 --> 00:45:52,540
The month of August 1974
is a death march on the water.
1062
00:45:52,624 --> 00:45:55,669
We were on the ocean
for, like, four and a half,
five months,
1063
00:45:55,752 --> 00:45:59,339
and we all began going
off the deep end, literally.
1064
00:45:59,422 --> 00:46:03,051
It's not the time it takes
to take the take
that takes the time,
1065
00:46:03,134 --> 00:46:04,636
it's the time it takes
between the takes
1066
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,013
that takes the time
it takes to take.
1067
00:46:07,097 --> 00:46:08,556
CAMERON: Anytime
you're dealing with water,
1068
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,517
it doesn't get twice as hard,
1069
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,144
it instantly gets
five times as hard.
1070
00:46:13,228 --> 00:46:15,605
He always laughs
whenever I do a water film.
1071
00:46:15,689 --> 00:46:17,565
He says, "Don't you know
how hard this stuff is?
1072
00:46:17,649 --> 00:46:19,067
I said, "Yeah, I know!"
(CHUCKLES)
1073
00:46:19,150 --> 00:46:22,112
SPIELBERG:
There was nothing fun
about making Jaws.
1074
00:46:22,195 --> 00:46:26,032
It was a very, very hard thing
to go out on the real ocean,
1075
00:46:26,116 --> 00:46:27,909
be knocked around
by the waves,
1076
00:46:27,993 --> 00:46:29,077
by the currents.
1077
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,495
One more time.
1078
00:46:30,578 --> 00:46:31,621
Shark comes up.
1079
00:46:31,705 --> 00:46:34,958
And then we have to re-anchor,
reposition the camera boat.
1080
00:46:35,041 --> 00:46:37,210
Suddenly, the electrical barge
1081
00:46:37,294 --> 00:46:40,213
with the generators
running the arcs
is too far away.
1082
00:46:40,297 --> 00:46:41,840
And then on top of all that,
1083
00:46:41,923 --> 00:46:43,341
80% of the time,
the shark didn't work.
1084
00:46:44,801 --> 00:46:46,428
The first mistake
with the shark was,
1085
00:46:46,511 --> 00:46:48,054
they built it for freshwater.
1086
00:46:48,138 --> 00:46:50,265
INTERVIEWER:
What's the difference?
Well, electrolysis.
1087
00:46:51,182 --> 00:46:52,767
They built the shark
in a hurry,
1088
00:46:52,851 --> 00:46:55,729
and then they realized that
saltwater eats everything.
1089
00:46:55,812 --> 00:46:57,856
They tested the shark
for the first time
in the water,
1090
00:46:57,939 --> 00:47:00,066
and we had at least
20 boats of tourists
1091
00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:01,526
who had gathered
around an area
1092
00:47:01,609 --> 00:47:02,777
to watch the shark work.
1093
00:47:02,861 --> 00:47:04,904
And we had the shark
on a huge 90-foot platform,
1094
00:47:04,988 --> 00:47:06,364
30 feet underwater.
1095
00:47:06,448 --> 00:47:07,991
At the press
of a hydraulic button
1096
00:47:08,074 --> 00:47:09,701
and pulling the lever
back, supposedly,
1097
00:47:09,784 --> 00:47:11,953
the shark comes shooting
out of the water headfirst,
1098
00:47:12,037 --> 00:47:13,121
and this has
absolutely happened,
1099
00:47:13,204 --> 00:47:15,040
the shark came up tail first.
1100
00:47:15,832 --> 00:47:16,833
(PEOPLE LAUGHING)
1101
00:47:16,916 --> 00:47:20,170
Tail first,
and it was like
a 25-foot moon.
1102
00:47:20,253 --> 00:47:21,713
(BOTH LAUGH)
1103
00:47:22,297 --> 00:47:24,924
Some nights,
we'd go to the warehouse,
1104
00:47:25,008 --> 00:47:27,427
and you'd see the sharks
lined up there,
1105
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:29,554
and they were
always working on it.
1106
00:47:31,264 --> 00:47:34,059
And sometimes
you'd get in the water,
1107
00:47:34,142 --> 00:47:35,560
and you'd see the shark go,
1108
00:47:35,643 --> 00:47:36,895
"Whoa... womp!"
1109
00:47:38,813 --> 00:47:42,442
You thought,
"Oh, my God, are they
gonna finish this movie?"
1110
00:47:43,651 --> 00:47:45,987
There were
all these radio mics
all over the island,
1111
00:47:46,071 --> 00:47:47,864
and they were always saying,
1112
00:47:47,947 --> 00:47:49,866
(MIMICS RADIO BUZZ)
"The shark is not working.
1113
00:47:49,949 --> 00:47:51,117
"The shark is not working."
1114
00:47:51,201 --> 00:47:53,953
And then one day,
you heard this,
1115
00:47:54,037 --> 00:47:56,956
"The shark is working.
Repeat, the shark is working.
1116
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,334
"The boat is sinking.
The boat is sinking."
1117
00:47:59,417 --> 00:48:00,668
(LAUGHS)
1118
00:48:00,752 --> 00:48:02,087
And I was on that boat.
1119
00:48:02,670 --> 00:48:03,671
Time!
1120
00:48:03,755 --> 00:48:05,215
SPIELBERG:
What happened was
we were pulling
1121
00:48:05,298 --> 00:48:07,092
one of the barrels
away from the boat.
1122
00:48:07,175 --> 00:48:09,052
The problem was
the motorboat went so fast,
1123
00:48:09,135 --> 00:48:11,930
it pulled the planking out
from the hull of the Orca,
1124
00:48:12,013 --> 00:48:13,306
and, of course,
the water rushed in,
1125
00:48:13,390 --> 00:48:15,683
and the boat sank
in about two minutes.
1126
00:48:15,767 --> 00:48:17,185
DREYFUSS: "Get the actors
off the boat!
1127
00:48:17,769 --> 00:48:19,270
"Get the actors off the boat!"
1128
00:48:19,854 --> 00:48:22,774
John Carter, who won an
Academy Award for best
sound for Jaws,
1129
00:48:22,857 --> 00:48:24,275
picked up the Nagra.
1130
00:48:24,359 --> 00:48:25,777
He was on the boat.
And held it over his head,
1131
00:48:25,860 --> 00:48:28,530
and said, "(BLEEP) the actors,
save the sound department!"
1132
00:48:29,739 --> 00:48:31,991
And I had this image
to this day of John sinking,
1133
00:48:32,075 --> 00:48:33,493
holding the Nagra
over his head,
1134
00:48:33,576 --> 00:48:34,661
and he came up months later
1135
00:48:34,744 --> 00:48:36,329
with an Academy Award
in his hand instead.
1136
00:48:37,664 --> 00:48:40,125
Sea conditions
have been so impossible
1137
00:48:40,208 --> 00:48:41,960
that it's really
hurt our schedule,
1138
00:48:42,043 --> 00:48:44,379
and we've been here
105 shooting days,
1139
00:48:44,462 --> 00:48:47,632
and we were only scheduled
for something like 65 or 70.
1140
00:48:47,715 --> 00:48:49,384
MAN: What's this done
to the budget?
1141
00:48:49,467 --> 00:48:52,137
Well, it's kicked it up about
a million and a half dollars,
unfortunately.
1142
00:48:53,054 --> 00:48:54,347
We're not sailors.
1143
00:48:54,431 --> 00:48:57,642
We were filmmakers
and we were a film company,
1144
00:48:57,725 --> 00:48:59,853
and we were way
out of our element.
1145
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,063
There were times
making that movie
1146
00:49:02,147 --> 00:49:04,732
where I thought Jaws
would probably be
1147
00:49:04,816 --> 00:49:06,943
the last thing I ever made
1148
00:49:07,026 --> 00:49:09,070
before people
would stop hiring me.
1149
00:49:10,488 --> 00:49:12,031
I mean, it was
reported everywhere.
1150
00:49:12,782 --> 00:49:15,535
And when I did talk
to him once in a while,
1151
00:49:15,618 --> 00:49:17,287
I knew he was
having a hard time.
1152
00:49:18,288 --> 00:49:19,456
SODERBERGH: You're a story.
1153
00:49:19,539 --> 00:49:21,833
I mean, people in
the entertainment industry
1154
00:49:21,916 --> 00:49:23,835
are talking about
1155
00:49:23,918 --> 00:49:27,005
what a troubled
production this is.
1156
00:49:27,088 --> 00:49:29,007
The director said he faced
the head of the studio
1157
00:49:29,090 --> 00:49:30,758
and he said,
"I can't do it in time!"
1158
00:49:31,342 --> 00:49:32,969
SPIELBERG: About 60 days
into the schedule,
1159
00:49:33,052 --> 00:49:35,388
and we were already, like,
20 days behind schedule.
1160
00:49:35,472 --> 00:49:37,640
And somebody from Hollywood,
an actor,
1161
00:49:37,724 --> 00:49:38,725
came over to me and said,
1162
00:49:38,808 --> 00:49:42,061
"Everybody's talking about
you're never gonna get a job
after this movie
1163
00:49:42,145 --> 00:49:44,397
"because you're
irresponsible with budget."
1164
00:49:44,481 --> 00:49:46,983
This actor was so sure
I would never work again,
1165
00:49:47,066 --> 00:49:48,526
they didn't care
if they told me that.
1166
00:49:48,610 --> 00:49:50,195
It was a very mean thing,
by the way, to do.
1167
00:49:51,863 --> 00:49:53,865
I totally forgot about it
when I got back to studio,
1168
00:49:53,948 --> 00:49:55,158
the movie that next week.
1169
00:49:55,783 --> 00:49:57,243
But that was
really demoralizing.
1170
00:49:57,327 --> 00:49:58,786
And halfway through Jaws,
1171
00:49:58,870 --> 00:50:01,623
I couldn't guarantee
control over anything.
1172
00:50:03,625 --> 00:50:05,752
There's a very real point
1173
00:50:05,835 --> 00:50:07,587
in the production
of this film,
1174
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:09,923
where conversations
are being had
1175
00:50:10,006 --> 00:50:14,928
about whether or not it's
actually physically possible
1176
00:50:15,011 --> 00:50:16,596
to make this film.
1177
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:18,848
We were so far over budget
1178
00:50:18,932 --> 00:50:21,017
on both shooting days
and money,
1179
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:24,062
there was
a strong undercurrent
1180
00:50:24,145 --> 00:50:26,564
that the studio
would close us down,
they'd say, "Enough."
1181
00:50:26,648 --> 00:50:28,900
I never once felt
like I wanted to quit.
1182
00:50:28,983 --> 00:50:31,569
I was terrified
I was gonna be fired.
1183
00:50:31,653 --> 00:50:34,280
At one point, Sid Sheinberg,
who ran the studio,
1184
00:50:34,364 --> 00:50:38,660
flew to Martha's Vineyard
just to assess the damage.
1185
00:50:38,743 --> 00:50:40,620
And he was staying
at the Kelley House,
1186
00:50:40,703 --> 00:50:42,413
a hotel there in Edgartown,
1187
00:50:42,497 --> 00:50:44,874
and he just pulled me
behind the house.
1188
00:50:44,958 --> 00:50:47,835
We sat on these steps,
these gray steps, together.
1189
00:50:47,919 --> 00:50:49,254
And we sat on the same step.
1190
00:50:49,337 --> 00:50:52,590
And he said, "I'm not sure
this is possible,
1191
00:50:52,674 --> 00:50:53,967
"finishing the film this way.
1192
00:50:54,050 --> 00:50:55,134
"What do you think
we should do?"
1193
00:50:55,218 --> 00:50:57,220
And I just said,
"No, I want to go.
I want to finish it.
1194
00:50:57,303 --> 00:50:58,471
"I can finish this movie."
1195
00:50:59,013 --> 00:51:00,848
When you're
by yourself at night,
1196
00:51:00,932 --> 00:51:02,892
it weighs more heavily
than during the working day
1197
00:51:02,976 --> 00:51:05,770
when your mind is
on getting good film.
1198
00:51:05,853 --> 00:51:08,147
SPIELBERG: Scorsese used to
come over to the set.
1199
00:51:08,231 --> 00:51:10,567
From New York, he'd fly down
to Martha's Vineyard.
1200
00:51:10,650 --> 00:51:12,443
And he would just sit there
feeling sorry for me,
1201
00:51:12,527 --> 00:51:14,946
(LAUGHS) and we
would commiserate.
1202
00:51:15,029 --> 00:51:16,573
I noticed you bite
your fingernails a lot.
1203
00:51:16,656 --> 00:51:18,658
Is that why, because you're
juggling all the cash?
1204
00:51:18,741 --> 00:51:20,535
Yeah. No, because
I don't smoke, I don't drink.
1205
00:51:20,618 --> 00:51:24,539
I asked Steven,
"What did you do to unwind
on those days where,
1206
00:51:24,622 --> 00:51:27,292
"if the shark wasn't breaking,
your spirit was breaking?"
1207
00:51:27,375 --> 00:51:30,336
(LAUGHS) Like,
"What did you do to relax
and blow off steam?"
1208
00:51:30,420 --> 00:51:32,505
And he said, "I used
to go to the arcade."
1209
00:51:34,591 --> 00:51:35,883
SPIELBERG:
I talked to my mom a lot.
1210
00:51:35,967 --> 00:51:37,385
I mean, I was talking
to my mom, kind of like,
1211
00:51:37,468 --> 00:51:41,097
"Mommy, this is
really impossible! Help!"
1212
00:51:42,515 --> 00:51:48,187
It's really hard to read
how slow things were going,
1213
00:51:48,813 --> 00:51:51,149
but also fascinating to see
1214
00:51:51,232 --> 00:51:56,029
how he's recalibrating,
rebuilding it, reshooting,
1215
00:51:56,112 --> 00:51:58,740
coming up with ideas on set
1216
00:51:58,823 --> 00:52:04,037
to keep bringing the movie
to life as he saw it.
1217
00:52:06,581 --> 00:52:07,915
"Slow ahead."
1218
00:52:07,999 --> 00:52:09,083
I can go slow ahead.
1219
00:52:09,167 --> 00:52:10,627
Come on down
and chum some of this.
1220
00:52:13,421 --> 00:52:14,422
When the shark comes out
1221
00:52:14,505 --> 00:52:17,133
and Brody backs
into the cabin,
1222
00:52:17,216 --> 00:52:19,510
I say, "Roy, when you back in,
don't even look at him.
1223
00:52:19,594 --> 00:52:21,721
"Just keep looking
at where the shark breached.
1224
00:52:21,804 --> 00:52:24,057
"Just back into the cabin."
1225
00:52:24,140 --> 00:52:26,267
"And just say, 'You're gonna
need a bigger boat."'
1226
00:52:26,351 --> 00:52:27,810
You're gonna need
a bigger boat.
1227
00:52:28,478 --> 00:52:32,649
Chief Brody was, like,
my first on-screen crush,
with that tan.
1228
00:52:32,732 --> 00:52:34,233
It's actually the expression
on his face,
1229
00:52:34,317 --> 00:52:36,569
where he's chumming,
and then he comes up
1230
00:52:36,653 --> 00:52:38,821
and his head comes
into frame like that,
1231
00:52:38,905 --> 00:52:41,658
and the cigarette's,
like, wet, you know? (LAUGHS)
1232
00:52:41,741 --> 00:52:43,201
I will never forget that shot.
1233
00:52:43,284 --> 00:52:45,453
I was like, "Oh, God,
he's like my dream guy."
1234
00:52:45,536 --> 00:52:47,205
You're gonna need
a bigger boat.
1235
00:52:47,288 --> 00:52:48,790
(LAUGHS)
1236
00:52:49,415 --> 00:52:50,667
"You're gonna
need a bigger boat",
1237
00:52:50,750 --> 00:52:55,213
is a flag that you can fly
after you leave that movie.
1238
00:52:55,963 --> 00:52:59,050
CAMERON:
I think it's impossible
to write a timeless line.
1239
00:52:59,133 --> 00:53:00,927
You know what I mean?
I don't think you're
sitting there going,
1240
00:53:01,010 --> 00:53:02,095
"Oh, that...
1241
00:53:02,178 --> 00:53:04,055
"What I just wrote,
that's gonna be timeless."
1242
00:53:04,138 --> 00:53:05,390
You know, because
it's all the context.
1243
00:53:05,473 --> 00:53:07,308
Where is the audience
in the film?
1244
00:53:07,392 --> 00:53:08,518
How tense are they?
1245
00:53:08,601 --> 00:53:10,770
And what kind of release
will it trigger?
1246
00:53:10,853 --> 00:53:12,939
Even a line that's
not that funny.
1247
00:53:13,022 --> 00:53:14,107
When Arnold said...
1248
00:53:14,190 --> 00:53:15,358
I'll be back.
1249
00:53:16,025 --> 00:53:18,778
CAMERON: You know,
I didn't think that was
going to be any big deal.
1250
00:53:18,861 --> 00:53:20,446
But the value of it is,
1251
00:53:20,530 --> 00:53:23,700
the audience is already
in on the joke by that point,
1252
00:53:23,783 --> 00:53:25,118
so they read into it.
1253
00:53:25,201 --> 00:53:27,286
You put your gloves on,
both of you!
1254
00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:30,164
Where the Hooper and Brody
and Quint characters
1255
00:53:30,248 --> 00:53:33,292
came together and had to deal
with each other's backgrounds,
1256
00:53:33,376 --> 00:53:35,044
it involved a lot
of improvisation.
1257
00:53:35,128 --> 00:53:36,629
Hey, Quint. Let it go.
1258
00:53:36,713 --> 00:53:38,089
Hey, Hooper!
1259
00:53:38,172 --> 00:53:39,424
You may be a big
yahoo in the lab,
1260
00:53:39,507 --> 00:53:40,758
but out here,
you're just supercargo!
1261
00:53:40,842 --> 00:53:42,760
If you don't want
to backstroke home,
you get down here!
1262
00:53:42,844 --> 00:53:44,387
YOUNG SPIELBERG: And we had
tape recorders running.
1263
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:45,638
And taking that improvisation,
1264
00:53:45,722 --> 00:53:47,390
finding a good line
from Dreyfuss here
1265
00:53:47,473 --> 00:53:49,475
and a good line
from Robert Shaw here,
1266
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:50,560
writing it down,
1267
00:53:50,643 --> 00:53:52,645
that became the day's work
for the next day.
1268
00:53:52,729 --> 00:53:55,648
Hey, Chief.
Best drop another
chum marker.
1269
00:53:56,649 --> 00:53:58,192
SPIELBERG:
And a lot of the movie
was done that way.
1270
00:53:58,276 --> 00:54:00,653
The whole scene between
Dreyfuss and Shaw,
1271
00:54:00,737 --> 00:54:02,488
sort of challenging
each other,
1272
00:54:02,572 --> 00:54:05,283
where Quint drinks
an entire can of beer,
1273
00:54:05,366 --> 00:54:06,826
and he crushes the can.
1274
00:54:07,744 --> 00:54:10,538
And Dreyfuss has a little
Dixie Styrofoam cup of coffee,
1275
00:54:10,621 --> 00:54:12,290
and he crushes the Styrofoam.
1276
00:54:14,083 --> 00:54:15,293
That was made up on the day.
1277
00:54:15,376 --> 00:54:17,670
But we kept throwing
ideas into the pot.
1278
00:54:18,171 --> 00:54:19,839
SHAW: Well, you know,
we'll go out there.
1279
00:54:19,922 --> 00:54:21,007
There's just the three of us,
1280
00:54:21,090 --> 00:54:23,426
Scheider, Dreyfuss,
me and the shark.
1281
00:54:23,509 --> 00:54:25,845
I think I know every detail
of those two men's lives,
1282
00:54:25,928 --> 00:54:29,390
and it has been,
to some extent, very boring.
1283
00:54:29,474 --> 00:54:31,976
They were three
very different men
1284
00:54:32,059 --> 00:54:34,729
at three very different
stages of their careers.
1285
00:54:34,812 --> 00:54:38,065
But I think
part of the chemistry
1286
00:54:38,149 --> 00:54:41,068
is that there was
a bit of themselves
1287
00:54:41,152 --> 00:54:42,904
that bled into those roles.
1288
00:54:42,987 --> 00:54:45,156
You've got city hands,
Mr. Hooper.
1289
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,699
You've been
counting money all your life.
1290
00:54:46,783 --> 00:54:48,367
All right, all right.
Hey, I don't need this!
1291
00:54:48,451 --> 00:54:50,912
I don't need this
working-class hero crap!
1292
00:54:50,995 --> 00:54:52,330
SCHEIDER:
We were very competitive.
1293
00:54:52,413 --> 00:54:55,416
And the desire
for all three to excel
1294
00:54:56,292 --> 00:54:59,670
pushed most of the scenes
right to their limits.
1295
00:55:00,213 --> 00:55:02,632
And I think it was
a challenge every day out,
1296
00:55:02,715 --> 00:55:06,010
to do as good or better
as the other guy.
1297
00:55:06,093 --> 00:55:08,971
It also is exactly
what's happening in the story.
1298
00:55:09,472 --> 00:55:11,390
And that, of course,
helps the film.
1299
00:55:11,474 --> 00:55:12,767
What you got here?
1300
00:55:12,850 --> 00:55:14,977
A portable shower
or a monkey cage?
1301
00:55:15,061 --> 00:55:16,437
Anti-shark cage.
1302
00:55:16,979 --> 00:55:20,608
Robert's off-screen
skirmishes with Richard
1303
00:55:20,691 --> 00:55:22,902
helped the chemistry
of the piece.
1304
00:55:23,528 --> 00:55:25,029
SHAW: We all have
different methods.
1305
00:55:25,112 --> 00:55:27,740
I do tend to drink
when totally bored,
1306
00:55:27,824 --> 00:55:31,202
and Roy does exercises
and sunbathes,
1307
00:55:31,285 --> 00:55:33,371
Scheider does that,
and Dreyfuss talks.
1308
00:55:33,454 --> 00:55:34,664
Dreyfuss just talks.
1309
00:55:35,206 --> 00:55:37,500
DREYFUSS: The character,
as explained to me
1310
00:55:37,583 --> 00:55:39,627
before we began shooting,
interested me.
1311
00:55:40,670 --> 00:55:43,089
INTERVIEWER:
And after you had started
shooting, what happened?
1312
00:55:45,550 --> 00:55:47,093
I had made a mistake.
1313
00:55:47,176 --> 00:55:49,554
SPIELBERG: There was a lot
of Richard challenging Robert,
1314
00:55:49,637 --> 00:55:51,430
and Robert
challenging Richard.
1315
00:55:51,514 --> 00:55:53,266
Stop playing
with yourself, Hooper!
1316
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:54,600
They were kind of
sparring partners.
1317
00:55:54,684 --> 00:55:56,477
Hooper! Full throttle!
1318
00:55:56,561 --> 00:55:59,105
I don't have to take
this abuse much longer.
1319
00:55:59,188 --> 00:56:01,482
But it really turned out,
in hindsight,
1320
00:56:01,566 --> 00:56:03,442
to be a kind of playful banter
1321
00:56:03,943 --> 00:56:06,529
that was unique to their
personal relationships.
1322
00:56:07,196 --> 00:56:10,741
DREYFUSS:
Robert was one of the most
powerful people I've ever met.
1323
00:56:10,825 --> 00:56:12,618
Incredibly intense.
1324
00:56:12,702 --> 00:56:15,538
I mean, there was something
that radiated out of him.
1325
00:56:15,621 --> 00:56:18,583
He was a remarkably gifted
actor and writer.
1326
00:56:18,666 --> 00:56:20,793
He was also, unfortunately,
1327
00:56:20,877 --> 00:56:23,713
the most extraordinarily
competitive person.
1328
00:56:24,505 --> 00:56:26,132
Unnecessarily competitive.
1329
00:56:26,716 --> 00:56:28,217
LAN: There was
a love-hate relationship
1330
00:56:28,301 --> 00:56:29,510
between the two of them.
1331
00:56:29,594 --> 00:56:33,973
Robert was very frustrated
with Richard's attitude.
1332
00:56:34,056 --> 00:56:37,435
As an actor, it's been
an exercise in futility.
1333
00:56:37,518 --> 00:56:40,146
And Robert gave him
a really hard time,
1334
00:56:40,229 --> 00:56:41,564
at least publicly.
1335
00:56:42,148 --> 00:56:44,609
But also, Robert could see
the talent that was there,
1336
00:56:44,692 --> 00:56:46,986
and wanted him to succeed.
1337
00:56:47,069 --> 00:56:48,988
You want a drink?
Drink to your leg?
1338
00:56:49,071 --> 00:56:51,574
I'll drink to your leg.
Okay, so we drink to our legs.
1339
00:56:51,657 --> 00:56:52,658
(LAUGHS)
1340
00:56:52,742 --> 00:56:54,619
SPIELBERG:
The scene that I'm proudest
of in Jaws
1341
00:56:54,702 --> 00:56:56,120
was everything
that takes place
1342
00:56:56,203 --> 00:56:58,289
in that one night
in that cabin.
1343
00:56:58,372 --> 00:57:01,125
From the scar comparing
1344
00:57:01,208 --> 00:57:03,169
right through
the Indianapolis speech,
1345
00:57:03,252 --> 00:57:05,463
is something that
I actually and objectively,
1346
00:57:05,546 --> 00:57:06,964
can watch over and over again.
1347
00:57:08,382 --> 00:57:09,926
(LAUGHS)
1348
00:57:10,718 --> 00:57:13,346
So, Hooper, that's
the USS Indianapolis.
1349
00:57:14,847 --> 00:57:18,351
Not only is it
the 50th anniversary of Jaws,
1350
00:57:18,434 --> 00:57:20,311
but it's also
the 80th anniversary
1351
00:57:20,394 --> 00:57:22,521
of the sinking of
the USS Indianapolis.
1352
00:57:22,605 --> 00:57:24,190
You were
on the Indianapolis?
1353
00:57:24,273 --> 00:57:25,399
One of the greatest things
1354
00:57:25,483 --> 00:57:26,984
Howard Sackler
left me with was,
1355
00:57:27,068 --> 00:57:30,237
he said, "I'd like to give
Quint a motivation
1356
00:57:30,321 --> 00:57:32,031
for his hatred of sharks.
1357
00:57:33,115 --> 00:57:35,993
"Have you ever heard
of the USS Indianapolis?"
1358
00:57:36,077 --> 00:57:37,662
And I got to tell you,
I hadn't.
1359
00:57:38,329 --> 00:57:40,539
He told me the story
of the Indianapolis
1360
00:57:40,623 --> 00:57:43,042
and its duty in World War ll,
1361
00:57:43,125 --> 00:57:46,212
bringing bomb parts
for the atomic bomb.
1362
00:57:46,295 --> 00:57:47,463
What happened?
1363
00:57:48,756 --> 00:57:51,425
Japanese submarine
slammed two torpedoes
1364
00:57:51,509 --> 00:57:53,094
into her side, Chief.
1365
00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:55,763
1,100 men went into the water.
1366
00:57:56,764 --> 00:57:58,683
Vessel went down
in 12 minutes.
1367
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,019
And all hands in the water,
1368
00:58:02,103 --> 00:58:04,230
ravaged by sharks.
1369
00:58:04,313 --> 00:58:06,857
Didn't see the first shark
for about half an hour.
1370
00:58:07,483 --> 00:58:09,276
GOTTLIEB: Sackler knew
about the Indianapolis.
1371
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,653
Well, he was in the Navy.
1372
00:58:10,736 --> 00:58:14,115
And he brought that incident
into the screenplay.
1373
00:58:14,198 --> 00:58:16,575
He said, "This is
the motivation we need."
1374
00:58:16,659 --> 00:58:20,496
Very first light, Chief,
sharks come cruising.
1375
00:58:21,247 --> 00:58:22,331
SPIELBERG:
And down the road a bit,
1376
00:58:22,415 --> 00:58:23,749
I went to my friend,
John Milius.
1377
00:58:23,833 --> 00:58:26,877
He wrote Apocalypse Now
and was a wonderful director.
1378
00:58:26,961 --> 00:58:28,295
And I said,
"John, read the script
1379
00:58:28,379 --> 00:58:29,839
"and focus on this speech."
1380
00:58:30,506 --> 00:58:31,966
So John went away
and he came back
1381
00:58:32,049 --> 00:58:34,927
and he sent me
a seven and a half,
eight page monologue.
1382
00:58:36,095 --> 00:58:38,222
Shaw said, "This is
gonna bore the audience.
1383
00:58:38,305 --> 00:58:40,850
"I can't sit there
and talk for eight minutes.
1384
00:58:41,684 --> 00:58:43,728
"Will you let me
tonight, go home
1385
00:58:43,811 --> 00:58:45,604
and do a little
rewrite of the speech?"
1386
00:58:45,688 --> 00:58:47,648
I said, "Please, have at it."
1387
00:58:48,899 --> 00:58:50,776
And Robert Shaw
was a wonderful writer.
1388
00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:52,903
He had written
The Man in the Glass Booth,
the play.
1389
00:58:54,196 --> 00:58:55,781
And that's what
is in the movie.
1390
00:58:56,365 --> 00:58:58,242
The shark comes
to the nearest man
1391
00:58:58,325 --> 00:59:01,078
and then he starts poundin',
hollerin' and screamin'.
1392
00:59:01,162 --> 00:59:02,997
Sometimes the shark
would go away...
1393
00:59:04,790 --> 00:59:06,417
sometimes he
wouldn't go away.
1394
00:59:07,043 --> 00:59:09,920
It's a fascinating thing
to watch Robert Shaw
1395
00:59:10,004 --> 00:59:14,300
make the choice to play it
with a smile, with relish,
1396
00:59:14,884 --> 00:59:18,012
and for you to then
understand his obsession.
1397
00:59:18,095 --> 00:59:20,222
Like, he's haunted
by the screams of those men
1398
00:59:20,306 --> 00:59:22,516
who all died around him,
and you feel it.
1399
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,394
The whole scene
pulses with trauma.
1400
00:59:25,478 --> 00:59:27,063
Ah, then you hear
that terrible
1401
00:59:27,146 --> 00:59:28,814
high-pitch screamin'.
1402
00:59:29,356 --> 00:59:31,108
The ocean turns red.
1403
00:59:31,609 --> 00:59:34,195
In spite
of all the poundin'
and the hollerin',
1404
00:59:34,278 --> 00:59:35,613
they all come in, they...
1405
00:59:37,114 --> 00:59:39,033
rip you to pieces.
1406
00:59:39,116 --> 00:59:41,327
How do you psych yourself up
for this kind of...
1407
00:59:41,410 --> 00:59:45,289
Well, scotch, vodka,
gin, whatever.
1408
00:59:45,372 --> 00:59:46,665
With every week
we were shooting,
1409
00:59:46,749 --> 00:59:47,958
he was becoming more
and more like Quint.
1410
00:59:48,584 --> 00:59:50,961
He said to me,
"I just want to have
1411
00:59:51,045 --> 00:59:52,171
a little buzz when
I'm doing the speech,
1412
00:59:52,254 --> 00:59:55,633
"because I don't
want to play drunk
or act inebriated.
1413
00:59:55,716 --> 00:59:58,219
"Just one small drink,
and that's all
I'm gonna need."
1414
00:59:58,302 --> 01:00:00,429
INTERVIEWER: Have you pulled
any benders, you, yourself,
1415
01:00:00,513 --> 01:00:01,680
while you're here?
No.
1416
01:00:01,764 --> 01:00:04,600
The only time
I'm ever drunk ever
is on television.
1417
01:00:04,683 --> 01:00:07,561
I'm never drunk
in private life
or at work, or...
1418
01:00:07,645 --> 01:00:08,813
You all know that.
1419
01:00:08,896 --> 01:00:11,482
Stupidly, I said,
"Sure! Go ahead."
1420
01:00:12,066 --> 01:00:13,317
I would never do that today.
1421
01:00:14,610 --> 01:00:16,362
The next day,
two crew members
1422
01:00:16,445 --> 01:00:18,697
had to help Robert
onto the Orca.
1423
01:00:20,282 --> 01:00:23,577
And he wasn't able to really
get through the speech.
1424
01:00:24,829 --> 01:00:27,706
That night, I'm sleeping,
sound asleep, my phone rings.
1425
01:00:27,790 --> 01:00:29,583
And it's Robert on the phone.
1426
01:00:30,209 --> 01:00:33,254
He says, "What happened?
Did I embarrass you?
1427
01:00:33,337 --> 01:00:35,673
"I am so sorry if I did,
I won't have a drink.
1428
01:00:35,756 --> 01:00:37,550
"Please give me a chance
to do this tomorrow."
1429
01:00:37,633 --> 01:00:39,718
And he knocked it out
of the ballpark the next day.
1430
01:00:39,802 --> 01:00:40,803
That was it.
1431
01:00:40,886 --> 01:00:41,887
Anyway...
1432
01:00:43,222 --> 01:00:44,557
we delivered the bomb.
1433
01:00:45,850 --> 01:00:47,935
Quint chose to be
a shark hunter,
1434
01:00:48,018 --> 01:00:49,311
and he's put himself
in direct line
1435
01:00:49,395 --> 01:00:52,148
with the thing that's caused
all this trauma from the past.
1436
01:00:52,815 --> 01:00:53,983
Part of him is thinking,
1437
01:00:54,066 --> 01:00:56,443
"If I can overcome this,
I can let go
of the past finally."
1438
01:00:56,944 --> 01:00:58,362
You see fear in his eyes,
1439
01:00:58,904 --> 01:01:01,157
and he thinks,
"This is the shark
that's come to get me."
1440
01:01:02,324 --> 01:01:04,910
There's something really
powerful about that kind of
1441
01:01:04,994 --> 01:01:06,495
inevitable tragic end.
1442
01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:09,665
This was always
this character's fate.
1443
01:01:13,377 --> 01:01:15,754
Great whites have
one of the most impressive
1444
01:01:15,838 --> 01:01:17,256
hunting behaviors,
called a breach.
1445
01:01:19,466 --> 01:01:21,177
Oh, my gosh!
1446
01:01:21,260 --> 01:01:23,262
And you see this
in the movie Jaws
1447
01:01:23,345 --> 01:01:24,430
when it breaches on the Orca.
1448
01:01:26,849 --> 01:01:29,393
I've never seen a great white
do this on a boat.
1449
01:01:30,352 --> 01:01:32,396
Most of the time, you see
great whites breaching,
1450
01:01:32,479 --> 01:01:35,274
it is a sure-fire kill
on a seal.
1451
01:01:35,357 --> 01:01:39,153
But the suspense,
as a piece of cinema,
it was great.
1452
01:01:39,236 --> 01:01:40,905
(PANTING)
1453
01:01:40,988 --> 01:01:44,200
Horror is about things
that shouldn't be but are.
1454
01:01:44,825 --> 01:01:46,744
If the shark is on the boat,
1455
01:01:46,827 --> 01:01:49,955
the laws of physics
and the universe
are upside down.
1456
01:01:51,498 --> 01:01:54,001
My death, you know,
going into the shark's jaws,
1457
01:01:54,084 --> 01:01:56,879
quite an unpleasant thing,
it weighs about several tons.
1458
01:01:56,962 --> 01:01:59,131
And the jaws absolutely
come down on me
1459
01:01:59,215 --> 01:02:00,674
with hydraulic pressure,
you know.
1460
01:02:02,051 --> 01:02:03,427
(SCREAMING)
1461
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:05,596
When you do it
14 or 15 times
1462
01:02:05,679 --> 01:02:07,806
in this kind of weather,
in the cold,
1463
01:02:07,890 --> 01:02:09,516
slide right into it,
1464
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:12,144
and then the teeth
come and bite you.
1465
01:02:12,228 --> 01:02:13,562
Not very nice.
1466
01:02:13,646 --> 01:02:16,106
Now my character's
left aboard the boat,
1467
01:02:16,190 --> 01:02:17,858
and he's trapped
inside the cabin,
1468
01:02:17,942 --> 01:02:18,984
and the boat is sinking.
1469
01:02:19,068 --> 01:02:20,194
INTERVIEWER:
ls this your big scene?
1470
01:02:20,861 --> 01:02:21,862
SCHEIDER: it's the big scene.
1471
01:02:21,946 --> 01:02:23,614
And I'm not gonna
tell you anymore.
1472
01:02:23,697 --> 01:02:25,866
One of the things that,
for me as a kid,
1473
01:02:25,950 --> 01:02:27,201
made me say, "it's real,"
1474
01:02:27,284 --> 01:02:29,078
is the piece of meat.
1475
01:02:29,954 --> 01:02:33,707
When the shark is thrashing,
and you see this piece of meat
1476
01:02:33,791 --> 01:02:36,335
stuck between
the teeth, dangling.
1477
01:02:36,418 --> 01:02:37,836
That is the genius.
1478
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,004
MAN: Okay, start it.
1479
01:02:39,588 --> 01:02:41,507
Okay, Roy, action.
1480
01:02:41,590 --> 01:02:43,175
SPIELBERG:
Blowing up the shark
was not my idea.
1481
01:02:43,801 --> 01:02:45,219
Some of my
earliest collaborators,
1482
01:02:45,302 --> 01:02:47,263
Hal Barwood
and Matthew Robbins,
1483
01:02:47,346 --> 01:02:49,098
they wrote Sugarland Express.
1484
01:02:49,598 --> 01:02:51,225
I gave him Jaws to read,
1485
01:02:51,308 --> 01:02:52,601
and they gave me
a lot of notes.
1486
01:02:52,685 --> 01:02:54,019
And one of the notes was,
1487
01:02:54,103 --> 01:02:55,688
"The shark's got to
blow up at the end."
1488
01:02:55,771 --> 01:02:56,855
"What do you mean,
'Blow up at the end"'?
1489
01:02:56,939 --> 01:02:58,065
"It's got to blow up
in the end,
1490
01:02:58,148 --> 01:02:59,149
"and you know how you do it?
1491
01:03:00,150 --> 01:03:03,779
"You throw into his mouth,
into his jaws, a scuba tank.
1492
01:03:04,488 --> 01:03:07,866
"And then he chomps down
on the scuba tank,
1493
01:03:07,950 --> 01:03:10,536
"and the pressure
from the bite force
blows it up."
1494
01:03:12,371 --> 01:03:13,789
I said, "That's not credible.
1495
01:03:13,872 --> 01:03:16,041
"A shark cannot bite
through a scuba tank."
1496
01:03:17,293 --> 01:03:18,627
And then either
Hal or Matt said,
1497
01:03:18,711 --> 01:03:21,547
"Okay, well, how about
one of the characters
takes a rifle
1498
01:03:21,630 --> 01:03:25,384
"and he shoots a bullet
into the tank
1499
01:03:25,467 --> 01:03:27,511
while the shark
is approaching
1500
01:03:27,594 --> 01:03:29,096
"and blows it up that way?"
1501
01:03:29,179 --> 01:03:31,390
BRODY: Show me the tank.
Show me the tank.
1502
01:03:32,057 --> 01:03:33,100
Blow up!
1503
01:03:33,183 --> 01:03:35,644
CAMERON:
I think it's been debunked
that you can actually blow up
1504
01:03:35,728 --> 01:03:38,731
a charged scuba cylinder
with a high-powered rifle.
1505
01:03:38,814 --> 01:03:40,899
But I was a diver
and I understood
1506
01:03:40,983 --> 01:03:42,609
the power of compressed air,
1507
01:03:42,693 --> 01:03:43,694
so I bought it.
1508
01:03:43,777 --> 01:03:46,363
You screw around
with these tanks
and they're gonna blow up!
1509
01:03:46,447 --> 01:03:48,907
CAMERON: And it was just
a perfect moment of character.
1510
01:03:48,991 --> 01:03:50,367
The fact that he hates water,
1511
01:03:50,451 --> 01:03:51,910
the boat's sinking out
from underneath him,
1512
01:03:51,994 --> 01:03:53,537
the shark's coming
back for him.
1513
01:03:53,620 --> 01:03:56,749
All the pieces fell into place
instantly in the moment.
1514
01:03:58,334 --> 01:04:00,919
And you just wind the tension
tighter and tighter
and tighter,
1515
01:04:01,003 --> 01:04:02,629
and, man, I'll tell you,
that is an art form.
1516
01:04:02,713 --> 01:04:03,964
BRODY: Blow up!
1517
01:04:04,757 --> 01:04:07,468
When you think about it,
it is a bit like
the Death Star moment.
1518
01:04:07,551 --> 01:04:09,053
Smile, you son of a...
1519
01:04:12,139 --> 01:04:14,433
SODERBERGH: There is
an undeniable satisfaction
1520
01:04:14,516 --> 01:04:16,185
in finally destroying
this thing
1521
01:04:16,268 --> 01:04:18,103
that you've seen
cause such carnage.
1522
01:04:18,187 --> 01:04:20,689
(LAUGHING)
1523
01:04:22,816 --> 01:04:25,986
For a movie in which
you've invested two hours,
1524
01:04:26,653 --> 01:04:29,448
you need that kind of release.
1525
01:04:31,325 --> 01:04:33,702
I think the reason it works
is that they really...
1526
01:04:33,786 --> 01:04:34,828
They earn it.
1527
01:04:37,706 --> 01:04:39,875
When the film wrapped
in Martha's Vineyard,
1528
01:04:39,958 --> 01:04:42,211
I had a full-blown
1529
01:04:42,878 --> 01:04:43,879
panic attack.
1530
01:04:45,756 --> 01:04:48,467
I was in it, shall I say,
over my head
1531
01:04:48,550 --> 01:04:51,345
for about seven
or eight months
on Martha's Vineyard.
1532
01:04:51,428 --> 01:04:53,722
It was, logistically,
the most difficult movie
1533
01:04:53,806 --> 01:04:55,307
I think I'll ever make.
1534
01:04:55,391 --> 01:04:58,435
I couldn't breathe,
I thought I was having
a heart attack.
1535
01:04:58,519 --> 01:05:00,312
I couldn't get
a full breath of air.
1536
01:05:00,396 --> 01:05:01,480
I kept going to the bathroom
1537
01:05:01,563 --> 01:05:03,607
and splashing water
on my face.
1538
01:05:03,690 --> 01:05:05,234
I was shaking.
1539
01:05:05,317 --> 01:05:07,569
And I was... I was out of it.
1540
01:05:07,653 --> 01:05:09,405
I was completely out of it.
1541
01:05:10,239 --> 01:05:11,573
And I think it was everything
1542
01:05:11,657 --> 01:05:13,242
that I had experienced
on the island,
1543
01:05:13,325 --> 01:05:15,744
at least trying to not only
hold myself together,
1544
01:05:15,828 --> 01:05:17,454
but hold the crew together.
1545
01:05:17,538 --> 01:05:19,706
And I had
great people helping me
hold the crew together.
1546
01:05:19,790 --> 01:05:24,128
I had Tom Joyner, the AD,
I had Bill Butler, the DP,
1547
01:05:24,211 --> 01:05:26,296
Mike Chapman,
the camera operator.
1548
01:05:27,172 --> 01:05:29,174
I had just a great crew,
1549
01:05:29,258 --> 01:05:31,635
and yet I felt responsible
for everybody there,
1550
01:05:31,718 --> 01:05:33,178
and I felt really responsible
for keeping them there
1551
01:05:33,262 --> 01:05:35,681
for as long as we had to stay.
1552
01:05:35,764 --> 01:05:37,391
And I think I just lost it.
1553
01:05:42,688 --> 01:05:44,064
WOMAN: Well, we're looking
for a nice place
1554
01:05:44,148 --> 01:05:46,442
to show that Quint refuses
to slow down the boat.
1555
01:05:53,407 --> 01:05:54,491
And we'll splice it.
1556
01:05:56,452 --> 01:06:00,497
Verna Fields, she was
a force of stability for me.
1557
01:06:00,581 --> 01:06:02,791
Am in trouble
with Jaws? (LAUGHS)
1558
01:06:02,875 --> 01:06:04,168
In Jaws trouble?
1559
01:06:04,251 --> 01:06:06,587
Verna was working
at Martha's Vineyard.
1560
01:06:07,337 --> 01:06:09,339
I mean, I'm looking
for our mark, our good place.
1561
01:06:10,090 --> 01:06:11,383
That's the spot, Steve.
1562
01:06:11,467 --> 01:06:14,052
But once they wrapped
in Martha's Vineyard,
1563
01:06:14,136 --> 01:06:18,015
they came back to LA
and they shot in the MGM tank.
1564
01:06:19,808 --> 01:06:21,393
MAN 1: You want to
walk the plank here, Steven?
1565
01:06:21,477 --> 01:06:22,603
This is it.
1566
01:06:25,814 --> 01:06:27,107
We are ready.
1567
01:06:27,191 --> 01:06:28,358
MAN 2:
Roll B camera, please.
1568
01:06:30,444 --> 01:06:32,905
The whole attack in the cage
of the mechanical shark
1569
01:06:32,988 --> 01:06:36,241
attacking Richard Dreyfuss,
was done in the tank at MGM.
1570
01:06:36,825 --> 01:06:37,910
MAN 2: Okay, attack!
1571
01:06:43,790 --> 01:06:47,044
And also the close-ups
of the shark on the surface,
1572
01:06:47,127 --> 01:06:48,545
with the tank in its mouth.
1573
01:06:49,379 --> 01:06:50,380
And even the shots of, like,
1574
01:06:50,464 --> 01:06:51,924
the marbles that
they were slingshotting
1575
01:06:52,007 --> 01:06:54,927
through the water
to resemble the bullets.
1576
01:06:55,010 --> 01:06:56,553
Even though we wrapped
in Martha's Vineyard,
1577
01:06:56,637 --> 01:06:58,972
the film kept shooting
for another two months.
1578
01:06:59,973 --> 01:07:02,559
Cut, cut, cut, cut,
cut, cut, cut, cut.
1579
01:07:02,643 --> 01:07:03,810
Once again, right away.
1580
01:07:03,894 --> 01:07:07,523
In a couple of cases,
he had to go rogue
1581
01:07:07,606 --> 01:07:11,151
and pick up some of these
inserts on his own
1582
01:07:11,235 --> 01:07:13,487
without really
letting anybody know.
1583
01:07:13,570 --> 01:07:17,366
Because they told him,
like, "The spigot is off."
1584
01:07:18,450 --> 01:07:22,287
I actually went into my editor
Verna Field's swimming pool
in the Valley.
1585
01:07:22,371 --> 01:07:23,580
I think Sherman Oaks.
1586
01:07:24,039 --> 01:07:27,584
When Hooper goes underwater
and finds Ben Gardner's head.
1587
01:07:27,668 --> 01:07:29,169
We went into the pool,
we shot it.
1588
01:07:29,878 --> 01:07:32,339
Keeps going back
and making changes
1589
01:07:32,422 --> 01:07:35,425
and redoing things
and making them better.
1590
01:07:36,009 --> 01:07:37,594
Hey! I got it!
1591
01:07:37,678 --> 01:07:39,137
(LINE ZIPPING)
1592
01:07:40,264 --> 01:07:41,765
What?
Get behind me.
1593
01:07:41,848 --> 01:07:43,642
Watching Jaws
for the first time
1594
01:07:43,725 --> 01:07:45,102
was a wonderful experience,
1595
01:07:45,185 --> 01:07:47,854
I would say, also very typical
of Steven Spielberg
1596
01:07:47,938 --> 01:07:49,439
and his filmmaking technique
1597
01:07:49,523 --> 01:07:51,984
and the fun that
he has making films.
1598
01:07:52,067 --> 01:07:54,194
And I remember thinking
and telling him that
1599
01:07:54,278 --> 01:07:57,197
it was a great opportunity
for me to create music
1600
01:07:57,281 --> 01:07:59,575
with a very young man
that I worked with once,
1601
01:07:59,658 --> 01:08:01,994
Sugarland Express,
who I liked enormously.
1602
01:08:02,077 --> 01:08:03,036
Show me the bass.
1603
01:08:03,161 --> 01:08:05,038
It should be big
on the A, D.
MAN: Yeah.
1604
01:08:05,122 --> 01:08:07,291
You have two notes there.
(NOTES PLAYING ON INSTRUMENT)
1605
01:08:07,374 --> 01:08:10,711
I don't know that
you can talk about Jaws
1606
01:08:10,794 --> 01:08:14,339
without talking about
those two iconic notes
1607
01:08:14,423 --> 01:08:16,258
that John Williams created.
1608
01:08:17,384 --> 01:08:19,344
SPIELBERG: All human beings
come equipped...
1609
01:08:19,428 --> 01:08:20,637
Hey, take, please.
1610
01:08:20,721 --> 01:08:23,849
...to be able to
suspend our disbelief,
1611
01:08:23,932 --> 01:08:26,977
to be transported
more by music
1612
01:08:27,060 --> 01:08:30,647
than any other
single art stimulus.
1613
01:08:31,607 --> 01:08:35,569
Music, with our eyes closed,
will take us places
1614
01:08:35,652 --> 01:08:38,447
that no other medium
or art form can take us.
1615
01:08:39,072 --> 01:08:41,908
John Williams told us
when to react
1616
01:08:41,992 --> 01:08:45,037
and when to start
getting ready for an attack.
1617
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,748
One, two, three, one.
1618
01:08:47,831 --> 01:08:50,834
John Williams
showed you the power
of just music and image,
1619
01:08:50,917 --> 01:08:54,212
and you see the victim
from the predator's
point of view.
1620
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,674
That relentless score
with those low cellos,
1621
01:08:57,758 --> 01:08:59,134
you become that shark.
1622
01:09:00,510 --> 01:09:03,180
This idea of characterizing
the shark musically...
1623
01:09:03,263 --> 01:09:04,890
He's taking it.
He's taking it. Hey!
1624
01:09:04,973 --> 01:09:07,392
WILLIAMS:
...was the result of a
very simple idea that I had.
1625
01:09:07,476 --> 01:09:09,686
I thought maybe
some kind of bom, bom,
bom, bom, bom,
1626
01:09:09,770 --> 01:09:13,357
might indicate this
mindless attack of the shark,
1627
01:09:14,024 --> 01:09:15,901
this relentless
drive that it has.
1628
01:09:16,818 --> 01:09:18,654
And you don't know if
it will work on an audience
1629
01:09:18,737 --> 01:09:19,821
until you try it.
1630
01:09:27,579 --> 01:09:29,373
REBELLO: Next door
is The Island Theater.
1631
01:09:29,456 --> 01:09:31,124
It's closed down
at the moment.
1632
01:09:31,208 --> 01:09:34,753
But back in 1975,
when the movie came out,
1633
01:09:34,836 --> 01:09:35,879
it had the premiere there.
1634
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,466
It was the biggest thing
to really hit the island
1635
01:09:39,549 --> 01:09:40,717
in my lifetime, at that point.
1636
01:09:44,513 --> 01:09:47,349
When they had
the debut in June,
1637
01:09:47,432 --> 01:09:49,226
it was very crowded, very hot.
1638
01:09:50,310 --> 01:09:53,480
And a bunch of us got
to go in and sit upstairs,
1639
01:09:53,563 --> 01:09:55,440
which is like the VIP area.
1640
01:09:56,650 --> 01:09:58,110
We didn't know what to expect.
1641
01:09:58,735 --> 01:10:00,737
Within ten minutes,
I'm jumping out of my seat
and I'm saying,
1642
01:10:00,821 --> 01:10:02,698
"I never saw that when I was
on the beach all summer."
1643
01:10:03,365 --> 01:10:05,409
We started to realize that,
while we experienced
1644
01:10:05,492 --> 01:10:07,452
this whole summer
on the beach,
1645
01:10:08,036 --> 01:10:10,664
we never really knew
how a movie's made.
1646
01:10:10,747 --> 01:10:13,041
My whole first time I saw it,
1647
01:10:13,125 --> 01:10:15,836
was just seeing
who was in it
that I didn't know.
1648
01:10:16,670 --> 01:10:18,922
MAN 1: You know, it was
almost embarrassing.
1649
01:10:19,673 --> 01:10:22,551
It was the first time
I'd seen myself on the screen,
1650
01:10:22,634 --> 01:10:24,010
but to see
the finished product
1651
01:10:24,094 --> 01:10:26,346
be as spectacular as it was,
1652
01:10:26,430 --> 01:10:27,848
was very rewarding.
1653
01:10:28,598 --> 01:10:31,184
WENDY: David Brown
and Richard Zanuck
asked Peter and I
1654
01:10:31,268 --> 01:10:34,354
to go to a private
screening of Jaws
1655
01:10:34,438 --> 01:10:37,149
along with many
of our dive friends,
1656
01:10:37,232 --> 01:10:40,610
Ron and Valerie Taylor,
Stan Waterman.
1657
01:10:40,694 --> 01:10:43,238
And we had no idea
whether this movie
1658
01:10:43,321 --> 01:10:45,657
was going to really
work with people
1659
01:10:45,741 --> 01:10:48,118
who knew the ocean
and knew sharks.
1660
01:10:48,201 --> 01:10:51,496
And at the end, they all
got up and applauded
1661
01:10:51,580 --> 01:10:54,040
and thought it was
absolutely fabulous.
1662
01:10:55,041 --> 01:10:57,711
MAN 2: it was the first movie
to break $100 million.
1663
01:10:57,794 --> 01:11:00,046
It annihilated the competition
that had come before it.
1664
01:11:00,130 --> 01:11:02,758
The Exorcist, The Godfather,
those big massive hits.
1665
01:11:02,841 --> 01:11:04,634
Jaws eclipsed them
by a long, long way.
1666
01:11:04,718 --> 01:11:07,387
And by the end of it,
it actually finished
its domestic run,
1667
01:11:07,471 --> 01:11:09,347
it had made a quarter
of a billion dollars,
1668
01:11:09,431 --> 01:11:11,975
which is over
a billion dollars today.
1669
01:11:12,058 --> 01:11:13,101
GOTTLIEB: There were
mixed reviews.
1670
01:11:13,185 --> 01:11:15,812
The reviews at first
were what we were expecting,
1671
01:11:15,896 --> 01:11:18,648
which was, "Okay, here's
the popcorn summer picture."
1672
01:11:18,732 --> 01:11:20,233
And it wasn't until, like,
1673
01:11:20,317 --> 01:11:23,445
the third month of release
when it kept grossing.
1674
01:11:23,528 --> 01:11:24,988
A lot of the reviewers said,
1675
01:11:25,071 --> 01:11:26,740
"You know, there's
something here we missed,"
1676
01:11:26,823 --> 01:11:28,658
and that turned out
to be true.
1677
01:11:30,285 --> 01:11:32,287
The summer and fall of '75
1678
01:11:32,370 --> 01:11:35,832
had two major events
in terms of our culture.
1679
01:11:35,916 --> 01:11:37,876
Jaws became a part
of the culture.
1680
01:11:37,959 --> 01:11:41,087
And they had
the first live telecast
1681
01:11:41,171 --> 01:11:42,214
of Saturday Night Live.
1682
01:11:42,297 --> 01:11:45,008
Live from New York,
it's Saturday night!
1683
01:11:45,091 --> 01:11:48,512
I was in the audience
when the land shark showed up.
1684
01:11:48,595 --> 01:11:49,596
What is it?
1685
01:11:50,222 --> 01:11:51,223
Land shark.
1686
01:11:51,306 --> 01:11:53,266
Remember Candygram?
MAN 1: Candygram.
1687
01:11:53,975 --> 01:11:55,018
That was hysterical!
1688
01:11:55,101 --> 01:11:56,269
(SCREAMS)
1689
01:11:57,145 --> 01:11:58,730
Not only was it summer,
1690
01:11:58,814 --> 01:12:01,191
and suddenly you were afraid
of going to the beach,
1691
01:12:01,274 --> 01:12:02,400
but it was also
just something that
1692
01:12:02,484 --> 01:12:03,652
was on everyone's lips.
1693
01:12:03,735 --> 01:12:05,278
Jaws! (LAUGHS)
1694
01:12:05,362 --> 01:12:08,740
Jaws wasn't just a movie,
it was a pop culture
phenomenon.
1695
01:12:09,366 --> 01:12:11,701
People wanted to put things on
that were about Jaws.
1696
01:12:12,536 --> 01:12:14,579
And I desperately
wanted a T-shirt.
1697
01:12:16,706 --> 01:12:20,252
The first two records I bought
as a kid with my own money
1698
01:12:20,335 --> 01:12:21,711
were The Godfather and Jaws.
1699
01:12:21,795 --> 01:12:23,922
MAN 2: Shark business
has been terrific.
1700
01:12:24,464 --> 01:12:26,842
Everything's gone
that even looks like a shark.
1701
01:12:26,925 --> 01:12:29,803
And I just wanted to get
every little thing
I could find,
1702
01:12:29,886 --> 01:12:31,680
toys, magazines, books.
1703
01:12:32,264 --> 01:12:34,099
SPIELBERG: Jaws made
the cover of Time,
1704
01:12:34,182 --> 01:12:36,101
and we also made
the cover of Mad Magazine.
1705
01:12:36,726 --> 01:12:38,603
I got to tell you,
I was prouder
1706
01:12:38,687 --> 01:12:40,397
of being on the cover
of Mad Magazine.
1707
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:41,940
(LAUGHS)
1708
01:12:42,023 --> 01:12:43,859
They had towels and T-shirts.
1709
01:12:44,359 --> 01:12:47,112
There's that great picture
of Dick Zanuck sitting there
1710
01:12:47,195 --> 01:12:48,822
with all the merch around him.
1711
01:12:49,865 --> 01:12:52,909
So it became this monster
in its own right.
1712
01:12:58,790 --> 01:13:00,250
When a film is on the cusp
1713
01:13:00,333 --> 01:13:02,794
of being considered
for awards,
1714
01:13:02,878 --> 01:13:05,589
it's not so much
what you want for yourself,
1715
01:13:05,672 --> 01:13:08,675
it's what everybody else says
is going to happen for you.
1716
01:13:08,758 --> 01:13:10,176
Steve, if you're not
number one,
1717
01:13:10,260 --> 01:13:11,553
then I know there's a fix in.
1718
01:13:12,304 --> 01:13:13,805
SPIELBERG:
So I just understood
1719
01:13:13,889 --> 01:13:15,056
that I guess
I'm getting nominated.
1720
01:13:16,099 --> 01:13:18,310
So when I wasn't,
I was surprised,
1721
01:13:18,393 --> 01:13:19,644
and I was disappointed.
1722
01:13:19,728 --> 01:13:21,855
I wasn't nominated
for best director for Jaws.
1723
01:13:21,938 --> 01:13:24,608
Because I was
believing the noise,
1724
01:13:24,691 --> 01:13:26,651
and you have to not
believe that stuff.
1725
01:13:28,069 --> 01:13:29,863
But the film won for music.
1726
01:13:29,946 --> 01:13:31,197
John Williams for Jaws.
1727
01:13:31,281 --> 01:13:32,282
SPIELBERG: And sound.
1728
01:13:32,365 --> 01:13:35,201
Robert L. Hoyt,
Roger Heman, Earl Madery
1729
01:13:35,285 --> 01:13:36,703
and John Carter for Jaws!
1730
01:13:36,786 --> 01:13:37,996
SPIELBERG: And editing.
1731
01:13:38,538 --> 01:13:40,332
Verna Fields for Jaws.
1732
01:13:41,666 --> 01:13:44,878
SPIELBERG: And Jaws was up
for best picture against
1733
01:13:44,961 --> 01:13:46,796
One Flew Over
the Cuckoo's Nest,
1734
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,632
which, of course,
won the Oscar.
1735
01:13:48,715 --> 01:13:49,925
Oh, yeah,
I would have voted for
1736
01:13:50,008 --> 01:13:51,217
One Flew Over
the Cuckoo's Nest
1737
01:13:51,301 --> 01:13:52,552
over Jaws for best picture.
1738
01:13:52,636 --> 01:13:53,678
I would have done that.
1739
01:13:54,262 --> 01:13:55,639
REPORTER: You have
to ask the question,
1740
01:13:55,722 --> 01:13:58,224
would people have gotten
this excited over a shark
1741
01:13:58,308 --> 01:13:59,309
two or three years ago,
1742
01:13:59,392 --> 01:14:01,895
before the book
and the movie of Jaws?
1743
01:14:01,978 --> 01:14:03,813
Well, one of the crewmen
on the boat that caught it
1744
01:14:03,897 --> 01:14:05,523
said, "Two or three years ago,
1745
01:14:05,607 --> 01:14:08,151
"we wouldn't have even
taken the time to catch it."
1746
01:14:08,234 --> 01:14:11,655
When Jaws came out,
we were truly horrified
1747
01:14:11,738 --> 01:14:15,408
to see that some people
took it as a license
1748
01:14:15,492 --> 01:14:16,826
to go kill sharks.
1749
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:20,997
One of the bad things
that came out of the film
1750
01:14:21,081 --> 01:14:22,832
was shark hunting spiked.
1751
01:14:22,916 --> 01:14:25,085
MAN 3: Teeth fall out
and you put them
on a gold chain
1752
01:14:25,168 --> 01:14:26,544
and you go to the movie
and see Jaws,
1753
01:14:26,628 --> 01:14:27,879
and you have it made.
1754
01:14:27,963 --> 01:14:28,964
Everybody thinks
you're the best.
1755
01:14:29,047 --> 01:14:31,007
Trophy hunting
was very popular,
1756
01:14:31,091 --> 01:14:33,259
and the numbers
of white sharks
1757
01:14:33,343 --> 01:14:36,096
had gone down as much as 80%.
1758
01:14:36,972 --> 01:14:38,682
People wanted
to be like Quint,
1759
01:14:39,307 --> 01:14:41,559
people wanted
to have that trophy
1760
01:14:41,643 --> 01:14:42,686
that they could show off.
1761
01:14:42,769 --> 01:14:45,105
$10,000 for me, by myself.
1762
01:14:45,188 --> 01:14:47,607
For that, you get
the head, the tail,
1763
01:14:47,691 --> 01:14:49,442
the whole damn thing.
1764
01:14:49,526 --> 01:14:52,445
There's definitely that
kind of negative connotation
1765
01:14:52,529 --> 01:14:54,906
that came from Jaws
about sharks,
1766
01:14:54,990 --> 01:14:56,616
which is very unfortunate
because I think
1767
01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:58,284
there's other
takeaways as well.
1768
01:14:58,994 --> 01:15:00,578
The impact of the movie,
you know,
1769
01:15:00,662 --> 01:15:02,664
was horrendous at first,
1770
01:15:02,747 --> 01:15:04,165
but now people
are really interested
1771
01:15:04,249 --> 01:15:05,250
in the shark itself,
1772
01:15:05,333 --> 01:15:07,043
you know, not just
something scary.
1773
01:15:08,420 --> 01:15:09,546
Because of this film,
1774
01:15:09,629 --> 01:15:13,258
we've had so much energy
that has come into the field
1775
01:15:13,341 --> 01:15:14,884
of learning
and understanding sharks
1776
01:15:14,968 --> 01:15:16,344
and also safeguarding them.
1777
01:15:18,346 --> 01:15:20,849
SKERRY: There's hundreds
of species of sharks.
1778
01:15:20,932 --> 01:15:24,894
They all do vital things,
keeping the ocean healthy,
1779
01:15:25,854 --> 01:15:28,690
and therefore,
the scariest thing
1780
01:15:28,773 --> 01:15:30,275
would be an ocean
without sharks.
1781
01:15:31,484 --> 01:15:33,403
Now we're much more
enlightened,
1782
01:15:33,486 --> 01:15:35,405
but there's still horrific
1783
01:15:35,488 --> 01:15:37,824
slaughter of sharks
going on out there.
1784
01:15:37,907 --> 01:15:40,118
There's a lot
of the fishing industry
where they fin them
1785
01:15:40,201 --> 01:15:41,911
and they put them back
in the water still alive,
1786
01:15:41,995 --> 01:15:44,122
so they just sink
to the bottom and die.
1787
01:15:44,205 --> 01:15:47,000
And those of us
that are in ocean conservation
1788
01:15:47,083 --> 01:15:48,501
are trying to prevent that.
1789
01:15:49,085 --> 01:15:52,839
That is the really
big issue in the oceans
1790
01:15:52,922 --> 01:15:55,675
for the devastation
of the shark population.
1791
01:15:57,302 --> 01:16:00,847
With conservation efforts
and protection of the species,
1792
01:16:00,930 --> 01:16:03,975
we're seeing the population
start to rebound.
1793
01:16:04,059 --> 01:16:06,186
Today, if a shark
washes up on a beach,
1794
01:16:06,269 --> 01:16:07,270
which has actually happened,
1795
01:16:07,353 --> 01:16:09,522
now we see people
trying to get this animal
1796
01:16:09,606 --> 01:16:11,524
back into the water
and resuscitate it.
1797
01:16:12,108 --> 01:16:14,235
That would have never
happened 50 years ago.
1798
01:16:15,361 --> 01:16:18,823
The negative reaction
hurt us and horrified us,
1799
01:16:18,907 --> 01:16:22,869
and we became passionate
defenders of sharks.
1800
01:16:22,952 --> 01:16:26,456
We went with
the National Geographic
on expeditions,
1801
01:16:26,539 --> 01:16:28,458
and we were so fortunate
1802
01:16:28,541 --> 01:16:31,461
to learn
with these scientists
and other experts.
1803
01:16:31,544 --> 01:16:35,465
After all of this time
of being aware of
and fishing for
1804
01:16:35,548 --> 01:16:37,884
and somehow
encouraging the animal,
1805
01:16:37,967 --> 01:16:39,302
now the time has
come to protect it.
1806
01:16:40,095 --> 01:16:42,180
Peter died in '06,
1807
01:16:42,263 --> 01:16:44,140
and I wish he were here now
1808
01:16:44,224 --> 01:16:46,810
to be able to see
all of these changes,
1809
01:16:46,893 --> 01:16:49,979
and to see that
Jaws is still relevant
1810
01:16:50,063 --> 01:16:51,272
after 50 years.
1811
01:16:51,356 --> 01:16:53,441
I think he'd be
very, very pleased.
1812
01:16:55,777 --> 01:16:58,988
We've also got people outside
of the immediate Jaws family
1813
01:16:59,072 --> 01:17:01,825
picking up the gauntlet
and driving
the legacy forward.
1814
01:17:02,450 --> 01:17:03,743
Like Robert Shaw's son,
1815
01:17:03,827 --> 01:17:06,496
who has co-written a play
called The Shark ls Broken,
1816
01:17:06,579 --> 01:17:08,540
about the making of Jaws,
which is set on the Orca,
1817
01:17:08,623 --> 01:17:09,624
in which he plays his dad.
1818
01:17:09,707 --> 01:17:10,708
(LAUGHING)
1819
01:17:10,792 --> 01:17:12,335
Who gets top billing?
1820
01:17:12,418 --> 01:17:15,880
There's such a generosity
of feeling towards Jaws,
1821
01:17:15,964 --> 01:17:19,551
and there's such a desire
to revisit and go back.
1822
01:17:20,135 --> 01:17:21,803
My father would
have been shocked.
1823
01:17:22,345 --> 01:17:25,014
The idea that
50 years later,
1824
01:17:25,098 --> 01:17:27,934
people would still
be quite so interested.
1825
01:17:28,768 --> 01:17:29,853
He would think
it would be like
1826
01:17:29,936 --> 01:17:31,354
some sort of
weird religious cult.
1827
01:17:32,021 --> 01:17:33,356
I honest to God thought
1828
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,650
I was really the only
Jaws fan out there.
1829
01:17:35,733 --> 01:17:37,318
And then came the Internet.
1830
01:17:38,111 --> 01:17:39,946
Now, on Facebook,
there's Jaws groups.
1831
01:17:40,446 --> 01:17:42,115
Instagram,
there's Jaws groups.
1832
01:17:42,699 --> 01:17:44,242
The Daily Jaws is out there.
1833
01:17:44,784 --> 01:17:47,871
The goal was to post something
about Jaws on social media
1834
01:17:47,954 --> 01:17:50,165
every day to celebrate
the 40th anniversary.
1835
01:17:51,166 --> 01:17:53,793
People were really resonating
with what we were posting,
1836
01:17:53,877 --> 01:17:55,879
and people said,
"You got to keep going."
1837
01:17:55,962 --> 01:17:57,463
So 10 years later,
here we are.
1838
01:17:57,964 --> 01:17:59,716
Just last week,
I was at the grocery store,
1839
01:17:59,799 --> 01:18:03,219
and on the inside
of the grocery cart,
1840
01:18:03,303 --> 01:18:05,805
it said, "You're gonna
need a bigger cart."
1841
01:18:07,098 --> 01:18:08,892
MAN: Jaws has become
one of these movies
1842
01:18:08,975 --> 01:18:10,894
that's kind of taken on
a life of its own.
1843
01:18:10,977 --> 01:18:13,813
In terms of
the main community,
there's quite a few.
1844
01:18:14,647 --> 01:18:16,941
When you look on your phone
and you're looking at the map,
1845
01:18:17,025 --> 01:18:21,529
you see Jaws Bridge as one of
the locations on Google Maps.
1846
01:18:22,030 --> 01:18:25,742
They have names of drinks
at bars named after Jaws.
1847
01:18:25,825 --> 01:18:27,577
For the beach scene in Us,
1848
01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:31,247
I remember begging Steven
to allow me to use
1849
01:18:31,331 --> 01:18:33,333
the Jaws shirt in my scene
1850
01:18:33,416 --> 01:18:35,710
because what he was
doing with Hitchcock,
1851
01:18:35,793 --> 01:18:38,504
I was piggybacking
and sort of doing with him.
1852
01:18:38,588 --> 01:18:42,342
There's still Jaws
merchandise being created.
1853
01:18:45,887 --> 01:18:47,513
There's a LEGO coming out.
1854
01:18:47,597 --> 01:18:49,807
There's people doing
T-shirts, posters.
1855
01:18:49,891 --> 01:18:52,185
And people are still buying it
because they're still drawn
1856
01:18:52,268 --> 01:18:54,646
to everything
associated with Jaws.
1857
01:18:54,729 --> 01:18:56,231
My theme of my birthday party
1858
01:18:56,314 --> 01:18:58,024
when I was, like,
two years old was Jaws..
1859
01:18:58,441 --> 01:18:59,442
What?
Mmm-hmm.
1860
01:19:01,027 --> 01:19:03,738
You know
what's very interesting
about this, Laurent.
1861
01:19:03,863 --> 01:19:06,241
You know that
shower scene in...
INTERVIEWER: Psycho.
1862
01:19:06,324 --> 01:19:08,201
(PLAYS PSYCHO STING)
1863
01:19:08,284 --> 01:19:10,787
Which has terrified us
when we saw the movie,
1864
01:19:10,870 --> 01:19:12,997
and now if I say it
to an audience
1865
01:19:13,081 --> 01:19:14,749
and demonstrate something,
they all laugh.
1866
01:19:14,832 --> 01:19:15,833
It becomes funny.
1867
01:19:15,917 --> 01:19:17,168
What also is funny...
1868
01:19:17,252 --> 01:19:18,544
(PLAYS JAWS THEME)
1869
01:19:18,628 --> 01:19:19,629
They will laugh.
1870
01:19:20,296 --> 01:19:24,050
So there's been a change
of response over the years
1871
01:19:24,133 --> 01:19:26,052
to something that actually,
when we first...
1872
01:19:26,135 --> 01:19:28,179
in the context for which
it was written,
1873
01:19:28,263 --> 01:19:31,140
has become now
a cultural thing.
1874
01:19:31,224 --> 01:19:34,018
Where it's going to be
50 years from now,
I don't know.
1875
01:19:34,936 --> 01:19:36,604
MAN: All right,
it's January 12.
1876
01:19:36,688 --> 01:19:39,816
So we have
successfully stripped
1877
01:19:39,899 --> 01:19:43,486
all of the textured paint off.
1878
01:19:44,279 --> 01:19:47,615
NICOTERO: In 1991, the shark
ended up in a junkyard.
1879
01:19:47,699 --> 01:19:49,075
The junkyard was closing.
1880
01:19:49,158 --> 01:19:52,662
It got donated to the
Motion Picture Academy Museum,
1881
01:19:52,745 --> 01:19:54,247
and I reached out
to them and I said,
1882
01:19:54,330 --> 01:19:57,166
"I would love to do
the restoration."
1883
01:19:57,250 --> 01:19:59,961
I'm friends with Joe Alves.
We can consult.
1884
01:20:00,586 --> 01:20:02,797
I have access to all the
original teeth,
1885
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,550
because the inside
of the mouth
needed to be sculpted,
1886
01:20:05,633 --> 01:20:07,468
the gills needed
to be sculpted,
1887
01:20:07,552 --> 01:20:08,761
some of the fins were gone.
1888
01:20:08,845 --> 01:20:10,346
As you can see,
1889
01:20:10,430 --> 01:20:14,142
it's really in fantastic
condition underneath.
1890
01:20:14,851 --> 01:20:17,270
And we had a crew
of about nine people,
1891
01:20:17,353 --> 01:20:19,856
and it took us
about six months.
1892
01:20:20,857 --> 01:20:22,233
So I donated
a lot of the labor
1893
01:20:22,317 --> 01:20:23,943
because I really
wanted to do it.
1894
01:20:24,444 --> 01:20:27,196
And lo and behold,
now it exists again.
1895
01:20:32,660 --> 01:20:34,370
YOUNG SPIELBERG:
When you make a film,
at least when I make a film,
1896
01:20:34,454 --> 01:20:36,039
I have to be passionate
about the subject matter.
1897
01:20:36,122 --> 01:20:37,457
I have to know that
that's all I want to do
1898
01:20:37,540 --> 01:20:38,875
for the next couple of years.
1899
01:20:38,958 --> 01:20:40,418
And I have to know
that's where my lifestyle
1900
01:20:40,501 --> 01:20:41,961
will be two years from now.
1901
01:20:42,045 --> 01:20:43,546
I just think it's
very important to...
1902
01:20:43,629 --> 01:20:46,341
You know, to spend
the time and, you know,
1903
01:20:46,424 --> 01:20:49,260
consider each film kind of
1904
01:20:49,344 --> 01:20:50,887
the beginning, middle
and end of your life.
1905
01:20:51,637 --> 01:20:54,140
SPIELBERG:
I had a real tough time
when I finished the movie,
1906
01:20:54,223 --> 01:20:56,434
and the success
was fantastic,
1907
01:20:56,517 --> 01:20:58,519
but it didn't stop
the nightmares.
1908
01:20:58,603 --> 01:21:01,606
It didn't stop me waking up
in the middle of the night
in a cold sweat,
1909
01:21:01,689 --> 01:21:03,983
where the sheets
would be soaking wet.
1910
01:21:04,067 --> 01:21:07,236
We didn't have the words
"PTSD" in those days,
1911
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:08,821
and I had
consistent nightmares
1912
01:21:08,905 --> 01:21:11,449
about directing Jaws
for years afterwards.
1913
01:21:11,532 --> 01:21:14,577
I was still on the movie,
and the film was never ending.
1914
01:21:15,203 --> 01:21:16,496
When they brought
one of the boats
1915
01:21:16,579 --> 01:21:18,206
all the way back
from Martha's Vineyard
1916
01:21:18,289 --> 01:21:19,916
and shipped the boat,
the Orca,
1917
01:21:19,999 --> 01:21:21,250
to the Universal back lot
1918
01:21:21,334 --> 01:21:23,628
and put it in the water
right next to the Jaws ride.
1919
01:21:23,711 --> 01:21:24,962
(PEOPLE SCREAMING)
1920
01:21:26,339 --> 01:21:28,216
I used to get on
my electric cart
1921
01:21:28,299 --> 01:21:29,759
without telling anybody,
1922
01:21:30,343 --> 01:21:31,803
and I would sneak
behind the trams,
1923
01:21:31,886 --> 01:21:33,137
nobody could see me.
1924
01:21:33,221 --> 01:21:35,390
And I'd just sneak
onboard the boat,
1925
01:21:35,473 --> 01:21:37,725
and I would sit in the cabin
1926
01:21:37,809 --> 01:21:40,311
in that little
leather red booth,
1927
01:21:41,229 --> 01:21:44,482
and I would just sit there
and sometimes cry.
1928
01:21:44,565 --> 01:21:47,402
I had nothing to cry about.
The film was this phenomenon.
1929
01:21:47,485 --> 01:21:50,196
And I'm sitting here
shedding tears
1930
01:21:50,279 --> 01:21:54,117
because I am not able
to divest myself
1931
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:55,451
of the experience.
1932
01:21:55,535 --> 01:21:58,621
The boat helped me
to begin to forget.
1933
01:21:58,704 --> 01:22:02,500
That Orca was
my therapeutic companion
1934
01:22:02,583 --> 01:22:05,795
for several years
after Jaws came out.
1935
01:22:08,506 --> 01:22:10,591
NICOTERO: Jaws
has transcended time
1936
01:22:10,675 --> 01:22:13,970
because it's built
this mythology.
1937
01:22:14,053 --> 01:22:16,681
And aside from the fact
that it's a great movie,
1938
01:22:16,764 --> 01:22:20,393
it's also a unique
cautionary tale
about filmmaking.
1939
01:22:21,853 --> 01:22:27,150
People are still enthralled
with how man slayed the beast.
1940
01:22:27,233 --> 01:22:28,860
MAN: Break it up,
will ya, Chief?
1941
01:22:29,569 --> 01:22:31,237
Daylight's wastin'!
1942
01:22:31,988 --> 01:22:36,993
This was a movie
that taught me that horror
1943
01:22:37,076 --> 01:22:41,789
didn't have to be something
that left me feeling icky.
1944
01:22:43,624 --> 01:22:44,917
You okay?
1945
01:22:45,001 --> 01:22:48,254
MASLIN:
it hasn't lost a minute
in terms of timeliness.
1946
01:22:48,921 --> 01:22:51,674
If anything, it seems fresher
to me now than it did then.
1947
01:22:51,757 --> 01:22:54,802
We're more afraid
of the natural world
than we were.
1948
01:22:55,344 --> 01:22:59,098
And we're more acclimated
to the same kind of corruption
1949
01:22:59,182 --> 01:23:01,142
where politicians
will do anything
1950
01:23:01,225 --> 01:23:03,186
to hide what they
don't want you to know.
1951
01:23:04,812 --> 01:23:05,938
ZEMECKIS: I think
it's fair to say that
1952
01:23:06,022 --> 01:23:07,607
cinema wouldn't be
where it is without Jaws.
1953
01:23:08,691 --> 01:23:12,528
It just supercharged
the language of cinema.
1954
01:23:12,612 --> 01:23:14,071
Hurry it up. He's coming
straight for us.
1955
01:23:14,155 --> 01:23:15,865
Don't screw it up now.
Don't wait for me.
1956
01:23:17,158 --> 01:23:19,035
Jaws moved the bar
in terms of
1957
01:23:19,118 --> 01:23:22,371
audiences and what kind
of thrill they might get.
1958
01:23:25,791 --> 01:23:27,585
GOTTLIEB:
it's only the audience
that makes a hit.
1959
01:23:28,544 --> 01:23:31,047
And after 50 years,
they've been telling us,
"Okay, Jaws is a hit."
1960
01:23:31,130 --> 01:23:32,131
We like this movie.
1961
01:23:33,174 --> 01:23:35,718
It's an endless conversation
you can have about Jaws,
1962
01:23:35,801 --> 01:23:37,887
and all the details
forever seem
1963
01:23:37,970 --> 01:23:39,055
to reveal themselves to me.
1964
01:23:39,138 --> 01:23:41,766
You kind of noticed
something new every time.
1965
01:23:41,849 --> 01:23:44,310
I love that film
can morph into being
1966
01:23:44,393 --> 01:23:45,811
one thing for one generation
1967
01:23:45,895 --> 01:23:48,064
and then another thing
to the next generation.
1968
01:23:48,856 --> 01:23:50,066
One of my favorite lines is...
1969
01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:52,902
Michael! Did you
hear your father?
1970
01:23:52,985 --> 01:23:54,153
Out of the water!
1971
01:23:54,237 --> 01:23:55,238
Now!
1972
01:23:55,321 --> 01:23:56,697
Now!
1973
01:23:56,781 --> 01:23:58,449
I love that scene.
(WHISTLE BLOWS)
1974
01:23:59,659 --> 01:24:03,204
The lesson in cinema for me,
with Steven in particular,
1975
01:24:03,704 --> 01:24:06,666
is the ability
to make things work
1976
01:24:06,749 --> 01:24:08,292
when nothing is working.
1977
01:24:08,918 --> 01:24:11,295
I want the safety boat out
because they can't see
what I'm doing.
1978
01:24:11,379 --> 01:24:12,672
The whole thing
is a complete mess,
1979
01:24:12,755 --> 01:24:14,840
but it ends up being
this symphony
1980
01:24:14,924 --> 01:24:17,093
where everything
just comes together.
1981
01:24:18,052 --> 01:24:19,762
The editing, the music,
the acting,
1982
01:24:19,845 --> 01:24:21,180
the wonderful direction.
1983
01:24:22,014 --> 01:24:24,308
A wise director
understands that
1984
01:24:24,392 --> 01:24:27,228
directing is his
hostage negotiation
with reality,
1985
01:24:27,770 --> 01:24:29,772
and the movie is
as flawless today
1986
01:24:29,855 --> 01:24:31,941
as it will be
100 years from now.
1987
01:24:33,985 --> 01:24:37,655
It's one of those
rare occurrences where
1988
01:24:37,738 --> 01:24:40,992
a generational phenomenon
1989
01:24:41,075 --> 01:24:43,744
turns out to also
be a masterpiece.
1990
01:24:45,913 --> 01:24:47,915
CAMERON: I think certain films
just get a status.
1991
01:24:47,999 --> 01:24:49,000
Quint!
1992
01:24:49,083 --> 01:24:52,336
There have been movies
made since, using CG sharks,
1993
01:24:52,420 --> 01:24:53,546
that aren't nearly as good.
1994
01:24:53,629 --> 01:24:56,757
It was those actors,
in that moment in history,
1995
01:24:56,841 --> 01:24:58,009
with that director,
1996
01:24:58,092 --> 01:25:01,095
and no one ever having seen
anything like that before.
1997
01:25:04,056 --> 01:25:06,058
Some films just
hit that perfection.
1998
01:25:06,142 --> 01:25:09,061
They've become sharks,
they're perfect machines.
1999
01:25:12,690 --> 01:25:16,152
To me, Jaws was
a life-altering experience.
2000
01:25:16,777 --> 01:25:17,778
On the one hand,
2001
01:25:17,862 --> 01:25:20,531
it was a traumatizing
experience for me
2002
01:25:20,615 --> 01:25:23,159
that was mostly
about survival.
2003
01:25:23,242 --> 01:25:24,243
(SIGHS)
2004
01:25:24,327 --> 01:25:25,995
And I think all of us
feel we survived something.
2005
01:25:26,495 --> 01:25:27,496
(LAUGHS)
2006
01:25:27,580 --> 01:25:29,582
Jaws also,
I owe everything to.
2007
01:25:29,665 --> 01:25:31,917
Because of Jaws,
I got final cut,
2008
01:25:32,001 --> 01:25:33,794
and I've had it
for the past 50 years.
2009
01:25:35,588 --> 01:25:37,506
And I just hope
that all the people
2010
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:38,841
that worked on Jaws...
2011
01:25:41,594 --> 01:25:45,473
wore that experience proudly
like a badge of honor.
2012
01:25:48,017 --> 01:25:49,518
And was able
to go through life
2013
01:25:49,602 --> 01:25:52,938
in the glory of the success
that Jaws became.
2014
01:25:54,940 --> 01:25:57,526
To be able to say,
each individually,
2015
01:25:57,610 --> 01:26:00,321
"Hey, I helped
make that movie.
2016
01:26:01,781 --> 01:26:03,199
"I helped tell that story.
2017
01:26:05,785 --> 01:26:07,328
"I share in its success."
2018
01:26:08,954 --> 01:26:10,164
BRODY: I used to
hate the water.
2019
01:26:13,334 --> 01:26:14,543
I can't imagine why.
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