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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,430 With so many pop stars here, it's just like... It's like a sheep dip. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,470 All right. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,680 It's pretty weird, seeing as I don't know anybody and they don't know me. 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,230 This is nice, you know. 5 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:17,790 Haven't done this for a long while. 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,190 It's all right. A lot of memories come flooding back. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,710 Being pushed out the way while people try and get to George. 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,150 And what is it that you've been nominated for today? 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,560 The Idle Award for doing nothing for the last 20 years. 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,320 I-D-L-E. 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,230 In the 1980s, Culture Club's meteoric rise 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,630 made them one of the biggest bands in the world, 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,590 selling over 150 million records. 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,910 The songs and the band have stood the test of time 15 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,110 and are as relevant as they ever were. 16 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,920 Let's take a look at the guys in action. 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,790 # Do you really want to hurt me? 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,030 # Do you really... # But during this time, 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,350 George and drummer Jon Moss were hiding something from the public. 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,030 I fell in love with him. 21 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,750 I fell in love with George. He happened to be a man. 22 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,950 And when their volatile relationship ended in 1986, 23 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:08,350 the band fell apart and George unravelled. 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,750 He literally went from nothing to heroin in about three weeks. 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,070 All previous attempts to reform the band have broken down, 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,710 but now, for the first time in 15 years, 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,400 they're planning to record an album and go on tour. 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,070 We've attempted to do it a few times 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,590 and I felt like it was our last chance if we were going to do it. 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,870 The thing with Culture that's interesting is that, 31 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,590 you know, us without George - nothing. 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,680 And I'm afraid, George, not as great without the band. 33 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,710 There's no Lady Gaga without Culture Club. 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,310 There wasn't even a Madonna without Culture Club. 35 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:44,990 We want to come back and reclaim our legacy. 36 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,600 It's our first big tour for about 15 years. 37 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,630 There's certain anxieties that come with that. 38 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,630 I followed the band over ten months 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,350 as they endeavoured to put old rivalries aside. 40 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,470 But for a band with such a volatile history, 41 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,520 how will they cope coming back together? 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,230 I know what I'm doing. I think there's the problem. 43 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,630 You know, what I want and what Roy, Jon and Mikey want 44 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,160 are entirely different things. 45 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,030 If that means that the rest of the band 46 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,830 think I'm being selfish and difficult, 47 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,360 that's just how it's going to be. 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,350 Well, it's really weird, you know. 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,510 We weren't mates before we started Culture Club. 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,390 We are a band in the very traditional sense of being a band. 51 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,520 You know, we came together to be a band. 52 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,670 Erm, you know, pushing aside the kind of... 53 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,470 sort of relationship things that happened, 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,790 we were a band. That's why we started. 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,960 So... our history with each other is about being a band. 56 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,310 I don't live here, so for me to come over is quite a big deal. 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,270 But to George it's like, "What are you doing that you can't come over?" 58 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,710 I'm like, "Well, I have a life." "Well, what is it?" 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,830 I'm like, "It's my life!" 60 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,040 So... 61 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,350 Hi, Royston. 62 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,800 Push. 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,360 I didn't see you. You're wearing camouflage. Yeah. 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,470 I'm ready for battle, 65 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,360 as I said earlier. 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,950 Oh, my God. If it isn't Mikey Craig! 67 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,270 Come in, push the gate. 68 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,070 I was about to start... How are you? 69 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,480 Yeah, good. How are you? Good. Nice to see you. 70 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,550 Wrapping his own parcels these days. 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,590 Yeah, no. This is my Vitamix. You know what it is, Vitamix? 72 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,230 I love my Vitamix. I live by my Vitamix. This broke. 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,550 It spins so fast. 74 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,150 Soup setting, it actually sort of half cooks and makes a soup 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,670 when you put the things in there. 76 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,950 Put Jon Moss in there, no problem. Put Jon Moss in there. Yeah. 77 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,240 A Jon Moss smoothie. 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,920 Could he be any more smooth? 79 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,990 How nice. Oh, hello! God. 80 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,280 Shut up! Hello, everyone. 81 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,310 Erm... Do you want to play it, Roy? 82 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,120 Getting Old. 83 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:25,670 # Getting old 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,190 # Getting old... # 85 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,990 'Myself and Roy are probably the main songwriters.' 86 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,550 So no, I mean, I think... 87 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,990 Roy might think he's in charge! 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,950 I might think I'm in charge too, but I don't think any of us are really. 89 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,550 Let's just move on and do something else anyway. 90 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:44,710 Remember that? 91 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Just take the vibe of those early Destiny's Child records. 92 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,550 "Question - do-dee-doo-dee-doo about..." 93 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,150 But just the groove on that, I thought was really kind of cool. 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,070 You know, that swinging thing. Are you saying we're in RnB? 95 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,350 You deny your soul voice? Absolutely not. OK. 96 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,760 OK. 97 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,760 That sounds like Neil Young to me now. 98 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,630 Don't start writing melodies. Please. 99 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,590 That's another drama! 100 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:15,590 You could do like 101 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,430 an artist thing about... 102 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,670 Yes. 103 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,150 You know? Don't, don't fucking do that! 104 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,470 So aggravating, man. No, no, no. I mean... 105 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,430 No, we don't start writing things... Well, why not? I'm a writer! 106 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,110 Well, then write for someone else! I'm writing with you! 107 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,110 You don't have a monopoly on melodies here. 108 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,310 We need to sort that out, 109 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,790 because I'm not singing other people's melodies, 110 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,190 so either get over it, or... George, we'll write together. 111 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,830 Yeah, I write melodies, you write the music. That's how it works. 112 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:46,430 Shout as loud as you like, it's not going to make a difference. 113 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,470 You do shout, actually, you raised your voice. 114 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,870 You raised your voice, no-one took suggestions, ever. 115 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,670 Don't raise your voice to me like that. I wasn't... Well, you were... 116 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,750 I got excited about the music. 117 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,510 No, you got excited about trying to tell me what to do. 118 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,040 Not a good idea. 119 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,230 Doing a band, 120 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,270 it's so much more complicated than just being a solo artist. 121 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:12,030 'We were sent a poster yesterday for the tour and I was like, 122 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,550 ' "I'll approve it" and you think, ' 123 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,750 "Oh, I should show everyone else." But... 124 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,630 it gets really complicated. Democracy, it's a hard one. 125 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:21,950 Can we do this? 126 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,990 At the end, I have to do this thing where I say, 127 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,750 "See you in December," so don't speak at the end, OK? All right. 128 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,270 You need to go out for a minute so you're not in it. 129 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:30,630 Can you take that camera? 130 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,670 No, no, don't go outside, you've got to be in it. I'm back! OK. 131 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,280 Fucking hell. Ah... 132 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,110 # Karma karma karma Karma karma chameleon 133 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,830 # You come and go... # 134 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:47,230 You... You have to say when you want us to come in, you see. 135 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,680 Right away, once he does his thing, then I'll come in and you... 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,230 One, two, three, four! 137 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,070 # Karma karma karma Karma karma chameleon 138 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,670 ALL: # You come and go 139 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,310 # You come and go 140 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,750 # Loving would be easy if your Colours were like my dream 141 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,390 # Red gold and green 142 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,990 # Red gold and green... # 143 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,320 See you in December. 144 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,230 Hey, they won't notice. Work here is done. 145 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,590 Be quiet. Shut up, Jon. No, I will not shut up. Shut the fuck up, Jon. 146 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,040 No. Fucking hell. 147 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,830 Yes, it was OK, it was as I expected today, really. 148 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,750 George was intolerant, as usual. So am I, probably, so that's fine. 149 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,830 You know, nothing's changed really, so... 150 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,510 Well, I'm sorry, but he doesn't shut up, it's like fucking... 151 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,870 It's like an insane person. 152 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:41,870 I'm finding it very difficult 153 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,990 and that's just one day in. 154 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,910 I'm really, I've just had to spray chakra spray on myself... 155 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,440 I was like, "God, can you leave?" 156 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,070 So, when you are you next meeting up? 157 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,600 It will be in Spain on Monday, or later. 158 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,030 NEWSREADER: Boy George doesn't like flying 159 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,350 and finds ways to amuse himself. 160 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,910 Hello there. 161 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,270 Melbourne Airport erupted in a frenzy as the pop idol arrived. 162 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,310 Hundreds of his teenage fans screamed, wept, 163 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,560 waved and yelled in an uncontrollable burst of emotion. 164 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,870 But for airport officials it meant security problems. 165 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,310 For the press and media, 166 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,790 some of those colourful comments that always make the headlines. 167 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,870 Do you ever feel trapped by your image? 168 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,630 No! 169 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,750 The waiting Mercedes didn't whisk away the superstar. 170 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,910 Boy George had made a special request 171 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,000 to travel in a minibus as one of the band. 172 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,720 About 10,000 were jam-packed between the store's glass walls... 173 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,150 And their thrilled greeting showed 174 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,640 how much the club stopover was appreciated. 175 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,670 How embarrassing. 176 00:09:02,680 --> 00:09:05,150 And you met Boy George too and said he was a really nice guy. 177 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,630 Very intelligent, very considerate fellow, actually. 178 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,320 That's good. Appearances aren't everything, are they? 179 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,830 Hi, we're in Grenada. 180 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,710 Granada. I can't believe you brought me to here. 181 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,390 Come in to mi casa. 182 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,390 Hello. 183 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,030 Do you want Reggie in here or do you want Jonny? 184 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,790 No! Are you crazy? I don't want Jonny anywhere near me. 185 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,110 Because this is your room, OK? Lots of people sleep in here? 186 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,550 It can be a spare bedroom but it's empty at the moment. 187 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:41,950 Keep it away from Mickey. So it's like you've got a suite. 188 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,710 Don't put Jon, put Ritchie there, it's fine. Put Ritchie there. 189 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,800 I think Ritchie likes solitude. Jon just likes talking. Yes. 190 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:52,550 Fucking ha-ha. 191 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:55,070 Do you guys want to get out? Fucking hell. 192 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,910 You guys have got to get out. Thank you. 193 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,990 Oh, my God. Crazy. Loco. Ritchie, move back. 194 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,950 This is insane! 195 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,750 Oh, my God! 196 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,830 Your entrance was very LA, I have to say. 197 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:06,830 [EXAGGERATED ACCENT] 198 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,430 Oh, my gawd! Oh, my gawd! 199 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,030 Good cherry as well. Mm. 200 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,830 I've already got my own room. 201 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,150 Oh, you've got the big, golden suite. No, it's fine. 202 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,230 Nothing special. 203 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,910 You know. 204 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,430 Oh, that's good. 205 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,910 So where are the bedrooms then? 206 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:20,910 You ain't got one, 207 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,790 you've got to sleep up here. 208 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,390 Can I have the hobbit room? 209 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,310 Or has somebody already taken it? 210 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,830 That's what George wanted. 211 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,870 That's cute, isn't it? I like that. 212 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,910 This is the big round hobbit room. Yeah. It's a really good acoustic. 213 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,710 Mm. Why was people in my room? Yes. 214 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,270 Why was people in my grill? Very nice. OK, and... 215 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,240 Right, come on and I'll show you the studio and the other rooms. Ah. 216 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,830 I was going to put you and Jon in the guesthouse. 217 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,440 A bit spooky out here. 218 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,600 Hope you've got your flashlight out. 219 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,310 Mm. Did anyone show you how to get here? 220 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,950 I will stay here, yes? Sure. 221 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,710 'Yes, well...' 222 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:10,160 it's not bad. Fine, it's lovely. It will do. 223 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,150 # Nam-myoho-renge-kyo 224 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,870 # Nam-myoho-renge-kyo 225 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,550 # Nam-myoho-renge-kyo 226 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:29,950 # Nam-myoho-renge-kyo 227 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,080 # Nam-myoho-renge-kyo... # 228 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,190 Just to warn you, I haven't quite woke up yet. 229 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,870 I've been up for a while, but... 230 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,110 Also, it's quite a lot of reverb with my voice, so... 231 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:44,790 Not a floppy ring, dear. 232 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,200 Floppy. 233 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,870 # It can't be easy Hell you said can't 234 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,470 # If you'd be a different man... 235 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,630 # Yeah. # 236 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,160 Yes, that's the lyric. 237 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,230 So I'm not needed for a minute, right? 238 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,320 Come back tomorrow. 239 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:11,990 # If you'd be a different man... 240 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,800 # Yeah. # 241 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,150 We've just been picking cherries. 242 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,750 Very glamorous, it's very, what's it called? The Good Life. 243 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,030 You actually picked those? 244 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,270 Sort of. 245 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,190 She wanted to, basically, we went to this place 246 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,110 where you CAN pick cherries, let's rephrase, 247 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,510 and she wanted to pick cherries 248 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,550 and I was like, "Love, I've got an album to make, 249 00:12:42,560 --> 00:12:44,990 "they've picked them already, how nice of them. 250 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,750 I'll just go to the studio and see what's going on. 251 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,190 Do you want to be the bearer of cherries? 252 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,990 Shall I bring them? Make me look organic and loving. Yes. 253 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,230 Like I care. Yes. 254 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,560 I do, obviously. 255 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:02,990 # If you'll be a different man! # 256 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,640 The 1A sounded good. 257 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,790 It's a bit low, Michael, what are you trying to do? 258 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,070 We want to generate a kick. I know we're old, but... 259 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,080 Is this what you were doing last night? Yes. 260 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,070 Very dancey. 261 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,470 # Ooh... 262 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,630 # Ooh... 263 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,320 # Ooh... 264 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,070 # Ooh... 265 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,470 # I'm never gonna catch out The one you love 266 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,590 # Like a black cat Buddha 267 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,710 # Like a slide show 268 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,310 # It can't be easy Hell you said it can't 269 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,870 # If you'd be a different man... 270 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,510 Different man! 271 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,390 # It can't be easy Hell you said it can't 272 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,150 # If you'd be a better man 273 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,030 Different man! 274 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,750 No! Better. It's not better! 275 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,710 Stop. 276 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,190 No, if you'd be a different man, it's not better man. 277 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,430 Did you once say? No, never. Yes, he's right. All right. 278 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,310 If you'd be a different man - don't change my lyrics. Did I do that? 279 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,910 Hello. If you'd be a different man, 280 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,630 not better man. OK, we'll do it again. 281 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,230 Well, listen, you know what it is. 282 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,590 See how calm I've remained? What about..? 283 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,470 We could do it again, or leave it as an idea. No, no. It's different man. 284 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,950 Different man - don't change my lyrics. 285 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,790 This is what's going to happen when I go out to the shops, 286 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,710 you'll change my lyrics. Not going to work. It's only little ideas. 287 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,950 Yes, but, different, don't change the lyrics, OK? Yes, I missed that. 288 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,990 Maybe we just thought... 289 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,870 You know what thought did? Wet the bed and thought it was sweating. 290 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,040 My mum used to say. 291 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,590 OK. 292 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,030 In an Irish accent. 293 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:40,030 [IRISH ACCENT:] 294 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:40,030 Wet the bed 295 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,710 and thought it was sweating. 296 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,480 Don't make faces about my mum! Go on. Nice try. 297 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,470 Listen, you know, there's going to be rows, cos, you know, 298 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,070 the nature of trying to have a democracy is so hard. 299 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,110 # Daddy-o... 300 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,830 # Daddy-o... # 301 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,720 You see, there's a key change. Do you like it or not? Like that? 302 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,070 Should he do the key change there? Yes. 303 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,430 If it turns out when we listen to the whole song back 304 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,870 that it sounds too soon - it might do - we'll change it, you know. 305 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,310 That's it, Roy, that kind of attitude, not, like, no. 306 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,470 One, two, three, four... 307 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,190 'The kind of rule is that the writer of the lyrics 308 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,830 'and the manager gets 50%, which is what I'm entitled to, 309 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,230 'but we'll have a debate about that, I'm sure.' 310 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,150 But I'm not sure how flexible I'm going to be. 311 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,590 'We just have to be fair. 312 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,830 'And if somebody's written most of a song, 313 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,030 'why should they give it away? You know, 314 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,990 'I am a generous person, but, you know, there's a limit.' 315 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,510 Back in the day, we did everything 25%. 316 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,910 That ain't going to happen now. 317 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,830 Shall we record it? Hold-up, one then? Oh, nice. 318 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,680 Make a note to yourself, get rid of this later. We did it in D before. 319 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,710 Can we have a shot of Roy crying at the end on a wheelchair? 320 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,790 That's nice. 321 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,200 With a keyboard on his lap? 322 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,510 Naked? 323 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:12,030 George, he still has the authority, he's still the queen, 324 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,080 he's still the queen bee, although he's not taken so seriously now. 325 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,030 Don't know about you, I'm about to slip into something more comfortable, like a coma. Fucking hell. 326 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,030 Shove that on. Yeah... Oh, yeah... Nice with some strings... Yeah, exactly. 327 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,710 You're right up his arse. 328 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,750 Think Beatles, man. Think Beatles. It's three Beatles. 329 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,190 OK. All right, then. You've won me over! 330 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,800 Shall we record it? 331 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,990 They made the announcement today about the tour, 15 dates in the UK. 332 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,400 Big venues. 333 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,270 Yes, like the O2, you know. Yeah, but, you know... 334 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,870 we're a big band. 335 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,310 There we go. 336 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,350 Somebody's saying they've booked their tickets for Leeds. 337 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,510 Wow, really cool. 338 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,080 That's 12 we've sold. 339 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:02,870 My bags are packed. 340 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,750 Away we go. 341 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,240 Well, I'm busy that night, I can't do that one. 342 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,310 When it all kicked off, I was about 22, yeah. 343 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,030 That's quite a lot to take on board. 344 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,870 It is, but it doesn't mean anything now. Like, 345 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,630 you know when you go on TV shows, they introduce you, 346 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,590 they say, "You sold 150 million records," and I think, 347 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,910 "What does it matter?" Now is all that matters. 348 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,800 You know. Oh, forget it. 349 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,070 The first single we put out did nothing. 350 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,270 The second one did nothing, 351 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,670 the third one we started to pay for the promotion ourselves, didn't we? 352 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,550 Which is Do You Really and then it kicked off. Jonny had a plan. 353 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,230 Yeah, Jonny did have a plan. 354 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,670 Do a few gigs, Top Of The Pops, big hit record, lovely, 355 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,830 we'll go on tour. Sounds good to me, yes! 356 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,950 Bad drug habits, get divorced. 357 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,310 End up making a record. 358 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,350 You left that bit out. You left that bit out. 359 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:04,510 I left it out, I wasn't so sure about that. 360 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,310 Jon and George, they were the powerhouse within the band. 361 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,230 They kind of led the band. 362 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,310 And they were very strong. 363 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,750 The two of them. Together. 364 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,470 And because they were together it made it difficult for us 365 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,280 to input things at times. 366 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,830 But, um... 367 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,950 I'm not sure, I don't know 368 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,190 if I want to talk about their relationship so much, 369 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,080 because, cos Jon's got... 370 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,910 ..kids now. 371 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:33,240 I fell in love with him. 372 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,910 Just fell in love with him. 373 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,990 I fell in love with George, he happened to be a man. 374 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,990 We were instantly attracted to each other. 375 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,190 Not sexually, it was like a childish crush, it was very exciting. 376 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,550 You know, very exciting, you know. 377 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,390 It was a little weird being in the band with that secret, 378 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,230 I've got to be honest. 379 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,350 I mean, it was no secret, 380 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:58,590 our relationship, between my friends or anything like that, 381 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,750 but I was thinking the other day how things have changed so much. 382 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,790 When Culture Club started there wasn't the liberalism there is now, 383 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,950 there was a lot of queer-bashing, you know, 384 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,910 and it was not cool. 385 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,600 People didn't want to know. 386 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,110 I grew up just wanting to be in a band and... 387 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:15,990 have fun. 388 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,630 All the girls backstage and all the things that go with it, 389 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,920 I ended up in a fucking homosexual drama. 390 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,750 Jon and I did not have a normal relationship. 391 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,190 We weren't nice to each other. 392 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,870 We didn't go out for meals. 393 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,350 I mean their relationship wasn't a problem, the fighting was a problem. 394 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:36,550 You know? 395 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,710 Stuff all over the place, 396 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,430 literally hitting each other and screaming and shouting. 397 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,190 The others were going, "Oh, I can't take this any more." 398 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,630 One couldn't help feeling that George's mood 399 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,750 was determined by how he was getting on with Jon. 400 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,950 It was a soap opera, you know. 401 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,110 A really bad one that doesn't get aired after three series. 402 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:55,640 That's what it was like. 403 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,550 I'm just doing it as a little experiment. 404 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,990 I used to do this every day - what you talking about? 405 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,550 I quite liked it when it was a bit more dense. 406 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,270 Maybe needs something here. Let Christine... Like a crystal, or something there. 407 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,560 She's eccentric. 408 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,110 And, also, when you've worn as much make-up as we have, 409 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:21,430 you have to find new ways of putting it on. 410 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,270 No, I don't like that. It's ridiculous! 411 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,790 No, the reason you don't like it is cos it hasn't got the gold leaf that side. 412 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,470 No, I don't like it, because I jus... No. I just don't like it. 413 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,070 Think it's too much. No, it's good! 414 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,520 No, Christine, it's not good. 415 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:36,430 Wonder if the band'll like it. Probably not. 416 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,750 We could go and ask their opinion. Yeah, shall I? Yeah. 417 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,190 Shall I? Yeah, go on. 418 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,990 "Hey, look, I'm thinking this is..." Actually, yeah, let's do it. 419 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,190 I'm sure it's going to go down really well. 420 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,720 Guys! 421 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,310 Thought we could use a new look for the band. Wow! 422 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,270 Nose-guards. Lovely. 423 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,550 Can you do the original melody on the B sessions for us in a minute? 424 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,230 I'm not going to do it now. 425 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,430 I've got, like, things on my face. 426 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,470 Can we just play Planningtorock? 427 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,110 So, great - the make-up girl arrives and we get no more vocals, 428 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:10,350 cos George now has things on his face! Priorities have changed. 429 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:11,920 Priorities have changed. 430 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,550 Jon. Yes. 431 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,790 Shall we pull the screens back and show them we're really in Shepperton? 432 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,270 Yes. Blue screens. Blue screens. 433 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,470 One more for safety. All right, good. E-mail that to me. 434 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:26,990 Where's George? 435 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,960 Where's his communal dining stuff? Where is he? 436 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,920 L'chaim, everyone. L'chaim. 437 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,190 Go and eat your dinner elsewhere, 438 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,030 you're ruining this perfect shot of Boy George. 439 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,710 There's nothing perfect about this scene. 440 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,230 It's like something from a Fellini movie gone wrong. 441 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,550 Like Fellini with ketchup. 442 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,230 You say tomay-to... 443 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,110 Do you say migraine or mee-graine? 444 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:59,670 That lovely moment when people aren't speaking because their mouths are full. 445 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,190 Do you say aluminium or alumin-um? Then they start again. 446 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,870 Aluminium! It's got an "I" in it. 447 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,910 Did we have nicknames? 448 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,990 Joan Moist. 449 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,710 Rowenna Hay. Rowenna Hay?! 450 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,270 Joan Moist, Rowenna Hay and Michaela Craig. 451 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,150 Not very imaginative! Got to come up with a better one than that. 452 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,710 Oh, she's getting all bitchy. Oh, fuck off! 453 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,350 She's getting all bitchy. 454 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:23,190 What was your nickname, George? 455 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,630 Gina. Georgina. Gina. 456 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,550 George is a nice bunch of guys. 457 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,550 Excuse me, Jon Moss. 458 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,710 I'm a nice bunch of guys? 459 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,400 A nice bunch of guys! 460 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,640 We were the only band with two singers - George and Georgina. 461 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,470 And we've got a musical director person 462 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,590 who's like Stalin and Pol Pot rolled into one. 463 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,870 No, you. Oh! 464 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,830 Me and Roy get on very well, actually. Considering. 465 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,470 Don't we? Yeah. Absolutely. 466 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,230 I've been to his house. Blimey. 467 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,470 You hadn't been to Jon's house, though. No, or Mikey's. 468 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,670 Last time I went into your house I had to go through the garage. 469 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,750 In a Cortina. Yeah, you did. That's right. 470 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,390 He drove his car into your house? 471 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,470 Yes, a lime green Cortina. I remember. 472 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,830 He then got attacked by a very small hammer. 473 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,910 It sounds like a country song - 474 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,640 # I drove my car into your garage... # 475 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,110 It was a sort of gay mugging. 476 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:25,760 A tiny little hammer - "Fuck off!" 477 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:30,470 When you want to have a sensible conversation, I'll come back. 478 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:31,910 Are you going, George? 479 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,830 Hang on, wasn't he the one who just pulled that conversation up? 480 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,550 He brought up going to Jon's house, 481 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,550 and he brought up feelings, and he left. 482 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,630 What? Mikey? 483 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,630 No, George brought up the conv... No, I was actually talking. 484 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,910 No, George brought it up about going to your house. 485 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,590 Coming to your house. Yes. 486 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,990 And then he didn't like it, and he left. 487 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,830 Do you like to keep a bit of distance? 488 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,390 Yeah, I like being separate. I'm an outsider. 489 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,110 When I'm dressed up, it seems to bother them. 490 00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,510 I don't know. Do they react differently to you? Yeah. 491 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,670 Well, people do act different to you when you're dressed up, anyway. 492 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,990 People do. But you don't expect people that you know to, but they do. 493 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,590 It's kind of, "Who's she think she is?!" 494 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,830 Jon did say to me tonight, "Why are you dressed up?" 495 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,550 Like there has to be a reason! 496 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,870 It was all right. It wasn't about me, that, anyway. 497 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,470 Everyone's having such a drama about it. "Oh, George's... 498 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,990 "You really pissed George off." Didn't fucking piss... 499 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,390 George just pissed off. Nothing to do with me. Yeah. 500 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,790 Basically, I'm here to work. 501 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,680 I'm not here to make friends or have dinner or play card games or any of that shit. 502 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,630 I don't know... It's so weird, this band. 503 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,430 By the time the documentary'll come, 504 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,550 we'll probably have fallen out again. 505 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,990 They might not even air it! 506 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,350 Better come out quickly, I'm telling you. 507 00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,390 There's only a small window with us, 508 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,680 they you have to wait another 12 years. 509 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,830 In a situation like this, 510 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,070 where you're in a beautiful place but you're also quite trapped... 511 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,310 I like to go out and have a coffee and walk around... 512 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,350 I like to be... a bit freer. 513 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:05,310 So it's slightly difficult for me to be here. 514 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,760 But, you know, we'll get round it. 515 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,910 Roy's acting... Tonight we are men! Real Madrid! 516 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,000 Roy's acting - he's gay and doesn't like football. Athletico! 517 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,680 Bueno, bueno! 518 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,350 Oh, fuck it, I'm so pissed! What? Hello. 519 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,350 Hello. So, you've got an e-mail today. 520 00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:36,790 Yeah, I just got an e-mail from Peter Katsis, our manager. 521 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,310 And the e-mail says, "Hi, guys. These figures look fantastic. 522 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,710 "Apparently, we've sold 18,000 tickets..." 523 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,230 In the first day. In the first day. Which is amazing. 524 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,870 Excellent. Yeah. 525 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,030 Absolutely amazing. 526 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,030 'It's good fun doing this.' 527 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,550 'I thought it was just me. I could not sleep the night before we came.' 528 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,190 I was really anxious about who was going to feed the goldfish, 529 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,990 and my dog and my kids and... You know. All that crap. 530 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,470 But really it was anxiety about "Where am I going? 531 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,790 "What's it going to be like? 532 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,910 "Is it going to be comfortable," you know? 533 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,000 Did I remember my hand cream. Sort of. You know. 534 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,510 If you're somewhere like this 535 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,590 and someone's really getting on your nerves, and it's really bad. 536 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,070 And when you're older you're... "I don't need to do this. 537 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,520 "I don't need to put up with this." 538 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,630 It's a wedding. What is it? I think it's a wedding. 539 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,070 But, I mean, is there something else 540 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,920 you need to get out of the trunk, darling? 541 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,710 Look at the other one's legs, man! 542 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,070 Pretty girls, Jesus! That's all I need. 543 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,150 Look at this little Renault. Which little Renault? This one right here. 544 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,750 Fucking crap, mate. I had one of those in Spain, awful. 545 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,390 It's not. It's a cool little car. 546 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,590 Yes, but it doesn't drive very well. You're joking. Football and cars. 547 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,800 How pathetic is that? No, and women! 548 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,710 I'm not sure about this wind. 549 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,830 Have you arranged for this wind just to annoy me? 550 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,390 What about your face? You been in a punch-up? 551 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,360 I've had a bit of a punch-up, yeah. With a clown. 552 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,670 The word styling, when you're over 50, 553 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,600 can wreak fear in your soul. 554 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,030 But it's kind of a pre-requisite, isn't it? Being a pop star. 555 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,710 Yeah, but you're not a pop star, at our age, are you? 556 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,430 Well, I don't know... 557 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,070 No, it's a prerequisite, but... 558 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,590 I think the idea at our age 559 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,830 is not to LOOK like you've been styled, isn't it? 560 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,600 Hm. You know? I guess. Do you know what I mean? Mm. 561 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,990 Not an ageing Burton dummy, you know what I mean? 562 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,510 Glasses on or off? 563 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:46,950 Off. Off. 564 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,790 People want to see your face. 565 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,950 Do you want to go right back to the wall? 566 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,280 I'd like to go back to London. 567 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,030 Get on with it, Dean. You're dragging this out. 568 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,870 Lovely. If you're kind of quite using this space... 569 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,870 That's quite nice. That feels good. 570 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,870 That's it. Turn that way, Jon. 571 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,070 Don't fart on me. 572 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,310 That's my glasses, man. 573 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,990 Go on, Jon, turn around. 574 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,440 I'm standing like this, stop it. 575 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,840 This is going well, then! 576 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,590 If it doesn't stop in a minute, I'll just go. 577 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,110 Hello, mate. Can I be in the photo? 578 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,190 Jon, concentrate on the picture, mate. 579 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,150 I am concentrating on the photo, George. Lovely. One, two, three... 580 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,270 And shall we do a kind of...? No, no, no. 581 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,950 Fuck all that. 582 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,430 Flies are undone, Mikey. 583 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,880 Flies undone, Mikey. 584 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,040 If you're talking, the picture will look shit. 585 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,200 Been amazing. Thanks. 586 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,360 No, George...! He's not finished. Not finished. 587 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,160 I need a break from them. 588 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,630 Some of Jon's behaviour... I just thought, "Come on, man!" 589 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,390 You know, "You're nearly 60. 590 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,910 "Stop being an idiot. Let's just do this. 591 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,710 "We're taking this to the world stage. Be classy." 592 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,510 'It's just who he is. And I can only take so much of it.' 593 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,950 I feel that we hit the wall two days ago. 594 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,270 And it has been very odd. 595 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,510 Like, you said it was a Noel Coward day the other day. 596 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:17,950 Which it was, really. 597 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,750 People were sitting on the balcony, smoking cigarettes and... 598 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,950 It was arch, I think is the word. Yeah, arch. 599 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,590 People just sort of not really 600 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,720 knowing what to do when we're all together. 601 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,190 See you in London. 602 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,400 Safe journey. Take care. Bye-bye. 603 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:06,800 Eats! 604 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,510 The glorious city of London. 605 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,190 I like this side. Yeah, yeah, yeah... 606 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,830 Did we go to a party here in a penthouse, once? Probably. 607 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,070 Did you have a friend who lived in there? 608 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,750 There were many parties in many penthouses in the '80s. 609 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,760 The whole of the '80s was a party in a penthouse. 610 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,920 Concentration! 611 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,430 That's super. 612 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,870 Lovely! 613 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,430 My worst memories of Culture Club were photo sessions 614 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,990 and video shoots. 615 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,630 So this, for me, was quite a little... 616 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,190 And they were all his fucking fault! 617 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,750 It was all my fucking fault. 618 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,790 Are you uncomfortable, generally, in these situations? I have been. 619 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,070 Not your natural environment, is it? No, it's not. 620 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,870 George thrives here. His mother hen comes out. 621 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,870 Mother hen?! No... But you do, though. 622 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,830 No, no, my Ziggy Stardust comes out, not my fucking Mother Goose. 623 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,190 Get it right! 624 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,030 Whatever it is that makes him get up front, makes him dress up - 625 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,590 it's the thing that shines here. 626 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,430 Meanwhile, we make-a the music, yeah? 627 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,430 We make the music. 628 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,790 On your own, of course, yeah. SO deluded! 629 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,110 He comes up with a few words, so he's a bit of a genius... 630 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,590 See you in fucking court! 631 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,950 Great. 632 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,990 Sunny's here! 633 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,870 Oh, Sunny! Hi, Sunny! 634 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,270 You're hot. You must be really hot. 635 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,430 How's it been today seeing your dad all dressed up? 636 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,550 Yeah, he looks great! It's really exciting. 637 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,990 He looks really amazing. 638 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,550 It makes me really happy. 639 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,990 It was crazy growing up, like, you know, 640 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,470 in the rock and roll lifestyle that I grew up in. 641 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,350 Kind of, like, no supervision 642 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,390 and pretty much madness from age 14 onwards. 643 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,240 It was just growing up in, like, pretty much chaos. 644 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,870 We used to party together and... 645 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,550 Yeah, it is kind of like we were just buddies for a long time. 646 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,030 But he's doing great now. 647 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,830 And I'm doing all right, now, so now it's really good. 648 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,470 He's a grandpa now. 649 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,550 Makes me really happy when I see them play music 650 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,950 and making music and he's in his element. 651 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,800 I love it. It's great. 652 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,110 Fame does weird things. 653 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,000 Makes people very weird. 654 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,910 I challenge anyone for it not to. 655 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,750 REPORTER: 'As expected, Culture Club were besieged by their fans 656 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,070 'outside the hotel and besieged by the press photographers inside.' 657 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,910 It was crazy. 658 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,070 We couldn't get out of theatres sometimes. 659 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,550 Very scary stuff. 660 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,590 And you become isolated, 661 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,310 and when you become isolated you lose touch with reality and 662 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,110 when you lose touch with reality, 663 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,790 then of course it changed you. 664 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,870 It took me a long while to come to terms with that, 665 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,470 and move on from that in my life, to be honest. 666 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,240 MC: The winner for the Best British Group... Culture Club! 667 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,510 It had mixed blessings being successful, so, yeah... 668 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,280 The highs are high and the lows were really low. 669 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,030 It was right about the time that we were asked to do Live Aid 670 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,960 we noticed that George was not making proper decisions. 671 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,670 Which led to us not doing Live Aid in the end. 672 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,310 And it was one of the things that hurt the most about the band. 673 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,350 We hadn't... not worked for many years, 674 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,190 and I think everyone had just had enough. 675 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,270 That's when we noticed that George was beginning to fall apart. 676 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,880 Beginning to... 677 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,950 Well, experiment with drugs, I guess. 678 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,550 Well, it was funny, 679 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,310 he literally went from nothing to heroin in about three weeks. 680 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,150 Seeing George descend into heroin addiction was probably... 681 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,670 I mean, it was horrible. 682 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,830 It was absolutely horrible. 683 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,630 Horrible. 684 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,470 George O'Dowd was greeted by scores of squealing fans 685 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,750 as he arrived to face the magistrate - 686 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,670 and the music, as well. 687 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,670 He was found guilty of possession of heroin, 688 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,840 and was fined £250, about $375 in US money. 689 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,310 When he came out of the courtroom, 690 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,270 he told his fans he was sorry, 691 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,390 and he urged them to learn from what happened to him. 692 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,070 That made me... I was off. 693 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,510 I just, you know, I couldn't... care about the band. 694 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,990 "You can't do it," you know. "The band'll break up!" 695 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,470 Fuck it, I don't care. I don't want to be around this. 696 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,270 I just did not want to be around that. 697 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,990 Those couple of years after the band, 698 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,470 and watching all that shit in the papers about George. 699 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,190 Kind of watching our legacy be destroyed in public, really... 700 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,230 It was kind of a low point for me. 701 00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:29,270 After you'd stopped working for Culture Club, 702 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,230 what have you done in the interim? Oh, God. 703 00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:33,750 Writing songs for a while, 704 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,110 producing for a while, 705 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,350 then I got into doing music for commercials 706 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,710 then into doing TV stuff... 707 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:40,510 then I got into becoming 708 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,240 an international playboy. 709 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,470 That didn't go very well. 710 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,350 And then, erm... Just madness. 711 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,720 Most of the time, really, I've been, erm... being Mr Dad. 712 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,710 WOMAN: Ciao! Morning! 713 00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:59,230 Ciao, Paco! How was the game yesterday? 714 00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:00,750 It was good. It was... 715 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,110 We got worked. What was the score? 716 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,550 We lost by 4-1 but two of their goals were pure jam. 717 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,110 What about your dad going on tour? 718 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,350 Are you looking forward to seeing him on stage? 719 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,110 Um, obviously it's nice that he's going back on tour, 720 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,910 but I'm not really that excited 721 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,270 about him on stage and things like that. 722 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,110 He's just my dad, he takes me to and from matches, so... 723 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,430 It's more my teachers and my mates and their parents, kind of thing, 724 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,670 that are quite excited and come up to me, but, 725 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,270 I don't... I kind of missed that excitement, really, yeah. 726 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,310 All right, and make sure this documentary 727 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,350 is the start of something, instead of... you know. 728 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,190 You know what I'm saying, Dad? 729 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,430 Cos you guys do this stuff every now and then 730 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,070 and I want to make sure you follow this through. Right. 731 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,830 Well put! Thank you. 732 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,590 All right, my darling. 733 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,630 Come on. We're going to go now. 734 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,870 Love you. See you later, Paco. Ciao amore. Ciao, amore. 735 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,800 I'll take it, I'll take it, I'll take it. 736 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,670 The first time I ever heard house music was in the Paradise Garage, 737 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,950 and I was actually making 738 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,950 an album with Culture Club and it was really overproduced, 739 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,710 and I went to this club on the weekend and heard this amazing music 740 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:11,590 and was like, "Oh, my God, what we're doing's so wrong." 741 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,470 But it was too late, we were in the middle of it. 742 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,720 And that record was a record called... 743 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:19,710 This weekend I've got a gig in London on Friday 744 00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:21,790 and then I've got a gig in Rimini on Saturday. 745 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,750 Then I go to Toronto, Provence, Ibiza... 746 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,150 But all that travelling, does that in some way... 747 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,470 Is that at the expense of other things in your life? 748 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,880 You mean like sex? 749 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,310 Dental appointments. 750 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,150 But you're not at home a lot, so in terms of forging relationships 751 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,550 and things like this, do you think it gets in the way? 752 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,190 I was talking about this the other day, 753 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,630 that I used to have such a kind of... 754 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,670 So much energy for the chase, 755 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,030 you know, like, "Oh, you know, what's your star sign?" 756 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,790 "Oh, I feel like we've met before." Yawn. 757 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,310 You know, all that palaver - now I just can't be bothered. 758 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,680 You know, I don't feel like I'm missing anything. 759 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,750 OK, let's go. 760 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,270 Can we go somewhere other than this lobby? Cos it's, like, non-stop. 761 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,710 For some reason, I don't know, I think people engage 762 00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,470 very differently with famous people now. 763 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,870 It's weird now. If people know who you are 764 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,350 they'll come up and ask for a selfie or an autograph. 765 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,270 If you're a reality star or a pop star or a footballer, 766 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,990 it's like, "Oh, you know, you're famous, can I take a picture?" 767 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,320 It's not about you, it's about them. 768 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,430 Don't be frightened. Are we ready? 769 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,070 It's a joyous song. 770 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,040 It's a song about a chameleon. 771 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,320 One, two, one, two, three, four. 772 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,470 # There's a love in your eyes... # 773 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,230 Have you seen your dad play before? 774 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,630 Yeah, when I was about five, Albert Hall. 775 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,560 He spent his whole life saying, "What does my dad do?", poor thing. 776 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,470 Playing with little bands and... All my kids are the same, 777 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,390 that's what's going to be so good about this. 778 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,830 By the time I got married and had my kids we'd stopped, 779 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,950 we'd stopped stopping. 780 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,350 So this is really good, because when you actually see it, 781 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,510 like the O2 or something, then it all makes sense. 782 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,070 And I put him off the business forever, which is a good thing. 783 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,320 He'll be a lawyer or a doctor or something. 784 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,190 # Loving would be easy if your colours were like my dream 785 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:31,400 # Red, gold and green Red, gold and green. # 786 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,150 Thank God Roy's not here or we'd be getting all sorts of orders 787 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,790 about how it should be done and shouldn't be done, 788 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,390 how we're not doing this right. 789 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,480 But Peg Leg's not here, so... 790 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,950 Peggy Mount's not here. 791 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,470 "Peg Leg's not here," oh, dear. 792 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,750 You know what I did was 793 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,950 I kind of registered my disappointment, then I moved on. 794 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,150 I just sent him an e-mail saying "I'm disappointed you're not coming," 795 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,750 because - I don't know if you remember, maybe you filmed this - 796 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,670 but he didn't really want to come anyway. 797 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,910 So it seems a bit con... 798 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,070 I mean, I know he has to have knee surgery and all of that, 799 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,710 but it did seem a bit like he planned it so he didn't have to come. 800 00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,230 "Oh, my knee! Oh, my knee! I couldn't possibly be there!" 801 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,390 Do you think that he didn't actually want to come? Not at all. 802 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,270 No, that's ridiculous. No, he's really... 803 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,470 When we were in Spain his leg was really bad. 804 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,800 I sympathise with him. 805 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,150 I learned quite a lot in Spain. 806 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,710 You think you know it all, but you don't, really, don't you? 807 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:33,590 We're all different because we're older, 808 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,590 but underneath it all we're still the same, 809 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,550 so when those same things surface... 810 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,960 you know, it gets you a little bit, "Argh!" 811 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,640 Och aye. What a dump. 812 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,950 By the way, Roy sends his love. 813 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,870 Oh, don't overdo it. Poor Roy! 814 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,270 Roy sends his love to you, you, you, you... It's the Roy appreciation. 815 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,430 "Oh, poor Roy." To everyone. He sends his love. 816 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,990 Didn't want to come! 817 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,190 She wouldn't... No, he had to have the work done. 818 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,030 Hold on. He had to have the work done. 819 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,470 She's had a gammy knee for years. 820 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,070 Yeah, I've got a gammy knee as well. Well, you're here. 821 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,270 Yeah. But anyway, Roy did need to do it. 822 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,590 Has he paid you a fiver to keep going, "Oh, poor Roy?" No, no, no. 823 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,790 Basically, Roy's not here bossing everyone around 824 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,750 and trying to call the shots. 825 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,750 Michael, quick, it's a coup! No, no, no, no. 826 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,350 Anyway. Never mind, it's fine. 827 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,070 And the end of the day I was sitting there going... 828 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,230 Do you know what? I've learned not to hate you any more... 829 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:30,990 Why would you hate me? I'm lovely! 830 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,000 ..even when you, you piss me off, I've learned not to hate you. 831 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,430 It's got my name wrong, as well. Joan. Joan Moist. 832 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,070 That's, like, a bit filthy. 833 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,390 Your kids are going to see this. Behave. 834 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,270 They're my children. I know your children very well. 835 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,830 Babs used to go on about this. 836 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,230 "The kids are going to find out what happens, they'll watch that programme." 837 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,350 Watched it. "You all right about it?" 838 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,430 "Yeah." And she was like, "And?" Good. 839 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,230 She was quite excited about it, in fact, something to talk about. 840 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:00,670 Good. Well, I can fill her in the details if she wants. 841 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,270 No, that's probably not a good idea. 842 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,470 You're sailing a bit close to the wind here, George. 843 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,630 Like when you said... Shut up! I'll kill you! 844 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,230 When you said to the journalist, 845 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,110 "I smashed a pot over George's head and he tried to set fire to me." 846 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,350 But that's true! 847 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,630 You threw a plant pot through the first floor 848 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,750 and it would have killed me, and then you wouldn't come out, 849 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,670 going, "I'm not coming out! Fuck off, Jon, fuck off, Jon!" 850 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,110 But, Jon, babe, babe, babe... Look at your shoes! 851 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,830 ..can I just say something? 852 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,790 I could spend the next 20 years telling you stories 853 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,110 about things you did. 854 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,190 Cool, I don't mind. Don't tell journalists things like that. 855 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,910 Well, it's better than saying you sniffed my bum in Hampstead. 856 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,550 My mum was like, "Why did he say that?" That's what you said. 857 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,990 She said, "Why did he say that?" I said, "That's Jon." 858 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,230 You said you sniffed my bum like a dog in Hampstead. 859 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,830 That would have been a much worse headline! I never said that! 860 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,750 Much worse headline. I never said that! 861 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,310 You did! No, no, I did not. Oh, yes, you did. 862 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,310 OK, let me say what I said. 863 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,110 I said when you're around people you do the sniffy thing like dogs. 864 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,150 You said, "He sniffed my bum!" No, I didn't. 865 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,270 I never said that! I didn't say you sniffed my bum. 866 00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,590 An animal, going... 867 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,590 No. Roy said, "That's good, George, isn't it?! 868 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,270 "Now they're going to write you sniffed his bum in Hampstead!" 869 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,910 That's what it was. "That's bloody clever, George, isn't it?! 870 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,270 "I'm leaving!" 871 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,640 Move on. 872 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,190 Sounds like Benny Hill. 873 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,590 It's like Benny Hill with the sax, though, don't you think? 874 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,190 I'm going round to everyone going, 875 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,880 "Don't mess this up, right? It's really important." 876 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,760 Psychological games. 877 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,200 Don't fuck this up. 878 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,280 Don't fuck this up. 879 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,270 Jon? Yeah? 880 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,070 Don't fuck this up. Don't what? Don't fuck this up. 881 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,390 I was going to say the same to you, actually. 882 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,120 He said it to everyone, the bastard. 883 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,070 Guys, are we ready? 884 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,160 He keeps asking if I'm nervous, he's trying to make me edgy. 885 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,110 The battlements of Edinburgh Castle have witnessed wars, sieges, 886 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,750 murders and revolutions, 887 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,830 but the tension and turmoil of changed are nothing 888 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,710 compared to what our next guests have been through. 889 00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:10,310 Please welcome Mikey Craig, Jon Moss and Boy George - 890 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,720 it's happening - from Culture Club! 891 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,400 # Do you really want to hurt me? 892 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,960 # Do you really want to make me cry? 893 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,830 # Precious kisses, words that burn me 894 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,670 # Those lovers never ask you why 895 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,550 # Do you really want to hurt me? 896 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,070 # Do you really want to make me cry... # 897 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,720 Happy birthday to Jon's son, Clyde, who's 17 today. 898 00:43:54,720 --> 00:44:00,110 # Do you really want to make me cry? # 899 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,360 Ho! Beautiful. 900 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,480 Thank you very much. 901 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,640 I hope you're going to come and see us when we play in December. 902 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,840 Absolutely phenomenal, so brilliant to have you back. 903 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,350 Wasn't it good? 904 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,990 We've got to be out of here in ten minutes. All right. 905 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,390 Let's go, let's go. Let's vamoose. 906 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,430 That was good, it's good. 907 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:34,110 It's like one of those weird things, it was, like, so quick, 908 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,550 it's hard to even kind of think about what it was like. 909 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,990 I just couldn't tell you, I'll wait to see the tweets. 910 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,470 "Oh, she's awful, she's out of tune, 911 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,830 "they should give up." 912 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,310 You know that saying, critics go in after the battle is won 913 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:47,910 and shoot the survivors? 914 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,480 Move on. 915 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,830 # He was living in his car on the side of the road 916 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,800 # Like a crack pipe Jesus... # 917 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,670 Interesting times, yes. George has... 918 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,710 George has changed management in midstream. 919 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:20,230 Yeah, which is, er... 920 00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:22,350 Well, even by George's standards, 921 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,910 that's pretty impressive to create chaos. 922 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,390 It's the first person I've ever met who actually has a kind of plan. 923 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,870 'The kind of music business that we know doesn't exist any more. 924 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,630 'The sort of bog-standard ways of doing things just are over. 925 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,350 'I need someone who can see a bigger picture, and I've found someone.' 926 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,070 We've almost got three sets of managers now managing the band, 927 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,870 so you've got e-mails going round and round and round and round, 928 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:52,790 and we got to the point where we almost lost an American tour. 929 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,960 It's amazing that I'm actually here in this country. 930 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,270 So you nearly didn't come over, then? 931 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,910 No, because nothing was arranged. 932 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,240 All I really want is to be able to go out and play new songs. 933 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,030 I mean, thank God we've got the album in the bag. 934 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,200 I think that saved us, because we all believe in the record. 935 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,430 JON: Really, it's not that difficult, you know what I mean? 936 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,670 We do it, we rehearse, we go out and play. 937 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,870 It's just a question of whether you want drama 938 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,630 or you don't want drama, you know. I personally go for the non-drama. 939 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,550 But this is Culture Club. 940 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,630 I know, but it's supposed to get better! 941 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,440 It's got fucking worse! 942 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,560 # You could be a different man... # 943 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,710 It's a very historic day. 944 00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:59,470 Culture Club back after 12 years, isn't it? So I love it. 945 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,030 # Do you really want to hurt me? # 946 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,630 Lovely. I love it. Fantastic. 947 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,670 This is like my idea of hell. 948 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,990 There's, like, so many people in the dressing room, 949 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,830 there's nowhere to get changed, there's nowhere just to be quiet. 950 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,670 That's really important before a show. 951 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,750 There were supposed to be some press interviews and things. 952 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,470 Don't know about that. Cancelled? I don't know. OK. 953 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,510 I'm just a drummer now. 954 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,350 I'm not going to do interviews on the day of the show. 955 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,510 So get ready two hours before you need to, for what? 956 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,390 To be on the news? 957 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,320 It really wasn't my... I didn't cancel Vogue. 958 00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:37,720 Shall we go? Shall we go, Georgie? 959 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,920 Hello, Heaven! 960 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,030 # Desolate loving in your eyes 961 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,510 # You used to make my life so sweet 962 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,390 # In the church of the poison mind 963 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,270 # In the church of the poison mind 964 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,150 # In the church of the poison mind 965 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,030 # In the church of the poison mind 966 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,040 # In the church of the poison mind. # 967 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,720 Someone backstage just asked me my name, so there's work to be done. 968 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:35,750 # I could use a little more than silence 969 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,070 # Silence is a moon 970 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,430 # In a lonely sky... # 971 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,150 Loved it, especially the new songs. 972 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,400 He looks amazing and sounded amazing. It's fantastic. 973 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,310 Very nice. It was a fantastic night, seriously. 974 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,240 Thank you very much! 975 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,710 Everybody, well done. Everybody, well done. Great, man. 976 00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:17,950 Thank you, girls. Magnificent. Thank you, Roy. 977 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,840 I'm happy, yeah, good. 978 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,350 Quite tired, actually, which is not good. 979 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,800 Now what do I do? 980 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,510 I used to drink myself into oblivion, 981 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,200 but I can't do that any more! 982 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,920 Great gig, mate, thanks very much. Guys, great job. 983 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,750 Do you know what the dates are? 984 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,230 Yeah. We get there on the Monday, I think, 985 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:44,800 Friday's Atlantic City, we fly out on Saturday. 986 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,750 Who knows? Who knows what's going to happen? We don't know. 987 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,990 Who knows what might happen? Anything's possible for January. 988 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,630 Signing a deal for... Revlon. 989 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,390 I don't think he quite understands rock 'n' roll. 990 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,110 I've got him ten revenue, ten streams of revenue for George, 991 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,350 it's going to be this and that, this and that. 992 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,710 You boys, 300 million it's going to be worth, you boys will be in on it. 993 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:11,350 But, in a way, maybe that's a good thing. 994 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,710 Has it created divisions? 995 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:15,830 Yeah, having a new person in the mix when everything was...? 996 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,750 No, it's kind of brought the three of us very close together, actually. 997 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,390 When you say the three of us, I mean, the three of you... 998 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,150 Divisions with George? Yeah? Well, George is George, you know. 999 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,110 But the three of us are now, you know, 1000 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,120 very much... close together. 1001 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,640 Glitzy! 1002 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:51,600 OK, stand by. 1003 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,760 MUSIC: Karma Chameleon 1004 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,270 # There's a loving in your eyes all the way... # 1005 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,110 'I'm the only one that's singing live. 1006 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,830 'We don't do it like that any more, so it's a bit of a weird thing.' 1007 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,470 And it's really weird... It's just... 1008 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,470 You know what? We just made a great new album 1009 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,670 that they could have easily done a dance to. 1010 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,520 # Every day is about survival... # 1011 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,510 'I just thought we could have done Runaway Train, 1012 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,990 'it would have been just as good as Karma Chameleon.' 1013 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,430 I love it, I do it live, I've always done it live. 1014 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,070 It's kind of like a... 1015 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,240 What you'd call a fait accompli. 1016 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,110 Time for some brilliant music. 1017 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,800 Here with Karma Chameleon, it's Culture Club! 1018 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,470 # Karma karma karma karma Karma chameleon 1019 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,590 # You come and go 1020 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,310 # You come and go 1021 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,190 # Loving would be easy if your colours were like my dream 1022 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:24,240 # Red, gold and green Red, gold and green. # 1023 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,560 Thank you very, very, very much. Thank you, honey, fabulous. Bless you. 1024 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,840 I wouldn't describe it as my finest musical moment. 1025 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,870 I couldn't really hear anything, La-la-la-la-la. 1026 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,800 La-la-la! 1027 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,990 No, I mean, you know, I'm... 1028 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,230 I'm old, I'm very old. I'm very old. 1029 00:52:56,240 --> 00:53:00,830 I suppose, at the end of the day, the bottom line is that it's done, 1030 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,230 so what's next? 1031 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:04,880 Some more coconut soup. That's what I want. 1032 00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:19,150 Let's go from the chorus. Very nice. 1033 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,590 How are you, Mr Hay? 1034 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,550 Recovering from the barrage of bad comments after last night. 1035 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,000 I know, I know! 1036 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,910 The reviews for Heaven - fantastic, you know, great show. 1037 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,510 We were on such high, man. Everything was great, and then... 1038 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,350 I think getting in front of 12 million 1039 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,190 and a lacklustre performance. 1040 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,470 I don't know if he was tired or sick or didn't want to do it, 1041 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,030 he was pissed off we had to do Karma... 1042 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,950 But he was in a good mood all day. Yeah. 1043 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,150 I'm just hoping he's OK, you know. 1044 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,640 Maybe physically he wasn't feeling very well. 1045 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,120 You know, everybody's been going wild about Heaven. 1046 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,070 It was amazing. 1047 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,950 And then to have that high and then come down to a low is... 1048 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,560 It's a little bit worrying. 1049 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,640 An iconic band cancels their North American tour. 1050 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,590 # Do you really want to hurt me? # 1051 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,950 '80s band Culture Club has cancelled their North American 1052 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,710 and UK reunion tour after it was discovered 1053 00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:31,550 Boy George has a vocal polyp. 1054 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,030 Doctors ordered the 53-year-old to stop singing 1055 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,470 otherwise he'll need to undergo surgery. 1056 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,760 Boy George took to Facebook to apologise to his fans, saying... 1057 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,910 What did he say? There's been a bit of an improvement. 1058 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,910 But I'm going to have to actually have some periods 1059 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,840 where I don't speak, so that's going to be really challenging! 1060 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,830 And did they give you any indication of when you can sing again? 1061 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,870 Well, he said it's one of those things. 1062 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,510 I need, you know, therapy, I need to have some therapy, 1063 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,030 which is what I'll do with this lady, and then we'll see. 1064 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,670 It's not something you can kind of measure. Do you know what I mean? 1065 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,270 He said there's been an improvement, so that's good news, 1066 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,390 but, obviously, if I were to go out and start shouting and screaming 1067 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,790 and, you know, running around town it probably wouldn't be a good idea, 1068 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,710 so, you know, I've got to recuperate. I think that's the key, you know. 1069 00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:40,230 Really, the last thing I should be doing right now 1070 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:43,600 is going to meet the fans, but I'll just try and keep quiet. 1071 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,150 The band think that I'm just being... 1072 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,910 difficult and selfish and blah blah blah blah. 1073 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,550 They want to go out and just do it and I don't, 1074 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,550 and I'm not going to. 1075 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,590 I just want to do this properly. 1076 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,270 Sometimes, in order to do that, 1077 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,550 you have to be belligerent and fight people. 1078 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,640 That's what's happening right now. 1079 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,910 Are there plans for you to go back out on the road? Not right now. 1080 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,680 Not right now. No. 1081 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,590 Where have you come from? Singapore. 1082 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,830 I'm from New York. We just arrived today. 1083 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,310 Where have you two come from? From Italy. 1084 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,200 How did you feel when you heard that the dates were cancelled? 1085 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,190 It was very disappointing. 1086 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,950 We've had the flights and the hotel, 1087 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,110 and so we couldn't believe that it was cancelled. 1088 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:00,870 We just decided to come anyway 1089 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,790 because we can't cancel the hotel and flights. 1090 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,390 Cos you've been a fan of George's a long time, haven't you? 1091 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,550 Oh, my God, since I was 13. Yeah, that's a long time, and I'm 46 now. 1092 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,440 So, yeah, that's quite a bit, yeah. 1093 00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,830 I'm in a cafe in Hampstead with a load of people 1094 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,750 that came to the shows. 1095 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,590 There's like one, two... There's a lot. 1096 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,120 I'm buying them chips. 1097 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,710 It felt like a dream, it was, like, not real. 1098 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,870 Didn't really feel like we were really there, but... 1099 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,680 Everybody put their hands up! 1100 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:44,560 I couldn't believe that I had a conversation like friends. 1101 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,640 I never saw this article. 1102 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,520 It's actually quite a good picture. Well, of me! 1103 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:54,600 "The happy ending." 1104 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,190 Love you. And I'm going. Au revoir. 1105 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,630 Bye-bye. Safe travels. Bye, George! 1106 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,390 A bientot. 1107 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,870 Right, so I'm going now. Where's the thing? 1108 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:10,110 OK, well, thanks for that. 1109 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,070 Really got on my nerves, just want you to know. 1110 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,470 Please don't bother me again, don't come round me again with your stupid camera. 1111 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:16,870 See you later. 1112 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,510 We'll see each other next week, yeah? Yeah, Monday, yeah? 1113 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,600 All right, love you, bye. Bye, bye, bye. 1114 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,990 The common-sense thing is if you sit down and talk about things, 1115 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,870 things sort of get resolved, 1116 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,160 or at least people know roughly where they are. 1117 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,750 Hello, Mikey. 1118 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,670 Do you want to meet up for a coffee on Saturday morning? 1119 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,320 All right, darling, I'll see you then. 1120 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:51,790 Jon. 1121 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,830 I just said to Mikey I'll have coffee with him 1122 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,110 on Saturday morning if you want to join us. 1123 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,520 That's two down. One to go! 90840

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