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[♪]

[Jason Priestley]
\hWhen 90210 hit,

it was a life-changing event.

[crowd clamoring,
cameras snapping]

[♪]

\h\h[Priestley] But anytime
you’re a teen heartthrob...

[teens screaming]

...everyone just assumes

\h\hthat you can’t be
that good of an actor,

\h\h\hand you’re just
a good-looking kid...

[♪]

[teens screaming]

[news reporter]
Look familiar?

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hTeenage frenzy
as old as your Elvis records,

but this is 1992,

and these girls are here
\h\h\hto see Luke Perry.

[teens screaming,
cameras clicking]

\h\h[Priestley] ...but I think
Luke understood the importance

of letting the world know

that he was more than just
this Dylan McKay character

that all the teenage girls
\h\h\h\h\h\hhad posters of

up in their bedroom.

[teens screaming]

[news reporter] Luke Perry

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhas signed
a lot of autographs lately

thanks to Beverly Hills 90210.

About a year ago,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe teen drama
turned this little-known actor

into Hollywood’s latest idol.

\h\h\h[Kristy Swanson] There was
a time when I was in my trailer,

\h\h\h\h\hand I heard
a bunch of screaming,

like, high squeals.

Like--

\h[teens screaming]
There’s Luke Perry!

There’s Luke Perry, oh my god!

[screaming]

\h\h\h\hThey were screaming
like The Beatles were there,

you know what I mean?

It was just-- It was wild.

[teens screaming]

[♪]

I think Luke had tons
of celebrity problems.

I don’t have those problems.

[news reporter]
This is a moment

more than 7,000 teenagers
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwaited for,

but the excitement
was uncontrollable.

You catch yourself wanting
those problems, you know,

but you don’t want
\hthose problems.

\h\h\h[Dean Winters]
I think, at the time,

Brad Pitt and DiCaprio
\h\h\hwere coming up,

\h\h\hbut they weren’t--
they weren’t Luke Perry,

do you know what I mean?

\h\h\h\hI mean, he was probably
the biggest actor on the planet.

[crowd screaming]

[Marisol Nichols]
Luke was iconic.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe really was,
I mean, he was "Luke Perry."

[crowd shouting]

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Nichols]
With his amount of fame,

you could phone it in,

but Luke never phoned it in,

ever.

[Luke Perry] I always thought
that I would succeed somehow,

but you don’t...

\h\h\hWell, you don’t think
it’s going to be like this.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI mean,
I certainly didn’t think

it was gonna be like this.

[♪]

[Stephen Baldwin]
\hCertain actors,

when they get that stigma

of "handsome" and "good looks",

they’ll go and do performances

to get around that,
\hprove themselves,

but more importantly,

\h\hsatisfy their own
artistic motivations,

so...

that’s my favorite part
\h\h\hof knowing Luke,

\hand having been
friends with him,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwas that he was
that "real deal" as an actor.

[Winters] As an actor,
\hI learned from Luke.

I was doing a show called Oz,

and Luke was the character
\h\h\h\hJeremiah Cloutier,

\h\h\h\h\h\hand I remember
he was a pro at stillness,

and film and television acting

is about being still.

\h\h\h\h\h\h[Timothy Olyphant]
My experience working with Luke

was he didn’t seem like
\h\h\ha huge celebrity.

He just seemed like
\ha working actor,

and I mean that
in the best way.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Perry]
If I’m the flash-in-the-pan,

or all that everyone tells you
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou’re gonna be,

maybe so,

but I’ll go down fighting.

\h\h\h\hLuke had a lot of
creative drive inside him,

and he wanted to do... more.

He wanted to do more.

[♪]

[Margaret Wappler]
\hLuke was raised

by his mom and his stepfather
\h\h\hin Fredericktown, Ohio,

\h\h\h\h\h\hand it’s just
this little farming town.

It’s only about 2,500 people.

I didn’t see my first Porsche
\huntil I got to California,

\h\h\h\h\hso, uh, you know,
I wasn’t brought up wealthy.

I was brought up well.

[Margaret Wappler]
From a young age,

he loved watching TV
\h\h\hwith his mom,

particularly soap operas--
\hthat was her favorite--

and then after school,

\h\h\h\hhe’d come home,
he’d watch TV Westerns,

and he was completely fascinated
by the performers.

\h\h[cocking gun]
That’s right, Lon.

Now, up in here right quick.

[Wappler] By the time
he was in high school,

\hhe knew he wanted
to become an actor.

The dream--

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hit was just
completely formed in his mind,

and he would tell, like,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,
anyone who would listen.

The problem was Fredericktown,

he just wasn’t gonna get far
\h\h\hwith that dream there,

so when he turned 18,

he picked up,

he moved to New York,

\h\h\h\h\h\hand he began
the grind of auditioning.

[David Sheinkopf]
I was in New York,

and I was going out for a movie
called Young Guns,

\h\hand I met this guy
in the casting office,

\h\h\hand it was just--
it was just me and him,

and he had on, like, this-

\h\h\h\h\hthis, like,
kinda cowboy-ish hat,

and, uh, it was Luke.

\h\h\h\h\hWe kind of, like,
traded a couple of stories,

and neither of us got the role,

\h\hand, you know,
we were just, like,

"Hey, you know, we’ll hang out."

I booked a job for a show
\h\hcalled Another World.

They would pick everybody up
\h\h\h\h\hin a stretch limo,

and I opened the door,

and Luke is sitting there...

[laughing] and it was, like,

it was perfect.

Originally,

the goal was to see myself
\h\h\hon a television set,

because I didn’t know
if it could be done.

Um, so then I saw that,

and then I fell in love
\h\h\h\h\h\hwith acting

somewhere along the way.

\h\h\h\hI think you’re blaming
your mother for your problems.

She is my problem.

-Is she?
\h-Yes.

Or is it Matt?

[Sheinkopf] And his mom
absolutely loved soaps,

and she was so proud of him.

From then on, we just--
\h\hwe became friends,

and, um, it was a friendship
\h\hthat lasted for decades.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Wappler]
He did two soap operas,

Loving, and Another World,

and after that,

\hhe decides to go to L.A.
for pilot season for 1990.

\h\h\h\h\h[Priestley]
Back in the old days,

when we actually had
\h\ha pilot season,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hit was like going
to acting bootcamp for a month,

\hand actors would fly in
from all over the country,

\h\hand we’d all stay
at the Oakwood Gardens

on Barham Avenue,

\h\h\h\h\h\hso there’d be, like,
a million young actors in there,

and then, like, you know,

50 freshly divorced Dads.

Like, it was really, uh,

it was hilarious.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIf you were
a fresh piece of meat in town,

that nobody had seen,

\h\h\h\hit was, like,
five auditions a day,

and then you’d come home
at the end of the night,

\h\h\h\h\hand there’d be
another stack of scripts,

and so you’d be in there

\h\h\h\h\hreading, you know,
all the scripts every night,

and preparing for the next day,

and then, so you’d go out,

and do four or five
\h\hmore auditions,

and it was like that for weeks,
after weeks, after weeks.

That part of it is business.

Um, the actual performing

and the creating of a character,
that’s pleasure,

but the going through
the political process

of getting a job,
that’s business.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI was on a show
in California for a few months,

and Luke called me.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe said,
"I’m gonna come out to LA."

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe’s, like,
"Can I crash on your couch?"

and I said, "My couch is yours,"

and then, uh, he got a place
\h\h\hover at the Arquettes.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hThe Arquettes
had a spare room or something,

and Luke’s, like, "Hey, man,
\h\h\h\hI found this place.

Do you wanna rent it with me?"

and I was, like, "Absolutely,"

\h\hand that’s kinda
how Mansfield began.

Man...

Crazy.

The old--the old palace.

So this was-this was my room,

and then right through that door
is the bathroom.

You can see that little window.

That little minute of light,

and then you make a quick left,
and that was Luke’s room.

He wanted the back room.

\h\h\h\h\hHe’s, like, "Dude,
you can have the bigger room.

I just want the back room."

I’m, like, "Cool."

Uh, while we lived here,

he was working in Diamond Bar,

\h\h\h\hand he was doing--
he was doing random stuff,

’cause that’s what he knew.

\h\h\h\h\hLike, he knew
how to do construction,

and he won the coin flip,

so he got the garage,

and then, you know,
this whole backyard,

it was, you know...

and we used to have parties
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hout here,

\h\hso it was kind of
a cool spot, you know?

How long have you lived here?

A little over a year.

[Maria Shriver interview]
When Perry left New York,

he ended up here,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin this rented
two-bedroom house in Hollywood.

Not exactly the kind of place
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou’d find

\h\h\h\h\hon Lifestyles
of the Rich and Famous.

[Perry] Wipe your feet.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHa, ha.

[Shriver] Yeah, ha, ha.

Who decorated this house,
\h\h\h\h\h\hfirst of all?

I decorated this house.

You did?

Well, I didn’t really
\h\h\h\hdecorate it,

but my stuff is in here.

This room, I can’t go in,
\h\h\h\h\hbecause it’s--

Not because it’s your bedroom,

but because you’ve got
\h\hyour pig in there,

and you won’t let the pig
\h\h\h\h\h\hgo on camera.

Exactly.

You’re very protective
\h\h\h\h\hof your pig.

I certainly am.

Now, why won’t you let
your pig go on camera?

It’s not so much my choice.
\h\hI give him the option.

-It’s the pig’s choice?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h-Exactly.

I’ve given him the option
\h\h\h\h\hnumerous times

to appear on, you know,
talk shows, magazines.

\h\h\h\h\hHe declines.
I’m not gonna push it.

\h\h\h\hAnd you’ve asked him
about appearing on this show?

He’s got a big thing for you.

The pig is crazy about you,
\h\h\h\h\hbut, you know...

\hHe was always tinkering
with something, you know?

He always had his hands busy.

He loved to do things.

We had these old leaf hinges
\h\hon the-- in the kitchen,

and he ripped them all down,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand he, like,
was dipping these old hinges

into, you know, um,
\h\hpaint thinner.

I’m, like, "What are you doing?"

He’s, like, "They’re copper,"

and I said, "Oh,"

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand then
he painted the kitchen grey,

and he did black linoleum
\h\h\h\h\h\hon the floor,

\h\h\h\hand, you know,
he, like, made it home,

\h\h\h\hbecause that’s
what he did, you know?

Home was where he made it.

[Perry] I never really
\h\h\hfelt completely

the place where I lived
was where I should be.

I always felt--

\h\hI never felt like I was
running away from something,

but I did always feel that
I was running to something.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Sheinkopf]
I give actors much props,

because it’s a hard life.

You take rejection
\h\hfor a living.

For Luke, I don’t think
\h\h\h\h"not making it"

was an option for him.

I think he took it on the chin
\h\h\h\hpretty well, you know?

I mean, I think that, you know,

going on as many auditions
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\has he did,

and not getting them,

\h\hit just drove him
to do more, you know?

You were in it to win it.

Last man standing.

[Dianne Young] I was casting
\h\h\hthe television version

of Ferris Bueller’s Day off,

and Luke came in.

I looked at him and I thought,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"You are so not
what I’m looking for, for this,"

\h\hand he goes,
"I know, I know,"

\hhe just-- and he said,
"But I know who you are,

and I wanted to meet you,
\h\h\hand if we could..."

\h\h\hand I said, "That’s fine,
you know, come in, have a seat,"

and we sat and we chatted
\h\h\h\hfor quite a while

\h\h\h\h\h\habout things,
and what he wanted to do,

and he was very sweet,

and I just thought...

Sometimes, you get a feeling,
\hand I just thought, "Hmm...

I have to remember this guy."

[interviewer] 219 auditions.

I am in awe that you held on

and were willing to do it.

Where does it come from?

Well, in all fairness,
it was 216, and it...

A fear of failure, I guess,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know?

It’s easy to--

You hear "No" a lot,

but it only means no
\hif you believe it.

Everybody auditioned
for that role of his,

everybody, like, you know,

they were looking far and wide
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor that role.

[Young] I came in knowing

that they were adding
a character to 90210,

but he was the bad boy.

\h\h\hChuck told me
about the character.

\h\h\hThe more he talked,
the more I thought, "Oh...

I know who this should be."

When the reading was over,

I just kind of waited,

\h\hand Chuck turned to me
and said, "That’s the guy."

He was perfect.

There wasn’t anything more

that you could say to Luke
\h\h\h\h\h\hat that point,

of how to play the character.

He understood it.

There was something raw inside

that he just intuitively got,

\hand Mr. Spelling
certainly saw that

at the time that we were
\h\hdoing the audition.

When we did the audition

for the Fox Broadcasting
\h\h\hcompany, however,

Luke was nervous,

and it didn’t happen

\hin the way that we had
all hoped it would play.

The network didn’t understand

why we were asking
\h\hfor more money

to put this character in,

and they weren’t gonna go there,

and Mr. Spelling,

who often doesn’t volunteer
his own wallet for things,

said, "I’ll pay for him,"

and so, the special bond

that Luke Perry had
with Aaron Spelling

was formed in that moment.

[Priestley] So, Luke and I
\hmet for the first time--

Chuck Rosin decided to have
\h\h\h\h\h\ha table reading

for the first episode,

and after the table reading,

-Luke and I--
\h\h\h\h\h-Hey.

--were outside on the porch

in front of Chuck’s house--

My name’s, uh, Brandon Walsh.

Brandon Walsh...

Scotch or Irish?

Both, actually,

by way of Minnesota.

\h\h\h\h\h\hEspecially
in that first episode,

it was all about Dylan McKay,
\h\h\h\h\h\hthe surfing guy,

and the surfer, and...

and so, I said to him, I said,

"Do you surf, dude?"

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand he said,
"Never surfed a day in my life."

I said, "We’re gonna get along
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hjust fine,"

and, uh, you know, we were just
thick as thieves after that.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Chuck Rosin]
Why was surf culture important

to bring into Dylan’s character
in 90210?

\hI thought it really connected
to the spiritual side of Dylan,

and I thought Luke
just carried that,

and really picked that up.

\h\hSurf culture had to be
part of the beach culture.

If you’re talking
\hBeverly Hills--

This is before we even
\h\h\hcreated anything

called the "Beverly Hills
\h\h\h\h\h\hBeach Club",

\h\h\h\hbut if you talk about
what California has to offer,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hit’s not
its cosmopolitan architecture,

and even though we do have

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha lot of
really smart people here,

it isn’t even our institutional,

or academic, um, connections,

it’s our physical beauty.

Our proximity to the desert,
the mountains, and the sea.

\hI don’t know [bleep] about
the desert or the mountains,

but I know about the ocean.

\h\h\hSo, Luke didn’t
join the cast of 90210

until the first episode.

He was not in the pilot.

Aaron wanted to add a hunk,

but a guy that was more
\h\h\hthan just a hunk.

\h\hLike, a guy who was--
a guy who was complicated.

Dylan McKay pretended to be
\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha tough guy,

but was also super sensitive,

and would get his feelings hurt,

and he was--and he was
really trying to, like,

sort out what it was to be a...

a responsible human,

because he wasn’t raised
by a responsible human.

Luke was the perfect guy
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor that.

He could play it really cool,

but then he was also not afraid

to make really bold choices.

I’m an idiot!

Please don’t leave.

You’re scaring me!

I’m sorry.

Dylan, what happened?

My dad, he just gets to me.

He always gets to me.

\h\h\h\h\hI don’t know
what I’m supposed to...

Oh!

[♪]

[Rosin] We had finished
\h\h\hour first season,

and I had a call
with the network.

\h\h\h\hBarry Diller,
a very particular man,

started the meeting by saying,
\h\h\h\hyes, 90210 is working

but, uh, does it belong
\h\h\h\h\hon "our air"?

\hAs if-- Because Fox,
you know, had attitude,

and did we have enough attitude?

[♪]

[Wappler] So, when the show
\h\hfirst starts, you know,

it’s a non-union production.

Nobody really cares about it.

Like, it’s just happening

and, you know, maybe it’ll land,
maybe it won’t.

Fox was a fledgling network
\h\h\h\h\h\hat that point,

and Mr. Murdoch,

with the Fox Broadcasting
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hService,

\h\h\h\hhad just bought
the satellite in China,

and so, he needed to put
\h\h\h\hhis money there,

and they didn’t--

Fox Broadcasting really
just didn’t have enough

\hto make a TV show
right at that moment

to replace us,

\h\h\hand then what happens
is the Gulf War breaks out.

We do not need another Hitler.

[Rosin] The networks
immediately suspend

all their commercial activity
\h\h\h\h\h\hto cover the war.

Fox, and this is
hard to believe,

did not have a news department,

and so, they had no choice

but just to run what they had.

\h\hSo, did we get
Daddy’s permission?

Nope, we got Mom’s.

\h\h\h\h\h\h[Priestley]
On our Christmas break,

I said to Luke and Ian,

\h\h\hI said, "Guys,
let’s go to Zermatt.

Let’s go skiing,"

so we all book our tickets,
\h\hand we’re all gonna go,

and then Luke, all of a sudden,
isn’t gonna come

because something’s come up,

and he’s not gonna be able
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto make it,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hso Ian and I
travel all the way to Zurich,

and we were getting on the train
to go to Zermatt,

and all of a sudden,
\h\h\hLuke’s there,

and we’re like, "Dude!

\h\h\h\h\h\hWe thought
you couldn’t make it?"

He was, like, "All right.

No, right, right, I had to, man,
I had to come..." you know,

and this was very Luke."

All he had was his ski bag,

\hand he had taken
all of his clothes.

and stuffed them in his ski bag,

\h\h\hso everything he wore,
the whole trip, was wrinkled.

It was pretty funny.

So, anyway, we go to Zermatt,
\h\h\h\h\h\hand we’re skiing,

\h\hand we’re, you know,
we’re going out at night

to the Post Hotel,

and we could tell that
there were a few people

knew who we were,

\h\h\h\h\hbut sometimes
nobody knew who we were,

but we got bothered enough
\hthat I think we all knew

that...

that it was about to change.

[teens screaming]

It was a big shock to all of us.

[teens screaming and cheering]

But shopping malls
just became a place

that we couldn’t go to
\h\h\h\hfor 10 years.

It was crazy.

\h\h[news reporter]
Each Thursday night,

\hmillions of teens
hang up their phones

to watch the latest exploits
\h\hof the coolest, richest,

and most gorgeous
high school clique

this side of Rodeo Drive.

It’s not like anything else,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know?

\h\h\h\hIt’s appealing
to a teenage audience,

which barely anybody in TV
was really thinking about.

[teens screaming and cheering]

It was a huge show.

Even if you didn’t watch it,
\h\h\h\hyou know everybody.

The first few times
\hthat we went out,

you know, to meet the public,
\h\h\hand to do appearances,

\h\h\hum, and then we saw
the response that we got.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt was pretty--
It was amazing, it really was.

I mean, you just-- you forget

how many millions of people
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hare watching.

They found his trailer.

\h\h\h\hThey were screaming
like The Beatles were there,

you know what I mean?

Well, the most popular thing
\h\h\h\h\h\h\his the pillow,

\h\h’cause they get
to sleep with them.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIn the ’90s,
everybody knew Luke Perry.

He became a household name.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hPerry says
a girl came up to him recently

and asked for his gum.

He produced a new stick,
\h\h\hoffered it to her,

and she turned it down.

She wanted the piece
\h\hhe was chewing.

Luke was iconic,
\hhe really was.

I mean, he was "Luke Perry".

\h\h\h\hIt didn’t get
any bigger than that.

[cameras clicking]

\hYou didn’t know that girls
were going to sleep at night

with their little heads
\h\hagainst your face,

saying, "Oh, Luke!"

I heard about ’em, but...
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughing]

[Baldwin] You could see women

get distracted by it.

That’s the thing is,

Luke was that kind of energy
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand look,

\h\h\h\h\h\hwhere you could see
a married woman with her husband

going, "Oh!"

\h[news reporter]
This is the moment

\h\h\h\hmore than 7,000
South Florida teenagers

waited for.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hLuke Perry,
star of Beverly Hills 90210,

was in South Florida

at the fashion mall
\h\hin Plantation,

but the wait,

\h\h\hfor some teens
more than six hours,

was too much,

and the excitement
\huncontrollable.

[crowd screaming and cheering]

The crowd, barely containable
\h\hbefore he walked onstage,

erupted.

\hThey pushed and shoved
to get at the teen star,

knocking down barricades,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\huntil finally,
Perry had to be whisked away.

[crowd screaming]

\h\h\hI said to myself,
"This is not worth it."

You know? It absolutely
\h\h\his not worth it.

Um, I want our show to do well,

\h\hbut certainly
not at the expense

of anyone getting injured,
\hor possibly even killed.

All of a sudden, you know,
\heverybody was involved,

and, you know, we had security
\h\h\haround us all the time.

Like, a show like that,
\hthat is that popular,

\h\h\hit does become
a double-edged sword.

[Peter Ferriero] The biggest
\h\hthings that I’ve gotten

out of the Beverly Hills 90210
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hShow podcast

is this community
cares so deeply.

The fanbase cares so deeply
\h\hfor all of the actors.

There is this deep connection,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI think,

\h\hfeeling as if we all
experienced high school,

or the things that you would
\hexperience in high school,

together.

The character, Dylan McKay,
\h\h\h\hyes, he’s a rebel,

and yes, he was in trouble,

\hand yes, he was
super interesting,

and all of that stuff,

but there is something
\hinherently just good

about that character.

That he’s looking out
\h\hfor his friends,

that he cares,

and he’s also very soft spoken,

so he makes you want to hear
\h\h\h\h\hwhat he’s saying.

[bell tolling]

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Wappler]
I wrote a book on Luke Perry

\hbecause I wanted to tell
a different kind of story,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat was about
the way a child-- a teenager--

can latch onto a character-

\h\h\h\h\h\ha man like that,
like, early in their career,

\h\h\h\h\hand grow up
alongside that person.

\h\hYou know, it’s like,
part of the book, for me,

is about growing up,

and about healing
\hcertain wounds.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hMy dad was
an Episcopalian minister,

and Grace Church was supposed
\h\h\h\hto be the last stop,

and then he got sick with cancer

\h\h\ha couple years
after we moved here.

For the most part,

it was myself, and my mom,
\h\h\h\h\hand my brothers,

um, you know, helping out,

doing everything for him.

By the time I was 14,

and 90210 was coming on,

\h\h\h\hum, you know, he was
in the last year of his life,

and I was especially
\hwanting to escape,

and Beverly Hills 90210

was like Escape Island
\h\h\h\h\hNumber One.

You know, the moment
\hI saw Luke Perry,

that was the character for me.

\h\h\h\h\hRight away,
when the show debuted,

people were comparing Luke
\h\h\h\h\h\hto James Dean.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hThey did have
a certain something in common.

You know, not just
\hthe physicality,

\h\hyou know, both being, like,
lithe, you know, slim, trim men,

but also, this kind of, uh,
\h\hwoundedness, you know?

Always, in their performances,

was this real, like,
\h\hkind of pathos,

but, at the same time,
\h\h\h\hLuke, himself,

had a lot of trepidation
around that comparison.

I think that, sort of,
\h\h\h\h\h\hin a way,

if they make the association
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hstrong enough,

I’ll have to pay the price
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor the fact

that he checked out early.

I think when I can
no longer fulfill

that James Dean fantasy
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor them,

they’ll look and get it
\h\hfrom someone else,

and I’ll be gone.

\hI used to fly around
quite a bit, you know?

\h\hI took a lot of
unnecessary chances

on the highways.

He knew when to lean into it,

he knew how to be smart with it,

and play with it,

\h\h\h\h\h\hbut he also was
a little bit spooked by it.

[Baldwin] Planet Hollywood,
to begin, was restaurants,

and you have to remember

this was when "event celebrity"

was different than it is today.

\hWhen Sly, and Bruce,
and, uh, Schwarzenegger

\h\h\hcome to your town
to launch a restaurant,

you’re coming.

[♪]

It’s a hot place.

These Planet Hollywood openings
were extraordinary.

Um, they were going
just wild for him,

like, just wild.

[crowd screaming]

\h[Baldwin] Luke, again, was
a burning fire at that time.

10,000 people would be outside,

\h\h\h\h\hand you’d have Sly,
you’d have the famous people,

blah, blah, blah.

When Luke Perry...

\h\h\hIt was mass...
freak-daddy hysteria.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt’s a party
like you’ve never seen before.

[crowd cheering and clamoring]

It’s wonderful!
I’m from France.

I’m so happy to see him!

I think that comes from,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hback then,

not just Brad Pitt good looks.

\hIt comes from the people
being your fans, you know?

Luke had that love.

\h[fan screaming]
I love you, Luke!

[Perry] I love you, too!

\h\h\h\h\h[Santina Muha]
When I was a little girl,

I had two next-door neighbors
\h\hthat were older than me,

and they were so cool,

so anything they told me
to watch, or do, I did.

So they came over one day,
\h\h\hand they were, like,

\h"You have to watch
this new show, 90210.

It has this guy,
Jason Priestley,

and he’s so hot."

I’m, like, "Okay,"

’cause I was boy crazy,
\h\h\ha boy-crazy girl,

and, um, so the show comes on,
\h\h\hand the credits come on,

and there’s Jason Priestley,

and I’m, like, "He’s hot.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hCorrect,"

but then Luke came on,

and I love Jason, I love Jason,

but Luke just... [gasping]
\h\h\htook my breath away.

I was, like, "Who is that?"

I mean, truly, maybe why

I potentially believe in
\h\hlove at first sight.

\h\h\h\h\h\hSo Luke just surfed
onto my screen, and that was it,

and that was my number one crush
to this day,

\h\h\h\hand then, to find out
he was also kind of a bad boy,

but he was also, like, a poet,

and sort of tortured soul,

\h\h\h\h\hand then, I mean,
the first time we meet him,

he’s defending the little guy,

and so, he’s not a jerk,

he’s just got a little bit
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof an edge.

This was appointment television,
as they used to call it.

Like, you had to sit
in front of the TV,

at that time,

and we would get on the phone,

and we would be silent during,

and then during the commercial,

"Oh, my god. Blah, blah, blah.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hThis and that.

Oh, my god, he’s so hot,"

and then "It’s back on, shh!"

We’re watching, in silence,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hon the phone.

You know, you hold it like this.

\h\hI mean, I still sort of
lean this way a little bit,

and I think it’s from the phones
in the ’90s.

I remember there was Luke,

\hand, uh, Jason,
and whoever else,

they were doing an appearance
\h\h\h\hat the Freehold Mall,

\hwhich was not far
from where I lived,

and I begged my mom to take me,

and she was, like, "No way!"

Because I was recently injured,

so I’m in a wheelchair,

and she’s, like, "I’m not taking
you to the mall

\h\h\hwhere these cast members
are like The Beatles right now,

and everyone’s, like,
bombarding the stage.

I’m, like, "I hate you!"

\hYou know, I pulled
a full Brenda on her,

\h\h\h\hand was mad at her
forever and ever about it.

Did not forgive her for years,
\h\h\h\hand years, and years.

[interviewer] Do you enjoy
\h\h\hbeing a sex symbol?

God, you know,

I don’t think of myself
as being a sex symbol,

for starters.

If I am...

it’s okay.

[Priestley] That morning,

\h\h\h\h\h\hwhen we shot
that Rolling Stone cover,

Luke and I were pretty hungover

because we’d been out
\h\hthe night before,

but Shannon was in good shape,

and we were amazed

that we were getting the honor

\h\hof being on the cover
of Rolling Stone magazine.

It was a big deal.

\h\h\h\h\h\hWe both understood
the importance of it, for sure.

At a certain point on the show,

like around the, I don’t know,
\h\h\hsecond or third season,

he became obsessed

with being on the cover
of Vanity Fair magazine,

\h\hbecause he knew that
that would legitimize him

in a--in a certain way,

and I was, like, "Really?
\h\h\h\h\h\hVanity Fair?"

You know, because, to me,

\hVanity Fair was something
that old people read, right,

but that’s exactly
\h\hwhy he did it,

and he was super smart
\h\h\h\h\hin that way.

[Wappler] Luke is, arguably,

the most famous player
\h\h\h\hfrom the show.

\h\h\h\h\h\hHe’s definitely
getting the most attention.

Uh, people are really
\h\h\h\hnoticing him,

talking about him.

Unlike the Rolling Stone cover
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat they did,

where it’s Shannon,
\hJason, and Luke,

\h\hthis is really
zeroing in on Luke,

and, you know, he’s shirtless,

and got these pistols, sort of,
like, slung in his jeans,

and it’s real sexy-cowboy time.

\h\h\hYeah, he sort of bites
the hand that’s feeding him,

in a sense.

Like, he doesn’t go
\h\h\has far to say

that 90210 is shlock,
\h\h\h\hor anything,

but he does sort of wink
\h\h\ha bit at his fame,

make fun of it even.

You know, at one point he says,
"I am product!"

\h\h\h\h\h\h[Priestley]
That Vanity Fair article

\h\h\h\h\hdidn’t focus
on Beverly Hills 90210,

\hand it focused a lot more
on who Luke was as a person.

I think Luke understood
\h\h\h\hthe importance

of letting the world know

\h\h\h\h\hthat he was more
than just this Dylan McKay.

\hHe and I were both
very conscious of it,

and we talked about it a lot.

Like, how to distance yourself

from a super successful show
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike that,

and how difficult
\hit was, right?

\h\h\hAnd how difficult it was
gonna be for us in the future.

\h\h\h\h\h\hI think that
that Vanity Fair article

did a lot to help Luke
\h\hstart to separate.

There was a fundamental divide

between who did movies
and who did television.

These were TV guys doing TV,

doing really well with TV,

but longing for something else,

\h\h\hand these young actors
all wanted to be "that guy",

\h\h\h\h\hand-- who knew
who "that guy" would be?

[Perry] 10, 15 years from now,

I would like to see myself
\h\h\hin a place that, uh,

is far away from here.
\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughing]

\h\h\hIt’s, uh, quiet,
and country, and, uh...

there are no flashbulbs.

We talked about the fact

that he wanted to leave
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe show,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\huh, and of course
at that point in time, you know,

we all--we all signed
five-year contracts,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand, uh,
Aaron didn’t renegotiate

\h\h\hbefore the end
of your fifth season.

\h\h\hUm, and so Luke started
talking about leaving the show

in the fifth season,

and I said, "Luke, dude,

\h\h\hwe’re just about
to start making money.

You can’t leave right now.

Like, this is--

\h\hIt’s about to start
getting good over here,

and all the hard work’s
\h\h\h\hgonna pay off."

He was, like, "No, dude,
I gotta go, I gotta go.

I know, I understand,
\h\hbut I gotta go."

I was, like, "Bro, you’re...

Uh, okay."

[news reporter] Luke Perry,

\h\h\h\hwho plays Dylan
on Beverly Hills 90210,

will reportedly be bumped off
in the season’s sixth episode.

We reported earlier

that Perry plans to pursue
\h\h\h\h\ha movie career,

\h\h\h\hand wanted out
of the popular TV show.

Fox says it can’t confirm
\h\h\hor deny the story."

I still can’t believe it, man.

You, getting married.

Better get used to it, Brando.

I got a new life.

[Priestley] So I directed
\h\hLuke’s last episode,

and it was, you know,
\h\hemotional for me,

\hbecause my friend
was leaving, right?

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hLuke’s character
and Rebecca Gayheart’s character

\h\hare getting ready
to get married, and--

but her father, who’s a mobster,

\h\h\h\h\hdoesn’t like--
doesn’t like Dylan McKay,

\h\h\hand doesn’t think he’s
good enough for his daughter.

He takes out a hit
\hon Dylan McKay,

and unfortunately, the hitman
\h\h\hkills the wrong person.

I knew this was a big moment
\h\h\h\hfor Luke, and so I--

You know, I got rain towers
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hout there,

and lit it up so it would look
super dramatic, and anyway...

Luke comes to me, and he says,
\h\h\h"I wanna do this thing.

I wanna fall to my knees,
\hand look up at the sky,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand ask God
why he’s done this to me,"

\hand I, you know, and it was
another time where I was like,

"Ooh, that’s a big choice.

That’s a--That’s a risk,
\h\hbrother, but okay,"

and he, uh, and he comes out,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand he does it.

It turned out to be
\hreally effective

\hjust because--just because
he was emotionally connected

to what was happening.

\h\hHe wasn’t afraid
to make big choices.

...think it was a carjacking.

[Dylan screaming] No, god!

Brandon!

Oh, baby!

Oh, my god! [screaming]

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hLook what
they did to her, Brandon!

[sobbing]

\h\h\h\h\h\h[Priestley]
When Luke left the show,

it was really hard--

Luke was my brother--

and I think it was hard
on everybody else, too,

’cause Luke had really,
really deep connections

with everybody on--
\h\h\hon the show.

Everybody on the set.

\h\h\h\h\h\hOur crew, too,
like, you know, Luke was--

He was a really good friend
\h\h\h\hto a lot of people.

You know, I also understood
\h\hwhy he wanted to do it.

He had a lot of creative drive
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hinside him,

and he wanted to do more.

He wanted to do more.

The early ’90s in show business

was absolutely fantastic.

A lot of actors our age,
\h\h\hin town, you know,

just kind of know each other,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand, uh,
would socialize together.

We became friends,

and he was getting ready

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto shoot this
Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie.

He was so excited about it.

-Could I describe this movie?
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h-Would you?

Not in a thousand words
or less, certainly not.

Um, it’s, um, it’s a comedy,

it’s a love story, it’s scary.

\h\h\h\h\hIt’s, uh... we shoot
the whole damn thing at night,

so it’s dark,

and, um, it’s funny...

He was, like, "Swanny!

You gotta read this script.

You have to read this script.

Like, you would be
the perfect Buffy,

trust me on this."

I was, like, "Okay..."

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hBut of course,
I had to go through the process

of, you know, auditioning,

but he had my back
\hthe entire time,

and he knew me personally,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,

so he saw that humor that I had,

and that I could bring
\h\h\h\h\hto the film.

I play Pike,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand Pike
is the damsel in distress

in the movie here, you know?

\h\hHe’s, like... So we did
the big role reversal thing,

and Swanson’s the hero...

He loved the fact

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat the girl
was kicking ass in the movie.

\hThat’s what he loved
about the script, so...

’Cause I remember him
\h\hselling me on it,

like, when he was telling me
\h\h\h\h\h\habout the story.

He was, like, "Oh, my god,
\h\h\h\h\hand she’s funny,

and she’s kicking ass
\h\h\hall the time."

[panting]

-Hi.
-Hi.

He loved all the stunts
\h\h\hthat I got to do,

and he would always,
always cheer me on,

always.

Like a cheerleader,

like a mascot, in a way.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughing]

\h\h\h"Oh, Swanny,
that kick was high!

Oh, my god!" You know?

\h\h\h\h\hLike, he’d be, like,
"Damn! Look at that side kick!"

And he loved playing that guy

\h\h\hthat was, like,
"Okay, do your thing.

Go do your thing," you know?

"Go be you, go kick ass,"
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know?

Luke always had my back
\h\h\h\h\h\hon the set.

Whatever it could be,
at any given moment,

\h\h\h\hhe was always
a shoulder to cry on,

someone to pat you on the back,

or someone to tell you,
\h\h\h\h\h"Get over it,

get out there and do it."

You know what I mean?
Like, he was that guy.

Even after the movie,
\halways supportive,

of my life, of my career,

him having children,

me getting married,
\hhaving children,

you know, like, staying in touch
with each other.

I am...

so grateful that...

he had a vision,

and he saw me in that role,

and I will never forget that.

[♪]

\h\h\h\h[Priestley] Because of
the level of fame that he had,

he figured out that he would
\hbe able to get to people.

\h\hHe could call their office
and they would return his call,

no matter who it was,

and that’s how he got
\h\h\h8 Seconds made.

\hHe bought the rights
to Lane Frost’s story,

and he called Mike De Luca,

\h\h\h\hwho was the head
of New Line at the time.

Like, nobody just calls
\h\h\h\h\hMike De Luca,

but Luke just called his office,

\h\h\h\h\hand was, like,
"Hey, I’ve got a project.

\h\hI wanna come in
and pitch it to ya,"

and De Luca was, like,
\h\h\h\h\h"Uh, okay."

I know that 8 Seconds
was a passion of his,

to make that movie,

and he knew the family,

and I know that the studio
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpromised him

that they would make that film,

\h\hbut they just wanted
to get Buffy done first.

\h[news report] That first
big role for a young actor

is very important,

\h\h\hbut sometimes,
even more important,

is that second big part.

\h\h\hFor actor Luke Perry,
star of Beverly Hills 90210,

the role of Lane Frost,

his second big part,

might be the door opener

for a long and successful
\h\h\h\h\h\hfilm career.

\hIf you’ve never seen
bull-riding at a rodeo,

you don’t know,

but they are, you know,
\h\h\h\h\h2,000-pound,

angry, wild animals

that don’t give a [bleep]
\h\hif they step on you,

if they hook you
with their horns

and throw you out of the ring.

They’re terrifying.

And Luke told me--

he was, like, "Yeah, dude,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’m gonna--

I’m going out to Riverside
\h\h\h\h\h\hthis weekend.

I’m gonna ride a bull."

I was, like, "What?

Dude, you’re not a bull-rider!

What are you doing?"

[Baldwin] I’d never hung out
\h\h\h\hwith Luke that much.

We kinda knew each other,

but we’re friendly, kind of,
\h\h\h\hwithin the industry,

and I get this phone call,
\h\h\h\h\h\hlike, random.

And I answer, and he goes,
\h\h\h\h"Hello, Baldwin?"

\h\h\h\hand I go, "Yeah?"
He says, uh, "Luke Perry."

"Oh, hey, man."

\hHe goes, "Hey, man, uh,
I’ve got this thing going.

It’s this rodeo movie.

We got to get together,

we’ve got to talk about it,"

and I’m going... [chuckling]

"Okay, Luke.

Are you calling me to say
you want to make a movie,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand you and I
are gonna really ride bulls?"

and he’s, like, "Yeah.

I’m calling you to say
\hI’m making a movie,

\h\h\h\h\h\hand if you say yes,
we’re really gonna ride bulls,"

and I’m, like...

This is Luke Perry, right?

Like, you know what I mean,
\h\h\h\h\hhe’s cute, but...

He’s-- I think he’s-- you know,
he’s gotta be, like, kidding.

\h\h\h\h\h[Priestley]
Luke was bull-riding.

No messing around.

They couldn’t afford
\h\h\h10,000 extras,

so he had to really go
\h\h\h\h\h\hto rodeos,

and get on real bulls,

and try to hang on.

Okay, boys!

All right!

[♪]

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Baldwin]
I never got to know Luke

until we did the movie.

\h\h\h\hTo get to know him
as an artist, and an actor,

\h\h\h\h\hand kinda see a guy
who really was taking a risk.

This was not a joke.

\h\h\h\hThis was, like,
a serious feature film.

\h\h\h\h\hHe was considered
a handsome television star.

\h\h\h\h[interviewer]
I was really impressed

at how this film didn’t, uh,

gloss over the rough spots
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hin his life.

\h\h\hYeah, that was
very important to me

that we not do that,

\hbecause, to me,
that’s the story.

I mean, that’s an integral part
of the story.

\h\hUh, a lot of times,
people are very envious

because it looks real good
\h\h\h\h\hto be the champ,

but, you know, you got to make
some sacrifices to get there,

and you gotta make some
\h\h\h\hto stay on top,

and it is paying the price
\h\h\hfor those sacrifices

that’s often very painful.

That’s my favorite part of,
\h\hyou know, knowing Luke,

\h\h\h\h\h\hand having
been friends with him,

was that he was that real deal
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\has an actor.

\h\hYou know, he wanted
to live the experience.

He wanted to create
\h\hthe character.

He wanted to live that thrill,

and then, Luke, himself

was, you know, a cowboy
\h\h\hin his own right.

[Perry] I think it’s important
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor the audience

to experience the danger,

and if they don’t sense

the danger of Lane Frost
\h\h\h\hbeing on a bull,

they will sense the danger

of Luke Perry getting ready
to get his head stomped in,

and, uh, if they see

that it’s actually me on there
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hcoming out,

then I think it--

\hit makes a lot of other
elements in the film work.

[Baldwin] If you asked me,

kinda being the youngest,

rough and tumble
Baldwin brother--

macho, competitive--

did I think Luke Perry
\h\h\hwas a tough guy?

No.

Not before I met him.

But what was cool about him
was he was a little crazy.

He had this little bit of nuts.

\h\h\hThat little bit of nuts
is why Paul Newman raced cars.

I think his fire was the cowboy,

so the opportunity
\hto transfer that

into the greatest bull-rider
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hof all time,

who also was...

\h\h\h\h\hconsidered to be one
of the humblest, kindest guys--

Lane Frost--

How do you play the balls
\h\hof that fearlessness,

\h\hand the niceness
of that sensitivity?

That’s a fricking
hard role to play.

He was like a Newman.

He was like a Redford, too,

but he was more like--

and I love you, bro!

--but he was more like, uh,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha James Dean,

\h\h\h\hbecause James Dean
was so smokingly attractive

when he went sensitive,

\h\h\h\hLuke also understood
how to do that, as an actor,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwhich is hard
when you’re so good-looking.

\hFor some reason,
the AD said to me,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlike, after
the second day of shooting,

he says, "Hey, man,

you know, we’re gonna just
send one car in the morning

just to pick you and Luke up,

instead of just two cars,

’cause you’re going
to the same place,

we’re just gonna make it
\h\heasier for transpo."

I go, "Yeah, man. Cool, yeah,"

\h\h\h\hso the next morning,
I get in this car with Luke,

and we get on the freeway,

and Luke goes...

...and the driver gets off
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthis exit,

and right off the exit
\h\h\h\h\his a crane,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\ha huge crane,
going about four stories up,

with a bungee jump
\hattached to it,

so, he goes, "Come on."

I go, "What are you doing?"

He goes, "Bungee jump, bro.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hLet’s go."

"Bro, we’re gonna
get in trouble."

He goes... [whispering]
"Nobody’s gonna know."

My hair’s standing up on my arm
doing it right now,

and that’s the Luke
\h\hI got to know.

This is the first time
I’m telling this story.

\hWe did a bungee jump
on the way to the set,

every day for seven days.

We were jacked on adrenaline
\hby the time we got there.

We were ready to ride bulls.

8 Seconds is considered to be

\h\hin the top 10 greatest
rodeo pictures of all time.

\h\h\h\h\hDo you know how many
rodeo pictures have been made?

\hHe’s the John Wayne
of bull-riding movies,

Luke Perry.

[Priestley] He really connected

to that, sort of, you know,
\h\h\h\hWestern community,

\h\h\hand, um, and he bought
a piece of land in Tennessee,

and started working the land,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand, you know,

and started taking
a lot more roles,

\h\h\h\hlike, sort of
Western roles, right?

Like, I think making 8 Seconds
\h\h\h\h\hreally changed him,

and changed the trajectory
\h\h\h\h\h\hof his career.

When Luke got the script
\h\h\h\hfor Normal Life,

he was super excited
by the opportunity,

\h\hbecause he really wanted
to work with John McNaughton.

\h\h\hHe saw that movie
as a great opportunity,

and a great opportunity
to distance himself more

from Dylan McKay

\h\h\h\hand from, you know,
being a teenage heartthrob.

[Steven A. Jones] John and I
were both fascinated with--

the popular term is "outliers",

but, you know, "criminals"

\h\his a-- [chuckling]
--a better term for it.

Fascinated with people

that didn’t take
the normal path,

\h\h\h\h\hand had to find
some other way to get by,

and because we both have

quite the perverse
\hsense of humor,

and perverse attitude
towards many things,

the trickier

and more, you know, criminal,
in a lot of ways, they were,

\h\h\h\hthe more interesting
those characters were to us.

\h\h\h\h[news reporter]
Till death do they part

may have been their vow,

\h\h\h\h\h\hbut at the time
of their capture, at least,

\h\h\hJeff Erickson
seemed more inclined

to part from his wife
\hthan die with her.

The end came

after two-and-a-half years
of unsolved bank robberies

in the northwest suburbs.

The so-called "bearded bandit",

\h\h\h\h\h\hwith the disguise
of several layers of clothing,

\h\hfacial hair,
and heavy gloves,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hstuff, which,
along with a police scanner,

\h\hwere reportedly found
in the bullet-riddled van

December 16th.

This story was big news
\h\h\h\h\h\hin Chicago.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIn fact,
we would see them on the news

robbing banks

because, you know,
security cameras.

They would come in,

and at first it was just him,

uh, and he would--

wearing a fake beard
\h\hand a Cubs hat.

and then his wife,

who had mental issues,

uh, she was kind of
\ha thrill-seeker,

\h\h\h\hand she found out
that he was robbing banks

because they were going broke,

and she loved the idea,
and wanted to go with,

and she did,

and then they both went down
\h\h\h\h\hin huge gunfights,

and died,

and it was pretty intense.

The movie, Normal Life,
\h\h\hhad fallen apart,

and, uh, we couldn’t get anybody

to put any money into it,

\h\h\h\hand then we got a call
from the William Morris Agency,

and they had just taken Luke on
as a client,

and they said, "We hear
you’re doing this movie,

\hand we’ll raise the money
for you to make this movie,"

and, uh, I said,

"Well, I don’t know,

you know, we’re really specific
about our casting,"

and they went to
a rental store,

rented a cassette of the--
\h\h\hof the rodeo movie,

Eight and a Half Seconds--

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hFedExed me
a rental video cassette,

and I walked it over
\h\hto John’s house

and put it in his VHS machine,

and said, "Well, you know,
\hthis guy will be great."

I was never a huge 90210 fan,

and to me, it was, like,

\h\h\h\h\h"What’s some
teenage heartthrob..."

It’s just, like, you know...

I don’t...

But a lesson I have learned--

always meet the person,
because you never know.

We sat down, and Luke sat down,

\hand of course, everybody knew
who Luke Perry was, in the room,

uh, but Luke was so, uh,
\hvery unaffected by it,

and very down to earth,

\h\hand, uh, even though
Luke was a big celebrity,

he didn’t act like
\ha big celebrity.

He acted like a human being,

\h\hand, uh, I just
changed my opinion.

I said, "This guy’s great,

and let’s go!"

The locations for Normal Life

\hwas all that area
out by the airport,

which is where the real story
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\htook place.

\h\hIt was all built
in the post-war era,

and, uh, suburban sprawl.

\h\h\h[Jones] And we walk
into this bank with Luke,

and this guy comes up to us,

\h\h\h\h\h\hand goes, "Oh, so
what are you doing?" you know,

\hand we’re, like, uh,
"We’re shooting a movie

about these guys,
\hthe Ericksons,"

\h\h\h\h\hand he goes,
"He robbed this bank,"

and I said--

And Luke was standing
\h\hright-right here.

I said, "He robbed this bank?"

He goes, "Yeah, yeah,
he robbed this bank,"

and he goes over to the drawer,

and he pulls out a photograph
\h\hof Erickson in his getup

that nobody had ever seen.

He goes, "Yeah, I was there,"

and I said, "Sir?"
\h\h\h\h\h"Yeah?"

I said, "What was it like?"

He goes, "He just came in
\h\h\hscreaming profanity

at the top of his lungs,"

and I looked over at Luke,

\h\h\h\h\h\hand he’s, like,
"Yeah, I got it." [laughing]

[bleep] And I mean now!

Nobody move!

Gimme that [bleep] gun!

\hNobody move.
Get over there!

Lay down on the floor!
\h\h\h\h\h\hYou, too!

[screaming] Lay down!

\hI mean, both of
their performances

are astounding in my--
\h\h\h\hin my opinion,

but Luke’s, in particular,

just for--for the calmness
\h\h\h\h\h\hof most of it.

He-- his had to all be
\h\hin here, you know?

\h\h\h\h\hIs this the way
you want to play it, Pam?

You don’t want to live anymore,

I don’t want to live anymore,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\heither.

So we’re shooting the movie,

\h\h\h\hand we’re probably
most of the way through it,

and we said, "Luke, uh,

you know, we never saw 90210,

not one second of it,"

and he just stared at us
\h\h\h\h\hfor a second,

and he goes,

\h\h\h\h\h"Do you understand
how hard I was trying to work

so that you would forget
\h\habout my TV career?"

and I said, "No, you had us
from the word go. [laughing]

You came in completely,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,

completely unblemished.

\h\h\hWe were just looking
at your work, and it was--

it’s so incredible
that we’re good."

When we got it all finished,

uh, they were gonna test it,

and they tested it in--

\h\hit was actually
a suburb of Oakland,

and when you test a movie,

you go find an audience,

and the way you do it,
\h\h\his you ask them

\h\h\h\habout some other
specific kinds of movies,

\h\h\h\h\hand they-- I--
they asked the audience,

"How would you like to see
\h\h\ha Luke Perry movie?"

Well, the audience didn’t--

They thought that, "Oh, 90210,
\h\h\h\h\hit’s gonna be this--

that kind of a movie."

\h\h\hThe selected audience
that they put in those seats

hated the movie,

because they were--

they felt they were lead
down a-- the wrong path,

\h\hand then they wouldn’t
put it out in the theatres.

\hIt was awful for me,
it was worse for John.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[McNaughton]
So, New Line just, you know,

I think they released it
in some small amount of--

\h\h\hI don’t think it was even
in major city just to speak of.

Then, I was angry.

Now... it’s the breaks.

I think Luke, you know,
\hhe became such a pro.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hIt just, like,
this is the way of the world.

\h\h\h\h\hI mean, you could--
Now, it’s just, like, well...

if you get lucky, say a prayer,

but if not, "Moving on."
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"Next."

You keep working.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hAny time
you’re a teen heartthrob,

\h\h\heveryone just assumes
that you’re a [bleep] actor.

You’re just a--You’re just
a good-looking kid, right?

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI think
that was a lot to overcome,

\hbut Luke, you know,
never stopped trying.

[Perry] I have had the chance

\h\h\h\hto work with, uh,
filmmakers that I respect,

and do the kind of work
\h\hthat I want to do,

and it’s just a matter of time.

You know, you play
a number of parts,

and then after a while,

people don’t really connect you
with one-one thing anymore,

\h\h\h\h\hbut, um, you know,
I was always very clear on--

on what the show did for me,

and what I did for it.

I just felt it was time for me
\h\h\h\h\hto play other stuff.

[Winters] There’s a casting
director named Alexa Fogel.

\hShe calls me one day,
and she goes, "Listen,"

she goes, "I have this actor
\h\h\h\h\hcoming into town,

\h\h\h\h\hand he doesn’t have
a lot of friends in New York,

\h\hand he needs--
he needs a buddy."

\h\hI’m, like, who is it?"
and she goes, "Luke Perry."

I was, like, "Really?"

and then I was, like, "Okay."

\h\h\h\h\h\hI showed up,
and, you know, Luke had--

He always had a baseball cap on,

and we started talking, and--

I don’t take people on
\h\h\h\h\hvery easily,

but, like, he was just a--
\h\ha really genuine soul,

and he was extremely humble.

You know, I didn’t really
bring him around my crew

at first.

Um, I wanted to, like,

really just kinda
get to know him,

and kinda ease him into it,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know?

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hBecause New York
was a whole new thing for him.

We became very close, very fast.

I was doing this show called Oz,

and he had held this back
\h\h\h\h\h\hfor a while,

but he goes, "All I wanna do is,

\h\h\hI wanna be a part
of something like that."

He goes, "I need to shed,
\h\h\h\hyou know, Dylan,

you know, that whole image."

\h\h[Tom Fontana] Dean Winters
is truly the king of New York.

He knows everybody,
\hgoes everywhere.

Can get into any place
he wants to get into,

so I met Luke through Dean,

and he said to me,

"Do you think you could
\hwrite a part for me?"

and I said, "Absolutely."

\h\h\hFirst of all,
I wanted to explore

that Christian community
\hthat exists in prison.

Second of all,

because I wanted the character

\h\h\hto be an incredibly
successful, uh, preacher,

I wanted to make sure
\hthat I had somebody

who--who brought with him
\h\h\h\h\ha kind of fame,

as opposed to hiring
\han unknown actor,

and then having to convince
the audience he was famous,

you hire Luke Perry,
\h\h\h\hand you’re--

\hyou already got
half the job done.

He’s so honest in his acting,

that I knew he would be genuine.

He wouldn’t, like,
mock the character.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe’d just be
who the guy was supposed to be.

\h\h\hThe tension between
the different communities

that made up, uh, Oz,

was always a great place
to start a new character,

because they don’t know,

and when a character
\h\h\hdoesn’t know,

like, Luke didn’t know

when he first met
Vern Schillinger,

he has to discover very quickly
what the rules are.

\h\h\hLet him who suffer
take away your suffering.

Get your [bleep] hand off me.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Fontana]
Once he came onto the set,

he was very much committed
\h\h\h\hto the character,

and Luke disappeared
\hin a lot of ways.

\hWhen I talked to Luke
about being on the show,

I said to him, "You know,

the thing about being
\h\h\hin Emerald City

is, when there are
\h\hgroup scenes,

\hall the actors
have to be there,

even if they have no dialogue,

and if that’s a problem
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor you,

then you shouldn’t do this,"

and he said, "I have no--

absolutely no problem
\h\h\h\h\hwith that,"

and I would see him
\hwith the other--

\h\h\h\hwith the extras
playing the Christians,

and I would see them gathered,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hpraying,

without being told to do that.

He just--He just said,
"Look, we’re, you know,

the scene’s gonna--
let’s, let’s pray,"

\h\h\h\h\hand I just thought
that was wonderful, you know,

that he was creating
\h\hwithin the space

\h\hthe world that he thought
that character would motivate.

And I remember, like,

I wasn’t really working
\h\h\hin those scenes,

\h\h\hbut I remember
I went to watch him,

and I was just, like, "[bleep]
\h\hthis guy’s [bleep] good!"

He had enveloped his character.

He became Jeremiah Cloutier.

So, the first day of filming
\h\h\h\h\hwith Luke, we’re--

There was a part of the prison
\h\h\h\hcalled M-City, right?

Um, and there’s a scene

where Luke walks from his cell
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto the showers,

and to get there,

he’s gotta walk through,
like, a hundred extras,

and, um, he’s-- we’re talking
\h\h\h\h\hthe Hell’s Angels,

\h\hBloods, Crips,
Latin Kings, right?

\h\hAnd then the core--
and then the core cast,

\h\h\hand so, Luke is walking
from his cell to the showers.

\h\h\h\h\hHe has a towel
around his waist, right?

And people--people,
as he’s coming out,

people were, like...

\h\h\h\h\hyou could see
people were registering

\h\hthat they knew
who he was, right?

They’re, like--they’re, like,
"Is that [bleep] Luke Perry?"

And I’m just looking around,
because no one really knew,

\h\h\h\h\h\hand as he’s--
walks out to the showers,

he just drops his towel,

and he’s fully naked,

fully naked,

I’m getting chills
\h\htelling this.

[prisoners hollering]

-Whoa-ho!
-Oh, man!

Yo, minister, baby!

[wolf whistles and shouting]

[prisoners shouting]

\h\h\h\hAnd everyone
just starts clapping,

\h\h\h\hbecause they knew
that he was now, in that--

what he did in that moment

was... he’s, like, "All right,
\h\hI’m one of you guys, now.

\h\h\h\h\hI’m not some guy
that just came from 90210,

who’s not gonna do
\hthe hard stuff,"

and from that moment on,

he was just, like,
part of the family.

\hOn Friday night,
we would all go out

to this place called The Hog Pit
for drinks,

and I go looking for him
at, like, 7:00 at night,

and I can’t find him,

\hand so, I asked
one of the P.A.s.

I said, "Hey, do you know
\h\h\h\h\hwhere Luke is?"

\h\h\h\h\hShe’s, like,
"Oh, he’s on the roof."

I go, "The roof?"
I go, "What roof?"

She’s, like, "Yeah, you climb
\h\h\h\hthat ladder up there,

and then you get to the roof."

\h\hI go, "I’ve been working
on this show for four years,

\hI didn’t know you could go
to the [bleep] roof," right?

So I climb this little ladder,

\h\hgo through, like,
a manhole to the roof,

\h\hand I get up there,
and it’s sunset, right?

And it’s sunset over New Jersey,
over the Hudson River,

and the sun is dipping.

All I can see is Luke,

uh, sitting on, like, a little,
you know, piece of scaffolding,

and I didn’t call his name,

\h\h’cause I felt like
he was having a moment,

and I walked up to him,

and I sat down next to him,

and... [clearing throat]

and I saw he was crying,

and it was...

and I just looked at him,

and I looked at the sunset,

and he was still crying,

\h\h\h\h\hand I--and I said--
I said, "Luke, are you okay?"

And he goes, "Brother,"

\hhe goes, "This might be
the best day of my life,"

and I didn’t say another word.

\h\hWe just watched
the sunset together,

and then when it got dark,
\h\h\hwe went downstairs,

and we joined the cast,
\hyou know, at the bar,

but he told me, he’s like,

he goes-he goes,

\h\h\h\h"I’ve been waiting
for an experience like this

since I became an actor."

You want your work

to kind of match the evolution
\hof who you are as a person.

\h\h\h\hHe wanted to get
something off his chest.

"I’m not Dylan anymore, right,

\h\h\h\hand this is
what I have to say,

this is who I am.

I’m someone different."

\h\hAt the stage that Jason
was driving these racecars,

\h\h\hthey didn’t care
it was Jason Priestley

in the cockpit of that car.

\hYou have to be able
to perform the service

at a very high level.

In 2002, I had a big, uh...

I was racing Indy Lights,
\h\hand I had a big crash

in, uh, in Kentucky,

\h\h\h\hand they airlifted me
to the University of Kentucky.

The news broke,

and people were sending
\h\h\h\h\hwell wishes,

and calling to figure out
\h\h\h\hwhat’s going on.

\h\h\h\h\h\hEveryone was trying
to figure out what was going on,

but the first person

who arrived at the hospital
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hto visit me

was Luke.

\h\h\h\h\h\hI got right up
where I could see his face,

and I looked right down
\h\h\h\hinto his eyes,

\h\h\hand I said, "Jason,"
and I talked to him a lot,

and I screamed at him,
and I got really close.

I was so high,

because I was so broken,

\h\h\hand I looked at him,
and I said, "Coy L. Perry.

Thanks for coming, man."
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughing]

\h\h\hI knew that Jay
was gonna be all right

when he said my name,

um, because he said my name

\h\h\h\h\h\has it exists
on my birth certificate.

He didn’t just say,
\h\h\h"Hey, Luke."

\h\hMy girlfriend,
who’s now my wife,

she was, like, "Oh, no,
\h\hsomething’s wrong.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"Something--
He doesn’t recognize Luke.

This is a big deal!"

\h\h\h\hAnd then Luke
had to explain to her

that his real name was Coy.
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[laughing]

He knew that was his job
\h\h\h\h\hat that time--

was to let those people know
\h\h\h\hthat he was still--

had it going,

and that’s how smart he is.

Luke was a great friend

that you could rely on
\h\hto turn up, right?

That was part of his--

That was just part of his ethos.

My relationship with Jason
\h\h\h\h\h\h\his different

\h\hthan any other human being
in the world, though, and we--

\hthat’s the other thing
that he and I know, um...

Different than brothers,

different than family.

We don’t know why it is,
we don’t know how it is.

\h\h\h\hWe just know
that’s how it got to,

and, uh, we’re cool with that.

He’s--he’s a good one
to have on your side.

The fact that he was there,

uh, in Kentucky,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hum, you know,
a day after I had my accident

was, uh, it was, uh,
\hit was remarkable.

\h\h\h\hIt really speaks
to his character, right?

He was just that kind of guy.

[Perry] Jason and I,

\h\h\h\h\hwe were trying
to tell people back then

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthat, you know,
what’s coming to be true now--

we’re gonna do other things

that aren’t gonna be
\h\h\has successful.

You gotta know that.

Everybody is.

\h\h\h\hNot, you know, you don’t
hit a grand slam every time up,

but you also don’t quit
coming up to bat either,

and, uh, that’s the trick.

\hYou gotta keep
coming up to bat,

\hand you hit the ball,
and you do what you do.

I joined Hallmark
as an executive,

and one of my first meetings
\h\h\h\hwas with Luke Perry,

because he had done a movie
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hfor Hallmark

called The Gunfighter’s Pledge,

and Luke loves Westerns.

As it turns out,
I love Westerns.

I grew up watching Bonanza,

and The Wild, Wild West,

and the Virginian,
\hall that stuff,

\h\h\hand we found out
we were both from Ohio,

so we really connected on that.

\h\hUh, mid-westerners
really connect out here

when they find each other.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Priestley]
The John Goodnight movies,

\h\h\h\hit was a concept that
he had written on a legal pad,

on an airplane one night,
\h\h\h\hflying somewhere,

\h\h\h\h\h\hand he took it in
to Barbara Fisher at Hallmark,

and sold it!

The same way he did
\h\hwith 8 Seconds!

He just, like, walked into
\h\han executive’s office,

said, "Hey, I got this idea.
\h\h\h\hWhat do you think?"

[laughing]

\h\h\hAnd he didn’t have to
really convince me too much.

\h\hLuke played a circuit judge
in the wild western territories.

Luke knew the guy to go to,

the ranch to go to,

the guy, you know, Danny Virtue,

who dealt with the horses.

\h\h\h\h\h\hHe just--
He was immersed in it,

but, like so many projects,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hright?

If you have the right name,
\h\h\h\h\h\hthey get made,

\h\h\h\h\hand for us, Luke Perry
was the--was a really good name.

Luke came up with the idea

to have Jason Priestley
\h\h\h\h\hto direct it,

and we thought, "Oh, my god."

\h\h\h\h\h\hFirst of all,
this is PR gold, you know?

But not to mention

\h\h\h\hthat we knew Jason
was a really good director,

but I just wanted to go

and watch the two of them
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\htogether.

[Priestley] Luke called me.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe said, "Jay,
I’m developing this Western.

I want to do it with ya,"

so, I said, uh,

I said, "Hey, great, man,
\h\h\h\hthat’s perfect,"

uh, because Luke and I have been
trying for a long time

\h\hto find, uh, something
to work on together again.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Perry] I have
such a good shorthand with Jay,

and, um, he’s very talented.

He composes a great frame.

He is so close to this script,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand so close
to this character already,

um, because he’s been--

You know, he’s been living
\h\h\hwith this character

for a couple years.

I got to spend two months, uh,

just hanging out with Luke
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hevery day.

He would come with me
\hon location scouts,

and he was super involved,

and, you know, that--
\hI think that movie,

\h\h\h\hand ultimately
that series of movies,

I think was incredibly
\h\himportant to him.

[Perry] As a kid,
\hI’d sit around,

\h\h\hand I’d watch
all these Westerns,

\h\h\h\hand I just thought,
"Well, I’d love to do that,

and I’d love to do that,"

\h\hand now I just, sort of,
find myself drawn to stories

that will allow me
\hto get involved

in the action sequences
\h\h\h\h\hof my dreams.

[screaming]

[gunshot blasting]

Who the hell are you?

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hMy name’s
John William Goodnight.

I’m a circuit judge.

Sworn jurisdiction
in this territory.

There’s two of us
\hand one of you.

I like those odds.

\h\hWhen I drop this hammer,
one of you is gonna be dead.

There’s a 50/50 chance
\h\h\h\h\hthat’s you.

\h\h\hYou still like
those odds, gambler?

[gunshots blasting]

[horse nickering]

[Priestley] John Goodnight
\h\h\h\hwas an alcoholic,

for sure... [laughing]

...and a womanizer, for sure...

[♪]

...and Luke wrote all that
\h\h\hinto the character,

and I think that Luke understood

\h\h\h\hcomplex characters
are just more interesting,

\h\h\h\hand complex characters
are what people want to watch.

\h\h\h\h\h[Barbara Fisher]
I’ve made a lot of movies,

and been in television
\hfor a lot of years,

and I can’t really say

\hthat I became close friends
with the people I worked with,

but something was different
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\habout Luke.

If you connected with him,
\h\h\h\hyou’ve connected,

and when he felt a connection,

he made you his friend.

I mean, I kinda thought, like,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know, we--

\h\hI was an executive,
we got the movies made,

we had a good time,

kinda end of story,

but that’s not what Luke did,

and I didn’t take the lead,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hLuke did.

[horse neighing]

\h\h\h[Wappler] You know, when
I started working on this book,

\h\h\h\h\h\hand reading about
what an amazing Dad Luke was.

You know, Luke had two children.

You know, he made choices
\h\h\h\h\h\hin his career

to be closer to them.

Like, he wouldn’t take
certain jobs or roles,

\hbecause they would take him
too far away from his family,

\hso he really wanted to be
present in his kids’ lives.

That really meant a lot to him.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Priestley]
When Luke and Minnie had Jack,

\h\h\h\h\hI could tell that
it affected him, uh, deeply,

\h\h\hand that, you know,
I think he felt the weight

of, uh, of being a parent,

like we all do.

He couldn’t have been happier.

\h\h\h\hI think he’d wanted
to be a dad for a long time.

\h\h\h\h\hI think being a dad
was something he was proud of.

\hBeing around kids,
um, he really liked.

He had a soft way.

\h\h\h[Swanson] I remember
his kids being very little,

and he’d show you pictures.

He just, he couldn’t stop
\htalking about his kids.

They were his pride and joy.

The first time I met him
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwas 90210,

and I had just moved
from Chicago to L.A.,

and I think I did, like...

maybe three gigs,

and then I got 90210,

and I remember, like, Luke,

I was, like, "That’s Luke--
\h\h\h\hThat’s Luke Perry.

Oh, my god, that’s Luke--

Hi, nice to meet you!"

\h\hAnd, like, just being cool,
"I got it, I got it, I got it."

I think I only did, like,
\h\hone or two episodes,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbut, um, it was
a very, very brief encounter,

and then when I saw Luke again
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hon Riverdale,

\h\h\h\hI was, like,
"Do you remember me?"

\h\h\h\h\hand he’s, like,
"I totally remember you!"

On Riverdale,

we were at the drive-thru,

where our characters remember
\htheir past lives together.

\h\h\h\h\hIn that moment,
it was art imitating life.

You know, I’m having deja-vu.

\h\h\h\h\hYeah, senior year,
we’re here watching Candyman.

God, I hated that movie.

[laughing] You picked it.

I was up there alone
\hwith my daughter,

\hwho was, I think, maybe
eight or nine at the time,

and I hadn’t been to Vancouver,

so, Luke was, like, "Hey,

\h\h\hdo you know about
the little ferry boats?

You can catch them,

and they’ll take you
\hand your daughter,

\h\hand you go over
to Granville Island.

You can shop around."

And I must have looked, like,
\h\ha little, like, confused

about where to go,
\h\hor what to do,

\hand he’s, like,
"You know what...

are you free Saturday?"

And I was, like, "Yeah,"

\h\h\hand he’s, like,
"I’ll take you guys,"

and he got us on the ferry,

\h\h\h\h\h\hand he went
and did the whole thing.

He was just, like, hosting us,

for no reason whatsoever,

except for just to be
\h\h\h\ha great guy.

That’s who Luke was.

\h\h\h[Gabriel Correa]
I think maybe the kids,

maybe KJ told me the story.

You know, it was at the end
\h\h\h\h\h\hof season one,

and they were having
\hsome dinner here,

and I think Luke took that
\h\h\h\h\h\h\has a moment

\h\hto sort of tell them
a little piece of advice,

\hand, you know, he was not
the loudest guy in the room,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hso I can imagine
how he sort of presented this,

\h\hbut say something
to the tune of, like,

"Your lives are about to change.

Like, do you realize that,"

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand, like,
what does that mean, right?

I honestly don’t know
how the kids took it.

I’m sure some, maybe,
\h\h\h\hbelieved him,

some not, um,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbut, you know,
if you think of Luke’s career,

to him, it’s kind of, like,
\h\h\h\h"I’ve seen it all.

I’ve seen the good,
the bad, the ugly,

\h\h\hand I’m here
sort of telling you

that despite what you think
\h\his gonna happen to you,

I lived through it,

and this is the reality."

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Michael Scott]
Well, I think it’s, you know,

he saw himself in them,

-the way he had been--
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h-Yeah.

...you know, back then,

and he wished, I think,

that--that somebody had told him
a little bit of the ropes,

and I think he probably
\hlearned the hard way,

in terms of the challenges
\h\h\hof being, you know,

an ensemble in a series,

\hand some of the politics,
and jockeying for position.

I mean, there’s all kinds
\h\h\h\h\hof other layers

that go on behind the scenes.

That just makes sense to me

that he would want to mentor,

in a fatherly kind of way,
\h\h\h\h\h\hthese people,

\h\h\hthese young--
these young actors,

because I think he was
a real mentoring type.

That’s kind of who he was.

Not everybody’s good at that.

Luke was really good at that.

\h\h\h[Hoda Kotb] Luke,
do you have any advice?

Because sometimes,
\h\hI mean, look,

\h\h\h\heveryone who’s gone
through that, you’ve been--

Yeah, and especially
\h\h\hwith this one,

because he’s so talented,

and such a great actor.

Concentrate on the work,

and play different parts,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know,

and treat everybody well,

and he’s--he’s doing great.

[Correa] I started on Riverdale
as an Assistant Director,

and for people who have no idea
what that is,

you’re like a conductor.

Luke was there,

\h\h\h\h\hand, you know,
he’d pull me to the side,

and he’s, like...

"I see what you’re doing,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hyou know?"

He’s like...

"Next year,

\hI think you should be
directing one of these,

\h\h\h\hbut you just--
you just do your thing,

and it’s gonna happen,"

\h\h\h\h\h\hand then he said--
He said, "We’ll push for it..."

And...

after I got a chance
\h\hto direct there,

I did my first episode.

I had one scene with Luke.

\h\hHe comes to me
after he’s wrapped,

and he’s, like, "Hey...

you’re doing amazing, man.

Like, I see what you’re doing.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hYou’re smart,
you’re getting what you need.

Just don’t think about it.

Just keep breathing.

Do your thing.

Don’t overthink, do your thing.
You’re doing amazing."

100%!

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hWe’re gonna sing
like we’re at karaoke. Like...

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[Correa]
To me, it was very clear

that Luke’s support
was about the work,

and that’s what was really cool,

because he was a pro.

[Young] "All journeys in life
\h\h\h\hstart with one step.

I took a step into your office,

and it was the first step
\hon the trip of my life.

What a ride!

Thanks for believing in me.

Love, Luke Perry."

After Luke was hired,

he came to my office,

and he said, "I have a present--

\hcouple presents
I wanna give you,"

\h\h\h\h\hand I said,
"A magnifying glass?"

\h\h\h\h\h\hHe says,
"Yes, that’s for you

to keep looking
for more people,

and-- like you did,
and you found me,"

and he goes, "And the horseshoe
is for luck in finding them."

[laughing]

[♪]

Could’ve been, like, four years
after I’m living in Los Angeles,

\h\h\h\hsomething happened to me
where I ended up in the hospital

for three months,

\h\h\hand one of my friends
shared a manager with Luke,

so, unbeknownst to me,

she wrote an email
\hto her manager,

\hand was, like, "My friend
is a huge fan of Luke Perry.

\hIs there any way
he could call her,

or send her a ’Get Well’ card?"

\h\hSo, one day, um,
I’m in the hospital,

and I had just had
\h\ha sponge bath,

and I have no makeup on,

I have, like, my--
and my glasses on,

you know, my hair’s
in a French braid.

I basically look like
\h\h\h\hhow I looked

when I was nine years old,
\h\h\h\hwatching the show.

The door opens...

...and I swear to God,

Luke Perry is standing
\h\h\h\h\hat my door,

and he walks in,

and he shuts the door
\h\h\h\h\hbehind him,

and he comes over,

and he, like, hugs me,

and now I’m, like,
crying in his arm,

and then I realize I’m crying
\h\h\h\hin Luke Perry’s arm,

so then I start crying harder,

and then he goes, "It’s okay.

It’s just you and me.

It’s just you and me
\h\h\h\hright now."

\h\h\h[slapping table]
I’m, like, "This guy...

This guy!"

You know, he was so patient
\hwith me and my freakout,

and then, eventually,
\hI collected myself,

and he pulled up a chair,

\h\hand he sat across
from my hospital bed,

and we chatted.

\h\hWe just talked
for, like, an hour,

and it was all so surreal,

\h\hand just a quick note on
be careful what you wish for,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hbecause
I was not wearing sweatpants

the day I met Luke Perry.

I was wearing no pants.

Then he says,

"I’m so glad

your mom didn’t take you
\hto the mall that day,

\h\h\h\h\hbecause that’s not
how we were supposed to meet.

This is how we were
\hsupposed to meet,

\h\h\h\hbecause now
we know each other."

I mean-- and, by the way, also,

now I forgive my mom

\h\hfor not taking me
to the Freehold Mall.

I’ve been in movies, I’ve-

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI’ve done
very, very cool things.

I survived a car crash.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hThis was
the best day of my life.

[♪]

[Winters] He didn’t call me

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwhen he booked
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

I saw it in the trades.

I called him immediately.

I was, like, "You mother--"

I was, like, "I am so [bleep]
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhappy for you,"

because everyone wants to be
\h\h\h\hin a Tarantino film.

Period.

So, I mean, I called him,

\h\h\hand I was, like, "Luke,"
I was like, "This is amazing!"

He’s, like, "I know, brother."

He goes, "Isn’t this crazy?"

\h\h\hHe goes, "I didn’t think
this was ever going to happen."

I go, "How did it happen?"

He goes, "I don’t know."

I met him at the read-through

for Once Upon a Time
\h\h\hin Hollywood.

We, more or less, were two guys

known for their television work,

\h\h\h\hand there we were
surrounded by movie stars,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hso, you know,
immediate sort of connection,

\h\has in, "How about us
hanging out at the table?

How’d we find ourselves here?"

[paparazzi shouting]

[Olyphant] I remember

even Margot Robbie was, like,

\h\h\h\h\h\h"I’ve never been
to a read-through like this,"

and I was just like, "Yeah."

I just remember Quentin,

his respect for Luke,

and how psyched he was
that he was doing it.

\h\h\h\hYou know, he was
in that powder-blue suit,

and I was in the cool red shirt

with the brown leather jacket.

I remember saying to him,

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h"I don’t know
if we got the coolest part,

but we definitely got
the coolest wardrobe,"

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand, you know,
he had that thing that, um...

You know, you’re on a set

and you’re behind a monitor,

and they’re showing you
playback or something,

and even if the take’s fine,

even if it’s really good,

I remember always seeing, like,

when they called "Cut,"

that was the most natural moment
right there, right?

[laughing] Right?

My point being

is my experiences
working with Luke

\h\his you couldn’t
tell the difference.

\h\h\hIt didn’t matter
whether we were rolling

or not rolling,

you’re just talking
\h\hto Luke Perry.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe and I were
sitting across from each other

in that little stagecoach,

and we definitely had
\h\h\hthose moments.

I remember looking at him

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hand saying,
"Look at us, you and me."

And... cut!

You know, Quentin does
\h\h\h\h\hthis thing--

Shooting on film,

it’s the old thing, right?

He wants two takes,
and he’s moving on.

He refers to those two takes

as the big sister
and little sister,

\h\h\h\hso we’re doing
that stagecoach scene,

we did that whole take,

the scene you just showed me,

and Quentin says, you know,

"We have our second sister..."

and so the whole crew
\hstarts to pick up,

knowing that means
\hwe’re moving on,

and then Quentin says,
\h"But you know what?

Let’s do one more,"

and the crew within earshot
\h\h\h\h\hall yell, "Why?"

and then, the crew then,

within further out,

\h\h’cause they heard
everybody yell, "Why?"

\h\h\hall yell, in unison,
at the top of their lungs,

"Because we love making movies!"

And then everybody cheers,

and they go back to one.

\h\h\h\hAnd... [ chuckling]
and I remember that moment,

and I look across at him,

and he pulls up that blue suit,

and he goes--

shows me his arm,

he’s got goosebumps
all over his arm...

[laughing]

\h\h\h\h...and I just thought,
"Yeah, you and me both, buddy,

you and me both. Not bad."

\h\h\h\h\hLeo, you have this
amazing scene with Luke Perry

who plays a TV actor--

See, honey?

\h\h\h\h\h\hI told you
they’d come to parlay.

You all right, honey?

Oh, she’s just fine.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h[DiCaprio]
I was just immediately struck

by his--his kindness.

\hAnd you know, talking about
being a native of Los Angeles,

being around this industry
\h\h\h\h\hmy entire life,

\h\h\hand really having it,
you know, in a lot of ways,

shaped who I am.

\h\h\h\h\h\hI--There was
this immediate excitement

in seeing Luke Perry,
\h\hyou know, on set.

\h\h\h-[chuckling]
-It was incredible.

\hI--I remember being,
you know, in my teens,

\hand he was the manifestation
of the new Dean on television,

\h\h\h\hand everyone
was crazy about him,

\h\h\hand I actu-- I felt
this overwhelming feeling

of kind of being starstruck,

but then he and I
\hgot to sit down

and talk about Los Angeles,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hthe ’90s,

\h\h\hhis life, where he--
where his career had gone,

where my career had gone,

where his life had gone,
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hwhere my--

\h\h\hand I could--
I was just so, um...

how do I say this?

The kindness of his character,

just an incredibly generous
\h\h\h\h\h\h\hhuman being.

\h\h\h\h\h[news reporter]
Family, friends, and fans

are mourning the death
of actor, Luke Perry,

who died this morning
\h\hat the age of 52,

following a massive stroke
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hlast week.

His publicist says
\hhe died in L.A.,

\h\h\h\h\hsurrounded by
his family and friends.

\h[Priestley] The morning
that Luke had his stroke,

I was at home.

I was in my kitchen,

and my phone rang,

and it was Jenny...

\h\h\h...and Jenny told me
that Luke had had a stroke,

and they were--

and he was on his way
\h\hto the hospital,

and I was shocked,

and I was stunned.

I think Brian Austin Green
\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\htexted me.

I not sure-- I don’t think
it had hit the press yet,

and, uh...

Yeah. That was... sucked.

[bleep] terrible.

I had just-- I had--

I knew someone

\h\h\hwho had passed away
from a stroke before that,

and so I didn’t have
a whole lot of faith.

I wanted to, you know?

\h\h\h\h\hI don’t think anyone
used the word "brother" with me

the way that he did.

We had really great
\h\hconversations,

and almost nothing to do
\h\h\hwith the business,

you know what I mean?

So I appreciated that about him.

I just--I just miss, uh,

I miss having him as a friend.

I hope I see him again
\hsometime, you know?

If Luke was here...

...I would tell him,

first of all,

I’m so sorry...

that you didn’t get more time.

Luke Perry’s in Heaven.

I’m a crazy Christian.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe’s riding
all the best bulls now, bro.

[laughing]

He’s on the--

\h\h\h\h\h\h\h\hHe’s-He’s
on the ultimate ranch now.

[Swanson] He was just
\hone of those people

that touched my life
in such a great way,

and someone that I looked up to,

someone I admired,

appreciated,

just one of those people
\h\h\h\hthat you just--

that they’re always
\h\h\hin your mind,

and you’ll never forget them.

[whispering] Thank you.

[deep breath]

I’m an eternal optimist.

\h\h\h\h\h\h\hI thought,
"Yeah, he’s had a stroke.

You know, my dad had a stroke
\h\h\h\h\h\ha few years ago.

You know, he’ll be--
\h\hhe’ll be okay."

At that point in time,
I was talking to Jenny,

and I was talking to Ian,
\hI was talking to Brian,

\h\h\hI was talking to Gabby,
I was talking to everybody...

...and then he passed away,
\h\h\h\h\hand it was, um...

...it was, uh, it was--

It was a shock, and it was sad,

’cause... he was a...

...he was a bright light.

When my time here is up,

I don’t wanna look back

and see that I didn’t
do anything, you know?

And by that, I mean, uh,

\h\hI didn’t have any effect
on anything else, I didn’t...

I see a lot of people

that let their life
\h\hhappen to them,

and I want to happen
\h\h\h\hto my life.

I don’t want my life
\h\hto happen to me.

[♪]