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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:25,859 --> 00:00:30,864 [♪ suspenseful music playing] 2 00:00:34,993 --> 00:00:38,121 [cheering and applause] 3 00:00:38,455 --> 00:00:41,708 [announcer] Mission Specialist Dr. Sally Ride now completing 4 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:44,962 her preparations for ingress into the Orbiter. 5 00:00:46,505 --> 00:00:48,757 The countdown at T-minus 6 00:00:48,882 --> 00:00:52,344 one hour, 40 minutes, 25 seconds, and counting. 7 00:00:53,262 --> 00:00:55,639 [heartbeat] 8 00:01:00,269 --> 00:01:03,772 All five of our flight crew are onboard now. 9 00:01:04,898 --> 00:01:08,735 Dr. Sally Ride will be known as MS2. 10 00:01:09,945 --> 00:01:11,238 [Sally Ride] Okay, team, this is MS2. 11 00:01:11,405 --> 00:01:12,698 Are you ready? 12 00:01:13,323 --> 00:01:15,241 [controller] MS2, I read you loud and clear. 13 00:01:15,242 --> 00:01:19,704 - Some U.S. space history is to be made for the first time, 14 00:01:19,705 --> 00:01:20,664 an American woman. 15 00:01:20,872 --> 00:01:22,249 - America's first woman. - The first American woman. 16 00:01:22,374 --> 00:01:23,749 - The first American woman. 17 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:24,917 - America's first female astronaut will be 18 00:01:24,918 --> 00:01:26,460 launched into space. 19 00:01:26,461 --> 00:01:28,004 Her name is Sally Ride. 20 00:01:28,005 --> 00:01:29,088 - Sally Ride. - Sally Ride. 21 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:30,591 - Sally Ride. - Astronaut Sally Ride. 22 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:32,717 - Sally, you're a star. - We're all behind you. 23 00:01:32,718 --> 00:01:34,177 - Ride on, Sally. 24 00:01:34,678 --> 00:01:37,973 - Dr. Ride, have you felt that the press coverage has 25 00:01:38,098 --> 00:01:39,766 been heavy-handed? 26 00:01:40,434 --> 00:01:41,602 [Sally Ride] Press coverage? 27 00:01:42,978 --> 00:01:46,565 I think that it's too bad that our society isn't further along 28 00:01:46,732 --> 00:01:48,317 and that this is such a big deal. 29 00:01:50,068 --> 00:01:51,986 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally was the most famous person 30 00:01:51,987 --> 00:01:54,865 on Earth for a while, and for good reason. 31 00:01:55,115 --> 00:01:56,658 [controller] T-minus two minutes and counting. 32 00:01:57,034 --> 00:01:59,869 [Sally Ride] I've come to realize that I will be 33 00:01:59,870 --> 00:02:01,078 a role model. 34 00:02:01,079 --> 00:02:03,040 [controller] The hydrogen igniters have been armed. 35 00:02:04,499 --> 00:02:06,752 - Women get a chance to prove themselves, 36 00:02:06,877 --> 00:02:08,587 hope she doesn't mess it up for us all. 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,672 [Sally Ride] I feel pretty strongly that it's important 38 00:02:11,673 --> 00:02:13,759 that I don't do anything dumb. 39 00:02:15,427 --> 00:02:16,470 [controller] 25. 40 00:02:16,637 --> 00:02:18,512 [announcer] T-minus 25 seconds and counting. 41 00:02:18,513 --> 00:02:21,850 The sequencer onboard now controlling the final seconds. 42 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:24,644 - I think it's time that people realize that women 43 00:02:24,645 --> 00:02:28,023 in this country can do any job that they wanna do. 44 00:02:29,316 --> 00:02:30,691 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally risked everything 45 00:02:30,692 --> 00:02:32,069 to make history. 46 00:02:33,445 --> 00:02:35,446 But telling the world about us, 47 00:02:35,447 --> 00:02:37,324 that was a risk she couldn't take. 48 00:02:39,368 --> 00:02:43,747 [announcer] T-minus ten, nine, eight, seven, six. 49 00:02:44,122 --> 00:02:45,874 We have the main engine start, 50 00:02:45,999 --> 00:02:47,459 we have main engine start. 51 00:02:54,841 --> 00:02:56,425 And lift off! 52 00:02:56,426 --> 00:03:00,389 Lift off on STS-7 and America's first woman astronaut. 53 00:03:04,976 --> 00:03:08,772 [♪ theme music playing] 54 00:03:29,084 --> 00:03:34,673 [♪ theme music playing] 55 00:03:42,347 --> 00:03:45,475 [♪ Sesame Street theme playing] 56 00:03:45,851 --> 00:03:47,852 - Hey, do you all know who this person is here? 57 00:03:47,853 --> 00:03:49,813 - Yes. - You do? 58 00:03:50,021 --> 00:03:51,148 What's her name? 59 00:03:51,356 --> 00:03:53,692 - Sally Ride. - Yeah, right. 60 00:03:54,192 --> 00:03:56,360 - Right. What's she do? - She's an astronaut. 61 00:03:56,361 --> 00:03:58,195 - An astronaut? - That's right. 62 00:03:58,196 --> 00:03:59,321 - How do you eat? 63 00:03:59,322 --> 00:04:01,407 Doesn't it float it up in the air? 64 00:04:01,408 --> 00:04:03,075 - You wouldn't wanna have peas or anything like that, 65 00:04:03,076 --> 00:04:04,995 because if you opened up a can of peas, they'd all. 66 00:04:05,745 --> 00:04:07,371 - But how, how many here would like to go up in space 67 00:04:07,372 --> 00:04:08,831 with Sally on the next ride? 68 00:04:08,832 --> 00:04:10,749 Okay. We got a deal. 69 00:04:10,750 --> 00:04:12,084 It's okay if we all go, right? 70 00:04:12,085 --> 00:04:13,419 - Sure, no problem. - Okay. 71 00:04:13,420 --> 00:04:15,296 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally liked how people thought about her. 72 00:04:15,297 --> 00:04:18,383 She was the golden girl and such a good role model. 73 00:04:18,758 --> 00:04:20,009 - You look like you're having some trouble. 74 00:04:20,010 --> 00:04:22,303 Is there something I can do to help? 75 00:04:22,304 --> 00:04:23,512 - Huh. 76 00:04:23,513 --> 00:04:26,224 Well, this rocket here won't blast off. 77 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:28,852 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] She didn't want that to change. 78 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:33,147 We didn't plan to hide anything. 79 00:04:33,148 --> 00:04:34,732 - I used to want to be an astronaut when I grew up. 80 00:04:34,733 --> 00:04:36,275 - Did you really? - Yes I did. 81 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:37,651 - There’s still time. 82 00:04:37,652 --> 00:04:40,154 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] It hurt me, but I'm not sure it hurt Sally. 83 00:04:40,155 --> 00:04:42,157 She didn't care about such things. 84 00:04:44,785 --> 00:04:47,162 [crew] This is Tam interview, take one. 85 00:04:49,456 --> 00:04:50,706 - Action. 86 00:04:50,707 --> 00:04:52,416 [producer] Action. 87 00:04:52,417 --> 00:04:54,210 Um, could you start by introducing yourself, 88 00:04:54,211 --> 00:04:57,339 tell me who you are, and maybe who you were to Sally? 89 00:04:58,089 --> 00:04:59,924 - Sure. 90 00:04:59,925 --> 00:05:02,927 My name is Tam O'Shaughnessy, and, uh, 91 00:05:02,928 --> 00:05:05,597 and I was her life partner for 27 years. 92 00:05:19,027 --> 00:05:22,489 The first time I met Sally, she was 13, I was 12. 93 00:05:24,491 --> 00:05:26,659 And we were standing in line with a bunch of other girls for 94 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:28,370 a tennis tournament. 95 00:05:29,663 --> 00:05:31,622 It was boiling hot there. 96 00:05:31,623 --> 00:05:35,210 I mean, I just have a picture of completely blue skies. 97 00:05:40,882 --> 00:05:43,385 I was behind Sally in line. 98 00:05:44,928 --> 00:05:47,764 I noticed her because she was standing on her toes. 99 00:05:49,182 --> 00:05:51,392 And then when the line moved forward, 100 00:05:51,393 --> 00:05:54,436 she was walking on her toes and I'd never seen somebody 101 00:05:54,437 --> 00:05:56,480 do that before. 102 00:05:56,481 --> 00:05:59,818 You know, I was just staring at her, kind of cracking up. 103 00:06:00,902 --> 00:06:03,988 And Sally just happened to turn her head and notice me. 104 00:06:03,989 --> 00:06:05,155 I said something like, 105 00:06:05,156 --> 00:06:08,076 "You're walking on your toes like a ballet dancer." 106 00:06:08,660 --> 00:06:11,121 That kind of started our friendship. 107 00:06:13,582 --> 00:06:17,293 Sally was kind of quiet, but she would talk eight minutes 108 00:06:17,294 --> 00:06:20,462 straight on different players and how to beat them, 109 00:06:20,463 --> 00:06:22,007 how to whoop them. 110 00:06:25,677 --> 00:06:28,846 - Her style of play was crafty, uh, drop shots, 111 00:06:28,847 --> 00:06:30,389 and ball placement. 112 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:33,309 I got to play doubles with her and she wanted 113 00:06:33,310 --> 00:06:36,187 to be on the side where the pressure was. 114 00:06:36,771 --> 00:06:38,272 Some people are like that in the world. 115 00:06:38,273 --> 00:06:39,398 If the game is on the line, 116 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:41,568 they wanna be the one that takes the shot. 117 00:06:41,943 --> 00:06:43,737 And Sally was like that. 118 00:06:48,116 --> 00:06:51,661 [Sally Ride] I grew up during the heyday of the space program. 119 00:06:55,081 --> 00:06:58,542 It was on the front page of the newspaper every day and I still 120 00:06:58,543 --> 00:07:01,920 remember our elementary school teachers wheeling those big old 121 00:07:01,921 --> 00:07:04,548 black and white TV sets into the classroom so that we could 122 00:07:04,549 --> 00:07:07,510 watch the very early launches. 123 00:07:09,804 --> 00:07:12,431 I think all the kids dreamed of being astronauts 124 00:07:12,432 --> 00:07:14,267 at one point or another. 125 00:07:22,692 --> 00:07:25,528 [Armstrong] That's one small step for man. 126 00:07:26,863 --> 00:07:28,280 [anchor] Boy. 127 00:07:28,281 --> 00:07:29,949 [Armstrong] Hey, I'm gonna be busy for a minute. 128 00:07:30,367 --> 00:07:33,535 [Sally Ride] I loved science, but like many girls going 129 00:07:33,536 --> 00:07:35,496 through middle school, 130 00:07:35,497 --> 00:07:37,331 I started losing my self-esteem, 131 00:07:37,332 --> 00:07:39,124 I started losing my confidence. 132 00:07:39,125 --> 00:07:41,835 I started to internalize the subtle messages 133 00:07:41,836 --> 00:07:44,297 that people often convey. 134 00:07:46,299 --> 00:07:48,051 Because the space program was all male, 135 00:07:50,136 --> 00:07:52,596 it frankly didn't occur to me that I could 136 00:07:52,597 --> 00:07:54,182 be an astronaut. 137 00:07:56,267 --> 00:08:00,396 - In 1976, NASA decided that they were going to 138 00:08:00,397 --> 00:08:03,649 expand the Astronaut Corps and they were going to 139 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:06,111 include women and minorities for the first time. 140 00:08:10,365 --> 00:08:13,743 [Sally Ride] I saw an ad in the Stanford student newspaper 141 00:08:13,910 --> 00:08:16,496 {\an8}by NASA saying that they were accepting 142 00:08:16,621 --> 00:08:18,289 {\an8}applications for astronauts. 143 00:08:19,457 --> 00:08:20,624 The moment I saw that, 144 00:08:20,625 --> 00:08:22,544 I knew that's what I wanted to do. 145 00:08:23,712 --> 00:08:27,382 That very day I quipped off a little handwritten application. 146 00:08:28,258 --> 00:08:29,883 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] "Now that the space program has evolved 147 00:08:29,884 --> 00:08:32,053 to the point where women are being considered, 148 00:08:32,637 --> 00:08:35,223 I feel that I'm being offered an incredible opportunity. 149 00:08:36,599 --> 00:08:38,517 Further, I think that my background, 150 00:08:38,518 --> 00:08:41,520 the scientific training in general and astrophysics, 151 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:44,940 qualifies me to contribute as much to the program as I expect 152 00:08:44,941 --> 00:08:46,192 to get out of it." 153 00:08:47,986 --> 00:08:49,069 So if she made a mistake, 154 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:51,656 she would just cross through it and keep going. 155 00:08:53,033 --> 00:08:54,492 Sounds like her personality. 156 00:08:56,578 --> 00:08:58,203 [reporter] When NASA announced it was recruiting between 157 00:08:58,204 --> 00:09:00,247 30 and 40 new astronauts, 158 00:09:00,248 --> 00:09:02,917 more than 8,000 hopeful candidates responded, 159 00:09:03,251 --> 00:09:05,295 including over 1,500 women. 160 00:09:06,421 --> 00:09:08,923 {\an8}[Sally Ride] I knew that I had a reasonable chance to 161 00:09:09,132 --> 00:09:12,093 {\an8}go a reasonable distance in the selection process. 162 00:09:12,844 --> 00:09:14,011 I was gonna have a Ph.D. 163 00:09:14,012 --> 00:09:16,681 by the time the selection process was over. 164 00:09:17,390 --> 00:09:19,809 And, you know, I had a good athletic background. 165 00:09:20,602 --> 00:09:22,936 [reporter] Sally Ride's vital statistics include a string of 166 00:09:22,937 --> 00:09:25,898 academic credentials that at first glance seemed 167 00:09:25,899 --> 00:09:27,817 to belong to three people. 168 00:09:28,443 --> 00:09:29,693 At Stanford University, 169 00:09:29,694 --> 00:09:32,822 she simultaneously earned degrees in English and Physics, 170 00:09:33,490 --> 00:09:36,201 then a Master's and Ph.D. in Astrophysics. 171 00:09:37,077 --> 00:09:38,452 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally was kinda a little bit 172 00:09:38,453 --> 00:09:40,622 cocky about physics. 173 00:09:41,456 --> 00:09:44,833 She loved that it was very challenging to learn. 174 00:09:44,834 --> 00:09:48,254 Therefore, if you learned it, you were kinda hot stuff. 175 00:09:54,844 --> 00:09:56,762 One night when we were in our 20s, 176 00:09:56,763 --> 00:09:58,973 I invited Sally for dinner. 177 00:09:59,849 --> 00:10:01,768 And we hadn't seen each other in a few years. 178 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:07,107 I just decided that I wanted to do something special. 179 00:10:08,358 --> 00:10:10,025 I didn't make very much money, 180 00:10:10,026 --> 00:10:12,403 but I bought steaks, some wine, 181 00:10:13,696 --> 00:10:15,697 and we had lower light. 182 00:10:15,698 --> 00:10:17,950 It was exciting and fun getting to know each other 183 00:10:17,951 --> 00:10:19,702 again as adults. 184 00:10:20,286 --> 00:10:22,497 She knew I was gay, I told her. 185 00:10:22,956 --> 00:10:26,542 And I told her that I was dating this woman. 186 00:10:26,543 --> 00:10:30,046 But I didn't know she had her own experience. 187 00:10:31,089 --> 00:10:32,715 I had no clue. 188 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:36,760 - Sally was my first best friend as well as my 189 00:10:36,761 --> 00:10:38,846 first relationship with a woman. 190 00:10:38,847 --> 00:10:40,722 I never talked about my college years, you know, 191 00:10:40,723 --> 00:10:42,934 because my college years were so wrapped up in Sally. 192 00:10:45,854 --> 00:10:48,147 What I had with Sally was wonderful. 193 00:10:48,148 --> 00:10:50,358 And for four years, we were together all the time. 194 00:10:52,235 --> 00:10:54,611 But neither of us were talking to anybody outside of 195 00:10:54,612 --> 00:10:56,948 our own little household about what was going on. 196 00:10:58,408 --> 00:11:00,618 We certainly weren't holding hands outside the apartment. 197 00:11:03,246 --> 00:11:06,081 I think that was what finally ended it for me is that, 198 00:11:06,082 --> 00:11:08,626 that I couldn't live in that tiny little world. 199 00:11:12,922 --> 00:11:15,508 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] I remember seeing Molly and Sally together, 200 00:11:16,551 --> 00:11:17,968 but I didn't know. 201 00:11:17,969 --> 00:11:20,930 I didn't know that until years later. 202 00:11:23,183 --> 00:11:25,225 And when we had the romantic steak dinner that I 203 00:11:25,226 --> 00:11:28,021 didn't realize was romantic, 204 00:11:28,521 --> 00:11:31,566 we just talked and connected and it was a lovely evening. 205 00:11:33,234 --> 00:11:36,403 She did tell me 10 years later that her feelings for me 206 00:11:36,404 --> 00:11:38,656 started to change that night. 207 00:11:39,699 --> 00:11:42,452 But I didn't, you know, I had no clue. 208 00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:46,915 Shortly thereafter, she got the phone call from NASA. 209 00:11:49,918 --> 00:11:53,796 [phone ringing] 210 00:11:54,756 --> 00:11:57,299 {\an8}[Sally Ride] I got a phone call very early in the morning 211 00:11:57,300 --> 00:11:58,593 {\an8}California time. 212 00:11:59,677 --> 00:12:01,179 I thought maybe I was dreaming. 213 00:12:01,930 --> 00:12:04,474 I had been accepted for the astronaut office. 214 00:12:10,188 --> 00:12:11,898 Of course, I was thrilled. 215 00:12:19,906 --> 00:12:23,576 [reporter] In early 1978, astrophysicist, Dr. Sally Ride, 216 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,413 notified her family of an important event in her career. 217 00:12:28,331 --> 00:12:31,876 She'd been selected by NASA to be an astronaut candidate. 218 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:35,046 - I was very excited. 219 00:12:35,797 --> 00:12:38,090 The first thing I did was I hung up the phone from talking 220 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:40,634 to George Abbey and I picked it up again and called 221 00:12:40,635 --> 00:12:43,554 my mother and then called my sister, called my father. 222 00:12:44,764 --> 00:12:47,224 They're almost as excited as I am. 223 00:12:47,225 --> 00:12:49,101 My mother's reaction was that my, 224 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:51,603 I have another sister who's in theology. 225 00:12:51,604 --> 00:12:53,397 She's at a theological seminary. 226 00:12:53,398 --> 00:12:54,940 And my mother said, "Well, you know, 227 00:12:54,941 --> 00:12:57,610 one of the two of them is going to get to heaven." 228 00:12:58,444 --> 00:13:00,320 - Up to now, the men on the moon have been 229 00:13:00,321 --> 00:13:02,364 just that, men, not women. 230 00:13:02,365 --> 00:13:05,325 In fact, up to now, all astronauts have been men, 231 00:13:05,326 --> 00:13:06,828 and White, not Black. 232 00:13:07,328 --> 00:13:10,122 - The United States Space Agency has appointed 35 new astronauts, 233 00:13:10,123 --> 00:13:12,792 including six women, three Blacks, and one Oriental. 234 00:13:13,584 --> 00:13:17,922 ♪ It was all science fiction till they landed on the moon. ♪ 235 00:13:19,924 --> 00:13:25,305 ♪ Now all my space comic books are in the history room. ♪ 236 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:29,267 {\an8}[Sally Ride] When I got to NASA, it was the coolest thing. 237 00:13:29,392 --> 00:13:32,644 {\an8}And from that point on, I really dreamed of getting a 238 00:13:32,645 --> 00:13:34,563 chance to go into space myself. 239 00:13:34,564 --> 00:13:40,028 ♪ Can you hear us singing from the galaxy next door? ♪ 240 00:13:41,362 --> 00:13:44,407 [Sally Ride] We walked in as rookies in the Astronaut Corps. 241 00:13:45,408 --> 00:13:48,161 None of us knew anything about what was about to happen to us. 242 00:13:51,039 --> 00:13:53,082 That was really the turning point in my life. 243 00:13:59,589 --> 00:14:01,007 {\an8}[overlapping chatter] 244 00:14:01,340 --> 00:14:04,427 {\an8}- I'd like to welcome all of our new friends to Houston, 245 00:14:04,635 --> 00:14:06,304 and the Johnson Space Center. 246 00:14:06,429 --> 00:14:11,349 We found over 8,000 people who were interested in being 247 00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:13,352 astronauts and who applied. 248 00:14:14,103 --> 00:14:18,065 - The very first trip down to Houston was all 35 of us, 249 00:14:18,066 --> 00:14:19,149 just to introduce us, 250 00:14:19,150 --> 00:14:20,943 in a big, formal press splash. 251 00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:25,781 There were 10 people the likes of whom had never 252 00:14:25,782 --> 00:14:27,867 been in NASA's Astronaut Corps before. 253 00:14:30,244 --> 00:14:31,788 - Sally Ride. 254 00:14:32,163 --> 00:14:33,955 She's presently a research assistant in the 255 00:14:33,956 --> 00:14:36,374 Physics Department at Stanford University, 256 00:14:36,375 --> 00:14:37,876 Stanford, California. 257 00:14:37,877 --> 00:14:39,836 [Kathy Sullivan] There was a huge spotlight turned on 258 00:14:39,837 --> 00:14:41,464 the 10 of us that were different. 259 00:14:45,968 --> 00:14:49,889 And so we were in just a press gauntlet for hours and hours. 260 00:14:50,056 --> 00:14:51,265 [crew] Kathy Sullivan. 261 00:14:51,390 --> 00:14:54,560 [Kathy Sullivan] It kind of attuned us to what was coming. 262 00:14:55,144 --> 00:14:56,729 You're now a public figure. 263 00:14:57,980 --> 00:15:00,566 They're not gonna just wanna know about your hopes for the 264 00:15:00,983 --> 00:15:02,735 space program or what you wanna do. 265 00:15:03,277 --> 00:15:05,947 They'd wanna get at the stereotypical angles, 266 00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:08,240 the romantic angles, the hair and makeup angles, 267 00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:09,325 the fashion angles, 268 00:15:09,575 --> 00:15:11,910 the angles they're used to applying to women 269 00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:13,453 {\an8}that they're covering. 270 00:15:13,454 --> 00:15:15,413 {\an8}[reporter] What happens when you meet a man who's not in the 271 00:15:15,414 --> 00:15:18,042 {\an8}space program and doesn't know who you are and you say, 272 00:15:18,209 --> 00:15:19,377 "I'm an astronaut"? 273 00:15:19,502 --> 00:15:21,586 Does he say, "Hey, you're too cute to be an astronaut? 274 00:15:21,587 --> 00:15:22,796 Come on, little lady. 275 00:15:22,797 --> 00:15:24,340 You can't be an astronaut"? 276 00:15:24,549 --> 00:15:26,217 - I just tell him I'm an engineer. 277 00:15:28,219 --> 00:15:29,929 [reporter] When do you expect to go up in the shuttle? 278 00:15:30,263 --> 00:15:32,764 [Judy Resnik] Oh, it's gonna be a few years for us 279 00:15:32,765 --> 00:15:35,309 who are relatively new, but it's worth the wait. 280 00:15:36,435 --> 00:15:38,687 [reporter] The Space Shuttle Columbia is scheduled 281 00:15:38,688 --> 00:15:40,605 to take off from Cape Canaveral, Florida 282 00:15:40,606 --> 00:15:42,316 on its initial test flight. 283 00:15:42,733 --> 00:15:44,110 {\an8}[Sally Ride] I can't wait to get up. 284 00:15:44,485 --> 00:15:47,488 {\an8}I think that we're all eager to each get up ourselves. 285 00:15:52,535 --> 00:15:55,997 {\an8}- Everybody wanted to be first male and female. 286 00:15:56,581 --> 00:15:59,417 And that's just the nature of who we were. 287 00:16:01,085 --> 00:16:02,460 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] The astronauts knew that 288 00:16:02,461 --> 00:16:04,130 certain people were important. 289 00:16:04,255 --> 00:16:08,009 But the actual process, what criteria they used, 290 00:16:08,176 --> 00:16:10,761 it was an absolute black box mystery. 291 00:16:11,220 --> 00:16:14,307 They didn't know, you know, should I be more friendly? 292 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,474 Should I work an extra two hours? 293 00:16:16,475 --> 00:16:18,394 They didn't know what the formula was. 294 00:16:20,396 --> 00:16:23,232 - There was no question that Sally wanted to be the first. 295 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:27,360 She never would have admitted that in an interview. 296 00:16:27,361 --> 00:16:29,821 Every interview you read with her, she'll say, 297 00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:31,782 "Oh, well, I just wanna fly." 298 00:16:32,909 --> 00:16:34,993 - I didn't come into this program to be the 299 00:16:34,994 --> 00:16:36,161 first woman in space. 300 00:16:36,162 --> 00:16:39,289 I don't have any great desire to be the first woman. 301 00:16:39,290 --> 00:16:41,041 That doesn't mean all that much to me, 302 00:16:41,042 --> 00:16:43,461 but getting up as soon as I can does. 303 00:16:45,922 --> 00:16:47,757 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Some of the training is really hard. 304 00:16:50,384 --> 00:16:53,804 Parachute jumping, the Vomit Comet, 305 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:57,599 the airplane that dips and dives. 306 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,727 It gives them 20 seconds of weightlessness. 307 00:17:00,561 --> 00:17:01,728 - It was a Vomit Comet. 308 00:17:01,729 --> 00:17:03,940 Yeah, it, it was well-named. 309 00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:07,067 [reporter] The women astronauts had been subjected to the same 310 00:17:07,068 --> 00:17:09,195 exercises as their male counterparts. 311 00:17:10,071 --> 00:17:13,241 They've been hoisted, dunked, and pulled, 312 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:17,494 taught survival techniques, learning to use some of the 313 00:17:17,495 --> 00:17:19,246 tools they'll be taking with them on the 314 00:17:19,247 --> 00:17:21,082 real shuttle flights. 315 00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:25,252 - All the while, there were all these media folks 316 00:17:25,253 --> 00:17:27,087 all around you. 317 00:17:27,088 --> 00:17:28,505 [Kathy Sullivan] They're watching very closely how 318 00:17:28,506 --> 00:17:29,506 you're doing. 319 00:17:29,507 --> 00:17:31,299 "Can these people really hack it, 320 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:32,968 in the unknowns and the uncertainties, 321 00:17:32,969 --> 00:17:34,679 the potential hazards?" 322 00:17:36,097 --> 00:17:37,472 [reporter] Do you think that you are as good as 323 00:17:37,473 --> 00:17:39,683 any male astronaut here? 324 00:17:39,684 --> 00:17:41,185 - Yeah. 325 00:17:43,271 --> 00:17:44,981 [reporter] And better than some of them? 326 00:17:45,439 --> 00:17:47,942 - I'm, I'm not stupid enough to say that. 327 00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:53,071 - It got narrowed down in almost everyone's minds between 328 00:17:53,072 --> 00:17:54,574 Sally or Judy Resnik. 329 00:17:56,409 --> 00:17:58,786 Judy was always considered a strong contender. 330 00:18:00,329 --> 00:18:03,124 She's really smart, really good engineer. 331 00:18:04,959 --> 00:18:07,461 - Sally and Judy were like apples and oranges. 332 00:18:07,962 --> 00:18:10,464 They're two entirely different types of personalities. 333 00:18:11,882 --> 00:18:14,718 Judy was a sweetheart and she was extraordinarily 334 00:18:14,719 --> 00:18:17,680 bright and capable but she loved having fun. 335 00:18:19,348 --> 00:18:21,474 Sally was much quieter. 336 00:18:21,475 --> 00:18:24,020 Her personality was strictly business. 337 00:18:25,896 --> 00:18:29,400 - I never really saw her display a lot of emotion. 338 00:18:29,817 --> 00:18:30,817 Is she mad? 339 00:18:30,818 --> 00:18:33,111 Is she happy? Is she upset? 340 00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:34,946 I don't know. 341 00:18:34,947 --> 00:18:37,450 That made her a little bit hard for people to get close to. 342 00:18:39,201 --> 00:18:40,995 [Anna Fisher] She did have a rough edge to her. 343 00:18:42,079 --> 00:18:44,247 I don't think she knew how to be friends with someone 344 00:18:44,248 --> 00:18:46,042 she was competing with. 345 00:18:51,797 --> 00:18:53,882 {\an8}[Sally Ride] One of my first assignments was on the 346 00:18:53,883 --> 00:18:55,968 {\an8}shuttle's robot arm. 347 00:18:56,594 --> 00:18:59,513 It was still in the testing and development stage. 348 00:19:01,557 --> 00:19:03,642 [Anna Fisher] By virtue of your assignments, 349 00:19:03,643 --> 00:19:06,102 that would put you in a position where you would be 350 00:19:06,103 --> 00:19:08,856 eligible to be first. 351 00:19:10,608 --> 00:19:12,776 [Kathy Sullivan] The point of the robot arm was to be able to 352 00:19:12,777 --> 00:19:15,488 pluck satellites out of the shuttle and put it into space. 353 00:19:17,198 --> 00:19:19,617 Having that assignment was a big deal. 354 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,536 [Anna Fisher] Sally was a very good arm operator, 355 00:19:23,537 --> 00:19:25,539 as was Judy. 356 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,540 [Judy Resnik] Yeah, it drifted aft of the bay, 357 00:19:27,541 --> 00:19:28,583 aft of the center. 358 00:19:28,584 --> 00:19:30,836 I've got it at 45 and 30 now. 359 00:19:33,005 --> 00:19:36,425 {\an8}[Tam O'Shaughnessy] Because of her hand-eye coordination 360 00:19:36,592 --> 00:19:38,176 {\an8}from being a tennis player, 361 00:19:38,177 --> 00:19:41,471 {\an8}Sally just took to it and figured out how it could 362 00:19:41,472 --> 00:19:45,350 work in space, and so people noticed that she had 363 00:19:45,351 --> 00:19:47,269 mastered the robotic arm. 364 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,065 - Those kind of factors might put you in a fast track 365 00:19:52,066 --> 00:19:53,943 to an early flight. 366 00:19:55,277 --> 00:19:57,612 Sally had a very different competitive mindset 367 00:19:57,613 --> 00:19:59,198 than the rest of us. 368 00:20:00,658 --> 00:20:02,450 One day, we're training and I'm practicing on the 369 00:20:02,451 --> 00:20:03,869 big robotic arm. 370 00:20:04,745 --> 00:20:08,581 I'm up at that panel to start working with it and I notice 371 00:20:08,582 --> 00:20:10,875 Sally pass behind me and go down the ladder 372 00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:12,419 to the deck below. 373 00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:16,507 And, suddenly, the arm stops moving... abruptly. 374 00:20:18,092 --> 00:20:20,468 And so I go into troubleshooting mode and 375 00:20:20,469 --> 00:20:23,513 eventually work my way back to the circuit breakers which are 376 00:20:23,514 --> 00:20:26,683 on a panel that you go by that panel as you go down that 377 00:20:26,684 --> 00:20:29,103 ladder and they've all been pulled out. 378 00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:32,313 So it became clear to me that Sally, 379 00:20:32,314 --> 00:20:33,481 on her way down the ladder, 380 00:20:33,482 --> 00:20:35,108 had just quietly popped, popped, popped 381 00:20:35,109 --> 00:20:37,153 the circuit breakers out. 382 00:20:38,028 --> 00:20:40,488 Was Sally just helpfully playing instructor and seeing 383 00:20:40,489 --> 00:20:41,906 if I could figure it out? 384 00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:43,533 Was she sending some kind of signal, 385 00:20:43,534 --> 00:20:45,452 like "That's my manipulator arm. 386 00:20:45,453 --> 00:20:47,078 What are you doing with it?" 387 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:49,248 Or just messing with my head? 388 00:20:50,958 --> 00:20:52,834 If any of the six of us was consciously 389 00:20:52,835 --> 00:20:54,919 aiming at "I want that prize," 390 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,672 I would bet it probably was Sally. 391 00:21:00,301 --> 00:21:02,427 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] I couldn't understand the excitement of 392 00:21:02,428 --> 00:21:04,262 working for NASA, quite frankly. 393 00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:06,639 I thought it would be like the most boring, 394 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,059 constrained place on the Earth to work, 395 00:21:10,227 --> 00:21:13,271 and just not open-minded to people of color. 396 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:15,983 You know, if you're queer, you know, get out of here. 397 00:21:18,819 --> 00:21:20,654 I took a much different path. 398 00:21:22,323 --> 00:21:23,656 Instead of going to college, 399 00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:26,911 I joined the first-ever women's professional tennis tour, 400 00:21:27,703 --> 00:21:29,329 the Virginia Slim Circuit. 401 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:31,957 I did play the US Open and Wimbledon. 402 00:21:32,917 --> 00:21:35,169 And I met a lot of wonderful people, 403 00:21:35,878 --> 00:21:38,547 including a female tennis player from Sweden. 404 00:21:41,926 --> 00:21:43,885 We had become friends and then I realized the way I was 405 00:21:43,886 --> 00:21:47,848 thinking about her was sort of, uh, different. 406 00:21:48,474 --> 00:21:49,724 It was kind of gay. 407 00:21:49,725 --> 00:21:52,519 And it, it shocked me. 408 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,814 And I was afraid. 409 00:21:55,356 --> 00:21:59,944 Growing up, I got the message about homosexuals or lesbians, 410 00:22:00,611 --> 00:22:02,445 you know, are very scary people. 411 00:22:02,446 --> 00:22:04,197 - Most Americans are repelled by the mere 412 00:22:04,198 --> 00:22:05,990 notion of homosexuality. 413 00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:09,077 The CBS News survey shows that two out of three Americans 414 00:22:09,078 --> 00:22:12,873 look upon homosexuals with disgust, discomfort, or fear. 415 00:22:13,582 --> 00:22:14,749 - I think it's revolting. 416 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:16,584 And it says in the Old Testament, 417 00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:19,004 it's an abomination against God. 418 00:22:19,672 --> 00:22:21,714 - It's not American, you know? 419 00:22:21,715 --> 00:22:23,884 - I think they should be shot if you ask me. 420 00:22:25,302 --> 00:22:27,345 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] At first, all the fear and shame that we 421 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:29,181 grew up with rose up in me. 422 00:22:30,099 --> 00:22:31,057 You have to be careful. 423 00:22:31,058 --> 00:22:32,684 You have to cover who you are. 424 00:22:32,685 --> 00:22:35,061 You have to hide how you feel. 425 00:22:35,062 --> 00:22:37,147 And all of that stuff started. 426 00:22:38,148 --> 00:22:41,901 But I came from this tennis environment where they just did 427 00:22:41,902 --> 00:22:44,864 not care who you were dating or who you were sleeping with. 428 00:22:46,991 --> 00:22:49,742 I connected with a growing community of women who were 429 00:22:49,743 --> 00:22:51,996 willing to be more open about their sexuality. 430 00:22:54,456 --> 00:22:56,667 There was a whole movement happening across the country. 431 00:22:57,543 --> 00:23:01,088 - If they thought that we were everywhere in the 1970s, 432 00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:03,841 wait till they see the 1980s. 433 00:23:07,803 --> 00:23:10,054 [Tam O'Shaughnessy] Seeing other members of the queer 434 00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:12,975 community out marching and being themselves was inspiring. 435 00:23:15,686 --> 00:23:17,980 I decided I was gonna tell my sisters and my mom. 436 00:23:19,523 --> 00:23:23,067 I saw that it was possible to be honest about who I was and 437 00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:24,737 it felt really good. 438 00:23:26,155 --> 00:23:29,532 I feel lucky to have experienced that when I was, 439 00:23:29,533 --> 00:23:32,745 you know, 19, 20, 21, you know? 440 00:23:33,287 --> 00:23:34,370 Sally had a completely, 441 00:23:34,371 --> 00:23:36,373 much more constrained environment. 442 00:23:40,044 --> 00:23:42,421 When Sally and I started dating, she brought this to me. 443 00:23:44,006 --> 00:23:47,342 And it, I have to say, it surprised me because it's, 444 00:23:47,343 --> 00:23:49,303 it's two women. 445 00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:53,223 It's beautiful, but it just surprised me a little bit 446 00:23:54,350 --> 00:24:00,188 'cause I knew she was private and she wasn't out and, 447 00:24:00,189 --> 00:24:02,316 and proud and all that sort of stuff. 448 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,820 Sally just did not talk about how she felt 449 00:24:07,821 --> 00:24:09,990 about personal things. 450 00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:13,660 Even as a youngster, 451 00:24:13,661 --> 00:24:15,371 she was very private, even then. 452 00:24:16,747 --> 00:24:19,749 Her whole family, they did not have that intimate, 453 00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:22,836 inside-the-guts kind of relationship. 454 00:24:23,837 --> 00:24:25,756 [producer] What was Sally like as a kid? 455 00:24:26,423 --> 00:24:30,177 [Joyce Ride] I think she was kind of closed mouthed 456 00:24:30,928 --> 00:24:33,514 about how she felt. 457 00:24:34,139 --> 00:24:35,724 [producer] What do you attribute that to? 458 00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:39,311 [Joyce Ride] It's none of your business. 459 00:24:41,605 --> 00:24:43,482 My name is Joyce Ride. 460 00:24:44,108 --> 00:24:46,402 [producer] And what's your relationship to Sally? 461 00:24:47,069 --> 00:24:48,278 [Joyce Ride] Sally? 462 00:24:49,321 --> 00:24:52,866 She was my number one child. 463 00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:56,494 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally's parents were 464 00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:57,870 progressive thinkers, 465 00:24:57,871 --> 00:25:02,375 very open-minded, and both of them just believed that 466 00:25:02,376 --> 00:25:04,461 their daughters could do anything they wanted to do. 467 00:25:10,134 --> 00:25:12,594 Sally's childhood was, in a way, ideal, 468 00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:16,180 but on the other hand, her parents didn't show much 469 00:25:16,181 --> 00:25:19,476 affection to each other or to Bear and Sally. 470 00:25:21,562 --> 00:25:26,149 - Being Norwegian, we were not a family that 471 00:25:26,150 --> 00:25:27,651 shared feelings a lot. 472 00:25:28,819 --> 00:25:31,655 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally absorbed the message that too 473 00:25:32,114 --> 00:25:36,451 much exuberance, too much emotion is not what we do 474 00:25:36,452 --> 00:25:38,120 around here, you know? 475 00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:44,501 [producer] Why do you not like talking about feelings? 476 00:25:47,755 --> 00:25:50,716 [Joyce Ride] If I knew how I felt about feelings 477 00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:57,848 I would probably not tell you. 478 00:25:59,433 --> 00:26:01,100 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] She didn't learn how to express her 479 00:26:01,101 --> 00:26:03,520 emotions because they were not expressed at home. 480 00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:08,901 Sally and I would, for example, like drive up to visit her mom, 481 00:26:09,234 --> 00:26:10,234 knock on the door. 482 00:26:10,235 --> 00:26:13,072 Joyce would answer and, "Hello, oldest daughter," 483 00:26:14,740 --> 00:26:15,865 you know, and, "Hello, Tam." 484 00:26:15,866 --> 00:26:18,826 And then kinda go back to what she was doing. 485 00:26:18,827 --> 00:26:21,704 So there was no like, "Come on in." 486 00:26:21,705 --> 00:26:22,997 Hug. 487 00:26:22,998 --> 00:26:24,499 You know, hug Sally. 488 00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:26,084 "Oh, I haven't seen you, love you." 489 00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:27,126 None of that. 490 00:26:27,127 --> 00:26:28,294 Absolutely none. 491 00:26:28,295 --> 00:26:30,129 She, she went back to the dining room table to do 492 00:26:30,130 --> 00:26:32,091 whatever she was doing. 493 00:26:32,758 --> 00:26:33,925 [producer] And did you know that they were together 494 00:26:33,926 --> 00:26:35,009 at the time? 495 00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:37,178 That they were dating? 496 00:26:37,179 --> 00:26:38,597 [Joyce Ride] Well, yes. 497 00:26:39,098 --> 00:26:42,518 But it wasn't something we talked about. 498 00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:46,020 [reporter] Do you see yourself, at this point, as a 499 00:26:46,021 --> 00:26:47,898 "right stuff" kind of astronaut? 500 00:26:48,857 --> 00:26:50,192 - You wanna define that? 501 00:26:51,318 --> 00:26:52,777 [reporter] Well, I think what Tom Wolfe does is something 502 00:26:52,778 --> 00:26:56,990 like death-defying, fighter jock, et cetera. 503 00:26:57,324 --> 00:26:58,826 - No, I don't think so. 504 00:27:00,244 --> 00:27:03,704 Out of roughly 4,000 technical employees at 505 00:27:03,705 --> 00:27:05,874 the Johnson Space Center, there were only four women. 506 00:27:06,959 --> 00:27:09,878 So that gives you a sense of how male the culture was. 507 00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:15,550 [Kathy Sullivan] The hierarchy of big meetings, 508 00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:18,262 the main table had always only ever been men. 509 00:27:19,596 --> 00:27:21,765 I can recall some kind of perplexed looks. 510 00:27:22,933 --> 00:27:24,976 "What's that girl doing, whose secretary is sitting 511 00:27:24,977 --> 00:27:26,353 at the table?" 512 00:27:27,187 --> 00:27:29,105 [reporter] Is there any difference being a female 513 00:27:29,106 --> 00:27:31,482 astronaut as opposed to being a male astronaut? 514 00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,067 Is there anything positive, anything negative, 515 00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:34,277 anything funny? 516 00:27:34,278 --> 00:27:35,486 - No. 517 00:27:35,487 --> 00:27:38,197 I don't think, I don't think you ought to even address that 518 00:27:38,198 --> 00:27:39,741 question in your program. 519 00:27:41,368 --> 00:27:42,994 [reporter] Do I. 520 00:27:42,995 --> 00:27:45,539 - I would like you to cut that out, okay? 521 00:27:46,206 --> 00:27:47,833 [reporter] Fine. That's it. 522 00:27:48,959 --> 00:27:52,462 - All of us tried to downplay our femininity. 523 00:27:53,630 --> 00:27:56,216 Sally and I went shopping together. 524 00:27:56,675 --> 00:28:00,761 We were looking for brown khaki pants and shirts 525 00:28:00,762 --> 00:28:02,848 that looked like what the guys wear. 526 00:28:04,391 --> 00:28:07,727 We wanted them to think of us as one of the team and 527 00:28:07,728 --> 00:28:09,730 not as a female astronaut. 528 00:28:12,316 --> 00:28:13,566 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] This is a jacket that I think 529 00:28:13,567 --> 00:28:15,526 Sally enjoyed wearing, you know, 530 00:28:15,527 --> 00:28:17,529 with her aviator sunglasses. 531 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,031 She was channeling, you know, 532 00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:21,949 the Apollo astronauts and all their, 533 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:25,621 kind of their macho, cocky, cocky ways. 534 00:28:28,457 --> 00:28:29,874 [Anna Fisher] The women astronauts had a 535 00:28:29,875 --> 00:28:31,208 fine line to walk. 536 00:28:31,209 --> 00:28:33,295 On the one hand, they wanted to blend in. 537 00:28:35,464 --> 00:28:37,673 But they also had to find a way to confront 538 00:28:37,674 --> 00:28:40,844 the baked-in sexism of the culture of the time. 539 00:28:41,303 --> 00:28:43,387 - No, either, what I, what I was saying was 540 00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:44,555 it's not Ms. Ride. 541 00:28:44,556 --> 00:28:46,474 It's either Doctor or it's Sally. 542 00:28:46,475 --> 00:28:47,725 And you can take your choice. 543 00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:48,726 [reporter] Okay. 544 00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:49,852 [crew] Take your choice. It's probably easier-- 545 00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:50,895 [reporter] I think Sally for her. 546 00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:52,480 [crew] We can use it one time, one way, 547 00:28:52,481 --> 00:28:53,564 one time, the next way? 548 00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:54,607 [reporter] Okay. 549 00:28:54,608 --> 00:28:55,733 - That's right. 550 00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:56,859 [crew] Huh? Just don't get. 551 00:28:56,860 --> 00:28:58,736 [reporter] 'Cause we kinda... 552 00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:00,321 - Well, that one's not right. 553 00:29:00,322 --> 00:29:01,948 {\an8}[reporter] Okay. 554 00:29:01,949 --> 00:29:03,866 {\an8}[Sally Ride] There are elements of NASA that really 555 00:29:03,867 --> 00:29:05,577 {\an8}don't know what to do with us. 556 00:29:06,328 --> 00:29:08,246 {\an8}Some of them are a little bit patronizing. 557 00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:11,040 Every time they'll come to talk to one of us, 558 00:29:11,041 --> 00:29:13,168 they're not quite sure what to make of us. 559 00:29:17,631 --> 00:29:20,299 - I was a graduate at West Point. 560 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:22,009 Went to Vietnam. 561 00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:24,012 134 combat missions over there. 562 00:29:25,180 --> 00:29:28,766 I felt that the women who were selected hadn't paid 563 00:29:28,767 --> 00:29:30,769 their dues like we had. 564 00:29:32,145 --> 00:29:34,398 Quite a few of the military people shared my attitude. 565 00:29:38,652 --> 00:29:40,696 You know, I thought Sally was very attractive. 566 00:29:42,948 --> 00:29:44,658 Judy was beautiful. 567 00:29:45,283 --> 00:29:46,951 That was the reality at the time. 568 00:29:46,952 --> 00:29:48,703 You know, men saw women then for, 569 00:29:48,704 --> 00:29:51,665 for the sexual creatures they were. 570 00:29:51,999 --> 00:29:53,124 But women astronauts? 571 00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:54,542 Are you kidding me? 572 00:29:54,543 --> 00:29:58,170 - There, there. Astronauts don't cry. 573 00:29:58,171 --> 00:29:59,547 [Mike Mullane] They'll panic at the first problem. 574 00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:01,132 They'll be screaming. They'll be clutching. 575 00:30:01,133 --> 00:30:02,843 They'll be looking for a man to hide behind. 576 00:30:03,677 --> 00:30:05,970 - We must investigate, under controlled conditions, 577 00:30:05,971 --> 00:30:08,432 the reactions of a woman to moon space environment. 578 00:30:09,266 --> 00:30:11,309 - Well, Renzo, welcome to your new home. 579 00:30:15,397 --> 00:30:17,399 [whimpering] 580 00:30:17,983 --> 00:30:19,901 [automated voice] That unit is defective. 581 00:30:20,235 --> 00:30:21,653 Its thinking is chaotic. 582 00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:24,322 - That unit is a woman. 583 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:27,408 - I remember telling a joke and it had some 584 00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:29,035 obscene language in it. 585 00:30:29,036 --> 00:30:32,288 And you can obviously edit this out but the punch line 586 00:30:32,289 --> 00:30:34,207 involved the word "tits." 587 00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:37,084 And I could just see in her eyes, you know, 588 00:30:37,085 --> 00:30:39,170 this look of "You're the most disgusting person 589 00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:41,088 I've ever met." 590 00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:43,050 And I didn't talk to her much after that. 591 00:30:44,551 --> 00:30:46,928 I had never worked professionally with women. 592 00:30:47,304 --> 00:30:48,721 I was very suspect of, 593 00:30:48,722 --> 00:30:52,349 of them being able to perform in such a dangerous world 594 00:30:52,350 --> 00:30:54,227 of high-performance flight. 595 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:56,228 I just couldn't see what they were gonna be bringing 596 00:30:56,229 --> 00:30:57,689 to the table. 597 00:30:58,065 --> 00:31:00,232 - The reason that women weren't able to go into space 598 00:31:00,233 --> 00:31:03,360 in the early 1960s was really because they 599 00:31:03,361 --> 00:31:05,738 had never thought about the astronaut being 600 00:31:05,739 --> 00:31:07,199 anything other than a man. 601 00:31:08,366 --> 00:31:09,867 [reporter] Is there any room in our space program for 602 00:31:09,868 --> 00:31:11,453 a woman astronaut? 603 00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:13,829 - Well, we could have used a woman, 604 00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:16,166 and flown her instead of the chimpanzee. 605 00:31:16,583 --> 00:31:17,541 Now, I-- 606 00:31:17,542 --> 00:31:19,461 [laughter] 607 00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:23,047 [Margaret Weitekamp] In the late '50s, 608 00:31:23,048 --> 00:31:26,300 a group of women pilots who went through all of the same 609 00:31:26,301 --> 00:31:29,638 tests that had been put together for the male candidates 610 00:31:30,222 --> 00:31:31,848 for the Mercury program. 611 00:31:33,016 --> 00:31:35,142 - If we're going to send a human being into space, 612 00:31:35,143 --> 00:31:37,187 we should send the one most qualified. 613 00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:38,521 Women weigh less, 614 00:31:38,522 --> 00:31:40,106 require less weight, food, and oxygen, 615 00:31:40,107 --> 00:31:41,690 so you could go up in the same booster. 616 00:31:41,691 --> 00:31:43,485 Go up higher or stay up a lot longer. 617 00:31:44,444 --> 00:31:46,488 - The women did very well. 618 00:31:47,072 --> 00:31:50,449 They did much better on the cardiopulmonary tests and 619 00:31:50,450 --> 00:31:52,369 the sensory deprivation testing. 620 00:31:53,036 --> 00:31:56,038 - But if you could find women better qualified than yourself, 621 00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:57,373 how would you welcome them in the program? 622 00:31:57,374 --> 00:32:00,836 - Oh. They would be very welcome. 623 00:32:03,547 --> 00:32:05,089 [Margaret Weitekamp] Very few people spoke against 624 00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:08,718 the women explicitly, but, eventually, 625 00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:11,012 the program was canceled. 626 00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:17,853 {\an8}[Lynn Sherr] The Soviets, they got there first. 627 00:32:19,563 --> 00:32:21,064 They had the first satellite with Sputnik. 628 00:32:22,858 --> 00:32:24,568 They had the first human in space. 629 00:32:25,986 --> 00:32:27,821 They had the first female in space, 630 00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:30,240 Valentina Tereshkova. 631 00:32:31,074 --> 00:32:33,910 But America wasn't ready for a woman for a long time. 632 00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:38,414 {\an8}[reporter] Sally, is there anybody here at NASA who is 633 00:32:38,415 --> 00:32:40,875 {\an8}still unconvinced that women have a place 634 00:32:40,876 --> 00:32:42,127 {\an8}in the space program? 635 00:32:42,752 --> 00:32:45,504 {\an8}- I think there are a few people that are, 636 00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:47,089 {\an8}that are waiting to see how I do. 637 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:48,842 {\an8}Let me, let me put it that way. 638 00:32:50,719 --> 00:32:52,428 {\an8}[Lynn Sherr] After only one year of training, 639 00:32:52,429 --> 00:32:55,515 {\an8}Sally was chosen to be CapCom on STS-2. 640 00:33:00,604 --> 00:33:02,146 [radio chatter] 641 00:33:02,147 --> 00:33:05,482 That's like a plum position, the only person in 642 00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:08,195 Mission Control to talk to the astronauts in space. 643 00:33:08,945 --> 00:33:10,654 [Sally Ride] Okay. You're loud and clear now. 644 00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:13,450 And we copied your RMS comments and it sounds great. 645 00:33:13,783 --> 00:33:14,910 - Okay. 646 00:33:15,327 --> 00:33:16,702 [Mike Mullane] It's a lot of responsibility. 647 00:33:16,703 --> 00:33:18,996 And on that particular mission, 648 00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:20,582 they had, had some problems. 649 00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:23,584 [Lynn Sherr] During the mission, 650 00:33:23,585 --> 00:33:25,253 heat tiles were damaged. 651 00:33:26,504 --> 00:33:29,215 - Well, the first part of this ride is a real barn burner. 652 00:33:29,216 --> 00:33:30,842 And we've got some flakes going by the window. 653 00:33:31,676 --> 00:33:35,054 - The heat tiles are the only thing that protects 654 00:33:35,055 --> 00:33:37,806 the shuttle when it comes back into Earth's atmosphere. 655 00:33:37,807 --> 00:33:40,185 Without enough heat tiles, it blows up. 656 00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:43,563 - So, there are some changes coming to them. 657 00:33:44,481 --> 00:33:46,190 - But you don't want me to even mention that there are 658 00:33:46,191 --> 00:33:47,858 changes coming until we get over the States. 659 00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:49,236 - That's right. 660 00:33:49,653 --> 00:33:51,779 - We'd like to take a look a little while longer at 661 00:33:51,780 --> 00:33:53,323 the camera problem. 662 00:33:54,741 --> 00:33:56,034 - Okay. 663 00:33:57,452 --> 00:34:00,288 - The plan is at a standstill here, guys. 664 00:34:01,081 --> 00:34:03,667 - You understand we've lost the, the camera. 665 00:34:04,542 --> 00:34:06,001 The same failure. 666 00:34:06,002 --> 00:34:07,545 The circuit breaker is out. 667 00:34:08,505 --> 00:34:10,005 {\an8}[Tam O'Shaughnessy] There was increasing frustration 668 00:34:10,006 --> 00:34:11,466 {\an8}in the control room. 669 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,093 {\an8}Lives were on the line. 670 00:34:13,385 --> 00:34:15,594 - Well, uh, fiddlesticks. 671 00:34:15,595 --> 00:34:17,264 We need to decide what we're gonna do here. 672 00:34:18,265 --> 00:34:19,598 CapCom, tell them to, 673 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,225 to go ahead and abort the grapple test. 674 00:34:21,226 --> 00:34:22,768 - Okay. - Then we'll talk about 675 00:34:22,769 --> 00:34:24,770 camera circuit breakers and reset some stuff later. 676 00:34:24,771 --> 00:34:26,522 [Sally Ride] We got data down here to look at then 677 00:34:26,523 --> 00:34:28,357 so let us think about that. 678 00:34:28,358 --> 00:34:29,858 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] She wanted to prove she could 679 00:34:29,859 --> 00:34:31,610 handle the pressure. 680 00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:32,653 [Sally Ride] Columbia, Houston, 681 00:34:32,654 --> 00:34:34,321 while we're looking into the camera problem, 682 00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:36,700 if you could give us spec one to a GNC machine, 683 00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:38,535 we'll start that. 684 00:34:39,786 --> 00:34:42,288 - She performed so well as CapCom. 685 00:34:42,289 --> 00:34:44,039 She was articulate. 686 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,460 She was good under pressure. Smart, worked hard. 687 00:34:48,586 --> 00:34:49,713 - Hi, Mom. 688 00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:52,382 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] And funny. 689 00:34:56,261 --> 00:34:57,720 [reporter] You were the first female CapCom. 690 00:34:57,721 --> 00:34:59,681 Were you scared? Did you love it? 691 00:35:00,015 --> 00:35:01,015 What, what, what were you thinking then? 692 00:35:01,016 --> 00:35:02,475 [Sally Ride] That was fun. 693 00:35:02,851 --> 00:35:04,560 That is, that is, next to flying, 694 00:35:04,561 --> 00:35:06,396 probably the best job in the astronaut office, 695 00:35:06,730 --> 00:35:10,524 'cause I thought that it was, it was really an honor to be 696 00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:12,402 the one that gets to talk to the crew. 697 00:35:12,986 --> 00:35:16,072 Um, and I was scared to death. 698 00:35:24,873 --> 00:35:26,291 [laughs] 699 00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:29,960 - So this, I can't remember what year this was, 700 00:35:29,961 --> 00:35:31,962 but this is Billie Jean King, 701 00:35:31,963 --> 00:35:34,883 the fabulous tennis player, and Sally. 702 00:35:36,843 --> 00:35:39,346 [Billie Jean King] I knew Sally in the early days. 703 00:35:40,722 --> 00:35:43,016 She loved sports. She loved tennis. 704 00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:47,312 She was a camp counselor at Tennis America. 705 00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:50,522 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Tennis America was a really cool 706 00:35:50,523 --> 00:35:53,652 tennis camp that Billie Jean King started. 707 00:35:54,486 --> 00:35:57,404 Sally was the best tennis player of all the tennis kids 708 00:35:57,405 --> 00:35:59,406 and counselors at the camp, 709 00:35:59,407 --> 00:36:01,534 and they became lifelong friends. 710 00:36:03,453 --> 00:36:05,371 [reporter] It has been a spectacular career. 711 00:36:05,372 --> 00:36:07,373 Billie Jean King has done for women's tennis what 712 00:36:07,374 --> 00:36:09,209 Muhammad Ali did for boxing. 713 00:36:09,626 --> 00:36:11,460 She has won 20 Wimbledon titles and 714 00:36:11,461 --> 00:36:14,213 13 United States Open titles. 715 00:36:14,214 --> 00:36:17,383 {\an8}[Sally Ride] I have a lot of respect for her as a person. 716 00:36:17,384 --> 00:36:19,760 {\an8}I think that she's done a lot for women and is the 717 00:36:19,761 --> 00:36:22,889 kind of person that can speak out articulately on things. 718 00:36:23,223 --> 00:36:24,683 I admire her a lot. 719 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,226 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally grew up watching Billie Jean, 720 00:36:27,227 --> 00:36:30,814 hearing about her advocacy for girls and women. 721 00:36:31,606 --> 00:36:34,400 Through Billie Jean, Sally learned what a 722 00:36:34,401 --> 00:36:35,985 champion looks like. 723 00:36:38,405 --> 00:36:41,324 And then, Billie Jean's life turned upside down. 724 00:36:42,075 --> 00:36:44,118 - Billie Jean King has been served with a homosexual 725 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:46,787 palimony suit by a woman claiming she and the tennis 726 00:36:46,788 --> 00:36:48,580 star were lovers for several years. 727 00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:52,000 - Last week Billie Jean King told us of her lesbian affair. 728 00:36:52,001 --> 00:36:54,044 The snickers could be heard worldwide. 729 00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:56,004 The media had a field day with the story. 730 00:36:56,005 --> 00:36:58,590 - The tennis star admitted at a news conference that 731 00:36:58,591 --> 00:37:01,720 she'd had an affair some years back with her secretary. 732 00:37:03,388 --> 00:37:06,015 {\an8}- When I got outed, I lost every endorsement overnight. 733 00:37:07,308 --> 00:37:09,811 {\an8}So that's it. So I had to start over. 734 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,105 I had to pay a lot of money to the lawyers and 735 00:37:13,106 --> 00:37:15,859 I have to start over, financially, every way. 736 00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:17,693 - Tennis star, Billie Jean King, 737 00:37:17,694 --> 00:37:20,947 has been dropped from her vitamin advertising campaign. 738 00:37:21,364 --> 00:37:23,157 {\an8}- My mom used to say, 739 00:37:23,158 --> 00:37:25,452 {\an8}"Billie Jean, don't forget your vitamins." 740 00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:30,165 It was downhill for a lot of years. 741 00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:32,417 Yeah. 742 00:37:33,084 --> 00:37:38,047 - Any gay, you know, person of any renown, 743 00:37:38,923 --> 00:37:41,091 they'd have to sit and think twice, 744 00:37:41,092 --> 00:37:43,177 "You know, look what happened to Billie Jean." 745 00:37:43,178 --> 00:37:46,014 It must have sort of served as a warning. 746 00:37:48,391 --> 00:37:49,433 [Billie Jean King] Sally was probably thinking, 747 00:37:49,434 --> 00:37:52,144 "Well, I'm not going there. 748 00:37:52,145 --> 00:37:53,562 Oh, my God, if that happened to Billie, 749 00:37:53,563 --> 00:37:55,773 what's gonna happen if I say anything 750 00:37:55,774 --> 00:37:57,525 in this program?" 751 00:37:58,109 --> 00:37:59,485 Being in the closet, 752 00:37:59,486 --> 00:38:03,490 everything you do was measured and careful, 753 00:38:05,408 --> 00:38:08,203 and you have to decide what to say and what not to say. 754 00:38:09,162 --> 00:38:10,705 It's exhausting. 755 00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:14,667 So you can never reveal much of yourself. 756 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:32,769 ♪ I've been waiting patiently for my dream lover ♪ 757 00:38:33,686 --> 00:38:35,814 ♪ To come to me. ♪ 758 00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:37,815 ♪ Hoping you would say. ♪ 759 00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:40,025 [reporter] Astronaut Sally Ride and Steve Hawley got married 760 00:38:40,026 --> 00:38:41,777 last month in Salina, Kansas. 761 00:38:41,778 --> 00:38:44,072 They kept the news secret until this week. 762 00:38:46,032 --> 00:38:48,033 [Lynn Sherr] Steve's father and Sally's sister, 763 00:38:48,034 --> 00:38:50,203 both ministers, did the ceremony. 764 00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:52,747 I didn't even know about it until after it happened. 765 00:38:53,081 --> 00:38:54,915 Steve sorta didn't realize they were getting married either 766 00:38:54,916 --> 00:38:56,417 till they finally got married. 767 00:38:57,460 --> 00:38:59,628 [Bear Ride] We were kinda surprised when Sally said that 768 00:38:59,629 --> 00:39:00,921 they were gonna get married. 769 00:39:00,922 --> 00:39:04,633 Somehow I had sort of never pictured Sally getting married, 770 00:39:04,634 --> 00:39:06,219 but there you had it. 771 00:39:07,095 --> 00:39:09,305 [Lynn Sherr] It was an unusual wedding, to say the least. 772 00:39:09,806 --> 00:39:11,598 They both wore white, white jeans. 773 00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:14,185 ♪ Welcome baby to my heart. ♪ 774 00:39:15,478 --> 00:39:17,230 [crew] Take one, sound 21. 775 00:39:18,898 --> 00:39:20,315 - Uh, my name is Steve Hawley. 776 00:39:20,316 --> 00:39:21,860 I'm from Salina, Kansas. 777 00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:23,569 I'm Steve Hawley. 778 00:39:23,570 --> 00:39:28,867 I was a member of the class of 1978 shuttle astronaut, 779 00:39:29,325 --> 00:39:30,784 Sally was too. 780 00:39:30,785 --> 00:39:32,328 So we were classmates. 781 00:39:33,204 --> 00:39:34,663 I would say our relationship was always 782 00:39:34,664 --> 00:39:36,331 sort of nontraditional. 783 00:39:36,332 --> 00:39:37,791 Part of that was our personalities, 784 00:39:37,792 --> 00:39:39,460 part of it was the jobs we had. 785 00:39:40,253 --> 00:39:41,587 [reporter] When you have two astronauts married 786 00:39:41,588 --> 00:39:43,255 to each other, is it different from say 787 00:39:43,256 --> 00:39:44,798 two teachers or two lawyers? 788 00:39:44,799 --> 00:39:46,301 Do you bring your work home with you? 789 00:39:46,676 --> 00:39:48,844 - My guess is teachers would talk about teaching at home. 790 00:39:48,845 --> 00:39:52,264 We talk about flight rules and flight performance reserves and 791 00:39:52,265 --> 00:39:54,975 ISPs and solid rocket motor performance and 792 00:39:54,976 --> 00:39:56,018 things like that. 793 00:39:56,019 --> 00:39:57,562 But it's 'cause we enjoy it. 794 00:39:57,937 --> 00:39:59,438 She had a great sense of humor. 795 00:39:59,439 --> 00:40:00,856 She was athletic. 796 00:40:00,857 --> 00:40:03,400 I was a little concerned that I might not be able to 797 00:40:03,401 --> 00:40:05,069 keep up with Sally. 798 00:40:08,865 --> 00:40:11,033 {\an8}[Tam O'Shaughnessy] It just didn't gel with me. 799 00:40:11,034 --> 00:40:12,869 {\an8}It didn't feel quite right. 800 00:40:13,494 --> 00:40:15,872 {\an8}It just didn't feel like Sally. 801 00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:20,334 - Certainly one of my first thoughts was, 802 00:40:20,335 --> 00:40:21,960 "Great PR move. 803 00:40:21,961 --> 00:40:25,172 That's gonna make for all the right publicity photos. 804 00:40:25,173 --> 00:40:27,507 Handsome young astronaut couple. 805 00:40:27,508 --> 00:40:29,469 Just fits a nice, neat package." 806 00:40:29,677 --> 00:40:32,388 [reporter] What is your idea of a great evening at home? 807 00:40:33,681 --> 00:40:35,099 - That one's easy. - Yeah. 808 00:40:35,391 --> 00:40:37,601 - Lying in front of the television set with basically, 809 00:40:37,602 --> 00:40:39,853 {\an8}with our brains turned off, I think. 810 00:40:39,854 --> 00:40:41,438 {\an8}- Yeah, it's, it's so uncommon, I guess, 811 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:43,857 {\an8}that we have a chance to, to be together with nothing 812 00:40:43,858 --> 00:40:46,693 {\an8}to do that we very much enjoy the times when we can 813 00:40:46,694 --> 00:40:48,363 absolutely do nothing. 814 00:40:49,238 --> 00:40:53,618 I can't say for sure that I know what motivated her 815 00:40:53,785 --> 00:40:56,829 to want to go ahead and get married. 816 00:40:57,956 --> 00:40:59,331 At the time I thought, 817 00:40:59,332 --> 00:41:00,917 "Great, you know?" That's what I wanted too." 818 00:41:02,377 --> 00:41:04,711 It just felt like we were getting married, both of us, 819 00:41:04,712 --> 00:41:06,172 in good faith. 820 00:41:06,673 --> 00:41:08,424 [Anna Fisher] She may have felt pressure, in case, 821 00:41:08,967 --> 00:41:11,886 anybody thought she was gay. 822 00:41:14,055 --> 00:41:17,642 - I don't know what mixture her motives might have been. 823 00:41:18,977 --> 00:41:20,269 It might have been... 824 00:41:20,395 --> 00:41:22,062 NASA was barely ready for women. 825 00:41:22,063 --> 00:41:23,648 They're not ready for this. 826 00:41:24,232 --> 00:41:26,858 [Molly Tyson] One time a very close friend asked Sally 827 00:41:26,859 --> 00:41:28,694 directly, "Were you in a sexual relationship with Molly?" 828 00:41:28,695 --> 00:41:31,531 She said, "Molly wanted it, but I didn't." 829 00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:36,119 She had this really difficult line to walk. 830 00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:40,790 It seems like a pretty good strategy to find someone 831 00:41:40,915 --> 00:41:42,333 within the club. 832 00:41:43,710 --> 00:41:45,503 It would serve her well. 833 00:41:45,628 --> 00:41:47,422 You know, it would check another box. 834 00:41:53,553 --> 00:41:54,511 [Tam O'Shaughnessy] Oh, God. 835 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:56,180 Okay. 836 00:41:56,764 --> 00:42:02,061 So Sally would just send these sweet funky notes to me. 837 00:42:02,812 --> 00:42:03,979 So this one, 838 00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:08,401 "Dear Tam, while I was fooling around with trig identities, 839 00:42:09,318 --> 00:42:10,944 I decided to tackle the problem of red 840 00:42:10,945 --> 00:42:13,281 plus green equals yellow. 841 00:42:14,991 --> 00:42:16,701 It works." 842 00:42:21,289 --> 00:42:25,292 And so she actually did the math to show how you get yellow. 843 00:42:25,293 --> 00:42:26,836 Red plus green equals yellow. 844 00:42:27,712 --> 00:42:29,796 "Isn't physics wonderful? 845 00:42:29,797 --> 00:42:31,214 You sure are. 846 00:42:31,215 --> 00:42:32,884 Love, the mad physicist." 847 00:42:33,843 --> 00:42:36,387 It's, it's a classic note from Sally. 848 00:42:37,305 --> 00:42:39,223 It's just, it's fabulous. 849 00:42:50,193 --> 00:42:52,820 [Mike Mullane] One morning, George Abbey called a meeting. 850 00:42:53,613 --> 00:42:55,406 - Ken, you wanna get that back door? 851 00:42:57,408 --> 00:43:01,704 - And he stood there and announced the crew for STS-7. 852 00:43:04,373 --> 00:43:06,000 [John Fabian] Four names were announced. 853 00:43:06,626 --> 00:43:09,295 There was a rather silent reaction. 854 00:43:11,047 --> 00:43:12,798 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] There were rumors that 855 00:43:12,799 --> 00:43:15,133 Judy was the number one choice, 856 00:43:15,134 --> 00:43:17,969 but George Abbey thought that Judy liked the 857 00:43:17,970 --> 00:43:20,556 spotlight too much and Sally could care less. 858 00:43:21,557 --> 00:43:25,103 So he convinced the others that it should be Sally. 859 00:43:27,188 --> 00:43:29,816 {\an8}[Sally Ride] We'd been in training for four years, 860 00:43:30,191 --> 00:43:31,567 {\an8}building up to this point. 861 00:43:32,652 --> 00:43:35,363 And that's when George Abbey told me that I was gonna 862 00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:37,865 be the first American woman to go into space. 863 00:43:47,416 --> 00:43:49,751 I was numb and I really don't have any recollection 864 00:43:49,752 --> 00:43:51,503 of how I felt. 865 00:43:51,504 --> 00:43:54,172 I know that they wouldn't let us tell anybody else. 866 00:43:54,173 --> 00:43:56,216 I just remember kind of walking around in a fog with 867 00:43:56,217 --> 00:43:58,510 John Fabian most of the day, because he was in the same fog 868 00:43:58,511 --> 00:43:59,970 that I was. 869 00:43:59,971 --> 00:44:01,389 And that's about all that I remember. 870 00:44:01,848 --> 00:44:04,600 - It was a feeling of unbelievable joy. 871 00:44:05,393 --> 00:44:07,519 Sally and I were among the first people in our 872 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,313 class to fly. 873 00:44:10,273 --> 00:44:13,025 She had earned that position on the first flight. 874 00:44:13,985 --> 00:44:16,945 The balance that she had in her personality, 875 00:44:16,946 --> 00:44:20,241 the seriousness with which she assumed her responsibilities, 876 00:44:21,284 --> 00:44:24,077 her knowledge of the systems. 877 00:44:24,078 --> 00:44:25,954 - Dr. Ride, what does it mean to you personally, 878 00:44:25,955 --> 00:44:28,666 this achievement of, of going into space? 879 00:44:29,250 --> 00:44:30,375 [Sally Ride] Oh, this is something that I've been 880 00:44:30,376 --> 00:44:32,752 looking forward to ever since I came to NASA for the 881 00:44:32,753 --> 00:44:34,504 last four years. 882 00:44:34,505 --> 00:44:36,506 {\an8}And it's a, it's a culmination of the work that I've been 883 00:44:36,507 --> 00:44:38,633 {\an8}doing since I came to NASA. 884 00:44:38,634 --> 00:44:41,429 {\an8}And I'm, I'm just thrilled to death to be able to do it. 885 00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:49,561 ♪ Sun is shinin' in the sky. ♪ 886 00:44:49,562 --> 00:44:52,523 ♪ There ain't a cloud in sight. ♪ 887 00:44:53,566 --> 00:44:54,900 [reporter] It'll be the seventh shuttle mission, 888 00:44:54,901 --> 00:44:57,777 but it will also be a first, for aboard will be America's 889 00:44:57,778 --> 00:45:00,781 first female astronaut, a woman named Sally Ride. 890 00:45:02,742 --> 00:45:04,868 [reporter] The 30-year-old astrophysicist will perform 891 00:45:04,869 --> 00:45:06,746 experiments aboard the shuttle Challenger, 892 00:45:07,205 --> 00:45:09,080 the first American woman in space. 893 00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:13,753 ♪ Mr. Blue Sky is living here today, hey. ♪ 894 00:45:22,595 --> 00:45:25,013 - I flew a lot with Sally. 895 00:45:25,014 --> 00:45:26,891 Sally was a really, really good pilot. 896 00:45:28,392 --> 00:45:30,728 One time, I asked Sally if she would go with me. 897 00:45:31,562 --> 00:45:34,064 We flew out over the Gulf of Mexico. 898 00:45:34,065 --> 00:45:36,025 We went through all of the acrobatics. 899 00:45:37,318 --> 00:45:39,736 Things like turning yourself upside down and then diving 900 00:45:39,737 --> 00:45:41,947 towards the Earth and pulling out the bottom, 901 00:45:41,948 --> 00:45:44,116 it's called a "Split S Maneuver," 902 00:45:44,951 --> 00:45:47,495 and doing a complete circle. 903 00:45:48,788 --> 00:45:50,873 And Sally is back there going, "Wee!" 904 00:45:51,582 --> 00:45:55,336 It came natural. No training required. 905 00:45:58,673 --> 00:46:00,883 ♪ Mr. Blue Sky. ♪ 906 00:46:02,969 --> 00:46:05,972 ♪ Mr. Blue Sky. ♪ 907 00:46:08,307 --> 00:46:11,602 ♪ Mr. Blue Sky. ♪ 908 00:46:14,814 --> 00:46:16,189 ♪ Mr. Blue, you did it right. ♪ 909 00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:17,607 [reporter] What does it feel like to be flying? 910 00:46:17,608 --> 00:46:18,858 Is it a freedom kind of thing? 911 00:46:18,859 --> 00:46:20,610 [Sally Ride] It's a feeling of being a little bit 912 00:46:20,611 --> 00:46:22,696 above everything, being able to see a lot and 913 00:46:22,697 --> 00:46:24,615 just kind of having the wind blow in your face. 914 00:46:24,949 --> 00:46:26,616 It's a feeling really of exhilaration. 915 00:46:26,617 --> 00:46:28,076 ♪ I'll remember you this, ♪ 916 00:46:28,077 --> 00:46:31,621 ♪ I'll remember you this way. ♪ 917 00:46:31,622 --> 00:46:35,375 ♪ Mr. Blue Sky, please tell us why you had to hide away ♪ 918 00:46:35,376 --> 00:46:37,252 ♪ For so long. ♪ 919 00:46:37,253 --> 00:46:38,295 ♪ So long. ♪ 920 00:46:38,296 --> 00:46:39,671 ♪ Where did we go wrong? ♪ 921 00:46:39,672 --> 00:46:40,714 [reporter] Are you excited? 922 00:46:40,715 --> 00:46:42,174 - Oh, yeah. 923 00:46:42,883 --> 00:46:44,634 [reporter] George Abbey says one of the things they did look 924 00:46:44,635 --> 00:46:46,803 at after you were selected was to figure out whether you could 925 00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:49,514 handle the stress that might come from being the first woman. 926 00:46:49,515 --> 00:46:50,557 Do you think you can? 927 00:46:50,558 --> 00:46:52,310 - I hope I can. 928 00:46:57,523 --> 00:46:59,149 [crew] Camera roll one. 929 00:46:59,150 --> 00:47:04,655 Packing for, into the shuttle, uh, cartons, whatever. 930 00:47:08,242 --> 00:47:10,285 [Kathy Sullivan] When the run-up to Sally's flight, 931 00:47:10,286 --> 00:47:12,537 there's this question of, "Are there really issues with 932 00:47:12,538 --> 00:47:13,580 a woman flying? 933 00:47:13,581 --> 00:47:15,249 Have we thought of them all?" 934 00:47:20,087 --> 00:47:21,838 There was a very conventional set of things in 935 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:23,549 the men's toiletry kits. 936 00:47:27,219 --> 00:47:30,723 But what should go in the equivalent kit for a woman? 937 00:47:32,016 --> 00:47:34,559 Sally was the first woman to take stock of what 938 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,228 they call crew equipment. 939 00:47:37,938 --> 00:47:40,441 {\an8}[Sally Ride] They knew that a guy might want a shaving kit. 940 00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:43,319 {\an8}But they didn't know what a female astronaut would take. 941 00:47:44,028 --> 00:47:46,947 And so the engineers at NASA in their infinite wisdom... 942 00:47:49,367 --> 00:47:51,202 ...designed a makeup kit. 943 00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:54,705 You know, a makeup kit brought to you by NASA engineers. 944 00:47:58,417 --> 00:48:00,251 And then they asked how many tampons. 945 00:48:00,252 --> 00:48:02,213 Should fly on a one-week flight. 946 00:48:03,089 --> 00:48:05,590 [Kathy Sullivan] She gets to one of these toiletry kits and 947 00:48:05,591 --> 00:48:08,177 it's a spring-loaded canvas-covered thing. 948 00:48:08,969 --> 00:48:10,513 She pops it open. 949 00:48:10,888 --> 00:48:11,805 [Sally Ride] He asked me, 950 00:48:11,806 --> 00:48:13,139 "Is 100 the right number?" 951 00:48:13,140 --> 00:48:15,935 I said, "No." "That would not be the right number." 952 00:48:16,352 --> 00:48:18,269 [Kathy Sullivan] Sally keeps pulling this out like one of 953 00:48:18,270 --> 00:48:19,980 those exploding snakes in a party trick. 954 00:48:21,649 --> 00:48:24,275 All six of us for at least half a year, 955 00:48:24,276 --> 00:48:26,237 would not have used every tampon that was in there. 956 00:48:32,118 --> 00:48:34,244 [crew] 5-24-83. 957 00:48:34,245 --> 00:48:36,496 Crew pre-flight press conference. 958 00:48:36,497 --> 00:48:39,083 Camera roll one, sound roll one. 959 00:48:39,708 --> 00:48:40,959 - Good afternoon. 960 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,837 {\an8}It's really a pleasure to see such a, a large gathering. 961 00:48:43,838 --> 00:48:46,005 {\an8}I thought the flying of the shuttle would become rather 962 00:48:46,006 --> 00:48:49,008 {\an8}mundane and we couldn't bring out this size of group. 963 00:48:49,009 --> 00:48:51,137 I think we know why most people are here though. 964 00:48:55,433 --> 00:48:57,267 Sally, why don't you give us a rundown of some of the 965 00:48:57,268 --> 00:48:59,561 experiments that you're dealing with? 966 00:48:59,562 --> 00:49:02,689 - Okay, well, we're starting off the on-orbit operations 967 00:49:02,690 --> 00:49:04,191 really on flight day one. 968 00:49:04,650 --> 00:49:08,529 {\an8}The only bad moments in our training involved the press. 969 00:49:09,613 --> 00:49:11,657 {\an8}They didn't care about how well prepared I was to operate 970 00:49:11,907 --> 00:49:14,243 the arm or deploy communication satellites. 971 00:49:15,077 --> 00:49:19,290 They wanted to know what I thought was extraneous things. 972 00:49:20,291 --> 00:49:22,917 [reporter] Uh, Sally, has it taken a little bit getting used 973 00:49:22,918 --> 00:49:26,629 to the idea of traveling in such tight quarters 974 00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:28,590 with four men? 975 00:49:28,591 --> 00:49:30,300 And do they tend to defer you? 976 00:49:30,301 --> 00:49:33,470 Do they continue their gentlemanly ways when they're 977 00:49:33,471 --> 00:49:35,096 with you in training? 978 00:49:35,097 --> 00:49:36,764 - It really hasn't taken any getting used to. 979 00:49:36,765 --> 00:49:39,350 I haven't, haven't felt like I've been deferred 980 00:49:39,351 --> 00:49:41,519 to in any way. 981 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,440 In fact, Crip won't even open doors for me anymore. 982 00:49:45,774 --> 00:49:47,400 - I learned that right away, Morgan. 983 00:49:47,401 --> 00:49:49,944 [reporter] Dr. Ride, do you have any plans to 984 00:49:49,945 --> 00:49:51,739 be the first mother who has traveled to space? 985 00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:57,285 And Dr. Thagard, are there any reasons to be concerned about 986 00:49:57,286 --> 00:49:59,997 the effects of travel in space on childbearing? 987 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:04,668 - Go ahead, Norm. 988 00:50:05,878 --> 00:50:08,005 - Well, I'm not personally concerned. 989 00:50:09,006 --> 00:50:10,715 - Jerry Henderson, Time magazine. 990 00:50:10,716 --> 00:50:13,718 Dr. Ride, a couple of fast, quick questions here, 991 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,513 sir, ma'am? 992 00:50:16,180 --> 00:50:18,515 What are you gonna do after the end of this flight? 993 00:50:18,516 --> 00:50:21,059 Are you gonna, do you sense you'll become a footnote in 994 00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:23,186 history, or will you go on the shelf? 995 00:50:23,187 --> 00:50:25,397 What are your forward plans after this flight? 996 00:50:25,731 --> 00:50:27,608 - Cancel your subscription to Time? 997 00:50:28,234 --> 00:50:31,153 - Now, Dr. Ride, during your training exercises, 998 00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:35,490 as a member of this group, when there was a problem, 999 00:50:35,491 --> 00:50:38,243 when there was a funny glitch or whatever, 1000 00:50:38,244 --> 00:50:41,037 how did you respond? 1001 00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:42,330 Do you, do you weep? 1002 00:50:42,331 --> 00:50:43,874 Do you, what do you do? 1003 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,212 - Why doesn't anybody ask Rick those questions? 1004 00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:55,093 - That's, the commander weeps. 1005 00:50:55,094 --> 00:50:57,178 [Sally Ride] I don't think that I react any differently than 1006 00:50:57,179 --> 00:50:59,431 anybody else on the crew does. 1007 00:51:01,767 --> 00:51:04,728 - Anything else from Washington? 1008 00:51:10,776 --> 00:51:12,026 - Okay. You ready? 1009 00:51:12,027 --> 00:51:14,112 [crew] Uh-hmm. Go ahead. 1010 00:51:14,113 --> 00:51:16,072 - Molly, first of all, you're very close to Sally Ride. 1011 00:51:16,073 --> 00:51:17,991 You lived with her during the college years. 1012 00:51:17,992 --> 00:51:19,784 - Mm-hmm. 1013 00:51:19,785 --> 00:51:21,744 - Is this gonna be your first launch you've ever seen? 1014 00:51:21,745 --> 00:51:23,997 - Yeah, I've seen them on television. 1015 00:51:23,998 --> 00:51:25,582 But this is the first time I, I will have been. 1016 00:51:25,583 --> 00:51:28,251 Sally invited me to the launch. 1017 00:51:28,252 --> 00:51:31,337 And there were lots of wonderful gatherings for the, 1018 00:51:31,338 --> 00:51:33,173 the friends and family of the astronauts. 1019 00:51:34,174 --> 00:51:36,759 And so I was attending those with my girlfriend 1020 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,887 at the time, so it was pretty fun. 1021 00:51:40,139 --> 00:51:42,682 And then I got a note slipped to me. 1022 00:51:42,683 --> 00:51:45,476 That said, "Sally wants you to come for lunch at 1023 00:51:45,477 --> 00:51:47,021 the beach house." 1024 00:51:47,646 --> 00:51:49,480 And a little hand-drawn map. 1025 00:51:49,481 --> 00:51:50,857 The implication was, 1026 00:51:50,858 --> 00:51:53,067 "Don't tell anyone you're doing this 'cause nobody 1027 00:51:53,068 --> 00:51:54,820 can see them during this period." 1028 00:51:56,739 --> 00:51:59,324 You have to make sure you're not bringing in any germs and 1029 00:51:59,325 --> 00:52:00,658 so I had a physical. 1030 00:52:00,659 --> 00:52:03,996 And then I was ushered into the inner sanctum. 1031 00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:06,497 So that was my chance to see Sally with 1032 00:52:06,498 --> 00:52:08,334 these other astronauts. 1033 00:52:08,917 --> 00:52:11,587 And she just so much blended in. 1034 00:52:14,006 --> 00:52:16,841 They just exuded this kind of quiet confidence, 1035 00:52:16,842 --> 00:52:17,884 you know? 1036 00:52:17,885 --> 00:52:20,721 It was almost a humility that you want your heroes to have. 1037 00:52:23,140 --> 00:52:25,892 And then she was showing me her flight suit and 1038 00:52:25,893 --> 00:52:28,270 she's showing me her room and stuff like that. 1039 00:52:30,522 --> 00:52:32,023 And she said, 1040 00:52:32,024 --> 00:52:35,360 "I'm aware that this is not without risks, 1041 00:52:35,361 --> 00:52:37,487 I could die." 1042 00:52:37,488 --> 00:52:39,947 It was one of the very few times in our lives 1043 00:52:39,948 --> 00:52:42,284 that she had seemed vulnerable to me. 1044 00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:52,001 {\an8}[Tam O'Shaughnessy] The night before Sally's launch, 1045 00:52:52,002 --> 00:52:54,546 {\an8}she told me that she was afraid, that she was scared, 1046 00:52:56,173 --> 00:52:59,967 and that a former astronaut told her that if you're not 1047 00:52:59,968 --> 00:53:02,596 afraid, you don't know what's about to happen. 1048 00:53:05,265 --> 00:53:08,601 So she was fully aware that she was gonna be riding on 1049 00:53:08,602 --> 00:53:12,022 tons of rocket fuel that was exploding beneath her. 1050 00:53:12,731 --> 00:53:14,942 Anything could happen. 1051 00:53:16,318 --> 00:53:17,985 [John Fabian] The night before you go fly, 1052 00:53:17,986 --> 00:53:19,946 you look to the north, the west, and the south and 1053 00:53:19,947 --> 00:53:22,156 this constant line of headlights that's 1054 00:53:22,157 --> 00:53:23,742 coming out to the Cape. 1055 00:53:25,285 --> 00:53:27,495 They're coming to watch you fly and you hope they're 1056 00:53:27,496 --> 00:53:29,456 not coming to see you crash. 1057 00:53:31,291 --> 00:53:35,003 {\an8}[reporter] Your most remarked upon attribute is you're cool. 1058 00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:37,715 {\an8}Have you ever buckled under pressure? 1059 00:53:39,883 --> 00:53:40,967 {\an8}- Not that I can think of, 1060 00:53:40,968 --> 00:53:43,636 {\an8}but on the other hand I'm not sure that I've ever been under 1061 00:53:43,637 --> 00:53:45,681 {\an8}that much pressure in my life. 1062 00:53:46,265 --> 00:53:47,849 {\an8}[reporter] Will there be no second thoughts 1063 00:53:47,850 --> 00:53:49,810 {\an8}for you personally? 1064 00:53:50,811 --> 00:53:51,769 [Sally Ride] I don't think so. 1065 00:53:51,770 --> 00:53:53,688 I, I guess that when they close the hatch and 1066 00:53:53,689 --> 00:53:54,939 light the engines, 1067 00:53:54,940 --> 00:53:57,735 I might, I might change my mind, 1068 00:53:58,152 --> 00:53:59,986 but I'm really looking forward to it. 1069 00:53:59,987 --> 00:54:01,070 [reporter] I think that would be too late. 1070 00:54:01,071 --> 00:54:03,239 I think that would be, very much, too late. 1071 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:04,950 [Sally Ride] Yes. 1072 00:54:09,371 --> 00:54:13,083 {\an8}[♪ inspirational music playing] 1073 00:54:18,130 --> 00:54:22,342 [♪ inspirational music playing] 1074 00:54:23,177 --> 00:54:24,218 [Lynn Sherr] Good morning. 1075 00:54:24,219 --> 00:54:27,221 {\an8}It is a beautiful day and indeed this is Sally Ride's 1076 00:54:27,222 --> 00:54:29,056 {\an8}day to make history. 1077 00:54:29,057 --> 00:54:32,226 Plenty of proud people, particularly female people, 1078 00:54:32,227 --> 00:54:35,814 are on hand to watch America's first woman go into space. 1079 00:54:37,274 --> 00:54:40,526 There were some half a million people who showed up at the 1080 00:54:40,527 --> 00:54:43,362 Kennedy Space Center and the surrounding area to 1081 00:54:43,363 --> 00:54:45,364 watch this happen. 1082 00:54:45,365 --> 00:54:48,744 And many of them brought their daughters, little daughters, 1083 00:54:49,369 --> 00:54:50,704 sometimes just babies. 1084 00:54:56,502 --> 00:54:58,878 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally could invite 50 friends and family, 1085 00:54:58,879 --> 00:55:02,716 so she invited her friends from Stanford, tennis friends, 1086 00:55:03,467 --> 00:55:05,259 and Gloria Steinem, 1087 00:55:05,260 --> 00:55:07,513 Jane Fonda, and she invited me. 1088 00:55:08,722 --> 00:55:10,139 It was just unbelievable. 1089 00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:12,267 I get chills now just remembering it. 1090 00:55:14,186 --> 00:55:16,729 {\an8}[Sally Ride] On launch day there was so much 1091 00:55:16,730 --> 00:55:18,398 {\an8}happening around us. 1092 00:55:19,316 --> 00:55:22,151 {\an8}I spent an enormous amount of effort just trying to stay 1093 00:55:22,152 --> 00:55:26,572 focused because it would have been way too easy to 1094 00:55:26,573 --> 00:55:28,492 just be lost in the moment. 1095 00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:33,956 [reporter] The crew comes out led by Commander Bob Crippen. 1096 00:55:36,124 --> 00:55:37,709 And the crew will be going out to the pad. 1097 00:55:41,004 --> 00:55:42,672 [Mike Mullane] At the pad, Sally would have looked 1098 00:55:42,673 --> 00:55:44,131 at that vehicle. 1099 00:55:44,132 --> 00:55:47,009 There's a soul-stirring moment when you're standing there, 1100 00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:49,136 the vapor around it. 1101 00:55:49,137 --> 00:55:51,681 One of those really moments that, "My God, 1102 00:55:51,682 --> 00:55:53,517 I'm really gonna do this." 1103 00:55:54,142 --> 00:55:58,020 {\an8}[Sally Ride] Looking up and seeing this huge rocket that 1104 00:55:58,021 --> 00:56:00,566 {\an8}kind of sounds like an animal. 1105 00:56:00,899 --> 00:56:03,859 {\an8}You can kinda hear the gurgling and the hissing and it sounds 1106 00:56:03,860 --> 00:56:05,653 like it's alive. 1107 00:56:05,654 --> 00:56:09,115 [controller] The countdown clock at T-minus two hours, 1108 00:56:09,116 --> 00:56:11,243 five minutes, thirty seconds and counting. 1109 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,787 This is shuttle launch control. 1110 00:56:14,454 --> 00:56:17,707 - Ready for a big day. - We got pretty day out here. 1111 00:56:17,708 --> 00:56:19,208 - Good looking machine. 1112 00:56:19,209 --> 00:56:22,587 - The commander and pilot will have their seats adjusted and 1113 00:56:22,588 --> 00:56:25,007 be placed in the proper position for launch. 1114 00:56:25,882 --> 00:56:26,882 Mission specialist, 1115 00:56:26,883 --> 00:56:30,428 Dr. Sally Ride, now completing her preparations 1116 00:56:30,429 --> 00:56:32,472 for ingress into the orbiter. 1117 00:56:33,432 --> 00:56:36,601 T minus one hour thirty minutes and counting. 1118 00:56:36,602 --> 00:56:39,145 All five of our flight crew are onboard now. 1119 00:56:39,146 --> 00:56:42,524 Okay, we have the final pilot on the port. 1120 00:56:43,066 --> 00:56:45,152 The hatch's closeout is complete. 1121 00:56:46,528 --> 00:56:48,404 [Sally Ride] Once we were inside the space shuttle 1122 00:56:48,405 --> 00:56:53,743 strapped into our seats and waiting and waiting as the 1123 00:56:53,744 --> 00:56:56,747 countdown got closer and closer to zero, 1124 00:56:59,666 --> 00:57:02,418 my mind started wandering and I, to focus it, 1125 00:57:02,419 --> 00:57:05,505 I focused on the most mundane things. 1126 00:57:07,007 --> 00:57:09,551 Where was my pencil? 1127 00:57:10,260 --> 00:57:11,761 Looks like it's about, I don't know, 1128 00:57:11,762 --> 00:57:13,095 a couple centimeters misplaced. 1129 00:57:13,096 --> 00:57:15,015 I better move it. 1130 00:57:19,519 --> 00:57:21,896 [controller] T-minus three minutes, twenty-five seconds. 1131 00:57:21,897 --> 00:57:24,982 The movement check of the main engines is underway. 1132 00:57:24,983 --> 00:57:28,486 T minus two minutes, fifteen seconds and counting. 1133 00:57:28,487 --> 00:57:31,406 The main engines have been moved to start position. 1134 00:57:35,786 --> 00:57:40,331 T-minus ten, nine, eight, seven, six. 1135 00:57:40,332 --> 00:57:42,041 We go for main engine start. 1136 00:57:42,042 --> 00:57:44,085 We have main engine start. 1137 00:57:44,086 --> 00:57:46,338 And ignition. 1138 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,255 And liftoff. 1139 00:57:48,256 --> 00:57:52,344 Liftoff of STS-7 and America's first woman astronaut. 1140 00:57:52,928 --> 00:57:55,138 And the shuttle has cleared the tower. 1141 00:57:57,808 --> 00:57:59,518 - Watch your roll, Challenger. 1142 00:58:00,018 --> 00:58:01,519 Houston now controlling. 1143 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,272 Mission Control confirms all maneuvers started. 1144 00:58:06,566 --> 00:58:07,984 Twenty seconds. 1145 00:58:08,402 --> 00:58:09,736 Thrust looks good. 1146 00:58:21,415 --> 00:58:22,833 [Sally Ride] This sure is fun. 1147 00:58:25,585 --> 00:58:27,586 [Sally Ride] For a few seconds, everyone on the crew, 1148 00:58:27,587 --> 00:58:30,089 we were just totally overcome. 1149 00:58:30,090 --> 00:58:32,550 [controller] Confirmed the solid rocket booster separation. 1150 00:58:32,551 --> 00:58:35,178 The booster is falling away now. 1151 00:58:35,637 --> 00:58:37,556 [Sally Ride] It was a feeling really of exhilaration. 1152 00:58:39,808 --> 00:58:42,435 [reporter] The shuttle Challenger has made it to space 1153 00:58:42,436 --> 00:58:46,022 once again and Sally Ride has made it to the history books. 1154 00:58:46,356 --> 00:58:48,859 - Gloria, it was so exciting. 1155 00:58:51,778 --> 00:58:53,696 {\an8}[Gloria Steinem] I was in the grandstand watching 1156 00:58:53,697 --> 00:58:55,740 {\an8}there at the launch. 1157 00:58:55,741 --> 00:58:58,034 {\an8}There were people with tears draining down their faces. 1158 00:58:58,535 --> 00:58:59,910 People I never would have expected. 1159 00:58:59,911 --> 00:59:02,496 You know, big diversity of people. 1160 00:59:02,497 --> 00:59:05,458 And yet they were all very moved by the human 1161 00:59:05,459 --> 00:59:07,085 audacity of it. 1162 00:59:39,951 --> 00:59:41,285 [Sally Ride] You know, there really isn't a way to 1163 00:59:41,286 --> 00:59:43,412 {\an8}train for being weightless. 1164 00:59:43,413 --> 00:59:46,999 {\an8}It's so far removed from a person's everyday experience 1165 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,586 {\an8}that even hearing other astronauts describe it, 1166 00:59:50,587 --> 00:59:53,632 didn't give me really a clue of how to prepare for it. 1167 00:59:54,633 --> 00:59:55,925 What I discovered was that, 1168 00:59:55,926 --> 00:59:58,260 although it took an hour or so to just get used 1169 00:59:58,261 --> 01:00:00,137 to moving around, 1170 01:00:00,138 --> 01:00:02,265 that I adapted to it actually pretty quickly. 1171 01:00:03,683 --> 01:00:05,184 [controller] Challenger, Houston got a good picture of 1172 01:00:05,185 --> 01:00:07,436 Norm and Sally now. 1173 01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:09,647 [Bob Crippen] Okay, Houston. Things are looking good onboard. 1174 01:00:09,648 --> 01:00:12,067 [controller] Roger. We copy and you all look good to us too. 1175 01:00:13,485 --> 01:00:15,862 [Sally Ride] I just, I love being weightless. 1176 01:00:16,696 --> 01:00:18,113 I think it's a feeling of freedom. 1177 01:00:18,114 --> 01:00:19,991 It's, it's really a neat feeling. 1178 01:00:27,082 --> 01:00:28,375 Good night, Norm. 1179 01:00:29,584 --> 01:00:31,127 [Norman Thagard] Good night, Sally. 1180 01:00:31,878 --> 01:00:33,213 [Sally Ride] Goodnight. 1181 01:00:39,678 --> 01:00:40,886 When I was a little girl, 1182 01:00:40,887 --> 01:00:43,181 I always dreamed of flying in space. 1183 01:00:46,226 --> 01:00:49,771 And unbelievably, that dream came true. 1184 01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:56,653 I can't explain why I wanted to do it. 1185 01:00:57,487 --> 01:00:59,865 It's just something that's a part of me. 1186 01:01:02,409 --> 01:01:04,910 I had the chance to float over to the window and 1187 01:01:04,911 --> 01:01:07,539 look out down at the Earth below. 1188 01:01:09,374 --> 01:01:12,501 At the absolutely spectacular view, 1189 01:01:12,502 --> 01:01:16,673 I could see coral reefs off the coast of Australia. 1190 01:01:18,216 --> 01:01:21,261 I could see glaciers in the Himalayas. 1191 01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:30,311 And the feeling of seeing your planet as a planet is 1192 01:01:30,312 --> 01:01:32,814 just an amazing feeling. 1193 01:01:33,982 --> 01:01:37,234 You can look at Earth's horizon and see this really, 1194 01:01:37,235 --> 01:01:39,654 really thin royal blue line. 1195 01:01:40,447 --> 01:01:42,698 And then you realize that it's Earth's atmosphere and 1196 01:01:42,699 --> 01:01:45,118 that that's all there is of it. 1197 01:01:45,869 --> 01:01:49,331 And it's about as thick as the fuzz on a tennis ball. 1198 01:01:49,998 --> 01:01:53,042 It's a totally different perspective. 1199 01:01:53,043 --> 01:01:56,588 And it makes you appreciate how fragile our existence is. 1200 01:02:00,634 --> 01:02:02,801 {\an8}[Tam O'Shaughnessy] It really changed her to see there's no 1201 01:02:02,802 --> 01:02:04,678 {\an8}borders around countries, 1202 01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:07,766 {\an8}just all the imaginary lines of humanity. 1203 01:02:10,268 --> 01:02:11,644 [Sally Ride] From that perspective, 1204 01:02:11,645 --> 01:02:14,481 all the tribal fears we hold on to about race, 1205 01:02:15,607 --> 01:02:21,196 gender, nationality, who we love, all the 1206 01:02:21,696 --> 01:02:25,032 arbitrary restrictions we place on ourselves and 1207 01:02:25,033 --> 01:02:27,911 on each other, they mean nothing. 1208 01:02:32,123 --> 01:02:35,001 [John Fabian] Sally was having the time of her life. 1209 01:02:36,586 --> 01:02:39,213 And at the same time probably was concerned about 1210 01:02:39,214 --> 01:02:40,674 what was gonna happen next. 1211 01:02:49,808 --> 01:02:51,850 [controller] This is shuttle control. 1212 01:02:51,851 --> 01:02:55,229 Challenger entered the sensible atmosphere at 1213 01:02:55,230 --> 01:02:56,982 approximately 400,000 feet. 1214 01:03:01,486 --> 01:03:03,946 [Bob Crippen] Houston, Challenger, loud and clear. 1215 01:03:03,947 --> 01:03:05,407 Nice and smooth all the way down. 1216 01:03:06,282 --> 01:03:07,701 [controller] Real good, Crip. 1217 01:03:10,996 --> 01:03:12,204 [Bob Crippen] I'll say it once more. 1218 01:03:12,205 --> 01:03:14,040 What a way to come to California. 1219 01:03:16,918 --> 01:03:19,421 [controller] Do, do it again, just anytime. 1220 01:03:32,642 --> 01:03:34,977 [Lynn Sherr] Sally's foot landed and they were all a 1221 01:03:34,978 --> 01:03:37,271 little wobbly 'cause they had been in microgravity 1222 01:03:37,272 --> 01:03:39,149 for seven days. 1223 01:03:41,651 --> 01:03:43,445 Steve is there to meet her. 1224 01:03:45,697 --> 01:03:47,239 [Sally Ride] But the moment we landed, 1225 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,324 I pretty much came face to face with just a flurry 1226 01:03:49,325 --> 01:03:51,077 of media activity. 1227 01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:53,246 Fasten your seatbelt. 1228 01:03:54,372 --> 01:03:56,916 - On the ground, someone hands Sally a bouquet. 1229 01:03:58,501 --> 01:04:01,046 She gives it back, and it blows up. 1230 01:04:04,632 --> 01:04:05,799 Sally was just saying, 1231 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,136 I'm not a girl wife, I'm a crew member. 1232 01:04:09,304 --> 01:04:11,221 - Welcome home, STS-7. 1233 01:04:11,222 --> 01:04:12,765 [Kathy Sullivan] You are on all the time. 1234 01:04:12,766 --> 01:04:14,641 Anyone who can catch you doing something 1235 01:04:14,642 --> 01:04:15,809 a little unseemly, 1236 01:04:15,810 --> 01:04:18,479 they see an opportunity and taking advantage of 1237 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,315 something you did for their headline. 1238 01:04:20,899 --> 01:04:23,193 - We were Sally and the four other guys. 1239 01:04:23,526 --> 01:04:25,069 The press wasn't paying attention to us. 1240 01:04:25,070 --> 01:04:26,779 We knew the story. 1241 01:04:26,780 --> 01:04:28,490 We knew the story was Sally Ride. 1242 01:04:29,449 --> 01:04:31,743 [Sally Ride] After my flight, everybody wanted a piece of me. 1243 01:04:32,327 --> 01:04:35,205 - She was the most famous person on Earth for a while. 1244 01:04:38,208 --> 01:04:40,292 [Sally Ride] NASA spent no time preparing me for what 1245 01:04:40,293 --> 01:04:42,754 I was going to encounter from the media when I got back. 1246 01:04:43,546 --> 01:04:44,963 Quite a surprise. 1247 01:04:44,964 --> 01:04:46,840 [reporter] Dr. Sally Ride and the men in the crew are at the 1248 01:04:46,841 --> 01:04:49,094 White House today for luncheon hosted by President Reagan. 1249 01:04:49,928 --> 01:04:52,639 [President Reagan] This is Dr. Sally Ride Day. 1250 01:04:53,014 --> 01:04:54,640 [announcer] Throwing out the first ball for tonight's 1251 01:04:54,641 --> 01:04:56,350 World Series game. 1252 01:04:56,351 --> 01:04:57,684 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] She would go give talks, 1253 01:04:57,685 --> 01:04:59,478 go to schools, go to corporations. 1254 01:04:59,479 --> 01:05:01,523 It was just a madhouse. 1255 01:05:12,367 --> 01:05:14,409 [Sally Ride] I'd meet women that would start crying when 1256 01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:15,577 they met me, 1257 01:05:15,578 --> 01:05:17,622 and it was really overwhelming to me. 1258 01:05:20,208 --> 01:05:21,750 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] It just took a lot out of her and 1259 01:05:21,751 --> 01:05:23,627 she was starting to feel anxious. 1260 01:05:23,628 --> 01:05:25,420 - Sally, like it or not, 1261 01:05:25,421 --> 01:05:27,131 you're a role model for a lot of young women 1262 01:05:27,132 --> 01:05:28,382 {\an8}across the country. 1263 01:05:28,383 --> 01:05:31,051 {\an8}How uncomfortable does, does that make you feel? 1264 01:05:31,052 --> 01:05:33,720 {\an8}- Oh, I think it's important, um, that, that the, 1265 01:05:33,721 --> 01:05:36,515 the girls growing up and the young women have a role model. 1266 01:05:36,516 --> 01:05:38,935 So, you know, I think it's appropriate. 1267 01:05:39,686 --> 01:05:42,604 - She decided to see a therapist and she'd never considered that 1268 01:05:42,605 --> 01:05:44,107 before her entire life. 1269 01:05:45,275 --> 01:05:46,525 [Bob Crippen] She was a star, 1270 01:05:46,526 --> 01:05:48,735 but she really tried to hide from it as much 1271 01:05:48,736 --> 01:05:50,238 as she could. 1272 01:05:50,738 --> 01:05:53,448 They said, "Crip, we need you and Sally to go out and 1273 01:05:53,449 --> 01:05:55,326 be on The Bob Hope Show. 1274 01:05:55,952 --> 01:05:58,120 I'm a military guy and when I get an assignment, 1275 01:05:58,121 --> 01:06:01,249 I go do it. I expected she would as well. 1276 01:06:01,791 --> 01:06:04,960 [Lynn Sherr] Bob Hope did a lot of gags about women. 1277 01:06:04,961 --> 01:06:06,879 - You know, this isn't such a bad part. 1278 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,505 [Lynn Sherr] Sally didn't wanna be part of it. 1279 01:06:08,506 --> 01:06:10,258 Then she disappeared. 1280 01:06:15,555 --> 01:06:19,183 - Being first isn't entirely about the joy of, 1281 01:06:19,184 --> 01:06:20,767 you know, the flight. 1282 01:06:20,768 --> 01:06:22,770 It's also about the obligations that come with it. 1283 01:06:23,563 --> 01:06:25,773 - Captain Robert Crippen right here. 1284 01:06:26,316 --> 01:06:27,816 [Steve Hawley] I didn't think it was right to accept 1285 01:06:27,817 --> 01:06:31,613 the good stuff but not be willing to do the tough stuff. 1286 01:06:32,655 --> 01:06:35,199 I didn't know where she was but that was how 1287 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:36,992 she dealt with it. 1288 01:06:36,993 --> 01:06:38,494 She just left. 1289 01:06:44,167 --> 01:06:46,377 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally came to Atlanta. 1290 01:06:46,711 --> 01:06:49,839 At the time, I was living there and I was studying biology. 1291 01:06:53,593 --> 01:06:56,428 We had dinner and Sally and I sat at a little table 1292 01:06:56,429 --> 01:06:58,056 and caught up. 1293 01:06:58,681 --> 01:07:00,265 Sally and I, even when we were kids, 1294 01:07:00,266 --> 01:07:02,268 we were always excited to see each other. 1295 01:07:02,644 --> 01:07:04,854 There was always kind of a good chemistry. 1296 01:07:06,898 --> 01:07:09,775 After that, anytime she was coming to Atlanta to do 1297 01:07:09,776 --> 01:07:13,112 something, she'd call me and we started getting together. 1298 01:07:14,030 --> 01:07:16,616 We'd run to the park, take tennis lessons, 1299 01:07:17,825 --> 01:07:19,702 go to pizza parlors, whatever. 1300 01:07:20,662 --> 01:07:23,205 That we had seen each other eight or nine times in 1301 01:07:23,206 --> 01:07:24,999 a couple of months. 1302 01:07:28,169 --> 01:07:31,714 So this one day in 1985 in the spring, 1303 01:07:32,882 --> 01:07:35,051 we came back to my apartment. 1304 01:07:36,177 --> 01:07:38,972 I had a Cocker Spaniel, Annie, 1305 01:07:40,181 --> 01:07:43,809 and I bent over to say hi to Annie, 1306 01:07:43,810 --> 01:07:46,896 and I noticed a hand on my lower back. 1307 01:07:48,189 --> 01:07:51,191 And it felt different, like your friends don't 1308 01:07:51,192 --> 01:07:52,776 usually do that. 1309 01:07:52,777 --> 01:07:56,238 And, you know, I turned to look at Sally. 1310 01:07:56,239 --> 01:07:57,906 She just had this dreamy, 1311 01:07:57,907 --> 01:08:00,994 "in love" look in, in her face, in her eyes. 1312 01:08:05,707 --> 01:08:06,915 In that moment, 1313 01:08:06,916 --> 01:08:09,167 I sort of realized that I kinda felt the same, 1314 01:08:09,168 --> 01:08:11,254 but it was kind of, I was surprised. 1315 01:08:12,505 --> 01:08:14,673 And I remember telling Sally, I just said, 1316 01:08:14,674 --> 01:08:16,968 "Oh, boy. We're in trouble." 1317 01:08:17,343 --> 01:08:18,927 And she said, 1318 01:08:18,928 --> 01:08:21,596 "We don't have to be, we don't have to do this." 1319 01:08:21,597 --> 01:08:25,310 And then we kissed, and it was all over. 1320 01:08:34,110 --> 01:08:37,697 [♪ uplifting music playing] 1321 01:08:44,078 --> 01:08:46,955 [♪ uplifting music playing] 1322 01:08:46,956 --> 01:08:48,707 And I asked her, 1323 01:08:48,708 --> 01:08:50,793 "You're married. What are we doing?" 1324 01:08:53,296 --> 01:08:54,504 Sally would, you know, 1325 01:08:54,505 --> 01:08:57,299 "I'm, I'm not in love with him, um, 1326 01:08:57,300 --> 01:08:59,052 I'm in love with you." 1327 01:09:01,012 --> 01:09:01,970 [Steve Hawley] She was, you know, 1328 01:09:01,971 --> 01:09:03,764 frequently doing her own thing, you know, 1329 01:09:03,765 --> 01:09:05,474 even before we were married. 1330 01:09:05,475 --> 01:09:08,436 I was working in Florida, so I was down there all week. 1331 01:09:09,562 --> 01:09:10,896 You know, I would call her up and say, 1332 01:09:10,897 --> 01:09:12,230 "We should be, you know, 1333 01:09:12,231 --> 01:09:13,982 getting in 7:00, Friday night." 1334 01:09:13,983 --> 01:09:15,776 Rather than say, "Good, because, you know, 1335 01:09:15,777 --> 01:09:17,194 I missed you," 1336 01:09:17,195 --> 01:09:18,195 she would say, 1337 01:09:18,196 --> 01:09:21,532 "Well, I'm gonna be out of town. I'm going to California." 1338 01:09:23,326 --> 01:09:24,534 - Maybe I have no business asking. 1339 01:09:24,535 --> 01:09:25,994 Do you think about children? 1340 01:09:25,995 --> 01:09:27,454 [Sally Ride] Think about it sometimes, 1341 01:09:27,455 --> 01:09:28,497 but I think you're right. 1342 01:09:28,498 --> 01:09:29,748 You have no business asking. 1343 01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:31,333 - All right. - We've, uh, we've elected 1344 01:09:31,334 --> 01:09:33,419 not to, not to answer personal questions. 1345 01:09:34,796 --> 01:09:36,672 [Steve Hawley] She was always doing her own thing. 1346 01:09:37,340 --> 01:09:41,844 So the fact that she was gone a lot wasn't unusual. 1347 01:09:43,679 --> 01:09:46,099 I didn't feel like we were life partners. 1348 01:09:46,724 --> 01:09:48,643 We were more like roommates. 1349 01:09:50,228 --> 01:09:54,398 - She would just tell Steve, uh, "You know, I'll be gone." 1350 01:09:54,399 --> 01:09:56,526 And, and they didn't really talk about it. 1351 01:09:57,068 --> 01:10:00,028 But they were still married, so she had to be careful. 1352 01:10:00,029 --> 01:10:02,448 It was more spur of the moment. 1353 01:10:04,242 --> 01:10:05,409 Whenever the phone rang, 1354 01:10:05,410 --> 01:10:06,827 my heart would start beating and, 1355 01:10:06,828 --> 01:10:09,163 you know, run to the old phone. 1356 01:10:10,415 --> 01:10:12,999 I wanted to know everything about her, 1357 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,254 her deepest secrets, you know, every recess. 1358 01:10:18,047 --> 01:10:22,342 Sally would drive from Houston in her red Fiero as 1359 01:10:22,343 --> 01:10:24,721 often as she could. 1360 01:10:25,930 --> 01:10:28,849 One time, she came on a T-38. 1361 01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:32,395 I watched this little mosquito jet come in and land. 1362 01:10:33,855 --> 01:10:35,648 [overlapping chatter] 1363 01:10:38,401 --> 01:10:40,694 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] We did have the long distance relationship. 1364 01:10:40,695 --> 01:10:41,987 And so we just had, you know, 1365 01:10:41,988 --> 01:10:45,699 weeks by ourselves just living our, our separate lives. 1366 01:10:45,700 --> 01:10:48,035 And then we get together and it was just so intense. 1367 01:10:59,422 --> 01:11:03,300 I took her to my lab at Georgia State University and 1368 01:11:03,301 --> 01:11:05,803 had her look through the microscope. 1369 01:11:06,137 --> 01:11:09,432 I was analyzing samples of different types of fungi. 1370 01:11:11,392 --> 01:11:13,143 They're actually fascinating. 1371 01:11:13,144 --> 01:11:16,314 Like penicillium, it looks like a tiny plant, 1372 01:11:16,898 --> 01:11:19,275 but it's microscopic. 1373 01:11:20,651 --> 01:11:23,069 I was down there alone with Sally in this little 1374 01:11:23,070 --> 01:11:25,615 cave of a lab. 1375 01:11:26,991 --> 01:11:29,577 I just felt like hugging and kissing Sally. 1376 01:11:30,495 --> 01:11:33,580 And so I start moving towards her and she, you know, 1377 01:11:33,581 --> 01:11:36,166 she's just worried that somebody might come in, 1378 01:11:36,167 --> 01:11:37,167 but I just couldn't help. 1379 01:11:37,168 --> 01:11:40,462 I just kept walking towards her and she's like backing up. 1380 01:11:40,463 --> 01:11:42,047 "Tam, don't. You know, come on. Come on." 1381 01:11:42,048 --> 01:11:45,176 You know, I'm like just going, going. 1382 01:11:58,231 --> 01:11:59,648 I love doing that to her. 1383 01:11:59,649 --> 01:12:01,608 I would do that in elevators. 1384 01:12:01,609 --> 01:12:03,401 If we were swimming in the ocean, 1385 01:12:03,402 --> 01:12:06,572 I'd dive under and grab her feet or something. 1386 01:12:07,490 --> 01:12:10,075 I just love, kind of, making her feel uncomfortable, 1387 01:12:10,076 --> 01:12:11,993 but in a fun way. 1388 01:12:11,994 --> 01:12:14,038 It was a pleasure. 1389 01:12:22,630 --> 01:12:24,840 My birthday is January 27th. 1390 01:12:24,841 --> 01:12:28,677 So Sally had flown to Atlanta for a long weekend 1391 01:12:28,678 --> 01:12:30,179 for us to be together. 1392 01:12:31,472 --> 01:12:35,810 And she was flying home on January 28th back to Houston. 1393 01:12:37,770 --> 01:12:39,980 [Sally Ride] I was on a commercial airliner. 1394 01:12:39,981 --> 01:12:42,607 The pilot made an announcement to the passengers 1395 01:12:42,608 --> 01:12:44,819 saying that there had been an accident. 1396 01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:49,447 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally went up to the pilots cabin and 1397 01:12:49,448 --> 01:12:52,285 asked if she could come in to listen to the news. 1398 01:12:53,661 --> 01:12:57,248 - Five, four, three, two, one. 1399 01:12:58,249 --> 01:12:59,791 [controller] And lift off. 1400 01:12:59,792 --> 01:13:03,044 Lift off of the 25th Space Shuttle mission and it has 1401 01:13:03,045 --> 01:13:04,714 cleared the tower. 1402 01:13:05,464 --> 01:13:08,675 - This is Challenger, roll program. 1403 01:13:08,676 --> 01:13:10,510 - Roger Roll, Challenger. 1404 01:13:10,511 --> 01:13:12,763 Challenger, go and throttle up. 1405 01:13:13,681 --> 01:13:15,516 Roger, going throttle up. 1406 01:13:29,363 --> 01:13:32,491 Flight, JC. We've had, uh, negative conduct, lost filming. 1407 01:13:37,997 --> 01:13:39,122 - Flight, FIDO. - Go ahead. 1408 01:13:39,123 --> 01:13:41,417 - RSL reports vehicle exploded. 1409 01:13:44,003 --> 01:13:45,629 This is Mission Control Houston. 1410 01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:48,174 We have no additional word at this time. 1411 01:13:53,554 --> 01:13:56,349 [Mike Mullane] As soon as I saw it, I knew the crew was lost. 1412 01:13:59,310 --> 01:14:04,230 Judy was sitting in the center seat between the pilot and 1413 01:14:04,231 --> 01:14:05,733 the co-pilot. 1414 01:14:07,318 --> 01:14:10,947 Sally also sat in the center seat on her flight. 1415 01:14:12,573 --> 01:14:14,741 [reporter] 36-year-old mission specialist, 1416 01:14:14,742 --> 01:14:16,576 Judy Resnik, was a shuttle veteran, 1417 01:14:16,577 --> 01:14:18,955 her assignment to operate the shuttle's mechanical arm. 1418 01:14:20,706 --> 01:14:23,667 {\an8}[Sally Ride] These were people I'd known for eight years. 1419 01:14:23,668 --> 01:14:25,544 {\an8}I'd worked with them every day. 1420 01:14:26,087 --> 01:14:28,088 {\an8}I'd, you know, gone to dinner at their houses, 1421 01:14:28,089 --> 01:14:30,091 so they were very, very close friends. 1422 01:14:31,425 --> 01:14:33,510 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally was heartbroken. 1423 01:14:33,511 --> 01:14:39,558 She was just, just white as a sheet in the face and just sad. 1424 01:14:40,851 --> 01:14:43,813 And Judy was a big part of that reason. 1425 01:14:46,774 --> 01:14:49,025 - And it was especially tragic to later find out 1426 01:14:49,026 --> 01:14:52,238 there had been a long history of near misses. 1427 01:14:54,407 --> 01:14:56,491 [reporter] The special panel named by President Reagan to 1428 01:14:56,492 --> 01:14:59,619 investigate last week's Space Shuttle disaster began its work 1429 01:14:59,620 --> 01:15:01,414 in Washington today. 1430 01:15:01,956 --> 01:15:04,582 - The 12-member panel includes Neil Armstrong, 1431 01:15:04,583 --> 01:15:07,252 the first man on the moon, and Sally Ride, 1432 01:15:07,253 --> 01:15:09,213 the first American woman in space. 1433 01:15:10,172 --> 01:15:11,881 {\an8}[Judge] Commission, come to order, please. 1434 01:15:11,882 --> 01:15:13,675 {\an8}[clerk] Are you ready? 1435 01:15:13,676 --> 01:15:15,969 {\an8}Do you swear the testimony that you shall give 1436 01:15:15,970 --> 01:15:17,387 {\an8}to be the truth, the whole truth, 1437 01:15:17,388 --> 01:15:18,888 {\an8}and nothing but the truth, so help me God. 1438 01:15:18,889 --> 01:15:20,557 {\an8}- I do. 1439 01:15:20,558 --> 01:15:21,975 {\an8}[Sally Ride] Have you had a chance to go back and 1440 01:15:21,976 --> 01:15:25,061 {\an8}look at the quality assurance records and verify that, uh, 1441 01:15:25,062 --> 01:15:27,939 {\an8}that those were signed off properly and appropriately? 1442 01:15:27,940 --> 01:15:29,232 {\an8}- That is in process. 1443 01:15:29,233 --> 01:15:31,443 {\an8}That is in process now. 1444 01:15:31,444 --> 01:15:33,612 {\an8}[Sally Ride] It was a very, very difficult time. 1445 01:15:34,155 --> 01:15:37,824 {\an8}I was just going from day to day and just grinding through 1446 01:15:37,825 --> 01:15:39,493 {\an8}all the stuff that we had to grind through. 1447 01:15:40,411 --> 01:15:42,746 {\an8}The engineers' main problem was they didn't have 1448 01:15:42,747 --> 01:15:44,914 {\an8}the proof that it was safe. 1449 01:15:44,915 --> 01:15:46,458 {\an8}- No. - Did you think you had the 1450 01:15:46,459 --> 01:15:48,043 {\an8}database to show that it was safe... 1451 01:15:48,044 --> 01:15:49,335 {\an8}- No. - In those temperatures? 1452 01:15:49,336 --> 01:15:53,089 {\an8}- Well, all, all I did was recite the, uh, 1453 01:15:53,090 --> 01:15:55,926 {\an8}data that we had, uh, available to us. 1454 01:15:56,719 --> 01:15:58,053 {\an8}- That's what Dr. Ride is pointing out. 1455 01:15:58,054 --> 01:15:59,345 {\an8}They say it's not conclusive. 1456 01:15:59,346 --> 01:16:01,014 {\an8}They don't say, "We think it's safe." 1457 01:16:01,015 --> 01:16:03,058 {\an8}They say the data is not conclusive. 1458 01:16:03,059 --> 01:16:05,478 {\an8}And you say the, the data is conclusive to you. 1459 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,398 {\an8}[Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally asked the tough questions and 1460 01:16:10,399 --> 01:16:13,277 {\an8}just held NASA leadership, you know, to the fire. 1461 01:16:14,570 --> 01:16:19,240 {\an8}And then an engineer at NASA passing in the hall handed 1462 01:16:19,241 --> 01:16:22,952 {\an8}Sally the data sheet that showed NASA knew the rubber 1463 01:16:22,953 --> 01:16:26,289 O-rings were only resilient above temperatures 1464 01:16:26,290 --> 01:16:29,584 of 50 degrees and Challenger launched 1465 01:16:29,585 --> 01:16:31,712 at 36 degrees. 1466 01:16:32,463 --> 01:16:35,882 And NASA tried to hide the fact that they knew. 1467 01:16:35,883 --> 01:16:38,093 [Sally Ride] Do you think that there should be a launch commit 1468 01:16:38,094 --> 01:16:40,221 {\an8}criteria on the seals or on the joint... 1469 01:16:40,679 --> 01:16:41,971 {\an8}- I don't have. 1470 01:16:41,972 --> 01:16:43,306 {\an8}- ...as far as temperature goes? 1471 01:16:43,307 --> 01:16:45,559 {\an8}- I would prefer to reserve judgment on that until we, uh, 1472 01:16:45,893 --> 01:16:48,104 {\an8}determine whether there should be or not. 1473 01:16:48,813 --> 01:16:49,896 {\an8}I have not. 1474 01:16:49,897 --> 01:16:51,315 {\an8}[Sally Ride] I guess that's my point. 1475 01:16:51,732 --> 01:16:52,690 {\an8}There, there wasn't one, 1476 01:16:52,691 --> 01:16:54,400 {\an8}but it doesn't appear as though you have data to 1477 01:16:54,401 --> 01:16:55,735 {\an8}know whether there should be one or not, 1478 01:16:55,736 --> 01:16:57,988 {\an8}and if there should be one, what it should be? 1479 01:16:59,031 --> 01:17:00,991 {\an8}- Uh, that is a correct statement. 1480 01:17:05,287 --> 01:17:08,289 {\an8}[Sally Ride] Astronauts have a real trust and faith 1481 01:17:08,290 --> 01:17:11,877 {\an8}in NASA to minimize the risks of flying in space. 1482 01:17:13,337 --> 01:17:16,549 {\an8}And it became very clear that that system really had failed. 1483 01:17:17,716 --> 01:17:20,343 {\an8}[reporter] Sally Ride spoke out for the first time on her 1484 01:17:20,344 --> 01:17:22,387 personal reaction to the accident that has 1485 01:17:22,388 --> 01:17:24,556 halted space flight. 1486 01:17:24,557 --> 01:17:25,974 - I was disturbed. 1487 01:17:25,975 --> 01:17:28,269 I am not ready to fly again now. 1488 01:17:29,311 --> 01:17:31,146 {\an8}Um, I think that there are very few astronauts 1489 01:17:31,147 --> 01:17:32,690 {\an8}who are ready to fly again now. 1490 01:17:34,233 --> 01:17:35,567 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] It broke Sally's heart because 1491 01:17:35,568 --> 01:17:37,820 NASA wasn't quite what she thought it was. 1492 01:17:39,321 --> 01:17:41,365 {\an8}[Lynn Sherr] That was the beginning of the end for her. 1493 01:17:44,285 --> 01:17:46,035 [reporter] Today, the first American woman in space has 1494 01:17:46,036 --> 01:17:47,830 resigned from the space agency. 1495 01:17:48,372 --> 01:17:52,041 She says NASA's shortcomings became "starkly" apparent after 1496 01:17:52,042 --> 01:17:54,003 last year's Challenger disaster. 1497 01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,880 [anchor] And this announcement comes just a few weeks after 1498 01:17:56,881 --> 01:17:58,131 Ride and her husband, 1499 01:17:58,132 --> 01:18:00,092 astronaut Steve Hawley, were divorced. 1500 01:18:02,636 --> 01:18:04,262 [Steve Hawley] When she told me she didn't wanna 1501 01:18:04,263 --> 01:18:05,513 be married anymore, 1502 01:18:05,514 --> 01:18:08,349 it was an odd combination of surprise and 1503 01:18:08,350 --> 01:18:09,517 a bit of relief. 1504 01:18:09,518 --> 01:18:13,730 I'm not sure how long I would have been able to continue, um, 1505 01:18:13,731 --> 01:18:17,234 in the kind of relationship we had. 1506 01:18:19,528 --> 01:18:21,863 Sally, she didn't wanna be with NASA anymore and 1507 01:18:21,864 --> 01:18:23,991 I did wanna be with NASA. 1508 01:18:24,617 --> 01:18:25,867 So I initially thought, "Okay. 1509 01:18:25,868 --> 01:18:28,704 Well, this is because we don't have a common future anymore." 1510 01:18:29,330 --> 01:18:31,916 But, of course, I learned later it was more than that. 1511 01:18:33,876 --> 01:18:36,211 At some point, Bear's husband called me. 1512 01:18:36,212 --> 01:18:41,633 He was dealing with the fact that Bear was gay and 1513 01:18:41,634 --> 01:18:44,595 he wanted to know if I knew that Sally was gay. 1514 01:18:46,931 --> 01:18:48,974 I suspected, but I didn't know. 1515 01:18:49,808 --> 01:18:52,518 And I think it was his phone call that said, 1516 01:18:52,519 --> 01:18:54,605 "Okay. Yeah, I guess it's true." 1517 01:18:54,730 --> 01:18:57,107 And I still didn't know at that point, you know, 1518 01:18:57,608 --> 01:19:00,027 how long it had been going on. 1519 01:19:02,821 --> 01:19:06,866 Sally knew what she wanted and she would try to get it 1520 01:19:06,867 --> 01:19:08,911 or do it. 1521 01:19:09,078 --> 01:19:11,829 The rules, you know, might be an inconvenience, 1522 01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:14,124 but we're not, we're not that deterrent. 1523 01:19:15,668 --> 01:19:17,336 And that was just the way she was. 1524 01:19:22,466 --> 01:19:24,467 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] After NASA, Sally and I wanted to be 1525 01:19:24,468 --> 01:19:28,221 together, but Sally wanted to look for a university position 1526 01:19:28,222 --> 01:19:32,059 and UCSD offered her a great package. 1527 01:19:33,352 --> 01:19:35,186 At that time, I was getting ready to start a 1528 01:19:35,187 --> 01:19:38,107 PhD program in Atlanta. 1529 01:19:38,607 --> 01:19:41,901 We just decided to live through a few more years, 1530 01:19:41,902 --> 01:19:45,406 hopefully only three, of long distance. 1531 01:19:47,032 --> 01:19:50,702 But a few weeks later, Sally called me and just said, 1532 01:19:50,703 --> 01:19:53,162 "I can't do long distance anymore. 1533 01:19:53,163 --> 01:19:55,708 I wanna live with you full-time." 1534 01:19:56,458 --> 01:19:57,875 I had to think about it. 1535 01:19:57,876 --> 01:20:01,129 I was very excited about my PhD program, 1536 01:20:01,130 --> 01:20:04,174 but I also was very excited about Sally. 1537 01:20:08,971 --> 01:20:12,266 So I moved into Sally's townhouse in La Jolla. 1538 01:20:18,355 --> 01:20:21,150 It was huge to actually start living together. 1539 01:20:28,782 --> 01:20:32,076 Just every day waking up together and going hiking in 1540 01:20:32,077 --> 01:20:35,664 the hills, we just had so much fun. 1541 01:20:38,375 --> 01:20:41,169 Somehow, our relationship felt smooth through 1542 01:20:41,170 --> 01:20:43,339 these big moments. 1543 01:20:46,091 --> 01:20:50,346 Sally and I both loved science, but girls were, 1544 01:20:50,846 --> 01:20:54,390 and still are today, less encouraged to become scientists 1545 01:20:54,391 --> 01:20:56,309 and engineers. 1546 01:20:56,310 --> 01:20:58,811 We just thought if more little girls grew up with an interest 1547 01:20:58,812 --> 01:21:02,191 in science like we did, the world would be a better place. 1548 01:21:03,984 --> 01:21:07,279 So we started the company, Sally Ride Science, in 2001. 1549 01:21:08,447 --> 01:21:12,117 We wanted to shift the culture about women and girls in STEM. 1550 01:21:13,243 --> 01:21:15,370 - We're trying to create programs, activities, 1551 01:21:15,371 --> 01:21:17,998 competitions to capture their enthusiasm. 1552 01:21:19,124 --> 01:21:20,708 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Sally wanted to do everything 1553 01:21:20,709 --> 01:21:22,753 in her power to make it successful. 1554 01:21:23,712 --> 01:21:26,798 She became much more open to talk to more people, 1555 01:21:26,799 --> 01:21:28,425 talk to kids. 1556 01:21:28,842 --> 01:21:32,261 Sally Ride Science was hugely successful and we 1557 01:21:32,262 --> 01:21:34,264 had big sponsorships. 1558 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,141 - I need to start by thanking ExxonMobil. 1559 01:21:37,142 --> 01:21:39,936 - But Sally was worried about how open to be 1560 01:21:39,937 --> 01:21:42,231 about our relationship. 1561 01:21:43,399 --> 01:21:47,068 If the sponsors knew that two women were running the company 1562 01:21:47,069 --> 01:21:50,823 and the two women were lesbos, you know, 1563 01:21:52,157 --> 01:21:54,868 she worried that might ruin our company. 1564 01:21:56,745 --> 01:21:59,498 People leak information and it just happens. 1565 01:22:00,457 --> 01:22:02,209 Stuff gets out there. 1566 01:22:02,793 --> 01:22:06,088 Sally was very cautious of the press for that reason. 1567 01:22:06,839 --> 01:22:08,589 - I started, uh, Sally Ride Science about eight 1568 01:22:08,590 --> 01:22:11,927 years ago with, uh, with Karen and Tam, as you heard. 1569 01:22:12,928 --> 01:22:14,470 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] When she was married to Steve, 1570 01:22:14,471 --> 01:22:19,017 she would be seen kissing him and holding his hand in public. 1571 01:22:20,853 --> 01:22:23,062 Those were things that she did not feel comfortable 1572 01:22:23,063 --> 01:22:24,898 with doing with me. 1573 01:22:26,650 --> 01:22:29,360 You have to hold yourself back when you're with somebody that 1574 01:22:29,361 --> 01:22:31,447 you love dearly. 1575 01:22:31,905 --> 01:22:33,781 And you wanna sit right next to 'em. 1576 01:22:33,782 --> 01:22:35,158 You wanna hold their hand. 1577 01:22:35,159 --> 01:22:36,742 You wanna touch their face. 1578 01:22:36,743 --> 01:22:38,996 You wanna kiss them. 1579 01:22:39,496 --> 01:22:43,041 It's the fear factor of being gay, being who you are, 1580 01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:46,879 affect your work, your opportunities, our company. 1581 01:22:47,713 --> 01:22:51,675 So, the world is not always kind. 1582 01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:02,727 Sally was afraid of what people would think, 1583 01:23:02,728 --> 01:23:05,481 especially her colleagues, her friends, 1584 01:23:06,899 --> 01:23:09,818 how that would change how they thought about her. 1585 01:23:10,736 --> 01:23:13,529 But I wanted them to know we were a couple. 1586 01:23:13,530 --> 01:23:16,074 I didn't wanna have that awkward feeling. 1587 01:23:17,409 --> 01:23:19,620 I wanted the relationship validated. 1588 01:23:21,622 --> 01:23:24,582 Being secret about our love for each other and 1589 01:23:24,583 --> 01:23:26,584 our life together, 1590 01:23:26,585 --> 01:23:29,087 it took more of a toll on me than Sally. 1591 01:23:31,882 --> 01:23:34,259 It just ate at me. 1592 01:23:37,638 --> 01:23:39,222 I love these pictures. 1593 01:23:39,223 --> 01:23:42,725 Uh, my good friend took these just really sweet 1594 01:23:42,726 --> 01:23:44,686 pictures of Sally and I. 1595 01:23:45,979 --> 01:23:48,356 - You know, a lot of couples when they first started dating, 1596 01:23:48,357 --> 01:23:50,525 they have like a lot of pictures that they take of each 1597 01:23:50,526 --> 01:23:52,109 other during that time. 1598 01:23:52,110 --> 01:23:54,070 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] Yeah. We never did that. 1599 01:23:54,071 --> 01:23:56,030 I mean, I wish I had more pictures of all these great 1600 01:23:56,031 --> 01:23:58,367 moments in our, our lives. 1601 01:24:04,414 --> 01:24:08,793 When I was in my early 20s, um, throughout my 20s, 1602 01:24:08,794 --> 01:24:11,880 I was more open than I was with Sally. 1603 01:24:13,173 --> 01:24:15,925 I was always open and honest with my closest friends, 1604 01:24:15,926 --> 01:24:17,718 my family. 1605 01:24:17,719 --> 01:24:20,721 And there was like this little hole in me where I 1606 01:24:20,722 --> 01:24:24,642 didn't like having to kind of cover that part of 1607 01:24:24,643 --> 01:24:26,687 who I was. 1608 01:24:28,188 --> 01:24:29,564 That just crushed me. 1609 01:24:29,565 --> 01:24:32,234 It broke my heart. I shut down. 1610 01:24:33,652 --> 01:24:36,905 I loved her to death, but for a few months, 1611 01:24:37,406 --> 01:24:39,825 I seriously thought about leaving Sally. 1612 01:24:41,618 --> 01:24:44,288 I took a trip to Atlanta to just kind of get away. 1613 01:24:45,330 --> 01:24:49,001 And I thought really hard about having another life. 1614 01:24:49,918 --> 01:24:52,879 What I'd do, how it would be to not be around Sally. 1615 01:24:54,673 --> 01:24:59,176 I'd call her every day and she just would not talk very much. 1616 01:24:59,177 --> 01:25:01,429 She was just, like, shut down. 1617 01:25:01,430 --> 01:25:03,181 It was horrible. 1618 01:25:04,391 --> 01:25:06,685 That was the lowest point. 1619 01:25:07,686 --> 01:25:10,313 Many people just don't understand what it means to 1620 01:25:10,314 --> 01:25:12,482 fall in love with a person like Sally. 1621 01:25:14,359 --> 01:25:16,360 Some of the very characteristics that made her 1622 01:25:16,361 --> 01:25:19,488 the woman who could break the highest glass ceiling 1623 01:25:19,489 --> 01:25:21,950 made her tough to be in a relationship with. 1624 01:25:27,331 --> 01:25:30,834 Sally couldn't share with the people closest to her, 1625 01:25:33,045 --> 01:25:34,755 even her sister, Bear. 1626 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,384 Here's Bear, Sally's sister, who's two years younger. 1627 01:25:41,011 --> 01:25:42,970 - Sally and Tam had been living together for 1628 01:25:42,971 --> 01:25:45,349 a long time, and one could assume. 1629 01:25:45,724 --> 01:25:49,644 We had family holiday meals, and Sally and Tam would come 1630 01:25:49,645 --> 01:25:51,313 over and have baked a pie. 1631 01:25:51,897 --> 01:25:54,816 But Sally just never talked about it. 1632 01:25:56,276 --> 01:25:57,735 I was a Presbyterian minister, 1633 01:25:57,736 --> 01:25:59,445 as was my wife, 1634 01:25:59,446 --> 01:26:01,907 and we came out when we got together. 1635 01:26:02,949 --> 01:26:05,284 But as a result of coming out, 1636 01:26:05,285 --> 01:26:08,288 Susan and I both lost our jobs in the church. 1637 01:26:09,247 --> 01:26:13,334 - Bear wanted to talk to Sally about Susan and 1638 01:26:13,335 --> 01:26:17,047 also wanted to talk to Sally about Sally and me. 1639 01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:19,632 And so Sally said, 1640 01:26:19,633 --> 01:26:21,760 "Tam, will you please talk to Bear?" 1641 01:26:22,886 --> 01:26:25,222 I was like, "Why don't you talk to your sister? 1642 01:26:26,139 --> 01:26:27,139 You're with a woman. 1643 01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:28,432 She's with a woman. 1644 01:26:28,433 --> 01:26:30,310 Talk to her. She's your sister." 1645 01:26:32,270 --> 01:26:34,815 I didn't understand that. I didn't get it. 1646 01:26:39,695 --> 01:26:42,613 When I came back from my trip, 1647 01:26:42,614 --> 01:26:44,991 Sally said that she needed to talk to me. 1648 01:26:45,617 --> 01:26:48,452 She said that she was worried about our relationship, 1649 01:26:48,453 --> 01:26:50,914 that things were changing, and it scared her. 1650 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:53,666 It hit her in her heart. 1651 01:26:53,667 --> 01:26:56,919 She didn't want us to end up spending most of our time in 1652 01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,798 separate rooms, doing separate things. 1653 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,093 We were having an intense conversation. 1654 01:27:04,094 --> 01:27:05,219 We weren't fighting, 1655 01:27:05,220 --> 01:27:07,638 it wasn't, but it was a little bit of a debate. 1656 01:27:07,639 --> 01:27:10,307 And she was standing with flat foot, 1657 01:27:10,308 --> 01:27:13,269 and suddenly she just rises up on her toes, 1658 01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:16,605 and it just cracked me up and I just started laughing. 1659 01:27:16,606 --> 01:27:18,775 I just couldn't, it's so cute and so different. 1660 01:27:19,943 --> 01:27:22,611 I just realized that I love Sally, 1661 01:27:22,612 --> 01:27:25,407 and maybe there's a way to work this out. 1662 01:27:26,491 --> 01:27:29,452 Sally told me that she always wanted me to be happy, 1663 01:27:29,453 --> 01:27:33,247 and we just ended up agreeing that we needed to find a better 1664 01:27:33,248 --> 01:27:36,585 balance between what I needed and what she needed. 1665 01:27:40,172 --> 01:27:42,339 We couldn't change the way the world saw us, 1666 01:27:42,340 --> 01:27:44,341 but we love each other so much, 1667 01:27:44,342 --> 01:27:47,554 and we wanted to be together through hell or high water. 1668 01:27:53,602 --> 01:27:56,605 We were happy together for many, many years. 1669 01:27:57,063 --> 01:28:01,025 And then in 2011, Sally and I were going to San Francisco 1670 01:28:01,026 --> 01:28:02,485 for a conference. 1671 01:28:02,486 --> 01:28:06,030 We were at a hotel, and Sally didn't want any dinner. 1672 01:28:06,031 --> 01:28:08,032 She, she said she didn't feel well, 1673 01:28:08,033 --> 01:28:10,702 and I noticed that her cheeks were slightly yellow. 1674 01:28:11,411 --> 01:28:13,705 That just scared the willies out of me. 1675 01:28:14,372 --> 01:28:16,081 So as soon as Sally and I got back, 1676 01:28:16,082 --> 01:28:18,752 we took a car straight to the doctor's office. 1677 01:28:20,670 --> 01:28:23,340 And I'm just thinking, "She's sick, but not serious." 1678 01:28:24,591 --> 01:28:27,051 But then I see her walking out of the doctor's office, 1679 01:28:27,052 --> 01:28:29,011 and her face, 1680 01:28:29,012 --> 01:28:31,180 I just knew something was really bad wrong. 1681 01:28:31,181 --> 01:28:33,350 And, oh, boy. 1682 01:28:37,270 --> 01:28:39,731 And you know, I said, "What, what did he say?" 1683 01:28:40,857 --> 01:28:43,276 And she said, "He thinks I have cancer. 1684 01:28:44,277 --> 01:28:45,194 Pancreatic cancer. 1685 01:28:45,195 --> 01:28:47,280 There's a tumor in my pancreas." 1686 01:28:51,993 --> 01:28:55,247 In, in one second, our life is totally changed. 1687 01:28:59,209 --> 01:29:00,459 We were like zombies. 1688 01:29:00,460 --> 01:29:02,838 It was just such a shock. 1689 01:29:12,472 --> 01:29:16,101 She had extensive surgery, chemo, and radiation. 1690 01:29:17,686 --> 01:29:20,230 [Bear Ride] But she always remained optimistic. 1691 01:29:21,648 --> 01:29:23,275 She was always Sally. 1692 01:29:31,741 --> 01:29:34,285 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] As the cancer progressed, 1693 01:29:34,286 --> 01:29:36,413 she got sicker and sicker. 1694 01:29:38,665 --> 01:29:41,208 Every week, she'd lose something, 1695 01:29:41,209 --> 01:29:43,962 the ability to go up and down the stairs. 1696 01:29:54,681 --> 01:29:58,059 - Tam was amazing during that time with Sally, 1697 01:29:59,352 --> 01:30:01,646 as committed as could be. 1698 01:30:12,115 --> 01:30:15,868 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] I loved Neil Young and that song, 1699 01:30:15,869 --> 01:30:17,745 "Harvest Moon." 1700 01:30:17,746 --> 01:30:19,830 I would put that on sometime and make, 1701 01:30:19,831 --> 01:30:23,042 make Sally dance slow with me in the living room. 1702 01:30:23,043 --> 01:30:25,628 And it was just, you know, and she, she was, 1703 01:30:25,629 --> 01:30:27,714 had lost weight and she was weak. 1704 01:30:28,214 --> 01:30:30,800 ♪ Come a little bit closer. ♪ 1705 01:30:32,469 --> 01:30:35,597 ♪ Hear what I have to say. ♪ 1706 01:30:37,974 --> 01:30:39,559 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] She looked very cute. 1707 01:30:39,893 --> 01:30:41,853 Her blue eyes are still fierce. 1708 01:30:45,023 --> 01:30:47,776 ♪ Just like children sleeping. ♪ 1709 01:30:49,486 --> 01:30:52,322 ♪ We could dream this night away. ♪ 1710 01:30:54,783 --> 01:30:57,619 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] It was just wonderful to be with her. 1711 01:31:01,539 --> 01:31:05,293 ♪ Because I'm still in love with you. ♪ 1712 01:31:06,336 --> 01:31:09,589 ♪ I wanna see you dance again. ♪ 1713 01:31:10,298 --> 01:31:13,510 ♪ Because I'm still in love with you ♪ 1714 01:31:15,011 --> 01:31:18,848 ♪ On this harvest moon. ♪ 1715 01:31:19,265 --> 01:31:20,766 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] We both just wanted to be as close 1716 01:31:20,767 --> 01:31:22,393 as we could. 1717 01:31:22,394 --> 01:31:26,147 We would be locking arms going into the hospital. 1718 01:31:27,315 --> 01:31:29,483 The nurse would ask me, "Who are you?" 1719 01:31:29,484 --> 01:31:32,070 And Sally started saying, "She's my partner." 1720 01:31:33,446 --> 01:31:36,074 And it was just like, just came out of her mouth. 1721 01:31:38,827 --> 01:31:40,536 Hospitals used to tell you that if you're not 1722 01:31:40,537 --> 01:31:43,372 a family member, you can't see the patient. 1723 01:31:43,373 --> 01:31:45,583 And Sally was very worried about that. 1724 01:31:46,710 --> 01:31:49,795 We wished that we'd taken the opportunity to get married, 1725 01:31:49,796 --> 01:31:55,176 but we decided then to file to be certified domestic partners. 1726 01:31:59,014 --> 01:32:02,016 It felt almost as close as being married. 1727 01:32:02,017 --> 01:32:06,186 It just, it was really fun to see both our signatures on that 1728 01:32:06,187 --> 01:32:08,648 little stupid piece of paper. 1729 01:32:10,567 --> 01:32:12,610 Oh, man, that brought back. 1730 01:32:19,701 --> 01:32:22,620 Sally died in July 2012, 1731 01:32:23,371 --> 01:32:25,832 17 months after the diagnosis. 1732 01:32:31,588 --> 01:32:33,590 It was a wild day. 1733 01:32:33,965 --> 01:32:36,300 I couldn't handle the coroner, so I asked Bear, you know, 1734 01:32:36,301 --> 01:32:40,096 we just, I don't, I don't wanna watch her being wheeled away. 1735 01:32:40,847 --> 01:32:44,933 I went outside and just sat on our patio and suddenly, 1736 01:32:44,934 --> 01:32:49,105 I hear a helicopter circling right over our house. 1737 01:32:50,690 --> 01:32:52,399 Cars were pulling up. 1738 01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,610 Then there was a cameraman hanging out with 1739 01:32:54,611 --> 01:32:56,154 a big old camera. 1740 01:32:57,405 --> 01:32:59,323 [anchor] We bid a sad farewell. 1741 01:32:59,324 --> 01:33:01,408 - A true American pioneer died today. 1742 01:33:01,409 --> 01:33:03,744 - Trailblazing astronaut, Sally Ride, 1743 01:33:03,745 --> 01:33:05,663 has lost her battle with pancreatic cancer. 1744 01:33:06,122 --> 01:33:07,998 She was 61 years old. 1745 01:33:07,999 --> 01:33:09,625 {\an8}- Ride was a very private person. 1746 01:33:09,626 --> 01:33:12,419 {\an8}It wasn't until reading her obituary today that it became 1747 01:33:12,420 --> 01:33:16,256 public news that Ride had had a 27-year-long relationship 1748 01:33:16,257 --> 01:33:17,383 with a female partner. 1749 01:33:22,430 --> 01:33:24,056 [Lynn Sherr] I found out about Tam the same way the 1750 01:33:24,057 --> 01:33:26,558 rest of the world did, in the obituary. 1751 01:33:26,559 --> 01:33:28,310 Oh, I was furious at her. 1752 01:33:28,311 --> 01:33:30,688 I was furious. How dare she not tell me? 1753 01:33:31,773 --> 01:33:34,650 And then I felt really bad. 1754 01:33:34,651 --> 01:33:39,029 I felt bad that society could make someone that we admire and 1755 01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:42,241 love and respect feel that she had to hide 1756 01:33:42,242 --> 01:33:44,119 something about herself. 1757 01:33:46,204 --> 01:33:48,872 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] About a month before she passed away, 1758 01:33:48,873 --> 01:33:52,793 it was just clear that the end was near. 1759 01:33:52,794 --> 01:33:55,170 We never talked about death, funeral, 1760 01:33:55,171 --> 01:33:57,214 we never used those words. 1761 01:33:57,215 --> 01:33:59,383 But then I thought, "Wait a second. 1762 01:33:59,384 --> 01:34:02,344 Who am I gonna be to the world? 1763 01:34:02,345 --> 01:34:04,179 Who am I going to be to the people that don't know 1764 01:34:04,180 --> 01:34:06,808 that we've been together and we love each other?" 1765 01:34:08,143 --> 01:34:11,311 She just kind of thought about it, and she said, 1766 01:34:11,312 --> 01:34:14,899 "You decide. Whatever you decide will be fine." 1767 01:34:17,485 --> 01:34:20,946 So when I wrote the obituary, I just thought, "You know what? 1768 01:34:20,947 --> 01:34:24,867 Sally was an honest person, except for this little thin 1769 01:34:24,868 --> 01:34:26,911 area and it's just not right." 1770 01:34:27,787 --> 01:34:30,664 And I'm an honest person, so I, I'm just sick of hiding. 1771 01:34:30,665 --> 01:34:31,915 I'm just gonna be myself. 1772 01:34:31,916 --> 01:34:34,335 If somebody doesn't like it, tough. 1773 01:34:38,548 --> 01:34:41,718 - It was really a liberation for all of us. 1774 01:34:42,177 --> 01:34:46,597 Tam should be recognized for who she was in relation 1775 01:34:46,598 --> 01:34:49,851 to Sally as well as in relation to our family. 1776 01:34:56,649 --> 01:34:59,776 - I am going to read an unbelievable letter that 1777 01:34:59,777 --> 01:35:02,280 I received from Mike Mullane. 1778 01:35:03,907 --> 01:35:07,034 "I know this is belated, but I wanted to extend my 1779 01:35:07,035 --> 01:35:09,078 heartfelt sympathy for your loss. 1780 01:35:10,914 --> 01:35:13,665 I came to the astronaut office having been immersed 1781 01:35:13,666 --> 01:35:16,961 in all male environments my entire life. 1782 01:35:17,462 --> 01:35:20,464 My early behavior and word and deed alienated 1783 01:35:20,465 --> 01:35:22,550 Sally from me." 1784 01:35:23,218 --> 01:35:26,094 [Mike Mullane] When we got to NASA, day one at NASA, 1785 01:35:26,095 --> 01:35:27,387 if you would have looked in the dictionary 1786 01:35:27,388 --> 01:35:29,097 under male sexist pig, you would have saw 1787 01:35:29,098 --> 01:35:30,975 Mike Mullane's picture in there. 1788 01:35:31,517 --> 01:35:33,853 I'm, I'm ashamed, really, of what, my attitude. 1789 01:35:34,437 --> 01:35:35,979 - "Sally was a remarkable woman 1790 01:35:35,980 --> 01:35:38,983 and faced enormous obstacles with courage and dignity. 1791 01:35:40,026 --> 01:35:41,652 I have four granddaughters. 1792 01:35:41,653 --> 01:35:44,780 I want them to have an appreciation for the sacrifices 1793 01:35:44,781 --> 01:35:48,992 women like Sally and each of you made to secure a future in 1794 01:35:48,993 --> 01:35:51,913 which they won't be constrained in pursuing their own dreams." 1795 01:35:53,373 --> 01:35:56,125 That's, this is an amazing letter. 1796 01:35:57,335 --> 01:36:00,462 [Mike Mullane] Here I was doubting the women's ability 1797 01:36:00,463 --> 01:36:02,799 to handle these dangerous situations. 1798 01:36:04,008 --> 01:36:05,926 Working with them opened my eyes. 1799 01:36:05,927 --> 01:36:07,678 They can do the job as well as anybody else, 1800 01:36:07,679 --> 01:36:09,596 and these six women proved it. 1801 01:36:09,597 --> 01:36:11,266 And Sally was part of it. 1802 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,476 - I think that it's time that people realize that 1803 01:36:14,477 --> 01:36:18,356 women in this country can do any job that they wanna do. 1804 01:36:21,776 --> 01:36:23,902 [Billie Jean King] Space for the United States changed 1805 01:36:23,903 --> 01:36:25,904 for all time when Sally went up. 1806 01:36:25,905 --> 01:36:28,241 Women can do this. She proved it. Done. 1807 01:36:29,492 --> 01:36:31,702 [Kathy Sullivan] She was breaking trail for all of the 1808 01:36:31,703 --> 01:36:34,079 women who've flown in space after her and she 1809 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:35,456 did it superbly. 1810 01:36:35,957 --> 01:36:38,000 ♪ There is no fear. ♪ 1811 01:36:38,001 --> 01:36:41,671 ♪ We're out here and my eyes are clear and bright. ♪ 1812 01:36:44,465 --> 01:36:46,675 ♪ There is no time, ♪ 1813 01:36:46,676 --> 01:36:49,846 ♪ No straight line, not one in sight. ♪ 1814 01:36:52,348 --> 01:36:55,475 [Kathy Sullivan] You can see Sally's legacy in the many 1815 01:36:55,476 --> 01:36:59,939 women who are now a part of all facets of NASA's work. 1816 01:37:00,565 --> 01:37:04,401 All the younger women and women in science that she touched, 1817 01:37:04,402 --> 01:37:05,777 she inspired. 1818 01:37:05,778 --> 01:37:08,655 It heightens the likelihood that they'll try harder, 1819 01:37:08,656 --> 01:37:10,700 go further, contribute more. 1820 01:37:12,076 --> 01:37:13,785 [Sally Ride] I'd like to be remembered as someone who was 1821 01:37:13,786 --> 01:37:17,706 not afraid to do what she wanted to do and as someone who 1822 01:37:17,707 --> 01:37:21,044 took risks along the way in order to achieve her goals. 1823 01:37:22,795 --> 01:37:25,505 ♪ But I'll return again ♪ 1824 01:37:25,506 --> 01:37:28,717 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] I have thought long and hard about why 1825 01:37:28,718 --> 01:37:31,679 Sally couldn't be open about our relationship, 1826 01:37:33,598 --> 01:37:36,892 and the only thing that makes sense to me is that 1827 01:37:36,893 --> 01:37:38,436 she was afraid. 1828 01:37:39,604 --> 01:37:42,231 That's heartbreaking for me, but also for her. 1829 01:37:43,733 --> 01:37:46,068 [Bear Ride] All the people that think Sally should have come 1830 01:37:46,069 --> 01:37:49,738 out before she died or Sally should have just graciously 1831 01:37:49,739 --> 01:37:52,325 accepted the bouquet of flowers at her landing, 1832 01:37:53,034 --> 01:37:55,202 just let Sally be Sally. 1833 01:37:55,203 --> 01:37:57,830 That's what made Sally who she was. 1834 01:37:58,831 --> 01:38:02,752 ♪ If I showed it, I'd lose it, didn't think I had a choice ♪ 1835 01:38:03,211 --> 01:38:05,504 - She left us with a question, 1836 01:38:05,505 --> 01:38:09,049 she left us with some curiosity, 1837 01:38:09,050 --> 01:38:11,052 but she left us on her terms, 1838 01:38:11,928 --> 01:38:13,679 and that's the way Sally always liked it. 1839 01:38:16,307 --> 01:38:18,226 [President Obama] Good morning. Good morning, everybody. 1840 01:38:20,937 --> 01:38:23,105 [Tam O’Shaughnessy] I got a phone call from the White House. 1841 01:38:23,106 --> 01:38:25,107 They said that Sally was gonna, uh, 1842 01:38:25,108 --> 01:38:27,068 receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom. 1843 01:38:27,860 --> 01:38:30,612 [President Obama] As the first American woman in space, 1844 01:38:30,613 --> 01:38:33,616 Sally didn't just break the stratospheric glass ceiling, 1845 01:38:34,325 --> 01:38:35,743 she blasted through it. 1846 01:38:36,244 --> 01:38:37,661 [reporter] Tam O'Shaughnessy 1847 01:38:37,662 --> 01:38:40,122 accepting on behalf of her life partner, 1848 01:38:40,123 --> 01:38:42,166 Dr. Sally K. Ride. 1849 01:38:43,376 --> 01:38:46,003 [applause] 1850 01:38:49,507 --> 01:38:52,217 - Talk about a public coming out, 1851 01:38:52,218 --> 01:38:56,389 I mean, that was, uh, big. 1852 01:38:58,182 --> 01:39:00,559 [applause] 1853 01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,603 It just felt unbelievable. 1854 01:39:03,229 --> 01:39:07,150 Finally, Sally was celebrated for who she really was, 1855 01:39:08,234 --> 01:39:11,070 and I got celebrated as well for being her partner. 1856 01:39:13,281 --> 01:39:16,324 The world made it tricky and painful, 1857 01:39:16,325 --> 01:39:19,787 but we were brave enough to love each other. 1858 01:39:32,091 --> 01:39:37,054 [♪ orchestral music playing] 1859 01:39:51,110 --> 01:39:56,657 [♪ orchestral music playing] 1860 01:40:16,135 --> 01:40:21,891 {\an8}[♪ orchestral music playing] 150309

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