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Hidden power.

Secrets. Cover -ups.

Corruption.

You think you know the whole story?

Think again.

I've been governor.

A Navy SEAL.

A fighter.

I've heard things that'll blow your
mind. And now I think it's time you get

whole story.

Now, the 9 -11 conspiracy that was lost
in the smoke from the trade towers.

The attack on the Pentagon.

Was the U .S. military headquarters
really hit by a hijacked jetliner?

Or was the damage caused by something
else?

An airplane causing that kind of damage
is just nonsensical.

We should not accept such an
explanation.

Jesse Ventura uncovers the clues from
the debris outside the Pentagon.

I didn't see any tail. I didn't see any
seats. And I saw nothing that resembled

an aircraft.

To the survivors inside the Pentagon.

Did you at all see an airplane?

I didn't. To me, it sounded like a bomb.

White hot issues. The mainstream news
media won't dare touch.

We have many pilots speaking out, and
our media just ignores them.

Censored surveillance footage.

The tapes were confiscated immediately
by the FBI.

Phantom phone calls from the jet.

Right now, sir. My plane has been
hijacked. What should I do?

And shocking allegations. The attack was
staged to hide a massive Defense

Department money scam.

We cannot track $2 .3 trillion in
transactions.

And amazingly, that exact place that
quote plane hit was where all the

were stored for what Rumsfeld talked
about.

Jesse Ventura storms the Pentagon.

He confronts the 9 -11 Commission.

I think the Commission was duped.

Missiles. Bombs.

Cover -ups.

The 9 -11 Pentagon Conspiracy.

I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is
Conspiracy Theory.

Jesse Ventura is inside the Pentagon,
one of the most secure buildings in the

world. And on September 11, 2001, the
target of a terrorist attack.

Or was it?

The governor is here to dispute the 9
-11 Commission's official version of

events and investigate allegations of an
inside job.

And when he doesn't get what he's
looking for, he goes straight to the 9

Commission's counsel.

Okay, so, Governor, you've asked me a
lot of questions that indicate that You

not really believe that 9 -11 happened
the way it did.

So what exactly is your bottom line and
where are you going with this? My bottom

line is the truth.

After all these years, there are still a
lot of questions about the 9 -11

attacks that haven't even been asked.

Especially when it comes to the
Pentagon.

That's why I followed up on a call from
a guy named Charles Lewis.

On September the 11th, he was an
inspector for the Los Angeles Building

Safety Department, fresh off a bunch of
construction jobs at the L .A.

International Airport.

And what he witnessed at the airport
that morning was more than enough reason

get on the case.

Charlie, let's get right to it.

Give me your story. What happened to you
on September the 11th of 2001?

On that morning, there was quite a bit
of activity going on there, and I was

able to hear a great deal of what was
being said. I discovered that they were

aware that LAX was one of the targets.

They seemed to be very upset that of all
the air traffic controllers watching

those planes, no one had bothered to
notify NORAD.

NORAD. The North American Aerospace
Defense Command.

It's the nation's air defense system.

And the word came back that NORAD had
indeed been notified, but they were

ordered to stand down.

NORAD had been ordered to stand down.
Yes.

Stand down.

That means our air defense system was
ordered not to send up fighter jets.

to intercept the hijacked planes that
were on the loose.

Who gave the order for NORAD to stand
down?

The word came back that the order had
come from the highest level of the White

House.

It couldn't have been George W. Bush who
gave the order. We all know he was in

Florida reading the pet goat to a bunch
of school kids.

It could only be one man, the Vice
President, Dick Cheney.

I guess they figured they had to follow
orders.

But Charles Lewis' story doesn't end
there.

After he got the stand -down
information, he heard something else on

-level police radio frequency.

The Pentagon had been hit, but not by
American Airlines Flight 77.

They said that a missile had hit the
Pentagon.

Clearly they said a missile had hit the
Pentagon.

Not an airplane, but a missile. A
missile.

I was very surprised by the time that I
got home and got the television on that

it had somehow mysteriously changed from
a missile to an airplane.

A missile?

A stand down?

There were a lot of rumors and hysteria
that day. But this guy was in on

official transmission.

And he said there was even more
evidence.

It was high time we looked into this and
find out what the government might be

hiding.

The 9 -11 Commission says Flight 77 took
off from Dulles Airport outside of

Washington shortly after the other two
planes had already left, the two that

the tower.

Then it says it turned around and struck
the Pentagon at 9 .37 a .m. Right. Now,

that makes sense from the hijacker's
point of view, that they left right

those other two planes left, because
then the crew from Flight 77 wouldn't

word of the New York attacks in time to
stop this new wave of attacks.

But that isn't what our informant's
telling us. This informant told me that

heard radio traffic that talked about a
missile.

Wow.

That's insane.

Well, there's a lot of stuff that
doesn't add up. As crazy and wild as

sounds, I still think we ought to check
it out.

There was a lot of evidence and a lot of
clues that might help solve the

mystery. Me and my investigators were
going to fan out and hit them all.

Coming up, a jet, a missile, or a bomb.

Exclusive FBI video blasts holes in the
official story.

The nose of an airplane causing that
kind of damage is just nonsensical.

It doesn't make any sense.

Our plane has been hijacked. Then, a
shocking explanation for the phone calls

that allegedly came from the doomed
plane.

I'll show you.

a voice more. Just to be able to take a
voice and just change it into another

voice.

And later, Jesse Ventura storms a
Pentagon official's office

and demands answers for you.

I still question why we can't see all
the security cameras.

Conspiracy theories have only grown in
the years since the 9 -11 attacks.

Most of the focus has been on the
destruction of the World Trade Tower.

The lesser known story is what really
happened at the Pentagon.

Jesse Ventura and his team are out to
find evidence of the truths that have

withheld.

I got boots on the ground in Washington.

June was across the Potomac meeting a 9
-11 conspiracy expert.

Matt Sullivan laid out the first
evidence of a conspiracy.

Did someone stop fighter jets from
intercepting the hijacked airliner?

So do you think there could have been a
stand down? Well, you know, we get that

from the Mineta testimony.

Norman Mineta was the transportation
secretary at the time of 9 -11. And he

testified in front of the 9 -11.

May 23rd, 2003.

Mineta said he was in the White House
underground bunker with Vice President

Dick Cheney while Flight 77 was speeding
toward the Pentagon.

There was a young man who would come in
and say to the Vice President, the plane

is 50 miles out, the plane is 30 miles
out.

And when it got down to the plane is 10
miles out, the young man also said to

the Vice President, Do the orders still
stand?

And the vice president turned and
whipped his neck around and said, of

the orders still stand.

If Annetta's testimony is correct, that
the plane was the one going into the

Pentagon, then clearly it must have been
an order not to shoot the plane down

because the plane wasn't shot down.

So did Manessa's testimony ever make it
to the 9 -11 commission report?

No, his testimony never appears in the
printed report.

But even more interesting, it's been
excised from the video record of the 9

Commission. Whoa.

The 9 -11 Commission slapped a gag on
the Transportation Secretary for not

towing the party line?

And why didn't the military stop the
hijacked jet?

Matt Sullivan says the evidence at the
scene begins to answer that question.

Maybe a jet never hit the Pentagon at
all.

We know something happened at the
Pentagon, but we don't know that a plane

crashed into it.

There's no big sections, there's no tail
sections, there's no fuselage.

It wasn't a jet.

My investigator Daniel was getting the
same story from Dwayne Dietz.

Dietz used to be an engineer with NASA.

He demonstrated how the damage at the
Pentagon just doesn't add up to a 757.

You would expect a twin -engine
transport airplane like the 757, you

notice the two engine holes.

That would be very prominent from all
aircraft accidents that we know of.

Whereas we didn't see two obvious engine
holes in the front.

But if I can go...

To the other end, you can see the damage
path, and it comes to a point there.

Yeah. The point on what's called the C
-ring of the Pentagon.

At that point, where you would expect
the nose of the airplane to be totally

disintegrated, it looks like a very
extremely strong and impenetrable item

struck it and just blew up the hole.

It doesn't make any sense.

It would have been broken up by that
point, or it would have vaporized by

That's right.

Transport airplanes have got material
that is not strong at all in the nose

area. The nose of an airplane going
through all that material and then

that kind of damage is just nonsensical.

So if there's a question about what did
or didn't hit the Pentagon, why not go

to the videotape?

Every inch outside the Pentagon is
covered by security cameras.

An FBI report indicated at least 85
cameras were up and working that

Yeah, there were a lot of cameras around
the Pentagon. If you look at the

Pentagon, you can see that there's
cameras on each corner.

There's cameras at some of the
businesses around the Pentagon.

And we know in those cases, the tapes
were confiscated immediately by the FBI

within hours of the event.

It took five years of lawsuits.

to force the Defense Department to
release just three minutes of footage.

And it all came down to five frames.

Notice anything strange?

No video or photos have ever shown an
airliner approaching or hitting the

building.

This is what I think happened, a line in
towards the Pentagon. I think it

actually pulled up a little bit.

There was a big explosion that we all
saw.

And then what happened to the plane?

Well, it continued on somewhere behind
this big cloud of black smoke.

Dietz is saying the jetliner flew just
above this camera's view.

It never hit the Pentagon.

Something else caused the explosion.

And there's another problem with the
official story.

The terrorists didn't have the expertise
to fly a high -speed jet into such a

low structure.

So said former Air Force pilot Rob
Balsamo.

I met him at a small airport in Virginia
where the alleged hijacked pilot, Hani

Hanjour, took flying lessons.

For Hani Hanjour to have this aircraft
going 150 knots over its max operating

limit is just...

This is just incredible speeds for the
aircraft.

The vertical speeds are too great to be
level across the lawn.

The alleged pilot and the jet couldn't
do it?

We were going to have to put this one to
the test.

Coming up, inside the flight simulator,
proof that no one could have steered

Flight 77 into the Pentagon.

Oh, God.

440 knots.

Then, was this an inside job by our own
Defense

Department? Jesse Ventura follows the
money.

The day before 9 -11, Donald Rumsfeld
talks about they can't account for $2

.3 trillion of Pentagon expenses.

And later.

Shocking evidence that phone calls from
the doomed jet were faked.

He may have been duped by someone
pretending to be his wife.

American Airlines Flight 77 left
Washington Dulles Airport for Los

.20 a .m. on September 11, 2001.

The Boeing 757 held 58 passengers, four
flight attendants, and two pilots.

It veered off course at 8 .40 a .m.

Its transponder, which identifies the
jet on radar, shut off at 8 .56.

The National Transportation Safety Board
says the jet hit the Pentagon at 9 .37

.45 a .m.

But was it even possible for an
inexperienced pilot to pull off the

Jesse Ventura learns more about the
aircraft and the alleged hijacker from

Rob Balsamo.

Now we're at the airport where Hani
Hanjour supposedly tried to rent an

similar to this one. This one here.

Exactly. They refused to rent them 172
because he couldn't control it. That's

unheard of.

Now let me ask you this.

You as a professional pilot.

How much more difficult is it to fly a
Cessna 172 or a 757

or 767 Boeing jet?

Oh, well, first of all, it's night and
day when you look at the cockpit

to each other.

Honey Hondor could not control a 757.

Investigator Daniel Kukin is at another
airport to meet Captain Rusty Amer.

They'll use a flight simulator to
replicate the jet's path to destruction.

Or will they?

So I've flown a tiny bit in the very
small planes. Okay, good. So your

experience is somewhat similar to the
alleged hijackers.

From what we know, they even had
problems in a small airplane at the

maybe 120 knots.

You're going to speed this up to 500
knots.

Physics don't allow it.

At those speeds, the wings have departed
a long time ago. The surfaces will just

ripple. 500 knots is way too much. The
airplane is not designed for that.

The problem with controlling the
aircraft on 9 -11 is the fact that the

was doing 110 knots over its max
operating limit.

That's why we have so many pilots
speaking out, and they're raising their

flags.

Meanwhile, Daniel was at the controls in
that 757 flight simulate.

He had as good a chance as anybody of
hitting the target.

Okay, you're 311 knots.

You want to go all the way around? Yeah,
because I've got to get back towards

the city here.

You can feel it right now.

Yeah. All right.

Go for it. Go towards it. I'm going to
increase your speed to your 360 knots.

There we go. Your 424 knots.

And, again, your radius of turn is
becoming so great.

Yeah. Keep it turning. Keep it turning.

Keep it turning.

Keep it turning.

Now go down.

Dive for it. Yeah.

There's 500 knots.

Keep it going.

It's very touchy.

I can understand. Now you're going on
your back.

You're going on your back. Keep it
rolling. Keep it rolling.

You hit something, but obviously it was
not that building.

So it's your professional opinion that
Hanji could not fly that

757 the way the government told us he
did? Well, it's not even just

opinion. It's based on facts and data.

Let's pass that.

Oh, come on. Hang on. I'm going to get
him. I'm going to get him.

440 knots.

I missed again.

There's no denying, it's incredibly
difficult.

Especially with that turn that the NTSB
data set, Flight 77 made.

And then he levels off and then pretty
much just guns it straight in. That

straight path right in is really
incredibly difficult.

Correct. Correct.

So what do you think?

I couldn't do it.

You couldn't do it. Not at that speed.
Not at 500 knots.

So, if it wasn't the plane that hit the
Pentagon, what the hell was it?

I think it's about time we start looking
at other possibilities.

Coming up, Jesse uncovers what really
caused the damage to the Pentagon.

Shocking accounts from ones who were
there.

To me, it sounded like a bomb.

I saw nothing that resembled an
aircraft.

Then, what about those phone calls from
the doomed flight? The bizarre, shocking

conspiracy theory.

He may have been duped by someone
pretending to be his wife.

My plane has been hijacked. What should
I do?

And later, Jesse Ventura confronts a 9
-11 commissioner and demands the truth.

Why has all the tape of the plane
hitting the Pentagon been confiscated,

national security?

I have no idea.

Conspiracy theories about the 9 -11
attack on the Pentagon exploded on the

anniversary.

When a 9 -11 commissioner slipped up on
national television.

There were many times you were afraid,
especially when I was standing in front

of the Pentagon that night, seeing one
of our fortresses pried open by a

missile, an airplane, pried open by a
missile.

Pried open by a missile?

Something exploded at the Pentagon.

But was it a jetliner?

The only bodies found at the scene were
Pentagon employees.

But there's never been evidence of
passengers' bodies being recovered from

Pentagon wreckage.

The Flight 77 victims were only
identified later at Dover Air Force

miles away.

Now. Jesse Ventura's team finds
eyewitnesses to confirm expert opinion

explosion. People who are outside and
inside the Pentagon.

I arrived at a D .C. diner to meet April
Gallup.

She was a U .S. Army specialist working
inside the Pentagon the morning of 9 -11

when something exploded 30 feet from her
desk.

And she wasn't alone.

She brought her two -month -old baby to
work.

When I went to sit down at the computer,
I put my son's stroller right beside

me. As soon as I went to turn on the
computer, boom.

A massive explosion.

And this was the plane hitting the
Pentagon.

To me, it sounded like a bomb. It
sounded like a bomb. It sounded like a

I was covered from here all the way
down. People were saying, help me, save

And so I low crawled out under my elbows
and I reached over the debris that we

were climbing over and I pulled up the
baby by the onesie and put him over my

shoulder. And we went out, came out of
the gaping hole I passed out.

So you walked out the hole that the
plane supposedly created?

Did you at all see an airplane?

I did. That's why it was really hard for
me to believe.

June found even more supporting evidence
when she met news cameraman Bob Pugh

near the Capitol.

He started filming within five minutes
of the explosion.

This will be the actual unedited video
that I shot that morning.

What's happening here?

This is the first frame I shot. This was
about 100 yards from the impact site or

the site of the fire.

Just to stop you a minute.

Have you ever been to another plane
crash site? I was at the Air Florida

in 1980 when it hit the Talmud River
when it took off from Washington

Airport.

And how did that differ from this?

It was identifiable. I mean, the tail
was sticking out of the water.

There was debris.

They actually recovered a lot of the
victims still in their seats.

But look how clean the lawn is. I know.

There is no sign that a plane has been
anywhere near this launch. I was looking

for pieces, anything to identify what I
might be looking at, and I saw nothing.

No luggage, no wheels, no engines,
nothing that resembled an aircraft.

There is a picture of a hole, and it's
basically the size of a two -car garage.

That hole in the Pentagon was relatively
small.

Too small to be made by a 757.

If it looked bigger, it's because of the
fire and structure collapse that

followed. I couldn't discern a mark of
the wings as they came in. I can't

logically make that fit with what they
tell me happened here.

April Gallup's story picks up in the
hospital.

April said that she and her son were
recovering from their injuries when she

a visit.

From the military brass.

And they asked you what you thought
happened.

I said, well, I thought it was a bomb.

And they were like, no, it was this.

Then they corrected you when you said it
was a bomb. Then they informed you, no,

it was an airplane.

Exactly.

Have you testified before the 9 -11
Commission?

No, never been called, never been
contacted.

And I don't know of any video that was
taken earlier by anyone.

Since 9 -11, have you been threatened in
any way? Have you been told to keep

your mouth shut? Yes, I have.

Who does that?

That was my military leader.

Do you feel threatened today, too?

Yes, I do.

And you know what?

I'm just going to go.

After all these years, April Gallup
still fears the government is out to

her.

For good reason.

She filed a lawsuit against the
government, claiming Flight 77's black

will indicate the jet passed over the
Pentagon amid an explosion and fireball

from a planted bomb, bombs and or
missile.

The FBI said the boxes were recovered.

But get this.

The government says their cockpit voice
recorders were badly damaged, useless,

convenient.

April, be careful.

This conspiracy was looking all too
obvious. But there was one more loose

clear up.

Look, there was at least one phone call
made from that jet while it was

happening.

Coming up, an amazing accusation,
evidence that phone calls from the jet

have been faked.

This is called a morph. A morph is where
it goes from one voice to the other

voice. This song is urgent, all right.

That's a monstrous motive.

Was the attack planned as part of a
Pentagon plot to cover up trillions of

missing dollars?

You're putting planes into the World
Trade Center to send us off to war.

Why wouldn't we add a little icing to
the cake? We got some major troubles in

the Pentagon that we got to account for.

And later, the governor storms into the
Pentagon and demands the truth from a

member of the 9 -11 Commission.

I'm not sure if you just think the 9 -11
Commission was duped. Oh, no, I think

the 9 -11 Commission was duped.

To me, it sounded like a bomb.

I just spoke with a lady named April
Gallup. She worked right where this

happened in the Pentagon.

And she was there that day. She even
walked out the damn hole that was

by the plane.

And she doesn't recall seeing one thing
that indicated the plane had crashed

there. Yet we're supposed to believe
government people that weren't even

Look, there was at least one phone call
made from that jet while it was

happening. There were passengers on that
plane that had this experience. These

are real people we're talking about, not
just an abstraction, not just an idea.

Flight 77 disappeared from radar for 28
minutes before the Pentagon was hit.

The only evidence the jet was still
airborne came from phone calls allegedly

placed from inside.

George W. Bush's solicitor general, Ted
Olson, says he received two calls from

his wife, Barbara.

But that story is about to be disputed,
disproven, and exposed as a

cruel ploy.

We have a problem with an impossible
call. It didn't happen.

Dr. A .K. Dudney speaks to investigator
June Sarpong from Ontario, Canada.

He's a noted computer scientist.

He conducted tests proving that cell
phone calls could not have been made

the jet.

It flew too fast and too high to connect
with any cell towers.

It couldn't have been cell phone calls.

Within a few days of 9 -11, Olson
changed his story to say that it was the

of the seat phone.

Were there even passenger seat phones on
Flight 77?

A meticulous researcher noticed on the
American Airlines website that the 757

equipment was not equipped with back of
the seat or air phones, as they called

them. And then later on, at the Masui
trial in 2006...

An FBI source reported to the court
that, in fact, Ted Olson received no

phone calls from his wife except
possibly one in which the connection

zero seconds.

Zero seconds?

That would mean no conversation at all.

We have a pretty big contradiction
because we've got Olson claiming that

told him that there are Arab hijackers
with box cutters on board.

And we've got the FBI saying, no, that
call didn't happen.

Wow. Is this guy saying Ted Olson lied
about his wife's last words?

I prefer to believe that Olson is
telling the truth, that he may have been

by someone pretending to be his wife.

What kind of technology would be needed
to fake a phone call?

Better yet, how could a guy not know
what his own wife sounds like?

So you're a forensic scientist?

Yeah. Turns out, it's easy.

Daniel was getting a first -hand
demonstration from forensic audio

Kent Gibson.

What should I do?

A man or a woman?

Man. Okay, let's try it.

My plane has been hijacked. What should
I do?

Right now, is there a woman?

My plane has been hijacked. What should
I do?

I've got another machine over here,
which is a little different. This time,

guy took my voice.

And made it his.

This is called a morph. A morph is where
it goes from one voice to the other

voice. That's a morph from me to Jesse
and Pat. This sounded urgent, all right.

But where do we start?

This sounded urgent, all right. But
where do we start?

It's easy to see how they could take any
voice and make it sound like Olsen's

wife. This sounded urgent, all right.

But where do we start?

There's no question that there are some
serious, serious problems with the

interpretation given to the events of 9
-11 by the White House.

So if it wasn't al -Qaeda terrorists who
hit the Pentagon, who did?

And what was the motive?

I'd found it was more than a missile,
more than a bomb.

There was real speculation that this was
an inside job.

Okay, so what reason did you guys come
up with for the Pentagon to attack its

own headquarters?

Well, it's simple. If you believe the
theory that the Bush administration

a pretext to go to war in Iraq.

Now, let's take it a step further. The
day before 9 -11, on the 10th of

September, Donald Rumsfeld holds a press
conference and talks about they can't

account for $2 .3 trillion of Pentagon
expenses.

According to some estimates, we cannot
track $2 .3 trillion.

trillion in transactions. And amazingly,
the exact place that quote plane hit

was where all the computers and data
were stored at for what Rumsfeld talked

about. Yeah, it's unthinkable until you
think about it. More than records were

lost in the impact area.

One army office lost 34 of its 65
employees.

The office was called Resource Services
Washington.

The victims were at their deaths.

Most were civilians, bookkeepers,
accountants, budget analysts, the folks

know most about a cover -up and who was
stealing the money.

What does Rumsfeld have to say about
that? Nothing. We've tried to contact

office on multiple occasions, and we get
no answer.

I've served in the military. There would
be one room that they would keep all

this stuff. There would be multiple dots
in there that need to be connected.

And I can connect them.

It's an extension of the original law.

Getting two for one.

You're putting planes into the World
Trade Center to send us off to war. Wait

minute. Let me finish. To send us off to
war on top of it. Why wouldn't we add a

little icing to the cake? We got some
major troubles in the Pentagon. If we

a missile in there and blow it up, no
one will ever talk about that September

10th press conference again. And am I
not right on that?

It was time to visit the Pentagon and
hit the government with the evidence.

Coming up, the governor marches into the
Pentagon and confronts a member of the

9 -11 Commission.

The day before 9 -11, Secretary of
Defense Donald Rumsfeld reports that

have simply lost $2 .3 trillion.

You recall that, the day before 9 -11?

Was the 9 -11 attack on the Pentagon an
inside job?

With Vice President Dick Cheney and
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld

in the conspiracy,

Jesse Ventura charges into the U .S.
Defense Headquarters to demand the

I made my way through security.

I met the Defense Department escorts.

trying to lead me to a PR flak.

Not interested.

I wanted to see the impact site.

This is where the records for that
missing $2 .3 trillion were kept.

This is where all the financial people
were killed.

This is the angle, right, where the
plane allegedly came in at.

There was a security camera in the
parking lot, just to the right. There

security camera.

On the far end of the building that
caught the aircraft.

Is he kidding me?

This guy's just spouting 9 -11
commission script.

The only video they've released doesn't
show a jet at all.

I still question why we can't see all
the security cameras. I don't understand

why we're not allowed to see them.

A jet, a missile, a bomb.

All the evidence has been swept away and
papered over.

I needed to talk to a member of the 9
-11 Commission, find out why these

questions never made it to the official
9 -11 report.

Janice Kephart was commission counsel.

Her name's on the report.

Let her defend it.

One thing that troubled me greatly was
the fact that the day before 9 -11,

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has
a press conference where he reports

that they have simply lost $2 .3
trillion.

They don't have receipts for it. They
don't know where it went.

Do you recall that the day before 9 -11?

Well, if you don't, that's what
happened.

According to some estimates, we cannot
track $2 .3 trillion in transactions.

And how ironic that the exact place that
was struck in the Pentagon.

was where all those records were
supposedly had to be.

Now all destroyed.

So I guess the 2 .3 trillion, we as
taxpayers just say, c 'est la vie.

Now isn't that a bit much?

I have no idea.

Why has all the tape of the plane
hitting the Pentagon been confiscated,

national security, and we're not allowed
to view the plane hitting the Pentagon?

And don't come back with me and say, but
they did.

You saw that little flash of five
frames.

I have no idea.

Well, you know, the government... It's
very Warren commission -ish. The

government has a tremendous propensity
for secrecy. And the Defense Department

and others do as well.

You believe that?

The lawyer admits.

Our government's still hiding the truth
from you and me.

There was no rubble outside.

All there was was a hole.

What happened to where the wings hit?
Ask that question to our 9 -11

staffer, who was the only survivor from
that room who made it out.

I did talk to April Gallup, who was
actually inside the room in the

and she looked me in the eye and told me
unequivocally, I saw nothing that

indicated a plane hit the Pentagon.

I felt that a bomb had exploded.

Their witnesses could always have
different versions of different things.

Okay, so, Governor, you've asked me a
lot of questions that indicate that you

not really believe that 9 -11 happened
the way it did. So what exactly is your

bottom line and where are you going with
this? My bottom line is the truth.

I mean, I'm not sure if you just think
the 9 -11 Commission was duped or if you

think 9 -11 Commission was part of the
problem. Oh, no, I think the 9 -11

Commission was duped. I don't think you
got all the information.

I think information was withheld from
you all, much the same as the Warren

Commission and the murder of John
Kennedy.

Tons of information was withheld.

And that's what it gets down to, the 9
-11 Commission itself.

Janice Kephart told me it was under a
time crunch, underfunded, not allowed to

include dissenting opinions, and got no
cooperation from the White House.

We only had to do subpoenas in a couple
different areas. Subpoenas would be

required in this investigation.

Why would someone in government not want
to come and tell you what they know?

When 3 ,000 people were murdered that
day.

Because it's always about protection of
the institution in the end. Wow.

That's really eye -opening for me as an
American citizen to learn that

protecting the institution is more
important than learning the truth.

It'll take more than a 400 -page report
to put these conspiracy theories to

rest.

And you know what's worse?

The people behind the conspiracy.

Behind the cover -up.

They're still running our government.

Still lying.

Still hiding the truth.

Was it a missile that hit the Pentagon?

Was it a bomb?

Or was it what they told us? It's been
almost ten years.

And I wouldn't be asking these questions
if the government would play straight

with us. If they have the footage from
all those surveillance cameras.

Let us see it. If there was no stand
down order, prove it. And don't question

patriotism because I'm looking for
answers.

One thing I've learned, if you don't
hold their feet to the fire, everybody

burned. I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is
Conspiracy Theory.