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Hidden power.
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Secrets. Cover -ups.
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Corruption.
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You think you know the whole story?
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Think again.
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I've been governor.
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A Navy SEAL.
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A fighter.
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I've heard things that'll blow your
mind. And now I think it's time you get
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whole story.
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Now.
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The biggest conspiracy America's ever
seen. The JFK assassination.
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Oswald was a pest.
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No question about it. You thought the
case was closed.
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But Jesse Ventura tears it wide open.
You were literally 10 to 15 feet away
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from the fatal headshot and the Warren
Commission never even called to have you
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testify? New evidence.
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And new suspects who still pose a threat
today.
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I sleep with a gun under my pillow.
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Should I?
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Maybe. Maybe.
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Did Lee Harvey Oswald act alone?
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Did Lee Harvey Oswald act at all?
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Were four future presidents involved in
the plot?
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I came across the astounding fact that
he had been unable to remember where he
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was on November 22, 1963.
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And what's the connection to Watergate?
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Newly discovered documents.
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An exclusive deathbed confession.
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I was brought in for a big event.
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The more exposure I get in telling my
story puts me in a greater level of
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danger. All new Declassified.
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How much do I fear for my life?
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The JFK Conspiracy.
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I'm Jesse Ventura and this is Conspiracy
Theory.
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Jesse Ventura's investigation into the
JFK conspiracy has led to a motel on a
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seedy stretch of Hollywood Boulevard.
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He's here to meet a man who claims to
hold evidence that could crack the
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government conspiracy of our time.
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The man is afraid.
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Very afraid.
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For good reason.
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What is it?
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The evidence this man is holding just
might be the smoking gun.
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He confessed that he participated in the
murder of John Kennedy, do you? That's
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exactly true.
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The assassination of John F. Kennedy.
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When it comes to conspiracies, it's the
granddaddy of them all.
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If you can get away with killing a
president, You can get away with
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When I was a teenager back in the 60s, I
believed the Warren Commission when
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they said Lee Harvey Oswald did it by
himself.
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But too much didn't add up. The
government couldn't wait to close the
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the case.
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Me, I never let it go.
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I've done my own research from Dallas to
Havana, and I still haven't found all
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the answers.
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That's how I wound up on this bridge. A
guy named Ron said he had some new
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evidence. I have some very classified
papers here that I've held on for years.
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But my health won't let me do that
anymore.
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So I wanted your team to investigate.
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Okay.
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They deal with the assassination of
President Kennedy.
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Ron didn't want to give his last name.
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He did want to give me those papers,
classified CIA papers.
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He said he was developing a movie about
the assassination when someone gave them
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to him.
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He took one look and locked them away
until he decided to hand them to me.
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You know, I've always followed the
Kennedy killing and studied it. Is there
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something new here I'm going to learn?
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It tells a lot of different stories.
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The CIA is at the top of the list and
Nixon.
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Nixon. Nixon.
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Richard Nixon.
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The assassination of one president leads
to another president.
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This story needs to be told to the
people. They need the truth because
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has ever told the truth.
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Where did you get these?
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I got them from a CIA agent.
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Now, that's a little bizarre.
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CIA agents don't normally start handing
out classified documents.
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No, but this young man wanted to see
this story told.
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Where is he today?
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I think he's dead.
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You seem frightened a little, are you?
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I've been frightened during... Because
you have these?
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Yes, sir.
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And I sleep with a gun under my pillow.
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Well, now that I have them, should I?
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Maybe. Maybe.
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He sleeps with a gun under his pillow.
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After all this time.
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The forces behind the conspiracy are
still out there.
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These CIA documents might give a clue
who they are.
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I had some reading.
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Turns out those papers set out a motive
for JFK's murder in black and white.
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And sure enough, Richard Nixon is in the
middle.
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It goes back to 1959.
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when Vice President Nixon oversaw
Operation 40, a CIA hit squad out to
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Fidel Castro, who just seized power in
Cuba.
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After JFK was elected, Operation 40
agents joined a failed invasion of Cuba
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at the Bay of Pigs.
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According to these papers, JFK refused
to try again.
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So the Operation 40 gang decided to kill
JFK.
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They figured they'd point the finger at
Castro and get rid of him for good.
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This gets even wilder, people. These
documents link the killing of JFK to
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Watergate. How's that?
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Well, there was this Operation 40 back
in the 50s that Richard Nixon was in
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charge of.
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that had E. Howard Hunt, Frank Sturgis,
all of the same cast of characters that
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ended up being involved in the Watergate
break -in. These guys are working for
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the committee to re -elect the
president. In those days, the aptly
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They were an assassination team back in
the 50s. Nixon leaves offices in the
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private sector for eight years, but
these guys kept on operating.
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Comes 1972,
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up comes Watergate. I think Nixon was
set up on Watergate.
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by these same people that these
documents now link to JFK. But why would
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want to do that to Nixon? Nixon had
asked the CIA for all documents
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dealing with the Kennedy murder, and I
think that these rogues in the CIA did
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not want Nixon sticking his nose into
the JFK murder eight years after it
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happened. But, Governor, where do we
start on this?
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Well, I'm going to go talk to somebody
that knows a lot about it, but
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unfortunately he's dead.
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Not that that would stop you.
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The man who knew more than anyone about
the forces behind the JFK assassination
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was Air Force Colonel L. Fletcher
Prouty.
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Prouty worked in the Pentagon as a
military liaison to the CIA.
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He died in 2001.
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But he left his secrets with a man named
Len Osanic.
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Osanic got Prouty to record hundreds of
hours of testimony on video.
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I need to know about the CIA, the Secret
Service, the Pentagon, the Russians, as
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well as the Cubans.
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The murder was a carefully planned job.
Remove the protection.
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You're going to have somebody
assassinated.
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And it was evident in the area of Dallas
that the Secret Service coverage either
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didn't exist or was at a minimum. It was
a major, controlled coup d 'etat that
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was absolutely effective.
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Letcher Prouty backed those CIA
documents, but he also took the
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another direction, back to Lee Harvey
Oswald.
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Which means that he had been with the
CIA.
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Oswald was a patsy, no question about
it.
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And that the murderers were
professionals that I knew existed.
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He said it flat out.
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Oswald was framed.
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I'd heard enough.
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Yeah, there are a lot of different ways
to go in this case, but there was only
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one way for me to go.
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I was headed to Dallas.
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Coming up. Fire in the hole.
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Dealey Pleasure.
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Jesse Ventura finds shocking new
evidence at the JFK crime scene.
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You were literally.
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10 to 15 feet away from the fatal
headshot, and the Warren Commission
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called to have him testify?
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Then, a surprise admission at a place
built to support the Warren Commission's
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lone gunman theory.
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Well, I go home. I think there's more to
it than Lee Harvey Awful.
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And later.
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Jesse confronts the man who thought he'd
put all the conspiracy theories to
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rest. You won't let me talk because I
want to interject some stuff here. I'm
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sorry, Vince, but... Jesse
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Ventura
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has touched down in dollars to reopen
the investigation into the assassination
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of President John F. Kennedy.
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Dealey Plaza.
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This is where the president was murdered
on November 22nd, 1963.
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The questions are, who fired the shots
and where did they come from?
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Several police officers are rushing up
the hill at this time.
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This is the event that inspired my work
with conspiracies.
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This is why I always question authority.
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This is where it happened.
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There's the turn in the road where the
motorcade slowed down as Kennedy's
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convertible approached.
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Up there, that's the Texas Book
Depository, sixth floor.
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That's where Oswald supposedly fired the
shots.
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But over there, that's the grassy knoll.
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That's where a lot of witnesses thought
the shots came from.
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That's where the conspiracy theories
were born.
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And that's Bill Newman.
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He was standing right there on that
terrible day.
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He's one of the few witnesses who
survived to tell his story.
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Many others died mysteriously.
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Bill may be alive today because he
slipped through the cracks.
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Well, Bill, this is about the spot right
here that you and your family were
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standing at? That's correct.
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and my two children, Bill, who was four
at the time, and Clayton, who was two.
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President Kennedy came down just about
the center lane. He was out from the
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probably some 10 or 12 feet.
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But you were this close.
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As the president's car turned left onto
Elm Street, probably some 100 feet or
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less from us, the first two shots rang
out. And it was a boom, boom like that,
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just as the car got straight in front of
us.
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Third shot rang out.
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The side of President Kennedy's head
blew off.
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You could see the brain matter and the
blood fly up.
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Mrs. Kennedy, she screamed out, oh my
God, no, they've shot Jack.
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I turned to Gail and I said, that's it,
hit the ground and we threw our children
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down and covered them on the ground.
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I thought the shot had come from
directly behind.
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Directly behind? Shot down from behind.
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Did you see anything in the book
depository building or anything?
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No.
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No, I mean, I had no reason to look at
the book depository.
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I read the report you were interviewed
by the FBI, a one -page report.
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Your wife, about, what, two -thirds of a
page report?
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You have it. I have it.
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There's yours and there's your wife.
That was the only, I would say, the
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official contact that we had with her.
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Any authorities.
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You were literally 10 to 15 feet away
from the fatal headshot, and the Warren
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Commission never even called to have you
testify or talk to you?
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No, Governor, we were never contacted by
the Warren Commission, and I question
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that because others like yourself would
ask that same question.
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The Warren Commission.
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The new president, Lyndon Johnson, set
it up a week after the assassination to
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investigate the killing.
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The report concluded Lee Harvey Oswald
acted alone.
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But before he died, commission member
Gerald Ford admitted that the CIA had
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destroyed or withheld critical evidence.
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A Warren commission didn't even talk to
you. Never interviewed.
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No.
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It seems to me like they had the answer
before they asked the questions. They
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already knew the conclusion.
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The Warren Commission's lone gunman
theory relies on something called the
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bullet. One bullet would have caused all
the non -fatal wounds to JFK and Texas
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Governor John Connally sitting in front
of him.
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Warren Commission staffer Arlen Specter
came up with that one.
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What do you know?
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He wound up a sinner.
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Gerald Ford later admitted that he'd
changed the description of JFK's wounds
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make the theory sound more plausible.
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He wound up president.
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You help the Warren Commission in the
cover -up, good things can happen.
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So the fatal shot, as far as you're
concerned. Fatal shot came from right
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Remember, Kennedy said went back and to
the left.
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Back and to the left, all right?
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Back and left.
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The sixth floor of the Texas School Book
Depository, where Oswald allegedly
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fired the shots, is now a museum.
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The museum presents the Warren
Commission's version of events.
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How come we can't ever get into the real
shooter nest?
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Preservation. The wood floor is the same
way it was back then. Even the markings
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on the floor, which are visible on the
crime scene photos, are still there.
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Preservation is the only reason that
they do that and keep it the way it is.
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Yeah, see, I have a difficult time with
him making these shots.
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I think that it's virtually next to
impossible. The guy was not a very good
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to begin with because in the military,
when you only qualify as a marksman,
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that's the lowest you can be.
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I had a chance to test the same type of
rifle, same ammunition, and try to
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recreate Oswald's shooting sequence.
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Assassination expert Jim Fetzer warned
me about the weapon.
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The Mannlicher Carcano, the bolt action
was so difficult that when you side in
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with the telescopic sight, after you
work the bolt, you're thrown off the
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and you have to re -side again.
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We got the crate.
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It's supposed to be 190!
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to recreate the elevation and distance
of Oswald's perch.
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Those hay bales represent the spots
where JFK was hit.
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Oswald supposedly got off three shots in
6 .3 seconds.
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He had to shoot through trees, too, and
his target was moving.
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Just for the record, I was an expert
marksman in both pistol and rifle.
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When I was governor of Minnesota, I
amazingly still qualified as an expert
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years old.
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All right, weapons going hot.
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Go ahead.
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Sure.
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Stand by, fire in the hole.
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Yeah, slam it.
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Slam it? Yeah.
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Stand by, fire in the hole.
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Then take the rest out.
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How fast?
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117.
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Well, let's go again.
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The Mannlicher is so cheap and hard to
work, there's no way Oswald could get
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three shots that fast.
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How much?
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884. Fire in the hole.
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I hit the target a few times and even
got in a head shot.
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But nowhere near the time Oswald
supposedly pulled it off.
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And he did it in six.
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This is impossible.
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And I'm not the only one. In the past, a
lot of reenactments by expert marksmen
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failed, including ones by CBS News and
even the Warren Commission.
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I told the sixth floor museum curator,
Gary Mack, about our little test.
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You're the curator of this museum, so
naturally you have to follow museum
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policy.
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Let's pretend we're not here.
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Okay. Let's pretend you and I are
sitting out having a cold one. Okay.
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good. What's your position at that
point?
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Personally. Personally. Personal
position.
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Well, I go home.
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I think there's more to it than Lee
Harvey Oswald.
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Even the guy who's paid to spout the
party line doesn't buy the official
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I can't prove it.
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I have some bits and pieces that to me
say there's got to be more to it than
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Oswald. But I can't prove it.
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And there are a lot more questions about
Lee Harvey Oswald's actions that day.
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Evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald was set
up.
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I submit to you that Lee Harvey Oswald
was a low -level agent of the federal
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government of the United States. Then,
hiding in plain sight, Oswald's widow
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meets the governor.
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He asked me a very brutal question.
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Would you sacrifice your children for
the truth?
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And later, yet another U .S. president
is linked to the assassination
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conspiracy. He had been unable to
remember where he was on November 22,
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Jesse Ventura and investigator Alex
Piper are in Dallas, Texas, tracing the
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route taken by Lee Harvey Oswald after
he allegedly shot President John F.
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Kennedy. His path from the book
depository.
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would lead to his death two days later
when he was shot by Jack Ruby in the
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basement of Dallas police headquarters.
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After the assassination, Lee Harvey
Oswald had plenty of chances to
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but he didn't. He hopped a bus, but
didn't make it to the Greyhound station.
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He got out in traffic and took a taxi
cab past the train station and over the
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bridge to his rooming house a couple of
miles away.
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And when he gets here, he went inside,
he changed his clothes, supposedly,
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obviously picked up the revolver and
gun.
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And then the lady who owned this place
said to him, you know, the president's
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been shot, you know, because, of course,
it was all on television and all that.
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And then he just went out the door. At
this point, Oswald supposedly took off
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foot. He'd walked three quarters of a
mile when he was stopped on this
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residential street by a cop named J .D.
Tippett.
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There you see 10th and Patton.
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Oswald supposedly fit a Dallas police
radio description of a JFK suspect, a
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white male, around 30 years old, about 5
'10". That description was based on a
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single witness in Dealey Plaza who said
he saw someone in a book depository
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window. How could he tell the guy's
height six floors up?
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Tippett is coming the same direction and
pulls, you know, and then confronts
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Oswald right here. They have a
conversation out the window.
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Tippett gets out of the car and starts
to walk around, and that's when he's
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shot. And that's when Oswald shot him
about four or five times with a
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and yet they found shell casings on the
ground.
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Why would he leave the evidence of shell
casings lying next to the body?
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You know, too pat, too easy, you know,
is what it says to me. It's too perfect.
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After the shooting, Oswald continued his
walk.
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Is this location on the way? Well, it's
in the general direction, but it is a
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slight detour. And this is where the
official story gets even more dicey.
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Because the next thing Lee Harvey Oswald
did was go to the movies.
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Jim Mars was waiting for us outside the
Texas theater where Lee Harvey Oswald
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was arrested.
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Mars is a major figure in the JFK
conspiracy world. His book was a source
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Oliver Stone's JFK movie.
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I always found it kind of strange that.
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Here the guy has just murdered the
president, allegedly shoots a police
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and ends up here.
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Now, why Oswald was in the theater opens
up a whole other area of investigation.
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So I think he was here to try to make
some kind of contact to find out what's
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going on, what's happened here. So
you're saying he came here to meet a
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and then whoever it was that he was
working for or working with cut him
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I think that's what happened. And called
the cops on him.
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So who was the contact?
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Jim Mars says Oswald worked for the CIA.
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I submit to you that Lee Harvey Oswald
was a low -level agent of the federal
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government of the United States.
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Other evidence backs Jim Mars and
Fletcher Prouty's claim that Oswald was
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CIA.
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Oswald was a U .S. Marine stationed at
the CIA base in Atsugi, Japan.
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At 20, the ex -Marine defected to the
Soviet Union, then returned to Texas two
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years later without a hitch, but with a
new wife.
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Then he struck up an unlikely friendship
with an educated older man named George
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DeMorenschild. A lot of experts think
DeMorenschild was Oswald's CIA handler.
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If anyone would know if Oswald was CIA,
it's his widow Marina.
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We did some digging.
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We found that after all these years, she
still lives in the Dallas area.
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I got her on the phone.
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I think that Lee worked for the
government. I think that he was an
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operative.
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How much do I fear for my life?
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Do you know what the Navy SEALs are?
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Well, I'm one of them. I don't carry
that type of fear.
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All right, bye -bye.
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Her great fears for her children.
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And I can't blame her in light of what
she's lived through and what she knows.
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She asked me a very brutal question.
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She said, would you sacrifice your
children for the truth?
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Marina Oswald agreed to meet with me. I
had a lot of questions to ask.
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Coming up, Jesse Ventura meets Marina
Oswald, the widow of JFK's alleged
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assassin. She said that she initially
believed Lee did it because all she
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learned was the government side of it.
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Then, confrontation with the man who's
tried to kill off the JFK conspiracy
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theories. Okay, off.
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And later.
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Let's listen to it.
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Exclusive. A bombshell confession from
one of the conspirators.
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Jesse Ventura is breaking new ground in
the JFK conspiracy.
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Evidence suggests clear connections
between the alleged assassin and the
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Now the governor is headed off to meet
Lee Harvey Oswald's widow.
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Marina Prusakova was 19 and living with
her uncle, a prominent KGB officer, when
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she met the U .S. defector in Minsk in
1961.
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She and Oswald married six weeks later.
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Marina Oswald met me in a public place
just outside Dallas.
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She brought along her second husband,
Kenneth.
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We talked for two and a half hours, but
she refused to speak on camera.
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She said she didn't want to put her
daughters in jeopardy. Nearly 50 years
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later, she's still afraid.
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Asked her point blank, were you a
Russian agent?
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And she said, absolutely not.
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She also felt that Lee was at some level
working with the CIA.
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She did feel also that George
DeMorenshield was a CIA agent.
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She felt that George had came onto the
scene out of nowhere. Like he said, why
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would this rich guy, George
DeMorenshield, take any interest in us?
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poor.
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She said that she initially believed Lee
did it because all she learned was the
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government side.
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But she said today she unequivocally
feels he did not do it.
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I did get this totally verified.
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She took the famous photograph of Lee
Harvey Oswald holding the gun and the
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communist paper. She looked me right in
the eye. She said, yes, I took that
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photograph. It's not doctored. It's not
anything.
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I said, why?
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She said, I don't know why. Lee wanted
it done.
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I got the impression that Lee was under
instruction to get those photos taken.
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And I believe it was all part of
creating the setup, you know, to create
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photos of him with the gun.
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I found an investigator who linked
George H .W.
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Bush to the plot.
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Russ Baker was his name.
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He dug up a lot of secrets about the
Bush family for a new book.
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I want to meet this guy.
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I knew you would.
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I expected another CIA connection, even
another president.
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But Russ Baker was about to tell me
secret history.
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Nobody really thinks of George H .W.
Bush being part of the JFK
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I came across the astounding fact that
he had been unable to remember where he
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was on November 22, 1963.
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And of course, anyone over the age of
five. I remember where I was. I was in
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seventh grade and junior high. They
announced it, dismissed us and sent us
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George H .W. Bush was actually in Dallas
the night before. He stayed overnight
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in Dallas, and that day he was there in
the morning. We only know that the next
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shows up after the shooting in Tyler,
Texas, which is a short plane flight
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there. And he gets up at a Kiwanis Club
meeting and is about to deliver his
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speech. And then he says, I've just
learned that the president has died. And
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then he goes to a public phone and he
calls the FBI and he identifies himself
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name. And he says, I may have some idea
who shot the president.
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What he was doing was creating a reason
to put a document into the government
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records showing that he was trying to be
helpful and that he was in a place
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other than Dallas around the time of the
assassination.
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This move by George H .W. just adds to
suspicions he was involved with the CIA
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long before he was appointed CIA
director by President Gerald Ford in
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Warren Commissioner Gerald Ford.
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Is there documentation that backs this
up? There are two key documents, both
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declassified FBI documents.
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This is an FBI document stating that
George H .W. Bush reported that a young
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Republican in Houston had threatened to
kill the president the day before the
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assassination.
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Moreover, an old friend of his, a fellow
by the name of George DeMorenchild, was
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essentially the handler for Lee Harvey
Oswald.
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George DeMorenchild.
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Most every person agreed he was the CIA
connection to Oswald. We didn't know his
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other connections.
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He's a good friend of George H .W. Bush?
George H .W. Bush was a roommate in
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prep school with his nephew.
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Really? And then there's a connection
there, naturally, because George H .W.
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Bush was CIA, and so was George
DeMorenchild.
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Well, that's right.
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Oswald's handler, this George
DeMorenchild, whatever happened to him?
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Well, fascinating thing, Jesse. In 1976,
when George Bush was the head of the
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CIA, he received a letter.
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from George DeMorenchild, and he says,
Dear George, congratulations.
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I need your help.
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I'm in trouble. There's some kind of a
net closing in on me. Perhaps I've been
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indiscreet and talking too much about
Lee Harvey Oswald. Six months later,
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George DeMorenchild is dead from a
shotgun blast to the head.
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They called it a suicide.
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So we got another connection to a
president.
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It seems a little tenuous to me.
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Well, check this out. This is also from
Russ Baker. This was taken outside the
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school book depository just after the
assassination. Just after it. Does this
468
00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:36,830
man look familiar to you?
469
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:38,830
Man, I don't know.
470
00:31:39,290 --> 00:31:43,370
That looks a lot like George H .W. Bush
to me. Oh, come on. That could be
471
00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:46,870
anyone. Well, a lot of people seem to
think it. That does bear resemblance.
472
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,380
Then there's the famous picture of the
three tramps that were arrested in
473
00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:53,000
Plaza right after the shooting.
474
00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:56,940
Now, there they are being marched across
Dealey Plaza.
475
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:02,300
Many experts say they were dressed too
good to be tramps. And you see the short
476
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:05,180
tramp in the back, the old man tramp
right there?
477
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,880
A lot of experts think that that is E.
Howard Hunt, the CIA agent.
478
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Operation Bodyguard?
479
00:32:11,740 --> 00:32:12,740
The water knee burglar?
480
00:32:12,940 --> 00:32:13,940
Yep.
481
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:15,820
The one and only.
482
00:32:19,370 --> 00:32:24,610
Coming up, Vincent Bugliosi put Charles
Manson behind bars, but he's not willing
483
00:32:24,610 --> 00:32:29,690
to confront JFK's real killers. Tell me
he had no connection to the CIA.
484
00:32:30,210 --> 00:32:36,050
I'm sorry, Vince. And later, the tramp's
photos lead to a startling confession
485
00:32:36,050 --> 00:32:39,350
and make the conspiracy very real.
486
00:32:39,550 --> 00:32:42,650
Do you feel fear today in speaking out?
487
00:32:47,820 --> 00:32:52,500
Jesse Ventura's investigation into the
JFK conspiracy has taken him to Los
488
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:57,140
Angeles. His next stop is at the home of
a very influential friend.
489
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,540
Vincent Bugliosi was the DA who put away
Charles Manson.
490
00:33:01,940 --> 00:33:06,740
He's the prosecutor who wants to charge
George W. Bush with murder, religiously
491
00:33:06,740 --> 00:33:08,600
lying to take us to war in Iraq.
492
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,380
And he's author of the latest, most
comprehensive book on the JFK
493
00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:16,080
More than 1 ,600 pages.
494
00:33:17,220 --> 00:33:19,720
concluding that Oswald did it on his
own.
495
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:25,640
Vince, in a nutshell, why do you think
Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and killed
496
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,640
President Kennedy?
497
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:32,220
Jesse, Lee Harvey Oswald, everything,
everything pointed to this guy's guilt.
498
00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:35,720
Let's assume for the sake of argument
that the CIA or the mob said, let's kill
499
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:41,280
Kennedy. Oswald would have been just the
type of guy that the CIA or mob would
500
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,160
want to rely upon to commit the biggest
murder.
501
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,820
in American history. I'm being sarcastic
now.
502
00:33:47,180 --> 00:33:51,260
Okay, then let me be sarcastic back.
Just the type of guy you'd set up to be
503
00:33:51,260 --> 00:33:54,720
patsy. You haven't read about... I've
read a lot.
504
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,880
All right, let me ask you this question,
okay? You're going to get some tight
505
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,520
-lipped assassin that's got a track
record for you that you know is going to
506
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,520
the job done.
507
00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:08,320
You'd hire the good guy that can shoot
that will get the job done. That's
508
00:34:08,420 --> 00:34:12,500
And you'll set up the crazy guy. That's
the answer. And you'll set up the crazy
509
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:14,340
guy to take the fall. Okay.
510
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:20,480
There's no evidence that Lee Harvey
Oswald ever had any association of any
511
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,080
whatsoever with these groups believed to
be behind the assassination.
512
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,679
Okay. You won't let me talk. No, wait a
while. You got your... Wait a while.
513
00:34:30,699 --> 00:34:33,179
Wait a while now. Are you going to let
me interrupt you when you're talking?
514
00:34:33,380 --> 00:34:37,480
But when you tell me he had no
connection to the CIA, who's George
515
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,800
Shield? That was his handbook.
516
00:34:40,020 --> 00:34:40,759
George DeMoren was not CIA.
517
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,920
Absolutely not.
518
00:34:42,260 --> 00:34:43,260
Absolutely not.
519
00:34:43,980 --> 00:34:48,320
Vince. Absolutely not. Both the House
Select Committee and... The Warren
520
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,040
Commission. And those I should... The
Warren Commission I definitely should
521
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,540
believe. Wait a minute. Turn the camera
off.
522
00:34:56,090 --> 00:34:59,570
Vince is a friend, but that's what we're
up against.
523
00:34:59,970 --> 00:35:04,030
You can pile up all the evidence in the
world and they don't want to listen.
524
00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:08,090
Why hasn't anything leaked out in close
to 47 years from all these
525
00:35:08,090 --> 00:35:11,010
conspiratorial groups? Because there's
nothing to leak out.
526
00:35:11,290 --> 00:35:13,250
Well, something did leak out.
527
00:35:15,690 --> 00:35:18,710
I got a lead on that photo of the three
tramps.
528
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:24,250
A guy said he had firsthand evidence
about that and a lot more.
529
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:28,790
He told me to show up at a motel on
Hollywood Boulevard.
530
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:31,290
This wasn't the walk of fame.
531
00:35:31,930 --> 00:35:33,810
This guy was lying low.
532
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:43,408
Who's that?
533
00:35:43,410 --> 00:35:44,490
Jesse Ventura.
534
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:58,310
Saint John Hunt is the son of E. Howard
Hunt, the CIA spook who ran Vice
535
00:35:58,310 --> 00:36:04,850
President Nixon's hit squad, Operation
40, who reunited the old gang to break
536
00:36:04,850 --> 00:36:06,310
the law for President Nixon.
537
00:36:06,910 --> 00:36:10,490
He went to prison for masterminding the
Watergate break -in.
538
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:17,450
Hunt died in 2007, and he took his
secrets with him. Well, not all of them.
539
00:36:18,010 --> 00:36:22,470
Your father, E. Howard Hunt, he was
involved, obviously, he was a CIA
540
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:25,190
his whole life. 27 years in the CIA.
541
00:36:25,550 --> 00:36:30,550
And there's many tie -ins with the
murder of John Kennedy as well as
542
00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:34,950
Certainly you have the Cuban faction
that was involved in Watergate and can
543
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:38,830
traced back to the Cuban Revolution and
to the overthrow of the Castro regime.
544
00:36:39,230 --> 00:36:43,990
St. John, let me ask you this. Do you
feel fear today in speaking out? It's a
545
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:46,970
more sunlight that comes onto this. The
more exposure I get.
546
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:51,900
in telling my story, puts me in a
greater level of danger.
547
00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:56,740
St. John Hunt's story provided some
dangerous answers.
548
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:02,940
First off, there was that photo of the
three tramps at Dealey Plaza, the ones
549
00:37:02,940 --> 00:37:05,480
who looked too clean -cut to be hobos.
550
00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:10,280
You know, my gut has always told me that
that old tramp has just...
551
00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:15,020
So much of a resemblance to my dad. He
had very unique looks. He had a very
552
00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:18,140
long, thin nostrils, you know, pointed
face.
553
00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:20,900
He had this kind of jowl thing going on
here.
554
00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:25,480
Well, if it's any consolation, I've
looked at both your father's photo and I
555
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,940
agree with you. Yeah, I was aware of all
these things, but, you know, I just
556
00:37:29,940 --> 00:37:32,280
didn't know what to think. And, of
course, my dad would never talk about it
557
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:38,660
until he brought me down to his bedside
in Miami, Florida, when it was thought
558
00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:41,100
that he was going to live. much more
than another few weeks.
559
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,840
That's when a father was about to make a
startling confession to his son. St.
560
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,080
John Hunt wanted me to hear some tapes
he'd recorded in his father's final
561
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:59,420
E. Howard Hunt's deathbed confessions
about who really killed JFK.
562
00:38:00,970 --> 00:38:06,390
He was getting old, and you sat with
him, and he confessed that he
563
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:10,450
in the murder of John Kennedy to you?
That's exactly true. That was stunning
564
00:38:10,450 --> 00:38:11,450
information.
565
00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:13,470
Shocking.
566
00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:18,910
He said that there was, in fact, a plot,
that the plot was to have been carried
567
00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:22,270
out in Miami, and it was changed to
Dallas.
568
00:38:22,610 --> 00:38:26,010
Well, rather than saying anything more,
let's listen to it. All right, here we
569
00:38:26,010 --> 00:38:27,010
go.
570
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:35,810
Coming up, the first time on television,
a JFK conspirator confesses and names
571
00:38:35,810 --> 00:38:40,210
names. I was a bench warmer for the big
event.
572
00:38:44,990 --> 00:38:51,110
Jesse Ventura is with the son of CIA
operative E. Howard Hunt, about to hear
573
00:38:51,110 --> 00:38:55,550
Hunt's deathbed confession of his role
in the JFK murder conspiracy.
574
00:38:56,490 --> 00:39:02,090
He admitted what to you? Exactly. He
admitted that the code name for the
575
00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:05,690
operation to assassinate President
Kennedy was called the Big Event.
576
00:39:06,410 --> 00:39:07,870
And he was proud of it.
577
00:39:08,070 --> 00:39:12,890
How is one proud of that? I mean, they
really felt that determined that Kennedy
578
00:39:12,890 --> 00:39:14,410
was so bad for the country?
579
00:39:14,730 --> 00:39:17,390
Well, not for the country, for the
interests.
580
00:39:17,770 --> 00:39:21,750
Operation 40 took people out. That was
their job. That was their mission.
581
00:39:22,070 --> 00:39:24,270
And it was the same bunch of guys.
582
00:39:24,970 --> 00:39:26,810
that were trying to assassinate Castro.
583
00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:32,150
David Morales, Frank Sturgis, who would
have done anything to avenge the failure
584
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:33,129
at the Bay of Pigs.
585
00:39:33,130 --> 00:39:36,690
Well, rather than saying anything more,
let's listen to it. All right, here we
586
00:39:36,690 --> 00:39:37,690
go.
587
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:46,670
Sturgis and Morales and people of that
yoke stayed in
588
00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:53,270
apartment houses during preparations for
the big event.
589
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,280
Their addresses were very subject to
change.
590
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,120
I was a benchwarmer on it.
591
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:09,840
We backtracked the chain of command
during the run -up for the big
592
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:10,840
event.
593
00:40:11,180 --> 00:40:16,380
There it was, all spelled out, E. Howard
Hunt admitting a plot.
594
00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:20,920
And it verified the information I'd
gotten from old Ron.
595
00:40:22,570 --> 00:40:27,070
Let's go beyond Kennedy and let's go to
Watergate. What were they there to find
596
00:40:27,070 --> 00:40:28,970
when they burglarized this place?
597
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:35,990
My father told me that there was a safe
that they were to get into, and that
598
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:41,370
safe was evidence linking President
Nixon to Operation 40.
599
00:40:41,590 --> 00:40:48,510
The information that
600
00:40:48,510 --> 00:40:49,530
was in that safe.
601
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,600
Would that have also led to Kennedy? It
very much would have led to Kennedy. Do
602
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,240
you have any idea why those notebooks
disappeared? What was in them that would
603
00:40:58,240 --> 00:40:59,660
cause them to be that sensitive?
604
00:41:01,620 --> 00:41:08,160
These guys were an intact, ready -to -go
group of assassins. They were sent
605
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:13,720
worldwide to eliminate foreign leaders,
diplomats, anybody that was unfriendly
606
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:15,040
to the United States government.
607
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,760
And at that time, many people believed
Kennedy.
608
00:41:18,510 --> 00:41:22,530
was unfavorable to the United States
government. Absolutely, absolutely. So
609
00:41:22,530 --> 00:41:26,850
they had to do was take this Operation
40 and send it to Dallas. And just point
610
00:41:26,850 --> 00:41:30,790
it in that direction. These guys were
queued up and ready to go. They were
611
00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:32,510
locked, loaded, and ready to rumble.
612
00:41:32,850 --> 00:41:34,810
The tapes added one more element.
613
00:41:35,010 --> 00:41:37,590
Another future president pulled into the
plot.
614
00:41:38,490 --> 00:41:39,750
First Richard Nixon.
615
00:41:40,510 --> 00:41:41,910
Then Gerald Ford.
616
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:44,530
Then George H .W. Bush.
617
00:41:45,570 --> 00:41:47,310
Now... LBK.
618
00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:54,580
He, in my opinion, had an almost
maniacal urge to
619
00:41:54,580 --> 00:41:55,580
become president.
620
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:02,600
He regarded JFK as an obstacle to
achieving that.
621
00:42:03,380 --> 00:42:06,840
Lyndon Baines Johnson, the vice
president who became president.
622
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,500
Now, this is a person that my dad
implicated in the plot directly.
623
00:42:13,450 --> 00:42:17,450
Looks like it took a dying man to
finally get to the truth.
624
00:42:17,870 --> 00:42:23,070
All these years later, people are still
afraid to tell what they know.
625
00:42:23,710 --> 00:42:29,210
Maybe that's why our leaders talk about
change while everything seems to stay
626
00:42:29,210 --> 00:42:30,210
the same.
627
00:42:30,270 --> 00:42:34,190
Maybe they know something we don't.
628
00:42:37,930 --> 00:42:40,690
This is where JFK was laid to rest.
629
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,400
The eternal flame marks his grave.
630
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:49,800
I came here to shoot this final
statement, but the Army wouldn't let me.
631
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:57,040
A guy named Ken Hawes from their public
affairs office told us, they don't like
632
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,420
our show and what we've got to say.
633
00:42:59,740 --> 00:43:02,380
So I got my congresswoman on the case.
634
00:43:02,660 --> 00:43:07,100
All she got was more runaround, more
bull, and no answers.
635
00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:12,240
Almost 50 years later, it's still the
same old military industrial complex.
636
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:18,140
The same power still calling the shots,
still threatening, still trying to keep
637
00:43:18,140 --> 00:43:19,140
us from the truth.
638
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:22,920
A lone gunman, a magic bullet. Wake up.
639
00:43:23,140 --> 00:43:26,620
I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is
Conspiracy Theory.
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