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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,340 Hidden power, secrets, cover -ups, corruption. 2 00:00:09,660 --> 00:00:11,940 You think you know the whole story? 3 00:00:12,220 --> 00:00:13,320 Think again. 4 00:00:15,380 --> 00:00:21,180 I've been governor, a Navy SEAL, a fighter. 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,860 I've heard things that'll blow your mind. And now I think it's time you get 6 00:00:27,860 --> 00:00:28,860 whole story. 7 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,960 Now, the government's real -life island of horror. 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,400 A secret bio -warfare lab. 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,580 A stone's throw from New York City and Boston. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,520 If it wasn't so close to the East Coast, they ought to nuke it. 11 00:00:41,980 --> 00:00:47,420 A U .S. facility created by former Nazi scientists doing animal research that 12 00:00:47,420 --> 00:00:48,880 could wipe out the human race. 13 00:00:50,500 --> 00:00:53,660 And evidence the damage is already being done. 14 00:00:54,170 --> 00:00:56,070 A mutated human body. 15 00:00:56,270 --> 00:00:57,270 That is correct. 16 00:00:57,390 --> 00:01:01,590 Jesse Ventura takes to the scene to expose the government's deadliest 17 00:01:04,110 --> 00:01:09,150 We got the Coast Guard behind us. And he discovers an even larger, more lethal 18 00:01:09,150 --> 00:01:10,150 conspiracy. 19 00:01:10,450 --> 00:01:15,710 Hundreds of germ labs in a ring of fire engulfing the nation. This is something 20 00:01:15,710 --> 00:01:19,970 that could affect someone from Maine to California, from Alaska to Florida. 21 00:01:20,270 --> 00:01:21,270 Mutant animals. 22 00:01:21,790 --> 00:01:22,790 Mutated humans. 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:28,800 A conspiracy of germs, disease, greed, and a target for terrorists. 24 00:01:29,180 --> 00:01:31,620 The range finder of Al -Qaeda. 25 00:01:31,980 --> 00:01:34,020 Biologically sitting duck. 26 00:01:34,460 --> 00:01:35,480 Plum Island. 27 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:37,820 And the bioterror conspiracy. 28 00:01:38,620 --> 00:01:42,580 I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory. 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,360 We got these guys paralleling us. 30 00:01:51,260 --> 00:01:54,000 We got the Coast Guard behind us. Now, what the hell? 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,000 Jesse Ventura is crashing through dangerous waters. 32 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:03,280 He's headed for Plum Island, a top -secret government germ lab off the 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:03,999 New York. 34 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,620 But Homeland Security has radioed word they want him stopped. 35 00:02:08,419 --> 00:02:11,039 Oh, he's paralleling us. There's no doubt about it. 36 00:02:11,980 --> 00:02:16,340 The governor has evidence that Plum Island is a bio -warfare time bomb. 37 00:02:18,260 --> 00:02:19,260 Only now. 38 00:02:19,660 --> 00:02:20,980 The clock is ticking for him. 39 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,200 I used to be a governor. What do they think I am, a terrorist? 40 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,780 It was a raid out of my Navy frogman days. 41 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:36,320 Only this time I didn't have a gun or a knife. 42 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,660 But from what I'd already found, they probably wouldn't be much help anyway. 43 00:02:44,020 --> 00:02:47,380 This all started when I got a call from a guy named Kenneth King. 44 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:53,520 He's an expert on biowarfare, the use of viruses and germs as weapons. 45 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,600 He said we're facing a major bioweapons threat and not from any terror group. 46 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:05,060 Since 9 -11, the government's been opening germ labs all over the country, 47 00:03:05,260 --> 00:03:11,500 supposedly developing drugs and vaccines to protect us against bioterror. But he 48 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:15,580 claimed these labs, our labs, could kill us all. 49 00:03:16,330 --> 00:03:20,510 There were about 200 high containment germ lab facilities in 2001. 50 00:03:21,170 --> 00:03:25,550 There are now at least 1 ,356 plus many more off the Brooks. 51 00:03:25,990 --> 00:03:30,390 You now have a kind of military academic industrial complex. 52 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:35,600 that is devoted to hyping the fear of bioterror so that they will continue to 53 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,860 get the funds. Let me ask you this. What do these places actually do? 54 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,600 A whole bunch of things, some of it very reckless. 55 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,040 We have a clear indication that accidents are occurring regularly. 56 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,320 They're being concealed from the public because the biodefense industry does not 57 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,560 want the American public to become concerned about their activity. 58 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,480 We know other countries and terror groups are ready to use bioweapons 59 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,480 us. 60 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,820 So you'd figure defense research would be a good thing. 61 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,840 Kenneth King warned that it's not. 62 00:04:07,950 --> 00:04:13,190 They are taking the approach that a terrorist might create some new 63 00:04:13,190 --> 00:04:17,070 we'll go ahead and do it ourselves to see if it's possible to do it. And then 64 00:04:17,070 --> 00:04:20,390 once we've done it, maybe we can dream up a defense against it. And what you're 65 00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:24,550 telling me is they're not taking the proper precautions at these facilities 66 00:04:24,550 --> 00:04:29,130 a risk could be run, that some of this bio stuff could get loose? 67 00:04:29,370 --> 00:04:33,130 They're refusing to acknowledge the possibility that this stuff could get 68 00:04:34,260 --> 00:04:39,000 These things seem out of control, and they're all a bunch of outlaw cowboys 69 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,000 and every facility. 70 00:04:40,140 --> 00:04:44,300 Yes, that's what I think. This is something that could affect someone from 71 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:46,680 to California, from Alaska to Florida. 72 00:04:46,940 --> 00:04:50,980 Absolutely. How much involvement in these labs does the Department of 73 00:04:50,980 --> 00:04:52,200 Security have now? 74 00:04:52,799 --> 00:04:57,300 Well, right now, they are trying to build a couple of the big labs 75 00:04:57,420 --> 00:05:01,220 and they were going to develop animal diseases that spread between animals and 76 00:05:01,220 --> 00:05:04,960 humans. Well, after they started getting some flack, they posted this little 77 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:10,220 diseases of interest list that took off most of the scary bioweapons agents. 78 00:05:10,460 --> 00:05:11,399 Are they lying? 79 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,120 I think so, yes. Really? Yes. The Department of Homeland Security is being 80 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,220 untruthful with the American public in what they're doing. That's what I think. 81 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,900 Kenneth King spelled out the conspiracy. 82 00:05:21,780 --> 00:05:25,900 Bioweapons research masquerading as animal research. 83 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,880 Germs and viruses that are supposedly restricted to animals crossing over to 84 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:38,000 humans. And the labs themselves letting all kinds of germs and bioweapons escape 85 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,180 into the air, into your neighborhood. 86 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,280 In your opinion, what's the worst case scenario we face? 87 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,440 The worst case scenario is that virus that they created could get out of the 88 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,180 and start that pandemic that we've all been worrying about. 89 00:05:55,540 --> 00:06:00,600 Sounds like we've dodged the bullet so far, but luck can't hold out forever. 90 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,200 We learned that on 9 -11. 91 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,340 If I choose to investigate this, where would you recommend I go? I certainly 92 00:06:08,340 --> 00:06:12,160 would suggest that you look into the facility at Plum Island. 93 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,440 Plum Island. 94 00:06:13,820 --> 00:06:19,700 It's about two miles off the northeast coast of Long Island, New York, 70 miles 95 00:06:19,700 --> 00:06:25,920 from New York City, across the Sound from Connecticut, not too far from 96 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:33,020 Since 1954, home of the Plum Island Animal Disease Center, started by the 97 00:06:33,020 --> 00:06:35,780 and now run by Homeland Security. 98 00:06:36,020 --> 00:06:37,960 And if Kenneth King is right. 99 00:06:38,570 --> 00:06:42,510 What's going on there will make your hair stand on end. 100 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:46,950 They always claim that they didn't do anything in the biological weapons area, 101 00:06:47,090 --> 00:06:51,970 although the Government Accountability Office indicated in a report in 2003 102 00:06:51,970 --> 00:06:55,870 they were doing a project for the Department of Defense to try to 103 00:06:55,870 --> 00:07:00,590 camelpox so that it would be like smallpox. I would call that bioweapons 104 00:07:00,590 --> 00:07:01,590 research. 105 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,340 Told me about this place called Plum Island, one of the most dangerous bio 106 00:07:11,340 --> 00:07:15,520 in the country. Yeah, get ready for this. They're moving it and they're 107 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,400 upgrading it to an even more dangerous level. They're moving it? Yeah. To 108 00:07:19,870 --> 00:07:22,370 To Kansas, the heart of cattle country. 109 00:07:22,590 --> 00:07:27,170 Are you kidding me? They're going to move a bio lab into the central part of 110 00:07:27,170 --> 00:07:30,590 country where the majority of our food supply comes from? Come on, guys. Aren't 111 00:07:30,590 --> 00:07:34,150 we overreacting a little bit here? Actually, no, Alex. There have been a 112 00:07:34,150 --> 00:07:39,130 of outbreaks. Can we positively say something has gotten off of this island? 113 00:07:39,590 --> 00:07:41,010 Well, there's this. 114 00:07:43,410 --> 00:07:45,510 What in the hell is that? 115 00:07:47,180 --> 00:07:48,560 What is that, a shaved dog? 116 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,060 They call it the Montauk Monster. 117 00:07:51,380 --> 00:07:55,380 It was found up washed along the shores of Long Island a couple of summers ago. 118 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,940 And apparently there are at least two others. 119 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,800 I don't know, maybe it's a raccoon? 120 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:04,320 That interests me enough right there. 121 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,640 Let's get focused. Let's go out and find out what goes on at Plum Island. 122 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,500 The investigation was underway. 123 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,620 June was following up on the Kansas lead. 124 00:08:16,250 --> 00:08:21,590 She'd see where the feds want to move the Plum Island lab and make it even 125 00:08:21,590 --> 00:08:22,590 of a danger. 126 00:08:22,830 --> 00:08:24,810 Alex and I were headed to the airport. 127 00:08:25,150 --> 00:08:27,110 So, uh, Montauk monster, huh? 128 00:08:27,350 --> 00:08:31,650 I've never seen anything ever that looked like that thing that we saw in 129 00:08:31,650 --> 00:08:33,929 picture. We were going to New York. 130 00:08:34,169 --> 00:08:38,610 He'd hit the beach and find out more about this Montauk monster. 131 00:08:39,270 --> 00:08:44,710 Me? I knew that eventually I'd be making an assault on Plum Island. 132 00:08:46,570 --> 00:08:51,150 Coming up, the Nazi scientist behind the Plum Island experiments. 133 00:08:51,850 --> 00:08:54,310 Trump was the godfather of Plum Island. 134 00:08:54,510 --> 00:08:56,970 Then, monsters and mutants. 135 00:08:57,390 --> 00:09:01,250 Plum Island is blamed for bizarre creatures washing up on shore. 136 00:09:02,270 --> 00:09:04,990 Human body. Human body with elongated fingers. 137 00:09:05,470 --> 00:09:11,670 And later, Jesse Ventura goes Navy SEAL on the place and storms Plum Island by 138 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:13,590 sea. SEALs don't get stopped. 139 00:09:27,180 --> 00:09:30,360 The mysterious Plum Island off the coast of Long Island, New York. 140 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,080 The site of a government laboratory where scientists are rumored to be 141 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,740 the Geneva Conventions by creating biological weapons. 142 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,340 Is this a hothouse for catastrophe? 143 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,220 Jesse Ventura's team spreads out to find the truth. 144 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,600 I was driving across Long Island to get some background on the place. 145 00:09:52,740 --> 00:09:54,940 Alex Piper was already on the beach. 146 00:09:55,450 --> 00:09:59,890 following up on reports that some weird animal made it from Plum Island to the 147 00:09:59,890 --> 00:10:00,890 mainland. 148 00:10:03,010 --> 00:10:08,550 The Montauk monster is a creature that washed up on this beach in July of 2008, 149 00:10:08,770 --> 00:10:15,670 and more monsters have washed up. Now, when you say monster, what are we 150 00:10:15,670 --> 00:10:16,249 about here? 151 00:10:16,250 --> 00:10:17,290 What I really mean is creature. 152 00:10:17,970 --> 00:10:22,990 It's a creature that scientists cannot explain exactly what species it is. 153 00:10:23,530 --> 00:10:26,670 It's something that I've never seen before, and I don't think the world's 154 00:10:26,670 --> 00:10:27,670 seen before either. 155 00:10:30,950 --> 00:10:35,550 Nick Cuttenaro is a local. He reported on the first creature sighting on his 156 00:10:35,550 --> 00:10:39,890 website. When a second one washed up, he was called to the scene. 157 00:10:40,590 --> 00:10:44,870 The first monster was found right here in Montauk, right on the beach. On this 158 00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:45,870 beach right here. That is correct. 159 00:10:48,870 --> 00:10:50,950 People thought it was a raccoon. 160 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,200 It was a turtle without a shell, or it was an animal that may have been 161 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,200 crossbred. 162 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:03,260 Crossbred. Two animals in a lab bred together to be something completely new. 163 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,480 That is correct. 164 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,900 I have pictures and video clips. I've seen it with my own eyes more than once. 165 00:11:19,470 --> 00:11:24,790 While Alex was learning more about the Montauk Monster, I was a few miles 166 00:11:24,790 --> 00:11:29,970 with Carl Grossman. He's a journalist and professor, the expert on the history 167 00:11:29,970 --> 00:11:30,970 of Plum Island. 168 00:11:33,290 --> 00:11:36,630 When did Plum Island become what it is today? 169 00:11:37,050 --> 00:11:43,870 After World War II, there was a Nazi scientist, a guy named Eric Traub, 170 00:11:43,970 --> 00:11:47,850 and he figured he would set up off the coast of Long Island. 171 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:53,740 This sort of germ warfare lab he ran during the war to develop insects, ticks 172 00:11:53,740 --> 00:11:56,080 and so forth for biological warfare. 173 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:02,360 In Germany, Eric Traub worked for Heinrich Himmler, who ran Hitler's 174 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:08,600 SS. It was Traub's idea to inject animal diseases into ticks, then release the 175 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,260 ticks as an army of bioweapons. 176 00:12:14,190 --> 00:12:19,710 Traub was brought to the States after the war under Operation Paperclip, a U 177 00:12:19,710 --> 00:12:22,450 government program that recruited Nazi scientists. 178 00:12:23,110 --> 00:12:28,590 We know Paperclip brought over rocket experts like Wernher von Braun, who 179 00:12:28,590 --> 00:12:29,590 start NASA. 180 00:12:30,090 --> 00:12:33,670 The Dr. Mengele types don't get so much attention. 181 00:12:34,290 --> 00:12:40,590 So, Erich Traub comes from Nazi Germany, and so, in essence, what is he, the 182 00:12:40,590 --> 00:12:42,070 godfather of Plum Island? 183 00:12:42,590 --> 00:12:47,630 It was a Cold War situation, and we figured that we better grab them before 184 00:12:47,630 --> 00:12:51,850 Soviets do. Trout was the godfather of Plum Island. 185 00:12:53,610 --> 00:12:56,490 Back on the beach, Alex was seeing a pattern. 186 00:12:56,710 --> 00:12:59,590 One monster is weird enough, but two? 187 00:13:00,750 --> 00:13:05,070 So when you come upon the second monster, what's going through your mind? 188 00:13:05,330 --> 00:13:07,410 This was something that I've never seen before. 189 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,360 Can you pick up the head again? 190 00:13:09,580 --> 00:13:14,620 That's really weird. The creature 191 00:13:14,620 --> 00:13:21,520 was bloated, leathery, it had patches of hair, and it 192 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,420 smelled like a mix of a low tide and rotten garbage. And claws. 193 00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:27,480 Claws. And matchstick -like fingers. 194 00:13:27,700 --> 00:13:30,080 It almost resembled somewhat of a chicken claw. 195 00:13:31,260 --> 00:13:32,260 It's really odd. 196 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:41,800 With the proximity of Plum Island being close to Montauk and this beach right 197 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,200 here, what I think and what a lot of other people think is perhaps it came 198 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,200 Plum Island. 199 00:13:50,940 --> 00:13:52,200 Ah, totally weird. 200 00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:57,020 Experts say the turbulent tides and currents make it very possible the 201 00:13:57,020 --> 00:13:58,420 came from Plum Island. 202 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:02,100 It's also possible that something escaped from the lab. 203 00:14:02,890 --> 00:14:07,170 The feds haven't had the best of luck keeping a lid on their nasty little 204 00:14:07,170 --> 00:14:08,170 secret. 205 00:14:08,530 --> 00:14:10,410 How is the security there? 206 00:14:10,730 --> 00:14:14,650 Is it as secure as it should be for something as sensitive as this? 207 00:14:14,870 --> 00:14:19,470 Absolutely not. Plum Island is a sitting duck. The ferry to Connecticut goes 208 00:14:19,470 --> 00:14:21,750 right past it. It's totally exposed. 209 00:14:22,130 --> 00:14:27,190 I mean, and I'm not giving ideas to anybody because, in fact, folks with 210 00:14:27,190 --> 00:14:31,670 connections to al -Qaeda have been found with information dossier. 211 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,280 on Plum Island. 212 00:14:33,620 --> 00:14:36,080 Carl Grossman wasn't exaggerating. 213 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:41,720 Haifia Siddiqui is a Pakistani scientist who was named one of the seven most 214 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,460 wanted Al -Qaeda fugitives. 215 00:14:43,860 --> 00:14:45,860 Lady Al -Qaeda, they called her. 216 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:51,660 When she was captured in 2008, she was carrying handwritten documents about a, 217 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:57,880 quote, mass casualty attack and a list of targets, including Plum Island. 218 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:06,100 In the range finder of Al -Qaeda, if they want to hit Rome Island, 219 00:15:06,340 --> 00:15:12,180 there is utterly not a problem. I mean, it just sits there. It's not secluded. 220 00:15:12,180 --> 00:15:18,020 It's right there on the coastline. And all some Al -Qaeda characters have to do 221 00:15:18,020 --> 00:15:23,440 is to rent a Boston Whaler and one of these rockets. 222 00:15:23,860 --> 00:15:27,000 You would have a disaster. 223 00:15:30,030 --> 00:15:32,310 What type of accidents have you heard about? 224 00:15:32,570 --> 00:15:38,210 The most serious accident was in 1978 when there was some sort of screw -up 225 00:15:38,210 --> 00:15:42,650 the negative pressure system at the main laboratory and some foot -and -mouth 226 00:15:42,650 --> 00:15:44,070 disease virus just came out. 227 00:15:45,570 --> 00:15:47,670 Those are only a few of the problems. 228 00:15:48,290 --> 00:15:53,990 There have been virus outbreaks, infected workers, contaminated raw 229 00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:55,670 flushed into Long Island Sound. 230 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:01,780 Even after 9 -11, after Homeland Security took over, there were outbreaks 231 00:16:01,780 --> 00:16:02,780 foot and mouth. 232 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,380 But the scariest thing to escape is this tiny little tick. 233 00:16:07,580 --> 00:16:12,380 The insect Eric Traub worked with may be the most fierce weapon of all. 234 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:24,080 Experiments done with ticks raises the specter that that might be the source. 235 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,600 A Lyme disease, a biological warfare experiment done by former Nazi 236 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:35,140 that got out of control. Do you believe it is? We wanted to see the records in 237 00:16:35,140 --> 00:16:37,480 connection to these tick experiments. 238 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:38,760 And what did you discover? 239 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,620 The claim was we have no records. 240 00:16:41,420 --> 00:16:42,420 What? 241 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:49,240 I mean, government always has records. Government records 242 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,000 everything they do. 243 00:16:51,580 --> 00:16:56,580 That's standard operating procedure. And the thing that I'm learning is that 244 00:16:56,580 --> 00:17:01,840 whenever you see standard operating procedures violated, that is your 245 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,180 sign that there's a conspiracy going on. 246 00:17:09,940 --> 00:17:14,940 This lab sounds like a recipe for disaster. And in my experience, the 247 00:17:14,940 --> 00:17:16,819 government's not going to level with us. 248 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,460 That's why I wasn't too surprised by the call from Alex. 249 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,700 Hi, Alex. What do you got? Forget about the Montauk monster. 250 00:17:24,060 --> 00:17:30,220 They found a human body, a mutated human body on Plum Island. What in the hell? 251 00:17:32,300 --> 00:17:36,200 Coming up, human experiments gone horribly wrong. 252 00:17:36,420 --> 00:17:39,780 When they found him, they found five holes drilled in his head. 253 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Then, the governor meets a victim of a Plum Island biowarfare virus. 254 00:17:45,580 --> 00:17:48,500 In your opinion, what should be done with Plum Island? 255 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,480 If it wasn't so close to the East Coast, they ought to nuke it. 256 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:57,180 And later, Jesse Ventura storms the shores of Plum Island to find out what 257 00:17:57,180 --> 00:17:58,200 really goes on. 258 00:18:10,060 --> 00:18:14,580 Jesse Ventura is headed across Long Island Sound toward Lyme, Connecticut. 259 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,400 This is the town that gave name to Lyme disease, the debilitating chronic 260 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,140 ailment spread by tick bites. 261 00:18:21,580 --> 00:18:26,780 Some say Lyme disease was created on an escape from nearby Plum Island. 262 00:18:27,020 --> 00:18:29,140 But that's not the only thing that's escaped. 263 00:18:30,300 --> 00:18:32,980 Alex Piper has evidence of human experiments. 264 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,320 A body found in early 2010 on a Plum Island beach. 265 00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:42,280 Human body. Human body with elongated fingers. 266 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,360 A mutated human body. 267 00:18:44,580 --> 00:18:45,539 That is correct. 268 00:18:45,540 --> 00:18:48,420 Well, you're saying the research is not just being conducted on animals, but 269 00:18:48,420 --> 00:18:53,360 possibly on humans as well. Well, I would say that it leads you in a 270 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:57,740 that you really don't want to go down when thinking about what's really going 271 00:18:57,740 --> 00:18:58,740 on. 272 00:18:59,180 --> 00:19:02,540 Alex headed straight to Suffolk County Police Headquarters. 273 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:03,800 And guess what? 274 00:19:04,330 --> 00:19:09,590 The cops refused to comment on the so -called Montauk monsters, and they 275 00:19:09,590 --> 00:19:11,790 out of an interview about the mutant man. 276 00:19:13,650 --> 00:19:17,390 Trying to get some more information about that dead body that was found on 277 00:19:17,390 --> 00:19:20,930 Island not too long ago. Sorry, we can't help you. So, even though yesterday 278 00:19:20,930 --> 00:19:24,670 they agreed to speak with us, today they don't want to talk to us on camera. 279 00:19:24,870 --> 00:19:25,870 That's correct. 280 00:19:26,430 --> 00:19:31,350 What are they trying to hide? I was getting an idea after I arrived in Lyme 281 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:32,810 met up with Randy Sykes. 282 00:19:33,340 --> 00:19:36,760 He came down with Lyme disease about 15 years ago. 283 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:43,840 Then he began investigating and found evidence it was created by the 284 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,180 What has Lyme disease done to you? 285 00:19:48,300 --> 00:19:51,580 Destroyed me. I used to run two and a half miles a day. I'd hit the police gym 286 00:19:51,580 --> 00:19:52,880 every morning on the way into work. 287 00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:54,880 And bench pressing, weight lifting. 288 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:58,520 And I got to the point where I couldn't walk three -tenths of a mile before I 289 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,040 just collapsed and gave up. I forgot how to add. Couldn't add 13 and 13 on 290 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,320 paper. It'll attack any part of your body. 291 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,780 It's like standing by the river and throwing in a handful of confetti. When 292 00:20:09,780 --> 00:20:13,320 hits the river, it just fans out. It goes through your veins, and wherever it 293 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,180 ends up, liver damage. It's incredible. 294 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:18,440 You believe Lyme disease was created, correct? 295 00:20:18,860 --> 00:20:22,400 We've found so many things, like, for instance, the strain is patented by the 296 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:26,300 Department of Defense. I have the patent here for it. Let's get down to layman's 297 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:30,440 terms. This is our government doing biological warfare? 298 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,960 I would say. 299 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,200 Plum Island. 300 00:20:33,870 --> 00:20:36,330 Is that where you believe all this takes place? 301 00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:38,850 I have papers where they infected ticks. 302 00:20:39,070 --> 00:20:44,250 They were infecting ticks with all types of viruses. And for what purpose would 303 00:20:44,250 --> 00:20:45,950 they say that they were doing that? 304 00:20:46,270 --> 00:20:49,890 Well, it's, you know, like a military -type installation, and they don't 305 00:20:49,890 --> 00:20:54,130 do things to help people. Right. Anything the military is involved with 306 00:20:54,130 --> 00:20:55,049 and destruction. 307 00:20:55,050 --> 00:20:56,050 Yeah. 308 00:20:56,950 --> 00:21:01,070 Randy, they're doing these experiments on Plum Island. You pretty much proved 309 00:21:01,070 --> 00:21:02,550 that with your documentation. 310 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,560 How would the infected tick get off the island? A few months out of the year, 311 00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:09,420 the current is blowing in towards shore. 312 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,000 But I read they did outdoor experiments, infecting the ticks, leaving them 313 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,999 outdoors. 314 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,540 And, you know, birds fly back to shore. 315 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,480 Migration's going throughout the country, different areas. 316 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:28,240 One tick, one flock of birds flying from Plum Island to the mainland, can carry 317 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,340 an army of these natural warriors. 318 00:21:31,070 --> 00:21:35,910 And if there's any question that Lyme disease is a weapon, it turns out that 319 00:21:35,910 --> 00:21:42,550 Randy Sykes found the smoking gun. A document from 2005 in which the feds 320 00:21:42,550 --> 00:21:48,250 list the bioterror agents they were working on at Plum Island and other 321 00:21:48,670 --> 00:21:52,710 Anthrax, teleremia, cholera, desert fever, Lyme disease. 322 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,060 I mean, they're all talking about biowarfare and Lyme's listed every time. 323 00:21:57,060 --> 00:21:58,600 they're the ones saying it's biowarfare. 324 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:05,560 So this is clearly bioterrorism or biowarfare. And it seems we're using our 325 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,760 people as guinea pigs. 326 00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:10,860 Randy, in your opinion, what should be done with Plum Island? 327 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,800 If it wasn't so close to the East Coast, they ought to nuke it. 328 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,380 Randy Sykes' information put everything into perspective. 329 00:22:20,170 --> 00:22:26,430 If infected ticks could cripple 3 million people, imagine what else is out 330 00:22:26,430 --> 00:22:29,290 there. Yeah. Hey, Governor, it's Alex. 331 00:22:29,490 --> 00:22:33,330 I'm at the Suffolk County Police Department. The Homicide Squad are 332 00:22:33,330 --> 00:22:37,910 investigating an unidentified male body that was washed ashore on the southwest 333 00:22:37,910 --> 00:22:43,370 beach area of Plum Island. A white male, approximately 6 to 6 foot 2 inches 334 00:22:43,370 --> 00:22:47,470 tall, with a large build and very long fingers. 335 00:22:48,110 --> 00:22:49,910 They gave me a news release. The party line. 336 00:22:50,190 --> 00:22:54,250 Yeah, well, after I read that, I had a lot more questions. So I cornered one of 337 00:22:54,250 --> 00:22:55,890 the officers, and he gave me some answers. 338 00:22:56,110 --> 00:22:59,330 They found him in the middle of January, but he was wearing nothing but a short 339 00:22:59,330 --> 00:23:00,550 -sleeved shirt and cargo pants. 340 00:23:00,810 --> 00:23:04,510 The officer did tell me that when they found the body, there were five holes 341 00:23:04,510 --> 00:23:05,810 drilled in his head. 342 00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:09,990 They think it was the product of a neurosurgery. Man, what are they doing 343 00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:14,670 there? He had no identification, nothing that would identify him. 344 00:23:15,050 --> 00:23:20,830 The mutant man on Plum Island, that case remains open and unsolved. 345 00:23:22,370 --> 00:23:23,370 Governor, it's me. 346 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:24,570 I'm in Kansas. 347 00:23:24,730 --> 00:23:28,610 I'm at the site where they want to build this place, the National Bio and Agro 348 00:23:28,610 --> 00:23:31,990 -Defense Facility. They're planning on building it right in the middle of the 349 00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:36,370 university. And it's in the middle of cattle country. You can see it's 350 00:23:36,370 --> 00:23:37,590 just by standing here. 351 00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:43,320 They're serious about moving a top -secret bio -warfare lab into the middle 352 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,640 the nation's food supply? 353 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:50,060 I need to get out to that island and dig up those secrets that no one wants us 354 00:23:50,060 --> 00:23:51,060 to know about. 355 00:23:52,940 --> 00:23:58,620 Coming up, plans to move the Plum Island terror target put the entire country in 356 00:23:58,620 --> 00:24:02,020 danger. Almost any outbreak would be a worst -case scenario. 357 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,040 The governor leads the Coast Guard on a wild chase to Plum Island. 358 00:24:07,300 --> 00:24:09,880 What the hell? I used to be a governor. 359 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:15,060 And later, he heads to Washington and surprises the powers behind the Plum 360 00:24:15,060 --> 00:24:16,060 Island mystery. 361 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:21,760 Homeland security rules by threat and rules by intimidation. 362 00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:36,680 Jesse Ventura is at the marina in Orient Point, New York. 363 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,740 Yards away is the Homeland Security Ferry Terminal for workers at Plum 364 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:46,060 The governor and Alex Piper have chartered their own boat to the 365 00:24:46,060 --> 00:24:47,540 animal research lab. 366 00:24:48,580 --> 00:24:53,960 Their navigator is Jim McCoy. He worked on Plum Island until he blew the whistle 367 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,940 on dangerous sloppy practices that could lead to bio -warfare outbreaks and mass 368 00:24:58,940 --> 00:25:01,420 casualties. He lost his job. 369 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,960 He won the lawsuit. 370 00:25:03,220 --> 00:25:08,220 I got a boat with a captain who's going to take us over. So you ready to go for 371 00:25:08,220 --> 00:25:10,340 a boat trip? Let's go. Let's go take a look at this place. 372 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,160 Alex and I were ready to shove off on a boat called the Coyote. 373 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,240 Captain Ron. 374 00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:30,240 How are you? Good, good. Well, as an old Navy man requesting permission to come 375 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,240 aboard. 376 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,340 It was all systems go. 377 00:25:34,660 --> 00:25:38,620 But all of a sudden, Captain Ron lost his sea legs. 378 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,820 He refused to take us to Plum Island. 379 00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:51,360 And guess what? None of the other captains would take us 380 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:55,460 either. Homeland Security had laid down the law. 381 00:25:56,970 --> 00:26:01,230 So it's clear that Homeland Security operates under fear and intimidation. 382 00:26:01,230 --> 00:26:04,790 could literally strip them of their license for driving a boat out in what's 383 00:26:04,790 --> 00:26:07,510 open water. You could read it and abuse scared to death. 384 00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:14,510 While Alex and I were figuring our next move, June had found her connection in 385 00:26:14,510 --> 00:26:15,570 Manhattan, Kansas. 386 00:26:16,110 --> 00:26:21,590 That's where they want to move the Plum Island lab and make it bigger and more 387 00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:22,590 dangerous. 388 00:26:23,030 --> 00:26:24,490 Professor Tom Manny. 389 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:31,200 is leading the fight to stop it. I think it's a bad idea to move 390 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,400 it off of Plum Island or anywhere onto the mainland because of the foot and 391 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,860 mouth disease, because it is such a deadly virus. 392 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:46,160 Deadly not in the sense that it kills, but in the sense that it takes so few 393 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,640 virus particles to infect animals. 394 00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:50,960 Consequences of an infection. 395 00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:56,360 are just horrendous for the whole economy because it immediately shuts 396 00:26:56,360 --> 00:27:00,140 export of beef to the rest of the world. 397 00:27:01,820 --> 00:27:07,140 The same thing happened in England in 2001. The first effect is a quarantine, 398 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,740 something like three to five mile radius. 399 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,940 So the effects would be catastrophic. 400 00:27:13,420 --> 00:27:14,420 They would be. 401 00:27:20,220 --> 00:27:25,160 Everybody you talk to around here sets this place up like it's the incubator 402 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,700 germ warfare, biological warfare. 403 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,800 I mean, this is ground zero. 404 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,380 The fact that they won't even take you out on the boat says everything that you 405 00:27:33,380 --> 00:27:34,319 need to know. Yep. 406 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,460 Why would they care? If there wasn't something diabolical out there, they 407 00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:39,460 wouldn't care. 408 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,920 We are in the heart of Tornado Valley, aren't we? We are. I haven't heard them 409 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:58,460 provide any data that they've designed this to have those door seals withstand 410 00:27:58,460 --> 00:28:00,660 the pressure drop of a tornado. 411 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:07,040 And some of the releases at Plum Island have been from the failure of those door 412 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,240 gaskets. So let's say there was an outbreak of foot and mouth. 413 00:28:11,580 --> 00:28:15,480 It could easily be transported to the rest of the country, couldn't it? 414 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:21,980 Almost any outbreak would be a worst case scenario because as soon as it was 415 00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:27,460 detected, which could be a week or two, then this whole area, three, five miles, 416 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,240 whatever they decide, would be quarantined. The animals would be 417 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,060 I've heard the number of 400 ,000 in the whole county area. 418 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,240 You can take us to Plum Island? 419 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,020 Okay, thank you. Yeah, we'll be right there. 420 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,940 Looks like we found a captain that'll take us to Plum Island. 421 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,540 Let's go for it. All right, get out of here before he changes his mind. 422 00:28:56,060 --> 00:28:57,220 He may yet anyway. 423 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,060 We had to call another marina to get a captain to take us to Plum Island. 424 00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:10,200 But when his boat came into view, we knew he was the man for the job. 425 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,380 Now it was just a matter of getting out of the harbor. 426 00:29:19,540 --> 00:29:22,240 Oh, he's paralleling us, there's no doubt about it. 427 00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:28,960 Coming up, Jesse Ventura races to Plum Island with the Coast Guard in a hot 428 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,380 pursuit. What the hell? What do they think I am, a terrorist? 429 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,840 Then, a Plum Island veteran revisits the scene of the horrors. 430 00:29:37,870 --> 00:29:41,950 The people were going around putting duct tape around the outside doors on 431 00:29:41,950 --> 00:29:43,250 biocontainment area. 432 00:29:43,450 --> 00:29:45,650 But duct tape doesn't stop viruses. 433 00:29:46,190 --> 00:29:52,350 And later, Mr. Ventura goes to Washington to hunt down Plum Island's 434 00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:57,210 You're being funny with me now, doctor. Would I dare to be funny with you? 435 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,520 The Coast Guard is hot on the tail of Jesse Ventura as he attempts to reach 436 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,520 Island. 437 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,140 Word is out that he's accompanied by Jim McCoy, a Plum Island worker who was 438 00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:23,320 fired after he blew the whistle on dangerous safety violations. 439 00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:29,240 Oh, yeah, this Coast Guard boat's definitely following us. 440 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,920 Look at, yeah. 441 00:30:32,740 --> 00:30:37,460 We got the Coast Guard behind us. We got these guys. What the hell? I used to be 442 00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:39,980 a governor. What do they think I am, a terrorist? 443 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,560 The Coast Guard boat stayed in sight the entire time, but they didn't stop us. 444 00:30:47,540 --> 00:30:51,420 Before we knew it, we were at Plum Island. 445 00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:57,020 What was your job here? 446 00:30:57,260 --> 00:31:01,900 My job was in the bio level three containment laboratory. 447 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,500 You got fired. 448 00:31:03,980 --> 00:31:04,980 Yes, I did. 449 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,980 What did you do to get fired? I had interrupted a meeting in the 450 00:31:09,980 --> 00:31:14,840 building that was attended by the then acting director for Homeland Security, 451 00:31:15,140 --> 00:31:16,520 Senator Clinton's New York. 452 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:23,320 manager, as well as other representatives, aides and environmental 453 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,640 And you interrupted their meeting. And what did you do? I asked to speak 454 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:33,740 I had safety issues that I've observed on Plum Island and I wanted to discuss 455 00:31:33,740 --> 00:31:39,580 them with them. There was no level of security monitoring. 456 00:31:40,750 --> 00:31:43,270 inside the biocontainment area. 457 00:31:43,530 --> 00:31:46,850 So you brought these facts up and you were fired over it? 458 00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:48,190 Yes, sir. 459 00:31:48,430 --> 00:31:53,630 I felt the safety of the people that worked there, for the people who live in 460 00:31:53,630 --> 00:31:58,950 this community, and for our country, that these things had to be told, even 461 00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:59,950 it meant my job. 462 00:32:00,990 --> 00:32:07,810 Jim McCoy knew where all the bodies were buried and where bodies and bioweapons. 463 00:32:08,380 --> 00:32:09,480 may have escaped. 464 00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:11,820 What are those buildings right there? 465 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,440 They used to keep their livestock in pens there. 466 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,880 And there was talk when I worked at the lab that a cow that had been injected 467 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,560 with the virus got out and got into the pen with all the other cows. 468 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,220 And they had to kill all the cows. 469 00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:34,700 The long building with all the stacks sticking up, that is the biocontainment 470 00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:38,960 laboratory. In the event of a power failure to the island, the generators 471 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,420 kick on. And that is something that didn't happen in December of 2002. 472 00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:47,880 There was a period of four hours that they lost power from the mainland. 473 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:53,280 During this time, they had no ventilation to the biocontainment area 474 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,220 that the viruses would be kept in a negative pressure. 475 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,480 Pretty dangerous. 476 00:32:57,620 --> 00:33:02,820 Yes. The people were going around putting duct tape around the outside 477 00:33:02,820 --> 00:33:08,940 the biocontainment area and trying to contain whatever might be getting out 478 00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:11,760 the atmosphere. But duct tape doesn't stop viruses. 479 00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:18,680 Could this be a place where biological weapons could be being built? 480 00:33:19,180 --> 00:33:21,020 It's unknown what they're developing. 481 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,740 We were just digging in when we noticed we had company. 482 00:33:33,060 --> 00:33:34,060 See it? 483 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,540 Right over there. He's followed us all the way around the island now. 484 00:33:38,620 --> 00:33:40,620 We were as close as we could get. 485 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,540 The Coast Guard was on our tail again. 486 00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:47,520 And security vehicles were shadowing us on the island. 487 00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:50,200 We had to turn back. 488 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,960 You know, I find it very, very interesting. 489 00:33:53,620 --> 00:33:55,080 I'm a former governor. 490 00:33:55,610 --> 00:34:01,910 A former mayor, a former Navy SEAL with a top -secret security clearance, yet I 491 00:34:01,910 --> 00:34:07,250 can't go on Plum Island. I get the Coast Guard tailing me. I get vehicles along 492 00:34:07,250 --> 00:34:09,350 the shore watching our every move. 493 00:34:10,190 --> 00:34:14,350 Where I come from, if you're the one paying the money, that makes you the 494 00:34:14,650 --> 00:34:17,449 How come we the people aren't the boss anymore? 495 00:34:18,699 --> 00:34:23,820 We're the one paying the salaries of these people, and yet they deprive us of 496 00:34:23,820 --> 00:34:26,360 knowing what they do on this island. 497 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,320 They want to get heavy. I can give as good as I get. 498 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,620 Next stop, Washington, D .C. I paid a visit to Congressman Tim Bishop. 499 00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:44,900 If there's anyone who'd know what's going on at Plum Island, this is the 500 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,400 Plum Island's in his district. 501 00:34:47,949 --> 00:34:52,630 He was a little surprised to see me, but at least he had the guts to talk to me. 502 00:34:53,210 --> 00:34:55,070 Not like some of these guys. 503 00:34:55,610 --> 00:35:00,230 That's a strange place out there, Plum Island. I got chased around by the Coast 504 00:35:00,230 --> 00:35:03,050 Guard. I got chased around and shadowed by Homeland Security. 505 00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:06,110 Does that island concern you? Well... 506 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,280 I think there was a period of time where I was very concerned because I felt 507 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,080 that there was not a sufficient investment in securing the island. And 508 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,220 of what you encountered, I think, was an increased level of security for the 509 00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:21,840 island. None of the fishing boats would take us out there. 510 00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:27,530 Because of fear of retribution from Homeland Security, which I found 511 00:35:27,690 --> 00:35:34,150 That Homeland Security rules by threats and rules by intimidation. I have to 512 00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:38,490 tell you, I have never heard any suggestion of threat or intimidation. I 513 00:35:38,490 --> 00:35:39,189 have not. 514 00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:41,190 Well, I'm giving you your first one then. 515 00:35:41,810 --> 00:35:46,510 What concerned me the most about it was when I read the history of it. And I saw 516 00:35:46,510 --> 00:35:50,070 who the godfather is of Plum Island, Eric Traub. 517 00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:55,200 who was a Nazi right under Himmler, that many people think probably should have 518 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,540 stood trial at Nuremberg. But his expertise is attempting to create 519 00:35:59,540 --> 00:36:02,040 warfare using ticks and mosquitoes. 520 00:36:02,970 --> 00:36:07,570 To spread them. That doesn't bother you that this guy came there? If that was 521 00:36:07,570 --> 00:36:10,850 what was going on there, if I was convinced that that was what was going 522 00:36:10,850 --> 00:36:14,690 there, that would bother me. But I don't believe that that's what's going on 523 00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:19,150 there. So you're comfortable and don't believe in the conspiracy that Lyme 524 00:36:19,150 --> 00:36:23,150 disease originated there because it started in Lyme, Connecticut, which is 525 00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:24,149 across the water? 526 00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:27,850 I do not accept that. You don't accept that? I do not. What accomplishments 527 00:36:27,850 --> 00:36:28,850 they got out of that? 528 00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:31,030 Well, they have... 529 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,460 conducted research that has... What has been achieved? 530 00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:36,820 I've heard nothing. 531 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,480 Are you angry that there's the possibility it could move to Kansas? 532 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,620 I wouldn't use the word angry. I am troubled by that. 533 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:48,940 And in fact, I have been working to try to keep the facility open. 534 00:36:49,770 --> 00:36:53,790 On Plum Island. Aren't you concerned, though, that if something could go wrong 535 00:36:53,790 --> 00:37:00,010 at this place and what the results of it could be? Plum Island is so -called 536 00:37:00,010 --> 00:37:04,850 zoonotic diseases are not studied at Plum Island. Diseases that are animal 537 00:37:04,850 --> 00:37:08,990 -borne that can spread to humans. The only diseases that are studied at Plum 538 00:37:08,990 --> 00:37:12,390 Island are animal -borne diseases that do not spread. And you know this 539 00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:13,390 absolutely? 540 00:37:13,770 --> 00:37:15,570 I accept what I've been told. 541 00:37:15,930 --> 00:37:16,930 Okay. 542 00:37:20,970 --> 00:37:26,330 I guess that's the difference between him and me. I don't just accept what 543 00:37:26,330 --> 00:37:27,330 been told. 544 00:37:28,090 --> 00:37:30,890 There was someone else I wanted to find anyway. 545 00:37:31,230 --> 00:37:33,890 A guy who knows Plum Island firsthand. 546 00:37:34,670 --> 00:37:39,230 The guy who tells people like Congressman Bishop things they accept. 547 00:37:39,810 --> 00:37:45,590 I staked him out where he works. And sure enough, there he was. 548 00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:50,030 Dr. Breeze, I was not expecting to see you here. 549 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,620 Coming up, the truth revealed. 550 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,240 The doctor in charge of the Plum Island lab admits humans are being infected 551 00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:00,480 with deadly viruses. 552 00:38:00,820 --> 00:38:04,760 Everybody that works in the laboratory will actually inhale virus that's in the 553 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,940 air. Some of the infections also infect people. 554 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,560 I was not expecting to see you here. 555 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:25,580 Jesse Ventura's investigation of the Plum Island conspiracy has taken him to 556 00:38:25,580 --> 00:38:28,400 Washington, D .C. He's just cornered a key player. 557 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,340 A man who knows Plum Island's secrets. 558 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,700 Dr. Breeze, you were in charge of Plum Island, is that correct? 559 00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,380 Uh, that's right. Roger Breeze. 560 00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:45,500 Dr. Roger Breeze. In the 1990s, he ran the lab dreamed up by Nazi scientist 561 00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:46,520 Eric Traub. 562 00:38:47,130 --> 00:38:51,390 Plum Island had some of its biggest security breaches under his watch. 563 00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:56,890 Now that Homeland Security has taken over, he's one of the overlords, a chief 564 00:38:56,890 --> 00:38:59,710 scientist in the Biological Weapons Program. 565 00:39:00,290 --> 00:39:04,630 Why is Plum Island so secretive? It isn't secretive at all. 566 00:39:05,050 --> 00:39:09,630 Well, I tried to go there and I was put under surveillance by Homeland Security. 567 00:39:10,050 --> 00:39:15,530 I was tailed by the Coast Guard. And I'm a former governor, a mayor, a Navy SEAL 568 00:39:15,530 --> 00:39:19,170 with a top secret security clearance. Why would they behave that way? 569 00:39:19,450 --> 00:39:25,930 I think it's because it's really completely misguided approach to the 570 00:39:26,210 --> 00:39:30,590 Okay, to your knowledge, do we do biological warfare at Plum Island? 571 00:39:30,810 --> 00:39:31,810 No. No. 572 00:39:31,950 --> 00:39:36,630 No, not at all. I mean, what concerns me is the history of Plum Island, the 573 00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:42,630 creator of Plum Island, Eric Traub. He was a Nazi. His expertise was biological 574 00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:45,650 warfare, infecting mosquitoes and wood ticks. 575 00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:51,870 He created it. I actually don't know anything about Eric Traub. So the 576 00:39:51,870 --> 00:39:55,950 experiments they do there, is it strictly on animals? 577 00:39:57,170 --> 00:40:03,350 It's on animals, yes. Some of the infections also infect people. 578 00:40:04,850 --> 00:40:06,230 Isn't that interesting? 579 00:40:06,810 --> 00:40:12,230 Seems the congressman who accepts what he's told was told a bunch of BS. 580 00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:16,890 The only diseases that are studied at Plum Island are animal -borne diseases 581 00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:18,290 that do not spread to humans. 582 00:40:18,990 --> 00:40:20,930 Some of the infections also infect people. 583 00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:26,820 After all the lies about Plum Island not being a hazard to you and me, the guy 584 00:40:26,820 --> 00:40:30,060 who ran the lab admits the exact opposite. 585 00:40:30,860 --> 00:40:33,900 Did Lyme disease originate at Plum Island? 586 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,920 Well, you know, that's something that you hear all the time. Well, let's make 587 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:43,000 leap then. If Eric Traub was with Nazis, could he have been ahead of his time 588 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,000 and created it here? 589 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,900 So you're saying to me there's nothing for the public to worry about at Plum 590 00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:49,900 Island? 591 00:40:50,850 --> 00:40:53,910 The people that work at Plum Island, they're just ordinary Americans. 592 00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:59,370 Dr. Breeze played dumb about the Montauk monster and the mutated man. 593 00:40:59,710 --> 00:41:00,910 Do you know anything about that? 594 00:41:01,630 --> 00:41:06,250 I don't know. You're being funny with me now, doctor. Would I dare to be funny 595 00:41:06,250 --> 00:41:07,250 with you? 596 00:41:07,390 --> 00:41:13,650 He had his story down, but then he let slip something I could hardly believe. 597 00:41:14,450 --> 00:41:15,730 At Plum Island. 598 00:41:16,250 --> 00:41:19,990 You had the outbreak of hoof and mouth. What precautions are taken at Plum 599 00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:21,210 Island that makes it safe? 600 00:41:21,850 --> 00:41:25,070 Everybody that works in the laboratory where there's foot and mouth disease 601 00:41:25,070 --> 00:41:28,850 actually inhale virus that's in the air during the course of the day, and it 602 00:41:28,850 --> 00:41:33,470 will be trapped in the back of the throat. So that's why at Plum Island 603 00:41:33,470 --> 00:41:36,350 always been a rule that if you go inside the laboratory... 604 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,160 then you're not allowed to have an animal that might catch foot in that 605 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,260 or the other diseases that are working there at home. You can't visit a zoo or 606 00:41:44,260 --> 00:41:46,680 circus or any place, pet store. 607 00:41:47,420 --> 00:41:53,640 He admitted that people bring infectious disease off the island and security is 608 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,820 on the honor system. 609 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,400 That's one for the books. 610 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,180 Doctor, now, there's talk they're going to move it to Kansas. 611 00:42:01,460 --> 00:42:05,680 Why would we want to move it to Kansas in the heart of America, which, as you 612 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,600 say, if something gets out, is probably going to be far more devastating in a 613 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,720 place like Kansas than it would be on Long Island? 614 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,720 I agree with it. I agree with it totally. Why do they want to move it? 615 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:22,060 The Congress decides what it wants to do. It's a $700 million construction. 616 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,500 I guess we have to assume that Kansas had some great lobbyists. 617 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,080 Oh, I think for certain. Okay, no, I mean, we've made that assumption. 618 00:42:31,820 --> 00:42:35,060 It all comes down to politics as usual. 619 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,820 Look at that place. 620 00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:42,660 It's a toxic, ticking time bomb for an outbreak of cataclysmic proportions. 621 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,920 And they want to move it to the middle of the country? 622 00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:49,160 What could go wrong? 623 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,760 The military academic industrial complex. 624 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,120 That's a new one to me, but it says a lot. 625 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,800 Combine fear, greed, and our tax dollars, and you've got a biowarfare 626 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,040 that's out of control. 627 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,440 It's a conspiracy, all right, and it poses a bigger threat to this nation 628 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,540 any terror group. 629 00:43:12,860 --> 00:43:18,460 There's more than 1 ,300 of these germ labs across the country. That means one 630 00:43:18,460 --> 00:43:21,220 of them is probably upwind from you. 631 00:43:21,820 --> 00:43:27,320 At any moment, you and I can wind up victims of an attack or careless 632 00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:31,720 something you can't see, hear, or even know about. 633 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,640 You really want to take that chance? 634 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:39,240 Think about it. And while you're at it, if you have a pet, be sure and check it 635 00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:40,240 for ticks. 636 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,300 I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory. 59553

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