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Hidden power, secrets, cover -ups, corruption.

You think you know the whole story? Think again.

I've been governor, a Navy SEAL, a fighter.

I've heard things that'll blow your mind. And now I think it's time you get

whole story.

Now, The Sleeper Assassins.

A government plot to turn ordinary citizens into programmed killers.

This is a real thing, not just science fiction.

Plucked from the crowd.

Subjected to mind control.

Tortured. And turned into ticking time bombs who kill on command.

You can take control over somebody's mind to the point where they essentially

are your robots.

They don't know when they'll strike. And when they do, they won't remember.

Their memory is completely wiped out permanently.

Jesse Ventura and his conspiracy team infiltrate the government's hair

conspiracy. And Jesse goes face -to -face with one of the killers. This is

bizarre.

to say the least. Goes beyond bizarre.

They call them Manchurian candidates, super soldiers, the government's real

-life predators.

I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory.

A downtown parking garage.

A showdown between two warriors, former Navy SEAL Jesse Ventura and a self

-professed government assassin.

I was never told why.

Just fetch a target, eliminate.

Jesse Ventura knows what it's like to confront an enemy on the battlefield.

But what has he walked into now?

Have you killed people? I have.

Am I in danger now?

He's about to find out.

And he's ready for action.

There I was, looking into the eyes of a man who said he was a program killer.

A killer for our government.

And you want to know the strangest part?

After all we'd uncovered, his story didn't seem so strange at all.

It all began when we got a call from a law professor who said he'd gotten his

hands on some declassified CIA papers.

We're talking about mind control.

Right.

Who are the people who are the victims? Who are the people who are the

perpetrators? Mind control as an ability to take over somebody else's mind is

not science fiction.

It is possible.

Alan Sheflin is more than a top legal scholar.

He's the award -winning author of books like The Mind Manipulators, a courtroom

expert on mind control. He sought out Jesse Ventura because his research

indicates the CIA is creating a new kind of weapon.

I think that the government is still in the mind control business.

Now, I'm familiar with back in the 50s and early 60s what they always term

MKUltra. Yes. Is that part of this?

Well, they're all related. They're all related.

Yeah, I mean, they had interaction with all the different agencies, and they're

all part of mind and behavior control experiments.

Okay. That we certainly can prove, and the agencies don't deny that they did

that.

Would these techniques ultimately lead to Manchurian candidates that we've all

heard about? People who are more or less hypnotized, programmed, robotic, who

would go out and do a political assassination or things of that nature?

The Manchurian candidate, the label for the brainwashed assassin, entered

popular culture through a novel and two movies.

Many assume it's all make -believe.

The first question, I think, is whether the construct of a Manchurian candidate

is possible.

You know, can you take control over somebody's mind to the point where they

essentially are your robot and they're not aware that they are so acting?

And what's the answer to that? The answer to that is yes.

So it gives plausible denial. You got the typical lone nut assassin and no

conspiracy, nobody tied to him. They could never reveal the information

they didn't know they had it.

Why do you necessarily would the government need a Manchurian candidate

assassination when you could take a highly trained Navy SEAL?

and get the job done. Amnesia. If they're assassinating someone who they

should be assassinated, a villain of some sort out there in the world, say an

-Qaeda terrorist out there, why would they feel fear of the assassin talking

about it?

One of the ideas of a Manchurian candidate is to get somebody from

government to assassinate their head of state.

What do you want me to do?

I would like you to do many things if you could. One is to investigate whether

or not the intelligence agencies are continuing the psychological aspects.

That work is still going on. It's still going on today.

I'm former military, and it bothers me greatly that our country could continue

to use military people as guinea pigs.

And that's one reason I think I can dig into this, because if our government is

abusing our military personnel like they've been known to do in the past, I

would like to turn them over for that.

It's worse than you imagine.

In a time of war, a warning that rogue elements within the government are

creating a new generation of assassin through mind control.

Jesse Ventura's elite team of investigators and researchers will take

top -secret conspiracy.

Hey, I learned about all this stuff back in the 70s when it was revealed the

MKUltra program had gone on literally for two decades.

Isn't that stuff out of a movie? Yeah, it was called the Venturian Candidate.

It's CIA experimentation, and through torture, you can basically create a

personality, basically a sleeper soldier.

That is doable. So you're saying that the government is programming killers?

Well, if you're old enough like me, you remember Sirhan Sirhan, the guy who

allegedly killed Robert F. Kennedy. A lot of people claim that he was

programmed, and he couldn't remember after he shot him that he didn't

anything about it. Even today, he claims no memory of it. Yeah, and what about

Mark David Chapman, the guy who killed John Lennon?

He never attempted to escape.

He killed Lennon, he had opportunity to jump on the subway, run into Central

Park, whatever, and yet he stood there, dropped the weapon, stepped back, and

was there reading The Catcher in the Rye when the police arrived.

Pretty bizarre behavior.

What better way to do it?

than to create almost a zombie -like character who will carry out the mission

with no regard whether they get caught or what happens to them in the end. We

know that the CIA has tried mind control. We know that the technology

I've heard all about this stuff. Now I want to know, can it really be done?

Find me somebody who can show me that it can be done.

Coming up.

Jesse Ventura sees how even you could be turned into a programmed killer.

When I call you on the phone, I will give you a word, and that word is...

his bizarre confrontation with the U .S. Army general who invented the psychic

super soldier.

They could use the mind to explode the heart of a goat.

And later, Jesse goes one -on -one.

With a real -life predator.

Don't be surprised if some of your Navy SEALs weren't some of us.

Jesse Ventura is chasing a deadly conspiracy. A secret government program

turns unwitting people into programmed killers.

Triggered through mind control.

Everyone thought the program was dead.

Insiders say it's not.

I think it's important for you and for people in general to really grasp that

this is a real thing, not just science fiction.

Are Manchurian candidates real?

Definitely. And I can show you some documents that will convince you of

Okay. So the government is in this business.

Has been for sure for a documented fact.

Dr. Colin Ross is a renowned psychiatrist and lecturer.

He's written many books and papers on identity disorders and the CIA's

experiments in mind control.

Doctor, what's your definition of, quote, a Manchurian candidate?

Basically, an artificially created multiple personality where there's

identity inside, which is given the mission parameters, carries out the

And the idea, I think, is if they're caught and interrogated.

The front person has no memory for the mission, so it keeps the information

secure. Secure, so they can use the one personality to carry the job out, and

then the other personality, in essence, is to cover it up.

Exactly.

Dr. Ross says he got his facts straight from the source.

He used the Freedom of Information Act to acquire thousands of government

documents. Does this fall under the CIA?

Different branches of the military.

but also CIA is really running most of it. People are given massive amounts of

electric shock. Their memory is completely wiped out permanently.

Most of these people, did they know what they were getting, or were they really

just monkeys in a laboratory, for lack of a better term? It's just like the

radiation experiments and the germ warfare experiments.

Soldier, you're volunteering for this. Be here at 9 o 'clock tomorrow morning.

We're testing a vaccine or we're testing a cold treatment or we're testing

something or other.

Yeah, they really didn't know.

Doctor, you got more stuff to show me, don't you? Yeah, I got some documents

that'll be very convincing.

Well, I want to bring in June, one of my lead investigators, if that's all

right. Sure, absolutely.

I'll take you inside and show you some of this. Okay, very good.

Jesse Ventura wants June Sarpong to be fully briefed for what she's about to

face. This is the most dangerous investigation yet.

They're creating robots to carry out missions that they need done. Exactly.

I can show you a document here. Yes, please.

All these are MKUltra files, so MK stands for the certain division of the

that was running the program.

You will understand that creating the Jekyll Hyde personality in the form

blanked out, is taking a little doing.

So what they were really doing was creating the Jekyll Hyde, Manchurian

candidate.

So this is hypnotic experimentation and research, and this woman, who appears to

be a secretary for the CIA, is hypnotized, and it describes in great

she was instructed that her rage would be so great that she would not hesitate

to kill so -and -so for failing to awaken, which is another experimental

who's in a hypnotic trance.

So she carried out these suggestions to the letter, including firing the

unloaded pneumatic pistol gun at so -and -so, and then proceeding to fall into a

deep sleep. Both were awakened and expressed complete amnesia for the

sequence. How quickly could you turn somebody into this state?

Like a stage hypnotist can just, in a matter of minutes, but to get somebody

who's stable, who's operational, you get control of their life space for weeks,

months, or a couple of years, and you start doing a lot of hypnosis.

sensory deprivation, sensory isolation, food and sleep deprivation possibly, a

bunch of different drugs, interrogation techniques.

Well, you know, talking about this has been interesting, but I personally right

now would like to see it live. I'd like to see a live demonstration of what

hypnotism can do in the real world here.

Sure. We'll go take a look at that. Very good.

Dr. Ross takes the conspiracy investigators to watch hypnotist James

he works with the subject.

Now right now I want you to picture something in your mind. I want you to

picture this beautiful golden staircase.

This is no parlor trick.

This is a basic demonstration of the first steps toward creating a Manchurian

candidate.

Kellogg will show in stark terms how expert mind manipulation can make people

things.

then have no memory of what they've done.

This man is in a deep trance and he's been given a post -hypnotic suggestion.

A post -hypnotic suggestion means the hypnotist is telling him that when he

hears a certain word, he will behave in a certain manner. Or it could be

something with the hands or a light or any kind of cue.

And so what we're seeing here is...

The Manchurian candidate is built on a foundation of things that any good

hypnotic subject can do.

Now you've got him under a deep

hypnosis. If you ask him to do something that he knows is illegal in his

conscious mind, will he do it anyway?

There are...

People that can go that far definitely could.

You could push an envelope pretty far.

It's a very scary sight.

Now the hypnotist plants the trigger word.

I will call you on the phone.

And when I call you on the phone, I will give you a word.

And that word is rosebud.

Now he awakens the subject.

On the count of three, I want you to sit in your chair. Slowly open up your

eyes. One, two, three. Sit in your chair. Come

on out

here.

And now he leaves the subject with Jesse Ventura.

As far as Jesse can see, the hypnosis had no effect.

The man seems normal enough.

But the Manchurian candidate inside him is about to be triggered.

Hello?

Rosebud.

Rosebud.

Coming up, is the sleeper assassin about to be awakened?

You don't feel nothing, huh? Not at all. Really?

Yeah.

Then... confirmation of military mind games from the general depicted in the

movie, the man who stare at goats.

What I did was to try to take the tunnel and take the blinders off.

And later, the trail leads one step closer to the programmed killer.

Black operations are operations that the government doesn't want people to know

about. It could be assassinations.

Almost anything you see in the movies today is kind of the beginning of what

be done, technologically.

I would believe that because I know when I did Predator, I found out that

whatever weapon Hollywood has in the U .S. military will have it within the

The thing that I liked about that show was the invisible villain.

Invisibility is coming.

Now, wait, when you say invisibility, what are you talking about? Making a

person invisible.

Imagine an outfit with photo sensors on it. Okay. So the back of it picks up the

scene behind you.

The front of it puts the scene on the front of you.

And you blend in. So literally you could become a tree.

You could become like the creature in Predator where...

You kind of see a little outline as he moves, but if he holds still, you don't

see a thing.

Really? That's coming.

Conspiracy theory continues next.

The conspiracy theory.

Elements within our government turning ordinary citizens just like you and me

into programmed killers.

Jesse Ventura is getting a demonstration on how an assassin can be created.

Through hypnosis.

This man's in a deep trance and he's been given a post -hypnotic suggestion.

And you'll see what it turns out to be. And there's a trigger that's going to

cue him to do the behavior.

And when I call you on the phone, I will give you a word. And that word is

rosebud.

When I say the word rosebud, you will begin to limp as you walk.

It's a very distinctive limp.

Very pronounced limp.

And if I call you again on the phone and I say the word flower, you will

instantly stop limping immediately and walking the normal pace.

One, two, three. Step in your chairs while you open your eyes up.

The hypnotist has embedded two key words in the man's subconscious.

An onward and an offward.

Figure words that will be delivered over the telephone.

You know. Hello.

Rosebud. Rosebud.

Hello? Hello?

The word does indeed trigger something within the subject.

Lucky for Jesse, it's not a command to attack, only to change his behavior.

Suddenly, the subject is walking with a limp he did not have before.

He doesn't realize he has it now. What are you limping for?

Why are you limping?

I'm not limping.

Really? Yeah.

I'm fine.

Then the phone rings again.

Hello?

With this call, a new keyword.

And he loses the limp.

When the experiment is over, the subject comes out of the trance and can't

remember a thing.

Really kind of made the back of my neck tingle.

Made the hairs on my arms kind of stand on end with seeing all this.

Why are you limping?

I'm not limping.

Yeah, that happened because it's on camera. It's on tape. I'm watching it

in front of me, but I don't remember.

And as he watches his actions replayed on video, that's what disturbs him most.

He can't remember.

I'm kind of violated, honestly.

Really kind of disturbed because I don't have any memory of this yet. I'm seeing

it happen right in front of me. It scares me that that could happen.

He realizes this wasn't a game.

It wasn't a trick.

He could have been ordered to kill.

It scares me knowing that I did that and I have no memory of it and that I was

able to be programmed, frankly, that easily.

I think if you work on somebody enough, you could break their will and make them

do anything.

And I think that if it's used for the wrong thing, it could be disastrous.

We made a guy limp just by saying the word rosebud.

Now imagine if evil forces did the same thing, but did it over a period of weeks

or months and threw in some torture.

Okay, I've seen it done.

Now I know they can do it.

Who else could they have done this to?

Well, let's take Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber. Now, he claims to

have been implanted with a chip, with a microchip. And it's known that he worked

at a facility in Buffalo, which was used for these mind control experiments in

the 50s. Wait a minute. So McVeigh is a government -trained killer now?

Well, McVeigh is saying he was implanted with microchips. That's what he's

saying. And what about the 9 -11 hijackers? Well, the problem there is

all dead.

Now, look, this is all speculation, everyone. We know that. Somehow, we've

to find someone who believes that they may have been part of this program or

worked in this program.

Let's find me a whistleblower.

Coming up, Jesse confronts the real -life Army general from the film The Men

Stare at Goats of this Manchurian candidate situation.

Is that possible?

I have no doubt.

Then, a strange man in a white van leads the team to the programmed killer.

He's going to tell you what's really happening.

You may not believe it, but you damn well better listen to it.

He hasn't been wrong yet.

And later, Jesse Ventura in mind -to -mind combat with a 21st century super

soldier.

Jesse Ventura has seen it's not so difficult to turn an ordinary person

programmed killer.

But is the U .S. military doing it today?

Jesse sends Jun Sar Pong to London to meet a man who's gotten inside the

military operation.

International journalist John Ronson wrote the book The Men Who Stare at

About the Army's adventures in psychological warfare.

And so do you... believe that manchurian candidates are real i mean i certainly

believe that they tried to the other cia tried to create them cia were really

really into this idea of creating a programmed assassin to kill castro or

whatever mk ultra was partly about creating a truth serum and it was partly

about trying to create a programmed assassin and what were their methods

LSD was a big one.

They would spike people's drinks with huge amounts of LSD.

So MK Ultra was pretty much as sinister as things got.

What do you know about General Stubblebine?

General Albert Stubblebine III.

He was head of Army Intelligence from 1980 to 1983.

General Stubblebine was in charge of the psychic spies at Fort Meade. He was

trying to create a soldier who would have the power to walk through walls.

and lepidate. He thought the American soldier would win all wars if they could

learn how to walk through walls.

While John Ronson speaks about Major General Stubblebine, Jesse Ventura is

already on the way to meet the man himself.

He's the mastermind of the Army's psychic warfare program, the basis for a

central character in The Men Who Stare at Goats.

In what you did in the Army, did you play with the minds of soldiers? Did any

that type of behavior go on?

Let me just give you a thought.

Most people wear blinders, okay? They wander through

life looking through a tunnel.

Tunnel vision.

Tunnel vision.

What I did was to try to take the tunnel.

And take the blinders off.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Whoa, this guy is definitely out there.

But he was the head of Army intelligence, and it proves that all

mind control and psychic experiments is more than just a conspiracy theory.

The military really did play with people's minds.

I know, it sounds strange.

It's strange as heck, isn't it?

Is this the preliminary steps to this, quote, super soldier we hear about?

Oh, boy.

When I developed what I call the high -performance task force and tried to

all of these technologies, a very interesting thing happened.

I was in my office one day, and some people wanted to see me.

Well, what they brought to me was the philosophy or the thought process of

how they could use the mind, okay, very carefully directed,

okay, and very carefully focused to explode the heart of a goat.

I said, what?

You know, bring that one back again. Time out a second. What they said to you

was by using the mind and thinking whatever it is required to do, you

what, then look at a goat and explode the heart inside it? Well, whoa, whoa,

whoa. Look at the goat with the intentionality of exploding the heart. I

believe in what I could do, okay? I had to focus it at the heart, and I had to

focus it on exploding the heart.

Okay? Now, I have seen evidence that it's possible.

Okay? And what evidence would lead you to believe that it's possible? Well,

showed me some examples.

But you're not going to tell me. No.

Do you think that MKUltra practices go on now? The Manchurian candidates exist.

My guess is that MKUltra was very much a product of the paranoia of the 50s and

60s and the Cold War.

So when you're in times of great paranoia, you're going to get

these kind of extreme responses. Aren't we in times of great paranoia? Well, we

are in times of great paranoia, and there's no doubt that a lot of really...

unpleasant things happened in Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib to do with, you know,

trying to get inside people's heads and kind of screwing with people's heads.

Now, you know, I'm drugs. So, yeah, I think it's quite possible.

General, this Manchurian candidate situation, in your experience and

government operates, how the military operates, wouldn't you have to believe

it's going on somewhere within that vast?

I'm sure that it's going on somewhere. I have no doubt.

You can't really look someone up on the computer and say, are you a programmed

killer of the government? I don't think the yellow pages are going to help him.

Yeah, I don't think that will either.

This is a tough one.

Real tough.

There's somebody out there who knows something. There's too many of these

stories.

You need to find me a sleeper assassin.

Coming up, the strange man in the van.

Jesse Ventura's team tracks down the soldier who led the military's pack of

programmed predators.

Which means that you would have been responsible for a lot of assassination.

How very astute of you.

And later, the ultimate confrontation.

The Navy SEAL versus the super soldier. Did you serve in combat? Where did you

serve? Despite every jungle on the world.

Jesse Ventura had heard of Manchurian candidates back when he served as a Navy

SEAL.

I learned about MK -ULTRA, which was a program the government and the CIA

operated where they used mind control in an attempt to create the perfect

assassin.

Now Jesse is out to find proof that the program is back in operation.

You mean the white van in the parking lot?

Sources have led his investigator, Junsar Pong, and advisor, Michael

to a parking lot outside Las Vegas.

They were told to find a white van.

You finally made it. I did.

Inside, they find David Corso, always on the move.

Always undercover, the man who claims to be a veteran of a top -secret MKUltra

program called Project Talent.

So, David, now tell me, you were in Vietnam up here.

Yes, I was.

And what was that experience like?

A multitude of experiences.

I went and did whatever they asked me to do. There are many things that I have

fleeting recollections of, but I don't have.

A solid, what I would call, memory out.

Now you're the team leader of Black Ops. Yes. What does that mean?

Black operations are operations undertaken by various groups within the

to do things that the government doesn't want people to know about.

It could be assassinations, it could be robbery, it could be theft, blackmail.

Who knows?

Which means that you would have been responsible for a lot of assassinations.

How very astute of you.

Corso says he's retired. He denies that he was a Manchurian candidate.

But he says he recently met a young man who was a programmed killer.

And then some.

One of the super soldiers General Stubblebine worked to create.

Robert Duncan O 'Finnian.

My friend and my...

Buddy and my confidant. Duncan O 'Finnian has some unusual psychic

talents.

He has capabilities that I've seen demonstrated that people just don't

He has unusual body strength.

He has unusual martial arts talents.

He has alter egos that have to be triggered by something.

I've seen at least two of them.

So what will we learn by talking to Duncan O 'Finnian?

When you talk to Duncan, he's going to tell you what's really happening and

what's going to happen probably.

You may not like it.

You may not believe it.

But you damn well better listen to it.

He hasn't been wrong yet.

Is there someone you can lead us to?

Oh, I could probably find him for you.

The strange man in the van comes through.

Soon, June and Braverman are in the same room as the programmed killer.

Now, you claim to be a super soldier.

Can you tell me what that is?

It's part of an experiment that started several decades ago and is continuing to

run now, where basically people are taken and genetically enhanced with

and just turned into more than a normal.

human being with augmented strength, automatic speed.

So they almost become fighting machines.

That's correct.

What kind of missions were you sent to?

I would have to say at least half were termination jobs.

By that you mean killing?

Yes.

Sanctioned, murdered by the government.

Can you tell us about some of these?

A lot of time was spent in Central and South America.

I did spend some time in Africa.

There was also some covert operations that I was involved in in the States.

And what was your last mission?

I don't know.

I have three days of missing time that I don't know what happened.

When was that?

That was about four years ago in the Virgin Islands.

And you haven't been called again since?

Not that I'm aware of, no. Not that I'm aware of.

Now, there are going to be a lot of people watching this, Duncan, who think,

come on. Of course.

I don't blame them one bit.

But if they do the research, especially with some of the Freedom of Information

Act material that is out there, where they openly admitted that they did these

experiments and there was no closure to the experiment, then that's the

CIA's own mission.

And if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

So do you think you were created by the CIA's MKUltra?

Nearly every acronym that is used in the mind control programs falls under the

MKUltra umbrella.

In that sense, yes.

So how did you end up there?

It's generational.

My father was a CIA asset.

Something I didn't find out until several years after he died.

O 'Finnian claims that powers from implanted chips make him a super

But his programming fits the pattern of a Manchurian candidate.

Trigger words, code words, so that that personality could be brought out when it

needed to be brought out.

And when that job was over, keywords were given.

That personality went back to sleep.

This personality came back.

with no knowledge what they ever had done.

That alternate personality was only supposed to manifest when triggered by

words or keywords.

In my case, it was usually a phone call.

The phone would ring, I'd answer the phone, become stoic, just blank face.

Sometimes I would pack a travel bag, sometimes not, and wouldn't leave.

So there you have it, Governor.

Well, it's clear as day that he believes it.

Well, I'll tell you what, this guy's so bizarre, I want to talk to him in

person. I want a one -on -one interview with this guy.

Coming up, Clash of the Titans.

Jesse Ventura goes up against the Manchurian candidate super soldier.

Would the powers to be be extremely upset if they know you're talking to me?

Absolutely.

Jesse Ventura is about to confront a programmed killer.

Robert Duncan O 'Finnian says he's living proof that the government's top

sleeper assassin program is back in action.

Jesse Ventura, decorated war veteran and Navy SEAL, demanded to judge this so

-called super soldier man to man.

The meet takes place in a downtown parking garage.

This is bizarre, to say the least. It goes beyond bizarre and gets more

as you dig down the rabbit hole.

We've all read about quote -unquote Manchurian candidates, and what you're

to tell me is it's absolutely real. It is absolutely real. However, we were

beyond Manchurian.

A Manchurian candidate, as a rule, was designed to do one job, one job only.

We did multitudes.

Now, when you say we, who's we? And are we speaking here of MKUltra?

MKUltra is more of a catch -all phrase for anything to do with what we're

talking about.

The governor finds out more about O 'Finnian's supposed microchip implants.

Correct me and educate me as we go along here. You were involved in a car

accident.

Correct. And because of it, you got an MRI.

Right. What happened is the MRI caused the cranial implant to malfunction.

And when it malfunctioned, it broke down specific barriers that were put in

place to keep memories separated, departmentalized, as it were.

And it was at that moment that I knew that all the nightmares, the daydreams,

weren't just dreams. They were actual memories of the different personalities

missing.

After that day, I basically had a choice. It would go totally insane or

what happened.

How many implants did it turn out that you had in you?

I know of three, and I'm told I have at least five, maybe seven.

And you have no recollection of these implants being put in your body?

When O 'Finnian describes how he was programmed, the story is all too

What they did with me and us in the group was use trauma -based torture.

Which would be?

Well, in my case, it was beatings, waterboarding, being strapped in a

chair with my fingers spread open and needles inserted underneath the

fingernails.

And they do this for what reason?

To cause so much pain.

that you will black out, you will faint. However, at the same time, you have an

IV hooked up to you with a drug cocktail that eliminates that.

Eliminates the pain.

No, eliminates blacking out. You cannot black out. You cannot faint.

It's at that time your psyche has two choices.

Split to an alternate personality or die.

One thing's pretty clear.

O 'Finnian absolutely believes what he says.

But does Jesse Ventura?

Did you serve in combat? Where did you serve?

Southeast Asia, Central America, South America, just about every jungle on the

world. And you did that as an operative of who, the CIA?

CIA, the NSA, whoever.

Okay, but you were not in military service. We were created by some black

operation factions of the government somewhere, somehow.

Yes. But we were loaned out, sold out, poured out to whatever agency needed us

to do a job for them at that time. And now the training they put you through,

what type of training do you recall you went through?

Severe physical.

training, martial arts training, marksmanship training. You name it, we

through it. We were taught to fly a variety of aircraft, drive a multitude

vehicles, from tanks to both wagons. Really? Everything in between.

Anything that needed done, we were trained to do.

So they didn't need us Navy SEALs anymore.

Don't be surprised if some of you Navy SEALs weren't some of us.

Let me ask this. You said we could be blunt and straightforward, right? Have

killed people? I have. You have? I have.

And you've killed them through this operation?

Correct. Now, let me ask this. What type of target would you get and for what

purpose? Usually, I was never told why. Just at your target, eliminate.

And you had no control over this when you did it?

No.

As your memories come back, Do you remember things that you naturally wish

wouldn't remember?

Every day. And you actually still work for people today?

Not that I'm aware of.

Do you fear for your life today?

The CIA and the government is very good at doing preemptive

strikes. Would the powers to be be extremely upset if they know you're

to me?

Absolutely. Am I in danger now from talking to you? No, you're too high

So it's just a small minority within the government that does this.

Absolutely. So whoever created all this and did all this to all you people, you

feel should be held accountable for it. They should be, and that's part of our

goal. Find these people, hold them accountable, stop what's going on, and

us some closure.

Duncan, good luck.

Thank you.

Three generations of soldiers, psychiatrists, investigative

victims themselves have made it clear.

Manchurian candidates, programmed assassins, super soldiers are out there.

The question is, how many?

We know the U .S. military has been experimenting with mind control since

1950s. We've seen how hypnosis, torture, and other techniques can make ordinary

people do things they otherwise couldn't do.

I met a man who says they did it to him. And remember all the high -profile

assassins who fit the pattern?

One thing's for sure.

All of them believe the government turned them into weapons.

Coincidence? I don't think so.

And from what we've found, I'm convinced there's more of them out there.

Let's just hope their sights are aimed at the enemy.

I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is Conspiracy Theory.