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Hidden power, secrets, cover -ups,
corruption.

You think you know the whole story?
Think again.

I've been governor, a Navy SEAL, a
fighter.

I've heard things that'll blow your
mind. And now I think it's time you get

whole story.

Now, The Sleeper Assassins.

A government plot to turn ordinary
citizens into programmed killers.

This is a real thing, not just science
fiction.

Plucked from the crowd.

Subjected to mind control.

Tortured. And turned into ticking time
bombs who kill on command.

You can take control over somebody's
mind to the point where they essentially

are your robots.

They don't know when they'll strike. And
when they do, they won't remember.

Their memory is completely wiped out
permanently.

Jesse Ventura and his conspiracy team
infiltrate the government's hair

conspiracy. And Jesse goes face -to
-face with one of the killers. This is

bizarre.

to say the least. Goes beyond bizarre.

They call them Manchurian candidates,
super soldiers, the government's real

-life predators.

I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is
Conspiracy Theory.

A downtown parking garage.

A showdown between two warriors, former
Navy SEAL Jesse Ventura and a self

-professed government assassin.

I was never told why.

Just fetch a target, eliminate.

Jesse Ventura knows what it's like to
confront an enemy on the battlefield.

But what has he walked into now?

Have you killed people? I have.

Am I in danger now?

He's about to find out.

And he's ready for action.

There I was, looking into the eyes of a
man who said he was a program killer.

A killer for our government.

And you want to know the strangest part?

After all we'd uncovered, his story
didn't seem so strange at all.

It all began when we got a call from a
law professor who said he'd gotten his

hands on some declassified CIA papers.

We're talking about mind control.

Right.

Who are the people who are the victims?
Who are the people who are the

perpetrators? Mind control as an ability
to take over somebody else's mind is

not science fiction.

It is possible.

Alan Sheflin is more than a top legal
scholar.

He's the award -winning author of books
like The Mind Manipulators, a courtroom

expert on mind control. He sought out
Jesse Ventura because his research

indicates the CIA is creating a new kind
of weapon.

I think that the government is still in
the mind control business.

Now, I'm familiar with back in the 50s
and early 60s what they always term

MKUltra. Yes. Is that part of this?

Well, they're all related. They're all
related.

Yeah, I mean, they had interaction with
all the different agencies, and they're

all part of mind and behavior control
experiments.

Okay. That we certainly can prove, and
the agencies don't deny that they did

that.

Would these techniques ultimately lead
to Manchurian candidates that we've all

heard about? People who are more or less
hypnotized, programmed, robotic, who

would go out and do a political
assassination or things of that nature?

The Manchurian candidate, the label for
the brainwashed assassin, entered

popular culture through a novel and two
movies.

Many assume it's all make -believe.

The first question, I think, is whether
the construct of a Manchurian candidate

is possible.

You know, can you take control over
somebody's mind to the point where they

essentially are your robot and they're
not aware that they are so acting?

And what's the answer to that? The
answer to that is yes.

So it gives plausible denial. You got
the typical lone nut assassin and no

conspiracy, nobody tied to him. They
could never reveal the information

they didn't know they had it.

Why do you necessarily would the
government need a Manchurian candidate

assassination when you could take a
highly trained Navy SEAL?

and get the job done. Amnesia. If
they're assassinating someone who they

should be assassinated, a villain of
some sort out there in the world, say an

-Qaeda terrorist out there, why would
they feel fear of the assassin talking

about it?

One of the ideas of a Manchurian
candidate is to get somebody from

government to assassinate their head of
state.

What do you want me to do?

I would like you to do many things if
you could. One is to investigate whether

or not the intelligence agencies are
continuing the psychological aspects.

That work is still going on. It's still
going on today.

I'm former military, and it bothers me
greatly that our country could continue

to use military people as guinea pigs.

And that's one reason I think I can dig
into this, because if our government is

abusing our military personnel like
they've been known to do in the past, I

would like to turn them over for that.

It's worse than you imagine.

In a time of war, a warning that rogue
elements within the government are

creating a new generation of assassin
through mind control.

Jesse Ventura's elite team of
investigators and researchers will take

top -secret conspiracy.

Hey, I learned about all this stuff back
in the 70s when it was revealed the

MKUltra program had gone on literally
for two decades.

Isn't that stuff out of a movie? Yeah,
it was called the Venturian Candidate.

It's CIA experimentation, and through
torture, you can basically create a

personality, basically a sleeper
soldier.

That is doable. So you're saying that
the government is programming killers?

Well, if you're old enough like me, you
remember Sirhan Sirhan, the guy who

allegedly killed Robert F. Kennedy. A
lot of people claim that he was

programmed, and he couldn't remember
after he shot him that he didn't

anything about it. Even today, he claims
no memory of it. Yeah, and what about

Mark David Chapman, the guy who killed
John Lennon?

He never attempted to escape.

He killed Lennon, he had opportunity to
jump on the subway, run into Central

Park, whatever, and yet he stood there,
dropped the weapon, stepped back, and

was there reading The Catcher in the Rye
when the police arrived.

Pretty bizarre behavior.

What better way to do it?

than to create almost a zombie -like
character who will carry out the mission

with no regard whether they get caught
or what happens to them in the end. We

know that the CIA has tried mind
control. We know that the technology

I've heard all about this stuff. Now I
want to know, can it really be done?

Find me somebody who can show me that it
can be done.

Coming up.

Jesse Ventura sees how even you could be
turned into a programmed killer.

When I call you on the phone, I will
give you a word, and that word is...

his bizarre confrontation with the U .S.
Army general who invented the psychic

super soldier.

They could use the mind to explode the
heart of a goat.

And later, Jesse goes one -on -one.

With a real -life predator.

Don't be surprised if some of your Navy
SEALs weren't some of us.

Jesse Ventura is chasing a deadly
conspiracy. A secret government program

turns unwitting people into programmed
killers.

Triggered through mind control.

Everyone thought the program was dead.

Insiders say it's not.

I think it's important for you and for
people in general to really grasp that

this is a real thing, not just science
fiction.

Are Manchurian candidates real?

Definitely. And I can show you some
documents that will convince you of

Okay. So the government is in this
business.

Has been for sure for a documented fact.

Dr. Colin Ross is a renowned
psychiatrist and lecturer.

He's written many books and papers on
identity disorders and the CIA's

experiments in mind control.

Doctor, what's your definition of,
quote, a Manchurian candidate?

Basically, an artificially created
multiple personality where there's

identity inside, which is given the
mission parameters, carries out the

And the idea, I think, is if they're
caught and interrogated.

The front person has no memory for the
mission, so it keeps the information

secure. Secure, so they can use the one
personality to carry the job out, and

then the other personality, in essence,
is to cover it up.

Exactly.

Dr. Ross says he got his facts straight
from the source.

He used the Freedom of Information Act
to acquire thousands of government

documents. Does this fall under the CIA?

Different branches of the military.

but also CIA is really running most of
it. People are given massive amounts of

electric shock. Their memory is
completely wiped out permanently.

Most of these people, did they know what
they were getting, or were they really

just monkeys in a laboratory, for lack
of a better term? It's just like the

radiation experiments and the germ
warfare experiments.

Soldier, you're volunteering for this.
Be here at 9 o 'clock tomorrow morning.

We're testing a vaccine or we're testing
a cold treatment or we're testing

something or other.

Yeah, they really didn't know.

Doctor, you got more stuff to show me,
don't you? Yeah, I got some documents

that'll be very convincing.

Well, I want to bring in June, one of my
lead investigators, if that's all

right. Sure, absolutely.

I'll take you inside and show you some
of this. Okay, very good.

Jesse Ventura wants June Sarpong to be
fully briefed for what she's about to

face. This is the most dangerous
investigation yet.

They're creating robots to carry out
missions that they need done. Exactly.

I can show you a document here. Yes,
please.

All these are MKUltra files, so MK
stands for the certain division of the

that was running the program.

You will understand that creating the
Jekyll Hyde personality in the form

blanked out, is taking a little doing.

So what they were really doing was
creating the Jekyll Hyde, Manchurian

candidate.

So this is hypnotic experimentation and
research, and this woman, who appears to

be a secretary for the CIA, is
hypnotized, and it describes in great

she was instructed that her rage would
be so great that she would not hesitate

to kill so -and -so for failing to
awaken, which is another experimental

who's in a hypnotic trance.

So she carried out these suggestions to
the letter, including firing the

unloaded pneumatic pistol gun at so -and
-so, and then proceeding to fall into a

deep sleep. Both were awakened and
expressed complete amnesia for the

sequence. How quickly could you turn
somebody into this state?

Like a stage hypnotist can just, in a
matter of minutes, but to get somebody

who's stable, who's operational, you get
control of their life space for weeks,

months, or a couple of years, and you
start doing a lot of hypnosis.

sensory deprivation, sensory isolation,
food and sleep deprivation possibly, a

bunch of different drugs, interrogation
techniques.

Well, you know, talking about this has
been interesting, but I personally right

now would like to see it live. I'd like
to see a live demonstration of what

hypnotism can do in the real world here.

Sure. We'll go take a look at that. Very
good.

Dr. Ross takes the conspiracy
investigators to watch hypnotist James

he works with the subject.

Now right now I want you to picture
something in your mind. I want you to

picture this beautiful golden staircase.

This is no parlor trick.

This is a basic demonstration of the
first steps toward creating a Manchurian

candidate.

Kellogg will show in stark terms how
expert mind manipulation can make people

things.

then have no memory of what they've
done.

This man is in a deep trance and he's
been given a post -hypnotic suggestion.

A post -hypnotic suggestion means the
hypnotist is telling him that when he

hears a certain word, he will behave in
a certain manner. Or it could be

something with the hands or a light or
any kind of cue.

And so what we're seeing here is...

The Manchurian candidate is built on a
foundation of things that any good

hypnotic subject can do.

Now you've got him under a deep

hypnosis. If you ask him to do something
that he knows is illegal in his

conscious mind, will he do it anyway?

There are...

People that can go that far definitely
could.

You could push an envelope pretty far.

It's a very scary sight.

Now the hypnotist plants the trigger
word.

I will call you on the phone.

And when I call you on the phone, I will
give you a word.

And that word is rosebud.

Now he awakens the subject.

On the count of three, I want you to sit
in your chair. Slowly open up your

eyes. One, two, three. Sit in your
chair. Come

on out

here.

And now he leaves the subject with Jesse
Ventura.

As far as Jesse can see, the hypnosis
had no effect.

The man seems normal enough.

But the Manchurian candidate inside him
is about to be triggered.

Hello?

Rosebud.

Rosebud.

Coming up, is the sleeper assassin about
to be awakened?

You don't feel nothing, huh? Not at all.
Really?

Yeah.

Then... confirmation of military mind
games from the general depicted in the

movie, the man who stare at goats.

What I did was to try to take the tunnel
and take the blinders off.

And later, the trail leads one step
closer to the programmed killer.

Black operations are operations that the
government doesn't want people to know

about. It could be assassinations.

Almost anything you see in the movies
today is kind of the beginning of what

be done, technologically.

I would believe that because I know when
I did Predator, I found out that

whatever weapon Hollywood has in the U
.S. military will have it within the

The thing that I liked about that show
was the invisible villain.

Invisibility is coming.

Now, wait, when you say invisibility,
what are you talking about? Making a

person invisible.

Imagine an outfit with photo sensors on
it. Okay. So the back of it picks up the

scene behind you.

The front of it puts the scene on the
front of you.

And you blend in. So literally you could
become a tree.

You could become like the creature in
Predator where...

You kind of see a little outline as he
moves, but if he holds still, you don't

see a thing.

Really? That's coming.

Conspiracy theory continues next.

The conspiracy theory.

Elements within our government turning
ordinary citizens just like you and me

into programmed killers.

Jesse Ventura is getting a demonstration
on how an assassin can be created.

Through hypnosis.

This man's in a deep trance and he's
been given a post -hypnotic suggestion.

And you'll see what it turns out to be.
And there's a trigger that's going to

cue him to do the behavior.

And when I call you on the phone, I will
give you a word. And that word is

rosebud.

When I say the word rosebud, you will
begin to limp as you walk.

It's a very distinctive limp.

Very pronounced limp.

And if I call you again on the phone and
I say the word flower, you will

instantly stop limping immediately and
walking the normal pace.

One, two, three. Step in your chairs
while you open your eyes up.

The hypnotist has embedded two key words
in the man's subconscious.

An onward and an offward.

Figure words that will be delivered over
the telephone.

You know. Hello.

Rosebud. Rosebud.

Hello? Hello?

The word does indeed trigger something
within the subject.

Lucky for Jesse, it's not a command to
attack, only to change his behavior.

Suddenly, the subject is walking with a
limp he did not have before.

He doesn't realize he has it now. What
are you limping for?

Why are you limping?

I'm not limping.

Really? Yeah.

I'm fine.

Then the phone rings again.

Hello?

With this call, a new keyword.

And he loses the limp.

When the experiment is over, the subject
comes out of the trance and can't

remember a thing.

Really kind of made the back of my neck
tingle.

Made the hairs on my arms kind of stand
on end with seeing all this.

Why are you limping?

I'm not limping.

Yeah, that happened because it's on
camera. It's on tape. I'm watching it

in front of me, but I don't remember.

And as he watches his actions replayed
on video, that's what disturbs him most.

He can't remember.

I'm kind of violated, honestly.

Really kind of disturbed because I don't
have any memory of this yet. I'm seeing

it happen right in front of me. It
scares me that that could happen.

He realizes this wasn't a game.

It wasn't a trick.

He could have been ordered to kill.

It scares me knowing that I did that and
I have no memory of it and that I was

able to be programmed, frankly, that
easily.

I think if you work on somebody enough,
you could break their will and make them

do anything.

And I think that if it's used for the
wrong thing, it could be disastrous.

We made a guy limp just by saying the
word rosebud.

Now imagine if evil forces did the same
thing, but did it over a period of weeks

or months and threw in some torture.

Okay, I've seen it done.

Now I know they can do it.

Who else could they have done this to?

Well, let's take Timothy McVeigh, the
Oklahoma City bomber. Now, he claims to

have been implanted with a chip, with a
microchip. And it's known that he worked

at a facility in Buffalo, which was used
for these mind control experiments in

the 50s. Wait a minute. So McVeigh is a
government -trained killer now?

Well, McVeigh is saying he was implanted
with microchips. That's what he's

saying. And what about the 9 -11
hijackers? Well, the problem there is

all dead.

Now, look, this is all speculation,
everyone. We know that. Somehow, we've

to find someone who believes that they
may have been part of this program or

worked in this program.

Let's find me a whistleblower.

Coming up, Jesse confronts the real
-life Army general from the film The Men

Stare at Goats of this Manchurian
candidate situation.

Is that possible?

I have no doubt.

Then, a strange man in a white van leads
the team to the programmed killer.

He's going to tell you what's really
happening.

You may not believe it, but you damn
well better listen to it.

He hasn't been wrong yet.

And later, Jesse Ventura in mind -to
-mind combat with a 21st century super

soldier.

Jesse Ventura has seen it's not so
difficult to turn an ordinary person

programmed killer.

But is the U .S. military doing it
today?

Jesse sends Jun Sar Pong to London to
meet a man who's gotten inside the

military operation.

International journalist John Ronson
wrote the book The Men Who Stare at

About the Army's adventures in
psychological warfare.

And so do you... believe that manchurian
candidates are real i mean i certainly

believe that they tried to the other cia
tried to create them cia were really

really into this idea of creating a
programmed assassin to kill castro or

whatever mk ultra was partly about
creating a truth serum and it was partly

about trying to create a programmed
assassin and what were their methods

LSD was a big one.

They would spike people's drinks with
huge amounts of LSD.

So MK Ultra was pretty much as sinister
as things got.

What do you know about General
Stubblebine?

General Albert Stubblebine III.

He was head of Army Intelligence from
1980 to 1983.

General Stubblebine was in charge of the
psychic spies at Fort Meade. He was

trying to create a soldier who would
have the power to walk through walls.

and lepidate. He thought the American
soldier would win all wars if they could

learn how to walk through walls.

While John Ronson speaks about Major
General Stubblebine, Jesse Ventura is

already on the way to meet the man
himself.

He's the mastermind of the Army's
psychic warfare program, the basis for a

central character in The Men Who Stare
at Goats.

In what you did in the Army, did you
play with the minds of soldiers? Did any

that type of behavior go on?

Let me just give you a thought.

Most people wear blinders, okay? They
wander through

life looking through a tunnel.

Tunnel vision.

Tunnel vision.

What I did was to try to take the
tunnel.

And take the blinders off.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa.

Whoa, this guy is definitely out there.

But he was the head of Army
intelligence, and it proves that all

mind control and psychic experiments is
more than just a conspiracy theory.

The military really did play with
people's minds.

I know, it sounds strange.

It's strange as heck, isn't it?

Is this the preliminary steps to this,
quote, super soldier we hear about?

Oh, boy.

When I developed what I call the high
-performance task force and tried to

all of these technologies, a very
interesting thing happened.

I was in my office one day, and some
people wanted to see me.

Well, what they brought to me was the
philosophy or the thought process of

how they could use the mind, okay, very
carefully directed,

okay, and very carefully focused to
explode the heart of a goat.

I said, what?

You know, bring that one back again.
Time out a second. What they said to you

was by using the mind and thinking
whatever it is required to do, you

what, then look at a goat and explode
the heart inside it? Well, whoa, whoa,

whoa. Look at the goat with the
intentionality of exploding the heart. I

believe in what I could do, okay? I had
to focus it at the heart, and I had to

focus it on exploding the heart.

Okay? Now, I have seen evidence that
it's possible.

Okay? And what evidence would lead you
to believe that it's possible? Well,

showed me some examples.

But you're not going to tell me. No.

Do you think that MKUltra practices go
on now? The Manchurian candidates exist.

My guess is that MKUltra was very much a
product of the paranoia of the 50s and

60s and the Cold War.

So when you're in times of great
paranoia, you're going to get

these kind of extreme responses. Aren't
we in times of great paranoia? Well, we

are in times of great paranoia, and
there's no doubt that a lot of really...

unpleasant things happened in Guantanamo
and Abu Ghraib to do with, you know,

trying to get inside people's heads and
kind of screwing with people's heads.

Now, you know, I'm drugs. So, yeah, I
think it's quite possible.

General, this Manchurian candidate
situation, in your experience and

government operates, how the military
operates, wouldn't you have to believe

it's going on somewhere within that
vast?

I'm sure that it's going on somewhere. I
have no doubt.

You can't really look someone up on the
computer and say, are you a programmed

killer of the government? I don't think
the yellow pages are going to help him.

Yeah, I don't think that will either.

This is a tough one.

Real tough.

There's somebody out there who knows
something. There's too many of these

stories.

You need to find me a sleeper assassin.

Coming up, the strange man in the van.

Jesse Ventura's team tracks down the
soldier who led the military's pack of

programmed predators.

Which means that you would have been
responsible for a lot of assassination.

How very astute of you.

And later, the ultimate confrontation.

The Navy SEAL versus the super soldier.
Did you serve in combat? Where did you

serve? Despite every jungle on the
world.

Jesse Ventura had heard of Manchurian
candidates back when he served as a Navy

SEAL.

I learned about MK -ULTRA, which was a
program the government and the CIA

operated where they used mind control in
an attempt to create the perfect

assassin.

Now Jesse is out to find proof that the
program is back in operation.

You mean the white van in the parking
lot?

Sources have led his investigator,
Junsar Pong, and advisor, Michael

to a parking lot outside Las Vegas.

They were told to find a white van.

You finally made it. I did.

Inside, they find David Corso, always on
the move.

Always undercover, the man who claims to
be a veteran of a top -secret MKUltra

program called Project Talent.

So, David, now tell me, you were in
Vietnam up here.

Yes, I was.

And what was that experience like?

A multitude of experiences.

I went and did whatever they asked me to
do. There are many things that I have

fleeting recollections of, but I don't
have.

A solid, what I would call, memory out.

Now you're the team leader of Black Ops.
Yes. What does that mean?

Black operations are operations
undertaken by various groups within the

to do things that the government doesn't
want people to know about.

It could be assassinations, it could be
robbery, it could be theft, blackmail.

Who knows?

Which means that you would have been
responsible for a lot of assassinations.

How very astute of you.

Corso says he's retired. He denies that
he was a Manchurian candidate.

But he says he recently met a young man
who was a programmed killer.

And then some.

One of the super soldiers General
Stubblebine worked to create.

Robert Duncan O 'Finnian.

My friend and my...

Buddy and my confidant. Duncan O
'Finnian has some unusual psychic

talents.

He has capabilities that I've seen
demonstrated that people just don't

He has unusual body strength.

He has unusual martial arts talents.

He has alter egos that have to be
triggered by something.

I've seen at least two of them.

So what will we learn by talking to
Duncan O 'Finnian?

When you talk to Duncan, he's going to
tell you what's really happening and

what's going to happen probably.

You may not like it.

You may not believe it.

But you damn well better listen to it.

He hasn't been wrong yet.

Is there someone you can lead us to?

Oh, I could probably find him for you.

The strange man in the van comes
through.

Soon, June and Braverman are in the same
room as the programmed killer.

Now, you claim to be a super soldier.

Can you tell me what that is?

It's part of an experiment that started
several decades ago and is continuing to

run now, where basically people are
taken and genetically enhanced with

and just turned into more than a normal.

human being with augmented strength,
automatic speed.

So they almost become fighting machines.

That's correct.

What kind of missions were you sent to?

I would have to say at least half were
termination jobs.

By that you mean killing?

Yes.

Sanctioned, murdered by the government.

Can you tell us about some of these?

A lot of time was spent in Central and
South America.

I did spend some time in Africa.

There was also some covert operations
that I was involved in in the States.

And what was your last mission?

I don't know.

I have three days of missing time that I
don't know what happened.

When was that?

That was about four years ago in the
Virgin Islands.

And you haven't been called again since?

Not that I'm aware of, no. Not that I'm
aware of.

Now, there are going to be a lot of
people watching this, Duncan, who think,

come on. Of course.

I don't blame them one bit.

But if they do the research, especially
with some of the Freedom of Information

Act material that is out there, where
they openly admitted that they did these

experiments and there was no closure to
the experiment, then that's the

CIA's own mission.

And if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

So do you think you were created by the
CIA's MKUltra?

Nearly every acronym that is used in the
mind control programs falls under the

MKUltra umbrella.

In that sense, yes.

So how did you end up there?

It's generational.

My father was a CIA asset.

Something I didn't find out until
several years after he died.

O 'Finnian claims that powers from
implanted chips make him a super

But his programming fits the pattern of
a Manchurian candidate.

Trigger words, code words, so that that
personality could be brought out when it

needed to be brought out.

And when that job was over, keywords
were given.

That personality went back to sleep.

This personality came back.

with no knowledge what they ever had
done.

That alternate personality was only
supposed to manifest when triggered by

words or keywords.

In my case, it was usually a phone call.

The phone would ring, I'd answer the
phone, become stoic, just blank face.

Sometimes I would pack a travel bag,
sometimes not, and wouldn't leave.

So there you have it, Governor.

Well, it's clear as day that he believes
it.

Well, I'll tell you what, this guy's so
bizarre, I want to talk to him in

person. I want a one -on -one interview
with this guy.

Coming up, Clash of the Titans.

Jesse Ventura goes up against the
Manchurian candidate super soldier.

Would the powers to be be extremely
upset if they know you're talking to me?

Absolutely.

Jesse Ventura is about to confront a
programmed killer.

Robert Duncan O 'Finnian says he's
living proof that the government's top

sleeper assassin program is back in
action.

Jesse Ventura, decorated war veteran and
Navy SEAL, demanded to judge this so

-called super soldier man to man.

The meet takes place in a downtown
parking garage.

This is bizarre, to say the least. It
goes beyond bizarre and gets more

as you dig down the rabbit hole.

We've all read about quote -unquote
Manchurian candidates, and what you're

to tell me is it's absolutely real. It
is absolutely real. However, we were

beyond Manchurian.

A Manchurian candidate, as a rule, was
designed to do one job, one job only.

We did multitudes.

Now, when you say we, who's we? And are
we speaking here of MKUltra?

MKUltra is more of a catch -all phrase
for anything to do with what we're

talking about.

The governor finds out more about O
'Finnian's supposed microchip implants.

Correct me and educate me as we go along
here. You were involved in a car

accident.

Correct. And because of it, you got an
MRI.

Right. What happened is the MRI caused
the cranial implant to malfunction.

And when it malfunctioned, it broke down
specific barriers that were put in

place to keep memories separated,
departmentalized, as it were.

And it was at that moment that I knew
that all the nightmares, the daydreams,

weren't just dreams. They were actual
memories of the different personalities

missing.

After that day, I basically had a
choice. It would go totally insane or

what happened.

How many implants did it turn out that
you had in you?

I know of three, and I'm told I have at
least five, maybe seven.

And you have no recollection of these
implants being put in your body?

When O 'Finnian describes how he was
programmed, the story is all too

What they did with me and us in the
group was use trauma -based torture.

Which would be?

Well, in my case, it was beatings,
waterboarding, being strapped in a

chair with my fingers spread open and
needles inserted underneath the

fingernails.

And they do this for what reason?

To cause so much pain.

that you will black out, you will faint.
However, at the same time, you have an

IV hooked up to you with a drug cocktail
that eliminates that.

Eliminates the pain.

No, eliminates blacking out. You cannot
black out. You cannot faint.

It's at that time your psyche has two
choices.

Split to an alternate personality or
die.

One thing's pretty clear.

O 'Finnian absolutely believes what he
says.

But does Jesse Ventura?

Did you serve in combat? Where did you
serve?

Southeast Asia, Central America, South
America, just about every jungle on the

world. And you did that as an operative
of who, the CIA?

CIA, the NSA, whoever.

Okay, but you were not in military
service. We were created by some black

operation factions of the government
somewhere, somehow.

Yes. But we were loaned out, sold out,
poured out to whatever agency needed us

to do a job for them at that time. And
now the training they put you through,

what type of training do you recall you
went through?

Severe physical.

training, martial arts training,
marksmanship training. You name it, we

through it. We were taught to fly a
variety of aircraft, drive a multitude

vehicles, from tanks to both wagons.
Really? Everything in between.

Anything that needed done, we were
trained to do.

So they didn't need us Navy SEALs
anymore.

Don't be surprised if some of you Navy
SEALs weren't some of us.

Let me ask this. You said we could be
blunt and straightforward, right? Have

killed people? I have. You have? I have.

And you've killed them through this
operation?

Correct. Now, let me ask this. What type
of target would you get and for what

purpose? Usually, I was never told why.
Just at your target, eliminate.

And you had no control over this when
you did it?

No.

As your memories come back, Do you
remember things that you naturally wish

wouldn't remember?

Every day. And you actually still work
for people today?

Not that I'm aware of.

Do you fear for your life today?

The CIA and the government is very good
at doing preemptive

strikes. Would the powers to be be
extremely upset if they know you're

to me?

Absolutely. Am I in danger now from
talking to you? No, you're too high

So it's just a small minority within the
government that does this.

Absolutely. So whoever created all this
and did all this to all you people, you

feel should be held accountable for it.
They should be, and that's part of our

goal. Find these people, hold them
accountable, stop what's going on, and

us some closure.

Duncan, good luck.

Thank you.

Three generations of soldiers,
psychiatrists, investigative

victims themselves have made it clear.

Manchurian candidates, programmed
assassins, super soldiers are out there.

The question is, how many?

We know the U .S. military has been
experimenting with mind control since

1950s. We've seen how hypnosis, torture,
and other techniques can make ordinary

people do things they otherwise couldn't
do.

I met a man who says they did it to him.
And remember all the high -profile

assassins who fit the pattern?

One thing's for sure.

All of them believe the government
turned them into weapons.

Coincidence? I don't think so.

And from what we've found, I'm convinced
there's more of them out there.

Let's just hope their sights are aimed
at the enemy.

I'm Jesse Ventura, and this is
Conspiracy Theory.