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WOMAN: The 12th of-- 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,040 JOHN: Twelfth of March. 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,600 It's me, split track, 20-- Thirty-frame center track. 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,840 There's the tone. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:24,880 MAN: Quiet, please. 9 00:00:25,080 --> 00:00:28,080 [PLAYING UPBEAT POP MUSIC] 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,080 [JOHN SINGING] 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,440 JOHN: Here we go. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,080 [SINGING] 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,480 HAHN: It was the spring of 1994 and we were just finishing The Lion King, 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,160 which would go on to earn great reviews 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,040 and about three-quarters of a billion dollars at the box office. 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,000 Not bad for a group of artists who were kicked off the Disney lot 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,960 and an art form that was given up for dead just ten years earlier. 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,680 HAHN: I produced The Lion King 19 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,400 and the cast-and-crew premiere was coming up fast. 20 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,480 It was tradition for all of us to get up on-stage 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,240 and give warm thank-you speeches. 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,160 But this time I decided to film all the speeches instead. 23 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:25,280 HAHN: Whenever you're comfortable. - You are rolling? 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,360 HAHN: Yeah. - Okay. 25 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:34,040 With all the many varied businesses this company is in, it is clear-- 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:38,720 It becomes clearer every day that animation is its soul, heart, 27 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,360 and most of its body parts. 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,840 You guys have done an unbelievable job over the last decade, 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,120 culminating in Lion King, 30 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,880 in pushing forward the company, the culture and the quality of artistry. 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:59,160 Congratulations from me, from anybody who is not on this tape, 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,400 from our board, our shareholders and my children. 33 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,640 Congratulations. 34 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,760 - Thank you. - Thanks, everybody. 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Thank you to everybody for another absolutely incredible job 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,960 on another marvelous movie on the way to the next great movie. 37 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,960 To an outsider, it looked like a perfect world. 38 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,480 - Thank you. - But backstage, 39 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:18,360 the tension had reached a peak. 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,560 HAHN: Thank you. - Okay? 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:20,880 - That was it? - Yeah, perfect. 42 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,440 Even though it was the moment of our greatest success, 43 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,360 the wheels were coming off the car. 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,280 This is the story of how we got there. 45 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,440 [SOFT JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING] 46 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,080 [PLAYING CHRISTMAS MUSIC] 47 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,840 HAHN: Let's back up to the early '80s 48 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,000 on the Disney Studio lot in Burbank, California. 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,080 The animation band is spreading its holiday cheer to the employees 50 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,840 with banjos and jew's harps, as was the tradition. 51 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,960 And that's me on the right, trying to play "Jingle Bells" on the bass. 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,960 Like so many of us, I grew up on a diet of Disney films. 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,840 And every four years, I'd make a pilgrimage 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,600 to the drive-in theater to see their latest animated masterpiece. 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,600 When I was 20, I got a job at the studio 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,120 delivering artwork and coffee to the animators 57 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,280 and I felt like I won the lottery. 58 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,520 HAHN: This was the house that Walt built. 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,760 Walt Disney, the toast of Hollywood, the genius behind Disneyland 60 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,360 and the producer behind the first animated feature, Snow White. 61 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,360 By the 1950s, Walt was losing interest in animation 62 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,840 and his attention turned to live-action films, 63 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,440 the new medium of television, 64 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:29,880 and building the first theme park, Disneyland, 65 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,360 and planning futuristic cities of tomorrow. 66 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:36,120 WALT: By far, the most important part of our Florida Project, 67 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,560 in fact, the heart of everything we'll be doing in Disney World, 68 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,800 will be our Experimental Prototype City of Tomorrow, Epcot. 69 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,840 Walt died in 1966, 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,440 but the studio still made sweet, harmless, animated comedies for kids, 71 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,000 supervised by his master animators, the Nine Old Men, 72 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,920 and produced by Walt's son-in-law, studio head Ron Miller. 73 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,200 I'm Randy Cartwright and this is Ron Miller. 74 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,480 - How are you? - How are you? 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,200 - Good to see you. This is Randy. - Great way to start the film. 76 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,680 - Is this a new--? Your first commercial? - Ha, ha. Yup. 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,840 What is this for? 78 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,760 - Just home movie. LASSETER: It's a documentary. 79 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,120 - Home movie? - Documentary of the animation studio. 80 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,960 Hi, Mom. 81 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:24,600 Well, we're off to a good start. 82 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,200 Here it is, April 9th, 1980. 83 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,240 This is the past to all you folks out there. 84 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,760 And we're gonna go inside and see what it's like. Come on. 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,280 For some reason, the halls of the Disney Animation building 86 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,040 always smelled faintly of swamp coolers and pencil shavings and old linoleum. 87 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,200 This is the infamous Rat's Nest. 88 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,560 Animation had been in this slow downward spiral for a long time, 89 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,600 even since Walt Disney was alive. 90 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,280 As veteran animators retired, new kids, 91 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,320 mostly from the Disney-sponsored school, CalArts, filled the hallways. 92 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,640 LASSETER: Why, Rubén, you're from CalArts also. 93 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,360 - Right. - And who are you? 94 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,600 LASSETER: Me? - Yes. 95 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,800 LASSETER: I'm John Lasseter. 96 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,960 He's the cameraman. He's leaving in a little while. 97 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,000 - Could I show you animation? - He's got six days. 98 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,480 - Could I show you animation? - This is animation. 99 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,400 Could I flip something for you? 100 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,400 This is it. Look at that. Peter Pan. 101 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,160 - Oh, looks up and... Ah. CARTWRIGHT: Weird. 102 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,640 It's better than the magic we're making today, 103 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,000 but we can't help that. 104 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:28,080 We were full of a lot of pent-up youthful creative energy that had to go somewhere, 105 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,640 so it was channeled into things like long lunches, volleyball games, 106 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,680 the annual caricature show, 107 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:37,000 and my perennial favorite, the holiday show 108 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,440 that starred Eddie Fisher and Doris Day, for some unknown reason. 109 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,040 [IN WOMAN'S VOICE] I hate Zsa Zsa. 110 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,600 [ANIMATORS LAUGHING] 111 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,480 CARTWRIGHT: This is one of our animators here. This is Ron Clements. 112 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,040 He's working on a scene of the Widow from The Fox and the Hound. 113 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,600 - Magically, here is Mr. John-ald Musker. - Thank you, thank you. 114 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,360 CARTWRIGHT: Another animator here at the magic factory. 115 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:00,080 LASSETER: This is Glen Keane. CARTWRIGHT: Keane. 116 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,480 LASSETER: He is a directing animator. 117 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,960 KEANE: I've been here since 8:00 this morning. 118 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,800 LASSETER: Hi, Tim. CARTWRIGHT: This is Tim Burton, 119 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,560 another one of our people here. 120 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,480 Ron Miller knew that Walt's guys were retiring fast. 121 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,680 He had to raise a new crop of animators, but he was cautious about it. 122 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:17,120 He got burned five years earlier 123 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:21,080 when he entrusted a charismatic animator named Don Bluth to lead the department. 124 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,360 But Bluth polarized the animators. 125 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,960 Some adored him as the messiah of animation and others... 126 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,600 Well, others thought he was just another Walt wannabe. 127 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:33,320 Ironically, Bluth himself became disillusioned 128 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,280 with the studio's Animation Department. 129 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,160 So on his birthday in 1979, he resigned 130 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,920 and took half the animators with him to start his own studio. 131 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,280 The bombshell set back the release of The Fox and the Hound by six months 132 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,600 and left Miller and the studio betrayed. 133 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,200 CLEMENTS: It was this interesting cross-generational thing 134 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,240 where you still had a few of these legendary Disney artists 135 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,320 who were now in their sixties and approaching retirement 136 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,600 and then a bunch of young people in their twenties 137 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,600 who were really, really excited and sort of passionate about this medium. 138 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,480 It was thrilling to learn from the masters. 139 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,640 But there was a feeling like that somehow we could be making better films. 140 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,680 Around that time, the studio did a survey 141 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,760 that revealed a majority of teenage moviegoers 142 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,080 wouldn't be caught dead near a Disney movie. 143 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:28,320 We were just waiting, waiting for something, anything to happen. 144 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,880 On Monday, we reported that Walt Disney Studios 145 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,080 was on shaky financial ground, because of its troubled Film Division 146 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,480 and weak earnings from the Epcot Center in Florida. 147 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,520 However, since that report, there have been dramatic developments. 148 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,920 In just four days, Disney stock jumped 16 percent, 149 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,280 topping off at around $58 a share. 150 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,560 Analysts attribute the jump to two factors. 151 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,560 Splash, the youth-oriented comedy about a mermaid in Manhattan, 152 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,960 stunned Hollywood by racking up over $6 million in its opening three days. 153 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,240 That's the best opening for any movie in Disney's history. 154 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,240 Another surprise, the resignation of Roy E. Disney as chairman of the board. 155 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,480 He's Walt's nephew and son of Walt's brother, the company's co-founder. 156 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:12,040 The real heartbeat of this company was, is and will always be the film business. 157 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,200 Because from the film business comes the ideas 158 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,800 that then generate new things in the parks. 159 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,600 New promotions, new-- 160 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,640 A kind of a sense of continuing newness about the company in general. 161 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,560 And when that began to fail-- 162 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,360 And I actually, somewhere along the line, began hearing things like, 163 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,280 "Well, I don't think they really wanna stay in the movie business, 164 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,160 because it's not doing very well and we don't really even need it anyway." 165 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,000 And that gave me all sorts of problems, because I, you know-- 166 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,120 I remember saying at one point, "Well, if you really think that way, 167 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,120 then what you're doing is running a museum." 168 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,240 SCHNEIDER: People always talked about Roy as the idiot nephew. 169 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:55,680 That was his nickname. 170 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,040 Nothing could be really further from the truth. 171 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,160 He was smart, unassuming and powerful. 172 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,000 You could easily underestimate him, but you did so at your own peril. 173 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,040 In 1984, the corporate raider Saul Steinberg turned his sights on Disney. 174 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,920 He threatened to buy the company, break it up and sell the parts for a profit. 175 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,720 The board countered by paying Steinberg a premium to buy back his shares. 176 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,400 It was greenmail. 177 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,400 For years, Roy and his cousin-in-law, Ron Miller, 178 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:26,160 sat across the boardroom table. 179 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,920 And now the two were at odds 180 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,800 with how the board was handling the takeover threat. 181 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,960 ROY: And we finally came to the conclusion that we can't do anything on the inside, 182 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,000 because I'm the lone voice of dissent on this board. 183 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,160 So I resigned from the board of directors. 184 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,000 And it got enormous amounts of attention. 185 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,160 I had a stack the next morning of phone messages 186 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,600 that probably was three, four inches deep. 187 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,000 One of the messages in that stack was Eisner. 188 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,480 And I had known Michael 189 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,720 because he'd come maybe a year before that on to the board at CalArts. 190 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,400 Michael wasn't an M.B.A. He was an English major. 191 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:04,600 He grew up in New York, 192 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,200 where one of his first jobs was programming kids' television for ABC. 193 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,200 SCHNEIDER: And Michael had an amazing track record coming from Paramount. 194 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,280 He'd had hits, Oscar nominations, Terms of Endearment. 195 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,520 He was a winner when he was hired to come in and run Disney. 196 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,720 He also was a man who liked to blow things up. 197 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,440 It was Frank Wells that gave Roy the idea of making Michael the chairman. 198 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Frank and Roy were classmates at Pomona College in the early '50s. 199 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,280 ROY: I thought, you know, Frank's more of a businessman 200 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,280 and Michael is a little nuts. 201 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:42,720 And the two together kind of in some ways made me think of Walt and my dad. 202 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,920 So we began saying, "How would you two like to take this job?" 203 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,160 There's been a management shake-up in the Magic Kingdom of Disney. 204 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,720 Two Hollywood studio executives have been chosen 205 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,560 to run Walt Disney Productions, 206 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,560 the first time outsiders have been brought in at the top. 207 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,400 The Disney board of directors chose Michael Eisner 208 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:01,960 of Paramount Pictures as chairman, 209 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,080 and Frank Wells of Warner Bros. as chief operating officer. 210 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,320 ROY: The first goal, really, of new management 211 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,760 is gonna be getting back in the movie business 212 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,760 in a very serious way, 213 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,800 in the sense of not only just making movies, 214 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,760 but coming up with new ideas. 215 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,640 Their partnership really made the company special. 216 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,320 There was this perception that Michael was a shoot-from-the-hip, 217 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:23,680 back-of-the-napkin kind of guy, 218 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,600 and Frank was very organized and ran things in an orderly manner. 219 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,440 But in many ways, it was the opposite. Michael was kind of the sane one. 220 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,760 And Frank, he did bold and crazy things, 221 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,600 like swimming oceans, climbing the great summits of the world 222 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,120 and calling at 3 a.m. to ask what Goofy's original name was. 223 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,040 Please welcome my mountain-climbing Disney teammate, Frank Wells. 224 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,600 I figured out from this employee forum what the difference is 225 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,120 between chief operating officer and chief executive officer. 226 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,800 Chief operating officer is in charge of doing dangerous things, 227 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,520 like when I have to fly here with Tinker Bell on a tiny wire. 228 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:56,120 Chief executive officer, he's in charge of funny. 229 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,480 Frank? 230 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,280 Hi, Michael. 231 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,200 ROY: I came back to the company in 1984 232 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,640 and, rather cavalier way at the time, said to Michael, 233 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,960 "Why don't you let me have the Animation Department, 234 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,480 because I may be the only guy right now, with all these new people coming in, 235 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,000 who at least understands the process and knows most of the people." 236 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,880 The state of the art at that moment was kind of waning 237 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,520 and the enthusiasm of the studio itself towards it had not been real strong. 238 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,160 So I just felt a little protective about it. 239 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,840 MINKOFF: And I was in John Musker's office. 240 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,520 And I think it was Steve Hulett came in 241 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:38,720 with the memo saying that Ron Miller had resigned. 242 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,720 And we were shocked and it was a huge bombshell to go off. 243 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:44,680 But I thought it was, you know, terrific news, 244 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,920 that maybe it meant that things were gonna actually get better at the studio. 245 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,400 And John, I think, felt the same way. He seemed pretty excited about it. 246 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:55,320 But Ron was worried, in a sort of melancholy mood, said, 247 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,240 "It could always get worse." 248 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,040 It was an invasion from Hollywood. 249 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,760 The parking lot was jammed with BMWs and Porsches. 250 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,400 And I remember interior decorators tearing down walls 251 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:07,120 that hadn't been touched since 1939. 252 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,440 New Berber carpeting replaced decades-old linoleum. 253 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,560 I couldn't figure out what's wrong with linoleum. 254 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,760 I mean, Walt Disney walked on that linoleum. 255 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,200 Even the snack machines were being torn out. 256 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,280 Goodbye, vending machines. 257 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,200 KEANE: I had no experience with Hollywood at that time. 258 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,880 My experience was with kindly old men with cardigan sweaters. 259 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,760 And they would sit around and pat you on the back. 260 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,720 And here's these guys hollering foul language in the middle of story meetings. 261 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,520 And a splash of cold water, suddenly a wake-up to reality. 262 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:39,720 You're in the real world here. 263 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,880 Hello. I'm Michael Eisner. 264 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,000 And welcome to The Disney Sunday Movie. 265 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,880 SAWYER: Michael Eisner is the irreverent kid from the Disney generation 266 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,960 who has taken over the toy store. 267 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,840 The money alone is right out of Fantasyland. 268 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,240 His salary and stock options are worth tens of millions of dollars. 269 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,600 He may look every inch the company chairman 270 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,880 when he is taping the introduction to The Disney Sunday Night Movie. 271 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,080 But in fact, he's having more fun than any other boy on the block. 272 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,080 Look, Mickey. Some of our friends are coming. 273 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,560 Hey, Minnie. 274 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,880 So one of the first things that Michael did as CEO 275 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,760 was to bring in Jeffrey Katzenberg, his colleague from Paramount, 276 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,560 to run the Film Division of Disney. 277 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,600 Jeffrey got his start in New York politics, 278 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,160 working in the office of Mayor John Lindsay, 279 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,880 where his affectionate nickname was Squirt. 280 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,600 At Paramount Pictures, 281 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,520 he studied in the shadow of Barry Diller and Michael Eisner. 282 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,440 And there his nickname was the Golden Retriever. 283 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,120 At Disney, he really had no nickname, 284 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,120 because this was the place where he could step out of the shadows 285 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,960 and make his mark on Hollywood. 286 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,480 EISNER: I sought him out at Paramount. 287 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,920 We'd worked together. He was just fantastic. 288 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,040 He was a worker. He was committed. He was obsessed. 289 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,680 He made relationships. 290 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,240 If we found somebody good, he would lasso him into our company. 291 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,480 He did it at Paramount and he did it at Disney and he did it great. 292 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,160 KATZENBERG: So I always remember my first day at Disney when I showed up 293 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,560 and I went to Michael's office and he said, 294 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,280 "Come here, I wanna show you something." 295 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,160 And I walked over and he was looking out his window. 296 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,920 And, you know, from his corner, 297 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,320 he pointed down to the Ink and Paint building. 298 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,360 He said, "Do you know what they do down there?" 299 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:17,600 And I said, "No." 300 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,920 He said, "That's where they make the animated movies." 301 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,040 I went, "Really?" He said, "Yes." And he said, "And that's your problem." 302 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,360 The first culture clash happened on a much-anticipated film 303 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,960 that was years in the making and millions over budget, 304 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,200 The Black Cauldron. 305 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,280 - He's overwhelmed. - He'd be jumping up and down. 306 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,960 - Jumping, clapping. - He'd be like: 307 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,640 The younger guys were really impatient and anxious to show what they could do, 308 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,520 but they felt like they were being held back 309 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,080 by the remnants of the old guard. 310 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,920 While the older guys thought the kids were brats and should get back to work. 311 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,320 In the case of The Black Cauldron, we started with five books 312 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,200 and had to condense them down into one. 313 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,520 KATZENBERG: In the first couple of weeks I was at the studio, 314 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,080 I saw The Black Cauldron. 315 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,800 It was a very dark movie and a very troubled movie. 316 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,240 "This is just way, way, way too violent and too scary. 317 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,040 You have to edit some of these things out." 318 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,240 They said, "Well, you can't edit an animated movie." 319 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,560 I said, "Well, of course you can." And they said, "No, you can't." 320 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:14,960 TARAN: Hey. No, you don't. 321 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,360 KATZENBERG: Honestly, you would think that 322 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,240 I was causing World War Three at the studio, 323 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,240 because I literally said, "Well, you get the film and bring it to an edit bay 324 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,560 and I'm gonna show you how you edit an animated movie." 325 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,720 I mean it. 326 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,760 Jeffrey was hands-on, elbows-on, sharp elbows-on. 327 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,640 You never knew if he was gonna hug you or kick you. 328 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:37,160 He said in an interview around that time, "We've got to wake up Sleeping Beauty." 329 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,880 Then Joe Hale, the producer of The Black Cauldron, was furious. 330 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,680 "Who are these guys?" he said. "Sleeping Beauty is awake." 331 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,240 He was fired not long after. 332 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,920 Black Cauldron cost $44 million to make 333 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,280 and made less than half that at the box office. 334 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,920 And, to add insult to injury, 335 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,200 it was beat out at the box office by The Care Bears Movie. 336 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,120 Oh! 337 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,440 That day, Disney Animation hit bottom. 338 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,960 - This is Ron Clements again. - Hello. 339 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:07,720 Explain a little bit about Basil of Baker Street. 340 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,000 KATZENBERG: One of the first things Roy did was he arranged one day 341 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,800 for us to be pitched the storyboards for the entire movie. 342 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,920 KATZENBERG: And for the better part of three hours, 343 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:35,320 literally the entire movie was pitched to us. 344 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,600 You go through one storyboard, then they bring another 345 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,280 and you'd sit there for hours and-- 346 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,400 I couldn't remember what was in the first storyboard. 347 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,400 It was a very hard process for me to deal with. 348 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,480 I'd been used to dealing in the script area. 349 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,480 KATZENBERG: So when it was over, we all sort of said, 350 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,480 "Thanks very much," and, "Great job." 351 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,000 And Michael said, "Walk back to my office with me." 352 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,040 So we walked back. On the way back to the office, 353 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,400 he said, "What do you think?" I said, "I have no idea." 354 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,960 [KATZENBERG LAUGHS] 355 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:01,520 And he said, "Neither do I." 356 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,520 I said, "Well, here's the thing. 357 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,320 We have 175 people and we're paying them every day to come to work. 358 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,760 And we're gonna pay them whether they make this movie 359 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,040 or they don't make this movie, so I guess we probably ought to make the movie." 360 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,920 And he says to me, "Well, that's exactly my feeling too." 361 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,680 The live-action business was booming and Jeffrey needed offices 362 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,280 for his new stable of stars, like Bette Midler and Robin Williams. 363 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,920 He wanted the animation building. 364 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,360 The news came down from the head of animation, Roy Disney, 365 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,160 announcing that the animators would have 366 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,200 to move out of the building and off the lot. 367 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,880 What was going on here? I mean, 368 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,760 this was the building where Walt Disney made Cinderella and Peter Pan, 369 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,360 and we were having to vacate? 370 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,880 All there was was this memo. 371 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,200 There was no meeting, no debate, just a memo. 372 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,760 I guess Roy didn't want the confrontation. 373 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,560 On our last day, 200 frightened people, 374 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,640 the remnants of Disney's once great Animation Studio, 375 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,960 gathered on the steps of the old Animation building 376 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:55,440 for one last photo before we left. 377 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,800 GABRIEL: So to carry that forward into the new building, 378 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,560 which was in Glendale, not a great area, 379 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,560 but the building itself was such a gutted wretch of a building, 380 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,920 with just cinder block and torn-up carpet and barbed wire around it 381 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:13,760 and broken bottles on the crummy little parking lot. 382 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,440 CARTWRIGHT: So, Ed, what are you doing nowadays? 383 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,320 I'm just emotionally under my desk. 384 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,080 Well, we were all pretty sure that we'd be fired in a week or so, 385 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,240 so we decided to celebrate the apparent end of Disney Animation 386 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,720 with a full-scale reenactment of Apocalypse Now. 387 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,880 [DRAMATIC CLASSICAL MUSIC PLAYING] 388 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,280 [SCREAMING] 389 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,280 We don't have long dark hallways anymore. We got cubicles. 390 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,600 The warehouse was an open plan, so you couldn't really hide. 391 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,600 It opened the place to frequent and spontaneous communications 392 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,520 in the hallways, in the men's room. 393 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,720 - Come on in. - Come on. 394 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,120 The barriers were down. 395 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:00,600 After the move, Jeffrey called a meeting of all the animators, 396 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,120 so the crew could air their questions and concerns. 397 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,400 So Jeffrey got up and said, "Give me your best shot. 398 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,600 Hit me in the solar plexus. Ask me anything. I've got rhino skin." 399 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,720 And somebody piped up and said, "We don't think you know what you're doing." 400 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,200 KATZENBERG: And I said, "Look, I'm here. I'm not going away. 401 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,400 And I'm more than happy to learn and take the time and be educated by you. 402 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,280 The fact is that the last couple of animated movies made 403 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:24,960 were not particularly good." 404 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:27,480 CLEMENTS: The animation meetings were usually scheduled, 405 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,760 a lot of times, at 6:00 in the morning. 406 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,320 And so, yeah, I remember driving to go to those meetings. 407 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,040 And then that sort of strange atmosphere at that time of the morning, 408 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,320 and hardly anyone is awake or around. 409 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,280 ROY: He began calling meetings for 8:00 in the morning on Sunday. 410 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,600 And I think it was about the second one, I was just angry. 411 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,640 Because it's just such a total sign of disrespect 412 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,000 for a lot of very talented people who are working their ass off for you. 413 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,880 And I said, "Jeffrey, we gotta have these meetings at some other time, 414 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,680 because I promise you, if you have another one of these things at 8 a.m., 415 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,760 I'm showing up in my pajamas." 416 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,440 - Aren't you proud of it, Mr. Disney? WALT: Why, I'm so proud, I think I'll bust. 417 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,200 ALLERS: I think it was right around the time of-- 418 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,640 The Oscars were-- It was just around the corner. 419 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,200 And he said, "You know, I'm not interested in the Academy Awards. 420 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:23,040 I'm interested in the Bank of America awards," you know. 421 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,880 "What the money these things pull in." 422 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,920 And it was just absolutely the worst thing to tell a room full of artists. 423 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,480 It was so discouraging. 424 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,480 ROY: Jeffrey, one day, he said to me, 425 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,200 "You really need to get your own Jeffrey Katzenberg." 426 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:41,880 And I began thinking and thinking, "You know, it's right. 427 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,560 I can't do this by myself and I'm not that talented anyway." 428 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,160 So the call I made was to Bob Fitzpatrick, 429 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:50,680 who was in the Olympic Arts Festival at the time. 430 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,440 He says, "I think I have somebody. I'll send him over to you. 431 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,800 His name is Peter Schneider." 432 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,840 SCHNEIDER: I was living in a small apartment with my wife and baby daughter, 433 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,320 and she said to me, "Go get a job," you know. 434 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,520 I was naive. I had no baggage, no preconceived notions. 435 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,440 I didn't care what had been done in the past. 436 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,440 I knew that I could do no worse than The Black Cauldron. 437 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,440 You know, you can't fall off the first floor. 438 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,600 Peter was given the title of vice president, 439 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,520 which, to the insurgent population of animators, made him the Man. 440 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,920 And the main weapon to fight the Man was the dreaded caricature. 441 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,200 PRUIKSMA: Well, Peter was kind of a scary thing, you know. 442 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,920 A small frame, wiry, and, you know, full of nervous energy. He was like, "Nyah." 443 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,120 TROUSDALE: He looked like he was about 15 years old. 444 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,680 He had this perpetual smile that everybody caricatured. 445 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,160 It was like this kind of wide-eyed, predatory smile that really worried people. 446 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,640 PRUIKSMA: You'd go into his office, 447 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,440 he would just sit all twisted up like a pretzel. It was odd. 448 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,800 And he had a little button that closed the door behind you when you went in. 449 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,640 When the door closed, you'd kind of look back 450 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,440 and see if there were scratch marks on it or something like that. Ha-ha-ha! 451 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,640 SCHNEIDER: When I got to Animation, I knew I had a hundred days 452 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,120 to change the culture before it changed me. 453 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,720 I was trying to empower people, 454 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,200 to make them feel good about themselves, to value the work. 455 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,960 I brought in some of my own people who'd worked for me in theater. 456 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,640 Kathleen Gavin, Maureen Donley, Tom Schumacher. 457 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,400 - Sticky buns. ANIMATORS: Sticky buns. 458 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,320 SCHNEIDER: I brought in Lakers coach Pat Riley 459 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,400 to talk about winning and teamwork. 460 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,840 Peter picked apart every piece of the production process. 461 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,160 Why are we punching time clocks? Why are we making our own paint? 462 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,400 Why can't we update our animation pegs? Why don't we have more computers? 463 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,680 What about training? 464 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,240 It had this feeling of a freight train leaving the station at light speed. 465 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,200 You better jump on or jump off fast. 466 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:33,920 Most people got on and it was a wild ride, an exciting time. 467 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,760 There was this team-sport mentality. 468 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,880 You can't play the game unless everybody is firing off on all cylinders. 469 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,160 Even second string, you were hungry to be part of this, to jump into the game. 470 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:45,240 There was an openness, a permission, almost, 471 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,360 to be critical about anything. Anything but the Marketing Department. 472 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,440 Marketing thought that the title Basil of Baker Street 473 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,200 was a real head-scratcher and they wanted to change it. 474 00:23:56,360 --> 00:24:00,360 So Peter sent off a memo announcing that they were changing the title to: 475 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,920 The Great Mouse Detective. 476 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:04,760 GABRIEL: The resistance was pretty fierce and we all started trying things 477 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,240 to get it to be our way and it wasn't gonna change. 478 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,440 One of the artists got the bright idea to send out a fake memo, in Peter's name, 479 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,920 saying that now all the Disney films will be renamed. 480 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,320 From now on, Snow White would become Seven Little Men Help a Girl. 481 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,600 And Pinocchio would be The Wooden Boy Who Became Real. 482 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,440 Peter saw the joke memo as undermining his authority 483 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,920 and demanded to know who wrote the memo. 484 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,240 The artists saw it as good clean fun and kept the author a secret. 485 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,720 They even sent it up to Jeffrey's office for added amusement. 486 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,400 GABRIEL: Peter, I think his tires were slashed 487 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,800 or somebody busted his window in his car in the lot. 488 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,440 Some, you know, really mature way to handle the situation. 489 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Peter came in and put us all in the screening room 490 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,000 and just tore us a new one. 491 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,240 TROUSDALE: That was the fabled triple-veiner that Peter had, 492 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,160 where, I mean, he was, like, levitating and glowing, he was so mad. 493 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,560 GABRIEL: I think after that meeting, we all kind of respected him. 494 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,080 What I love is he didn't say, 495 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,600 "Shut up. If you don't like it, there's the gate." 496 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,720 He said, "We're gonna make great films." 497 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,240 SCHNEIDER: And Jeffrey just laughed it off and said, "Don't even worry about it." 498 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,760 And I think that cemented my relationship with Jeffrey, in some weird way, 499 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,080 and also cemented my relationship with the artists. 500 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,920 And as a bonus, the memo even ended up as a category on Jeopardy! 501 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,480 TREBEK: And finally, In Other Words. 502 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,000 In Other Words came about as the result of a big foofaraw 503 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,000 that occurred at the Disney Studios last year 504 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,240 when the employees staged a minor revolt 505 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,760 when they changed the title of Basil of Baker Street 506 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,320 to The Great Mouse Detective. 507 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,920 In Other Words for 300. 508 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,600 TREBEK: "The girl with the see-through shoes." 509 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,160 - Marjorie. - Who is Cinderella? 510 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,480 TREBEK: Who is Cinderella? Good. 511 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,240 The Great Mouse Detective was released in 1986 to good reviews 512 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,800 and respectable box office. 513 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,160 But there was a new animation threat in town. 514 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,560 Steven Spielberg. 515 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,480 Steven loved the films of Walt Disney, so he jumped into the game, 516 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,920 teaming up with none other than Don Bluth, 517 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,960 the animator who kicked us when we were down. 518 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,160 That year, An American Tail quickly became 519 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,640 the highest-grossing non-Disney animated feature ever, 520 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,240 beating out The Great Mouse Detective by over $22 million. 521 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,320 ALLERS: Oliver-- 522 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,480 That's funny. 523 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,400 SCHNEIDER: When I first got there, Oliver and Company was being made. 524 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,600 It had two directors. 525 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,000 CARTWRIGHT: This is Rick Rich. - Hello. 526 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,480 CARTWRIGHT: This is George Scribner. SCHNEIDER: I fired Rick Rich, 527 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,840 who was belligerent to me, 528 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,120 and kept George Scribner, who sucked up to me. 529 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,040 It seemed like the right decision at the time. 530 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,920 People who like you get ahead. 531 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Peter brought his theatrical background to the animation business. 532 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,160 He demanded that filmmakers pick their own teams based on talent 533 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:37,680 and who they wanted to work with, not on some form of institutional seniority. 534 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,360 If you didn't have a strong point of view, you disappeared. 535 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,480 There was creative debate. You had to defend your ideas. 536 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,680 It meant that more drawings went into the trash than went up on the screen. 537 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,520 Throwaway drawings. The drawings we just throw away 538 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,560 - that don't mean anything. MAN: Tore it in half. 539 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,920 These are the ones that we didn't even use. 540 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:05,280 Revisions. Every line a writer changed, 100 drawings go in the trash. 541 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,520 [SOFT POP MUSIC PLAYING] 542 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,480 SAWYER: And because the family name is still the franchise, 543 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,080 the company still produces a few of those Disney animated features, 544 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,800 even though they cost a fortune to create. 545 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,440 The new one is an animated version of Oliver Twist, 546 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,160 with Billy Joel and Bette Midler doing the singing and barking and growling. 547 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,600 But the finished film may well require a half-million frames, 548 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,720 each one drawn by an artist at a total cost of more than $10 million, 549 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,800 more than it can make back anytime soon. 550 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,120 Can you really afford 551 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,080 to do what you wanna do in animation as much as you wanna do? 552 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,560 The answer is no, but we're doing it anyway. 553 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,120 - We have to do it in this company. - Have to? 554 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,240 We have to. That is our legacy. 555 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,080 WOMAN: The animation area, the full-length animation, 556 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,920 you have made a promise to do one film a year. Is that it? 557 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,600 - Well, Roy made it, so I'm-- - We jointly made that one. 558 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:07,200 Yeah, it's our intent to make a new one every year. 559 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,760 Oliver will be the first in that group. 560 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,840 And Little Mermaid, the following year, is on schedule 561 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,320 to be released a year from now. And we think we can do it. 562 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,560 We're accumulating more and more and better artists 563 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,960 and certainly more and more experience as we go. 564 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,680 Helping to feed the coffers in a big way was a machine called the VCR 565 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,360 that could actually play movies from a cassette tape 566 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,240 in your own living room. 567 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,400 PAULEY: The releasing of Pinocchio in video, 568 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,200 Disney was never gonna do that. 569 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,720 I thought that was carved in granite 570 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,320 that they would be held in storage for seven years and then released carefully. 571 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,560 How was the decision made to put them out in video? 572 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,480 I don't think there's been any more careful decision than we have reached. 573 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,760 And we have reached it so far only in respect to the one classic, Pinocchio. 574 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,240 It's out now this summer. It's doing very well. 575 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,960 It's only after that that we'll slowly decide what to do with the rest of it. 576 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:09,160 And after all, a video release this summer hardly is gonna affect Pinocchio 577 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,080 when it's released theatrically another seven years from now. 578 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,680 Pinocchio went out as a trial balloon and made millions. 579 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,520 It was like a license to print money, since there were no costs for the old titles. 580 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,320 But that immediately upped the ante to get more titles into the pipeline. 581 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,000 So to find these new titles, anybody, artists, secretaries, janitors, 582 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,840 could come in and pitch their ideas in a gong show. 583 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,120 Some ideas, like Pocahontas, 584 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,920 were green-lit from a single drawing and a title. 585 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,320 Others, like Little Mermaid, were gonged at first, 586 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,280 because it was too much like Splash, but came back later. 587 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,560 And there were all sorts of projects being green-lit. 588 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,880 A sequel idea called Rescuers Down Under, set in Australia. 589 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,320 Prince And The Pauper, starring Mickey Mouse. 590 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,800 And an old shelved project 591 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,200 that Walt Disney himself considered back in the 1940s, Beauty and the Beast. 592 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,880 SAWYER: Not only does the ghost of Walt Disney, the creative genius, 593 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,560 keep Eisner awake at night. 594 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,400 When he first came to the company, 595 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,800 he discovered that executives routinely made decisions by asking, 596 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,320 "What would Walt have done?" 597 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,880 ROY: To a certain extent, people, somebody, would surely have said, 598 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,720 "Walt probably wouldn't have done that." 599 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,240 We needed to break that cycle 600 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,560 and we needed to get out into the whole town. 601 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,200 The argument that says, "Some dead guy is trying to run your operation." 602 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,760 You can't do that. 603 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,520 I don't think Disney is like the constitution. 604 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,920 I don't think we have to preserve it and put it in glass. 605 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,240 I think it's a growing-- And if it's not growing, it's gonna die. 606 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,600 Our name is a fantastic asset 607 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,760 and it represents a terrific man who was very creative. 608 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,920 And I'd hate to be the person who shot himself in the foot and ended it. 609 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,800 I don't wanna leave that legacy. I'd like to keep it going. 610 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,320 But I'd like to add to it. I'd like to have new things. 611 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,880 What do you worry about? 612 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,440 Shooting myself in the foot. 613 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,960 [JAPANESE POP MUSIC PLAYING] 614 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,880 MICHAEL: Disney's net profits tripled since 1983 and the stock price is up five-fold. 615 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,280 Disney people are proud to call themselves a Mickey Mouse operation. 616 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,480 According to most analysts, the magic returned 617 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,160 with the appointment of Frank Wells as president of the company 618 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,800 and Michael Eisner as chairman. 619 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,480 Under Eisner and Wells, the new Touchstone Movie Division 620 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,360 became a production powerhouse, 621 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,320 turning out such hits as Down and Out in Beverly Hills, 622 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,320 Ruthless People, The Color of Money, 623 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,200 and what amounts to a farm club for feature filmmakers, 624 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,880 The Disney Sunday Movie. 625 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,880 1987 is off to a promising start with the addition 626 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,360 of the Michael Jackson attraction, Captain EO, 627 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,160 and the Disney/George Lucas collaborative adventure, Star Tours. 628 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,200 The live-action movies, the parks, the merchandise were all on fire, 629 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,640 but Animation, 630 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,520 well, we still seemed like a stepchild. 631 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,000 KEANE: And I gotta say, I was very nervous about where we were heading, 632 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,120 where was the future of Disney going. 633 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,080 It seemed to be being driven by a maniac at the wheel, 634 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,880 in terms of Jeffrey, with his heavy foot on the accelerator, 635 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,040 driving full speed in a very crowded city. 636 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,320 - Action. - Aaaggh! 637 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,040 An old development project called Who Framed Roger Rabbit 638 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,640 shifted into hyper-drive when Steven Spielberg became interested. 639 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,480 You know, I have been influenced profoundly 640 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,240 by the films of Walt Disney, 641 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,520 especially the films from the '30s, '40s and right through the '50s. 642 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:27,040 And I really feel that this is a movie that we're making for Walt. 643 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,640 Back to the Future director Robert Zemeckis 644 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,680 was signed to direct Roger Rabbit. 645 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,320 Bob and Steven made up the creative team on the film, 646 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,560 while Jeffrey watched the purse strings. 647 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:42,720 We always wanted the Disney technique, the beautiful Disney animation, 648 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,200 the great Warner Bros. characterization. 649 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,560 Yes? 650 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,200 ZEMECKIS: And Tex Avery humor. 651 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,960 You know, dynamite-down-your-pants type stuff. 652 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,880 And the rabbit's like-- Doesn't wanna go back in and Hoskins... 653 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,720 It was a trifecta of elements 654 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,800 that Bob knew he couldn't get from the Disney Animation Department, 655 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,920 so he turned to animation veteran Richard Williams 656 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,560 to animate the movie in London, 657 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,160 and Peter sent me to London to ride herd on the animation. 658 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,280 It was a real stomach punch for the guys back in Burbank, 659 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,560 but the truth was nobody really thought much of Disney Animation back then. 660 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,480 The combination of Spielberg, Zemeckis and Dick Williams 661 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,760 was like a talent magnet 662 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,800 and animators from all over the world just flocked to the project. 663 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,040 So now there was a unit in Burbank and one in London. 664 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,560 And Peter would travel back and forth to rattle everybody's cage. 665 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,760 When he was in London, 666 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,880 he'd say how great the guys in Burbank were doing on The Little Mermaid. 667 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,120 Then back in Burbank, 668 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,760 he'd brag about how great the guys on Roger Rabbit were doing. 669 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,800 Nobody had attempted a movie like this before, 670 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,200 and the budget just soared. 671 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,280 It got so heated that Jeffrey summoned us all to New York 672 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,680 to tell us that we did not have one more dime to spend on this movie. 673 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,440 No more money. 674 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,440 Then we all took limos, helicopters to the airport to fly Concorde back to London. 675 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,120 He spent all this money on a meeting to tell us we had no money. 676 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,120 - Animation... - It was a very Hollywood moment. 677 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,200 Back home, Jeffrey was getting beat up by Michael about the costs. 678 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,360 EISNER: We just had to put a financial box around all this creativity. 679 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,800 And without that, the end result would have been complete chaos. 680 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,760 KATZENBERG: It created a tremendous amount of friction 681 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,040 and difficulty between Michael and I, 682 00:34:17,240 --> 00:34:19,520 not because he didn't believe in the movie. He did. 683 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,680 Financially it just became so expensive. 684 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,160 And Michael, who is fundamentally conservative, 685 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,800 just got very, very uncomfortable with it. 686 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,680 Cut. Let's do it again. 687 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,680 KATZENBERG: And I was unable to control it. 688 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,840 Who Framed Roger Rabbit is one of those home runs 689 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,640 that Hollywood hits every once in a while. 690 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,560 It's a movie like 2001 or Close Encounters or especially like E.T. 691 00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:53,080 that's a technical breakthrough and a lot of fun both at the same time. 692 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,440 Roger Rabbit made headlines 693 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,840 and won Oscars for technical innovation and returned just millions to the studio. 694 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,400 The top talent on Roger was shipped back to Burbank 695 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,440 and put to work on Oliver and Company and Little Mermaid. 696 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,280 It was like an injection of fresh, young, international talent 697 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,360 that would pay dividends for years to come. 698 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,200 Six months later, Oliver and Company opened 699 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,560 on the same day as Spielberg's Land Before Time. 700 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,880 Come on. Let's eat him! 701 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,520 SCRIBNER: Well, by the end of the three or four months, 702 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,120 we'd made 55, 56, 54. 703 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,280 And we beat Land Before Time and it was like-- 704 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,880 I think a lot of people were like, "Hey, there's something-- 705 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,560 There's something here." 706 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,440 The chaos that Roy ushered in when he hired Michael was starting to pay off 707 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,880 and suddenly everybody was happy to be associated with Toontown. 708 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,080 INTERVIEWER: This is the first fairy tale that Disney has done 709 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:53,000 MAN: Take two. - in the last 30 years, three decades. 710 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,680 Why was Mermaid chosen? 711 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,560 Well, I mean, it was chosen because we all went to a lunch 712 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,880 about three or four years ago and all of us-- 713 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,880 It was sort of a development-type thing. 714 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,360 And we were supposed to come in with our three ideas. 715 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,760 I don't know if you can use any of this, but this is sort of more the truth than, 716 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,960 you know, what we may wind up saying later. 717 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,000 And basically they wanted to draw on different ideas. 718 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,440 And one of the ideas that Ron brought in was The Little Mermaid. 719 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,280 He had-- That was one of his three. 720 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,720 Jeffrey's friend David Geffen 721 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,480 called him about a songwriting team, Howard Ashman and Alan Menken, 722 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,920 that he'd worked with on the off-Broadway hit Little Shop of Horrors. 723 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,120 Peter had worked with them on the same show as company manager, 724 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,080 so he brought them in to work on The Little Mermaid. 725 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,720 SCHNEIDER: Howard was just coming off a terrible disappointment 726 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,720 when his musical Smile crashed and burned on Broadway. 727 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,960 He came to Los Angeles to start over again. 728 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,440 Howard wasn't exactly the first guy who sprang to mind when you said Disney. 729 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,800 He was born into a Jewish family in Baltimore, 730 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,120 where he grew up on-stage in the local Children's Theater Association. 731 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,120 He was gay, edgy, and loved musicals, especially Peter Pan. 732 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,760 When I was approached with an opportunity 733 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,960 to work for Disney, period, I leapt at the-- 734 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,160 I said, "What about Animation? What about working in that department?" 735 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,160 That was what I really wanted to do here, 736 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,480 much, much more than anything, really, in live-action. 737 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,480 Because I'm really a musical-theater person 738 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,840 and I do see a very, very strong connection between these two media. 739 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,240 We had this character in the original treatment, the script. 740 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,200 It was a crab character that was kind of-- Would be-- 741 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,160 Sort of look after the mermaid 742 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,480 and try to keep her out of trouble and watch over her. 743 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,800 He was kind of a crusty, old, 744 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,960 - crotchety character - The king's right-hand guy. 745 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,120 who worked for the king and was like the conductor in the undersea world. 746 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,440 Howard said, "Why not make him Jamaican?" 747 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,240 And our first reaction was, "Jamaican?" 748 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,680 I mean, it was like a total twist on what we were thinking. 749 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,040 He rounds up all of these fish and all of this stuff 750 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,560 to convince Ariel not to try to become human. 751 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,520 And they more or less put on a show for her 752 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,400 by playing all these instruments and themselves. 753 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,560 Okay, we hear it start. 754 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,880 He starts establishing the rhythm. 755 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:12,800 The clams pick it up, and oysters, and he's beating on lobsters, whatever. 756 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,200 It's all percussive 757 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,720 and it's all the undersea world making the percussion. 758 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,880 [PERCUSSIVE MUSIC PLAYING OVER SPEAKERS] 759 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,280 KATZENBERG: There was electricity in the air. 760 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,160 I mean, there was real genius at work and people knew it. 761 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,440 [SINGING] 762 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,600 Howard, in a salesmanship way, I think, 763 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,280 trying to treat it sort of a little more off-the-cuff, 764 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,760 but I think he had written all the songs five minutes after he got the treatment, 765 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,800 but said, "Now, here, say you had a song, 766 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,520 say it was called 'Part of Your World.' 767 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,240 It could be anything, but say it was called 'Part of Your World'." 768 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,360 And then he had a-- And Alan-- 769 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,600 We were in Howard's apartment in Greenwich Village and it was-- 770 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,920 Alan came over and played it on the piano. 771 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,800 And Howard sang it right there and it sounded great. 772 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,720 [ASHMAN AND MENKEN SINGING SOFT POP MUSIC] 773 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,040 So really try to work with just the intensity. 774 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:31,080 It's like it's about all that emotion and then not letting it all out. 775 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:34,280 - Not letting it out. - Not letting it out, but having it here. 776 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,280 [SINGING] 777 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,840 That stuff. Really, it's-- 778 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,480 - Am I still a little too loud? - You're great. 779 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:43,960 - Better that time? - You're great. 780 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,960 But you're right, it gets a little bright here. 781 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,800 [SINGING] 782 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,320 The intensity is better than-- 783 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,840 [SINGING LOUDLY] 784 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,160 - Is better than noise. - Than Ethel Merman, right. 785 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,960 But you're not doing Ethel Merman. It's inner intensity, though. 786 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,000 ASHMAN: In almost every musical ever written, 787 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,480 there's a place, it's usually the third song of the evening. 788 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,000 Sometimes it's the second, sometimes it's the fourth, but it's quite early. 789 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,560 And the leading lady usually sits down on something, 790 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,920 sometimes it's a tree stump in Brigadoon, 791 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,400 sometimes it's under the pillars of Covent Garden in My Fair Lady, 792 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,560 or it's a trash can in Little Shop of Horrors. 793 00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:21,600 But the leading lady sits down on something 794 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,160 and sings about what she wants in life 795 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,240 and the audience falls in love with her 796 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,360 and then roots for her to get it for the rest of the night. 797 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,360 [SINGING] 798 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,520 KEANE: I heard "Part of Your World," Jodi Benson singing that, 799 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,360 and it just captivated me. I thought, "I have to do that." 800 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,600 And I went and told those guys, "I really wanna do Ariel." 801 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,640 And they said, "Whoa, I don't know. 802 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,360 This is supposed to be a pretty girl. Can you do that?" 803 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,040 I said, "Look, I have to do Ariel. 804 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,040 I can feel it in my heart." 805 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,680 MUSKER: We were previewing for schoolkids. 806 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,400 And so the kids-- 807 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,560 During that screening, a lot of the movie was in black and white. 808 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,400 Certainly "Part of Your World," a lot of it was in story sketches. 809 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,880 KATZENBERG: And the movie comes up on its feet 810 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,480 and we get to "Part of Your World" 811 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,520 and it's just not connecting. 812 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,880 The audience is restless. 813 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,560 I came out of that and just said, "Don't think this is working." 814 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:26,400 MUSKER: So Jeffrey was bound and determined to cut "Part of Your World." 815 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,920 It was just like, "Guys, face reality, you know. 816 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,400 It's not working, it's not there. We gotta do something." 817 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,600 And we pleaded our case. He wouldn't listen to us. 818 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,160 Howard pleaded his case. 819 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,480 KATZENBERG: Howard Ashman said, "Over my dead body. I'll strangle you." 820 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,680 MUSKER: But finally Glen Keane went to Jeffrey and said, 821 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,840 "Jeffrey, you cannot cut this. 822 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,760 You're crazy. This is the heart of the movie. 823 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,240 It's her whole dream. 824 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,920 And to cut that will really gut our emotional involvement with our heroine." 825 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,080 KATZENBERG: He persuaded me that the issue wasn't the song, 826 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,600 but other things that were not firing up yet in the sort of rhythm of the movie. 827 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,600 And ultimately he was right. Not only did it stay in the movie, 828 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,800 but it's one of the more memorable moments in the movie. 829 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000 MICHAEL: The sparkle is coming back to Sleeping Beauty's castle. 830 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,440 Over the last five years, the Disney Animation Department 831 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,960 has grown from a low of 150 artists to its current level of nearly 550, 832 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,120 doing animation the old-fashioned way, 833 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,240 from character sketch, to pencil test, to ink and paint, to the screen. 834 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,800 What The Little Mermaid represents, I hope, 835 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,160 is kind of a renaissance period for the artists themselves. 836 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,480 SCHNEIDER: Jeffrey started discovering Animation 837 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,080 as a place where he could be artistic, a powerhouse in the editing room, 838 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,280 and where he could be the frontman to the press. 839 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,720 I think he realized something very important to his future. 840 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:43,040 "I'm good at this. This is fun, it's mine and it doesn't include Michael." 841 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,280 The press on Little Mermaid was just spectacular. 842 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,360 And the box office, well, was even better than Oliver and Company. 843 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,640 And there were loads of toys, books, puzzles and lunch boxes 844 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,480 that just flew off the shelves. 845 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,840 Animation had a big hit on its hands. 846 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,880 SCHNEIDER: Jeffrey and Michael started focusing on, 847 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,360 "Oh, if we have more titles, it'll be better financially." 848 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,160 And I always fought for, 849 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,360 "Can you take some of those resources and put them back into the business?" 850 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,360 Which was where CAPS came from, 851 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,440 CAPS being the Computer Animation Postproduction System. 852 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,600 One of the technology guys, Lem Davis, thought we could use computers 853 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,560 to paint the characters in our films and digitally assemble all the artwork. 854 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:26,000 That gives us not only the opportunity to do some really good art, 855 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,040 but it also gives us the opportunity to really begin to explore 856 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,400 what these computers and graphics things can do for us 857 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,360 in kind of shorter pieces where we can get really a little crazy. 858 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,200 And I'm looking forward to all of us getting a little crazy. 859 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,680 Roy went to Frank Wells with a proposal to spend $10 million 860 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,280 on a computer system that might not return a dime, 861 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,800 but would revolutionize the look of our films. 862 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,200 ROY: So I just walked down the hall and stood there in Frank's doorway. 863 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,400 Frank looks up and says, "What are you doing here?" 864 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,320 And I said, "I'm just here to make sure you sign that check, Frank." 865 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,560 Frank's check was handed to Alvy Ray Smith, 866 00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:02,600 the co-founder of a small computer-graphics firm 867 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,480 that experimented with character animation 868 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,320 and made Listerine commercials on the side to make ends meet. 869 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,840 It was called Pixar. 870 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,240 The CAPS computer was thrown into production on Rescuers Down Under. 871 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,760 It was unchartered territory. 872 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,320 The crew from Disney and Pixar worked around the clock, sleeping on pallets, 873 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,080 nursing those computers with duct tape and chewing gum, 874 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,840 and the deadlines and quotas never stopped. 875 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,920 No, you don't want to hear my thoughts. You don't want to hear my thoughts. 876 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,160 SCHUMACHER: What I remember most of that period was feeling so brokenhearted 877 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,760 that we had attempted to make a feature film using the CAPS system 878 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,680 before anyone had even made a short with it. 879 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,760 We had never tested the system before we committed 880 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,720 to a release date to make a movie. 881 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,360 KIMBALL: And it's 3:00 in the morning. 882 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,600 Peter Schneider walks in and looks over at me and goes, 883 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,680 "Well, is it working yet? Is it working yet?" Ha-ha-ha. 884 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,680 And it's like, "Oh, I don't need this pressure." 885 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,600 GABRIEL: My first film, Rescuers Down Under, came out. 886 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,600 Phone rings at like 8 in the morning. "Mike?" "Yeah." "Jeffrey." 887 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,680 "Yeah. So, what's going on? What's the numbers?" 888 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,280 He said, "Made 5 million. It's over." 889 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,760 "Well, excuse me, what?" 890 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,520 "It's over. Forget it. Move on." 891 00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:11,640 SCHUMACHER: Jeffrey pulled all the TV advertising. 892 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:16,640 And I said, "Jeffrey, I just can't believe that. You've pulled it? 893 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,400 There's no advertising, nothing?" 894 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,000 And he said, "Tom, the movie just doesn't work. It's over." 895 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,960 And I started to cry on the telephone. 896 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,920 And then he said, "It's okay. 897 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,960 We're gonna move forward and we'll do something else. 898 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,280 Are you okay?" 899 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,760 I said, "I'm all right." He goes, "Okay, we'll start again tomorrow." 900 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,160 And then he hung up the phone. 901 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,000 Rescuers was the very first digital movie produced in Hollywood. 902 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,800 And without it we would never have achieved what would come later. 903 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,000 [BIRD CRIES] 904 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,600 Beauty and the Beast was up next 905 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,160 and the budget and schedule were cut way, way back. 906 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,600 SCHNEIDER: We asked Richard Williams to direct the film, but Williams declined 907 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,160 and recommended one of his protégés, Richard Purdum, to direct instead. 908 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,160 Purdum was a very successful commercial director based in the U.K. 909 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,000 MAN: Yeah. KEANE: And then the horse rises up 910 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,520 - right underneath him. - Yeah. 911 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,320 KEANE: Now he's riding on the rear end of the horse, 912 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,880 hanging on to the horse's tail, 913 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,600 and one of the wolves grabs up right onto the tail, yanks the horse, 914 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,720 and the horse rears up and throws the guy off 915 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,120 and the guy lands on the back of the wolf, riding on the wolf. 916 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,480 It was my first job as producer and I wanted to get everything just right. 917 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,520 So I recruited a commando story team of Disney artists 918 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:33,880 and we moved to London to set to work on a non-musical version of the story. 919 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,040 After about six months, we took the first 20 minutes of the film 920 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,480 to screen for Jeffrey. 921 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,800 WOMAN [ON FILM]: Has my niece given you an answer? 922 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:46,120 MAN: Um, not yet. I think she's playing the coquette with me. 923 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,720 WOMAN: Forgive her. 924 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,280 HAHN: It wasn't perfect, but what was the worst that could happen? 925 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,720 They weren't gonna scrap it and start over again. That would be just insane. 926 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,120 It didn't work at all for us, so we literally scrapped it, 927 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,920 the first 20 minutes of the movie, and started all over again. 928 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,960 SCHNEIDER: Richard Purdum worked for a few more months on Beauty and the Beast, 929 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,600 and when it became clear that we would never make his version of the movie, 930 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,920 he resigned. 931 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,400 I recruited two young story artists to be the acting directors 932 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,440 and moved the entire project back to the warehouses in Burbank. 933 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,640 The spotlight kind of turned on me and Gary, 934 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,240 which struck us as incredibly odd, because-- 935 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,240 The spotlight turned on us like when you turn on the kitchen light 936 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,840 and the roaches are on the floor. We were like, "What?" 937 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,560 [BOTH LAUGHING] 938 00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:28,720 We didn't get away in time and they caught us. 939 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,440 So we were made kind of the acting directors of Beauty and the Beast, 940 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,480 - which meant-- - We had to act like directors. 941 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,000 Meanwhile, back in California, Jeffrey threw his annual beach party. 942 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,760 SCHNEIDER: And there was Tom Cruise and Bette Midler and Robin Williams, 943 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,520 all on the beach at Jeffrey's house. 944 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,480 And I remember being there with Howard Ashman, 945 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,560 because after Little Mermaid, Howard asked to go work 946 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,480 on this other thing he was desperate to do for Disney called Aladdin, 947 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,440 at exactly the same time Beauty and the Beast 948 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,200 was sort of falling apart in London. 949 00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,120 Jeffrey buttonholed Howard, as only he can, 950 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,120 and convinced Howard to write the songs for Beauty and the Beast 951 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,880 even though Howard didn't really want to. 952 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,440 WISE: Well, we got a phone call from our boss. 953 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,800 "We want you to meet with Howard and Alan and the whole creative team 954 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,960 and Beauty and the Beast is gonna become a musical." We couldn't believe it. 955 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,680 So we ended up setting up shop at the Residence Inn, upstate New York, 956 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,200 in Howard's neck of the woods. 957 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,040 And we started hashing stuff out and throwing around ideas. 958 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,360 Initially it was very, very collegial. It was very upbeat. 959 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,640 We were having a lot of fun. 960 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,720 But one of the things that was a sticking point, 961 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,040 something that we didn't agree on, was how to open the movie. 962 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,160 And Howard felt very passionately 963 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,680 that the movie should open with a fully animated prologue 964 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,160 that showed the Beast in his prince form, except he would be a little boy. 965 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,520 He'd be a naughty little boy. 966 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:50,000 And to Gary and I, we could not get past this Eddie Munster image, 967 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:55,320 you know, of this hairy little kid in Little Lord Fauntleroy pants. 968 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,240 To Howard, it seemed incredibly moving and tragic. 969 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:00,960 TROUSDALE: He was also very opinionated 970 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,840 and very articulate and very intimidating. 971 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,160 And so we were scared of him. It's like, "Okay, we gotta do this." 972 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:12,720 WISE: And so, you know, like the stupid, naive, 26-year-old kid that I was, 973 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,640 I opened the meeting with, 974 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:20,040 "We think that the little Beast boy is kind of a cheap shot." 975 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,080 And I think the word "cheap" really set Howard off. 976 00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:26,960 TROUSDALE: And his mouth was a very tight line 977 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,720 and his eyes were getting kind of bigger. 978 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,320 WISE: I just saw the clouds darken. 979 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,440 I just saw his face darken. 980 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,640 And he just ripped into us like I've never been ripped into before. 981 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,480 And no one leapt to my defense, may I just add. 982 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,680 [WISE LAUGHS] 983 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,720 Thank you very much. 984 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,960 And the Oscar goes to: 985 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,080 [MOORE PANTING] 986 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,560 Alan Menken, Howard Ashman 987 00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:55,240 for "Under the Sea" from The Little Mermaid. 988 00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,160 MENKEN: Oscar night, we won at least three Oscars between the two of us. 989 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,440 He said, "When we get back to New York, we really have to talk." 990 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,320 And so that was, what, a Monday night. 991 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,080 I think he was back by Thursday morning. 992 00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:10,200 I came in and he just told me. 993 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,120 I said, you know, "What is it?" And he said, "Well, I guess you know." 994 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,440 I didn't, or I didn't let myself. He said, "I guess you know. 995 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,200 I'm HIV-positive." 996 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,440 I think, or he maybe said, "I'm sick," or something. 997 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,680 And I-- It was not what I wanted to hear. 998 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,760 [MENKEN SINGING INDISTINCTLY] 999 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,480 It seems like something falls out a little bit there. 1000 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,960 FRIEDMAN: On, "sing you off to sleep"? 1001 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,800 - Or should I have been up on that? MENKEN: Yes. 1002 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,160 [FRIEDMAN SINGING] 1003 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,520 MENKEN: You're very strong. 1004 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,760 [BOTH SINGING] 1005 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,000 Something needs to take off there-- 1006 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,640 Well, I know David had felt that it had to build back in. 1007 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,400 I mean, I remember you saying that. 1008 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,520 That you didn't feel you should jump right into tempo. 1009 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,840 TROOB: Right. - Do you want it to get faster sooner? 1010 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,040 - You're asking-- - No. 1011 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,360 - He's building into it. - This is not a tempo question. 1012 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,600 [FRIEDMAN SINGING] 1013 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:02,840 - David-- - I know. 1014 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,720 - The melody, it's neat. It's really pretty. - Oh, good, good. 1015 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,680 So you don't have to scream to get over it. 1016 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,400 Well, we're separate tracks, aren't we? 1017 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,920 True. I just if wonder what you're hearing in your cans-- 1018 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,720 Yeah, I'll play it up and play it down. 1019 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,800 - We'll see which is better. - Great. Great. 1020 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:24,640 And similarly we should get at least one on this build section. 1021 00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:27,240 [SINGING] 1022 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,280 ROY: He was an amazing influence on everybody. 1023 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,160 And I don't want to compare him to Walt, 1024 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,920 but on the other hand, he had that kind of influence on everybody. 1025 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,080 Before Beauty and the Beast was finished, we threw a big dog-and-pony show 1026 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,760 for the New York press where we showed some clips from the film 1027 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,640 and Alan sang some of the songs. 1028 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,560 KATZENBERG: I don't think we could have ever imagined 1029 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:54,640 a more enraptured reception to the movie and the songs. 1030 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,480 And we all were very excited about the idea of sharing this with Howard. 1031 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,800 We wanted him to hear the news. 1032 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,400 SCHNEIDER: And then we all jumped in a cab and we raced downtown 1033 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,160 to St. Vincent's. 1034 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,080 We rushed from the press presentation, 1035 00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:12,720 which, as rough as it was, was a huge success. 1036 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,480 We were high from it and we came into the cold shock 1037 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,480 of Howard dying in a hospital room. 1038 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,240 His mother pulled back the sheets to show us 1039 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,320 the Beauty and the Beast sweatshirt that he was wearing. 1040 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:30,600 He was 80 pounds, had lost his sight and barely had a whisper of a voice. 1041 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,480 We shared with him what happened that day and how amazing it was. 1042 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,240 And how he was there in every way. 1043 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,560 Then, when it was time to leave, we said our goodbyes. 1044 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,960 Before I left, I bent over and whispered, 1045 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,760 Beauty and the Beast was gonna be a great success. 1046 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,080 "Who'd have thought it?" I said. 1047 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:53,080 And Howard lit up and whispered, "I would have." 1048 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,200 [BELLE SOBBING] 1049 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,960 COOK: Gary Kalkin, who was running Publicity at the time, had a brilliant idea, 1050 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:32,360 a scary idea, a dangerous idea that perhaps an unfinished 1051 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,560 work-in-progress screening of Beauty and the Beast 1052 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,440 could be a part of the New York Film Festival. 1053 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,760 So we actually screened an unfinished version of the film 1054 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,680 and I think we were all on pins and needles. 1055 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,440 We all were sitting there holding our breath, 1056 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,160 because we didn't know what kind of reaction there would be. 1057 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,480 And there was almost-- When the movie ended, 1058 00:53:55,640 --> 00:54:00,320 it was almost a pause where you went, "1001, 1002," 1059 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,560 and then all of a sudden the place just erupted. 1060 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:18,480 WISE: I remember just being absolutely slack-jawed, stunned, knocked over, 1061 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,840 goggle-eyed with astonishment. 1062 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,520 They applauded like they were at a live Broadway show. 1063 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,640 And I had never seen anything like that in my life. 1064 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,040 It was an emotional roller coaster back home. 1065 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,680 Beauty and the Beast had thousands of drawings left to go. 1066 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,040 Aladdin was grinding through intense story changes 1067 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,840 that left three of Howard's songs on the cutting-room floor. 1068 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,040 And Tim Rice was brought in to finish up the lyrics on the new songs. 1069 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,080 The work was intense, the hours were long 1070 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:53,800 and there was only one thing that could stop it all: margaritas. 1071 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,920 [PLAYING FLAMENCO MUSIC] 1072 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,480 [SINGING IN SPANISH] 1073 00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,320 I tried very much to put myself into this character. 1074 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,680 It was a way for everybody to decompress 1075 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,280 after the long hours and hideous meetings with Jeffrey. 1076 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,440 By this time, we spent more time with each other than with our families. 1077 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,440 I mean, this was our family. 1078 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,800 So we'd take a long break, have some chips and salsa, 1079 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,240 and with a little cheerleading from Peter, we'd get back on the horse. 1080 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,360 It's great. This crew is the best crew. It's fabulous. 1081 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,800 - Not very sincere, was it? WOMAN: No. 1082 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,440 HAHN: Credit was always an issue, 1083 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,680 and it seemed that everyone was either taking credit 1084 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,760 or not getting credit or not giving credit. 1085 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,520 And the people who really deserved the credit were being overlooked. 1086 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,320 MAN: And, action. 1087 00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,800 Hi, I'm Jeffrey Katzenberg, chairman of the Walt Disney Studios. 1088 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,960 At Disney, when we set out to make an animated feature, 1089 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,160 the first thing we look for is a very special story 1090 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,120 and unforgettable characters. 1091 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,640 And that's just what Beauty and the Beast is, 1092 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,840 a great story with unforgettable characters. 1093 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,040 MAN: Cut. 1094 00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:34,640 EISNER: I didn't care about credit. I didn't care about any of that. 1095 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,480 I had plenty of my own adulation from places I didn't even want it. 1096 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,320 The more Jeffrey promoted himself, 1097 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,160 as long as he promoted himself around an animated movie, I let it happen. 1098 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,400 Roy went nuts. 1099 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,280 Hello, my name is Roy Disney 1100 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,320 and it's my pleasure to introduce the home-video debut 1101 00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,160 of one of the greatest triumphs of my uncle Walt's filmmaking career: 1102 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,400 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. 1103 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,840 SCHNEIDER: There's always been that question, ever since Walt died: 1104 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,680 Who's the next Walt Disney? 1105 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,680 The media demands a central charismatic figure. 1106 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,400 And we demand it to sell our product. 1107 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,320 Hello, I'm Michael Eisner, chairman of The Walt Disney Company. 1108 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,760 All of us here at Disney hope you enjoyed the tour 1109 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,200 and that it gave you new insight 1110 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,760 into the magic of motion-picture and television production. 1111 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,720 We hope you come back and see us real soon. 1112 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,440 Whoa, whoa, what is now going on in the studio? 1113 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,520 KATZENBERG: Frank, of all of us, was the most selfless, 1114 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:33,040 and so he was able to navigate a course 1115 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,960 between strong and growing personalities and egos. 1116 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,080 And I always found Frank the peacemaker, you know, 1117 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,200 that he was like a marriage counselor. 1118 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,200 ROY: He was very much of a mediator. 1119 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,560 SCHNEIDER: He was the person you ran to when you had problems. 1120 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,200 EISNER: Interesting thing about Frank, he carried in his wallet 1121 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,280 a piece of paper that said, "Humility is the ultimate virtue." 1122 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,920 You get it from the top and you get it from the bottom 1123 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,600 and are often left floating somewhere in the middle 1124 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,760 trying to establish a sense of direction and purpose. 1125 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,560 It was a delicate balancing act that began to wobble 1126 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,520 on the night of the Beauty and the Beast premiere. 1127 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,400 But I am delighted to be the first, 1128 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,440 SCHNEIDER: At the cast-and-crew screening, 1129 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,600 there's tradition of everybody getting up and speaking 1130 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,440 and saying how great everything is. 1131 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,520 SCHNEIDER: Until that night, I don't think I was aware to the extent of the animosity 1132 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,640 between Michael, Roy and Jeffrey. 1133 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:22,600 ROY: Yeah, and I was sitting right in the very first row in the corner seat, 1134 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,520 looking up at him, saying, "Announce it, Michael." 1135 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,000 SCHNEIDER: And Michael stood up and said, 1136 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:31,560 "As part of the reward of this extraordinary growth, 1137 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,520 the amazing things you've all done, 1138 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,840 Frank and I have agreed to build a new Animation Building on the Disney lot." 1139 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,320 It was the first time Jeffrey had ever heard that. 1140 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,920 KATZENBERG: In the moment, I was enraged by it, because I felt, 1141 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,120 "Wow, what are these guys doing here?" 1142 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,840 It was inappropriate. 1143 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,200 And the subtext to that was much, much deeper 1144 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,680 than just the faux pas of announcing a building, 1145 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,240 you know, without having ever even discussed it with me. 1146 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,680 And it just showed very deep-seated unhappiness 1147 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,560 and competitiveness and ego. 1148 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,120 It was all about respect. 1149 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,120 That night, Jeffrey was looking for the respect 1150 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,040 he thought he'd earned from Roy and Michael, 1151 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:13,960 and it just wasn't there. 1152 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,080 Lightning has struck twice with Disney's Beauty and the Beast. 1153 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,360 I'm hard-pressed, had to go to the thesaurus 1154 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,240 to find all the applicable adjectives: 1155 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,440 Enchanting, bewitching, captivating, charming... 1156 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,800 Beauty and the Beast opened to huge box office 1157 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,080 and probably the most glowing reviews of any animated feature since Snow White. 1158 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,400 I've seen Beauty and the Beast twice with my children. 1159 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,680 I'm going to be back for more very soon. It's a winner. 1160 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,880 I was amazed how much I enjoyed this movie. 1161 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,640 I had heard reports that it played at the New York Film Festival 1162 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,000 - to a standing ovation - Right. 1163 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,160 - and I questioned those reports. - I did too. 1164 01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,720 I said, "I can't see the New York Film Festival standing up 1165 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,560 - and applauding anything." - Yeah. 1166 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,080 Then I saw this movie and I heard it interrupted by applause again. 1167 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,400 [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING] 1168 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:54,880 And the winner is: 1169 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,080 Before the Oscar nominations came the Golden Globes. 1170 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,120 Beauty and the Beast, 1171 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,880 Walt Disney Pictures, Buena Vista Pictures Distribution. 1172 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:06,440 When they announced our name, 1173 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,840 I was sitting at what had to have been the furthest table from the stage, 1174 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,400 back with the busboys and the valet-parking guys. 1175 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,440 But this was a validation from Hollywood that we'd never really seen before. 1176 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,240 And maybe, just maybe, 1177 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,280 this meant that animation was no longer at the kids' card table in the kitchen. 1178 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,440 We'd won the Bank of America award for Jeffrey 1179 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,920 and now the Golden Globe for the artists. 1180 01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,160 The icing on the cake was yet to come. 1181 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,400 Oh, thank you very much. 1182 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,600 A lot of animators just tossed their hot dogs and popcorn in the air at home. 1183 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,360 So you've made some people very, very happy. 1184 01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:40,560 [AUDIENCE LAUGHING] 1185 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,840 - I'm pleased to announce - Good. 1186 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,600 that the motion pictures selected 1187 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,960 as the Best Picture nominee of 1991 are: 1188 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:51,280 Beauty and the Beast, 1189 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:52,600 [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 1190 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,280 Don Hahn, producer. 1191 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,960 Beauty and the Beast got six nominations, including a nomination for Best Picture. 1192 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,000 Now that really sets a record here, because in the history of Disney, 1193 01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,240 Disney has only had Best Picture nominees twice, 1194 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,120 once for Mary Poppins and once for the Dead Poets Society. 1195 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,720 So that was a great honor for Beauty and the Beast. 1196 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,920 COOK: When we first heard that Beauty was nominated, 1197 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:18,000 it was like an electrical charge that went through the entire studio. 1198 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,200 WISE: I just came unglued. 1199 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,200 I did a dance around the house in my underwear. 1200 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,160 And my phone just rang for the rest of the day. 1201 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,800 Congratulatory messages and telegrams 1202 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,720 and boxes of candy were showing up at my door. 1203 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,160 It was nuts. 1204 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:32,560 I was queen for a day. 1205 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,920 We came to the Oscars in our rented tuxedos and fancy ball gowns 1206 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,560 and all I could think of was, "How did we get here?" 1207 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,720 And the Oscar goes to: 1208 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,720 [DRUMROLL PLAYING] 1209 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,360 The Silence of the Lambs. 1210 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,640 Well, we didn't win that night, but, boy, did we get invited to the ball. 1211 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,800 The next day, it was back to work. 1212 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:56,960 - Hi there. LASSETER: Hi, Ron. 1213 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,360 CARTWRIGHT: This is Ron Clements, once more. 1214 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,320 He moved out of his tiny little room. 1215 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,600 - What are you working on right now? LASSETER: Aladdin. 1216 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,320 These are sketches from Aladdin, another Academy Award winner. 1217 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,640 Who knows, you know? You'll know better a few years from now. 1218 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,040 KEANE: By the time Aladdin came, 1219 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:18,880 the animation marathon was really beginning to tell on the physical strength, 1220 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,080 I mean, just in terms of endurance. 1221 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,880 Now there was this, "Okay, how are you in the long run? 1222 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,560 Can you keep going?" 1223 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,520 Many of the artists had physical problems with their carpel tunnel syndrome. 1224 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:35,440 And I remember on one day, it was the Day of Atonement. 1225 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:39,240 Jeffrey came to the studio and asked everybody to sit down with him 1226 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,120 and just tell him what it was like to work with him. 1227 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:43,960 And he said, "Just be honest with me." 1228 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,640 People started to share what working at Disney Animation was really like. 1229 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:50,200 Some people couldn't have a family, 1230 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:55,440 because they really had no way of being able to raise kids in this kind of pressure. 1231 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,680 For me, holding a coffee cup, my hand would shake, 1232 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,520 was just shaking so badly, 1233 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,600 because I'd been animating the whole night before. 1234 01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,560 It was the only time that I had seen Jeffrey with a tear in his eyes 1235 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:13,120 from just being moved by what he was pushing the artists to do. 1236 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,640 And he said, "This is not right. You have to have a life." 1237 01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,440 Nothing changed. In fact, it got busier. 1238 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,640 And it would have been easy to blame Jeffrey or Michael for pushing hard, 1239 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,120 because they were, but, you know, 1240 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,600 the truth is that the artists were pushing just as hard. 1241 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,800 The rewards were pouring in, so we all kept trying to top ourselves. 1242 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,560 Suddenly, there were bonuses 1243 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,000 and the parking lot was just full of BMWs and Porsches. 1244 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,360 We were getting a new building 1245 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,720 and people were getting lawyers and agents and appearing on talk shows. 1246 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,280 You always look into somebody's eyes 1247 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,200 and if you're going to make a mistake in the drawing, 1248 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,120 - don't let it be in the eyes. GIBSON: Right. 1249 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:48,480 KEENE: That's where everybody's reading it. 1250 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,320 DURAN: It's interesting, because that was also, personally as an artist, 1251 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:53,640 when our salaries went up. 1252 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,960 When everybody became rock stars. 1253 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,480 When it looked like you couldn't stop it. 1254 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,800 Even with the sacrifice, the cold dinners, the nights away from family, 1255 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,560 we were living the dream. 1256 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,240 - Raises. More money. - Cut that. 1257 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,320 Disney became the place to be for animation. 1258 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,440 Alumni like Tim Burton and Henry Selick returned to the studio 1259 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:17,600 to make a stop-motion movie, The Nightmare Before Christmas. 1260 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,240 And Peter tried to hire John Lasseter away from Pixar, 1261 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,040 but John insisted on staying with the struggling start-up company. 1262 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:25,520 So Peter struck a deal with John 1263 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,640 to direct a computer-animated co-production with Disney, 1264 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,160 the first of its kind, a buddy picture called Toy Story. 1265 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,960 There was already a satellite studio in Florida 1266 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,440 and now production started on A Goofy Movie 1267 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,360 at another studio in Paris. 1268 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,440 Rehearsals began on the new Broadway production of Beauty and the Beast. 1269 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,680 Five years earlier, the care and focus was on one picture at a time, 1270 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,200 and now there were five movies and a Broadway show 1271 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:50,720 in very active production. 1272 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,280 Everybody was spread too thin. 1273 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,720 I don't care what I am. I'm free! 1274 01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,200 Offer void where prohibited by law. Ha-ha-ha! 1275 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,160 Master, I don't think you quite realize what you got here. 1276 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,880 Aladdin opened on Thanksgiving weekend, 1992. 1277 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,720 It was the first animated feature to gross over $200 million. 1278 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,960 SCHNEIDER: These movies became the heart and soul, 1279 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,640 once again, of The Walt Disney Company. 1280 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,920 The entire company rallied around them, sold merchandising, 1281 01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,880 put them on TV, made specials about them, 1282 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,360 became characters in the park, became rides in the park. 1283 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,840 It was an extraordinarily heady period of time. 1284 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,000 We could do no wrong. Everything we touched turned to gold. 1285 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,600 Every movie was bigger than the last movie. 1286 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,400 MUSKER: And it was great just to see people-- 1287 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,800 The stigma of animation being just a kids' medium 1288 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,680 kind of get peeled away by these various films. 1289 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,640 [SINGING] 1290 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,280 [SINGING] 1291 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,360 HAHN: While we celebrated the success of Aladdin, 1292 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,840 the next movie was bearing down on us. 1293 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:05,200 It was a coming-of-age story that everyone called Bambi in Africa. 1294 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,760 MINKOFF: I remember having seen a documentary called 1295 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,880 The Eternal Enemies: Lions and Hyenas. 1296 01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,240 I mean, it was so incredibly powerful and dramatic and intense. 1297 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,240 And I thought, "Wow, if this movie could capture, 1298 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,320 you know, a tenth of the power of this documentary, then it would be terrific. 1299 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,120 [GROWLING] 1300 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:26,240 FOWLER: He's just saying hello. He's saying hello to you, by the way. 1301 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:27,480 [ANIMATORS LAUGHING] 1302 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,560 You notice that they are very contact-oriented. 1303 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,320 He just walked under this man's leg just then. 1304 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,520 WOMAN: And in this case, the yellow caution tape really does mean caution. 1305 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,480 MINKOFF: We'd been working on it for a couple of months, 1306 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,680 and then Jeffrey calls a breakfast meeting. 1307 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,680 And in the meeting, we have the whole crew from Pocahontas and Lion King. 1308 01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:47,840 And Jeffrey says, "Pocahontas is a home run. 1309 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,200 It's West Side Story, it's Romeo and Juliet with American Indians. 1310 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,920 It's a hit. It's got hit written all over it. 1311 01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,160 Lion King, on the other hand, is kind of an experiment. 1312 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,880 We don't really know if anybody's gonna really wanna see it." 1313 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,160 And after that meeting, absolutely no one wanted to work on Lion King. 1314 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,320 SCHUMACHER: No one had any faith in that movie, which is, actually-- 1315 01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,840 If there's a lesson in The Lion King, it's "nobody knows nothing." 1316 01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,560 We start with Simba in a secluded glade. He's kind of contemplating life, 1317 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,840 when he looks up and sees the stars and is reminded... 1318 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:25,440 KATZENBERG: The kernel of that idea is something that actually originated with me. 1319 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,920 It was really about that moment in each of our lives 1320 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,400 in which we sort of have to grow up and take responsibility. 1321 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,080 We have to take our place in the circle of life. 1322 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:41,760 It's allegorically a young person born with a future that's to be fulfilled, 1323 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,000 who has to go through a lot of difficulties to get there, 1324 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:48,720 and most especially, who has to learn to believe in himself 1325 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:53,960 before he can become what he is fated to be. 1326 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,000 It became more and more this Shakespearean tale 1327 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,240 about the responsibilities of leadership. 1328 01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,720 And in a really strange way, it seemed almost autobiographical, 1329 01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:06,240 all about the brinksmanship that can arise in this competitive male environment. 1330 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,040 SCHNEIDER: I came out of a story meeting and ran right into Frank Wells. 1331 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,400 And he asked me, "How are things going on The Lion King?" 1332 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:12,760 I said, "Great. 1333 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,640 We're making a movie about ourselves." 1334 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,720 It's a Disney fantasy, your life. 1335 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,680 At the moment. I never thought I would be a CEO of a company. 1336 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,240 I never thought I would run Disney. 1337 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,360 I'd like to freeze everything right now. 1338 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,240 I'd like to just freeze. I'd like to stay my age. I like my age. 1339 01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:33,520 I like my wife's age. I like my children's age. 1340 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,640 I like the way Disney is going. 1341 01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:38,080 This is your big night. 1342 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:39,760 [GIRL SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY] 1343 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,920 EISNER: Yes, it is. 1344 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,200 I'd like to freeze my life right now. 1345 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,160 It was Easter Sunday, 1994. 1346 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,800 And a single event in Nevada's Ruby Mountains 1347 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,120 would set in motion an unimaginable chain of events. 1348 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,960 The helicopter had flown approximately a mile down the canyon 1349 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:04,040 before it crashed into a rugged hillside at approximately 7,200 feet. 1350 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:09,800 This is the only helicopter crash and the first fatality in the company's history. 1351 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,040 [SIGHS] 1352 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:25,400 There are some griefs that have to be shared. 1353 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,120 Likewise, there are some joys so overwhelming 1354 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,760 that they should be shared as well. 1355 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,920 And while we all give Frank's death and grieve it, 1356 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,040 we all share the joy of having known Frank. 1357 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:43,400 That is why we are here today, to remember-- 1358 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,080 To remember and to celebrate, 1359 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:50,640 to pay tribute to one man who had magic 1360 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:55,040 and to share the magic with him through his whole creative life. 1361 01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:59,400 The songs and music you have heard and will hear today 1362 01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,520 are not the songs of music of sorrow or of death. 1363 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,040 They are the songs that Frank Wells enjoyed-- 1364 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,880 These are the songs that Frank enjoyed during his life. 1365 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,840 I would now like to introduce the man 1366 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,760 who thought up Frank and me for this job, Roy Disney. 1367 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,440 [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING] 1368 01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,360 That was it? 1369 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,920 [AUDIENCE LAUGHING] 1370 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,400 My speaker's off. 1371 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:47,760 This is a fantastic, wonderful, unbelievable human being. 1372 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,440 Okay? 1373 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,680 [AUDIENCE LAUGHING] 1374 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,400 Okay. 1375 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,000 SCHNEIDER: Frank was the peacemaker amongst all these tremendous egos. 1376 01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,400 And when Frank died, there was no one to talk to. 1377 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,000 KEANE: Nobody knew what to say. 1378 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:08,400 It was a very strange quietness that overcame the studio, 1379 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,040 just wondering, "Now what?" 1380 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,080 And that is a little baby cub. 1381 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,200 And he is just the cutest thing. 1382 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,920 And this guy is gonna grow up to be 750 pounds. 1383 01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,600 [BOTH LAUGHING] 1384 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:27,360 Ever since Frank's death, 1385 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,760 Jeffrey was lobbying for Frank's job as president of the company, 1386 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,640 but Roy wouldn't have anything to do with it. 1387 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,920 He already felt uncomfortable with the amount of press that Jeffrey was getting. 1388 01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:37,760 KATZENBERG: I was out front on these movies. 1389 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,480 I was selling the films. 1390 01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,840 The more successful they were, the more attention came to me, 1391 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,440 the more I was able to get attention for the films. 1392 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,400 MAN: He's getting restless, so shoot away. KATZENBERG: Yeah, okay. 1393 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:51,920 MAN: That's it. KATZENBERG: There we go. 1394 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:56,280 Great, good. Pancho, good. Pancho. 1395 01:12:56,480 --> 01:12:58,480 KATZENBERG: At the time, I think many people felt, 1396 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,880 well, am I doing this for me and my own career? 1397 01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,720 I think Michael became very competitive with me at some point in this. 1398 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,800 He was uncomfortable with the amount of attention 1399 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,640 and recognition that I was getting for it. 1400 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,720 I think Roy was extremely uptight about it. 1401 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,520 [BOTH SINGING] 1402 01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:19,240 MINKOFF: Jeffrey was gonna come in with a reporter from The Wall Street Journal 1403 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,040 and he was gonna follow us around to show how the movie got made. 1404 01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,880 And Jeffrey performed for the journalist 1405 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,040 and we created what looked like a slice of how the movie actually got made. 1406 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:34,560 And in that article, Jeffrey was proclaimed the guy who was saving Disney Animation. 1407 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,480 ROY: I think that was kind of a last-straw kind of a thing for me. 1408 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,320 I was just incensed by that. 1409 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:44,560 TURNER: This is the vaunted Walt Disney Company's animation machine in action: 1410 01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:48,480 collaborative, confrontational, extravagant, exacting, 1411 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:54,000 and under the meddlesome, protective hand of Mr. Katzenberg, wildly successful. 1412 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,600 The studio that invented the animated movie in the 1930s, 1413 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,440 but stumbled badly in the past decades, is back with a vengeance. 1414 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,600 It has produced an unparalleled string of blockbusters, 1415 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,280 from The Little Mermaid to Beauty and the Beast to Aladdin. 1416 01:14:08,440 --> 01:14:12,040 In fact, counting ancillary activities like merchandising, 1417 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:15,200 video sales and theme-park attractions, 1418 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,920 Disney's animated movies are simply the most successful products 1419 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,560 in the history of the entertainment business. 1420 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:25,360 It was the president of Walt Disney Studios 1421 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,040 versus the king of the jungle in Las Vegas Sunday night. 1422 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,960 And luckily, Jeffrey Katzenberg can live to laugh about it. 1423 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,360 KATZENBERG: You know, the final moment that was literally-- 1424 01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:35,880 And I knew it, the day it happened. 1425 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,880 --the straw that broke the camel's back is 1426 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,880 there was an article that Rich Turner wrote 1427 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:45,080 in The Wall Street Journal about Lion King. 1428 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:50,400 And it was so interesting, because when I got up in the morning, 1429 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,640 I read the paper, you know, very early in the morning 1430 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,400 and I remember saying to Marilyn before I left for work, I said, 1431 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,360 "Well, this is over. 1432 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,160 This is the nail in my coffin." 1433 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,640 [AUDIENCE GASPING AND LAUGHING] 1434 01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:08,240 It is now 22 minutes before the hour. I'm over 50 years old 1435 01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:12,600 and every time Disney comes out with a new animated movie, I rush off to see it. 1436 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,920 And all this week, we're gonna be looking at the magic 1437 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,840 that has created the new Disney animated feature. 1438 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,520 It is called The Lion King. 1439 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,280 So you all test this, these things. 1440 01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:23,640 Tell me, give me a little-- Give me a taste. 1441 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,600 What is the test on The Lion King? 1442 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,000 First of all, we don't believe in research. I never have. 1443 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:29,240 - Really? - Never. 1444 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:33,440 That being said, it's the highest-tested film we have ever had. 1445 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:34,880 I'm very proud to be part of it. 1446 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,680 And to be proud part of that great tradition of Disney animated features. 1447 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:44,800 Hakuna matata, which of course, in Swahili, means "500 million worldwide." 1448 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,240 Actually, hakuna matata, in Swahili, does mean "no worries." 1449 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,760 And, boy, judging from the success of The Lion King, 1450 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,600 it is safe to say that at this point, Disney Studios, which made the movie, 1451 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,640 has hakuna matata. 1452 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,320 ANNOUNCER: We're live from Los Angeles. 1453 01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:01,800 REPORTER: And here coming up on the red carpet is Matthew Broderick. 1454 01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,600 About four years ago, we all decided we were gonna make it, 1455 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,160 and so, you know, you fall in love pretty soon after that. 1456 01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:15,240 So four years ago, I would say, "Well, yeah," but now, it's great. 1457 01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,880 By the time The Lion King premiered in Hollywood, 1458 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,800 the press had picked up on the tensions 1459 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,760 and Jeffrey waved off all interviews on the red carpet. 1460 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,400 KATZENBERG: I had lunch with Michael and, you know, he said to me, 1461 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,080 "I'm not interested in having you take this job. 1462 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,600 Even though I said I was and promised you that you were, 1463 01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,040 I've changed my mind." 1464 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,800 And I said to him, "Fine, I understand. 1465 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,680 But, you know, in changing your mind and deciding to do it, 1466 01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,720 you know, it really says to me I have no future here." 1467 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,200 EISNER: Jeffrey was a very good executive. He just played it wrong. 1468 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,440 Had he been happy to stay at the studio, stay in his job, 1469 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,400 not push everybody against the wall at a moment when somebody had died, 1470 01:16:55,560 --> 01:17:01,040 he would have gotten the job, had he just had the patience to wait. 1471 01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,000 HAHN: Whenever you're comfortable. - You are rolling? 1472 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,120 HAHN: Yeah. - Okay. 1473 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:18,560 With all the many varied businesses this company is in, it is... 1474 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,800 The cast-and-crew premiere was coming up fast. 1475 01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,920 It was tradition for all of us to get up on-stage 1476 01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,880 and give warm thank-you speeches. 1477 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,560 But this time, I decided to film all the speeches instead. 1478 01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,440 --an unbelievable job over the last decade, 1479 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,440 culminating in Lion King, and pushing forward... 1480 01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,720 Soon after, Michael complained of chest pains 1481 01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,080 and was rushed to the hospital 1482 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,600 where he underwent quadruple bypass surgery. 1483 01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:48,000 All right, I gotta just-- Mind on other things. 1484 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,240 Ten years after he ushered Frank and Michael into the company, 1485 01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:57,680 and with Animation at the height of success, 1486 01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,760 the wheels were coming off the car. 1487 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:01,360 You're not rolling, I hope. 1488 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:04,760 MAN: Anytime. 1489 01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,720 Well, I just wanna personally say thank you to everybody 1490 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,440 for another absolutely incredible job on another marvelous movie 1491 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,320 on the way to the next great movie. 1492 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:24,160 Ten years ago, when we arrived here at Disney 1493 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,800 and Roy took Michael and I in hand 1494 01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,120 over to the second floor of the Animation Building, 1495 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:35,760 and with Ron and John, walked us through those initial storyboards 1496 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,520 for The Great Mouse Detective, 1497 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,200 there's not a chance in the world 1498 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:47,000 that with all the imagination I could muster 1499 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:53,640 that I could envision ten years later being here 1500 01:18:54,240 --> 01:19:01,240 and having the kinds of movies, collaboration and pride 1501 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:07,520 that I feel having been a part of this extraordinary team 1502 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,000 called Disney Feature Animation. 1503 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:17,840 For me, it is what makes coming to work every day so special. 1504 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:23,480 And to all of you, I'm not sure I can ever tell you how much it means 1505 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,440 and how much I love being part of your family. 1506 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:32,400 And how proud I am to have been a part of these movies with the best in the world. 1507 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:33,760 Thank you. 1508 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:37,400 After the opening of The Lion King, he resigned. 1509 01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,760 EISNER: Go to any institution, any university, 1510 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,920 any hospital, any corporation, 1511 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,160 any home, any house. You know what? 1512 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:50,560 The human condition overshadows bricks and mortar every time. 1513 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:54,560 And it's about fear and envy and jealousy and comfort 1514 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,320 and love and hate and accomplishment. 1515 01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,200 Every institution has it. 1516 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,160 Were we a bunch of artistic, emotional people 1517 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,040 running around, screaming and crying and ranting and raving? 1518 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:09,760 No, it was an organized group of people working together, saying, 1519 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,760 "Let's put on a show." 1520 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,160 After all that drama, the late nights, the cold pizza, the bruised egos 1521 01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,160 and all those hours away from family, 1522 01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,760 in the end, nobody will remember who did what to who, 1523 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:24,800 but they will remember the characters who leapt from a pencil onto the screen 1524 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,240 and into the hearts of the audience, and that's how it should be. 1525 01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:34,120 I just don't think anything is quite as magical as a Disney cartoon fairy tale. 1526 01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:36,000 There's just nothing like that. 1527 01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,160 [SOFT POP MUSIC PLAYING] 1528 01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,200 And now the grand finale. 1529 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,400 [UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING] 1530 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,200 - Hello, out there. - Hi, how are you? 1531 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:38,960 - Hi. - Hello. 1532 01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:41,320 - Hello. - Hi. 1533 01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:42,520 Hi, and... 1534 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,160 Oh, hi. 1535 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:45,640 Hi. 1536 01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:47,640 - Hi. - Hello. 1537 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:49,320 - Hi. WOMAN: Can you say hi? 1538 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,160 [IN BRITISH ACCENT] Hello, this is simply not good enough. 1539 01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,200 MAN: Linda, do you have enough air? WOMAN: Yeah? 1540 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,560 - Try me. - Just it feels great to be here. 1541 01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,240 We were both riotously drunk and we were thrown in jail. 1542 01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:06,200 Game! 1543 01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,800 Okay, Goofy, let's see what you got. Oh! 1544 01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,960 [CREW LAUGHING] 1545 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,200 I knew something was up. 1546 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,720 [BOTH SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY] 1547 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,000 - Hello. - Hi. 1548 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,680 - Hello. - Hi, Mom. 1549 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,360 Hi. 1550 01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:28,480 [GROANS] 1551 01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,800 Let me out of here. Let me out. 1552 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:35,840 Hi. We're going 130 kilometers per hour here 1553 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,080 through the French countryside and I'm not wearing any pants. 1554 01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:40,560 [PEOPLE LAUGHING] 1555 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,040 Disney, number one. 1556 01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,800 I love it here! 1557 01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,120 - And I wanna... MAN: All right. 1558 01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:54,600 [PEOPLE LAUGHING] 1559 01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,400 MAN: Okay, ready? - Burgess Meredith first? 1560 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,240 [SPEAKING GIBBERISH] 1561 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,040 Come on, Aladdin. 1562 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,240 [SPEAKING GIBBERISH] 1563 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,480 I don't know what I'm saying. Just go with me! 1564 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,400 I'm kind of a little self-conscious. 1565 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,800 [LAUGHS] 1566 01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:30,480 It's about time it's coming out. 1567 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:32,480 See here. 1568 01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:33,760 Oh, my breast. 1569 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,600 Roger has no weak spots. 1570 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,760 - I started in 1945. - Yes, I called you the kiss-ass of cleanup. 1571 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:45,440 Oh, dear, I've said too much. 1572 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,200 I'm gonna ask you a question before I continue. 1573 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,520 Am I allowed to mention Jeffrey Katzenberg? 1574 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,320 Tell him just to put a sweater on. 1575 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,640 [SINGING] 1576 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,960 [BOTH SINGING] 1577 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,480 [CROWD APPLAUDING] 1578 01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,520 [CROWD CHEERING] 1579 01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,520 [CARTWRIGHT SINGING TRADITIONAL POP MUSIC] 1580 01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,120 I'm stuck for the rest of it. 1581 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,440 [TRADITIONAL POP MUSIC PLAYING] 141015

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