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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:31,089 --> 00:00:33,213 New York, 1975, 2 00:00:33,313 --> 00:00:37,441 a city close to bankruptcy and a place that was no fun at all. 3 00:00:41,190 --> 00:00:43,614 London, 1975, 4 00:00:43,914 --> 00:00:45,514 not much better. 5 00:00:46,104 --> 00:00:47,976 Both cities had lost their way, 6 00:00:48,076 --> 00:00:50,371 and for a group of young musicians and fans 7 00:00:50,471 --> 00:00:51,411 so had rock. 8 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:54,972 On both sides of the Atlantic, they wanted to reconnect 9 00:00:55,072 --> 00:00:56,812 with rock's true spirit. 10 00:00:57,772 --> 00:01:01,518 The toughness, the rawness, the total rawness. The simplicity of it. 11 00:01:01,618 --> 00:01:03,306 The not messing about, you know. 12 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:10,473 So, for a brief period, music was played that had passion and fury. 13 00:01:10,963 --> 00:01:12,094 "Punk" 14 00:01:12,737 --> 00:01:15,707 Punk was a conversation between two cities. 15 00:01:16,540 --> 00:01:20,623 London learned from the attitude and style of New Yorker's like Patti Smith, 16 00:01:20,723 --> 00:01:24,509 and was inspired by the minimalist sound of the Ramones. 17 00:01:25,545 --> 00:01:27,392 When I heard the first Ramones album 18 00:01:27,427 --> 00:01:31,485 it was like I'd plugged my finger into an electric socket. 19 00:01:31,585 --> 00:01:32,728 It was... Ahhhh! 20 00:01:32,828 --> 00:01:35,630 But London band's, like the Sex Pistols and The Clash, 21 00:01:35,730 --> 00:01:39,137 then created a punk rock that was uniquely British. 22 00:01:39,808 --> 00:01:42,720 They sang in their London, cockney voices, 23 00:01:42,820 --> 00:01:45,710 about things they knew about in the language of the street. 24 00:01:45,810 --> 00:01:49,090 And it felt truthful and honest and passionate. 25 00:01:49,534 --> 00:01:53,407 The Sex Pistols were sneer and swagger combining in a music 26 00:01:53,507 --> 00:01:56,317 that was confrontational and angry. 27 00:01:57,225 --> 00:02:01,278 It's not put on, there's no airs or graces about it. 28 00:02:01,378 --> 00:02:04,948 We suffer, and you can fuck off for it! 29 00:02:06,194 --> 00:02:08,806 What both cities had in common was a desire 30 00:02:08,906 --> 00:02:11,333 for punk to become music you controlled, 31 00:02:11,433 --> 00:02:14,479 where you could be yourself by doing it yourself. 32 00:02:15,655 --> 00:02:17,684 You just thought anything went. 33 00:02:18,108 --> 00:02:20,399 The door was open to do what you wanted to do. 34 00:02:20,434 --> 00:02:22,803 If you had an idea you could get on and do it. 35 00:02:23,069 --> 00:02:25,456 And we kind of put the key in the door. 36 00:02:25,715 --> 00:02:27,450 In this tale of two cities, 37 00:02:27,550 --> 00:02:30,809 from the worst of times came the best of times, 38 00:02:30,909 --> 00:02:32,957 and the Third Age of Rock. 39 00:02:33,901 --> 00:02:37,418 I try so hard to be nice. 40 00:02:57,256 --> 00:03:00,636 In the summer of 1974, four misfits from Queens 41 00:03:00,736 --> 00:03:04,431 began to play at a new club on New York's Lower East Side. 42 00:03:06,389 --> 00:03:11,059 The club was called CBGBs, the band were The Ramones. 43 00:03:18,928 --> 00:03:20,939 # I don't wanna walk around with you 44 00:03:21,139 --> 00:03:23,085 The first time I ever saw the Ramones play 45 00:03:23,185 --> 00:03:25,509 I think they did about 16 songs in 12 minutes, 46 00:03:25,609 --> 00:03:27,656 or maybe 12 songs in 16 minutes. 47 00:03:31,164 --> 00:03:33,469 We didn't want to bore the audience. 48 00:03:33,569 --> 00:03:36,732 We wanted to get out there, do our thing and leave... 49 00:03:36,832 --> 00:03:39,931 People have lives to live, you know. 50 00:03:40,188 --> 00:03:44,052 We don't have to waste their times, we just wanted to do our thing and... 51 00:03:44,152 --> 00:03:45,485 get it over with. 52 00:03:45,611 --> 00:03:47,796 # I don't wanna walk around with you 53 00:03:47,897 --> 00:03:49,885 # I don't wanna walk around with you 54 00:03:50,215 --> 00:03:52,198 # I don't wanna walk around with you 55 00:03:52,498 --> 00:03:54,993 # I don't wanna walk around with you 56 00:03:55,733 --> 00:04:00,383 It was so funny but smart, so mad with determination, 57 00:04:00,483 --> 00:04:03,768 and so serious and intense, you know, it was really just... 58 00:04:03,868 --> 00:04:04,766 they were great. 59 00:04:04,866 --> 00:04:08,012 Always have been, I mean, I loved them from the first. 60 00:04:08,364 --> 00:04:11,665 Those insanely revved up tempos, 61 00:04:11,666 --> 00:04:15,379 the look, the sound, the attitude, 62 00:04:15,479 --> 00:04:19,245 without the Ramones, this program probably wouldn't exist. 63 00:04:19,446 --> 00:04:20,461 We're the Ramones, 64 00:04:20,561 --> 00:04:23,344 and 'you're a loudmouth baby, you better shut it up'. 65 00:04:26,658 --> 00:04:29,203 The Ramones were proud to be rough and ready. 66 00:04:30,015 --> 00:04:33,138 And that's what I had always hoped, that when kids see the Ramones 67 00:04:33,238 --> 00:04:35,957 that they feel that they can go out there and do this too. 68 00:04:36,057 --> 00:04:37,880 That's what rock 'n roll was supposed to be about. 69 00:04:38,828 --> 00:04:43,343 Late 60s things got away from that, people started overindulging with long... 70 00:04:43,443 --> 00:04:49,480 solos and... you watched someone like Jeff Beck or Jimmy Hendrix 71 00:04:49,580 --> 00:04:53,230 and you felt like you'd have to practice for 20 years to be able to play this song. 72 00:04:53,357 --> 00:04:55,908 The sound that came from the guitar of Johnny Ramone, 73 00:04:56,008 --> 00:04:57,283 defined the band. 74 00:04:58,148 --> 00:05:00,641 The thing about Johnny was that... 75 00:05:01,464 --> 00:05:05,202 since he wasn't going for the usual virtuosity, 76 00:05:05,816 --> 00:05:11,565 he created his own virtuosity which was downstrumming very fast. 77 00:05:12,171 --> 00:05:15,810 The songs were so crude, no solos, only bar chords, 78 00:05:15,910 --> 00:05:18,118 but they were so catchy at the same time. 79 00:05:18,218 --> 00:05:22,589 But the lyrics were so crazy, Queens street kid, 80 00:05:22,689 --> 00:05:26,640 about sniffing glue and beating on the brat with a baseball bat. 81 00:05:26,740 --> 00:05:28,925 It was like brilliant, I loved it. 82 00:05:29,025 --> 00:05:31,303 # Now I wanna sniff some glue 83 00:05:31,503 --> 00:05:34,261 # Now I wanna have somethin to do 84 00:05:34,461 --> 00:05:36,732 # All the kids wanna sniff some glue 85 00:05:36,932 --> 00:05:39,457 # All the kids want somethin to do 86 00:05:39,492 --> 00:05:43,298 We wrote about things that affected us, you know, directly. 87 00:05:43,398 --> 00:05:48,880 Songs were like a release for our frustration and... 88 00:05:48,980 --> 00:05:51,574 getting out our aggression and uh... 89 00:05:52,389 --> 00:05:58,125 Songs dealt with feelings of alienation and isolation and all kinds of... 90 00:05:58,225 --> 00:05:59,662 just feelings, you know. 91 00:06:04,004 --> 00:06:08,517 Everything sort of happened without any really uh... 92 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,210 conscious effort. 93 00:06:11,999 --> 00:06:15,057 We just fell into our style as we went along. 94 00:06:16,328 --> 00:06:20,653 We wanted at first to... we thought we were playing bubblegum music. 95 00:06:22,361 --> 00:06:24,336 Sort of like a sick bubblegum music, 96 00:06:24,436 --> 00:06:26,525 which became punk. 97 00:06:32,917 --> 00:06:34,331 A year later, in London, 98 00:06:34,431 --> 00:06:37,666 another group of rock outsiders began their own campaign 99 00:06:37,766 --> 00:06:40,273 to rip it up and start again. 100 00:06:42,937 --> 00:06:45,589 The Sex Pistols formed on the King's Road, Chelsea, 101 00:06:45,689 --> 00:06:49,397 when a boy named John was seen wearing an unusual T-shirt. 102 00:06:49,497 --> 00:06:52,816 It was 'cause I had an 'I hate Pink Floyd' T-shirt on, 103 00:06:52,916 --> 00:06:54,721 you know, for a laugh. 104 00:06:55,605 --> 00:06:59,195 I didn't have many clothes but I did have a Pink Floyd t-shirt 105 00:06:59,295 --> 00:07:00,845 and I just wrote "I hate" on it. 106 00:07:00,945 --> 00:07:03,274 And look, it launched a career. 107 00:07:05,075 --> 00:07:07,242 Is that luck? What is that? 108 00:07:07,497 --> 00:07:11,217 At "Sex", the fetish shop of one Malcolm McLaren, 109 00:07:11,317 --> 00:07:13,295 an unusual audition took place. 110 00:07:13,395 --> 00:07:17,676 The boy from Finsbury Park mimed to the shop's juke box. 111 00:07:19,433 --> 00:07:23,348 They did have an Alice Cooper song called 'I'm Eighteen' which I did know 112 00:07:23,548 --> 00:07:25,317 'cause I liked Alice Cooper. 113 00:07:25,417 --> 00:07:27,482 It was that fine man. 114 00:07:28,822 --> 00:07:31,338 Nobody wore a corset quite like him. 115 00:07:31,373 --> 00:07:34,328 # I'll go runnin in outer space 116 00:07:34,363 --> 00:07:36,109 The other boys in the band looked at Johnny 117 00:07:36,209 --> 00:07:39,824 and knew straight away that there was... something about him. 118 00:07:40,787 --> 00:07:43,250 It was an odd scenario, I mean, 119 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:48,415 miming to somebody else's record to these blokes you've hardly met. 120 00:07:49,752 --> 00:07:51,026 And he was embarrassed, 121 00:07:51,061 --> 00:07:57,483 but he put on this kind of weird... front, which was interesting. 122 00:07:58,583 --> 00:08:01,641 He couldn't sing for a toffee, but there was something about him. 123 00:08:01,773 --> 00:08:04,319 # I get confused every day 124 00:08:04,740 --> 00:08:06,960 # Eighteen I just don't know... 125 00:08:06,995 --> 00:08:09,251 I couldn't sing a note, never ever tried. 126 00:08:09,976 --> 00:08:11,549 But I liked it. 127 00:08:11,649 --> 00:08:15,818 I grabbed it by the testicles and ran with it, from thereon in. 128 00:08:15,918 --> 00:08:20,406 I know... hence the squealing high tones. 129 00:08:21,097 --> 00:08:24,144 The Sex Pistols found themselves a rehearsal place up West, 130 00:08:24,244 --> 00:08:25,910 Denmark Street, Soho. 131 00:08:26,010 --> 00:08:30,828 Tin Pan Alley, historic home to London's finest pop hustles. 132 00:08:32,048 --> 00:08:34,448 We had a base, you know, we could leave our gear set up, 133 00:08:34,548 --> 00:08:37,292 we had somewhere to hang out, somewhere to practice. 134 00:08:37,392 --> 00:08:40,364 And we did... we were there practically every day. 135 00:08:40,420 --> 00:08:42,656 We could hear nothing because of the horrible noises we made, 136 00:08:42,756 --> 00:08:44,389 but maybe that was kind of good. 137 00:08:46,073 --> 00:08:49,066 Do we know any other fucking songs that we could do? 138 00:08:52,264 --> 00:08:53,501 Here they learnt how to play 139 00:08:53,601 --> 00:08:57,551 by covering 'mod' classics like 'Substitute' by The Who. 140 00:09:03,075 --> 00:09:07,063 # You think we look pretty good together 141 00:09:09,194 --> 00:09:13,939 # You think my shoes are made of leather 142 00:09:15,289 --> 00:09:18,650 Into 1976, the Pistols had begun to perform live 143 00:09:18,750 --> 00:09:21,702 attracting a growing reputation with their chaotic performances 144 00:09:21,802 --> 00:09:25,678 and unlikely venues, like the '100 Club', on Oxford Street. 145 00:09:28,324 --> 00:09:31,174 The Pistols were not really like a typical performance, 146 00:09:31,274 --> 00:09:35,333 or a typical concert where you pay your money, you go, you're entertained. 147 00:09:35,433 --> 00:09:40,212 It was more like some sort of spontaneous confrontational art happening. 148 00:09:44,395 --> 00:09:46,821 Get out! Get out! 149 00:09:46,921 --> 00:09:50,180 Fucking ol' hippies! 150 00:09:51,019 --> 00:09:54,381 You learn your chops on stage, you know, you do. 151 00:09:54,581 --> 00:09:56,721 You learn all your stage movements 152 00:09:56,756 --> 00:09:59,298 away from where the bottles are coming from. 153 00:10:01,252 --> 00:10:04,100 And there was an awful lot of that. People hated us. 154 00:10:09,927 --> 00:10:13,136 # If you could see... oh God, fuck off... 155 00:10:15,475 --> 00:10:18,215 # Ayanlouisiannayaya New Orleans 156 00:10:18,315 --> 00:10:21,000 But for the Sex Pistols to be more than a covers band, 157 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:22,995 they needed to write their own songs. 158 00:10:22,996 --> 00:10:23,991 # ...Johnny B. Goode 159 00:10:24,091 --> 00:10:26,565 # Agogogogogogo Johnny B. Goode 160 00:10:26,666 --> 00:10:30,233 # Agogo, go Johnny, gogogogogo 161 00:10:30,333 --> 00:10:34,824 To find the first flashes of inspiration, the Pistols' manager, Malcolm McLaren, 162 00:10:34,924 --> 00:10:39,130 persuaded them to look at a band he'd recently met in New York. 163 00:10:39,341 --> 00:10:44,452 This was 'Television', formed by Richard Hell and Tom Verlaine. 164 00:10:48,397 --> 00:10:53,224 Television were painfully serious about making music as provocation. 165 00:10:53,324 --> 00:10:59,641 It had to do with aggressively not looking to please the audience. 166 00:11:00,901 --> 00:11:04,592 Playing songs that are kind of psychotic... 167 00:11:06,755 --> 00:11:08,568 The way the world felt. 168 00:11:09,705 --> 00:11:14,947 But also lyrical, but really loud and physical. 169 00:11:15,047 --> 00:11:17,814 And everything ragged but... 170 00:11:19,457 --> 00:11:20,593 intense. 171 00:11:22,459 --> 00:11:25,170 # Now Little Johnny Jewel 172 00:11:26,313 --> 00:11:29,999 But equally important is the art punk intensity of the music, 173 00:11:30,099 --> 00:11:33,460 Richard Hell had a clearly thought out image for the band, 174 00:11:33,560 --> 00:11:35,431 and this impressed McLaren. 175 00:11:36,215 --> 00:11:40,344 Malcolm saw Richard with his chopped up clothes 176 00:11:40,444 --> 00:11:45,449 and his hacked off hair and his gorgeous sunglasses. 177 00:11:45,549 --> 00:11:49,526 And thought this is the look of the future, 178 00:11:49,561 --> 00:11:51,963 this what rock 'n roll is gonna look like. 179 00:11:53,987 --> 00:11:57,905 McLaren was also struck by the nihilistic message of a song Hell wrote 180 00:11:58,005 --> 00:12:00,369 called 'Blank Generation'. 181 00:12:01,925 --> 00:12:07,666 I did think it would be interesting and fun to try to distinguish 182 00:12:08,409 --> 00:12:15,677 the way things look like to me from hippies or beatnicks or whatever. 183 00:12:20,255 --> 00:12:24,875 This next number's called 'I belong to the blank generation'. 184 00:12:34,707 --> 00:12:38,823 'I was sayin' let me out of here before I was even born.' 185 00:12:38,923 --> 00:12:41,212 'It's such a gamble when you get a face.' 186 00:12:41,312 --> 00:12:44,539 'It's fascinatin' to observe what the mirror does but when I dine' 187 00:12:44,639 --> 00:12:46,905 'it's for the wall that I set a place.' 188 00:12:46,940 --> 00:12:50,060 # But when I dine it's for the wall that I set a place 189 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,646 # I belong to the blank generation and 190 00:12:53,746 --> 00:12:56,591 # I can take it or leave it each time 191 00:12:56,691 --> 00:13:01,221 # I belong to the ______ generation but 192 00:13:01,321 --> 00:13:04,185 # I can take it or leave it each time 193 00:13:12,171 --> 00:13:16,336 'Triangles were fallin at the window as the doctor cursed.' 194 00:13:16,436 --> 00:13:20,093 'He was a cartoon long forsaken by the public eye.' 195 00:13:20,193 --> 00:13:23,398 'The nurse adjusted her garters as I breathed my first.' 196 00:13:23,498 --> 00:13:27,526 'The doctor grabbed my throat and yelled, "God's consolation prize!"' 197 00:13:27,561 --> 00:13:30,626 # I belong to the blank generation and 198 00:13:30,726 --> 00:13:34,492 # I can take it or leave it each time 199 00:13:34,592 --> 00:13:38,630 # I belong to the ______ generation but 200 00:13:38,730 --> 00:13:41,306 # I can take it or leave it each time 201 00:13:45,175 --> 00:13:47,602 It avoids clarifying 'blank', you know, 202 00:13:47,702 --> 00:13:49,139 'cause that's the whole point. 203 00:13:49,239 --> 00:13:54,119 It's empty, it's blank, it's uh... 204 00:13:54,701 --> 00:13:56,559 It's up to you to make it up. 205 00:13:57,424 --> 00:14:01,463 Back in London, the Pistols took Hell's idea of a blank generation 206 00:14:01,563 --> 00:14:04,132 but now put it in a very British context, 207 00:14:04,232 --> 00:14:07,807 where not just a city, but a whole country seemed in crisis. 208 00:14:07,842 --> 00:14:10,283 There was this raw air of desperation. 209 00:14:10,383 --> 00:14:13,644 There was practically a hung parliament, 210 00:14:13,744 --> 00:14:17,655 there were power cuts, there was rubbish piled up on the streets. 211 00:14:18,687 --> 00:14:20,996 And.. you know, the three day week. 212 00:14:21,096 --> 00:14:23,073 I mean, there was just a real feeling of despondency, 213 00:14:23,173 --> 00:14:26,477 and I saw this blank generation idea and I thought, "Yeah, you know, 214 00:14:26,577 --> 00:14:29,128 "I could use it somehow", and came up with this 'Pretty Vacant' idea. 215 00:14:29,571 --> 00:14:32,469 As for nailing the riffs, base player Glen Matlock 216 00:14:32,569 --> 00:14:36,835 playfully dipped into a very un-punky, not very arty, influence, 217 00:14:37,203 --> 00:14:38,030 ABBA. 218 00:14:38,170 --> 00:14:39,696 In one of their songs there's a bit in it, 219 00:14:39,731 --> 00:14:41,462 and it doesn't have that riff in it... 220 00:14:41,688 --> 00:14:43,301 but it has a thing it goes... 221 00:14:47,662 --> 00:14:50,348 And you can hardly hear it, but it just set me thinking. 222 00:14:56,533 --> 00:15:01,029 # Where are those happy days, they seem so hard to find 223 00:15:01,632 --> 00:15:04,549 The most moronic riff you can get is... 224 00:15:05,846 --> 00:15:09,159 but... kind of there, it's just not-- it's the same note. 225 00:15:09,259 --> 00:15:11,370 So I'm fooling around, you know, what is it? 226 00:15:18,510 --> 00:15:23,133 Off... I've got a riff. It's the most straightforward, moronic, 227 00:15:24,262 --> 00:15:27,499 dadaist kind of riff to go with this idea. 228 00:15:28,665 --> 00:15:29,851 'Pretty Vacant'. 229 00:15:37,167 --> 00:15:41,256 It was one of the very first Pistols' songs and dealing with... 230 00:15:41,356 --> 00:15:44,807 something other than what your normal pop group will do. 231 00:15:44,907 --> 00:15:47,666 Something kind of a bit of a... manifesto somehow. 232 00:15:48,732 --> 00:15:51,244 You know, our mission statement. 233 00:15:51,586 --> 00:15:54,494 # There's no point in asking us you'll get no reply 234 00:15:54,594 --> 00:15:57,947 # Oh just remember a don't decide 235 00:15:58,047 --> 00:16:01,213 # I got no reason it's all too much 236 00:16:01,313 --> 00:16:04,403 # You'll always find us 237 00:16:05,446 --> 00:16:07,745 # Out to lunch! 238 00:16:09,714 --> 00:16:11,187 # Oh, we're so pretty 239 00:16:11,287 --> 00:16:15,956 # Oh so pretty vacant 240 00:16:16,348 --> 00:16:17,979 # Oh, we're so pretty... 241 00:16:18,221 --> 00:16:19,302 With 'Pretty Vacant', 242 00:16:19,402 --> 00:16:22,028 the Sex Pistols weren't just talking about their generation 243 00:16:22,128 --> 00:16:23,204 but to them. 244 00:16:23,638 --> 00:16:25,447 They began to change lives. 245 00:16:27,913 --> 00:16:30,218 As someone the same age, you'd got what he was saying. 246 00:16:30,253 --> 00:16:31,742 You didn't feel like, "Ooh, he's scary, 247 00:16:31,743 --> 00:16:33,574 "shouting at me, he's telling me to fuck off." 248 00:16:33,674 --> 00:16:36,044 No, you understood that he was saying, 249 00:16:36,144 --> 00:16:37,837 "Get off your arses. Do something. 250 00:16:37,872 --> 00:16:40,211 "I'm not doing it the same way everyone's done it before, 251 00:16:40,311 --> 00:16:41,960 "and like it or piss off." 252 00:16:42,298 --> 00:16:47,985 It was so new that you realised you'd have to go home and start... 253 00:16:48,085 --> 00:16:52,515 shedding quite a lot of the bands you took around with you. 254 00:16:52,769 --> 00:16:56,671 It was like being re-programmed. 255 00:17:06,479 --> 00:17:10,693 Seeing the Sex Pistols was the spark that brought together another punk band, 256 00:17:10,793 --> 00:17:12,015 The Clash. 257 00:17:12,213 --> 00:17:13,597 Their singer, Joe Strummer, 258 00:17:13,697 --> 00:17:16,631 saw the light after the Pistols were support to his old band, 259 00:17:16,731 --> 00:17:18,811 pub rockers, 'The 101ers'. 260 00:17:20,978 --> 00:17:23,108 I remember the Pistols' show was uh... 261 00:17:23,573 --> 00:17:27,535 curtailed suddenly by a fist fire, 262 00:17:27,635 --> 00:17:32,362 that actually spread from the stage. 263 00:17:34,929 --> 00:17:38,947 And we all saw this, and it was like... it kind of outshadowed, in a way, 264 00:17:39,047 --> 00:17:43,533 Joe's performance afterwards, so it was like the old and the new, 265 00:17:43,633 --> 00:17:45,097 singing in the same place. 266 00:17:45,197 --> 00:17:47,430 And I know it was a marking point for Joe. 267 00:17:47,530 --> 00:17:50,562 He went like, "This is the new thing it's coming now. I can see that." 268 00:17:50,662 --> 00:17:54,430 You can't change the way that things are going. 269 00:17:54,948 --> 00:17:57,980 And he said, "I'm gonna get on... get with this.", you know, 270 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,939 the new thing that was coming in. 271 00:18:05,290 --> 00:18:09,445 By 1976, there was another influence from New York, 272 00:18:09,545 --> 00:18:14,720 this was a singer who made it very clear that anything might now be possible, 273 00:18:14,820 --> 00:18:16,556 if you had the passion. 274 00:18:17,353 --> 00:18:19,380 This was Patti Smith. 275 00:18:19,635 --> 00:18:24,649 She was one of this very strong poet performers. 276 00:18:25,404 --> 00:18:30,567 And with a razor-sharp mouth that would deliver. 277 00:18:31,792 --> 00:18:36,945 # Wild card up my sleeve 278 00:18:38,852 --> 00:18:40,048 Visceral... 279 00:18:40,316 --> 00:18:43,315 It was about language, just language. 280 00:18:43,415 --> 00:18:45,902 Never mind what the music's doing, the music's doing fine, 281 00:18:46,002 --> 00:18:49,864 but the language is spitting out something that goes right into your head. 282 00:18:49,964 --> 00:18:51,921 It was very good. 283 00:18:55,771 --> 00:18:59,525 # I-I walk in a room 284 00:19:01,181 --> 00:19:04,730 # you know I look so proud 285 00:19:06,637 --> 00:19:11,958 # I'm movin' in this here atmosphere... 286 00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:16,467 The Patti Smith band fused performance poetry with 3-chord rock. 287 00:19:16,582 --> 00:19:20,672 They took the 60s garage band classic, 'Gloria', added a little wrapping, 288 00:19:20,772 --> 00:19:22,729 and then punked it up. 289 00:19:23,269 --> 00:19:27,042 It was fairly natural, the way she read poetry 290 00:19:27,142 --> 00:19:30,658 seemed to have a rhythm and a melody to it. 291 00:19:30,758 --> 00:19:36,503 So it was very easy to attach chords and rhythm underneath it. 292 00:19:36,603 --> 00:19:43,378 # oh, she looks so good, oh, she looks so fine 293 00:19:44,216 --> 00:19:50,288 # and I got this crazy feeling and then I'm gonna ah-ah make her mine 294 00:19:50,388 --> 00:19:55,088 And having grown up with rock 'n roll, those three classic chords, 295 00:19:55,188 --> 00:19:59,659 we gravitated toward that. 296 00:19:59,859 --> 00:20:06,510 It was fun, I mean, we enjoyed the sense of twisting this form. 297 00:20:06,610 --> 00:20:09,787 # and her name is, and her name is, 298 00:20:11,641 --> 00:20:20,955 # G-L-O-R-I-A 299 00:20:26,133 --> 00:20:28,096 Patti Smith was absolutely astonishing. 300 00:20:28,131 --> 00:20:35,189 She was absolutely vital to laying the foundations of punk. 301 00:20:35,389 --> 00:20:40,116 Her voice, her clothes, her stage presence, her movements. 302 00:20:40,216 --> 00:20:42,569 She was almost like a freestyle rapper. 303 00:20:52,327 --> 00:20:54,363 The sentiment she was voicing 304 00:20:54,463 --> 00:20:58,042 'Jesus died for somebody's sins but not mine', 305 00:20:58,142 --> 00:21:07,843 # Jesus died for somebody's sins 306 00:21:11,236 --> 00:21:13,232 # but not mine. 307 00:21:13,921 --> 00:21:16,170 Absolutely iconic imagery. 308 00:21:16,270 --> 00:21:20,492 It had a street realism that was unmistakably punk, 309 00:21:20,592 --> 00:21:22,890 couldn't be anything else. 310 00:21:25,259 --> 00:21:27,632 The Patti Smith band recorded their first album 311 00:21:27,732 --> 00:21:32,131 at the studios immortalised by Jimmy Hendrix', 'Electric Lady', 312 00:21:32,331 --> 00:21:33,986 in Greenwich Village. 313 00:21:34,860 --> 00:21:38,704 They asked the Velvet Underground's John Cale, to produce the record. 314 00:21:41,213 --> 00:21:44,815 It was a punk spirit which informed the song at the heart of the album, 315 00:21:44,915 --> 00:21:45,710 'Horses'. 316 00:21:45,810 --> 00:21:52,305 # ...suddenly Johnny gets the feeling he's being surrounded by 317 00:21:52,605 --> 00:21:56,231 # Horses, horses, horses, horses 318 00:21:56,531 --> 00:21:59,840 Is it a punk song? Well, it's got three chords. 319 00:22:03,874 --> 00:22:06,281 Because they were really easy to pulse. 320 00:22:06,717 --> 00:22:10,783 You could just go underneath and it would kind of provide a soundtrack. 321 00:22:11,192 --> 00:22:14,507 You could talk over it, sing over it, 322 00:22:14,607 --> 00:22:16,840 slow it down, 323 00:22:18,237 --> 00:22:19,959 and then you could get really fast. 324 00:22:23,581 --> 00:22:27,215 And it allowed the song to travel. 325 00:22:27,972 --> 00:22:33,992 # Do you know how to pony like Bony Maroney 326 00:22:34,247 --> 00:22:39,031 It builds, it even changes rhythms from like sort of a shuffle feel 327 00:22:39,131 --> 00:22:46,535 to that sort of garage... band's straight four and four feeling. 328 00:22:46,635 --> 00:22:48,480 There is no syncopation. 329 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,135 It's not funky. 330 00:22:50,335 --> 00:22:51,724 It's very, you know... 331 00:22:52,886 --> 00:22:55,595 made by honkeys for honkeys, you know. 332 00:22:55,630 --> 00:22:58,764 # ...pen knives and jack knives and 333 00:22:58,964 --> 00:22:59,596 # Switch blades... 334 00:22:59,631 --> 00:23:02,351 'Horses', when it was released, had an immediate impact. 335 00:23:02,916 --> 00:23:05,879 The album cover with photography by Robert Mapplethorpe, 336 00:23:05,979 --> 00:23:08,840 was something quite new in the iconography of rock. 337 00:23:09,399 --> 00:23:11,111 She's wearing a man's shirt, 338 00:23:11,211 --> 00:23:13,460 she's got a man's jacket over her shoulder, 339 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,251 her tie is loosened. 340 00:23:15,351 --> 00:23:18,173 She's very... extremely slender. 341 00:23:18,273 --> 00:23:21,879 It was a shock at that time to see a woman be proudly a woman 342 00:23:21,979 --> 00:23:24,692 and yet so androgynous. 343 00:23:24,892 --> 00:23:29,658 And not caring whether she was gratifying of traditional... 344 00:23:29,858 --> 00:23:33,981 male expectations of what a woman needs to be to be sexy. 345 00:23:34,181 --> 00:23:36,254 # ...a place called space 346 00:23:37,271 --> 00:23:39,331 # It's a pretty little place... 347 00:23:39,531 --> 00:23:43,298 The punk attitude of Patti Smith was a revelation to those in the UK 348 00:23:43,398 --> 00:23:45,150 looking for new idols. 349 00:23:45,433 --> 00:23:48,161 It was utterly mindblowing. It was uh... 350 00:23:48,361 --> 00:23:53,081 Everything she sang about, the way she released all the words, 351 00:23:53,181 --> 00:23:56,817 the free flow, the strength of it, the passion of it, 352 00:23:56,917 --> 00:24:00,563 and the utter contemporariness of it all, it was like, 353 00:24:00,663 --> 00:24:03,957 this is it, this is my soul on record. 354 00:24:05,607 --> 00:24:10,741 In May, 1966, British fans were able to see their heroin for the first time. 355 00:24:10,941 --> 00:24:15,498 The Patti Smith band played a sellout gig at the Roundhouse, in London. 356 00:24:19,102 --> 00:24:21,792 They recorded a session for the BBC. 357 00:24:21,892 --> 00:24:24,336 # Horses, horses, horses, horses 358 00:24:24,436 --> 00:24:26,307 # Coming in in all directions 359 00:24:26,407 --> 00:24:31,984 # White, shining, silver studs with their nose in flames 360 00:24:32,084 --> 00:24:35,320 # He saw horses, horses, horses... 361 00:24:39,076 --> 00:24:44,621 # Do you know how to pony like Bony Maroney 362 00:24:45,292 --> 00:24:51,494 # Do you know how to twist, well it goes like this, it goes like this 363 00:24:51,594 --> 00:24:53,832 # Baby mash potato... 364 00:24:54,765 --> 00:24:57,770 They then accepted an invitation to see the Sex Pistols 365 00:24:57,870 --> 00:25:00,452 in their underground lair at the 100 Club. 366 00:25:00,976 --> 00:25:03,780 Someone, I think it might have been Chrissie Hynde, said, 367 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,605 "You have to go down and see this band. 368 00:25:05,705 --> 00:25:07,952 "They're called the Sex Pistols." 369 00:25:08,052 --> 00:25:10,688 I thought, "Wow! Interesting name." 370 00:25:11,389 --> 00:25:14,975 We went down to this grungy, underground pub, 371 00:25:15,075 --> 00:25:21,013 I think it was the Club 100, and they took the stage and they... 372 00:25:21,213 --> 00:25:24,189 immediately, before they even started playing, 373 00:25:24,289 --> 00:25:28,048 you know, Johnny Rotten started saying, 374 00:25:28,148 --> 00:25:30,902 "Oh! Did you go down at the Roundhouse the other night? 375 00:25:31,002 --> 00:25:33,972 "And see the hippies shaking a tambourine? 376 00:25:34,178 --> 00:25:37,097 "'orses, 'orses, 'orshit!" 377 00:25:37,297 --> 00:25:40,216 And I thought, "Man, that was a quick 15 minutes." 378 00:25:41,301 --> 00:25:43,560 It's like we're already obsolete! 379 00:25:44,458 --> 00:25:47,419 The taunting of these darlings of New York art punk 380 00:25:47,519 --> 00:25:50,290 made clear the differences between the two cities. 381 00:25:50,846 --> 00:25:55,132 The London bands were younger, they had a lot less art theory, 382 00:25:55,232 --> 00:25:59,410 they had, not necessarily more politics, though some did, 383 00:25:59,510 --> 00:26:03,209 but they had a lot more class rage. 384 00:26:03,309 --> 00:26:10,383 No matter how unfocussed or unexpressed, it was class rage. 385 00:26:10,483 --> 00:26:15,077 Fundamentally, the New York punks were bohemians, or aspired to be, 386 00:26:15,177 --> 00:26:18,394 the London punks were "yobs", or aspired to be. 387 00:26:21,956 --> 00:26:26,246 The Sex Pistols took their one band search and destroy mission nation wide 388 00:26:26,346 --> 00:26:30,326 when they traveled to the Manchester studios of Granada TV. 389 00:26:30,588 --> 00:26:33,654 You can hear them warming up in the background even now. 390 00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:48,167 For their first TV appearance, they played their second great anthem, 391 00:26:48,367 --> 00:26:49,928 'Anarchy in the UK'. 392 00:26:50,028 --> 00:26:53,524 # I am an antichrist 393 00:26:53,624 --> 00:26:57,086 # I am an anarchist 394 00:26:57,286 --> 00:26:58,936 # Dont know what I want but 395 00:26:59,036 --> 00:27:00,669 # I know how to get it 396 00:27:00,769 --> 00:27:05,654 # I wanna destroy the passer by cos I 397 00:27:06,912 --> 00:27:09,008 # I wanna be anarchy! 398 00:27:09,208 --> 00:27:11,876 Lydon's performance was driven by cold fury. 399 00:27:11,976 --> 00:27:14,860 His lyrics, a brutal expression of rage. 400 00:27:17,460 --> 00:27:21,605 # Anarchy for the UK 401 00:27:21,805 --> 00:27:25,197 # It's coming sometime and maybe 402 00:27:25,397 --> 00:27:28,745 # I give a wrong time stop a traffic line 403 00:27:28,845 --> 00:27:30,708 # Your future dream... 404 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,876 I was an angry young man, I still am probably, 405 00:27:33,976 --> 00:27:35,247 an angry old man. 406 00:27:35,347 --> 00:27:37,197 You're not gonna take that away from me. 407 00:27:37,397 --> 00:27:41,697 I don't think my feelings about how society's downtrodden 408 00:27:41,797 --> 00:27:43,898 my kind of working class people, 409 00:27:43,998 --> 00:27:46,157 I don't think those are false emotions at all. 410 00:27:46,257 --> 00:27:49,520 It's not put on, there's no airs and graces about it. 411 00:27:50,363 --> 00:27:54,023 We suffer, and you can fuck off for it! 412 00:28:05,911 --> 00:28:09,270 # How many ways to get what you want 413 00:28:09,470 --> 00:28:12,809 # I use the best I use the rest 414 00:28:13,009 --> 00:28:21,370 # I use the enemy I use anarchy cos I 415 00:28:22,621 --> 00:28:29,132 # I wanna be anarchy! 416 00:28:29,487 --> 00:28:35,246 When the Pistols appeared on that program playing 'Anarchy in the UK', 417 00:28:35,446 --> 00:28:39,987 it seemed almost inconceivable that the performance 418 00:28:40,187 --> 00:28:42,935 was gonna stay inside the TV set. 419 00:28:43,035 --> 00:28:47,701 It was like Rotten was gonna crawl out the screen and into your living room, 420 00:28:47,801 --> 00:28:50,311 and be right there in the room with you. 421 00:28:50,411 --> 00:28:57,317 It was one of the most utterly immediate things I've ever seen on TV. 422 00:28:57,417 --> 00:28:58,665 # ...the IRA 423 00:28:58,865 --> 00:29:03,570 # I thought it was the UK or just 424 00:29:05,024 --> 00:29:09,897 # Another country 425 00:29:10,097 --> 00:29:15,060 'Anarchy in the UK' singalled a real intent to take on the rock establishment. 426 00:29:15,964 --> 00:29:21,018 It's anarchy in the UK, and so that shows an ambition. 427 00:29:21,118 --> 00:29:24,414 Here was a group that was not afraid to say, 428 00:29:24,514 --> 00:29:28,059 "Right, we are going nation wide. 429 00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:30,887 "This is it. This is about the whole of the country. 430 00:29:30,987 --> 00:29:35,826 "It's not just about a couple of clubs and a couple of hundred kids in London, 431 00:29:35,926 --> 00:29:39,950 "or Manchester or whatever. It's actually, this is about the whole country." 432 00:29:42,290 --> 00:29:45,799 Now, in the summer of 1976, in London and beyond, 433 00:29:45,899 --> 00:29:48,158 there was an explosion of creativity. 434 00:29:48,929 --> 00:29:51,252 Brian James, playing with his new band, 435 00:29:51,253 --> 00:29:53,932 'The Damned', noticed something in the air. 436 00:29:54,663 --> 00:29:57,233 It was a growing thing, you'd see like... 437 00:29:57,333 --> 00:29:59,078 first of all there'd be like a few people, 438 00:29:59,178 --> 00:30:01,015 and you'd talk to them after the gig, you know, 439 00:30:01,115 --> 00:30:02,148 and stuff like that. 440 00:30:02,348 --> 00:30:04,972 And then, the next day you'd see them, and there'd be another couple. 441 00:30:05,072 --> 00:30:06,576 And it would be the same out in the streets. 442 00:30:06,676 --> 00:30:09,717 There'd be maybe one punk amongst all this sea of long hair. 443 00:30:09,817 --> 00:30:11,345 And then there'd be a few more. 444 00:30:11,545 --> 00:30:14,804 And then, just gradually built and built and built 445 00:30:15,004 --> 00:30:16,815 and you'd see people making their own clothes, 446 00:30:16,915 --> 00:30:19,959 which was the cool thing, and they made their own statements. 447 00:30:20,159 --> 00:30:23,301 You know, sort of living out their fantasies, if you like. 448 00:30:23,401 --> 00:30:26,555 That was the cool thing about it. That was a very, very cool thing. 449 00:30:26,655 --> 00:30:28,967 The audience become part of the whole show, 450 00:30:29,067 --> 00:30:32,134 become part of the whole event, you know, the experience. 451 00:30:32,937 --> 00:30:36,258 Punk was taking rock back to where it belonged. 452 00:30:36,617 --> 00:30:40,378 It was about self interpretation, empowerment, individuality. 453 00:30:40,843 --> 00:30:41,923 Doing your own thing... 454 00:30:42,023 --> 00:30:44,694 I can't tell you how much this DIY thing, 455 00:30:44,794 --> 00:30:46,914 how important it was. I mean, it worked for me. 456 00:30:47,014 --> 00:30:50,351 I reinvented myself through the whole punk-rock thing. 457 00:30:50,451 --> 00:30:52,876 When it kicked off and everybody's picking up a guitar, 458 00:30:52,976 --> 00:30:55,009 I wanted to pick up something too, but... 459 00:30:55,109 --> 00:30:59,196 very quickly the stage was full up, so I picked up a super-8 camera 460 00:30:59,296 --> 00:31:01,223 and reinvented myself as a film maker. 461 00:31:01,323 --> 00:31:04,395 And super-8 films, they only lasted about three minutes, 462 00:31:04,495 --> 00:31:07,106 and luckily for me, everything the punks had to say, 463 00:31:07,206 --> 00:31:08,460 fitted into three minutes. 464 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,272 Even when I interviewed them, they usually ran out of things 465 00:31:10,372 --> 00:31:11,721 after about 2 and a half minutes. 466 00:31:11,821 --> 00:31:14,784 So it was hard and fast and stripped down. 467 00:31:18,450 --> 00:31:20,693 Bands began to form outside London, 468 00:31:21,217 --> 00:31:25,063 'The Buzzcocks' in Manchester now proved that you could take this DIY approach 469 00:31:25,163 --> 00:31:30,845 and apply, beyond fashion and street culture, to make punk's first DIY record. 470 00:31:31,406 --> 00:31:35,884 The recording was... 471 00:31:36,756 --> 00:31:40,340 I don't know, I could believe we did it in half an hour. 472 00:31:41,706 --> 00:31:45,252 My memory is the overall budget for the whole thing was... 473 00:31:46,263 --> 00:31:49,269 everything was about 500 quid. 474 00:31:49,369 --> 00:31:52,516 It wasn't intended to be a statement or anything, 475 00:31:52,616 --> 00:31:57,565 but it adhered the principles of what punk was. 476 00:31:58,004 --> 00:31:59,239 And that was... 477 00:31:59,439 --> 00:32:02,280 if you can do it yourself, then what's stopping you? 478 00:32:02,380 --> 00:32:06,794 And that because it's not polished, it's not pristine and perfect 479 00:32:06,894 --> 00:32:08,962 it doesn't mean it's not any good. 480 00:32:09,062 --> 00:32:10,609 In fact it could have its own quality. 481 00:32:10,709 --> 00:32:16,787 That being imperfect it has more character, more life. 482 00:32:18,877 --> 00:32:19,908 One Buzzcocks' song, 483 00:32:20,008 --> 00:32:23,637 with its ironic, playful twist on punk's taste for alienation, 484 00:32:23,737 --> 00:32:25,031 became a classic. 485 00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:28,362 # Yeah - well - I say what I mean 486 00:32:28,672 --> 00:32:30,492 # I say what comes to my mind 487 00:32:30,693 --> 00:32:33,661 # because I never get around to things 488 00:32:33,887 --> 00:32:35,704 # I live a straight - straight line 489 00:32:35,705 --> 00:32:37,900 # You know me - I'm acting dumb 490 00:32:38,001 --> 00:32:40,618 # you know the scene - very humdrum 491 00:32:40,619 --> 00:32:43,952 # Boredom - boredom 492 00:32:45,357 --> 00:32:46,641 # Boredom 493 00:32:50,193 --> 00:32:55,469 Well, 'Boredom' was a... 494 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,365 that was gonna be a safe topic. 495 00:32:59,861 --> 00:33:03,590 That would be in style, that was to be the kind of thing 496 00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:06,609 one would think about, and one would write about. 497 00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:12,295 # Boredom, boredom... boredom. 498 00:33:12,330 --> 00:33:16,016 We wanted it not to be pleasant and easy listening, 499 00:33:16,116 --> 00:33:18,285 but to be a bit challenging in a way. 500 00:33:18,497 --> 00:33:23,557 I would just play around with things and see what sounded right. 501 00:33:23,616 --> 00:33:26,441 # Because my future ain't what it was 502 00:33:26,561 --> 00:33:28,107 # well I think I know the words that I mean 503 00:33:28,142 --> 00:33:30,524 'Boredom' was sophisticated, 504 00:33:30,724 --> 00:33:34,414 'Boredom' had stops in it. The song stopped 505 00:33:34,614 --> 00:33:37,093 and we hadn't had that before. 506 00:33:44,365 --> 00:33:46,395 When it came to the guitar solo, 507 00:33:46,495 --> 00:33:49,345 I wanted a parody of a guitar solo. 508 00:33:49,526 --> 00:33:50,922 So instead of playing lots and lots of notes 509 00:33:51,022 --> 00:33:52,933 I just repeated the same tune. 510 00:33:53,851 --> 00:33:54,896 Doing... 511 00:33:56,969 --> 00:33:59,541 A guitar solo which didn't rock all the rolls 512 00:33:59,576 --> 00:34:01,569 of what a guitar solo was supposed to be. 513 00:34:03,115 --> 00:34:05,621 But it works because of the idea of boredom, 514 00:34:05,721 --> 00:34:07,282 having something which is... 515 00:34:07,482 --> 00:34:11,119 adds nothing to it at all, which goes on and on and on... 516 00:34:12,277 --> 00:34:14,688 It fitted in with that concept. 517 00:34:19,259 --> 00:34:23,436 The decisive influence on the early sound of band like Buzzcocks in the UK, 518 00:34:23,536 --> 00:34:27,173 was the revved up minimalism of The Ramones in NY. 519 00:34:34,122 --> 00:34:37,246 The Ramones recorded their first album in a matter of days 520 00:34:37,346 --> 00:34:40,075 at a studio in Radio City Music Hall. 521 00:34:41,667 --> 00:34:44,251 That was done quickly, inexpensively, 522 00:34:44,351 --> 00:34:48,689 and it sort of suited our ways of working anyway. 523 00:34:48,789 --> 00:34:51,546 With the impatience of the band and everything so... 524 00:34:51,646 --> 00:34:55,302 In a way it lent itself to the sort of 525 00:34:55,402 --> 00:34:59,899 lo-fi interesting quality of what it became. 526 00:34:59,999 --> 00:35:03,288 So the first album is sort of a statement of its own. 527 00:35:03,690 --> 00:35:05,775 The first song on the album was one of the greatest 528 00:35:05,875 --> 00:35:07,820 to come out of this punk uprising. 529 00:35:08,437 --> 00:35:09,670 'Blitzkrieg Bop' 530 00:35:09,770 --> 00:35:10,995 Take it Diddy. 531 00:35:27,413 --> 00:35:29,151 I was walking down the street 532 00:35:29,251 --> 00:35:32,756 and it just occurred to me, it'd be great if The Ramones had a chant song. 533 00:35:33,636 --> 00:35:40,608 # Hey ho, let's go Hey ho, let's go 534 00:35:40,708 --> 00:35:42,492 # They're forming in straight line 535 00:35:43,113 --> 00:35:45,120 # They're going through a tight wind 536 00:35:45,467 --> 00:35:47,247 # The kids are losing their minds 537 00:35:47,348 --> 00:35:48,644 # The Blitzkrieg Bop 538 00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:52,010 # They're piling in the back seat 539 00:35:52,602 --> 00:35:54,254 # They're generating steam heat 540 00:35:54,678 --> 00:35:56,593 # Pulsating to the back beat 541 00:35:56,694 --> 00:35:58,065 # The Blitzkrieg Bop 542 00:35:58,912 --> 00:36:00,887 I was in this loft actually. 543 00:36:01,050 --> 00:36:03,290 It happened in this loft. I was... 544 00:36:03,426 --> 00:36:05,289 I was playing Joy's guitar, 545 00:36:05,389 --> 00:36:09,338 and as I was playing it, I just started playing 'Blitzkrieg Bop', 546 00:36:09,438 --> 00:36:11,466 it just came up to me... it just came to me. 547 00:36:13,448 --> 00:36:16,612 And that night I went home and I wrote the song. 548 00:36:16,712 --> 00:36:19,037 I put together the 'Hey ho, let's go' with that, 549 00:36:19,137 --> 00:36:22,119 and I took it to the next rehearsal. 550 00:36:22,319 --> 00:36:23,683 And that was 'Blitkrieg Bop'. 551 00:36:23,761 --> 00:36:24,823 # Pulsating to the back beat 552 00:36:24,923 --> 00:36:26,342 # The Blitzkrieg Bop 553 00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:31,238 Songs like 'Blitzkrieg Bop' had immediate appeal to bands forming 554 00:36:31,338 --> 00:36:33,468 during the UK summer of punk. 555 00:36:34,086 --> 00:36:37,153 It was like that kind of... like a rallying call. 556 00:36:37,867 --> 00:36:39,607 You know, "Hey ho, let's go". 557 00:36:40,901 --> 00:36:47,456 Not really philosophical lyrics, but it was about doing things. 558 00:36:47,556 --> 00:36:50,585 Talking about punk being about action, 559 00:36:50,685 --> 00:36:53,958 really rather than just... theorising. 560 00:36:54,058 --> 00:36:54,990 # The Blitzkrieg Bop 561 00:36:56,402 --> 00:37:01,095 # Hey ho, let's go 562 00:37:06,947 --> 00:37:08,696 When we first heard The Ramones' album, 563 00:37:08,796 --> 00:37:11,938 how influential that was, because it was just like totally... 564 00:37:12,138 --> 00:37:19,125 like... really short songs, really hard attack, no nonsense. 565 00:37:19,225 --> 00:37:22,651 It was just like cut down bare to the bone, you know, 566 00:37:22,751 --> 00:37:25,214 and that was inspiring. 567 00:37:28,213 --> 00:37:31,092 Inspired by the stripped down formula of The Ramones, 568 00:37:31,192 --> 00:37:33,433 The Clash played their first gigs. 569 00:37:33,985 --> 00:37:38,504 # They offered me the office, offered me the shop 570 00:37:39,172 --> 00:37:43,639 # They said I better take anything they got 571 00:37:44,095 --> 00:37:46,649 # Do you wanna make tea at the BBC? 572 00:37:46,750 --> 00:37:50,706 # Do you wanna be, do really wanna be a cop? 573 00:37:50,784 --> 00:37:53,475 They looked great as a three man frontline. 574 00:37:53,575 --> 00:37:55,209 Strummer's a great front man... 575 00:37:56,174 --> 00:37:57,648 as good as Lydon. 576 00:37:57,748 --> 00:38:01,350 So visually very strong, and it was very hard and fast. 577 00:38:01,450 --> 00:38:05,271 One 2 minute wonder after another. 578 00:38:05,371 --> 00:38:08,653 'What's my name', 'Cheat', 'Career opportunities'... 579 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:11,005 just really good. 580 00:38:11,105 --> 00:38:12,579 Fantastic song. 581 00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:15,029 # I hate the civil service rules 582 00:38:15,229 --> 00:38:18,901 # And I won't open letter bombs for you 583 00:38:20,023 --> 00:38:22,734 # Career opportunities are the ones that never knock 584 00:38:22,879 --> 00:38:25,335 # Every job they offer you is to keep out the dock 585 00:38:25,436 --> 00:38:28,121 # Career opportunities, the ones that never knock 586 00:38:28,265 --> 00:38:30,613 Although The Clash took inspiration from New York, 587 00:38:30,713 --> 00:38:33,565 they took their music in a completely new direction. 588 00:38:34,054 --> 00:38:36,890 They created a punk that was a kind of protest music, 589 00:38:36,990 --> 00:38:38,598 engaged with the world. 590 00:38:39,494 --> 00:38:44,176 While John Lydon, Johnny Rotten, had a rage against the system, 591 00:38:44,276 --> 00:38:46,094 Joe Strummer had a more evolved, 592 00:38:46,194 --> 00:38:49,249 more finely tuned sort of political awareness. 593 00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:53,405 He regarded his ancestors as people like Woody Guthrie. 594 00:38:53,505 --> 00:38:55,897 He regarded himself as a leftist. 595 00:38:55,997 --> 00:38:59,507 Whereas John probably regarded himself as a 'Johnnist'. 596 00:39:00,456 --> 00:39:02,867 # Career opportunities, the ones that never knock 597 00:39:02,902 --> 00:39:05,609 I think the difference between us and the Pistols was that 598 00:39:05,709 --> 00:39:11,030 they had their massive impact but they didn't offer the same kind of 599 00:39:11,130 --> 00:39:13,367 hope that we did. 600 00:39:14,967 --> 00:39:17,756 The Clash wrote songs of experience. 601 00:39:18,755 --> 00:39:20,615 Near where they were living in West London, 602 00:39:20,715 --> 00:39:23,937 summer's end, 1976, the Notting Hill Carnival 603 00:39:24,037 --> 00:39:27,003 ended with fighting between black youth and the Police. 604 00:39:27,103 --> 00:39:29,540 Joe Strummer and Paul Simenon from the band, 605 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,977 were caught up in the mayhem. 606 00:39:31,077 --> 00:39:34,600 So The Clash sat down and wrote a song inspired by the incident: 607 00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:36,136 'White Riot'. 608 00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:38,179 We was down there, me and him, 609 00:39:38,279 --> 00:39:41,009 we got searched by policemen, 610 00:39:41,722 --> 00:39:43,000 looking for bricks. 611 00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:46,358 And then later on we got searched by Rasta 612 00:39:46,458 --> 00:39:48,479 looking for pound notes in our pockets, so... 613 00:39:48,579 --> 00:39:50,630 And all we had was bricks and bottles. 614 00:39:54,331 --> 00:39:56,717 # White riot, I want a riot 615 00:39:56,817 --> 00:39:58,795 # White riot, a riot of my own 616 00:39:58,895 --> 00:40:01,240 # White riot, I want a riot 617 00:40:01,340 --> 00:40:03,490 # White riot, a riot of my own 618 00:40:03,590 --> 00:40:05,750 # Black man gotta lot a problems 619 00:40:05,851 --> 00:40:08,004 # But they don't mind throwing a brick 620 00:40:08,105 --> 00:40:10,120 # White people go to school 621 00:40:10,221 --> 00:40:12,638 # Where they teach you how to be thick 622 00:40:12,739 --> 00:40:14,398 # An' everybody's doing 623 00:40:14,958 --> 00:40:16,799 # Just what they're told to 624 00:40:17,426 --> 00:40:19,164 # An' nobody wants 625 00:40:19,561 --> 00:40:22,122 # To go to jail! 626 00:40:22,431 --> 00:40:24,817 # White riot, I want a riot 627 00:40:24,817 --> 00:40:26,795 # White riot, a riot of my own 628 00:40:26,895 --> 00:40:29,240 # White riot, I want a riot 629 00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:31,256 # White riot, a riot of my own 630 00:40:31,356 --> 00:40:32,799 The song was about 631 00:40:32,899 --> 00:40:36,633 white people getting up and doing it for themselves, because... 632 00:40:36,733 --> 00:40:40,993 their black neighbours were doing it for themselves, and so it was... 633 00:40:41,093 --> 00:40:43,888 the riots and whatever. So it was time for... 634 00:40:43,988 --> 00:40:47,690 the white people to get on with their own situation, 635 00:40:47,790 --> 00:40:50,462 which I suppose was the beginning of the punk thing. 636 00:40:50,808 --> 00:40:52,817 # White riot, I want a riot 637 00:40:52,917 --> 00:40:54,931 # White riot, a riot of my own 638 00:40:55,031 --> 00:40:57,163 # White riot, I want a riot 639 00:40:57,263 --> 00:40:58,917 # White riot 640 00:41:00,190 --> 00:41:01,868 # I do... 641 00:41:08,124 --> 00:41:10,273 # White riot, I want a riot 642 00:41:10,373 --> 00:41:12,362 # White riot, a riot of my own 643 00:41:12,462 --> 00:41:14,633 # White riot, I want a riot 644 00:41:14,733 --> 00:41:16,736 # White riot, a riot of my own 645 00:41:21,692 --> 00:41:24,735 But late in 1976, outrage and hype 646 00:41:24,835 --> 00:41:27,646 threatened to destroy the achievements of the early punk groups. 647 00:41:27,746 --> 00:41:32,305 The Sex Pistols were booked to appear live on an early evening news show. 648 00:41:34,028 --> 00:41:37,263 - Now, I want to know one thing. - What? 649 00:41:37,363 --> 00:41:39,822 Are you serious or just trying to make me laugh? 650 00:41:39,922 --> 00:41:40,842 No, it's all gone. Gone. 651 00:41:40,942 --> 00:41:41,646 - Really? - Yeah. 652 00:41:41,746 --> 00:41:43,114 No, but I mean about what you're doing. 653 00:41:43,214 --> 00:41:45,166 - Oh, yeah. - You are serious? 654 00:41:45,949 --> 00:41:48,500 Beethoven, Mozart, Bach have all died... 655 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,445 - They're all heroes of ours, ain't they? - Really? What do you say, sir? 656 00:41:52,545 --> 00:41:54,117 - They're wonderful people. - Are they? 657 00:41:54,217 --> 00:41:56,902 - Oh, yes. They really turn us on. - But they're dead! 658 00:41:57,002 --> 00:41:58,658 Well suppose they turn other people on. 659 00:41:59,573 --> 00:42:02,074 - That's just their tough shit. - It's what? 660 00:42:02,174 --> 00:42:03,818 Nothing, a rude word. 661 00:42:03,918 --> 00:42:05,094 Next question. 662 00:42:05,294 --> 00:42:07,396 No, no. What was the rude word? 663 00:42:07,596 --> 00:42:08,728 Shit. 664 00:42:08,828 --> 00:42:13,334 I accidentally took some amphetamine sulfate two days before, 665 00:42:13,434 --> 00:42:14,818 I didn't mean to... 666 00:42:16,394 --> 00:42:19,319 And, I'm speeding up my nut and so, you know, 667 00:42:19,419 --> 00:42:21,430 the whole thing was tense to me 668 00:42:21,530 --> 00:42:25,739 and I was goaded into swearing the 'shit' word. 669 00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:28,624 Was it really? Good Heavens! You frighten me to death. 670 00:42:28,724 --> 00:42:30,309 - Oh alright, Siegfried... - What about you, girls, behind? 671 00:42:30,409 --> 00:42:34,232 Enjoying the occasion was soon to be Banshee, Siouxsie Sioux. 672 00:42:34,332 --> 00:42:36,303 Are you worried or are you just enjoying yourself? 673 00:42:36,403 --> 00:42:37,318 Enjoying myself. 674 00:42:37,418 --> 00:42:38,188 - Are you? - Yeah. 675 00:42:38,288 --> 00:42:39,452 So I thought you were... 676 00:42:39,552 --> 00:42:41,604 - I always wanted to meet you. - Did you really? 677 00:42:41,704 --> 00:42:42,931 We'll meet afterwards, shall we? 678 00:42:43,569 --> 00:42:45,149 You dirty sod. 679 00:42:45,658 --> 00:42:47,227 You dirty old man! 680 00:42:47,327 --> 00:42:48,663 Keep going, chief. Keep going. 681 00:42:49,633 --> 00:42:52,696 Go on, you've got another five seconds, say something outrageous. 682 00:42:52,796 --> 00:42:54,107 You dirty bastard! 683 00:42:55,248 --> 00:42:56,602 You dirty fucker! 684 00:42:56,703 --> 00:42:57,797 What a clever boy! 685 00:42:57,892 --> 00:42:58,746 What a fucking rotter. 686 00:42:58,846 --> 00:43:00,089 Well, that's it for tonight. 687 00:43:00,189 --> 00:43:04,594 Well, it did make us popular... 688 00:43:04,694 --> 00:43:08,140 Well, no, it made us hugely unpopular, 689 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:09,950 which was much more fun. 690 00:43:10,050 --> 00:43:12,263 But it wasn't undeliberate, all right? 691 00:43:12,363 --> 00:43:14,485 And in the chaos of it, somehow or other, 692 00:43:14,585 --> 00:43:16,640 whatever message we had, got out. 693 00:43:16,740 --> 00:43:19,178 The word's out now, the game's up. 694 00:43:19,278 --> 00:43:21,074 The phoneys can leave the stage 695 00:43:21,174 --> 00:43:23,053 'cause the real deal is about to enter the world. 696 00:43:23,153 --> 00:43:24,191 And that's how it was. 697 00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:27,662 The Sex Pistols, supported by The Clash, 698 00:43:27,762 --> 00:43:30,177 already had a nation wide tour scheduled. 699 00:43:30,277 --> 00:43:32,411 Now, there was real trouble. 700 00:43:33,123 --> 00:43:34,794 Fleet Street were now chasing us. 701 00:43:34,894 --> 00:43:37,148 And it just... just changed. 702 00:43:37,248 --> 00:43:40,380 And then, a day or two later, we run off on the 'Anarchy Tour' 703 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,301 and we were pursued up and down across the Penines 704 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,669 by a flotilla of press cars. 705 00:43:47,769 --> 00:43:49,309 It was stupid. 706 00:43:49,954 --> 00:43:53,770 Along with tabloid frenzy, there was moral outrage and revulsion. 707 00:43:54,472 --> 00:43:57,670 I think it's degrading and disgusting 708 00:43:57,770 --> 00:44:00,671 for our children to hear and see such things. 709 00:44:00,771 --> 00:44:04,487 Local worthies did their best to put a stop to this punk nonsense. 710 00:44:04,587 --> 00:44:09,372 This protest is to make Wales know, to have the people of this town know 711 00:44:09,472 --> 00:44:11,105 that we do protest. 712 00:44:11,205 --> 00:44:12,867 The thing is they're outside, freezing. 713 00:44:15,713 --> 00:44:18,873 For a clean living, holy living, and proud living. 714 00:44:18,908 --> 00:44:20,590 They're entitled to do what they want. 715 00:44:21,804 --> 00:44:25,383 I think we had like 16 dates booked and... 716 00:44:25,483 --> 00:44:30,781 as we went up the motorway the dates got less and less. 717 00:44:30,881 --> 00:44:33,733 And I think we ended up doing only four. 718 00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:45,085 Into 1977, an unhappy Glen Matlock left the group. 719 00:44:45,185 --> 00:44:47,503 He was replaced by Sid Vicious. 720 00:44:47,603 --> 00:44:51,806 Sid was the perfect cartoon punk in terms of standing there 721 00:44:51,906 --> 00:44:57,915 in his leather jacket, pulling comic angry faces in photographs. 722 00:44:58,898 --> 00:45:01,971 After they got rid of Glen they had some great photos taken 723 00:45:02,071 --> 00:45:05,394 but they never again wrote a decent song. 724 00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:07,325 Increasingly unable to play live, 725 00:45:07,425 --> 00:45:11,199 the revamped Pistols recorded the last great song writing collaboration 726 00:45:11,299 --> 00:45:12,786 between Matlock and Rotten. 727 00:45:13,644 --> 00:45:15,715 # God save the queen 728 00:45:16,738 --> 00:45:18,939 # The fascist regime 729 00:45:19,893 --> 00:45:22,634 # They made you a moron 730 00:45:23,186 --> 00:45:25,266 # Potential H-bomb 731 00:45:26,958 --> 00:45:29,680 'God Save the Queen' is just a rant. 732 00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:33,794 It's chorusless but it seems to be... 733 00:45:34,290 --> 00:45:36,228 a proper song, but it ain't. 734 00:45:36,338 --> 00:45:37,485 And I like that. 735 00:45:37,585 --> 00:45:39,707 Rules are for fools. 736 00:45:39,729 --> 00:45:42,342 # Don't be told what you want 737 00:45:42,542 --> 00:45:44,121 # Don't be told what you need 738 00:45:44,156 --> 00:45:47,954 'God save the Queen' was released during the summer of the Queen's Silver Jubilee, 739 00:45:48,054 --> 00:45:51,343 promoted by a brilliantly anarchic marketing campaign. 740 00:45:52,139 --> 00:45:53,987 # God save the queen 741 00:45:55,061 --> 00:45:57,175 # We mean it man 742 00:45:57,549 --> 00:46:00,225 With all that build-up, with all that feeling, 743 00:46:00,325 --> 00:46:03,307 it's incredibly exciting, it's incredibly well drilled. 744 00:46:03,407 --> 00:46:05,150 Everybody is... on it like that. 745 00:46:05,250 --> 00:46:07,193 # God save the Queen, 746 00:46:08,091 --> 00:46:10,888 # for tourists are money 747 00:46:12,405 --> 00:46:14,046 And it has just fantastic lyrics. 748 00:46:14,699 --> 00:46:18,494 'England's dreaming' and 'Tourist's are money', 749 00:46:18,594 --> 00:46:19,655 and 'the mad parade'. 750 00:46:19,755 --> 00:46:20,845 Wonderful lyrics. 751 00:46:22,929 --> 00:46:25,341 There was one inspired publicity stunt, 752 00:46:25,441 --> 00:46:29,364 a boat trip on the Thames the evening of the Jubilee celebrations. 753 00:46:30,075 --> 00:46:32,117 We did know what we were up to. 754 00:46:32,217 --> 00:46:37,272 Singing 'Anarchy' and 'God Save the Queen' outside the Houses of Parliament 755 00:46:37,372 --> 00:46:39,939 as loud and raucous as you like... 756 00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:42,876 was a good thing. 757 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,503 A good statement. 758 00:46:45,603 --> 00:46:48,319 A good day out in Rotten World. 759 00:46:54,652 --> 00:46:57,582 And then it has this rather desolate 760 00:46:57,682 --> 00:47:01,178 and very emotional chant of 'No future' at the end, 761 00:47:01,278 --> 00:47:02,474 where the rest of the band join in. 762 00:47:02,574 --> 00:47:05,286 And that was kind of very touching as well. 763 00:47:06,535 --> 00:47:09,254 # And England's dreaming 764 00:47:10,350 --> 00:47:13,499 # No future 765 00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:16,708 # No future 766 00:47:16,824 --> 00:47:21,621 # No future for you 767 00:47:22,009 --> 00:47:24,859 These were subjects never discussed before. 768 00:47:25,624 --> 00:47:28,672 To even think of the Royal Family as subject matter in a song 769 00:47:28,772 --> 00:47:31,956 in any way but lauding their wonderfulness, 770 00:47:32,056 --> 00:47:35,411 was... I don't know, considered a crime. 771 00:47:57,730 --> 00:48:01,903 Into 1977, punk's spirit of adventure was picked up by bands 772 00:48:02,003 --> 00:48:04,022 fronted by women, like Siouxsie Sioux, 773 00:48:04,057 --> 00:48:06,317 who'd been close to the first punk pioneers. 774 00:48:06,765 --> 00:48:08,907 The whole point about punk for me was... 775 00:48:09,007 --> 00:48:10,303 it had to be new. 776 00:48:10,603 --> 00:48:13,647 Something new. Something that hadn't been done before. 777 00:48:13,747 --> 00:48:16,795 As soon as you saw Siouxsie and the Banshees or The Slits... 778 00:48:16,895 --> 00:48:17,989 this is something new. 779 00:48:18,089 --> 00:48:21,245 No girls had made that kind of noise before. 780 00:48:22,593 --> 00:48:24,150 # He is a boy 781 00:48:25,171 --> 00:48:27,204 # He's very thin 782 00:48:27,634 --> 00:48:29,763 # Until tomorrow 783 00:48:30,081 --> 00:48:31,069 # Took heroin 784 00:48:31,070 --> 00:48:32,189 # Don't like himself... 785 00:48:32,224 --> 00:48:35,502 Viv Albertine, so inspired by the example of Patti Smith, 786 00:48:35,602 --> 00:48:37,511 now had the chance to do it herself, 787 00:48:37,611 --> 00:48:39,822 with the all-girl band The Slits. 788 00:48:39,922 --> 00:48:42,540 It didn't matter in the early days that we couldn't play. 789 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,260 It just mattered that you had the passion... 790 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,141 And we could play well enough just to all start at the same time. 791 00:48:48,241 --> 00:48:50,084 We didn't play well enough to all finish at the same time. 792 00:48:50,184 --> 00:48:53,856 We all looked great, we hammered away, we shouted what we... 793 00:48:53,956 --> 00:48:55,201 what we wanted to say and... 794 00:48:55,301 --> 00:48:56,847 The energy was absolutely wild. 795 00:48:56,947 --> 00:48:59,818 We just made it up as we went along and each time we learnt a new chord 796 00:48:59,853 --> 00:49:01,728 we'd put it in a new song and write a new song about it... 797 00:49:01,828 --> 00:49:03,417 around the chord. 798 00:49:04,310 --> 00:49:07,615 The Slits were willing to embrace new sounds and rhythms. 799 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,658 # Typical girls get upset to quickly 800 00:49:13,659 --> 00:49:18,586 # Typical girls can't control themselves 801 00:49:18,686 --> 00:49:20,705 # Typical girls... 802 00:49:20,811 --> 00:49:24,045 The boy bands in punk were very much rock music, 803 00:49:24,145 --> 00:49:28,442 you know, 4/4 time, based on 12 bar blues rhythm, 804 00:49:28,542 --> 00:49:30,659 and we felt very much that as girls 805 00:49:30,759 --> 00:49:33,510 we didn't feel this rigid kind of rhythm within us. 806 00:49:33,610 --> 00:49:36,516 We felt much more... we wanted to get across our feminine rhythms. 807 00:49:36,616 --> 00:49:40,292 'Typical Girls' was this weird lolloping sort of rhythm but... 808 00:49:40,392 --> 00:49:42,665 that's what we felt we wanted to get across. 809 00:49:42,765 --> 00:49:43,722 This is who we were, you know. 810 00:49:43,822 --> 00:49:46,768 Punk was open enough to allow us to do that. 811 00:49:51,873 --> 00:49:57,137 Into 1978, the Sex Pistols, faced with continuing problems in the UK, 812 00:49:57,237 --> 00:49:59,128 decided to break America. 813 00:49:59,228 --> 00:50:01,584 To show the yanks who were the real punks. 814 00:50:01,684 --> 00:50:05,029 Instead, America broke the Pistols. 815 00:50:05,186 --> 00:50:06,441 Photographer Bob Gruen, 816 00:50:06,541 --> 00:50:09,600 was a witness to the band's very public self destruction, 817 00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:11,413 with Vicious the leading man. 818 00:50:13,057 --> 00:50:15,217 I had decided not to be in front of the stage. 819 00:50:15,317 --> 00:50:16,603 I tried to get on the side 820 00:50:16,703 --> 00:50:18,610 and watch the action from a little bit of distance, 821 00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:20,119 'cause I didn't want to be in the... 822 00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:23,263 the fray. It was like a battleground in front of the band. 823 00:50:25,607 --> 00:50:27,078 And one night I remember Sid 824 00:50:27,178 --> 00:50:30,921 had this interchange between these girls in the front and... 825 00:50:31,021 --> 00:50:33,745 at one point a girl kind of motioned for him to come a little closer 826 00:50:33,780 --> 00:50:36,377 and he leaned over and she punched him right in the nose. 827 00:50:36,477 --> 00:50:40,633 And he had blood pouring out of his nose and down his face and chest... 828 00:50:40,733 --> 00:50:42,569 and a big smile on his face. 829 00:50:42,669 --> 00:50:44,050 Like he really enjoyed it. 830 00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:47,637 I'd never seen anybody react that way to being punched in the nose. 831 00:50:47,737 --> 00:50:51,044 And then he started taking the blood and splashing it back at the girl, 832 00:50:51,144 --> 00:50:53,120 and she was spitting it back at him and... 833 00:50:53,220 --> 00:50:55,954 then the blood started to dry up and... 834 00:50:56,054 --> 00:50:58,953 he went over to his amp and took a bottle and he smashed on the amp 835 00:50:59,053 --> 00:51:00,746 and starting cutting his chest, 836 00:51:00,846 --> 00:51:04,460 basically to make more blood, I think, to keep the game going. 837 00:51:08,006 --> 00:51:11,686 They ended their last gig in San Francisco playing 'No fun', 838 00:51:11,786 --> 00:51:15,947 a nod to the godfathers of punk, 'Iggy Pop and the Stooges'. 839 00:51:17,792 --> 00:51:22,774 You'll get one number and one number only 'cause I'm a lazy bastard. 840 00:51:25,718 --> 00:51:27,593 This is 'No fun'. 841 00:51:29,622 --> 00:51:35,453 # No fun, my babe no fun 842 00:51:36,316 --> 00:51:41,910 # No fun, my babe no fun 843 00:51:43,408 --> 00:51:46,526 # No fun to be alone 844 00:51:46,726 --> 00:51:49,810 # Walking by my self 845 00:51:50,248 --> 00:51:52,962 # No fun to be alone 846 00:51:53,256 --> 00:51:59,210 # In love with nobody else 847 00:52:09,217 --> 00:52:13,802 # No, no fun, no fun 848 00:52:14,002 --> 00:52:16,684 I suppose all of us felt that it was no fun. 849 00:52:16,784 --> 00:52:19,535 It was really no fun at all. 850 00:52:19,635 --> 00:52:22,240 We really got the pain of that song. 851 00:52:22,340 --> 00:52:25,930 We took it to the extreme edge of really no fun. 852 00:52:26,030 --> 00:52:28,455 Oh, bollocks! Why should I carry on? 853 00:52:32,037 --> 00:52:36,091 This is really not fun... and it wasn't. 854 00:52:36,864 --> 00:52:39,111 # It's no fun at all 855 00:52:39,220 --> 00:52:41,024 # No fun 856 00:53:08,202 --> 00:53:10,996 Ever get the feeling you're being cheated? 857 00:53:11,083 --> 00:53:12,271 Good night. 858 00:53:14,463 --> 00:53:17,073 At the very last gig, "ever get the feeling you're being cheated?", 859 00:53:17,173 --> 00:53:21,218 was directed straight at the whole world, including us. 860 00:53:21,391 --> 00:53:24,293 Because I was feeling cheated by that point. 861 00:53:25,658 --> 00:53:28,067 By the time the Sex Pistols finally broke up, 862 00:53:28,167 --> 00:53:31,681 there was a feeling that punk had become the very thing it had set out to destroy. 863 00:53:31,781 --> 00:53:32,914 It was predicable, 864 00:53:33,014 --> 00:53:33,938 boring. 865 00:53:34,987 --> 00:53:38,696 Tired of this conformity, Howard Devoto left Buzzcocks, 866 00:53:38,796 --> 00:53:40,821 but Pete Shelley stayed, 867 00:53:40,921 --> 00:53:43,835 fusing punk attitude with a taste for a good tune, 868 00:53:43,935 --> 00:53:45,495 to write the perfect pop song. 869 00:53:45,595 --> 00:53:47,303 A new one from our next album, 870 00:53:47,403 --> 00:53:50,361 'Ever Fallen in Love (with Someone You Shouldn't've)' 871 00:53:52,988 --> 00:53:54,586 It wasn't *** 872 00:53:56,904 --> 00:53:58,390 It was just down to the songs, 873 00:53:58,490 --> 00:54:00,738 let the songs have good melodies and... 874 00:54:01,519 --> 00:54:02,876 that's fine. 875 00:54:03,146 --> 00:54:05,867 # You spurn my natural emotions 876 00:54:05,967 --> 00:54:08,356 # You make me feel like dirt 877 00:54:08,456 --> 00:54:09,625 # And I'm hurt 878 00:54:14,152 --> 00:54:16,355 # And if I start a commotion 879 00:54:16,455 --> 00:54:18,892 # I run the risk of losing you 880 00:54:18,992 --> 00:54:20,655 # And that's worse 881 00:54:24,416 --> 00:54:26,524 # Ever fallen in love with someone 882 00:54:26,624 --> 00:54:27,890 # Ever fallen in love 883 00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:29,263 # In love with someone 884 00:54:29,363 --> 00:54:30,619 # Ever fallen in love 885 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,976 # In love with someone You shouldn't've fallen in love with 886 00:54:36,743 --> 00:54:39,395 It was The Clash who tried to keep punk honest 887 00:54:39,495 --> 00:54:43,692 remaining close to their fans and continuing their political commitment. 888 00:54:44,268 --> 00:54:46,750 But they were impatient to move on musically. 889 00:54:47,066 --> 00:54:48,509 We do the same thing... 890 00:54:48,609 --> 00:54:50,230 who wants to know... 891 00:54:50,330 --> 00:54:51,603 after a while? 892 00:54:51,975 --> 00:54:54,272 It makes people sick in the head to do that. 893 00:54:54,372 --> 00:54:57,820 So we have to always try new things 894 00:54:58,645 --> 00:55:02,395 and like everyone's a load of like sheep 895 00:55:02,495 --> 00:55:06,051 going, "It's horrible", or "It's nice". 896 00:55:06,718 --> 00:55:08,330 But they don't fucking know. 897 00:55:14,153 --> 00:55:17,117 The Clash decided to explore a range of influences 898 00:55:17,217 --> 00:55:21,900 from rockabilly to reggae on their 1979 album, 'London Calling'. 899 00:55:22,698 --> 00:55:25,931 # London calling and I don't wanna shout 900 00:55:26,031 --> 00:55:29,317 # But while we were talking I saw you nodding out 901 00:55:29,517 --> 00:55:32,726 # London calling, see we ain't got no high 902 00:55:32,826 --> 00:55:36,228 # Except for that one with the yellowy eyes 903 00:55:36,359 --> 00:55:39,577 # The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in 904 00:55:39,919 --> 00:55:45,676 It was really The Clash who having begun as a defining punk band, 905 00:55:45,776 --> 00:55:50,527 then attempted to see what else they could turn their hands to, 906 00:55:50,627 --> 00:55:58,574 apply their talent to a whole other bunch of styles and influences, 907 00:55:58,674 --> 00:56:03,558 and demonstrated that while you still have the punk gene, 908 00:56:03,658 --> 00:56:06,587 as long as you don't lose it, you can take it anywhere. 909 00:56:08,299 --> 00:56:10,046 By the time of 'London Calling', 910 00:56:10,146 --> 00:56:12,782 The Clash had traveled from the extremeties of punk 911 00:56:12,882 --> 00:56:15,829 into the rock mainstream, where they became for a while 912 00:56:15,929 --> 00:56:17,842 the most important band in the world. 913 00:56:17,942 --> 00:56:20,969 # The ice age is coming, the sun's zooming in 914 00:56:21,069 --> 00:56:24,210 # Meltdown expected, the wheat is growing thin 915 00:56:24,310 --> 00:56:27,579 # Engines stop running, but I have no fear 916 00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:32,931 # Cause London is drowning and I, live by the river 917 00:56:46,158 --> 00:56:49,078 # London calling, yes, I was there, too 918 00:56:49,178 --> 00:56:52,402 # An' you know what they said? Well, some of it was true! 919 00:56:52,502 --> 00:56:55,823 # London calling at the top of the dial 920 00:56:55,923 --> 00:56:59,382 # And after all this, won't you give me a smile? 921 00:57:05,916 --> 00:57:09,709 # I never felt so much alike, like-a, like-a... 922 00:57:15,867 --> 00:57:18,314 As for John Lydon, after the Sex Pistols, 923 00:57:18,414 --> 00:57:21,571 punk's most provocative performer formed a new band. 924 00:57:21,671 --> 00:57:25,663 With 'Public Image' Lydon moved into his post-punk future, 925 00:57:25,763 --> 00:57:28,253 with something more personal, deliberately left field, 926 00:57:28,353 --> 00:57:30,264 surprisingly arty. 927 00:57:31,738 --> 00:57:36,191 I loved the idea of just getting into things without any rules at all. 928 00:57:36,291 --> 00:57:38,816 Going to much madder sounds. 929 00:57:39,016 --> 00:57:46,995 Infinite varieties of textures, tones, drones, caterwauls. 930 00:57:47,448 --> 00:57:48,812 Experiment. 931 00:57:48,823 --> 00:57:53,008 # Drive to the forest in a Japanese car 932 00:57:53,208 --> 00:57:57,654 # The smell of rubber on concrete tar 933 00:57:58,524 --> 00:58:02,301 # Hindsight does me no good 934 00:58:02,401 --> 00:58:05,240 # Standing naked in the back of the woods 935 00:58:05,340 --> 00:58:15,156 # The cassette played pop tones 936 00:58:16,217 --> 00:58:20,162 This was music created in punk's true spirit of liberation, 937 00:58:20,262 --> 00:58:22,196 which guaranteed that from now on 938 00:58:22,296 --> 00:58:25,018 anything was possible in rock music. 939 00:58:28,594 --> 00:58:31,950 # I can't forget the impression you made 940 00:58:32,051 --> 00:58:36,123 # You left a hole in the back of my head 941 00:58:36,158 --> 00:58:38,094 Next week on 'Seven Ages of Rock', 942 00:58:38,194 --> 00:58:41,741 things get heavier as 'heavy metal' weighs in. 943 00:58:50,138 --> 00:58:52,726 To find out more about 'The Seven Ages of Rock' 944 00:58:52,761 --> 00:58:55,622 and see some extra stories featuring artists in the series, 945 00:58:55,657 --> 00:58:59,685 go to "bbc.co.uk/sevenages". 946 00:59:01,163 --> 00:59:04,749 Transcription and synchronization by Fry. 77314

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