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Hello, I'm calling from the crib. I'd
like to determine...
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Constance. Why couldn't we have done
this during the day?
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Because I work for a living. I hate this
house at night.
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Oh, yeah, if you would give me the key
and I could have done this by myself.
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Yeah, well, if I'd let you come along,
you would have taken everything but the
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walls. Sure, I would have stolen a six
-foot arm wall.
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Not you, your lawyer.
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What is that stuff?
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Come on in.
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Oh, no.
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What's that?
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I wouldn't hear, but it's a ghost.
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Lay back and have a beer.
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Who has a cigarette?
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I'm not kidding you.
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Kids have been sneaking in here.
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I'm going to have to put a lock on this.
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You haven't had the phone turned off
yet?
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I'll get to it. Sure.
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They're going to pick this up on Monday.
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What?
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Wait a minute. We agreed.
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I need this for my apartment.
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Howard, I have a client who wants this
for his restaurant.
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Well, fine.
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You take what you want, and I'll take
what I want. Haven't you already done
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that, lover boy?
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But you want to talk about it? Well,
Howard, I want to talk about it. Talk to
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yourself. Howard.
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Oh, I love you. Baby, you are just how
stupid you think I am. Do you think that
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I wouldn't find out about it? Look, you
don't like it. Well, that's tough, baby.
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Shut up, because I've had it.
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I don't feel it.
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Really? Well, I don't, sir.
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Yeah, well, just leave me alone.
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I'm telling you, just leave me alone.
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Howard, did you knock the lights? Why
would I turn off the lights?
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I don't want to scare you. I don't want
anything to do with you. I just want to
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get rid of you. Howard, you're not going
to get rid of me that easily, knowing
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what I know now.
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Yeah, we've always been on the same
wavelength.
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I wanted you to have a photographer at
the harbor tomorrow morning at 7.
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Cover the arrival of the world's largest
floating dry dock.
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Gee, how did you forget something
fascinating like that?
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Okay, I've got it. Okay, thanks.
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Luke, wait a minute.
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Don't hang up. I called you, remember?
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Oh, yeah.
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I've decided to go to my sister's
wedding in Phoenix, so I'll need someone
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cover for me Friday night.
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I'm writing a note to myself now.
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Also, there's been a homicide in South
Pasadena.
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Everyone here was busy, so I sent Billy.
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She's the only one I can find home at
this hour.
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Ted's gonna love that. Do you ever think
of becoming a marriage counselor?
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It's Billy's kind of story.
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What do you mean?
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Well, it's the Shepard house.
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Shepard house? Yeah. A bunch of
parapsychologists have been studying it.
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Why? It's supposed to be haunted.
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and shut.
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Well, let's just say he's a suspect,
okay?
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Witnesses?
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Nobody.
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Except the ghost.
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Huh?
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You know, there's supposed to be spirits
in there. You're kidding.
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You see anything spooky?
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Nothing I'd admit to you. Oh, come on.
Tell me. I won't print it. I'm just
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curious.
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Famous last words. I swear, I won't
print it.
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Look, it wouldn't be good for my hard
-boiled image. If you saw something, you
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saw something.
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It doesn't mean you believe in ghosts.
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Okay, but it wasn't much.
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Standing in the kitchen there, and this
bar stool starts turning all by itself,
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and nobody was standing near it.
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Royal Cops just love to put on
impressionable young girl reporters.
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You? I wouldn't put you on.
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Kids over there.
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What do you think that is?
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Evident.
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Oh, hi,
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Billy. Glad you busted your buns to get
in time for lunch.
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I didn't get home till three in the
morning on that story.
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Oh, that's right. I'm inside in South
Pasadena.
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I pulled some clips on that house. It's
supposed to be haunted, you know. I
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know. There was a little girl murdered
there ten years ago.
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I remember that. Did you ever find the
guy?
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No, I never did.
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That's funny. Sergeant Rose didn't
mention that to me last night.
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Unsolved murders are not a source of
pride in a police department.
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The house has been sold several times
since then. People can't seem to live in
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it. They hear footsteps, see vases
floating, hear screams and disembodied
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voices. That's the least, Lester.
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This is creepy.
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The little girl who was murdered there
was found on the staircase.
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That's exactly where the woman last
night was still.
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Can I have this? Sure.
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I wanted to ask you, do you drive a red
car?
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No, and I'm not in your face, Charlie.
If somebody else, my car is blue.
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Marion had one of her dreams.
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It's about the fight. Let's hear it. I
went with her dream the last time I won
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bundle. Nothing that big.
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She dreamt that Rossi was driving a red
car.
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Well, if you weren't in one today, I'm
alive.
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Well, a guy did give me a lift from the
garage in a red van. Does that count?
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That count, of course it counts.
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I'm telling you, Marion is uncanny. So
what does it mean? What happened in the
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dream? Do I come out all right?
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I'm not going to tell you what happened.
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Keep your hands off my wife.
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Just came in on city news service. Going
to make your story a whole lot more
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interesting. Police book Howard Brass.
Why is that interesting? He was alone in
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the house with him. He was killed. It's
pretty open and shut.
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Maybe not.
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Felix Cunningham has signed on as his
attorney.
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Is that like a dinosaur bone?
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I think it's like a fragment of a whale
vertebrae. Well, then, what's it doing
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up here in the mountain?
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Well, we are. Used to be the bottom of
an agency, don't you know that? Are you
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an archaeologist or what?
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No, I just volunteer on the weekend.
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May I ask you a question, too?
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Sure.
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Why did the defense lawyer with an
exceptional track record take on a
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case like Howard Craft?
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That question doesn't have a lot to do
with paleontology.
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Because it isn't hopeless.
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Mr. Cunningham, I'm Billy Newman from
the charity.
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You don't mind walking for a story, do
you? No. I read this as one of your
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interests. Are you on the newspaper's
time or your own?
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I guess my own.
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Very enterprising.
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You drop things a lot?
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No. Why?
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Yeah.
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That's it.
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Very careful.
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I took the case because, number one, In
interviewing Mr. Kraft, I was convinced
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he didn't kill his wife.
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And secondly, the history of that house
persuades me there are other forces
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operating inside it that could have been
responsible for her death.
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Other forces?
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What are you talking about?
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Some people call them poltergeists. I
don't care what the term is.
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But experts in the field have been
studying the shepherd house for a long
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So I've read.
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That house had six... owners in the last
ten years.
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And since that child was killed there,
other people have had strange
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experiences. They've fallen down, have
been thrown from those stairs, where the
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little girl was murdered.
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I spoke with the young man hurt at the
same spot. He was chewing.
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He said he was pushed by a pair of
strong hands when there was nobody else
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him. Who is the young man?
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You'll see him at the trial.
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You know, the victim, Constance Craft,
was convinced the house was haunted and
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believed it had destroyed her marriage.
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This notion was reinforced by her
sister, Josephine, who was kind of a...
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psychic.
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Well, with these arguments and some
scientific evidence I plan to provide,
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I think I can make it difficult for the
state to prove Howard Cramp is guilty
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beyond a reasonable doubt.
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A poltergeist killed her. That's how
you're going to plead in court. A
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poltergeist could have killed her.
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That's how we're going to plead in
court.
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Lou Grant will continue in a moment here
on A &E.
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A &E returns to Lou Grant.
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What are those UFOs?
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I don't know what they are. I wish I
did.
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I thought you'd be getting into the
extraterrestrial after your last story.
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It was interesting, wasn't it?
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You had fun writing it?
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Yeah, I did.
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Good job.
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What do you mean?
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Now, don't get defensive. That approach
is probably okay for a story like this,
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except for the fact that a man is on
trial for his life.
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Calling it the poltergeist defense tends
to make light of it. Well, I'm sorry
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you feel that, Rossi, because if ever
there was a time for healthy skepticism,
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it's when a lawyer claims that ghosts
did the victim in.
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Like the kid who claimed watching TV
inspired him to murder four people.
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Or the guy who said that eating too many
cupcakes gave him a homicidal sugar
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high. Here are your notes.
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All I know is a man's life is on the
line, and I myself would think twice
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writing it up like a Halloween present.
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Of course you would.
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A friend of mine used to hunt spooks.
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In an old farmhouse once, they thought
they heard breathing. There was always
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this cold spot in the dining room.
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They found the cold spot all right. The
attic was drawing in air from the
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outside and creating a draft, and the
breathing was a wild cat up in the
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Yeah, I think all these things have
simple explanations.
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It just takes common sense. I mean,
spoon bending is a fraud.
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And oddly enough, Ouija boards always
work better when everybody already knows
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the answer.
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That's what this is.
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What is?
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This. This.
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Where's Lou?
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I guess he just, uh, vanished.
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He went to lunch.
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Lou? Lou, don't leave me.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm really sorry. That was clumsy.
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Sam.
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Oh, I'm glad I caught you. Charlie asked
me to bring a copy on Burroughs Street
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at lunch. So naturally I forgot it. I
figured out what the cops found outside
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the house the night of the murder. It's
a marker to a Ouija board.
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And those kids I saw running away may
have been witnesses.
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What makes you think so?
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Well, you don't play with a Ouija board
outside in the dark on a cold night.
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I bet those kids were inside the house.
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Could be. Who do you think they are?
Neighborhood kids? I don't know. Can I
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to find them? How are you going to do
that?
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Maybe with a Ouija board.
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Hi, Danny.
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Yeah. Are you Walter?
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Mm -hmm.
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Hi. I'm Billy Newton. Can I ask you a
couple of questions?
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Billy Porter?
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Yes. How did you find me?
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I asked around the neighborhood.
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Not many guys your age have a cast on
their own.
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Oh, right.
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I saw you hanging around the Shepherd
House the night of the murder.
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Both of you.
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Not us.
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Well, it was somebody who looked a lot
like you.
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The police found some evidence there,
you know?
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Part of a Ouija board.
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That little thing that moves around.
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It's called a planchette.
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Oh, really?
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What's that for?
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I just want to write that down.
Planchette.
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Well, that's what it's called, just in
case you ever want to know.
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The Ouija board wasn't ours.
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But you were playing with it?
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Inside the house?
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Okay, look, we were there, but we
didn't... Stop it, Bess. What are you
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All they have to do is trace our
fingerprints, you idiot.
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We didn't see anything.
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I'm not kidding.
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I mean straight with you.
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Okay. We heard someone coming and split
before anything happened.
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Whose Ouija board is it?
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Usually takes more than two people to
play.
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Who's the other guy?
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There wasn't another guy.
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Okay.
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How'd you do that?
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I fell.
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Where?
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Like some steps.
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Sounds like you don't want to talk about
it. I can understand. Did Mr.
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Cunningham say you shouldn't before the
trial?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Walter, Danny, thanks.
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Give it a big help.
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As we lay my beloved sister Constance to
rest, let us not dwell on death, but on
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the fragile nature of life that God has
given us.
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We mustn't think that Constance has left
us. Rather, she has just moved on to
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another plane of existence, perhaps more
peaceful than the one she left.
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I believe this world is a laboratory.
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where we work out the mistakes of the
past, to live without ego in the present
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moment, to be aware of the beautiful
eternity before us and after us.
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And we go back and forth from different
planes of existence
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until we have fulfilled our karma, and
we are ready to move on to higher
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until we have reached the inner circle,
and we are one with God.
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Constance came to share these views with
me.
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And although she has been taken from us
by violent means, the lessons that she
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learned in this life have been her
wisdom.
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She is safe now.
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She has come home.
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I know she is with us.
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And in her happiness, she is able to
forgive those who treated her
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ill.
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Mr. Cunningham.
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You certainly turn up in the strangest
places.
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I know this isn't a good time, but do
you think I could speak to Mr. Kraft?
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Howard, this is Billy Newman from the
Tribune. You feel like talking?
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What do you think, Clark?
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Nothing. Hi.
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May I ask you if you feel your interests
are well served by going with the
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poltergeist defense?
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You're calling it that. We didn't. I
don't care what you... call it frankly i
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have no other explanation i know i
didn't push my wife so you believe the
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is haunted well i didn't before but you
know constance did we used to argue
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about it in fact i think it contributed
to the failure of our marriage but now
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there isn't any doubt that there are
forces in that house which we cannot
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logically understand would you care to
expand on that look i was five feet from
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her when she fell None of my research
has turned up evidence of poltergeist
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hurting people. They're supposed to be
rather benign, almost playful.
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She went over that banister with a
tremendous force, and I didn't touch
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Now, that doesn't sound very playful to
me, does it to you?
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I'm innocent.
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It really is.
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Then why not just plead innocent?
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Can't you make a case for it?
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He had a deteriorating relationship with
his wife.
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People saw them fighting in public. It's
not that simple. Couldn't it have been
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an accident?
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The way she fell and the trajectory of
the body indicate the victim was pushed.
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It's not going to be an easy argument.
You can't put a ghost on the stand.
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I can hope to convince a jury that there
was something unnatural in that house
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at that time.
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Sounds to me like you're trying to shift
the issue from whether he's innocent or
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not to a debate on the existence of
ghosts.
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I'm glad you're not on the jury.
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Lou Grant will continue in a moment here
on A &E.
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Thank you for coming.
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Were you a friend of my sister's?
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Not really.
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Billy Newman.
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I'm sorry.
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You're a writer.
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How did you know?
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Oh, your hand. I can tell these things.
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I was told you were psychic. Yes.
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May I ask you how you feel about this
poltergeist defense that your brother
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-law and Mr. Cunningham are relying on?
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Well, I don't know, but I certainly
don't approve of the seance.
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Seance? To prove the house is haunted,
they've asked a team of scientific
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experts to hold a seance and testify to
their findings. Who are the experts?
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Dr. Lucille Haas.
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Lucille Haas?
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Even I've heard of her. The house is
full of unrest.
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Anyone can feel it.
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They don't know what they're unleashing.
But wouldn't the results be crucial to
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Howard's defense?
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Howard brought my sister to that house.
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You can understand why I'm not terribly
concerned with his defense.
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Excuse me.
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I don't have my credit card number.
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Because I don't have my credit card.
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I lost it.
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Well, I lost my wallet.
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Don't you people file accounts by name
anymore?
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Grant.
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Comma. Lou.
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I'll wait.
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Music to get high blood pressure by.
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If you check all of the pockets of all
your pants, I've looked everywhere.
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Could it have slipped out when you bent
over or something?
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Last time I did somersaults in the city
room.
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You left it in the store.
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It was gone when I got to McKenna.
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I hope the old lady pickpocket from
Bunker Hill didn't get it. You remember
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82 years old. And what a pro.
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Oh, boy.
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That's all I need at this moment all
over town. Support stockings and
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statuettes of shepherds are being
charged to my car.
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I have a great idea. The art for Billy's
story?
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A time exposure taken at night.
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See, you set up the camera like in front
of this haunted house, open the lens,
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expose the film for a couple of minutes.
The effect is kind of ghostly and
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weird. As long as it's legit, you can't
alter it in the darkroom.
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No way. I'll only print what's in the
negative.
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I want the reader to know that. Your
credit line should say, time exposure
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photography by.
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Gotcha.
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90 % of these cases, the person is
haunted, not the house.
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So those cases you treat clinically.
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And the rest?
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10 % of the time, we really do find
something interesting.
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Dr. Haas, you're a conventionally
trained psychologist with, what, 25
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experience? Nearly 30.
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And you didn't have any trouble
accepting these way -out theories of...
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apparition, ESP, paranormal experiences.
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Much of what was considered way out is
commonplace in medical practice today.
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Hypnosis, near -death experience.
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I'm afraid I'm skeptical.
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Good. Stay skeptical. It's a healthy
place to be.
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I want proof myself.
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The problem is you can't get a ghost to
appear in a laboratory, so you can't
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measure it. But that doesn't mean these
things don't exist.
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Have you ever seen an apparition?
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I've been with people who are sensitive
who've said, don't you see that over
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there? And no, I don't see it.
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I simply don't have that gift of vision.
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Of course, non -psychics see apparitions
too.
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Maybe I'm just not lucky.
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You have an excellent reputation. Why
are you allowing yourself to be used by
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the defense in a murder case?
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Oh, I don't feel I'm being used.
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Mr. Cunningham says he won't interfere
with the seance.
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It's just an opportunity for research.
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May I come?
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If you follow my instructions carefully.
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I will.
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First of all, don't have high
expectations.
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Most psychic research is boring and
nothing happens.
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Okay. We hold a seance because it's
traditional.
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We don't know why it works.
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We also observe the traditions that go
along with it. The joining of hands, the
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not breaking the circle. You mustn't
break the circle under any
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What would happen?
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First of all, it's dark.
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And in the dark, people like human
contact.
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The power of suggestion is strong.
You'll be glad to have someone to hold
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Beyond that, there well may be powers
we're stirring up that we don't
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understand.
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In that case, all of us together are
strong. One isolated is vulnerable.
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Lou Grant will continue in a moment here
on A &E.
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Are we doing the right thing?
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With that story about the poltergeist
defense, I'm very uncomfortable with
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making it an amusing piece.
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The readers love it. They're eating it
up.
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Well, it's just not a subject that
amuses me, dealing with the afterlife.
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You know, you may laugh at me, but when
I had my stroke,
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apparently at one point things got
rather dicey, and they tell me I stopped
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breathing.
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Now, I remember a peculiar feeling of
being lifted out of my body and
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floating above the scene, looking down
on myself.
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I remember passing through a long tunnel
with light at the end of it.
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And there were friends that I had known
waiting for me.
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Well, I never did reach them because I
woke up and found myself in the
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That's called an out -of -body
experience.
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Is it really?
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It's quite well documented.
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They think they have an explanation for
it.
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And what would that be?
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Well, when a person is close to death,
there's a neurochemical reaction in the
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brain. Sort of like if the switchboard
went crazy. All the neurons fire at
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The things you've described are quite
common.
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Similar to the hallucinations under
drugs.
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And I am just as uncomfortable with
mysticism as you are.
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But I tell you, that experience was very
profound and quite real.
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But I have come to accept the fact that
there are many more mysteries on this
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earth than I could have accepted a few
years ago.
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Now, concentrate all of your attention
on that point where my fingers are
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contact with the spoon. All of your
energies at that point.
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We'll see if we can make something
happen. I feel the spoon getting warmer.
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Something's starting to happen.
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Concentrate. Concentrate all of your
attention there. Don't laugh.
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Concentrate. Something's happening.
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How did you do that?
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Can you keep a secret?
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Yes. So can I.
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But I assure you there's nothing psychic
about it. Any master magician can bend
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a spoon these days.
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So all those spoon bendings and key
bendings are fake?
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Those that I've observed.
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What's this?
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Don't touch it.
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We've pinned sewing thread top to bottom
on all the doorways.
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That way, if anyone tries to sneak in or
out when it's dark, they'll break the
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thread. Very clever.
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What else?
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Well, Dr. Hopp and I have measured the
entire house inside and out and compared
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those measurements with the architect's
plans.
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We're looking for secret rooms, wide
crawl spaces, evidence of the house
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settling which could account for
creaking noises or doors closing by
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that sort of thing. Did you find
anything unusual?
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Nothing at all. I think we can be
certain that when we start tonight,
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all alone in this room. Excuse me. Let's
go through some ritual here.
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Would everyone witness that these tapes
and this film has never been opened?
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Witnessed.
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Witnessed.
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Billy?
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How do you find the house? Well, there's
definite coldness on this staircase.
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And just above the baluster where she
fell, I'm getting some activity.
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This is Rose, our medium.
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Hello.
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May I ask you how much the defense
attorney is paying for your services
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I never take money.
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I believe we should give freely of that
which is given to us.
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Shall we settle down?
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Over here, Billy.
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Lucille, do we know if there's been a
poltergeist agent anywhere in the house?
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What's that?
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There's a correlation between
poltergeist activity and the presence of
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teenagers, especially adolescent girls.
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Unconsciously, they project sexual
energy into the environment, causing
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to happen, objects to fly, doors to
open.
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00:30:14,940 --> 00:30:18,220
Alec, there was a young girl here when
that boy fell and broke his wrist a few
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months ago. A girl? One of his friends?
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Presumably.
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This is not fairy dust.
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This is to mark footprints.
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The shoe size of the entity is very
important.
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Well.
485
00:30:37,940 --> 00:30:38,940
Are we ready?
486
00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:40,780
Not quite.
487
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,840
Is there room in your circle?
488
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,820
I wanted to show this to you before you
went home.
489
00:30:53,060 --> 00:30:54,440
Good. Nice effect.
490
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,520
House really looks weird. Look closer at
that downstairs window.
491
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:00,559
What's that?
492
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,020
Looks like someone's standing there.
493
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,460
Yeah, I know. But nobody was.
494
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,840
There must be dust or something on the
negative.
495
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Not that I can tell.
496
00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:17,420
You know, there's a theory these
entities don't go through the lens, but
497
00:31:17,420 --> 00:31:19,400
impress themselves directly on the film.
498
00:31:20,590 --> 00:31:22,370
Are you asking me to buy that?
499
00:31:22,590 --> 00:31:24,470
Oh, no, I don't believe any of that
stuff.
500
00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:26,090
So what are some other explanations?
501
00:31:26,850 --> 00:31:31,070
Oh, reciprocity failure, old developing
chemicals, flaw in the paper stock.
502
00:31:31,450 --> 00:31:32,850
Did you check all those things? Yeah.
503
00:31:33,630 --> 00:31:35,010
I don't think it's any of them.
504
00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:37,370
So what's your explanation?
505
00:31:38,370 --> 00:31:40,870
Are you telling me this is a picture of
something supernatural?
506
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:45,550
Well, I don't know. I think it just kind
of happened.
507
00:31:47,790 --> 00:31:48,990
Keep your eyes open.
508
00:31:49,550 --> 00:31:52,690
Don't be afraid to speak up if you see
something so a photographer will know
509
00:31:52,690 --> 00:31:53,690
where to shoot.
510
00:31:53,710 --> 00:31:58,530
Now familiarize yourself with every
reflection and glimmer of light so
511
00:31:58,530 --> 00:31:59,650
know if you see something unusual.
512
00:32:06,670 --> 00:32:11,970
If there's anyone or anything in the
house, we ask that you make yourself
513
00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:12,970
present to us.
514
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:14,470
We want to communicate.
515
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:16,150
We wish you no harm.
516
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,979
What's that?
517
00:32:22,980 --> 00:32:24,580
Where? Over there, against the wall.
518
00:32:25,140 --> 00:32:28,100
Is that... Oh, no.
519
00:32:29,420 --> 00:32:30,420
I'm sorry.
520
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,320
It's coming from the flash gun, the back
of it. It's the ready light.
521
00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:38,320
I knew it was too good to be true.
522
00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:43,300
Billy, are you all right? Yeah. You
squeezed my hand so awfully tight.
523
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,540
I just didn't expect it, that's all.
524
00:32:45,820 --> 00:32:47,200
Tell us if you want to stop.
525
00:32:47,860 --> 00:32:49,460
We've all been through this before.
526
00:32:49,860 --> 00:32:51,580
Thanks. I'm fine.
527
00:32:57,060 --> 00:32:58,060
Join us.
528
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,500
Contact us.
529
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:02,700
Make a physical noise.
530
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,040
Push something. Knock on something.
531
00:33:06,780 --> 00:33:08,940
Make a noise and let us know you're
here.
532
00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:11,740
We come with only good intentions.
533
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,720
Everyone, clear your mind.
534
00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:18,800
Feel the energy flowing through our
hands.
535
00:33:19,510 --> 00:33:22,330
Round and round, blue energy, like blue
light.
536
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:26,330
Does anyone feel a draft?
537
00:33:28,930 --> 00:33:29,930
Yes.
538
00:33:31,090 --> 00:33:33,410
It's getting colder down around our
hands.
539
00:33:33,710 --> 00:33:36,450
I can feel it, too. It's definitely
getting colder.
540
00:33:36,730 --> 00:33:41,370
If you are the spirit of the child who
was killed in this house, please come to
541
00:33:41,370 --> 00:33:42,370
us now.
542
00:33:43,690 --> 00:33:44,690
What was that?
543
00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:46,430
Where? What direction?
544
00:33:46,970 --> 00:33:47,970
Toward the stairs.
545
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,120
What did you hear? A creak or a
knocking.
546
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,920
Come to us now. Speak through me.
547
00:34:10,340 --> 00:34:11,420
Tell us your name.
548
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:14,340
Give us a sign.
549
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:21,300
Keep shooting!
550
00:34:21,420 --> 00:34:22,420
Don't stop!
551
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,679
Lou Grant will continue in a moment here
on A &E.
552
00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:33,320
Look at that. Look at that.
553
00:34:33,540 --> 00:34:37,360
I love it. A book on the floor. Stop the
presses. Yeah, but a second before it
554
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,238
was on the shelf.
555
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,239
Stop the presses again.
556
00:34:39,460 --> 00:34:43,040
I mean, it was flying through the air.
The photographer just couldn't catch it
557
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,779
in time.
558
00:34:43,780 --> 00:34:44,780
Uh -huh.
559
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,560
Listen.
560
00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:51,820
First there was the cool breeze. We all
felt it, even though the windows were
561
00:34:51,820 --> 00:34:56,159
closed and it was hot and stuffy in
there. And then right after we felt it,
562
00:34:56,159 --> 00:35:00,380
book comes flying out of the bookshelf,
I swear to God, all by itself.
563
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,820
Come on, nobody was standing near it?
No, and there was not a mark on the
564
00:35:04,820 --> 00:35:06,740
powder, none of the doorway threads were
broken.
565
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,360
How did that book move?
566
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,080
Today's army wants you. Me?
567
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,560
I'm not kidding.
568
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,840
Just had a call from the U .S. Army.
They would like you to brief them on
569
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,740
everything you know about the Shepard
House and the Kraft murder case. Oh, no.
570
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:22,300
Do you agree to that?
571
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,440
Gave me a lot of stuff.
572
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,760
Boy, is it impressive.
573
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,840
For instance, the Army, the Navy, the
CIA, the National Security Agency,
574
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,680
all been involved in psychic research.
575
00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:33,040
That's cute. Each one trying to find out
what the other's doing.
576
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,860
You mean the government is really
putting money into this? Apparently they
577
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:39,980
They don't say how much. The Russians
are doing it, too, and they're supposed
578
00:35:39,980 --> 00:35:40,980
be ahead of us.
579
00:35:40,990 --> 00:35:43,950
They've spent millions on psychic
research and apparently they make
580
00:35:43,950 --> 00:35:45,090
breakthroughs in Kirlian photography.
581
00:35:45,610 --> 00:35:47,250
You mean taking pictures of auras?
582
00:35:47,590 --> 00:35:51,590
Right. That's the energy given off by
living things. Yeah, but the army now
583
00:35:51,590 --> 00:35:54,910
claims that auras are nothing more than
body moisture interacting with the
584
00:35:54,910 --> 00:35:55,910
Earth's magnetic field.
585
00:35:56,090 --> 00:36:00,330
They've gotten pictures of auras around
wet sponges and bowls of spaghetti.
586
00:36:00,590 --> 00:36:02,450
Hey, that research is important.
587
00:36:03,070 --> 00:36:05,210
I've heard the Russians have a spaghetti
bomb.
588
00:36:07,350 --> 00:36:10,210
I can't believe you'd give those guys
access to what Billy learned.
589
00:36:10,490 --> 00:36:11,490
Are you crazy?
590
00:36:11,850 --> 00:36:13,350
I'd never do that.
591
00:36:13,690 --> 00:36:16,150
What did you tell him? I told him that
we wouldn't cooperate.
592
00:36:16,990 --> 00:36:20,330
And I turned him over to a great source,
Marion.
593
00:36:20,990 --> 00:36:22,610
She'll keep him busy for a while.
594
00:36:25,610 --> 00:36:28,990
You know, Lou, I did find out something
interesting last night.
595
00:36:29,410 --> 00:36:33,950
There was a girl in the house the night
that boy Danny broke his arm. I thought
596
00:36:33,950 --> 00:36:36,730
they were protecting somebody, but it
never occurred to me it was a girl.
597
00:36:37,050 --> 00:36:39,650
You think she was there that night and
witnessed the murder? She may have seen
598
00:36:39,650 --> 00:36:40,650
something they didn't.
599
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:41,970
Why don't you follow that up?
600
00:36:42,190 --> 00:36:45,430
But first you better tell the police
what you know about it. Okay, I'll call
601
00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:46,430
Sergeant Roach.
602
00:36:46,490 --> 00:36:49,030
Oh, by the way, I asked the medium about
your wallet.
603
00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:50,510
She said look in the track.
604
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:52,270
Thanks.
605
00:37:12,140 --> 00:37:13,140
Hey, Lou.
606
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,100
You haven't hired anybody new, have you?
607
00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:18,140
Not controlling you? Of course not.
608
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,138
Good morning.
609
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:21,720
Oh, hi, Donovan. No, no, no, no. That's
not why I'm asking.
610
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,500
Marion had another dream last night.
She's quite disturbed by it.
611
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,760
She said there was a new man in the
sitting room who was in terrible danger.
612
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,120
saw blood all over the place. I know it
sounds silly, but she didn't sleep all
613
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,100
night. No new men around here. No new
women.
614
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,400
So right at.
615
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,680
Billy Newman?
616
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,840
This is Joseph.
617
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,780
Bowers. I'm calling from the Shepherd
House. I had to let you know there's
618
00:37:43,780 --> 00:37:45,260
something very wrong here.
619
00:37:45,580 --> 00:37:46,580
What is it?
620
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:55,100
Ever since last night, I've had the very
strong feeling that a child
621
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:56,860
was still trapped in this house.
622
00:37:57,780 --> 00:38:01,640
What we saw was an entity letting us
know it was here.
623
00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:04,680
Now I know it's in great pain.
624
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,980
It's talking to me.
625
00:38:07,420 --> 00:38:08,420
Talking?
626
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,040
through the car.
627
00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:13,560
It needs to be freed.
628
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,620
The poor thing doesn't even know it's
dead.
629
00:38:19,020 --> 00:38:24,380
I think it's the ghost of the little
girl who was murdered and it hasn't
630
00:38:24,380 --> 00:38:25,620
over to the other side.
631
00:38:26,740 --> 00:38:27,820
It's still trapped.
632
00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:32,740
Listen, Josephine, what we saw last
night may have been the house settling
633
00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:34,140
trick of some kind. No.
634
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,220
I'm here and I feel it.
635
00:38:39,020 --> 00:38:40,240
I'm going to set it free.
636
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,720
Will you come here now?
637
00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:46,260
I think we should have other witnesses.
638
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:47,680
We shouldn't be there alone.
639
00:38:48,140 --> 00:38:49,140
We won't be alone.
640
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,600
All right.
641
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,300
Here's the schedule for the new shuttle
bus to the garage.
642
00:39:03,279 --> 00:39:08,180
Mrs. Pinchon went for it. Listen, she's
hiring new security guards as well. Hey,
643
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,000
hey, hey, you must have some magic
influence over her.
644
00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:12,780
I think it's called guilt.
645
00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:18,020
You know who the new man in the city
room might be? The one that Marion saw
646
00:39:18,020 --> 00:39:19,520
her dream? Who's in terrible danger?
647
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,820
Who? Billy.
648
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,800
Billy?
649
00:39:23,180 --> 00:39:24,180
How's that?
650
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,100
Newman. Billy New Man.
651
00:39:56,490 --> 00:39:57,730
I'm sorry. Are you all right?
652
00:39:58,970 --> 00:40:02,690
Yes, I'm all right. I was just trying to
see how Constance could have fallen
653
00:40:02,690 --> 00:40:03,690
where she did.
654
00:40:03,890 --> 00:40:04,689
It's true.
655
00:40:04,690 --> 00:40:06,970
An object would have to be thrown to go
that far.
656
00:40:08,210 --> 00:40:09,250
I'm glad to see you.
657
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:10,868
Don't be afraid.
658
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:11,870
Oh, I'm not afraid.
659
00:40:12,770 --> 00:40:14,150
Spirits aren't evil, just people.
660
00:40:16,090 --> 00:40:17,810
I just felt too sick to tell anybody.
661
00:40:18,570 --> 00:40:21,090
And the more I waited, the more I knew
you'd all be mad.
662
00:40:21,910 --> 00:40:23,170
I didn't know anything about this.
663
00:40:23,710 --> 00:40:25,690
She'd been in bed all week with a
stomachache.
664
00:40:26,250 --> 00:40:27,250
It's okay, Emily.
665
00:40:27,970 --> 00:40:29,090
Nobody's mad at you.
666
00:40:29,730 --> 00:40:31,150
Just tell me what you saw.
667
00:40:32,010 --> 00:40:34,630
I was hiding, but I could hear what they
were saying.
668
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:38,570
They hated each other. They were
fighting.
669
00:40:38,990 --> 00:40:39,990
About what?
670
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:42,050
They were on top of the stairs.
671
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:45,690
Josephine, I'm more worried about you
than I am about the ghost.
672
00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:47,010
Don't worry about me.
673
00:40:48,430 --> 00:40:50,930
I think you're very upset about your
sister's death.
674
00:40:51,290 --> 00:40:54,790
And maybe your imagination is a little
vivid after last night.
675
00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:01,480
I'm here to cover the story, but I do
wish you'd call Dr. Haas and explain
676
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,480
you're feeling.
677
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,240
The ghost talking to you and stuff.
678
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:07,640
It doesn't matter whether you believe
me.
679
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,580
It only matters that you're here.
680
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,800
They were saying stuff about this woman.
681
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:16,280
What kind of stuff?
682
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,820
That she and the man, you know.
683
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,740
I think I do.
684
00:41:25,930 --> 00:41:29,790
but you have to tell me because this is
very important.
685
00:41:30,770 --> 00:41:33,190
That he and this other woman have been
making love.
686
00:41:33,810 --> 00:41:36,270
What was this other woman's name? Did
they say?
687
00:41:36,610 --> 00:41:37,890
Oh, they said it a lot.
688
00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:39,750
Josephine.
689
00:41:40,570 --> 00:41:41,670
Josephine? Right.
690
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:46,170
She was saying, how could he do this
with my own sister?
691
00:41:46,830 --> 00:41:49,130
Right in front of my nose with my
sister.
692
00:41:49,870 --> 00:41:52,350
This is the spot that it always happens.
693
00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:54,390
So are you getting any feelings?
694
00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:57,900
Look how far she fell.
695
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,060
Yes, you see?
696
00:42:02,540 --> 00:42:04,500
Something had to push her.
697
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,800
Oh, no.
698
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,620
It's back, and it's coming from the
basement.
699
00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:10,060
You've got to be kidding.
700
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,640
Come on.
701
00:42:11,780 --> 00:42:13,880
No, I'll wait right here, thanks.
702
00:42:25,850 --> 00:42:31,930
is here i'm sure i'm okay as long as
there aren't rats if we see one rat
703
00:42:31,930 --> 00:42:33,170
we're leaving
704
00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:39,230
over here
705
00:43:04,970 --> 00:43:05,970
These are good things.
706
00:43:11,530 --> 00:43:12,368
That's it?
707
00:43:12,370 --> 00:43:13,370
There it is.
708
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:24,070
If you've ever seen a trial turn around
on a dime, you should have heard the
709
00:43:24,070 --> 00:43:25,069
testimony today.
710
00:43:25,070 --> 00:43:29,410
A little girl told the jury all about
how she heard Howard and Constance
711
00:43:29,410 --> 00:43:32,210
fighting. It turns out that Howard was
having an affair.
712
00:43:33,210 --> 00:43:35,390
With Josephine, his sister -in -law.
713
00:43:36,070 --> 00:43:40,130
Josephine was sitting in the courtroom.
She turned as red as a beet. And I
714
00:43:40,130 --> 00:43:42,950
thought Cunningham, the lawyer, was
going to have a stroke.
715
00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:46,390
The poor man was trying to keep his
cool, but you could tell it was the
716
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:47,390
he'd heard of it.
717
00:43:47,890 --> 00:43:48,890
Isn't that the way?
718
00:43:49,530 --> 00:43:54,370
The poltergeist defense will always hold
when lust nears its ugly head. Let's
719
00:43:54,370 --> 00:43:55,370
not go knocking luck.
720
00:43:55,820 --> 00:43:58,540
So, Howard will change his plea to
Gillian. This will wrap up in a few
721
00:43:58,660 --> 00:43:59,680
You've got 600 words.
722
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:00,900
I need more.
723
00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:05,540
What? The police also proved today that
the doll we found in the house belonged
724
00:44:05,540 --> 00:44:06,660
to the murdered child.
725
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,300
And since we took it out of the house,
there's been no strange activity.
726
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,600
The spirit was laid to rest.
727
00:44:16,540 --> 00:44:18,820
By the way, Lucille Haas called me.
728
00:44:19,260 --> 00:44:21,920
I know. She invited me to another
seance.
729
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:23,640
I said no thanks.
730
00:44:24,670 --> 00:44:25,670
Would you like to be scared?
731
00:44:26,970 --> 00:44:28,070
Not scared like that.
732
00:44:29,050 --> 00:44:33,610
I know in the history of the world, one
book moving out of a bookshelf
733
00:44:33,610 --> 00:44:39,370
apparently all by itself is no big deal,
but it can't be explained, and I
734
00:44:39,370 --> 00:44:41,550
don't want to think about it.
735
00:44:48,270 --> 00:44:49,270
City desk.
736
00:44:50,070 --> 00:44:51,110
Yeah, I'll accept.
737
00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:53,350
Hello, Lieutenant.
738
00:44:54,010 --> 00:44:55,010
Yeah.
739
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:58,230
Yeah, that sounds like mine.
740
00:44:58,490 --> 00:44:59,490
Great.
741
00:45:00,010 --> 00:45:01,970
Send it back anyway.
742
00:45:02,310 --> 00:45:03,750
Yeah, it has sentimental value.
743
00:45:04,730 --> 00:45:06,050
Thanks a lot for calling.
744
00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:08,450
Yeah, okay.
745
00:45:08,910 --> 00:45:10,110
I found my wallet.
746
00:45:10,370 --> 00:45:11,870
Where was it? San Francisco.
747
00:45:12,130 --> 00:45:15,870
Somehow it was stolen. They took the
money and most of the credit cards and
748
00:45:15,870 --> 00:45:16,870
threw the wallet away.
749
00:45:16,970 --> 00:45:18,530
They found it in the bus station.
750
00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:21,150
In the trash.
751
00:45:50,860 --> 00:45:53,500
His illustrations captured the spirit of
America.
752
00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:57,740
Let's meet one of the most beloved
American artists of this century, Norman
753
00:45:57,740 --> 00:45:59,760
Rockwell, tonight on Biography.
754
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,900
Now, the Homicide Squad gears up to find
a killer when a double shooting leads
755
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:05,779
to murder.
756
00:46:05,780 --> 00:46:08,980
Join us for Police Story, next on AMA.
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