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Hello, I'm calling from the trip. I'd
like to confirm a phone call. How much
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money was involved?
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Was it over a thousand dollars?
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Was it over ten thousand dollars?
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I saved you a piece of the Matheson
building.
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Sorry, Mr.
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Demolition. Why did you put yourself
through that, Margaret?
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I wouldn't have gone on a bet.
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I thought someone from the Historical
Society should be there to make Alex
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Matheson feel guilty.
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Did you?
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Not for a minute.
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He was so busy overseeing with a silver
hard hat on his head.
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He looked like he was wearing an ice
bucket.
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Well, we put up a good fight to save the
building.
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Alex Madison has sat with us on the
board of the Historical Society for
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Now, he's responsible for tearing down
one of our most important buildings.
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I've already spoken to some of the other
board members.
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Everyone's in agreement to throw the
rascal out.
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Listen, I'm just a hired hand here, but
I'd hate to lose a guy with his money.
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Let me offer you a compromise.
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What are you doing this afternoon?
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Hello, Alex.
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They told us to come right out.
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Wonderful, Margaret. Wonderful.
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Dad?
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Do you remember Margaret Finchot?
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Mr. Matheson, how in the world are you?
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And this gentleman is the archivist at
the Society.
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Dr. Michael Shepard. How do you do? Mrs.
Dupree, who's taking care of Dad for
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us. Hi.
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You know, Dad and I were just talking
how ironic this whole business is.
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You know, that building has always been
an embarrassment to the family.
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His father put up the first building 100
years ago. The 34 earthquake destroyed
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it. Dad built on top of it, and then he
caught hell from everyone because they
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couldn't stand the way it looked.
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Well, nobody's denying it was
monumentally ugly.
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And now the board wants to get rid of me
for tearing it down. That's right.
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Your only ally is this one here. I'd
hate for the society to lose you.
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When we were making our last -minute try
for a restraining order, I did some
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research. And in the cornerstone of that
building, there's a time capsule.
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Margaret and I would like to suggest
that you open it up and offer its
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to the city.
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A time capsule. You're kidding.
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It's nice having an historian around,
isn't it?
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I had no idea.
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Did you, Dad?
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A time capsule in the building?
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Alex, how about giving a nice little
gift to the city at its 200th year?
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Well, that cornerstone was probably
destroyed when they took the building
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The time capsule is in the cornerstone
of the original building, which is
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actually eight feet underground and
hasn't been disturbed.
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Margaret, you're talking about a lot of
money.
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Excavation, God knows what else.
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You single -handedly robbed this city of
a landmark.
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I'm not going to let you off the hook.
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I can see you're not.
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All right.
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We'll dig up the capsule, open it up,
see what's inside.
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Good.
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The society would be delighted to help
you plan the ceremony.
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The ceremony?
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Well, you are giving it to the people of
the city, aren't you?
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Why not have some of the people around?
We'd be glad to help.
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Good enough.
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Thank you, Alex.
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Well, that's the least we can do. I
should say it is.
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Mrs. Dupree, would you be good enough to
show it away?
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I'd be happy to. Goodbye, then.
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Mr. Madison?
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Bye -bye.
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Can you believe it?
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They didn't even know it was there.
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I had no choice, Dad.
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Don't worry, we'll pull it off.
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A time capsule?
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Tomorrow afternoon, I want you to give
us a little history.
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L .A. history, I love it. That's
whatever was there before the freeway
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built. I hear they've excavated the
first fiberglass surfboard.
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This city is 200 years old. I know, I
know.
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Talk to Dr. Shepard at the Historical
Society.
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Find out what's in the time capsule.
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Give me a little background.
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A little gee whiz, nothing ever stays
the same, or gee whiz, nothing ever
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changes. Gotcha. By the numbers.
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Let that be our secret.
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Who among those gathered at the building
site did not long to be a traveler in
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time to glimpse that date in the future
when our gifts would be revealed?
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They don't let me write like that, I'll
tell you. Well, a lot of that grand
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style is compensation for living in a
town with unpaved streets and flooding
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every winter.
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How big was L .A. in 1881?
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Maybe 15 ,000.
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The first of the Mathersons built just
before the boom.
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Are you from L .A.? Yep.
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Even my parents are native. They were
the ones that got me interested in
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history.
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Okay, the Spanish came first. Then
Mexico?
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No, first it was the Indians.
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Then Spain did some exploration and
Russia, though they probably never got
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far south.
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May I?
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Sure. One of the perks of this job.
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So in the 18th century, Spain started to
colonize California.
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She recruited 11 Mexican families, some
of whom I'm proud to say were descended
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from black African slaves, to set up a
pueblo here.
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Los Angeles was part of Mexico for some
time and then became part of the United
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States. And I found the list of what's
in the time capsule.
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Oh, great.
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All right. Go ahead.
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A proclamation from the city council.
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A 48 stanza poem from the Roses in
January Society.
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Samples of this season's walnut crop.
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and something called the Pastor Cross.
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Pastor, that's one of the early
families.
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You may have something interesting here.
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Lou Grant will continue in a moment here
on A &E.
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Once upon a time, the Madison family
didn't get along.
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I haven't heard that late since I read
Jack and Jill. I'm giving you
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I managed to make this story into
something kind of compelling, and I just
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you to tell me how much can end up in
the story.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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There was this feud between the two
halves of the Madison family.
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And when the first Madison guy died,
which was about 1870 or so, his two sons
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fought over everything. The house, the
branch, the business.
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Eventually it all got settled in court,
except for one item.
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Season tickets to the Rams.
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A golden cross, encrusted with precious
stones.
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It was named the pastor crop after this
early settler who came up from Mexico.
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This guy's daughter got smallpox.
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So he hammered out this cross for her,
which supposedly helped heal her.
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Can you see why this is going to be way
over 400 words?
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No, it's not.
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Just say this settler. Pastor. Right.
Pastor made this cross. It's loaded with
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significance. And gorgeous.
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It's supposed to be gorgeous.
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Reputed to be gorgeous.
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That's four words.
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Then just go on with the Madison feud.
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And the story is that the Mathesons
decided to patch things up, so they
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the cross in the cornerstone of their
new building, which is now rubble, and
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tomorrow we all get to see it.
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Now we're talking.
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Ancient feuds, family secrets, present
jewels.
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Don't get your hopes up, Lou. This is
all past history.
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Where are you going to park?
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Do you know where to park right now?
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Oh, Ann, look. Oh, God.
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I don't know. Are you going to get us
killed?
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Which Mathesons are feuding with which?
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Oh, nobody's feuding with anybody. That
was a hundred years ago. Right. I'm
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going to go. Right.
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the bright idea of a new time capsule
for the Madison Tower, and he wants me
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assemble it. Well, that's terrific.
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Oh, sure, Dr.
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Shepard. You weren't railroaded into
doing all the work.
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Now here, Mrs. Pinchot, Charlie's tied
up. You can take my seat. I have to be
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front anyway.
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Thank you.
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Ladies and gentlemen, please find
yourself a comfortable seat.
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Oh, jinx, Madison.
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Meet Lou Grant.
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My metropolitan editor.
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How do you do?
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Hello? Matheson.
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Shouldn't you be up there?
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No, because Alex Matheson and I recently
divorced.
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Sorry. And he got custody of the podium.
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Please be seated.
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Good afternoon, everyone.
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Okay, Jenks. Give us a five -hour play.
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My pleasure.
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My father couldn't be with us, but we
promised to give him a full report.
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I'd like now to have each member of the
family take a crack at this.
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Helen? First, my sister Helen.
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Don't you love old Helen with a purse?
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First son, Denley?
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Who has just sunk $30 ,000 into a movie
which he can kiss goodbye.
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My son, Alex Jr.
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Stand up straight, darling.
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He looks wonderful.
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Thank you.
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Nice job, son. Nice job.
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And little Alex, still the biggest
thief.
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Now the other members of the Matheson
family, whom we don't get to see often
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enough.
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This is my grandfather's brother's side
of the family. We'll start off with
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Bill. Bill?
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That old goat looks great.
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Must make Alice's day a green.
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His daughter, Mary Jane.
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I'm sorry. Mary Alice.
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Alice, you're such a trip.
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Her sons, Brad and Don.
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Do the two sides of the family get
together much? Oh, they never get
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Of course, I was only with Alex 30
years, so don't go by me.
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Now, yours truly.
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Sign? Can you give me a hand with this?
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Oh, this is something.
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A proclamation from the city council.
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A lovely verse from the Roses in January
Society.
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The walnuts didn't travel very well. I
believe I'll leave them in.
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Oh, my.
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I believe this is the Pastor Cross.
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The Matheson's family gift to the city
of Los Angeles.
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Thank you all for coming.
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Remind me not to store my gold jewelry
in granite. That thing turned green.
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Anything real gold turned green.
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Gentlemen, I'd love to get a shot of you
all together.
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Why don't you get them, pal? It's their
party.
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Billy, I got news for you.
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This feud's alive and well.
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How sick do you think the old guy is?
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Maybe he's had another stroke.
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You think he's sick enough to ask them
to bring it out?
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Well, maybe we should start watching the
house.
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This could be our chance.
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Yeah.
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Excuse me.
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Is there something I can do for you?
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No.
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Lou Grant will continue in a moment here
on A &E.
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I told advertising to run it any time we
have something drop out in the next few
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days. Fine. What's it about?
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Well, I considered soliciting items for
the new time capsule from official
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sources. Wouldn't that be awfully
predictable?
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I'm going to go straight to the public.
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You're going to get swamped. That's my
hope.
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Tell me, where would you go to buy a
time capsule?
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Geez, they're making you do it all,
aren't they?
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Can't you find a manufacturer?
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A time capsule manufacturer?
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Try and find that in your yellow pages.
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No, Mr. Hume. It's a lost art, like loot
making.
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Or TV repair.
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Hey, have you checked with a casket
maker?
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Spare me. Don't they seem perfect? They
have all that subterranean business down
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pat.
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You may be right.
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Should I make a couple calls for you?
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Just don't let them talk you into
anything with a satin lining.
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All I'm saying is that the cross I saw
didn't measure up to what I read about.
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So it wasn't worth the bill, then?
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Have you ever seen the Mona Lisa in
person?
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No. Well, everybody says it's smaller
than they figured it could be. Have you
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seen the Mona Lisa?
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No.
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But I met Forrest Evashevsky once, which
is the same thing.
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He's a big guy, but not as big as I
thought he was.
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He knows perfectly well I never heard of
Forrest Evashevsky.
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Who's Tom Harmon's blocker at Michigan?
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He knows perfectly well I never heard of
Tom Harmon.
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Ricky Nelson's father -in -law.
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Oh.
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Have you ever heard of Lasagna?
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Yes. Did you ever see a frozen lasagna
that looked as good as the picture on
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box? No.
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It's hyped.
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It's like the Mona Lisa's hyped.
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It's like the Pastore Costas hyped a
hundred years ago. It's simple as that.
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Keep talking about hype.
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Never loan me books again. Never. Aren't
you trustworthy?
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Trustworthy? I'm conscience -stricken.
I'm afraid to leave them in my car or on
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my desk because they're somebody else's
and I end up lugging them around with me
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all the time.
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All this is my reporter's gracious way
of saying thank you. And I hope that we
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work together again on another exciting
story.
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What, are you leaving?
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What did you think about the cross?
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Nice. I thought it was nice.
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Well, I was disappointed.
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Were you?
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So was I. That grimy little green thing.
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Do you think that people were
exaggerating when they talked about how
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spectacular it was?
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You know what bothers me?
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That cornerstone was sitting there for a
few days.
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What kind of security does demolition
site get?
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Practically none.
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Especially since nobody knew the
cornerstone contained anything valuable.
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Well, what if somebody did know?
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Well, we found out. What if somebody
else did, too?
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You think someone stole the cross to
replace it with a fake one?
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I'm just throwing open the question for
discussion.
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I mean, even as a hunk of gold, that
cross has got to be worth an awful lot.
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it's a matter of public record that it
was there.
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We saw the capsule cracked open. It was
mortared shut.
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But how long does it take mortar to dry?
Maybe it was opened and re -mortared.
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Besides, I didn't think real gold turned
green.
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Neither did I. A simple little test
could straighten this out.
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You think the capsule was tampered with?
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I don't.
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Well, I have a reporter here who is a
little concerned that your pastor cross
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not the pastor cross.
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I'm sure he's wrong.
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She? Her name is Billy Newman.
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Oh, yes.
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The girl who wrote the story.
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That's right.
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I'll bet the museum would be willing to
analyze the cross.
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Would you let them take a look at it?
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Well, I'd be a fool not to, don't you
think?
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Crossy? I'll send him up, I guess.
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Where?
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A Conrad von Hauser wants to see me.
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Who's that?
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You mean he's not some famous block and
tackle from out of the past?
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Sounds like he should be in puttees.
With a shaved head and a megaphone. The
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kind of guy who always takes the stairs.
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I think he's here.
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We really nailed that one.
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Oh, Mr. Von Hassel. Miss Newman?
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Yes. What can I do for you? Mr.
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Matheson asked me to pay you a visit.
Mr. Alex Matheson? That's right.
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Come right in here.
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Who?
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What do you need me for? I want you to
hear this.
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Mr. Matheson knew you were concerned
about the authenticity of the Pasteur
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course. He asked me to share the results
of my test with you.
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Mr. Van Hazen, this is Lou Grant.
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I'm just here to listen. Are you from a
museum?
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I'm an independent appraiser and a
chemist. Is the course genuine?
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In my opinion, without a doubt.
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Why is it green?
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The cornerstone was lined in copper and
not entirely airtight.
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And the walnuts... emitted gases as they
began to break down. And finally, the
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method for refining gold was much cruder
200 years ago.
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And those impurities within the metal
reacted with the gases, resulting in a
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greenish cast on the cross.
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I see.
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Here is my verification that the stones
are genuine.
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And this authenticates the style and
craftsmanship as appropriate for the
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18th century.
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And here are x -rays taken of the cross.
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Do you have copies of these?
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These are copies.
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Then can I keep them?
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Of course.
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I guess I'm kind of disappointed.
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That's true of so many legendary works.
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The Mona Lisa, for example, is much
smaller than people realize.
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So is Forrest Avershevsky.
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Please.
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Can we call you if we have any
questions? Of course. We'll be in touch.
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I thought you were going to listen.
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I did.
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You must feel like a price cassava right
now, wasting our valuable time like
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that. I could have been right.
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Here, this is yours.
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Thanks.
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00:20:03,030 --> 00:20:05,230
All right, enough is enough.
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00:20:05,710 --> 00:20:06,710
What?
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Mrs. Pinchon telling me what I can't
write.
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00:20:11,570 --> 00:20:14,990
Now listen, Mrs. Pinchon, at your paper
and at your rug I'm standing on...
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and it's your door I just accidentally
slammed. That's right, Mr. Grant, as far
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as the eye can see, unless you look out
of the window. What do you want? I don't
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mind when you call me with story ideas.
Oh, sure you do. Well, I do, but not as
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much as I did at first.
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But when you go around me, when you deal
directly with my reporters... Which I
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never do.
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00:20:31,530 --> 00:20:34,930
Well, you certainly do. Not only go
around me, but kill a story out of the
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What? When it's a story you wanted in
the first place.
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00:20:38,450 --> 00:20:39,450
I didn't do it.
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Are you denying you called the city room
and told Billy to forget the past door
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cross follow -up?
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I swear to you, on my desk, on my rug,
and my $3 million
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loan at 20 % floating interest, I have
not called Miss Newman since she wrote
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that grisly story about the man who kept
the Gila monsters in his car.
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00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:05,740
I believe you.
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00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,680
Must be some mix -up. I'm sure that's
it.
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Sorry I jumped the gun.
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00:21:12,220 --> 00:21:13,220
It's understandable.
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00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,720
Why don't we just forget this ever
happened?
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Not on your life.
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00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,840
Was it Mrs. Pinchon who called for Billy
or her secretary?
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00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:22,260
Neither. Were you sure it was a he?
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Disguising his voice.
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Right, Lou. And hoping a dummy would
answer.
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He was just a normal -sounding man.
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He said he had a message, and the
message was that Mrs. Pinchon wanted
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stop whatever it was.
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00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,340
Someone's trying to keep you off the
story?
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You mean somebody besides you?
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00:21:39,690 --> 00:21:43,470
Notarized authentications, right? Look
at the notary seal. It's expired.
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In 1962.
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00:21:45,950 --> 00:21:49,090
He tells us about gases escaping from
decaying walnut.
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Do I say that's the dumbest thing I ever
heard? Do you?
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Not true, huh? Oh, Conrad, that is a
bunk sandwich, and we swallowed it
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00:21:57,250 --> 00:22:00,850
We're holding up x -rays and nodding
like we know what we're looking for.
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00:22:01,270 --> 00:22:02,270
I am not.
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00:22:02,710 --> 00:22:03,810
Who's the cassava now?
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00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:06,770
Aren't you sick to death of being the
Madison's fool?
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00:22:07,530 --> 00:22:09,450
When are you going to turn me loose on
this story?
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00:22:09,790 --> 00:22:10,790
Tonight.
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Thanks. Okay, here's my list of all the
ways the cross was described in the
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past. Palm -sized.
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And the one we've got is four by three,
palm -sized.
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00:22:25,290 --> 00:22:26,510
Okay. Gold?
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00:22:26,810 --> 00:22:30,110
Well, we know this one is a lot less
gold than something else, probably
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Hammered? Hammered, right.
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00:22:33,030 --> 00:22:36,550
Adorned with native stones, tourmaline,
agate, and morganite?
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00:22:37,070 --> 00:22:38,029
So is this one.
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00:22:38,030 --> 00:22:40,910
The Paso brand is on the back. That's
there. I remember the letter P.
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00:22:41,390 --> 00:22:42,390
Right.
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00:22:42,550 --> 00:22:45,890
Each family had a brand registered with
the Spanish government. They used it to
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keep the livestock straight. I've got a
monograph on it.
408
00:22:53,910 --> 00:22:55,010
It's not alphabetical.
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00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:56,330
Are the Pastors in there?
410
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:58,590
Ah,
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Pastor. You're right. The letter P.
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Let's look at the P on the cross.
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00:23:06,820 --> 00:23:07,960
That's not the same.
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00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:09,800
No. That's not a brand.
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00:23:11,740 --> 00:23:14,960
It's not because I want it so badly, and
it's not because I've had nothing but
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oranges since breakfast. The newspaper
said brand, and the pastoral brand has a
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00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,160
little tail on it. It certainly does.
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00:23:21,380 --> 00:23:22,800
Which the cross does not.
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00:23:23,020 --> 00:23:23,919
You're right.
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00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,120
Dr. Shepard, the Matheson family has
given the city of Los Angeles a cheap
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imitation. What do you say we tell the
world?
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00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,040
We've got a couple of classes together,
and, uh, you know how you feel like you
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know each other if you see a person day
after day?
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00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,420
So I invited her to a movie, and she
said she'd really like it.
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00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,920
Where are you going to take her?
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00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:46,900
Where do I always take her to the first
date?
427
00:23:47,340 --> 00:23:48,340
Right, Granddad?
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00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,720
Mario's tomorrow night.
429
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,080
You need something, Dad?
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00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:54,900
Got any paper?
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00:24:14,860 --> 00:24:16,440
really a bad time to try to bring it
out.
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00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:19,840
Must really feel like he needs it.
433
00:24:21,780 --> 00:24:22,780
I'll get it for you, Dad.
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Soon.
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00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,600
I promise.
436
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Lou Grant will continue in a moment here
on A &E.
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A &E returns to Lou Grant.
438
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,840
I'm sorry. I am not allowed to tell
anyone what a stinker Alex was.
439
00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:46,720
That was part of the settlement.
440
00:24:48,740 --> 00:24:55,040
Listen, I don't know what he did to you
in 30 years, but he has given the city a
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00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,980
worthless fake for which he will
probably get a tax write -off.
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00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,600
Unless he's exposed.
443
00:25:01,260 --> 00:25:05,220
Now, maybe you're not interested in
revenge, but we are.
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00:25:09,580 --> 00:25:13,260
Anything I tell you, I'm not telling
you. Fair enough?
445
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,560
Thank you.
446
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,560
What is your ex -husband's relationship
to the other part of the Matheson
447
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,460
family? They're not so rich, Matheson.
448
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,840
We are the filthy rich Mathesons.
449
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,200
Oh, jeez.
450
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,660
Well, the first I knew of it was when I
invited them to little Alex's
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christening by mistake.
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And Alex went crazy.
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He had his lawyer send him a letter
saying, don't come, you're not invited
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all.
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00:25:39,820 --> 00:25:42,060
And that was lesson number one.
456
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:43,760
I never knew.
457
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,980
Do you have any idea why some members of
the family would be watching the house?
458
00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:51,180
You mean snooping?
459
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,040
No,
460
00:25:54,140 --> 00:25:55,140
why would you think that?
461
00:25:55,740 --> 00:25:57,280
Something I overheard at the ceremony.
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00:25:58,020 --> 00:25:59,400
I can't imagine why.
463
00:26:00,860 --> 00:26:03,300
I would love to meet one of the Matheson
men.
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00:26:03,740 --> 00:26:05,580
Could you get me an introduction to your
son?
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00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:08,100
Come on, come on.
466
00:26:08,410 --> 00:26:09,830
Watch your step, though. It's a little
bit slippery.
467
00:26:10,050 --> 00:26:14,170
Alex, are you sure we're allowed in
here? This is a drainage ditch. Sure.
468
00:26:14,530 --> 00:26:17,470
This whole mural's sponsored by that
historical society my dad's in.
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00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:19,290
I did the Pueblo Street.
470
00:26:19,710 --> 00:26:21,490
Oh, with the adobe and everything?
471
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:23,750
No, no, no, no, the street. The dirt.
472
00:26:24,130 --> 00:26:25,130
I colored it in.
473
00:26:26,190 --> 00:26:27,190
It's neat, isn't it?
474
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:30,270
I like drawing, but I gotta say I'm
pretty awful at it.
475
00:26:31,330 --> 00:26:32,690
Anyhow, is this thing great or what?
476
00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:33,990
It is great.
477
00:26:34,150 --> 00:26:35,890
I never heard of ditch painting before.
478
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,420
If you don't like how it turned out, you
can wait for the rainy season, right?
479
00:26:39,780 --> 00:26:40,900
Oh, it's not going to wash off.
480
00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:42,800
I hope it's not going to wash off.
481
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,960
I think it's really appropriate in L .A.
for us to paint a zanya.
482
00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:47,900
That's ditches in Spanish.
483
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,040
That's the way the city got its water
for 100 years, in ditches. And every
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00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:53,579
a flood.
485
00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:55,140
You're really steeped in history, huh?
486
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,420
I'm really steeped in ditch history and
what I know I flaunt.
487
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:03,940
My great -great -grandfather's first job
here was as a zanjaro.
488
00:27:04,620 --> 00:27:05,620
That's ditch digger.
489
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,320
I made them put him in the mural.
490
00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:09,120
See the guy right up here in the brown
hat?
491
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,300
Oh, it looks like you.
492
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,640
Yeah, right.
493
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:14,940
I guess he was really kind of a pirate.
494
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,200
Not on a ship or anything, just a guy
who thought rules were for other people.
495
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,680
Dad says that's what L .A. was like back
then.
496
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,680
But I'll tell you something. I like
thinking that there's a gene or a
497
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:27,860
or something in that old guy and me.
498
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,120
Even if it's a ditch -digger chromosome.
499
00:27:31,420 --> 00:27:32,420
Come on, I'll show you the rest.
500
00:27:37,220 --> 00:27:38,220
You see this up here?
501
00:27:38,260 --> 00:27:41,300
Uh -huh. All this blue? Uh -huh. And the
water down here? I did all that.
502
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,020
Oh, you colored that in?
503
00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:44,580
Well, yeah.
504
00:28:15,870 --> 00:28:16,870
Mr. Matheson?
505
00:28:18,990 --> 00:28:19,990
Oh, hi.
506
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:21,750
I've been talking to your son.
507
00:28:22,010 --> 00:28:25,610
He's seeing if he can find a picture of
your ancestor, the Zon Harrow.
508
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:26,830
All right.
509
00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:30,330
It looks like you've been doing a little
ditch digging yourself.
510
00:28:31,770 --> 00:28:35,690
Well, the gardener left the sprinkler
on, and I had to turn it off.
511
00:28:36,550 --> 00:28:37,690
Billy, I've got it.
512
00:28:39,470 --> 00:28:40,470
Nice to see you again.
513
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,060
It's hard to realize there's a real guy
there. I think it's that old -time
514
00:28:45,060 --> 00:28:46,160
photography. Yeah.
515
00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:48,460
Uh, Alex?
516
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,600
Yeah?
517
00:28:51,220 --> 00:28:54,780
I know that the cross your family gave
the city is a fake.
518
00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:56,180
What?
519
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,360
And I know your family has the real
cross.
520
00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:03,140
I know about the fighting with the other
side of the family and how they're
521
00:29:03,140 --> 00:29:04,420
planning to watch the house.
522
00:29:04,740 --> 00:29:05,740
Who told you?
523
00:29:06,460 --> 00:29:10,000
I can't say. I know who told you. It was
either Brad or Don.
524
00:29:10,490 --> 00:29:11,870
I can't tell you if it were Brad or Don.
525
00:29:12,110 --> 00:29:13,530
And they told you about Eagle's Nest, I
suppose.
526
00:29:14,770 --> 00:29:18,870
Sure. You better get your facts
straight, because I'll tell you right
527
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:19,870
and Don are liars.
528
00:29:21,530 --> 00:29:23,310
Are you F. Charles Hume?
529
00:29:24,670 --> 00:29:26,230
Oh, my God.
530
00:29:26,830 --> 00:29:27,830
You are?
531
00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:29,550
I told Billy you couldn't be.
532
00:29:30,250 --> 00:29:35,250
I was a 23 -year -old kid at the time. I
suppose you weren't pretentious at 23.
533
00:29:36,090 --> 00:29:37,990
F. Charles Hume.
534
00:29:38,570 --> 00:29:39,770
Where'd you catch up with me?
535
00:29:40,010 --> 00:29:41,650
It's a byline in a clip file.
536
00:29:41,890 --> 00:29:43,270
What does the F stand for?
537
00:29:43,610 --> 00:29:47,630
It doesn't stand for anything, unless
you count F. Scott Fitzgerald.
538
00:29:48,390 --> 00:29:52,470
I didn't realize I ever had a byline
back in my cub reporting days.
539
00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:53,830
This was before Detroit?
540
00:29:54,170 --> 00:29:54,889
Oh, yeah.
541
00:29:54,890 --> 00:29:57,890
This was my very first job while I was
still in college.
542
00:29:58,550 --> 00:30:01,190
Well, I've got a question for you, F.
Charles.
543
00:30:01,790 --> 00:30:02,790
Sure.
544
00:30:03,530 --> 00:30:06,310
1949, James Donald Matheson died.
545
00:30:06,790 --> 00:30:07,790
Yeah, yeah.
546
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,760
Freak hunting accident at a family
estate high in the Sierras.
547
00:30:12,980 --> 00:30:14,940
I don't remember this too well.
548
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,100
Billy's trying to figure out what
something called Eagle's Nest is, and
549
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:20,100
across this clip.
550
00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:24,240
Could the family estate mentioned in the
story be Eagle's Nest?
551
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,540
Certainly what I'd name my family
estate.
552
00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:29,420
I wish I could tell you for sure.
553
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,300
Gee, the guy was 24.
554
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:37,180
I remember this. This was a terrible
story.
555
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,820
The family kept it quiet because it was
such a sad accident.
556
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,640
This guy, James Matheson, had arrived
for a visit and nobody knew that he was
557
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,640
the grounds.
558
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,780
Other members of the family were out
hunting.
559
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,160
And this poor guy, James, he didn't have
a red jacket or anything.
560
00:30:54,220 --> 00:30:55,960
They saw motion in the woods.
561
00:30:56,700 --> 00:31:00,980
They shot him. That poor family, they
were devastated.
562
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:02,760
I bet they were.
563
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,920
First of all, the cross is ours.
564
00:31:07,390 --> 00:31:12,130
My great -great -grandfather told my
great -grandfather, before he died, that
565
00:31:12,130 --> 00:31:14,550
matter what happened, he wanted him to
have it.
566
00:31:14,970 --> 00:31:18,770
Because they thought it saved him when
he was real sick as a baby.
567
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:20,890
Have you got the cross?
568
00:31:21,370 --> 00:31:22,370
We will.
569
00:31:23,010 --> 00:31:24,230
You're planning to steal it?
570
00:31:24,590 --> 00:31:25,630
They stole it.
571
00:31:26,190 --> 00:31:27,290
We're just getting it back.
572
00:31:27,810 --> 00:31:29,370
What is your claim to the cross?
573
00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:31,890
We've had it 80 out of the last 100
years.
574
00:31:32,290 --> 00:31:35,370
That ought to tell you something.
They've got no scruples about taking
575
00:31:35,370 --> 00:31:36,370
isn't theirs.
576
00:31:36,460 --> 00:31:38,100
Now, you see how rich they all got.
577
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,080
You think you'd get that rich by
respecting what belongs to others?
578
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,680
The whole other side of the family is
bitter because we made it and they
579
00:31:44,140 --> 00:31:45,720
It sounds terrible, but that's the
truth.
580
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,740
What is so important about the cross?
581
00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:52,380
Well, they used to think it had healing
powers.
582
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,040
My granddad kind of believes that, too.
583
00:31:56,020 --> 00:31:57,920
I don't know, when I'm an old guy, I may
even believe it myself.
584
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,380
That cross is our connection with where
we came from. Who we are. Our father was
585
00:32:02,380 --> 00:32:04,460
James Matheson. He was just 25.
586
00:32:05,260 --> 00:32:06,620
And just getting out of the service.
587
00:32:07,620 --> 00:32:09,560
When he found out that Maxwell Sr.
588
00:32:10,060 --> 00:32:13,680
was sick and the cross would be coming
out at Eagle's Nest. There was never any
589
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,680
hunting accident.
590
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,980
James Matheson went to Eagle's Nest to
steal.
591
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,400
Remember now, my father was totally
alone.
592
00:32:19,660 --> 00:32:20,660
He had a gun and a knife.
593
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,240
There weren't even any bullets in the
gun.
594
00:32:22,460 --> 00:32:23,460
It was dark.
595
00:32:23,740 --> 00:32:27,160
Everyone thought he was a prowler. He
knew all along who he was. We fired into
596
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,360
the air, but he kept coming. They said
there was a warning shot.
597
00:32:31,980 --> 00:32:33,680
All I know is my father was hit.
598
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,000
It was a terrible tragedy.
599
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:38,200
But you put yourself in the wrong place
at the wrong time.
600
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,060
Terrible tragedies can happen.
601
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,340
My family made up the story about the
hunting accident to keep the world from
602
00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:45,860
knowing that James Matheson was a thief.
603
00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:51,060
Our side of the family went along with
the newspaper story because the truth
604
00:32:51,060 --> 00:32:52,180
couldn't come out about the cross.
605
00:32:52,860 --> 00:32:56,260
Our father, James Matheson, bled to
death on the way to the hospital.
606
00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:57,660
August 1949.
607
00:32:58,460 --> 00:32:59,660
August 5th, 1949.
608
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:04,100
My great -grandfather, Maxwell Matheson
Sr., died later that week.
609
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,200
But he was holding the cross.
610
00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:15,700
They're coming, Granddad. Let me take
the cross.
611
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:27,780
Kyle, you remember my son, Alex Jr.?
Hello.
612
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,480
This is Bree.
613
00:33:30,140 --> 00:33:31,750
Dad? Dr. Geiler's here.
614
00:33:32,390 --> 00:33:34,270
Mr. Matheson, how are we doing tonight?
615
00:33:35,870 --> 00:33:37,630
Would you like some help from either of
the gentlemen?
616
00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:40,630
No. If you'll excuse us for a few
minutes.
617
00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:41,849
Of course.
618
00:33:41,850 --> 00:33:42,850
Huh?
619
00:34:12,270 --> 00:34:14,130
You can't talk him into having an egg in
the morning.
620
00:34:14,530 --> 00:34:15,530
I'll try.
621
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:17,230
He only wants ice cream.
622
00:34:17,530 --> 00:34:18,530
They spoil him.
623
00:34:18,750 --> 00:34:19,830
Well, do what you can.
624
00:34:20,530 --> 00:34:21,929
Good night, Mr. Matheson.
625
00:34:23,310 --> 00:34:24,310
Here you are.
626
00:34:24,510 --> 00:34:25,510
Thanks.
627
00:34:29,330 --> 00:34:31,350
Did I come in with a coat?
628
00:34:32,510 --> 00:34:33,510
I don't think so.
629
00:34:34,889 --> 00:34:36,050
Good night.
630
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:37,790
Good night.
631
00:34:56,399 --> 00:34:58,040
Doctor, how is Mr. Matheson?
632
00:34:58,660 --> 00:35:00,940
He's comfortable. We're keeping an eye
on him.
633
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,260
You a member of the family?
634
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,640
No, I'm a reporter.
635
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,640
Oh, well, nothing's going to happen in
that house tonight.
636
00:35:07,980 --> 00:35:10,100
You go home. Get out of the night air.
637
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,880
Good idea.
638
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,480
Oh, doctor.
639
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,280
Oh, thank you. Yeah, good night.
640
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,520
Good night.
641
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,360
Hold it right there!
642
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,560
It's gone.
643
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,320
Lou Grant will continue in a moment here
on A &E.
644
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,600
So the doctor pulls away and I'm sitting
there in my car in front of this big
645
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,380
Spanish mansion wondering what I'm doing
there when all of a sudden all these
646
00:36:11,380 --> 00:36:15,960
floodlights go on. I hear angry voices.
The gate opens and a big black car about
647
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,820
a block long comes screaming down the
driveway right at me.
648
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:19,759
The Batmobile?
649
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,560
No, the Matheson's. The car swerves. It
flies up the road and disappears.
650
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:27,060
Meantime, she's flooded the engine. The
center's cold. What else could she do?
651
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,860
She calls me. She didn't have any idea
where they were going, but I figured
652
00:36:30,860 --> 00:36:32,740
were headed for a showdown with the
other side of the family.
653
00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:36,350
So anyway, we get to Brad and Don's
condominium just as the police are
654
00:36:36,350 --> 00:36:37,350
the magazines away.
655
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:42,130
The boys? No, Alex and his son. And
they've been accused of ransacking the
656
00:36:42,130 --> 00:36:45,510
condominium. I followed Alex and the kid
to Hillside Division where they accused
657
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:48,930
their doctor of conspiring with Brad and
Don to steal a piece of jewelry. The
658
00:36:48,930 --> 00:36:49,930
cross. It's the cross.
659
00:36:50,050 --> 00:36:50,968
They wouldn't say.
660
00:36:50,970 --> 00:36:51,970
It's the cross.
661
00:36:52,290 --> 00:36:56,670
And they're blaming the doctor? You saw
him last night. The doctor claims his
662
00:36:56,670 --> 00:36:59,450
medical bag was stolen by a kid who
wanted the drugs in it. He says he's
663
00:36:59,450 --> 00:37:00,299
innocent.
664
00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:02,940
We were this close to the cross and we
lost it.
665
00:37:03,660 --> 00:37:05,420
I think it's time to write your story.
666
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,940
This is the art department. Read the
stories they illustrate.
667
00:37:15,340 --> 00:37:16,640
They told me no one gave them any
instructions.
668
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,000
It's described in the story.
669
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:21,900
What's going on? Oh, look at what
they've drawn for the Pasteur brand.
670
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:24,360
a plain old letter P, which is entirely
wrong.
671
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,080
Just show me what it should be and I'll
take care of it personally.
672
00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:29,580
It has a little tail on the end of it.
673
00:37:30,190 --> 00:37:34,830
Dry. Boy, you've got to spill everything
out, and even then it's a crapshoot.
674
00:37:37,310 --> 00:37:38,990
It's the top part of a shepherd's crook.
675
00:37:39,610 --> 00:37:43,690
Exactly. Thank you. Tell them it's a
shepherd's crook, and maybe then they'll
676
00:37:43,690 --> 00:37:44,549
get it right.
677
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:45,550
Fine with me.
678
00:37:51,970 --> 00:37:57,150
Whoa. I am so dumb. I was so dumb. Now I
am so smart.
679
00:38:01,130 --> 00:38:02,610
What did the Pastors do for a living?
680
00:38:03,250 --> 00:38:04,250
Which Pastors?
681
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:07,010
The ones who first came to Los Angeles.
682
00:38:07,450 --> 00:38:10,750
The Spanish government recruited
settlers according to their skills,
683
00:38:11,010 --> 00:38:12,350
What did the Pastors do?
684
00:38:12,970 --> 00:38:13,990
They raised sheep.
685
00:38:15,390 --> 00:38:19,050
Which is why they designed their brand
as the top of a shepherd's cook.
686
00:38:20,750 --> 00:38:21,750
Sure.
687
00:38:24,430 --> 00:38:27,230
I really appreciate all the help you've
given me on this story.
688
00:38:27,930 --> 00:38:28,930
It's my pleasure.
689
00:38:30,670 --> 00:38:33,730
Whenever I dead -ended, you always gave
me something to keep me going.
690
00:38:35,350 --> 00:38:36,350
Glad to help.
691
00:38:36,450 --> 00:38:39,830
I was ready to drop the story when you
told me you thought the cross was a
692
00:38:39,830 --> 00:38:43,410
disappointment. And I wouldn't have
found out about the brands if it hadn't
693
00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:44,410
for you.
694
00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:48,450
You even kept me on the story without me
knowing it. What do you mean?
695
00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:51,950
Calling the paper with that phony
message from Mrs.
696
00:38:52,170 --> 00:38:54,330
Pinchon. I'm sure you knew how mad that
would make me.
697
00:38:55,110 --> 00:38:56,130
Now you're guessing.
698
00:38:57,010 --> 00:38:58,010
Yes.
699
00:39:00,010 --> 00:39:05,390
But I'm not guessing that the name
Pastor translates in English as
700
00:39:08,030 --> 00:39:09,850
Where's the cross, Dr. Shepherd?
701
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:13,210
Are you going to the time capsule
ceremony tomorrow?
702
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:15,330
You haven't answered my question.
703
00:39:15,810 --> 00:39:16,810
Yes, I have.
704
00:39:17,870 --> 00:39:24,070
From Sandy Boland of La Puente, an
itemized bill from her auto mechanic.
705
00:39:24,910 --> 00:39:27,950
From Mr. and Mrs. Ralph Olinsky of Santa
Monica.
706
00:39:28,620 --> 00:39:35,300
This can of Diet Tiki Fruit Punch with a
note to future Angelenos. You've
707
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:40,020
probably dug up a lot of these plastic
things with six holes and wondered what
708
00:39:40,020 --> 00:39:41,880
they were. Now you know.
709
00:39:43,900 --> 00:39:47,720
I'm from Diana Lopez in Monterey Park,
age 11.
710
00:39:48,020 --> 00:39:54,900
Our school lunch menu for the week past
with stars
711
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:57,680
drawn after...
712
00:39:57,980 --> 00:40:02,980
Items that she liked the most, including
pizza burger and something called
713
00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:09,520
bloody pudding. And she's written ick
next to fiesta casserole and vegetable
714
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,520
medley.
715
00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:18,620
From Harold Chen of Westwood, one day's
classified section of the Los Angeles
716
00:40:18,620 --> 00:40:20,540
Times. From? Also.
717
00:40:20,780 --> 00:40:25,380
Excuse me, go ahead. He has included a
copy of the city budget.
718
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,900
for this bicentennial year.
719
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:34,680
From Joan and Paul Giancarlo, a packet
of all the junk mail they received in a
720
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,680
week.
721
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:40,280
And I break for Blonde's bumper sticker.
722
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,840
From Kurt Bradley of Pond.
723
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:51,080
And this is from a fellow Angeleno who
wishes to remain anonymous.
724
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,760
A plastic packet filled with assorted...
725
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,920
Uh, pills.
726
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:04,840
And finally, a snapshot from the Tran
family of Van Nuys taken last Labor Day.
727
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:06,600
Thank you all.
728
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:17,600
Alex Matheson, whose building this will
be, cannot be with us today because of a
729
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,600
family emergency.
730
00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:20,100
He has asked Dr.
731
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,920
Michael Shepard of the Friends of the
Past to address us. Dr. Shepard.
732
00:41:31,630 --> 00:41:36,850
As those of you who read the Tribune
today know, the cross donated in the
733
00:41:36,850 --> 00:41:41,470
Matheson name to the city of Los Angeles
is not the authentic Pastor Cross,
734
00:41:41,770 --> 00:41:46,310
which is probably just as well, since it
was never the Mathesons to give away in
735
00:41:46,310 --> 00:41:47,310
the first place.
736
00:41:48,970 --> 00:41:55,570
Louis Maria Pastor, the man who made the
cross, was swindled out of everything
737
00:41:55,570 --> 00:41:58,510
he had long ago by the first of the
Mathesons.
738
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,180
On behalf of his descendants, Mr.
739
00:42:03,420 --> 00:42:10,420
and Mrs. Alfred Shepard, and my sister,
Mrs. Virginia Dupree, on behalf of
740
00:42:10,420 --> 00:42:16,940
my grandfather, Arthur Lewis Shepard,
who worked for 42 years in the boiler
741
00:42:16,940 --> 00:42:21,300
of the Matheson building, so that when
the next earthquake came, he would be
742
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:23,620
first to retrieve his great
-grandfather's cross.
743
00:42:24,340 --> 00:42:26,680
I'm glad he never learned they buried a
fake.
744
00:42:28,650 --> 00:42:33,670
On behalf of all of the men and women
who built the city of Los Angeles, whose
745
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:39,690
names will never be remembered because
they could not write, and whose pictures
746
00:42:39,690 --> 00:42:46,690
were never recorded because no one
thought to do it, I return the Pastor
747
00:42:46,690 --> 00:42:49,090
Cross to our city of angels.
748
00:42:51,550 --> 00:42:54,730
Ah, my Lord, he's got it.
749
00:43:27,370 --> 00:43:30,310
property. You arranged your whole life
to get your hands on that cross and you
750
00:43:30,310 --> 00:43:31,310
just gave it back.
751
00:43:31,350 --> 00:43:34,310
There was nothing else to do. If I kept
the cross, it wouldn't legally be mine.
752
00:43:34,750 --> 00:43:37,390
Besides, I just wanted to set the record
straight.
753
00:43:38,670 --> 00:43:39,670
It's nuts.
754
00:43:40,650 --> 00:43:41,650
You're nuts.
755
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:44,030
Oh.
756
00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:47,130
Margaret.
757
00:43:49,250 --> 00:43:50,370
Where are you headed, Margaret?
758
00:43:51,490 --> 00:43:52,890
Back to paper. Walking?
759
00:43:54,759 --> 00:43:57,940
I hope you don't mind my using the
Tribune the way I did.
760
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,040
I think we did rather well.
761
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,720
Have you got a minute?
762
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:05,260
I want to make a visit.
763
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,240
This is a big day.
764
00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:11,940
It's been a long time since I've been in
the old plaza church.
765
00:44:35,180 --> 00:44:36,520
That child getting married?
766
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,960
No, it's a presentation.
767
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,040
Quince Año's 15th birthday.
768
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,540
I was going to put it someplace more
public, but it didn't look right on
769
00:45:17,540 --> 00:45:18,540
Percy.
770
00:45:18,740 --> 00:45:20,380
What about the cross you just buried?
771
00:45:20,660 --> 00:45:23,560
An even worse fake than the one the
Mathesons had made.
772
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,260
I think it's the last place they'll look
for a cross, is the church.
773
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,680
I've got to regret letting Alex stay on
the board.
774
00:45:34,420 --> 00:45:36,320
He's going to try to have you fired.
775
00:45:36,780 --> 00:45:39,260
The smart money is on me, Margaret.
776
00:46:00,810 --> 00:46:04,270
It's a story told by his children,
colleagues, and enemies.
777
00:46:04,570 --> 00:46:08,670
We'll explore the complex political
career and little -known personal life
778
00:46:08,670 --> 00:46:11,610
Nikita Khrushchev tonight on an all -new
biography.
779
00:46:12,090 --> 00:46:15,390
Now, is a brilliant surgeon using his
skill to kill?
780
00:46:15,610 --> 00:46:19,410
Leonard Nimoy guest stars in Columbo,
next on A &E.
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