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I landed on my back. 13 00:00:32,867 --> 00:00:33,785 And then when I land, 14 00:00:33,868 --> 00:00:35,036 I thought the dog was gonna bite me, 15 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:36,496 but he licked me in the face. 16 00:00:36,579 --> 00:00:37,497 And then the lady came out, 17 00:00:37,580 --> 00:00:39,123 and, oh, my God, she was beautiful. 18 00:00:39,207 --> 00:00:40,625 And she was single. And now we're married. 19 00:00:40,708 --> 00:00:42,251 Like, you just have to... [alert beeps] 20 00:00:42,335 --> 00:00:45,296 I'm not lyin'; I just like to add a little, you know. 21 00:00:50,009 --> 00:00:53,012 [Cyndi Lauper's "Time After Time" playing] 22 00:00:53,095 --> 00:00:54,889 DJ Diesel, white guy classics. 23 00:00:54,972 --> 00:00:57,391 White guy classics. White guy classics. 24 00:00:57,475 --> 00:00:59,310 ♪ ♪ 25 00:01:00,603 --> 00:01:03,564 [a-ha's "Take On Me" playing] 26 00:01:03,648 --> 00:01:07,902 ♪ ♪ 27 00:01:07,985 --> 00:01:10,196 [laughter] 28 00:01:10,279 --> 00:01:11,656 That's how we did it in high school. 29 00:01:11,739 --> 00:01:13,032 ♪ ♪ 30 00:01:13,115 --> 00:01:15,493 Yeah. [chuckles] 31 00:01:15,576 --> 00:01:17,328 Yeah, that's how we did it. [laughs] 32 00:01:17,411 --> 00:01:19,455 - Meet Shaquille O'Neal. 33 00:01:19,539 --> 00:01:21,833 Averaging 47 points a game, 34 00:01:21,916 --> 00:01:24,001 Shaquille's a man among boys on the court. 35 00:01:24,085 --> 00:01:26,087 - That's a seven-footer! Are you serious? 36 00:01:26,170 --> 00:01:28,714 - LSU's Shaquille O'Neal is already being heralded 37 00:01:28,798 --> 00:01:30,383 as one of the top centers in the universe. 38 00:01:30,466 --> 00:01:31,926 - Square off, and they're brawling. 39 00:01:32,009 --> 00:01:35,429 - The Orlando Magic selects Shaquille O'Neal 40 00:01:35,513 --> 00:01:37,723 from Louisiana State University. 41 00:01:37,807 --> 00:01:40,560 - He brought the whole thing down. 42 00:01:40,643 --> 00:01:42,395 - I would like to present to Shaquille O'Neal 43 00:01:42,478 --> 00:01:45,147 the Most Valuable Rookie of the Year award. 44 00:01:45,231 --> 00:01:47,692 - And the young Orlando Magic have come here to win 45 00:01:47,775 --> 00:01:48,901 in Chicago. 46 00:01:48,985 --> 00:01:51,696 - They have swept the Orlando Magic! 47 00:01:51,779 --> 00:01:53,865 - Shaq signed the largest deal in sports history 48 00:01:53,948 --> 00:01:56,033 with the Los Angeles Lakers. 49 00:01:56,117 --> 00:01:58,995 - NBA MVP Shaquille O'Neal. 50 00:01:59,078 --> 00:02:01,247 - ♪ Take me on ♪ 51 00:02:01,330 --> 00:02:03,082 ♪ Take on me ♪ 52 00:02:03,165 --> 00:02:05,251 - I'ma bring the championship to Miami, I promise. 53 00:02:05,334 --> 00:02:07,628 - Congratulations, Miami. 54 00:02:07,712 --> 00:02:09,463 - ♪ In a day or two ♪ 55 00:02:09,547 --> 00:02:11,174 - Give it up to the greatest big man 56 00:02:11,257 --> 00:02:12,425 to ever play the game. 57 00:02:12,508 --> 00:02:14,343 - Can you dig it? 58 00:02:17,430 --> 00:02:20,433 - My mother comes from a very religious family. 59 00:02:20,516 --> 00:02:22,935 So after I was born, we were outcasted. 60 00:02:24,353 --> 00:02:26,147 - Well, it was 1970s. 61 00:02:26,230 --> 00:02:27,690 And a lot of the young women were looking 62 00:02:27,773 --> 00:02:30,234 for unique names for their children. 63 00:02:30,318 --> 00:02:31,903 And I wanted him to have a name 64 00:02:31,986 --> 00:02:34,030 that really spoke to who he was. 65 00:02:34,113 --> 00:02:36,699 So we looked into a book of Islamic names. 66 00:02:36,782 --> 00:02:39,744 Shaquille, meaning "little one," 67 00:02:39,827 --> 00:02:41,495 Rashaun, meaning "warrior," 68 00:02:41,579 --> 00:02:43,915 and you know our last name, O'Neal. 69 00:02:43,998 --> 00:02:47,084 Shaquille Rashaun O'Neal. 70 00:02:47,168 --> 00:02:49,462 - She brought me home to my grandmother's house. 71 00:02:49,545 --> 00:02:51,964 And it was like she saw a ray of light. 72 00:02:52,048 --> 00:02:53,466 'Cause I'ma tell you about the elderly women 73 00:02:53,549 --> 00:02:54,467 in my family. 74 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:56,302 All the stuff that's happened to me now? 75 00:02:56,385 --> 00:02:57,595 They knew. 76 00:02:57,678 --> 00:02:59,263 They knew. 77 00:02:59,347 --> 00:03:00,514 They would always say... 78 00:03:00,598 --> 00:03:02,308 - "Something special about that one." 79 00:03:02,934 --> 00:03:05,186 It was something, something special. 80 00:03:05,269 --> 00:03:08,814 We lived in a time where we had civil unrest. 81 00:03:08,898 --> 00:03:11,484 A lot of things were a Black and white issue. 82 00:03:11,567 --> 00:03:14,111 And there was just stress outside of the home. 83 00:03:14,195 --> 00:03:16,781 So laughter was one of the ways that we came together 84 00:03:16,864 --> 00:03:19,283 and just really enjoyed being together. 85 00:03:19,367 --> 00:03:21,285 And it made for a big, happy family. 86 00:03:21,369 --> 00:03:23,120 We call him Daddy Shaq sometimes 87 00:03:23,204 --> 00:03:25,289 'cause he was the oldest, and so he was the bossy one. 88 00:03:25,373 --> 00:03:28,125 And then we had Lateefah. She's the sensitive one. 89 00:03:28,209 --> 00:03:29,126 And then we had Ayesha. 90 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:30,836 She was the one that was full of joy 91 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:32,463 and full of laughter. 92 00:03:32,546 --> 00:03:33,673 And we got Jamal. 93 00:03:33,756 --> 00:03:36,676 He took on a piece of everybody else's personality. 94 00:03:36,759 --> 00:03:39,929 And then Phil being that strong disciplinarian. 95 00:03:40,012 --> 00:03:41,681 And then here I am, I'm the peacemaker. 96 00:03:41,764 --> 00:03:44,684 So we had a good time with our family. 97 00:03:44,767 --> 00:03:47,061 - Tell me about your service in the military. 98 00:03:47,144 --> 00:03:48,813 - Well, I'm stationed at Fort Sam Houston, Texas, 99 00:03:48,896 --> 00:03:49,981 in San Antonio. 100 00:03:50,064 --> 00:03:52,024 I'm a supply sergeant there. - Mm-hmm. 101 00:03:52,108 --> 00:03:54,694 - I'm assigned to the Academy of Health Science. 102 00:03:54,777 --> 00:03:56,153 - Mm-hmm. Looks like you've seen 103 00:03:56,237 --> 00:03:57,238 quite a bit of service too. 104 00:03:57,321 --> 00:03:59,699 - Oh, I've been there for 18 1/2 years. 105 00:03:59,782 --> 00:04:02,034 - I remember playing ball with his dad. 106 00:04:02,118 --> 00:04:04,036 We used to play every Sunday. 107 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,956 Phil was just a absolute beast. 108 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:10,167 He grew up inner city, where he played sports. 109 00:04:10,251 --> 00:04:12,169 And then he was a military man. 110 00:04:12,253 --> 00:04:13,713 - We got married when Shaquille 111 00:04:13,796 --> 00:04:15,214 was close to two years old. 112 00:04:15,297 --> 00:04:16,215 So Phil was his father. 113 00:04:16,298 --> 00:04:18,384 And he's the only man and father 114 00:04:18,467 --> 00:04:20,052 that Shaquille has ever known. 115 00:04:20,136 --> 00:04:23,723 - We were all product of inner-city strength. 116 00:04:23,806 --> 00:04:26,392 Phil made sure that his kids 117 00:04:26,475 --> 00:04:28,519 wouldn't follow that same pattern. 118 00:04:28,602 --> 00:04:29,687 - Oh, it was a lot of love, 119 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:30,896 a lot of discipline. 120 00:04:30,980 --> 00:04:32,148 Like, my dad didn't... 121 00:04:32,231 --> 00:04:33,858 he did some talking, 122 00:04:33,941 --> 00:04:36,610 but if you didn't listen, if you disobeyed, 123 00:04:36,694 --> 00:04:39,196 he'd put the crackdown on us. 124 00:04:39,280 --> 00:04:40,322 - He always told me, 125 00:04:40,406 --> 00:04:42,241 "I'ma make you better than I was." 126 00:04:42,324 --> 00:04:43,534 - And my dad would always tell us, 127 00:04:43,617 --> 00:04:45,327 "Y'all might hate my ways..." 128 00:04:45,411 --> 00:04:47,371 - "But you love my results." 129 00:04:47,455 --> 00:04:48,706 You ever heard that one? 130 00:04:48,789 --> 00:04:50,041 - The way I got a spankin', 131 00:04:50,124 --> 00:04:51,375 if you're looking on the outside, 132 00:04:51,459 --> 00:04:53,502 you would bring up the A word. 133 00:04:53,586 --> 00:04:54,545 But he would never come in 134 00:04:54,628 --> 00:04:56,756 and just knock me out for no reason. 135 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,966 I used to do a lot of kid stuff. 136 00:04:59,050 --> 00:05:00,760 Then a strange thing happens. 137 00:05:00,843 --> 00:05:02,595 As I'm starting to figure things out 138 00:05:02,678 --> 00:05:04,930 and be more responsible around the house, 139 00:05:05,014 --> 00:05:07,099 I realized that my last name is different 140 00:05:07,183 --> 00:05:09,018 from my brother's and sisters'. 141 00:05:09,101 --> 00:05:11,937 So I said, "Mommy, why is my name Shaquille O'Neal 142 00:05:12,021 --> 00:05:14,273 and Jamal, Lateefah, 143 00:05:14,356 --> 00:05:16,567 and Ayesha's last name is Harrison? 144 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:18,694 - We were just told that Shaquille was born 145 00:05:18,778 --> 00:05:21,113 before my mom and dad got married. 146 00:05:21,197 --> 00:05:24,366 He kept the name O'Neal because it just sounded good. 147 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:27,620 - And she said, "Baby, I always wanted 148 00:05:27,703 --> 00:05:29,789 "to tell you this. 149 00:05:29,872 --> 00:05:32,583 Sarge is not your real father." 150 00:05:32,666 --> 00:05:34,752 What? 151 00:05:34,835 --> 00:05:37,338 - I wanted to ensure that he knew the truth. 152 00:05:37,421 --> 00:05:40,341 And I introduced him when he got to an age 153 00:05:40,424 --> 00:05:41,759 where he would understand, 154 00:05:41,842 --> 00:05:44,178 because I didn't want him to hear that from anybody else. 155 00:05:44,261 --> 00:05:46,472 - She said, "Would you like to meet your real father?" 156 00:05:46,555 --> 00:05:49,141 - "Yeah, I can get away from this motherfucker now 157 00:05:49,225 --> 00:05:50,810 and go live with my other dad." 158 00:05:50,893 --> 00:05:54,188 And we get in the car, and guess where we end up at. 159 00:05:54,271 --> 00:05:57,108 The same projects I was born and raised in. 160 00:05:57,191 --> 00:05:59,360 So we go in this guy's house, Joe Toney, 161 00:05:59,443 --> 00:06:00,778 and we're sittin' talkin'. 162 00:06:00,861 --> 00:06:03,739 But I'm lookin' around like... 163 00:06:03,823 --> 00:06:05,616 "I'm not comin' back to this shit." 164 00:06:05,699 --> 00:06:07,284 - He didn't care. 165 00:06:07,368 --> 00:06:08,828 [chuckles] 166 00:06:08,911 --> 00:06:10,287 He's like, "Okay." 167 00:06:10,371 --> 00:06:11,622 - This guy... 168 00:06:11,705 --> 00:06:12,998 at two years old when you married him, 169 00:06:13,082 --> 00:06:15,292 and I look at him and all the spankings I took, 170 00:06:15,376 --> 00:06:17,002 that this is my daddy. 171 00:06:17,086 --> 00:06:19,463 [dramatic music] 172 00:06:19,547 --> 00:06:21,841 The power of love is great. 173 00:06:21,924 --> 00:06:24,510 We had so much love growing up. 174 00:06:24,593 --> 00:06:26,011 I thought I was rich. 175 00:06:26,095 --> 00:06:27,054 - Money was tight, 176 00:06:27,138 --> 00:06:29,348 but the love was overpowering the money, 177 00:06:29,431 --> 00:06:32,268 so we just all had this bond. 178 00:06:32,351 --> 00:06:33,853 - Our father had this motto, 179 00:06:33,936 --> 00:06:35,521 "If one jump in, 180 00:06:35,604 --> 00:06:36,981 we all jump in." 181 00:06:37,064 --> 00:06:39,483 One time, this girl, she hit me in the mouth. 182 00:06:39,567 --> 00:06:42,236 And I ran and told my sister. 183 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:44,989 - So I just immediately went and hit her. 184 00:06:45,072 --> 00:06:47,324 Her sister came from the side and blindsided me, 185 00:06:47,408 --> 00:06:49,118 so I fell on my back. 186 00:06:49,201 --> 00:06:52,246 So Shaquille grabbed the sister by the collar, 187 00:06:52,329 --> 00:06:55,332 and he took Ayesha, our younger sister's hand 188 00:06:55,416 --> 00:06:58,460 and started hitting her upside the face. 189 00:06:58,544 --> 00:07:01,130 And then the brother came down there... 190 00:07:01,213 --> 00:07:02,673 And this is when Shaquille... he was, like, 191 00:07:02,756 --> 00:07:05,384 all into wrestling, so he picked the brother up 192 00:07:05,467 --> 00:07:07,386 and he did, like, a backbreaker on him, 193 00:07:07,469 --> 00:07:09,221 and the guy's all on the floor. 194 00:07:09,305 --> 00:07:10,931 And then the mom came, and she's yelling. 195 00:07:11,015 --> 00:07:12,224 She's like, "Hey!" 196 00:07:12,308 --> 00:07:14,059 And then Shaquille's like, "Oh, my God, we gotta go. 197 00:07:14,143 --> 00:07:15,311 Let's run." 198 00:07:15,394 --> 00:07:17,271 So he grabbed us all up, and we took off running. 199 00:07:17,354 --> 00:07:18,981 And we get home, then... 200 00:07:19,064 --> 00:07:20,357 [knocking] 201 00:07:20,441 --> 00:07:22,359 Knock on the door, and she was like, 202 00:07:22,443 --> 00:07:25,070 "Yeah, your kids beat up my kids. 203 00:07:25,154 --> 00:07:28,032 "Your son did some kind of move on my son, 204 00:07:28,115 --> 00:07:30,534 and now his back is all hurting." 205 00:07:30,618 --> 00:07:33,287 And my dad was like, "Ooh, ooh, I'ma get y'all. 206 00:07:33,370 --> 00:07:34,330 Wait when they leave." 207 00:07:34,413 --> 00:07:36,207 My dad closed the door, and he was like, 208 00:07:36,290 --> 00:07:39,043 "That's right. That's what I'm talking about." 209 00:07:39,126 --> 00:07:41,128 [laughs] "One of y'all get in a fight, 210 00:07:41,212 --> 00:07:42,504 y'all all get in a fight." 211 00:07:42,588 --> 00:07:43,964 - We all looked out for each other. 212 00:07:44,048 --> 00:07:45,466 That's just the way it was. 213 00:07:45,549 --> 00:07:47,927 - Shaquille felt like he had to take care of us. 214 00:07:48,010 --> 00:07:49,637 "Listen, y'all are number one." 215 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,264 Never, "Okay, you do you." 216 00:07:52,348 --> 00:07:53,891 No, it's not like that. 217 00:07:54,433 --> 00:07:58,145 - Around Christmastime, my dad sits me down. 218 00:07:58,229 --> 00:08:00,940 Said, "Look, dog, you know, 219 00:08:01,023 --> 00:08:02,608 "when you get married you'll understand this. 220 00:08:02,691 --> 00:08:03,901 "You gotta take care of the ladies. 221 00:08:03,984 --> 00:08:05,903 "You always have to protect, 222 00:08:05,986 --> 00:08:08,155 "provide, and love for the ladies. 223 00:08:08,239 --> 00:08:10,074 "You know, I know you want the big boom box and all that, 224 00:08:10,157 --> 00:08:11,742 "but I can't get that right now. 225 00:08:11,825 --> 00:08:13,077 Next payday, I'll get it for you." 226 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,620 "No, that's cool." 227 00:08:14,703 --> 00:08:16,121 'Cause I'm all about family. 228 00:08:16,205 --> 00:08:17,581 And if I come in the house 229 00:08:17,665 --> 00:08:20,125 and see everybody smiling, I don't need nothing. 230 00:08:20,209 --> 00:08:23,545 I'm asleep in the room... not asleep, just fake sleep. 231 00:08:23,629 --> 00:08:25,297 So I hear everybody opening up their stuff, 232 00:08:25,381 --> 00:08:27,091 and I'm just laying there. 233 00:08:28,467 --> 00:08:29,927 And something hit me in the stomach. 234 00:08:30,010 --> 00:08:31,637 "Oh!" 235 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,639 And I look, and it was an autographed... 236 00:08:33,722 --> 00:08:36,809 fake autograph...but it was an autographed Dr. J ball. 237 00:08:36,892 --> 00:08:38,102 And then I look on the ground, 238 00:08:38,185 --> 00:08:39,436 and there was a little boom box. 239 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,980 It wasn't no big one. 240 00:08:41,063 --> 00:08:43,107 And he's like, "I appreciate you, big man." 241 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:45,567 "No, I appreciate you, sir." 242 00:08:45,651 --> 00:08:47,319 That was the best Christmas ever. 243 00:08:48,904 --> 00:08:51,907 - I think what carries him is the love and the support 244 00:08:51,991 --> 00:08:53,617 that he always got from Phil. 245 00:08:53,701 --> 00:08:54,952 He didn't understand it at first. 246 00:08:55,035 --> 00:08:57,162 He said, "Well, why did I get so many whuppings?" 247 00:08:57,246 --> 00:08:58,455 [laughs] 248 00:08:58,539 --> 00:09:01,542 I said, "Because you needed to be disciplined. 249 00:09:01,625 --> 00:09:03,961 "You needed to be taught, and sometimes that was 250 00:09:04,044 --> 00:09:05,963 the only way to get your attention." 251 00:09:06,046 --> 00:09:10,009 But he had to realize that it was for his good. 252 00:09:10,092 --> 00:09:12,261 You don't always understand why. 253 00:09:12,344 --> 00:09:14,138 But you appreciate it when you get older, 254 00:09:14,221 --> 00:09:15,723 because had it gone a different way, 255 00:09:15,806 --> 00:09:18,892 he may not be the man that he is today. 256 00:09:20,602 --> 00:09:21,645 - I had three escapes. 257 00:09:21,729 --> 00:09:24,523 After I'd get whupped and get done cryin', 258 00:09:24,606 --> 00:09:26,483 it was like God gave me a certain remote. 259 00:09:26,567 --> 00:09:28,152 - You know those old TVs where you had to turn? 260 00:09:28,235 --> 00:09:29,820 - [mimics TV dial clicking] [TV dial clicks] 261 00:09:29,903 --> 00:09:30,779 - When it would go out, 262 00:09:30,863 --> 00:09:31,822 you'd have to hit it on the side? 263 00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:32,865 - [vocalizes] 264 00:09:32,948 --> 00:09:34,491 'Cause "Good Times" is coming on. 265 00:09:34,575 --> 00:09:35,617 - Hello. 266 00:09:35,701 --> 00:09:37,870 - After "Good Times," here comes "Sanford and Son." 267 00:09:37,953 --> 00:09:39,830 - Son, you worthless. 268 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:42,333 - After "Sanford and Son," here comes "The Jeffersons." 269 00:09:42,416 --> 00:09:44,209 [laughter] 270 00:09:44,293 --> 00:09:46,045 Every night. 271 00:09:46,128 --> 00:09:48,589 But then the movie that changed my life, 272 00:09:48,672 --> 00:09:51,133 called "Fish That Saved Pittsburgh." 273 00:09:51,216 --> 00:09:52,843 And the movie's about a young guy. 274 00:09:52,926 --> 00:09:56,096 He had to find Dr. J to get him to play in this game. 275 00:09:56,180 --> 00:09:58,932 And then my father knew the love I had for the movie. 276 00:09:59,016 --> 00:10:01,226 He said, "Son, if you pass the next grade, 277 00:10:01,310 --> 00:10:03,187 I'll take you to see Dr. J." 278 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:06,523 "Him? He's real?" 279 00:10:06,607 --> 00:10:08,484 So I'm busting my ass in school, boom, boom, boom. 280 00:10:08,567 --> 00:10:11,028 Not an A, B guy. Cs. 281 00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:12,738 And then one day, I'm sittin' in the room, 282 00:10:12,821 --> 00:10:14,198 and it was just me and him. 283 00:10:14,281 --> 00:10:16,200 He said, "Let's take a ride." [engine turning over] 284 00:10:16,283 --> 00:10:18,994 We get in our little Toyota Corolla. 285 00:10:19,078 --> 00:10:20,287 - ♪ Toyota ♪ 286 00:10:20,371 --> 00:10:22,247 - We pull up to Madison Square Garden, 287 00:10:22,331 --> 00:10:23,916 and we go way to the top. 288 00:10:23,999 --> 00:10:26,085 And then finally when I look down, 289 00:10:26,168 --> 00:10:27,378 Dr. J goes baseline. 290 00:10:27,461 --> 00:10:29,755 Dunks. Crowd go cra... [mimics crowd cheering] 291 00:10:29,838 --> 00:10:32,091 It was like some spirits just entered my body. 292 00:10:32,174 --> 00:10:34,051 [vocalizes] 293 00:10:34,134 --> 00:10:35,260 And I just immediately turned to my father. 294 00:10:35,344 --> 00:10:38,097 I said, "Sir, I know what I want to be when I grow up." 295 00:10:38,180 --> 00:10:40,599 In his words, "If you listen to me, 296 00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:43,102 I'll make you one of the best basketball players ever." 297 00:10:43,185 --> 00:10:44,770 [light music] 298 00:10:44,853 --> 00:10:47,314 - The pituitary gland begins to secrete 299 00:10:47,398 --> 00:10:49,316 the growth hormone. 300 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,194 The boy grows rapidly in height, weight, 301 00:10:52,277 --> 00:10:53,320 and strength. 302 00:10:53,404 --> 00:10:54,947 But the rapid growth of his muscles 303 00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:57,574 gives him a great need for activity. 304 00:10:57,658 --> 00:11:00,452 And this may express itself in many ways. 305 00:11:00,536 --> 00:11:03,414 - My grandfather was 7 foot before we even realized 306 00:11:03,497 --> 00:11:05,416 that that was something kind of special. 307 00:11:05,499 --> 00:11:07,793 And I didn't realize that I would ever have children 308 00:11:07,876 --> 00:11:11,463 that would grow up to be tall and handsome like that. 309 00:11:11,547 --> 00:11:14,633 Shaquille always grew a height above 310 00:11:14,716 --> 00:11:17,469 or maybe a few pounds above his peers. 311 00:11:17,553 --> 00:11:20,305 - I seen my mother knock a bus driver out one time. 312 00:11:20,389 --> 00:11:22,850 Five and under can ride free. 313 00:11:22,933 --> 00:11:25,269 And I'm three, four, but I'm a big kid. 314 00:11:25,352 --> 00:11:26,645 And the guy's tellin' my mama, 315 00:11:26,728 --> 00:11:29,231 "If he's five, he must be retarded or something." 316 00:11:29,314 --> 00:11:31,400 And my mom hit him with that bing, bing. 317 00:11:31,483 --> 00:11:32,443 - Well, I...[chuckles] 318 00:11:32,526 --> 00:11:34,445 I had to, because they'd make it seem 319 00:11:34,528 --> 00:11:36,780 like it was something really wrong with that. 320 00:11:36,864 --> 00:11:38,073 But we learned so much. 321 00:11:38,157 --> 00:11:40,742 And we let him know that it's okay. 322 00:11:40,826 --> 00:11:42,119 He didn't want to be different. 323 00:11:42,202 --> 00:11:44,371 He wanted to be the same height, 324 00:11:44,455 --> 00:11:46,457 the same size as all of his peers. 325 00:11:46,540 --> 00:11:49,793 But he wasn't, to he had to accept that fact, the reality. 326 00:11:49,877 --> 00:11:51,170 That was his life. 327 00:11:51,253 --> 00:11:53,839 - You either was gonna get the clown Shaquille, 328 00:11:53,922 --> 00:11:56,175 or you was gonna get the bully Shaquille. 329 00:11:56,258 --> 00:11:57,384 There wasn't no middle. 330 00:11:57,468 --> 00:11:58,969 See, being big, 331 00:11:59,052 --> 00:12:01,138 a lot of people thought I was a holdback. 332 00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:03,390 But actually, I skipped first grade, 333 00:12:03,474 --> 00:12:05,559 so...which means I was ahead. 334 00:12:05,642 --> 00:12:08,687 "You know, you're 11? 335 00:12:08,770 --> 00:12:10,522 "How are you 11 and you're 6'4"? 336 00:12:10,606 --> 00:12:12,399 You must be stupid or something." 337 00:12:12,483 --> 00:12:15,027 So now I'm like, "What'd you just say? 338 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:17,488 3:00. Outside in the back." 339 00:12:17,571 --> 00:12:19,698 But because of "Good Times," "Sanford and Son," 340 00:12:19,781 --> 00:12:22,784 "Jeffersons," I love to laugh. 341 00:12:22,868 --> 00:12:24,786 I didn't want to fight every day. 342 00:12:24,870 --> 00:12:27,039 Let's laugh. 343 00:12:27,122 --> 00:12:28,665 Let's joke around. 344 00:12:28,749 --> 00:12:31,168 Let's make spit wads and throw them at the teacher, 345 00:12:31,251 --> 00:12:32,961 and let's have fun. 346 00:12:34,004 --> 00:12:36,465 It was a way of being accepted. 347 00:12:36,548 --> 00:12:39,843 Didn't want to be looked at as the tall kid 348 00:12:39,927 --> 00:12:42,596 who, by the way, was terrible at sports. 349 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,890 - Who taught him how to play basketball? 350 00:12:44,973 --> 00:12:46,433 You know, it's hard to say. 351 00:12:46,517 --> 00:12:48,185 Phil taught him a lot about basketball, 352 00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:51,063 'cause he began coaching him when he was six years old. 353 00:12:51,146 --> 00:12:53,190 Now, I played basketball too, 354 00:12:53,273 --> 00:12:54,983 so I taught him a trick or two. 355 00:12:55,067 --> 00:12:57,152 [eerie music] 356 00:12:57,236 --> 00:12:58,904 - So when I first started to play, 357 00:12:58,987 --> 00:13:00,364 my father was like, "Aah." 358 00:13:00,447 --> 00:13:01,532 He's not like, "Here you go." 359 00:13:01,615 --> 00:13:03,408 Like, he...and I'd go like this. 360 00:13:03,492 --> 00:13:04,576 So I can remember one day, he said, 361 00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:07,871 "Put your hands on your side and don't move." 362 00:13:07,955 --> 00:13:09,206 And he threw it. I moved. "What the f... 363 00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:10,916 didn't I say don't move?" 364 00:13:10,999 --> 00:13:12,292 So now I've gotta put my hands on my side, 365 00:13:12,376 --> 00:13:14,753 and chest pass right to the face. 366 00:13:14,836 --> 00:13:16,463 Boom. 367 00:13:16,547 --> 00:13:18,924 "Look, see? How was that?" 368 00:13:20,175 --> 00:13:21,260 The point he was trying to make: 369 00:13:21,343 --> 00:13:22,761 stop being scared of the ball. 370 00:13:22,844 --> 00:13:24,388 'Cause even if you get hit, 371 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:25,597 this is how it's gonna feel. 372 00:13:25,681 --> 00:13:26,807 I ain't gonna kill you. 373 00:13:26,890 --> 00:13:29,476 So after that, my hands became impeccable. 374 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:31,937 Now it's time to put me on the team and coach me. 375 00:13:32,020 --> 00:13:33,730 I had two moves. 376 00:13:33,814 --> 00:13:35,732 Catch it, look left, look right, 377 00:13:35,816 --> 00:13:38,151 and dribble, off the glass. 378 00:13:38,235 --> 00:13:41,321 And I can remember a story, we were in Bayonne, New Jersey. 379 00:13:41,405 --> 00:13:42,239 I'm not really that good. 380 00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:43,615 I'm just bigger than everybody. 381 00:13:43,699 --> 00:13:46,785 And I can remember this guy storm on the basketball court, 382 00:13:46,868 --> 00:13:48,120 grab his son. 383 00:13:48,203 --> 00:13:49,162 This is what he says: 384 00:13:49,246 --> 00:13:51,665 "No way that motherfucker's ten years old. 385 00:13:51,748 --> 00:13:53,125 "If that motherfucker is ten years old, 386 00:13:53,208 --> 00:13:54,876 "he's gonna be one of the best NBA players 387 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,336 to ever fuckin' play the game." 388 00:13:56,420 --> 00:13:57,963 And he walks off. He takes his kid. 389 00:13:58,046 --> 00:13:59,423 They forfeit the game. 390 00:13:59,506 --> 00:14:01,550 And my dad's like, "See? See? 391 00:14:01,633 --> 00:14:04,094 If you listen to me, I'ma make you the best player ever." 392 00:14:06,388 --> 00:14:08,890 I went from the projects of Newark, New Jersey, 393 00:14:08,974 --> 00:14:11,643 to down South, Hinesville, Georgia. 394 00:14:11,727 --> 00:14:13,979 First time I seen a whole bunch of white people 395 00:14:14,062 --> 00:14:15,522 at the same time. 396 00:14:15,606 --> 00:14:17,858 First day of school, "What's up, my nigga?" 397 00:14:19,026 --> 00:14:20,652 "Is that white boy supposed to call me that? 398 00:14:20,736 --> 00:14:23,780 3:00. I'm fucking you up at 3:00." 399 00:14:23,864 --> 00:14:26,116 I gave him the beatdown of his life. 400 00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:27,784 He starts having a seizure. 401 00:14:27,868 --> 00:14:30,454 There was a guy who saw that, 402 00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:32,748 came, put the pen in his mouth, 403 00:14:32,831 --> 00:14:34,374 and saved this kid's life. 404 00:14:34,458 --> 00:14:37,210 Now, if he wasn't there, 405 00:14:37,294 --> 00:14:38,503 none of this would be. 406 00:14:38,587 --> 00:14:41,006 [sirens wailing] The cops come, 407 00:14:41,089 --> 00:14:42,716 talk to my dad, 408 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:44,384 and he spanks me again. 409 00:14:44,468 --> 00:14:46,053 He gives me the, "You know what could have happened 410 00:14:46,136 --> 00:14:47,512 if you would have killed this kid?" 411 00:14:47,596 --> 00:14:50,891 So now the bully side is dead. 412 00:14:50,974 --> 00:14:53,226 Dead. 413 00:14:53,310 --> 00:14:55,145 No way. 414 00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:57,230 'Cause it only takes one mistake. 415 00:14:57,314 --> 00:14:59,316 You can have a million dreams. 416 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:00,776 Only takes one mistake. 417 00:15:00,859 --> 00:15:02,486 [cell doors clang] At that point in my life, 418 00:15:02,569 --> 00:15:04,738 I was dreamin' about being a rapper. 419 00:15:04,821 --> 00:15:06,490 I was dreamin' about being an actor. 420 00:15:06,573 --> 00:15:08,784 I was dreamin' about being rich. 421 00:15:08,867 --> 00:15:10,952 I was dreamin' about being a basketball player. 422 00:15:11,036 --> 00:15:12,204 I was just dreamin'. 423 00:15:12,287 --> 00:15:14,373 And then if all that didn't work, guess what. 424 00:15:14,456 --> 00:15:15,874 I'm joining the army. 425 00:15:15,957 --> 00:15:19,086 'Cause you know why? This is a pretty good life. 426 00:15:19,169 --> 00:15:20,796 Always had plans. 427 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:23,298 I'm never going to the bottom, ever. 428 00:15:23,382 --> 00:15:24,716 'Cause I've seen the bottom. 429 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,051 We just came from the bottom. 430 00:15:26,134 --> 00:15:27,928 This guy Philip Harrison brought us somewhere. 431 00:15:28,011 --> 00:15:29,221 It ain't at the top. 432 00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:30,597 I ain't going back to the bottom. 433 00:15:30,681 --> 00:15:32,057 Now when I leave Georgia, 434 00:15:32,140 --> 00:15:33,892 we going to a place called Germany. 435 00:15:33,975 --> 00:15:35,894 [projector clicking] 436 00:15:35,977 --> 00:15:37,312 I'm like, "What's that?" 437 00:15:37,396 --> 00:15:39,106 "Get your ass on the plane!" 438 00:15:40,107 --> 00:15:41,358 Cargo plane. 439 00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:42,734 [plane engine humming] 440 00:15:42,818 --> 00:15:45,070 - There were rows and rows of military families 441 00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:47,989 going to these different stations in Germany, 442 00:15:48,073 --> 00:15:49,991 so we didn't feel so alone. 443 00:15:50,075 --> 00:15:53,036 And I can't say that we weren't ready, 444 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,038 but we were a little bit fearful 445 00:15:55,122 --> 00:15:57,874 because we had never been on an airplane before. 446 00:15:57,958 --> 00:16:00,961 And that is a long, long ride. 447 00:16:01,044 --> 00:16:03,296 - I'm like, "What the fuck is this?" 448 00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:05,257 Woods. 449 00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:07,092 Wildflecken is on a mountain. 450 00:16:07,175 --> 00:16:09,428 And the base is even smaller. 451 00:16:09,511 --> 00:16:12,264 And now I'm like, "Oh, my God." 452 00:16:12,347 --> 00:16:14,266 And I hate using this word "depression." 453 00:16:14,349 --> 00:16:16,101 It was bad. 454 00:16:16,184 --> 00:16:18,103 But it was a blessing for me, 455 00:16:18,186 --> 00:16:19,896 'cause now there's only one thing to do: 456 00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:22,232 play sports. 457 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:23,817 I go to the base every day. 458 00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:25,569 And there's no kids up there. 459 00:16:25,652 --> 00:16:27,404 I'm only there because my father runs the gym 460 00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:29,573 and I'm not sitting at the house all day. 461 00:16:29,656 --> 00:16:31,950 "Get your ass out there and play." 462 00:16:32,033 --> 00:16:34,411 So I play. I'm terrible. 463 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,955 People criticizin' me. I know it. 464 00:16:37,038 --> 00:16:39,207 My father comes in the house one day. 465 00:16:39,291 --> 00:16:40,417 He hits me in the back of the head 466 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:42,961 with a paper. [mimics whip cracking] 467 00:16:43,044 --> 00:16:46,173 Says, "College coach comes to Wildflecken 468 00:16:46,256 --> 00:16:47,674 to speak to the troops." 469 00:16:47,758 --> 00:16:48,967 "Get your ass up. 470 00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:50,343 See if you can get a scholarship." 471 00:16:50,427 --> 00:16:51,803 But before I left, I say, 472 00:16:51,887 --> 00:16:53,805 "I'm talkin' to a college coach. 473 00:16:53,889 --> 00:16:55,140 Let me sound smart." 474 00:16:55,223 --> 00:16:57,225 So I... [pages fluttering] 475 00:16:58,393 --> 00:16:59,811 Extremities. 476 00:17:00,562 --> 00:17:04,065 Extrem...extrem...extremities. 477 00:17:05,692 --> 00:17:06,943 - All right, now, no punches were thrown there. 478 00:17:07,027 --> 00:17:08,904 - Lookit, you see Dale Brown push Groves? 479 00:17:08,987 --> 00:17:09,946 And then Gro... 480 00:17:10,030 --> 00:17:10,989 - It was really by accident 481 00:17:11,072 --> 00:17:12,157 when I first met him 482 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,658 in a place called Wildflecken 483 00:17:13,742 --> 00:17:14,826 up in the mountains. 484 00:17:14,910 --> 00:17:16,912 I was at the gym where I was putting on the clinic. 485 00:17:16,995 --> 00:17:19,456 And I'm packing my bag, and I get a tap on the shoulder. 486 00:17:19,539 --> 00:17:21,333 And I turn around, and... 487 00:17:21,416 --> 00:17:24,336 here's this giant of a guy, kind of shy. 488 00:17:24,419 --> 00:17:25,504 "Coach Brown," he said, 489 00:17:25,587 --> 00:17:27,631 I'll be trying out for the team." 490 00:17:27,714 --> 00:17:30,300 And he said, "I can't dunk a ball. 491 00:17:30,383 --> 00:17:31,760 "And I run up and down the court 492 00:17:31,843 --> 00:17:33,512 about three, four times..." 493 00:17:33,595 --> 00:17:35,013 both: "And my lower extremities..." 494 00:17:35,096 --> 00:17:36,848 - "Tire." 495 00:17:36,932 --> 00:17:38,016 I say, "Lower extremities?" 496 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:39,810 I didn't say that to him, but I'm thinking, 497 00:17:39,893 --> 00:17:41,019 "He's a pretty smart guy." 498 00:17:41,102 --> 00:17:44,648 He said, "Can you show me some exercises to improve it?" 499 00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:46,316 "What I'll do, Soldier, when I get back to Baton Rouge 500 00:17:46,399 --> 00:17:47,651 is, I'll send you the weight training program." 501 00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:49,653 I said, "How long you been in service?" 502 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:52,489 And he goes like this, and he goes, "Coach Brown, 503 00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:55,033 I'm only 13 years old." 504 00:17:55,116 --> 00:17:56,493 I said, "What?" 505 00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:58,161 Being the Rhodes Scholar I am, 506 00:17:58,245 --> 00:18:01,623 my next question was, "Where's your dad?" 507 00:18:01,706 --> 00:18:02,666 He said, "He's in the sauna." 508 00:18:02,749 --> 00:18:04,584 I said, "I'd like to meet him." 509 00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:06,878 So we're heading to the sauna. 510 00:18:06,962 --> 00:18:08,880 I was just putting my hand on the door 511 00:18:08,964 --> 00:18:10,340 and the door burst open. 512 00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:12,676 And out, coming, sweating profusely, 513 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:14,386 military-green towel around him... 514 00:18:14,469 --> 00:18:16,263 "That's my dad. That's my dad." 515 00:18:16,346 --> 00:18:18,098 This is important. 516 00:18:18,181 --> 00:18:20,058 I handed him my business card, and I said, 517 00:18:20,141 --> 00:18:22,602 "Sergeant Harrison," I said, "my name's Dale Brown. 518 00:18:22,686 --> 00:18:24,521 I'm the head basketball coach at LSU." 519 00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:28,191 And almost with disdain, "Excuse me, Coach Brown." 520 00:18:28,275 --> 00:18:30,902 He says, "This is all fine and good, basketball." 521 00:18:30,986 --> 00:18:33,196 But he said, "I think it's time," 522 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,532 he said, "our children get degrees 523 00:18:35,615 --> 00:18:36,950 "so they can be generals in the army 524 00:18:37,033 --> 00:18:38,243 "instead of a sergeant. 525 00:18:38,326 --> 00:18:39,744 "They can be presidents of corporations 526 00:18:39,828 --> 00:18:41,037 "instead of janitors. 527 00:18:41,121 --> 00:18:43,707 "They can be head coaches instead of assistant coaches 528 00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:45,625 "running all over the country looking for players. 529 00:18:45,709 --> 00:18:47,878 "If you're interested in my son's intellect, 530 00:18:47,961 --> 00:18:49,671 we might talk someday." 531 00:18:49,754 --> 00:18:51,256 - Sends me the program. 532 00:18:51,339 --> 00:18:52,924 So I try everything. 533 00:18:53,008 --> 00:18:55,093 And I try out for the team again, 534 00:18:55,177 --> 00:18:56,303 but I don't make it. 535 00:18:56,386 --> 00:18:58,430 So I write him a tearful letter. 536 00:18:58,513 --> 00:19:02,100 "Coach, I'm sorry. It didn't work." 537 00:19:02,183 --> 00:19:03,226 - "I did everything..." 538 00:19:03,310 --> 00:19:04,603 - "Thank you for the help." - "You told me to do..." 539 00:19:04,686 --> 00:19:05,729 - "I appreciate it." - "And my high school coach 540 00:19:05,812 --> 00:19:07,314 "cut me off the team. 541 00:19:07,397 --> 00:19:10,066 "He told me I'm too slow, I'm too clumsy, 542 00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:11,401 "I have too big of feet. 543 00:19:11,484 --> 00:19:13,778 "I will never be a basketball player. 544 00:19:13,862 --> 00:19:15,614 Why don't I be a goalie in soccer?" 545 00:19:15,697 --> 00:19:17,407 So I sat behind my desk and I thought, 546 00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:19,910 "Now, what kind of a profound statement 547 00:19:19,993 --> 00:19:22,746 am I gonna make to a 13-year-old child?" 548 00:19:22,829 --> 00:19:23,914 "Dear Shaquille, 549 00:19:23,997 --> 00:19:25,749 "I'm so sorry what happened to you. 550 00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:29,002 "But I found out in my life when I heard people whispering, 551 00:19:29,085 --> 00:19:31,963 "'He has no father. His mother's on welfare. 552 00:19:32,047 --> 00:19:33,173 "'He lives in a one-room apartment. 553 00:19:33,256 --> 00:19:34,966 He won't be successful,' 554 00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:39,346 "if you always sincerely try to do your very best... 555 00:19:39,429 --> 00:19:43,099 "and only you will know that... and you never give up 556 00:19:43,183 --> 00:19:44,976 "under any conditions, 557 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:48,647 sooner or later, God'll take care of everything else." 558 00:19:48,730 --> 00:19:51,566 - That's why I wanted to go to LSU. 559 00:19:51,650 --> 00:19:55,946 Because before I became this character known as "Shaq," 560 00:19:56,029 --> 00:19:57,364 nobody wanted me. 561 00:19:57,447 --> 00:20:01,076 But Dale Brown looked at me. He chose me. 562 00:20:01,159 --> 00:20:02,619 He put his hand around my shoulders 563 00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:05,330 and saw something in me that I didn't see. 564 00:20:05,413 --> 00:20:07,374 ♪ ♪ 565 00:20:07,457 --> 00:20:09,459 - So I was in my office one afternoon, 566 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:11,044 and a tall, skinny kid walked in. 567 00:20:11,127 --> 00:20:12,671 And I knew who it was, 568 00:20:12,754 --> 00:20:15,006 but I had never really introduced myself to him. 569 00:20:15,090 --> 00:20:17,342 And he said, "Coach, I want to try out 570 00:20:17,425 --> 00:20:18,385 for the basketball team." 571 00:20:18,468 --> 00:20:20,804 He said, "If you promise not to cut me, 572 00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:23,056 I promise you won't regret it." 573 00:20:23,139 --> 00:20:25,976 And I said, "Okay, we'll see how things go." 574 00:20:26,059 --> 00:20:28,311 Shaquille kind of cut his teeth 575 00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:29,896 playing down on the base gym 576 00:20:29,980 --> 00:20:32,816 against 19-, 20-, 21-year-old soldiers. 577 00:20:32,899 --> 00:20:35,360 His dad, Sergeant Harrison, would take him down, 578 00:20:35,443 --> 00:20:36,653 drop him off. 579 00:20:36,736 --> 00:20:38,822 Man, I tell you what, I know at that time 580 00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:41,032 I didn't understand that guy. 581 00:20:41,116 --> 00:20:43,451 He was so hard on Shaquille. He was so... 582 00:20:43,535 --> 00:20:45,161 I think there were times Shaquille was afraid of him 583 00:20:45,245 --> 00:20:46,663 and rightfully so. 584 00:20:46,746 --> 00:20:48,039 I'm not a parent. I don't have kids. 585 00:20:48,123 --> 00:20:50,000 It's not my place to say 586 00:20:50,083 --> 00:20:52,335 whether it was too hard or too soft or... 587 00:20:52,419 --> 00:20:54,838 I think the results speak for themselves. 588 00:20:54,921 --> 00:20:56,881 Let's just say this, 589 00:20:56,965 --> 00:20:59,259 Sarge had one speed: 11. 590 00:21:01,011 --> 00:21:02,554 When I first started with him, 591 00:21:02,637 --> 00:21:05,223 Shaquille's brain and his body 592 00:21:05,306 --> 00:21:07,350 is still catching up with his size. 593 00:21:07,434 --> 00:21:09,561 And there were times when he would run 594 00:21:09,644 --> 00:21:12,439 and his bones were going faster than his muscles. 595 00:21:12,522 --> 00:21:14,566 And he...it was very painful for him to run. 596 00:21:14,649 --> 00:21:17,235 And sometimes we'd run conditioning drills. 597 00:21:17,318 --> 00:21:19,237 He would cry. [indistinct yelling] 598 00:21:19,321 --> 00:21:22,032 - I had something called Osgood-Schlatter's. 599 00:21:22,115 --> 00:21:23,074 I was growing too fast, 600 00:21:23,158 --> 00:21:25,577 and my body and my knees didn't keep up. 601 00:21:25,660 --> 00:21:26,870 - And I'd pull him aside and say, 602 00:21:26,953 --> 00:21:28,329 "Hey, why don't you sit this one out?" 603 00:21:28,413 --> 00:21:29,414 He said, "No, Coach. 604 00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:31,666 I'll do what everybody else does." 605 00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:34,127 As a sophomore playing on a team 606 00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:37,005 laden with seniors and a couple of juniors, 607 00:21:37,088 --> 00:21:39,424 he kind of got picked on a little bit. 608 00:21:39,507 --> 00:21:41,259 We were in a game up in Osterholz, 609 00:21:41,342 --> 00:21:43,386 which is way up in northern Germany. 610 00:21:43,470 --> 00:21:45,096 He was open inside, 611 00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:46,806 and they were taking shots 612 00:21:46,890 --> 00:21:49,017 rather than kicking it down inside to him. 613 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:50,310 So I told them at halftime, 614 00:21:50,393 --> 00:21:52,437 "If you guys don't start getting the ball inside to him, 615 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,607 I'ma pull both you guys out and you're gonna sit." 616 00:21:55,690 --> 00:21:59,027 I think that one of the things that he appreciates 617 00:21:59,110 --> 00:22:00,570 is that I stood up for him. 618 00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:04,074 Playing high school ball in Europe, 619 00:22:04,157 --> 00:22:09,329 our average road trip was between four and five hours. 620 00:22:09,412 --> 00:22:10,914 When I think about the relationship 621 00:22:10,997 --> 00:22:12,582 that I've had with Shaquille, 622 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:16,419 it was all forged on a bus to nowhere 623 00:22:16,503 --> 00:22:19,172 and talking about what young kids 624 00:22:19,255 --> 00:22:21,508 hoped for and dreamed for, 625 00:22:21,591 --> 00:22:25,678 and, "How come our moms and dads are so strict on us?" 626 00:22:25,762 --> 00:22:28,306 I was fortunate to be able, maybe, to give him 627 00:22:28,389 --> 00:22:31,309 some perspective, you know, during that time in his life 628 00:22:31,392 --> 00:22:33,978 when he was kind of forming his own opinion 629 00:22:34,062 --> 00:22:36,648 about what he thought about the world. 630 00:22:36,731 --> 00:22:37,941 So at the end of the year, 631 00:22:38,024 --> 00:22:41,069 we made it to the small schools tournament. 632 00:22:41,152 --> 00:22:43,571 Unfortunately, Shaquille's father, 633 00:22:43,655 --> 00:22:47,951 he was destined to be transferred back to the States. 634 00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:50,120 So we got a call that he was gonna be leaving. 635 00:22:50,203 --> 00:22:51,496 We looked at the calendar. 636 00:22:51,579 --> 00:22:53,623 We're not gonna have him for the Elite Eight. 637 00:22:53,706 --> 00:22:54,958 He played in those last two games. 638 00:22:55,041 --> 00:22:57,085 He played lights out. 639 00:22:57,168 --> 00:22:58,878 We're done, we're in the locker room, 640 00:22:58,962 --> 00:23:00,547 I'm talking to the team, 641 00:23:00,630 --> 00:23:03,508 and Shaquille was leaning over the counter to the sinks. 642 00:23:03,591 --> 00:23:05,343 And I noticed the sinks were wet, and I thought, 643 00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:06,678 "Why is he washing his hands? 644 00:23:06,761 --> 00:23:08,513 "We...I mean, I guess we just played a game. 645 00:23:08,596 --> 00:23:09,889 I don't know." 646 00:23:09,973 --> 00:23:13,184 And I quickly realized that it wasn't water. 647 00:23:13,268 --> 00:23:15,395 He was crying. 648 00:23:15,478 --> 00:23:19,357 And I knew in that moment 649 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,193 how difficult it was gonna be... 650 00:23:22,277 --> 00:23:23,486 [clears throat] 651 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:24,779 I knew how difficult it was gonna be 652 00:23:24,863 --> 00:23:26,489 for him to leave us. 653 00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:31,327 And he turned to me, and he hugged me. 654 00:23:31,411 --> 00:23:33,705 And he said, "Coach, I love you." 655 00:23:33,788 --> 00:23:35,748 And I said, "I love you too, big guy." 656 00:23:36,249 --> 00:23:37,917 That's the last time I saw him 657 00:23:38,001 --> 00:23:40,670 until he was playing for Coach Brown. 658 00:23:41,796 --> 00:23:44,174 - After my sophomore year, we leave. 659 00:23:44,257 --> 00:23:46,718 Back in Jersey and seeing family... 660 00:23:46,801 --> 00:23:49,095 "What's happening?" Boom, boom. Lovin' and huggin'. 661 00:23:49,179 --> 00:23:50,847 We got the moving thing on top of the car. 662 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,390 I'm like, "Yo, man, where we going?" 663 00:23:52,473 --> 00:23:54,225 "Shut your ass up and get in the car." 664 00:23:54,309 --> 00:23:55,226 And we get in the car. 665 00:23:55,310 --> 00:23:58,313 And we drivin' and we drivin'. 666 00:23:58,396 --> 00:24:00,815 Now I'm starting to see stuff I ain't seen in a while...cows. 667 00:24:00,899 --> 00:24:01,983 I'm like... 668 00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:04,569 And then I see, "Welcome to Texas." 669 00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:06,863 I'm like, "Texas?" 670 00:24:06,946 --> 00:24:09,532 Cowboys? 671 00:24:09,616 --> 00:24:12,035 We moved to San Antonio, Texas. 672 00:24:12,118 --> 00:24:13,411 We arrive at the school. 673 00:24:13,494 --> 00:24:15,830 And I'm talking to the principal, 674 00:24:15,914 --> 00:24:18,082 and I see this little kid walking down the hall, 675 00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:20,376 and he comes in, and, "This is Joe Cavallaro. 676 00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:22,295 He's gonna show you around." 677 00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:24,756 - I see Sergeant Harrison and Shaquille standing there. 678 00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:26,049 Obviously a basketball player, 679 00:24:26,132 --> 00:24:27,425 so about time we get some good talent 680 00:24:27,508 --> 00:24:28,635 for the basketball team. 681 00:24:28,718 --> 00:24:30,053 - He showed me around. 682 00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:31,179 And, "What about the basketball team?" 683 00:24:31,262 --> 00:24:32,514 "We ain't really that good." 684 00:24:32,597 --> 00:24:34,432 "But I want to meet some of the players." 685 00:24:34,515 --> 00:24:37,936 - Our graduating class in 1989 was 79 people. 686 00:24:38,019 --> 00:24:39,562 You couldn't go to the school unless your parents 687 00:24:39,646 --> 00:24:40,772 were in the military 688 00:24:40,855 --> 00:24:43,608 or if you parents worked at that school. 689 00:24:43,691 --> 00:24:45,777 - So because there's not a lot of kids, 690 00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:47,237 I make the team. 691 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,571 I'm a starter. 692 00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:51,532 - The high school years was something very special 693 00:24:51,616 --> 00:24:54,077 because we were just coming from Germany. 694 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,079 And I remember the coach said that, 695 00:24:56,162 --> 00:24:59,916 "I don't know if he can walk and chew gum at the same time." 696 00:24:59,999 --> 00:25:02,752 We told him, "You may have to just show them. 697 00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:05,672 Don't even tell them how good you know you are." 698 00:25:05,755 --> 00:25:07,340 - Our team became immediately dominant 699 00:25:07,423 --> 00:25:08,508 his junior year. 700 00:25:08,591 --> 00:25:10,093 - He began to get exposure 701 00:25:10,176 --> 00:25:12,095 all around the state of Texas. 702 00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:13,638 - My first article was 703 00:25:13,721 --> 00:25:15,890 "Cole's O'Neal 'best in the U.S.'" 704 00:25:15,974 --> 00:25:18,309 So 35-1, having a good year. 705 00:25:18,393 --> 00:25:21,437 Semifinals going into the finals. 706 00:25:21,521 --> 00:25:22,772 Down by one. 707 00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:24,482 Shaquille O'Neal gets fouled, 708 00:25:24,565 --> 00:25:26,693 goes to the line, misses. 709 00:25:26,776 --> 00:25:29,946 [indistinct chatter] 710 00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:32,240 - We got beat in the playoffs 711 00:25:32,323 --> 00:25:34,450 because he missed free throws. 712 00:25:34,534 --> 00:25:37,287 That stuck with him and gave him the motivation 713 00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:38,621 to do what he did his senior year, 714 00:25:38,705 --> 00:25:40,581 which was absolutely amazing. 715 00:25:40,665 --> 00:25:43,126 [indistinct chatter] [laughs] 716 00:25:43,209 --> 00:25:44,627 [rhythmic clapping] 717 00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:46,212 cheerleaders: All right, Shaquille! 718 00:25:46,296 --> 00:25:47,672 - Senior in high school. 719 00:25:47,755 --> 00:25:49,340 Magic Johnson was my guy. 720 00:25:49,424 --> 00:25:51,301 So I'm smooth with the ball. 721 00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:52,343 Look-away pass. 722 00:25:52,427 --> 00:25:54,929 I cross this dude up at half-court, ooh, ooh. 723 00:25:55,013 --> 00:25:57,682 I go to give a nasty finger roll, and I miss. 724 00:25:57,765 --> 00:25:59,684 All of a sudden, I see this big Black dude 725 00:25:59,767 --> 00:26:01,644 walking on the court in his military fatigues. 726 00:26:01,728 --> 00:26:03,604 It's my father, the Sarge. 727 00:26:03,688 --> 00:26:05,356 He said, "Call a time-out." 728 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,733 "Yes, sir." 729 00:26:06,816 --> 00:26:07,900 He said, "What you doing?" 730 00:26:07,984 --> 00:26:09,319 "Man, I'm just workin' on my Magic"... 731 00:26:09,402 --> 00:26:10,486 [mimics whip cracking] [TV dial clicks] 732 00:26:10,570 --> 00:26:11,654 "Fuck that." 733 00:26:13,114 --> 00:26:15,074 [gears rumbling] 734 00:26:15,158 --> 00:26:16,326 "Be Shaquille O'Neal." 735 00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:20,830 "Dunk it every fucking time." 736 00:26:22,206 --> 00:26:23,249 [thunder booming] 737 00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:25,168 And the boys knew what happened. 738 00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:27,045 They knew the Sarge done touched me up. 739 00:26:27,128 --> 00:26:28,504 - And I looked at him, 740 00:26:28,588 --> 00:26:29,589 and he was like, 741 00:26:29,672 --> 00:26:31,341 "Give me the goddamn ball." 742 00:26:31,424 --> 00:26:33,009 That's all you had to say, bro. 743 00:26:33,468 --> 00:26:35,386 - When I dunked, I was so fuckin' mad, 744 00:26:35,470 --> 00:26:37,597 I wanted to break the rim off for him. 745 00:26:38,264 --> 00:26:39,307 [thud] 746 00:26:39,390 --> 00:26:40,558 "Oh, this is what you want me to do?" 747 00:26:40,641 --> 00:26:42,393 [grunting] 748 00:26:42,477 --> 00:26:43,603 "This good enough for you, Sarge?" 749 00:26:43,686 --> 00:26:45,855 [grunting] 750 00:26:45,938 --> 00:26:47,357 Everybody's scared. Terrified. 751 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,901 [people screaming] I'ma kill your ass out here. 752 00:26:49,984 --> 00:26:51,027 - Monster. - [growls] 753 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:52,695 - That's the monster shit, bro. 754 00:26:52,779 --> 00:26:54,280 - He's 7 feet tall, 755 00:26:54,364 --> 00:26:55,865 one of the top five high school players 756 00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:59,160 in the country, and he just turned 17. 757 00:26:59,243 --> 00:27:03,039 Shaquille O'Neal, averaging 47 points a game 758 00:27:03,122 --> 00:27:04,874 in the playoffs. 759 00:27:04,957 --> 00:27:06,250 - He started going up against these kids 760 00:27:06,334 --> 00:27:07,794 and just doing what he wanted to. 761 00:27:09,003 --> 00:27:12,673 We beat a team 121-35. 762 00:27:13,383 --> 00:27:15,301 By the end of the game, the rims were like this... 763 00:27:16,177 --> 00:27:18,638 [crowd cheering, ball thudding] 764 00:27:18,721 --> 00:27:21,724 [dramatic music] 765 00:27:21,808 --> 00:27:23,434 ♪ ♪ 766 00:27:23,518 --> 00:27:25,978 [crowd yelling] 767 00:27:27,688 --> 00:27:29,607 Sergeant Harrison saw it before anybody. 768 00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:31,484 - [mimics whip cracking] 769 00:27:31,567 --> 00:27:33,027 So I'm in the house one day, 770 00:27:33,111 --> 00:27:35,988 and my father comes in and hits me with a paper again. 771 00:27:36,072 --> 00:27:37,198 "Look at this motherfucker." 772 00:27:37,281 --> 00:27:38,908 - The contact with the left hand. 773 00:27:38,991 --> 00:27:40,576 - There was a guy named Jon Koncak. 774 00:27:40,660 --> 00:27:42,537 - Takes it to the basket and rattles it home. 775 00:27:42,620 --> 00:27:44,831 - He signed $15 million for three. 776 00:27:44,914 --> 00:27:46,749 "Get your shit. We gonna watch him play." 777 00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:48,084 - ♪ Toyota ♪ 778 00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:50,002 - And I'm watching this guy play, and I'm like, 779 00:27:50,086 --> 00:27:53,214 "Yo, if he gettin' $15 million I can get $8 million." 780 00:27:53,297 --> 00:27:56,426 So now I got to stay focused. Now I'm close. 781 00:27:56,509 --> 00:27:57,802 This article right here that says 782 00:27:57,885 --> 00:27:59,804 "Cole's O'Neal 'best in the U.S.'" 783 00:27:59,887 --> 00:28:00,972 says that I'm close. 784 00:28:01,055 --> 00:28:02,306 [upbeat music] 785 00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:04,475 - In today's classic, Shaquille O'Neal, 786 00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,645 a 6'11" giant from San Antonio, 787 00:28:07,728 --> 00:28:10,022 will lead the West against the East. 788 00:28:10,106 --> 00:28:13,568 It's the 12th annual McDonald's All-American Game. 789 00:28:13,651 --> 00:28:14,902 ♪ ♪ 790 00:28:14,986 --> 00:28:15,903 - So growing up in my high school, 791 00:28:15,987 --> 00:28:17,113 I loved Dick Vitale. 792 00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:19,949 - This is excitement. This is absolutely bedlam. 793 00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:21,617 - Loved him. 794 00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:23,828 And I get to the McDonald's game, 795 00:28:23,911 --> 00:28:25,663 and I was like, "Hello, Mr. Vitale." 796 00:28:25,746 --> 00:28:29,834 And Mr. Vitale says, "And you are?" 797 00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:32,003 I said, "My name's Shaquille O'Neal." 798 00:28:32,086 --> 00:28:33,337 "Oh, you the big guy from Texas 799 00:28:33,421 --> 00:28:35,339 that played against those small kids." 800 00:28:35,423 --> 00:28:36,716 Oh, my God. 801 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:38,843 Now I'm fuckin' pissed. 802 00:28:38,926 --> 00:28:39,844 My mom always used to say, 803 00:28:39,927 --> 00:28:41,888 and it didn't make sense till that day, 804 00:28:41,971 --> 00:28:44,348 "Baby, make 'em remember your name." 805 00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:45,683 I already know what I'ma do. 806 00:28:45,766 --> 00:28:48,144 First time I touch the ball, I'm taking it coast-to-coast. 807 00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:50,980 So I blocked Conrad McRae's shot. 808 00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:52,982 - There's Shaquille with another rejection. 809 00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:54,025 - Dribble. 810 00:28:54,108 --> 00:28:55,443 Take off on the free throw line. 811 00:28:55,526 --> 00:28:57,278 Dunk it. Boom. 812 00:28:57,361 --> 00:28:59,155 And then Dick Vitale screamed, "Oh, my God." 813 00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:00,907 And I'm looking like, "Oh." - I can't believe it! 814 00:29:00,990 --> 00:29:02,950 I can't believe it! That's a seven-footer! 815 00:29:03,034 --> 00:29:04,494 Are you serious? 816 00:29:04,577 --> 00:29:06,496 - I'll tell you one thing, this guy can play. 817 00:29:06,579 --> 00:29:09,248 Shaquille O'Neal will be a star at LSU. 818 00:29:09,332 --> 00:29:12,210 [percussive music] 819 00:29:12,293 --> 00:29:15,004 ♪ ♪ 820 00:29:15,087 --> 00:29:17,089 - Now when I go to Baton Rouge, 821 00:29:17,173 --> 00:29:19,008 it's back to the bottom, brother. 822 00:29:19,091 --> 00:29:20,259 They got Chris Jackson 823 00:29:20,343 --> 00:29:21,302 and Stanley Roberts. 824 00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:22,762 We don't know who you are. 825 00:29:22,845 --> 00:29:24,388 - I remember him asking 826 00:29:24,472 --> 00:29:26,557 who would start and all that business. 827 00:29:26,641 --> 00:29:27,934 And I told him right up front, but I said, 828 00:29:28,017 --> 00:29:31,270 "Shaquille, I have never told a player he would start. 829 00:29:31,354 --> 00:29:33,606 That has to occur on the court. 830 00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:34,565 - You know, I go from averaging 831 00:29:34,649 --> 00:29:36,817 37 points to 6 points. 832 00:29:36,901 --> 00:29:39,195 So my whole freshman year, I'm playing the game 833 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,072 and I'm turning it over; I'm fumbling. 834 00:29:41,155 --> 00:29:43,032 It's back to, "You can't play." 835 00:29:43,115 --> 00:29:44,700 But, you know, my father always told me, 836 00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:46,911 "If you stay consistent at something, 837 00:29:46,994 --> 00:29:49,580 whatever you're looking to accomplish, it will happen." 838 00:29:49,664 --> 00:29:52,833 - I don't think I've ever seen a player consistently 839 00:29:52,917 --> 00:29:55,461 get better and better and better and better. 840 00:29:55,545 --> 00:29:57,421 There was no question, 841 00:29:57,505 --> 00:30:00,466 not one doubt in my mind, he was gonna be a superstar. 842 00:30:01,175 --> 00:30:03,636 - Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, aka Chris Jackson, 843 00:30:03,719 --> 00:30:06,806 doesn't know this, but I used to follow him. 844 00:30:06,889 --> 00:30:08,307 I knew he used to work out at night, 845 00:30:08,391 --> 00:30:10,268 but nobody was allowed to go in there. 846 00:30:10,351 --> 00:30:11,769 So I broke in there. 847 00:30:11,852 --> 00:30:13,813 And he was talking to himself. "Shoot." 848 00:30:13,896 --> 00:30:15,815 And it seemed like he wasn't missing. 849 00:30:15,898 --> 00:30:18,276 So I'm like, "Okay, if this what he's doing 850 00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:20,236 to be great, I'ma do it." 851 00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:21,279 "Oh, Patrick, you want to try to guard Shaquille?" 852 00:30:21,362 --> 00:30:23,072 "Oh, Shaquille"... like, and I would... 853 00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:25,241 I was trying to imagine that. 854 00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:27,118 So guess what happened my sophomore year. 855 00:30:27,618 --> 00:30:29,954 Mr. Stanley Roberts flunks out. 856 00:30:30,997 --> 00:30:32,123 Here's my shot. 857 00:30:33,207 --> 00:30:34,584 And I come in first time I got the ball 858 00:30:34,667 --> 00:30:35,793 and dunked it. 859 00:30:35,876 --> 00:30:37,295 [crowd cheering] 860 00:30:37,378 --> 00:30:38,629 [whistle blows] I'm like... 861 00:30:38,713 --> 00:30:41,007 - Flips it to O'Neal and slams it in. 862 00:30:41,090 --> 00:30:42,425 - Shaquille, and then I'm like... 863 00:30:42,508 --> 00:30:44,677 - I'd say Shaq took it to the rack. 864 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,970 - Like, man, this is what I've been dreaming about 865 00:30:46,053 --> 00:30:46,971 all my life. 866 00:30:47,054 --> 00:30:49,348 - 7'1", nearly 300 pounds, 867 00:30:49,432 --> 00:30:51,976 yet only weeks beyond his 19th birthday, 868 00:30:52,059 --> 00:30:54,812 LSU sophomore Shaquille O'Neal is already being heralded 869 00:30:54,895 --> 00:30:57,565 as one of the top centers in the universe. 870 00:30:57,648 --> 00:31:00,693 - My sophomore year, I led the conference in everything. 871 00:31:00,776 --> 00:31:03,112 And I always knew from a youngster, 872 00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:05,323 take advantage of opportunities. 873 00:31:05,406 --> 00:31:07,283 - Great steal. O'Neal, slam dunk! 874 00:31:07,366 --> 00:31:08,826 Oh, my goodness. 875 00:31:08,909 --> 00:31:11,287 - Sophomore year, I wanted to go pro. 876 00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:13,122 My father said, "We've been broke 877 00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:14,457 "17 years of your life. 878 00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:16,000 We can be broke for 18." 879 00:31:16,083 --> 00:31:18,169 - When he first went to school, everything was 880 00:31:18,252 --> 00:31:19,795 go to school, get education. 881 00:31:19,879 --> 00:31:20,963 Now that Shaquille's 882 00:31:21,047 --> 00:31:22,840 a fairly good basketball player, 883 00:31:22,923 --> 00:31:23,841 everybody's now saying, 884 00:31:23,924 --> 00:31:26,594 "Dump school and go to the NBA." 885 00:31:26,677 --> 00:31:29,847 - He probably knew, too, that he was that good. 886 00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:32,183 And I remember sitting him down 887 00:31:32,266 --> 00:31:35,019 and said, "It's gonna be different from now on." 888 00:31:35,102 --> 00:31:36,562 - Why? I don't understand that. 889 00:31:36,646 --> 00:31:38,564 'Cause of the money? Money isn't everything. 890 00:31:38,648 --> 00:31:40,650 'Cause of the publicity? That's not everything. 891 00:31:40,733 --> 00:31:42,193 - I know it's gonna be an argument, 892 00:31:42,276 --> 00:31:43,569 'cause he's like, "Nope. 893 00:31:43,653 --> 00:31:45,863 "You ain't doing shit until you get a degree. 894 00:31:45,946 --> 00:31:47,323 "I don't give a shit what you say. 895 00:31:47,406 --> 00:31:48,824 "I don't care how much money they're offering you. 896 00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:50,159 You ain't doing nothing." 897 00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:52,828 - If he goes the NBA and can't do what they expect him to do, 898 00:31:52,912 --> 00:31:53,996 where's he gonna be at? 899 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,248 - I go...I said, "I want to go pro." 900 00:31:56,332 --> 00:31:57,541 He's going, "Motherfucker, 901 00:31:57,625 --> 00:31:58,751 "da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. 902 00:31:58,834 --> 00:32:00,044 Get out of my face!" 903 00:32:00,127 --> 00:32:02,213 So my mom said, "Come with me, baby." 904 00:32:02,296 --> 00:32:04,799 And my mom said, "Balance this checkbook." 905 00:32:04,882 --> 00:32:07,218 I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. 906 00:32:07,301 --> 00:32:08,719 Mom said, "You not ready, baby." 907 00:32:08,803 --> 00:32:10,596 - He decided that he wanted to go back to school 908 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,640 for at least another year or so. 909 00:32:12,723 --> 00:32:15,434 - "This conversation over." "Yes, ma'am." 910 00:32:17,186 --> 00:32:19,063 - At that time, I made it my point 911 00:32:19,146 --> 00:32:20,064 just to help him. 912 00:32:20,147 --> 00:32:22,024 If he needed me, I was there. 913 00:32:22,108 --> 00:32:25,027 He had that dream, "I'm gonna be professional one day." 914 00:32:25,111 --> 00:32:28,531 We would not pay bills and get in the car on a Friday 915 00:32:28,614 --> 00:32:31,075 and drive to Louisiana 916 00:32:31,158 --> 00:32:32,702 just to spend the weekend with him 917 00:32:32,785 --> 00:32:36,539 so that we could be with him and keep him encouraged. 918 00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:38,874 "You a big man. You stand tall. 919 00:32:38,958 --> 00:32:40,376 You don't let anybody move you." 920 00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:42,753 - And it's a 10-point lead. 921 00:32:42,837 --> 00:32:45,089 [indistinct chatter] 922 00:32:45,172 --> 00:32:47,466 One-handed catch by Shaquille. 923 00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:48,634 Got his own rebound. [whistle blows] 924 00:32:48,718 --> 00:32:50,261 And that'll count. 925 00:32:50,344 --> 00:32:53,013 And a foul as O'Neal will step to the free throw line. 926 00:32:53,097 --> 00:32:54,765 - People had to compete against me 927 00:32:54,849 --> 00:32:56,517 because of my size. 928 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,602 They felt they had to get super physical. 929 00:32:58,686 --> 00:33:01,313 Well, guess what. I got ass-whuppings every day. 930 00:33:01,397 --> 00:33:02,481 You're not hurting me. 931 00:33:02,565 --> 00:33:03,733 It's just making me more angry. 932 00:33:03,816 --> 00:33:05,234 [whistle blows] - And a foul. 933 00:33:05,317 --> 00:33:07,069 - Oh! How good is that? 934 00:33:07,153 --> 00:33:09,405 - Also showed me a sign of respect. 935 00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:11,449 "I can't stop you, man. I'm sorry. I fouled him." 936 00:33:11,532 --> 00:33:13,117 - You think this big guy is good? 937 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,411 Watch this. He's gonna get hammered right here, 938 00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:18,748 get fouled, still get it up with his strength, get it in, 939 00:33:18,831 --> 00:33:19,957 and count it. 940 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,710 - I had called the SCC numerous times and told them 941 00:33:22,793 --> 00:33:25,880 that the referees have to stop these flagrant fouls. 942 00:33:25,963 --> 00:33:27,798 - Tapped in... - "They can't stop him, 943 00:33:27,882 --> 00:33:28,799 "so they foul him, 944 00:33:28,883 --> 00:33:30,468 "knowing he's a poor free throw shooter. 945 00:33:30,551 --> 00:33:32,511 "Shaquille's gonna be seriously hurt. 946 00:33:32,595 --> 00:33:34,013 It could cost him his career." 947 00:33:34,096 --> 00:33:35,306 - They're gonna get shots. [whistle blows] 948 00:33:35,389 --> 00:33:37,600 O'Neal is fouled by Groves as he made 949 00:33:37,683 --> 00:33:39,685 a strong move to the basket. 950 00:33:39,769 --> 00:33:41,353 Strong being a bit of an understatement 951 00:33:41,437 --> 00:33:42,605 in that case. 952 00:33:42,688 --> 00:33:44,690 - When we go to the SCC tournament, 953 00:33:44,774 --> 00:33:45,941 third time this happened 954 00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:47,234 by this player from Tennessee. 955 00:33:47,318 --> 00:33:48,319 - Won four in a row, lost a heartbreaking... 956 00:33:48,402 --> 00:33:50,237 [whistle blows] 957 00:33:50,321 --> 00:33:51,947 Uh-oh, look out. 958 00:33:52,031 --> 00:33:53,616 Groves and O'Neal square off. 959 00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:55,618 And Dale Brown is pushing Groves. 960 00:33:55,701 --> 00:33:57,286 - And I see Shaquille's knee going out 961 00:33:57,369 --> 00:33:58,788 and a fight breaking out, 962 00:33:58,871 --> 00:34:00,122 so I go out on the court 963 00:34:00,206 --> 00:34:03,125 and get in a confrontation with the guy doing it. 964 00:34:03,209 --> 00:34:05,169 - That's why I love that man. 965 00:34:05,252 --> 00:34:07,213 He was right there next to me. 966 00:34:07,797 --> 00:34:09,465 The reason why I swung on Carlus Groves, 967 00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:10,674 because in my mind, 968 00:34:10,758 --> 00:34:12,843 this dude's trying to mess my money up. 969 00:34:12,927 --> 00:34:14,678 And I wanted to send a message to anybody 970 00:34:14,762 --> 00:34:16,055 that try to mess my money up, 971 00:34:16,138 --> 00:34:18,349 this is what's gonna happen to you. 972 00:34:18,432 --> 00:34:20,434 - Sadly as I hate to say this, 973 00:34:20,518 --> 00:34:22,394 I'm recommending to Shaquille's parents 974 00:34:22,478 --> 00:34:23,854 that he turns NBA. 975 00:34:23,938 --> 00:34:25,898 I do not want to see this young man 976 00:34:25,981 --> 00:34:28,150 blatantly fouled and hurt 977 00:34:28,234 --> 00:34:31,529 and then, because of my selfishness to win, 978 00:34:31,612 --> 00:34:32,905 he doesn't play pro ball. 979 00:34:32,988 --> 00:34:34,156 If he's going to get hurt 980 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:35,699 and people are going to intentionally foul him 981 00:34:35,783 --> 00:34:37,660 for the 18th time, 982 00:34:37,743 --> 00:34:39,453 he needs to go get money to get hurt. 983 00:34:39,537 --> 00:34:41,497 - He's no ordinary 19-year-old. 984 00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:45,709 Standing 7'1" and weighing in at 285 pounds, 985 00:34:45,793 --> 00:34:48,337 his amazing speed and spectacular skills 986 00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:51,048 have made him, without doubt, the most sought-after 987 00:34:51,131 --> 00:34:53,467 collegiate basketball player in the nation. 988 00:34:53,551 --> 00:34:55,636 - Junior year. Dominated. 989 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,471 Dick Vitale's still screaming my name. 990 00:34:57,555 --> 00:34:58,889 - Shaquille O'Neal! 991 00:34:58,973 --> 00:35:00,266 - Go home, same argument. 992 00:35:00,349 --> 00:35:02,059 But it's the first time I stand up to him. 993 00:35:02,142 --> 00:35:03,811 "Man, fuck that. 994 00:35:03,894 --> 00:35:06,564 They fuckin' me up in school. I'm going." 995 00:35:06,647 --> 00:35:07,606 And it was the first time 996 00:35:07,690 --> 00:35:08,983 he looked back at me and was like... 997 00:35:09,066 --> 00:35:11,193 he realized that he created a man. 998 00:35:11,277 --> 00:35:13,195 And then Mom says, "You know what I'm gonna ask you to do. 999 00:35:13,279 --> 00:35:14,697 Pull it out." 1000 00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:15,739 My shit was neat. 1001 00:35:15,823 --> 00:35:18,993 Debits, credits, boom, boom, bada-bam, bada-bing. 1002 00:35:19,076 --> 00:35:20,452 And she said, "Okay, you ready." 1003 00:35:30,629 --> 00:35:32,923 - When you have a dream come alive, 1004 00:35:33,007 --> 00:35:36,218 it's just a blessing instead of hard work. 1005 00:35:38,345 --> 00:35:40,639 He told me I was never gonna have to worry. 1006 00:35:40,723 --> 00:35:41,974 "You won't have to worry about anything. 1007 00:35:42,057 --> 00:35:43,601 You gonna be able to get anything that you want." 1008 00:35:43,684 --> 00:35:46,061 And I said, "Okay, okay. That's fine." 1009 00:35:46,896 --> 00:35:49,398 It's good. It's good for all of us. 1010 00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:51,066 - Good afternoon. The mic's on? 1011 00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:52,568 [tapping] 1012 00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:55,487 Good afternoon. Thank you all for coming. 1013 00:35:55,571 --> 00:35:57,406 About to make my statement. 1014 00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:59,909 I, Shaquille O'Neal, after careful deliberation, 1015 00:35:59,992 --> 00:36:02,953 have decided to forgo my senior year eligibility 1016 00:36:03,037 --> 00:36:04,204 at LSU. 1017 00:36:04,288 --> 00:36:07,166 I'm not making this decision out of anger or frustration. 1018 00:36:07,249 --> 00:36:09,418 I feel that in my heart, it's time for a change 1019 00:36:09,501 --> 00:36:11,754 and it's time for me to move on. 1020 00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:14,089 I've truly enjoyed every aspect of my college years 1021 00:36:14,173 --> 00:36:17,051 as a basketball player and as a student. 1022 00:36:17,134 --> 00:36:19,511 I think the experience was very much needed. 1023 00:36:19,595 --> 00:36:21,430 But now I am ready to take what I've learned 1024 00:36:21,513 --> 00:36:22,973 on with me to the NBA. 1025 00:36:23,057 --> 00:36:25,309 And I'd like to thank you people for coming 1026 00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:27,019 and thank you for the awards, 1027 00:36:27,102 --> 00:36:28,354 and, you know, thank you for everything. 1028 00:36:28,437 --> 00:36:31,273 And thank you for listening. Peace. 1029 00:36:31,357 --> 00:36:33,108 Any questions? 1030 00:36:34,526 --> 00:36:36,445 - Always been our dream to see him play in the NBA. 1031 00:36:36,528 --> 00:36:38,989 My dream, you know. 1032 00:36:39,073 --> 00:36:39,990 Because I wanted to play, 1033 00:36:40,074 --> 00:36:41,116 that's what he playin' in. 1034 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,618 Now my son is gonna play in it. 1035 00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:44,119 It makes me feel a whole lot better 1036 00:36:44,203 --> 00:36:47,122 knowing that my son is able to go farther than what I went, 1037 00:36:47,206 --> 00:36:48,499 you know? 1038 00:36:48,582 --> 00:36:49,792 That's the main... that's what it's all about, 1039 00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:51,293 you know what I mean, your children going farther 1040 00:36:51,377 --> 00:36:52,962 that what you went and doing better 1041 00:36:53,045 --> 00:36:54,213 than what you're gonna be doing. 1042 00:36:54,296 --> 00:36:55,756 - All right. See you later, guy. 1043 00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:57,675 [indistinct chatter] 1044 00:36:57,758 --> 00:36:59,009 - I was elated for the family, 1045 00:36:59,093 --> 00:37:02,012 because, you know, a superstar, 1046 00:37:02,096 --> 00:37:04,848 and they drive up in this old van. 1047 00:37:04,932 --> 00:37:07,685 So I knew it was a pivotal thing financially. 1048 00:37:07,768 --> 00:37:08,852 [people cheering] 1049 00:37:08,936 --> 00:37:11,063 He was gonna help take care of the family. 1050 00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:15,901 - Well, Shaquille, this is it, bro. 1051 00:37:16,610 --> 00:37:18,612 - We're going to work. - Time to go to work, huh? 1052 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,323 - Good evening, 1053 00:37:21,407 --> 00:37:22,366 ladies and gentlemen, 1054 00:37:22,449 --> 00:37:25,202 and welcome to the 1992 NBA Draft. 1055 00:37:25,285 --> 00:37:26,996 [cheers and applause] 1056 00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:28,872 - Draft night was special. 1057 00:37:28,956 --> 00:37:31,333 My grandmother was there. My mother was there. 1058 00:37:31,417 --> 00:37:33,877 Brother, sisters, aunts, uncles, friends. 1059 00:37:33,961 --> 00:37:35,838 And then when they called my name, it was like... 1060 00:37:35,921 --> 00:37:39,717 - With the first pick in the 1992 NBA Draft, 1061 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,178 the Orlando Magic selects Shaquille O'Neal 1062 00:37:43,262 --> 00:37:45,222 from Louisiana State University. 1063 00:37:45,305 --> 00:37:47,558 [cheers and applause] 1064 00:37:47,641 --> 00:37:49,309 - Who, me? 1065 00:37:49,393 --> 00:37:53,063 I wanted to cry inside, but being raised by the Sarge, 1066 00:37:53,147 --> 00:37:54,815 you're not allowed to be emotional. 1067 00:37:54,898 --> 00:37:56,191 You're not allowed to be soft. 1068 00:37:56,275 --> 00:37:59,069 [applause] 1069 00:37:59,153 --> 00:38:03,866 But in my mind, "I'm here. I'm here. 1070 00:38:05,451 --> 00:38:08,495 "All the ass-whuppings, 1071 00:38:08,579 --> 00:38:12,166 "all the doubters, 1072 00:38:12,249 --> 00:38:13,459 I'm here." 1073 00:38:15,377 --> 00:38:16,837 - Well, along with Jack Givens, 1074 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,922 this is Chip Caray welcoming you tonight, 1075 00:38:19,006 --> 00:38:21,467 the debut of perhaps the most heralded rookie 1076 00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:26,096 in the NBA in quite some time, number 32, Shaquille O'Neal. 1077 00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:29,308 The Magic and Miami Heat archrivals battling it out. 1078 00:38:29,391 --> 00:38:31,602 And the opening tap goes to Miami. 1079 00:38:31,685 --> 00:38:35,022 And the Shaquille O'Neal era has begun in the NBA. 1080 00:38:35,105 --> 00:38:36,565 - So now you're in the NBA. 1081 00:38:36,648 --> 00:38:39,193 All the guys you used to see and then dream about 1082 00:38:39,276 --> 00:38:40,569 and look at and drool over, 1083 00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:42,196 they're here now. 1084 00:38:42,279 --> 00:38:44,448 So I'm like, "You ain't where Hakeem at yet." 1085 00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:46,408 ♪ ♪ 1086 00:38:46,492 --> 00:38:47,910 "You ain't where David Robinson at." 1087 00:38:47,993 --> 00:38:49,453 - Shaquille O'Neal is not used to this. 1088 00:38:49,536 --> 00:38:50,913 - "And you ain't where Ewing at." 1089 00:38:50,996 --> 00:38:52,247 - Ewing with the spin. 1090 00:38:52,331 --> 00:38:53,749 Ewing...yes! 1091 00:38:53,832 --> 00:38:56,210 - I wanted to be that guy. 1092 00:38:56,293 --> 00:38:58,170 I wanted what Magic had. 1093 00:38:58,253 --> 00:38:59,463 I wanted what Dr. J had. 1094 00:38:59,546 --> 00:39:01,632 I wanted what Michael Jordan had. 1095 00:39:01,715 --> 00:39:04,051 Michael had all of that. And I wanted that. 1096 00:39:04,718 --> 00:39:06,136 How does he do it? 1097 00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:08,806 Michael Jordan. Ferocity. 1098 00:39:08,889 --> 00:39:10,140 Wanted to be the best ever. 1099 00:39:10,224 --> 00:39:13,644 When he gets fouled hard, he's not shakin' nobody hand. 1100 00:39:13,727 --> 00:39:15,729 Like, I fouled him one time and went to pick him up. 1101 00:39:15,813 --> 00:39:17,356 He said, "Don't do that. 1102 00:39:17,439 --> 00:39:20,234 "Don't ever help nobody up. Good foul." 1103 00:39:20,317 --> 00:39:22,778 I was like, "Damn." 1104 00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:24,113 - And look at that pass. - Oh, they stole it! 1105 00:39:24,196 --> 00:39:26,073 - Stolen by Scott. 1106 00:39:26,156 --> 00:39:27,616 - Well, obviously, Shaq came in 1107 00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:29,284 with all the hype. 1108 00:39:29,368 --> 00:39:31,120 He didn't win a championship. 1109 00:39:31,203 --> 00:39:33,789 He never made that miraculous Final Four run. 1110 00:39:35,165 --> 00:39:36,333 But his dominance... 1111 00:39:36,416 --> 00:39:38,502 [whistle blows] - Oh! 1112 00:39:38,585 --> 00:39:41,338 - He would shoot 72% from the floor, 1113 00:39:41,421 --> 00:39:42,673 and people was like, 1114 00:39:42,756 --> 00:39:44,174 "Well, he doesn't have a free throw," 1115 00:39:44,258 --> 00:39:45,509 or, "He doesn't shoot three." 1116 00:39:45,592 --> 00:39:46,844 Why would you? 1117 00:39:46,927 --> 00:39:50,013 Let the locomotive keep coming down the track. 1118 00:39:50,097 --> 00:39:53,308 Until they figure out a way to stop it, keep going. 1119 00:39:53,392 --> 00:39:55,811 And I think that's the presence 1120 00:39:55,894 --> 00:39:59,022 Shaq brought into the NBA as a rookie. 1121 00:39:59,481 --> 00:40:02,151 - So when you lookin' at a god on TV 1122 00:40:02,234 --> 00:40:03,610 but then when you see him in real life 1123 00:40:03,694 --> 00:40:05,988 and you realize he's not a god, 1124 00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:08,282 now that so-called god is in trouble. 1125 00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:12,744 - Shaq for two over Olajuwon. 1126 00:40:12,828 --> 00:40:15,330 - Sets up O'Neal. Oh, my. 1127 00:40:15,414 --> 00:40:18,792 And then lets the crowd know, "I'm here." 1128 00:40:18,876 --> 00:40:21,628 - The first time Patrick Ewing shot a fadeaway jump shot 1129 00:40:21,712 --> 00:40:22,838 and I'm right there. 1130 00:40:24,173 --> 00:40:26,049 - Ewing. - Ooh. 1131 00:40:26,133 --> 00:40:27,885 I think I can block that. 1132 00:40:27,968 --> 00:40:29,845 So now next time, should get a little closer 1133 00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:31,305 when he get on that fadeaway. 1134 00:40:31,388 --> 00:40:33,557 My father said, "You show a person respect 1135 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,641 "by showing them none. 1136 00:40:34,725 --> 00:40:36,351 "I don't give a damn that's Patrick Ewing. 1137 00:40:36,435 --> 00:40:37,436 You Shaquille O'Neal." 1138 00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,605 - Way of operating offensively. 1139 00:40:39,688 --> 00:40:41,565 Ewing rejected by O'Neal. 1140 00:40:41,648 --> 00:40:42,774 - Yes, sir. 1141 00:40:42,858 --> 00:40:44,860 - Boy, that...when does that happen to Patrick Ewing? 1142 00:40:44,943 --> 00:40:46,403 Maybe...I don't remember. 1143 00:40:46,486 --> 00:40:48,030 - Uh-oh. 1144 00:40:48,113 --> 00:40:50,782 Your ass is in trouble. 1145 00:40:50,866 --> 00:40:51,783 - We're gonna just stand up 1146 00:40:51,867 --> 00:40:52,868 and throw to the commercial. - Okay. 1147 00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:54,203 - Standing up. 1148 00:40:54,286 --> 00:40:55,370 So does your mic... 1149 00:40:55,454 --> 00:40:56,872 I don't think your mic does that... 1150 00:40:56,955 --> 00:40:58,582 stretches that far. 1151 00:40:58,665 --> 00:41:01,001 Here, hold on. [rustling] 1152 00:41:01,084 --> 00:41:02,336 Okay. 1153 00:41:04,171 --> 00:41:05,214 We'll be back in a moment. 1154 00:41:05,297 --> 00:41:06,506 But first... 1155 00:41:07,507 --> 00:41:09,426 I told you what to say. - Oh, I forgot. 1156 00:41:09,509 --> 00:41:12,763 - Come here, come here. [whispering indistinctly] 1157 00:41:12,846 --> 00:41:15,265 - Yeah. Sorry. 1158 00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:18,894 - Go ahead. - This is "Today" on NBC. 1159 00:41:18,977 --> 00:41:21,855 One of my superpowers is, I can stop time. 1160 00:41:21,939 --> 00:41:24,399 And what I mean by that is, I can foresee stuff 1161 00:41:24,483 --> 00:41:25,901 before it happens. 1162 00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:28,111 So I had a professor, Tommy Karam. 1163 00:41:28,195 --> 00:41:29,279 He pulled me to the side and said, 1164 00:41:29,363 --> 00:41:31,406 "Why you don't never want to speak up in the class?" 1165 00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:34,243 "'Cause when I g-g-et nervous, I stutter." 1166 00:41:34,326 --> 00:41:36,370 Profess-professional athlete. 1167 00:41:36,453 --> 00:41:38,205 [stuttering] 1168 00:41:38,288 --> 00:41:40,582 So then we used to set up fake interviews. 1169 00:41:40,666 --> 00:41:42,626 He used to come in with a little VHS camera, 1170 00:41:42,709 --> 00:41:44,086 ask me a question, 1171 00:41:44,169 --> 00:41:45,796 and then we'd stop and go over it. 1172 00:41:45,879 --> 00:41:47,839 So now I'm practicing at home by myself. 1173 00:41:47,923 --> 00:41:50,801 [upbeat music] 1174 00:41:50,884 --> 00:41:52,803 Click. Watch. 1175 00:41:52,886 --> 00:41:54,471 "Don't come in like you're superintelligent, 1176 00:41:54,554 --> 00:41:55,722 "'cause you're not. 1177 00:41:55,806 --> 00:41:56,807 "Move that out the way. 1178 00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:58,141 "Funny. 1179 00:41:58,225 --> 00:41:59,685 "Let them know you're cool. 1180 00:41:59,768 --> 00:42:02,187 Be confident. Be humble." 1181 00:42:02,271 --> 00:42:04,147 All right. Play. [click] 1182 00:42:04,231 --> 00:42:06,066 And then he said the words I needed to hear. 1183 00:42:06,149 --> 00:42:07,693 He said, "When you talkin' to that, 1184 00:42:07,776 --> 00:42:09,486 that's just more money in your pocket." 1185 00:42:09,570 --> 00:42:10,654 Stop. [tape squeals] 1186 00:42:10,737 --> 00:42:12,281 I think I'm...Orlando... 1187 00:42:12,364 --> 00:42:13,782 S-H-A... 1188 00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:14,950 Mickey Mouse. 1189 00:42:15,033 --> 00:42:16,451 Q-I-E... 1190 00:42:16,535 --> 00:42:18,495 Let me see that hat. 1191 00:42:18,578 --> 00:42:21,456 ♪ S-H-A-Q-I-E ♪ 1192 00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:24,001 ♪ M-O-U-S-E ♪ [laughter] 1193 00:42:24,084 --> 00:42:25,794 You gotta do interviews. 1194 00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:27,087 People are gonna love you. 1195 00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:29,172 You gonna make so much money on the side. 1196 00:42:29,256 --> 00:42:30,215 I played all sports. 1197 00:42:30,299 --> 00:42:31,341 - Uh-huh. - I played soccer. 1198 00:42:31,425 --> 00:42:33,135 - Were you good at soccer? - I used to kick people. 1199 00:42:33,218 --> 00:42:35,762 Yeah. [laughter] 1200 00:42:35,846 --> 00:42:37,222 - I'm not sure that's the point of the game. 1201 00:42:38,307 --> 00:42:41,018 Ah. Ah, well. 1202 00:42:50,736 --> 00:42:52,529 Coming into the NBA, I didn't want to be 1203 00:42:52,612 --> 00:42:53,989 a boring big man. 1204 00:42:54,072 --> 00:42:56,325 Big guys don't sell. I'm not in that category. 1205 00:42:56,408 --> 00:42:58,243 I'm over here in this category. 1206 00:42:58,327 --> 00:43:00,370 So I call Arsenio, and I say, "Hey, man. 1207 00:43:00,454 --> 00:43:02,748 I want to be on your show, but I want to be different." 1208 00:43:02,831 --> 00:43:04,041 "What do you mean, brother?" 1209 00:43:04,124 --> 00:43:05,459 I say, "At the end of the show, 1210 00:43:05,542 --> 00:43:07,711 can I rap with my favorite rap group?" 1211 00:43:07,794 --> 00:43:10,047 - Making his TV debut... [chuckles] 1212 00:43:10,130 --> 00:43:13,342 Performing "What's Up Doc?" with his friends, 1213 00:43:13,425 --> 00:43:15,552 who happen to be the fastest-rising rap group 1214 00:43:15,635 --> 00:43:19,222 on the charts, Shaquille O'Neal and Fu-Schnickens. 1215 00:43:19,306 --> 00:43:20,807 - I didn't even know Fu-Shnickens at the time. 1216 00:43:20,891 --> 00:43:22,059 - ♪ Yeah, can we rock ♪ 1217 00:43:22,142 --> 00:43:23,560 ♪ Yeah, what's up, Doc ♪ 1218 00:43:23,643 --> 00:43:25,729 - We practiced the song once or twice, 1219 00:43:25,812 --> 00:43:27,230 and then when the show came, 1220 00:43:27,314 --> 00:43:28,398 I killed it. 1221 00:43:28,482 --> 00:43:30,317 ♪ Yo, I'm the hooper, hyper, protected by a viper ♪ 1222 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,194 ♪ When I'm out there hoopin', yo, you better decipher ♪ 1223 00:43:32,277 --> 00:43:33,779 - They went on and performed. 1224 00:43:33,862 --> 00:43:35,489 Next thing you know, they did a music video, 1225 00:43:35,572 --> 00:43:36,531 "What's Up, Doc?" 1226 00:43:36,615 --> 00:43:38,241 I get a call from Barry Weiss, 1227 00:43:38,325 --> 00:43:39,701 the CEO of Jive Records. 1228 00:43:39,785 --> 00:43:42,162 He says, "I want to sign Shaq to a record deal." 1229 00:43:42,245 --> 00:43:43,372 - Said, "Man, I ain't no rapper." 1230 00:43:43,455 --> 00:43:44,831 "$10 million." 1231 00:43:44,915 --> 00:43:45,957 "What?" [gears rumbling] 1232 00:43:46,041 --> 00:43:47,751 - ♪ Forget Tony Danza, I'm the boss ♪ 1233 00:43:47,834 --> 00:43:50,337 ♪ When it comes to money I'm like Dick the frost ♪ 1234 00:43:50,420 --> 00:43:51,296 - What a rebound. 1235 00:43:51,380 --> 00:43:53,090 He has gone after it with a vengeance. 1236 00:43:53,173 --> 00:43:54,674 No look-see, Dennis Scott. 1237 00:43:54,758 --> 00:43:56,468 - ♪ That's okay, not being braggadocious ♪ 1238 00:43:56,551 --> 00:43:58,637 ♪ Supercalifragilistic, Shaq is alidocious ♪ 1239 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,430 ♪ Peace, I gotta go, I ain't no joke ♪ 1240 00:44:00,514 --> 00:44:02,557 - O'Neal sliding... 1241 00:44:02,641 --> 00:44:03,600 [whistle blows] 1242 00:44:04,726 --> 00:44:07,104 - ♪ What's up, Doc, can we rock ♪ 1243 00:44:07,187 --> 00:44:09,022 ♪ What's up, Doc, can we rock ♪ 1244 00:44:09,106 --> 00:44:09,940 ♪ What's up, Doc ♪ 1245 00:44:10,023 --> 00:44:10,982 - Goes to Reed. Driving shot. 1246 00:44:11,066 --> 00:44:13,235 Blocked by O'Neal out-of-bounds. 1247 00:44:13,318 --> 00:44:15,404 - ♪ What's up, Doc, can we rock ♪ 1248 00:44:15,487 --> 00:44:17,864 - That's the kind of rebound the Magic want from O'Neal. 1249 00:44:17,948 --> 00:44:18,907 For Shaquille. 1250 00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:20,075 ♪ Can we rock ♪ 1251 00:44:20,158 --> 00:44:22,577 ♪ What's up, Doc, can we rock ♪ 1252 00:44:22,661 --> 00:44:25,080 - I would like to present to Shaquille O'Neal 1253 00:44:25,163 --> 00:44:27,499 the Most Valuable Rookie of the Year award. 1254 00:44:27,582 --> 00:44:29,084 [applause] 1255 00:44:29,167 --> 00:44:30,419 - Another trophy for me, 1256 00:44:30,502 --> 00:44:33,422 and I hope I can get an NBA Championship trophy 1257 00:44:33,505 --> 00:44:34,631 to go along with it. 1258 00:44:34,715 --> 00:44:36,341 When I retire and have children, 1259 00:44:36,425 --> 00:44:40,053 I can tell my son, "Son, I was bad." 1260 00:44:40,137 --> 00:44:41,555 [laughter] 1261 00:44:42,848 --> 00:44:43,807 [chains rattle] 1262 00:44:43,890 --> 00:44:45,809 So my agent knew a lot of people. 1263 00:44:45,892 --> 00:44:47,853 He says, "They want you to play in this movie." 1264 00:44:47,936 --> 00:44:50,147 "I don't care if the movie's terrible or not. 1265 00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:52,149 I'm not turning it down." 1266 00:44:52,232 --> 00:44:54,651 Before we start shooting, I gotta work out. 1267 00:44:54,735 --> 00:44:57,446 So we're running a play, and they're stealing clips. 1268 00:44:57,529 --> 00:44:59,364 And then this Penny guy is... 1269 00:44:59,448 --> 00:45:01,116 that dude dropped me off nice. 1270 00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:02,909 [buzzer blares, crowd cheering] 1271 00:45:02,993 --> 00:45:05,454 - And to Hardaway for the jam. 1272 00:45:05,537 --> 00:45:07,205 - To me, I had a game plan. 1273 00:45:07,289 --> 00:45:08,957 Because what I wanted him to know was that 1274 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,625 if I got drafted by the Magic 1275 00:45:10,709 --> 00:45:11,793 that I would be giving him the ball 1276 00:45:11,877 --> 00:45:12,794 and putting him in position 1277 00:45:12,878 --> 00:45:14,171 to be the best that he could be. 1278 00:45:14,254 --> 00:45:15,714 So everything that I did was catered 1279 00:45:15,797 --> 00:45:17,257 towards making Shaq happy. 1280 00:45:17,340 --> 00:45:19,718 - I asked him one day, I said, "How long you been an actor?" 1281 00:45:19,801 --> 00:45:21,344 He said, "No, no. I'm from... I'm Penny Hardaway. 1282 00:45:21,428 --> 00:45:22,345 "I went to Memphis State 1283 00:45:22,429 --> 00:45:23,889 and I put my name in the draft." 1284 00:45:23,972 --> 00:45:25,682 "You did what?" 1285 00:45:25,765 --> 00:45:28,185 I can remember Dennis Scott, my best friend on the team, 1286 00:45:28,268 --> 00:45:30,562 telling me, "Man, some point, you gonna have to go upstairs, 1287 00:45:30,645 --> 00:45:32,731 "and it's gonna have to get ugly, big dog. 1288 00:45:32,814 --> 00:45:33,940 This your team." 1289 00:45:34,024 --> 00:45:35,317 John Gabriel. 1290 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,485 I called him on the phone and said, 1291 00:45:36,568 --> 00:45:38,987 "Hey, man, You heard of Penny Hardaway?" 1292 00:45:39,070 --> 00:45:41,156 "Oh, yeah, I heard of him. He's really good. 1293 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,992 But we probably want to go with Chris Webber." 1294 00:45:44,075 --> 00:45:45,410 "Man, I don't need no power forward 1295 00:45:45,494 --> 00:45:46,495 "that likes to shoot the ball. 1296 00:45:46,578 --> 00:45:47,704 "I need somebody that's gonna give me 1297 00:45:47,787 --> 00:45:48,747 "the damn ball. 1298 00:45:48,830 --> 00:45:50,332 "If you don't pick the Penny guy, brother, 1299 00:45:50,415 --> 00:45:52,000 "I think we gonna have some problems at... 1300 00:45:52,083 --> 00:45:53,335 you know, when my deal is up." 1301 00:45:53,418 --> 00:45:57,422 - With the first pick in the 1993 NBA Draft, 1302 00:45:57,506 --> 00:45:58,715 the Orlando Magic... - Orlando Magic... 1303 00:45:58,798 --> 00:46:00,550 [both] Select Chris Webber. 1304 00:46:00,634 --> 00:46:01,885 [cheers and applause] 1305 00:46:01,968 --> 00:46:03,595 - I tear my back house up. 1306 00:46:03,678 --> 00:46:05,055 Break the glass. 1307 00:46:05,138 --> 00:46:06,723 "You tellin' me I'm the leader. 1308 00:46:06,806 --> 00:46:09,559 And then when I come to you with something and you don't... 1309 00:46:09,643 --> 00:46:11,228 I mean, I'm still a pawn. 1310 00:46:11,311 --> 00:46:13,605 [touch tones beeping] Callin' him, pissed off. 1311 00:46:13,688 --> 00:46:15,524 And then in the middle of the draft... 1312 00:46:15,607 --> 00:46:18,401 - Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to report a trade. 1313 00:46:18,485 --> 00:46:22,197 Orlando has traded the draft rights 1314 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,534 to Chris Webber to Golden State 1315 00:46:25,617 --> 00:46:30,080 for the draft rights to Anfernee Hardaway. 1316 00:46:30,163 --> 00:46:31,873 - Chris Webber to Golden State for Penny Hardaway. 1317 00:46:31,957 --> 00:46:33,041 Now I'm like... 1318 00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:34,876 - When the Magic started, the Nick Anderson, 1319 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,420 you know, the Scott Skiles, it was fun. 1320 00:46:37,504 --> 00:46:39,506 It was, "Hey, the Magic's in town." 1321 00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:41,258 But when Shaq came, 1322 00:46:41,341 --> 00:46:47,222 it was like they were a real professional team now. 1323 00:46:47,305 --> 00:46:49,599 Then draft night, 1324 00:46:49,683 --> 00:46:51,893 I look over to Nick Anderson. 1325 00:46:51,977 --> 00:46:54,604 I said, "This is Shaq and Penny's team now." 1326 00:46:54,688 --> 00:46:56,898 [percussive music] 1327 00:46:56,982 --> 00:46:59,109 And everything just took off. 1328 00:46:59,192 --> 00:47:00,569 [upbeat music] 1329 00:47:00,652 --> 00:47:02,654 - First year with Penny was phenomenal. 1330 00:47:02,737 --> 00:47:05,240 He was the true definition of a point guard. 1331 00:47:05,323 --> 00:47:06,741 True definition of a point guard 1332 00:47:06,825 --> 00:47:08,660 is one that makes players around them better. 1333 00:47:08,743 --> 00:47:10,579 - Hardaway feeds O'Neal. 1334 00:47:10,662 --> 00:47:12,038 - He was always looking for me first. 1335 00:47:12,122 --> 00:47:13,582 - Penny Hardaway fumbles... 1336 00:47:13,665 --> 00:47:15,875 - He's looking for me so much, I don't have to tell him, 1337 00:47:15,959 --> 00:47:17,627 "Yo, man, I'm tired right now. You shoot." 1338 00:47:17,711 --> 00:47:18,920 - Normally got there. 1339 00:47:19,004 --> 00:47:20,171 Skiles hit Hardaway, is twisted, 1340 00:47:20,255 --> 00:47:21,172 but Shaq hammers it in. 1341 00:47:21,256 --> 00:47:22,299 - We didn't have no problems. 1342 00:47:22,382 --> 00:47:24,426 No problems, no arguments, no fights. 1343 00:47:24,509 --> 00:47:27,053 And they said that we were the youngsters of the future. 1344 00:47:27,137 --> 00:47:28,179 - The wave of the future... 1345 00:47:28,263 --> 00:47:29,306 - The freight train, 1346 00:47:29,389 --> 00:47:30,932 we knew we were gettin' that every night. 1347 00:47:31,016 --> 00:47:32,851 We knew Shaq was gonna play hard. 1348 00:47:32,934 --> 00:47:35,186 And Penny was so gifted, you just couldn't guard him 1349 00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:36,396 at 6'8" as a point guard. 1350 00:47:36,479 --> 00:47:38,732 - Penny pattycakes. - Everywhere we went, 1351 00:47:38,815 --> 00:47:41,276 from the time Shaq and Penny came together, 1352 00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:42,444 was a party. 1353 00:47:42,527 --> 00:47:44,446 - Shaq, may I please have an autograph, please? 1354 00:47:44,529 --> 00:47:46,156 - That's when we became a household name. 1355 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,159 - [vocalizing "Inspector Gadget" theme song] 1356 00:47:49,242 --> 00:47:51,494 ♪ ♪ 1357 00:47:51,578 --> 00:47:54,414 Another Dr. Lucille O'Neal quote: 1358 00:47:54,497 --> 00:47:55,749 before you succeed, 1359 00:47:55,832 --> 00:47:57,250 you must first learn to fail. 1360 00:47:58,460 --> 00:47:59,669 We got swept by the Pacers 1361 00:47:59,753 --> 00:48:02,088 'cause we didn't know how to win yet. 1362 00:48:02,172 --> 00:48:03,340 Wasn't good enough. 1363 00:48:03,423 --> 00:48:04,966 We're a young team. They a veteran team. 1364 00:48:05,050 --> 00:48:07,927 They know all the tricks, and we wasn't ready yet. 1365 00:48:09,596 --> 00:48:11,723 Third year, we got Horace Grant. 1366 00:48:11,806 --> 00:48:13,350 - One last time, Horace Grant. 1367 00:48:13,433 --> 00:48:14,559 - We were confidence. 1368 00:48:14,643 --> 00:48:16,936 Penny was an all-star. I was an all-star. 1369 00:48:17,020 --> 00:48:18,521 Everything was flowin' great. 1370 00:48:18,605 --> 00:48:20,982 And then you go up against the great Michael Jordan. 1371 00:48:21,066 --> 00:48:23,693 - It came in a two-word statement, 1372 00:48:23,777 --> 00:48:24,861 "I'm back." 1373 00:48:24,944 --> 00:48:26,655 That was really all Jordan needed to say 1374 00:48:26,738 --> 00:48:29,658 as his 17-month retirement came to an end. 1375 00:48:29,741 --> 00:48:32,661 - The young student must kill the master 1376 00:48:32,744 --> 00:48:34,704 to become the master. 1377 00:48:34,788 --> 00:48:36,873 Mike is the man. 1378 00:48:36,956 --> 00:48:38,667 He left, he comes back. 1379 00:48:38,750 --> 00:48:41,044 I don't care if it's Michael on the court. 1380 00:48:41,127 --> 00:48:42,545 [dramatic music] 1381 00:48:42,629 --> 00:48:43,880 - I knew for us to get over the hump, 1382 00:48:43,963 --> 00:48:45,757 we were gonna have to go through the Bulls, 1383 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,051 the team that won three championships in a row. 1384 00:48:48,134 --> 00:48:49,219 But we knew the competitive nature 1385 00:48:49,302 --> 00:48:51,888 of Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. 1386 00:48:51,971 --> 00:48:53,264 We were the young guns. 1387 00:48:53,348 --> 00:48:54,933 ♪ ♪ 1388 00:48:55,016 --> 00:48:56,393 We weren't really caring about any of that. 1389 00:48:56,476 --> 00:48:57,686 We just knew that we had to go ball. 1390 00:48:57,769 --> 00:48:59,020 - Shaquille O'Neal over Michael. 1391 00:48:59,104 --> 00:49:00,730 That's another three for Anfernee Hardaway. 1392 00:49:00,814 --> 00:49:01,731 - And that's what we did. 1393 00:49:01,815 --> 00:49:03,692 - ♪ I turn to a savage and a beast ♪ 1394 00:49:03,775 --> 00:49:05,860 - And there's Shaq. - Shaquille. 1395 00:49:05,944 --> 00:49:06,820 - Backs him all the way 1396 00:49:06,903 --> 00:49:08,655 and goes up and dunks the ball. 1397 00:49:08,738 --> 00:49:10,490 - Had some problems at the end of the year. 1398 00:49:10,573 --> 00:49:12,867 That's Hardaway with the reverse. 1399 00:49:12,951 --> 00:49:14,244 - Jordan hard to the hoop. 1400 00:49:14,327 --> 00:49:15,912 The reverse from Michael! 1401 00:49:15,995 --> 00:49:17,330 - Shaquille down low. 1402 00:49:17,414 --> 00:49:20,041 Ran the double team. Hardaway hammer time. 1403 00:49:20,125 --> 00:49:22,377 - Pippen driving, stripped by O'Neal. 1404 00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:23,795 O'Neal dunks the ball. 1405 00:49:23,878 --> 00:49:24,838 - It's all over. 1406 00:49:24,921 --> 00:49:26,798 And the Bulls' season comes to an end 1407 00:49:26,881 --> 00:49:29,092 here at the United Center, and the Orlando Magic, 1408 00:49:29,175 --> 00:49:30,593 the number one team... - It was like winning 1409 00:49:30,677 --> 00:49:32,679 the respect battle. 1410 00:49:32,762 --> 00:49:34,764 It was winning the barbershop news. 1411 00:49:34,848 --> 00:49:37,267 And that was the bragging rights. 1412 00:49:37,350 --> 00:49:40,729 For that weekend, that day, we kicked the Bulls' butt. 1413 00:49:40,812 --> 00:49:42,981 - Now, just think about it. You just beat Michael Jordan. 1414 00:49:43,064 --> 00:49:44,399 Who else is left? 1415 00:49:44,482 --> 00:49:46,943 Ain't nobody else left in the league. 1416 00:49:47,026 --> 00:49:48,528 - We weren't worried about playing 1417 00:49:48,611 --> 00:49:51,906 the Indiana Pacers in the Eastern Conference final. 1418 00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:54,367 - The crowd's standing and cheering, 1419 00:49:54,451 --> 00:49:56,035 and they may not sit down till Wednesday. 1420 00:49:56,119 --> 00:49:57,412 - We have about six, seven days off. 1421 00:49:57,495 --> 00:49:58,580 We partyin'. 1422 00:49:58,663 --> 00:50:01,374 Me and D Scott, we in Atlanta at Magic City. 1423 00:50:01,458 --> 00:50:02,459 We did a rap song. 1424 00:50:02,542 --> 00:50:05,295 - ♪ Just a little bit of magic tonight ♪ 1425 00:50:05,378 --> 00:50:06,588 B Shaw, myself. 1426 00:50:06,671 --> 00:50:07,756 ♪ Everything's gonna be all right ♪ 1427 00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:09,174 Then Penny came by, but Penny didn't really rap. 1428 00:50:09,257 --> 00:50:10,300 He was just there. 1429 00:50:10,383 --> 00:50:13,178 We were the Showtime of the South. 1430 00:50:13,261 --> 00:50:16,598 And we wanted to say, "Hey, we know we're good." 1431 00:50:16,681 --> 00:50:20,310 So game one of the finals, 1432 00:50:20,393 --> 00:50:21,436 we're rollin'. 1433 00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:22,479 I'm hittin' threes. 1434 00:50:22,562 --> 00:50:24,731 Shaq's dunkin'. Penny's doing his thing. 1435 00:50:24,814 --> 00:50:25,815 - We was up the whole game. 1436 00:50:25,899 --> 00:50:29,486 And, like, they come back and they go crazy. 1437 00:50:29,569 --> 00:50:31,613 And Nick Anderson, he has the chance 1438 00:50:31,696 --> 00:50:33,072 to make two free throws. 1439 00:50:33,156 --> 00:50:34,616 He misses, 1440 00:50:34,699 --> 00:50:36,826 gets his own rebound, gets fouled again. 1441 00:50:36,910 --> 00:50:38,787 I'm like, "Bro, just hit these two free throws 1442 00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:40,455 "so we can get this little lead, get it stopped. 1443 00:50:40,538 --> 00:50:41,831 We gonna win the first game." 1444 00:50:41,915 --> 00:50:44,584 - Well, the three to make four rule, that's... 1445 00:50:44,667 --> 00:50:46,294 [chuckles] That's... - And then Nick misses 1446 00:50:46,377 --> 00:50:47,337 those free throws. 1447 00:50:47,420 --> 00:50:49,339 - And he misses four straight. 1448 00:50:49,422 --> 00:50:51,841 The Rockets... - We lose our mojo. 1449 00:50:51,925 --> 00:50:54,677 Tide changes. Hakeem gets hot. 1450 00:50:54,761 --> 00:50:56,179 Drexler's doing his thing. 1451 00:50:56,262 --> 00:50:57,472 - And then we lost game one. 1452 00:50:57,555 --> 00:50:59,349 - The Houston Rockets have stunned 1453 00:50:59,432 --> 00:51:01,810 the Orlando Magic. - Now we're worried. 1454 00:51:01,893 --> 00:51:03,895 The problem with the finals is, 1455 00:51:03,978 --> 00:51:05,730 I was going up against one of my idols 1456 00:51:05,814 --> 00:51:07,148 and I showed him too much respect. 1457 00:51:07,232 --> 00:51:08,650 [crowd cheering] 1458 00:51:08,733 --> 00:51:11,986 Now we come into game two, and they blow us out. 1459 00:51:12,070 --> 00:51:14,614 We go to game three in Houston, and we lose. 1460 00:51:14,697 --> 00:51:16,991 [cheers and applause] 1461 00:51:17,075 --> 00:51:18,493 We go to game four... 1462 00:51:18,576 --> 00:51:21,496 [crowd cheering] 1463 00:51:21,579 --> 00:51:23,164 They blow us out. 1464 00:51:23,248 --> 00:51:24,833 - The Houston Rockets 1465 00:51:24,916 --> 00:51:28,586 have swept the Orlando Magic. 1466 00:51:29,546 --> 00:51:32,882 - We were still young and naive. 1467 00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:36,386 Did we say all the right things in practice? 1468 00:51:36,469 --> 00:51:38,596 Did we do all the right things in practice? 1469 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,348 Did we come out and play hard? 1470 00:51:40,431 --> 00:51:42,559 We did! We tried. 1471 00:51:45,186 --> 00:51:46,813 That is... 1472 00:51:52,193 --> 00:51:54,320 That is my saddest moment... 1473 00:51:56,781 --> 00:51:58,491 To be honest with you. 1474 00:52:01,744 --> 00:52:03,663 Because we never... 1475 00:52:06,749 --> 00:52:09,335 Got it back. 1476 00:52:09,419 --> 00:52:12,255 [upbeat music] 1477 00:52:12,338 --> 00:52:14,465 - I'm walking down the street in Chicago. 1478 00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:16,342 This lady comes up to me and says, 1479 00:52:16,426 --> 00:52:17,760 "You shouldn't do that to your father. 1480 00:52:17,844 --> 00:52:19,721 You should give him a second chance." 1481 00:52:19,804 --> 00:52:22,056 I'm like, "What are you talking about?" 1482 00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:24,934 - Can you imagine losing contact with your son 1483 00:52:25,018 --> 00:52:26,477 and being able to hear about him 1484 00:52:26,561 --> 00:52:27,896 only through the press? 1485 00:52:27,979 --> 00:52:29,397 - And then I get home. I called my mom. 1486 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,858 I said, "Mommy, look, did Daddy do something?" 1487 00:52:31,941 --> 00:52:34,235 And she's... "No. 1488 00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:37,155 But Joe Toney done went on the 'Ricki Lake' show." 1489 00:52:37,238 --> 00:52:39,490 I'm like, "What? Who?" 1490 00:52:39,574 --> 00:52:41,951 - Joe Toney is Shaquille O'Neal's birth father 1491 00:52:42,035 --> 00:52:44,621 and hasn't spoken to him in over a decade. 1492 00:52:44,704 --> 00:52:46,247 He says no matter how hard he has tried 1493 00:52:46,331 --> 00:52:47,582 to contact Shaquille, 1494 00:52:47,665 --> 00:52:50,335 his requests to see his son have been turned down. 1495 00:52:50,418 --> 00:52:52,837 - Basically, when Shaquille was born, 1496 00:52:52,921 --> 00:52:55,632 I got in trouble. I was involved with drugs. 1497 00:52:55,715 --> 00:52:57,800 And when he was six months old, I got locked up. 1498 00:52:57,884 --> 00:52:59,469 I went to prison for five years. 1499 00:52:59,552 --> 00:53:00,637 When I came back from prison, 1500 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:02,639 she had married this gentleman in the service 1501 00:53:02,722 --> 00:53:04,223 and they moved to Germany. 1502 00:53:04,307 --> 00:53:06,476 They gave me a bogus address 1503 00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,645 at which to get in touch with them which didn't work. 1504 00:53:08,728 --> 00:53:09,938 But like I said, I just want to get the message... 1505 00:53:10,021 --> 00:53:11,773 I just want a few minutes of his time. 1506 00:53:11,856 --> 00:53:14,943 - I can almost believe that he heard about Shaquille 1507 00:53:15,026 --> 00:53:17,987 from the time he was becoming national news. 1508 00:53:18,071 --> 00:53:22,033 And it probably was burning in him...he missed everything. 1509 00:53:22,116 --> 00:53:24,619 But Shaquille didn't care. 1510 00:53:24,702 --> 00:53:26,120 He wrote a song about Phil. 1511 00:53:26,204 --> 00:53:28,623 He said, "He took me from a boy to a man. 1512 00:53:28,706 --> 00:53:29,791 "And Phil is my father 1513 00:53:29,874 --> 00:53:32,335 'cause my biological didn't bother." 1514 00:53:32,418 --> 00:53:34,170 - ♪ Took me from a boy to a man ♪ 1515 00:53:34,253 --> 00:53:36,005 "Oh, I just want to see him. 1516 00:53:36,089 --> 00:53:37,423 I want to do this. I want to do that." 1517 00:53:37,507 --> 00:53:39,384 But in my mind, it's, 1518 00:53:39,467 --> 00:53:42,011 "When I was trying to get some shoes, where were you?" 1519 00:53:42,095 --> 00:53:43,680 My mom always told me, "Hey, beware. 1520 00:53:43,763 --> 00:53:46,516 Once you get this money, everybody comin'." 1521 00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:47,850 And he was the first one. 1522 00:53:47,934 --> 00:53:49,352 ♪ Biological didn't bother ♪ 1523 00:53:49,435 --> 00:53:51,437 ♪ Bother, bother, bother ♪ 1524 00:53:51,521 --> 00:53:55,316 That year, Penny redid his contract. 1525 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,485 He sat out a couple games. 1526 00:53:57,568 --> 00:54:01,239 Wanted more money than me, which is fine. 1527 00:54:01,322 --> 00:54:03,700 'Cause one thing I understood was marketing and business. 1528 00:54:03,783 --> 00:54:06,869 You pay him $30 million, you gotta pay me $60 million. 1529 00:54:06,953 --> 00:54:08,538 - It was never in the negotiations 1530 00:54:08,621 --> 00:54:09,664 where I was saying I need to make more 1531 00:54:09,747 --> 00:54:11,833 than anybody on the team, Shaq or anyone. 1532 00:54:11,916 --> 00:54:13,084 I just wanted my worth. 1533 00:54:13,167 --> 00:54:16,087 - I create jealousies for myself. 1534 00:54:16,170 --> 00:54:19,424 If you have something, internally, I say I want it. 1535 00:54:19,507 --> 00:54:21,050 And then I just gotta go get it. 1536 00:54:21,134 --> 00:54:23,011 - And then with his tenth three-pointer, 1537 00:54:23,094 --> 00:54:25,096 a new NBA record... 1538 00:54:25,179 --> 00:54:28,224 - I knew that Shaq has to get the first shot. 1539 00:54:28,307 --> 00:54:30,977 If you didn't understand that about him, 1540 00:54:31,060 --> 00:54:33,938 then that's where you were gonna have problems. 1541 00:54:34,022 --> 00:54:35,898 Being the biggest guy in the room, 1542 00:54:35,982 --> 00:54:39,027 he wants the biggest and the most of everything. 1543 00:54:39,110 --> 00:54:41,195 That's for his own ego. 1544 00:54:41,279 --> 00:54:44,532 Our team was young, pretty immature. 1545 00:54:44,615 --> 00:54:46,659 I think that that slowly started to affect 1546 00:54:46,743 --> 00:54:49,203 the camaraderie or lack of it. 1547 00:54:49,287 --> 00:54:51,998 - That's the first part of destroying a franchise, 1548 00:54:52,081 --> 00:54:53,666 destroying a team, 1549 00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:56,169 because your two best players need to be on the same page. 1550 00:54:56,252 --> 00:54:58,171 Like, he was upset that I was getting 1551 00:54:58,254 --> 00:54:59,797 more money or the same amount of money 1552 00:54:59,881 --> 00:55:01,883 or that he deserved more. 1553 00:55:01,966 --> 00:55:03,676 But I felt like he was the man 1554 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,721 and that they were gonna do for him what needed to be done. 1555 00:55:06,804 --> 00:55:09,265 - We came back next year. We're rollin'. 1556 00:55:09,348 --> 00:55:12,769 But it wasn't that same feeling. 1557 00:55:12,852 --> 00:55:16,272 Is Shaq stayin' now? Is Shaq leavin'? 1558 00:55:16,355 --> 00:55:18,066 Is he gettin' a contract? 1559 00:55:18,149 --> 00:55:20,276 Everything changed. 1560 00:55:21,944 --> 00:55:23,071 [buzzer blares] 1561 00:55:23,154 --> 00:55:25,239 - A look at the starting lineups. 1562 00:55:25,323 --> 00:55:28,284 The Magic will start without Shaquille O'Neal. 1563 00:55:28,367 --> 00:55:31,329 - Well, in 1996, my grandmother died. 1564 00:55:31,412 --> 00:55:33,081 After the funeral, I just needed a couple days 1565 00:55:33,164 --> 00:55:34,957 to just relax. 1566 00:55:35,041 --> 00:55:36,584 But they callin' me, "We're playin' the Bulls. 1567 00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:38,795 Come, come, come." Like, "No, I'm not comin'." 1568 00:55:38,878 --> 00:55:42,340 That's more important to them than my family. 1569 00:55:42,423 --> 00:55:43,966 A damn game. 1570 00:55:44,050 --> 00:55:47,136 - Here comes Shaquille O'Neal. 1571 00:55:47,220 --> 00:55:48,971 With a sense of drama, 1572 00:55:49,055 --> 00:55:52,517 Shaquille O'Neal just arrived at the arena. 1573 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,812 He is hustling back to the Orlando locker room 1574 00:55:55,895 --> 00:55:58,981 and, obviously, will try to get himself into uniform 1575 00:55:59,065 --> 00:56:01,109 and will be appearing on the bench. 1576 00:56:01,192 --> 00:56:04,862 - So I come in the middle. We lose. 1577 00:56:04,946 --> 00:56:06,989 And I do something I wasn't supposed to do. 1578 00:56:07,073 --> 00:56:09,200 I go upstairs and say, 1579 00:56:09,283 --> 00:56:11,744 "We startin' off at $115 million." 1580 00:56:11,828 --> 00:56:14,622 They, whoever they may be, did a poll. 1581 00:56:14,705 --> 00:56:17,458 "Is Shaq worth $115 million?" 1582 00:56:17,542 --> 00:56:19,293 And the town said no. 1583 00:56:19,377 --> 00:56:20,670 - Well, I just think if Shaq is as good 1584 00:56:20,753 --> 00:56:22,547 as he thinks he is, why do they ever have 1585 00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:24,507 25, 30 rebounds in a game? 1586 00:56:24,590 --> 00:56:26,425 Why didn't he step up in the fourth quarter? 1587 00:56:26,509 --> 00:56:28,010 You know, he was... - Shaquille O'Neal, 1588 00:56:28,094 --> 00:56:30,847 who's already a millionaire and has a mansion, 1589 00:56:30,930 --> 00:56:32,473 how much more does he need? 1590 00:56:32,557 --> 00:56:34,600 - How dare you ask the community 1591 00:56:34,684 --> 00:56:35,852 should he be paid that much? 1592 00:56:35,935 --> 00:56:36,978 You know better. 1593 00:56:37,061 --> 00:56:38,187 Or maybe you don't. 1594 00:56:38,271 --> 00:56:40,148 - I just think that the man didn't want to play 1595 00:56:40,231 --> 00:56:42,108 for the Magic anymore because he wasn't 1596 00:56:42,191 --> 00:56:45,153 the main man anymore because we got Penny. 1597 00:56:45,236 --> 00:56:47,822 - It reminded me of Snoop Dogg at the Source Awards. 1598 00:56:47,905 --> 00:56:49,991 - The East Coast don't love Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg? 1599 00:56:50,074 --> 00:56:52,827 - Orlando Magic, y'all don't love Shaquille O'Neal? 1600 00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:54,162 - Y'all don't love us? - Y'all don't love me? 1601 00:56:54,245 --> 00:56:56,873 - Shaq wanted to stay with the Orlando Magic. 1602 00:56:56,956 --> 00:56:58,457 He was a small-town guy. 1603 00:56:58,541 --> 00:56:59,917 Instead of offering 1604 00:57:00,001 --> 00:57:03,713 the most dominant player in basketball a max deal, 1605 00:57:03,796 --> 00:57:07,133 they started playing around trying to negotiate with him. 1606 00:57:07,216 --> 00:57:10,887 It really made him feel disrespected. 1607 00:57:10,970 --> 00:57:13,890 - There's no loyalty in any game. 1608 00:57:13,973 --> 00:57:16,559 So get a call from my guy. 1609 00:57:16,642 --> 00:57:18,394 He said, "They offered you $80 million for four. 1610 00:57:18,477 --> 00:57:21,063 I'm like, "That's cool. I could take that." 1611 00:57:21,147 --> 00:57:24,108 Basketball gods or something said, "Don't do it." 1612 00:57:26,652 --> 00:57:27,820 - How much he get? 1613 00:57:29,405 --> 00:57:30,364 - Congratulations, Zo. 1614 00:57:30,448 --> 00:57:32,533 Man, I'm just, you know, hoping to get 1615 00:57:32,617 --> 00:57:33,868 a pretty good deal. 1616 00:57:33,951 --> 00:57:37,622 The Miami Heat signed Juwan for $110 million 1617 00:57:37,705 --> 00:57:39,957 and Alonzo for $115 million. 1618 00:57:40,041 --> 00:57:42,710 And I'm like, "I done killed both of them 1619 00:57:42,793 --> 00:57:44,253 their whole career." 1620 00:57:44,337 --> 00:57:45,713 - Oh! Oh, what a dunk. 1621 00:57:45,796 --> 00:57:48,841 - If a top-of-the-line BMW costs $110 million, 1622 00:57:48,925 --> 00:57:50,927 what does a top-of-the-line Mercedes cost? 1623 00:57:51,010 --> 00:57:52,428 Much more. 1624 00:57:52,511 --> 00:57:54,597 So then we're in the Olympics. We're trainin'. 1625 00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,390 Uncle Jerome and I were out... 1626 00:57:56,474 --> 00:57:58,226 at a gentleman's club, I may add. 1627 00:57:58,309 --> 00:58:01,020 - I remember he got a call from his agent at the time 1628 00:58:01,103 --> 00:58:02,271 that we had to meet him. 1629 00:58:02,355 --> 00:58:04,065 It was, like, early in the morning. 1630 00:58:04,148 --> 00:58:05,608 When we get there, 1631 00:58:05,691 --> 00:58:08,444 his agent is there and Mr. West is there. 1632 00:58:08,527 --> 00:58:10,112 - And then he was like, "Jerry, tell him." 1633 00:58:10,196 --> 00:58:12,990 And Jerry says, "We got some good news 1634 00:58:13,074 --> 00:58:14,116 and I got some bad news." 1635 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,451 And I said, "What's the bad news?" 1636 00:58:15,534 --> 00:58:17,453 He said, "I can't get you that $115 million." 1637 00:58:17,536 --> 00:58:18,579 I said, "What's the good news?" 1638 00:58:18,663 --> 00:58:20,456 "I can get you to $120 million." 1639 00:58:20,539 --> 00:58:21,624 I was like... 1640 00:58:21,707 --> 00:58:24,252 - As a basketball player, I cried. 1641 00:58:24,335 --> 00:58:27,797 Shaq on the floor makes life easier 1642 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,216 because he's that dominant. 1643 00:58:30,299 --> 00:58:31,968 - I didn't know that he was leaving Orlando 1644 00:58:32,051 --> 00:58:35,596 until I saw the actual press conference 1645 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,473 with him holding a Laker jersey 1646 00:58:37,556 --> 00:58:39,058 with Jerry West. 1647 00:58:39,141 --> 00:58:40,851 - Didn't communicate at all. 1648 00:58:40,935 --> 00:58:43,187 Not one time did we call each other 1649 00:58:43,271 --> 00:58:45,648 and talk to each other and talk it out. 1650 00:58:45,731 --> 00:58:47,149 - Penny didn't even know. 1651 00:58:47,233 --> 00:58:49,402 But all I really wanted was for Penny to go 1652 00:58:49,485 --> 00:58:51,445 to the Orlando and say, "Pay Shaq. 1653 00:58:51,529 --> 00:58:53,114 "Shaq stuck up for me. Now I'm stickin' up for him. 1654 00:58:53,197 --> 00:58:55,074 Pay him." But he never did that. 1655 00:58:55,157 --> 00:58:58,119 So in my mind, I was like, "Okay, you want to be the man? 1656 00:58:58,202 --> 00:58:59,370 There you go." 1657 00:58:59,453 --> 00:59:01,289 In case you haven't figured it out yet, 1658 00:59:01,372 --> 00:59:03,499 I've signed with the Los Angeles Lakers. 1659 00:59:03,582 --> 00:59:06,127 Keep in mind the word "change." 1660 00:59:06,210 --> 00:59:08,504 To me, change is for the good. 1661 00:59:08,587 --> 00:59:11,674 And right when I'm signin', Jerry West says to me, 1662 00:59:11,757 --> 00:59:13,509 "In a couple years, you're gonna be 1663 00:59:13,592 --> 00:59:15,219 "one of the best basketball players 1664 00:59:15,303 --> 00:59:16,971 ever to play the game." 1665 00:59:17,054 --> 00:59:19,098 Pause. I was like, "You know what? 1666 00:59:19,181 --> 00:59:20,683 You might be right." 1667 00:59:20,766 --> 00:59:22,727 [gears rumbling] 1668 01:00:52,817 --> 01:00:55,361 [bright tone]128641

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