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- The world knows
I'm a bullshitter.
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Like, sometimes
when you're telling a story,
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you want to add
a little barbecue sauce.
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I don't want to go,
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"I walked to the store
and bought a loaf of bread."
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Like, right, that's
the gist of the story,
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but as I was walking
to a store,
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a dog started chasing me
and I ran up the tree.
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The branch broke.
I landed on my back.
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And then when I land,
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I thought the dog
was gonna bite me,
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but he licked me in the face.
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And then the lady came out,
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and, oh, my God,
she was beautiful.
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And she was single.
And now we're married.
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Like, you just have to...
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I'm not lyin'; I just like
to add a little, you know.
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[Cyndi Lauper's
"Time After Time" playing]
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DJ Diesel,
white guy classics.
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White guy classics.
White guy classics.
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♪ ♪
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[a-ha's "Take On Me" playing]
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♪ ♪
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[laughter]
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That's how we did it
in high school.
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♪ ♪
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Yeah. [chuckles]
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Yeah, that's how we did it.
[laughs]
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- Meet Shaquille O'Neal.
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Averaging 47 points a game,
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Shaquille's a man among boys
on the court.
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- That's a seven-footer!
Are you serious?
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- LSU's Shaquille O'Neal
is already being heralded
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as one of the top centers
in the universe.
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- Square off,
and they're brawling.
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- The Orlando Magic
selects Shaquille O'Neal
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from Louisiana State
University.
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- He brought
the whole thing down.
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- I would like to present
to Shaquille O'Neal
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the Most Valuable
Rookie of the Year award.
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- And the young Orlando Magic
have come here to win
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in Chicago.
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- They have swept
the Orlando Magic!
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- Shaq signed the largest deal
in sports history
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with the Los Angeles Lakers.
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- NBA MVP Shaquille O'Neal.
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- ♪ Take me on ♪
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♪ Take on me ♪
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- I'ma bring the championship
to Miami, I promise.
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- Congratulations, Miami.
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- ♪ In a day or two ♪
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- Give it up
to the greatest big man
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to ever play the game.
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- Can you dig it?
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- My mother comes
from a very religious family.
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So after I was born,
we were outcasted.
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- Well, it was 1970s.
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And a lot
of the young women were looking
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for unique names
for their children.
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And I wanted him to have a name
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that really spoke
to who he was.
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So we looked into a book
of Islamic names.
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Shaquille,
meaning "little one,"
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Rashaun, meaning "warrior,"
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and you know our last name,
O'Neal.
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Shaquille Rashaun O'Neal.
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- She brought me home
to my grandmother's house.
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And it was like she saw
a ray of light.
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'Cause I'ma tell you
about the elderly women
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in my family.
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All the stuff
that's happened to me now?
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They knew.
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They knew.
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They would always say...
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- "Something special
about that one."
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It was something,
something special.
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We lived in a time
where we had civil unrest.
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A lot of things
were a Black and white issue.
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And there was just stress
outside of the home.
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So laughter was one of the ways
that we came together
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and just really enjoyed
being together.
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And it made
for a big, happy family.
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We call him Daddy Shaq
sometimes
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'cause he was the oldest,
and so he was the bossy one.
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And then we had Lateefah.
She's the sensitive one.
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And then we had Ayesha.
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She was the one
that was full of joy
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and full of laughter.
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And we got Jamal.
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He took on a piece of
everybody else's personality.
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And then Phil being
that strong disciplinarian.
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And then here I am,
I'm the peacemaker.
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So we had a good time
with our family.
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- Tell me about your service
in the military.
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- Well, I'm stationed
at Fort Sam Houston, Texas,
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in San Antonio.
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I'm a supply sergeant there.
- Mm-hmm.
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- I'm assigned to
the Academy of Health Science.
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- Mm-hmm.
Looks like you've seen
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quite a bit of service too.
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- Oh, I've been there
for 18 1/2 years.
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- I remember playing ball
with his dad.
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We used to play every Sunday.
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Phil was just a absolute beast.
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He grew up inner city,
where he played sports.
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And then he was a military man.
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- We got married
when Shaquille
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was close to two years old.
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So Phil was his father.
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And he's the only man
and father
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that Shaquille has ever known.
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- We were all product
of inner-city strength.
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Phil made sure that his kids
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wouldn't follow
that same pattern.
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- Oh, it was a lot of love,
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a lot of discipline.
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Like, my dad didn't...
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he did some talking,
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but if you didn't listen,
if you disobeyed,
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he'd put the crackdown on us.
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- He always told me,
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"I'ma make you better
than I was."
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- And my dad
would always tell us,
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"Y'all might hate my ways..."
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- "But you love my results."
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You ever heard that one?
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- The way I got a spankin',
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if you're looking
on the outside,
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you would bring up
the A word.
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But he would never come in
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and just knock me out
for no reason.
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I used to do
a lot of kid stuff.
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Then a strange thing happens.
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As I'm starting
to figure things out
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and be more responsible
around the house,
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I realized
that my last name is different
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from my brother's and sisters'.
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So I said, "Mommy,
why is my name Shaquille O'Neal
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and Jamal, Lateefah,
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and Ayesha's last name
is Harrison?
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- We were just told
that Shaquille was born
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before my mom and dad
got married.
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He kept the name O'Neal
because it just sounded good.
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- And she said,
"Baby, I always wanted
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"to tell you this.
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Sarge is not
your real father."
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What?
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- I wanted to ensure
that he knew the truth.
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And I introduced him
when he got to an age
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where he would understand,
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because I didn't want him
to hear that from anybody else.
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- She said, "Would you like
to meet your real father?"
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- "Yeah, I can get away
from this motherfucker now
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and go live with my other dad."
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And we get in the car,
and guess where we end up at.
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The same projects
I was born and raised in.
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So we go in this guy's house,
Joe Toney,
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and we're sittin' talkin'.
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But I'm lookin' around like...
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"I'm not comin' back
to this shit."
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- He didn't care.
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[chuckles]
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He's like, "Okay."
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- This guy...
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at two years old
when you married him,
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and I look at him
and all the spankings I took,
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that this is my daddy.
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[dramatic music]
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The power of love is great.
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We had so much love growing up.
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I thought I was rich.
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- Money was tight,
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but the love
was overpowering the money,
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so we just all had this bond.
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- Our father had this motto,
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"If one jump in,
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we all jump in."
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One time, this girl,
she hit me in the mouth.
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And I ran and told my sister.
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- So I just immediately went
and hit her.
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Her sister came from the side
and blindsided me,
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so I fell on my back.
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So Shaquille grabbed the sister
by the collar,
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and he took Ayesha,
our younger sister's hand
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and started hitting her
upside the face.
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And then the brother
came down there...
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And this is when Shaquille...
he was, like,
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all into wrestling,
so he picked the brother up
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and he did, like,
a backbreaker on him,
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and the guy's all on the floor.
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And then the mom came,
and she's yelling.
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She's like, "Hey!"
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And then Shaquille's like,
"Oh, my God, we gotta go.
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Let's run."
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So he grabbed us all up,
and we took off running.
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And we get home, then...
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[knocking]
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Knock on the door,
and she was like,
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"Yeah, your kids
beat up my kids.
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"Your son did some kind of move
on my son,
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and now his back
is all hurting."
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And my dad was like,
"Ooh, ooh, I'ma get y'all.
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Wait when they leave."
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My dad closed the door,
and he was like,
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"That's right.
That's what I'm talking about."
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[laughs] "One of y'all
get in a fight,
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y'all all get in a fight."
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- We all looked out
for each other.
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That's just the way it was.
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- Shaquille felt like
he had to take care of us.
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"Listen, y'all are number one."
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Never, "Okay, you do you."
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No, it's not like that.
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- Around Christmastime,
my dad sits me down.
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Said, "Look, dog,
you know,
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"when you get married
you'll understand this.
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"You gotta take care
of the ladies.
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"You always have to protect,
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"provide, and love
for the ladies.
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"You know, I know you want
the big boom box and all that,
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"but I can't get that
right now.
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Next payday,
I'll get it for you."
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"No, that's cool."
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'Cause I'm all about family.
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And if I come in the house
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and see everybody smiling,
I don't need nothing.
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I'm asleep in the room...
not asleep, just fake sleep.
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So I hear everybody
opening up their stuff,
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and I'm just laying there.
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And something hit me
in the stomach.
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"Oh!"
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And I look,
and it was an autographed...
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fake autograph...but it was
an autographed Dr. J ball.
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And then I look on the ground,
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and there was
a little boom box.
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It wasn't no big one.
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And he's like,
"I appreciate you, big man."
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"No, I appreciate you, sir."
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That was
the best Christmas ever.
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- I think what carries him
is the love and the support
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that he always got from Phil.
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He didn't understand it
at first.
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He said, "Well, why did I get
so many whuppings?"
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[laughs]
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I said, "Because you needed
to be disciplined.
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"You needed to be taught,
and sometimes that was
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the only way
to get your attention."
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But he had to realize
that it was for his good.
252
00:09:10,092 --> 00:09:12,261
You don't always
understand why.
253
00:09:12,344 --> 00:09:14,138
But you appreciate it
when you get older,
254
00:09:14,221 --> 00:09:15,723
because had it gone
a different way,
255
00:09:15,806 --> 00:09:18,892
he may not be the man
that he is today.
256
00:09:20,602 --> 00:09:21,645
- I had three escapes.
257
00:09:21,729 --> 00:09:24,523
After I'd get whupped
and get done cryin',
258
00:09:24,606 --> 00:09:26,483
it was like God gave me
a certain remote.
259
00:09:26,567 --> 00:09:28,152
- You know those old TVs
where you had to turn?
260
00:09:28,235 --> 00:09:29,820
- [mimics TV dial clicking]
[TV dial clicks]
261
00:09:29,903 --> 00:09:30,779
- When it would go out,
262
00:09:30,863 --> 00:09:31,822
you'd have to hit it
on the side?
263
00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:32,865
- [vocalizes]
264
00:09:32,948 --> 00:09:34,491
'Cause "Good Times"
is coming on.
265
00:09:34,575 --> 00:09:35,617
- Hello.
266
00:09:35,701 --> 00:09:37,870
- After "Good Times,"
here comes "Sanford and Son."
267
00:09:37,953 --> 00:09:39,830
- Son, you worthless.
268
00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:42,333
- After "Sanford and Son,"
here comes "The Jeffersons."
269
00:09:42,416 --> 00:09:44,209
[laughter]
270
00:09:44,293 --> 00:09:46,045
Every night.
271
00:09:46,128 --> 00:09:48,589
But then the movie
that changed my life,
272
00:09:48,672 --> 00:09:51,133
called
"Fish That Saved Pittsburgh."
273
00:09:51,216 --> 00:09:52,843
And the movie's
about a young guy.
274
00:09:52,926 --> 00:09:56,096
He had to find Dr. J to get
him to play in this game.
275
00:09:56,180 --> 00:09:58,932
And then my father knew
the love I had for the movie.
276
00:09:59,016 --> 00:10:01,226
He said, "Son, if you pass
the next grade,
277
00:10:01,310 --> 00:10:03,187
I'll take you to see Dr. J."
278
00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:06,523
"Him? He's real?"
279
00:10:06,607 --> 00:10:08,484
So I'm busting my ass
in school, boom, boom, boom.
280
00:10:08,567 --> 00:10:11,028
Not an A, B guy. Cs.
281
00:10:11,111 --> 00:10:12,738
And then one day,
I'm sittin' in the room,
282
00:10:12,821 --> 00:10:14,198
and it was just me and him.
283
00:10:14,281 --> 00:10:16,200
He said, "Let's take a ride."
[engine turning over]
284
00:10:16,283 --> 00:10:18,994
We get in our little
Toyota Corolla.
285
00:10:19,078 --> 00:10:20,287
- ♪ Toyota ♪
286
00:10:20,371 --> 00:10:22,247
- We pull up
to Madison Square Garden,
287
00:10:22,331 --> 00:10:23,916
and we go way to the top.
288
00:10:23,999 --> 00:10:26,085
And then finally
when I look down,
289
00:10:26,168 --> 00:10:27,378
Dr. J goes baseline.
290
00:10:27,461 --> 00:10:29,755
Dunks. Crowd go cra...
[mimics crowd cheering]
291
00:10:29,838 --> 00:10:32,091
It was like some spirits
just entered my body.
292
00:10:32,174 --> 00:10:34,051
[vocalizes]
293
00:10:34,134 --> 00:10:35,260
And I just immediately turned
to my father.
294
00:10:35,344 --> 00:10:38,097
I said, "Sir, I know what
I want to be when I grow up."
295
00:10:38,180 --> 00:10:40,599
In his words,
"If you listen to me,
296
00:10:40,682 --> 00:10:43,102
I'll make you one of the best
basketball players ever."
297
00:10:43,185 --> 00:10:44,770
[light music]
298
00:10:44,853 --> 00:10:47,314
- The pituitary gland
begins to secrete
299
00:10:47,398 --> 00:10:49,316
the growth hormone.
300
00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,194
The boy grows rapidly
in height, weight,
301
00:10:52,277 --> 00:10:53,320
and strength.
302
00:10:53,404 --> 00:10:54,947
But the rapid growth
of his muscles
303
00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:57,574
gives him a great need
for activity.
304
00:10:57,658 --> 00:11:00,452
And this may express itself
in many ways.
305
00:11:00,536 --> 00:11:03,414
- My grandfather was 7 foot
before we even realized
306
00:11:03,497 --> 00:11:05,416
that that was something
kind of special.
307
00:11:05,499 --> 00:11:07,793
And I didn't realize
that I would ever have children
308
00:11:07,876 --> 00:11:11,463
that would grow up to be
tall and handsome like that.
309
00:11:11,547 --> 00:11:14,633
Shaquille always grew
a height above
310
00:11:14,716 --> 00:11:17,469
or maybe a few pounds
above his peers.
311
00:11:17,553 --> 00:11:20,305
- I seen my mother knock
a bus driver out one time.
312
00:11:20,389 --> 00:11:22,850
Five and under can ride free.
313
00:11:22,933 --> 00:11:25,269
And I'm three, four,
but I'm a big kid.
314
00:11:25,352 --> 00:11:26,645
And the guy's tellin' my mama,
315
00:11:26,728 --> 00:11:29,231
"If he's five, he must be
retarded or something."
316
00:11:29,314 --> 00:11:31,400
And my mom hit him
with that bing, bing.
317
00:11:31,483 --> 00:11:32,443
- Well, I...[chuckles]
318
00:11:32,526 --> 00:11:34,445
I had to,
because they'd make it seem
319
00:11:34,528 --> 00:11:36,780
like it was something
really wrong with that.
320
00:11:36,864 --> 00:11:38,073
But we learned so much.
321
00:11:38,157 --> 00:11:40,742
And we let him know
that it's okay.
322
00:11:40,826 --> 00:11:42,119
He didn't want
to be different.
323
00:11:42,202 --> 00:11:44,371
He wanted to be
the same height,
324
00:11:44,455 --> 00:11:46,457
the same size
as all of his peers.
325
00:11:46,540 --> 00:11:49,793
But he wasn't, to he had to
accept that fact, the reality.
326
00:11:49,877 --> 00:11:51,170
That was his life.
327
00:11:51,253 --> 00:11:53,839
- You either was gonna get
the clown Shaquille,
328
00:11:53,922 --> 00:11:56,175
or you was gonna get
the bully Shaquille.
329
00:11:56,258 --> 00:11:57,384
There wasn't no middle.
330
00:11:57,468 --> 00:11:58,969
See, being big,
331
00:11:59,052 --> 00:12:01,138
a lot of people thought
I was a holdback.
332
00:12:01,221 --> 00:12:03,390
But actually,
I skipped first grade,
333
00:12:03,474 --> 00:12:05,559
so...which means I was ahead.
334
00:12:05,642 --> 00:12:08,687
"You know, you're 11?
335
00:12:08,770 --> 00:12:10,522
"How are you 11
and you're 6'4"?
336
00:12:10,606 --> 00:12:12,399
You must be stupid
or something."
337
00:12:12,483 --> 00:12:15,027
So now I'm like,
"What'd you just say?
338
00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:17,488
3:00. Outside in the back."
339
00:12:17,571 --> 00:12:19,698
But because of "Good Times,"
"Sanford and Son,"
340
00:12:19,781 --> 00:12:22,784
"Jeffersons,"
I love to laugh.
341
00:12:22,868 --> 00:12:24,786
I didn't want to fight
every day.
342
00:12:24,870 --> 00:12:27,039
Let's laugh.
343
00:12:27,122 --> 00:12:28,665
Let's joke around.
344
00:12:28,749 --> 00:12:31,168
Let's make spit wads
and throw them at the teacher,
345
00:12:31,251 --> 00:12:32,961
and let's have fun.
346
00:12:34,004 --> 00:12:36,465
It was a way
of being accepted.
347
00:12:36,548 --> 00:12:39,843
Didn't want to be looked at
as the tall kid
348
00:12:39,927 --> 00:12:42,596
who, by the way,
was terrible at sports.
349
00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,890
- Who taught him
how to play basketball?
350
00:12:44,973 --> 00:12:46,433
You know, it's hard to say.
351
00:12:46,517 --> 00:12:48,185
Phil taught him
a lot about basketball,
352
00:12:48,268 --> 00:12:51,063
'cause he began coaching him
when he was six years old.
353
00:12:51,146 --> 00:12:53,190
Now, I played basketball too,
354
00:12:53,273 --> 00:12:54,983
so I taught him a trick or two.
355
00:12:55,067 --> 00:12:57,152
[eerie music]
356
00:12:57,236 --> 00:12:58,904
- So when I first started
to play,
357
00:12:58,987 --> 00:13:00,364
my father was like, "Aah."
358
00:13:00,447 --> 00:13:01,532
He's not like, "Here you go."
359
00:13:01,615 --> 00:13:03,408
Like, he...and I'd go like this.
360
00:13:03,492 --> 00:13:04,576
So I can remember one day,
he said,
361
00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:07,871
"Put your hands on your side
and don't move."
362
00:13:07,955 --> 00:13:09,206
And he threw it. I moved.
"What the f...
363
00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:10,916
didn't I say don't move?"
364
00:13:10,999 --> 00:13:12,292
So now I've gotta put
my hands on my side,
365
00:13:12,376 --> 00:13:14,753
and chest pass
right to the face.
366
00:13:14,836 --> 00:13:16,463
Boom.
367
00:13:16,547 --> 00:13:18,924
"Look, see? How was that?"
368
00:13:20,175 --> 00:13:21,260
The point he was trying
to make:
369
00:13:21,343 --> 00:13:22,761
stop being scared of the ball.
370
00:13:22,844 --> 00:13:24,388
'Cause even if you get hit,
371
00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:25,597
this is how it's gonna feel.
372
00:13:25,681 --> 00:13:26,807
I ain't gonna kill you.
373
00:13:26,890 --> 00:13:29,476
So after that,
my hands became impeccable.
374
00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:31,937
Now it's time to put me
on the team and coach me.
375
00:13:32,020 --> 00:13:33,730
I had two moves.
376
00:13:33,814 --> 00:13:35,732
Catch it, look left,
look right,
377
00:13:35,816 --> 00:13:38,151
and dribble, off the glass.
378
00:13:38,235 --> 00:13:41,321
And I can remember a story,
we were in Bayonne, New Jersey.
379
00:13:41,405 --> 00:13:42,239
I'm not really that good.
380
00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:43,615
I'm just bigger
than everybody.
381
00:13:43,699 --> 00:13:46,785
And I can remember this guy
storm on the basketball court,
382
00:13:46,868 --> 00:13:48,120
grab his son.
383
00:13:48,203 --> 00:13:49,162
This is what he says:
384
00:13:49,246 --> 00:13:51,665
"No way that motherfucker's
ten years old.
385
00:13:51,748 --> 00:13:53,125
"If that motherfucker
is ten years old,
386
00:13:53,208 --> 00:13:54,876
"he's gonna be
one of the best NBA players
387
00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,336
to ever fuckin' play the game."
388
00:13:56,420 --> 00:13:57,963
And he walks off.
He takes his kid.
389
00:13:58,046 --> 00:13:59,423
They forfeit the game.
390
00:13:59,506 --> 00:14:01,550
And my dad's like,
"See? See?
391
00:14:01,633 --> 00:14:04,094
If you listen to me, I'ma
make you the best player ever."
392
00:14:06,388 --> 00:14:08,890
I went from the projects
of Newark, New Jersey,
393
00:14:08,974 --> 00:14:11,643
to down South,
Hinesville, Georgia.
394
00:14:11,727 --> 00:14:13,979
First time I seen a whole bunch
of white people
395
00:14:14,062 --> 00:14:15,522
at the same time.
396
00:14:15,606 --> 00:14:17,858
First day of school,
"What's up, my nigga?"
397
00:14:19,026 --> 00:14:20,652
"Is that white boy
supposed to call me that?
398
00:14:20,736 --> 00:14:23,780
3:00.
I'm fucking you up at 3:00."
399
00:14:23,864 --> 00:14:26,116
I gave him the beatdown
of his life.
400
00:14:26,199 --> 00:14:27,784
He starts having a seizure.
401
00:14:27,868 --> 00:14:30,454
There was a guy who saw that,
402
00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:32,748
came, put the pen in his mouth,
403
00:14:32,831 --> 00:14:34,374
and saved this kid's life.
404
00:14:34,458 --> 00:14:37,210
Now, if he wasn't there,
405
00:14:37,294 --> 00:14:38,503
none of this would be.
406
00:14:38,587 --> 00:14:41,006
[sirens wailing]
The cops come,
407
00:14:41,089 --> 00:14:42,716
talk to my dad,
408
00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:44,384
and he spanks me again.
409
00:14:44,468 --> 00:14:46,053
He gives me the, "You know
what could have happened
410
00:14:46,136 --> 00:14:47,512
if you would have killed
this kid?"
411
00:14:47,596 --> 00:14:50,891
So now the bully side is dead.
412
00:14:50,974 --> 00:14:53,226
Dead.
413
00:14:53,310 --> 00:14:55,145
No way.
414
00:14:55,228 --> 00:14:57,230
'Cause it only takes
one mistake.
415
00:14:57,314 --> 00:14:59,316
You can have a million dreams.
416
00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:00,776
Only takes one mistake.
417
00:15:00,859 --> 00:15:02,486
[cell doors clang]
At that point in my life,
418
00:15:02,569 --> 00:15:04,738
I was dreamin'
about being a rapper.
419
00:15:04,821 --> 00:15:06,490
I was dreamin'
about being an actor.
420
00:15:06,573 --> 00:15:08,784
I was dreamin'
about being rich.
421
00:15:08,867 --> 00:15:10,952
I was dreamin' about
being a basketball player.
422
00:15:11,036 --> 00:15:12,204
I was just dreamin'.
423
00:15:12,287 --> 00:15:14,373
And then if all that
didn't work, guess what.
424
00:15:14,456 --> 00:15:15,874
I'm joining the army.
425
00:15:15,957 --> 00:15:19,086
'Cause you know why?
This is a pretty good life.
426
00:15:19,169 --> 00:15:20,796
Always had plans.
427
00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:23,298
I'm never going
to the bottom, ever.
428
00:15:23,382 --> 00:15:24,716
'Cause I've seen the bottom.
429
00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,051
We just came from the bottom.
430
00:15:26,134 --> 00:15:27,928
This guy Philip Harrison
brought us somewhere.
431
00:15:28,011 --> 00:15:29,221
It ain't at the top.
432
00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:30,597
I ain't going back
to the bottom.
433
00:15:30,681 --> 00:15:32,057
Now when I leave Georgia,
434
00:15:32,140 --> 00:15:33,892
we going to a place
called Germany.
435
00:15:33,975 --> 00:15:35,894
[projector clicking]
436
00:15:35,977 --> 00:15:37,312
I'm like, "What's that?"
437
00:15:37,396 --> 00:15:39,106
"Get your ass on the plane!"
438
00:15:40,107 --> 00:15:41,358
Cargo plane.
439
00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:42,734
[plane engine humming]
440
00:15:42,818 --> 00:15:45,070
- There were rows and rows
of military families
441
00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:47,989
going to these different
stations in Germany,
442
00:15:48,073 --> 00:15:49,991
so we didn't feel so alone.
443
00:15:50,075 --> 00:15:53,036
And I can't say
that we weren't ready,
444
00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,038
but we were
a little bit fearful
445
00:15:55,122 --> 00:15:57,874
because we had never been
on an airplane before.
446
00:15:57,958 --> 00:16:00,961
And that is a long, long ride.
447
00:16:01,044 --> 00:16:03,296
- I'm like,
"What the fuck is this?"
448
00:16:03,380 --> 00:16:05,257
Woods.
449
00:16:05,340 --> 00:16:07,092
Wildflecken is on a mountain.
450
00:16:07,175 --> 00:16:09,428
And the base is even smaller.
451
00:16:09,511 --> 00:16:12,264
And now I'm like, "Oh, my God."
452
00:16:12,347 --> 00:16:14,266
And I hate using this word
"depression."
453
00:16:14,349 --> 00:16:16,101
It was bad.
454
00:16:16,184 --> 00:16:18,103
But it was a blessing for me,
455
00:16:18,186 --> 00:16:19,896
'cause now there's
only one thing to do:
456
00:16:19,980 --> 00:16:22,232
play sports.
457
00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:23,817
I go to the base every day.
458
00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:25,569
And there's no kids up there.
459
00:16:25,652 --> 00:16:27,404
I'm only there because
my father runs the gym
460
00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:29,573
and I'm not sitting
at the house all day.
461
00:16:29,656 --> 00:16:31,950
"Get your ass out there
and play."
462
00:16:32,033 --> 00:16:34,411
So I play. I'm terrible.
463
00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,955
People criticizin' me.
I know it.
464
00:16:37,038 --> 00:16:39,207
My father comes in the house
one day.
465
00:16:39,291 --> 00:16:40,417
He hits me
in the back of the head
466
00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:42,961
with a paper.
[mimics whip cracking]
467
00:16:43,044 --> 00:16:46,173
Says, "College coach
comes to Wildflecken
468
00:16:46,256 --> 00:16:47,674
to speak to the troops."
469
00:16:47,758 --> 00:16:48,967
"Get your ass up.
470
00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:50,343
See if you can get
a scholarship."
471
00:16:50,427 --> 00:16:51,803
But before I left, I say,
472
00:16:51,887 --> 00:16:53,805
"I'm talkin'
to a college coach.
473
00:16:53,889 --> 00:16:55,140
Let me sound smart."
474
00:16:55,223 --> 00:16:57,225
So I...
[pages fluttering]
475
00:16:58,393 --> 00:16:59,811
Extremities.
476
00:17:00,562 --> 00:17:04,065
Extrem...extrem...extremities.
477
00:17:05,692 --> 00:17:06,943
- All right, now, no punches
were thrown there.
478
00:17:07,027 --> 00:17:08,904
- Lookit, you see Dale Brown
push Groves?
479
00:17:08,987 --> 00:17:09,946
And then Gro...
480
00:17:10,030 --> 00:17:10,989
- It was really by accident
481
00:17:11,072 --> 00:17:12,157
when I first met him
482
00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,658
in a place called Wildflecken
483
00:17:13,742 --> 00:17:14,826
up in the mountains.
484
00:17:14,910 --> 00:17:16,912
I was at the gym where I was
putting on the clinic.
485
00:17:16,995 --> 00:17:19,456
And I'm packing my bag, and I
get a tap on the shoulder.
486
00:17:19,539 --> 00:17:21,333
And I turn around, and...
487
00:17:21,416 --> 00:17:24,336
here's this giant of a guy,
kind of shy.
488
00:17:24,419 --> 00:17:25,504
"Coach Brown," he said,
489
00:17:25,587 --> 00:17:27,631
I'll be trying out
for the team."
490
00:17:27,714 --> 00:17:30,300
And he said,
"I can't dunk a ball.
491
00:17:30,383 --> 00:17:31,760
"And I run
up and down the court
492
00:17:31,843 --> 00:17:33,512
about three, four times..."
493
00:17:33,595 --> 00:17:35,013
both:
"And my lower extremities..."
494
00:17:35,096 --> 00:17:36,848
- "Tire."
495
00:17:36,932 --> 00:17:38,016
I say, "Lower extremities?"
496
00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:39,810
I didn't say that to him,
but I'm thinking,
497
00:17:39,893 --> 00:17:41,019
"He's a pretty smart guy."
498
00:17:41,102 --> 00:17:44,648
He said, "Can you show me
some exercises to improve it?"
499
00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:46,316
"What I'll do, Soldier,
when I get back to Baton Rouge
500
00:17:46,399 --> 00:17:47,651
is, I'll send you
the weight training program."
501
00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:49,653
I said, "How long
you been in service?"
502
00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:52,489
And he goes like this,
and he goes, "Coach Brown,
503
00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:55,033
I'm only 13 years old."
504
00:17:55,116 --> 00:17:56,493
I said, "What?"
505
00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:58,161
Being the Rhodes Scholar I am,
506
00:17:58,245 --> 00:18:01,623
my next question was,
"Where's your dad?"
507
00:18:01,706 --> 00:18:02,666
He said, "He's in the sauna."
508
00:18:02,749 --> 00:18:04,584
I said, "I'd like to meet him."
509
00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:06,878
So we're heading to the sauna.
510
00:18:06,962 --> 00:18:08,880
I was just putting my hand
on the door
511
00:18:08,964 --> 00:18:10,340
and the door burst open.
512
00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:12,676
And out, coming,
sweating profusely,
513
00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:14,386
military-green towel
around him...
514
00:18:14,469 --> 00:18:16,263
"That's my dad.
That's my dad."
515
00:18:16,346 --> 00:18:18,098
This is important.
516
00:18:18,181 --> 00:18:20,058
I handed him my business card,
and I said,
517
00:18:20,141 --> 00:18:22,602
"Sergeant Harrison,"
I said, "my name's Dale Brown.
518
00:18:22,686 --> 00:18:24,521
I'm the head basketball coach
at LSU."
519
00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:28,191
And almost with disdain,
"Excuse me, Coach Brown."
520
00:18:28,275 --> 00:18:30,902
He says, "This is all fine
and good, basketball."
521
00:18:30,986 --> 00:18:33,196
But he said,
"I think it's time,"
522
00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,532
he said,
"our children get degrees
523
00:18:35,615 --> 00:18:36,950
"so they can be
generals in the army
524
00:18:37,033 --> 00:18:38,243
"instead of a sergeant.
525
00:18:38,326 --> 00:18:39,744
"They can be presidents
of corporations
526
00:18:39,828 --> 00:18:41,037
"instead of janitors.
527
00:18:41,121 --> 00:18:43,707
"They can be head coaches
instead of assistant coaches
528
00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:45,625
"running all over the country
looking for players.
529
00:18:45,709 --> 00:18:47,878
"If you're interested
in my son's intellect,
530
00:18:47,961 --> 00:18:49,671
we might talk someday."
531
00:18:49,754 --> 00:18:51,256
- Sends me the program.
532
00:18:51,339 --> 00:18:52,924
So I try everything.
533
00:18:53,008 --> 00:18:55,093
And I try out
for the team again,
534
00:18:55,177 --> 00:18:56,303
but I don't make it.
535
00:18:56,386 --> 00:18:58,430
So I write him
a tearful letter.
536
00:18:58,513 --> 00:19:02,100
"Coach, I'm sorry.
It didn't work."
537
00:19:02,183 --> 00:19:03,226
- "I did everything..."
538
00:19:03,310 --> 00:19:04,603
- "Thank you for the help."
- "You told me to do..."
539
00:19:04,686 --> 00:19:05,729
- "I appreciate it."
- "And my high school coach
540
00:19:05,812 --> 00:19:07,314
"cut me off the team.
541
00:19:07,397 --> 00:19:10,066
"He told me I'm too slow,
I'm too clumsy,
542
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:11,401
"I have too big of feet.
543
00:19:11,484 --> 00:19:13,778
"I will never be
a basketball player.
544
00:19:13,862 --> 00:19:15,614
Why don't I be a goalie
in soccer?"
545
00:19:15,697 --> 00:19:17,407
So I sat behind my desk
and I thought,
546
00:19:17,490 --> 00:19:19,910
"Now, what kind
of a profound statement
547
00:19:19,993 --> 00:19:22,746
am I gonna make
to a 13-year-old child?"
548
00:19:22,829 --> 00:19:23,914
"Dear Shaquille,
549
00:19:23,997 --> 00:19:25,749
"I'm so sorry
what happened to you.
550
00:19:25,832 --> 00:19:29,002
"But I found out in my life
when I heard people whispering,
551
00:19:29,085 --> 00:19:31,963
"'He has no father.
His mother's on welfare.
552
00:19:32,047 --> 00:19:33,173
"'He lives
in a one-room apartment.
553
00:19:33,256 --> 00:19:34,966
He won't be successful,'
554
00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:39,346
"if you always sincerely
try to do your very best...
555
00:19:39,429 --> 00:19:43,099
"and only you will know that...
and you never give up
556
00:19:43,183 --> 00:19:44,976
"under any conditions,
557
00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:48,647
sooner or later, God'll take
care of everything else."
558
00:19:48,730 --> 00:19:51,566
- That's why I wanted to go
to LSU.
559
00:19:51,650 --> 00:19:55,946
Because before I became
this character known as "Shaq,"
560
00:19:56,029 --> 00:19:57,364
nobody wanted me.
561
00:19:57,447 --> 00:20:01,076
But Dale Brown looked at me.
He chose me.
562
00:20:01,159 --> 00:20:02,619
He put his hand
around my shoulders
563
00:20:02,702 --> 00:20:05,330
and saw something in me
that I didn't see.
564
00:20:05,413 --> 00:20:07,374
♪ ♪
565
00:20:07,457 --> 00:20:09,459
- So I was in my office
one afternoon,
566
00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:11,044
and a tall, skinny kid
walked in.
567
00:20:11,127 --> 00:20:12,671
And I knew who it was,
568
00:20:12,754 --> 00:20:15,006
but I had never really
introduced myself to him.
569
00:20:15,090 --> 00:20:17,342
And he said,
"Coach, I want to try out
570
00:20:17,425 --> 00:20:18,385
for the basketball team."
571
00:20:18,468 --> 00:20:20,804
He said,
"If you promise not to cut me,
572
00:20:20,887 --> 00:20:23,056
I promise you won't regret it."
573
00:20:23,139 --> 00:20:25,976
And I said, "Okay, we'll see
how things go."
574
00:20:26,059 --> 00:20:28,311
Shaquille kind of
cut his teeth
575
00:20:28,395 --> 00:20:29,896
playing down on the base gym
576
00:20:29,980 --> 00:20:32,816
against 19-, 20-, 21-year-old
soldiers.
577
00:20:32,899 --> 00:20:35,360
His dad, Sergeant Harrison,
would take him down,
578
00:20:35,443 --> 00:20:36,653
drop him off.
579
00:20:36,736 --> 00:20:38,822
Man, I tell you what,
I know at that time
580
00:20:38,905 --> 00:20:41,032
I didn't understand that guy.
581
00:20:41,116 --> 00:20:43,451
He was so hard on Shaquille.
He was so...
582
00:20:43,535 --> 00:20:45,161
I think there were times
Shaquille was afraid of him
583
00:20:45,245 --> 00:20:46,663
and rightfully so.
584
00:20:46,746 --> 00:20:48,039
I'm not a parent.
I don't have kids.
585
00:20:48,123 --> 00:20:50,000
It's not my place to say
586
00:20:50,083 --> 00:20:52,335
whether it was too hard
or too soft or...
587
00:20:52,419 --> 00:20:54,838
I think the results
speak for themselves.
588
00:20:54,921 --> 00:20:56,881
Let's just say this,
589
00:20:56,965 --> 00:20:59,259
Sarge had one speed: 11.
590
00:21:01,011 --> 00:21:02,554
When I first started with him,
591
00:21:02,637 --> 00:21:05,223
Shaquille's brain and his body
592
00:21:05,306 --> 00:21:07,350
is still catching up
with his size.
593
00:21:07,434 --> 00:21:09,561
And there were times
when he would run
594
00:21:09,644 --> 00:21:12,439
and his bones were going faster
than his muscles.
595
00:21:12,522 --> 00:21:14,566
And he...it was very painful
for him to run.
596
00:21:14,649 --> 00:21:17,235
And sometimes we'd run
conditioning drills.
597
00:21:17,318 --> 00:21:19,237
He would cry.
[indistinct yelling]
598
00:21:19,321 --> 00:21:22,032
- I had something
called Osgood-Schlatter's.
599
00:21:22,115 --> 00:21:23,074
I was growing too fast,
600
00:21:23,158 --> 00:21:25,577
and my body and my knees
didn't keep up.
601
00:21:25,660 --> 00:21:26,870
- And I'd pull him aside
and say,
602
00:21:26,953 --> 00:21:28,329
"Hey, why don't you sit
this one out?"
603
00:21:28,413 --> 00:21:29,414
He said, "No, Coach.
604
00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:31,666
I'll do what everybody else
does."
605
00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:34,127
As a sophomore
playing on a team
606
00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:37,005
laden with seniors
and a couple of juniors,
607
00:21:37,088 --> 00:21:39,424
he kind of got picked on
a little bit.
608
00:21:39,507 --> 00:21:41,259
We were in a game
up in Osterholz,
609
00:21:41,342 --> 00:21:43,386
which is way up
in northern Germany.
610
00:21:43,470 --> 00:21:45,096
He was open inside,
611
00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:46,806
and they were taking shots
612
00:21:46,890 --> 00:21:49,017
rather than kicking it down
inside to him.
613
00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:50,310
So I told them at halftime,
614
00:21:50,393 --> 00:21:52,437
"If you guys don't start
getting the ball inside to him,
615
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,607
I'ma pull both you guys out
and you're gonna sit."
616
00:21:55,690 --> 00:21:59,027
I think that one of the things
that he appreciates
617
00:21:59,110 --> 00:22:00,570
is that I stood up for him.
618
00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:04,074
Playing high school ball
in Europe,
619
00:22:04,157 --> 00:22:09,329
our average road trip was
between four and five hours.
620
00:22:09,412 --> 00:22:10,914
When I think
about the relationship
621
00:22:10,997 --> 00:22:12,582
that I've had with Shaquille,
622
00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:16,419
it was all forged
on a bus to nowhere
623
00:22:16,503 --> 00:22:19,172
and talking
about what young kids
624
00:22:19,255 --> 00:22:21,508
hoped for and dreamed for,
625
00:22:21,591 --> 00:22:25,678
and, "How come our moms
and dads are so strict on us?"
626
00:22:25,762 --> 00:22:28,306
I was fortunate to be able,
maybe, to give him
627
00:22:28,389 --> 00:22:31,309
some perspective, you know,
during that time in his life
628
00:22:31,392 --> 00:22:33,978
when he was kind of forming
his own opinion
629
00:22:34,062 --> 00:22:36,648
about what he thought
about the world.
630
00:22:36,731 --> 00:22:37,941
So at the end of the year,
631
00:22:38,024 --> 00:22:41,069
we made it to
the small schools tournament.
632
00:22:41,152 --> 00:22:43,571
Unfortunately,
Shaquille's father,
633
00:22:43,655 --> 00:22:47,951
he was destined to be
transferred back to the States.
634
00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:50,120
So we got a call
that he was gonna be leaving.
635
00:22:50,203 --> 00:22:51,496
We looked at the calendar.
636
00:22:51,579 --> 00:22:53,623
We're not gonna have him
for the Elite Eight.
637
00:22:53,706 --> 00:22:54,958
He played
in those last two games.
638
00:22:55,041 --> 00:22:57,085
He played lights out.
639
00:22:57,168 --> 00:22:58,878
We're done,
we're in the locker room,
640
00:22:58,962 --> 00:23:00,547
I'm talking to the team,
641
00:23:00,630 --> 00:23:03,508
and Shaquille was leaning
over the counter to the sinks.
642
00:23:03,591 --> 00:23:05,343
And I noticed the sinks
were wet, and I thought,
643
00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:06,678
"Why is he washing his hands?
644
00:23:06,761 --> 00:23:08,513
"We...I mean, I guess
we just played a game.
645
00:23:08,596 --> 00:23:09,889
I don't know."
646
00:23:09,973 --> 00:23:13,184
And I quickly realized
that it wasn't water.
647
00:23:13,268 --> 00:23:15,395
He was crying.
648
00:23:15,478 --> 00:23:19,357
And I knew in that moment
649
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,193
how difficult
it was gonna be...
650
00:23:22,277 --> 00:23:23,486
[clears throat]
651
00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:24,779
I knew how difficult
it was gonna be
652
00:23:24,863 --> 00:23:26,489
for him to leave us.
653
00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:31,327
And he turned to me,
and he hugged me.
654
00:23:31,411 --> 00:23:33,705
And he said,
"Coach, I love you."
655
00:23:33,788 --> 00:23:35,748
And I said,
"I love you too, big guy."
656
00:23:36,249 --> 00:23:37,917
That's the last time I saw him
657
00:23:38,001 --> 00:23:40,670
until he was playing
for Coach Brown.
658
00:23:41,796 --> 00:23:44,174
- After my sophomore year,
we leave.
659
00:23:44,257 --> 00:23:46,718
Back in Jersey
and seeing family...
660
00:23:46,801 --> 00:23:49,095
"What's happening?" Boom, boom.
Lovin' and huggin'.
661
00:23:49,179 --> 00:23:50,847
We got the moving thing
on top of the car.
662
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,390
I'm like,
"Yo, man, where we going?"
663
00:23:52,473 --> 00:23:54,225
"Shut your ass up
and get in the car."
664
00:23:54,309 --> 00:23:55,226
And we get in the car.
665
00:23:55,310 --> 00:23:58,313
And we drivin' and we drivin'.
666
00:23:58,396 --> 00:24:00,815
Now I'm starting to see stuff
I ain't seen in a while...cows.
667
00:24:00,899 --> 00:24:01,983
I'm like...
668
00:24:02,066 --> 00:24:04,569
And then I see,
"Welcome to Texas."
669
00:24:04,652 --> 00:24:06,863
I'm like, "Texas?"
670
00:24:06,946 --> 00:24:09,532
Cowboys?
671
00:24:09,616 --> 00:24:12,035
We moved
to San Antonio, Texas.
672
00:24:12,118 --> 00:24:13,411
We arrive at the school.
673
00:24:13,494 --> 00:24:15,830
And I'm talking
to the principal,
674
00:24:15,914 --> 00:24:18,082
and I see this little kid
walking down the hall,
675
00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:20,376
and he comes in,
and, "This is Joe Cavallaro.
676
00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:22,295
He's gonna show you around."
677
00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:24,756
- I see Sergeant Harrison
and Shaquille standing there.
678
00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:26,049
Obviously a basketball player,
679
00:24:26,132 --> 00:24:27,425
so about time we get
some good talent
680
00:24:27,508 --> 00:24:28,635
for the basketball team.
681
00:24:28,718 --> 00:24:30,053
- He showed me around.
682
00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:31,179
And, "What about
the basketball team?"
683
00:24:31,262 --> 00:24:32,514
"We ain't really that good."
684
00:24:32,597 --> 00:24:34,432
"But I want to meet
some of the players."
685
00:24:34,515 --> 00:24:37,936
- Our graduating class in 1989
was 79 people.
686
00:24:38,019 --> 00:24:39,562
You couldn't go to the school
unless your parents
687
00:24:39,646 --> 00:24:40,772
were in the military
688
00:24:40,855 --> 00:24:43,608
or if you parents worked
at that school.
689
00:24:43,691 --> 00:24:45,777
- So because there's
not a lot of kids,
690
00:24:45,860 --> 00:24:47,237
I make the team.
691
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,571
I'm a starter.
692
00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:51,532
- The high school years
was something very special
693
00:24:51,616 --> 00:24:54,077
because we were just coming
from Germany.
694
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,079
And I remember
the coach said that,
695
00:24:56,162 --> 00:24:59,916
"I don't know if he can walk
and chew gum at the same time."
696
00:24:59,999 --> 00:25:02,752
We told him, "You may have
to just show them.
697
00:25:02,835 --> 00:25:05,672
Don't even tell them
how good you know you are."
698
00:25:05,755 --> 00:25:07,340
- Our team became
immediately dominant
699
00:25:07,423 --> 00:25:08,508
his junior year.
700
00:25:08,591 --> 00:25:10,093
- He began to get exposure
701
00:25:10,176 --> 00:25:12,095
all around the state of Texas.
702
00:25:12,178 --> 00:25:13,638
- My first article was
703
00:25:13,721 --> 00:25:15,890
"Cole's O'Neal
'best in the U.S.'"
704
00:25:15,974 --> 00:25:18,309
So 35-1, having a good year.
705
00:25:18,393 --> 00:25:21,437
Semifinals going
into the finals.
706
00:25:21,521 --> 00:25:22,772
Down by one.
707
00:25:22,855 --> 00:25:24,482
Shaquille O'Neal gets fouled,
708
00:25:24,565 --> 00:25:26,693
goes to the line, misses.
709
00:25:26,776 --> 00:25:29,946
[indistinct chatter]
710
00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:32,240
- We got beat in the playoffs
711
00:25:32,323 --> 00:25:34,450
because he missed free throws.
712
00:25:34,534 --> 00:25:37,287
That stuck with him
and gave him the motivation
713
00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:38,621
to do what he did
his senior year,
714
00:25:38,705 --> 00:25:40,581
which was absolutely amazing.
715
00:25:40,665 --> 00:25:43,126
[indistinct chatter]
[laughs]
716
00:25:43,209 --> 00:25:44,627
[rhythmic clapping]
717
00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:46,212
cheerleaders:
All right, Shaquille!
718
00:25:46,296 --> 00:25:47,672
- Senior in high school.
719
00:25:47,755 --> 00:25:49,340
Magic Johnson was my guy.
720
00:25:49,424 --> 00:25:51,301
So I'm smooth with the ball.
721
00:25:51,384 --> 00:25:52,343
Look-away pass.
722
00:25:52,427 --> 00:25:54,929
I cross this dude up
at half-court, ooh, ooh.
723
00:25:55,013 --> 00:25:57,682
I go to give a nasty
finger roll, and I miss.
724
00:25:57,765 --> 00:25:59,684
All of a sudden,
I see this big Black dude
725
00:25:59,767 --> 00:26:01,644
walking on the court
in his military fatigues.
726
00:26:01,728 --> 00:26:03,604
It's my father, the Sarge.
727
00:26:03,688 --> 00:26:05,356
He said, "Call a time-out."
728
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,733
"Yes, sir."
729
00:26:06,816 --> 00:26:07,900
He said, "What you doing?"
730
00:26:07,984 --> 00:26:09,319
"Man, I'm just workin'
on my Magic"...
731
00:26:09,402 --> 00:26:10,486
[mimics whip cracking]
[TV dial clicks]
732
00:26:10,570 --> 00:26:11,654
"Fuck that."
733
00:26:13,114 --> 00:26:15,074
[gears rumbling]
734
00:26:15,158 --> 00:26:16,326
"Be Shaquille O'Neal."
735
00:26:18,911 --> 00:26:20,830
"Dunk it every fucking time."
736
00:26:22,206 --> 00:26:23,249
[thunder booming]
737
00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:25,168
And the boys knew
what happened.
738
00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:27,045
They knew the Sarge
done touched me up.
739
00:26:27,128 --> 00:26:28,504
- And I looked at him,
740
00:26:28,588 --> 00:26:29,589
and he was like,
741
00:26:29,672 --> 00:26:31,341
"Give me the goddamn ball."
742
00:26:31,424 --> 00:26:33,009
That's all you had to say, bro.
743
00:26:33,468 --> 00:26:35,386
- When I dunked,
I was so fuckin' mad,
744
00:26:35,470 --> 00:26:37,597
I wanted to break the rim off
for him.
745
00:26:38,264 --> 00:26:39,307
[thud]
746
00:26:39,390 --> 00:26:40,558
"Oh, this is what you want
me to do?"
747
00:26:40,641 --> 00:26:42,393
[grunting]
748
00:26:42,477 --> 00:26:43,603
"This good enough
for you, Sarge?"
749
00:26:43,686 --> 00:26:45,855
[grunting]
750
00:26:45,938 --> 00:26:47,357
Everybody's scared. Terrified.
751
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,901
[people screaming]
I'ma kill your ass out here.
752
00:26:49,984 --> 00:26:51,027
- Monster.
- [growls]
753
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:52,695
- That's the monster shit,
bro.
754
00:26:52,779 --> 00:26:54,280
- He's 7 feet tall,
755
00:26:54,364 --> 00:26:55,865
one of the top five
high school players
756
00:26:55,948 --> 00:26:59,160
in the country,
and he just turned 17.
757
00:26:59,243 --> 00:27:03,039
Shaquille O'Neal,
averaging 47 points a game
758
00:27:03,122 --> 00:27:04,874
in the playoffs.
759
00:27:04,957 --> 00:27:06,250
- He started going up
against these kids
760
00:27:06,334 --> 00:27:07,794
and just doing
what he wanted to.
761
00:27:09,003 --> 00:27:12,673
We beat a team 121-35.
762
00:27:13,383 --> 00:27:15,301
By the end of the game,
the rims were like this...
763
00:27:16,177 --> 00:27:18,638
[crowd cheering,
ball thudding]
764
00:27:18,721 --> 00:27:21,724
[dramatic music]
765
00:27:21,808 --> 00:27:23,434
♪ ♪
766
00:27:23,518 --> 00:27:25,978
[crowd yelling]
767
00:27:27,688 --> 00:27:29,607
Sergeant Harrison saw it
before anybody.
768
00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:31,484
- [mimics whip cracking]
769
00:27:31,567 --> 00:27:33,027
So I'm in the house one day,
770
00:27:33,111 --> 00:27:35,988
and my father comes in
and hits me with a paper again.
771
00:27:36,072 --> 00:27:37,198
"Look at this motherfucker."
772
00:27:37,281 --> 00:27:38,908
- The contact
with the left hand.
773
00:27:38,991 --> 00:27:40,576
- There was a guy
named Jon Koncak.
774
00:27:40,660 --> 00:27:42,537
- Takes it to the basket
and rattles it home.
775
00:27:42,620 --> 00:27:44,831
- He signed $15 million
for three.
776
00:27:44,914 --> 00:27:46,749
"Get your shit.
We gonna watch him play."
777
00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:48,084
- ♪ Toyota ♪
778
00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:50,002
- And I'm watching
this guy play, and I'm like,
779
00:27:50,086 --> 00:27:53,214
"Yo, if he gettin' $15 million
I can get $8 million."
780
00:27:53,297 --> 00:27:56,426
So now I got to stay focused.
Now I'm close.
781
00:27:56,509 --> 00:27:57,802
This article right here
that says
782
00:27:57,885 --> 00:27:59,804
"Cole's O'Neal
'best in the U.S.'"
783
00:27:59,887 --> 00:28:00,972
says that I'm close.
784
00:28:01,055 --> 00:28:02,306
[upbeat music]
785
00:28:02,390 --> 00:28:04,475
- In today's classic,
Shaquille O'Neal,
786
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:07,645
a 6'11" giant
from San Antonio,
787
00:28:07,728 --> 00:28:10,022
will lead the West
against the East.
788
00:28:10,106 --> 00:28:13,568
It's the 12th annual
McDonald's All-American Game.
789
00:28:13,651 --> 00:28:14,902
♪ ♪
790
00:28:14,986 --> 00:28:15,903
- So growing up
in my high school,
791
00:28:15,987 --> 00:28:17,113
I loved Dick Vitale.
792
00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:19,949
- This is excitement.
This is absolutely bedlam.
793
00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:21,617
- Loved him.
794
00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:23,828
And I get
to the McDonald's game,
795
00:28:23,911 --> 00:28:25,663
and I was like,
"Hello, Mr. Vitale."
796
00:28:25,746 --> 00:28:29,834
And Mr. Vitale says,
"And you are?"
797
00:28:29,917 --> 00:28:32,003
I said,
"My name's Shaquille O'Neal."
798
00:28:32,086 --> 00:28:33,337
"Oh, you the big guy from Texas
799
00:28:33,421 --> 00:28:35,339
that played
against those small kids."
800
00:28:35,423 --> 00:28:36,716
Oh, my God.
801
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:38,843
Now I'm fuckin' pissed.
802
00:28:38,926 --> 00:28:39,844
My mom always used to say,
803
00:28:39,927 --> 00:28:41,888
and it didn't make sense
till that day,
804
00:28:41,971 --> 00:28:44,348
"Baby, make 'em remember
your name."
805
00:28:44,432 --> 00:28:45,683
I already know what I'ma do.
806
00:28:45,766 --> 00:28:48,144
First time I touch the ball,
I'm taking it coast-to-coast.
807
00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:50,980
So I blocked
Conrad McRae's shot.
808
00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:52,982
- There's Shaquille
with another rejection.
809
00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:54,025
- Dribble.
810
00:28:54,108 --> 00:28:55,443
Take off
on the free throw line.
811
00:28:55,526 --> 00:28:57,278
Dunk it. Boom.
812
00:28:57,361 --> 00:28:59,155
And then Dick Vitale screamed,
"Oh, my God."
813
00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:00,907
And I'm looking like, "Oh."
- I can't believe it!
814
00:29:00,990 --> 00:29:02,950
I can't believe it!
That's a seven-footer!
815
00:29:03,034 --> 00:29:04,494
Are you serious?
816
00:29:04,577 --> 00:29:06,496
- I'll tell you one thing,
this guy can play.
817
00:29:06,579 --> 00:29:09,248
Shaquille O'Neal
will be a star at LSU.
818
00:29:09,332 --> 00:29:12,210
[percussive music]
819
00:29:12,293 --> 00:29:15,004
♪ ♪
820
00:29:15,087 --> 00:29:17,089
- Now when I go
to Baton Rouge,
821
00:29:17,173 --> 00:29:19,008
it's back to the bottom,
brother.
822
00:29:19,091 --> 00:29:20,259
They got Chris Jackson
823
00:29:20,343 --> 00:29:21,302
and Stanley Roberts.
824
00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:22,762
We don't know who you are.
825
00:29:22,845 --> 00:29:24,388
- I remember him asking
826
00:29:24,472 --> 00:29:26,557
who would start
and all that business.
827
00:29:26,641 --> 00:29:27,934
And I told him right up front,
but I said,
828
00:29:28,017 --> 00:29:31,270
"Shaquille, I have never told
a player he would start.
829
00:29:31,354 --> 00:29:33,606
That has to occur
on the court.
830
00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:34,565
- You know,
I go from averaging
831
00:29:34,649 --> 00:29:36,817
37 points to 6 points.
832
00:29:36,901 --> 00:29:39,195
So my whole freshman year,
I'm playing the game
833
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,072
and I'm turning it over;
I'm fumbling.
834
00:29:41,155 --> 00:29:43,032
It's back to,
"You can't play."
835
00:29:43,115 --> 00:29:44,700
But, you know,
my father always told me,
836
00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:46,911
"If you stay consistent
at something,
837
00:29:46,994 --> 00:29:49,580
whatever you're looking
to accomplish, it will happen."
838
00:29:49,664 --> 00:29:52,833
- I don't think I've ever seen
a player consistently
839
00:29:52,917 --> 00:29:55,461
get better and better
and better and better.
840
00:29:55,545 --> 00:29:57,421
There was no question,
841
00:29:57,505 --> 00:30:00,466
not one doubt in my mind,
he was gonna be a superstar.
842
00:30:01,175 --> 00:30:03,636
- Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf,
aka Chris Jackson,
843
00:30:03,719 --> 00:30:06,806
doesn't know this,
but I used to follow him.
844
00:30:06,889 --> 00:30:08,307
I knew he used to work out
at night,
845
00:30:08,391 --> 00:30:10,268
but nobody was allowed
to go in there.
846
00:30:10,351 --> 00:30:11,769
So I broke in there.
847
00:30:11,852 --> 00:30:13,813
And he was talking to himself.
"Shoot."
848
00:30:13,896 --> 00:30:15,815
And it seemed
like he wasn't missing.
849
00:30:15,898 --> 00:30:18,276
So I'm like, "Okay,
if this what he's doing
850
00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:20,236
to be great, I'ma do it."
851
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:21,279
"Oh, Patrick, you want to try
to guard Shaquille?"
852
00:30:21,362 --> 00:30:23,072
"Oh, Shaquille"...
like, and I would...
853
00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:25,241
I was trying to imagine that.
854
00:30:25,324 --> 00:30:27,118
So guess what happened
my sophomore year.
855
00:30:27,618 --> 00:30:29,954
Mr. Stanley Roberts
flunks out.
856
00:30:30,997 --> 00:30:32,123
Here's my shot.
857
00:30:33,207 --> 00:30:34,584
And I come in
first time I got the ball
858
00:30:34,667 --> 00:30:35,793
and dunked it.
859
00:30:35,876 --> 00:30:37,295
[crowd cheering]
860
00:30:37,378 --> 00:30:38,629
[whistle blows]
I'm like...
861
00:30:38,713 --> 00:30:41,007
- Flips it to O'Neal
and slams it in.
862
00:30:41,090 --> 00:30:42,425
- Shaquille,
and then I'm like...
863
00:30:42,508 --> 00:30:44,677
- I'd say Shaq took it
to the rack.
864
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,970
- Like, man, this is
what I've been dreaming about
865
00:30:46,053 --> 00:30:46,971
all my life.
866
00:30:47,054 --> 00:30:49,348
- 7'1", nearly 300 pounds,
867
00:30:49,432 --> 00:30:51,976
yet only weeks
beyond his 19th birthday,
868
00:30:52,059 --> 00:30:54,812
LSU sophomore Shaquille O'Neal
is already being heralded
869
00:30:54,895 --> 00:30:57,565
as one of the top centers
in the universe.
870
00:30:57,648 --> 00:31:00,693
- My sophomore year, I led
the conference in everything.
871
00:31:00,776 --> 00:31:03,112
And I always knew
from a youngster,
872
00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:05,323
take advantage
of opportunities.
873
00:31:05,406 --> 00:31:07,283
- Great steal.
O'Neal, slam dunk!
874
00:31:07,366 --> 00:31:08,826
Oh, my goodness.
875
00:31:08,909 --> 00:31:11,287
- Sophomore year,
I wanted to go pro.
876
00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:13,122
My father said,
"We've been broke
877
00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:14,457
"17 years of your life.
878
00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:16,000
We can be broke for 18."
879
00:31:16,083 --> 00:31:18,169
- When he first went
to school, everything was
880
00:31:18,252 --> 00:31:19,795
go to school, get education.
881
00:31:19,879 --> 00:31:20,963
Now that Shaquille's
882
00:31:21,047 --> 00:31:22,840
a fairly good
basketball player,
883
00:31:22,923 --> 00:31:23,841
everybody's now saying,
884
00:31:23,924 --> 00:31:26,594
"Dump school
and go to the NBA."
885
00:31:26,677 --> 00:31:29,847
- He probably knew, too,
that he was that good.
886
00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:32,183
And I remember sitting him down
887
00:31:32,266 --> 00:31:35,019
and said, "It's gonna be
different from now on."
888
00:31:35,102 --> 00:31:36,562
- Why? I don't understand that.
889
00:31:36,646 --> 00:31:38,564
'Cause of the money?
Money isn't everything.
890
00:31:38,648 --> 00:31:40,650
'Cause of the publicity?
That's not everything.
891
00:31:40,733 --> 00:31:42,193
- I know it's gonna be
an argument,
892
00:31:42,276 --> 00:31:43,569
'cause he's like, "Nope.
893
00:31:43,653 --> 00:31:45,863
"You ain't doing shit
until you get a degree.
894
00:31:45,946 --> 00:31:47,323
"I don't give a shit
what you say.
895
00:31:47,406 --> 00:31:48,824
"I don't care how much money
they're offering you.
896
00:31:48,908 --> 00:31:50,159
You ain't doing nothing."
897
00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:52,828
- If he goes the NBA and can't
do what they expect him to do,
898
00:31:52,912 --> 00:31:53,996
where's he gonna be at?
899
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,248
- I go...I said,
"I want to go pro."
900
00:31:56,332 --> 00:31:57,541
He's going, "Motherfucker,
901
00:31:57,625 --> 00:31:58,751
"da, da, da, da, da, da, da,
da, da, da, da.
902
00:31:58,834 --> 00:32:00,044
Get out of my face!"
903
00:32:00,127 --> 00:32:02,213
So my mom said,
"Come with me, baby."
904
00:32:02,296 --> 00:32:04,799
And my mom said,
"Balance this checkbook."
905
00:32:04,882 --> 00:32:07,218
I didn't know
what the fuck I was doing.
906
00:32:07,301 --> 00:32:08,719
Mom said,
"You not ready, baby."
907
00:32:08,803 --> 00:32:10,596
- He decided that he wanted
to go back to school
908
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,640
for at least another year
or so.
909
00:32:12,723 --> 00:32:15,434
- "This conversation over."
"Yes, ma'am."
910
00:32:17,186 --> 00:32:19,063
- At that time,
I made it my point
911
00:32:19,146 --> 00:32:20,064
just to help him.
912
00:32:20,147 --> 00:32:22,024
If he needed me, I was there.
913
00:32:22,108 --> 00:32:25,027
He had that dream, "I'm gonna
be professional one day."
914
00:32:25,111 --> 00:32:28,531
We would not pay bills
and get in the car on a Friday
915
00:32:28,614 --> 00:32:31,075
and drive to Louisiana
916
00:32:31,158 --> 00:32:32,702
just to spend
the weekend with him
917
00:32:32,785 --> 00:32:36,539
so that we could be with him
and keep him encouraged.
918
00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:38,874
"You a big man.
You stand tall.
919
00:32:38,958 --> 00:32:40,376
You don't let
anybody move you."
920
00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:42,753
- And it's a 10-point lead.
921
00:32:42,837 --> 00:32:45,089
[indistinct chatter]
922
00:32:45,172 --> 00:32:47,466
One-handed catch by Shaquille.
923
00:32:47,550 --> 00:32:48,634
Got his own rebound.
[whistle blows]
924
00:32:48,718 --> 00:32:50,261
And that'll count.
925
00:32:50,344 --> 00:32:53,013
And a foul as O'Neal will step
to the free throw line.
926
00:32:53,097 --> 00:32:54,765
- People had to compete
against me
927
00:32:54,849 --> 00:32:56,517
because of my size.
928
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,602
They felt they had to get
super physical.
929
00:32:58,686 --> 00:33:01,313
Well, guess what.
I got ass-whuppings every day.
930
00:33:01,397 --> 00:33:02,481
You're not hurting me.
931
00:33:02,565 --> 00:33:03,733
It's just making me
more angry.
932
00:33:03,816 --> 00:33:05,234
[whistle blows]
- And a foul.
933
00:33:05,317 --> 00:33:07,069
- Oh! How good is that?
934
00:33:07,153 --> 00:33:09,405
- Also showed me
a sign of respect.
935
00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:11,449
"I can't stop you, man.
I'm sorry. I fouled him."
936
00:33:11,532 --> 00:33:13,117
- You think
this big guy is good?
937
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,411
Watch this. He's gonna
get hammered right here,
938
00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:18,748
get fouled, still get it up
with his strength, get it in,
939
00:33:18,831 --> 00:33:19,957
and count it.
940
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,710
- I had called the SCC
numerous times and told them
941
00:33:22,793 --> 00:33:25,880
that the referees have to stop
these flagrant fouls.
942
00:33:25,963 --> 00:33:27,798
- Tapped in...
- "They can't stop him,
943
00:33:27,882 --> 00:33:28,799
"so they foul him,
944
00:33:28,883 --> 00:33:30,468
"knowing he's
a poor free throw shooter.
945
00:33:30,551 --> 00:33:32,511
"Shaquille's gonna be
seriously hurt.
946
00:33:32,595 --> 00:33:34,013
It could cost him his career."
947
00:33:34,096 --> 00:33:35,306
- They're gonna get shots.
[whistle blows]
948
00:33:35,389 --> 00:33:37,600
O'Neal is fouled by Groves
as he made
949
00:33:37,683 --> 00:33:39,685
a strong move to the basket.
950
00:33:39,769 --> 00:33:41,353
Strong being a bit
of an understatement
951
00:33:41,437 --> 00:33:42,605
in that case.
952
00:33:42,688 --> 00:33:44,690
- When we go
to the SCC tournament,
953
00:33:44,774 --> 00:33:45,941
third time this happened
954
00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:47,234
by this player
from Tennessee.
955
00:33:47,318 --> 00:33:48,319
- Won four in a row,
lost a heartbreaking...
956
00:33:48,402 --> 00:33:50,237
[whistle blows]
957
00:33:50,321 --> 00:33:51,947
Uh-oh, look out.
958
00:33:52,031 --> 00:33:53,616
Groves and O'Neal square off.
959
00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:55,618
And Dale Brown
is pushing Groves.
960
00:33:55,701 --> 00:33:57,286
- And I see Shaquille's knee
going out
961
00:33:57,369 --> 00:33:58,788
and a fight breaking out,
962
00:33:58,871 --> 00:34:00,122
so I go out on the court
963
00:34:00,206 --> 00:34:03,125
and get in a confrontation
with the guy doing it.
964
00:34:03,209 --> 00:34:05,169
- That's why I love that man.
965
00:34:05,252 --> 00:34:07,213
He was right there next to me.
966
00:34:07,797 --> 00:34:09,465
The reason why I swung
on Carlus Groves,
967
00:34:09,548 --> 00:34:10,674
because in my mind,
968
00:34:10,758 --> 00:34:12,843
this dude's trying
to mess my money up.
969
00:34:12,927 --> 00:34:14,678
And I wanted to send a message
to anybody
970
00:34:14,762 --> 00:34:16,055
that try to mess my money up,
971
00:34:16,138 --> 00:34:18,349
this is what's gonna happen
to you.
972
00:34:18,432 --> 00:34:20,434
- Sadly as I hate to say this,
973
00:34:20,518 --> 00:34:22,394
I'm recommending
to Shaquille's parents
974
00:34:22,478 --> 00:34:23,854
that he turns NBA.
975
00:34:23,938 --> 00:34:25,898
I do not want to see
this young man
976
00:34:25,981 --> 00:34:28,150
blatantly fouled and hurt
977
00:34:28,234 --> 00:34:31,529
and then, because
of my selfishness to win,
978
00:34:31,612 --> 00:34:32,905
he doesn't play pro ball.
979
00:34:32,988 --> 00:34:34,156
If he's going to get hurt
980
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:35,699
and people are going
to intentionally foul him
981
00:34:35,783 --> 00:34:37,660
for the 18th time,
982
00:34:37,743 --> 00:34:39,453
he needs to go get money
to get hurt.
983
00:34:39,537 --> 00:34:41,497
- He's no ordinary
19-year-old.
984
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:45,709
Standing 7'1"
and weighing in at 285 pounds,
985
00:34:45,793 --> 00:34:48,337
his amazing speed
and spectacular skills
986
00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:51,048
have made him, without doubt,
the most sought-after
987
00:34:51,131 --> 00:34:53,467
collegiate basketball player
in the nation.
988
00:34:53,551 --> 00:34:55,636
- Junior year. Dominated.
989
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,471
Dick Vitale's still screaming
my name.
990
00:34:57,555 --> 00:34:58,889
- Shaquille O'Neal!
991
00:34:58,973 --> 00:35:00,266
- Go home, same argument.
992
00:35:00,349 --> 00:35:02,059
But it's the first time
I stand up to him.
993
00:35:02,142 --> 00:35:03,811
"Man, fuck that.
994
00:35:03,894 --> 00:35:06,564
They fuckin' me up in school.
I'm going."
995
00:35:06,647 --> 00:35:07,606
And it was the first time
996
00:35:07,690 --> 00:35:08,983
he looked back at me
and was like...
997
00:35:09,066 --> 00:35:11,193
he realized
that he created a man.
998
00:35:11,277 --> 00:35:13,195
And then Mom says, "You know
what I'm gonna ask you to do.
999
00:35:13,279 --> 00:35:14,697
Pull it out."
1000
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:15,739
My shit was neat.
1001
00:35:15,823 --> 00:35:18,993
Debits, credits, boom, boom,
bada-bam, bada-bing.
1002
00:35:19,076 --> 00:35:20,452
And she said,
"Okay, you ready."
1003
00:35:30,629 --> 00:35:32,923
- When you have a dream
come alive,
1004
00:35:33,007 --> 00:35:36,218
it's just a blessing
instead of hard work.
1005
00:35:38,345 --> 00:35:40,639
He told me I was never
gonna have to worry.
1006
00:35:40,723 --> 00:35:41,974
"You won't have to worry
about anything.
1007
00:35:42,057 --> 00:35:43,601
You gonna be able to get
anything that you want."
1008
00:35:43,684 --> 00:35:46,061
And I said,
"Okay, okay. That's fine."
1009
00:35:46,896 --> 00:35:49,398
It's good.
It's good for all of us.
1010
00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:51,066
- Good afternoon.
The mic's on?
1011
00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:52,568
[tapping]
1012
00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:55,487
Good afternoon.
Thank you all for coming.
1013
00:35:55,571 --> 00:35:57,406
About to make my statement.
1014
00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:59,909
I, Shaquille O'Neal,
after careful deliberation,
1015
00:35:59,992 --> 00:36:02,953
have decided to forgo
my senior year eligibility
1016
00:36:03,037 --> 00:36:04,204
at LSU.
1017
00:36:04,288 --> 00:36:07,166
I'm not making this decision
out of anger or frustration.
1018
00:36:07,249 --> 00:36:09,418
I feel that in my heart,
it's time for a change
1019
00:36:09,501 --> 00:36:11,754
and it's time
for me to move on.
1020
00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:14,089
I've truly enjoyed every aspect
of my college years
1021
00:36:14,173 --> 00:36:17,051
as a basketball player
and as a student.
1022
00:36:17,134 --> 00:36:19,511
I think the experience
was very much needed.
1023
00:36:19,595 --> 00:36:21,430
But now I am ready to take
what I've learned
1024
00:36:21,513 --> 00:36:22,973
on with me to the NBA.
1025
00:36:23,057 --> 00:36:25,309
And I'd like to thank
you people for coming
1026
00:36:25,392 --> 00:36:27,019
and thank you for the awards,
1027
00:36:27,102 --> 00:36:28,354
and, you know, thank you
for everything.
1028
00:36:28,437 --> 00:36:31,273
And thank you for listening.
Peace.
1029
00:36:31,357 --> 00:36:33,108
Any questions?
1030
00:36:34,526 --> 00:36:36,445
- Always been our dream
to see him play in the NBA.
1031
00:36:36,528 --> 00:36:38,989
My dream, you know.
1032
00:36:39,073 --> 00:36:39,990
Because I wanted to play,
1033
00:36:40,074 --> 00:36:41,116
that's what he playin' in.
1034
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,618
Now my son is gonna play in it.
1035
00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:44,119
It makes me feel
a whole lot better
1036
00:36:44,203 --> 00:36:47,122
knowing that my son is able
to go farther than what I went,
1037
00:36:47,206 --> 00:36:48,499
you know?
1038
00:36:48,582 --> 00:36:49,792
That's the main...
that's what it's all about,
1039
00:36:49,875 --> 00:36:51,293
you know what I mean,
your children going farther
1040
00:36:51,377 --> 00:36:52,962
that what you went
and doing better
1041
00:36:53,045 --> 00:36:54,213
than what
you're gonna be doing.
1042
00:36:54,296 --> 00:36:55,756
- All right.
See you later, guy.
1043
00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:57,675
[indistinct chatter]
1044
00:36:57,758 --> 00:36:59,009
- I was elated for the family,
1045
00:36:59,093 --> 00:37:02,012
because, you know, a superstar,
1046
00:37:02,096 --> 00:37:04,848
and they drive up
in this old van.
1047
00:37:04,932 --> 00:37:07,685
So I knew it was
a pivotal thing financially.
1048
00:37:07,768 --> 00:37:08,852
[people cheering]
1049
00:37:08,936 --> 00:37:11,063
He was gonna help take care
of the family.
1050
00:37:14,066 --> 00:37:15,901
- Well, Shaquille,
this is it, bro.
1051
00:37:16,610 --> 00:37:18,612
- We're going to work.
- Time to go to work, huh?
1052
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,323
- Good evening,
1053
00:37:21,407 --> 00:37:22,366
ladies and gentlemen,
1054
00:37:22,449 --> 00:37:25,202
and welcome
to the 1992 NBA Draft.
1055
00:37:25,285 --> 00:37:26,996
[cheers and applause]
1056
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:28,872
- Draft night was special.
1057
00:37:28,956 --> 00:37:31,333
My grandmother was there.
My mother was there.
1058
00:37:31,417 --> 00:37:33,877
Brother, sisters,
aunts, uncles, friends.
1059
00:37:33,961 --> 00:37:35,838
And then when they called
my name, it was like...
1060
00:37:35,921 --> 00:37:39,717
- With the first pick
in the 1992 NBA Draft,
1061
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,178
the Orlando Magic
selects Shaquille O'Neal
1062
00:37:43,262 --> 00:37:45,222
from Louisiana State
University.
1063
00:37:45,305 --> 00:37:47,558
[cheers and applause]
1064
00:37:47,641 --> 00:37:49,309
- Who, me?
1065
00:37:49,393 --> 00:37:53,063
I wanted to cry inside,
but being raised by the Sarge,
1066
00:37:53,147 --> 00:37:54,815
you're not allowed
to be emotional.
1067
00:37:54,898 --> 00:37:56,191
You're not allowed to be soft.
1068
00:37:56,275 --> 00:37:59,069
[applause]
1069
00:37:59,153 --> 00:38:03,866
But in my mind,
"I'm here. I'm here.
1070
00:38:05,451 --> 00:38:08,495
"All the ass-whuppings,
1071
00:38:08,579 --> 00:38:12,166
"all the doubters,
1072
00:38:12,249 --> 00:38:13,459
I'm here."
1073
00:38:15,377 --> 00:38:16,837
- Well,
along with Jack Givens,
1074
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,922
this is Chip Caray
welcoming you tonight,
1075
00:38:19,006 --> 00:38:21,467
the debut of perhaps
the most heralded rookie
1076
00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:26,096
in the NBA in quite some time,
number 32, Shaquille O'Neal.
1077
00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:29,308
The Magic and Miami Heat
archrivals battling it out.
1078
00:38:29,391 --> 00:38:31,602
And the opening tap
goes to Miami.
1079
00:38:31,685 --> 00:38:35,022
And the Shaquille O'Neal era
has begun in the NBA.
1080
00:38:35,105 --> 00:38:36,565
- So now you're in the NBA.
1081
00:38:36,648 --> 00:38:39,193
All the guys you used to see
and then dream about
1082
00:38:39,276 --> 00:38:40,569
and look at and drool over,
1083
00:38:40,652 --> 00:38:42,196
they're here now.
1084
00:38:42,279 --> 00:38:44,448
So I'm like, "You ain't
where Hakeem at yet."
1085
00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:46,408
♪ ♪
1086
00:38:46,492 --> 00:38:47,910
"You ain't
where David Robinson at."
1087
00:38:47,993 --> 00:38:49,453
- Shaquille O'Neal
is not used to this.
1088
00:38:49,536 --> 00:38:50,913
- "And you ain't
where Ewing at."
1089
00:38:50,996 --> 00:38:52,247
- Ewing with the spin.
1090
00:38:52,331 --> 00:38:53,749
Ewing...yes!
1091
00:38:53,832 --> 00:38:56,210
- I wanted
to be that guy.
1092
00:38:56,293 --> 00:38:58,170
I wanted what Magic had.
1093
00:38:58,253 --> 00:38:59,463
I wanted what Dr. J had.
1094
00:38:59,546 --> 00:39:01,632
I wanted
what Michael Jordan had.
1095
00:39:01,715 --> 00:39:04,051
Michael had all of that.
And I wanted that.
1096
00:39:04,718 --> 00:39:06,136
How does he do it?
1097
00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:08,806
Michael Jordan. Ferocity.
1098
00:39:08,889 --> 00:39:10,140
Wanted to be the best ever.
1099
00:39:10,224 --> 00:39:13,644
When he gets fouled hard,
he's not shakin' nobody hand.
1100
00:39:13,727 --> 00:39:15,729
Like, I fouled him one time
and went to pick him up.
1101
00:39:15,813 --> 00:39:17,356
He said, "Don't do that.
1102
00:39:17,439 --> 00:39:20,234
"Don't ever help nobody up.
Good foul."
1103
00:39:20,317 --> 00:39:22,778
I was like, "Damn."
1104
00:39:22,861 --> 00:39:24,113
- And look at that pass.
- Oh, they stole it!
1105
00:39:24,196 --> 00:39:26,073
- Stolen by Scott.
1106
00:39:26,156 --> 00:39:27,616
- Well, obviously,
Shaq came in
1107
00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:29,284
with all the hype.
1108
00:39:29,368 --> 00:39:31,120
He didn't win a championship.
1109
00:39:31,203 --> 00:39:33,789
He never made
that miraculous Final Four run.
1110
00:39:35,165 --> 00:39:36,333
But his dominance...
1111
00:39:36,416 --> 00:39:38,502
[whistle blows]
- Oh!
1112
00:39:38,585 --> 00:39:41,338
- He would shoot
72% from the floor,
1113
00:39:41,421 --> 00:39:42,673
and people was like,
1114
00:39:42,756 --> 00:39:44,174
"Well, he doesn't have
a free throw,"
1115
00:39:44,258 --> 00:39:45,509
or, "He doesn't shoot three."
1116
00:39:45,592 --> 00:39:46,844
Why would you?
1117
00:39:46,927 --> 00:39:50,013
Let the locomotive
keep coming down the track.
1118
00:39:50,097 --> 00:39:53,308
Until they figure out a way
to stop it, keep going.
1119
00:39:53,392 --> 00:39:55,811
And I think
that's the presence
1120
00:39:55,894 --> 00:39:59,022
Shaq brought into the NBA
as a rookie.
1121
00:39:59,481 --> 00:40:02,151
- So when you lookin'
at a god on TV
1122
00:40:02,234 --> 00:40:03,610
but then when you see him
in real life
1123
00:40:03,694 --> 00:40:05,988
and you realize
he's not a god,
1124
00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:08,282
now that so-called god
is in trouble.
1125
00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:12,744
- Shaq for two
over Olajuwon.
1126
00:40:12,828 --> 00:40:15,330
- Sets up O'Neal. Oh, my.
1127
00:40:15,414 --> 00:40:18,792
And then lets the crowd know,
"I'm here."
1128
00:40:18,876 --> 00:40:21,628
- The first time Patrick Ewing
shot a fadeaway jump shot
1129
00:40:21,712 --> 00:40:22,838
and I'm right there.
1130
00:40:24,173 --> 00:40:26,049
- Ewing.
- Ooh.
1131
00:40:26,133 --> 00:40:27,885
I think I can block that.
1132
00:40:27,968 --> 00:40:29,845
So now next time,
should get a little closer
1133
00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:31,305
when he get on that fadeaway.
1134
00:40:31,388 --> 00:40:33,557
My father said,
"You show a person respect
1135
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,641
"by showing them none.
1136
00:40:34,725 --> 00:40:36,351
"I don't give a damn
that's Patrick Ewing.
1137
00:40:36,435 --> 00:40:37,436
You Shaquille O'Neal."
1138
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:39,605
- Way of operating
offensively.
1139
00:40:39,688 --> 00:40:41,565
Ewing rejected by O'Neal.
1140
00:40:41,648 --> 00:40:42,774
- Yes, sir.
1141
00:40:42,858 --> 00:40:44,860
- Boy, that...when does that
happen to Patrick Ewing?
1142
00:40:44,943 --> 00:40:46,403
Maybe...I don't remember.
1143
00:40:46,486 --> 00:40:48,030
- Uh-oh.
1144
00:40:48,113 --> 00:40:50,782
Your ass is in trouble.
1145
00:40:50,866 --> 00:40:51,783
- We're gonna just stand up
1146
00:40:51,867 --> 00:40:52,868
and throw to the commercial.
- Okay.
1147
00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:54,203
- Standing up.
1148
00:40:54,286 --> 00:40:55,370
So does your mic...
1149
00:40:55,454 --> 00:40:56,872
I don't think
your mic does that...
1150
00:40:56,955 --> 00:40:58,582
stretches that far.
1151
00:40:58,665 --> 00:41:01,001
Here, hold on.
[rustling]
1152
00:41:01,084 --> 00:41:02,336
Okay.
1153
00:41:04,171 --> 00:41:05,214
We'll be back in a moment.
1154
00:41:05,297 --> 00:41:06,506
But first...
1155
00:41:07,507 --> 00:41:09,426
I told you what to say.
- Oh, I forgot.
1156
00:41:09,509 --> 00:41:12,763
- Come here, come here.
[whispering indistinctly]
1157
00:41:12,846 --> 00:41:15,265
- Yeah. Sorry.
1158
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:18,894
- Go ahead.
- This is "Today" on NBC.
1159
00:41:18,977 --> 00:41:21,855
One of my superpowers is,
I can stop time.
1160
00:41:21,939 --> 00:41:24,399
And what I mean by that is,
I can foresee stuff
1161
00:41:24,483 --> 00:41:25,901
before it happens.
1162
00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:28,111
So I had a professor,
Tommy Karam.
1163
00:41:28,195 --> 00:41:29,279
He pulled me to the side
and said,
1164
00:41:29,363 --> 00:41:31,406
"Why you don't never
want to speak up in the class?"
1165
00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:34,243
"'Cause when I g-g-et nervous,
I stutter."
1166
00:41:34,326 --> 00:41:36,370
Profess-professional athlete.
1167
00:41:36,453 --> 00:41:38,205
[stuttering]
1168
00:41:38,288 --> 00:41:40,582
So then we used to set up
fake interviews.
1169
00:41:40,666 --> 00:41:42,626
He used to come in
with a little VHS camera,
1170
00:41:42,709 --> 00:41:44,086
ask me a question,
1171
00:41:44,169 --> 00:41:45,796
and then we'd stop
and go over it.
1172
00:41:45,879 --> 00:41:47,839
So now I'm practicing at home
by myself.
1173
00:41:47,923 --> 00:41:50,801
[upbeat music]
1174
00:41:50,884 --> 00:41:52,803
Click. Watch.
1175
00:41:52,886 --> 00:41:54,471
"Don't come in
like you're superintelligent,
1176
00:41:54,554 --> 00:41:55,722
"'cause you're not.
1177
00:41:55,806 --> 00:41:56,807
"Move that out the way.
1178
00:41:56,890 --> 00:41:58,141
"Funny.
1179
00:41:58,225 --> 00:41:59,685
"Let them know you're cool.
1180
00:41:59,768 --> 00:42:02,187
Be confident. Be humble."
1181
00:42:02,271 --> 00:42:04,147
All right. Play.
[click]
1182
00:42:04,231 --> 00:42:06,066
And then he said the words
I needed to hear.
1183
00:42:06,149 --> 00:42:07,693
He said,
"When you talkin' to that,
1184
00:42:07,776 --> 00:42:09,486
that's just more money
in your pocket."
1185
00:42:09,570 --> 00:42:10,654
Stop.
[tape squeals]
1186
00:42:10,737 --> 00:42:12,281
I think I'm...Orlando...
1187
00:42:12,364 --> 00:42:13,782
S-H-A...
1188
00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:14,950
Mickey Mouse.
1189
00:42:15,033 --> 00:42:16,451
Q-I-E...
1190
00:42:16,535 --> 00:42:18,495
Let me see that hat.
1191
00:42:18,578 --> 00:42:21,456
♪ S-H-A-Q-I-E ♪
1192
00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:24,001
♪ M-O-U-S-E ♪
[laughter]
1193
00:42:24,084 --> 00:42:25,794
You gotta do interviews.
1194
00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:27,087
People are gonna love you.
1195
00:42:27,170 --> 00:42:29,172
You gonna make so much money
on the side.
1196
00:42:29,256 --> 00:42:30,215
I played all sports.
1197
00:42:30,299 --> 00:42:31,341
- Uh-huh.
- I played soccer.
1198
00:42:31,425 --> 00:42:33,135
- Were you good at soccer?
- I used to kick people.
1199
00:42:33,218 --> 00:42:35,762
Yeah.
[laughter]
1200
00:42:35,846 --> 00:42:37,222
- I'm not sure
that's the point of the game.
1201
00:42:38,307 --> 00:42:41,018
Ah. Ah, well.
1202
00:42:50,736 --> 00:42:52,529
Coming into the NBA,
I didn't want to be
1203
00:42:52,612 --> 00:42:53,989
a boring big man.
1204
00:42:54,072 --> 00:42:56,325
Big guys don't sell.
I'm not in that category.
1205
00:42:56,408 --> 00:42:58,243
I'm over here
in this category.
1206
00:42:58,327 --> 00:43:00,370
So I call Arsenio, and I say,
"Hey, man.
1207
00:43:00,454 --> 00:43:02,748
I want to be on your show,
but I want to be different."
1208
00:43:02,831 --> 00:43:04,041
"What do you mean, brother?"
1209
00:43:04,124 --> 00:43:05,459
I say, "At the end of the show,
1210
00:43:05,542 --> 00:43:07,711
can I rap
with my favorite rap group?"
1211
00:43:07,794 --> 00:43:10,047
- Making his TV debut...
[chuckles]
1212
00:43:10,130 --> 00:43:13,342
Performing "What's Up Doc?"
with his friends,
1213
00:43:13,425 --> 00:43:15,552
who happen to be
the fastest-rising rap group
1214
00:43:15,635 --> 00:43:19,222
on the charts, Shaquille O'Neal
and Fu-Schnickens.
1215
00:43:19,306 --> 00:43:20,807
- I didn't even know
Fu-Shnickens at the time.
1216
00:43:20,891 --> 00:43:22,059
- ♪ Yeah, can we rock ♪
1217
00:43:22,142 --> 00:43:23,560
♪ Yeah, what's up, Doc ♪
1218
00:43:23,643 --> 00:43:25,729
- We practiced the song
once or twice,
1219
00:43:25,812 --> 00:43:27,230
and then when the show came,
1220
00:43:27,314 --> 00:43:28,398
I killed it.
1221
00:43:28,482 --> 00:43:30,317
♪ Yo, I'm the hooper, hyper,
protected by a viper ♪
1222
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,194
♪ When I'm out there hoopin',
yo, you better decipher ♪
1223
00:43:32,277 --> 00:43:33,779
- They went on and performed.
1224
00:43:33,862 --> 00:43:35,489
Next thing you know,
they did a music video,
1225
00:43:35,572 --> 00:43:36,531
"What's Up, Doc?"
1226
00:43:36,615 --> 00:43:38,241
I get a call from Barry Weiss,
1227
00:43:38,325 --> 00:43:39,701
the CEO of Jive Records.
1228
00:43:39,785 --> 00:43:42,162
He says, "I want to sign Shaq
to a record deal."
1229
00:43:42,245 --> 00:43:43,372
- Said, "Man,
I ain't no rapper."
1230
00:43:43,455 --> 00:43:44,831
"$10 million."
1231
00:43:44,915 --> 00:43:45,957
"What?"
[gears rumbling]
1232
00:43:46,041 --> 00:43:47,751
- ♪ Forget Tony Danza,
I'm the boss ♪
1233
00:43:47,834 --> 00:43:50,337
♪ When it comes to money
I'm like Dick the frost ♪
1234
00:43:50,420 --> 00:43:51,296
- What a rebound.
1235
00:43:51,380 --> 00:43:53,090
He has gone after it
with a vengeance.
1236
00:43:53,173 --> 00:43:54,674
No look-see, Dennis Scott.
1237
00:43:54,758 --> 00:43:56,468
- ♪ That's okay,
not being braggadocious ♪
1238
00:43:56,551 --> 00:43:58,637
♪ Supercalifragilistic,
Shaq is alidocious ♪
1239
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:00,430
♪ Peace, I gotta go,
I ain't no joke ♪
1240
00:44:00,514 --> 00:44:02,557
- O'Neal sliding...
1241
00:44:02,641 --> 00:44:03,600
[whistle blows]
1242
00:44:04,726 --> 00:44:07,104
- ♪ What's up, Doc,
can we rock ♪
1243
00:44:07,187 --> 00:44:09,022
♪ What's up, Doc,
can we rock ♪
1244
00:44:09,106 --> 00:44:09,940
♪ What's up, Doc ♪
1245
00:44:10,023 --> 00:44:10,982
- Goes to Reed. Driving shot.
1246
00:44:11,066 --> 00:44:13,235
Blocked by O'Neal
out-of-bounds.
1247
00:44:13,318 --> 00:44:15,404
- ♪ What's up, Doc,
can we rock ♪
1248
00:44:15,487 --> 00:44:17,864
- That's the kind of rebound
the Magic want from O'Neal.
1249
00:44:17,948 --> 00:44:18,907
For Shaquille.
1250
00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:20,075
♪ Can we rock ♪
1251
00:44:20,158 --> 00:44:22,577
♪ What's up, Doc,
can we rock ♪
1252
00:44:22,661 --> 00:44:25,080
- I would like to present
to Shaquille O'Neal
1253
00:44:25,163 --> 00:44:27,499
the Most Valuable
Rookie of the Year award.
1254
00:44:27,582 --> 00:44:29,084
[applause]
1255
00:44:29,167 --> 00:44:30,419
- Another trophy for me,
1256
00:44:30,502 --> 00:44:33,422
and I hope I can get
an NBA Championship trophy
1257
00:44:33,505 --> 00:44:34,631
to go along with it.
1258
00:44:34,715 --> 00:44:36,341
When I retire
and have children,
1259
00:44:36,425 --> 00:44:40,053
I can tell my son,
"Son, I was bad."
1260
00:44:40,137 --> 00:44:41,555
[laughter]
1261
00:44:42,848 --> 00:44:43,807
[chains rattle]
1262
00:44:43,890 --> 00:44:45,809
So my agent knew
a lot of people.
1263
00:44:45,892 --> 00:44:47,853
He says, "They want you
to play in this movie."
1264
00:44:47,936 --> 00:44:50,147
"I don't care if the movie's
terrible or not.
1265
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:52,149
I'm not turning it down."
1266
00:44:52,232 --> 00:44:54,651
Before we start shooting,
I gotta work out.
1267
00:44:54,735 --> 00:44:57,446
So we're running a play,
and they're stealing clips.
1268
00:44:57,529 --> 00:44:59,364
And then this Penny guy is...
1269
00:44:59,448 --> 00:45:01,116
that dude dropped me off nice.
1270
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:02,909
[buzzer blares, crowd cheering]
1271
00:45:02,993 --> 00:45:05,454
- And to Hardaway for the jam.
1272
00:45:05,537 --> 00:45:07,205
- To me, I had a game plan.
1273
00:45:07,289 --> 00:45:08,957
Because what I wanted him
to know was that
1274
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,625
if I got drafted
by the Magic
1275
00:45:10,709 --> 00:45:11,793
that I would be giving him
the ball
1276
00:45:11,877 --> 00:45:12,794
and putting him in position
1277
00:45:12,878 --> 00:45:14,171
to be the best
that he could be.
1278
00:45:14,254 --> 00:45:15,714
So everything that I did
was catered
1279
00:45:15,797 --> 00:45:17,257
towards making Shaq happy.
1280
00:45:17,340 --> 00:45:19,718
- I asked him one day, I said,
"How long you been an actor?"
1281
00:45:19,801 --> 00:45:21,344
He said, "No, no. I'm from...
I'm Penny Hardaway.
1282
00:45:21,428 --> 00:45:22,345
"I went to Memphis State
1283
00:45:22,429 --> 00:45:23,889
and I put my name
in the draft."
1284
00:45:23,972 --> 00:45:25,682
"You did what?"
1285
00:45:25,765 --> 00:45:28,185
I can remember Dennis Scott,
my best friend on the team,
1286
00:45:28,268 --> 00:45:30,562
telling me, "Man, some point,
you gonna have to go upstairs,
1287
00:45:30,645 --> 00:45:32,731
"and it's gonna have
to get ugly, big dog.
1288
00:45:32,814 --> 00:45:33,940
This your team."
1289
00:45:34,024 --> 00:45:35,317
John Gabriel.
1290
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,485
I called him on the phone
and said,
1291
00:45:36,568 --> 00:45:38,987
"Hey, man,
You heard of Penny Hardaway?"
1292
00:45:39,070 --> 00:45:41,156
"Oh, yeah, I heard of him.
He's really good.
1293
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,992
But we probably want to go
with Chris Webber."
1294
00:45:44,075 --> 00:45:45,410
"Man, I don't need
no power forward
1295
00:45:45,494 --> 00:45:46,495
"that likes to shoot the ball.
1296
00:45:46,578 --> 00:45:47,704
"I need somebody
that's gonna give me
1297
00:45:47,787 --> 00:45:48,747
"the damn ball.
1298
00:45:48,830 --> 00:45:50,332
"If you don't pick
the Penny guy, brother,
1299
00:45:50,415 --> 00:45:52,000
"I think we gonna have
some problems at...
1300
00:45:52,083 --> 00:45:53,335
you know, when my deal is up."
1301
00:45:53,418 --> 00:45:57,422
- With the first pick
in the 1993 NBA Draft,
1302
00:45:57,506 --> 00:45:58,715
the Orlando Magic...
- Orlando Magic...
1303
00:45:58,798 --> 00:46:00,550
[both] Select Chris Webber.
1304
00:46:00,634 --> 00:46:01,885
[cheers and applause]
1305
00:46:01,968 --> 00:46:03,595
- I tear my back house up.
1306
00:46:03,678 --> 00:46:05,055
Break the glass.
1307
00:46:05,138 --> 00:46:06,723
"You tellin' me
I'm the leader.
1308
00:46:06,806 --> 00:46:09,559
And then when I come to you
with something and you don't...
1309
00:46:09,643 --> 00:46:11,228
I mean, I'm still a pawn.
1310
00:46:11,311 --> 00:46:13,605
[touch tones beeping]
Callin' him, pissed off.
1311
00:46:13,688 --> 00:46:15,524
And then in the middle
of the draft...
1312
00:46:15,607 --> 00:46:18,401
- Ladies and gentlemen,
I'd like to report a trade.
1313
00:46:18,485 --> 00:46:22,197
Orlando has traded
the draft rights
1314
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,534
to Chris Webber to Golden State
1315
00:46:25,617 --> 00:46:30,080
for the draft rights
to Anfernee Hardaway.
1316
00:46:30,163 --> 00:46:31,873
- Chris Webber to Golden State
for Penny Hardaway.
1317
00:46:31,957 --> 00:46:33,041
Now I'm like...
1318
00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:34,876
- When the Magic started,
the Nick Anderson,
1319
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,420
you know,
the Scott Skiles, it was fun.
1320
00:46:37,504 --> 00:46:39,506
It was,
"Hey, the Magic's in town."
1321
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:41,258
But when Shaq came,
1322
00:46:41,341 --> 00:46:47,222
it was like they were
a real professional team now.
1323
00:46:47,305 --> 00:46:49,599
Then draft night,
1324
00:46:49,683 --> 00:46:51,893
I look over to Nick Anderson.
1325
00:46:51,977 --> 00:46:54,604
I said, "This is Shaq
and Penny's team now."
1326
00:46:54,688 --> 00:46:56,898
[percussive music]
1327
00:46:56,982 --> 00:46:59,109
And everything just took off.
1328
00:46:59,192 --> 00:47:00,569
[upbeat music]
1329
00:47:00,652 --> 00:47:02,654
- First year with Penny
was phenomenal.
1330
00:47:02,737 --> 00:47:05,240
He was the true definition
of a point guard.
1331
00:47:05,323 --> 00:47:06,741
True definition
of a point guard
1332
00:47:06,825 --> 00:47:08,660
is one that makes
players around them better.
1333
00:47:08,743 --> 00:47:10,579
- Hardaway feeds O'Neal.
1334
00:47:10,662 --> 00:47:12,038
- He was always looking
for me first.
1335
00:47:12,122 --> 00:47:13,582
- Penny Hardaway fumbles...
1336
00:47:13,665 --> 00:47:15,875
- He's looking for me so much,
I don't have to tell him,
1337
00:47:15,959 --> 00:47:17,627
"Yo, man, I'm tired right now.
You shoot."
1338
00:47:17,711 --> 00:47:18,920
- Normally got there.
1339
00:47:19,004 --> 00:47:20,171
Skiles hit Hardaway,
is twisted,
1340
00:47:20,255 --> 00:47:21,172
but Shaq hammers it in.
1341
00:47:21,256 --> 00:47:22,299
- We didn't have no problems.
1342
00:47:22,382 --> 00:47:24,426
No problems, no arguments,
no fights.
1343
00:47:24,509 --> 00:47:27,053
And they said that we were
the youngsters of the future.
1344
00:47:27,137 --> 00:47:28,179
- The wave of the future...
1345
00:47:28,263 --> 00:47:29,306
- The freight train,
1346
00:47:29,389 --> 00:47:30,932
we knew we were gettin' that
every night.
1347
00:47:31,016 --> 00:47:32,851
We knew
Shaq was gonna play hard.
1348
00:47:32,934 --> 00:47:35,186
And Penny was so gifted,
you just couldn't guard him
1349
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:36,396
at 6'8" as a point guard.
1350
00:47:36,479 --> 00:47:38,732
- Penny pattycakes.
- Everywhere we went,
1351
00:47:38,815 --> 00:47:41,276
from the time
Shaq and Penny came together,
1352
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:42,444
was a party.
1353
00:47:42,527 --> 00:47:44,446
- Shaq, may I please have
an autograph, please?
1354
00:47:44,529 --> 00:47:46,156
- That's when we became
a household name.
1355
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,159
- [vocalizing
"Inspector Gadget" theme song]
1356
00:47:49,242 --> 00:47:51,494
♪ ♪
1357
00:47:51,578 --> 00:47:54,414
Another Dr. Lucille O'Neal
quote:
1358
00:47:54,497 --> 00:47:55,749
before you succeed,
1359
00:47:55,832 --> 00:47:57,250
you must first learn to fail.
1360
00:47:58,460 --> 00:47:59,669
We got swept by the Pacers
1361
00:47:59,753 --> 00:48:02,088
'cause we didn't know
how to win yet.
1362
00:48:02,172 --> 00:48:03,340
Wasn't good enough.
1363
00:48:03,423 --> 00:48:04,966
We're a young team.
They a veteran team.
1364
00:48:05,050 --> 00:48:07,927
They know all the tricks,
and we wasn't ready yet.
1365
00:48:09,596 --> 00:48:11,723
Third year,
we got Horace Grant.
1366
00:48:11,806 --> 00:48:13,350
- One last time, Horace Grant.
1367
00:48:13,433 --> 00:48:14,559
- We were confidence.
1368
00:48:14,643 --> 00:48:16,936
Penny was an all-star.
I was an all-star.
1369
00:48:17,020 --> 00:48:18,521
Everything was flowin' great.
1370
00:48:18,605 --> 00:48:20,982
And then you go up against
the great Michael Jordan.
1371
00:48:21,066 --> 00:48:23,693
- It came
in a two-word statement,
1372
00:48:23,777 --> 00:48:24,861
"I'm back."
1373
00:48:24,944 --> 00:48:26,655
That was really all
Jordan needed to say
1374
00:48:26,738 --> 00:48:29,658
as his 17-month retirement
came to an end.
1375
00:48:29,741 --> 00:48:32,661
- The young student
must kill the master
1376
00:48:32,744 --> 00:48:34,704
to become the master.
1377
00:48:34,788 --> 00:48:36,873
Mike is the man.
1378
00:48:36,956 --> 00:48:38,667
He left, he comes back.
1379
00:48:38,750 --> 00:48:41,044
I don't care
if it's Michael on the court.
1380
00:48:41,127 --> 00:48:42,545
[dramatic music]
1381
00:48:42,629 --> 00:48:43,880
- I knew for us
to get over the hump,
1382
00:48:43,963 --> 00:48:45,757
we were gonna have to go
through the Bulls,
1383
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,051
the team that won
three championships in a row.
1384
00:48:48,134 --> 00:48:49,219
But we knew
the competitive nature
1385
00:48:49,302 --> 00:48:51,888
of Michael Jordan
and Scottie Pippen.
1386
00:48:51,971 --> 00:48:53,264
We were the young guns.
1387
00:48:53,348 --> 00:48:54,933
♪ ♪
1388
00:48:55,016 --> 00:48:56,393
We weren't really caring
about any of that.
1389
00:48:56,476 --> 00:48:57,686
We just knew
that we had to go ball.
1390
00:48:57,769 --> 00:48:59,020
- Shaquille O'Neal
over Michael.
1391
00:48:59,104 --> 00:49:00,730
That's another three
for Anfernee Hardaway.
1392
00:49:00,814 --> 00:49:01,731
- And that's what we did.
1393
00:49:01,815 --> 00:49:03,692
- ♪ I turn to a savage
and a beast ♪
1394
00:49:03,775 --> 00:49:05,860
- And there's Shaq.
- Shaquille.
1395
00:49:05,944 --> 00:49:06,820
- Backs him all the way
1396
00:49:06,903 --> 00:49:08,655
and goes up
and dunks the ball.
1397
00:49:08,738 --> 00:49:10,490
- Had some problems
at the end of the year.
1398
00:49:10,573 --> 00:49:12,867
That's Hardaway
with the reverse.
1399
00:49:12,951 --> 00:49:14,244
- Jordan hard to the hoop.
1400
00:49:14,327 --> 00:49:15,912
The reverse from Michael!
1401
00:49:15,995 --> 00:49:17,330
- Shaquille down low.
1402
00:49:17,414 --> 00:49:20,041
Ran the double team.
Hardaway hammer time.
1403
00:49:20,125 --> 00:49:22,377
- Pippen driving,
stripped by O'Neal.
1404
00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:23,795
O'Neal dunks the ball.
1405
00:49:23,878 --> 00:49:24,838
- It's all over.
1406
00:49:24,921 --> 00:49:26,798
And the Bulls' season
comes to an end
1407
00:49:26,881 --> 00:49:29,092
here at the United Center,
and the Orlando Magic,
1408
00:49:29,175 --> 00:49:30,593
the number one team...
- It was like winning
1409
00:49:30,677 --> 00:49:32,679
the respect battle.
1410
00:49:32,762 --> 00:49:34,764
It was winning
the barbershop news.
1411
00:49:34,848 --> 00:49:37,267
And that
was the bragging rights.
1412
00:49:37,350 --> 00:49:40,729
For that weekend, that day,
we kicked the Bulls' butt.
1413
00:49:40,812 --> 00:49:42,981
- Now, just think about it.
You just beat Michael Jordan.
1414
00:49:43,064 --> 00:49:44,399
Who else is left?
1415
00:49:44,482 --> 00:49:46,943
Ain't nobody else left
in the league.
1416
00:49:47,026 --> 00:49:48,528
- We weren't worried
about playing
1417
00:49:48,611 --> 00:49:51,906
the Indiana Pacers in
the Eastern Conference final.
1418
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:54,367
- The crowd's
standing and cheering,
1419
00:49:54,451 --> 00:49:56,035
and they may not sit down
till Wednesday.
1420
00:49:56,119 --> 00:49:57,412
- We have
about six, seven days off.
1421
00:49:57,495 --> 00:49:58,580
We partyin'.
1422
00:49:58,663 --> 00:50:01,374
Me and D Scott,
we in Atlanta at Magic City.
1423
00:50:01,458 --> 00:50:02,459
We did a rap song.
1424
00:50:02,542 --> 00:50:05,295
- ♪ Just a little bit
of magic tonight ♪
1425
00:50:05,378 --> 00:50:06,588
B Shaw, myself.
1426
00:50:06,671 --> 00:50:07,756
♪ Everything's gonna be
all right ♪
1427
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:09,174
Then Penny came by,
but Penny didn't really rap.
1428
00:50:09,257 --> 00:50:10,300
He was just there.
1429
00:50:10,383 --> 00:50:13,178
We were the Showtime
of the South.
1430
00:50:13,261 --> 00:50:16,598
And we wanted to say,
"Hey, we know we're good."
1431
00:50:16,681 --> 00:50:20,310
So game one of the finals,
1432
00:50:20,393 --> 00:50:21,436
we're rollin'.
1433
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:22,479
I'm hittin' threes.
1434
00:50:22,562 --> 00:50:24,731
Shaq's dunkin'.
Penny's doing his thing.
1435
00:50:24,814 --> 00:50:25,815
- We was up the whole game.
1436
00:50:25,899 --> 00:50:29,486
And, like, they come back
and they go crazy.
1437
00:50:29,569 --> 00:50:31,613
And Nick Anderson,
he has the chance
1438
00:50:31,696 --> 00:50:33,072
to make two free throws.
1439
00:50:33,156 --> 00:50:34,616
He misses,
1440
00:50:34,699 --> 00:50:36,826
gets his own rebound,
gets fouled again.
1441
00:50:36,910 --> 00:50:38,787
I'm like, "Bro, just hit
these two free throws
1442
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:40,455
"so we can get this
little lead, get it stopped.
1443
00:50:40,538 --> 00:50:41,831
We gonna win the first game."
1444
00:50:41,915 --> 00:50:44,584
- Well, the three
to make four rule, that's...
1445
00:50:44,667 --> 00:50:46,294
[chuckles] That's...
- And then Nick misses
1446
00:50:46,377 --> 00:50:47,337
those free throws.
1447
00:50:47,420 --> 00:50:49,339
- And he misses four straight.
1448
00:50:49,422 --> 00:50:51,841
The Rockets...
- We lose our mojo.
1449
00:50:51,925 --> 00:50:54,677
Tide changes. Hakeem gets hot.
1450
00:50:54,761 --> 00:50:56,179
Drexler's doing his thing.
1451
00:50:56,262 --> 00:50:57,472
- And then we lost game one.
1452
00:50:57,555 --> 00:50:59,349
- The Houston Rockets
have stunned
1453
00:50:59,432 --> 00:51:01,810
the Orlando Magic.
- Now we're worried.
1454
00:51:01,893 --> 00:51:03,895
The problem
with the finals is,
1455
00:51:03,978 --> 00:51:05,730
I was going up
against one of my idols
1456
00:51:05,814 --> 00:51:07,148
and I showed him
too much respect.
1457
00:51:07,232 --> 00:51:08,650
[crowd cheering]
1458
00:51:08,733 --> 00:51:11,986
Now we come into game two,
and they blow us out.
1459
00:51:12,070 --> 00:51:14,614
We go to game three
in Houston, and we lose.
1460
00:51:14,697 --> 00:51:16,991
[cheers and applause]
1461
00:51:17,075 --> 00:51:18,493
We go to game four...
1462
00:51:18,576 --> 00:51:21,496
[crowd cheering]
1463
00:51:21,579 --> 00:51:23,164
They blow us out.
1464
00:51:23,248 --> 00:51:24,833
- The Houston Rockets
1465
00:51:24,916 --> 00:51:28,586
have swept the Orlando Magic.
1466
00:51:29,546 --> 00:51:32,882
- We were still young
and naive.
1467
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:36,386
Did we say all
the right things in practice?
1468
00:51:36,469 --> 00:51:38,596
Did we do all the right things
in practice?
1469
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,348
Did we come out and play hard?
1470
00:51:40,431 --> 00:51:42,559
We did! We tried.
1471
00:51:45,186 --> 00:51:46,813
That is...
1472
00:51:52,193 --> 00:51:54,320
That is my saddest moment...
1473
00:51:56,781 --> 00:51:58,491
To be honest with you.
1474
00:52:01,744 --> 00:52:03,663
Because we never...
1475
00:52:06,749 --> 00:52:09,335
Got it back.
1476
00:52:09,419 --> 00:52:12,255
[upbeat music]
1477
00:52:12,338 --> 00:52:14,465
- I'm walking down the street
in Chicago.
1478
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:16,342
This lady comes up to me
and says,
1479
00:52:16,426 --> 00:52:17,760
"You shouldn't do that
to your father.
1480
00:52:17,844 --> 00:52:19,721
You should give him
a second chance."
1481
00:52:19,804 --> 00:52:22,056
I'm like,
"What are you talking about?"
1482
00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:24,934
- Can you imagine losing
contact with your son
1483
00:52:25,018 --> 00:52:26,477
and being able
to hear about him
1484
00:52:26,561 --> 00:52:27,896
only through the press?
1485
00:52:27,979 --> 00:52:29,397
- And then I get home.
I called my mom.
1486
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,858
I said, "Mommy, look,
did Daddy do something?"
1487
00:52:31,941 --> 00:52:34,235
And she's...
"No.
1488
00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:37,155
But Joe Toney done went
on the 'Ricki Lake' show."
1489
00:52:37,238 --> 00:52:39,490
I'm like, "What? Who?"
1490
00:52:39,574 --> 00:52:41,951
- Joe Toney is
Shaquille O'Neal's birth father
1491
00:52:42,035 --> 00:52:44,621
and hasn't spoken to him
in over a decade.
1492
00:52:44,704 --> 00:52:46,247
He says no matter how hard
he has tried
1493
00:52:46,331 --> 00:52:47,582
to contact Shaquille,
1494
00:52:47,665 --> 00:52:50,335
his requests to see his son
have been turned down.
1495
00:52:50,418 --> 00:52:52,837
- Basically,
when Shaquille was born,
1496
00:52:52,921 --> 00:52:55,632
I got in trouble.
I was involved with drugs.
1497
00:52:55,715 --> 00:52:57,800
And when he was six months old,
I got locked up.
1498
00:52:57,884 --> 00:52:59,469
I went to prison
for five years.
1499
00:52:59,552 --> 00:53:00,637
When I came back from prison,
1500
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:02,639
she had married
this gentleman in the service
1501
00:53:02,722 --> 00:53:04,223
and they moved to Germany.
1502
00:53:04,307 --> 00:53:06,476
They gave me a bogus address
1503
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,645
at which to get in touch
with them which didn't work.
1504
00:53:08,728 --> 00:53:09,938
But like I said, I just want
to get the message...
1505
00:53:10,021 --> 00:53:11,773
I just want a few minutes
of his time.
1506
00:53:11,856 --> 00:53:14,943
- I can almost believe
that he heard about Shaquille
1507
00:53:15,026 --> 00:53:17,987
from the time he was becoming
national news.
1508
00:53:18,071 --> 00:53:22,033
And it probably was burning
in him...he missed everything.
1509
00:53:22,116 --> 00:53:24,619
But Shaquille didn't care.
1510
00:53:24,702 --> 00:53:26,120
He wrote a song about Phil.
1511
00:53:26,204 --> 00:53:28,623
He said, "He took me
from a boy to a man.
1512
00:53:28,706 --> 00:53:29,791
"And Phil is my father
1513
00:53:29,874 --> 00:53:32,335
'cause my biological
didn't bother."
1514
00:53:32,418 --> 00:53:34,170
- ♪ Took me from a boy
to a man ♪
1515
00:53:34,253 --> 00:53:36,005
"Oh, I just want to see him.
1516
00:53:36,089 --> 00:53:37,423
I want to do this.
I want to do that."
1517
00:53:37,507 --> 00:53:39,384
But in my mind, it's,
1518
00:53:39,467 --> 00:53:42,011
"When I was trying to get
some shoes, where were you?"
1519
00:53:42,095 --> 00:53:43,680
My mom always told me,
"Hey, beware.
1520
00:53:43,763 --> 00:53:46,516
Once you get this money,
everybody comin'."
1521
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:47,850
And he was the first one.
1522
00:53:47,934 --> 00:53:49,352
♪ Biological didn't bother ♪
1523
00:53:49,435 --> 00:53:51,437
♪ Bother, bother, bother ♪
1524
00:53:51,521 --> 00:53:55,316
That year,
Penny redid his contract.
1525
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,485
He sat out a couple games.
1526
00:53:57,568 --> 00:54:01,239
Wanted more money than me,
which is fine.
1527
00:54:01,322 --> 00:54:03,700
'Cause one thing I understood
was marketing and business.
1528
00:54:03,783 --> 00:54:06,869
You pay him $30 million,
you gotta pay me $60 million.
1529
00:54:06,953 --> 00:54:08,538
- It was never
in the negotiations
1530
00:54:08,621 --> 00:54:09,664
where I was saying
I need to make more
1531
00:54:09,747 --> 00:54:11,833
than anybody on the team,
Shaq or anyone.
1532
00:54:11,916 --> 00:54:13,084
I just wanted my worth.
1533
00:54:13,167 --> 00:54:16,087
- I create jealousies
for myself.
1534
00:54:16,170 --> 00:54:19,424
If you have something,
internally, I say I want it.
1535
00:54:19,507 --> 00:54:21,050
And then I just gotta
go get it.
1536
00:54:21,134 --> 00:54:23,011
- And then
with his tenth three-pointer,
1537
00:54:23,094 --> 00:54:25,096
a new NBA record...
1538
00:54:25,179 --> 00:54:28,224
- I knew that Shaq has to get
the first shot.
1539
00:54:28,307 --> 00:54:30,977
If you didn't understand that
about him,
1540
00:54:31,060 --> 00:54:33,938
then that's where
you were gonna have problems.
1541
00:54:34,022 --> 00:54:35,898
Being the biggest guy
in the room,
1542
00:54:35,982 --> 00:54:39,027
he wants the biggest
and the most of everything.
1543
00:54:39,110 --> 00:54:41,195
That's for his own ego.
1544
00:54:41,279 --> 00:54:44,532
Our team was young,
pretty immature.
1545
00:54:44,615 --> 00:54:46,659
I think that
that slowly started to affect
1546
00:54:46,743 --> 00:54:49,203
the camaraderie or lack of it.
1547
00:54:49,287 --> 00:54:51,998
- That's the first part
of destroying a franchise,
1548
00:54:52,081 --> 00:54:53,666
destroying a team,
1549
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:56,169
because your two best players
need to be on the same page.
1550
00:54:56,252 --> 00:54:58,171
Like, he was upset
that I was getting
1551
00:54:58,254 --> 00:54:59,797
more money
or the same amount of money
1552
00:54:59,881 --> 00:55:01,883
or that he deserved more.
1553
00:55:01,966 --> 00:55:03,676
But I felt like he was the man
1554
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,721
and that they were gonna do
for him what needed to be done.
1555
00:55:06,804 --> 00:55:09,265
- We came back next year.
We're rollin'.
1556
00:55:09,348 --> 00:55:12,769
But it wasn't
that same feeling.
1557
00:55:12,852 --> 00:55:16,272
Is Shaq stayin' now?
Is Shaq leavin'?
1558
00:55:16,355 --> 00:55:18,066
Is he gettin' a contract?
1559
00:55:18,149 --> 00:55:20,276
Everything changed.
1560
00:55:21,944 --> 00:55:23,071
[buzzer blares]
1561
00:55:23,154 --> 00:55:25,239
- A look
at the starting lineups.
1562
00:55:25,323 --> 00:55:28,284
The Magic will start
without Shaquille O'Neal.
1563
00:55:28,367 --> 00:55:31,329
- Well, in 1996,
my grandmother died.
1564
00:55:31,412 --> 00:55:33,081
After the funeral,
I just needed a couple days
1565
00:55:33,164 --> 00:55:34,957
to just relax.
1566
00:55:35,041 --> 00:55:36,584
But they callin' me,
"We're playin' the Bulls.
1567
00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:38,795
Come, come, come."
Like, "No, I'm not comin'."
1568
00:55:38,878 --> 00:55:42,340
That's more important to them
than my family.
1569
00:55:42,423 --> 00:55:43,966
A damn game.
1570
00:55:44,050 --> 00:55:47,136
- Here comes Shaquille O'Neal.
1571
00:55:47,220 --> 00:55:48,971
With a sense of drama,
1572
00:55:49,055 --> 00:55:52,517
Shaquille O'Neal just arrived
at the arena.
1573
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,812
He is hustling back
to the Orlando locker room
1574
00:55:55,895 --> 00:55:58,981
and, obviously, will try
to get himself into uniform
1575
00:55:59,065 --> 00:56:01,109
and will be appearing
on the bench.
1576
00:56:01,192 --> 00:56:04,862
- So I come in the middle.
We lose.
1577
00:56:04,946 --> 00:56:06,989
And I do something
I wasn't supposed to do.
1578
00:56:07,073 --> 00:56:09,200
I go upstairs and say,
1579
00:56:09,283 --> 00:56:11,744
"We startin' off
at $115 million."
1580
00:56:11,828 --> 00:56:14,622
They, whoever they may be,
did a poll.
1581
00:56:14,705 --> 00:56:17,458
"Is Shaq worth $115 million?"
1582
00:56:17,542 --> 00:56:19,293
And the town said no.
1583
00:56:19,377 --> 00:56:20,670
- Well, I just think
if Shaq is as good
1584
00:56:20,753 --> 00:56:22,547
as he thinks he is,
why do they ever have
1585
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:24,507
25, 30 rebounds in a game?
1586
00:56:24,590 --> 00:56:26,425
Why didn't he step up
in the fourth quarter?
1587
00:56:26,509 --> 00:56:28,010
You know, he was...
- Shaquille O'Neal,
1588
00:56:28,094 --> 00:56:30,847
who's already a millionaire
and has a mansion,
1589
00:56:30,930 --> 00:56:32,473
how much more does he need?
1590
00:56:32,557 --> 00:56:34,600
- How dare you ask
the community
1591
00:56:34,684 --> 00:56:35,852
should he be paid that much?
1592
00:56:35,935 --> 00:56:36,978
You know better.
1593
00:56:37,061 --> 00:56:38,187
Or maybe you don't.
1594
00:56:38,271 --> 00:56:40,148
- I just think that the man
didn't want to play
1595
00:56:40,231 --> 00:56:42,108
for the Magic anymore
because he wasn't
1596
00:56:42,191 --> 00:56:45,153
the main man anymore
because we got Penny.
1597
00:56:45,236 --> 00:56:47,822
- It reminded me of Snoop Dogg
at the Source Awards.
1598
00:56:47,905 --> 00:56:49,991
- The East Coast don't love
Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg?
1599
00:56:50,074 --> 00:56:52,827
- Orlando Magic, y'all
don't love Shaquille O'Neal?
1600
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:54,162
- Y'all don't love us?
- Y'all don't love me?
1601
00:56:54,245 --> 00:56:56,873
- Shaq wanted to stay
with the Orlando Magic.
1602
00:56:56,956 --> 00:56:58,457
He was a small-town guy.
1603
00:56:58,541 --> 00:56:59,917
Instead of offering
1604
00:57:00,001 --> 00:57:03,713
the most dominant player
in basketball a max deal,
1605
00:57:03,796 --> 00:57:07,133
they started playing around
trying to negotiate with him.
1606
00:57:07,216 --> 00:57:10,887
It really made him feel
disrespected.
1607
00:57:10,970 --> 00:57:13,890
- There's no loyalty
in any game.
1608
00:57:13,973 --> 00:57:16,559
So get a call from my guy.
1609
00:57:16,642 --> 00:57:18,394
He said, "They offered you
$80 million for four.
1610
00:57:18,477 --> 00:57:21,063
I'm like, "That's cool.
I could take that."
1611
00:57:21,147 --> 00:57:24,108
Basketball gods or something
said, "Don't do it."
1612
00:57:26,652 --> 00:57:27,820
- How much he get?
1613
00:57:29,405 --> 00:57:30,364
- Congratulations, Zo.
1614
00:57:30,448 --> 00:57:32,533
Man, I'm just, you know,
hoping to get
1615
00:57:32,617 --> 00:57:33,868
a pretty good deal.
1616
00:57:33,951 --> 00:57:37,622
The Miami Heat signed Juwan
for $110 million
1617
00:57:37,705 --> 00:57:39,957
and Alonzo for $115 million.
1618
00:57:40,041 --> 00:57:42,710
And I'm like,
"I done killed both of them
1619
00:57:42,793 --> 00:57:44,253
their whole career."
1620
00:57:44,337 --> 00:57:45,713
- Oh! Oh, what a dunk.
1621
00:57:45,796 --> 00:57:48,841
- If a top-of-the-line BMW
costs $110 million,
1622
00:57:48,925 --> 00:57:50,927
what does a top-of-the-line
Mercedes cost?
1623
00:57:51,010 --> 00:57:52,428
Much more.
1624
00:57:52,511 --> 00:57:54,597
So then we're in the Olympics.
We're trainin'.
1625
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,390
Uncle Jerome and I were out...
1626
00:57:56,474 --> 00:57:58,226
at a gentleman's club,
I may add.
1627
00:57:58,309 --> 00:58:01,020
- I remember he got a call
from his agent at the time
1628
00:58:01,103 --> 00:58:02,271
that we had to meet him.
1629
00:58:02,355 --> 00:58:04,065
It was, like,
early in the morning.
1630
00:58:04,148 --> 00:58:05,608
When we get there,
1631
00:58:05,691 --> 00:58:08,444
his agent is there
and Mr. West is there.
1632
00:58:08,527 --> 00:58:10,112
- And then he was like,
"Jerry, tell him."
1633
00:58:10,196 --> 00:58:12,990
And Jerry says,
"We got some good news
1634
00:58:13,074 --> 00:58:14,116
and I got some bad news."
1635
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,451
And I said,
"What's the bad news?"
1636
00:58:15,534 --> 00:58:17,453
He said, "I can't get you
that $115 million."
1637
00:58:17,536 --> 00:58:18,579
I said,
"What's the good news?"
1638
00:58:18,663 --> 00:58:20,456
"I can get you
to $120 million."
1639
00:58:20,539 --> 00:58:21,624
I was like...
1640
00:58:21,707 --> 00:58:24,252
- As a basketball player,
I cried.
1641
00:58:24,335 --> 00:58:27,797
Shaq on the floor
makes life easier
1642
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,216
because he's that dominant.
1643
00:58:30,299 --> 00:58:31,968
- I didn't know
that he was leaving Orlando
1644
00:58:32,051 --> 00:58:35,596
until I saw
the actual press conference
1645
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,473
with him holding
a Laker jersey
1646
00:58:37,556 --> 00:58:39,058
with Jerry West.
1647
00:58:39,141 --> 00:58:40,851
- Didn't communicate at all.
1648
00:58:40,935 --> 00:58:43,187
Not one time
did we call each other
1649
00:58:43,271 --> 00:58:45,648
and talk to each other
and talk it out.
1650
00:58:45,731 --> 00:58:47,149
- Penny didn't even know.
1651
00:58:47,233 --> 00:58:49,402
But all I really wanted
was for Penny to go
1652
00:58:49,485 --> 00:58:51,445
to the Orlando and say,
"Pay Shaq.
1653
00:58:51,529 --> 00:58:53,114
"Shaq stuck up for me.
Now I'm stickin' up for him.
1654
00:58:53,197 --> 00:58:55,074
Pay him."
But he never did that.
1655
00:58:55,157 --> 00:58:58,119
So in my mind, I was like,
"Okay, you want to be the man?
1656
00:58:58,202 --> 00:58:59,370
There you go."
1657
00:58:59,453 --> 00:59:01,289
In case you haven't
figured it out yet,
1658
00:59:01,372 --> 00:59:03,499
I've signed
with the Los Angeles Lakers.
1659
00:59:03,582 --> 00:59:06,127
Keep in mind
the word "change."
1660
00:59:06,210 --> 00:59:08,504
To me, change is for the good.
1661
00:59:08,587 --> 00:59:11,674
And right when I'm signin',
Jerry West says to me,
1662
00:59:11,757 --> 00:59:13,509
"In a couple years,
you're gonna be
1663
00:59:13,592 --> 00:59:15,219
"one of the best
basketball players
1664
00:59:15,303 --> 00:59:16,971
ever to play the game."
1665
00:59:17,054 --> 00:59:19,098
Pause. I was like,
"You know what?
1666
00:59:19,181 --> 00:59:20,683
You might be right."
1667
00:59:20,766 --> 00:59:22,727
[gears rumbling]
1668
01:00:52,817 --> 01:00:55,361
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