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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,280 The world knows I'm a bullshitter. 2 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,456 Like, sometimes when you're telling a story 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,280 you want to add a little barbecue sauce. 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:19,480 I don't want to go 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,560 "I walked to the store and bought a loaf of bread." 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,376 Like, right, that's the gist of the story 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,560 but as I was walking to a store 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,120 a dog started chasing me and I ran up the tree. 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,600 The branch broke. I landed on my back. 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,696 And then when I land I thought the dog was gonna bite me 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,080 but he licked me in the face. 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,656 And then the lady came out and, "Oh, my God, she was beautiful. 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,216 And she was single. And now we're married." 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,240 Like, you just have to... 15 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,760 I'm not lying. I just like to add a little... 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,080 you know. 17 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,920 DJ Diesel, White Guy Classics... White Guy Classics. 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,880 That's how we did it in high school. 19 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Yeah. 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,000 Yeah, that's how we did it. 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,120 Meet Shaquille O'Neal. 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,480 Averaging 47 points a game 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,960 Shaquille's a man among boys on the court. 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,720 That's a seven-footer! Are you serious? 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,880 LSU's Shaquille O'Neal is already being heralded 26 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:25,840 as one of the top centers in the universe. 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,240 Square off, and they're brawling. 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,680 The Orlando Magic selects Shaquille O'Neal 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,560 from Louisiana State University. 30 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,240 He brought the whole thing down! 31 00:01:35,320 --> 00:01:37,480 I would like to present to Shaquille O'Neal 32 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,760 the Most Valuable Rookie of the Year award. 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,360 And the young Orlando Magic have come here to win in Chicago. 34 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,120 They have swept the Orlando Magic! 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Shaq signed the largest deal in sports history 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,040 with the Los Angeles Lakers. 37 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,840 NBA MVP Shaquille O'Neal. 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,360 I'm-a bring the championship to Miami, I promise. 39 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,160 Congratulations, Miami. 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,880 Give it up to the greatest big man to ever play the game. 41 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,840 Can you dig it? 42 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,360 My mother comes from a very religious family. 43 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,320 So after I was born, we were outcasted. 44 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Well, it was 1970s. 45 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,560 And a lot of the young women 46 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:21,840 were looking for unique names 47 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:23,040 for their children. 48 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,680 And I wanted him to have a name 49 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,760 that really spoke to who he was. 50 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,560 So we looked into a book of Islamic names. 51 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,040 Shaquille, meaning little one... 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,040 Rashaun, meaning warrior... 53 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,080 and you know our last name, O'Neal. 54 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,960 Shaquille Rashaun O'Neal. 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,600 She brought me home to my grandmother's house. 56 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,640 And it was like she saw a ray of light. 57 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,440 'Cause I'm-a tell you about the elderly women in my family. 58 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,080 All the stuff that's happened to me now? 59 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:49,160 They knew. 60 00:02:49,640 --> 00:02:50,640 They knew. 61 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,000 They would always say... 62 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,640 Something special about that one. 63 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,600 {\an5}It was something, something special. 64 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,160 We lived in a time where we had civil unrest. 65 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,440 A lot of things were a black-and-white issue. 66 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,120 And there was just stress outside of the home. 67 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,880 So laughter was one of the ways that we came together 68 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,760 and just really enjoyed being together. 69 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:11,960 And it made for a big, happy family. 70 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,640 We call him Daddy Shaq sometimes 71 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,960 'cause he was the oldest, and so he was the bossy one. 72 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,080 And then we had Lateefah. 73 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,400 She's the sensitive one. 74 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:19,680 And then we had Ayesha. 75 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,280 She was the one that was full of joy 76 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:22,520 and full of laughter. 77 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:23,880 And we got Jamal. 78 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,960 He took on a piece 79 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,720 of everybody else's personality. 80 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:27,800 And then Phil 81 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,840 being that strong disciplinarian. 82 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:31,640 {\an5}And then here I am, I'm the peacemaker. 83 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,520 So we had a good time with our family. 84 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:36,640 Tell me about your service in the military. 85 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,560 Well, I'm stationed at Fort Sam Houston, Texas 86 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:39,640 in San Antonio. 87 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,080 I'm a supply sergeant there. 88 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,480 I'm assigned to the Academy of Health Science. 89 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,656 Looks like you've seen quite a bit of service too. 90 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,680 Oh, I've been there for eighteen and a half years. 91 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,120 I remember playing ball with his dad. 92 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,160 We used to play every Sunday. 93 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,520 Phil was just an absolute beast. 94 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,800 He grew up inner-city, where he played sports. 95 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,520 And then he was a military man. 96 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,520 We got married when Shaquille was close to two years old. 97 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,840 So Phil was his father. 98 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,440 And he's the only man and father that Shaquille has ever known. 99 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,440 We were all product of inner-city strength. 100 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,480 Phil made sure that his kids 101 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,200 wouldn't follow that same pattern. 102 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:17,760 Oh, it was a lot of love 103 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:18,840 a lot of discipline. 104 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,000 Like, my dad didn't... 105 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:21,800 he did some talking 106 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,960 but if you didn't listen, if you disobeyed 107 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,000 he'd put the crackdown on us. 108 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,400 He always told me, "I'm-a make you better than I was." 109 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,000 And my dad would always tell us 110 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,480 "Y'all might hate my ways..." 111 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,960 "But you love my results." 112 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,840 You ever heard that one? 113 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,160 The way I got a spankin' 114 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,200 if you're looking on the outside you would bring up the A-word. 115 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:43,360 But he would never come in and just knock me out for no reason. 116 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,120 I used to do a lot of kid stuff. 117 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,280 Then a strange thing happens. 118 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,320 As I'm starting to figure things out 119 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,120 and be more responsible around the house 120 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,520 I realized that my last name is different 121 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,280 from my brother's and sisters'. 122 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,320 So I said, "Mommy, why is my name Shaquille O'Neal 123 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,320 {\an5}and Jamal, Lateefah 124 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,080 {\an5}and Ayesha's last name is Harrison? 125 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,720 We were just told that Shaquille was born 126 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,040 before my mom and dad got married. 127 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,120 He kept the name O'Neal because it just sounded good. 128 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,160 And she said, "Baby, I always wanted to tell you this. 129 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,160 Sarge is not your real father." 130 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,280 What? 131 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,480 I wanted to ensure that he knew the truth. 132 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,560 And I introduced him when he got to an age 133 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:26,760 where he would understand 134 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:29,160 because I didn't want him to hear that from anybody else. 135 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,216 She said, "Would you like to meet your real father?" 136 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,800 "Yeah, I can get away from this motherfucker now 137 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,360 and go live with my other dad." 138 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,320 And we get in the car, and guess where we end up at. 139 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,840 The same projects I was born and raised in. 140 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,560 So we go in this guy's house, Joe Toney 141 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,920 and we're sittin' talkin'. 142 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,400 But I'm lookin' around like... 143 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:49,480 "I'm not comin' back to this shit." 144 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,160 He didn't care. 145 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,200 He's like, "Okay." 146 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:57,000 This guy at two years old when you married him 147 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,920 and I look at him and all the spankings I took? 148 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,560 This is my daddy. 149 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,400 The power of love is great. 150 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,400 We had so much love growing up. 151 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,120 I thought I was rich. 152 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,320 Money was tight but the love was overpowering the money 153 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,160 so we just all had this bond. 154 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,720 Our father had this motto 155 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,440 "If one jump in, we all jump in." 156 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,280 One time, this girl, she hit me in the mouth. 157 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,720 And I ran and told my sister. 158 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,200 So I just immediately went and hit her. 159 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:29,680 Her sister came from the side and blindsided me 160 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,400 so I fell on my back. 161 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,440 So Shaquille grabbed the sister by the collar 162 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,320 and he took Ayesha, our younger sister's hand 163 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,320 and started hitting her upside the face. 164 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,880 And then the brother came down there. 165 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,400 And this is when Shaquille he was, like, all into wrestling 166 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,000 so he picked the brother up 167 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,040 and he did, like, a backbreaker on him 168 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,640 and the guy's all on the floor. 169 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,360 And then the mom came, and she's yelling. 170 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,360 She's like, "Hey!" And then Shaquille's like 171 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,920 "Oh, my God, we gotta go. Let's run." 172 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,360 So he grabbed us all up, and we took off running. 173 00:06:58,440 --> 00:06:59,840 And we get home, then... 174 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,840 knock on the door, and she was like, "Yeah, your kids beat up my kids. 175 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,040 "Your son did some kind of move on my son 176 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,120 and now his back is all hurting." 177 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,720 And my dad was like, "Ooh, I'm-a get y'all. 178 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:14,840 Wait when they leave." 179 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,640 My dad closed the door, and he was like 180 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,400 "That's right! That's what I'm talking about! 181 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,640 One of y'all get in a fight, y'all all get in a fight." 182 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,040 We all looked out for each other. 183 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,240 That's just the way it was. 184 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,680 Shaquille felt like he had to take care of us. 185 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,480 Listen, y'all are number one. 186 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,320 Never, okay, you do you. No, it's not like that. 187 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,600 Around Christmastime, my dad sits me down. 188 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,200 Said, "Look, dawg, you know 189 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,976 when you get married you'll understand this. 190 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,256 You gotta take care of the ladies. 191 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:47,200 You always have to protect provide, and love for the ladies. 192 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,416 You know, I know you want the big boom box and all that 193 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,720 but I can't get that right now. 194 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:51,976 Next payday, I'll get it for you.' 195 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,200 No, that's cool. 196 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,840 'Cause I'm all about family. 197 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,320 And if I come in the house 198 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,320 and see everybody smiling, I don't need nothing. 199 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,520 I'm asleep in the room not asleep, just fake sleep. 200 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,720 So I hear everybody opening up their stuff 201 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,000 and I'm just laying there. 202 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,200 And something hit me in the stomach. 203 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,600 And I look, and it was an autographed 204 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,200 fake autograph... but it was an autographed Dr. J ball. 205 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,256 And then I look on the ground, and there was a little boom box. 206 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,280 It wasn't no big one. 207 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,800 And he's like, "I appreciate you, big man." 208 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,240 "No, I appreciate you, sir." 209 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,680 That was the best Christmas ever. 210 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,240 I think what carries him is the love and the support 211 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,840 that he always got from Phil. 212 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,176 He didn't understand it at first. 213 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,240 He said, "Well, why did I get so many whuppings?" 214 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,600 I said, "Because you needed to be disciplined. 215 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:39,800 You needed to be taught 216 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,960 and sometimes that was the only way to get your attention." 217 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,400 But he had to realize that it was for his good. 218 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:47,960 You don't always understand why. 219 00:08:48,680 --> 00:08:50,480 But you appreciate it when you get older 220 00:08:50,560 --> 00:08:51,960 because had it gone a different way 221 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,120 he may not be the man that he is today. 222 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:57,760 I had three escapes. 223 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,800 After I'd get whupped and get done cryin' 224 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,840 it was like God gave me a certain remote. 225 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,040 You know those old TVs where you had to turn? 226 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,400 When it would go out, you'd have to hit it on the side? 227 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,760 'Cause Good Times is coming on. 228 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:10,960 Hello. 229 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,320 After Good Times, here comes Sanford and Son. 230 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:14,800 Son, you worthless. 231 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,360 After Sanford and Son, here comes The Jeffersons. 232 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,440 Every night. 233 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,640 But then the movie that changed my life 234 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,480 called Fish That Saved Pittsburgh. 235 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,600 And the movie's about a young guy. 236 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:30,200 He had to find Dr. J to get him to play in this game. 237 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,440 And then my father knew the love I had for the movie. 238 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,640 He said, "Son, if you pass the next grade 239 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,520 I'll take you to see Dr. J." 240 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,360 "Him? He's real?" 241 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,680 So I'm busting my ass in school, boom... 242 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,080 Not an A, B guy. Cs. 243 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,840 And then one day, I'm sittin' in the room 244 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,200 and it was just me and him. 245 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,000 He said, "Let's take a ride." 246 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,760 We get in our little Toyota Corolla. 247 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,880 Toyota... 248 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,880 We pull up to Madison Square Garden 249 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,440 and we go way to the top. 250 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,760 And then finally when I look down Dr. J goes baseline. 251 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,000 Dunks. Crowd go cra... 252 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,200 It was like some spirits just entered my body. 253 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,256 And I just immediately turned to my father. 254 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,480 I said, "Sir, I know what I want to be when I grow up." 255 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:13,080 In his words, "If you listen to me 256 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,440 I'll make you one of the best basketball players ever." 257 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,840 {\an5}The pituitary gland begins to secrete 258 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,400 the growth hormone. 259 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,480 The boy grows rapidly in height, weight, and strength. 260 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:27,320 But the rapid growth of his muscles 261 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,600 gives him a great need for activity. 262 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:32,440 And this may express itself in many ways. 263 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,480 My grandfather was seven foot before we even realized 264 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:37,280 that that was something kind of special. 265 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,560 And I didn't realize that I would ever have children 266 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,160 that would grow up to be tall and handsome like that. 267 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,040 Shaquille always grew a height above 268 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,840 or maybe a few pounds above his peers. 269 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,440 I seen my mother knock a bus driver out one time. 270 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,440 Five and under can ride free. 271 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,240 And I'm three, four, but I'm a big kid. 272 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,640 And the guy's tellin' my mama 273 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,960 "If he's five, he must be retarded or something." 274 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,120 And my mom hit him with that bing-bing. 275 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,160 Well, I had to, because they'd make it seem 276 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,320 like it was something really wrong with that. 277 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,120 But we learned so much. And we let him know that it's okay. 278 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,576 He didn't want to be different. 279 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,520 He wanted to be the same height the same size as all of his peers. 280 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,760 But he wasn't, so he had to accept that fact, the reality. 281 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,040 That was his life. 282 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,400 You either was gonna get the clown Shaquille 283 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,480 or you was gonna get the bully Shaquille. 284 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,040 There wasn't no middle. 285 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,560 See, being big 286 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,640 a lot of people thought I was a holdback. 287 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,880 But actually, I skipped first grade so which means I was ahead. 288 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,800 You know, you're 11? 289 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,560 How are you 11 and you're 6'4? 290 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,160 You must be stupid or something. 291 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,200 So now I'm like, "What'd you just say? 292 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,880 Three o'clock. Outside in the back. 293 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,480 But because of Good Times, Sanford and Son 294 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:50,880 Jeffersons, I love to laugh. 295 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,360 I didn't want to fight every day. 296 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,960 Let's laugh. Let's joke around. 297 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,520 Let's make spit wads and throw them at the teacher 298 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:00,880 and let's have fun. 299 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,160 It was a way of being accepted. 300 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,800 Didn't want to be looked at as the tall kid 301 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,840 who, by the way, was terrible at sports. 302 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,560 Who taught him how to play basketball? 303 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,000 You know, it's hard to say. 304 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,800 Phil taught him a lot about basketball 305 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,480 'cause he began coaching him when he was six years old. 306 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:20,200 Now, I played basketball too 307 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:21,880 so I taught him a trick or two. 308 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,000 So when I first started to play 309 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,200 my father was like, agh. 310 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:30,320 He's not like, Here you go. Like, he... and I'd go like this. 311 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,536 So I can remember one day, he said 312 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:34,120 "Put your hands on your side and don't move." 313 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:35,600 And he threw it. I moved. 314 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:37,240 "What the f... didn't I say don't move?" 315 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,120 So now I've gotta put my hands on my side 316 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,720 and chest pass right to the face. 317 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,160 Boom. 318 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,160 Like, see? I was, like... 319 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,776 The point he was trying to make... stop being scared of the ball. 320 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,480 'Cause even if you get hit, this is how it's gonna feel. 321 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:52,800 I ain't gonna kill you. 322 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,360 So after that, my hands became impeccable. 323 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,360 Now it's time to put me on the team and coach me. 324 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,120 I had two moves. 325 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,360 Catch it, look left, look right, and dribble, off the glass. 326 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,480 And I can remember a story, we were in Bayonne, New Jersey. 327 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:08,736 I'm not really that good. I'm just bigger than everybody. 328 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,960 And I can remember this guy storm on the basketball court 329 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,200 grab his son. 330 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,320 This is what he says 331 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,640 "No way that motherfucker's ten years old. 332 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,280 "If that motherfucker is ten years old 333 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,936 he's gonna be one of the best NBA players 334 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,200 to ever fuckin' play the game." 335 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,960 And he walks off. He takes his kid, and they forfeit the game. 336 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,080 And my dad's like, "See? See? 337 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,441 If you listen to me, I'm-a make you the best player ever." 338 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,160 I went from the projects of Newark, New Jersey 339 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,200 to down South, Hinesville, Georgia. 340 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,960 First time I seen a whole bunch of white people 341 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,360 at the same time. 342 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,760 First day of school, "What's up, my nigga?" 343 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,520 "Is that white boy supposed to call me that? 344 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,440 Three o'clock. I'm fucking you up at three o'clock." 345 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,600 I gave him the beatdown of his life. 346 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:51,280 He starts having a seizure. 347 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,960 There was a guy who saw that, came, put the pen in his mouth 348 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,680 and saved this kid's life. 349 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,200 Now, if he wasn't there, none of this would be. 350 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,280 The cops come talk to my dad 351 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:07,240 and he spanks me again. 352 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:08,816 He gives me the, "You know what could have happened 353 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,096 if you would have killed this kid?" 354 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,720 So now the bully side is dead. 355 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:16,680 Dead. No way. 356 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,080 'Cause it only takes one mistake. 357 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,840 You can have a million dreams. Only takes one mistake. 358 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,680 At that point in my life 359 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,480 I was dreamin' about being a rapper. 360 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,400 I was dreamin' about being an actor. 361 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,520 I was dreamin' about being rich. 362 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,376 I was dreamin' about being a basketball player. 363 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,720 I was just dreamin'. 364 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,960 And then if all that didn't work, guess what. 365 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,440 I'm joining the army. 366 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,400 'Cause you know why? This is a pretty good life. 367 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,040 Always had plans. 368 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,480 I'm never going to the bottom, ever. 369 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,841 'Cause I've seen the bottom. We just came from the bottom. 370 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,960 This guy Philip Harrison brought us somewhere. 371 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,560 It ain't at the top. I ain't going back to the bottom. 372 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,720 Now when I leave Georgia, we going to a place called Germany. 373 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,960 I'm like, "What's that?" 374 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,440 "Get your ass on the plane!" 375 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:01,760 Cargo plane. 376 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,480 There were rows and rows of military families 377 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,160 going to these different stations in Germany 378 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,120 so we didn't feel so alone. 379 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,640 And I can't say that we weren't ready 380 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,960 but we were a little bit fearful 381 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,600 because we had never been on an airplane before. 382 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,520 And that is a long, long ride. 383 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,920 I'm like, "What the fuck is this?" 384 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Woods. 385 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,480 Wildflecken is on a mountain. 386 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,200 And the base is even smaller. 387 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,960 And now I'm like, "Oh, my God." 388 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,440 And I hate using this word, depression. 389 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,720 It was bad. 390 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,760 But it was a blessing for me 391 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,840 'cause now there's only one thing to do... 392 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,240 play sports. 393 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,640 I go to the base every day. 394 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,080 And there's no kids up there. 395 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,040 I'm only there because my father runs the gym 396 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,840 and I'm not sitting at the house all day. 397 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,800 Get your ass out there and play. 398 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,840 So I play. I'm terrible. 399 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,240 People criticizin' me. I know it. 400 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,440 My father comes in the house one day. 401 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,400 He hits me in the back of the head with a paper. 402 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,000 Says, "College coach comes to Wildflecken 403 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,440 to speak to the troops." 404 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,000 Get your ass up. See if you can get a scholarship. 405 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,320 But before I left, I say "I'm talkin' to a college coach. 406 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,800 Let me sound smart." 407 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:13,960 So I... 408 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,960 Extremities. 409 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,280 Extrem... extrem... extremities. 410 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,016 All right, now, no punches were thrown there. 411 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,360 Lookit, you see Dale Brown push Groves? And then Gro... 412 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,760 It was really by accident 413 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,000 when I first met him 414 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,440 in a place called Wildflecken 415 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:31,520 up in the mountains. 416 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,496 I was at the gym where I was putting on the clinic. 417 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,040 And I'm packing my bag, and I get a tap on the shoulder. 418 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,200 And I turn around, and... 419 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,600 here's this giant of a guy, kind of shy. 420 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:41,760 "Coach Brown," he said 421 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,640 "I'll be trying out for the team." 422 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,360 And he said, "I can't dunk a ball. 423 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,400 "And I run up and down the court about three, four times..." 424 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,080 - "And my lower extremities tire..." - And my lower extremities... 425 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:53,880 I say, "Lower extremities?" 426 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,600 I didn't say that to him, but I'm thinking 427 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,040 "He's a pretty smart guy." 428 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,560 He said, "Can you show me some exercises to improve it?" 429 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,696 "What I'll do, soldier, when I get back to Baton Rouge 430 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,056 is, I'll send you the weight training program." 431 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,600 I said, "How long you been in service?" 432 00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:07,520 And he goes like this, and he goes, "Coach Brown... 433 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,920 I'm only 13 years old." 434 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,440 I said, "What?" 435 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,200 Being the Rhodes Scholar I am 436 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,600 my next question was, "Where's your dad?" 437 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,720 He said, "He's in the sauna." I said, "I'd like to meet him." 438 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,480 So we're heading to the sauna. 439 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,480 I was just putting my hand on the door 440 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:24,720 and the door burst open. 441 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,960 And out, coming, sweating profusely 442 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,640 military-green towel around him... 443 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,400 "That's my dad." 444 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:31,800 This is important. 445 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,040 I handed him my business card, and I said 446 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:36,520 "Sergeant Harrison," I said, "my name's Dale Brown. 447 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,280 I'm the head basketball coach at LSU." 448 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,360 And almost with disdain, "Excuse me, Coach Brown." 449 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,960 He says, "This is all fine and good, basketball." 450 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,480 But he said, "I think it's time" 451 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,880 he said, "our children get degrees 452 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,360 so they can be generals in the army 453 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,480 instead of a sergeant. 454 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,080 They can be presidents of corporations 455 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,160 instead of janitors. 456 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,720 They can be head coaches instead of assistant coaches 457 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,616 running all over the country looking for players. 458 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,560 If you're interested in my son's intellect 459 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,960 we might talk someday." 460 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:04,040 Sends me the program. 461 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:05,480 So I try everything. 462 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,880 And I try out for the team again, but I don't make it. 463 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,720 So I write him a tearful letter. 464 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,160 "Coach, I'm sorry. It didn't work." 465 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,576 - "I did everything..." - "Thank you for the help." 466 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:16,720 "you told me to do..." 467 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:17,976 - "I appreciate it." - "...and my high school coach 468 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,360 cut me off the team. 469 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,000 He told me I'm too slow, I'm too clumsy 470 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,400 I have too big of feet. 471 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,480 I will never be a basketball player. 472 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Why don't I be a goalie in soccer?" 473 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,400 So I sat behind my desk, and I thought 474 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,320 now, what kind of a profound statement 475 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,160 am I gonna make to a 13-year-old child? 476 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,440 "Dear Shaquille 477 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,040 I'm so sorry what happened to you. 478 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:40,080 But I found out in my life when I heard people whispering 479 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,960 He has no father. His mother's on welfare. 480 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,256 He lives in a one-room apartment. 481 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,880 He won't be successful. 482 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,080 If you always sincerely try to do your very best 483 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,600 and only you will know that and you never give up 484 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,120 under any conditions 485 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,960 sooner or later, God'll take care of everything else." 486 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,680 That's why I wanted to go to LSU. 487 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Because before I became this character known as "Shaq" 488 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,440 nobody wanted me. 489 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,880 But Dale Brown looked at me. He chose me. 490 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,520 He put his hand around my shoulders 491 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,960 and saw something in me that I didn't see. 492 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,800 So I was in my office one afternoon 493 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,560 and a tall, skinny kid walked in. 494 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,800 And I knew who it was 495 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,880 but I had never really 496 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,320 introduced myself to him. 497 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,560 And he said, "Coach, I want to try out 498 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,680 for the basketball team." 499 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,880 He said, "If you promise not to cut me 500 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,000 I promise you won't regret it." 501 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,200 And I said, "Okay, we'll see how things go." 502 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,520 Shaquille kind of cut his teeth playing down on the base gym 503 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,120 against 19, 20, 21-year-old soldiers. 504 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,760 His dad, Sergeant Harrison, would take him down, drop him off. 505 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,120 Man, I tell you what, I know at that time 506 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,720 I didn't understand that guy. 507 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,440 He was so hard on Shaquille. He was so... 508 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,256 I think there were times Shaquille was afraid of him 509 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,600 and rightfully so. 510 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,096 I'm not a parent. I don't have kids. 511 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:58,000 It's not my place to say 512 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,080 whether it was too hard or too soft or... 513 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,480 I think the results speak for themselves. 514 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:03,720 Let's just say this 515 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,520 Sarge had one speed... 11. 516 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,960 When I first started with him 517 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,400 Shaquille's brain and his body 518 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,360 is still catching up with his size. 519 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,480 And there were times when he would run 520 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,240 and his bones were going faster than his muscles. 521 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,520 And he... It was very painful for him to run. 522 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,720 And sometimes we'd run conditioning drills. 523 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,800 He would cry. 524 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:26,880 I had something 525 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,360 called Osgood-Schlatter's. 526 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,040 I was growing too fast for my body 527 00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:31,400 and my knees didn't keep up. 528 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,280 And I'd pull him aside and say 529 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:34,656 "Hey, why don't you sit this one out?" 530 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:35,680 He said, "No, Coach. 531 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,440 I'll do what everybody else does." 532 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,160 As a sophomore playing on a team 533 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,960 laden with seniors and a couple of juniors 534 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,040 he kind of got picked on a little bit. 535 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:49,000 We were in a game up in Osterholz, which is way up in northern Germany. 536 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,640 He was open inside 537 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,320 and they were taking shots 538 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,320 rather than kicking it down inside to him. 539 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,640 So I told them at halftime 540 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,736 "If you guys don't start getting the ball inside to him 541 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,240 I'm-a pull both you guys out and you're gonna sit." 542 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,920 I think that one of the things that he appreciates 543 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,520 is that I stood up for him. 544 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:08,840 Playing high-school ball in Europe 545 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,080 our average road trip was between four and five hours. 546 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,760 When I think about the relationship that I've had with Shaquille 547 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,160 it was all forged on a bus to nowhere 548 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,640 and talking about what young kids hoped for and dreamed for 549 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,560 and how come our moms and dads are so strict on us. 550 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,200 I was fortunate to be able, maybe, to give him 551 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,000 some perspective, you know, during that time in his life 552 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,720 when he was kind of forming his own opinion 553 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,360 about what he thought about the world. 554 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,400 So at the end of the year 555 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,360 we made it to the small-schools tournament. 556 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Unfortunately, Shaquille's father 557 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,920 he was destined to be transferred back to the States. 558 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,040 So we got a call that he was gonna be leaving. 559 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:54,280 We looked at the calendar. 560 00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:56,440 We're not gonna have him for the Elite Eight. 561 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,080 He played in those last two games. 562 00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,600 He played lights out. 563 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,760 We're done, we're in the locker room I'm talking to the team 564 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,600 and Shaquille was leaning over the counter to the sinks. 565 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,800 And I noticed the sinks were wet, and I thought 566 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,000 why is he washing his hands? 567 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,776 We... I mean, I guess we just played a game. 568 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,040 I don't know. 569 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:14,200 And I quickly realized that it wasn't water. 570 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,240 He was crying. 571 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,000 And I knew in that moment 572 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,840 how difficult it was gonna be... 573 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,560 I knew how difficult it was gonna be for him to leave us. 574 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,800 And he turned to me, and he hugged me. 575 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,120 And he said, "Coach, I love you." 576 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,600 And I said, "I love you too, big guy." 577 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,000 That's the last time I saw him 578 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,200 until he was playing for Coach Brown. 579 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,880 After my sophomore year, we leave. 580 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,360 Back in Jersey, ain't seen family. 581 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,336 What's happening? Boom, boom. Lovin' and huggin'. 582 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:51,160 We got the moving thing on top of the car. 583 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,680 I'm like, "Yo, man, where we going?" 584 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,200 "Shut your ass up and get in the car." 585 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,520 And we get in the car. 586 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,040 And we drivin' and we drivin'. 587 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:00,920 Now I'm starting to see stuff I ain't seen in a while... cows. 588 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,000 I'm like... 589 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,760 And then I see, "Welcome to Texas." 590 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,760 I'm like, "Texas? 591 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,880 Cowboys?" 592 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,600 We moved to San Antonio, Texas. 593 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,000 We arrive at the school. 594 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,880 And I'm talking to the principal 595 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,520 and I see this little kid walking down the hall 596 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,720 and he comes in, and, "This is Joe Cavallaro. 597 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,000 He's gonna show you around." 598 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,520 I see Sergeant Harrison 599 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:23,760 and Shaquille standing there. 600 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,080 Obviously a basketball player 601 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,576 so about time we get some good talent for the basketball team. 602 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,840 He showed me around. 603 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,016 And, "What about the basketball team?" 604 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,200 "We ain't really that good." 605 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,000 "But I want to meet some of the players." 606 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,080 Our graduating class in 1989 was 79 people. 607 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,120 You couldn't go to the school unless your parents 608 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,200 were in the military 609 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,600 or if your parents worked at that school. 610 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,040 So because there's not a lot of kids 611 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,720 I make the team. I'm a starter. 612 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,520 The high school years was something very special 613 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,760 because we were just coming from Germany. 614 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,840 And I remember the coach said that 615 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,320 "I don't know if he can walk and chew gum at the same time." 616 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,920 We told him, "You may have to just show them. 617 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,960 Don't even tell them how good you know you are." 618 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,720 Our team became immediately dominant his junior year. 619 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,240 He began to get exposure all around the state of Texas. 620 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,640 My first article was 621 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,720 "Cole's O'Neal 'best in the U.S.'" 622 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,120 So 35-1, having a good year. 623 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,120 Semifinals going into the finals. 624 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,240 Down by one. 625 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,480 Shaquille O'Neal gets fouled, goes to the line, misses. 626 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,360 We got beat in the playoffs 627 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,920 because he missed free throws. 628 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,280 That stuck with him and gave him the motivation 629 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:36,600 to do what he did his senior year, which was absolutely amazing. 630 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,960 All right, Shaquille! 631 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,840 Senior in high school, Magic Johnson was my guy. 632 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,800 So I'm smooth with the ball. 633 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,040 Look-away pass. 634 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,080 I cross this dude up at half-court, ooh, ooh. 635 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,880 I go to give a nasty finger roll, and I miss. 636 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,080 All of a sudden, I see this big black dude 637 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,816 walking on the court in his military fatigues. 638 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,520 It's my father, the Sarge. 639 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,240 He said, "Call a time-out." 640 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,640 "Yes, sir." 641 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,840 He said, "What you doing?" 642 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,400 "Man, I'm just workin' on my Magic"... 643 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,360 "Fuck that." 644 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:10,920 "Be Shaquille O'Neal." 645 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,080 "Dunk it every fucking time." 646 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,800 And the boys knew what happened. 647 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,120 They knew the Sarge done touched me up. 648 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,040 And I looked at him, and he was like "Give me the goddamn ball." 649 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:26,360 That's all you had to say, bro. 650 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,160 When I dunked, I was so fuckin' mad 651 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,120 I wanted to break the rim off for him. 652 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,280 "Oh, this is what you want me to do?" 653 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,200 "This good enough for you, Sarge?" 654 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,680 Everybody's scared. Terrified. 655 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:42,680 I'm-a kill your ass out here. 656 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,840 Monster. 657 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,320 That's the monster shit, bro. 658 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:46,840 He's seven feet tall 659 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,720 one of the top five high school players 660 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,960 in the country, and he just turned 17. 661 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,480 Shaquille O'Neal, averaging 47 points a game 662 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,760 in the playoffs. 663 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,720 He started going up against these kids 664 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,320 and just doing what he wanted to. 665 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,520 We beat a team 121-35. 666 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:07,320 By the end of the game, the rims were like this... 667 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,160 Sergeant Harrison saw it before anybody. 668 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,440 So I'm in the house one day 669 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,160 and my father comes in and hits me with a paper again. 670 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,480 "Look at this motherfucker." 671 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,040 The contact with the left hand. 672 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:31,640 There was a guy named Jon Koncak. 673 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,520 Takes it to the basket and rattles it home. 674 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,200 He signed 15 for three. 675 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,520 "Get your shit. We gonna watch him play." 676 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,600 Toyota... 677 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,720 And I'm watching this guy play, and I'm like 678 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,200 "Yo, if he gettin' 15, I can get eight." 679 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,800 So now I got to stay focused. Now I'm close. 680 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,096 This article right here that says 681 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,160 "Cole's O'Neal 'best in the U.S.'" says that I'm close. 682 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,520 In today's classic, Shaquille O'Neal 683 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,280 a 6'11" giant from San Antonio 684 00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,920 will lead the West against the East. 685 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,320 It's the 12th Annual McDonald's All-American Game. 686 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,640 So growing up in my high school I loved Dick Vitale. 687 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,400 This is excitement. This is absolutely bedlam. 688 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:10,640 Loved him. 689 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,760 And I get to the McDonald's game 690 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,840 and I was like, "Hello, Mr. Vitale." 691 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,040 And Mr. Vitale says, "And you are?" 692 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,960 I said, "My name's Shaquille O'Neal." 693 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,280 "Oh, you the big guy from Texas 694 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,800 that played against those small kids." 695 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,200 Oh, my God. 696 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,120 Now I'm fuckin' pissed. 697 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,480 My mom always used to say 698 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,400 and it didn't make sense till that day 699 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,640 "Baby, make 'em remember your name." 700 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,040 I already know what I'm-a do. 701 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:36,440 First time I touch the ball, I'm taking it coast-to-coast. 702 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,160 So I blocked Conrad McRae's shot. 703 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,000 There's Shaquille with another rejection. 704 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,160 Dribble... 705 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,496 take off on the free throw line. 706 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,040 Dunk it. Boom. 707 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,080 And then Dick Vitale screamed, "Oh, my God!" 708 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,320 - And I'm looking like, "Oh." - I can't believe it! 709 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,960 That's a seven-footer! Are you serious? 710 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,000 I'll tell you one thing, this guy can play. 711 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,920 Shaquille O'Neal will be a star at LSU. 712 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,800 Now when I go to Baton Rouge 713 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,480 it's back to the bottom, brother. 714 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,120 They got Chris Jackson and Stanley Roberts. 715 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,480 We don't know who you are. 716 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,160 I remember him asking 717 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,160 who would start and all that business. 718 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,496 And I told him right up front, but I said 719 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,640 "Shaquille, I have never told a player he would start. 720 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,560 That has to occur on the court. 721 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,920 You know, I go from averaging 37 points to six points. 722 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,360 So my whole freshman year, I'm playing the game 723 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,896 and I'm turning it over, I'm fumbling. 724 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,800 It's back to, "You can't play." 725 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,720 But, you know, my father always told me 726 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,760 "If you stay consistent at something 727 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,360 whatever you're looking to accomplish, it will happen." 728 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,480 I don't think I've ever seen a player consistently 729 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,000 get better and better and better and better. 730 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,440 There was no question 731 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,440 not one doubt in my mind, he was gonna be a superstar. 732 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,800 Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, aka Chris Jackson 733 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,760 doesn't know this, but I used to follow him. 734 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,240 I knew he used to work out at night 735 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,960 but nobody was allowed to go in there. 736 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,520 So I broke in there. 737 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,320 And he was talking to himself. Shoot. 738 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,040 And it seemed like he wasn't missing. 739 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,840 So I'm like, "Okay, if this what he's doing 740 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,360 to be great, I'm-a do it." 741 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,096 Oh, Patrick, you want to try to guard Shaquille? 742 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,480 Oh, Shaquille like, and I would... 743 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,160 I was trying to imagine that. 744 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,960 So guess what happened my sophomore year. 745 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,560 Mr. Stanley Roberts flunks out. 746 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:15,920 Here's my shot. 747 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,480 And I come in, first time I got the ball, and dunked it. 748 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,400 I'm like... 749 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,080 Flips it to O'Neal and slams it in. 750 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,640 Shaquille, and then I'm like... 751 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,080 I'd say Shaq took it to the rack. 752 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,176 Like, man, this is what I've been dreaming about all my life. 753 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,720 7'1", nearly 300 pounds 754 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,960 yet only weeks beyond his 19th birthday 755 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,000 LSU sophomore Shaquille O'Neal is already being heralded 756 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,400 as one of the top centers in the universe. 757 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,520 My sophomore year, I led the conference in everything. 758 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,960 And I always knew from a youngster 759 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,040 take advantage of opportunities. 760 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,320 Great steal. O'Neal, slam dunk! Oh, my goodness! 761 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,640 Sophomore year, I wanted to go pro. 762 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,840 My father said, "We've been broke 17 years of your life. 763 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,280 We can be broke for 18." 764 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,080 When he first went to school, everything was 765 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,680 {\an5}go to school, get education. 766 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,760 {\an5}Now that Shaquille's 767 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,520 {\an5}a fairly good basketball player 768 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,680 everybody's now saying 769 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,120 "Dump school and go to the NBA." 770 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,280 He probably knew, too, that he was that good. 771 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,520 And I remember sitting him down 772 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,320 and said, "It's gonna be different from now on." 773 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,760 Why? I don't understand that. 774 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,720 'Cause of the money? Money isn't everything. 775 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,840 'Cause of the publicity? That's not everything. 776 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,520 I know it's gonna be an argument 'cause he's like, "Nope. 777 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,800 You ain't doing shit until you get a degree. 778 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,200 I don't give a shit what you say. 779 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,856 I don't care how much money they're offering you. 780 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,880 You ain't doing nothing." 781 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,440 If he goes to the NBA and can't do what they expect him to do 782 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,720 where's he gonna be at? 783 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,800 I go... I said, "I want to go pro." 784 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,200 He's going, "Motherfucker... 785 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,400 Get out of my face!" 786 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,520 So my mom said, "Come with me, baby." 787 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,400 And my mom said, "Balance this checkbook." 788 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,920 I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. 789 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,840 Mom said, "You not ready, baby." 790 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,576 He decided that he wanted to go back to school 791 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,400 for at least another year or so. 792 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,040 This conversation's over. Yes, ma'am. 793 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,440 At that time, I made it my point just to help him. 794 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,040 If he needed me, I was there. 795 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,320 He had that dream, I'm gonna be professional one day. 796 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,720 We would not pay bills and get in the car on a Friday 797 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,840 and drive to Louisiana just to spend the weekend with him 798 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,320 so that we could be with him and keep him encouraged. 799 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,720 "You a big man. You stand tall. 800 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,400 You don't let anybody move you." 801 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,120 And it's a 10-point lead. 802 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,880 One-handed catch by Shaquille. 803 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,640 Got his own rebound. And that'll count. 804 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,200 And a foul as O'Neal will step to the free throw line. 805 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,480 People had to compete against me because of my size. 806 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,480 They felt they had to get super-physical. 807 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,000 Well, guess what. I got ass-whuppings every day. 808 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,920 You're not hurting me. It's just making me more angry. 809 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,240 And a foul. 810 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,720 How good is that? 811 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,560 Also showed me a sign of respect. 812 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,080 "I can't stop you, man. I'm sorry. I fouled him." 813 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,520 You think this big guy is good? 814 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,840 Watch this. He's gonna get hammered right here 815 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,680 get fouled, still get it up with his strength, get it in 816 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,760 and count it. 817 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,800 I had called the SCC numerous times and told them 818 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,760 "The referees have to stop these flagrant fouls." 819 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,520 - Tapped in... - They can't stop him 820 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,080 so they foul him, knowing he's a poor free-throw shooter. 821 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,080 Shaquille's gonna be seriously hurt. 822 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,216 It could cost him his career. 823 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,600 They're gonna get shots. 824 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,400 O'Neal is fouled by Groves as he made a strong move to the basket. 825 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,720 Strong being a bit of an understatement in that case. 826 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,720 When we go to the SCC tournament 827 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,680 third time this happened by this player from Tennessee. 828 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,400 Won four in a row, lost a heartbreaking... 829 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,560 Look out. 830 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,440 Groves and O'Neal square off. 831 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,160 And Dale Brown is pushing Groves! 832 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,080 And I see Shaquille's knee going out and a fight breaking out 833 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,720 so I go out on the court 834 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,440 and get in a confrontation with the guy doing it. 835 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,680 That's why I love that man. 836 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,880 He was right there next to me. 837 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,520 The reason why I swung on Carlus Groves 838 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,680 is because in my mind 839 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,360 this dude's trying to mess my money up. 840 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,480 And I wanted to send a message to anybody 841 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,360 that try to mess my money up, this is what's gonna happen to you. 842 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,960 Sadly as I hate to say this 843 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,960 I'm recommending to Shaquille's parents 844 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,200 that he turns NBA. 845 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,160 I do not want to see this young man blatantly fouled and hurt 846 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,000 and then, because of my selfishness to win 847 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,240 he doesn't play pro ball. 848 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,360 If he's going to get hurt 849 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,896 and people are going to intentionally foul him 850 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,240 for the 18th time 851 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,200 he needs to go get money to get hurt. 852 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,040 He's no ordinary 19-year-old. 853 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,400 Standing 7'1" and weighing in at 285 pounds 854 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,880 his amazing speed and spectacular skills 855 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,360 have made him, without doubt, the most sought-after 856 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,720 collegiate basketball player in the nation. 857 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,480 Junior year. Dominated. 858 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,560 Dick Vitale's 859 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,640 still screaming my name. 860 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,800 Shaquille O'Neal! 861 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,400 Go home, same argument. 862 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,016 But it's the first time I stand up to him. 863 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,640 "Man, fuck that. 864 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,320 They fuckin' me up in school. I'm going." 865 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,576 And it was the first time he looked back at me and was like... 866 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,760 he realized that he created a man. 867 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,696 And then Mom says, "You know what I'm gonna ask you to do. 868 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,880 Pull it out." 869 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,000 My shit was neat. 870 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,200 Debits, credits, boom-boom, bada-bam, bada-bing. 871 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,600 And she said, "Okay, you ready." 872 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,360 When you have a dream come alive 873 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,640 it's just a blessing instead of hard work. 874 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,960 He told me I was never gonna have to worry. 875 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,296 "You won't have to worry about anything. 876 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,856 You gonna be able to get anything that you want." 877 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,800 And I said, "Okay, okay. That's fine." 878 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,200 It's good. It's good for all of us. 879 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,320 Good afternoon. The mic's on? 880 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,600 Good afternoon. Thank you all for coming. 881 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,560 About to make my statement. 882 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,520 I, Shaquille O'Neal, after careful deliberation 883 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,480 have decided to forgo my senior year of eligibility 884 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,560 at LSU. 885 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,160 I'm not making this decision out of anger or frustration. 886 00:34:37,240 --> 00:34:39,560 I feel that in my heart, it's time for a change 887 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,080 and it's time for me to move on. 888 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,000 I've truly enjoyed every aspect of my college years 889 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,160 as a basketball player and as a student. 890 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,120 I think the experience was very much needed. 891 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,000 But now I am ready to take what I've learned 892 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,400 on with me to the NBA. 893 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,800 And I'd like to thank you people for coming 894 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,400 and thank you for the awards 895 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,856 and, you know, thank you for everything. 896 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,440 And thank you for listening. Peace. 897 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,760 Any questions? 898 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,880 Always been our dream to see him play in the NBA. 899 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,240 My dream, you know. 900 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,080 Because I wanted to play, and I couldn't play in it. 901 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,400 Now my son is gonna play in it. 902 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,736 It makes me feel a whole lot better 903 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,400 knowing that my son is able to go farther than what I went you know? 904 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,456 That's the main... that's what it's all about 905 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,856 you know what I mean? Your children going farther 906 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,456 that what you went and doing better than what you're gonna be doing. 907 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:23,680 All right. See you later, guy. 908 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,400 I was elated for the family because, you know, a superstar 909 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,240 and they drive up in this old van. 910 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,040 So I knew it was a pivotal thing financially. 911 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,520 He was gonna help take care of the family. 912 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,080 Well, Shaquille, this is it, bro. 913 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,840 We're going to work. Time to go to work, huh? 914 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:49,440 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen 915 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,400 and welcome to the 1992 NBA Draft. 916 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,160 Draft night was special. 917 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,200 My grandmother was there. My mother was there. 918 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,600 Brother, sisters, uncles, friends. 919 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,496 And then when they called my name, it was like... 920 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,880 With the first pick in the 1992 NBA Draft 921 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,560 the Orlando Magic selects Shaquille O'Neal 922 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,640 from Louisiana State University. 923 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,720 Who, me? 924 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,040 I wanted to cry inside, but being raised by the Sarge 925 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,080 you're not allowed to be emotional. You're not allowed to be soft. 926 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,280 But in my mind, "I'm here. 927 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,400 I'm here. 928 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,200 All the ass-whuppings... 929 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,280 all the doubters... 930 00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:38,480 I'm here." 931 00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:41,720 Well, along with Jack Givens 932 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,680 this is Chip Caray welcoming you tonight 933 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,040 the debut of perhaps the most heralded rookie 934 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,240 in the NBA in quite some time, number 32, Shaquille O'Neal. 935 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,680 The Magic and Miami Heat, archrivals battling it out. 936 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,920 And the opening tap goes to Miami. 937 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,000 And the Shaquille O'Neal era has begun in the NBA. 938 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,800 So now you're in the NBA. 939 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,280 All the guys you used to see and then dream about 940 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,640 and look at and drool over 941 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:05,840 they're here now. 942 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,520 So I'm like, "You ain't where Hakeem at yet." 943 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,600 You ain't where David Robinson at. 944 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,160 Shaquille O'Neal is not used to this. 945 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,560 And you ain't where Ewing at. 946 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,800 Ewing with the spin. 947 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,200 Ewing... yes! 948 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,560 I wanted to be that guy. 949 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,080 I wanted what Magic had. 950 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,600 I wanted what Dr. J had. 951 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,600 I wanted what Michael Jordan had. 952 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,000 Michael had all of that. And I wanted that. 953 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,720 How does he do it? 954 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,120 Michael Jordan. Ferocity. 955 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,600 Wanted to be the best ever. 956 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,480 When he gets fouled hard, he's not shakin' nobody's hand. 957 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,320 Like, I fouled him one time and went to pick him up. 958 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,720 He said, "Don't do that. 959 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,400 Don't ever help nobody up. Good foul." 960 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,840 I was like, "Damn." 961 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,921 And look at that pass. Oh, they stole it! Stolen by Scott. 962 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,696 {\an5}Well, obviously, Shaq came in with 963 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:50,720 {\an5}all the hype. 964 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,600 {\an5}He didn't win a championship. 965 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,720 He never made that miraculous Final Four run. 966 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,160 But his dominance... 967 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,840 He would shoot 72% from the floor 968 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,960 and people was like 969 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,520 "Well, he doesn't have a free throw" 970 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,616 or, "He doesn't shoot threes." 971 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,000 Why would you? 972 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,160 Let the locomotive keep coming down the track. 973 00:38:11,240 --> 00:38:14,320 Until they figure out a way to stop it, keep going. 974 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,680 And I think that's the presence 975 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,200 Shaq brought into the NBA as a rookie. 976 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,520 So when you lookin' at a god on TV 977 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,080 but then when you see him in real life 978 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,600 and you realize he's not a god 979 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,280 now that so-called "god" is in trouble. 980 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,640 Shaq for two over Olajuwon. 981 00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:35,160 Sets up O'Neal. Oh, my. 982 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:38,360 And then lets the crowd know, "I'm here." 983 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,800 The first time Patrick Ewing shot a fadeaway jump shot 984 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:42,680 and I'm right there. 985 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,600 Ewing. 986 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,400 Ooh, I think I can block that. 987 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,440 So now next time, should get a little closer 988 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,840 when he get on that fadeaway. 989 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,920 My father said, "You show a person respect 990 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,120 by showing them none. 991 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,656 I don't give a damn that's Patrick Ewing. 992 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,680 You Shaquille O'Neal." 993 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,600 Way of operating offensively. 994 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,600 Ewing rejected by O'Neal. 995 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,760 Yes, sir. 996 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,816 Boy, that... When does that happen to Patrick Ewing? 997 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,360 Maybe... I don't remember. 998 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,080 Your ass is in trouble. 999 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,360 We're gonna just stand up and throw to the commercial. 1000 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,600 Standing up. 1001 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:13,720 So does your mic... 1002 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,640 I don't think your mic does that... Stretches that far. 1003 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:17,960 Here, hold on. 1004 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,320 Okay. 1005 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,480 We'll be back in a moment. But first... 1006 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,360 - I told you what to say. - Oh, I forgot. 1007 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,720 Come here. 1008 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,880 Yeah. Sorry. 1009 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,320 - Go ahead. - This is Today on NBC. 1010 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,960 One of my superpowers is, I can stop time. 1011 00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:40,560 And what I mean by that is 1012 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,160 I can foresee stuff before it happens. 1013 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:45,200 So I had a professor, Tommy Karam. 1014 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,336 He pulled me to the side and said 1015 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,400 "Why you don't never want to speak up in the class?" 1016 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,240 "'Cause when I get nervous, I stutter." 1017 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,920 Profess-professional athlete. 1018 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,240 So then we used to set up fake interviews. 1019 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,520 He used to come in with a little VHS camera 1020 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,120 ask me a question and then we'd stop and go over it. 1021 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,200 So now I'm practicing at home by myself. 1022 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,120 Click. Watch. 1023 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,416 Don't come in like you're super-intelligent 1024 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:11,440 'cause you're not. 1025 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,720 Move that out the way. 1026 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,960 Funny. 1027 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,560 Let them know you're cool. 1028 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,600 Be confident. Be humble. 1029 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,440 All right. Play. 1030 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,720 And then he said the words I needed to hear. 1031 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,200 He said, "When you talkin' to that 1032 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:24,960 that's just more money in your pocket." 1033 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,080 Stop. 1034 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,680 I think I'm... Orlando... 1035 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,080 S-H-A... 1036 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,200 Mickey Mouse. 1037 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,640 Q-I-E... 1038 00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:33,040 Let me see that hat. 1039 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,160 S-H-A-Q-I-E 1040 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,840 M-O-U-S-E 1041 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,520 You gotta do interviews. 1042 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:41,840 People are gonna love you. 1043 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,560 You gonna make so much money on the side. 1044 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,520 I played all sports. I played soccer. 1045 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,120 - Were you good at soccer? - I used to kick people. Yeah. 1046 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,720 I'm not sure that's the point of the game. 1047 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,280 Ah, well. 1048 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,280 First of all, is it true that you're the only rookie 1049 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,960 that was ever named Player of the Week 1050 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,920 - in the first week? - I had a pretty good week. 1051 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,520 Coming into the NBA, I didn't want to be a boring big man. 1052 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,760 Big guys don't sell. I'm not in that category. 1053 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,680 I'm over here in this category. 1054 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,720 So I call Arsenio, and I say, "Hey, man. 1055 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,960 I want to be on your show, but I want to be different." 1056 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,320 "What do you mean, brother?" 1057 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:18,720 I say, "At the end of the show 1058 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,320 can I rap with my favorite rap group?" 1059 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,560 Making his TV debut. 1060 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,960 Performing "What's Up Doc?" with his friends 1061 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,320 who happen to be the fastest-rising rap group 1062 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,760 on the charts, Shaquille O'Neal and Fu-Schnickens. 1063 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,720 I didn't even know Fu-Shnickens at the time. 1064 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,800 Yeah, can we rock? 1065 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,920 Yeah, what's up, Doc? 1066 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,080 We practiced the song once or twice 1067 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,120 and then when the show came, I killed it. 1068 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,656 Yo, I'm the hooper, hyper Protected by a viper 1069 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,800 When I'm out there hoopin', Yo, you better decipher... 1070 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,600 They went on and performed. 1071 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,336 {\an5}Next thing you know, they did a music video 1072 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,440 {\an5}"What's Up, Doc?" 1073 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,560 I get a call from Barry Weiss, the CEO of Jive Records. 1074 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,840 He says, "I want to sign Shaq to a record deal." 1075 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,000 Said, "Man, I ain't no rapper." "Ten million." 1076 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,440 "What?" 1077 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,280 What a rebound. 1078 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,816 He has gone after it with a vengeance. 1079 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,800 No-look feed, Dennis Scott. 1080 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,960 O'Neal sliding... 1081 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,400 Goes to Reed. Driving shot. 1082 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,080 Blocked by O'Neal out of bounds. 1083 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,960 That's the kind of rebound the Magic want from O'Neal. 1084 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,040 For Shaquille. 1085 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,040 I would like to present to Shaquille O'Neal 1086 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,840 the Most Valuable Rookie of the Year award. 1087 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:39,920 Another trophy for me 1088 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,800 and I hope I can get an NBA Championship trophy 1089 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,080 to go along with it. 1090 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,720 When I retire and have children 1091 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,960 I can tell my son, "Son, I was bad." 1092 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,680 So my agent knew a lot of people. 1093 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,760 He says, "They want you to play in this movie." 1094 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,920 "I don't care if the movie's terrible or not. 1095 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,000 I'm not turning it down." 1096 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,960 Before we start shooting, I gotta work out. 1097 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,920 So we're running a play, and they're stealing clips. 1098 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,600 And then this Penny guy is... 1099 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,240 that dude dropped me off nice. 1100 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,280 And to Hardaway for the jam. 1101 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,360 {\an5}To me, I had a game plan. 1102 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,080 {\an5}Because what I wanted him to know was that 1103 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,640 if I got drafted by the Magic 1104 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:20,096 that I would be giving him the ball 1105 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,096 and putting him in position to be the best that he could be. 1106 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,880 So everything that I did was catered towards making Shaq happy. 1107 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,320 I asked him one day, I said, "How long you been an actor?" 1108 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,976 He said, "No, no. I'm from... I'm Penny Hardaway. 1109 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,200 I went to Memphis State and I put my name in the draft." 1110 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,760 "You did what?" 1111 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,360 I can remember Dennis Scott, my best friend on the team 1112 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,120 telling me, "Man, at some point, you gonna have to go upstairs 1113 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,800 and it's gonna have to get ugly, big dog. 1114 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,080 This your team." 1115 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,320 John Gabriel. 1116 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,456 I called him on the phone and said 1117 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,800 "Hey, man, You heard of Penny Hardaway?" 1118 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,800 "Oh, yeah, I heard of him. He's really good. 1119 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,200 But we probably want to go with Chris Webber." 1120 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,976 "Man, I don't need no power forward that likes to shoot the ball. 1121 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,000 I need somebody that's gonna give me the damn ball. 1122 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,720 If you don't pick the Penny guy, brother 1123 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,400 I think we gonna have some problems at... 1124 00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,720 you know, when my deal is up." 1125 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,000 With the first pick 1126 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,480 {\an5}in the 1993 NBA Draft 1127 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,776 - the Orlando Magic... - Orlando Magic... 1128 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,800 - select Chris Webber. - select Chris Webber. 1129 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,480 I tear my back house up. 1130 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,880 Break the glass. 1131 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,400 {\an5}You tellin' me I'm the leader. 1132 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,200 And then when I come to you with something and you don't... 1133 00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:16,800 I mean, I'm still a pawn. 1134 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,080 Callin' him, pissed off. 1135 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,760 And then in the middle of the draft... 1136 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,720 Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to report a trade. 1137 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:30,520 Orlando has traded the draft rights to Chris Webber to Golden State 1138 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,200 for the draft rights to Anfernee Hardaway. 1139 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,480 Chris Webber to Golden State for Penny Hardaway. 1140 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,680 Now I'm like... 1141 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,800 When the Magic started, the Nick Anderson 1142 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,120 you know, the Scott Skiles, it was fun. 1143 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,720 It was, "Hey, the Magic's in town." 1144 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,360 But when Shaq came 1145 00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:50,480 it was like they were a real professional team now. 1146 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,200 Then draft night, I look over to Nick Anderson. 1147 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,360 I said, "This is Shaq and Penny's team now." 1148 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,200 And everything just took off. 1149 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,880 First year with Penny was phenomenal. 1150 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,240 He was the true definition of a point guard. 1151 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,160 True definition of a point guard 1152 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,080 is one that makes players around them better. 1153 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,200 Hardaway feeds O'Neal. 1154 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,120 He was always looking for me first. 1155 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,400 Penny Hardaway fumbles... 1156 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,800 He's looking for me so much, I don't have to tell him 1157 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,520 "Yo, man, I'm tired right now. You shoot." 1158 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,640 Normally got there. 1159 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:23,616 Skiles hit Hardaway, is twisted but Shaq hammers it in. 1160 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,960 We didn't have no problems. 1161 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,720 No problems, no arguments, no fights. 1162 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,200 And they said that we were the youngsters of the future. 1163 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,560 The wave of the future... 1164 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,640 The freight train 1165 00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:33,176 we knew we were gettin' that every night. 1166 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,080 We knew Shaq was gonna play hard. 1167 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,400 And Penny was so gifted, you just couldn't guard him 1168 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,720 at 6'8" as a point guard. 1169 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,600 Everywhere we went 1170 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,160 from the time Shaq and Penny came together 1171 00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:44,280 was a party. 1172 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,096 Shaq, may I please have an autograph, please? 1173 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,920 That's when we became a household name. 1174 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,800 Another Dr. Lucille O'Neal quote 1175 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,400 "Before you succeed you must first learn to fail." 1176 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,200 We got swept by the Pacers 'cause we didn't know how to win yet. 1177 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,120 Wasn't good enough. 1178 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,920 We're a young team. They a veteran team. 1179 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,480 They know all the tricks, and we wasn't ready yet. 1180 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,960 Third year, we got Horace Grant. 1181 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,000 One last time, Horace Grant. 1182 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:15,080 We were confident. 1183 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:17,040 Penny was an All-Star. I was an All-Star. 1184 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,720 Everything was flowin' great. 1185 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,120 And then you go up against the great Michael Jordan. 1186 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,400 It came in a two-word statement, quote-unquote, "I'm back." 1187 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,920 That was really all Jordan needed to say 1188 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,160 as his 17-month retirement came to an end. 1189 00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:32,360 The young student must kill the master 1190 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,840 to become the master. 1191 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,800 Mike is the man. 1192 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,760 He left, he comes back. 1193 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,840 I don't care if it's Michael on the court. 1194 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,080 I knew for us to get over the hump 1195 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:44,800 we were gonna have to go through the Bulls 1196 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,920 the team that won three championships in a row. 1197 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,360 But we knew the competitive nature of Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. 1198 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,040 We were the young guns. 1199 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,160 We weren't really caring about any of that. 1200 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:56,616 We just knew that we had to go ball. 1201 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,920 Shaquille O'Neal over Michael. 1202 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,416 That's another three for Anfernee Hardaway. 1203 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,440 And that's what we did. 1204 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,760 - And there's Shaq. - Shaquille. 1205 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,280 Backs him all the way 1206 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,880 and goes up and dunks the ball. 1207 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,560 Had some problems at the end of the year. 1208 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,520 That's Hardaway with the reverse. 1209 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,280 Jordan hard to the hoop. 1210 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,960 The reverse from Michael! 1211 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,080 Shaquille down low. 1212 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,560 Ran the double team. Hardaway, hammer time. 1213 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,880 Pippen driving, stripped by O'Neal. 1214 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,520 O'Neal dunks the ball. 1215 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,040 It's all over. And the Bulls' season comes to an end 1216 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,520 here at the United Center, and the Orlando Magic... 1217 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,440 It was like winning the respect battle. 1218 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,000 It was winning the barbershop news. 1219 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,920 And that was the bragging rights. 1220 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,680 For that weekend, that day, we kicked the Bulls' butt. 1221 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,856 Now, just think about it. You just beat Michael Jordan. 1222 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,320 Who else is left? 1223 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,000 Ain't nobody else left in the league. 1224 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,320 We weren't worried about playing 1225 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,520 the Indiana Pacers in the Eastern Conference final. 1226 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,480 The crowd's standing and cheering 1227 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,360 and they may not sit down till Wednesday. 1228 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,840 We have about six, seven days off. We partyin'. 1229 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,280 Me and D Scott, we in Atlanta at Magic City. 1230 00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,600 We did a rap song. 1231 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,280 Just a little bit of magic tonight 1232 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:02,440 B Shaw, myself. 1233 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:03,656 Everything's gonna be all right 1234 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,016 Then Penny came by, but Penny didn't really rap. 1235 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,040 He was just there. 1236 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,560 We were the Showtime of the South. 1237 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,960 And we wanted to say, "Hey, we know we're good." 1238 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,400 So game one of the Finals 1239 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,560 we're rollin'. 1240 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,640 I'm hittin' threes. 1241 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:19,760 Shaq's dunkin'. Penny's doing his thing. 1242 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,960 We was up the whole game. 1243 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,400 And, like, they come back and they go crazy. 1244 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,920 And Nick Anderson, he has the chance to make two free throws. 1245 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,320 He misses, gets his own rebound, gets fouled again. 1246 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,400 I'm like, "Bro, just hit these two free throws 1247 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,056 so we can get this little lead, get a stop 1248 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,320 we gonna win the first game." 1249 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,560 Well, the three to make four rule, that's... 1250 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,360 And then Nick misses those free throws. 1251 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,240 And he misses four straight. The Rockets... 1252 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,800 We lose our mojo. 1253 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,960 Tide changes. Hakeem gets hot. Drexler's doing his thing. 1254 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,520 And then we lost game one. 1255 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,120 The Houston Rockets have stunned the Orlando Magic. 1256 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,320 Now we're worried. 1257 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,960 The problem with the finals is 1258 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,920 I was going up against one of my idols 1259 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,680 and I showed him too much respect. 1260 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,000 Now we come into game two, and they blow us out. 1261 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,520 We go to game three in Houston, and we lose. 1262 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,120 We go to game four... 1263 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,400 They blow us out. 1264 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:20,640 The Houston Rockets have swept the Orlando Magic. 1265 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,920 We were still young and naive. 1266 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,680 Did we say all the right things in practice? 1267 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,800 Did we do all the right things in practice? 1268 00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,080 Did we come out and play hard? 1269 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,160 We did! We tried. 1270 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,280 That is... 1271 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,280 that is my saddest moment... 1272 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,520 to be honest with you. 1273 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,520 Because we never... 1274 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,000 got it back. 1275 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,040 I'm walking down the street in Chicago. 1276 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,520 This lady comes up to me and says 1277 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,336 "You shouldn't do that to your father. 1278 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,840 You should give him a second chance." 1279 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,800 I'm like, "What are you talking about?" 1280 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,240 Can you imagine losing contact with your son 1281 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,880 and being able to hear about him only through the press? 1282 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,256 And then I get home. I called my mom. 1283 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,840 I said, "Mommy, look, did Daddy do something?" 1284 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,680 And she's... "No. 1285 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,480 But Joe Toney done went on the Ricki Lake Show." 1286 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,720 I'm like, "What? Who?" 1287 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,520 Joe Toney is Shaquille O'Neal's birth father 1288 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,040 and hasn't spoken to him in over a decade. 1289 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,880 He says no matter how hard he has tried to contact Shaquille 1290 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,080 his requests to see his son 1291 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,360 have been turned down. 1292 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,920 Basically, when Shaquille was born 1293 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,040 {\an5}I got in trouble. 1294 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:44,360 {\an5}I was involved with drugs. 1295 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,496 {\an5}And when he was six months old, 1296 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,520 {\an5}I got locked up. 1297 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,240 {\an5}I went to prison for five years. 1298 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:49,416 {\an5}When I came back from prison 1299 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,136 {\an5}she had married this gentleman in the service 1300 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,800 and they moved to Germany. 1301 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,840 They gave me a bogus address 1302 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,040 at which to get in touch with them which didn't work. 1303 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,576 But like I said, I just want to get the message. 1304 00:50:58,600 --> 00:50:59,936 I just want a few minutes of his time. 1305 00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:03,240 I can almost believe that he heard about Shaquille 1306 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,960 from the time he was becoming national news. 1307 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,680 And it probably was burning in him, he missed everything. 1308 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,800 But Shaquille didn't care. 1309 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,800 He wrote a song about Phil. 1310 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,080 He said, "He took me from a boy to a man. 1311 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:17,400 And Phil is my father 1312 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,840 'cause my biological didn't bother." 1313 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,120 "Oh, I just want to see him. 1314 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:24,720 I want to do this. I want to do that." 1315 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:25,880 But in my mind, it's... 1316 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,920 "When I was trying to get some shoes, where were you?" 1317 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,640 My mom always told me, "Hey, beware. 1318 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:33,360 Once you get this money, everybody comin'." 1319 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,680 And he was the first one. 1320 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,200 That year, Penny redid his contract. 1321 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:43,480 He sat out a couple games. 1322 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,320 Wanted more money than me, which is fine. 1323 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,920 'Cause one thing I understood was marketing and business. 1324 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,960 You pay him 30, you gotta pay me 60. 1325 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,480 It was never in the negotiations 1326 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,816 where I was saying, "I need to make more 1327 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,416 than anybody on the team, Shaq or anyone." 1328 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,920 I just wanted my worth. 1329 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,920 I create jealousies for myself. 1330 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,560 If you have something, internally, I say I want it. 1331 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:06,296 And then I just gotta go get it. 1332 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,040 And then with his tenth three-pointer a new NBA record... 1333 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:11,880 {\an5}I knew that Shaq 1334 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,080 {\an5}has to get the first shot. 1335 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,760 {\an5}If you didn't understand that 1336 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,160 about him, then that's where you were gonna have problems. 1337 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,840 Being the biggest guy in the room 1338 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,600 he wants the biggest and the most of everything. 1339 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,360 That's for his own ego. 1340 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,600 Our team was young, pretty immature. 1341 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,120 I think that that slowly started to affect 1342 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,520 the camaraderie, or lack of it. 1343 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,960 That's the first part of destroying a franchise 1344 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:37,360 is destroying a team 1345 00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:40,040 because your two best players need to be on the same page. 1346 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,600 Like, he was upset that I was getting more money 1347 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,000 or the same amount of money or that he deserved more. 1348 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,280 But I felt like he was the man 1349 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,680 and that they were gonna do for him what needed to be done. 1350 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,800 We came back next year. We're rollin'. 1351 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,680 But it wasn't that same feeling. 1352 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,920 Is Shaq stayin' now? Is Shaq leavin'? 1353 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,240 Is he gettin' a contract? 1354 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,720 Everything changed. 1355 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,040 A look at the starting lineups. 1356 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,040 The Magic will start without Shaquille O'Neal. 1357 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,560 Well, in 1996, my grandmother died. 1358 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,656 After the funeral, I just needed a couple days 1359 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:16,920 to just relax. 1360 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,960 But they callin' me, "We're playin' the Bulls. Come..." 1361 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,160 Like, "No, I'm not comin'. 1362 00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:24,280 That's more important to them than my family. 1363 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,680 A damn game." 1364 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,120 Here comes Shaquille O'Neal. 1365 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,760 With a sense of drama 1366 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,120 Shaquille O'Neal just arrived at the arena. 1367 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,240 He is hustling back to the Orlando locker room 1368 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,360 and, obviously, will try to get himself into uniform 1369 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,520 and will be appearing on the bench. 1370 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,040 So I come in the middle. We lose. 1371 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,240 And I do something I wasn't supposed to do. 1372 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:49,600 I go upstairs and say 1373 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,920 "We startin' off at 115." 1374 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,840 They, whoever they may be, did a poll. 1375 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,600 "Is Shaq worth 115?" 1376 00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,640 And the town said no. 1377 00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:02,000 Well, I just think if Shaq is as good as he thinks he is 1378 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,800 why didn't he ever have 25, 30 rebounds in a game? 1379 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,760 Why didn't he step up in the fourth quarter? 1380 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,296 - You know, he was... - Shaquille O'Neal 1381 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,880 who's already a millionaire and has a mansion 1382 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,520 how much more does he need? 1383 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,680 How dare you ask the community should he be paid that much? 1384 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:16,800 You know better. 1385 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:17,960 Or maybe you don't. 1386 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,920 I just think that the man didn't want to play 1387 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,080 for the Magic anymore 1388 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,440 because he wasn't the main man anymore because we got Penny. 1389 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,080 It reminded me of Snoop Dogg at the Source Awards. 1390 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,360 The East Coast don't love Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg? 1391 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,920 Orlando Magic, y'all don't love Shaquille O'Neal? 1392 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,416 - Y'all don't love us? - Y'all don't love me? 1393 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,960 Shaq wanted to stay with the Orlando Magic. 1394 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,640 He was a small-town guy. 1395 00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:38,920 Instead of offering 1396 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,440 the most dominant player in basketball a max deal 1397 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,840 they started playing around trying to negotiate with him. 1398 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,120 It really made him feel disrespected. 1399 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,040 There's no loyalty in any game. 1400 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,120 So get a call from my guy. 1401 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,400 He said, "They offered you 80 for four. 1402 00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,440 I'm like, "That's cool. I could take that." 1403 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,480 Basketball gods or something said, "Don't do it." 1404 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,680 How much he get? 1405 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,120 Congratulations, Zo. 1406 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,160 Man, I'm just, you know, hoping to get 1407 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:11,400 a pretty good deal. 1408 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,040 The Miami Heat signed Juwan for 110 1409 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,840 and Alonzo for 105. 1410 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,000 And I'm like, "I done killed both of them 1411 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,160 their whole career." 1412 00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:22,680 Oh, what a dunk! 1413 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,360 If a top-of-the-line BMW costs 110 1414 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,840 what does a top-of-the-line Mercedes cost? 1415 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,200 Much more. 1416 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,200 So then we're in the Olympics. We're trainin'. 1417 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,680 Uncle Jerome and I were out... 1418 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,680 at a gentleman's club, I might add. 1419 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:35,960 I remember that he got a call 1420 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,400 from his agent at the time 1421 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,720 that we had to meet him. 1422 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,240 It was, like, early in the morning. 1423 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,600 When we get there 1424 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:42,800 his agent is there 1425 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,520 and Mr. West is there. 1426 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:45,600 And then it was like 1427 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,680 "Jerry, tell him." 1428 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,760 And Jerry says, "We got some good news 1429 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,120 and I got some bad news." 1430 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,416 And I said, "What's the bad news?" 1431 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,280 He said, "I can't get you that 115." 1432 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,536 I said, "What's the good news?" 1433 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,840 "I can get you to 120." 1434 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,080 I was like... 1435 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,000 As a basketball player, I cried. 1436 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,080 Shaq on the floor makes life easier 1437 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,200 because he's that dominant. 1438 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,160 I didn't know that he was leaving Orlando 1439 00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:10,560 until I saw the actual press conference 1440 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,240 with him holding a Laker jersey with Jerry West. 1441 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,080 Didn't communicate at all. 1442 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,120 Not one time did we call each other 1443 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,240 and talk to each other and talk it out. 1444 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,840 Penny didn't even know. 1445 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,800 But all I really wanted was for Penny to go up 1446 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,480 to the Orlando and say, "Pay Shaq. 1447 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:26,760 Shaq stuck up for me. 1448 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,320 Now I'm stickin' up for him. Pay him." 1449 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,400 But he never did that. 1450 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,720 So in my mind, I was like, "Okay, you want to be the man? 1451 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,400 There you go." 1452 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,440 In case you haven't figured it out yet 1453 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,320 I've signed with the Los Angeles Lakers. 1454 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,840 Keep in mind the word "change." 1455 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,200 To me, change is for the good. 1456 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,200 And right when I'm signin', Jerry West says to me 1457 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,120 "In a couple years, you're gonna be 1458 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,280 one of the best basketball players ever to play the game." 1459 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,400 Pause. I was like, "You know what? 1460 00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:53,920 You might be right."113416

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