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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,700 Hello, I'm calling from the trip. 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,760 I'd like to confirm a quote. We'll get it right around the two hours. How much 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:06,699 money was involved? 4 00:00:06,700 --> 00:00:07,800 It was over a thousand dollars. 5 00:01:11,980 --> 00:01:18,620 I've been away in my beautiful, beautiful country. 6 00:01:44,590 --> 00:01:46,230 should have come in first. Yeah, I know. 7 00:01:47,070 --> 00:01:48,750 Hey, can I use your comp? Yeah. 8 00:01:49,710 --> 00:01:50,710 Give it to me, Judy. 9 00:01:51,790 --> 00:01:53,050 Are you joining fire again? 10 00:01:53,290 --> 00:01:55,070 I don't know, but it makes it nasty. 11 00:01:55,470 --> 00:01:56,348 Oh, no! 12 00:01:56,350 --> 00:02:00,270 Oh, my message was in San Francisco next year. We could go to San Francisco 13 00:02:00,270 --> 00:02:02,070 together. That'd be great. That'd be terrific. 14 00:02:02,290 --> 00:02:03,290 Yeah! 15 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,260 and Newhall and several injuries. You better get out there. Any ideas how? The 16 00:02:34,260 --> 00:02:37,600 freeways will be jammed. Paul Driscoll at the cop house. Find out what hospital 17 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,300 they're taking the victims to and meet them there. Okay. 18 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:41,680 What do you got? First picture's out of Kular. 19 00:02:42,020 --> 00:02:43,020 Where is that anyway? 20 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,220 Must be British Arabia. 21 00:02:44,740 --> 00:02:45,719 Where was that? 22 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,720 The Persian Gulf. 23 00:02:46,860 --> 00:02:47,759 That Kular. 24 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,579 Let me see. 25 00:02:48,580 --> 00:02:50,040 This is the funeral of the king. 26 00:02:51,180 --> 00:02:52,200 More like a riot. 27 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,380 French photographer's doing a good job, of course. It's amazing he's able to get 28 00:02:56,380 --> 00:02:58,080 these shots, let alone get them out of the country. 29 00:02:58,490 --> 00:03:01,490 How come they didn't throw out the French along with the Americans? You get 30 00:03:01,490 --> 00:03:03,190 attention by throwing out Americans. 31 00:03:03,590 --> 00:03:07,110 Phil, what's the feeling on the foreign desk about Kular? 32 00:03:07,810 --> 00:03:08,810 Don't drink the water. 33 00:03:09,070 --> 00:03:10,070 Or the oil. 34 00:03:10,270 --> 00:03:11,450 Which way do you think it'll go? 35 00:03:11,930 --> 00:03:15,550 Well, until the government stabilizes, what we've got is a vacuum. With Russia, 36 00:03:15,650 --> 00:03:18,850 America, and Islam all rushing to fill it. Just let me know if I'm going to 37 00:03:18,850 --> 00:03:19,850 on gas lines again. 38 00:03:20,130 --> 00:03:23,590 Yeah, well, we do import a lot of oil from Kular. If they ever shut off our 39 00:03:23,590 --> 00:03:25,750 supply completely... Why didn't I buy a diesel? 40 00:03:26,390 --> 00:03:28,540 Charlie? Your sister or three from San Diego. 41 00:03:28,740 --> 00:03:29,740 Excuse me a second. 42 00:03:32,620 --> 00:03:33,800 Hello, Claire. How are you? 43 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:36,820 We have the guest room all set up. 44 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,500 Why can't you stay over? 45 00:03:42,020 --> 00:03:44,600 Will Jim pick you up in the morning in Baltimore? 46 00:03:46,380 --> 00:03:47,380 Okay. 47 00:03:47,460 --> 00:03:48,580 Call me when you get home. 48 00:03:54,190 --> 00:03:57,970 Can I have another day on this cable TV thing? I just got a call about the 49 00:03:57,970 --> 00:03:59,610 licensing change. I have to run it down. 50 00:03:59,910 --> 00:04:01,090 We wanted it for tomorrow. 51 00:04:01,370 --> 00:04:04,130 Yeah, but I don't think we'll have time to get down there and think of my story 52 00:04:04,130 --> 00:04:04,809 in a shape. 53 00:04:04,810 --> 00:04:06,050 Don't worry, we'll edit it. 54 00:04:06,910 --> 00:04:08,190 That's what I was afraid of. 55 00:04:09,730 --> 00:04:12,610 And that's why we felt there was no need for a break with the previous 56 00:04:12,610 --> 00:04:14,330 administration on that matter. 57 00:04:14,570 --> 00:04:18,829 Mr. Moffat, is it true that you're the fellow in the Defense Department that we 58 00:04:18,829 --> 00:04:21,850 all have to thank for keeping our Red Devil missile system in the competition? 59 00:04:22,570 --> 00:04:25,970 Well, Southern California's always been the heart of the aerospace industry, so 60 00:04:25,970 --> 00:04:27,950 we think it only makes sense to stay with the winner. 61 00:04:28,730 --> 00:04:31,830 As leaders of the business community, I know you can appreciate that. He's 62 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:35,150 telling these people what they want to hear. Not exactly a controversial lunch. 63 00:04:35,650 --> 00:04:38,670 Well, it's a free country, Mr. Grant. Ask a question. 64 00:04:41,270 --> 00:04:45,470 Mr. Moffat, can we expect a change in policy in Kular? 65 00:04:46,010 --> 00:04:48,150 As you know, they are undergoing a revolution. 66 00:04:48,930 --> 00:04:51,510 What will we do if the Marxists try to grab that oil? 67 00:04:52,030 --> 00:04:53,770 I don't think Kular wants communism. 68 00:04:54,190 --> 00:04:57,210 It is a volatile situation, and we're watching it very carefully. 69 00:04:59,690 --> 00:05:00,690 Gee, 70 00:05:00,990 --> 00:05:05,230 I'm sorry. They tell me... I have to go or I'll miss the plane. 71 00:05:05,930 --> 00:05:07,690 My time's not my own, as you can see. 72 00:05:07,930 --> 00:05:11,130 Thank you very much for inviting me. Thank you. I enjoyed it. 73 00:05:13,310 --> 00:05:15,570 I'm certainly glad we were able to catch Mr. 74 00:05:15,810 --> 00:05:17,110 Moffat while he was on the coast. 75 00:05:17,830 --> 00:05:20,330 And now the subject of next month's... 76 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:21,560 Luncheon discussion. 77 00:05:22,500 --> 00:05:23,500 Something's up. 78 00:05:23,620 --> 00:05:24,760 How can you tell? 79 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:30,100 Newsman's instinct. He didn't finish his chocolate cake. 80 00:06:08,170 --> 00:06:11,150 know what it means either. We got a strange wire report from Washington. 81 00:06:11,450 --> 00:06:12,450 Really? What? 82 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:16,230 Well, the president was on his way to Camp David. His helicopter took off, 83 00:06:16,290 --> 00:06:19,370 hovered for a few minutes, and then came right back down. President Quifty had 84 00:06:19,370 --> 00:06:21,910 had a wonderful trip. He was glad to be home. 85 00:06:22,210 --> 00:06:25,370 Looks like he was called back to the White House about the same time Marva 86 00:06:25,370 --> 00:06:26,369 called out of here. 87 00:06:26,370 --> 00:06:27,430 Well, we'll get on it. 88 00:06:28,690 --> 00:06:32,300 Donovan. Moffat was supposed to go back to Washington on a commercial flight, 89 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,100 but they took him to the Long Beach Naval Air Station instead, and he caught 90 00:06:35,100 --> 00:06:36,100 military plane from there. 91 00:06:36,700 --> 00:06:39,020 Hallmark Air Force Base. That's an air attack installation. 92 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,300 Find out if they're on alert. 93 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:46,120 I can't get through to our D .C. Bureau. What's Cozell doing? Talking to his 94 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,120 girlfriend? 95 00:06:47,380 --> 00:06:49,760 All the Washington circuits are busy. You think that means anything? 96 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,300 Yeah, everybody knows something's put up. 97 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:56,760 Ah, there I am. 98 00:06:58,310 --> 00:07:00,050 This is Joe. Let me speak with Gozel. 99 00:07:02,990 --> 00:07:05,610 Doctor, help Sarah. Sarah Baldwin. 100 00:07:05,930 --> 00:07:07,090 We're taking care of her now. 101 00:07:07,310 --> 00:07:08,390 Could I see her, please? 102 00:07:08,670 --> 00:07:09,750 I'm her best friend. 103 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:13,350 Well, I don't think she'll be able to see anybody for a couple of days. 104 00:07:14,370 --> 00:07:16,050 But when she's better, I'll let you know. 105 00:07:16,470 --> 00:07:17,470 Okay? 106 00:07:18,150 --> 00:07:19,570 What happened to Sarah Baldwin? 107 00:07:20,090 --> 00:07:21,970 She's the girl you saw brought in by helicopter. 108 00:07:22,510 --> 00:07:23,890 She was trapped in a bus. 109 00:07:24,410 --> 00:07:28,210 How is she? Well, she suffered third -degree burns over 70 % of her body. 110 00:07:28,470 --> 00:07:31,550 She went into respiratory arrest. We had to perform a tracheostomy. 111 00:07:32,290 --> 00:07:33,290 Now she's stabilized. 112 00:07:34,190 --> 00:07:35,390 She's lucky to be brought here. 113 00:07:35,690 --> 00:07:36,509 Why is that? 114 00:07:36,510 --> 00:07:39,690 Well, we think we have one of the best, if not the best, burn centers in the 115 00:07:39,690 --> 00:07:43,490 country. I've spent most of the last 12 years developing many of the techniques 116 00:07:43,490 --> 00:07:45,270 we use, and with the team concept. 117 00:07:45,870 --> 00:07:49,830 Makes everything work. Now I remember that race car driver was flown here from 118 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:52,590 Riverside. Well, that's why we have the helicopter pad on the roof. 119 00:07:52,790 --> 00:07:56,850 Now, when Sarah's parents arrive here tonight from Marietta, our team social 120 00:07:56,850 --> 00:08:00,490 worker and I will meet them, arrange for a motel, and explain what they're in 121 00:08:00,490 --> 00:08:05,350 for. You see, burns are so traumatic and painful, so completely disruptive and 122 00:08:05,350 --> 00:08:08,030 long -term, the families need all the support they can get. 123 00:08:08,690 --> 00:08:09,710 Have you had lunch? 124 00:08:10,130 --> 00:08:11,130 Had her back, no. 125 00:08:11,790 --> 00:08:13,690 Well, I'm not asking you to lunch. 126 00:08:14,430 --> 00:08:16,350 I just want to make sure you don't get sick. 127 00:08:23,290 --> 00:08:27,170 The patient comes in here twice a day for silver nitrate baths. 128 00:08:27,410 --> 00:08:32,190 The dressings come off underwater, and the patient's encouraged to wash his own 129 00:08:32,190 --> 00:08:36,090 wounds, to participate as much as possible in his own treatment. 130 00:08:36,350 --> 00:08:37,350 Wouldn't he be unconscious? 131 00:08:37,570 --> 00:08:38,870 Most of them are alert. 132 00:08:39,130 --> 00:08:42,090 You see, we can't medicate them effectively for pain. 133 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,640 The nerve endings are exposed. 134 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,160 In Burns, the pain is constant. 135 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:49,800 You and I can't imagine what it's like. 136 00:08:50,180 --> 00:08:52,240 Oh, maybe a tooth being drilled. 137 00:08:52,660 --> 00:08:56,120 It's about the worst I can think of. Well, it's even worse than that. 138 00:08:56,540 --> 00:08:58,180 And it's all over the body. 139 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:06,600 They go to the hyperbaric oxygen chamber twice a day, rest on special air beds 140 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,420 under heat shields, because, of course, we can't put blankets on them. 141 00:09:10,090 --> 00:09:13,670 And we have a team of specialists, including burn pediatricians. 142 00:09:14,270 --> 00:09:17,890 But you know the only thing that makes the patients better is the nursing care. 143 00:09:18,070 --> 00:09:20,890 It takes enormous love and around -the -clock nursing. 144 00:09:22,030 --> 00:09:24,130 Sometimes for months, and even then we lose them. 145 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:26,090 What are Sarah's chances for healing? 146 00:09:26,910 --> 00:09:29,670 Well, her prognosis is not good. 147 00:09:30,030 --> 00:09:32,370 But she's young, and we're going to do everything we can. 148 00:09:32,750 --> 00:09:35,910 This is the most advanced technology for burn treatments in the world. 149 00:09:36,210 --> 00:09:37,570 So there's reason for hope. 150 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:43,230 Have you gotten through to Walkerman? We're trying. 151 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:45,450 Did Rossi turn in his cable TV story? 152 00:09:45,690 --> 00:09:48,670 He got a new lead, but when he came back, I put him on that story about 153 00:09:48,810 --> 00:09:51,870 The FCC is announcing a licensing change in the morning. I need that story, 154 00:09:51,930 --> 00:09:53,770 Donovan. I need a vacation. 155 00:09:54,150 --> 00:09:57,250 Okay, I'll pull Rossi off. All right, have him get something in his shade by 156 00:09:57,250 --> 00:09:58,270 tonight, and I'll work it up. 157 00:09:58,870 --> 00:10:02,470 Finally got through to Washington. We got it. You're damn right something was 158 00:10:02,470 --> 00:10:06,090 going on there this afternoon. One of our planes was shot down over Kular 159 00:10:06,090 --> 00:10:08,650 airspace. They think it was by a Russian -made jet. 160 00:10:08,990 --> 00:10:10,640 President! It's got to address the nation. 161 00:10:11,380 --> 00:10:12,480 Nice going, Lou. 162 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:18,240 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A &E. 163 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,220 Oil shipments from Kular to the U .S. have been halted, and there is no 164 00:10:42,220 --> 00:10:43,900 indication of when they will be resumed. 165 00:10:44,420 --> 00:10:47,600 Listen, Marv, I say we should nuke them just like we should have nuked Iran. 166 00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:53,740 And to summarize what the government spokesman said in his announcement, new 167 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:56,640 developments in the Persian Gulf skirmish this afternoon have been 168 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,340 An American jet was shot down over Kular airspace, but in the brief exchange of 169 00:11:02,340 --> 00:11:06,320 air -to -air missiles, American aircraft also destroyed a Kular -8 jet, believed 170 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,500 to be a Russian -made MiG. 171 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:11,210 developments better today. 172 00:11:11,730 --> 00:11:14,150 American citizens have been urged to leave Kular. 173 00:11:14,610 --> 00:11:18,610 The first to arrive in West Germany tonight report that fighting in the 174 00:11:18,610 --> 00:11:23,110 between army units loyal to the late king and religious extremists has 175 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:24,110 for the time being. 176 00:11:24,890 --> 00:11:29,210 Sources in Washington have confirmed that all diplomatic efforts to alleviate 177 00:11:29,210 --> 00:11:32,250 tensions... Hey, 178 00:11:33,290 --> 00:11:34,390 Lou, you're still awake, huh? 179 00:11:34,590 --> 00:11:35,590 Oh, hi, Charlie. 180 00:11:35,850 --> 00:11:36,850 Yeah, I'm awake. 181 00:11:37,010 --> 00:11:39,530 Listen, why don't you go home? Nothing more is going to happen tonight. 182 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:41,060 I'm working on Rossi's story. 183 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,620 I sure hate to waste this caffeine high. 184 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,820 Radio and TV have been giving Kular a lot of play, but it's mostly repetitive. 185 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,960 I haven't heard anything new in two hours. 186 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,480 You're probably right. 187 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:53,660 Come to think of it, I'm starting to crash. 188 00:11:54,020 --> 00:11:55,020 See you tomorrow. 189 00:11:58,720 --> 00:11:59,840 Forget about it, Lou. 190 00:12:00,580 --> 00:12:02,160 No way is that story Metro. 191 00:12:02,780 --> 00:12:03,780 What story? 192 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,120 Kular. 193 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,900 It's foreign and national, so don't try to bulldog your way in. 194 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,400 Oh, me? 195 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:13,240 Animal. 196 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,240 I've got an angle on this Kalar thing. 197 00:12:27,780 --> 00:12:30,500 What does the average guy think about what's happening down there? 198 00:12:30,940 --> 00:12:32,400 Let's do men on the street interviews. 199 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:33,820 Nice local, don't you think? 200 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:44,799 Good morning, Charlie. 201 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:45,980 Ask who it is first. 202 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:47,699 Who is it? 203 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:48,700 It's your sister. 204 00:12:49,220 --> 00:12:54,920 What are you doing here? I was sitting out at the airport waiting to make my 205 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,700 connection. And I was going to call you. 206 00:12:58,020 --> 00:13:01,180 But then I just figured, what the hell? This is just too damn important. What? 207 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,480 What is it? Good to see you. Oh, Marion. 208 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Well, I just spent two days at a symposium of concerned doctors. 209 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,680 Talking about the medical repercussions of nuclear war. 210 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:16,360 Well, here we are, suddenly faced with it. Come on, Claire. 211 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,200 Everyone's a little tense with things heating up in Kular, but don't get 212 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,960 melodramatic. Have you read the research I sent you? 213 00:13:23,340 --> 00:13:25,680 Which research? You send me stuff every week. 214 00:13:25,900 --> 00:13:26,900 Any of it. 215 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,180 Not yet, but I will. 216 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,420 By the time you get around to it, it'll be too late. 217 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,360 Look, Claire, I'll read it tonight. 218 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,600 How was the symposium? 219 00:13:39,060 --> 00:13:40,060 Incredible. 220 00:13:40,460 --> 00:13:43,220 You know, the first one we ever held in Baltimore, we had maybe 100. 221 00:13:43,740 --> 00:13:46,640 This time in San Diego, there were 2 ,000. 222 00:13:47,020 --> 00:13:48,760 Doctors, nurses, technicians. 223 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,540 Doctors are really responding to this, aren't they? Yes. They realized that a 224 00:13:53,540 --> 00:13:55,240 nuclear war would be the last epidemic. 225 00:13:55,980 --> 00:14:00,980 One bomb dropped on L .A. would immediately kill close to 2 million and 226 00:14:00,980 --> 00:14:02,340 injure a million more. 227 00:14:02,700 --> 00:14:05,260 It's the injuries that we were talking about at the symposium. 228 00:14:06,030 --> 00:14:08,750 I mean, never before in the history of the world have a million people been 229 00:14:08,750 --> 00:14:09,870 injured in one place. 230 00:14:10,830 --> 00:14:12,190 It's a medical impossibility. 231 00:14:13,230 --> 00:14:16,790 If you have to think about it for three days like we did, you'd go a little 232 00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:17,790 nuts. 233 00:14:18,830 --> 00:14:22,990 How about a drink, Claire, or something to eat? You must be starved. No, thanks, 234 00:14:23,070 --> 00:14:24,070 I can't. 235 00:14:24,590 --> 00:14:26,970 You know that there was a... A Dr. 236 00:14:27,250 --> 00:14:33,270 Buchanan from Phoenix led a discussion as to whether we, as doctors, should 237 00:14:33,270 --> 00:14:34,290 murder our patients. 238 00:14:35,070 --> 00:14:38,150 When they're in pain and asked to be killed because there's no medication. 239 00:14:40,770 --> 00:14:45,090 Diseases that we now control, like encephalitis and hepatitis and polio, 240 00:14:45,090 --> 00:14:45,869 become epidemic. 241 00:14:45,870 --> 00:14:47,190 Did you cover the convention? 242 00:14:47,570 --> 00:14:51,310 We had a string around it. Charlie, you should have sent six reporters down 243 00:14:51,310 --> 00:14:53,730 there. Your medical and science guys, too. Where were they? 244 00:14:54,030 --> 00:14:56,570 Claire, you don't understand how we do things. 245 00:14:56,890 --> 00:14:59,530 When are you going to get off the dime on this, Charlie? For the most part, the 246 00:14:59,530 --> 00:15:01,490 media has not been getting this story out. 247 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,360 My own brother has his head in the sand. It's just infuriating. 248 00:15:05,580 --> 00:15:07,100 Claire, it's 2 a .m. 249 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:10,600 Can't we go to bed and talk about it in the morning when we're all fresh? 250 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,340 Have you ever had a gun pointed right at you? I mean, literally? 251 00:15:19,700 --> 00:15:22,500 No. Well, we've got a gun pointed at us right now. 252 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,460 Charlie, there are 50 ,000 nuclear warheads in the world today. We've got 253 00:15:28,460 --> 00:15:30,100 ,000. The Russians have 20 ,000. 254 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,440 Every city in the United States with a population as small as 25 ,000 could be 255 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,360 targeted. Los Angeles alone may have a dozen bombs aimed at it right now. Each 256 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:44,820 one 70 times the explosive power of Hiroshima. 257 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:51,140 At any given moment, we're a half hour away from annihilation. 258 00:15:51,340 --> 00:15:55,720 I want to thank you in advance for the wonderful night's sleep I'm going to 259 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,720 have. 260 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,700 I don't see my TV cable story lose third day in a row. 261 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,240 Sorry, Rossi. If you want to make the paper, tell the Russians not to mask 262 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,320 troops on the Kalar border. 263 00:16:08,940 --> 00:16:12,840 Huh. Is this just a confrontation, or should I be nervous about this? 264 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,940 Only about as nervous as you were during the Cuban Missile Crisis. 265 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,460 Are you kidding? I was in high school, hiding under the desk. I was sure it was 266 00:16:19,460 --> 00:16:20,460 going to happen. 267 00:16:22,380 --> 00:16:24,840 We'll go a certain distance, show a little muscle. That's all. 268 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,160 They'll flex a little, we'll flex a little. 269 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,860 Yeah, what if somebody throws a punch? 270 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,660 That's why I think we should have good, strong, conventional forces. 271 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,760 Then we don't have to go... Oh, Greece. 272 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,060 Why didn't I think of the Greek islands? 273 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,840 What about them? My vacation's coming up. This sounds really nice. 274 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:46,540 A chartered yacht sailing the Blue Aegean. A whitewashed shack on the 275 00:16:46,540 --> 00:16:48,920 Spetsi. That's good, Donovan. Think about your vacation. 276 00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:50,820 You say conventional weapons. 277 00:16:51,140 --> 00:16:52,680 What if they start talking nuclear? 278 00:16:53,020 --> 00:16:55,620 I think all the nuclear talk is just a matter of deterrent. 279 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,820 That reminds me of my mom. 280 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:01,380 She always used to say, what are those nuclear detergents they're always 281 00:17:01,380 --> 00:17:04,200 about? They sure get your shirt whiter than white. 282 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,160 The Department of Defense has asked us to clear some beds in case there are 283 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,680 casualties in the Middle East thing. 284 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,940 You mean if they were fighting, they would fly our soldiers halfway around 285 00:17:12,940 --> 00:17:13,940 world for treatment? 286 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,000 Well, you can't treat severe burns in the field. 287 00:17:16,900 --> 00:17:18,300 How many cases could you take? 288 00:17:18,859 --> 00:17:20,980 Oh, we could free up maybe ten of our beds. 289 00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:22,300 Ten? 290 00:17:22,460 --> 00:17:25,480 Well, hospitals all over the country are part of the project. Now, they don't 291 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:26,599 expect anything to happen. 292 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,520 They're just putting us on standby. 293 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:31,920 How about Sarah? 294 00:17:32,140 --> 00:17:33,560 Are you going to start skin grafts? 295 00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:37,020 We're going to wait a few days. Get her caloric intake increased. 296 00:17:37,580 --> 00:17:40,580 But there's going to be a problem. There's not a whole lot of skin left to 297 00:17:40,580 --> 00:17:41,580 graft. 298 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:42,940 She's got a fight ahead of her. 299 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,100 How did you first get involved in this? 300 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,900 Well, my practice is mostly children, and I started comparing notes with my 301 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:11,300 colleagues about children's fantasy. 302 00:18:11,900 --> 00:18:14,960 We found out that children all over the world are starting to dream about 303 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,060 nuclear war. They see voids, they see blackness falling into dark holes. 304 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,720 I've talked to teenagers who just don't think they'll live long enough to have 305 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,840 families. Write that down for me, will you, along with those other sources. 306 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:29,300 Our children are already grieving the death of the planet. 307 00:18:29,580 --> 00:18:30,620 So we've got to go. 308 00:18:32,469 --> 00:18:35,550 They'll tell you that the whole idea of nuclear warfare is goofy. 309 00:18:36,090 --> 00:18:38,190 Goofy? Can you think of a better word? 310 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:43,310 I'm going to read all that stuff you gave me. And if you have more, you send 311 00:18:43,390 --> 00:18:44,390 Come on. 312 00:18:45,690 --> 00:18:49,290 It's a Japanese custom that the person who folds a thousand cranes will have 313 00:18:49,290 --> 00:18:50,290 wish come true. 314 00:18:50,490 --> 00:18:53,350 But since Sarah can't fold them herself, we're doing it for her. 315 00:18:53,850 --> 00:18:55,530 My grandmother says it don't count. 316 00:18:55,850 --> 00:18:56,850 Requires doing this? 317 00:18:57,370 --> 00:18:58,630 Require, though. I think it's cool. 318 00:19:00,110 --> 00:19:01,390 Have you seen Saria? 319 00:19:01,889 --> 00:19:02,890 No, I haven't. 320 00:19:03,550 --> 00:19:04,750 They won't let us inside. 321 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:06,970 I guess we're not sterile enough. 322 00:19:08,250 --> 00:19:09,850 Are you waiting to see Dr. Lawrence? 323 00:19:10,290 --> 00:19:11,290 Yes. 324 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:12,450 Oh, my. 325 00:19:12,690 --> 00:19:14,950 I want to ask if she can read letters or not. 326 00:19:15,470 --> 00:19:16,469 Where is Dr. 327 00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:18,850 Lawrence? They said he had a phone call from Washington. 328 00:19:19,270 --> 00:19:22,310 Hey, want me to show you how to make them? 329 00:19:22,530 --> 00:19:23,530 Yes. 330 00:19:26,150 --> 00:19:29,810 My sister got us out of bed to talk about this stuff, but you made a point. 331 00:19:30,350 --> 00:19:32,230 We've been neglecting this in our coverage. 332 00:19:32,990 --> 00:19:36,190 Had a turn on Channel 6. They're doing an instant replay of something you've 333 00:19:36,190 --> 00:19:39,370 to see. The senator has just emerged from a subcommittee... I hope it's 334 00:19:39,370 --> 00:19:42,690 Skyhook on the top of the scene. ...passed the press. He forced his way 335 00:19:42,690 --> 00:19:45,450 Can you give us a few minutes? Can you talk to the people? Ladies and 336 00:19:45,530 --> 00:19:48,890 I have something very urgent to say to you. No, no, I've got to talk to all 337 00:19:48,890 --> 00:19:51,990 these people. Let him talk! Come on! Get in the car for the baby! What's going 338 00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:53,550 on in there? All the people have got to know. 339 00:19:54,170 --> 00:19:56,130 They're in there talking about the Big Bang. 340 00:19:56,650 --> 00:19:59,170 Everyone that you have ever loved is going to be gone. 341 00:19:59,660 --> 00:20:03,900 finished. Over. And I'm not just talking about our sudden white flash. No, no, 342 00:20:03,940 --> 00:20:08,420 no, no. Millions and millions of people are going to suffer unimaginable pain. 343 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,320 It's the world's suicide. 344 00:20:10,780 --> 00:20:11,780 It's massive. 345 00:20:12,020 --> 00:20:13,600 No, please, I've got to tell the president to go. 346 00:20:14,140 --> 00:20:18,020 Get the car. Get the car. Follow him. One more question. One more question, 347 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,020 please. The senator is being driven to an undisclosed location. That is a 348 00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:24,520 on videotape of a U .S. senator wigging out. 349 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,640 Lou Grant will continue in a moment. 350 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:29,920 Here on A &E. 351 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,240 How do you feel about waiting in gas lines again? 352 00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:43,000 See that guy with three cars ahead? 353 00:20:43,460 --> 00:20:44,460 Just cut in. 354 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,340 If you'd have tried that on me, I would have killed him. 355 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,240 Still might. 356 00:20:52,060 --> 00:20:53,060 Hey, Phil. 357 00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:55,980 What about this revolution in Kular? What does it mean? 358 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,120 Is it Marxist, religious, or what? 359 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,540 Well, I think we should wait on a deep analysis and cover what's happening now, 360 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,320 the struggle for oil. You know the gas lines out there are murder, worse than 361 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,220 74. Could Kular go Marxist? Sure it could. It could go either way. 362 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:11,100 Are there contingency plans for that? 363 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,880 Yeah, well, I think the only plan is to keep control of the flow of oil at all 364 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,260 costs. What's all costs? 365 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,560 Well, you heard what the Pentagon guy said. We will not rule out military 366 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,380 intervention. Meaning send in the Marines? 367 00:21:21,660 --> 00:21:24,180 Well, they're talking short -range nuclear weapons, aren't they? But 368 00:21:24,180 --> 00:21:27,500 really thinking of using them. If it came down to it, we'd have no choice. 369 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:28,639 Why not? 370 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,740 We couldn't fight a land war 9 ,000 air miles away. Besides, our conventional 371 00:21:33,740 --> 00:21:36,080 mobile forces aren't ready. We've emphasized nuclear. 372 00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:40,080 Still, every administration, Republican and Democratic, has said it's 373 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:45,320 unthinkable to really actually consider pushing the button. I'm not hearing that 374 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,840 anymore. Are you? Is anybody? 375 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:51,300 We may have to use nuclear weapons in a limited way to show them that we mean 376 00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:54,460 business. From what I've been reading, there's no such thing as a limited 377 00:21:54,460 --> 00:21:55,460 nuclear exchange. 378 00:21:55,900 --> 00:22:00,260 Once one goes off anywhere in the world, that's it. Not necessarily. I am 379 00:22:00,260 --> 00:22:05,640 speaking of tactical nuclear weapons. One battlefield limited to a particular 380 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,580 place. You mean just one little bomb like the one that flattened Hiroshima? 381 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,440 We should interview that guy. What's his name? The one that's supposed to be so 382 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,960 bright. The consultant on civil defense. 383 00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:18,820 George Dvorak. Good idea. But that's national. 384 00:22:19,340 --> 00:22:20,780 Dvorak's in L .A. this week. 385 00:22:21,310 --> 00:22:23,870 See, well, I guess that makes Dvorak our metro store. 386 00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:26,670 We're out fighting in the capital between Marines and Kilari soldiers. 387 00:22:27,210 --> 00:22:28,210 American Marines? 388 00:22:28,270 --> 00:22:31,610 We went in to protect our embassy and civilian people who were ambushed by 389 00:22:31,610 --> 00:22:32,610 hundreds of soldiers. 390 00:22:33,210 --> 00:22:35,370 Well, gentlemen, I think we have a new page one. 391 00:22:40,590 --> 00:22:41,590 Mr. Rossi? 392 00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:47,490 Somehow, when I called to get your ideas about civil defense, I didn't expect to 393 00:22:47,490 --> 00:22:48,490 meet you at a surf shop. 394 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:52,720 Well, my son very carefully told me that this is the primo surf shop in L .A. 395 00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:54,280 His birthday is tomorrow. 396 00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:57,000 I'm sure he doesn't expect me to come back from the coast empty -handed. 397 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:00,600 Geez, 398 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:01,920 where do I start? 399 00:23:02,020 --> 00:23:04,220 What do you want to buy him, a surfboard or a T -shirt? 400 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,640 I've been gone two weeks. I guess it better be a surfboard. 401 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,340 Mr. Dvorak, are you alarmed at the situation in Kular? 402 00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:12,920 I'm very concerned, yes. 403 00:23:13,820 --> 00:23:17,640 If it came down to a military confrontation with the Russians, would 404 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,640 nuclear weapons? 405 00:23:19,340 --> 00:23:20,680 I can't answer that officially. 406 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,720 How about unofficially? Would you speculate? 407 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:24,320 Well, we wouldn't rule it out. 408 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,780 You wouldn't rule out nuclear weapons? 409 00:23:27,460 --> 00:23:30,240 If we used them, wouldn't that start World War III? 410 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,820 Oh, not necessarily. Our aim would be a limited engagement. 411 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,120 What if it can't be limited? 412 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:35,640 The United States could be attacked. 413 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:37,640 Well, we would just have to survive. 414 00:23:38,420 --> 00:23:39,420 Is that possible? 415 00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:41,580 Well, if we were prepared. 416 00:23:47,270 --> 00:23:52,150 Yes. I've read that no matter how much we were prepared, over 90 % of Americans 417 00:23:52,150 --> 00:23:54,590 would die within 30 days in the event of an all -out attack. 418 00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:57,410 Well, that depends on where you get your figures. 419 00:23:57,950 --> 00:24:01,090 We've calculated that 80 % of the population could be saved. 420 00:24:01,890 --> 00:24:02,890 How would that take? 421 00:24:03,370 --> 00:24:07,010 Well, we'd have to commit to building shelters, making plans to evacuate the 422 00:24:07,010 --> 00:24:08,010 civilian population. 423 00:24:08,770 --> 00:24:09,770 Evacuate L .A.? 424 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:13,060 Took me over an hour to get here from my paper just because of a little traffic 425 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:14,060 snarl on the freeway. 426 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,260 Would you like to put this in the back for me? 427 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,540 Would you like to take a little walk? 428 00:24:27,620 --> 00:24:30,740 No nuclear weapons are here, Joe. I don't like them any better than you do. 429 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,660 My kids mean everything to me. 430 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,560 I hate the fact that they were born into a world that can destroy itself. 431 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,480 And I do the work that I do to help guarantee their future. 432 00:24:42,340 --> 00:24:45,720 To me, it's naive to say that we shouldn't have civil defense. 433 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,700 History has told us there will always be wars. 434 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,600 And treaties will be broken. 435 00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:54,720 We don't really have a civil defense program, do we? No, that's right. 436 00:24:54,980 --> 00:24:57,640 We've been running in place for years while the Russians have been building. 437 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,720 And if we don't have that deterrent, if we cannot convince them that we are as 438 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,700 prepared for war as they are, I could very seriously threaten world peace. 439 00:25:06,990 --> 00:25:10,830 But no matter what civil defense we had, wouldn't the long -term effects of a 440 00:25:10,830 --> 00:25:13,310 nuclear explosion be absolutely devastating? 441 00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:19,030 Joe, look at cities like Dresden and Berlin, Hiroshima. 442 00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:20,590 They came back, didn't they? 443 00:25:21,530 --> 00:25:24,390 I grant you, a nuclear bomb is a very big explosion. 444 00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:25,930 But that's all it is. 445 00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:31,370 And every time that there is an advance in weaponry, people always say it's the 446 00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:32,370 end of the world. 447 00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:35,170 But if we don't despair, we will survive. 448 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:40,600 Even if we lost 20 % of our population, we can make it through. 449 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,340 Wait a minute, wait a minute. 450 00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:48,800 Even using your figures, 20 % is still 40 million people. 451 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,040 You find that acceptable? 452 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,700 No. I find that horrifying. 453 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,980 Well, let me understand something. You're pessimistic about people's 454 00:25:56,980 --> 00:26:01,240 the international level to work together, solve problems, and be 455 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,380 enough to avoid war. 456 00:26:02,860 --> 00:26:06,840 That's right. But at the same time, you are saying that your plan for survival 457 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,900 totally depends on the unprecedented cooperation and order of 200 million 458 00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:13,620 at a time of acute panic? 459 00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:17,060 Never underestimate the American people, Joe. 460 00:26:18,220 --> 00:26:21,300 When you told me we were invited to lunch, I thought it was a restaurant at 461 00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:22,300 top of the building. 462 00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:23,580 Where are we supposed to go? 463 00:26:23,820 --> 00:26:25,100 Maybe it's a wine cellar. 464 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,400 Hello, I'm Cynthia Termick, professor of physics at LAU. 465 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,380 We want to welcome you all to your friendly neighborhood bomb shelter. 466 00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:40,820 Most of you have probably never been inside one of these, or haven't even 467 00:26:40,820 --> 00:26:42,300 it much thought in the last 20 years, right? 468 00:26:43,580 --> 00:26:47,700 So we thought that this would make our presentation more graphic. 469 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:52,920 For those of you on your lunch hour, there are protein wafers, canned water, 470 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,060 other nuclear snacks. 471 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,820 We are going to pretend that a single... 472 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,740 A 20 -megaton bomb has exploded 16 ,000 feet above us. 473 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:07,260 There are two effects of fission -fusion bombs, blast and heat. 474 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:14,460 Within a 10 -mile radius, 1 .8 million people would be killed instantly by the 475 00:27:14,460 --> 00:27:15,460 blast. 476 00:27:15,580 --> 00:27:17,380 The heat released is enormous. 477 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:23,040 In one millionth of a second, the temperature rises to 20 ,000 times that 478 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,040 sun. 479 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,540 Steel would evaporate. 480 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,980 Cars would melt. 481 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,120 And this basement, which we have taken shelter in, would become a crematorium. 482 00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:38,080 If you were to glance at the blast, even from a distance of 14 miles, you would 483 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,280 be blinded instantly. 484 00:27:39,860 --> 00:27:43,900 Now, the heat would also create firestorms in the dry Los Angeles basin, 485 00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:47,620 would consume most of the oxygen. So that in the event that you had not been 486 00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:53,560 killed by the blast or the thermal effect, you would die of asphyxiation. 487 00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:56,040 Now, if by some fluke... 488 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,700 you did survive, you would be living in a contaminated environment. 489 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,420 Genetic mutations for 10 ,000 years. 490 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,100 Not to mention the staggering psychic shock of losing everyone that you ever 491 00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:12,080 knew. And, of course, civilization in chaos. 492 00:28:13,940 --> 00:28:18,680 It is said that the living will envy the dead. 493 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,300 Lou Grant will continue in a moment here on A &E. 494 00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:27,890 I've introduced you now the reason that we're here today. 495 00:28:28,930 --> 00:28:33,330 We are very fortunate to have with us, from Washington, Brigadier General 496 00:28:33,330 --> 00:28:35,430 Sutherland, United States Army, retired. 497 00:28:39,170 --> 00:28:41,730 I guess it's up to me to be the comic relief. 498 00:28:42,790 --> 00:28:43,910 This guy's a general? 499 00:28:44,150 --> 00:28:45,150 What's he doing here? 500 00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:46,370 Is he the other side? 501 00:28:46,570 --> 00:28:48,270 You see, he's kind of an interesting character. 502 00:28:50,510 --> 00:28:52,970 Now, we've been planning this lunch for a long time. 503 00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:57,640 Never dreaming that today's world events were going to make it so dramatic. 504 00:28:58,860 --> 00:29:03,980 Now, as you know, I'm a retired Army man. I've been in the military all my 505 00:29:04,060 --> 00:29:06,880 I'll fight with conventional force. 506 00:29:07,660 --> 00:29:09,020 I'm apolitical. 507 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:16,040 I'm here today to talk against nuclear weapons, mostly because we don't have 508 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,080 control of them anymore. 509 00:29:18,580 --> 00:29:19,580 Okay. 510 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,120 You're the press. 511 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,360 Ask your questions. 512 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,240 What do we call for dinner reservations at this place? 513 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,840 What do you mean when you say we don't have control of the weapons? 514 00:29:30,140 --> 00:29:34,160 The technology has exceeded our ability to control it. 515 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,820 Now, aside from the blast and the heat effects that you've already heard about, 516 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:45,380 thermonuclear explosions generate EMP. That's electromagnetic pulse. 517 00:29:46,060 --> 00:29:52,660 Now, that creates such a massive disturbance that one bomb exploded over 518 00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:58,060 right place in the United States would completely destroy all communication. 519 00:29:58,460 --> 00:29:59,620 General, I don't understand. 520 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:05,480 How? Telephone wires would melt. All computer memory would be wiped out. And 521 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,180 also, nuclear reactors would melt down. 522 00:30:09,500 --> 00:30:15,880 Also, EMP destroys communication between the command control and the missiles 523 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,800 themselves. So the missiles would go off target. 524 00:30:19,020 --> 00:30:20,860 Self -destruct would... 525 00:30:22,410 --> 00:30:25,390 Well, who knows what? And that's the whole point, ladies and gentlemen. 526 00:30:25,390 --> 00:30:32,330 knows. And that's why there is no such thing as a limited nuclear war. 527 00:30:33,130 --> 00:30:37,430 Well, then, General, why do some people say nuclear war can be won? 528 00:30:37,850 --> 00:30:41,850 In my view, the reasons are more political than they are scientific. 529 00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:44,890 But aren't those political reasons important? 530 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:49,090 Doesn't our survival depend on a convincing deterrent? 531 00:30:49,740 --> 00:30:54,840 Wouldn't you say that being able to destroy the Soviet Union 20 times over 532 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:55,840 convincing? 533 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,520 Let me make this very clear. 534 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,220 I'm not talking disarmament. 535 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:07,100 I'm talking nuclear reduction rather than escalation. A freeze on building 536 00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:08,820 additional warheads. 537 00:31:09,020 --> 00:31:11,180 What are you going to tell us what you've got in those boxes, General? 538 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,720 These are part of your press kits. 539 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,740 And this is a government handbook on how to deal with nuclear attack. 540 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,160 I'm going to read at random just to give you an idea of some of the wisdom 541 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,220 that's contained in here. 542 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,899 Here's one. 543 00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:28,220 In case of shock, keep the victim warm. 544 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,540 And here's another one. 545 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:38,860 In case of burns, give water, apply sterile gauze, and keep the wounds 546 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,120 You run those numbers by me again. In five days, she'll need several liters of 547 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,500 plasma, a half dozen units of whole blood, and 15, 20 units of additional IV 548 00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:57,740 fluid. That's a tremendous amount. 549 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,780 Happens every day with burns. 550 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,160 Standard treatment. 551 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,320 We have to replace the enormous fluid loss. 552 00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:08,100 Had lunch? 553 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,440 I'm not sure. What are you going to show me? 554 00:32:12,060 --> 00:32:13,060 Please. 555 00:32:21,070 --> 00:32:22,009 This is lunch. 556 00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:23,010 This is lunch. 557 00:32:25,630 --> 00:32:27,990 How are you able to cope with all of this? 558 00:32:28,810 --> 00:32:33,630 Well, I do a lot of cosmetic surgery because it pays the bill. 559 00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:36,530 But for me, this is what counts. 560 00:32:37,970 --> 00:32:39,810 But it's difficult for all of us here. 561 00:32:40,090 --> 00:32:43,610 We have mandatory group therapy sessions once a week for the nurses. 562 00:32:43,950 --> 00:32:48,270 But we're one of the few centers of this kind, so we do it. 563 00:32:48,730 --> 00:32:49,730 I'm curious. 564 00:32:50,110 --> 00:32:51,870 How many acute burn beds are there? 565 00:32:52,490 --> 00:32:55,870 In all of L .A.? Oh, maybe 75. 566 00:32:56,990 --> 00:32:58,030 In the whole country? 567 00:32:59,610 --> 00:33:00,610 1 ,200. 568 00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:01,750 1 ,200? 569 00:33:02,130 --> 00:33:03,130 That's all? 570 00:33:03,610 --> 00:33:04,610 That's all. 571 00:33:04,810 --> 00:33:07,610 Lou, I finally decided on the Greek island. 572 00:33:08,010 --> 00:33:09,010 Look at this. 573 00:33:09,390 --> 00:33:11,290 I'll look at it later. We're right on deadline. 574 00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:14,790 What do you got? 575 00:33:15,270 --> 00:33:17,870 I've got an evangelist who said the world was going to end left. 576 00:33:18,110 --> 00:33:19,470 He now claims he was a little off. 577 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,739 What else? 578 00:33:20,740 --> 00:33:23,140 I just heard they're going to test the civil defense sirens at 6. 579 00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:24,420 Oh, that's great. 580 00:33:24,660 --> 00:33:27,780 Tomorrow morning we'll be able to let everyone know that the sirens that 581 00:33:27,780 --> 00:33:29,300 the hell out of them were just a test. 582 00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:32,720 Luke, I got the man on the suite set. I'm still working on it. Here's some 583 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,720 at the supermarket. 584 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,880 Just a feeling out there. 585 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,180 Well, bottled water was out by 10 this morning. But it's funny, people I talk 586 00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:42,660 seem a little sheepish about stocking up. I noticed a lot of people copping 587 00:33:42,660 --> 00:33:44,180 their gas tanks today when I wasn't. 588 00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:51,100 By the way, I heard on my car radio they're going to test the air raid 589 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:52,099 6. We know. 590 00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:55,020 I just didn't want you to wonder if you heard it. Nobody's going to be diving 591 00:33:55,020 --> 00:33:57,100 under their desks around here without the Jermaine. 592 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,460 I just read Rosenthal's interview with the wife of the captain of the American 593 00:34:00,460 --> 00:34:03,260 tanker that's going to try to run the Soviet blockade. 594 00:34:03,740 --> 00:34:06,880 I guess she's not worried. I've been to space difficult tasks before. 595 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,480 When are they going to try to run it? Maybe tomorrow. Maybe next week. 596 00:34:11,219 --> 00:34:13,659 Next week, I'll be windsurfing off Mykonos. 597 00:34:27,469 --> 00:34:30,630 Drew Grant will continue in a moment here on A &E. 598 00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:35,790 If you thought there was going to be a nuclear attack, would you leave the 599 00:34:36,929 --> 00:34:39,989 Well, I try like crazy to get to my husband and my kids. 600 00:34:40,290 --> 00:34:43,389 You know, we have a contingency plan for when the earthquake hits. We're all 601 00:34:43,389 --> 00:34:44,409 going to meet at my sister's. 602 00:34:44,770 --> 00:34:47,030 I have some sandbags left over from the floods. 603 00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:50,850 I guess I can put them around the house, but I don't think that's going to work. 604 00:34:51,469 --> 00:34:55,630 This reminds me of the Japanese attack on Los Angeles. 605 00:34:57,070 --> 00:34:58,310 Do you remember that? 606 00:34:58,670 --> 00:35:04,490 Well, I'm not losing my marbles. I'm perfectly well aware the Japanese never 607 00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:05,490 attacked the mainland. 608 00:35:05,570 --> 00:35:08,930 But February 25th, 1942, 609 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:16,090 four local newspapers reported that they had some searchlights 610 00:35:16,090 --> 00:35:19,630 spotted a stray plane or something or other. 611 00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:23,230 Our anti -aircraft opened fire. 612 00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:27,130 And debris fell to the ground. People were terrified. 613 00:35:28,250 --> 00:35:31,550 Well, it turned out to be pieces of our own shells. 614 00:35:31,930 --> 00:35:37,410 But every newspaper in this city ran a banner headline, Los Angeles attack. 615 00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:40,470 That's what this reminds me of. Well, we've been offered a couple hundred 616 00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:43,890 thousand of these by an insurance company as a public service in the event 617 00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:44,890 nuclear emergency. 618 00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:46,810 Maybe we should go with it. 619 00:35:47,250 --> 00:35:49,930 I've talked to the people at a couple of the other papers. They're considering 620 00:35:49,930 --> 00:35:51,290 it. I'm against it. 621 00:35:51,770 --> 00:35:55,370 It's bad enough Channel 6 is showing how to build your own home shelter and 622 00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:59,970 running first symptoms of radiation sickness reports all week. So typical of 623 00:35:59,970 --> 00:36:02,630 them. You know that thing General Sutherland was talking about, the 624 00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:04,850 electromagnetic pulse that knocks out communications? 625 00:36:05,810 --> 00:36:08,590 If it would knock out Channel 6, it might almost be worth it. 626 00:36:09,310 --> 00:36:11,450 Well, I'm inclined to go with Mr. Grant. 627 00:36:12,290 --> 00:36:13,590 Let's hold off on this. 628 00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:26,940 Sure is amazing down there. 629 00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:33,800 I've kept this shelter up since 1954. 630 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,520 Changed the water, free plenty of supplies. 631 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,020 Even had to replace all the toilet paper once. 632 00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:40,780 Started a lot on me. 633 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,280 I've been ready for this for almost 30 years. 634 00:36:43,940 --> 00:36:45,840 Hey, you sound like you're almost looking forward to it. 635 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,960 Well, it's nice to see your investment pay off. 636 00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,560 How about a shot from up here? Oh, no, wait. I told you. I don't want any 637 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,560 likeness to me. 638 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,760 There are pictures of my house in the newspapers. 639 00:36:57,140 --> 00:36:58,500 I don't even want to be identified. 640 00:36:58,980 --> 00:37:02,600 You can show the interior of the shelter just fine, but I don't want my 641 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,900 neighbors to know I'm protected. There's only room for one couple down there. 642 00:37:06,220 --> 00:37:07,460 Just you and your wife? 643 00:37:08,140 --> 00:37:09,600 If she watches her step. 644 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,980 How did we get to the point of standing toe -to -toe, baring our teeth at the 645 00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:15,980 Russians, General? 646 00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:19,840 Well, from a military point of view, there were lots of options, besides what 647 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,600 we've got now, which is nuclear -equipped warships and standoffs. 648 00:37:24,090 --> 00:37:27,450 There were other ways to solve this problem. 649 00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:31,890 They could have negotiated, kept talking, at least kept the lines of 650 00:37:31,890 --> 00:37:32,990 communication open. 651 00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:36,490 So you think we could get through this impasse with the Russians by 652 00:37:37,230 --> 00:37:39,470 I'm not saying that the Russians are nice guys. 653 00:37:39,930 --> 00:37:42,250 I mean, experience has taught us that they're not. 654 00:37:42,670 --> 00:37:47,790 But our perception of each other as evil has limited our options. In fact, it's 655 00:37:47,790 --> 00:37:48,790 right up against the wall. 656 00:37:49,580 --> 00:37:53,520 Given the difficulty of dealing with the Soviet Union, what good, for instance, 657 00:37:53,660 --> 00:37:54,660 would a treaty have done? 658 00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:59,940 Well, I fully expect any treaty with the Russians to be nearly impossible to 659 00:37:59,940 --> 00:38:04,660 monitor, nearly impossible to hammer out, and damn hard to get ratified. 660 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,960 Oh, the only way that it could really happen would be for the U .S. and the 661 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,700 Soviet Union to realize that we do have a common interest, global survival. 662 00:38:15,140 --> 00:38:17,580 Can we act now to end the standoff? 663 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,760 Of course. 664 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,200 It's never too late. 665 00:38:24,540 --> 00:38:25,680 We better call a meeting. 666 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:26,759 What for? 667 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,220 Florence says a bomb exploded in the Couloir Parliament. 668 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,220 Whatever was left of the government is gone and the leftists are now in 669 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,860 They've already executed at least two of our Marines. 670 00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:37,500 If we force our hand, we're going to have to respond. 671 00:38:39,820 --> 00:38:43,540 It sounds like the bells of St. Mary's in here. Lou, this is Pinchon. 672 00:38:46,140 --> 00:38:47,140 You better read this. 673 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,180 Turn on your television, Seth. 674 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,840 One of our oil tankers has been blown up. I just saw it on the news. 675 00:38:57,060 --> 00:38:58,680 I guess it just came over the words. 676 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,860 They think it may be a mine. They're not sure. They're not even sure who did it. 677 00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:07,140 But I'm afraid we'll find it necessary to retaliate in kind. 678 00:39:08,260 --> 00:39:12,120 Mr. Grant, we're on the brink of an abyss. My God, how did we get ourselves 679 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,120 this? 680 00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:16,600 Would you favor a preemptive nuclear strike against the Soviet Union? 681 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:18,660 I suppose so. 682 00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:19,940 I mean... 683 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,880 What are we supposed to do, wait until they bomb us? 684 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,680 No, we can't do it. 685 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,620 Because it can't be done. 686 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,960 Don't tell me about my duty. I know what my duty is. 687 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,560 That was Washington. They've been telling me to expect burn victims from a 688 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,220 battlefield. They didn't say they were talking about radiation burns. 689 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,860 Radiation burns are a whole different ballgame. 690 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,120 The depth of tissue destruction is much greater. 691 00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:46,940 There's hardly any healthy tissue left. 692 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,340 Radiation destroys chromosomes, which send the message to the cells to 693 00:39:50,340 --> 00:39:54,460 reproduce. With chromosome damage, you can't replace the protein in the cells. 694 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,940 Essentially, you bleed to death. 695 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,780 There is no way we could handle thousands of radiation -burned victims 696 00:39:59,780 --> 00:40:01,900 hospital. 30 or 40 would tax all our resources. 697 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:05,160 And even then, we'd have to turn this whole hospital into a burn ward. 698 00:40:05,380 --> 00:40:06,380 So you told them no. 699 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,500 They don't know what they're dealing with. 700 00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:09,900 Dr. Lawrence? 701 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,040 Hi. 702 00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:13,340 Hi, Judy. 703 00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:15,740 We've got 644 cranes so far. 704 00:40:16,350 --> 00:40:17,990 Would you tell Sarah she's going to have her wish? 705 00:40:19,370 --> 00:40:20,370 Yeah, I will. 706 00:40:29,710 --> 00:40:32,530 Is she bleeding, Doctor? 707 00:40:33,050 --> 00:40:34,050 What? 708 00:40:35,250 --> 00:40:38,130 Oh, no. We just soaked the bandage in an iodine solution. 709 00:40:39,570 --> 00:40:40,570 How is she? 710 00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:43,630 Her leg's infected. Dr. Quo. Dr. Quo. Pseudonymous. 711 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,360 We always have to battle it in burns. 712 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,300 But when you see it, it's not a good sign. 713 00:40:51,540 --> 00:40:52,540 Can't you talk yet? 714 00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:54,760 Yes, we removed the tracheostomy too. 715 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,200 Did she say anything? 716 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,280 Yeah. 717 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,080 She said everything hurts so bad she wished she could just die. 718 00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:05,640 She asked me to give her a shot that would just let her die. 719 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,420 But of course I can't do that, nor can I medicate her effectively for the pain. 720 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,760 She could go on like that for 30 days with little relief. 721 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:21,880 Until the pseudonymous enters the bloodstream, she becomes septic, and her 722 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:22,880 little heart gives out. 723 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,920 That's how you die of burns. 724 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,380 Look, I know you guys at the phone company are having your problems, and I 725 00:41:33,380 --> 00:41:37,260 sympathize. But we're dead in the water here when the phones are screwed up. 726 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,960 I don't care if it's busier than Mother's Day. You have to take care of 727 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,060 business customers first. 728 00:41:44,220 --> 00:41:46,200 Donovan, you got some room for this? 729 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:50,480 The United States Postal Service, in the event of a nuclear attack, will issue 730 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,860 emergency change of address cards. 731 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,040 Just what I want. To get my junk mail in a mine shaft. 732 00:41:55,300 --> 00:41:59,120 Neither rain nor sleek nor radioactive fallout. How are we supposed to get 733 00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:01,080 They drop the bomb and we'll all be gone. 734 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,380 Not all according to this. 735 00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:06,230 There will be a million of us who will be alive and burned. 736 00:42:06,450 --> 00:42:09,770 I got to tell you, if I see it coming, I'm going to stand right under it. I'm 737 00:42:09,770 --> 00:42:10,769 not even going to try. 738 00:42:10,770 --> 00:42:13,490 Animal. Well, I figure if it's going to get me, let it get me fast. 739 00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:15,950 Are you still taking off for Greece tomorrow? 740 00:42:16,250 --> 00:42:20,190 If I can get to the airport, I hear it's totally jammed. So are the freeways. 741 00:42:20,730 --> 00:42:25,490 Well, if there is a nuclear holocaust, will you save me a copy of the final 742 00:42:25,490 --> 00:42:27,170 edition? It could be a collector's item. 743 00:42:29,070 --> 00:42:30,330 Well, listen, guys. 744 00:42:30,750 --> 00:42:31,750 Goodbye. 745 00:42:31,870 --> 00:42:32,870 Aloha. 746 00:42:32,900 --> 00:42:34,540 Uzo, whatever they say in Greece. 747 00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:36,260 Bye. Have fun. 748 00:42:37,460 --> 00:42:39,440 I can't believe we're having this discussion. 749 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,680 It can't happen. It's unthinkable. 750 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,580 It can't. It can't happen. Oh, shut up, Rosie. All you're doing is upsetting 751 00:42:45,580 --> 00:42:50,460 people. You love to do that, don't you? No, Billy, I don't. I really don't. 752 00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:57,080 Well, I'm going. 753 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,180 Ted should be home by now. 754 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,080 Lou, good night. 755 00:43:09,580 --> 00:43:10,580 Good night. 756 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,180 I know, Claire, the phone lines have been tied up all day. Lots of people 757 00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:20,180 calls. 758 00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:23,380 Yeah, this is really something, isn't it? 759 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,440 Listen, I just wanted to ask you, have the Baltimore papers run a first aid 760 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:30,440 supplement? 761 00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:32,400 One did, one didn't. 762 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,160 No, no, we waited went around it all day finally decided hold off. 763 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:44,620 Oh Come on Claire, it's all gonna be fine But I said New York Times read it 764 00:43:44,620 --> 00:43:45,300 I would be worried 765 00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:52,280 What 766 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:59,200 are you doing here we figured you might need us 767 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,040 no I can always tell you back in a minute 768 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,360 I just can't get up. We're hitting the freeways. 769 00:44:03,780 --> 00:44:05,420 You want to go down and get a bite of them, Kenneth? 770 00:44:05,860 --> 00:44:07,420 Yeah, go ahead. I'll catch up with you. 771 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,920 Not much happening, huh? 772 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,700 It's the clowns on Channel 6. Milkman, for all it's worth, making a big deal 773 00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:15,020 about somebody getting shot over groceries in Hollywood. 774 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,680 Oh, what else? See you in a while. 775 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,420 is guarded but favorable. 776 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,060 Oh, that's great. She'll be pleased to get this. 777 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,540 The kids have finally finished a thousand cranes. 778 00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:21,100 Oh, paper cranes. 779 00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:24,620 Uh, she'll, uh, she'll know what that means. 780 00:45:25,820 --> 00:45:27,820 Well, that's, uh, great. Thank you. 781 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:29,240 I'll tell her. 782 00:45:29,820 --> 00:45:30,820 Bye -bye. 783 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,840 Divorce, adoption, and spur -of -the -moment weddings. 784 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,380 Well, they're all part of the eccentricities of life in Hollywood. 785 00:45:55,900 --> 00:46:00,580 Carrie Fisher gives us an insider's view of life and love in Tinseltown Sunday 786 00:46:00,580 --> 00:46:04,940 in the A &E special presentation, Carrie Fisher, The Hollywood Family. 787 00:46:05,420 --> 00:46:10,460 Now, a disabled cop fights to prove he can still do the job on Police Story, 788 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,880 next on A &E. 64457

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