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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:28,670 --> 00:02:31,129 So, I've been thinking about this project 2 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:33,089 for about 20 years. 3 00:02:33,090 --> 00:02:36,009 And we're out near Prince George right now 4 00:02:36,010 --> 00:02:38,469 in central - north central British Columbia 5 00:02:38,470 --> 00:02:40,309 which happens to be the last place 6 00:02:40,310 --> 00:02:41,970 that I planted trees. 7 00:02:42,970 --> 00:02:46,389 And, I mean, I have had nightmares about tree planting, 8 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:49,269 probably about every six months for the last 20 years. 9 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:51,019 And so, it's obviously something 10 00:02:51,020 --> 00:02:53,030 that has never left me. 11 00:02:55,530 --> 00:02:57,990 Tree planting also has been uh... 12 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,159 an enormously useful training 13 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,989 for so many things in my life. 14 00:03:02,990 --> 00:03:05,539 I became a documentary photographer. 15 00:03:05,540 --> 00:03:07,619 I've photographed and worked in 16 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:10,839 a lot of really super challenging situations. 17 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,129 I mean, I walked four days through the mountains 18 00:03:13,130 --> 00:03:15,299 to Iraq in 2003. 19 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:17,259 The tree planting was probably very good training 20 00:03:17,260 --> 00:03:19,340 for doing that. 21 00:03:26,180 --> 00:03:28,479 What is the difference between the memory of something 22 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,019 and the actual reality of something? 23 00:03:31,020 --> 00:03:34,069 And I think that's why I wanted to revisit it. 24 00:03:34,070 --> 00:03:35,859 But, you know, physically, 25 00:03:35,860 --> 00:03:38,199 it really takes an enormous toll. 26 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,739 Yeah, so I thought, you know, if I don't do this now 27 00:03:40,740 --> 00:03:43,449 I'm never gonna do it. 28 00:03:43,450 --> 00:03:45,329 I wanna do a good job for the people 29 00:03:45,330 --> 00:03:47,579 who are agreeing to be part of the project 30 00:03:47,580 --> 00:03:49,119 and that's always a huge part 31 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,079 of any kind of documentary thing 32 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,039 is that you feel, okay, now people have said yes, 33 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,419 we welcome you into our world. 34 00:03:55,420 --> 00:03:57,049 You know, and I realize, 35 00:03:57,050 --> 00:03:59,049 well, we're, you know, being welcomed, 36 00:03:59,050 --> 00:04:01,049 but we are outsiders, definitely, 37 00:04:01,050 --> 00:04:04,350 and so, I really want to do a good job for them. 38 00:04:09,270 --> 00:04:11,519 So now I'm coming back and I'm meeting people 39 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,939 in these different phases of life 40 00:04:13,940 --> 00:04:15,649 and talking to them. 41 00:04:15,650 --> 00:04:19,449 And like, I started tree planning when I was 20 42 00:04:19,450 --> 00:04:21,279 and I planted until I was 30, 43 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:23,699 and I changed enormously 44 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:25,909 as an individual over that time 45 00:04:25,910 --> 00:04:27,869 in terms of feeling connected 46 00:04:27,870 --> 00:04:29,709 to a... community, 47 00:04:29,710 --> 00:04:32,789 or feeling connected to the land, 48 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:35,879 or wanting to work hard with your body, 49 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,380 or falling in love. 50 00:04:38,460 --> 00:04:42,839 And I just find different people within this community 51 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:45,099 who can speak to those different ideas 52 00:04:45,100 --> 00:04:47,180 and bring them together. 53 00:04:51,390 --> 00:04:53,979 Nobody come to see this landscape. 54 00:04:53,980 --> 00:04:56,359 We are the, the people that spend the time here 55 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,899 in this kind of land for hours and hours and hours every day. 56 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:02,160 So, we are the landscape. 57 00:05:33,690 --> 00:05:35,189 Two trucks going up 58 00:05:35,190 --> 00:05:37,570 at Farwell Canyon. 59 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:41,149 Logger goin' down 25. 60 00:05:41,150 --> 00:05:43,200 You guys can keep on coming. 61 00:06:05,890 --> 00:06:08,219 Living in this little like micro community 62 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:10,389 and like getting to know each other 63 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:12,429 and like all contributing and working together 64 00:06:12,430 --> 00:06:15,809 to be like a functioning little community. 65 00:06:15,810 --> 00:06:17,729 And we all work together, 66 00:06:17,730 --> 00:06:19,439 we all like feel each other's pain. 67 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,189 We all know what the other one's going through. 68 00:06:22,190 --> 00:06:24,610 And like, yeah. 69 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,879 Spark's like, "I can do this!" 70 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,250 Get him, Spark! You got this! 71 00:08:01,830 --> 00:08:04,840 Convoy goin' up Farwell Canyon Road at 50. 72 00:08:36,330 --> 00:08:38,699 Makes you appreciate company. 73 00:08:38,700 --> 00:08:41,330 We spend lots of time by ourself here in the block, 74 00:08:42,460 --> 00:08:44,339 for 8-9 hours a day. 75 00:08:44,340 --> 00:08:48,169 And after, we are in this kind of commune, 76 00:08:48,170 --> 00:08:51,879 or this group of... tribal commune almost. 77 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,339 And I find that's really important, 78 00:08:53,340 --> 00:08:57,930 the subculture in camp together, be together. 79 00:09:12,820 --> 00:09:16,449 Like a subculture's defined by a language, 80 00:09:16,450 --> 00:09:18,449 which we have, we have our own language. 81 00:09:18,450 --> 00:09:20,249 You know, we speak, 82 00:09:20,250 --> 00:09:22,999 we have some words that are... 83 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,420 related just to this job. 84 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:34,589 So yeah, I speak French, English, Spanish and German, 85 00:09:34,590 --> 00:09:36,849 and then um... 86 00:09:36,850 --> 00:09:38,679 can read a bit of Catalan and... 87 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:40,219 On the topic of languages, 88 00:09:40,220 --> 00:09:42,229 we were thinking about how uh... 89 00:09:42,230 --> 00:09:44,019 I know tree planting has evolved 90 00:09:44,020 --> 00:09:45,650 its own cache of words. 91 00:09:46,650 --> 00:09:50,399 A cut block is big, a big area in a planter's mind, right, 92 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,399 and where planters have to go back in and plant. 93 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,949 The block has all this kind of power 94 00:09:53,950 --> 00:09:55,949 and connotations around it, you know? 95 00:09:55,950 --> 00:09:59,739 Like a tough day on the block, big day on the block. 96 00:09:59,740 --> 00:10:01,619 Bag up - you put all the trees, all the seedlings 97 00:10:01,620 --> 00:10:03,249 that you're taking in your bags 98 00:10:03,250 --> 00:10:05,419 and you go in, you plant, and that's one bag up. 99 00:10:05,420 --> 00:10:06,749 Your cache is where your trees are, 100 00:10:06,750 --> 00:10:08,539 so every time you finish your bag up, 101 00:10:08,540 --> 00:10:10,250 you gotta go back to your cache. 102 00:10:11,460 --> 00:10:13,259 "Darts" for cigarettes. 103 00:10:13,260 --> 00:10:15,219 When you're at the cache, you realize that 104 00:10:15,220 --> 00:10:17,089 there's nicer things in life than tree planting. 105 00:10:17,090 --> 00:10:19,559 You know, you have a dart at your cache break, you know. 106 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:22,139 So you have a little cache party - cache bash. 107 00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:23,849 And you don't wanna cache bash that much 108 00:10:23,850 --> 00:10:25,849 'cause you'll, you'll waste a lot of time 109 00:10:25,850 --> 00:10:27,559 and you won't make as much money. 110 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:30,149 Oh, the shitters, that's where we shit. 111 00:10:30,150 --> 00:10:32,899 We dig holes in the ground and um... 112 00:10:32,900 --> 00:10:34,779 you shit there while you're at that campsite 113 00:10:34,780 --> 00:10:36,239 and then you fill it in. 114 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,529 There was an old word back in the logging days 115 00:10:38,530 --> 00:10:41,789 when the guy who cut down the most trees was a high baller, 116 00:10:41,790 --> 00:10:45,119 and so the planting industry kind of adopted that term. 117 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,869 And so, usually, I think in a lot of camps, 118 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:49,459 there's a mystique around being the high baller, you know. 119 00:10:49,460 --> 00:10:51,459 Everyone wants to emulate them, do what they... 120 00:10:51,460 --> 00:10:53,299 you know, do what they do. 121 00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:54,879 They'll see what they pack in their lunch, you know? 122 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,357 Like what they do with the cache, that kind of thing. 123 00:10:57,970 --> 00:11:00,049 Wow! Really? There's no one else here 124 00:11:00,050 --> 00:11:01,890 that planted more trees than me? 125 00:11:04,180 --> 00:11:05,519 Tree planting is tough. 126 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,099 Actually, if you can endure tree planting, 127 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:11,480 there is not any job, in a town, you will not do. 128 00:11:15,110 --> 00:11:16,649 Hey, man, how was your first year? 129 00:11:16,650 --> 00:11:20,029 - Uh, my first year was shitty. - Oh my gosh, yeah. 130 00:11:20,030 --> 00:11:23,579 It was not good, because... 131 00:11:23,580 --> 00:11:25,579 I cried. 132 00:11:25,580 --> 00:11:27,959 People were teaching me how to do tree planting. 133 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,379 They were so fast, so I try to be like them. 134 00:11:31,380 --> 00:11:32,959 How about yours? 135 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,799 First year? Oh man, I was terrible. 136 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,589 I was an awful rooky - 137 00:11:36,590 --> 00:11:39,589 slow, plodding, didn't care what I hit. 138 00:11:39,590 --> 00:11:43,309 I was probably the third worst in probably the camp. 139 00:11:43,310 --> 00:11:46,389 So how did you become a good planter then? 140 00:11:46,390 --> 00:11:50,229 My first year someone told me how to plant a lot of trees 141 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:51,859 and I hated him for it, 142 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:54,779 because all he told me to do was go fast. 143 00:11:54,780 --> 00:11:57,399 That was his advice and I hate him for it, 144 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,159 but he was so damn right. 145 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,160 Don't slow down, just go fast. 146 00:12:03,530 --> 00:12:05,619 - Yeah. - But that doesn't take 147 00:12:05,620 --> 00:12:08,210 a little amount of practice, that takes a lot of work. 148 00:12:36,230 --> 00:12:38,569 This is Sally, who we've been photographing 149 00:12:38,570 --> 00:12:41,449 for the last maybe hour or so. 150 00:12:41,450 --> 00:12:44,239 Uh, she's a pounder. I think she's at like 8... 151 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,289 She just put in 1800 trees 152 00:12:46,290 --> 00:12:48,579 and it's only 4:00, 153 00:12:48,580 --> 00:12:52,329 and it's pretty tough land as you can see. 154 00:12:52,330 --> 00:12:55,750 And, uh, there she goes. Awesome. 155 00:15:13,310 --> 00:15:15,559 Everyone keeps telling me it's going to get easier. 156 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,520 I'm still waiting for that day. 157 00:15:21,270 --> 00:15:23,729 Yeah, it's been a struggle. 158 00:15:23,730 --> 00:15:26,109 You start getting into what you think is a good rhythm, 159 00:15:26,110 --> 00:15:28,529 and maybe it seems like it's going really well, 160 00:15:28,530 --> 00:15:30,069 and then suddenly you start hitting rocks 161 00:15:30,070 --> 00:15:32,579 and that's when things start to fall apart - 162 00:15:32,580 --> 00:15:33,869 when it's not like quick and easy 163 00:15:33,870 --> 00:15:36,159 to figure out where to put the shovel. 164 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,999 And I definitely seem to be able to find all the rocks 165 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,090 and all the bad spots so. 166 00:15:43,460 --> 00:15:45,459 Um, then, once that happens, 167 00:15:45,460 --> 00:15:48,590 it's like it just starts to derail, I guess. 168 00:15:51,470 --> 00:15:53,639 Yeah, I mean it could be worse. That's always the... 169 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,599 that's always the key. - Yeah. 170 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,349 It could be worse. 171 00:15:57,350 --> 00:16:00,189 The, uh, the bugs are having a good day though. 172 00:16:00,190 --> 00:16:02,230 Yeah, they're havin' a ballin' day. 173 00:16:08,650 --> 00:16:10,449 You're just planting along 174 00:16:10,450 --> 00:16:14,370 and you have this constant like bzz-bzz-bzz-bzz. 175 00:16:41,810 --> 00:16:44,980 - Oh yeah, Deet. Powerful. - Feels good. 176 00:16:56,580 --> 00:16:58,249 Yeah, it's been... 177 00:16:58,250 --> 00:17:00,289 I think it's one of the hardest things I've done. 178 00:17:00,290 --> 00:17:02,039 And I just remember sitting in the truck 179 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,829 thinking, like, "What have I done? 180 00:17:03,830 --> 00:17:05,839 What have I gotten myself into?" 181 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,839 I was just like, "I just wanna go home." 182 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,839 Hasn't even started yet and you're like, "I'm done!" 183 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,839 It'd be like a two-hour truck ride 184 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,679 and the camp friends talking to me. 185 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,599 I'm just there like, "I just need to go home. 186 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,679 Like I can't be here." - The question is, 187 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,560 are you coming back? Both: 188 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,559 Oh yeah, so it's pretty funny. 189 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,149 Like when I came back 190 00:17:24,150 --> 00:17:26,189 like the first thing that a lot of people said was, 191 00:17:26,190 --> 00:17:28,029 "I can't believe you're back," 192 00:17:28,030 --> 00:17:30,859 and you know, "Why would you come back?" 193 00:17:30,860 --> 00:17:34,069 And in the off season, I don't know, 194 00:17:34,070 --> 00:17:36,579 you kind of forget about all the bad things 195 00:17:36,580 --> 00:17:38,619 and start remembering all the good. 196 00:17:38,620 --> 00:17:41,749 And even the bad things kind of become funny. 197 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:45,039 So, in this season, I've gotten, I've gotten tendo, 198 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,589 second degree burns on over 20% of my body, 199 00:17:48,590 --> 00:17:51,879 back spasms so bad that my leg is jerking, 200 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,720 and my hip chafe has become infected. 201 00:17:56,090 --> 00:17:59,349 I kind of felt like I had to come back and do it again 202 00:17:59,350 --> 00:18:02,679 and do it a better way than I did last year. 203 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,599 So it's kind of like I had to redeem myself. 204 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,650 And then also I, you know, need to pay rent. 205 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,449 A lot of people don't really understand what planting is. 206 00:18:14,450 --> 00:18:17,949 In my first year, when I planted 700 trees, 207 00:18:17,950 --> 00:18:21,119 I told my Dad, like I called him on a day off, 208 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:23,999 and he was like, "Oh my God, like that's amazing!" 209 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,919 It's like, "No, like that's not even minimum wage." 210 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,749 And, you know, he goes, 211 00:18:28,750 --> 00:18:31,089 "There's no way you could plant more than 700 trees." 212 00:18:31,090 --> 00:18:33,300 And it's like, "Well, I have to." 213 00:18:35,630 --> 00:18:38,049 Last year I was worst planter. 214 00:18:38,050 --> 00:18:41,099 This year I'm the most mediocre planter. 215 00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:44,939 Definitely been balled by some rookies this year, which hurt, 216 00:18:44,940 --> 00:18:47,229 'cause I thought I was gonna come back 217 00:18:47,230 --> 00:18:50,229 and just plant 2,000 trees right off the bat. 218 00:18:50,230 --> 00:18:52,820 And that's obviously not realistic to think of. 219 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,949 It's kind of frustrating. 220 00:18:58,950 --> 00:19:02,659 It's also nice to see other people succeed at their goals. 221 00:19:02,660 --> 00:19:06,459 But it definitely sucks when you get balled by people 222 00:19:06,460 --> 00:19:09,670 who have been planting for like a couple of weeks 223 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,799 and they're already better than you. 224 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,049 But I'm getting there. I'm getting better. 225 00:19:15,050 --> 00:19:18,389 It's slow. I'm a slow learner, for sure, 226 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:20,469 but it takes time, I guess. 227 00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:22,469 Like this is kind of like my second year 228 00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:24,140 of being a rookie, I feel like. 229 00:19:25,140 --> 00:19:28,729 But I love the look on people's faces at the end of the day 230 00:19:28,730 --> 00:19:31,319 when everyone is talking about numbers 231 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,979 and then I just drop it in. 232 00:19:32,980 --> 00:19:34,989 I'm like, "Well, I hit the bare minimum today," 233 00:19:34,990 --> 00:19:38,569 and it kind of releases that air of competitivity. 234 00:19:38,570 --> 00:19:41,989 And it's just nice to kind of see people's faces perk up 235 00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:44,489 'cause maybe they didn't have a good day either. 236 00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:47,159 And it's like, "Well, I get to treat myself today 237 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,629 'cause I did the bare minimum" and stuff like that 238 00:19:49,630 --> 00:19:53,249 and people kind of realize that it's not the end of the world 239 00:19:53,250 --> 00:19:56,090 if today you didn't have a great day. 240 00:19:58,010 --> 00:20:00,009 Every time I wanna go home, 241 00:20:00,010 --> 00:20:03,719 I realize that I'm not really qualified for any, any job 242 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,679 that pays above minimum wage. 243 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,429 I count my numbers at the end of the day 244 00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:10,440 and I realize I made more than minimum wage. 245 00:20:11,650 --> 00:20:14,569 So it's... it might feel like I suck, 246 00:20:14,570 --> 00:20:18,400 but I'm still making more than I would in a retail position, 247 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,620 and I'm outside doing it, which is so nice. 248 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,119 Maybe I don't plant a lot of trees every day, 249 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:31,879 but I'm here, I'm putting everything I have in here. 250 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,880 And I don't see it as I have bad luck. 251 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,799 It's just I go through life differently than other people. 252 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,180 And it's not always the right path that I take, 253 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:44,929 but I get there, you know? 254 00:20:44,930 --> 00:20:47,179 And I reach the same goals that other people reach, 255 00:20:47,180 --> 00:20:49,690 just on a different time scale. 256 00:20:58,780 --> 00:21:00,489 I still cry a lot, 257 00:21:00,490 --> 00:21:03,449 but it's definitely made me stronger emotionally. 258 00:21:03,450 --> 00:21:05,739 I definitely am able to cope with it 259 00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:08,789 and kind of remember that it's just planting. 260 00:21:08,790 --> 00:21:10,749 It's not the end of the world. 261 00:21:10,750 --> 00:21:12,789 And sometimes it feels that way and it's crazy 262 00:21:12,790 --> 00:21:14,879 'cause all you're doing is opening a hole 263 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,209 and putting a tree in. 264 00:21:16,210 --> 00:21:18,089 But it's like, I think, emotionally, 265 00:21:18,090 --> 00:21:20,629 one of the hardest jobs people will ever do. 266 00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:22,469 And people ask you, you know, 267 00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:24,929 "Oh, are you havin' fun savin' the planet and stuff?" 268 00:21:24,930 --> 00:21:26,850 And it's like, "No." 269 00:21:27,890 --> 00:21:29,639 No, I think this is gruelling 270 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,730 and I wanna go home most days. 271 00:21:51,870 --> 00:21:53,829 Your piece is your personal slice of land 272 00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:55,669 you're responsible for planting over the next day 273 00:21:55,670 --> 00:21:57,129 or several days. 274 00:21:57,130 --> 00:21:59,879 You cut your piece by flagging a boundary line into the block. 275 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,379 You're responsible for the quality 276 00:22:01,380 --> 00:22:03,930 and density of all the trees in your piece. 277 00:22:05,550 --> 00:22:08,890 Yeah, that's a friggin' art form - cutting a line in. 278 00:22:15,230 --> 00:22:17,149 The crew has to stand there and they'll be like, 279 00:22:17,150 --> 00:22:19,269 "Start here. "And they're like, "You see that tall tree 280 00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:21,189 with like the green leaves?" 281 00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:24,569 And you're like, "I see fuckin' 500 of them." 282 00:22:24,570 --> 00:22:26,909 And then they're like, "No, 283 00:22:26,910 --> 00:22:29,159 but that one with like the little red bush." 284 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,329 And then you're like, "Yeah," 'cause you think you see it. 285 00:22:31,330 --> 00:22:33,039 You're like, "Yeah, yeah, I got it." 286 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,169 "Go towards that one, high flag everything." 287 00:22:35,170 --> 00:22:36,919 So you're like, "Yeah." 288 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,459 You're looking, you're flagging, 289 00:22:38,460 --> 00:22:40,169 you're looking and you're flagging, 290 00:22:40,170 --> 00:22:42,169 and you're looking and suddenly you're like, 291 00:22:42,170 --> 00:22:44,219 "Uh-oh, where did it go?" 292 00:22:44,220 --> 00:22:46,720 - "Oh no, I lost it!" - You got too close. 293 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,269 Throwing a plot is how you make sure 294 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:55,190 the trees are being planted properly. 295 00:22:56,190 --> 00:22:58,019 You punch your shovel into the ground 296 00:22:58,020 --> 00:22:59,309 and then you walk around in a circle 297 00:22:59,310 --> 00:23:01,359 and you count the trees and... 298 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:03,400 check the trees that are in that circle. 299 00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:07,449 They have to be planted perfectly 300 00:23:07,450 --> 00:23:09,280 or you have to go back and fix it. 301 00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:18,209 It can't be too deep. It can't be too shallow. 302 00:23:18,210 --> 00:23:21,040 It can't be in ground that's too wet or too dry. 303 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,380 It's gotta be just right. 304 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,579 Tree planting is piecework, 305 00:23:58,580 --> 00:24:00,790 paid cents per tree, 306 00:24:02,540 --> 00:24:05,260 depending on the difficulty of the land. 307 00:24:14,060 --> 00:24:15,769 You keep track of the number of trees you plant 308 00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:17,850 in a tally book. 309 00:25:31,340 --> 00:25:34,339 It's pretty dangerous for tree planters to come out here. 310 00:25:34,340 --> 00:25:37,889 And I know that some effort is put into 311 00:25:37,890 --> 00:25:40,350 making the roads safe and accessible, but uh... 312 00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:44,649 it's crazy, slippery, 313 00:25:44,650 --> 00:25:46,819 dangerous, dangerous roads 314 00:25:46,820 --> 00:25:48,899 just to get access to these... 315 00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:52,989 these incredible remote logged areas 316 00:25:52,990 --> 00:25:54,860 up in the mountains. 317 00:25:56,490 --> 00:25:58,539 So the overflow is a block 318 00:25:58,540 --> 00:26:00,999 that wasn't intended to be planted that year, 319 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,999 but if the trees from the other blocks don't all fit, 320 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,789 they will usually go to an overflow block 321 00:26:06,790 --> 00:26:08,629 to finish up the contract. 322 00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:10,459 Hi Rita, you gotta back up. 323 00:26:10,460 --> 00:26:12,969 - Okay. - I gotta go to the overflow. 324 00:26:12,970 --> 00:26:15,719 Oh, you guys are going to the overflow. 325 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,720 Oh, you're kidding. 326 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:29,749 There's one word for good land, which is cream, 327 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:31,459 and then there's a million words for bad land. 328 00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:34,129 So, shit or shwack, garbage. 329 00:27:34,130 --> 00:27:36,219 Shnarb, I think, is probably one of the most important ones. 330 00:27:36,220 --> 00:27:38,549 It's like big piles of sticks and brush. 331 00:27:38,550 --> 00:27:40,799 Duffy when it's all kind of like needles 332 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,349 and it's not real soil, 333 00:27:42,350 --> 00:27:44,019 and you have to like punch through it. 334 00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:45,809 A slash pile is basically when there's... 335 00:27:45,810 --> 00:27:48,309 a big amalgamation of logs that have been leftover 336 00:27:48,310 --> 00:27:50,229 and weren't taken by the logging company. 337 00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:51,649 And they can look quite imposing 338 00:27:51,650 --> 00:27:53,649 and sometimes they can block the entrance to your piece. 339 00:27:53,650 --> 00:27:56,069 Slash is typically not a planter's friend. 340 00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:57,819 Usually, you have to climb over it, 341 00:27:57,820 --> 00:27:59,909 crawl through it, push it to the side. 342 00:27:59,910 --> 00:28:01,489 It stands between you and... 343 00:28:01,490 --> 00:28:03,489 and moving through your land efficiently. 344 00:28:03,490 --> 00:28:06,369 Screefing is when you like kick off all the dirt and dust 345 00:28:06,370 --> 00:28:07,749 on top of the ground 346 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:10,250 and get down to that sweet, creamy mineral soil. 347 00:28:19,930 --> 00:28:22,850 Welcome to the shovel show with Paddy. 348 00:28:42,370 --> 00:28:44,830 They look like garden tools, but they're not. 349 00:29:14,310 --> 00:29:15,569 These shovels are weapons, 350 00:29:15,570 --> 00:29:18,189 they're toys, money makers. 351 00:29:18,190 --> 00:29:22,069 Go right through, right back, tree, out. 352 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:24,949 There is no hit-hit. 353 00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:27,329 There's no like wiggle-wiggle around in there 354 00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:28,749 to make it bigger. 355 00:29:28,750 --> 00:29:32,209 It's a huge fuckin' hole that this thing makes. 356 00:29:32,210 --> 00:29:34,580 Such a nice grip, it's incredible. 357 00:30:06,450 --> 00:30:09,489 So, this is my baby. I hardly ever use it 358 00:30:09,490 --> 00:30:11,289 and no one will ever touch that 359 00:30:11,290 --> 00:30:13,250 because I love that thing so much. 360 00:30:15,460 --> 00:30:18,340 I love that shovel. I love all my shovels. 361 00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:34,479 You're out in the block all by yourself 362 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,149 and you don't see anybody all day. 363 00:30:36,150 --> 00:30:39,149 All you have are your trees and your land. 364 00:30:39,150 --> 00:30:41,229 And I always thought that everyone else 365 00:30:41,230 --> 00:30:43,029 was planting more than me 366 00:30:43,030 --> 00:30:44,819 and going faster than me. 367 00:30:44,820 --> 00:30:46,989 And that would push me and I would just be like, 368 00:30:46,990 --> 00:30:48,619 "You're too slow, you're too slow. 369 00:30:48,620 --> 00:30:50,409 Everybody's ahead of you." 370 00:30:50,410 --> 00:30:52,199 And I would just like work and work and work 371 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,159 and at the end of the day I would feel like 372 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,289 I had just fucking blown it and I was a complete loser. 373 00:30:57,290 --> 00:31:00,169 And then I would go home or get on the bus 374 00:31:00,170 --> 00:31:02,259 and find out that, you know, not only... 375 00:31:02,260 --> 00:31:05,009 like maybe I'd even highballed the camp. 376 00:31:05,010 --> 00:31:07,389 And it's a strange kind of motivating thing, 377 00:31:07,390 --> 00:31:10,179 the sense that you're never, you're no... 378 00:31:10,180 --> 00:31:11,849 you're never doing good enough. 379 00:31:11,850 --> 00:31:13,679 So there's always the sense of urgency 380 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,689 and you always have in your gut this kind of feeling 381 00:31:16,690 --> 00:31:19,059 that you have to work harder and better, 382 00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:22,529 and you have to be more prepared for every moment, 383 00:31:22,530 --> 00:31:25,739 and it's one tree at a time - 384 00:31:25,740 --> 00:31:29,449 you keep going regardless of feeling discouraged. 385 00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:31,489 You just can't let yourself think about that. 386 00:31:31,490 --> 00:31:34,079 It's just the next thing, plant the next tree. 387 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,709 And at the end of the day, you've planted all your bags, 388 00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:40,589 you've filled in some land, you've made some money 389 00:31:40,590 --> 00:31:43,549 and you know, you plant trees for ten years 390 00:31:43,550 --> 00:31:45,840 and you've planted a forest. 391 00:32:26,510 --> 00:32:29,339 There are so many powerful women here that just do it 392 00:32:29,340 --> 00:32:31,429 and they rock it, and like they highball, 393 00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:33,389 and no one can argue with that. 394 00:32:33,390 --> 00:32:36,599 Like you can't take that away from us. 395 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,559 And I think that that's really important 396 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,559 because I think you'll go a lot of places in the real world 397 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,559 and they'll be like, "Oh, she's only given an opportunity 398 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,069 because she's a woman." 399 00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:46,569 But here, it's like women excel and we're everywhere. 400 00:32:46,570 --> 00:32:49,239 We're in management, we're like planters, 401 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,109 we're deliverers, we're checkers 402 00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:54,330 and we're just killin' it all around and it's ours. 403 00:32:55,330 --> 00:32:56,789 - The camp needs us. - Yeah, absolutely. 404 00:32:56,790 --> 00:33:00,040 Like I think we really... yeah, we're needed. 405 00:33:02,790 --> 00:33:05,379 We're cowgirls. Like we literally are. 406 00:33:05,380 --> 00:33:07,959 We're doing a job that for so long 407 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,969 has just been dominated by men. 408 00:33:09,970 --> 00:33:13,389 And I think like the fact that my crew and your crew's 409 00:33:13,390 --> 00:33:16,429 just predominantly women, it's so special, 410 00:33:16,430 --> 00:33:19,019 and we can talk about whatever we want. 411 00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:21,059 Like we relate to each other so easily 412 00:33:21,060 --> 00:33:25,359 simply because we have the equal struggle 413 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,150 of like being a woman, and like that's pretty freeing. 414 00:33:51,510 --> 00:33:53,889 - 70 percent pine. - Ewww! 415 00:33:53,890 --> 00:33:56,889 - 20 percent spruce. - Woo! 416 00:33:56,890 --> 00:33:58,599 10 percent fir. 417 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,850 Ooooh. 418 00:34:15,530 --> 00:34:18,579 ♪ The sun breaks and I can't wait ♪ 419 00:34:18,580 --> 00:34:21,080 ♪ 'Til I'll be on my way again ♪ 420 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,999 ♪ I'm sick and tired of waiting ♪ 421 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,710 ♪ With nothing to do ♪ 422 00:34:29,550 --> 00:34:32,919 ♪ Watching the rain through a crack in the window ♪ 423 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,049 ♪ It's the little things get you through ♪ 424 00:34:36,050 --> 00:34:38,969 ♪ Like the same sun rising on me ♪ 425 00:34:38,970 --> 00:34:41,020 ♪ Is rising over you ♪ 426 00:34:43,140 --> 00:34:46,599 ♪ Oh-oh-oh walking and talking ♪ 427 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,020 ♪ Like birds in the sky ♪ 428 00:34:50,650 --> 00:34:53,649 ♪ You tell your secrets ♪ 429 00:34:53,650 --> 00:34:56,609 ♪ How gracefully you lie ♪ 430 00:34:56,610 --> 00:34:57,780 ♪ Oh-oh-oh ♪ 431 00:34:57,781 --> 00:35:00,619 ♪ That's the way you come to me ♪ 432 00:35:00,620 --> 00:35:02,539 ♪ I'm head over heels ♪ 433 00:35:02,540 --> 00:35:04,749 ♪ And I'm always gonna be ♪ 434 00:35:04,750 --> 00:35:06,119 ♪ That's okay, ♪ 435 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920 ♪ I love the way you come to me ♪ 436 00:35:36,490 --> 00:35:38,320 I mean, the first three days were... 437 00:35:39,820 --> 00:35:42,829 yeah, I cried. I cried a lot. 438 00:35:42,830 --> 00:35:46,659 It was usually, you know, after they would leave, 439 00:35:46,660 --> 00:35:48,709 Um, it was just like, fuck, 440 00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:51,289 I, I, I had no idea how 441 00:35:51,290 --> 00:35:53,339 we we're gonna have dinner ready for tonight, 442 00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:55,969 let alone how I'm gonna be able to do this 443 00:35:55,970 --> 00:35:58,630 for the entire season. It was, it was crazy. 444 00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:03,719 I think the biggest thing from the get-go is the volume. 445 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,639 That's, that's what you figure out first. 446 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,309 Um, 'cause tree planters... 447 00:36:07,310 --> 00:36:09,309 so say you're cooking for 91 people, 448 00:36:09,310 --> 00:36:10,979 but you're not cooking for 91 people. 449 00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:13,479 You're closer, you're cooking for more like 200. 450 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,649 Um, tree planters eat 451 00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:17,819 at least twice the amount 452 00:36:17,820 --> 00:36:19,569 as your average person, 453 00:36:19,570 --> 00:36:22,739 and getting used to that was the biggest thing. 454 00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:25,579 Uh, so, I mean, the first, the first week, 455 00:36:25,580 --> 00:36:27,999 yeah, I would go to bed and just... 456 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,209 just lay there in the dark 457 00:36:30,210 --> 00:36:32,289 and just like really... 458 00:36:32,290 --> 00:36:34,169 I really wasn't, really wasn't sure 459 00:36:34,170 --> 00:36:35,759 if I was gonna be able to do it. 460 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,419 I really, I really didn't, I really wasn't sure. 461 00:36:37,420 --> 00:36:39,879 And I, I would usually... usually cry once at night 462 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,139 and then once again in the morning. 463 00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:43,219 Me and Graham would just look at each other and... 464 00:36:43,220 --> 00:36:45,809 just put my head in my hands and be like, "Holy fuck. 465 00:36:45,810 --> 00:36:47,810 What just happened?" 466 00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:50,769 This whole job is mountains and valleys. 467 00:36:50,770 --> 00:36:52,019 It's an emotional roller coaster. 468 00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:54,109 You know, you just push through, you just push. 469 00:36:54,110 --> 00:36:56,779 You just, you just focus on that, that next hour, 470 00:36:56,780 --> 00:36:58,779 that next minute, whatever you're doing, 471 00:36:58,780 --> 00:37:00,199 that one task. 472 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,160 One at a time, one step at a time. 473 00:37:34,690 --> 00:37:36,319 So I'm a registered nurse. 474 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,739 I am sort of like a first aid attendant in camp. 475 00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:42,779 My job is a lot of basically tending to 476 00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:46,330 any planting injury or wound that comes in the door. 477 00:37:47,410 --> 00:37:50,619 I'm sort of the person that people come to see about it 478 00:37:50,620 --> 00:37:53,669 and I do my best to deal with it. 479 00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:55,579 It's a lot of physio taping 480 00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:57,959 and lot of wounds, 481 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,799 open wounds. Like a lot of wounds. 482 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,220 A lot of Polysporin and a lot of bandaging. 483 00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:08,219 It gets pretty nasty. 484 00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:10,809 And tree planters are definitely like... 485 00:38:10,810 --> 00:38:12,100 a special, special, 486 00:38:13,140 --> 00:38:15,860 resilient, like gritty bunch of people. 487 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,819 You really have to... 488 00:38:19,820 --> 00:38:22,449 learn to respect and trust your body, 489 00:38:22,450 --> 00:38:24,360 and you have to take care of yourself. 490 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,119 Tree planting is like a combination 491 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,540 between industrial labour and extreme sports. 492 00:38:41,130 --> 00:38:43,339 A lot of people get really frustrated, I think, 493 00:38:43,340 --> 00:38:46,259 when they're injured and their body isn't doing, 494 00:38:46,260 --> 00:38:48,720 quite what they want it to do. 495 00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,139 And so, I think that's where that frustration 496 00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:54,639 and just the hate comes in. 497 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,979 And like I think it's just a... 498 00:38:56,980 --> 00:38:58,860 a lesson in self-respect. 499 00:41:02,690 --> 00:41:04,319 People want to challenge themselves, 500 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,149 challenge their bodies, and so they push themselves. 501 00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:09,820 And it's insanity 502 00:41:10,860 --> 00:41:12,449 and, um, 503 00:41:12,450 --> 00:41:15,119 self, self-loathing maybe. 504 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,949 It's definitely a struggle for a lot of people. 505 00:41:17,950 --> 00:41:19,459 It's like a love-hate relationship 506 00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:21,459 because your body's your tool. 507 00:41:21,460 --> 00:41:24,499 You're using it to make money, but - and do your job - 508 00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:28,460 but sometimes it's fighting against you out there. 509 00:42:51,380 --> 00:42:53,129 This is a job that hurts 510 00:42:53,130 --> 00:42:54,969 and no one's making you be here. 511 00:42:54,970 --> 00:42:57,550 So, you have to like it a little bit. 512 00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:02,179 People say all the time, like you can't be a tree planter 513 00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:04,389 unless you kind of like pain. 514 00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:06,979 There's this kind of idea around, um, 515 00:43:06,980 --> 00:43:09,269 like planting without gloves is more hardcore, 516 00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:12,189 and like that kind of pain, like people like that. 517 00:43:12,190 --> 00:43:13,739 Like when you get really cut up 518 00:43:13,740 --> 00:43:15,949 you're kind of proud of it. 519 00:43:15,950 --> 00:43:17,409 It can be healthy and it cannot be healthy. 520 00:43:17,410 --> 00:43:19,409 I think that also comes with knowing your body, 521 00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:22,750 knowing when something hurts too much. 522 00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:25,579 There's a difference between being in pain 523 00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:27,419 and hitting your limit. 524 00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:29,209 That's like something that rookies 525 00:43:29,210 --> 00:43:31,299 have to learn really fast, 526 00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:32,839 because then you get injured. 527 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,602 You have to know what kind of pain that your body can take. 528 00:43:38,090 --> 00:43:40,099 Well, I started self-harming when I was pretty young 529 00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:41,679 for about ten years. 530 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,640 It kinda peaked when I was 16 or 17. 531 00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:47,729 Everything is so overwhelming 532 00:43:47,730 --> 00:43:50,109 that you feel like you have no other way of doing things. 533 00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:52,109 I didn't really think of it as a problem at the time 534 00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:54,109 because I was always really functional. 535 00:43:54,110 --> 00:43:55,529 I was always working really hard. 536 00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:57,699 And if you didn't know me it wouldn't look like 537 00:43:57,700 --> 00:43:59,659 there was very much that was wrong with me, 538 00:43:59,660 --> 00:44:01,450 which is ridiculous. 539 00:44:04,540 --> 00:44:07,790 It took me a long time to get comfortable wearing a t-shirt. 540 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,959 People don't really know how to react. 541 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,839 Um, people usually don't ask me about it 542 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,210 because people usually don't know how. 543 00:44:17,010 --> 00:44:19,299 And I was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder 544 00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:20,759 around that time, 545 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,639 which is definitely interesting to have planting. 546 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,019 Because everyone talks about the highs and lows of planting, 547 00:44:27,020 --> 00:44:28,849 how one of the things that they like 548 00:44:28,850 --> 00:44:32,019 and they find really refreshing is like you see everyone 549 00:44:32,020 --> 00:44:34,109 at every point in their day and in their life, 550 00:44:34,110 --> 00:44:36,569 like their highest highs and their lowest lows. 551 00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:38,859 And that's not something that they get anywhere else, 552 00:44:38,860 --> 00:44:40,949 whereas, for me, I feel that every day, 553 00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:42,780 it doesn't matter where I am. 554 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,249 For people who deal with depression and anxiety, 555 00:44:46,250 --> 00:44:49,040 like problems feel so big and vague. 556 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,079 Sometimes it's easy for small problems 557 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,749 to feel like the end of the world. 558 00:44:54,750 --> 00:44:57,009 And tree planting is, I think, really good for that 559 00:44:57,010 --> 00:44:59,049 because your problems are right in front of you. 560 00:44:59,050 --> 00:45:01,139 Okay, the land is bad. Okay, there's a lot of slash. 561 00:45:01,140 --> 00:45:03,049 Okay, my bags are heavy. 562 00:45:03,050 --> 00:45:05,809 Like all of your problems are so... 563 00:45:05,810 --> 00:45:07,519 I don't wanna say easy to deal with, 564 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,389 but they're right in front of you 565 00:45:09,390 --> 00:45:11,099 and, at the end of the day, they're gone. 566 00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:13,059 And I think that's almost refreshing for people 567 00:45:13,060 --> 00:45:15,519 whose problems never go away 568 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,649 is you get to finish a day and it was... 569 00:45:17,650 --> 00:45:19,279 even if it was really hard 570 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,159 and even if you had the worst day ever, 571 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,989 it ends. 572 00:45:22,990 --> 00:45:25,199 For, I think for any young person 573 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,829 spending eight plus hours a day 574 00:45:27,830 --> 00:45:30,039 every single day for months 575 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,209 in your own head can be very valuable. 576 00:45:33,210 --> 00:45:35,379 Um, I think we live in an environment 577 00:45:35,380 --> 00:45:37,549 that's so fast paced, 578 00:45:37,550 --> 00:45:39,589 and so overwhelming 579 00:45:39,590 --> 00:45:42,549 that we don't get to think a lot about like our lives. 580 00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:44,389 In your twenties, like you don't know 581 00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:45,889 what the fuck is going on. 582 00:45:45,890 --> 00:45:48,099 Like everyone is so confused all the time 583 00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:50,849 and I think everyone pretends to know what they're doing 584 00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:52,769 and tells people they know what they're doing, 585 00:45:52,770 --> 00:45:54,349 but like nobody knows what they're doing. 586 00:45:54,350 --> 00:45:55,440 You don't know what you're doing. 587 00:45:55,441 --> 00:45:58,069 You just hope that it works out. 588 00:45:58,070 --> 00:46:00,069 Tree planting has definitely made me 589 00:46:00,070 --> 00:46:01,949 a more interesting person 590 00:46:01,950 --> 00:46:03,909 and a better person 591 00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:06,579 because you just have so much time 592 00:46:06,580 --> 00:46:08,739 to think about the things that you're doing, 593 00:46:08,740 --> 00:46:11,250 and I don't think a lot of people get that time. 594 00:46:47,950 --> 00:46:51,449 My first year of planting was 1985. 595 00:46:51,450 --> 00:46:55,369 I'm 60 years old... 596 00:46:55,370 --> 00:46:56,750 and uh... 597 00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:00,799 I'm starting to slow down a bit. 598 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,380 My knees are starting to hurt more than they used to. 599 00:47:12,020 --> 00:47:15,189 I'm in my third season. My first season was 2014. 600 00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:17,189 Uh, the old man brought me out. 601 00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:18,900 Yeah. 602 00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:29,990 The hardest thing about working with him is... 603 00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:35,660 that he's got like an expectation for you 604 00:47:36,670 --> 00:47:38,829 that more than anyone else 605 00:47:38,830 --> 00:47:41,919 you want to actually live up to. 606 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,129 But at the same time it can also be very, 607 00:47:44,130 --> 00:47:45,879 very frustrating, 608 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,785 like especially when I was starting out. 609 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,679 Like there were times when I probably wanted 610 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,309 to throw my shovel at him, but... 611 00:47:53,310 --> 00:47:55,680 just kept going. 612 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,939 This is a pretty meditative job. 613 00:48:03,940 --> 00:48:07,279 You learn how to empty out your mind, 614 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,569 and then, if you achieve that, 615 00:48:09,570 --> 00:48:12,530 you can experience a great deal of peace and quiet. 616 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,200 There's just a joy to it. 617 00:48:39,810 --> 00:48:42,939 Pretty much every major life decision that we've made 618 00:48:42,940 --> 00:48:44,899 we've made like partner planting... 619 00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:46,739 - Yeah. - In the land. 620 00:48:46,740 --> 00:48:49,029 Like pretty much our whole relationship 621 00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:50,859 has been like around tree planting, 622 00:48:50,860 --> 00:48:52,619 so... - Yeah. 623 00:48:52,620 --> 00:48:54,619 Like the first day of the semester, 624 00:48:54,620 --> 00:48:55,989 like we're in the same class 625 00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:58,619 and I just like see her in the classroom. 626 00:48:58,620 --> 00:49:00,539 And I was just like, 627 00:49:00,540 --> 00:49:02,749 "Who is this person?" It's the most beautiful girl 628 00:49:02,750 --> 00:49:05,169 I've ever seen in my entire life. 629 00:49:05,170 --> 00:49:08,469 And then I couldn't stop staring every day. 630 00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:11,299 And I thought like I definitely knew I was being creepy, 631 00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:12,799 but I thought that maybe 632 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,219 I was being kind of like secret about it... 633 00:49:15,220 --> 00:49:17,769 - Definitely not. - But like 100 percent wasn't. 634 00:49:17,770 --> 00:49:19,599 - It was not discreet. - No. 635 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,019 I like sold all my stuff. I didn't wanna plant anymore. 636 00:49:22,020 --> 00:49:23,859 I like "retired." 637 00:49:23,860 --> 00:49:26,813 But um, she wanted to plant, so I bought all new stuff again... 638 00:49:27,820 --> 00:49:30,199 and made my way out back to the bush. 639 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,200 - Yeah. That was pretty nice. - Yeah. 640 00:49:34,870 --> 00:49:37,159 Well, when I first started getting to know Sally, 641 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,789 she wouldn't stop talking about tree planting all the time. 642 00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:41,329 As you do. As tree planters do. 643 00:49:41,330 --> 00:49:44,539 So much, and then she went tree planting 644 00:49:44,540 --> 00:49:46,499 and I went and I did my own thing for the summer. 645 00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:49,169 And then I just thought - 646 00:49:49,170 --> 00:49:51,379 like seeing all the pictures and hearing even more stories - 647 00:49:51,380 --> 00:49:53,049 I'm like I have to try this. 648 00:49:53,050 --> 00:49:57,509 It's funny how planting noise like helps us kinda help... 649 00:49:57,510 --> 00:50:00,679 well, it definitely helps us build our lives together. 650 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,149 It definitely built our relationship together. 651 00:50:03,150 --> 00:50:05,399 It exists because of tree planting. 652 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:09,479 It's such a nice time to just be working side by side. 653 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,319 Yeah. 654 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,199 It's worked out pretty well for us so far. 655 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,369 Yeah, it's worked out really well. 656 00:50:15,370 --> 00:50:17,529 One of the reasons we wanted to come tree planting 657 00:50:17,530 --> 00:50:19,699 was 'cause it's a job that we get to work together 658 00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:21,119 all day, all the time, 659 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,249 and we partner plant together. - Yeah. 660 00:50:23,250 --> 00:50:25,079 Somehow we're still not sick of each other... 661 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,089 but we do it every day. 662 00:50:27,090 --> 00:50:28,839 - Yeah. - It's really fun. 663 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,509 It makes it so fun. 664 00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:32,509 Yeah, even just having someone on the land with you 665 00:50:32,510 --> 00:50:34,839 is so much better. - Mm-hmm. 666 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,849 Just, I don't know, even if you're having a bad day, 667 00:50:36,850 --> 00:50:38,679 they can actually like talk to you. 668 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:39,880 Riley has like... 669 00:50:40,850 --> 00:50:42,849 reasons to be like sad 670 00:50:42,850 --> 00:50:46,019 or, I don't know, a grump, 671 00:50:46,020 --> 00:50:49,189 but he's like the most happy go-lucky person I've ever met, 672 00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:51,739 and I just love him. - Mm. 673 00:50:51,740 --> 00:50:53,649 And I'm gonna cry if I say anymore, 674 00:50:53,650 --> 00:50:55,859 so I'm not gonna say anymore. 675 00:50:55,860 --> 00:50:57,949 I have my own stress on me 676 00:50:57,950 --> 00:50:59,949 trying to do better in my second season, 677 00:50:59,950 --> 00:51:01,869 and I also like carry her stress with me too. 678 00:51:01,870 --> 00:51:04,159 And I can see her when she walks through the land 679 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,709 and I, I'm just like, "Uh-oh, like that's not... 680 00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:08,419 she's not having a good day." 681 00:51:08,420 --> 00:51:09,960 - I can just see it. - Yeah. 682 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:14,589 Like you've seen every... every emotion of mine 683 00:51:14,590 --> 00:51:16,469 and it probably first came out planting. 684 00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:18,469 - Yeah. - Like you've seen my very ups 685 00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:20,349 and very downs and very middles 686 00:51:20,350 --> 00:51:22,429 like... I guess. - Yeah. 687 00:51:22,430 --> 00:51:24,679 I don't know, we're really good for 688 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,689 if one person is feeling really upset, 689 00:51:27,690 --> 00:51:30,899 the other person will kind of be extra positive 690 00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:33,239 to try to calm them down. 691 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:35,069 But then sometimes it works against us. 692 00:51:35,070 --> 00:51:37,949 If one person's upset, the other person also gets upset 693 00:51:37,950 --> 00:51:39,909 and then we're both just like, "Agh! 694 00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:41,910 We're so upset right now." 695 00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:53,419 Sometimes you just... we'll just both be pissed 696 00:51:53,420 --> 00:51:56,049 and we'll just like go and plant our separate ways 697 00:51:56,050 --> 00:51:58,469 and that'll be that. - And then reunite. 698 00:51:58,470 --> 00:52:00,299 Like the same as being by yourself, 699 00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:01,929 like sometimes there's just nothing you can do 700 00:52:01,930 --> 00:52:03,679 and it's just a rough day. 701 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,599 And really picking yourself back up is just... 702 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,649 - We're like... - if it's really something... 703 00:52:08,650 --> 00:52:10,309 If it's really something, yeah, 704 00:52:10,310 --> 00:52:13,359 which usually happens because we're both just over-tired, 705 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,149 over-stressed, 706 00:52:15,150 --> 00:52:17,399 like working ourselves too hard, and then we're like, 707 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,819 "All right, we're talking about this right now 708 00:52:19,820 --> 00:52:22,199 in the middle of the land. Like drop your shovels 709 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,289 'cause we're talking about this right now. 710 00:52:25,290 --> 00:52:26,959 I still... I dunno, 711 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,290 I still really like it a lot. - Yeah. 712 00:52:31,460 --> 00:52:32,959 - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. 713 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,549 I, I feel like I know you a lot better. 714 00:52:35,550 --> 00:52:37,969 And, I dunno, I feel like it's made our relationship 715 00:52:37,970 --> 00:52:41,429 better too and stronger. - I think so, for sure. Yeah. 716 00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:43,179 - Yeah. - I think planting can make 717 00:52:43,180 --> 00:52:45,849 or break relationships, definitely. 718 00:52:45,850 --> 00:52:47,849 - Yeah? - Yeah. 719 00:52:47,850 --> 00:52:50,399 Well, I'm glad that it's making it 720 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,319 - for two seasons so far. - Yeah. Me too. 721 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,730 Yeah. 722 00:52:58,740 --> 00:53:00,409 Went on my first year of planting - 723 00:53:00,410 --> 00:53:01,989 I had a girlfriend at the time 724 00:53:01,990 --> 00:53:03,739 and I used to like press flowers. 725 00:53:03,740 --> 00:53:05,829 Like I'd flatten them and they'd dry out in my tally book 726 00:53:05,830 --> 00:53:07,999 and then eventually I'd like take them out, 727 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,079 and put them in an envelope and send them back home 728 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,290 - or send them back to her. - So cute. 729 00:53:17,340 --> 00:53:20,259 But uh... no, anyways, we broke up last year. 730 00:53:20,260 --> 00:53:22,889 So, I don't know why, 731 00:53:22,890 --> 00:53:24,759 but I started taking to squishing bugs instead... 732 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,510 In my tally book. 733 00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:33,019 This year I got a little, uh, 734 00:53:33,020 --> 00:53:34,899 like a little film canister, 735 00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:36,729 and then I started killing horseflies 736 00:53:36,730 --> 00:53:38,360 and putting them in there. 737 00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:42,262 And then maybe one day I'll give it to the girl I love. 738 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,870 ♪ It seems like yesterday ♪ 739 00:53:47,870 --> 00:53:50,370 ♪ We're jumping off bales of hay ♪ 740 00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:54,330 ♪ Down by the fireside ♪ 741 00:53:55,590 --> 00:53:58,379 ♪ Just watching the leaves blow by ♪ 742 00:53:58,380 --> 00:54:00,299 ♪ It sounds a lot better ♪ 743 00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:03,430 ♪ Than our love slippin' away ♪ 744 00:54:06,050 --> 00:54:08,519 So, last year at the end of the season, 745 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,390 uh, yeah, my heart was very broken, 746 00:54:12,810 --> 00:54:16,189 and I really didn't know how I was gonna like continue. 747 00:54:16,190 --> 00:54:18,400 Like I really thought about leaving. 748 00:54:20,650 --> 00:54:22,609 And then I just had like this realization: 749 00:54:22,610 --> 00:54:24,320 why the fuck should I leave? 750 00:54:26,370 --> 00:54:28,159 'Cause, at first, I was just too sad 751 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,249 and I couldn't really... 752 00:54:30,250 --> 00:54:32,659 just channel it into planting. 753 00:54:32,660 --> 00:54:35,329 And then I just like kind of raged out, 754 00:54:35,330 --> 00:54:37,589 but like in a more healthy way. 755 00:54:37,590 --> 00:54:39,709 Like it was just planting. - Okay. 756 00:54:39,710 --> 00:54:41,300 The rage plant. 757 00:54:43,090 --> 00:54:45,089 I was gonna be single for the first time 758 00:54:45,090 --> 00:54:48,099 and I was scared, really scared. 759 00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:50,599 But I think that that's... 760 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,389 I was too in my comfort zone in that relationship. 761 00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:56,229 And although he was an amazing boy 762 00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:58,149 and I'll always love him, 763 00:54:58,150 --> 00:55:01,319 I... It wasn't good anymore 764 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,239 and we both needed to move on and we did. 765 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:06,159 And I... like I feel 766 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,240 more myself than ever before. 767 00:55:10,450 --> 00:55:12,619 I just felt so motivated. 768 00:55:12,620 --> 00:55:15,120 The heartbreak just seemed nothing 769 00:55:16,460 --> 00:55:18,169 in comparison to like all the things 770 00:55:18,170 --> 00:55:20,379 I had in front of me. 771 00:55:20,380 --> 00:55:23,919 Sometimes emotions are good catalysts for things. 772 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,180 - This is very true. - Yeah. 773 00:55:57,290 --> 00:56:00,169 So, um, I guess there's kind of like two versions 774 00:56:00,170 --> 00:56:01,999 of the why I keep tree planting 775 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,629 or why I started tree planting story. 776 00:56:03,630 --> 00:56:05,469 The first one was that my boyfriend 777 00:56:05,470 --> 00:56:08,179 went tree planting one year and, uh, he had a lot of fun, 778 00:56:08,180 --> 00:56:11,469 so I decided to go the second year. 779 00:56:11,470 --> 00:56:13,309 And kind of the second reason is that - 780 00:56:13,310 --> 00:56:15,309 the second version of that story is that 781 00:56:15,310 --> 00:56:17,309 that year that he came back from tree planting, 782 00:56:17,310 --> 00:56:19,229 I got diagnosed with bipolar disorder 783 00:56:19,230 --> 00:56:21,399 and was like having a really rough time. 784 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,569 Like I had a huge breakdown 785 00:56:23,570 --> 00:56:25,739 and was having a really rough time 786 00:56:25,740 --> 00:56:27,989 and just like needed to do something 787 00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:29,449 radically different with my life. 788 00:56:29,450 --> 00:56:30,739 I needed to like do some, 789 00:56:30,740 --> 00:56:32,529 I needed to do something really hard 790 00:56:32,530 --> 00:56:35,289 that was gonna like make me feel a lot better. 791 00:56:35,290 --> 00:56:37,749 So I went tree planting 792 00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:39,369 and for the first month, 793 00:56:39,370 --> 00:56:41,539 I thought this is the biggest mistake 794 00:56:41,540 --> 00:56:43,249 I ever made in my entire life. 795 00:56:43,250 --> 00:56:45,839 And like I don't know why like I would... 796 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,549 why anyone would choose to do this to themselves, 797 00:56:47,550 --> 00:56:49,589 this is horrible. And then the second month, 798 00:56:49,590 --> 00:56:51,969 I like pretty much every one of my symptoms disappeared 799 00:56:51,970 --> 00:56:55,099 and like, just from like, you know, the constant exercise 800 00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:57,479 and like being out in the woods 801 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,809 and feeling like... breathing good air 802 00:56:59,810 --> 00:57:02,859 and like just the healing power of nature 803 00:57:02,860 --> 00:57:04,649 was very strong with me 804 00:57:04,650 --> 00:57:06,480 the second month of tree planting. 805 00:57:18,910 --> 00:57:21,879 I have such a very specific Indigenous experience. 806 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,039 I have status, but I'm mixed race 807 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,299 and I'm from, um, I'm from the city centre. 808 00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:28,839 I didn't grow up on the Rez. I'm from Toronto and... 809 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,259 thank you. Like wela'liek 810 00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:33,299 to like all of the Nations whose land I've been 811 00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:35,309 like reforesting this whole time too, 812 00:57:35,310 --> 00:57:38,389 because I'm not in Mi'kmaq territory at all. 813 00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:40,309 And I think it's probably pretty ironic 814 00:57:40,310 --> 00:57:42,149 that this Mi'kmaq kid 815 00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:44,479 who's been tapping into like being Mi'kmaq 816 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,689 all the way on the frickin' west coast, you know, 817 00:57:46,690 --> 00:57:48,900 getting covered in west coast dirt. 818 00:57:52,030 --> 00:57:53,869 Planting even at its worst, for me, 819 00:57:53,870 --> 00:57:55,989 like the trees that are going in the ground 820 00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:57,699 are contributing to a kind of ecology. 821 00:57:57,700 --> 00:57:59,409 It's not like the forest that was there before, 822 00:57:59,410 --> 00:58:01,409 but it's not nothing and uh, 823 00:58:01,410 --> 00:58:03,539 and it feels like a kind of healing. 824 00:58:03,540 --> 00:58:05,289 And you can't plant a tree 825 00:58:05,290 --> 00:58:07,129 without believing in the future. 826 00:58:07,130 --> 00:58:09,892 You can't plant a tree without believing that there's uh... 827 00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:13,179 there's gonna be... there's gonna be time 828 00:58:13,180 --> 00:58:15,720 for the tree to grow. 829 00:58:17,180 --> 00:58:18,639 I really don't think that anyone 830 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,389 who has any kind of like empathy for the earth 831 00:58:21,390 --> 00:58:23,439 as a living thing, um, 832 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,559 and empathy for other living things on the planet 833 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,609 can come to a cut block 834 00:58:27,610 --> 00:58:30,319 and not be overwhelmed by emotion 835 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,199 and like feel a kind of, like a real kind of grief 836 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:35,949 by just seeing the reality 837 00:58:35,950 --> 00:58:38,079 of what the devastation looks like. 838 00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,330 Just something terrible has happened to it. 839 00:58:49,420 --> 00:58:51,839 Uh, there's, there's nothing that I can do. 840 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,930 Like I can't go back in time and fix it. 841 00:58:56,430 --> 00:58:58,549 But I've got a shovel, you know? Like there's like... 842 00:58:58,550 --> 00:59:01,179 and sometimes that's the only thing you can do. 843 00:59:01,180 --> 00:59:03,100 So, um... 844 00:59:07,690 --> 00:59:09,900 Yeah. So I can just plant good trees. 845 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,319 I think we're used to seeing the forest 846 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,860 as something that is tranquil and inviting 847 01:01:23,070 --> 01:01:25,080 and beautiful, lush. 848 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,249 Here we are in a burnt forest. 849 01:01:34,250 --> 01:01:36,340 It's midnight 850 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,220 and it doesn't get dark out till really 10:30. 851 01:01:45,260 --> 01:01:47,349 Yeah, it's a little bit scary, but uh... 852 01:01:47,350 --> 01:01:49,639 you know, because there... there can be cougars, 853 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,309 there can be bears. 854 01:01:52,310 --> 01:01:53,769 I think we're, 855 01:01:53,770 --> 01:01:55,649 we're a bit afraid coming into the forest. 856 01:01:55,650 --> 01:01:57,359 It's scary. 857 01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,069 And uh... tree planters, 858 01:02:00,070 --> 01:02:02,659 a lot of their life happens in the day 859 01:02:02,660 --> 01:02:04,529 and that's the stuff that we see photographed. 860 01:02:04,530 --> 01:02:07,289 That's like the portraits I've been photographing. 861 01:02:07,290 --> 01:02:08,999 But at night you live in a tent 862 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,789 and you live in... 863 01:02:10,790 --> 01:02:13,289 very close to the forest, in the forest. 864 01:02:13,290 --> 01:02:16,089 And it is scary and there's this sort of fantasy idea 865 01:02:16,090 --> 01:02:19,209 that forests are these like friendly places 866 01:02:19,210 --> 01:02:20,880 that people go for forest bathing. 867 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,049 I think, well, yes, there's definitely 868 01:02:24,050 --> 01:02:27,639 something therapeutic about being in a forest, 869 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,389 but most people never see 870 01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:32,349 or experience anything like this, 871 01:02:32,350 --> 01:02:33,599 let alone photograph it. 872 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,899 So we are showing part of the devastation 873 01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:38,569 of the forest from the fires, 874 01:02:38,570 --> 01:02:40,739 and that's, that's a really big part of the story 875 01:02:40,740 --> 01:02:43,989 and it's not how people imagine seeing the forest. 876 01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:47,779 I am just so preoccupied with logistics. 877 01:02:47,780 --> 01:02:51,789 Like all I do is shoot and think about shooting 878 01:02:51,790 --> 01:02:55,710 and sleep and eat, and it's just making it happen. 879 01:02:58,090 --> 01:03:01,919 When you get it, it is like, it is like a fucking miracle. 880 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,590 It's unbelievable. 881 01:03:35,620 --> 01:03:37,459 I mean it's kind of depressing 882 01:03:37,460 --> 01:03:39,629 because it's, it's almost the only thing in life 883 01:03:39,630 --> 01:03:42,259 that really makes me happy - 884 01:03:42,260 --> 01:03:45,220 a successful photograph that was hard to get. 885 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,230 We got fire! 886 01:08:19,950 --> 01:08:21,989 The night now washes over the city, 887 01:08:21,990 --> 01:08:23,659 like the breath of your mother 888 01:08:23,660 --> 01:08:25,289 when she leaned down to kiss you goodnight, 889 01:08:25,290 --> 01:08:26,909 back when you thought that maybe 890 01:08:26,910 --> 01:08:27,920 there was something in this world 891 01:08:27,921 --> 01:08:30,289 that you could learn. 892 01:08:30,290 --> 01:08:33,959 And underground, things are coming alive 893 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,669 and one of those things can be you, 894 01:08:36,670 --> 01:08:38,929 and you're not alone. 895 01:08:38,930 --> 01:08:40,760 I promise. 896 01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:18,509 And you know, like, and they say in AA, right, 897 01:09:18,510 --> 01:09:20,509 to believe in a God, 898 01:09:20,510 --> 01:09:22,389 and for me, when I was in it, 899 01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:26,429 I always believed that G-O-D was like the great outdoors. 900 01:09:26,430 --> 01:09:28,099 And that was my... 901 01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:29,639 that was my higher being, 902 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,769 that was my thing to relate to was... 903 01:09:31,770 --> 01:09:34,610 You know, that was my God was the great outdoors. 904 01:09:39,740 --> 01:09:42,989 Well, I guess I started tree planting 905 01:09:42,990 --> 01:09:45,079 as a way of running away, I guess, 906 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,789 from bad friends and bad situations. 907 01:09:48,790 --> 01:09:50,539 Honestly, it's been uh... 908 01:09:50,540 --> 01:09:54,459 I'm pretty sure it saved my life for sure, in a sense, 909 01:09:54,460 --> 01:09:56,499 because I had a bad history with drugs 910 01:09:56,500 --> 01:09:59,009 for at least six years. 911 01:09:59,010 --> 01:10:01,219 And uh, yeah, like I, I dunno, 912 01:10:01,220 --> 01:10:03,889 We used to do intravenous, I guess, 913 01:10:03,890 --> 01:10:05,349 you would like to call it. 914 01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:07,350 A little stage fright right now. Sorry. 915 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,359 Tree planting - everything - has made me who I am today 916 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:17,729 and I'm... 917 01:10:17,730 --> 01:10:19,819 uh, you know, I'm happy to say that I'm... 918 01:10:19,820 --> 01:10:22,360 I like who I am today and I'm very proud of myself. 919 01:10:23,860 --> 01:10:26,700 Hear that, Mom? 920 01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:38,800 Do you think tree planting is an addiction? 921 01:10:41,300 --> 01:10:43,379 Tree planting is a huge addiction for sure. 922 01:10:43,380 --> 01:10:45,800 I totally just swapped heroin for this, for sure. 923 01:10:47,300 --> 01:10:49,889 Oh my God, there's nothing like this. 924 01:10:49,890 --> 01:10:51,599 I'm like, you'll never find a job like this. 925 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,060 Oh my God. 926 01:10:54,060 --> 01:10:56,690 It's a good question. 927 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:07,779 You get to really... bond with people 928 01:11:07,780 --> 01:11:10,699 that you never thought you would bond with. 929 01:11:10,700 --> 01:11:13,289 It helped me get through my, my own struggles 930 01:11:13,290 --> 01:11:15,789 and realize that, you know, 931 01:11:15,790 --> 01:11:18,459 there's more to life than drugs 932 01:11:18,460 --> 01:11:20,549 and other things like that, 933 01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:22,629 and that the love of people is out there. 934 01:11:22,630 --> 01:11:24,759 Everyone cares about each other, you know. 935 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,089 When you're out doing this kind of stuff, 936 01:11:26,090 --> 01:11:27,929 people really care about each other. 937 01:11:27,930 --> 01:11:30,349 And that's a... I think that really spoke a lot to me 938 01:11:30,350 --> 01:11:32,255 when I was getting through my addiction. 939 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,119 How does it feel so far? 940 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,909 Oh, you started? Both: 941 01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:55,459 No, it actually doesn't hurt at all. 942 01:11:55,460 --> 01:11:58,789 - Wow! Have you started? - Funny kid. 943 01:11:58,790 --> 01:12:01,590 It feels good. 944 01:12:04,630 --> 01:12:07,340 - Super. - Yeah. 945 01:12:17,770 --> 01:12:20,519 And I took that photo that's inspired the tattoo 946 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,319 last season. 947 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,149 It was a really beautiful treeline 948 01:12:24,150 --> 01:12:26,069 in this, in this camp we were at. 949 01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:28,199 And I had the photo all year. 950 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:29,949 I kept looking at it and I... 951 01:12:29,950 --> 01:12:33,040 I kinda, I knew right away where I'd want it. 952 01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:43,419 ♪ Mixer on a Friday night ♪ 953 01:12:43,420 --> 01:12:46,300 ♪ Some pretty girls and guys are here ♪ 954 01:12:49,010 --> 01:12:51,599 ♪ The things I have I don't need ♪ 955 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,179 ♪ And the things I want... ♪ 956 01:12:53,180 --> 01:12:55,059 It's a tree planting tattoo. 957 01:12:55,060 --> 01:12:57,479 Oh, is it a, is it a picture of... 958 01:12:57,480 --> 01:12:59,810 Ernest. Yeah, you can see his little bent ears. 959 01:13:01,270 --> 01:13:04,360 ♪ What is it that makes me feel this way ♪ 960 01:13:05,690 --> 01:13:08,200 ♪ It's not so easy to make ♪ 961 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,530 ♪ All of my problems go away ♪ 962 01:13:14,620 --> 01:13:17,000 ♪ Then again, what else is there ♪ 963 01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:21,790 ♪ Another life, some other way ♪ 964 01:13:23,340 --> 01:13:25,750 ♪ I really don't know what you need ♪ 965 01:13:27,710 --> 01:13:30,549 ♪ I'm really trying to find ♪ 966 01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:33,390 ♪ That way ♪ 967 01:13:46,650 --> 01:13:48,569 Wow... 968 01:13:48,570 --> 01:13:50,240 Wow! 969 01:13:52,030 --> 01:13:54,700 Holy crap! Like look at it that way. 970 01:13:58,790 --> 01:14:01,419 Ten is a big one. 971 01:14:01,420 --> 01:14:03,419 Happy Sober Day. 972 01:14:03,420 --> 01:14:05,919 Okay. Oh my God, look at that cake! 973 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,090 Oh... oh... 974 01:14:07,091 --> 01:14:09,669 Aw, there you go, Honey. 975 01:14:09,670 --> 01:14:11,589 Oh my God, it's so beautiful. 976 01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:13,589 You get to make a wish. 977 01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:15,600 Mm... 978 01:14:18,430 --> 01:14:20,889 okay. 979 01:14:20,890 --> 01:14:23,559 I mean, of course, I have almost 11 years, right, 980 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,020 but we're doing this for the film, so. 981 01:14:27,020 --> 01:14:30,149 For the first ten years that I tried to get sober, 982 01:14:30,150 --> 01:14:32,149 I never... 983 01:14:32,150 --> 01:14:34,659 never believed that I would get one month. 984 01:14:34,660 --> 01:14:36,329 I never believed it. Like for ten years, 985 01:14:36,330 --> 01:14:38,619 I would go into meetings and people would like, 986 01:14:38,620 --> 01:14:40,539 they'd say, "Oh, everyone with a year sober 987 01:14:40,540 --> 01:14:42,119 put up their hands. 988 01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,579 And I just thought like that is the craziest shit. 989 01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:46,959 Like I will never be that person. 990 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:48,589 I will never be that person. 991 01:14:48,590 --> 01:14:50,299 So I'll tell you what I wished for. 992 01:14:50,300 --> 01:14:52,799 What? 993 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,639 One more... 994 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,929 one more day of sobriety, 995 01:14:56,930 --> 01:15:00,389 uh, one more tree, 996 01:15:00,390 --> 01:15:02,179 and one more picture. 997 01:15:02,180 --> 01:15:03,850 Awwww... 998 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,709 Oh... 999 01:15:24,710 --> 01:15:28,339 Um, I don't know how people are supposed to handle grief, 1000 01:15:28,340 --> 01:15:30,089 but uh... 1001 01:15:30,090 --> 01:15:32,879 it's taking, it's gonna take some time to adjust for sure. 1002 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,759 You know, crying every day so far 1003 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,679 since I've lost him, but uh... 1004 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,889 yeah, it's been uh... 1005 01:15:40,890 --> 01:15:42,929 I don't know what else to say. He's uh... 1006 01:15:42,930 --> 01:15:44,849 I miss that guy. He was my... 1007 01:15:44,850 --> 01:15:46,599 he was my better half for sure. 1008 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,480 He was the better half of me. 1009 01:16:03,910 --> 01:16:06,210 Uh, I took... I took his collar 1010 01:16:07,370 --> 01:16:10,879 'cause, uh, I knew he was excited about this year. 1011 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,549 So I took his collar after he died and uh... 1012 01:16:13,550 --> 01:16:15,879 I just told him that he'd be with me 1013 01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,389 the rest of the year. 1014 01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:20,390 I don't know. I just... 1015 01:16:21,470 --> 01:16:22,809 it's just a nice reminder 1016 01:16:22,810 --> 01:16:26,389 that he'll always be there with me 1017 01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:29,400 and, uh, that I don't forget about him 1018 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,530 'cause he definitely made this job a lot easier. 1019 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:41,830 It's a very hard day that day. 1020 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,449 Agh! 1021 01:16:44,450 --> 01:16:47,409 After getting up from being sick at 3:30, 1022 01:16:47,410 --> 01:16:49,419 um... 1023 01:16:49,420 --> 01:16:52,289 played for a while. 1024 01:16:52,290 --> 01:16:54,386 We played for a great time actually together. 1025 01:16:55,710 --> 01:16:59,429 And, uh, that day was by far the first day 1026 01:16:59,430 --> 01:17:01,679 of this whole year that I spent the most time 1027 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,679 and paid the most attention to him. 1028 01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,019 I split my whole food bowl with him at the cache. 1029 01:17:07,020 --> 01:17:10,979 I split all my food and we just played and slept, 1030 01:17:10,980 --> 01:17:13,899 and uh, it was by far the best day we had that year, 1031 01:17:13,900 --> 01:17:18,149 and I, and to go out on a note like that was a good one, 1032 01:17:18,150 --> 01:17:20,070 um, but a very sad one. 1033 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,670 I definitely feel his presence now missing. 1034 01:17:33,670 --> 01:17:37,299 And uh, a lot of time I just get to the back of my piece 1035 01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:39,300 and I just start crying. 1036 01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:42,219 I just, I just feel. 1037 01:17:42,220 --> 01:17:43,759 I just let myself feel 1038 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,469 and remember the good times with Ernest. 1039 01:17:45,470 --> 01:17:48,479 And I mean it makes me cry now, but... 1040 01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:50,479 um... one of these days, 1041 01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:52,576 it'll turn into a lot more smiles than cries. 1042 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,729 Well, I'm Meaghan. 1043 01:18:35,730 --> 01:18:38,609 This is my younger brother Thomas. 1044 01:18:38,610 --> 01:18:41,860 And I started planting a year before he did. 1045 01:18:42,860 --> 01:18:45,409 Uh, I suppose I was the bad influence 1046 01:18:45,410 --> 01:18:47,530 and brought him out here. 1047 01:18:48,700 --> 01:18:51,709 Our parents were maybe slightly overwhelmed 1048 01:18:51,710 --> 01:18:53,539 when they first heard 1049 01:18:53,540 --> 01:18:55,709 that Tom was gonna come out with me planting. 1050 01:18:55,710 --> 01:18:57,589 - I thought they were relieved. - What have you done?! 1051 01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:59,209 "Thank God Tom is going out there. 1052 01:18:59,210 --> 01:19:00,709 Now Meg won't be out there 1053 01:19:00,710 --> 01:19:02,379 making all these crazy decisions." 1054 01:19:02,380 --> 01:19:05,550 - That's true. - No. 1055 01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:08,889 We have a really good time on the land. 1056 01:19:08,890 --> 01:19:11,033 There's no one else I would rather plant with. 1057 01:19:13,140 --> 01:19:16,560 We will not go a day without arguing on the land. 1058 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,399 A bag up even. 1059 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,779 We won't go a bag up without yelling at each other, 1060 01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:24,700 working it out and then coming back from it. 1061 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,199 We've had big conversations on the block. 1062 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,249 We know each other so well now and, and are... 1063 01:19:32,250 --> 01:19:34,459 also, you know, we see each other all the time. 1064 01:19:34,460 --> 01:19:37,249 And I think that being out here and experiencing this together 1065 01:19:37,250 --> 01:19:41,169 has allowed us to build a relationship of our own 1066 01:19:41,170 --> 01:19:43,339 that is such a friendship 1067 01:19:43,340 --> 01:19:45,800 and, uh, that's awesome. 1068 01:19:47,180 --> 01:19:49,349 Those kind of relationships that you can build 1069 01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:52,469 between people in a work environment are very special, 1070 01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:54,729 but also very difficult to... 1071 01:19:54,730 --> 01:19:56,940 to manage at times. 1072 01:20:01,150 --> 01:20:04,489 Even just being out here and being part of an activity 1073 01:20:04,490 --> 01:20:07,740 that allows you to constantly be impressed by people, 1074 01:20:08,780 --> 01:20:12,039 be motivated, you know, encourage, 1075 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,450 share and hold each other up. 1076 01:20:16,370 --> 01:20:19,379 It's really easy in this job to find yourself jarred 1077 01:20:19,380 --> 01:20:20,959 in your own footsteps, 1078 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,629 stopped, looking around going, 1079 01:20:22,630 --> 01:20:24,969 what am I doing and where am I, 1080 01:20:24,970 --> 01:20:27,469 and who am I and who are these people? 1081 01:20:27,470 --> 01:20:29,679 And to kind of detach yourself. 1082 01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,809 But it's so cool how... 1083 01:20:31,810 --> 01:20:34,389 how impressed you can be with others and with yourself 1084 01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:36,890 when they just keep moving. 1085 01:20:39,770 --> 01:20:42,189 You just have to take it one tree at a time. 1086 01:20:42,190 --> 01:20:44,940 You do. Truly. 1087 01:20:48,910 --> 01:20:50,659 Yesterday was our last day. 1088 01:20:50,660 --> 01:20:53,199 We just had a part... part of a day to plant, 1089 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,869 and Tom and I, 1090 01:20:55,870 --> 01:20:57,619 our boss knew that we were, 1091 01:20:57,620 --> 01:20:59,419 we were gonna wanna plant together 1092 01:20:59,420 --> 01:21:00,919 and go through it together, so we were given 1093 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,209 a tiny little piece and just a few trees. 1094 01:21:04,210 --> 01:21:07,009 And we went in and we just went slow 1095 01:21:07,010 --> 01:21:09,929 and chatted the whole time, and we argued. 1096 01:21:09,930 --> 01:21:11,680 Oh yeah. 1097 01:21:16,020 --> 01:21:17,809 And we walked to the back 1098 01:21:17,810 --> 01:21:21,769 and planted our last trees of the season, 1099 01:21:21,770 --> 01:21:23,899 next to each other, together, 1100 01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:26,069 and uh... 1101 01:21:26,070 --> 01:21:28,779 that was really special for me and... 1102 01:21:28,780 --> 01:21:30,659 um... 1103 01:21:30,660 --> 01:21:33,329 I think I even said to you at one point like, 1104 01:21:33,330 --> 01:21:35,289 thanks for... 1105 01:21:35,290 --> 01:21:38,039 thanks for building forests with me or something. 1106 01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:39,790 That is what you said. 1107 01:21:43,460 --> 01:21:45,050 Yeah, and I mean it. 1108 01:22:17,410 --> 01:22:19,119 You're alone a lot 1109 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:20,749 when you're tree planting in the field, 1110 01:22:20,750 --> 01:22:23,169 yet you're surrounded by community at the same time. 1111 01:22:23,170 --> 01:22:24,629 So it's this, 1112 01:22:24,630 --> 01:22:27,209 this sort of balance of solitariness, 1113 01:22:27,210 --> 01:22:30,420 but knowing that you're not alone in your solitariness. 1114 01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:33,509 Isn't that the human condition? 1115 01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:35,599 You know, alone but seeking community 1116 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,760 or alone but needing community. 1117 01:22:41,480 --> 01:22:43,940 We were cooking for a minute there. 1118 01:22:51,650 --> 01:22:53,449 You know, I didn't want to go to my grave 1119 01:22:53,450 --> 01:22:56,369 without having done this documentation of tree planting 1120 01:22:56,370 --> 01:22:58,950 that I've been thinking about for more than 20 years. 1121 01:22:59,950 --> 01:23:02,079 And a couple of years from now, I'll, I'll... 1122 01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,829 you know, I'll walk away from the cut block 1123 01:23:04,830 --> 01:23:06,839 for the last time I'm sure. 1124 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,130 How's the, how's the height, Liam? 1125 01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:12,919 My knees hurt, my back hurts, my neck hurts. 1126 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,799 Every day I think it's amazing 1127 01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,889 that I haven't fallen and broken my camera, 1128 01:23:17,890 --> 01:23:20,140 and I won't be able to do it forever. 1129 01:23:21,810 --> 01:23:25,649 I feel like I'm giving back to an experience I had 1130 01:23:25,650 --> 01:23:28,820 that gave me a lot and now I'm giving back to it. 1131 01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,490 ♪ You will gonna let it all go ♪ 1132 01:23:34,530 --> 01:23:36,570 ♪ I'm gonna let it all go ♪ 1133 01:23:38,580 --> 01:23:40,830 ♪ Gonna let it all go ♪ 1134 01:23:42,580 --> 01:23:44,709 ♪ This thing is happenin' ♪ 1135 01:23:44,710 --> 01:23:46,829 ♪ All right ♪ 1136 01:23:46,830 --> 01:23:48,839 ♪ This thing is happenin' ♪ 1137 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,589 ♪ All night ♪ 1138 01:23:50,590 --> 01:23:52,880 ♪ Oh no, it's getting late ♪ 1139 01:23:59,010 --> 01:24:02,269 ♪ Oh, will my boss ♪ 1140 01:24:02,270 --> 01:24:05,270 ♪ Oh, you like my smile ♪ 1141 01:24:07,230 --> 01:24:10,569 ♪ I said my boss ♪ 1142 01:24:10,570 --> 01:24:13,230 ♪ Oh, you like my smile ♪ 1143 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:18,070 ♪ That ain't love talking ♪ 1144 01:24:19,070 --> 01:24:21,160 ♪ Oh-oh the names are talking ♪ 1145 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,210 ♪ Oh, they're talking, talking ♪ 82905

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