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Amebix - Risen (resucitado)
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::: Subtítulos traducidos por tromahawk2023 :::
el x-x-2025
(robertotapiola@gmail.com)
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Escuché Amebix por primera vez
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por un amigo mío, mine
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y lo que significó para mí
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es que provenían de una mentalidad diferente
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respecto a otras bandas punk del momento.
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Tenían una atmósfera apocalíptica,
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un rollo misterioso,
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algo así como un aura espiritual.
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Resucitado
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Sin dios ni amo.
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[Canción: Axeman]
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-Primeros días-
Stig volvió y se fue de la universidad.
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Se fue a trabajar a New Jersey
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por un tiempo,
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en un hotel, y luego volvió
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y tenía una guitarra
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con un amplificador
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y dijo de formar una banda.
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yeah and this kind of coincided with
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something else in my life which was
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at that yeah as i say at that point i
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was doing quite well but i was in the
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atc which is like the air training corps
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i was a sergeant in the atc i was doing
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very very well i was i was a
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a deadshot marksman i had various raf
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awards for it at that age sort of thing
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was growing up
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shooting all the time anyway i knew my
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way around guns and stuff
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and um i was set all together for a
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career in the raf i was
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that's what i was going to be doing you
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know um and then
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what happened was i went on a um on the
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night megan marches which is basically
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the six and a half thousand allied
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troops this is basically you get
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your um americans and canadians these
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some of these guys were from korea and
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vietnam veterans
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and plus these young cadets and all in a
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great big forest area outside nijmegen
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in in holland
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um the um the the thing of the event
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basically you'd have to walk
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20 miles a day would march 20 miles a
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day with your hobnail boots on your full
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uniform march march march
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march 20 miles a day for five days so
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you've done 100 miles and
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at the end of it basically you get a
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little little medal thanks very much for
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commemorating the arnhem landings you
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know whether all the paratroops came in
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all this kind of stuff
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so great we've been training for it for
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ages went across there
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did this um and
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during the evenings i was hanging out
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with a with a group of gis
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up in their tent and they were a good
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laugh and there's this one guy called
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stanzarelli and um uh
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we got on really well he said miller he
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said i'm uh
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i'm giving you an order son i said well
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what's that he says listen he says i'm a
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sergeant and you're a sergeant but i'm a
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bigger god damn sorry in the new year
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says we're going out on the town tonight
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so
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this is at the end of the week yeah
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we're all tired and but yeah kind of
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happy
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so i went out on the piss with this
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group of yanks and i'm just a young lad
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you know
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i was supposed to have been in by nine
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o'clock i eventually got back in at two
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o'clock in the morning pierced out my
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[ __ ] face
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with a huge fat american cigar stuffed
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in my chops so
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uh i'm wandering down through the camp
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out of my head and
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popped my head into the tent where we
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were staying and the boys and there the
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rest of the cadets were going miller
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you're in [ __ ] trouble now boy yeah i
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had
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i got pulled up before the officers in
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the morning what the [ __ ] how do you
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think you were doing we had the mps out
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after and all this kind of stuff it's
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like well
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[ __ ] so went back home and i didn't
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really have much of a choice after that
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i went back to the atc hut the next week
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and the nco guys was saying well what
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are you going to do now i said well [ __ ]
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i'm going to form a punk rock band
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and that was it punctuated
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on the bandwidth name me and me and stig
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and billy jurgy was a mate of mine from
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school as well and we started basically
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we got a tea tree and he was drumming on
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the tea tree so that worked pretty well
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for a little while along with the guitar
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going to
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and then we got uh clive barnes who had
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this ropey old bass so he brought the
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bass along
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[Music]
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to spend your time in a band trying to
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play an instrument which you couldn't
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tune
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and having a laugh then the dull
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[Music]
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dullness of living in the west country
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really on the sticks the older i've been
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over the jersey doing hotel work and
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stuff when he came back
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and i didn't have that much work so i
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got this shitty job to a new opportunity
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i was walking to work every day
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you know and trying to hitch a lift but
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like you know people were
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wary of people looking a bit different
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in those days like they are now but even
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more so
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and then it was more okay if like walk
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along and think about things i was just
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thinking about
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a good a good name kind of like a
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corporate sort of logo idea for
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something that's real
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simple and basic just some basic idea
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and sort of came up with the mavics and
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came back to rob and told him about it
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that evening
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it all kind of focused from that
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the idea came together from that a bit
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more you know because we couldn't
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when we first started when we did the
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bandwidth name well i used to wonder why
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each gig used to sound different because
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i didn't know that you had a tuner
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guitar i thought you just bought it from
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the shop
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and i thought the machine heads were
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just putting the strings on you know to
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hold them on
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i didn't know you should actually turn
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things around to make it change notes so
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we
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did about 20 gigs of not knowing how to
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tune guitars and thinking like
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you know why why is this kick sound
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better than the last one or this gig
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sounds more [ __ ] than the other one you
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know
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so we yeah everyone really hated us punk
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in the 70s was uh um
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uk subs the rats bands like that um i
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think um
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you know just getting into i was living
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in quite a small town in the west
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country
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um we were picking up stuff through john
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peel discharge you know
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crass all those bands but i think the
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first band i was really into was the
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the uk sub stranglehold that era
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i saw the clash when i was 13 on the 16
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tons tour
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so it's just the energy of the moment
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really i don't think we were
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particularly politicized or we had any
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agenda it was just that
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general feeling of being youngster being
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pissed off pissed off with school not
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liking authority
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and just finding that whole sort of punk
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thing is a big outlet really
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without really any kind of uh coherent
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philosophy around it at all apart from
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you know [ __ ] it let's let's go out and
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have a good time
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all of this time yeah as i said before
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and never really learned to tune our
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instruments
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and so we'd consequently play these gigs
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no
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two songs would ever sound as they
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sounded originally you know because
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things were constantly going out of tune
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and nobody bothered to ever tune
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anything up so it's like well
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just [ __ ] play on this string here
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and keep going and it
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sounds vaguely like it did the last time
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so we had a bit of fun really we just we
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formed this band
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took the whole punk rock thing really
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seriously got yeah copies of sniffing
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glue magazine and stuff and
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said these three chords going to form a
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band that's exactly what we did
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and really got our people's noses
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locally because it was the time where
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you had
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saturday night fever all those bg's
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disco stuff going on and
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you know people would be turning up at
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the local discos and the nice white
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jeans and the
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yeah the the the pearly bloody tops and
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all the rest of it and we would just be
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these skanky
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[ __ ] kids in drain pipe trousers um
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but it was enjoyable you know we had we
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had a good time going and playing local
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village halls getting canned off stage
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and spat up
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um getting slagged off in the local
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press just doing the sort of small town
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punk rock thing
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and me and stig being pretty much the
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the only people that are immediately
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identifiable as punks in that we had
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slightly spiky hair and and uh
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bit tattered jeans and stuff like that
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you know chris
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and rob were
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amoebics there was no one else amoebics
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is
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rob miller and chris miller and no one
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else
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i was just the catalyst that brought
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them
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into being the spark of life here if you
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like
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the glee was the womb of amoebics
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there was one incident that happened
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down there which i think
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had a um a long lasting effect on on
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stig anyway
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it made the national news at the time
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and he was attacked by a puma
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and basically shredded cut cut to
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ribbons as a six-year-old child
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um 120 stitches
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severe bleeding everywhere i mean these
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these days he still
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stitches all over him you know uh it was
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a really weird really weird thing to
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happen in
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in the remote area of devon like that a
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friend of our fathers was a
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a millionaire but basically he was manic
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depressive as well um
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and he had one toy after another and he
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joked about he'd buy it
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by a helicopter at one point and go and
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play around with that until he got
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[ __ ] bored and the
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the one of his latest things to come
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around was to show us i've got i
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got a puma but they didn't tell us kids
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about it
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um put the puma up behind the the um
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the cottages at the bottom of the land
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um and they they tied it
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with a chain to the um to the telegraph
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pole down there and
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we didn't know anything about it and we
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were just playing and we went to play
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hide and seek stig went to hide behind
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there
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and um he basically the
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the the puma jumped on him and shredded
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him
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but it was just apparently he was very
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very lucky because the puma he was just
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playing
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uh otherwise he would have been dead it
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was just
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clawing at him and he he came out came
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out stumbling out of there
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just just a red mess of blood
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you know side to side little white socks
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full of blood
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pretty grim really i was a little dark
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black sheep sort of thing you know and
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so i didn't spend a lot of time with him
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with rob when we were young when we
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when we were little kids together but
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like from the age i was about
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12 13 i really kind of went you know
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off the rails and got sent to different
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schools and got expelled and chopped out
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of here and dropped out of there and
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ended up going off to this maladjusted
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kids school and coming back from there
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and so we kind of
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didn't see each other for quite a few
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years really i didn't live in the family
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home i lived away
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in the school which is full-time
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boarding you know
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and that was like the influences and
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ideas i think
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in some ways come from the kind of
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family we've grown up in you know
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none of our parents ever went to church
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or nothing you know it's all like kind
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of
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second third generation pagans if you
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know what i mean the the norse
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kind of side of things you know and all
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different
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philosophical ideas you know things i've
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always been interested in you know
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just trying to alleviate the boredom of
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living in a chicken [ __ ] town just to
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make a good
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noise and maybe put a decent idea out
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there you know
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basically though just to make
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a difference somehow or maybe inspire
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people to do something different you
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know
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when i remember devon i am haunted to
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the depths of my soul
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by a beauty and warmth that has filled
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me completely by the poem that was never
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read
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but there was written within me by a
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graceful and perfect hand
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the smell of plowed earth and the
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croaking of rooks in the witch's wood
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shadows of the stream beds with a
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speckled trout wave like weeds
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and the soft flowing current still dry
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stones of the tours on lonely dartmoor
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a way to tavistock a way to plymouth
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plunging
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down once more into the wiry hedges and
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maize like lanes of peter tavi
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i drank and i drank deep and i am
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utterly haunted still by the fields of
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my youth
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winter 1980. the glebe is a large manor
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house on the edge of the mall
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it stands high on a hill overlooking the
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sleepy village of peter tavi
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saxon burial mounds lie beneath the
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foundations
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a thin membrane separates us from the
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ancient voices that stir beneath
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our feet when the doors of midwinter
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open into the other world
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this is the place of many ghosts
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[Applause]
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i think it really started when
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when i moved into the sky martin's house
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who used to be our drummer
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as i have to be kind of i don't know
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things people kind of go different
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directions i think billy and clive went
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off to do their sort of thing
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i think they were learning to play
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properly or something
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and then i think me and rob just wanted
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to
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have a good time basically we wanted to
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do this band so we ended up um
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moving into this uh old vicarage on the
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edge of dartmoor
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and that was where the real atmosphere
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started to come in
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we used to sleep all day and wake up at
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night and play
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and down there you wake up like five
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o'clock at night and you've been off
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your tits all day long
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and the mist is going oh rolling it off
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the moors just like those old
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baskerville sherlock holmes movies
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weren't you know it's like this high
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little bits of twig and trees digging up
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out of it i think [ __ ] you now this is
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surreal man but living on that like six
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seven months
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that's where it really started to kick
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in a bit more and we started to sound
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like a surroundings you know
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dark and mysterious
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it is only
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the belief that the man
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was probably the greatest single living
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human being of the 20th century
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who came he was he
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he seemed to be always at the glebe
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even before i discovered him
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because sometimes destiny and fate
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throws
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humans together in strange ways and if
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you have the
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courage to admit that someone who has
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been
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[Music]
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misinterpreted all those years
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for all those years should find a safe
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haven
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at the glebe house is is pure enough
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because it's only destiny and fate that
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brings people together because
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death came to crowley on december the
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first 1947 and of course
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i wasn't born until 1959 he said 12
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years after
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so you know it's a strange thing quirk
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of fate really
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once i had made contact with the crowley
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spirit in my mind every mom
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i knew he was there forever more see and
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that's it
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there's no other and of course crowley
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will live forever in the uh
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pantheon of all the great prophets that
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ever lived on earth because um
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he he told it how it was he showed the
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world
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what it was and of course there was only
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one thing he actually produced that was
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like a blip in the whole of the universe
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was
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libra alveolus the book of the law and
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that was the most crucial book that was
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ever written
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in history rob and chris came into the
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gleep and they didn't know what they
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were coming into
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but i opened my arms to them i opened up
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the whole house to them we had the whole
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house to ourselves
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and we were able to do whatever we
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wanted to while they were there we could
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we never locked the house up we were
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never burgled there's no
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fires we just lived our lives and we
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could live as happy as well
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there was no it was a time warp in the
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way there was no
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the world outside didn't matter we were
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walking in a bit of a dream
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for the day state really because we knew
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that we
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had total freedom and of ourselves and
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all the people around us in the local
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area
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would all come and visit the cleb but at
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the end of the day it was only
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me rob and chris there and people came
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and went
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girls came and went
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people came and went and yet this part
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of the meebix myth that the glebe was
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maybe not hidden but should be shown now
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that glebe was the birthplace of
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amoebics and there is no doubt about it
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but of course from
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when they left the glebe they then went
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to bath
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bristol and did what they did and had
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such a short
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lifespan but that short lifespan those
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two albums arise a monolith
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has created a sort of myth and legend
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and count status all over the world that
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will always persist
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because the glebe had infused
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chris and rob with the spirit of crying
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and his legacy
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it is approaching up the long gravel
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driveway
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headlights sweep over the front of the
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house as the cast turns around
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martin parks the curtains in the kitchen
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then turns towards stig an eye to softly
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announce
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it's k k has been
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shopping up in london she walks into the
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kitchen
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in full kit paisley print head scarf
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barber wax jacket and court shoes
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every bit the country girl she's
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carrying two plastic bags in each hand
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the contents softly clink together as
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she lifts them onto the table
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i am so glad to be back she says
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stick deeps into one of the bags and
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retrieves a bottle of vodka he nods
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sagely
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nice one kay looks in his direction
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briefly
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talking as she unpacks i hit three cards
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for the maximum 50 quid each piece of
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piss
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i just hang around the ladies changing
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room in harrods lifted the cards out of
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the bags and never raised an eyebrow
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it's all down to look in the part she's
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good very good
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and she begins so i took a little wonder
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down harley street to see the man
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she takes out a cardboard box the size
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of a box of chocolates and opens the top
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i cram my neck over the other two lads
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to see a row of small glass ampoules
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for september she announces so who wants
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a hit
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this is an important question so
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important that time seems to slow down
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for an instant
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i realize that something fundamental
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hinges on this moment
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kay's man is her doctor in harley street
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she's a bad girl from a good family
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when she fell into the junk scene her
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parents could make sure that she got the
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best help the money could buy
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for september synthetic heroin clean and
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legal if you had a harley street doctor
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no you're all right thanks i decline our
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offer martin stig want a shot
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no cooking up no filtering straight into
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the works from there into the raised
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blue vein of the forearm and tap in
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drip drip drip martin buckles over
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as pale as a ghost stick is thrown up
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outside
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he comes back in and sinks slowly into
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the armchair softly exhaling
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a smile briefly touches the side of his
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mouth before the eyeballs roll back
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and up into his skull his lips begin to
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turn a powdery shade of blue
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there you go darling says kay she pats
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him affectionately on the head and turns
556
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her attention back to the box
557
00:21:01,360 --> 00:21:04,559
i look on the raybun stove crackles and
558
00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:06,559
flares into life as the wind and rain
559
00:21:06,559 --> 00:21:08,720
lash against the leaded window panes in
560
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,240
the ancient earth beneath us the
561
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,919
forgotten spirits move slightly in their
562
00:21:11,919 --> 00:21:12,799
long sleep
563
00:21:12,799 --> 00:21:15,440
a die has been cast this winter night i
564
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,600
gave them the nourishment they needed
565
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,799
i filled them full of my
566
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,840
what is it my being then i gave them
567
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,799
all i needed but i couldn't do anything
568
00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:30,080
more for them when they left
569
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,760
because i had to um
570
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,760
recover myself in london and
571
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,320
but i was back very soon and of course
572
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,520
then my life
573
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,440
changed in other ways i was still doing
574
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,200
my photography
575
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,360
and i had friends and i was still doing
576
00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:50,720
my artwork you know
577
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,880
you know we did you know tarot cards you
578
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,320
know
579
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,640
deck of thoth you know book of thoth
580
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,000
gems from the equinox
581
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,039
library just all his books
582
00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:03,200
whenever when one had the money one
583
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,600
later on of course you know one would
584
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,200
buy the books read the books one must
585
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,960
study astrology one would
586
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,039
delve into all those writings of account
587
00:22:13,039 --> 00:22:16,960
forces and you know when you have
588
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,720
time on your hands and you don't have to
589
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,799
do anything special
590
00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:22,960
you have the time to delve into things
591
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,559
that people never even
592
00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:26,960
can do they're too busy working their
593
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,200
nine to five bollocks off
594
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,840
they're too drunk or too pissed and have
595
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,600
no imagination
596
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,520
but when you are calm and collective and
597
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,120
you know exactly what the hell is going
598
00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:38,960
on then you can practice whatever magic
599
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,000
you want
600
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,679
and these days doesn't matter what you
601
00:22:41,679 --> 00:22:43,520
practice because as long as you
602
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,200
do it with imagination and will
603
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,720
and love love is the most important
604
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,039
thing of all if you have love
605
00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:54,240
you can achieve anything you like but
606
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,679
martin i hope he's okay
607
00:22:55,679 --> 00:22:56,960
he's a good drummer as well he used to
608
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,880
really build the sound up
609
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,240
it's a bit he wasn't really um
610
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,320
psychologically capable of coming with
611
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,159
us really i don't think it was really
612
00:23:06,159 --> 00:23:07,600
what he wanted to do you know it's good
613
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,640
living in this house it definitely
614
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,080
formulated some of the sound
615
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,640
that rob was saying it's like um living
616
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,159
in that atmosphere of sleeping all day
617
00:23:14,159 --> 00:23:14,960
and
618
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,679
being awake at night certainly um even
619
00:23:17,679 --> 00:23:18,960
if you didn't want it to affect you it
620
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,360
still would affect you you
621
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:22,799
i know to like that edgy dartmouth thing
622
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:24,000
live on the edge don't we just walk up
623
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,120
the road you're on the moors and there's
624
00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:27,600
just no houses or nothing anywhere
625
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,240
it gives you that feeling like people
626
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,600
probably used to feel before they were
627
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,600
surrounded and crowded into little small
628
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,039
spaces
629
00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:36,480
it's nice to feel that sometimes you
630
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,559
know just to get away and
631
00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:40,480
feel there's nothing to constrict you
632
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,919
well rob
633
00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:46,480
was like a witness a witness to the um
634
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,600
he was always a witness rob he was a
635
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,000
witness
636
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,679
to some of the um drug excesses and
637
00:23:53,679 --> 00:23:56,960
excesses in bristol and some of the
638
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,480
horrors of the backstabbing years you
639
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,799
know i mean music generally you know
640
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:04,240
he was still the person that kept it all
641
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:05,520
going because chris couldn't have done
642
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,679
it on his own
643
00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:09,600
and rob couldn't have done without crisp
644
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,720
because they were like black brothers
645
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,520
you know
646
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,640
twins almost but i mean you know rob was
647
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,000
the one that kept it all going because
648
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,440
he didn't do the excesses that
649
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,039
christie's scene he was always
650
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:22,480
straight rob is good because he stayed
651
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,000
true to his art and um
652
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,440
while i was losing their heads all
653
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,039
around him and people were dying around
654
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:30,240
that flies
655
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,840
he still kept going
656
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,179
[Music]
657
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,840
so
658
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:17,840
[Laughter]
659
00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:43,180
[Laughter]
660
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,840
[Music]
661
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:55,870
so
662
00:25:55,870 --> 00:25:59,040
[Music]
663
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,840
so
664
00:26:12,190 --> 00:26:33,109
[Music]
665
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,840
is
666
00:26:41,390 --> 00:27:11,630
[Music]
667
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:21,840
catch up
668
00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:46,709
[Music]
669
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,530
through
670
00:27:49,530 --> 00:28:11,470
[Music]
671
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,840
is
672
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:33,599
[Music]
673
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,640
plymouth bretton side bus station early
674
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,360
summer 1981.
675
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,799
four scruffy-looking characters are
676
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,720
boarding a city-linked bus
677
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,320
pushing their few tatty belongings into
678
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,760
the hold
679
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,760
two of them are brothers both carry
680
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,440
guitars which they place carefully into
681
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,159
the overhead
682
00:28:54,159 --> 00:28:56,720
back baggage racks on board the precious
683
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,159
tools with which they hope to start a
684
00:28:58,159 --> 00:29:00,640
new life
685
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,919
they have traveled a few miles over
686
00:29:01,919 --> 00:29:03,919
dartmoor on a fine sunny day
687
00:29:03,919 --> 00:29:05,600
the tour is standing proud behind the
688
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,039
elverton and horror bridge and the
689
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,720
familiar dark more ponies resting in the
690
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,919
shade of the few trees that there are
691
00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:14,000
the first of the brothers is chris
692
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,240
later to be known as stig six feet four
693
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,320
in his brothel creepers and drain pipes
694
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,720
hair groomed and spiked meticulously an
695
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,279
extraordinarily handsome young man of 19
696
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:25,440
fresh and optimistic with a slight sid
697
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,840
vicious type snarl on his face
698
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,840
his brother rob sits opposite him in the
699
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,000
back of the bus a little shorter
700
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,760
and less striking apart from the spiky
701
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,520
peroxide blonde hair and a military
702
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,799
stance
703
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:38,840
a short dark-haired boy dumps his kit
704
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,320
unceremoniously
705
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,039
into the seat and slouches down against
706
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:43,600
the window
707
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,679
his clothes are dark his hair is swept
708
00:29:45,679 --> 00:29:47,360
in one long fringe down the side of his
709
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:47,840
face
710
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,440
in the style of phil okay of the human
711
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,919
league his bag contains a few clothes
712
00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:54,320
and a small wasp synthesizer this is
713
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:54,960
norman
714
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,640
the new romantic k comes along the aisle
715
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,679
last
716
00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:01,520
swaying slightly from one side to the
717
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,440
other she has a gallon of rough cider
718
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,640
clutched in one hand
719
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,279
and the other steadying her course kay
720
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:08,000
is tall too
721
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,679
fairly plain looking from a well-to-do
722
00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:11,200
family out on the moor
723
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,000
she holds herself well she and robert
724
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,600
planned this trip today was a fine day
725
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,960
to leave
726
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,880
when she talks there is a dry crackle in
727
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,000
her voice
728
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,559
but very little else to tell her apart
729
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:24,640
unnecessarily as you look at her arms
730
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,799
purple and yellow bruises in the crook
731
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,640
thin threaded veins collapsing under the
732
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,960
skin
733
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,799
a happy looking guy in the back starts
734
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:34,559
to talk to them and hands around some
735
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:35,520
mogadon
736
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,080
the cider helps to wash away the taste
737
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,600
the rumble of the bust and the diesel
738
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,360
fumes are the last memories before the
739
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,279
violent hess of the air breaks and rob
740
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:44,159
comes too
741
00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:46,159
wandering down the aisle falling out of
742
00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:47,760
the bus in a motorway car park
743
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,600
and vomiting over the side of it on
744
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,679
hands and knees as the inquisitive and
745
00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:53,120
disapproving passengers
746
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,559
take turns to look around the side of
747
00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:57,279
the door stig hangs off the stairway
748
00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:58,240
railing
749
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,919
rocking you want to learn to hold your
750
00:30:59,919 --> 00:31:01,760
drugs mate he drools
751
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,600
a hand going up to his lips to wipe away
752
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,600
the telltale sleep dribble
753
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,880
i laugh weakly and wretch again
754
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,640
another 20 miles on and we all begin to
755
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,159
come around the streets of bristol
756
00:31:12,159 --> 00:31:13,840
become sun bleached and hazy
757
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,679
curiously empty after the riots that had
758
00:31:15,679 --> 00:31:17,440
torn them apart just months ago
759
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,960
when the furnace of racial tension had
760
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,039
erupted within britain's inner cities
761
00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:22,480
and thatcher's bully boy police had
762
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,679
finally got a slapping down
763
00:31:25,770 --> 00:31:26,870
[Laughter]
764
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:30,000
[Music]
765
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,120
steve curtis had moved into a hostel
766
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,200
me and nil followed afterwards and then
767
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,240
the doll was paying
768
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,919
absolutely ridiculous amount of money to
769
00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:39,760
the hostel so that
770
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,760
so that we could stay there and then
771
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,039
after a while
772
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:44,880
steve curtis found an empty house down
773
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,200
the road and said you know
774
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,720
[ __ ] this i'm going to go and squat down
775
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,279
the road instead
776
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:52,960
and so we did the same thing we went and
777
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,640
squatted down the road but
778
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,320
we knew the check was delivered sort of
779
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,279
at a certain time so we always made sure
780
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:02,720
we were there to get the check that was
781
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,399
supposed to be going to the hostel so we
782
00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:04,880
became
783
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,240
like not millionaires but at that point
784
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,240
we we felt like we were millionaires we
785
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,240
just had a ridiculous amount of money we
786
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,399
lived in a squat for free
787
00:32:14,399 --> 00:32:18,480
um we used all our money on on partying
788
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,559
basically we
789
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,200
yeah i don't know so that what happened
790
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,480
is we had one squat that
791
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,799
got out of hand and got closed down it
792
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:28,640
had no electricity it had no
793
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,279
no water in the end it had no windows it
794
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:32,799
was winter
795
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,440
and we moved to over to another squad in
796
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,480
st paul's
797
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,279
that was at the the point in time of the
798
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:40,399
the bristol
799
00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:43,039
bristol riots so what what happened in
800
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:44,640
st paul's became a police
801
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,000
police free zone so it was an
802
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,080
amazing place to be a punk it was also a
803
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,080
very very dangerous place to to be
804
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,039
a punk in in some ways because just the
805
00:32:55,039 --> 00:32:56,159
community there was
806
00:32:56,159 --> 00:32:58,640
wasn't sure we it felt like the st
807
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,399
paul's community and the punk scene
808
00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:02,720
both kind of it was kind of misfits in
809
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,080
society in a way not
810
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,919
not fully accepted not understanding how
811
00:33:05,919 --> 00:33:08,159
we sort of fitting into society so there
812
00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:09,760
was some kind of
813
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,440
acceptance for us in some ways there
814
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,519
wasn't acceptance for us
815
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,240
we moved into uh to a squat in st paul's
816
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:16,640
and
817
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,600
i remember by that point we picked up a
818
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,840
bass player called steve robinson
819
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,799
and one day he he brought home the
820
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:26,960
amoebics
821
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,480
rob chris and norman
822
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,640
and that was that was the whole start
823
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,480
what they came into was
824
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,080
it was it felt very free for
825
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,080
authority there was just the police
826
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,840
didn't come into the area it was you
827
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,600
could do whatever you want if you wanted
828
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,640
to
829
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,480
get drunk and run naked up and down the
830
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,840
street no one was going to stop you i
831
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:48,399
mean
832
00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:50,720
it was just you could basically do what
833
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,559
you want but that then anyone could do
834
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,399
whatever they wanted to you as well so i
835
00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:54,880
mean you
836
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,919
could get stabbed in the area or
837
00:33:57,919 --> 00:34:00,399
um there was no point having anything of
838
00:34:00,399 --> 00:34:01,039
value in
839
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:02,720
in your house at all because it would
840
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,799
get stolen people would break in we did
841
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,600
have like gangs coming into the house
842
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,440
sneakers lying on the floor a few feet
843
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,719
away from me
844
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,560
he too is now wide awake what the [ __ ]
845
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,079
was that he asks
846
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,639
i mumbled downstairs as i call out on my
847
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:17,359
sleeping bag
848
00:34:17,359 --> 00:34:18,480
and over the yellow street lit
849
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,119
floorboards to the stairwell
850
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:22,159
someone is running up out of the
851
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:24,079
darkness below behind them the inhuman
852
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:24,960
screaming
853
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,119
it is dog running towards us wide-eyed
854
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:28,000
with panic
855
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,000
a bread bag of glue hanging from one arm
856
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,679
as his mouth opens and closes like a
857
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:33,199
fish on dry land
858
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:35,199
it's steve he says he told me to lock
859
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:36,239
him in the cellar
860
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,399
he's going off his [ __ ] head it was a
861
00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:39,679
crash and more wailing
862
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,280
stickers appear beside me whilst norman
863
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,719
and k huddle in their corners blankets
864
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,159
wrapped around them
865
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:46,560
there's nothing we can do now i say best
866
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,760
leave until the morning
867
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,918
we tried to get some sleep steve
868
00:34:49,918 --> 00:34:51,119
robinson is the
869
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,199
bass player for disorder i met him
870
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:54,719
walking across city road the other day
871
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,239
he's slight and fahrity looking with an
872
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,839
intense angry glare
873
00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:00,320
he wears a studded leather jacket his
874
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,839
hair shaved at the size to leave a short
875
00:35:01,839 --> 00:35:02,480
mohawk
876
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,800
what we call a borstal hecan the length
877
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,079
of the heating shows how long the man
878
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:07,680
has been out of prison
879
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,760
this is our first squat a derelict
880
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,599
four-story building in albert park just
881
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:12,880
off ashley road
882
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,400
both the stalking ground for prostitutes
883
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,160
and their punters
884
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,000
steve is a casual visitor he isn't
885
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,280
allowed to sniff around the disorder
886
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:19,839
squat
887
00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:21,440
so they've grown tired of his displays
888
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,680
of random violence and screaming fits
889
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,280
so we have the honor of his company by
890
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,440
default along with half a dozen other
891
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,880
vagrant youths moving in and out of the
892
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,720
place over the next few short weeks that
893
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:33,040
we are there
894
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,480
the disorder squat is just around the
895
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,640
corner in west grove a smaller place
896
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,079
with a resident hippie
897
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:40,560
jitter john he cooks up flower chapatis
898
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,160
on a small wood-burning stove whilst we
899
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,760
take a look upstairs
900
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,440
steve robertson and becky bondage share
901
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,520
a room one stained and damp mattress and
902
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,880
posters on the walls
903
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,520
these are the only furnishings here
904
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,960
becky is the singer for bristol's big
905
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,800
name punk band vice squad
906
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,480
we saw her on the way down the street or
907
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,160
at least her buttocks she pushed him out
908
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,480
the window to pee into the garden below
909
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,480
well they weren't just like normal a
910
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,839
normal punk band
911
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:08,240
norman came over as sort of a emo type
912
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,079
human league when because human league
913
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:11,760
was actually cool i mean a lot of people
914
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,000
think
915
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,720
about the this sort of stylophone pop
916
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:16,160
that they turned out but before then
917
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,760
sort of being boiled
918
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,079
it was kind of very industrial and dark
919
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:21,680
more towards the sort of cavalry
920
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,440
voltaire side of
921
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,680
of uh electronic music that was the sort
922
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,760
of electro punk that was brewing
923
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,560
sort of post 77 um
924
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,520
and they weren't just drunk punks they
925
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,040
they seem to
926
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,480
have some kind of know sort of an idea
927
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,119
and a mission
928
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:44,400
coming to to the big town bristol to do
929
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,040
something
930
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,480
it wasn't quite clear what they wanted
931
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,160
to do but
932
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,760
and yeah they had like
933
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,599
they had their roots in music they had
934
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:55,119
the band and
935
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:58,960
um no just
936
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,520
interesting bunch of people not not the
937
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,400
normal
938
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:03,680
sort of punks that we were hanging
939
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,280
around with at the times of the post
940
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,640
7778 punks which were
941
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,200
either absolute lunatics football
942
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,000
hooligans
943
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,240
or
944
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,079
yeah rejects really a lot of sort of
945
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:21,599
rejected people basically
946
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,079
they were slightly more intellectual and
947
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:25,040
just different
948
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,880
just a more interesting bunch more
949
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,400
creative they felt like
950
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,160
i'm more of a creative energy around
951
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,320
them i have a lot of really good
952
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,119
memories of
953
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,280
from that time and and like some of the
954
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,200
sort of crazy antics and
955
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,119
with bands like disorder and and
956
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:44,320
um chaos uk and rocking used to go up
957
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:44,720
and
958
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:48,320
play dungeons and dragons with chaos
959
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,079
well stig and i used to get mashed out
960
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:52,560
of our face and probably why rockin's
961
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,440
memory of it as well isn't so you know
962
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,880
happy is because we were probably
963
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,920
oblivious to
964
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,359
a lot of the crazy [ __ ] that was going
965
00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:00,880
on because we'd be out of our face a lot
966
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,800
of the time tonight
967
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,400
and it's a shame in some ways that we
968
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,920
were out of our face because there was a
969
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,839
lot of really good things that were
970
00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:09,520
you know that that you you did get
971
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,280
involved with at the time
972
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,440
yeah and and a lot of good gigs but
973
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,040
there weren't as many people as
974
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,440
who now claim to be have all these
975
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,720
people that say i wasn't maybe it's his
976
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:20,240
first kick right or maybe it's his first
977
00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:21,520
gig man we'd be
978
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,839
rich
979
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,000
when people go oh that's not punk rock i
980
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,280
don't want to [ __ ] listen to that
981
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,880
that's the way it is because it wasn't
982
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,960
it wasn't a popular thing then you know
983
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,599
it wasn't
984
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:36,079
was it it wasn't the you know what
985
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:37,760
everyone was into yes it definitely
986
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,280
inspired people i mean people like
987
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,640
antisect
988
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,680
came along yeah you know i mean
989
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,599
another band who had a brilliant sound
990
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,200
at the time and who would you know doing
991
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,160
something different and they'd been
992
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,200
through it a bit like
993
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,960
yeah and i think like stick said you
994
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,040
know at that time there was this whole
995
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,200
idea that maybe if it was like
996
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,359
loud and heavy you know crossing the
997
00:38:57,359 --> 00:38:59,839
sort of a narco thing with something
998
00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:00,560
that was
999
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,880
more metally than it it was a bit too
1000
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,480
macho and there was some people who were
1001
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,160
thinking that that was the case that you
1002
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,720
know
1003
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:09,520
maybe it's just too mature i i actually
1004
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,079
think the
1005
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,560
the amoebics were kind of rooted in it
1006
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,839
and i think that that gave them
1007
00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:14,880
credibility
1008
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,720
for them to hang on to their fans when
1009
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:18,240
they went off to do something a bit
1010
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:18,800
different
1011
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,640
which was their first album that sort of
1012
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,160
more heavy metal
1013
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,599
that kind of crossover was already
1014
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:25,520
happening i know it's happening in
1015
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,040
america in a different way
1016
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,480
but i think it gave them credibility
1017
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,960
that they had that a sort of
1018
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,560
a narco pass that they had been
1019
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,480
squatters and stuff like that so
1020
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,480
they had that credibility but they also
1021
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,079
seemed like they weren't part of it
1022
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:39,839
anymore they seemed they sort of moved
1023
00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:40,400
on
1024
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,359
they weren't openly political they
1025
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:45,359
didn't have a particularly political
1026
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:46,960
politicized agenda
1027
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,079
they just seemed to be sort of
1028
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,480
reflecting the kind of
1029
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,119
um i don't know what you would call it
1030
00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:53,599
of that
1031
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:55,440
particular moment of british history or
1032
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,960
or where
1033
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,480
you know culturally britain was at it
1034
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,000
was a pretty kind of bleak sort of
1035
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,359
moment in british history
1036
00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:05,040
um in terms of being young um
1037
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,599
mass unemployment you know there's
1038
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:08,640
general feeling that we were all sort of
1039
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,160
thrown onto the scrap heap there was a
1040
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,839
sort of mutterings of
1041
00:40:11,839 --> 00:40:13,839
you know there is going to be a war
1042
00:40:13,839 --> 00:40:14,880
between russia
1043
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,960
uh the soviet union and the west you
1044
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,920
know it was kind of
1045
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,040
sort of bleak days really so um
1046
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,800
a lot of the hopes of that narco scene
1047
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,160
would start to unravel
1048
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,240
you know um i think crass would have
1049
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,200
split up by that point at 84 or
1050
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,079
stop making records so the amoebics i
1051
00:40:32,079 --> 00:40:33,359
think they kind of
1052
00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:35,200
in some ways captured that turning point
1053
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,040
i suppose of the movement of the
1054
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,000
maturing of the
1055
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,280
narco scene but um they did sort of
1056
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:41,839
represent
1057
00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:45,680
i believe a break from it to be honest
1058
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,599
it was a hell of a good punk scene it
1059
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:49,040
was a lot of bands
1060
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,400
a hell of a lot of energy
1061
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,599
loads of gigs all the time
1062
00:40:57,359 --> 00:40:59,760
and a good close-knit family of people
1063
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:00,880
there was a lot of people writing
1064
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,000
fanzines there was a lot of people with
1065
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,960
you know independent record labels and a
1066
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,720
lot of bands came from that area of the
1067
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:09,760
country
1068
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,240
you know bristol baff and warminster
1069
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:18,160
so for that 40 mile radius
1070
00:41:18,319 --> 00:41:20,560
there was a huge number of great bands
1071
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,680
came from that area
1072
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,440
they didn't gig much and so there was a
1073
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,000
lot of anticipation around their music
1074
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,599
you know they were kind of they were
1075
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:29,359
slightly they weren't gigging all the
1076
00:41:29,359 --> 00:41:31,200
time like disorder or gigging all the
1077
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,119
time like chaos uk so
1078
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:34,960
it felt like their gig was a real event
1079
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,560
and i think it was just after they
1080
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,319
released that first album with the
1081
00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:41,200
uh um with alternative tentacles and so
1082
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,560
it was like
1083
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,920
that album was kind of really
1084
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,599
anticipated at that time and everybody
1085
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:46,880
was very excited and they had a
1086
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,400
different sound about them they seem to
1087
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,720
be doing stuff quite differently
1088
00:41:50,720 --> 00:41:52,319
i think one thing they did was they sort
1089
00:41:52,319 --> 00:41:54,160
of brought together some different
1090
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,680
groups so that the bike has seen that
1091
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,599
they were into some of the sort of
1092
00:41:57,599 --> 00:41:59,280
x or periphery of people who were on the
1093
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,440
convoy the punk scene the sort of
1094
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,079
hardcore scene a lot of people they did
1095
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:05,760
seem to be creating something new but
1096
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,920
it wasn't particularly accessible in
1097
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,520
terms of the scene i mean the thing with
1098
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,400
disorder
1099
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,160
chaos uk they were quite accessible as
1100
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,119
people quite easy to kind of approach
1101
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:17,280
um the amoebics always kind of seemed a
1102
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,839
bit like standoffish a bit separate
1103
00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:22,880
not so um like i said so accessible they
1104
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,800
were a bit kind of cooler dark glasses
1105
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,240
leather black leather
1106
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:29,280
you know which wasn't really what we
1107
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,000
were used to
1108
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,800
i suppose they were you know huddled in
1109
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,520
the corner and
1110
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,240
you know the [ __ ] was already had
1111
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:40,240
already overtaken them you know
1112
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:43,359
they were with you know winter and i
1113
00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:45,280
mean
1114
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,119
[ __ ] you know i no words really to
1115
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:51,760
describe the
1116
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,319
the power of the emotion of what they
1117
00:42:54,319 --> 00:42:56,319
what they do to us you know
1118
00:42:56,319 --> 00:43:00,160
it really isn't it's far beyond that
1119
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,079
truly you know the beginning of a rise
1120
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:05,839
you know the intro to arise i mean
1121
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,119
[ __ ] man is
1122
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:14,000
nothing peter definitely with with chris
1123
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,480
and
1124
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,119
he had his alastair crowley books and we
1125
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:17,680
had
1126
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,520
kind of very very long conversations
1127
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,160
i wasn't really super interested in it
1128
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,520
but i knew they were and
1129
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,880
so i knew there was some
1130
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,880
some background there you know it was in
1131
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,920
the time when
1132
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,800
everything that came out in uh
1133
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,160
underground
1134
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,160
was always digested you know and
1135
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,440
everything came through
1136
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,640
i lived in a kind of a community um
1137
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,319
where neurosis started we lived in we
1138
00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:46,240
were in a warehouse with
1139
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:49,760
25 other people and a lot of different
1140
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,760
music was starting to happen at the time
1141
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:52,960
and we were always
1142
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,960
it was all we did was music you know we
1143
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,400
just you know would work and
1144
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,960
work on music at night and bands all
1145
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,760
practiced there
1146
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,520
and kind of created and so um
1147
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,640
and i remember i remember really clearly
1148
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,119
actually
1149
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,720
him putting on the meebix record seven
1150
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:23,420
inch i think it was no sanctuary
1151
00:44:23,420 --> 00:44:27,920
[Music]
1152
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,800
you know as i immediately grabbed me
1153
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:31,440
because
1154
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,119
of the the different sound to it it was
1155
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:36,319
slower
1156
00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:40,240
it was darker which is much along the
1157
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:42,400
lines of where my head was at at the
1158
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,480
time
1159
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,160
where my head is at permanently
1160
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,720
basically
1161
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,760
i i kind of immediately felt something
1162
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:52,240
in my
1163
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,200
in my soul um when i heard them that i
1164
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,800
hadn't really felt
1165
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,160
um with very many things
1166
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,400
um i don't really know what that is you
1167
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,280
know it's very
1168
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:08,400
much very earthy you know like very um
1169
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,200
it just i just just felt like a direct
1170
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,640
connection you know like sometimes you
1171
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,319
hear something and you just know
1172
00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:17,520
like well this is this is for me
1173
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,119
this is something that i can really
1174
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:20,880
identify with
1175
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,240
chris's guitar playing was pretty good
1176
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:26,079
pretty superb because it was original
1177
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:27,599
and it's
1178
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,880
in like it had an inflection like
1179
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,280
celtic frost drumming it was a minute
1180
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,119
sound that was picked almost like
1181
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:36,800
strumming but with notes
1182
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,280
and not chords there was an original
1183
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,040
guitar sound
1184
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,560
if he had been say okay he would have
1185
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,240
carried on to have been a brilliant
1186
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:49,119
brilliant musician because two albums it
1187
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:50,720
was good enough but he could have gone
1188
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:51,040
on
1189
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,720
further because monolith opened up the
1190
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,760
door to many possibilities
1191
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,119
there's so many things you think about
1192
00:45:57,119 --> 00:45:58,880
all the tight things you've done not not
1193
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,800
on purpose but just
1194
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,280
you know feces occurs you know it does
1195
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,160
[ __ ] happens
1196
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,839
you know and a lot of people have died
1197
00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:09,040
along the way and a lot of people have
1198
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,079
been
1199
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:11,760
not hurt by us but they were kind of
1200
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,280
people drawn to that sort of thing and
1201
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,599
it was
1202
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:17,119
yeah yeah we've had a good laugh but a
1203
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:18,319
lot of people died along the way you
1204
00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:19,760
know it was
1205
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,520
some hard times and some
1206
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,880
but some funny times as well and you
1207
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,319
just end up smiling through the tears in
1208
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:28,800
the end because what can you do you know
1209
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,119
no it wasn't it wasn't good it was you
1210
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:32,240
know what i've what i've said to people
1211
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:33,200
before is that
1212
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,680
the whole thing about bristol is it's
1213
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:36,960
something that
1214
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,640
it would have been much better if we'd
1215
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,960
had a year if we'd had a season in
1216
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,400
bristol you know
1217
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,720
um rather than four years the the the
1218
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:47,359
longer it went on there the more deeply
1219
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:49,760
mired we became in this mud you know and
1220
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,480
it's
1221
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,079
it's unpleasant talking about it because
1222
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:57,440
it was just like just increasing despair
1223
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,200
really i mean we had something going for
1224
00:46:59,200 --> 00:46:59,839
us in the
1225
00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:00,960
the fact that the band was going
1226
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,640
somewhere but looking back on it we were
1227
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,599
just getting
1228
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:05,359
deeper and deeper and deeper in this
1229
00:47:05,359 --> 00:47:07,040
sludge you know
1230
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,319
the the the image that that i sometimes
1231
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:10,960
use is
1232
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,640
just just a dead city walking around
1233
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,040
um in between different squats and
1234
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,640
everybody's asleep eventually you know
1235
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,680
everybody's [ __ ]
1236
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,880
gouched out there's just drugs
1237
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,200
pulling the soul out of the whole place
1238
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,000
the
1239
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,200
the whole creative impetus of the
1240
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,880
bristol scene just getting
1241
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,720
drained away by this perpetual
1242
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:37,440
[ __ ] erosion of drugs you know of
1243
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,000
smack
1244
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,800
culture of the selfish [ __ ] nihilism
1245
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,160
or the whole thing you know
1246
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,960
i don't have much i don't have much
1247
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,960
sentimentality toward bristol at all it
1248
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,800
was a very very hard time
1249
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,359
there was constant insecurity constant
1250
00:47:53,359 --> 00:47:57,440
um constant trouble you know
1251
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,040
by that time the punk metal crossover
1252
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:01,599
thing had
1253
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:04,720
taken off in this country in europe and
1254
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:05,280
i think
1255
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,880
somewhat they were forerunners of that
1256
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,880
as well
1257
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,960
so they they appealed to a more to a
1258
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,960
more metal audience as well
1259
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,200
not just that standard punk rock
1260
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,680
audience
1261
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:21,920
and uh i think they've taken punk rock
1262
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,839
to a different vein as well you know
1263
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,440
it wasn't three chord punk rock and it
1264
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,640
wasn't
1265
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:35,119
real like crusty core
1266
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:36,880
and it wasn't them like the american
1267
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,960
hardcore it was i think they were
1268
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,559
they were very unique a very unique
1269
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:42,880
sound
1270
00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:45,200
and they were great they were great at
1271
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,880
it you know fantastic musicians
1272
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,839
fantastic people
1273
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:56,000
[Music]
1274
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,200
because i remember at the time there was
1275
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,079
the there was a lot of what
1276
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:03,920
anarchists found around and i
1277
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,160
personally i was i was always interested
1278
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,800
in in heavy metal as a musical
1279
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,640
form but i thought the lyrics were [ __ ]
1280
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:11,839
you know throwing
1281
00:49:11,839 --> 00:49:13,440
every minute were pathetic at that time
1282
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,359
definitely you know more so
1283
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:16,559
than now maybe there's a lot of [ __ ]
1284
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:17,920
around now but you know i'm not down
1285
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,760
with the kids i don't know
1286
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,559
but um i thought that i used to love all
1287
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,240
black sabbath i liked the way that
1288
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:25,839
the music made you feel something rather
1289
00:49:25,839 --> 00:49:27,359
than just the words
1290
00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:29,280
and i'd listen to something like crass
1291
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:30,640
or whatever and i like grass you know
1292
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,280
but
1293
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,720
the words would make you still feel
1294
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,000
something but the music really didn't
1295
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:34,960
have
1296
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,920
much of a resonance you know like in
1297
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:38,559
deep
1298
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:40,480
you know that's that's why i thought
1299
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,480
let's try and do something a bit more
1300
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,160
powerful musically and we can make good
1301
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,040
lyrics and good music to kind of
1302
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,480
get a bit of force together you know to
1303
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,319
really push a point home
1304
00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:53,359
with some a bit of intensity you know so
1305
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:54,800
even if you couldn't understand english
1306
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,400
you'd understand basically
1307
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:57,760
the song was saying this or that was
1308
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,440
going this or that way
1309
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:04,160
for us when we first started neurosis
1310
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,480
we were looking to
1311
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,000
build a foundation for a project
1312
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,839
that would last for our lifetimes and
1313
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:20,160
we were able to separate
1314
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,520
about six bands from
1315
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,760
all the other music that we knew of and
1316
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,839
say okay these
1317
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:30,960
are the things that that we these are
1318
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,119
band these are examples you know
1319
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:35,359
people who came before us who did things
1320
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:36,160
that we
1321
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,040
really respected for any number of ways
1322
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,400
and um
1323
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,480
amoebics was at the top of that list
1324
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,599
because
1325
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:48,000
of the the power of what they did
1326
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,680
and you know i really
1327
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,040
one of the things that i really liked
1328
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,800
about them
1329
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,599
and one of the things that we were never
1330
00:50:57,599 --> 00:50:59,280
interested in doing was getting involved
1331
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,559
in any sort of real
1332
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:02,400
politics with our music because we felt
1333
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,240
that you know music needed to transcend
1334
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:06,319
all politics and just be
1335
00:51:06,319 --> 00:51:09,839
emotion driven communication
1336
00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:13,520
um to a larger you know group of
1337
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:17,040
of people and amoebics would at the time
1338
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,040
there was a lot of very political stuff
1339
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:19,760
especially
1340
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,640
punk rock whatever you want to call it
1341
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:23,800
scene and a lot of
1342
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,040
anti-religion uh
1343
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,800
stuff going on and amoebics were kind of
1344
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,400
had stepped beyond that
1345
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,520
and they were basically writing
1346
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,240
for my interpretation these almost
1347
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:40,960
religious
1348
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:51,839
songs but from a pagan perspective
1349
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:07,119
but there contribution was
1350
00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:09,680
totally unique in that in that way
1351
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:10,319
because they
1352
00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:13,280
again they didn't come from this super
1353
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,160
political thing
1354
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,520
there's a little bit in there at the
1355
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,680
beginning you can tell that they have
1356
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,440
this tie to it and
1357
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,480
and i know from watching uh what the
1358
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,319
[ __ ] movie is it's uk dk
1359
00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:28,319
where they're with disorder and you know
1360
00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:30,079
and living together or something you
1361
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,720
know at that time that that's their
1362
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,520
that's kind of their tribe you know but
1363
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,880
something happened to them that
1364
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,319
which i have no uh knowledge of
1365
00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:46,800
that that brought them to a more primal
1366
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,280
pagan
1367
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:53,280
warrior sort of
1368
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,920
sound and communication you know
1369
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,200
whereas everybody else was kind of
1370
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,280
getting caught up in details
1371
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,119
they were just like way past that
1372
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:06,000
immediately
1373
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:15,839
you know
1374
00:53:26,839 --> 00:53:29,310
so
1375
00:53:29,310 --> 00:53:32,420
[Music]
1376
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,760
i just want to make music that was
1377
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,000
extremely powerful so i want
1378
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,359
personally i wanted a mixture of because
1379
00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:38,480
i used to take a lot of acid and i used
1380
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:39,839
to love to listen to black sabbath on
1381
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:40,319
that one
1382
00:53:40,319 --> 00:53:42,240
taking acid and it's really really
1383
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:44,400
cranked up full volume you know
1384
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,680
because it's almost frightening you know
1385
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:46,640
some of that music because it's
1386
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,839
especially when you're dripping it
1387
00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:48,720
off and you've got hairs on the back of
1388
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:51,520
your neck and oh [ __ ] you know you know
1389
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:52,720
i thought i want to get that sound with
1390
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:54,559
a medicine that heavy oh
1391
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:56,400
you know but with less [ __ ] lyrics
1392
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,000
basically that was kind of my deal with
1393
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:58,559
it
1394
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:01,440
and it and it wasn't really discussed me
1395
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,040
and rob just knew what we wanted to do
1396
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,640
you know so me and him had these ideas
1397
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,240
between us you know and we didn't really
1398
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:07,440
have to even talk about it you know when
1399
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:08,480
you
1400
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,599
there's something about taking acid
1401
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:10,800
together you don't even need to discuss
1402
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,920
things you sit and listen to a piece of
1403
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,280
music you're just going
1404
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,200
[ __ ] yeah you know what i mean that's
1405
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,800
the [ __ ] way man that's it you know
1406
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:17,440
like
1407
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,319
i said sabbath bloody stuff i love that
1408
00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:21,760
riff man it's a [ __ ] menstruation
1409
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:22,960
especially want me to sit around eating
1410
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,040
nasty just listen to that
1411
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,720
we used to take acid from about like two
1412
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:27,760
o'clock in the morning and then sit
1413
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,800
around and watch the sun come up you
1414
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,280
know in st
1415
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,319
paul's the
1416
00:54:32,319 --> 00:54:35,680
music that we've been playing um prior
1417
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,839
the releases that we put out before as i
1418
00:54:37,839 --> 00:54:38,880
tried to explain
1419
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,559
they had this sort of desperate um
1420
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:44,400
desperate songwriting qualities and then
1421
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,839
there was nothing was really cohesive
1422
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:47,680
nothing was really tight
1423
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,160
we'd been putting together the the ideas
1424
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,599
and the songs for a rise
1425
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:54,799
when neil announced in radstock one one
1426
00:54:54,799 --> 00:54:56,079
time after he and i had been living
1427
00:54:56,079 --> 00:54:57,920
there in these sort of pretty much
1428
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,400
squat conditions but in a village but
1429
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,000
quite happily you know he just announced
1430
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,200
that he'd had enough and he was going
1431
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,079
back to
1432
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,559
cleveland or wherever it was at the time
1433
00:55:06,559 --> 00:55:07,359
um
1434
00:55:07,359 --> 00:55:08,559
left us having to look for another
1435
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:10,960
drummer and we we asked some of the guys
1436
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:11,839
that we knew
1437
00:55:11,839 --> 00:55:13,680
in the in the bath circuit and they said
1438
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,680
oh well there's this guy from a band
1439
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,400
called scum
1440
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,720
called dumb spider you know maybe go and
1441
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:19,760
approach him so
1442
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,000
they had they had this sort of weird
1443
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:22,880
kind of bar
1444
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,799
particular bath type of squat which is
1445
00:55:24,799 --> 00:55:26,240
very quite nice you know
1446
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:27,920
on the edge of the railway there and
1447
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,280
went around to see him
1448
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,040
gave him a tape and he was just like
1449
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,480
spiders the spider has always been
1450
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:32,960
spidey
1451
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,280
he's just missed a regular guy you know
1452
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,960
he's i'm a drummer and a band i like
1453
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,400
drumming in the band he's brilliant
1454
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,839
absolute [ __ ] sort of the earth you
1455
00:55:39,839 --> 00:55:41,839
know we clicked straight away
1456
00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:44,400
um gave him the tape and he came back
1457
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,760
and he started practicing with us
1458
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,440
and what he did was he brought us a
1459
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,440
solid beat in we were doing you know
1460
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,839
basically no more of this pissing around
1461
00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:53,359
on the toms it was just
1462
00:55:53,359 --> 00:55:55,119
it was more of a more of a rock rock
1463
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:56,559
steady kind of thing you know
1464
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:58,480
so applying that to the the songs that
1465
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,559
we're writing and finding out you know
1466
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:02,720
first chorus first chorus middle eight
1467
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:04,400
making things exciting making them
1468
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,880
dynamic really having having a drummer
1469
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,720
and this new energetic force there gave
1470
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:10,160
us the opportunity to
1471
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,799
to really um really explore the sound
1472
00:56:12,799 --> 00:56:13,359
that we
1473
00:56:13,359 --> 00:56:16,799
that we wanted that's when we started to
1474
00:56:16,799 --> 00:56:18,240
hang around in bath a bit more and met
1475
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:19,839
spider on that you know so
1476
00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:21,119
something got spider drumming for us
1477
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:22,400
that's when we started to get it really
1478
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,599
sorted out the sound i think it got a
1479
00:56:23,599 --> 00:56:25,920
lot better than you know
1480
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,200
because with virus it was a bit it was a
1481
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,400
good drummer on that but it was a sloppy
1482
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,440
kind of style because he was used to
1483
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,000
playing that very
1484
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,680
fast punk rock for disorder you know so
1485
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:32,799
when it came down to playing something a
1486
00:56:32,799 --> 00:56:33,200
bit
1487
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,960
of a different speed it was good but it
1488
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,240
was
1489
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:37,200
i don't know it could have done with a
1490
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,400
bit more an edge to it and i was glad
1491
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,280
that we got spider
1492
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,319
though virus was good you know i was
1493
00:56:42,319 --> 00:56:45,839
glad we got spiders which is that um
1494
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,640
no sanctuary we did that i can't
1495
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:49,680
remember who paid for that one i don't
1496
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,720
know if we paid for that
1497
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:51,760
because that's the thing with the movie
1498
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,599
it could have been the production could
1499
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:54,960
have been a lot better on our records
1500
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:55,520
that's the
1501
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,000
only thing that i do get pissed off
1502
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,440
about sometimes i think [ __ ] hell the
1503
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,799
man that sounds so [ __ ]
1504
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:02,559
but it could have been so much more
1505
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:04,000
powerful you know but if we'd had the
1506
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,520
money and it's just
1507
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,119
it's recorded with our gyros usually we
1508
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:08,400
just put like four or five gyros
1509
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:09,599
together and save off the money for a
1510
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:11,839
couple of weeks or whatever you know
1511
00:57:11,839 --> 00:57:15,280
arise was clearly a uh
1512
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,720
more of a refined beast than
1513
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,680
uh winter who's the enemy or even no
1514
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,920
sanctuary which kind of pointed in that
1515
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:24,960
direction
1516
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,640
it was a little more honed they had a
1517
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,480
little bit more of a focus of what they
1518
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,920
wanted to do
1519
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,200
it was starting to go a bit in a metal
1520
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,000
direction
1521
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,599
but it was still very crude
1522
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:40,319
very raw and in a way a distinct
1523
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:43,119
advantage that stig was not a
1524
00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:45,839
flashy fleet-fingered guitar player who
1525
00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:47,920
could put in a lot of wanky solos it
1526
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,280
just was this
1527
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,960
collective thing that nobody else really
1528
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,040
had by that time it would be it would
1529
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,079
become quite
1530
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:59,760
rigorous in the um its own introspection
1531
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,200
that that whole scene
1532
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,680
um and claustrophobic because there were
1533
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,359
so many people making up rules about
1534
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:06,720
what you could say what you could think
1535
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,079
how you could express yourself
1536
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:09,839
what you could wear what you should be
1537
00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:11,599
eating and all these [ __ ] micro
1538
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:14,400
microcosmic rules that you were all of a
1539
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,000
sudden faced with from a
1540
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,720
a yeah a free thinking philosophy that
1541
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,000
originally started out and
1542
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,400
really had inspired us as a band to say
1543
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,079
create your own music create your own
1544
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:25,760
identity and then to find yourself
1545
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,440
in this cul-de-sac of conformity within
1546
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,839
you know a so-called experimental and
1547
00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:32,559
interesting
1548
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:34,400
and a live scene which was gradually
1549
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,079
dying which gradually choking itself
1550
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:37,040
with its own
1551
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,240
um with its own uh will will for
1552
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:41,760
conformity really
1553
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,040
we really needed to to stay outside of
1554
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:45,599
that
1555
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:47,599
and i think it was a difficult step for
1556
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:48,799
a lot of people to accept what we were
1557
00:58:48,799 --> 00:58:50,319
doing we got slagged off
1558
00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:53,119
really badly for a rise by um by some
1559
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:54,400
people when it came out they couldn't
1560
00:58:54,400 --> 00:59:04,530
stand it at all they just didn't like
1561
00:59:04,530 --> 00:59:16,839
[Music]
1562
00:59:16,839 --> 00:59:18,620
so
1563
00:59:18,620 --> 00:59:50,090
[Music]
1564
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:58,839
[Music]
1565
00:59:58,839 --> 01:00:00,020
eyes
1566
01:00:00,020 --> 01:00:12,839
[Music]
1567
01:00:12,839 --> 01:00:15,839
what
1568
01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:20,050
[Music]
1569
01:00:26,839 --> 01:00:27,950
is
1570
01:00:27,950 --> 01:00:31,030
[Music]
1571
01:00:33,450 --> 01:00:40,799
[Music]
1572
01:00:40,839 --> 01:00:41,870
me
1573
01:00:41,870 --> 01:00:47,300
[Music]
1574
01:00:52,790 --> 01:00:54,839
[Music]
1575
01:00:54,839 --> 01:00:57,839
is
1576
01:01:00,950 --> 01:01:08,839
[Music]
1577
01:01:08,839 --> 01:01:11,839
out
1578
01:01:12,290 --> 01:01:15,429
[Music]
1579
01:01:50,839 --> 01:01:53,510
is
1580
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:56,629
[Music]
1581
01:02:04,839 --> 01:02:07,839
one
1582
01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:21,920
mix was a very foundational piece in our
1583
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,760
uh growing as men and spirituality
1584
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,359
you know a very influential piece and
1585
01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:31,119
when you're when you're young men you
1586
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:33,920
know or young people you're looking for
1587
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,119
you're looking for your tribe you're
1588
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:36,640
looking for who your people are for who
1589
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,000
your brothers are that you're going to
1590
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:38,640
be with
1591
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,000
you know for the rest of your life the
1592
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,839
people are going to have your back
1593
01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:43,680
and we were looking for that i think in
1594
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,119
our different ways and we were looking
1595
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:45,520
for
1596
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,520
um a sense of who our tribe was
1597
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,680
and part of that we found just an
1598
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,520
independent music in general you know
1599
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:54,000
i'd say
1600
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,359
you know a lot of the people we've met
1601
01:02:55,359 --> 01:02:56,799
who we hold dear over the years are
1602
01:02:56,799 --> 01:02:58,960
involved in independent music
1603
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,039
uh you know brothers we've toured with
1604
01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:02,640
and and what have you
1605
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,880
um and i but i think that was kind of
1606
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:05,920
the soundtrack
1607
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,079
at that time of who our tribe might be
1608
01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:09,280
out there you know
1609
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,559
the people that we'll meet around the
1610
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:12,559
world might all just have something in
1611
01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:14,240
common with this music
1612
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,520
you know because it was uh especially
1613
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,280
from an american point of view you have
1614
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,400
a tendency to mythologize what you can't
1615
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,000
be near i'm sure it's different for
1616
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,680
people uh
1617
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:28,960
who grew up in england but for me i i
1618
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,119
kind of mythologized the
1619
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:33,599
english music and something thinking oh
1620
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:34,799
that you know
1621
01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:38,400
amoebics has that same kind of
1622
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,680
ancient stone stonehenge festival vibe
1623
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,079
that
1624
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:45,839
the early hawkwind stuff had and that um
1625
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:47,599
other guitar driven psychedelic music
1626
01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:50,240
had it felt like it had the celtic soul
1627
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,520
or the saxon soul in the music
1628
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:54,720
there was something in it that could
1629
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,640
have only happened on this place
1630
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,160
you know and for those of us looking
1631
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,200
back over the water for our roots
1632
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,839
uh that was extremely important to try
1633
01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:05,680
to think that you might
1634
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,119
have something in common with this other
1635
01:04:07,119 --> 01:04:09,359
group of people over there who are
1636
01:04:09,359 --> 01:04:12,400
closer to the source we were just
1637
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,000
rocking out you know
1638
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,160
just [ __ ] tracking we were just
1639
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,280
really
1640
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,000
just right into it it was um i was
1641
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,599
always overwhelmed by the music you know
1642
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:22,240
if you get
1643
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,160
if you get a good pa and you you get the
1644
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,280
equipment working right and you've got
1645
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,640
the volume right up and it's all clear
1646
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:27,280
and stuff
1647
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,359
you just get completely buzzed up by the
1648
01:04:29,359 --> 01:04:30,720
whole thing and it was
1649
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,319
an electric and an electrifying
1650
01:04:32,319 --> 01:04:33,760
experience to be able to play
1651
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,039
some some songs yeah were
1652
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:38,960
so powerful to play live they were just
1653
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,240
the hairs are standing up on the back of
1654
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:41,440
your neck as you're playing this stuff
1655
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:42,720
and it was really
1656
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,960
manifesting presence for us you know we
1657
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,440
we drew everything up from from
1658
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:48,880
within ourselves and tried to get it
1659
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:55,839
there in that room
1660
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,480
i always liked the things that i
1661
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,119
discovered in punk rock that had
1662
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:40,799
bigger guitar sound you know they've
1663
01:05:40,799 --> 01:05:42,559
been a more uh
1664
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:44,799
thunderous thing and it had the texture
1665
01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:47,760
that you liked from motorhead or venom
1666
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:53,039
but it had you knew it had the ethics
1667
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:54,640
from the do-it-yourself mentality
1668
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,400
because of the the scene it was coming
1669
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,920
from it was coming from
1670
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,039
you know the english craft southern
1671
01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:03,280
records kind of
1672
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,440
scene but then like scott said it was uh
1673
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:09,520
it brought to mind something deeper it
1674
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,280
brought to mind even though it said no
1675
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:13,359
gods no masters to me it brought to my
1676
01:06:13,359 --> 01:06:19,839
mind pagan gods
1677
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:35,760
the unconscious um
1678
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,640
stuff that was uh it's difficult to
1679
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:39,680
explain but the
1680
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,440
um the the the spiritual element of amex
1681
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:44,319
if you like
1682
01:06:44,319 --> 01:06:48,160
um was uh an integral part of everything
1683
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:49,599
that we did
1684
01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:52,480
it was like stig and i were both very
1685
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:53,200
much
1686
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,440
tuned in to the same place when we were
1687
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:56,319
playing
1688
01:06:56,319 --> 01:06:59,920
and it's like we we saw the same pot
1689
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:01,440
that we were drawing from
1690
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,039
and we knew that that was there we
1691
01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:04,480
didn't know quite how it worked but we
1692
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:04,799
knew
1693
01:07:04,799 --> 01:07:06,640
that we were trying to draw energy up
1694
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,160
from this source and
1695
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,839
that we were aware that it was um
1696
01:07:11,839 --> 01:07:14,960
it was like like the the group
1697
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,799
unconscious of the band itself if you
1698
01:07:16,799 --> 01:07:18,559
like you know our connection with the
1699
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:21,280
the the the deeper root of things i mean
1700
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:22,799
i always take all those things as with a
1701
01:07:22,799 --> 01:07:24,880
picture so i'm an atheist you know and
1702
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:25,680
i'm i'm
1703
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,559
i believe i don't believe in in mystical
1704
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:29,680
mumbo jumbo
1705
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,359
to me it's just nonsense i don't believe
1706
01:07:31,359 --> 01:07:32,960
that fairies at the end of the garden
1707
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,640
and i don't believe in jesus christ and
1708
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,160
i certainly don't believe
1709
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:40,319
that there's some uh um you know kind of
1710
01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:42,720
underlying dark spiritual currents man
1711
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:43,680
you know people do
1712
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,760
bad things and you'll attract bad stuff
1713
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,119
you know that's my view
1714
01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:50,799
um so i don't necessarily you know
1715
01:07:50,799 --> 01:07:53,760
missed the mystique of the amoebics no i
1716
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,839
i don't buy it at all
1717
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,640
after a rise was recorded that was our
1718
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:07,839
kind of
1719
01:08:07,839 --> 01:08:11,520
seminal album i think then it kind of
1720
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,280
went down a bit then we recorded
1721
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,560
monolith which is in a different league
1722
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,279
i think monolith was a brilliant album
1723
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:19,600
but
1724
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,880
different and not as good as the rise
1725
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,319
either really was it well
1726
01:08:24,319 --> 01:08:27,839
i don't know you say not as good
1727
01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:29,759
i don't know i wouldn't like to say that
1728
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:31,439
i could listen to the risers of fans i
1729
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:32,000
suppose
1730
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,319
is that there's a rise there on modern
1731
01:08:34,319 --> 01:08:35,040
affair
1732
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,120
and we kind of peaked about there you
1733
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,479
know what i mean
1734
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,439
but after monolith we kind of started to
1735
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,439
run out of ideas really we tried
1736
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,359
different ideas and thought this ain't
1737
01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:48,960
working
1738
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,279
so we decided to knock it on there then
1739
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:52,158
it was either that
1740
01:08:52,158 --> 01:08:54,880
we do more of the same which wasn't yeah
1741
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,319
we decided to quit
1742
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:59,359
while the government was good basically
1743
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:01,839
bath changed everything bath bath gave
1744
01:09:01,839 --> 01:09:02,640
us
1745
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,839
i don't know it's it's exactly the other
1746
01:09:05,839 --> 01:09:07,120
the other side of the coin when i think
1747
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:07,679
about it
1748
01:09:07,679 --> 01:09:09,279
you know if i look at bristol i see
1749
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:12,238
bristol as cold hard winters
1750
01:09:12,238 --> 01:09:15,679
difficult um yeah streets full of
1751
01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:18,238
wind and rain just desperate times
1752
01:09:18,238 --> 01:09:18,799
always
1753
01:09:18,799 --> 01:09:21,198
constantly hung hungry constantly bloody
1754
01:09:21,198 --> 01:09:21,920
skin
1755
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,158
uh always trying to get the next thing
1756
01:09:24,158 --> 01:09:24,960
together
1757
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,479
and bath was a yeah aqua solace is
1758
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:35,838
the image of the sun
1759
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,880
the idealism started to break up in some
1760
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,279
ways i just it just felt
1761
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:43,600
all very very wrong in in some ways we
1762
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,120
went from
1763
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,040
it felt like something that was creative
1764
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,520
and good went into
1765
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:50,880
it felt like it was it was being
1766
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:54,238
corrupted in in some ways by
1767
01:09:54,238 --> 01:09:57,760
kind of the sort of this traveling
1768
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,679
attitude kind of thing a lot of the punk
1769
01:09:59,679 --> 01:10:03,120
sort of moved into the traveling scene
1770
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,320
um started dealing drugs it
1771
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,400
it just felt all wrong at that point as
1772
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:09,679
it was kind of a split
1773
01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:12,159
off point for me in in some ways i came
1774
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:14,719
in about 1987
1775
01:10:14,719 --> 01:10:17,040
basically i i met spontaneous stig at a
1776
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,159
party
1777
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:20,320
and um i was playing in a band at time
1778
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,000
and we were talking he said about
1779
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:22,880
supporting them
1780
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,440
send a tape sort of thing so i went back
1781
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:26,960
to them because they're a metal band
1782
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:27,199
they
1783
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:29,600
i had a bit of a ride with them about uh
1784
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,199
and they would they want to play with a
1785
01:10:31,199 --> 01:10:32,560
punk band
1786
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,080
so i left and so i sent stick a note
1787
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,640
saying sorry mate you know um
1788
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:42,320
i uh can't do it because i'm got a band
1789
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:43,040
anymore
1790
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,040
and they asked me if if i fancy playing
1791
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:46,080
keyboards playing fl
1792
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,560
mined on play seen a keyboard before i
1793
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,159
was a bass player
1794
01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:52,880
i thought why not you know and then um
1795
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,440
what's it about a week later i met you
1796
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,600
he was handed out flyers a gig that was
1797
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:58,880
a weird wallet yeah
1798
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,640
i just joined this man he said oh i'm
1799
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,480
the drummer you know because he hadn't
1800
01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:05,360
been told daddy
1801
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,440
of course then he went and punched me
1802
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:09,120
outside washing that bike didn't you
1803
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:09,560
flatter
1804
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:14,800
yeah cold we've been friends ever since
1805
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,719
i'd seen amoebics loads of times before
1806
01:11:28,719 --> 01:11:30,640
because i was i was in previous bands
1807
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,400
before and i just thought they were
1808
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:32,880
[ __ ]
1809
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,560
amazing really i couldn't really work
1810
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,640
amex out i didn't know what they were
1811
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,159
all about you know they were there was
1812
01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:42,080
something mysterious about amoebics
1813
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:44,880
and then someone said do you want to
1814
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:45,440
join
1815
01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:49,280
us and i said so it's a learning
1816
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:54,930
process really it's [ __ ] great yeah
1817
01:11:54,930 --> 01:11:57,280
[Music]
1818
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,600
i was in the thrash metal at the time i
1819
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,520
came from a wooden background myself
1820
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,920
still got a wooden head to go with it
1821
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:09,760
whatever
1822
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,640
stig really still wanted to be playing
1823
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:12,960
so
1824
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,360
he's he went into forming a band with
1825
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,640
zygote with spider
1826
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,480
they still wanted to keep things going i
1827
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:21,679
was in the situation where
1828
01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:24,159
it was both the the the inspiration had
1829
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:25,760
dried up but also the fact that i was in
1830
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,440
this relationship which was
1831
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:31,600
really uh really asking a lot of me as a
1832
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,560
young man who had
1833
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,239
previously known no responsibilities
1834
01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:36,880
whatsoever all of a sudden to have i've
1835
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,960
landed in a situation where i had a
1836
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,320
woman who was wanting a serious
1837
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:41,120
relationship
1838
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,560
with whom i had a child um against my
1839
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:48,000
express [ __ ] wishes initially um
1840
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,560
and who all of a sudden gave me a big
1841
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:51,920
bundle of this stuff called
1842
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,600
responsibility and
1843
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,440
a relationship to the so-called real
1844
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:56,960
world which i hadn't had up until that
1845
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:57,520
moment
1846
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,960
i've been living this really strange
1847
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,880
fringe existence ever since leaving
1848
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,120
school um and then all of a sudden to be
1849
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,080
landed with this
1850
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,000
with a big blow around the head which is
1851
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,280
you know you're going to need to get a
1852
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:09,920
job
1853
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,120
you're going to need to be a proper
1854
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,560
upstanding citizen you've got to be
1855
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:13,920
[ __ ] adult about this
1856
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,600
and yeah sure she was right but also
1857
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,320
what that did was it sucked or
1858
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,400
sucked all of the the the juice out of
1859
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,080
the creative vein that we had tapped
1860
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,520
until it was just this with a little
1861
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,199
stump you know
1862
01:13:25,199 --> 01:13:27,199
maybe it's like you know with people
1863
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:29,199
people who die young get remembered as
1864
01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:30,640
being something brilliant
1865
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,320
and i think with bands amoebics are a
1866
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,239
bit like that you know they're like
1867
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:37,520
because they died young they'll
1868
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,199
they've they've left something which
1869
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:42,400
stands shoulders above the rest
1870
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,000
i think another thing that's kept
1871
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,440
amoebics music
1872
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:48,480
and vision alive is people including
1873
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:49,199
myself
1874
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:52,560
are always deeply drawn into the artwork
1875
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,840
it doesn't look like other hardcore
1876
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:58,400
or a narco punk artwork it doesn't look
1877
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,000
like puss head it doesn't look
1878
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,360
like mad mark roode or ray pettibone or
1879
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,239
winston smith it was something very very
1880
01:14:06,239 --> 01:14:08,880
different and when we were getting ready
1881
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,000
to
1882
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,320
release a rise on alternative tentacles
1883
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,600
i i
1884
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,920
rob was the only person i ever made the
1885
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,560
offer to that he ought to redraw the a t
1886
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,880
bat logo just for the amoebics release i
1887
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,400
thought that would have been really cool
1888
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:23,199
but
1889
01:14:23,199 --> 01:14:26,239
i guess they decided not to do that the
1890
01:14:26,239 --> 01:14:27,679
artwork
1891
01:14:27,679 --> 01:14:30,320
has been on patches and bootleg t-shirts
1892
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:31,760
and real t-shirts
1893
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,520
ever since and i think a lot of the
1894
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,600
people who
1895
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,000
are drawn to that in this case anyway
1896
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,560
are also drawn to the band themselves
1897
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,640
because people clearly are still
1898
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,239
listening to them to this day and
1899
01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:46,000
getting something out of the amoebics
1900
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,280
they're not getting anywhere else
1901
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,719
things went wrong after the band split
1902
01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:55,520
for me personally getting stuck in a
1903
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,199
difficult relationship
1904
01:14:57,199 --> 01:14:58,719
uh moving into a house and i found it
1905
01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:00,400
difficult to afford to run having to get
1906
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:00,800
a
1907
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,400
proper job in a factory uh then working
1908
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,320
in a you know as builders labourer doing
1909
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,840
this doing that doing anything i could
1910
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,120
for money
1911
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,520
but being very unhappy basically and
1912
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:12,400
really stuck
1913
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:16,000
in in in an unhappy part of my life
1914
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,360
um eventually split up and i was on my
1915
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:20,159
own
1916
01:15:20,159 --> 01:15:22,159
and i ended up having this a bike
1917
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:23,280
accident
1918
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,679
i broke my arm trashed the bike even my
1919
01:15:25,679 --> 01:15:26,880
clothes were ripped to pieces so i had
1920
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,120
absolutely nothing left
1921
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,280
and for funny it was it really it was a
1922
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:32,960
real big epiphany in my life i
1923
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:37,040
i am i i was finally you know
1924
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,960
right down on my ass with nothing
1925
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,199
nothing to to show for a life at all
1926
01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:43,120
um and just thought well [ __ ] i'll go up
1927
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,280
the sky visit my folks up here because i
1928
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:46,239
had six weeks off
1929
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:48,239
for my work because of the broken arm
1930
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:49,280
and and maybe
1931
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,520
you know maybe something will happen
1932
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,280
when i got here i just thought
1933
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:54,880
take the hint do something different
1934
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,719
change your life just um
1935
01:15:56,719 --> 01:15:58,239
this is an opportunity you know the door
1936
01:15:58,239 --> 01:16:00,400
only opens once for you for you to see
1937
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,920
and and i jumped maybe if i was 21 and
1938
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,920
really oh my god man you know they've
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sold out but i don't think they've sold
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out i mean rob's a decent person he's
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not living in some palace he's not
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driving some
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some rolls royce i mean this is a guy
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with a family to
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to provide for and he's trying to do a
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you know decent thing and i think
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it was really important for them to kind
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of get a proper closure
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around this you know we can't live on
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some utopian fantasy
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about what we expect scenes and people
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to be like
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we've got to be realistic we're all
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human beings and like i said i'm really
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supportive of it and
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i wouldn't tell those people to shut up
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but i just say get a bit of perspective
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on it you know
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develop a bit of maturity around what
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you're thinking and saying and then
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maybe
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people might take you your comments a
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bit more seriously
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we swear allegiance to none be not
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become you know
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we haven't really got no allegiance to
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anybody except ourselves in the end and
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that
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and that's the truth at the end of the
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day there's a universal truth in it you
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know however close you are with your
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friends when you
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you know you're born alone and you die
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alone you have to be
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you have to be an ally to yourself in
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the end and that
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and that's certainly true for me because
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i think maybe i'm getting a bit of my
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own ass about all this but
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i don't know how people perceive us or
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how they possibly think that we are or
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what they think
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that we feel or that with dark satanic
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people or whatever you know i don't know
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how i'm thought
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you know so i can't it's kind of hard
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for me to answer
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these things you know maybe in a way
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that people understand honestly
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i've done some weird [ __ ] we've done
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good things for bad reasons and bad
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things for good reasons we will help you
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know
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life's tough get through it but i think
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amiibos definitely kept me going in the
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time i was just [ __ ] despair and
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giving up all together you know
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you've got to have something to to live
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for
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if you look at the artwork from amoebic
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stuff it's you know it's just
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chock-a-block with these
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swords and axes and spears and all these
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weird sort of images which are
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just underneath the surface and when i
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arrived on sky i
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met up with this guy who was really into
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his mythology and and
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other sort of esoteric um lines of
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inquiry as well
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he really encouraged me to to think
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about
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what i what i fancy doing which was i
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thought you know i'd love to be able to
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make a sword
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uh at that time there was no internet or
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anything like that so
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i um i looked for information for
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library books and things like that that
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could um
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show me how to do this uh it was very
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very difficult to find but eventually
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got got some books
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and started up making a little forge
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just for fun really and um
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uh practice and practice and practice
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and now you know what i do
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is recognize worldwide for the the basic
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the the quality of the work that i do
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but it's taking quite a long time it's
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been
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a really a really interesting thing to
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be doing but something that i never had
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a doubt to do at all it's just
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a logical extension really of what i was
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doing back then i mean
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people aren't surprised by it it's the
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weirdest thing i had an email from
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somebody the other day
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you know rob miller went on from being a
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uh
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as a singer in the band of ebik's on to
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to to making swords on the isle of skye
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of course he did you know
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foreign
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together
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is
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[Applause]
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oh
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is
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yes
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this is
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ah
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you
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