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{\an8}Maybe there's been a lot happening
in the world recently,
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{\an8}but hands up who knew we had
a big swing band?
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{\an8}Anna? Sorry, Anna?
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{\an8}Anna.
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{\an8}- She's asking flat-out if we're axing it.
- Right, yes.
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{\an8}- This thing with the big swing band.
- Yes, exactly.
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{\an8}We are starting to take
incoming on it already.
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{\an8}- Right, incoming.
- Are we axing it?
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{\an8}- Not unless--
- 'Cause also--
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{\an8}God, there's an "also"?
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{\an8}This is about identifying
what we do most of best
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{\an8}and finding fewer ways
of doing more of it less.
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{\an8}- That's what you want me to say?
- Yes, exactly.
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{\an8}I'm not going to be responsible
for axing four major BBC orchestras.
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{\an8}I don't see that as my role
as Head of Values.
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{\an8}Yes, no, fabulous, Ian, very clear.
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{\an8}All these rumours around closure,
it's got to be really upsetting
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{\an8}for you and for everyone, really.
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{\an8}Hey, that's life, I guess.
That's show business.
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{\an8}If you've got any bright ideas,
apart from asking the driver
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{\an8}to drive us to St Pancras and disappearing
to the continent for a while.
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{\an8}You do know that the minister himself
is a keen trombonist?
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{\an8}A trombonist?
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{\an8}- Are you OK, Anna?
- Were you not aware of that?
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{\an8}Anna, are you all right?
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{\an8}- Forgive me, Fiona, is this a joke?
- If it's a joke,
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{\an8}- it's not a very funny one, is it?
- No.
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{\an8}She's just, you know...
I think maybe we'd better stop.
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Standby 2.
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Mix through, cue on 2.
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The BBC's announced the appointment
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of the ex-Head of Olympic Delivery,
Ian Fletcher,
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as its new Head of Values.
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Time now for the shipping forecast.
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Superimpose.
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You're kidding.
You are kidding me.
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It's 11:15
at New Broadcasting House,
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and, already, a special damage limitation
meeting is in full swing.
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No, it was a temporary software issue
and we deeply regret
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any offense that may have been caused
to Jools himself
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or to the Jewish community.
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Following an item on this morning's
BBC Breakfast about plans
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to close the BBC Big Swing Band,
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a spontaneous Twitter campaign
to boycott the BBC,
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led by Jools Holland,
is attracting growing support.
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But in the last few minutes,
there's been a new development.
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Of all the random words in the dictionary,
we find the one
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with 2,000 years of pain attached to it.
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Due to the intelligence of the BBC's
Syncopaticaption Live subtitling software,
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the much-loved BBC star has been
subtitled briefly on the BBC news channel
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as "Jews Holland."
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A slow car crash
where you've designed the car
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and failed to notice the fucking ditch
you've now driven it into.
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So in my view, guys, we are looking
at emergency measures here.
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- Brilliant.
- Brilliant.
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- Brilliant.
- Not being dramatic or anything,
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but it is actually biblical
in the press office right now.
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Listen, I mean, you guys know how to
handle this, this really isn't my area...
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- Yeah, bollocks.
- But for what it's worth,
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My guess is that Tony will be
a lot less blotchy around the eyes
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once we've got some policy statement
out there for the lunchtime news.
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- The lunchtime news?
- Right, OK.
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- Let me explain how this works, OK?
- Brilliant.
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- Yes, 'cause--
- Sorry, Tracey, if I can--
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- Sorry, Neil, I'm just agreeing with you.
- Yeah, thanks.
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There's no such thing
as the lunchtime news anymore.
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- It's not "Listen with Bloody Mother."
- Brilliant.
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What it is now, it's basically one long
avalanche of shit happening in real-time.
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- Exactly, yes. Yes.
- With 24-hour live shoveling.
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Yes, no, very good.
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No, I totally hear you.
No, it's still me. Shut up.
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Oh, bloody great.
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No, forget Jools,
go through Felicia in his office.
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Don't talk to Daniel, he's a show pony,
all moisturizer and gel.
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Talk to Felicia. She's Spanish, whatever.
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Swedish, yeah. We can totally impact her.
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Perhaps inevitably
in the circumstances,
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BBC brand consultant Siobhan Sharpe
has arrived from Fun Media
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to bring her expertise
literally to the table.
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- So we talked to Jools's people.
- Brilliant.
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And I've got three words for you:
"not enough flowers in the world."
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- What?
- All right.
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- Brilliant.
- Here we go.
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So in through the nose and out
through the mouth on the count of four.
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- Yes, exactly.
- That's great.
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- The fact is, I'm fine now.
- Right, good. Feeling OK.
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Meanwhile, across town,
Director of Better, Anna Rampton,
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is having a lie-down in an ambulance.
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- The fact is, we need to go now.
- OK.
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- Well.
- Your pulse is certainly OK.
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- Blood pressure's fine.
- Yes, exactly.
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- It's up to you, really.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
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- We can take you to the hospital.
- No.
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- That service we provide.
- No, I don't want that.
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- Are you sure, Anna?
- Yes.
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- 'Cause, I mean...
- Yes, no, the fact is, I'll be fine now.
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This happened to you before, Anna?
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- The fact is, can you take us to the BBC?
- No.
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- The BBC?
- Yes.
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I'm not sure we're allowed to, Anna.
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- Yes, you are. It's in Regent Street.
- No, it's fine.
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If you're absolutely sure, Anna.
We can jump in another cab.
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They're all over the place.
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I'm happy for you to do that
if you're happy.
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- Yes. Yes.
- But take it easy for a while, OK?
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- Give yourself an easy day.
- Yes, exactly.
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- I might try that as well.
- Ian will look after you, won't you, Ian?
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- Yes.
- Yes.
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I mean, I, yes. Of course.
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You're fine, and I'm happy with that,
but these things happen for reasons.
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- You might have a think about that, OK?
- Hmm.
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- Yes, well, I mean, thank you.
- Pleasure.
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- You've been really--
- Yes.
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Anytime.
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It's up to you, but you can probably
let go of his hand now, if you want.
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- Yes, I think--
- Yes, exactly.
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OK, good.
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Back at New Broadcasting House,
Will Humphries
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is still very much on station
in reception,
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in his mission to bag a passing celebrity
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for the BBC Me YouTube
Super Selfie launch campaign.
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- Yeah, hi, yeah.
- Hi.
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- Yeah, so I'm Will.
- Right.
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Yeah, I love the sky.
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- Right.
- I used to have a telescope.
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- OK.
- Yeah, not like a real one.
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- I'm sorry, I'm going to go.
- OK, cool.
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- Sorry.
- Yeah, no worries, yeah, cool.
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So, what we've realized is,
and I've just double-checked this,
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this is actually the first time his name
has come up since 2.0 went live,
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so, technically, the system is working
blind here, it's generating a new word
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which it's never heard before,
so if you think about it,
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it's actually
a pretty interesting result.
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I have thought about it,
and "Jews Holland" is not a result.
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{\an8}Meanwhile, current head
of News and Current Affairs, Neil Reid,
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has popped down to touch base
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with the BBC's chief technical services
choreographer, Adam Brady.
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I'm sorry, I've had enough.
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If we can't go back
to the slightly less useless system,
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then I'm afraid we're just gonna have to
cut our losses for the moment anyway
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before something truly awful happens
and switch it off.
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- Switch it off.
- Yeah, I'm sorry.
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- Yeah, very good.
- What?
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Following an upgrade
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of the BBC's cutting-edge Syncopatico
in-house operating system,
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its Syncopaticaption
intelligent live subtitling software
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is still doggedly refusing
either to learn from its mistakes
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{\an8}or to give up and switch itself off.
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I'm not technical, but would it help if
I put a hammer through this crap in here?
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- Yeah.
- I'm including you in that.
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So, one thing that's really impressive
about 2.0...
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- Impressive?
- is that once it's up and running,
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it's pretty much bomb proof.
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- What does that mean?
- You can literally pull the plug out,
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and it will keep going.
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I don't believe this.
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The thing with fail-safe protocols,
they're brilliant, don't get me wrong,
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they're pretty close to perfect
as long as everything works fine...
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- Yeah.
- but the second something goes wrong,
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which technically can't actually happen,
by the way,
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you kind of miss the "off" button,
you know what I mean?
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I know.
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I mean, who'd have thought?
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By 11:30, Ian and Anna
have managed to make their way back
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to New Broadcasting House.
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They may already be late for the big
swing band damage limitation meeting,
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but at least they've made it without
any further medical emergencies.
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- After you.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
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- Before we go in, the fact is, I'm fine.
- Right. Are you? Really?
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- The fact is, none of this happened.
- Didn't it?
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- No.
- OK, well, that must be a relief.
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Yes, exactly, yes.
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- Also, the fact is--
- Yes, Will, hi.
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- Yeah, hey.
- The fact is, I'm going in now.
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- Right.
- I'll see you up there.
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See you in there, yes. Right.
Uh... hi.
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Yeah, hey, how are you?
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Actually, things are a bit busy
this morning since you asked.
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- Yeah.
- A lot of stuff happening today.
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I know, yeah, me too.
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So I'm doing, like, this thing for BBC Me.
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- Oh, right?
- Yeah, it's for Izzy.
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- Right, OK.
- I was wondering if you could do a "me."
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- Do a you?
- Cool, yes, so, what it is...
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- Will...
- Hang on.
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- This sounds really interesting.
- I know.
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- But I really have got to go.
- OK.
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- Find me later when I've got more time.
- OK, cool.
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- But in the meantime, you know, good luck.
- Yeah, no worries, yeah, cool.
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Sir Bob Geldof.
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Sir Bob Geldof, yeah.
Sir Van Morrison.
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- Sir Tom Jones.
- Yep. Sir Bono.
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- Sir Bono?
- Sir Bono, yeah.
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- We love Sir Bono.
- No, I'm sorry, Siobhan.
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Brilliant.
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By 11:45, the Jools Holland
Twitter campaign to boycott the BBC
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against the termination
of the BBC Big Swing Band,
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together with its much-loved
veteran band leader, Ray Fredericks,
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is attracting a growing number
of prominent musical Knight Commanders
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of the Order of Sir Paul McCartney.
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- Sir Paul McCartney.
- Paul McCartney, yeah.
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- Cor.
- Sir Mick Jagger.
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- Sir will.i.am.
- Yeah.
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- Right, OK.
- Brilliant.
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I'm sorry, guys,
this is not actually helping, OK?
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- Sir Boy George.
- Sir Boy George, yeah.
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- It's just a list of names.
- Totally is.
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- Brilliant.
- OK.
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- Tapper family from Gogglebox.
- Yep.
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It's a long list of names, but, I'm sorry,
reading them one by one isn't gonna help.
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- Ah, brilliant, thank God.
- Yes, hi.
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- Apologies.
- The Westminster Two.
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- Sorry we're late.
- No, no, come and join us.
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- How was it?
- Yes, it's been interesting, hasn't it?
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- Yes, exactly, yes.
- There's a lot to discuss,
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but Ian's first job, before they get on
to the main damage of the morning,
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is to bring the meeting
briefly up to speed
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with how things went at the crucial
first charter renewal meeting
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at the Department of Culture, Media,
and also Sport.
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- A trombonist?
- Yes.
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- Yes, exactly.
- Gor, no.
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- Blimey.
- Which, let's face it,
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is probably not the best news
in the context of the morning.
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- Bummer.
- Listen, honestly, bad luck.
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In the meantime, we've been keeping
track of other developments, so...
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- Yes.
- Brilliant.
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- Brilliant.
- I think we're pretty much up to--
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Here's the thing, guys.
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- Louisiana's burning here, guys, OK?
- Brilliant.
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- Louisiana's burning?
- Is that actually right?
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- No, it is not.
- Got to break out the water hose.
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- Yes, no, very good.
- First, let's not be negative.
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- Brilliant.
- Right.
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- Yes.
- Not being negative, Ian, but why not?
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- It seems to me--
- As of now, what you guys did here
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is you, like, totally fumbled the ball,
you dropped it,
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and you totally gave it to, like, Tappers
from Gogglebox and Sir Boy George.
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- Whatever.
- OK, no.
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- So--
- No, I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry, Siobhan,
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but not everyone
is a Knight of the Realm, OK?
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I've got nothing against him personally,
but the truth is Boy George is not a sir.
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- Whatever.
- He's just a boy.
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I'll totally give you that.
My point is,
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you don't get narrative buyback soon,
you'll get narrative blowback instead.
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- Narrative blowback?
- Like #CantSeeForShit
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- Right, that's it.
- Yes, no, very clear.
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OK, OK. OK, I'll just do it.
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With the big swing band crisis
unfolding live and in real-time,
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this is a busy morning
for the BBC's Head of News.
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Sorry, hang on a minute there, Sarah. Yeah.
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- Yeah, hi.
- So?
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- I'm doing this thing for BBC Me.
- OK.
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- It's for Izzy Gould, so if you can just--
- Do I have to?
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- No.
- OK, great.
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- OK, cool.
- Yeah, so...
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No, I get it. The thing
about the statement of policy
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is that, as far as I'm aware,
we don't actually have one.
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OK, so #JeSuisBigBand
is trending worldwide right now.
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- Brilliant.
- Yes.
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- So this thing has gone viro-nuclear.
- Yes, thank you, Siobhan.
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Yes, thank you, Siobhan.
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- Brilliant.
- Brilliant.
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By 12:15, the damage limitation
challenge is growing by the minute,
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with over 4,000 people having now
joined the conversation on Twitter
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at #JeSuisBigSwingBand
#BoycottBBC.
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- Sorry.
- No, no, Faiza.
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- Just catching up.
- Yes, no, join us.
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- Yes, exactly.
- Honestly, what a car crash.
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Yes, exactly, yes.
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But luckily, Faiza Raja, for
the moment the BBC's Head of Diversity,
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pending that role's reimaginement
going forward
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along with Head of Inclusivity
to create a single new role
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of Head of Empowerment,
has arrived to help take the strain.
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I've left messages for Donna Fredericks
and her father and asked them to call.
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- Right.
- Brilliant.
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- They've turned their phones off. Yes.
- I'm not surprised.
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- Who can blame them?
- Kanye West.
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- Yep.
- I'm sorry this didn't come through me.
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- I don't know how that happened.
- Yes, well, let's not--
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- This is a diversity issue--
- Well--
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But no, beyond that, surely
it's about the empowerment of voices
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from as diverse a range of backgrounds
as we can think of.
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- Brilliant.
- And how we could have got this
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so badly wrong, it's beyond me.
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Yes, exactly, yes.
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- Honestly, it's so much bad luck, Lucy.
- What?
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- Sir Ian McKellen.
- Given the situation,
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let's not waste time on the details
of how we got here, shall we?
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- Brilliant.
- Jacob Zuma.
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- Cool.
- Yeah, right, OK.
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- Jacob Zuma?
- Fabulous.
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- Professor Green.
- Professor Green, yeah.
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- Right, so, OK.
- Thank God, the man of the news.
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So, I've spoken to Sarah Cartwright.
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- Sarah...?
- Sarah Cartwright.
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- Yeah.
- Sarah Cartwright.
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- Yes, no, of course.
- Editor, News at One. Yeah.
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So they've cleared a live slot at 1:15.
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- Right.
- Hurrah.
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- 1:15.
- Talking about a statement of policy.
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- Right.
- Oh, bloody hell.
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They've asked Tony, but he's Skyping
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- with Jools Holland at one o'clock.
- Cool.
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- Right.
- Brilliant.
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- And they daren't move that.
- Nah.
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But according to Sarah,
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Tony's really keen that this happens
in the spirit of, you know, openness.
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- Right, yes.
- I bet he is.
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Really keen. Sarah said
his voice sounded a bit funny.
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- Funny?
- She said it was higher than normal.
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- Yes.
- Didn't have time to--
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- Yes, no, that can happen.
- No, OK.
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- Anyway, he's suggesting Anna.
- All right.
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- Anna?
- As Director of Better, yeah.
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Fabulous.
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You OK with that, Anna?
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- Yes, I guess, exactly, no, yes.
- Cool.
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Right. So, not to be panicking
or anything, guys,
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but just to clarify here,
am I right in thinking
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the situation is that we have no idea
what Anna's going to be saying
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on News at One,
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and we have 59 minutes between now
and when she's going to say it?
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- Correct.
- Yes, right, I thought so.
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- Right.
- Fifty-eight.
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- I have 58, yeah.
- OK. Goody good.
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- OK, so--
- OK, 58 minutes here, guys.
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- Looking at a hard stop here.
- First of all, let's stay calm, shall we.
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- Sure.
- Yes, very good.
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Fifty-eight minutes is a lot longer
than you think.
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- Is it? Great.
- Yes.
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I don't know about the rest of you guys,
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but can I suggest
a short comfort break first?
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- Right?
- Brilliant.
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- Yes. Yes.
- Really?
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I'm not being funny,
but I think that would help.
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- Yes, exactly.
- Right, well, if--
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- Yes, exactly, yes.
- OK, comfort break, guys.
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- All rightie.
- Cool.
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- Back in five at the very...
- Back in five.
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- Yes.
- We come back, weapon up here,
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- and solution the ass off this thing.
- OK, good.
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- Hurrah.
- Hurrah.
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Hurrah.
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- Oh, Lucy, hi.
- Yes, hi.
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- You haven't seen Anna, have you?
- Anna? No.
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- Afraid I hadn't, sorry.
- No, that's OK.
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- Just wondered where she was.
- Yes, I don't know.
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- Better get back in there.
- Yes. You OK?
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Me? Yes. Yes, no. Yes, no, I'm fine.
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'Cause you really mustn't let
this stuff get to you.
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- It's just good to get out for a bit.
- Right. For what it's worth--
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Anna?
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- Yes. Yes, hi.
- You OK?
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Uh, yes, I'm fine. The fact is...
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- Right.
- God.
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OK, uh...
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Right.
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Yeah, hi, yeah. So could...
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Hello, Will.
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- Oh, yeah, hey, yeah.
- So, how's it going?
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Meanwhile, back down in reception,
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like it or not, it's starting to look
as if Will Humphries
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might have at last run into someone
willing to take part
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in the BBC Me Super Selfie campaign.
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- Ready?
- Yeah, cool.
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- Me.
- Cool.
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- Is it OK, Will?
- Yeah, no.
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- Is it really, though?
- Yeah, no, cool, yeah.
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Me.
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I don't think that's very good.
Can I have another go?
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OK.
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Me-- Actually, I don't think the lighting
is doing us any favours.
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- OK.
- Do you know what I mean, though.
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Can we go outside
into natural light, Will?
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- It's OK with you?
- No worries.
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- What am I like?
- Yeah, I don't know.
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Not having much luck today,
are you, Anna?
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- The fact is, I'm fine.
- Thirty-two minutes, guys.
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Yes, OK, thank you, Siobhan.
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They're gonna take you to the hospital,
Anna, just to be on the safe side.
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- Yes, exactly, yes.
- Now, honestly, bad luck.
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You can take that jacket off,
I don't need it.
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- We're going on a train to the continent.
- Right, uh...
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- Blimey.
- Yeah, I think that's just...
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On the journey to her current level
of executive seniority,
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Anna Rampton may have broken through
just about every glass ceiling
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put in front of her by the BBC,
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but she's having less luck
with some of its glass walls.
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Yeah, you're not listening, Sarah.
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In the meantime, the live interview
about the BBC Big Swing Band
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on the one o'clock news
isn't getting any less live
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or any further away.
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"A," we don't know what
she's going to be saying,
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And "B," she's not going to be saying it
at all at this rate.
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- We're gonna take you to the hospital.
- Yes, exactly.
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You had a bump to your head.
We'd like to take you for an X-ray.
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- Yes.
- Do you understand what I'm saying, Anna?
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Yes, exactly, yes.
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- Take that shirt off, you don't need it.
- Yes...
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- We're going in the train to a continent.
- Christ.
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- I'm not quite sure what that--
- Just relax, Anna.
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00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,640
- Yes, exactly.
- Yeah, relax.
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Come with us.
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You're not going on any train.
You hit your head, you're talking garbage.
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- How do you feel about standing up, Anna?
- Yes. Yes, exactly.
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- Or would you like to go in the chair?
- Yes. No, I don't want that.
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00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,439
Oh, well done.
408
00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,040
I'm not being funny,
but should someone go with her?
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- Yes, I think--
- Ah, right.
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00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,800
- Good idea.
- No way.
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00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,439
- It's a tricky one, isn't it?
- One dead man down already here, guys.
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She's not dead, Siobhan.
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00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,160
- Is there someone you want us to contact?
- Yes, exactly.
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00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,800
- A mobile number or email address?
- Yes.
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00:17:04,879 --> 00:17:06,839
- Take that skirt off, I won't need it.
- Right.
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00:17:06,919 --> 00:17:08,680
- We're going up the train to incontinence.
- Right.
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00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,680
- Do you want to go with her, Faiza?
- Me?
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00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,560
- It feels like somebody should.
- I agree.
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00:17:12,639 --> 00:17:14,399
- And I don't know Anna that well.
- Uh....
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OK, cool, whatever.
The rest of us got 30 minutes
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to figure a way off of this volcano
before it blows.
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- Right, yes.
- Yes, thank you, Siobhan.
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00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:24,560
- Um... Anna?
- Yes.
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- It's Faiza. Head of Diversity.
- Yes, exactly.
425
00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,480
Somebody's had an accident.
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00:17:39,159 --> 00:17:41,960
The BBC itself has declined
to comment so far this morning,
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but coming up after the business news
at 1:15,
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{\an8}we'll be talking to the BBC's
so-called "Head of Values,"
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Ian Fletcher, and asking him
for his reaction to the affair.
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- Right, OK.
- Brilliant.
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00:17:51,639 --> 00:17:52,480
Yeah, bad luck.
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I'm not gonna ask how that happened
because we haven't got the time.
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00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,080
Yes, no, brilliant.
Captain Renewal. Hurrah.
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With Anna now out
of the equation for the live interview
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about the Big Swing Band crisis
on News at One,
436
00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,080
and with Ian having stepped into her shoes
without even trying to,
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the only question left is, what it is
that he's going to be saying in them
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in exactly 26 minutes' time.
439
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,879
- OK, 26 minutes here, guys.
- Yes, thank you, Siobhan.
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- Twenty-six, yeah.
- Yeah, all right.
441
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- Twenty-six.
- I mean, the big--
442
00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,080
Sorry, Ian.
Where has the other one gone?
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- The...
- What's happened to Jerry?
444
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- Yes.
- Oh, Ben.
445
00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,639
- Yeah, OK, what's happened to Ben?
- Yes.
446
00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,320
- I don't mind, it's just doing my head in.
- Yes, no, brilliant, Neil.
447
00:18:29,399 --> 00:18:31,679
- Are you doing both of you?
- Ben's got his interview.
448
00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,280
- Oh, right, OK.
- Yeah.
449
00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:34,639
- Right. Well...
- Brilliant.
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- Good luck, everybody.
- Shall we--
451
00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,480
- Yes, no, brilliant.
- Hurrah.
452
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,120
Yes, no, so the big positive
about not having enough time
453
00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,360
is it concentrates the mind.
454
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,840
- Yes, right.
- Fabulous.
455
00:18:42,919 --> 00:18:45,399
- As long as we're clear what our line is.
- Brilliant.
456
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,720
- Cool.
- Yes, right.
457
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,760
Yes, no, very good.
458
00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,800
Actually, it's really simple, isn't it?
459
00:18:50,879 --> 00:18:51,879
- Is it?
- Hurrah.
460
00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,240
This whole thing with...
461
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:54,679
Sorry.
462
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,879
- No, no.
- Yes, no, come and join us, Ben.
463
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,320
- Brilliant.
- Welcome back.
464
00:18:58,399 --> 00:19:00,639
- Yeah, welcome back.
- How did it go, Ben?
465
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:01,720
- Brilliant.
- Oh, good.
466
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:02,879
- Yep.
- Right, well...
467
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:03,960
Hurrah.
468
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,720
- So anyway, Neil.
- Yes, yes, so, this whole...
469
00:19:08,919 --> 00:19:10,120
- Right.
- Sorry.
470
00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,679
- No, no, that's.
- Good luck, Jerry.
471
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,639
- Yes.
- Brilliant.
472
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,760
- Yeah, knock 'em dead.
- Hurrah.
473
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,120
- Right, so any other traffic...
- Yes, no, brilliant, I think that's it.
474
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,600
- OK.
- We're good to go.
475
00:19:22,679 --> 00:19:24,919
- Brilliant.
- This whole thing with the band,
476
00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,840
- why don't we say we're not doing it?
- Right.
477
00:19:26,919 --> 00:19:28,200
- Ah.
- Right, OK.
478
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,120
- Interesting.
- So we're not closing down the band?
479
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,120
- Yeah.
- Cool.
480
00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,240
- Can we actually say that?
- No, I'm totally good with that.
481
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,159
No, I'm sorry, Siobhan, I'm sorry, guys,
I'm not being negative,
482
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,639
- but it is actually too late for that.
- Well...
483
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,159
I've basically spent the last two days
confirming that we are doing it
484
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,879
- to everybody who's asked.
- Right.
485
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,480
OK, so we changed our minds.
Sod it.
486
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,520
- I'm not sure how that would look.
- Exactly, Ian, I agree.
487
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,399
- Yes.
- In that case, it's equally simple:
488
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,560
we're fucked.
489
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,480
- Hi.
- Oh, hi.
490
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,440
Meanwhile,
elsewhere in the building,
491
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,919
people like development executives
Izzy Gould and Jack Patterson
492
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,960
seem to be going about
their business as usual,
493
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,639
almost as if it was a normal day.
494
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,679
Oh, God, Will.
495
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:19,840
Hi.
496
00:20:19,919 --> 00:20:20,960
Yeah, hey, yeah.
497
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,200
In much the same spirit,
498
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,720
Will Humphries is still
at his post in reception,
499
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,679
in the hope of a sudden
lunchtime surge of celebrity.
500
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,840
- I didn't mean for you to stay all day.
- Cool, no worries, I don't mind.
501
00:20:30,919 --> 00:20:32,240
Oh, so you're... it's you.
502
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,879
- What? No, what?
- You're like Mister Super Me.
503
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,159
- Yeah, no.
- Jack.
504
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,320
'Cause you're like a team now.
It's a Humphries-Gould production.
505
00:20:39,399 --> 00:20:40,560
Yeah, no, I don't know.
506
00:20:41,159 --> 00:20:43,000
- So go on, then. Who've you got?
- Yeah.
507
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,000
- Jack.
- Well, it's no secret, is it?
508
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,440
- Yeah.
- It's not fair on Will.
509
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,440
- I'm just curious to know.
- 'Cause I did get some people.
510
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,520
Why did... You did?
511
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,879
- Yeah, I did, yeah.
- There you go. Go on, hit me.
512
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,760
- Yeah. What?
- Will, are you sure about this?
513
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,240
- Yeah, no worries.
- 'Cause we don't have to do this now.
514
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,200
OK, cool.
515
00:21:00,639 --> 00:21:02,520
- Me.
- Me.
516
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,080
Me. Is that...
517
00:21:04,159 --> 00:21:05,159
Me.
518
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,520
- Me.
- Me.
519
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,080
- Me.
- Me.
520
00:21:09,159 --> 00:21:10,159
Me.
521
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,639
Me.
522
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,720
Me.
523
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,040
- Right.
- Yeah. OK.
524
00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:18,320
'Cause at the moment,
except for this one guy,
525
00:21:18,399 --> 00:21:20,120
it's mostly like people I actually know.
526
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,280
- Yes. Can we see that again, Will?
- Yeah.
527
00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:23,560
No worries, yeah, cool.
528
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,639
- Me.
- Me.
529
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,760
- Me. Is that...
- Me.
530
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,120
- Me.
- Me.
531
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,639
- Me.
- Me.
532
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,040
- Me.
- Me.
533
00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:36,040
Me.
534
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,240
- Right.
- Will.
535
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,560
- Fuck.
- 'Cause with the people I don't know,
536
00:21:40,639 --> 00:21:42,879
apart from that one guy,
I asked and they were like "no."
537
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,280
- Yeah.
- This one woman was gonna call the police.
538
00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:47,679
- Yeah.
- Will, can... the guy who said yes.
539
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,480
Yeah, I know, yeah, crap.
He just came in, like,
540
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,960
people pointing at him, so I asked him,
but I didn't actually know who he is.
541
00:21:55,879 --> 00:21:56,840
Me.
542
00:22:00,639 --> 00:22:02,679
- OK, 13 minutes, guys.
- Yes.
543
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,560
Platform's totally burning here.
544
00:22:04,639 --> 00:22:06,840
OK, let's say we've got ten minutes
to do this.
545
00:22:06,919 --> 00:22:08,280
- Ten.
- In round figures, yes,
546
00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:09,879
- to give Siobhan three minutes off.
- Right.
547
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,040
- OK, sure.
- Brilliant.
548
00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:15,760
Meanwhile, back upstairs, there are
increasingly few surviving minutes left
549
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,080
until Ian opens his mouth
550
00:22:17,159 --> 00:22:19,720
to make a key policy statement
live on News at One
551
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,679
and finally gets to discover
what's going to come out of it.
552
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,040
- I mean, Siobhan.
- Sure.
553
00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:25,480
- Right.
- Really?
554
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,439
In your world,
this kind of thing is pretty...
555
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,960
- No, sure, OK.
- This stuff happens all the time.
556
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,560
Yeah, no, sure, OK.
So here's the thing with this, OK.
557
00:22:33,639 --> 00:22:35,320
- Here's what it is.
- Right.
558
00:22:35,399 --> 00:22:37,520
OK, um, so here's the thing with this.
559
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,280
- Siobhan.
- This is what it is with this.
560
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:41,040
Here's what... the thing is--
561
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,320
I'm sorry, Siobhan, but I am
going to interrupt you here.
562
00:22:43,399 --> 00:22:44,600
- Sure.
- Yes, please.
563
00:22:44,679 --> 00:22:46,240
- Can I ask a question, guys?
- Yes.
564
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,240
- Sure.
- Yes, no, of course, Tracey, of course.
565
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,919
I'm not being negative or anything
but I need to say this.
566
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,120
We've got eight minutes left here.
567
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,040
What are we actually going to do
if we run out of time?
568
00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:56,919
- Right.
- Sure.
569
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,639
- Brilliant.
- We're not going to run out of time.
570
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,120
- OK, fine.
- Hurrah.
571
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,360
- But what do we do if we do?
- Sure.
572
00:23:02,439 --> 00:23:04,919
- Well...
- So, guys, what you do here
573
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,240
is we totally focus on plan B.
574
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,720
- I'm sorry? Plan B?
- Right.
575
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,360
You don't prioritize plan B now,
you're super dead here.
576
00:23:11,439 --> 00:23:14,800
- We haven't got a plan A, you stupid...
- Exactly. That's why you need a plan B.
577
00:23:14,879 --> 00:23:15,879
- What?
- Duh.
578
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,080
- We've got nearly eight minutes left.
- Right.
579
00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:19,639
- Seven. Seven, yeah.
- Seven?
580
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,800
Yes, nearly eight. We're not writing
a speech, we've got plenty of time.
581
00:23:22,879 --> 00:23:24,399
- Brilliant.
- All I need is a basic
582
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,919
or even a vague sense
of where I'm supposed to...
583
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,159
- Sorry, guys.
- Oh, right.
584
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,679
- You all set, Ian?
- Oh, well...
585
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,679
- Cool, we should probably get down there.
- Right, yes. OK.
586
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,040
In the end,
587
00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:38,080
after all the talk about
exactly how much time they've got left,
588
00:23:38,159 --> 00:23:41,320
the answer is that they haven't even
got enough left to address
589
00:23:41,399 --> 00:23:44,960
the question of what they're going to do
if they run out of it, but despite that,
590
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,120
what's clear is the extent to which,
now more than ever,
591
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,520
everyone is behind Ian.
592
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,080
- Are you OK with that?
- Yes, fine.
593
00:23:51,159 --> 00:23:53,280
No, we're not all bloody set.
594
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,200
I'm actively looking for sofas
to hide behind as we speak.
595
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,240
The live two-way interview
is to be conducted
596
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,960
with news presenter Sophie Raworth
live in the BBC news studio
597
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,840
and Ian equally live at a remote
interview station
598
00:24:04,919 --> 00:24:07,520
specially constructed somewhere else
in the same building.
599
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,399
Ideally, this would be fitted
down through.
600
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,960
- Whatever.
- But we haven't got time.
601
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,879
- It's fine, I'll hold that.
- You sure?
602
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,080
- No, he can totally hold that.
- OK, great.
603
00:24:15,159 --> 00:24:17,320
It'll be fine, Ian.
We all believe in you.
604
00:24:17,399 --> 00:24:20,399
And you always think of something
in the end because you always do.
605
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,840
I might just check in with Tony, Ian,
just to bring him up to speed.
606
00:24:24,919 --> 00:24:26,760
In a few years,
we'll be laughing at this.
607
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,040
- Yes.
- Alice, hi.
608
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:31,280
Yes, no, it's an interesting one.
609
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:33,120
Yes. Yes, really interesting.
610
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,600
- OK, I think we're good.
- Right.
611
00:24:34,679 --> 00:24:35,960
- OK, let's do this, guys.
- Siobhan.
612
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Storming the compound blind here.
Keep the chopper running.
613
00:24:38,399 --> 00:24:40,000
- Can you just be quiet, please?
- Yeah, shut up.
614
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,120
- No, sure.
- Fuck's sake.
615
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,800
Finally, as it was always
going to be eventually, it's time.
616
00:24:43,879 --> 00:24:46,639
- You all right?
- Yes. Some water might be...
617
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,000
- Hey! Can we get some water here, guys?
- All right, Siobhan.
618
00:24:50,679 --> 00:24:52,520
- Here, should I...
- Yeah, thank you.
619
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,919
- Can we have a level, please?
- Of course, yes, so, la-la-la.
620
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,320
OK, thanks, that's great, Ian.
621
00:24:57,399 --> 00:24:59,879
- Great, thanks.
- What are you going to say?
622
00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:01,919
- Well, you know, any ideas, gratefully...
- Yes.
623
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,439
Actually, I thought "la-la-la"
sounded pretty good.
624
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,800
- 'Cause this probably isn't--
- No, what?
625
00:25:06,879 --> 00:25:08,000
- OK, Ian.
- Yes.
626
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,360
OK, we're standing by.
627
00:25:09,439 --> 00:25:11,320
...campaign to boycott the BBC...
628
00:25:11,399 --> 00:25:12,760
We're standing by.
Everybody shut up.
629
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,919
- What?
- No, it's just, on my way in
630
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,919
in reception this morning, Will asked me--
631
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,600
I don't know, I wasn't really sure
what he was on about.
632
00:25:19,679 --> 00:25:22,520
But it's just with all this stuff now
about, you know, the future...
633
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,600
That's brilliant.
634
00:25:23,679 --> 00:25:25,360
- OK, what?
- Coming to you, Ian.
635
00:25:25,439 --> 00:25:27,360
- Coming to Ian, guys, going in.
- Shh!
636
00:25:27,439 --> 00:25:29,159
- I haven't even--
- Doesn't matter, don't care.
637
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,439
...its handling of the affair.
638
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,280
I'm joined now by the BBC's
so-called Head of Values, Ian Fletcher.
639
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:36,120
- Yes, hello.
- Thank you for joining us today.
640
00:25:36,199 --> 00:25:37,240
It's a pleasure, Sophie.
641
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,439
This whole issue with the Big Swing Band
and the BBC's handling of the affair,
642
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,199
this is basically another example
of a bad decision, really poorly executed
643
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,439
for the BBC, isn't it?
644
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,199
No, I have to say, Sophie,
645
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,679
I don't recognize that description
of where we are with this.
646
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,120
But we're talking about
an institution here,
647
00:25:53,199 --> 00:25:56,240
and a much-loved one at that,
a feature of national life
648
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,240
- for something like 80 years.
- Yes.
649
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,159
The only BBC orchestra led by a person
from a non-white background.
650
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,720
- Sure.
- You've got this wrong
651
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,600
on just about every single level,
haven't you?
652
00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:06,520
Yes, no, so, first of fall,
653
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,320
there's no point in not admitting that
these are tough choices, because they are.
654
00:26:09,399 --> 00:26:11,280
- Sure, OK.
- We're looking hard at all our options,
655
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:13,960
of course we are,
as part of our More of Less initiative.
656
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,040
But with respect, and we haven't got
a great deal of time here,
657
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:19,399
with respect,
these are generalities, aren't they?
658
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,760
- Yes--
- So with this decision specifically...
659
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,080
Yes, so with
the Big Swing Band in particular,
660
00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:28,520
this is a welcome opportunity to correct
some fairly serious misunderstandings
661
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,040
about what we're actually doing there.
662
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:33,520
So you're saying that the BBC is not
intending to axe the band?
663
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,000
Yes, so one option we've become
very excited about
664
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,600
and we've been working on the detail
of this for some time now,
665
00:26:38,679 --> 00:26:42,199
far from closing it, is, in fact,
the idea of reimagining it,
666
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,399
giving it its own creative
and commercial independence
667
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,000
and at the same time, giving it
its own dedicated space online
668
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,679
as part of the new BBC Me platform.
669
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,360
And making it, if you like, part of
an exciting and confident new future,
670
00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:58,399
rather than part of a nostalgic
and perhaps fading past.
671
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,760
- OK, well--
- In many ways, it's a pretty good example
672
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,720
of the sort of things we're doing
to create a BBC for the 21st century.
673
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,919
- Yes, Ian Fletcher.
- Taking the best of what we've achieved
674
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,960
in the past and redefining it to create
a BBC that's more efficient...
675
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,840
- Ian Fletcher...
- more relevant, more accessible
676
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:13,679
to even more people
than it's ever been before.
677
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,960
- Thank you for joining us.
- Pleasure always, Sophie.
678
00:27:16,879 --> 00:27:19,639
Ian Fletcher, the BBC's
Head of so-called Values,
679
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,399
joining us live from Central London there.
680
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,800
OK, and we're clear.
681
00:27:24,879 --> 00:27:26,439
- Right.
- OK, we're clear, guys.
682
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,919
- Thanks, Ian, great.
- Brilliant.
683
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I love this.
I so love it when this shit happens.
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Yes, so basically that's all good.
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