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{\an8}For me, what this says,
itās understated.
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{\an8}You know what Iām saying?
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{\an8}Obviously the danger is,
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{\an8}if heās actively excluded from appearing
on Match of the Day, that could read
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{\an8}- as an example of prejudice.
- Right.
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{\an8}And Ryan,
I know you were less than impressed
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{\an8}with some of Southamptonās defending.
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{\an8}Yeah, I was Gary. Yeah, I was.
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{\an8}Right.
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{\an8}I think weāre at a point now
where we can say with some confidence
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{\an8}that he is naturally crap.
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{\an8}Iāve had some times in this I have.
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{\an8}Too dull for Match of the Day?
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{\an8}I mean, what is that?
Itās not even a shape,
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{\an8}itās just like a pointy line.
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{\an8}Itās just something he's got in him,
I think.
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{\an8}- Right, yes.
- Right.
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{\an8}We are starting to take heavy incoming
on this in the press office already.
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{\an8}Well, Iām sorry,
but for me youāre not gonna win games
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{\an8}at this level with pointy lines, Gary.
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{\an8}āŖ
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Standby 2.
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Mix through, cue on 2.
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The BBCās announced
the appointment
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of the ex-head of Olympic Delivery
Ian Fletcher as its new Head of Values.
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Time now for the shipping forecast.
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Superimpose.
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Itās 8:30 in the morning
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on another in a series
of relentlessly big days
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for the BBC at its New Broadcasting
House central command centre
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in central London.
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Ah, yes! Hi, guys.
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- Yep.
- Yep.
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- Morning.
- Yeah, heya...
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No, no, no.
Donāt stand there, just come on in.
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Have a seat.
No listen, have two.
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Make yourself at home.
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This morning,
Head of Strategic Governance,
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Simon Harwood, has arrived
to find people already waiting to see him.
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Itās very much the way things are gonna
be from now on,
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and I donāt know about you,
but these days Iām just grateful
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to have a bike to ride
and some legs to ride it with.
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As part of the BBCs
major new More Of Less initiative,
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junior executives Ben and Jerry
have discovered
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that theyāre going to be given the
opportunity to apply for their own jobs.
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The total of which has been
revised downwards
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going forward from the current figure
of two to a new total of one.
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I mean, youāre gonna
know how youāll wanna feel about this
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and Iāve no idea how these things work,
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but I donāt know,
for what itās worth, um...
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maybe if you were to think
of yourselves as either Ben or Jerry
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instead of Ben and Jerry going forward.
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- Yep.
- Uh-huh.
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I mean, I dunno, does that help?
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Okay, but itās, like, what you
guys have got to realize is...
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No, Iām sorry, Siobhan.
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Okay, itās, like, no one has, like,
agenda anymore.
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- What?
- I mean thatās just, like,
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- what even is that? Just get over it.
- Brilliant.
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By 9 oāclock the day's damage
limitation meeting is well under way.
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Wait a moment. Whereās it gone?
I had it a moment ago...
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Uh... Right, okay, um,
"Just iPlayered Ryan Chelford on MOTD.
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OMG fabulous,
Claudia Winkleman with stubble.
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Keep it fluid.
#FootballSexy, #LGBTFuture."
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- Right.
- Cool.
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So thatās a
new one then is it, Lucy?
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I haven't seen that one.
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- David Walliams.
- Oh, right.
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- David Walliams.
- David Walliams, yeah.
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Yes, that makes sense.
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Itās always a packed program,
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but top of the agenda
by some way this morning
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is the issue
of ex-Premier League footballer
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and would be Match of the Day pundit,
Ryan Chelford.
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Okay right, here we go.
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"WTF BBC,
I thought Robbie Savage was crap,
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- but this guyās in a league of his own."
- Right.
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"Doesnāt matter what he wears,
heās still gonna be crap."
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- Okay.
- "MOTDās shit anyway."
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- Yes, so...
- Brilliant.
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And then droopy face.
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Yes, well.
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Yes, and just out of interest,
who is that, Tracy?
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Thatās actually Gary Lineker.
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- Oh, okay.
- Yes.
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- Right.
- Gary Lineker, yep.
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Interesting.
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- Gary Lineker.
- Gary Lineker, yep.
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Since his trial appearance as
a pundit on a midweek Match of the Day
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FA Cup third round highlights package,
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reaction on social media
has been almost universally divided.
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No, I mean, listen, you guysāll
know how you wanna handle this
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and who knows quite which
way Tony swings, football wise...
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- No.
- But for what itās worth,
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I did snatch a quick
macchiato moment with him this morning.
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- Oh, right?
- Yeah, heās just back from
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a mindfulness weekend in Somerset,
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which was apparently really
rather wonderful.
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- Right.
- Oh...
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No, but for what itās worth,
his thought on this,
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what with charter renewal and so forth,
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is that it might be rather smart to get
this whole thing sorted
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- before the Fiona Craig visit next week.
- Well, yes.
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- Yes, because...
- Yes, exactly.
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Next week the very
senior civil servant with responsibility
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for charter renewal negotiations
from the Department of Culture, Media,
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and for some reason, also Sport,
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is due to make an initial visit
to New Broadcasting House
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in order to see a normal morning
at the BBC.
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Just to say,
before we go any further,
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just to confirm everyoneās
okay with the change of date for that?
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- Yep.
- Yep.
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Yes, thank you, Ian.
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- Um...
- No, sure Iām good with that.
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- Yes, exactly, Ian.
- And it looks like sheāll be with us
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from about 10:00 onwards.
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- 10:00.
- 10:00, yeah.
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- 10:00.
- Yeah.
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Yes, no, brilliant. Bring it on.
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- Change of date.
- Yes.
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- Yes, itās Tuesday now, Lucy.
- Right.
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- Tuesday.
- Tuesday.
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- Tuesday.
- Why? Is that a...
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No, itās just thatās the morning
Ryan Chelfordās coming in isn't it?
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- Right.
- Yes, it is, yes.
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- Right. Okay.
- Coming in where?
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- Well, in here.
- Here?
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- Yes.
- Ah, no.
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- Great.
- Why?
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- Perfect.
- Well, basically...
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- What for?
- Well,
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weāve asked him in
to talk about the way forward.
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- Who has?
- Well...
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- You have?
- Well, no, it...
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- The way forward?
- Yes.
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- That canāt be happen.
- Oh, bloody hell.
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As the person responsible
for liaising between the BBC
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and whoever the Minister for Culture,
Media and also Sport happens to be,
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itās crucial that everything goes smoothly
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on the day of Fiona Craigās visit,
regardless of how unusual that would be.
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The thing is weāve
moved Ryan three times already.
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Well, great, move him again.
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- Yes, exactly.
- Heāll be getting the hang of it by now.
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- Cool.
- The other way to look at this
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of course is, what sheās expecting to see,
what sheās hoping for anyway,
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is basically a normal morning.
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- Brilliant.
- Normal?
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- Yes.
- Christ.
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Perhaps it would be a good thing for her
to be here when Ryan Chelford comes in.
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- Good.
- After all here we are, talking about
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how best to welcome a cross-dressing
presenter into the BBC Sport family.
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Okay. Let's do this.
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As long as weāre clear about
what our position is on this obviously.
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- Yes.
- Right.
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- Brilliant.
- Yes, exactly.
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What is our position on it?
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- Me?
- Yes.
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- Well, I mean, no oneās really...
- Oh, right, okay.
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- Brilliant.
- Great.
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All right, okay, here we go.
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This is me on my bike.
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This is me on my bike.
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This is me on my bike.
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Meanwhile, elsewhere,
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Jack has got something heās keen
to show Izzy, David and Will.
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This is me on my bike.
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This is me on my bike.
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Heās been working on
a short taster version
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of what would otherwise have been
Willās original idea for On Your Bike,
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to show to Director of Better,
Anna Rampton as a potential flagship show
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for soon to be launched
new online platform BBC Me.
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This is me on my bike!
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Anyway, so...
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- Itās genius, Jack.
- Itās 90 seconds.
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Itās like brilliance on wheels.
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Or thereās like a 70 second cut,
which might be better.
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- Cycle Shorts.
- Well, yeah, I dunno.
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- Cycle Shorts.
- It felt a bit more now,
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than On Your Bike somehow.
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Right. - Free The Selfie.
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- I don't...
- bbcme.com.
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- Unbelievable.
- What?
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So what,
you just went off and did this?
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Well, yeah.
I mean, not personally obviously.
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- But you...
- I donāt actually know anyone
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- who owns a bike.
- You went off and did it,
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you didnāt say anything to me or...
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Hang on, Jesus, Will!
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- What?
- Yeah.
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Thatās you.
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Yeah, no... yeah, no.
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Yeah, hey.
This is me on my bike.
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But this is... I mean,
what is going on here?
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Whatās going on?
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Whatās going on? Yeah. No.
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This is me on my bike.
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This is me on my bike.
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I mean, is there, perhaps,
a home for him somewhere else
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in the world of BBC Sport?
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Okay, Strictly.
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- No.
- What?
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It's got to be
some kind of sport, Siobhan.
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- Yes.
- Okay, so how is that not a sport?
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Given the strong reactions
provoked by Ryan Chelfordās
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Match of the Day appearance and given
the complex and sensitive issues involved,
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the problem for the BBC
is that they donāt know what to do.
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What weāre looking for is something
that isn't literally Match of the Day,
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but at the same time very much plays to
his strengths as you know, as a presenter.
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- Brilliant.
- Cool.
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- Right.
- What strengths?
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- Well...
- He hasnāt got any strengths has he?
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Okay, Celebrity Big Brother.
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- No.
- Itās perfect.
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The fact is thatās
a Channel 4 show anyway.
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Well, it...
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- Channel 4, yep.
- Yep, Channel 4.
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- Channel 4.
- Yep.
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- Yes, well...
- I think thatās Channel 5 now, isn't it?
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- Yeah. Yep.
- Yes I think so.
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- Channel 5, yeah.
- Yes, exactly.
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- Channel 5.
- Channel 5, yeah.
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Yes, we seem to
have gone a bit off-piste somehow.
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- I totally have.
- We really...
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I mean, you wanna be the best duck hunter,
you go where the ducks are.
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- Brilliant.
- The ducks?
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- What?
- And you take the hoisin sauce with you.
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- Brilliant.
- Fuck's sake.
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- I mean, this probably wouldnāt work, but...
- No.
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...but I mean, what about
something like A Question Of Sport?
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- All right, okay.
- A Question Of Sport.
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- Well...
- No, Iām sorry.
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- As I say, itās probably not...
- Exactly.
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Well, no, hang on.
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- Hallelujah!
- So, like, what is that?
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- It's...
- I donāt even know what that is.
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Well, itās one way
of burying him forever for sure.
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Itās like a quiz show, Siobhan.
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- Okay.
- But itās about sport.
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Oh, so what, itās an actual show?
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- Yes, itās on every week with Sue...
- Cool, no, no, sure. I get this, yeah.
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I mean, I think thatās really interesting,
isn't it?
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We love quiz shows.
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You mean as a regular team captain or...
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- No.
- Well, I donāt know, it's...
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No, Iām sorry, the fact is there already
are two team captains for that show.
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- Yeah.
- Yes.
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Yes, just remind me.
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Matt...
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- Matt Dawson...
- Matt Dawson and Phil Tufnell.
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- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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- Right, yes.
- Matt Dawson and Phil Tufnell.
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Despite Annaās
reservations about Lucyās idea,
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thereās a feeling in the room that she may
perhaps have put her finger on something.
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- Okay!
- Cool.
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- Alrighty.
- Blimey.
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- Go, Ryan.
- Bloody genius.
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- Well done, Lucy.
- Yes.
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- Well, no.
- Yes, no, really, Lucy. Hurrah!
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Yes, no, yes.
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- I mean, what were you doing, Will?
- Yeah, what was I doing? Yeah, cr...
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Meanwhile,
back in elsewhere,
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itās become clear that in his role in
Betterness Development,
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Jack has selected
Will as someone ideally qualified
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to approach complete strangers
with bikes and phones
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and persuade them to film themselves
saying, āThis is me on my bike.ā
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I mean, itās like heās actually
using you to steal your own idea from you.
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- Yeah.
- No, Iām not.
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Yeah, crap, yeah.
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Will was the only person I could think of
who would know, like,
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30 other people who ride bikes.
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- Genius.
- So I asked him and he said yes.
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Of course he said yes.
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- Yeah, of course I did, yeah.
- Itās Will!
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Yeah, no, I correct, Iām Will, yeah.
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I mean, Iāve been working on this,
Iāve been trying to get it off the ground
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- for like ages.
- Well, yeah, exactly.
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Itās completely... what?
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Anyway, can I just say, guys, the good
news is, Anna absolutely loves it.
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- Anna?
- What?
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I know.
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You showed this to Anna?
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- Woah.
- Yes, I know, yes.
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So what you...
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No, 'cause, what it was,
I ran into Anna, like, in the lift,
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and, can I just say, has anyone else
noticed the perfume sheās wearing?
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- Her perfume?
- Is it new? Is it just me?
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- Yeah, anyway.
- Yes, I know, yes,
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honestly, what am I like?
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Anyway, we were just, like, chatting, and,
well, I say chatting obviously,
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it was me mostly 'cause
you know what sheās like.
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She doesnāt say much does she?
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Whereas me, I mean,
well, I just open my mouth,
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- Iāve no idea what...
- Yeah, okay.
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So anyway, I promised that I would
forward her the link to it
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and do you know what, by the time I got to
Costa sheād come straight back to me,
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'cause the thing about Anna is,
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she donāt say much,
but when she does she donāt muck about.
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And sheās like,
āOh, my god, David, genius.ā
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- Right, okay.
- Unbelievable.
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I know. 'Cause also...
'cause I haven't finished yet, okay?
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Apparently she likes it so much
that sheās, like, āDo you know what, guys?
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You should be, like, using this as
the online trailer for the BBC Me launch.
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- Right.
- So she sends it straight over
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to Siobhan Sharpe at Fun Media
for them to look at.
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- Siobhan Sharpe?
- Yes, I know.
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- Way, no way.
- Anna sent this to Siobhan Sharpe?
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I know, and apparently sheās,
like, Siobhan practically wet herself.
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- I donāt believe this.
- I know.
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- I do.
- Yeah, unbelievable, yeah.
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And do you know what?
Iām, like, guys, this is just outrageous.
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- Yes.
- Yes.
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Yeah, no mental, yeah. I dunno.
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Itās next Tuesday.
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And another big day
ahead as Ian arrives for work.
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This is the day when top civil
servant Fiona Craig
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from the Department of Culture, Media
and also Sport,
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is due to arrive to see
a normal morning at the BBC.
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But already, things are
starting to look anything but normal.
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- Anna.
- Yes, hi, yes.
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- Youāve got a bike?
- Yes, exactly, yes.
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Well, I mean, what can I say?
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- Congratulations.
- Yes, no, yes.
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Not only has
Director of Better, Anna Rampton,
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apparently decided to join Ian
on two wheels,
325
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but, like him, sheās gone for wheels
that are theoretically at least foldable
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if you were listening to the person
in the shop who explained how to do it.
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I donāt wanna interfere,
but do you want a hand with that?
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Yes. No. The fact is that yes.
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Yeah, no, itās really simple
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- once you get the hang of it.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
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For Ian, this is a chance
to demonstrate a range of skills
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acquired over many years of folding
under all kinds of conditions,
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whilst for Anna, this is a chance
to stand quietly
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and watch everything he does
at close quarters.
335
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- There you are.
- Yes.
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- Yeah, itās really easy.
- Yes, um...
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- So now Iāve...
- Thank you.
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No, no, thatās... But now that Iāve done it
do you want me
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- to undo it again so you can...
- No.
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- No, right.
- No, the fact is I need to
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- change my shoes.
- Right, yes. Okay, well.
342
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- Oh, hi, Lucy.
- Hi, yes.
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- Yes.
- Annaās just joined the club.
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- Yes, good.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
345
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- Whoād have thought it?
- Yes.
346
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Yes, so youāre all set for
the Ryan Chelford...
347
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Yes.
Really sorry, Iāve gotta go.
348
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Yes.
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Right. Great.
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This is also a big day
for Lucy Freeman in her role,
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at least at for the moment anyway,
as Head of Inclusivity.
352
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Hi, Ryan.
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Sheās come outside
to meet Ryan Chelford,
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who has arrived at New Broadcasting House
by parking his Bentley Continental
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almost directly outside it.
356
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- Lovely car.
- Yeah, itās not bad. It does the job.
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Do you know what Iām saying?
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- How was your journey?
- Yeah, no problem, yeah.
359
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Came down last night,
stayed with a mate in Rickmansworth.
360
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Right.
361
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Rickmansworthās quite a long way
out, isn't it?
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Well, I say a mate.
He is a mate, but heās got, like, a hotel.
363
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- Right.
- Yeah.
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Heās here to talk about
his future with the BBC Sport family,
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as well as to reflect in some detail
on his journey to this point.
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No, 'cause the smart move,
what Iāve done is, yeah,
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I went back out on the M25
and back in again on the M1.
368
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- Do you know what Iām saying?
- Right.
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I couldāve gone south and come back in
on the M40, I admit that.
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- Yes.
- But Iām sorry for me thatās not a road.
371
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- No.
- For me youāve got cameras everywhere.
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40 mile an hour restrictions.
You know what Iām saying?
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- You might as well be driving a horse.
- Yes.
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Well, shall I just get you signed in?
Then weāll just head on up.
375
00:13:20,839 --> 00:13:22,040
Yeah, sure, yeah. Nice one.
376
00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,760
And my new agentās supposed to be here.
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- Iām not seeing her.
- Right.
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Iām sorry,
but for me sheās my agent, right?
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Sheās got a job to do,
but for me sheās just not turned up.
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- No, well, perhaps
- Hi...
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- Ryan.
- Yeah, hi.
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- Faiza.
- Oh, right.
383
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- Faiza Raja, Head of Diversity.
- Yeah, no, Faiza. Yeah, nice one.
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- So great to meet you at last.
- Yeah, you too. Yeah, you too.
385
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Thanks so much for coming in today.
386
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- Hi, Faiza.
- Yes. Hi, Lucy, yes.
387
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But if Ryanās agent may not
have turned up for him for some reason,
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current BBC Head of Diversity Faiza Raja,
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at least until Inclusivity and Diversity
are reimagined
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as a single new post of empowerment
as part of the More Of Less initiative,
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definitely has.
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- So you got here all right then, Ryan?
- Yeah, no problem.
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Parking space bang outside.
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- You drove?
- Too right I did.
395
00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,560
- Right.
- Right, yes.
396
00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,640
Although saying that, I came down last
night and stayed with a mate
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in Rickmansworth.
398
00:14:07,599 --> 00:14:08,520
- Yes.
- Rickmansworth?
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I know what youāre thinking,
I say a mate but heās got a hotel.
400
00:14:11,079 --> 00:14:12,360
- Right.
- Yeah.
401
00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,839
- Okay, whatās going on?
- Whatās going on?
402
00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:17,800
You do know
whatās happening this morning?
403
00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,680
Of course, yes.
404
00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,719
So, I mean I donāt mind, but I thought
Iād sort of been dealing with this.
405
00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,199
Yes, no, Iām sorry.
The fact is with...
406
00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,520
- Right, great...
- Right, Iām in.
407
00:14:23,599 --> 00:14:25,160
- Yes.
- Yes, right, well, shall we?
408
00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,680
Woah, excuse my language girls,
but what a fucking place!
409
00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,439
- Well, you know.
- It's like you're in a film.
410
00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,959
- Yes.
- All of a sudden, Iām fucking Tom Cruise,
411
00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,120
- do you know what Iām saying?
- Right.
412
00:14:34,199 --> 00:14:36,040
Your clothes, give them to me now.
413
00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,240
- Yes.
- Yes.
414
00:14:37,439 --> 00:14:39,280
Now listen,
I donāt know how any of this stuff works,
415
00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,040
but basically, as I understand it,
thatās the old bit over there.
416
00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,240
- Yes.
- This is the new bit over here.
417
00:14:44,319 --> 00:14:46,479
- Yes.
- And then this bit was basically built
418
00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,479
- just to sort of join the two.
- Obviously, yes.
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Yes, no, obviously.
Yes, no, very good.
420
00:14:50,079 --> 00:14:54,000
By 10 oāclock, Simon Harwood
is already busy welcoming Fiona Craig
421
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from the Department of Culture,
Media and also Sport,
422
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who has arrived at New Broadcasting House
together with two further women,
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in order to observe a normal morning
at the BBC.
424
00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,520
If it helps, Tony sometimes
refers to it as the mind-brain interface.
425
00:15:07,599 --> 00:15:08,479
All right, okay.
426
00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,680
You know, one of his little things.
427
00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,640
Do you know what? Iām not sure that
does help though does it?
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00:15:11,719 --> 00:15:12,520
Brilliant.
429
00:15:12,599 --> 00:15:13,959
If Iām being really honest
with you, Simon.
430
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Yes, no, of course, yes, no, very good.
431
00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:15,959
Shall we go through?
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Given the potential significance
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of the charter renewal process,
for the future of the BBC
434
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and everyone currently inside it,
435
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itās important that the visiting
delegation feel as comprehensively met
436
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and greeted as possible.
437
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,319
- Fiona, hi.
- Hi, yes.
438
00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,199
- Ian.
- Yes.
439
00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,920
- Ian Fletcher.
- Yes, no, Ian. I assumed as much.
440
00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,800
- Well, itās very good to meet you.
- Yes, no, you too.
441
00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,040
This is Chloe and Zoe.
442
00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:34,920
- Right.
- Hello.
443
00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:35,800
- Hi.
- Hello.
444
00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,079
Youāll not be surprised to hear
Iām forever getting them mixed up.
445
00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,479
- Right.
- But really they donāt seem to mind.
446
00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,360
- No.
- No.
447
00:15:40,439 --> 00:15:42,120
Right, good.
Youāve met Simon then.
448
00:15:42,199 --> 00:15:43,280
Indeed we have Ian, yes.
449
00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,360
- Yes.
- Brilliant.
450
00:15:44,439 --> 00:15:46,199
Well, welcome to New Broadcasting House.
451
00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,280
Yes. No, weāve already done that bit.
452
00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,400
- Oh, right, have you?
- Yes.
453
00:15:48,479 --> 00:15:49,319
- Yes.
- Fabulous.
454
00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,000
- Well, what we...
- Yes, hello, yes.
455
00:15:51,079 --> 00:15:52,880
- Oh, right, okay. Anna.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
456
00:15:52,959 --> 00:15:55,439
As things turn out
on this particular normal morning,
457
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Anna Rampton also happens to be down
in reception in her role
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- as Director of Better.
- This is Anna Rampton, Director of Better.
459
00:16:00,839 --> 00:16:02,199
- Oh, right.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
460
00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,520
Can I ask, Director of Better what, Anna?
461
00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,240
- Yes, no, that...
- Brilliant.
462
00:16:06,319 --> 00:16:07,680
The fact is, welcome to the BBC.
463
00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,199
- No, weāve already done that bit.
- Yes.
464
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- Yes.
- Yes.
465
00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,400
- Right, okay.
- Good.
466
00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,400
I mean, yes,
I couldāve come by train without a doubt.
467
00:16:15,479 --> 00:16:17,280
- Yes.
- But for me, if youāve got a decent car
468
00:16:17,359 --> 00:16:19,240
- you bloody wanna drive somewhere.
- Yes.
469
00:16:19,319 --> 00:16:20,800
I mean, itās not like you can
drive a train.
470
00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,359
- No.
- Okay, you can drive a train.
471
00:16:22,439 --> 00:16:24,479
I admit that.
Like if youāre a train driver,
472
00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,920
but, for me, if youāre driving a train
youāre only ever going in one direction.
473
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,800
Do you know what Iām saying?
474
00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,560
Meanwhile,
up on the sixth floor,
475
00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,800
Head of Inclusivity Lucy Freeman
and Head of Diversity Faiza Raja
476
00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,240
are leading Ryan Chelford
towards his destiny.
477
00:16:37,319 --> 00:16:39,599
Sat on a train, drinking
shit coffee with people you donāt know.
478
00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,479
And with the single
New Head of Empowerment role
479
00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,359
set to replace both their current roles,
quite possibly towards theirs.
480
00:16:45,719 --> 00:16:46,560
Clive.
481
00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:47,880
- Oh, hi, Lucy.
- Hi.
482
00:16:47,959 --> 00:16:49,240
- How are ya?
- Yes, Iām good, thanks.
483
00:16:49,319 --> 00:16:50,800
- You made it then.
- 'Fraid so, yeah.
484
00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,000
- Great, so...
- Clive, weāve not met before.
485
00:16:53,079 --> 00:16:55,040
- Right.
- Faiza. Faiza Raja, Head of Diversity.
486
00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,280
- Oh, okay.
- Yes.
487
00:16:56,359 --> 00:16:57,880
- Good to meet you.
- Yeah, you too, you too.
488
00:16:57,959 --> 00:16:58,839
You know Ryan, of course.
489
00:16:58,920 --> 00:16:59,760
- Yup.
- Yes.
490
00:16:59,839 --> 00:17:01,880
- Yeah, hi, yeah.
- Clive Cook, BBC Head of Football.
491
00:17:01,959 --> 00:17:02,880
Yeah, the main man.
492
00:17:02,959 --> 00:17:05,079
- Well, let's not...
- El misseurino le gaffer.
493
00:17:05,159 --> 00:17:06,359
- What?
- Nice one.
494
00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,440
Okay, so weāre in Mary Berry I think.
495
00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,680
- Oh, are we?
- Yes, so...
496
00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,159
- Well, no.
- I thought it was Frankie Howard?
497
00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,480
- Yes.
- I booked Mary Berry.
498
00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,960
- Right.
- No, I booked Frankie Howard.
499
00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,680
- Well, Iām sorry...
- Has anyone booked a band?
500
00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,319
- What?
- At this rate we could have quite a party.
501
00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,079
One of the distinctive features
502
00:17:21,159 --> 00:17:25,319
of the BBCs intelligent syncopatispace
room booking software,
503
00:17:25,399 --> 00:17:27,200
is that if two people book different rooms
504
00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:32,159
at exactly the same time and under exactly
the same subject heading, it crashes.
505
00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,040
I have, Iāve pressed it
twice and I...
506
00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:35,520
- Shall we try mine?
- Fortunately however,
507
00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,919
Head of Communications Tracy Pritchard
has arrived to help.
508
00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,639
Yes, we just thought it might be
interesting for you to meet him and to,
509
00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,159
just to get a sense of how
someone like him fits into our family.
510
00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,200
- Yes, exactly, yes.
- Meanwhile,
511
00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,960
really not very far away now,
512
00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,879
the visiting delegation from the DCM
and, also, S is getting closer
513
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,919
almost by the yard.
514
00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,919
I think Iām right in
saying that Ryan has already arrived.
515
00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,280
Brilliant.
516
00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:58,000
Ah, yes, so this...
actually I might just, uh...
517
00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,440
Will you excuse me if I just, uh...
518
00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,480
Tracy, hi, yes.
519
00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,560
Yes, I know,
weāre just coming towards you now.
520
00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:04,560
Right.
521
00:18:04,639 --> 00:18:06,919
They may be
walking towards a potential disaster,
522
00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,800
but luckily potential disasters are one of
Tracy Pritchardās key areas of expertise.
523
00:18:11,879 --> 00:18:13,520
Anyway, at the moment,
theyāre both locked.
524
00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,720
- Right.
- Like we physically canāt get in.
525
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,800
Right. - I don't know where Faizaās appeared from.
526
00:18:17,879 --> 00:18:19,680
Right. - Iām not being negative or anything,
527
00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,840
but I have got a very bad feeling
about this.
528
00:18:21,919 --> 00:18:23,600
Right. - Iāve gotta say, Ian,
529
00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,800
from where Iām standing this has
all the makings of a category A,
530
00:18:26,879 --> 00:18:30,720
- 100% platinum standard fuck up.
- Okay, fine. Thanks Tracy, thatās great.
531
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,280
Okay. Good.
532
00:18:42,919 --> 00:18:43,840
All right. Just...
533
00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,399
Ryan, hi.
534
00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:47,840
Yeah, hiya, yeah.
535
00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:48,840
- Ian Fletcher.
- Yeah.
536
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,919
- Good to see you again.
- Yeah, nice one, Ian, yeah.
537
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,480
- Thanks for coming in today.
- Yeah, no worries, Ian, yeah.
538
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,480
My new agentās
supposed to be here somewhere.
539
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,040
But do you know what?
For me, sheās just not turned up.
540
00:18:58,120 --> 00:18:58,919
Right.
541
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,440
Well, let me just
make a few introductions first.
542
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,520
So this is Fiona Craig
from the Department of Culture, Media,
543
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,480
- and interestingly enough, also Sport.
- Nice one.
544
00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,639
With the possible exception of
the person at the centre of it,
545
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,919
everyone involved in the meeting
understands not only
546
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,399
how important it is that it runs smoothly,
547
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,080
but also how remote a prospect that is
given the number of people involved.
548
00:19:17,159 --> 00:19:20,360
And finally, Tracy Pritchard,
Senior Communications person.
549
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,240
- Yes.
- Hello.
550
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,240
Can I just say, Fiona, welcome...
551
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,320
No, the fact is weāve done that.
552
00:19:24,399 --> 00:19:25,200
- All right.
- Yes.
553
00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,080
- Yes.
- Yes.
554
00:19:26,159 --> 00:19:27,879
But not being able to
say with any certainty
555
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,919
where the meeting actually is,
isnāt an ideal start.
556
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,639
Right, okay, well, weāre in
Nadia Hussain I think, arenāt we?
557
00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,800
- Uh, we...
- Yea...yes.
558
00:19:35,879 --> 00:19:38,040
- Nadia Hussain?
- I think so yes, so thatās all good.
559
00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:40,240
Yes. No, brilliant. Now listen, Iām going
to have to leave you guys Iām afraid.
560
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,120
Oh, right.
561
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,000
- If thatās gonna be...
- Yes, fine.
562
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,919
And frankly rather a Tony facing morning,
if you...
563
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,600
- No, thatās good for us really.
- Right.
564
00:19:45,679 --> 00:19:46,480
- Yes.
- Yes.
565
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,639
Fabulously exciting to meet you.
566
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,040
- Yes, you too.
- And donāt take any nonsense
567
00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,679
- from these guys okay?
- That we won't, Simon.
568
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,240
Brilliant. Uh, right.
569
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:53,639
Good-o.
570
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,760
- Right, okay.
- Okay, so if everyone would just like
571
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,720
to follow me?
572
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,159
Howās it going?
573
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,159
- Howās it going?
- Yes.
574
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,919
I feel like I want to cry.
575
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,200
Itāll be fine, okay?
Itās gonna be absolutely fine.
576
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,240
Not if I cry I wonāt.
577
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,000
You wonāt cry.
Question of Sport was your idea.
578
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,840
Itās a brilliant solution, okay?
579
00:20:10,919 --> 00:20:13,360
Should have been
bloody Top Gear and then bloody cars!
580
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,480
Yes, well, we only keep
that for emergency use if I were you.
581
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,080
- Yes.
- Right, okay.
582
00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:20,159
Eventually, the routine meeting
with Ryan Chelford
583
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,600
is inexorably under way.
584
00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:23,679
Okay, well,
so just to say officially then:
585
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,560
- welcome to Ryan.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
586
00:20:25,639 --> 00:20:26,520
- Yes.
- Hey.
587
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:32,200
And also welcome to Fiona,
Chloe and Zoe from the DCM and, also, S,
588
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,280
even though, for the purposes of this
theyāre not actually here of course.
589
00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:36,440
Exactly so, Ian.
590
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,480
- No.
- No.
591
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:38,679
Well, what do you mean theyāre not here?
592
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,760
Right, okay, so I suppose the first thing
to say...
593
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,639
Hey, guys.
594
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,399
- Oh, right.
- Oh, yeah, nice to meet ya.
595
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,639
- Hey, Siobhan.
- Hey.
596
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,639
- You look gorgeous.
- Oh, right, okay.
597
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,399
But just when it looks as
if everything might be
598
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,600
under control again,
599
00:20:49,679 --> 00:20:53,720
it suddenly become clear that following
his recent rise to social media eminence,
600
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,240
Ryan Chelford has signed to Fun Media,
that Siobhan Sharpe is now his new agent
601
00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,080
and that, in her mind,
the future is gender fluid.
602
00:21:01,159 --> 00:21:03,240
Literally sitting on the
next Gayson Perry here, right?
603
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,440
- Yes.
- Grayson Perry.
604
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,040
No, sure, exactly.
Itās a no-brainer.
605
00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:09,280
Yes, so I was just saying Siobhan,
perhaps the first thing to say is,
606
00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:12,840
how excited we are at the prospect
of working with Ryan here at the BBC.
607
00:21:12,919 --> 00:21:14,040
- Yes.
- Yay!
608
00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:15,639
I mean, certainly
from an empowerment point of view.
609
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,520
- Yes, exactly.
- Yes.
610
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,480
Go, Ryan.
611
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,919
Yes, so I guess
the practical question,
612
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,720
aside from the bigger issues
for a moment,
613
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,679
is how and where best to employ
Ryanās talents within the many things
614
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:25,639
that the BBC does.
615
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,639
- Yes, exactly.
- Yes.
616
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,120
- Cool.
- I mean, Clive...
617
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,919
- Yeah?
- I know youāve got some thoughts about
618
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,000
how you see Ryanās role in
relation to Match of the Day itself.
619
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,560
Yeah. So obviously we were lucky
enough to have Ryan on our midweek
620
00:21:36,639 --> 00:21:38,120
FA Cup third round highlight package.
621
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,200
- Yes.
- No worries.
622
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,240
But we found...
623
00:21:40,679 --> 00:21:44,360
We debrief after every show, obviously,
and we found ourselves asking
624
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,040
whether Match of the Day
represents the best possible fit
625
00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:49,639
for Ryanās talents going forward.
626
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,000
- Right, okay.
- Yes.
627
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,360
- So if thatās the case...
- No, Iām sorry guys. Sorry, Clive.
628
00:21:53,439 --> 00:21:55,000
- What are you saying there?
- Yes, exactly.
629
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,240
I mean, 'cause for me, Iām sat here,
Iāve drove all the way down from Cheshire
630
00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,120
do you know what Iām saying?
631
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,120
- Yes.
- You so have.
632
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,520
Though saying that I did stay
with a mate in Rickmansworth last night.
633
00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:03,919
Right.
634
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,040
No, this is very
much about exploring possibilities
635
00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:09,360
and being prepared to go beyond the
obvious to make sure we get this right.
636
00:22:09,439 --> 00:22:10,520
- Yes.
- Exactly, yes.
637
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,399
- Totally.
- Yes.
638
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,200
So very much with that spirit in mind,
639
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,240
Lucy has come up with what we think
is potentially a really interesting idea.
640
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,240
- Yes.
- All right.
641
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,879
- Well, no.
- Iāve gotta say, I agree.
642
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,159
I wonāt say any more,
Iāll let Lucy talk us through it.
643
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,040
Yes.
644
00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:24,960
But weād be very
interested to see what you think.
645
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,000
Okay. Nice one.
646
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,000
Okay...
647
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,040
- Well, no...
- Sorry, Lucy. Sorry, Ian,
648
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:31,320
but just to check
this isnāt A Question of Sport is it?
649
00:22:31,399 --> 00:22:33,480
Well I mean yes, what? - A Question of Sport?
650
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,040
- Well, perhaps...
- What, do you mean with
651
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,240
- Sue whatās-her-name?
- Exactly.
652
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,200
I mean, Iām sorry, the fact
is I just donāt think thatās gonna work.
653
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,000
- Well, thatās...
- The fact is weāre talking about over
654
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,360
half a million followers on Twitter now.
A lot of them in the LGBT community.
655
00:22:44,439 --> 00:22:45,560
- Yes.
- Yay!
656
00:22:45,639 --> 00:22:47,360
This isnāt about
hiding him away on a quiz show.
657
00:22:47,439 --> 00:22:49,439
- No, no.
- The fact is, this is about having a face,
658
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,720
like Ryanās face, as a regular presence
on a show like the Match of the Day.
659
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,679
- Yes, exactly.
- Yes.
660
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,120
- Okay, cool.
- Right, okay.
661
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,520
Let's do it, let's do this thing.
662
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,960
I mean, Clive, given what
youāve said already I donāt know
663
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,280
- what your reaction is to that as a...
- Yeah, so I think probably
664
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:05,040
the thing to say about that is, from our
point of view, itās not going to happen.
665
00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,639
- Right, okay.
- Yes, Iāve gotta say guys, I thought so.
666
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,520
Bummer.
667
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,200
Yeah, hey, this is me on my bike.
668
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,439
This is me on my bike.
669
00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:15,200
Meanwhile, elsewhere,
670
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,600
Development Executive Izzy Gould
is busy reviewing developments
671
00:23:18,679 --> 00:23:21,560
with what was On Your Bike
before itās recent transformation
672
00:23:21,639 --> 00:23:23,320
into someone else's idea.
673
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,040
Hey.
674
00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:27,320
Oh, hi.
675
00:23:27,399 --> 00:23:28,240
It's not bad is it?
676
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,800
- What are you doing here?
- Nothing.
677
00:23:29,879 --> 00:23:31,040
- What do you want?
- Brought you coffee.
678
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:31,919
- Coffee?
- Yes.
679
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,120
- What for?
- I dunno, to drink I guess.
680
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,240
Unless you wanna
do something else with it?
681
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,520
- Can I sit here for a minute?
- Thereās someone there.
682
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,840
No, I know.
Just for a minute, thatās all.
683
00:23:40,919 --> 00:23:42,360
I wonāt even put my coffee down. Look.
684
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,720
So, David Wilks has somehow managed
to set up a meeting with Matt Taverner
685
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,600
and Siobhan Sharpe
about the BBC Me launch,
686
00:23:48,679 --> 00:23:50,040
- I mean, about everything.
- Right.
687
00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:51,159
So Iām gonna go.
688
00:23:55,159 --> 00:23:56,520
And what about Will?
689
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,760
- Will.
- Yes.
690
00:23:58,120 --> 00:23:59,520
Just come to the meeting, okay?
691
00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:01,480
Why wouldnāt you?
692
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,879
I mean, Iām sorry,
but this isnāt actually
693
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,360
- about diversity is it?
- No, Iām sorry...
694
00:24:11,439 --> 00:24:14,000
On which, by the way, Iām very proud of
our record on Match of the Day.
695
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,240
Iām sorry, the fact is,
696
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,560
this is really about empowerment.
697
00:24:16,639 --> 00:24:17,560
- Exactly.
- Okay.
698
00:24:17,639 --> 00:24:18,480
- Yes.
- Yes.
699
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,280
I mean, I thought we were supposed
to be on the same side here, aren't we?
700
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:21,200
- Well, yes.
- Yes.
701
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,399
Can I just say, guys,
I certainly am.
702
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,480
Yeah, you donāt
wanna start arguing with yourselves.
703
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,960
- No, well...
- I mean, Iām sorry, for me,
704
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,879
thatās poor thinking.
705
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,320
Back in Nadia Hussain,
706
00:24:29,399 --> 00:24:31,840
things are getting more
normal virtually by the minute.
707
00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:34,000
With respect, Clive,
the fact is itās not for you to say
708
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,560
what is and isnāt an empowerment issue.
709
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,560
In this particular case I think it is.
710
00:24:37,639 --> 00:24:39,639
In this particular case
it absolutely isnāt.
711
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,320
- Yes, it is.
- Okay, so weāve got both sides
712
00:24:41,399 --> 00:24:43,879
of the argument pretty much
nailed down now, so thatās all good.
713
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,360
- Cool.
- As Head of Values,
714
00:24:45,439 --> 00:24:47,879
Ian is aware that the last thing
that needs to happen
715
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,480
is for the BBCās current Head of Diversity
716
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,439
to have a full scale argument about
a cross-dressing presenter
717
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,280
with the BBC Head of Football
in front of a visiting team
718
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:59,520
from the Department of Culture,
Media and also Sport.
719
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,600
I mean, it seems to me, Faiza,
that your point is about having a face
720
00:25:02,679 --> 00:25:04,120
like Ryanās on a flagship show,
721
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,800
which you could argue has
been too narrowly gendered up to now.
722
00:25:06,879 --> 00:25:08,320
- Exactly, yes.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
723
00:25:08,399 --> 00:25:11,639
And Cliveās point is that
Match of the Day itself may not actually
724
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,120
be the most effective context in
which to address this issue.
725
00:25:14,199 --> 00:25:15,800
- Yeah, is it?
- Yes. I think so, yes.
726
00:25:15,879 --> 00:25:16,840
Right, okay.
727
00:25:16,919 --> 00:25:19,520
No, 'cause Iām just thinking, Lucy,
the other idea you had, of course,
728
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,879
knowing Ryanās interests and strengths
729
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,199
and you might want to say
more about how you came to this,
730
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,840
was whether there might be a
role for him somewhere in Top Gear.
731
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,520
- Yes, uh...
- Top Gear?
732
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:30,800
- Yes, no.
- Youāre kidding me?
733
00:25:30,879 --> 00:25:32,399
- Blimey.
- Holy shit.
734
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,600
- I just wondered whether...
- Sure.
735
00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:35,159
I wondered whether that might be
736
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,240
- an interesting thing.
- Sure.
737
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,399
I mean, for Top Gear too, I mean.
738
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,320
- Yes.
- No, sure, I'd totally watch that.
739
00:25:39,399 --> 00:25:41,800
I mean, youāve gotta say, guys,
whatever you think of Top Gear,
740
00:25:41,879 --> 00:25:43,439
and obviously I never watch it myself,
741
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,800
- but that really is a big idea.
- Well, yes.
742
00:25:45,879 --> 00:25:47,639
I mean, obviously thereād be some
in-house issues
743
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,199
weād have to navigate our way through.
744
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,320
- Yes, no, but in principle...
- In principle, yes.
745
00:25:51,399 --> 00:25:52,280
Cool!
746
00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:53,879
And you know,
itās our job to think big thoughts
747
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,520
and maybe thatās something you
might be able to help with anyway, Anna?
748
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,240
Yes, exactly, yes.
749
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,760
- I mean, Ryan...
- I mean, I love this.
750
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,919
I totally love it when this shit happens.
751
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,800
And yes, so Ryan, I mean I donāt know
what you're in...
752
00:26:04,879 --> 00:26:05,679
Okay, for me, right,
753
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,080
excuse my language, right,
Iām sorry, but Lisa, I bloody love you.
754
00:26:09,159 --> 00:26:10,560
- Well, no...
- I mean, youāve come here,
755
00:26:10,639 --> 00:26:12,040
youāve sat there, youāve said nothing...
756
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:14,199
Just, it was something I
think I could see working, thatās all.
757
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,919
That for me is top, top thinking.
758
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,760
- Yep, me too, yeah.
- Right, well...
759
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,320
- Good job, guys.
- And so, we move on.
760
00:26:19,399 --> 00:26:22,399
So, can I just say, 'cause I know weāre
not supposed to be here
761
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,520
I donāt know what
it was like for you guys,
762
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,919
but this is probably the most fun weāve
had in quite some time, isn't it, girls?
763
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,080
- Yes.
- Yes.
764
00:26:30,159 --> 00:26:32,040
Right, so yes,
potentially then, thatās all good.
765
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:33,120
- Yes.
- Yes.
766
00:26:49,879 --> 00:26:50,840
Oh, hi.
767
00:26:50,919 --> 00:26:52,159
- Yes, hi, yes.
- Yes.
768
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,399
- Doors open.
- Eventually itās the end
769
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,360
of the day.
770
00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:58,000
With yet another potential disaster
at the last moment
771
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,679
somehow turned into a potential solution.
772
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,800
You know, I suppose the main thing is
we got through another day.
773
00:27:02,879 --> 00:27:04,000
- Yes.
- If thatās a good thing?
774
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,960
Yes.
775
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,480
Forgive me asking
and obviously itās none of my business
776
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,040
but have you decided
what youāre doing yet?
777
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,760
- About?
- You know, with the job and...
778
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,080
Oh, right, yes, um...
779
00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:14,120
Itās also a day which has left
Lucy thoughtful
780
00:27:14,199 --> 00:27:17,120
about whether to apply for
the new Head of Empowerment post,
781
00:27:17,199 --> 00:27:20,720
or to embrace the new More Of Less
initiative even more enthusiastically
782
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,000
by leaving altogether.
783
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,760
I didnāt really
want to apply for the job Iāve got.
784
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,560
- Well, no, I remember.
- Never mind this one.
785
00:27:25,639 --> 00:27:26,960
You were gonna work in a garden centre.
786
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,000
Yes.
787
00:27:28,399 --> 00:27:30,320
Yeah, I dunno, like I think
itās gonna be easier like to start again.
788
00:27:30,399 --> 00:27:31,199
Yes, all right.
789
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,240
But it turns out that Lucy
isnāt the only one
790
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,199
with a knotty problem to grapple with.
791
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,080
Hi.
792
00:27:36,159 --> 00:27:37,919
- Yeah, hi, yeah.
- Yes, hi, yes.
793
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,199
- Hi, Anna.
- Yes, exactly.
794
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,399
- Everything okay?
- Yes.
795
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,240
Yeah, I dunno like
Iāve never seen one do this before.
796
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,600
- Well, I would offer to help but...
- Yes.
797
00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:45,679
- I think Willās probably...
- Yeah, no worries here, cool.
798
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,960
Yes, exactly, you can go now.
799
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,199
- Yeah, no, but...
- Thank you.
800
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,560
- Okay.
- Right, um...
801
00:27:49,639 --> 00:27:50,960
- Yes.
- I mean, I really donāt want to
802
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,439
- interfere, Will.
- Yeah, no worries here, yeah.
803
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,639
Yes, exactly, yes.
804
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,560
- Okay.
- Right, uh...
805
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,639
For Ian, after a long day,
806
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,159
this is a chance to demonstrate just how
rapidly you can transform
807
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,720
an apparently random arrangement of steel,
rubber, handlebars and other things
808
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,560
into a completely different arrangement
twice its real size
809
00:28:08,639 --> 00:28:10,080
if you really want to.
810
00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:11,280
Just the pedal there.
811
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:12,919
There thatās it and there you go, done.
812
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,399
- Yes, thank you.
- Okay, well...
813
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,360
Yes.
814
00:28:15,439 --> 00:28:17,520
- Donāt forget helmet and lights.
- Yeah, no, exactly, no.
815
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,040
Wouldnāt want anything to happen to you.
816
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,600
- Yes.
- Okay.
817
00:28:20,679 --> 00:28:21,639
Thank you.
818
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,960
- Shall I just...
- Yes, exactly, yes.
819
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,439
Okay, there you go.
820
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,320
Yes.
821
00:28:27,399 --> 00:28:28,240
See you tomorrow.
822
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,720
Yes, exactly, yes.
823
00:28:39,639 --> 00:28:41,120
Oh, right, okay.
824
00:28:41,959 --> 00:28:43,199
Good.
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