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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,279 {\an8}For me, what this says, it’s understated. 2 00:00:07,359 --> 00:00:08,160 {\an8}You know what I’m saying? 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,320 {\an8}Obviously the danger is, 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,240 {\an8}if he’s actively excluded from appearing on Match of the Day, that could read 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:13,600 {\an8}- as an example of prejudice. - Right. 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,639 {\an8}And Ryan, I know you were less than impressed 7 00:00:15,719 --> 00:00:17,439 {\an8}with some of Southampton’s defending. 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,360 {\an8}Yeah, I was Gary. Yeah, I was. 9 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:20,759 {\an8}Right. 10 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,360 {\an8}I think we’re at a point now where we can say with some confidence 11 00:00:23,439 --> 00:00:24,759 {\an8}that he is naturally crap. 12 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,360 {\an8}I’ve had some times in this I have. 13 00:00:26,439 --> 00:00:28,200 {\an8}Too dull for Match of the Day? 14 00:00:28,279 --> 00:00:29,759 {\an8}I mean, what is that? It’s not even a shape, 15 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,759 {\an8}it’s just like a pointy line. 16 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,120 {\an8}It’s just something he's got in him, I think. 17 00:00:33,199 --> 00:00:34,320 {\an8}- Right, yes. - Right. 18 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,480 {\an8}We are starting to take heavy incoming on this in the press office already. 19 00:00:37,559 --> 00:00:39,760 {\an8}Well, I’m sorry, but for me you’re not gonna win games 20 00:00:39,839 --> 00:00:41,800 {\an8}at this level with pointy lines, Gary. 21 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:50,559 {\an8}♪ 22 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,519 Standby 2. 23 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,480 Mix through, cue on 2. 24 00:00:54,559 --> 00:00:56,360 The BBC’s announced the appointment 25 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,839 of the ex-head of Olympic Delivery Ian Fletcher as its new Head of Values. 26 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,560 Time now for the shipping forecast. 27 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,080 Superimpose. 28 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,080 It’s 8:30 in the morning 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,679 on another in a series of relentlessly big days 30 00:01:25,759 --> 00:01:29,320 for the BBC at its New Broadcasting House central command centre 31 00:01:29,399 --> 00:01:30,759 in central London. 32 00:01:30,839 --> 00:01:31,800 Ah, yes! Hi, guys. 33 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,679 - Yep. - Yep. 34 00:01:32,759 --> 00:01:34,520 - Morning. - Yeah, heya... 35 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,440 No, no, no. Don’t stand there, just come on in. 36 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:39,520 Have a seat. No listen, have two. 37 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,399 Make yourself at home. 38 00:01:40,759 --> 00:01:42,759 This morning, Head of Strategic Governance, 39 00:01:42,839 --> 00:01:46,119 Simon Harwood, has arrived to find people already waiting to see him. 40 00:01:46,199 --> 00:01:48,000 It’s very much the way things are gonna be from now on, 41 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,240 and I don’t know about you, but these days I’m just grateful 42 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,640 to have a bike to ride and some legs to ride it with. 43 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,039 As part of the BBCs major new More Of Less initiative, 44 00:01:56,119 --> 00:01:58,839 junior executives Ben and Jerry have discovered 45 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,479 that they’re going to be given the opportunity to apply for their own jobs. 46 00:02:02,559 --> 00:02:04,440 The total of which has been revised downwards 47 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,000 going forward from the current figure of two to a new total of one. 48 00:02:08,079 --> 00:02:09,880 I mean, you’re gonna know how you’ll wanna feel about this 49 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,040 and I’ve no idea how these things work, 50 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,239 but I don’t know, for what it’s worth, um... 51 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,720 maybe if you were to think of yourselves as either Ben or Jerry 52 00:02:17,799 --> 00:02:20,120 instead of Ben and Jerry going forward. 53 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,320 - Yep. - Uh-huh. 54 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,680 I mean, I dunno, does that help? 55 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,640 Okay, but it’s, like, what you guys have got to realize is... 56 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:27,920 No, I’m sorry, Siobhan. 57 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,359 Okay, it’s, like, no one has, like, agenda anymore. 58 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,560 - What? - I mean that’s just, like, 59 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:33,400 - what even is that? Just get over it. - Brilliant. 60 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,320 By 9 o’clock the day's damage limitation meeting is well under way. 61 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,560 Wait a moment. Where’s it gone? I had it a moment ago... 62 00:02:39,640 --> 00:02:44,280 Uh... Right, okay, um, "Just iPlayered Ryan Chelford on MOTD. 63 00:02:44,359 --> 00:02:47,640 OMG fabulous, Claudia Winkleman with stubble. 64 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,760 Keep it fluid. #FootballSexy, #LGBTFuture." 65 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,720 - Right. - Cool. 66 00:02:52,799 --> 00:02:54,200 So that’s a new one then is it, Lucy? 67 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,120 I haven't seen that one. 68 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,440 - David Walliams. - Oh, right. 69 00:02:56,519 --> 00:02:57,760 - David Walliams. - David Walliams, yeah. 70 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:58,799 Yes, that makes sense. 71 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,519 It’s always a packed program, 72 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,079 but top of the agenda by some way this morning 73 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,280 is the issue of ex-Premier League footballer 74 00:03:05,359 --> 00:03:08,200 and would be Match of the Day pundit, Ryan Chelford. 75 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,359 Okay right, here we go. 76 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,440 "WTF BBC, I thought Robbie Savage was crap, 77 00:03:13,519 --> 00:03:15,359 - but this guy’s in a league of his own." - Right. 78 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,440 "Doesn’t matter what he wears, he’s still gonna be crap." 79 00:03:17,519 --> 00:03:19,200 - Okay. - "MOTD’s shit anyway." 80 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,399 - Yes, so... - Brilliant. 81 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,399 And then droopy face. 82 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Yes, well. 83 00:03:22,359 --> 00:03:23,920 Yes, and just out of interest, who is that, Tracy? 84 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,120 That’s actually Gary Lineker. 85 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,239 - Oh, okay. - Yes. 86 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,280 - Right. - Gary Lineker, yep. 87 00:03:27,359 --> 00:03:28,160 Interesting. 88 00:03:28,239 --> 00:03:29,079 - Gary Lineker. - Gary Lineker, yep. 89 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,320 Since his trial appearance as a pundit on a midweek Match of the Day 90 00:03:32,399 --> 00:03:34,880 FA Cup third round highlights package, 91 00:03:34,959 --> 00:03:38,440 reaction on social media has been almost universally divided. 92 00:03:38,519 --> 00:03:40,320 No, I mean, listen, you guys’ll know how you wanna handle this 93 00:03:40,399 --> 00:03:42,920 and who knows quite which way Tony swings, football wise... 94 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,280 - No. - But for what it’s worth, 95 00:03:44,359 --> 00:03:46,600 I did snatch a quick macchiato moment with him this morning. 96 00:03:46,679 --> 00:03:47,920 - Oh, right? - Yeah, he’s just back from 97 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,679 a mindfulness weekend in Somerset, 98 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,320 which was apparently really rather wonderful. 99 00:03:51,399 --> 00:03:52,200 - Right. - Oh... 100 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,040 No, but for what it’s worth, his thought on this, 101 00:03:54,119 --> 00:03:55,480 what with charter renewal and so forth, 102 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,399 is that it might be rather smart to get this whole thing sorted 103 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,600 - before the Fiona Craig visit next week. - Well, yes. 104 00:04:01,679 --> 00:04:02,799 - Yes, because... - Yes, exactly. 105 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Next week the very senior civil servant with responsibility 106 00:04:06,519 --> 00:04:09,880 for charter renewal negotiations from the Department of Culture, Media, 107 00:04:09,959 --> 00:04:11,920 and for some reason, also Sport, 108 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,880 is due to make an initial visit to New Broadcasting House 109 00:04:14,959 --> 00:04:17,599 in order to see a normal morning at the BBC. 110 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:18,880 Just to say, before we go any further, 111 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,519 just to confirm everyone’s okay with the change of date for that? 112 00:04:21,599 --> 00:04:22,400 - Yep. - Yep. 113 00:04:22,479 --> 00:04:23,280 Yes, thank you, Ian. 114 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,479 - Um... - No, sure I’m good with that. 115 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,320 - Yes, exactly, Ian. - And it looks like she’ll be with us 116 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,760 from about 10:00 onwards. 117 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:28,800 - 10:00. - 10:00, yeah. 118 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:29,800 - 10:00. - Yeah. 119 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,039 Yes, no, brilliant. Bring it on. 120 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,039 - Change of date. - Yes. 121 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,760 - Yes, it’s Tuesday now, Lucy. - Right. 122 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:34,640 - Tuesday. - Tuesday. 123 00:04:34,719 --> 00:04:35,560 - Tuesday. - Why? Is that a... 124 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,000 No, it’s just that’s the morning Ryan Chelford’s coming in isn't it? 125 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:38,880 - Right. - Yes, it is, yes. 126 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,320 - Right. Okay. - Coming in where? 127 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,360 - Well, in here. - Here? 128 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,400 - Yes. - Ah, no. 129 00:04:42,479 --> 00:04:43,320 - Great. - Why? 130 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,280 - Perfect. - Well, basically... 131 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,159 - What for? - Well, 132 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:46,599 we’ve asked him in to talk about the way forward. 133 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,479 - Who has? - Well... 134 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:48,400 - You have? - Well, no, it... 135 00:04:48,479 --> 00:04:49,599 - The way forward? - Yes. 136 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,400 - That can’t be happen. - Oh, bloody hell. 137 00:04:51,479 --> 00:04:54,320 As the person responsible for liaising between the BBC 138 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,280 and whoever the Minister for Culture, Media and also Sport happens to be, 139 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,159 it’s crucial that everything goes smoothly 140 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:04,320 on the day of Fiona Craig’s visit, regardless of how unusual that would be. 141 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,159 The thing is we’ve moved Ryan three times already. 142 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,360 Well, great, move him again. 143 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,039 - Yes, exactly. - He’ll be getting the hang of it by now. 144 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,440 - Cool. - The other way to look at this 145 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,240 of course is, what she’s expecting to see, what she’s hoping for anyway, 146 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:14,919 is basically a normal morning. 147 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:15,960 - Brilliant. - Normal? 148 00:05:16,039 --> 00:05:16,960 - Yes. - Christ. 149 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:19,599 Perhaps it would be a good thing for her to be here when Ryan Chelford comes in. 150 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,320 - Good. - After all here we are, talking about 151 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,760 how best to welcome a cross-dressing presenter into the BBC Sport family. 152 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:25,840 Okay. Let's do this. 153 00:05:25,919 --> 00:05:28,400 As long as we’re clear about what our position is on this obviously. 154 00:05:28,479 --> 00:05:29,320 - Yes. - Right. 155 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,440 - Brilliant. - Yes, exactly. 156 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,120 What is our position on it? 157 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,080 - Me? - Yes. 158 00:05:33,159 --> 00:05:35,039 - Well, I mean, no one’s really... - Oh, right, okay. 159 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:35,919 - Brilliant. - Great. 160 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,919 All right, okay, here we go. 161 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,039 This is me on my bike. 162 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:42,599 This is me on my bike. 163 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,840 This is me on my bike. 164 00:05:44,919 --> 00:05:46,120 Meanwhile, elsewhere, 165 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,240 Jack has got something he’s keen to show Izzy, David and Will. 166 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,400 This is me on my bike. 167 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,400 This is me on my bike. 168 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:54,760 He’s been working on a short taster version 169 00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:58,560 of what would otherwise have been Will’s original idea for On Your Bike, 170 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,680 to show to Director of Better, Anna Rampton as a potential flagship show 171 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,520 for soon to be launched new online platform BBC Me. 172 00:06:06,599 --> 00:06:08,280 This is me on my bike! 173 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,520 Anyway, so... 174 00:06:15,599 --> 00:06:17,000 - It’s genius, Jack. - It’s 90 seconds. 175 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,359 It’s like brilliance on wheels. 176 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Or there’s like a 70 second cut, which might be better. 177 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:22,960 - Cycle Shorts. - Well, yeah, I dunno. 178 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:24,560 - Cycle Shorts. - It felt a bit more now, 179 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,680 than On Your Bike somehow. 180 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,840 Right. - Free The Selfie. 181 00:06:26,919 --> 00:06:28,000 - I don't... - bbcme.com. 182 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,400 - Unbelievable. - What? 183 00:06:29,479 --> 00:06:31,400 So what, you just went off and did this? 184 00:06:31,479 --> 00:06:33,359 Well, yeah. I mean, not personally obviously. 185 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,440 - But you... - I don’t actually know anyone 186 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,840 - who owns a bike. - You went off and did it, 187 00:06:35,919 --> 00:06:37,200 you didn’t say anything to me or... 188 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:38,760 Hang on, Jesus, Will! 189 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:39,840 - What? - Yeah. 190 00:06:39,919 --> 00:06:40,719 That’s you. 191 00:06:40,799 --> 00:06:42,159 Yeah, no... yeah, no. 192 00:06:44,039 --> 00:06:46,680 Yeah, hey. This is me on my bike. 193 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,840 But this is... I mean, what is going on here? 194 00:06:48,919 --> 00:06:49,799 What’s going on? 195 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,359 What’s going on? Yeah. No. 196 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,919 This is me on my bike. 197 00:06:53,479 --> 00:06:55,320 This is me on my bike. 198 00:06:56,159 --> 00:06:58,560 I mean, is there, perhaps, a home for him somewhere else 199 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,000 in the world of BBC Sport? 200 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Okay, Strictly. 201 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,919 - No. - What? 202 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,240 It's got to be some kind of sport, Siobhan. 203 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,840 - Yes. - Okay, so how is that not a sport? 204 00:07:06,159 --> 00:07:09,080 Given the strong reactions provoked by Ryan Chelford’s 205 00:07:09,159 --> 00:07:13,200 Match of the Day appearance and given the complex and sensitive issues involved, 206 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,120 the problem for the BBC is that they don’t know what to do. 207 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,599 What we’re looking for is something that isn't literally Match of the Day, 208 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,000 but at the same time very much plays to his strengths as you know, as a presenter. 209 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:22,880 - Brilliant. - Cool. 210 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,000 - Right. - What strengths? 211 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,440 - Well... - He hasn’t got any strengths has he? 212 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,520 Okay, Celebrity Big Brother. 213 00:07:26,599 --> 00:07:27,560 - No. - It’s perfect. 214 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,280 The fact is that’s a Channel 4 show anyway. 215 00:07:29,359 --> 00:07:30,159 Well, it... 216 00:07:30,239 --> 00:07:31,239 - Channel 4, yep. - Yep, Channel 4. 217 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,120 - Channel 4. - Yep. 218 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,239 - Yes, well... - I think that’s Channel 5 now, isn't it? 219 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,400 - Yeah. Yep. - Yes I think so. 220 00:07:35,479 --> 00:07:36,799 - Channel 5, yeah. - Yes, exactly. 221 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,120 - Channel 5. - Channel 5, yeah. 222 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,280 Yes, we seem to have gone a bit off-piste somehow. 223 00:07:40,359 --> 00:07:41,479 - I totally have. - We really... 224 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,640 I mean, you wanna be the best duck hunter, you go where the ducks are. 225 00:07:43,719 --> 00:07:44,640 - Brilliant. - The ducks? 226 00:07:44,719 --> 00:07:46,799 - What? - And you take the hoisin sauce with you. 227 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,880 - Brilliant. - Fuck's sake. 228 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,560 - I mean, this probably wouldn’t work, but... - No. 229 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,640 ...but I mean, what about something like A Question Of Sport? 230 00:07:51,719 --> 00:07:53,440 - All right, okay. - A Question Of Sport. 231 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,880 - Well... - No, I’m sorry. 232 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:55,960 - As I say, it’s probably not... - Exactly. 233 00:07:56,039 --> 00:07:56,919 Well, no, hang on. 234 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,599 - Hallelujah! - So, like, what is that? 235 00:07:58,679 --> 00:08:00,000 - It's... - I don’t even know what that is. 236 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,840 Well, it’s one way of burying him forever for sure. 237 00:08:01,919 --> 00:08:03,120 It’s like a quiz show, Siobhan. 238 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,440 - Okay. - But it’s about sport. 239 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,840 Oh, so what, it’s an actual show? 240 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:08,400 - Yes, it’s on every week with Sue... - Cool, no, no, sure. I get this, yeah. 241 00:08:08,479 --> 00:08:09,719 I mean, I think that’s really interesting, isn't it? 242 00:08:09,799 --> 00:08:10,840 We love quiz shows. 243 00:08:10,919 --> 00:08:12,280 You mean as a regular team captain or... 244 00:08:12,359 --> 00:08:13,599 - No. - Well, I don’t know, it's... 245 00:08:13,679 --> 00:08:16,400 No, I’m sorry, the fact is there already are two team captains for that show. 246 00:08:16,479 --> 00:08:17,400 - Yeah. - Yes. 247 00:08:17,479 --> 00:08:18,719 Yes, just remind me. 248 00:08:18,799 --> 00:08:19,599 Matt... 249 00:08:19,679 --> 00:08:21,239 - Matt Dawson... - Matt Dawson and Phil Tufnell. 250 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,120 - Yeah. - Yeah. 251 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,120 - Right, yes. - Matt Dawson and Phil Tufnell. 252 00:08:30,159 --> 00:08:33,120 Despite Anna’s reservations about Lucy’s idea, 253 00:08:33,199 --> 00:08:36,760 there’s a feeling in the room that she may perhaps have put her finger on something. 254 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:37,880 - Okay! - Cool. 255 00:08:37,959 --> 00:08:39,480 - Alrighty. - Blimey. 256 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,159 - Go, Ryan. - Bloody genius. 257 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,280 - Well done, Lucy. - Yes. 258 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,480 - Well, no. - Yes, no, really, Lucy. Hurrah! 259 00:08:44,560 --> 00:08:46,000 Yes, no, yes. 260 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,160 - I mean, what were you doing, Will? - Yeah, what was I doing? Yeah, cr... 261 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,680 Meanwhile, back in elsewhere, 262 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,480 it’s become clear that in his role in Betterness Development, 263 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:57,680 Jack has selected Will as someone ideally qualified 264 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,280 to approach complete strangers with bikes and phones 265 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,680 and persuade them to film themselves saying, ā€œThis is me on my bike.ā€ 266 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,160 I mean, it’s like he’s actually using you to steal your own idea from you. 267 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,240 - Yeah. - No, I’m not. 268 00:09:07,319 --> 00:09:08,240 Yeah, crap, yeah. 269 00:09:08,319 --> 00:09:09,920 Will was the only person I could think of who would know, like, 270 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,040 30 other people who ride bikes. 271 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,760 - Genius. - So I asked him and he said yes. 272 00:09:12,839 --> 00:09:13,760 Of course he said yes. 273 00:09:13,839 --> 00:09:15,079 - Yeah, of course I did, yeah. - It’s Will! 274 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,600 Yeah, no, I correct, I’m Will, yeah. 275 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:18,880 I mean, I’ve been working on this, I’ve been trying to get it off the ground 276 00:09:18,959 --> 00:09:20,800 - for like ages. - Well, yeah, exactly. 277 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,000 It’s completely... what? 278 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Anyway, can I just say, guys, the good news is, Anna absolutely loves it. 279 00:09:26,079 --> 00:09:26,959 - Anna? - What? 280 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:27,959 I know. 281 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,040 You showed this to Anna? 282 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,040 - Woah. - Yes, I know, yes. 283 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:30,920 So what you... 284 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,560 No, 'cause, what it was, I ran into Anna, like, in the lift, 285 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,199 and, can I just say, has anyone else noticed the perfume she’s wearing? 286 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,000 - Her perfume? - Is it new? Is it just me? 287 00:09:38,079 --> 00:09:39,040 - Yeah, anyway. - Yes, I know, yes, 288 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:39,920 honestly, what am I like? 289 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,920 Anyway, we were just, like, chatting, and, well, I say chatting obviously, 290 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,640 it was me mostly 'cause you know what she’s like. 291 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:45,800 She doesn’t say much does she? 292 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,199 Whereas me, I mean, well, I just open my mouth, 293 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,079 - I’ve no idea what... - Yeah, okay. 294 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,520 So anyway, I promised that I would forward her the link to it 295 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,760 and do you know what, by the time I got to Costa she’d come straight back to me, 296 00:09:54,839 --> 00:09:55,800 'cause the thing about Anna is, 297 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,400 she don’t say much, but when she does she don’t muck about. 298 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:58,880 And she’s like, ā€œOh, my god, David, genius.ā€ 299 00:09:58,959 --> 00:10:00,600 - Right, okay. - Unbelievable. 300 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:02,560 I know. 'Cause also... 'cause I haven't finished yet, okay? 301 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,480 Apparently she likes it so much that she’s, like, ā€œDo you know what, guys? 302 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:08,319 You should be, like, using this as the online trailer for the BBC Me launch. 303 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,360 - Right. - So she sends it straight over 304 00:10:10,439 --> 00:10:12,400 to Siobhan Sharpe at Fun Media for them to look at. 305 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:13,959 - Siobhan Sharpe? - Yes, I know. 306 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,000 - Way, no way. - Anna sent this to Siobhan Sharpe? 307 00:10:16,079 --> 00:10:18,680 I know, and apparently she’s, like, Siobhan practically wet herself. 308 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,120 - I don’t believe this. - I know. 309 00:10:21,199 --> 00:10:22,720 - I do. - Yeah, unbelievable, yeah. 310 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,120 And do you know what? I’m, like, guys, this is just outrageous. 311 00:10:25,199 --> 00:10:26,160 - Yes. - Yes. 312 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,839 Yeah, no mental, yeah. I dunno. 313 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:47,959 It’s next Tuesday. 314 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,199 And another big day ahead as Ian arrives for work. 315 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:55,600 This is the day when top civil servant Fiona Craig 316 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:58,439 from the Department of Culture, Media and also Sport, 317 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,640 is due to arrive to see a normal morning at the BBC. 318 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,480 But already, things are starting to look anything but normal. 319 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:07,560 - Anna. - Yes, hi, yes. 320 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,120 - You’ve got a bike? - Yes, exactly, yes. 321 00:11:10,199 --> 00:11:11,439 Well, I mean, what can I say? 322 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,640 - Congratulations. - Yes, no, yes. 323 00:11:13,719 --> 00:11:16,400 Not only has Director of Better, Anna Rampton, 324 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,839 apparently decided to join Ian on two wheels, 325 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,920 but, like him, she’s gone for wheels that are theoretically at least foldable 326 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,240 if you were listening to the person in the shop who explained how to do it. 327 00:11:26,319 --> 00:11:28,319 I don’t wanna interfere, but do you want a hand with that? 328 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:29,880 Yes. No. The fact is that yes. 329 00:11:29,959 --> 00:11:30,880 Yeah, no, it’s really simple 330 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:32,400 - once you get the hang of it. - Yes, exactly, yes. 331 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,000 For Ian, this is a chance to demonstrate a range of skills 332 00:11:35,079 --> 00:11:38,680 acquired over many years of folding under all kinds of conditions, 333 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,439 whilst for Anna, this is a chance to stand quietly 334 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,400 and watch everything he does at close quarters. 335 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,360 - There you are. - Yes. 336 00:11:44,439 --> 00:11:45,719 - Yeah, it’s really easy. - Yes, um... 337 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:46,920 - So now I’ve... - Thank you. 338 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,839 No, no, that’s... But now that I’ve done it do you want me 339 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,079 - to undo it again so you can... - No. 340 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,640 - No, right. - No, the fact is I need to 341 00:11:51,719 --> 00:11:54,280 - change my shoes. - Right, yes. Okay, well. 342 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:56,760 - Oh, hi, Lucy. - Hi, yes. 343 00:11:56,839 --> 00:11:59,719 - Yes. - Anna’s just joined the club. 344 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,360 - Yes, good. - Yes, exactly, yes. 345 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:03,880 - Who’d have thought it? - Yes. 346 00:12:03,959 --> 00:12:06,000 Yes, so you’re all set for the Ryan Chelford... 347 00:12:06,079 --> 00:12:07,880 Yes. Really sorry, I’ve gotta go. 348 00:12:07,959 --> 00:12:09,079 Yes. 349 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,520 Right. Great. 350 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,040 This is also a big day for Lucy Freeman in her role, 351 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,040 at least at for the moment anyway, as Head of Inclusivity. 352 00:12:27,839 --> 00:12:28,640 Hi, Ryan. 353 00:12:28,719 --> 00:12:31,040 She’s come outside to meet Ryan Chelford, 354 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,719 who has arrived at New Broadcasting House by parking his Bentley Continental 355 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,319 almost directly outside it. 356 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,719 - Lovely car. - Yeah, it’s not bad. It does the job. 357 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:39,959 Do you know what I’m saying? 358 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,199 - How was your journey? - Yeah, no problem, yeah. 359 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,920 Came down last night, stayed with a mate in Rickmansworth. 360 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Right. 361 00:12:45,959 --> 00:12:47,800 Rickmansworth’s quite a long way out, isn't it? 362 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Well, I say a mate. He is a mate, but he’s got, like, a hotel. 363 00:12:51,439 --> 00:12:52,880 - Right. - Yeah. 364 00:12:52,959 --> 00:12:56,160 He’s here to talk about his future with the BBC Sport family, 365 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,880 as well as to reflect in some detail on his journey to this point. 366 00:12:59,959 --> 00:13:02,120 No, 'cause the smart move, what I’ve done is, yeah, 367 00:13:02,199 --> 00:13:05,680 I went back out on the M25 and back in again on the M1. 368 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,040 - Do you know what I’m saying? - Right. 369 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:10,839 I could’ve gone south and come back in on the M40, I admit that. 370 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,880 - Yes. - But I’m sorry for me that’s not a road. 371 00:13:12,959 --> 00:13:14,959 - No. - For me you’ve got cameras everywhere. 372 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,199 40 mile an hour restrictions. You know what I’m saying? 373 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,959 - You might as well be driving a horse. - Yes. 374 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,760 Well, shall I just get you signed in? Then we’ll just head on up. 375 00:13:20,839 --> 00:13:22,040 Yeah, sure, yeah. Nice one. 376 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,760 And my new agent’s supposed to be here. 377 00:13:24,199 --> 00:13:25,400 - I’m not seeing her. - Right. 378 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,560 I’m sorry, but for me she’s my agent, right? 379 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,040 She’s got a job to do, but for me she’s just not turned up. 380 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,760 - No, well, perhaps - Hi... 381 00:13:31,839 --> 00:13:33,680 - Ryan. - Yeah, hi. 382 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,000 - Faiza. - Oh, right. 383 00:13:35,079 --> 00:13:38,120 - Faiza Raja, Head of Diversity. - Yeah, no, Faiza. Yeah, nice one. 384 00:13:38,199 --> 00:13:40,880 - So great to meet you at last. - Yeah, you too. Yeah, you too. 385 00:13:40,959 --> 00:13:42,160 Thanks so much for coming in today. 386 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,000 - Hi, Faiza. - Yes. Hi, Lucy, yes. 387 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:47,199 But if Ryan’s agent may not have turned up for him for some reason, 388 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,000 current BBC Head of Diversity Faiza Raja, 389 00:13:50,079 --> 00:13:53,040 at least until Inclusivity and Diversity are reimagined 390 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,760 as a single new post of empowerment as part of the More Of Less initiative, 391 00:13:56,839 --> 00:13:58,319 definitely has. 392 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,439 - So you got here all right then, Ryan? - Yeah, no problem. 393 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,880 Parking space bang outside. 394 00:14:01,959 --> 00:14:03,400 - You drove? - Too right I did. 395 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:04,560 - Right. - Right, yes. 396 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,640 Although saying that, I came down last night and stayed with a mate 397 00:14:06,719 --> 00:14:07,520 in Rickmansworth. 398 00:14:07,599 --> 00:14:08,520 - Yes. - Rickmansworth? 399 00:14:08,599 --> 00:14:11,000 I know what you’re thinking, I say a mate but he’s got a hotel. 400 00:14:11,079 --> 00:14:12,360 - Right. - Yeah. 401 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,839 - Okay, what’s going on? - What’s going on? 402 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:17,800 You do know what’s happening this morning? 403 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:18,680 Of course, yes. 404 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,719 So, I mean I don’t mind, but I thought I’d sort of been dealing with this. 405 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,199 Yes, no, I’m sorry. The fact is with... 406 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,520 - Right, great... - Right, I’m in. 407 00:14:23,599 --> 00:14:25,160 - Yes. - Yes, right, well, shall we? 408 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,680 Woah, excuse my language girls, but what a fucking place! 409 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,439 - Well, you know. - It's like you're in a film. 410 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,959 - Yes. - All of a sudden, I’m fucking Tom Cruise, 411 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,120 - do you know what I’m saying? - Right. 412 00:14:34,199 --> 00:14:36,040 Your clothes, give them to me now. 413 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,240 - Yes. - Yes. 414 00:14:37,439 --> 00:14:39,280 Now listen, I don’t know how any of this stuff works, 415 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,040 but basically, as I understand it, that’s the old bit over there. 416 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,240 - Yes. - This is the new bit over here. 417 00:14:44,319 --> 00:14:46,479 - Yes. - And then this bit was basically built 418 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,479 - just to sort of join the two. - Obviously, yes. 419 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,000 Yes, no, obviously. Yes, no, very good. 420 00:14:50,079 --> 00:14:54,000 By 10 o’clock, Simon Harwood is already busy welcoming Fiona Craig 421 00:14:54,079 --> 00:14:57,040 from the Department of Culture, Media and also Sport, 422 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,479 who has arrived at New Broadcasting House together with two further women, 423 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,280 in order to observe a normal morning at the BBC. 424 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,520 If it helps, Tony sometimes refers to it as the mind-brain interface. 425 00:15:07,599 --> 00:15:08,479 All right, okay. 426 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:09,680 You know, one of his little things. 427 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,640 Do you know what? I’m not sure that does help though does it? 428 00:15:11,719 --> 00:15:12,520 Brilliant. 429 00:15:12,599 --> 00:15:13,959 If I’m being really honest with you, Simon. 430 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,079 Yes, no, of course, yes, no, very good. 431 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:15,959 Shall we go through? 432 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,319 Given the potential significance 433 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,400 of the charter renewal process, for the future of the BBC 434 00:15:20,479 --> 00:15:22,400 and everyone currently inside it, 435 00:15:22,479 --> 00:15:25,920 it’s important that the visiting delegation feel as comprehensively met 436 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,280 and greeted as possible. 437 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,319 - Fiona, hi. - Hi, yes. 438 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,199 - Ian. - Yes. 439 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,920 - Ian Fletcher. - Yes, no, Ian. I assumed as much. 440 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,800 - Well, it’s very good to meet you. - Yes, no, you too. 441 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,040 This is Chloe and Zoe. 442 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:34,920 - Right. - Hello. 443 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:35,800 - Hi. - Hello. 444 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,079 You’ll not be surprised to hear I’m forever getting them mixed up. 445 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,479 - Right. - But really they don’t seem to mind. 446 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,360 - No. - No. 447 00:15:40,439 --> 00:15:42,120 Right, good. You’ve met Simon then. 448 00:15:42,199 --> 00:15:43,280 Indeed we have Ian, yes. 449 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,360 - Yes. - Brilliant. 450 00:15:44,439 --> 00:15:46,199 Well, welcome to New Broadcasting House. 451 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:47,280 Yes. No, we’ve already done that bit. 452 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,400 - Oh, right, have you? - Yes. 453 00:15:48,479 --> 00:15:49,319 - Yes. - Fabulous. 454 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,000 - Well, what we... - Yes, hello, yes. 455 00:15:51,079 --> 00:15:52,880 - Oh, right, okay. Anna. - Yes, exactly, yes. 456 00:15:52,959 --> 00:15:55,439 As things turn out on this particular normal morning, 457 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,599 Anna Rampton also happens to be down in reception in her role 458 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,760 - as Director of Better. - This is Anna Rampton, Director of Better. 459 00:16:00,839 --> 00:16:02,199 - Oh, right. - Yes, exactly, yes. 460 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,520 Can I ask, Director of Better what, Anna? 461 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,240 - Yes, no, that... - Brilliant. 462 00:16:06,319 --> 00:16:07,680 The fact is, welcome to the BBC. 463 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,199 - No, we’ve already done that bit. - Yes. 464 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,079 - Yes. - Yes. 465 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,400 - Right, okay. - Good. 466 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,400 I mean, yes, I could’ve come by train without a doubt. 467 00:16:15,479 --> 00:16:17,280 - Yes. - But for me, if you’ve got a decent car 468 00:16:17,359 --> 00:16:19,240 - you bloody wanna drive somewhere. - Yes. 469 00:16:19,319 --> 00:16:20,800 I mean, it’s not like you can drive a train. 470 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,359 - No. - Okay, you can drive a train. 471 00:16:22,439 --> 00:16:24,479 I admit that. Like if you’re a train driver, 472 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,920 but, for me, if you’re driving a train you’re only ever going in one direction. 473 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,800 Do you know what I’m saying? 474 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:30,560 Meanwhile, up on the sixth floor, 475 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,800 Head of Inclusivity Lucy Freeman and Head of Diversity Faiza Raja 476 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,240 are leading Ryan Chelford towards his destiny. 477 00:16:37,319 --> 00:16:39,599 Sat on a train, drinking shit coffee with people you don’t know. 478 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,479 And with the single New Head of Empowerment role 479 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,359 set to replace both their current roles, quite possibly towards theirs. 480 00:16:45,719 --> 00:16:46,560 Clive. 481 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:47,880 - Oh, hi, Lucy. - Hi. 482 00:16:47,959 --> 00:16:49,240 - How are ya? - Yes, I’m good, thanks. 483 00:16:49,319 --> 00:16:50,800 - You made it then. - 'Fraid so, yeah. 484 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,000 - Great, so... - Clive, we’ve not met before. 485 00:16:53,079 --> 00:16:55,040 - Right. - Faiza. Faiza Raja, Head of Diversity. 486 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,280 - Oh, okay. - Yes. 487 00:16:56,359 --> 00:16:57,880 - Good to meet you. - Yeah, you too, you too. 488 00:16:57,959 --> 00:16:58,839 You know Ryan, of course. 489 00:16:58,920 --> 00:16:59,760 - Yup. - Yes. 490 00:16:59,839 --> 00:17:01,880 - Yeah, hi, yeah. - Clive Cook, BBC Head of Football. 491 00:17:01,959 --> 00:17:02,880 Yeah, the main man. 492 00:17:02,959 --> 00:17:05,079 - Well, let's not... - El misseurino le gaffer. 493 00:17:05,159 --> 00:17:06,359 - What? - Nice one. 494 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,440 Okay, so we’re in Mary Berry I think. 495 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,680 - Oh, are we? - Yes, so... 496 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,159 - Well, no. - I thought it was Frankie Howard? 497 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,480 - Yes. - I booked Mary Berry. 498 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:13,960 - Right. - No, I booked Frankie Howard. 499 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,680 - Well, I’m sorry... - Has anyone booked a band? 500 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,319 - What? - At this rate we could have quite a party. 501 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,079 One of the distinctive features 502 00:17:21,159 --> 00:17:25,319 of the BBCs intelligent syncopatispace room booking software, 503 00:17:25,399 --> 00:17:27,200 is that if two people book different rooms 504 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:32,159 at exactly the same time and under exactly the same subject heading, it crashes. 505 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,040 I have, I’ve pressed it twice and I... 506 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:35,520 - Shall we try mine? - Fortunately however, 507 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,919 Head of Communications Tracy Pritchard has arrived to help. 508 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,639 Yes, we just thought it might be interesting for you to meet him and to, 509 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,159 just to get a sense of how someone like him fits into our family. 510 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,200 - Yes, exactly, yes. - Meanwhile, 511 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,960 really not very far away now, 512 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,879 the visiting delegation from the DCM and, also, S is getting closer 513 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,919 almost by the yard. 514 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:53,919 I think I’m right in saying that Ryan has already arrived. 515 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,280 Brilliant. 516 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:58,000 Ah, yes, so this... actually I might just, uh... 517 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,440 Will you excuse me if I just, uh... 518 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,480 Tracy, hi, yes. 519 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,560 Yes, I know, we’re just coming towards you now. 520 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:04,560 Right. 521 00:18:04,639 --> 00:18:06,919 They may be walking towards a potential disaster, 522 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,800 but luckily potential disasters are one of Tracy Pritchard’s key areas of expertise. 523 00:18:11,879 --> 00:18:13,520 Anyway, at the moment, they’re both locked. 524 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,720 - Right. - Like we physically can’t get in. 525 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,800 Right. - I don't know where Faiza’s appeared from. 526 00:18:17,879 --> 00:18:19,680 Right. - I’m not being negative or anything, 527 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,840 but I have got a very bad feeling about this. 528 00:18:21,919 --> 00:18:23,600 Right. - I’ve gotta say, Ian, 529 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,800 from where I’m standing this has all the makings of a category A, 530 00:18:26,879 --> 00:18:30,720 - 100% platinum standard fuck up. - Okay, fine. Thanks Tracy, that’s great. 531 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,280 Okay. Good. 532 00:18:42,919 --> 00:18:43,840 All right. Just... 533 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,399 Ryan, hi. 534 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:47,840 Yeah, hiya, yeah. 535 00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:48,840 - Ian Fletcher. - Yeah. 536 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,919 - Good to see you again. - Yeah, nice one, Ian, yeah. 537 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,480 - Thanks for coming in today. - Yeah, no worries, Ian, yeah. 538 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,480 My new agent’s supposed to be here somewhere. 539 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,040 But do you know what? For me, she’s just not turned up. 540 00:18:58,120 --> 00:18:58,919 Right. 541 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,440 Well, let me just make a few introductions first. 542 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,520 So this is Fiona Craig from the Department of Culture, Media, 543 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,480 - and interestingly enough, also Sport. - Nice one. 544 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,639 With the possible exception of the person at the centre of it, 545 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,919 everyone involved in the meeting understands not only 546 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,399 how important it is that it runs smoothly, 547 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,080 but also how remote a prospect that is given the number of people involved. 548 00:19:17,159 --> 00:19:20,360 And finally, Tracy Pritchard, Senior Communications person. 549 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,240 - Yes. - Hello. 550 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,240 Can I just say, Fiona, welcome... 551 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,320 No, the fact is we’ve done that. 552 00:19:24,399 --> 00:19:25,200 - All right. - Yes. 553 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,080 - Yes. - Yes. 554 00:19:26,159 --> 00:19:27,879 But not being able to say with any certainty 555 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,919 where the meeting actually is, isn’t an ideal start. 556 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,639 Right, okay, well, we’re in Nadia Hussain I think, aren’t we? 557 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,800 - Uh, we... - Yea...yes. 558 00:19:35,879 --> 00:19:38,040 - Nadia Hussain? - I think so yes, so that’s all good. 559 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:40,240 Yes. No, brilliant. Now listen, I’m going to have to leave you guys Iā€˜m afraid. 560 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,120 Oh, right. 561 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,000 - If that’s gonna be... - Yes, fine. 562 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:43,919 And frankly rather a Tony facing morning, if you... 563 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,600 - No, that’s good for us really. - Right. 564 00:19:45,679 --> 00:19:46,480 - Yes. - Yes. 565 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,639 Fabulously exciting to meet you. 566 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,040 - Yes, you too. - And don’t take any nonsense 567 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,679 - from these guys okay? - That we won't, Simon. 568 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,240 Brilliant. Uh, right. 569 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:53,639 Good-o. 570 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,760 - Right, okay. - Okay, so if everyone would just like 571 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,720 to follow me? 572 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,159 How’s it going? 573 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,159 - How’s it going? - Yes. 574 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,919 I feel like I want to cry. 575 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,200 It’ll be fine, okay? It’s gonna be absolutely fine. 576 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,240 Not if I cry I won’t. 577 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,000 You won’t cry. Question of Sport was your idea. 578 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,840 It’s a brilliant solution, okay? 579 00:20:10,919 --> 00:20:13,360 Should have been bloody Top Gear and then bloody cars! 580 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,480 Yes, well, we only keep that for emergency use if I were you. 581 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,080 - Yes. - Right, okay. 582 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:20,159 Eventually, the routine meeting with Ryan Chelford 583 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,600 is inexorably under way. 584 00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:23,679 Okay, well, so just to say officially then: 585 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,560 - welcome to Ryan. - Yes, exactly, yes. 586 00:20:25,639 --> 00:20:26,520 - Yes. - Hey. 587 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:32,200 And also welcome to Fiona, Chloe and Zoe from the DCM and, also, S, 588 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,280 even though, for the purposes of this they’re not actually here of course. 589 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:36,440 Exactly so, Ian. 590 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,480 - No. - No. 591 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:38,679 Well, what do you mean they’re not here? 592 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,760 Right, okay, so I suppose the first thing to say... 593 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,639 Hey, guys. 594 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,399 - Oh, right. - Oh, yeah, nice to meet ya. 595 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:44,639 - Hey, Siobhan. - Hey. 596 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,639 - You look gorgeous. - Oh, right, okay. 597 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,399 But just when it looks as if everything might be 598 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,600 under control again, 599 00:20:49,679 --> 00:20:53,720 it suddenly become clear that following his recent rise to social media eminence, 600 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,240 Ryan Chelford has signed to Fun Media, that Siobhan Sharpe is now his new agent 601 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,080 and that, in her mind, the future is gender fluid. 602 00:21:01,159 --> 00:21:03,240 Literally sitting on the next Gayson Perry here, right? 603 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,440 - Yes. - Grayson Perry. 604 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,040 No, sure, exactly. It’s a no-brainer. 605 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:09,280 Yes, so I was just saying Siobhan, perhaps the first thing to say is, 606 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:12,840 how excited we are at the prospect of working with Ryan here at the BBC. 607 00:21:12,919 --> 00:21:14,040 - Yes. - Yay! 608 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:15,639 I mean, certainly from an empowerment point of view. 609 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,520 - Yes, exactly. - Yes. 610 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,480 Go, Ryan. 611 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,919 Yes, so I guess the practical question, 612 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,720 aside from the bigger issues for a moment, 613 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,679 is how and where best to employ Ryan’s talents within the many things 614 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:25,639 that the BBC does. 615 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,639 - Yes, exactly. - Yes. 616 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,120 - Cool. - I mean, Clive... 617 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,919 - Yeah? - I know you’ve got some thoughts about 618 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,000 how you see Ryan’s role in relation to Match of the Day itself. 619 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,560 Yeah. So obviously we were lucky enough to have Ryan on our midweek 620 00:21:36,639 --> 00:21:38,120 FA Cup third round highlight package. 621 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,200 - Yes. - No worries. 622 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,240 But we found... 623 00:21:40,679 --> 00:21:44,360 We debrief after every show, obviously, and we found ourselves asking 624 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,040 whether Match of the Day represents the best possible fit 625 00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:49,639 for Ryan’s talents going forward. 626 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,000 - Right, okay. - Yes. 627 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,360 - So if that’s the case... - No, I’m sorry guys. Sorry, Clive. 628 00:21:53,439 --> 00:21:55,000 - What are you saying there? - Yes, exactly. 629 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,240 I mean, 'cause for me, I’m sat here, I’ve drove all the way down from Cheshire 630 00:21:58,320 --> 00:21:59,120 do you know what I’m saying? 631 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,120 - Yes. - You so have. 632 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,520 Though saying that I did stay with a mate in Rickmansworth last night. 633 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:03,919 Right. 634 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,040 No, this is very much about exploring possibilities 635 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:09,360 and being prepared to go beyond the obvious to make sure we get this right. 636 00:22:09,439 --> 00:22:10,520 - Yes. - Exactly, yes. 637 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,399 - Totally. - Yes. 638 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,200 So very much with that spirit in mind, 639 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,240 Lucy has come up with what we think is potentially a really interesting idea. 640 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,240 - Yes. - All right. 641 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,879 - Well, no. - I’ve gotta say, I agree. 642 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,159 I won’t say any more, I’ll let Lucy talk us through it. 643 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,040 Yes. 644 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:24,960 But we’d be very interested to see what you think. 645 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,000 Okay. Nice one. 646 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Okay... 647 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,040 - Well, no... - Sorry, Lucy. Sorry, Ian, 648 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:31,320 but just to check this isn’t A Question of Sport is it? 649 00:22:31,399 --> 00:22:33,480 Well I mean yes, what? - A Question of Sport? 650 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,040 - Well, perhaps... - What, do you mean with 651 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:36,240 - Sue what’s-her-name? - Exactly. 652 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,200 I mean, I’m sorry, the fact is I just don’t think that’s gonna work. 653 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,000 - Well, that’s... - The fact is we’re talking about over 654 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,360 half a million followers on Twitter now. A lot of them in the LGBT community. 655 00:22:44,439 --> 00:22:45,560 - Yes. - Yay! 656 00:22:45,639 --> 00:22:47,360 This isn’t about hiding him away on a quiz show. 657 00:22:47,439 --> 00:22:49,439 - No, no. - The fact is, this is about having a face, 658 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,720 like Ryan’s face, as a regular presence on a show like the Match of the Day. 659 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,679 - Yes, exactly. - Yes. 660 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,120 - Okay, cool. - Right, okay. 661 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:56,520 Let's do it, let's do this thing. 662 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,960 I mean, Clive, given what you’ve said already I don’t know 663 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,280 - what your reaction is to that as a... - Yeah, so I think probably 664 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:05,040 the thing to say about that is, from our point of view, it’s not going to happen. 665 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,639 - Right, okay. - Yes, I’ve gotta say guys, I thought so. 666 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Bummer. 667 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,200 Yeah, hey, this is me on my bike. 668 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,439 This is me on my bike. 669 00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:15,200 Meanwhile, elsewhere, 670 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,600 Development Executive Izzy Gould is busy reviewing developments 671 00:23:18,679 --> 00:23:21,560 with what was On Your Bike before it’s recent transformation 672 00:23:21,639 --> 00:23:23,320 into someone else's idea. 673 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,040 Hey. 674 00:23:26,439 --> 00:23:27,320 Oh, hi. 675 00:23:27,399 --> 00:23:28,240 It's not bad is it? 676 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,800 - What are you doing here? - Nothing. 677 00:23:29,879 --> 00:23:31,040 - What do you want? - Brought you coffee. 678 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:31,919 - Coffee? - Yes. 679 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,120 - What for? - I dunno, to drink I guess. 680 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,240 Unless you wanna do something else with it? 681 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:39,520 - Can I sit here for a minute? - There’s someone there. 682 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,840 No, I know. Just for a minute, that’s all. 683 00:23:40,919 --> 00:23:42,360 I won’t even put my coffee down. Look. 684 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,720 So, David Wilks has somehow managed to set up a meeting with Matt Taverner 685 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,600 and Siobhan Sharpe about the BBC Me launch, 686 00:23:48,679 --> 00:23:50,040 - I mean, about everything. - Right. 687 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:51,159 So I’m gonna go. 688 00:23:55,159 --> 00:23:56,520 And what about Will? 689 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:57,760 - Will. - Yes. 690 00:23:58,120 --> 00:23:59,520 Just come to the meeting, okay? 691 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:01,480 Why wouldn’t you? 692 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,879 I mean, I’m sorry, but this isn’t actually 693 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,360 - about diversity is it? - No, I’m sorry... 694 00:24:11,439 --> 00:24:14,000 On which, by the way, I’m very proud of our record on Match of the Day. 695 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,240 I’m sorry, the fact is, 696 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,560 this is really about empowerment. 697 00:24:16,639 --> 00:24:17,560 - Exactly. - Okay. 698 00:24:17,639 --> 00:24:18,480 - Yes. - Yes. 699 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,280 I mean, I thought we were supposed to be on the same side here, aren't we? 700 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:21,200 - Well, yes. - Yes. 701 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,399 Can I just say, guys, I certainly am. 702 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,480 Yeah, you don’t wanna start arguing with yourselves. 703 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,960 - No, well... - I mean, I’m sorry, for me, 704 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:27,879 that’s poor thinking. 705 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,320 Back in Nadia Hussain, 706 00:24:29,399 --> 00:24:31,840 things are getting more normal virtually by the minute. 707 00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:34,000 With respect, Clive, the fact is it’s not for you to say 708 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,560 what is and isn’t an empowerment issue. 709 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,560 In this particular case I think it is. 710 00:24:37,639 --> 00:24:39,639 In this particular case it absolutely isn’t. 711 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,320 - Yes, it is. - Okay, so we’ve got both sides 712 00:24:41,399 --> 00:24:43,879 of the argument pretty much nailed down now, so that’s all good. 713 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,360 - Cool. - As Head of Values, 714 00:24:45,439 --> 00:24:47,879 Ian is aware that the last thing that needs to happen 715 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,480 is for the BBC’s current Head of Diversity 716 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,439 to have a full scale argument about a cross-dressing presenter 717 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,280 with the BBC Head of Football in front of a visiting team 718 00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:59,520 from the Department of Culture, Media and also Sport. 719 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,600 I mean, it seems to me, Faiza, that your point is about having a face 720 00:25:02,679 --> 00:25:04,120 like Ryan’s on a flagship show, 721 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,800 which you could argue has been too narrowly gendered up to now. 722 00:25:06,879 --> 00:25:08,320 - Exactly, yes. - Yes, exactly, yes. 723 00:25:08,399 --> 00:25:11,639 And Clive’s point is that Match of the Day itself may not actually 724 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,120 be the most effective context in which to address this issue. 725 00:25:14,199 --> 00:25:15,800 - Yeah, is it? - Yes. I think so, yes. 726 00:25:15,879 --> 00:25:16,840 Right, okay. 727 00:25:16,919 --> 00:25:19,520 No, 'cause I’m just thinking, Lucy, the other idea you had, of course, 728 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,879 knowing Ryan’s interests and strengths 729 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,199 and you might want to say more about how you came to this, 730 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,840 was whether there might be a role for him somewhere in Top Gear. 731 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,520 - Yes, uh... - Top Gear? 732 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:30,800 - Yes, no. - You’re kidding me? 733 00:25:30,879 --> 00:25:32,399 - Blimey. - Holy shit. 734 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,600 - I just wondered whether... - Sure. 735 00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:35,159 I wondered whether that might be 736 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,240 - an interesting thing. - Sure. 737 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,399 I mean, for Top Gear too, I mean. 738 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,320 - Yes. - No, sure, I'd totally watch that. 739 00:25:39,399 --> 00:25:41,800 I mean, you’ve gotta say, guys, whatever you think of Top Gear, 740 00:25:41,879 --> 00:25:43,439 and obviously I never watch it myself, 741 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,800 - but that really is a big idea. - Well, yes. 742 00:25:45,879 --> 00:25:47,639 I mean, obviously there’d be some in-house issues 743 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,199 we’d have to navigate our way through. 744 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,320 - Yes, no, but in principle... - In principle, yes. 745 00:25:51,399 --> 00:25:52,280 Cool! 746 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:53,879 And you know, it’s our job to think big thoughts 747 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,520 and maybe that’s something you might be able to help with anyway, Anna? 748 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,240 Yes, exactly, yes. 749 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,760 - I mean, Ryan... - I mean, I love this. 750 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,919 I totally love it when this shit happens. 751 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,800 And yes, so Ryan, I mean I don’t know what you're in... 752 00:26:04,879 --> 00:26:05,679 Okay, for me, right, 753 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,080 excuse my language, right, I’m sorry, but Lisa, I bloody love you. 754 00:26:09,159 --> 00:26:10,560 - Well, no... - I mean, you’ve come here, 755 00:26:10,639 --> 00:26:12,040 you’ve sat there, you’ve said nothing... 756 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:14,199 Just, it was something I think I could see working, that’s all. 757 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,919 That for me is top, top thinking. 758 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,760 - Yep, me too, yeah. - Right, well... 759 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,320 - Good job, guys. - And so, we move on. 760 00:26:19,399 --> 00:26:22,399 So, can I just say, 'cause I know we’re not supposed to be here 761 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,520 I don’t know what it was like for you guys, 762 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,919 but this is probably the most fun we’ve had in quite some time, isn't it, girls? 763 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,080 - Yes. - Yes. 764 00:26:30,159 --> 00:26:32,040 Right, so yes, potentially then, that’s all good. 765 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:33,120 - Yes. - Yes. 766 00:26:49,879 --> 00:26:50,840 Oh, hi. 767 00:26:50,919 --> 00:26:52,159 - Yes, hi, yes. - Yes. 768 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,399 - Doors open. - Eventually it’s the end 769 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,360 of the day. 770 00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:58,000 With yet another potential disaster at the last moment 771 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,679 somehow turned into a potential solution. 772 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,800 You know, I suppose the main thing is we got through another day. 773 00:27:02,879 --> 00:27:04,000 - Yes. - If that’s a good thing? 774 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,960 Yes. 775 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,480 Forgive me asking and obviously it’s none of my business 776 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,040 but have you decided what you’re doing yet? 777 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,760 - About? - You know, with the job and... 778 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,080 Oh, right, yes, um... 779 00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:14,120 It’s also a day which has left Lucy thoughtful 780 00:27:14,199 --> 00:27:17,120 about whether to apply for the new Head of Empowerment post, 781 00:27:17,199 --> 00:27:20,720 or to embrace the new More Of Less initiative even more enthusiastically 782 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,000 by leaving altogether. 783 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,760 I didn’t really want to apply for the job I’ve got. 784 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,560 - Well, no, I remember. - Never mind this one. 785 00:27:25,639 --> 00:27:26,960 You were gonna work in a garden centre. 786 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,000 Yes. 787 00:27:28,399 --> 00:27:30,320 Yeah, I dunno, like I think it’s gonna be easier like to start again. 788 00:27:30,399 --> 00:27:31,199 Yes, all right. 789 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,240 But it turns out that Lucy isn’t the only one 790 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,199 with a knotty problem to grapple with. 791 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,080 Hi. 792 00:27:36,159 --> 00:27:37,919 - Yeah, hi, yeah. - Yes, hi, yes. 793 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,199 - Hi, Anna. - Yes, exactly. 794 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,399 - Everything okay? - Yes. 795 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,240 Yeah, I dunno like I’ve never seen one do this before. 796 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,600 - Well, I would offer to help but... - Yes. 797 00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:45,679 - I think Will’s probably... - Yeah, no worries here, cool. 798 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,960 Yes, exactly, you can go now. 799 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,199 - Yeah, no, but... - Thank you. 800 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,560 - Okay. - Right, um... 801 00:27:49,639 --> 00:27:50,960 - Yes. - I mean, I really don’t want to 802 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,439 - interfere, Will. - Yeah, no worries here, yeah. 803 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,639 Yes, exactly, yes. 804 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,560 - Okay. - Right, uh... 805 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,639 For Ian, after a long day, 806 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,159 this is a chance to demonstrate just how rapidly you can transform 807 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,720 an apparently random arrangement of steel, rubber, handlebars and other things 808 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,560 into a completely different arrangement twice its real size 809 00:28:08,639 --> 00:28:10,080 if you really want to. 810 00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:11,280 Just the pedal there. 811 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:12,919 There that’s it and there you go, done. 812 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,399 - Yes, thank you. - Okay, well... 813 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,360 Yes. 814 00:28:15,439 --> 00:28:17,520 - Don’t forget helmet and lights. - Yeah, no, exactly, no. 815 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,040 Wouldn’t want anything to happen to you. 816 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:20,600 - Yes. - Okay. 817 00:28:20,679 --> 00:28:21,639 Thank you. 818 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,960 - Shall I just... - Yes, exactly, yes. 819 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,439 Okay, there you go. 820 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:27,320 Yes. 821 00:28:27,399 --> 00:28:28,240 See you tomorrow. 822 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,720 Yes, exactly, yes. 823 00:28:39,639 --> 00:28:41,120 Oh, right, okay. 824 00:28:41,959 --> 00:28:43,199 Good. 68287

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