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Standby, two.
Mix through. Cue on two.
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The BBC has
announced the appointment
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of ex-head of Olympic
Deliverance, Ian Fletcher,
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as its new Head of Values.
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Time now for
the Shipping Forecast.
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Superimpose.
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A new week
at the BBC's central nervous
centre in central London,
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but already
it hasn't started well
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for Head of Values,
Ian Fletcher.
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With just a mile left to cover
on his journey to work,
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he's had a puncture
in the Marylebone Road.
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But the advantage
of a bike that you can
simply fold up and carry
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is that you can simply
fold it up and carry it
for the rest of the way.
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Will.
Oh, yeah, hi, yeah, hi.
How are you?
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I'm in a bit of a hurry,
actually, I'm a bit late. Okay.
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I was wondering, if you
have any time today...
Yeah, sure.
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...you know,
between other things. Yeah.
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I had a puncture
on my way in this morning.
Okay, cool.
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And I was wondering...
Yeah, no worries.
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Yeah, 'cause I could take
it to this really cool
bike shop I used to work in.
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Right.
I know exactly where it is.
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Yes, so if... You used to
work at a bike shop?
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Yeah, for, like, three days.
Right. Well...
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Yeah, 'cause like, then like,
if I get it mended,
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does that mean I could,
like, ride it back?
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Yes, I mean... Cool.
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Obviously,
that'll be up to you.
Yeah, up to me, cool.
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That'd be really great,
Will, thanks.
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You can take my helmet
if you want to.
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Okay, cool, yeah, no worries.
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Yeah, 'cause, it's like,
you don't want to get killed.
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No.
Cool.
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So the other exciting news to
get out there this morning... Yay.
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Shut up.
And I've been talking
to Siobhan about this.
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Oh, right?
You so have.
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And the feeling is,
and for what it's worth,
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I know Tony's
pretty spunky about this.
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Spunky?
He's totally amped.
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What?
Hi.
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Oh, thank God!
Sorry.
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No, Captain Values,
come on in.
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A few transport issues
this morning.
Gah, no, bad luck.
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With the creation of the new
Directorship of Betterness
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at an extremely senior level,
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the question now is how best
to announce that idea
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to a so-far
unsuspecting public.
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Okay, so here's the thing
with this. Here's what it is.
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BBC Better
is such a cool idea.
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It's like a game changer,
okay? That's a no-brainer.
Brilliant.
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But you want buy-in to
the idea of, like, major shit.
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I mean, you've got to pre-sell
the movie rights first.
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What?
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But luckily
for the BBC,
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pre-selling the movie rights
to major shit
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is one of PR company
Perfect Curve's
key areas of strength.
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The fact is, this would be
some kind of event, would it?
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Some kind of event?
Yes.
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Yes, 'cause what we have done
in the past,
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which I've got to say
works quite well,
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we have used the Radio Theatre
for things like this.
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Excuse me?
It's convenient, obviously.
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The Radio Theatre?
Yes.
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We're talking, like,
majorly iconic venues here.
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It's becoming
clear that Siobhan has
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ambitious plans for launching
the idea of BBC Better.
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I mean, just to
introduce a note of caution
for a moment, Siobhan.
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Yes, exactly, Ian.
It is a BBC-sponsored event
we're talking about here.
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Sure.
We're a publicly
funded organisation.
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After all, it's not
the Brit Awards.
No, it is not.
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Okay. So what's
your point here?
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Well, we may need
to be a bit careful
about tone, that's all.
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Yes, exactly.
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We don't want to get
ahead of ourselves.
Excuse me.
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Well, I just...
So, where else do
you want to be?
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I mean, do you want
to be behind yourself?
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I mean, you could
not have just said that.
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Can I just say,
speaking personally
on this, guys,
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I still think
the Radio Theatre
has a lot of...
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Well, let's not get...
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Okay, two words you don't want
to hear anywhere near
event management,
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radio and theatre.
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I'm guessing you haven't
actually been in there,
Siobhan, 'cause it's...
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Okay.
You can actually adjust
the lighting in there.
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Here are some words
you do want to hear
in event management
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in, like, the 20th century...
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Twenty-first century.
Okay, sure, whatever.
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Just a detail.
Like, now, okay?
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Well, exactly, yes, right.
Okay, so like, "groovy"
and, like, "function".
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Brilliant.
Like, "champagne"
and like, "reception".
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Yes, very good.
"Cool" and, like,
"brainy-dudes".
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Like, "major"
and, like, "auditorium".
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Like, "Laura" and "Mvula".
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And "Twitter" and, like,
"total meltdown" okay?
Brilliant.
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Now, that's an event. Okay?
Right.
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No, yes, no.
Yes, too joyous.
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Then Anna Rampton walks out
on that stage on her own
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and she totally,
seriously kills. Brilliant.
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Bollocks.
Go, Anna.
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Yes, no, the fact is,
I... Yes.
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Hi, Will.
Oh, yeah. Hey, Izzy.
Yeah, cool.
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You all right? You look like
you're off somewhere.
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Yeah, yeah.
With Ian Fletcher's bike.
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Yeah, I know, yeah,
pretty cool. I'm taking it
to get it mended?
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Okay.
Yeah, it's got,
like, a puncture.
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Right, well, have fun.
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Yeah, no worries, yeah,
this is his helmet.
Yes, right.
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Yeah, so I'll
probably ride it back.
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Okay, well, thanks for,
you know, bringing me
up to speed with all that.
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Yeah, no, no worries,
yeah, cool.
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Yes?
So, like, where's Jack?
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Oh, no, Jack's gone. Yes.
He's gone?
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No, he's moved on.
So what, like, left?
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No, with Anna's new job,
he's got this new thing
with her now.
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With Anna.
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Off in Development, yes.
Yeah, Development, yeah.
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Yes.
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Okay, cool.
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Elsewhere in the building, long-serving
Producer Lucy Freeman
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has been thinking hard
about her future at the BBC
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and has decided to
make herself a cup of coffee.
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Oh, David.
Hi, Lucy. How are you today?
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Yes, fine, yes.
I didn't see you there.
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No, I know. I'm just
getting my slow release.
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Yes, so I see.
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Can I just ask you,
have you lost weight?
Me?
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Yes.
No, I...
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Have you not?
No, I don't think so. Why?
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I don't know.
Do you know what?
Maybe it's just those jeans.
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Honestly, you're
so lucky, Lucy.
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What exactly do you want,
David, 'cause I'm
finding this a bit...
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No, no, nothing, Lucy,
I don't want anything.
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Anyway, I'm not supposed
to tell anyone anyway, so... Right.
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You know.
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Tell them what?
So, I had a meeting
with Anna last night,
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and she asked to see me.
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Apparently, when she first
mentioned One Big Family
in the interview...
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Oh, my God, that's such
a genius title, Lucy.
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Honestly, when she talked
about it, they were like,
"Oh, my God,
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"we haven't even got enough
boxes for that to tick."
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Good. Well, I'm really
pleased for her.
I know, lovely Anna.
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Anyway, then she's like,
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"Right, first of all,
that show is going
to be massive, okay.
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"And you're going to
exec produce it."
Well, no, hang on...
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Me, I mean.
Oh, right.
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Honestly. It was
like I was being
enunciated or something.
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Is that the right word?
No, it isn't.
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No, it doesn't matter though,
does it? It sounds right. Yes.
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And anyway, then she's like,
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"This is absolutely top secret
and you're not
to tell anybody at all."
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No.
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"There's going to be
lots of changes.
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"And there's going to be,
like, this new job,
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"like, Senior Executive,
Primetime Factuality."
Right.
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"And basically, I mean,
they're going to have
to interview for that,
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"how they're gonna do
that I do not know,
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"but basically they'd
like it to be you."
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You mean you.
Me, yes. No, yes.
Yes, no. Me.
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Well, that's great, David,
I mean, that's really great.
I know.
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I mean, I'm not sure
what else to say.
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Couldn't believe it.
No, it is truly astonishing.
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I went straight over into
All Bar One afterwards
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and the three flaming
volcanoes straight off. Really.
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Didn't know
what else to do. No.
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That's not centred.
No, I'm just doing it.
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Yes.
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You didn't like the idea
of Steve Coogan?
No.
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I just thought that
might be, like...
No, I don't want him.
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Meanwhile,
Anna is acclimatising
quickly to her even more
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elevated role as the BBC's
first ever Director of Better.
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And with Lord Reith?
Yes.
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'Cause apparently he was
like the first ever...
Yes, no, I saw the pictures.
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No, the fact is,
he's too frightening.
Right, sure, yes.
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But with great power
comes great responsibility,
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and her first task has been to
launch a thorough review of
the back wall of her office.
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Okay, right. Well, that's...
Yes. Good.
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Oh, yeah, great news
about the Better launch. Yes.
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Like, I've never actually been
to Pinewood,
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but it sounds like Siobhan's
really pulling out all the...
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Yes. Exactly, yes.
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Yeah, so I bumped into
Alice in the coffee queue.
Alice?
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Alice, Tony Hall's...
Yes, the... Alice, yes, her.
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Yeah, so with
the BBC Better launch... Yes.
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She was talking about
the idea of releasing, like,
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bits of your speech
to the press beforehand.
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Before it.
Apparently that's,
like, standard.
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Mmm.
Also she thought Tony
would probably want to have
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a quick look at a draft before
you actually finalise it.
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Yes, so I... Yes.
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I said we'd send
something over.
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Yes.
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It was fine, first thing.
I mean, obviously,
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anything to with
Syncopatico's always a bit... Yeah.
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But at some point during
the morning, I seem to have
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got all your events
in my Syncopatical.
Yeah, no, crap.
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Meanwhile,
in his new official capacity
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as assistant
to the Head of Values,
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Will is already making
a big difference
to Ian's working life.
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In the meantime, I don't know
where my events have gone. Yeah.
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They've disappeared completely.
Yeah, no, they're all here.
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What?
Yeah, no, it does that.
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Keen to learn,
he's passed the first half
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of the crucial
Syncopatishare module
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of his ongoing BBC
Syncopatico induction course
with flying colours.
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But until he's done
the second half,
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he's unable to stop
his new Syncopatipad
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shaking hands automatically
with other devices that
may stray into its sights.
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I mean, I know it's
not your fault, Will. Yeah.
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Although, actually,
now I think about it,
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I'm not sure
I am sure about that.
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Yeah, I know, crap.
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But this is really...
Yeah, no, cool.
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Yeah, no worries.
Like why don't
you just have mine?
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What?
I'll have yours, just till,
like, something happens.
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Right, but...
I've only just
thought of that.
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Yes, I know, I can tell.
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But even though
he's still new to
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some of the responsibilities
of a personal assistant,
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Will is not afraid
of having big ideas.
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No, I don't think...
I mean, what if this
starts shaking hands
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with other tablets
all over the place?
Yeah.
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Oh, now, hang on,
what the hell's this?
What?
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You've got some of
Simon Harwood's stuff as well. Yeah.
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Look, no, I'm sorry.
Will, I can't...
I mean this is really...
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'Cause, like, I had to go
into Simon Harwood's
office earlier.
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I was looking for Izzy
and, like, it shook
hands with him too.
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Yes.
And then it stopped
again when I went.
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Mmm.
Yeah, I don't know,
yeah, mental.
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No.
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Like, it's actually
really annoying.
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So does this...
I mean, could I?
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If I wanted to, I mean,
would I be able
to print this out?
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Yeah, no worries, yeah, cool.
So, what? I just...
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Yeah, no, 'cause we did
Syncopatiprint last week.
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You sure about this, Will?
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Yeah, no, 'cause, like,
you can print to any printer
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anywhere in the building,
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like it doesn't matter
where you are.
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'Cause I wouldn't necessarily
want anyone else to...
Yeah, no, cool. Yeah.
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Okay, done. Cool. Great.
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Yeah, no worries.
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So where's it printing?
Yeah, no, 'cause...
Say again?
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Which printer's
it printing at?
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Yeah, no,
it doesn't tell you that.
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It doesn't tell you?
Like, it could be literally
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any printer anywhere
in the building.
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Right.
Yeah, no, it's pretty cool.
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Yes.
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Sorry, Anna. Jack.
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Lucy's here if you're ready.
Yes, no, she can come in.
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Here she is.
Right, yes. Hi, Anna.
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Yes, you can sit down.
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Meanwhile,
Lucy Freeman has
made a big decision
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and has come
to have a conversation
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with new Director of Better,
Anna Rampton,
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no matter how difficult
that's going to be.
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So, you're probably wondering
why I wanted to see you.
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Yes, I mean, well,
it was me that asked
to see you, actually.
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Okay, well...
Oh, congratulations,
by the way.
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Yes.
Very exciting.
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Yes, exactly. Yes.
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Yes, no, I thought I'd better
come and see you, really, now.
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I mean, before things...
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'Cause I know you were
keen for me help David with...
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Anna has asked her
to work alongside David Wilkes
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on One Big Family,
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but Lucy has decided
that it might be a better idea
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for her to leave
the BBC instead.
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I've been doing some thinking,
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quite a lot
of thinking, actually,
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and what I've... It's a
big thing, but I've...
Okay, no.
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No, sorry, Anna, I haven't...
No, that's not what I want
to talk to you about.
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No, I wanted to talk to you.
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Well, but the fact remains
it's not what I want
to talk about.
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The fact is, I wanted to
ask you something.
Yes, but...
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I don't know how much
you know about the idea
behind BBC Better.
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Right, well...
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I mean, I'm aware
of it, obviously.
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I've heard about it,
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but beyond that
I'm not really...
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No. One of the things
I'm passionate about
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is the idea of inclusivity
as a core value
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right across the BBC.
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Right. Are you?
Yes.
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You may know that already.
No, I didn't.
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As you say,
it's very exciting.
Well, I mean, that's...
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I made it clear that
I'm committed to the idea
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of creating a new
Head of Inclusivity.
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Right, are you?
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Yes, and I wanted to ask
you how you'd feel about
applying for that post.
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Me?
Yes, exactly, yes.
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Right.
Yes.
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Take your time.
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Uh...
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Meanwhile,
Ian is one of many people
in New Broadcasting House
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who have been brought
closer together by
the BBC's cutting edge
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new Syncopatiprint technology.
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Neil, hi.
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Right.
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When?
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We're talking live here.
Yes, no, I know.
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Yeah, live, yeah.
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No, brilliant, Neil.
Let's do the show right here.
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Media reaction
to the announcement
of Newsnight anchor
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Evan Davis's forthcoming role
in Strictly Come Dancing
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has been both extensive
and universally negative.
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And with the BBC's
unparalleled reputation
for impartiality to maintain,
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it's crucial that
coverage of the story
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on its own news channels
is more negative
than anyone else's.
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I mean, do we really
have to do this?
Yeah, we do, yeah.
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I know.
Welcome to my world.
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With that in mind,
Ian has been put forward to be
interviewed about the issue
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live on tonight's
6:00 news bulletin.
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No, look, I mean,
I'll do this if absolutely
no one else will.
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Brilliant.
But really, I have to say,
I'm not really sure why me.
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Listen, you guys all know
how you want to play this,
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but people actually like
the idea of the BBC
having values.
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Yeah, bollocks, Simon. Brilliant.
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Also, like Tony says, if you
sign Cristiano Ronaldo,
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you don't leave him
on the bench, you get him
out on the pitch.
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Right.
Yeah, plus no one
else will do it.
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No.
Yes, no, brilliant, guys.
Brilliant, brilliant.
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With the decision made,
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for Ian, by far
the most significant aspect
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of being on the 6:00 news
is that it's now
nine minutes to six.
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Oh, Ian, yes, hi.
Anna, hi.
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I wanted to talk to you.
Yes, actually I'm just on
my way down to do...
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The fact is, I'm going to say
something about values
at the Better launch.
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00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,160
Oh, okay, great.
As I say, I'm just...
The fact is, it's important.
329
00:14:16,199 --> 00:14:19,079
Yes, no, fine by me, Anna,
we should talk about it.
Yes, exactly.
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Yeah, no, the thing is
this is live, so...
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I need to know
what you had in mind.
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00:14:21,719 --> 00:14:23,599
What? What I had in mind?
Yes.
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00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,079
Yes. The fact is,
you're Head of Values.
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Anna, I can't really...
Okay, fine.
335
00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,240
If you want to e-mail
something to Jack by tomorrow,
I'll see what I can do.
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00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,839
Right. Anna,
I've really got to go.
Yes, okay, good.
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By 6:00,
it's time for the 6:00 news.
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The BBC is facing
mounting criticism tonight
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after it announced
that Evan Davis,
the presenter of Newsnight,
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is to appear as a contestant
in the next series
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of the BBC One entertainment
show, Strictly Come Dancing.
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Ian, hi. Hi.
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Ben.
Yes, hello, yes.
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Thanks very much
for doing this.
No, it's my pleasure.
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Are you warm enough?
Yes, no.
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'Cause we've got
another coat here...
No, I'm fine, thanks.
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00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,040
Okay. 90 seconds tops,
so it should be pretty straightforward.
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00:14:59,079 --> 00:15:01,439
Yes, good. Great.
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00:15:01,479 --> 00:15:03,439
Our Media Correspondent,
Benedict Cartwright
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is outside New Broadcasting
House for us now.
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00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,160
Ben, this is news that
the BBC could presumably
do without right now?
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00:15:10,199 --> 00:15:12,760
Sophie, it is, Sophie, yes.
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00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,760
The issues for the BBC
around this
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are many and complex
of course,
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but the main area of
controversy seems to be
around whether the presenter
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of its most high profile
current affairs programme
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has any business appearing
in what's often described
as a famously naff,
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00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,719
if popular,
light entertainment show,
and if so...
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00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,280
If a live interview
is an unexpected
challenge for Ian,
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for newly-promoted
Will Humphries,
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it's a chance to become
personal assistant to
someone on television.
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00:15:37,439 --> 00:15:42,079
With me now is Ian Fletcher,
the BBC's so-called
Head of Values,
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whose job it is,
one imagines anyway,
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to keep a watching brief
on standards
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right across
this vast, sprawling
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and, some might say,
deeply troubled organisation.
Yes, hello.
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00:15:52,439 --> 00:15:55,120
Ian Fletcher, this is a bit of
an own goal for you, isn't it?
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00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,760
Well, no...
Another example of both
you and the BBC
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being, frankly, a bit useless.
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00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,280
That's not something
I can accept, Ben,
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00:16:01,319 --> 00:16:03,640
and it's not a picture
of the BBC I recognise.
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With the greatest
respect though,
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why on earth should we trust
someone like you on this,
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00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,640
or indeed on anything at all?
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00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,040
No, look, at the heart of this
is something very important,
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00:16:11,079 --> 00:16:13,479
it's a fact that nobody
over the age of 40,
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00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,520
or above the weight
of 17.5 stone,
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00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,640
has ever won
Strictly Come Dancing.
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00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,760
And at a time
when body stereotyping
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00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,479
is such a big issue
for so many people,
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00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,400
we think that's something
worth reporting on.
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00:16:23,439 --> 00:16:25,000
We're not going to
apologise for that.
383
00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,959
Well, Ian Fletcher, thank you.
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00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,760
Well, Sophie,
there you have it,
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there we have
the official view,
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00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,839
the view, if you like, from
within the highly secretive,
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00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,800
some might say
frankly incomprehensible
building behind me.
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00:16:37,839 --> 00:16:41,959
Whether anyone will believe
a single word of it is
a different matter, of course.
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00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,479
Something the coming
days and weeks will
no doubt tell us. Sophie.
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00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,479
Ben, thank you.
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00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,479
And you can see more
on that story
in a special report
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00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:56,319
on Newsnight with Evan Davis
at 10:30 on BBC Two tonight.
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00:16:56,359 --> 00:16:58,680
Thanks, Ian, that was great.
Yes, thanks.
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00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,919
Hey.
Hi.
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00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,359
How's it going?
396
00:17:15,399 --> 00:17:17,159
Good, yes, great. Good.
397
00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,760
How's it going with you?
Oh, you know.
Pretty busy, really.
398
00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,159
Yes.
You know we're doing this BBC
Better launch at Pinewood?
399
00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,119
Yes, no, I know.
400
00:17:24,159 --> 00:17:25,960
Looks like I'm basically
going to end up writing
Anna's speech for her, so...
401
00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,000
Right, yes.
402
00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,440
Kind of interesting
thing to do.
403
00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,840
Ground floor.
404
00:17:29,879 --> 00:17:32,879
Yes, mmm.
Doors opening.
405
00:17:32,919 --> 00:17:34,720
No, 'cause it
did occur to me...
What did?
406
00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,800
So, Anna wants
Lucy Freeman to do this
Head of Inclusivity thing.
407
00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,399
Head of Inclusivity?
Yeah.
408
00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:40,600
I didn't even know
there was a Head of...
409
00:17:40,639 --> 00:17:42,320
Well, no, there is now,
or going to be, keep up.
410
00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,159
She's desperate to announce
it at the Better launch.
Right. So?
411
00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,440
So, it just occurred to me,
if Lucy ends up doing it,
412
00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,680
there will probably be, like,
a development role
413
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,040
in entertainment
to fill, that's all.
414
00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,040
Okay, I don't need
your bloody help, Jack, okay?
415
00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,960
Right. Okay, Christ.
Thank you.
416
00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,040
Fine. Cool, whatever.
I'm quite capable of running
my own life, thank you.
417
00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,399
I won't mention anything
to Anna or anyone.
No. Please don't.
418
00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,680
I won't.
Yes.
419
00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,120
No, any time.
Thank you.
420
00:18:00,159 --> 00:18:01,159
Great.
421
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,679
Hi, Lucy.
Hi. Are you busy?
422
00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,840
No, come on in.
423
00:18:28,879 --> 00:18:30,800
Actually, I'm just
on my way out, I think,
424
00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:31,919
however you want to take that.
425
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,639
Have you got time
for a quick drink?
426
00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:35,639
A drink?
It doesn't matter if not.
427
00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,560
It's like, it's all so...
I went in there
to say I was leaving.
428
00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,480
I actually couldn't
believe it. No.
429
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,800
It's like she just thought
I was going to decide.
Yes. Well...
430
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,760
Like she wanted me to say
yes there and then.
431
00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,600
Next thing you know,
she'll be asking for 200 words
432
00:18:48,639 --> 00:18:51,280
on inclusivity for her
speech at this...
She did, yes.
433
00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,760
Right, did she really?
Yes, whether
I wanted it or not.
434
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,639
Right, well, I mean,
Anna's not stupid.
435
00:18:55,679 --> 00:18:57,080
Isn't she? I can't tell.
436
00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:58,560
No, one thing about people
like Anna is they're brilliant
437
00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,600
at surrounding themselves
with good people,
438
00:19:00,639 --> 00:19:02,720
and I suspect
she knows you're good.
439
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,080
So it's a question of what you
want to do about that, really.
440
00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:06,480
The truth is,
the ridiculous thing,
441
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,240
I don't really know
what inclusivity actually is.
442
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,560
No. Well, this would be a hell
of a way of finding out.
443
00:19:16,679 --> 00:19:20,840
Another day
at New Broadcasting House,
and after all the controversy,
444
00:19:20,879 --> 00:19:24,480
Newsnight anchor Evan Davis
is discovering
that the transition
445
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,399
from current affairs
to light entertainment
446
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,720
might not be quite as
seamless as he thought.
447
00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,600
Okay, this is kind of where
we are at the moment.
448
00:19:34,639 --> 00:19:36,919
I mean, it's not bad,
but, I mean, frankly, I mean,
449
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,080
you guys will know
more about how you want
to see this than I do,
450
00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:42,720
but, is it just me
or is it just a bit... Yes.
451
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,879
A bit tired, a bit top-down,
452
00:19:44,919 --> 00:19:46,320
all a bit,
I don't know, a bit...
453
00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:47,480
Yes.
Sure.
454
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,360
A bit last year, you know?
No, sure.
455
00:19:49,399 --> 00:19:51,440
Yes, exactly, yes.
456
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,440
Meanwhile, inside,
Director of Strategic
Governance, Simon Harwood,
457
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,399
has convened an open meeting
to introduce the idea
of a new and better
458
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,480
BBC senior
management structure
459
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,679
to an audience of those who
don't already know about it.
460
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,679
Now, I mean, listen, you guys
will know how you want to
see this, but the thinking is,
461
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,520
if this isn't who we are,
then who are we?
What?
462
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,840
Don't know.
God knows. Give up.
463
00:20:09,879 --> 00:20:11,240
Yes, no, brilliant.
Brilliant, Neil.
464
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,040
With so much change afoot,
465
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,240
Simon has been working hard
behind the scenes
466
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,720
to ensure that the outcome
is as strategic
467
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,159
as it possibly can be
for everyone around him.
468
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,399
'Cause it did occur to me,
not being stupid or anything
but I am going to ask this,
469
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,480
what's happening with
the Head of Output now?
470
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,000
Yes, no brilliant.
If Anna's Director of Better?
471
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,720
Brilliant.
It's exciting, isn't it?
Is it?
472
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,600
Yes, no,
good question, Tracey. Yes.
473
00:20:32,639 --> 00:20:36,000
No, listen. Anyway, I guess
we'll have to wait and see
how that all pans out.
474
00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:39,200
Right.
475
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,520
Hey, don't look at me.
Oh, right. Okay.
476
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,000
Brilliant.
All hail.
477
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,840
Shut up. Fine.
478
00:20:44,879 --> 00:20:46,520
Sorry, am I too late, guys?
479
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,040
No.
Lovely.
480
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,159
No, I mean, if you're sure
you can be bothered with this.
481
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,159
Oh, no, I just thought,
you know, while I'm tackling
my crayfish and quinoa...
482
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,720
Fuck's sake. Brilliant.
483
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,720
All righty.
So that's the bad old days.
484
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,280
So, everyone,
get an eyeful of this.
485
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,600
Yes?
486
00:21:07,639 --> 00:21:08,720
Yep.
487
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,520
Right.
Oh, right.
488
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,639
Great.
489
00:21:13,679 --> 00:21:15,120
Anyone spot the difference?
No, sure.
490
00:21:15,159 --> 00:21:16,720
Yeah, this one
doesn't make sense.
491
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,720
As well as
being conceived horizontally
492
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,000
rather than vertically,
493
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,679
the new
senior management structure
494
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,480
puts the new
Director of Better
495
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,240
very much
at the centre of things,
496
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,879
freeing up other posts
around it
497
00:21:26,919 --> 00:21:29,200
to play radically
more independent roles.
498
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,000
Of course, this whole
sort of top-down thing, gone.
499
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,280
Yes.
At a stroke.
500
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,879
No, sure. Hurrah.
501
00:21:34,919 --> 00:21:36,240
And if there's one thing
we know about Tony,
502
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,320
it's just how much of
a lateral kind of a guy he is.
503
00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:39,560
Yes.
Yeah, no, sure.
504
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,840
Yes.
Although, at the risk
505
00:21:40,879 --> 00:21:43,200
of upsetting anyone's sense
of balance, Simon,
506
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,800
if you turn this on its side,
507
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,560
it's almost exactly
the same as it was
when it was top-down.
508
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,520
Really?
I've got to say
I thought that too.
509
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,159
Really? Genius.
Yeah.
510
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,080
I mean, I know how hard
you've worked on this, Simon.
511
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:54,960
Oh, now, pish.
Together with
Ben and Jerry...
512
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,600
Tish.
Tosh.
513
00:21:56,639 --> 00:21:58,560
And I know for a fact
how grateful Tony is too. Right.
514
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,679
But when we finally sat down
to go through it all,
515
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,280
we did end up wondering
whether there might not be
516
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,679
a way of reimagining
this whole thing altogether.
517
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,320
Brilliant.
Yes, 'cause I'm not being
funny or anything, Ian,
518
00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:10,080
but I've got to say,
speaking personally,
519
00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,000
I am struggling with this.
520
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,480
I mean, I don't know
if you want to look at
this now, Simon, or if...
521
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,200
Oh, yes, no, of course,
brilliant, yes. No.
522
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,480
'Cause, for my sins,
I said I'd have a go at it
523
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,840
and this is just one
that he did seem to
be quite keen on.
524
00:22:21,879 --> 00:22:23,679
Do you want...
No, it's fine, actually,
525
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,320
Will's just done his
Syncopatipoint module,
526
00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:26,840
and he set this
thing up for me.
527
00:22:26,879 --> 00:22:28,679
You can unplug all your leads.
528
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,720
So...
529
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,200
Okay.
Blimey.
530
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,000
Oh, right, no,
hang on that's...
531
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,120
Right, okay.
Oh, my God.
532
00:22:38,159 --> 00:22:39,760
Okay, no.
533
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,720
So we ended up
calling this one the
Creative Network Model
534
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,200
but you could call it
whatever you like.
535
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,720
So, what? This would
be more of a circle,
Ian, would it?
536
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,520
Well, for what it's worth,
what Tony liked about this
537
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,840
is the idea of everyone
feeding in equally
538
00:22:50,879 --> 00:22:52,600
around a common purpose.
539
00:22:52,639 --> 00:22:55,080
No, I'm sorry.
Guys, I've got to say,
I prefer this.
540
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,360
Ideas fizzing in all
directions, into the centre,
541
00:22:57,399 --> 00:22:59,600
out again, around
a sort of creative hub. Brilliant.
542
00:22:59,639 --> 00:23:02,120
It reminds me of
Television Centre before
we knocked it down
543
00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:03,280
or whatever we've done now.
544
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,800
Yes, I mean,
it's interesting, isn't it?
545
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,960
His thing was, and I hadn't
really thought about this,
546
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,159
but, in a way,
it does feel more like a BBC
sort of thing somehow,
547
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,560
and, maybe, it just might be
more liberating for all of us.
548
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,080
No, brilliant, Ian. Genius.
549
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:17,399
Yeah, no, sure.
550
00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:18,720
Yeah,
it's bloody brilliant.
551
00:23:28,439 --> 00:23:30,840
Meanwhile,
it's a number of weeks later
552
00:23:30,879 --> 00:23:34,320
and the concept of BBC Better
is finally launching itself
553
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:37,679
at the majorly iconic venue
of Britain's Pinewood Studios,
554
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,000
home of Pinewood Studios.
555
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,240
No, back. No, go back.
556
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,240
This is a big night
for the BBC and in the famous
John Barry screening room,
557
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,840
every last detail
has got to be checked
with nothing left to chance.
558
00:23:48,879 --> 00:23:51,200
So we've got
Janet Street-Porter
next to Justin Welby.
559
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,280
Sure.
Is that right?
560
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,720
No, sure.
No, back, further back.
561
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,320
Janet loves the Kaiser Chiefs.
562
00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:00,080
Justin Welby's
the Archbishop of Canterbury. Sure.
563
00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:01,240
Yes, so is that right?
564
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,520
No, sure, so you've got
all the big enchiladas
565
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,679
right here in the front row.
Right, okay, fine.
566
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:06,879
Jack?
Yeah.
567
00:24:06,919 --> 00:24:08,600
This is wrong,
I don't recognise this.
What?
568
00:24:08,639 --> 00:24:10,800
No, sure.
This is not
what I wrote.
569
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,439
Is it?
570
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,560
No. No. No, it's not.
571
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,000
Okay, so we should maybe
talk about this.
572
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,840
This is... Where's all
this crap come from?
573
00:24:16,879 --> 00:24:19,360
No, sure, we just
um... Tweaked it a bit.
Okay, no.
574
00:24:19,399 --> 00:24:20,800
You tweaked it?
I don't want this.
575
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,720
I punched it up a little.
Okay, I'm sorry, no.
576
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,320
You punched it up?
Sure.
577
00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:25,960
I don't want it.
So, hang on, what else
have you done to it?
578
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,840
Excuse me?
I don't want this.
579
00:24:27,879 --> 00:24:29,879
So, how many
other changes are there?
No, sure, okay.
580
00:24:29,919 --> 00:24:32,000
Like, we just went
through it, that's all. No.
581
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,439
I've been...
I don't want this.
582
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,000
We've been working on
this speech for, like, weeks.
583
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,679
Okay, and now you've finally
got something, okay?
What?
584
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,760
You are so going
to kill here, girl.
585
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,439
Not... No, I don't want this.
586
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,679
I don't want it.
587
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,000
Meanwhile,
outside the screening room,
588
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,280
the great and the good
are gathering in force,
589
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,600
ready and waiting
to have their opinions formed.
590
00:24:58,639 --> 00:25:01,919
For Lucy Freeman,
this is a chance to try
to get used to the idea
591
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,080
of being the BBC's new
Head of Inclusivity.
592
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:07,320
Whilst for Tracey Pritchard,
it's a chance to meet
593
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:11,600
TV's go-to classical-talking
woman, Professor Mary Beard,
in the flesh.
594
00:25:11,639 --> 00:25:14,399
I'm not a classical scholar
or anything, obviously,
595
00:25:14,439 --> 00:25:17,120
although I have actually
been to Greece
a number of times,
596
00:25:17,159 --> 00:25:20,760
but speaking personally as
a woman, I've got to say this,
597
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,879
I am a big admirer
of your work.
598
00:25:22,919 --> 00:25:25,399
Because, before you,
I mean, let's be honest
about this,
599
00:25:25,439 --> 00:25:27,560
it was all either men
or Simon Schama.
600
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,919
Brilliant.
Right, well...
601
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,720
'Cause the way I see it,
not being funny or anything,
602
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,560
but the truth is, we can't
all be Lucy Worsley, can we?
603
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,879
Yes, would you...
Lovely Lucy.
604
00:25:34,919 --> 00:25:36,280
Can I get you another...
605
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,520
Very sorry to interrupt.
Izzy. No, that's fine.
606
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,439
It's just, well,
Anna has locked
herself in the toilet.
607
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,439
God, no.
All right, okay.
608
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,639
In the toilet?
609
00:25:44,679 --> 00:25:46,120
Yes, and she won't come out.
Right, okay.
610
00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:47,639
Oh, bloody great.
611
00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:49,120
I think, to begin with,
she went in there
for just a moment.
612
00:25:49,159 --> 00:25:50,879
Right.
You know, just to
have a bit of a think.
613
00:25:50,919 --> 00:25:52,520
But, now
she's dropped her contact lens
down the sink
614
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,199
and she's refusing
to come out.
Oh, right.
615
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,159
Oh, my God!
616
00:25:56,199 --> 00:25:58,320
I mean, what the hell
I'm supposed to do about this,
God knows.
617
00:25:58,360 --> 00:25:59,879
I had to tell someone.
Oh, great!
618
00:25:59,919 --> 00:26:02,000
You're really good
at this stuff, Ian.
Yes, you are, Ian, yes.
619
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,879
What? Talking Anna Rampton
out of toilets?
620
00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:05,159
Anyway, I didn't know
what else to do.
621
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,159
Plus, we can make
the Autocue, like, really big. Yes.
622
00:26:11,199 --> 00:26:13,639
In the context of
the launch of BBC Better,
623
00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:15,439
and with the audience
ready to go in,
624
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,320
it's clearly
not such a great thing
625
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:20,080
that the new
Director of Better has
locked herself in the toilet.
626
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,240
Anna?
627
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,399
Yes, hello, Anna?
628
00:26:24,439 --> 00:26:25,639
We're all here now.
629
00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:27,840
Ian's here,
it's lovely out here.
630
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,919
Look, just say something,
you stupid bitch!
631
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,159
Okay, could everyone
just shut up a minute?
This isn't helping.
632
00:26:41,199 --> 00:26:43,000
Okay, so I know
what's happened.
633
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,840
She does have her glasses
with her, she has them
wherever she goes
634
00:26:44,879 --> 00:26:47,080
but she won't ever wear them,
'cause you know... Right.
635
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:48,800
Especially not
at a thing like this.
636
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,800
She won't?
No, sure, I totally get that.
637
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,480
I know, nightmare.
I'm like, "Duh."
638
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,120
You've tried everything else,
you could think of?
639
00:26:54,159 --> 00:26:56,040
Honestly, trust me,
I know her, she is never
coming out of there now.
640
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,280
Right, okay, well...
Good luck.
641
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,360
Yes, thanks.
642
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,040
Anna, it's Ian.
643
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,840
Just to say,
if you need anything,
644
00:27:03,879 --> 00:27:06,159
if there's anything
I can help you with...
645
00:27:06,199 --> 00:27:08,320
'Cause I'm not sure
quite what I mean by this,
646
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:10,199
but I'm sure
it's all basically okay.
647
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,120
Right. Okay.
648
00:27:30,919 --> 00:27:32,120
Hi.
649
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,960
How are you?
650
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,320
The fact is, I can't do this.
651
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:41,600
Well, I'm sure you can.
652
00:27:43,639 --> 00:27:45,240
No one knows about this
in there, by the way.
653
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,080
They're all fine with
their wine and olive thingies.
654
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:48,600
You know, is it tapenade?
655
00:27:48,639 --> 00:27:51,000
Anyway, they're
perfectly happy
braying at each other
656
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,919
about God knows what,
so it's all...
657
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,679
We've got time,
you can just...
658
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,159
You know, if you want to talk
or just catch your breath,
it's fine.
659
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,480
'Cause I think
they're basically across
the Autocue thing now, so...
660
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,000
As far as
I can gather, anyway.
661
00:28:07,159 --> 00:28:09,720
I mean, the other thing
to say, and I probably
shouldn't say this,
662
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,320
so, don't take it
the wrong way.
663
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,560
I mean, here we are,
we all get very...
664
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,080
But in the end,
in the big scheme of things,
665
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:16,520
none of this really
matters that much.
666
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:17,960
I mean, not really, does it?
667
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,720
I don't mean... I just...
I sometimes find that helps.
668
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,159
Helps me, anyway, when...
669
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:24,600
Yes, so...
670
00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:31,360
The other thing,
and for God's sake,
671
00:28:31,399 --> 00:28:33,000
don't take this
the wrong way either
672
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,360
is as far as the whole
glasses thing goes,
673
00:28:35,399 --> 00:28:37,120
I have to say, I mean,
they certainly do it for me.
674
00:28:37,159 --> 00:28:38,520
But, as I say, that's not...
675
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,399
Ah, right.
676
00:28:42,439 --> 00:28:46,159
Sorry, lip gloss,
otherwise I'd do it properly.
677
00:28:46,199 --> 00:28:47,800
Right. Right. Yes.
678
00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:51,360
Right, good, okay!
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