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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,639 Standby, two. Mix through. Cue on two. 2 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,599 The BBC has announced the appointment 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,080 of ex-head of Olympic Deliverance, Ian Fletcher, 4 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:20,800 as its new Head of Values. 5 00:00:26,799 --> 00:00:28,680 Time now for the Shipping Forecast. 6 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,080 Superimpose. 7 00:00:45,839 --> 00:00:49,040 It's Tuesday, another in a long line of Tuesdays 8 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,120 at the BBC's New Broadcasting House 9 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:53,280 headquarters in central London. 10 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,600 Morning! Yes, hi. 11 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,520 The man with the values. Hi, how are you, Simon? 12 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,119 Bearing up. Bearing up. 13 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,800 Good. Actually, whilst I've got you, Simon... 14 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,920 Brilliant. I see tomorrow's the closing date. 15 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:18,200 Sorry. Sorry, Ian. Can I just... Is that a titanium one? 16 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,320 What? No, this is just, you know, it's a normal one. Yes, no, brilliant. 17 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,759 So, I was going to ask Tony... 18 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,039 Sorry, can I just... I mean, can I have a quick... 19 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Well, I mean... Would you mind? 20 00:01:26,479 --> 00:01:27,880 Right. 21 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,560 Yes, you see, I'm not sure the extra 400 quid's worth it. 22 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,839 Right. 23 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,399 So, that's titanium? 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Supposed to be. I'm not sure you can tell the difference. 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,000 Anyway... I feel a bit of a mug. 26 00:01:36,039 --> 00:01:38,000 Right. Yes. So, anyway, whilst I've got you, Simon... 27 00:01:38,039 --> 00:01:41,240 Tomorrow is the closing date for applications for the new 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,839 and highly senior Director of Better post. 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,320 I mean, obviously, I wasn't consulted about any of this originally. 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:47,839 No, I know, honestly. 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,440 And I still think it's a ludicrous title. Yes, no, brilliant. 32 00:01:49,479 --> 00:01:51,160 But since it does seem to be happening, I think, 33 00:01:51,199 --> 00:01:53,320 and this is something I'm going to mention to Tony... 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,320 Right. Jolly good. When it comes to the interview process, 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,240 I think it would be an appropriate thing, 36 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,559 and actually a healthy thing, for Values to be represented in that process. 37 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,320 Yes, no, brilliant. As I say, this is something I'm just flagging up now, 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,839 but it is something I'm gonna be mentioning to Tony. 39 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,280 Oh, really good, Ian. Very brave. 40 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,720 Well, no, it's just... Brave? 41 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:09,519 Despite all his wisdom and experience 42 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,040 as the BBC's Director of Strategic Governance, 43 00:02:12,079 --> 00:02:14,880 Simon Harwood is still not sure whether the laws of management 44 00:02:14,920 --> 00:02:19,440 allow the Head of Values to sit on the interviewing panel for a new Director-level post. 45 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,280 I mean, maybe if someone had told me this to begin with, 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,480 I might've applied for it myself. 47 00:02:22,519 --> 00:02:24,160 Yes, no. Very good. I'm serious. 48 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,880 Yes, no. I'd like to see Tony's face. What? 49 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:28,239 Well, the idea of his own creation, Captain Values, 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,640 taking his hand off the controls to apply for another job... 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,160 He'd practically have a fit. 52 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:33,840 Oh, great. So, I'm too important to apply for the job, 53 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,799 but I'm not important enough to sit on the interviewing panel. 54 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Oh, no, no. It's a unique position, Ian. 55 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:39,480 Yes. Yes, no. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. 56 00:02:39,519 --> 00:02:41,799 Yes, brilliant. Yes. Yes, no. It's all good. 57 00:02:47,239 --> 00:02:49,400 Will. Oh, yeah. Hi, yeah. 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,880 You're already in? Yeah. I know. Yeah, mental, yeah. 59 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:53,480 But Ian isn't the only one 60 00:02:53,519 --> 00:02:55,320 with professional issues on his mind. 61 00:02:55,359 --> 00:02:58,799 Following a spectacular coup involving the BBC's Wimbledon coverage 62 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,320 and his sister's connection with tennis star Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, 63 00:03:02,359 --> 00:03:05,440 intern Will Humphries has been offered a so-far temporary post 64 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,320 as assistant to the Head of Values. 65 00:03:07,359 --> 00:03:10,280 So today, you've got, like, a meeting with Alan... 66 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:13,560 Yeah, no. Hang on... Alan who? 67 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,040 Crap, I think that's a spelling mistake. 68 00:03:15,079 --> 00:03:17,359 Alan Yentob? Yeah, Yentob, yeah. 69 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,320 Yentob... 70 00:03:19,359 --> 00:03:21,320 Yes? Yeah, at 10:00. 71 00:03:21,359 --> 00:03:23,040 10:00? 72 00:03:23,079 --> 00:03:25,440 As part of his new role, Will has established himself 73 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,359 at a desk in the same general area 74 00:03:27,399 --> 00:03:29,799 as fellow assistant and colleague, Izzy Gould, 75 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,239 as well as to a lesser extent, Jack Patterson. 76 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,480 Yes, I think that might be yesterday. 77 00:03:34,519 --> 00:03:35,720 Yeah, no. Say again? 78 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,160 Are you sure you're looking at today? 79 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,119 Yeah. Okay, no. Well, anyway. 80 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,519 Yeah, that's what you did yesterday. 81 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:42,840 Yes, but that's always good to know. 82 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,399 Yeah. No worries, yeah, cool. 83 00:03:48,399 --> 00:03:50,600 Yes, no. Brilliant. So before we get started, 84 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,799 this morning's news from Tony-land... Great. 85 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,280 I mean, I think there'll be an email about this anyway, 86 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,359 but he's got this thing in his head. All right. 87 00:03:57,399 --> 00:04:00,239 I mean, it was after he came back from Kerala, really. Oh, bloody hell. 88 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,760 By 9:00, Ian is already taking part 89 00:04:02,799 --> 00:04:04,280 in the Damage Limitation meeting 90 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,480 because that is what he's doing today. 91 00:04:06,519 --> 00:04:10,160 But Simon has some good news to share before they get on to the damage to be limited. 92 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,000 And this'll be because we've all got to be 93 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,519 more bendy and flexible from now on, is it, Simon? 94 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:15,959 Yes, no. Very good, Tracey. Very strong. 95 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,839 I'm quite happy with where my toes are. 96 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,920 I don't need to bloody touch them. 97 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:23,320 As part of his vision for "a happier, healthier and better BBC," 98 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,360 Director General Lord Tony Hall has decided that lunchtime Pilates classes 99 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,680 will be provided free of charge for anyone who wants them. 100 00:04:30,719 --> 00:04:33,760 I mean, I assume this isn't actually compulsory, Simon? 101 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,120 Oh, no, no, no, no. No. 102 00:04:35,159 --> 00:04:37,080 No. I mean, for what it's worth, 103 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,919 it's just something Tony's got a bit obsessed with personally, that's all. 104 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Right. Oh, okay. 105 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,960 It's for anyone who wants it. Cool. 106 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,280 I think the idea is, he might turn up himself occasionally. Right. 107 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,680 The what? He, himself? 108 00:04:45,719 --> 00:04:47,240 Yes. I gather so, yes. Right. 109 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:48,680 Okay. Groovy. 110 00:04:48,719 --> 00:04:50,479 All righty, jolly good. Onwards. Brilliant. 111 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,080 So, Neil... Righty-ho. 112 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,919 Where are we are up to with this whole Evan Davis thing? 113 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,200 Oh, right. Okay. 114 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,560 Evan Davis? Yes. 115 00:04:56,599 --> 00:04:57,960 Yeah, basically, we're fucked. 116 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,320 Brilliant. No. That's not very good. 117 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:00,960 In the past 24 hours, 118 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,159 rumours have started to appear on Twitter 119 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,919 that the BBC's Newsnight anchor, Evan Davis, 120 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,719 is to be a contestant on the forthcoming series of Strictly Come Dancing. 121 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,960 Guys, can I just say, we are taking heavy incoming on this 122 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,400 in the press office this morning. 123 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,360 Yeah, I'm not surprised. We love Strictly. 124 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,960 And I'm not being negative or anything, but this is only gonna get worse. 125 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Such a cool show. The fact is, this is important. 126 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,760 Yeah, I know it is. Yes, no. Very good. 127 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,880 It's hard enough to keep the guy still as it is. 128 00:05:24,919 --> 00:05:27,080 The last thing we need is to let him anywhere near sequins. 129 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,159 The fact remains that Newsnight is actually a serious show. 130 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,640 This is an example of an area where the BBC needs to be better. 131 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Yes, no. Brilliant, Anna, brilliant. 132 00:05:34,359 --> 00:05:35,719 Very good. Yes, no. Very strong. 133 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,359 So, hang on, are we saying these rumours are true? 134 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,880 Sure. Yeah, they are, yeah. 135 00:05:38,919 --> 00:05:41,200 They are? Yeah, no. He's obsessed with the idea already. 136 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,359 No, I get it. Totally get it. I mean, cool guy, cool show. 137 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,560 But how did this... These are both BBC shows. 138 00:05:45,599 --> 00:05:47,960 I mean, I have to say it's not Evan's fault, okay? It wasn't his idea. 139 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,479 He's been signed up by some agency. 140 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,240 An agency? Cool. 141 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:53,280 And they think this would be good for "Brand Evan". Brand Evan? 142 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,000 Yeah, so now, apparently, we have to go through them 143 00:05:55,039 --> 00:05:56,280 whenever we want to talk about it. 144 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,159 Sure, no. Totally good with that. 145 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,440 What kind of agency are we talking about here, Neil? 146 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:01,919 Oh, I don't know. 147 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,520 Hang on, I've got a bloody email about it somewhere. 148 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,560 Can I just say, not being funny or anything, 149 00:06:05,599 --> 00:06:08,800 but I've got a feeling in my bottom about this and not in a nice way. 150 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:11,080 Okay, here we go. 151 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,560 Oh, right. Okay. What? 152 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,000 No, sure. Okay. 153 00:06:17,039 --> 00:06:18,960 No. All right, here we go. 154 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Okay. So, here's the thing with this, guys. 155 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,479 This is like, the best thing ever. 156 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,080 Hi, Lucy. Hi. 157 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,000 How are you? Yes, no. I'm fine, thanks. Yes. 158 00:06:43,039 --> 00:06:45,680 Can I just ask, have you done something to your hair? My hair? 159 00:06:45,719 --> 00:06:47,320 Yeah, I don't know. No, not really. Why? 160 00:06:47,359 --> 00:06:49,200 Have you not? I don't know... What do you want, David? 161 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,680 No, no, no. Nothing. Have you got a minute? 162 00:06:50,719 --> 00:06:52,200 Now? Yeah, just while you're drinking your coffee. 163 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,200 Uh... Would you mind if we went somewhere private? 164 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:55,640 Somewhere private? Yeah. 165 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:56,719 In here? 166 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,880 I wanted to ask if... What? 167 00:06:59,919 --> 00:07:01,280 I wanted to ask if... 168 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,440 Actually, this is ridiculous. This is a radio studio. 169 00:07:03,479 --> 00:07:05,560 I know. It's soundproof. No one can hear us in here. 170 00:07:05,599 --> 00:07:09,599 No, I just wanted to ask if I could put your name down as a referee? 171 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,280 Oh, right. You applying for a job? 172 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,520 Well... You gonna leave us? 173 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:13,919 No, no, not leaving. Oh. 174 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,440 Entertainment Format Executive David Wilkes 175 00:07:16,479 --> 00:07:18,320 has made a big decision about himself 176 00:07:18,359 --> 00:07:21,840 and, as a result, has a private favour to ask Producer Lucy Freeman. 177 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,680 At this stage, I don't want, you know, everyone to... Oh, God. 178 00:07:24,719 --> 00:07:26,200 I don't want everyone... You're not. 179 00:07:26,239 --> 00:07:27,719 You know I trust you. You are, aren't you? 180 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,479 You're applying for Director of bloody Better? 181 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,560 Now, I know what you're thinking... 182 00:07:30,599 --> 00:07:32,320 Well, no... Yes, I am actually. Yes. 183 00:07:32,359 --> 00:07:33,719 I won't get it. No. 184 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,159 I know. But do you know what? Anyone can apply for it. 185 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,479 And the thing is, it's like, just by applying, 186 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,359 it puts you in that category straight away, doesn't it? 187 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,239 What, the category of people who haven't got it? 188 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,520 You should apply for it, Lucy. Why don't you apply? Me? 189 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,080 Yes. No, but seriously, I respect you, Lucy. 190 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,640 And I like to think that we work together closely and well. 191 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,799 You... Right. 192 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:52,239 I mean, apart from anything else, Siobhan, 193 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,479 the issue is conflict of interest for a start. 194 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:55,960 Nuh-uh. It's not an issue. 195 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,960 I don't see how you can be responsible for Brand BBC 196 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,200 and Brand Evan Davis at the same time. 197 00:08:00,239 --> 00:08:02,960 No, sure. I do everything at the same time. It's what I do. Like, get over it. 198 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,359 Bollocks. 199 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Meanwhile, back in Damage Limitation, 200 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,080 Siobhan is explaining exactly why BBC Two Newsnight anchor Evan Davis 201 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,000 appearing on Strictly Come Dancing is such a cool idea. 202 00:08:13,039 --> 00:08:15,599 But as Current Controller of News and Current Affairs, 203 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,440 Neil Reid is not fully convinced. 204 00:08:17,479 --> 00:08:19,200 Have you got any idea what you're doing here? 205 00:08:19,239 --> 00:08:21,280 Okay. So here's the thing with this. Here's what it is. 206 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,919 What it is, is, okay, so the audience for Strictly is, like, everybody. Okay? 207 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,239 Well... No, it's not a question. It is. 208 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,520 And the audience for Newsnight is, like, nobody. Right? 209 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,359 That's a slight over-simplification. 210 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,199 No, sure. I'm good with that. So, like, Evan does Strictly. 211 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,400 Okay? He's like one cool guy. 212 00:08:35,439 --> 00:08:37,199 Suddenly, I'm, like, "I love this guy." 213 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,039 Like, "You're telling me he's got his own show?" 214 00:08:39,079 --> 00:08:41,079 It's not a fucking chat show. Okay, sure. Whatever. 215 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,760 Interesting though, Neil. Yes. 216 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:44,640 Interesting way of... Yes, well, shall we come back to that? 217 00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:46,920 Absolutely, yes. Suddenly, it's like you just 218 00:08:46,959 --> 00:08:49,760 rhinocerised your audience for Newsnight overnight. 219 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,120 We are sitting in the best known news organisation in the world, okay? 220 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,199 Hurrah. Yay. 221 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Sorry, Neil. 222 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,920 Newsnight is the current affairs show we're judged on, 223 00:08:57,959 --> 00:09:00,480 basically because we haven't got any other current affairs shows left and believe... 224 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,000 Shame. Believe it or not, people trust us. 225 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,319 God knows why, but they do. 226 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,040 I mean, we get it wrong from time to time. 227 00:09:06,079 --> 00:09:07,199 Brilliant. Yes. 228 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,840 Yes, we do, Neil. Yes. Of course we do. 229 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,840 Yes. But we work bloody hard... 230 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,240 Now, Neil... Look, I just want to see what it sounds like, okay? 231 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,600 Right. I never get to say this stuff. 232 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,079 No, of course. Yes. Brilliant. 233 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,760 Go Neil. Can you imagine 234 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,800 what will happen if the main anchor of that show 235 00:09:20,839 --> 00:09:22,600 starts turning up on Saturday nights 236 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,640 in spray-on trousers and sparkly hair, 237 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:27,560 clamped to some half-naked orange-faced girl? 238 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,680 Yes, thank you. I can, Neil. No, not you, Tracey. 239 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,560 No, I know. But I'm just saying I can imagine it. 240 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,600 Right, yes. And on another of our own channels. 241 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,000 No. I mean, I have to say, with my Way Ahead hat on, 242 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,480 with charter renewal and everything, 243 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,839 I mean, this really is not going to look great, is it? 244 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,000 Exactly, no. Brilliant. 245 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,480 The fact is, this needs to not happen. 246 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,040 No. I mean, it's an interesting one though, isn't it? 247 00:09:45,079 --> 00:09:46,400 And it needs to not happen now. 248 00:09:46,439 --> 00:09:48,120 I mean, I don't know, I may have got this wrong, 249 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,480 but as the guy with the Way Ahead hat, Ian... Right. 250 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,839 And of course, the Values hat, 251 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,120 I mean, honestly, you've got so many hats... 252 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,040 Yes, all right. Are you saying 253 00:09:55,079 --> 00:09:58,360 this is something you really want to be across personally in an ideal world? 254 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,160 I mean, certainly... I mean, as I say, this is a really... 255 00:10:01,199 --> 00:10:02,600 Brilliant. 256 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,360 I mean, this is a core issue for all of us, I think. 257 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,199 Brilliant, Ian. Brilliant. Yep. 258 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Okay. All righty. Fabulous. Yes. 259 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,120 Right. Righty-ho. 260 00:10:22,199 --> 00:10:24,480 Crap. 261 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,319 Meanwhile, at his new desk in the general area of new colleague, Izzy Gould, 262 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,720 Will Humphries is between sessions on his Syncopatico induction course. 263 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,560 Crap. 264 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:40,720 Whoa. 265 00:10:42,839 --> 00:10:44,600 Jesus. What? What? 266 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,480 No, no, no. What's wrong? 267 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,480 The theory is, that by the end of the course, 268 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,880 he'll be automatically synced to everyone and everything around him, 269 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,360 whether they realise it or not. 270 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,079 That's me! Yeah. Say again. 271 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,880 That's my stuff you've got there. 272 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,839 Whoa. I was working on that. What've you done? 273 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,480 That's amazing. 274 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:01,760 It just does it. We're doing Syncopatipair this morning. 275 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,480 Syncopatipair? Yeah. 276 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,480 Right. Well... And the same thing happened with this girl there. 277 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,600 Okay, you have to undo this. The guy said he'd never seen that before. 278 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,160 You have to undo it now. Yeah, good luck. 279 00:11:09,199 --> 00:11:10,800 Yeah. 'Cause, like, I don't know what I did. 280 00:11:10,839 --> 00:11:12,319 Right, okay. Give me that. 281 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:15,839 Is it always girls? What? Yeah, I don't know. 282 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,079 Because, you 've got to say, that's pretty impressive. 283 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,319 Okay, System Preferences. You're gonna need your password. 284 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,680 Yeah. Want to put it in? 285 00:11:22,719 --> 00:11:23,800 Yeah, okay. 286 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,719 Crap. Not having much luck there, are you? 287 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,839 Okay, cool, yeah, so it's not working. At least we know that. 288 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,920 Okay, what is it? 289 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:40,560 You can't just have his password. 290 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,959 I don't care, he can choose a new one. What is it, Will? 291 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,079 Yeah. Yeah, so... 292 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:45,760 Will? 293 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,839 I. 294 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:51,000 Z. 295 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,400 Z. 296 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,120 Z. 297 00:11:55,719 --> 00:11:56,760 Y. 298 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,600 Y. Right. 299 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,000 Yeah. 300 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,760 Then, G. 301 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:02,880 G. Yep. 302 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,680 O. O-U-L-D. 303 00:12:04,719 --> 00:12:06,800 Yeah. O-U-L-D. Yeah. 304 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,120 And then 4. 4? 305 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,640 Yeah, I don't know. That's just, like, a number. 306 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,000 Yeah, crap. Right. 307 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,120 You can try my name, if you like. 308 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,319 Yeah. Shall I spell it for you? 309 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Yeah, no. Say again. Shut up. 310 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,439 In fact, I sometimes say to my beginners 311 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,480 that Pilates is about three things, 312 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,560 breathing, engaging your core, and posture. 313 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,319 Or, as we call them, the pelvic three. Brilliant. 314 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,000 Meanwhile, it's Friday. 315 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,439 And there's an impressive turnout for the first ever 316 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,120 free lunchtime BBC Pilates session. 317 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,680 Even though Director General Lord Tony Hall himself hasn't so far arrived yet. 318 00:12:41,719 --> 00:12:44,439 Now, especially if you're just starting... No. The fact is that... 319 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,160 So we're not actually talking. The fact is, I... 320 00:12:46,199 --> 00:12:48,520 We're not talking, we're just listening at this point. 321 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:51,000 So, in Pilates, we breathe in through the nose... 322 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,959 Two, three, four. 323 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,800 And then we're exhaling though the mouth... 324 00:12:55,839 --> 00:12:58,439 Two, three, four. 325 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,560 Inhaling through. Yes. So, we're doing it now. Yes? 326 00:13:00,599 --> 00:13:04,000 Inhaling through the nose. Two, three, four. 327 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,120 And then when we exhale, we're going to suck the belly button right into the spine 328 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,520 Two, three, four. 329 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:13,360 Can I ask a question? Of course. Yeah. 330 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,280 When we're breathing, should we be two, three, fouring, like you? 331 00:13:16,319 --> 00:13:17,480 Well... No. 332 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,160 'Cause I'm not being funny or anything, 333 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:20,640 but what with inhaling and exhaling, 334 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:21,839 and sucking and what have you... 335 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,199 No, you don't have to do that. The fact is... 336 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,319 Okay, and stop breathing. 337 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,760 Sorry, Anna. Sorry, guys. 338 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,520 Uh, we are actually... No, that's okay, Jack. Come in. 339 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:30,719 No, it's just, I finally got hold of Alice 340 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,520 in Tony's office. Yes. 341 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,240 Just so you now, he's not actually in this morning. Right. 342 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,400 Okay. Apparently, he and Simon went to... 343 00:13:36,439 --> 00:13:37,760 Yes, okay. Yes, so I just... 344 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,480 Yes. Okay, good. Sure. 345 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,240 Right. Okay, if we're done? 346 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,760 So, what we're going to do, we're going to take what we've learned 347 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,599 about our breathing and we're going to... 348 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,640 Yeah. So, I'm gonna go, I'm afraid. 349 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:52,160 Right. Sorry. 350 00:13:52,199 --> 00:13:54,719 No. Well, that's... The fact is, I've run out of time. 351 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,160 Uh, good luck with the breathing, obviously. Sure. 352 00:13:58,199 --> 00:14:01,079 Perhaps another time. Well, yes. Let's hope so, perhaps. 353 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,439 Yes. 354 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,199 Okay. So, what we're going to do now, 355 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,719 we're going to take what we've learned from our breathing 356 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,040 and we're gonna get familiar with our pelvic girdle. 357 00:14:18,079 --> 00:14:19,560 All right. Okay. Oh, my God. 358 00:14:19,599 --> 00:14:21,560 Actually, do you know what? Just while we've stopped... 359 00:14:21,599 --> 00:14:23,000 Okay, sure. 360 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,240 I think I'm gonna have to go as well. Brilliant. 361 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,160 Right. Yes, no. Very good. 362 00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:30,280 Sorry. I mean, if that's gonna be all right. No, yes. I mean... 363 00:14:30,319 --> 00:14:32,400 Really sorry. It's just, um, 364 00:14:32,439 --> 00:14:35,520 some stuff I promised I'd look at for this afternoon. 365 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,479 Well, again, maybe next time. No, sure. Absolutely. Really enjoyed it, by the way. 366 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,360 Good. Brilliant. 367 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,079 Thank you so much. Yeah, no. Really, really great. Have fun, everybody. 368 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,160 Righty-ho. 369 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,640 Okay. Well, I have to say it is unusual to lose so many this early. 370 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,120 Yes. But the fewer the number, the greater the glory. 371 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,120 Can I just say, just so you know, I'm not going anywhere. 372 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,319 Sure. 'Cause I'm not being funny or anything, 373 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,280 I don't know about you, but if you get a chance 374 00:15:02,319 --> 00:15:04,319 to get familiar with your pelvic girdle for free, 375 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,439 I'm gonna take it. 376 00:15:05,479 --> 00:15:07,000 Oh, no. Tell me about it. 377 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,120 Hi. Oh, hi. Lucy, yes. How are you? 378 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,319 Yes, fine. Yes. Great. 379 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,839 Actually, I've been... That's really great. 380 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,719 Listen, I was gonna email you, actually. Yes, so was I. 381 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,160 No, great. I was gonna ask if you'd be able to just 382 00:15:30,199 --> 00:15:31,920 scribble something down on paper for me. 383 00:15:31,959 --> 00:15:34,120 Scribble something down? Yeah, or you know, or in an email. 384 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,240 Just a record of where we're up to with Home Truth. 385 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,240 Oh, okay. Right, Okay. Yeah. 386 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,719 At the moment, Generic Head of Comedy and/or Drama, Matt Taverner, 387 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,640 is a particularly busy man. 388 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,160 And among the many projects that are currently uppermost in his mind 389 00:15:47,199 --> 00:15:50,360 is his interview for the new Director of Better post at the end of the week. 390 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,240 When would you need this thing by? 391 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,439 Sure, it'd be really good to get something in the next few days. 392 00:15:54,479 --> 00:15:56,280 Right. Tomorrow would be really great. 393 00:15:56,319 --> 00:15:58,199 'Cause I still haven't managed to get hold of Dan since the meeting. 394 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,199 No, sure. He's not returning emails or picking up messages. 395 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,719 Sure. I'm a bit worried, actually. 396 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,560 I'm not sure what's happened to him. 397 00:16:04,599 --> 00:16:07,120 No, sure. That's really great. What do you think about Neighbourhoods? 398 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,439 Neighbourhood? Sorry. Yeah. 399 00:16:08,479 --> 00:16:10,199 As a title, I mean. A title? 400 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,040 Yeah, I don't know. I've just got this feeling... 401 00:16:12,079 --> 00:16:14,400 But after the meeting, Matt, Home Truth was about the only thing left. 402 00:16:14,439 --> 00:16:16,040 Yeah, no. Sure, absolutely. Right. 403 00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:18,079 Thanks, Lucy. That'd be really great. 404 00:16:39,439 --> 00:16:41,319 If Evan Davis does Strictly Come Dancing, 405 00:16:41,359 --> 00:16:42,760 he's crossed the fucking Rubicon, okay? 406 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,040 Excuse me? 407 00:16:44,079 --> 00:16:45,680 He's never doing Newsnight again. 408 00:16:45,719 --> 00:16:47,880 Okay, so that's, like, discrimination. Okay? 409 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,240 What? Well, hang on... 410 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,079 So that's illegal right off of the bat. 411 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,800 It's another morning and Ian has asked Neil, Tracey and Siobhan 412 00:16:54,839 --> 00:16:57,079 to come in early for a breakfast meeting. 413 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,760 Overnight, the contestants for the next series of Strictly Come Dancing 414 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,800 have been officially and irrevocably announced. 415 00:17:02,839 --> 00:17:04,760 Okay, okay. Here's the deal here, okay? 416 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,760 Evan is like a living, breathing... I mean, he's like a person. Okay? 417 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,399 He's always wanted to dance. 418 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,319 He's, like, obsessed with Kylie. 419 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Like, he can do Can't Get You Out of My Head with all the moves, okay? 420 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,919 This is like his moment, okay? 421 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,480 This is where shit happens for him. 422 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,560 This is gonna change his life. Right. 423 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:23,359 Blimey. Bollocks. 424 00:17:23,399 --> 00:17:24,879 Okay, he doesn't do Strictly, he's not doing Newslight. Okay? 425 00:17:24,919 --> 00:17:26,280 Newsnight. Sure. Whatever. Period. 426 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:28,200 That's the deal here, guys. Fine. Okay. 427 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,320 Evan's actually said that to you? Sure. 428 00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:32,720 No, I'm sorry, Siobhan, I don't... I'm saying it to you now. 429 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:33,919 Okay? Get over it. 430 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,560 Fine, great. Deal. Right. 431 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,639 Cool. Great. 432 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Sure. Fine. 433 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,399 Right, okay. Good. 434 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,320 Do you know what? Maybe they're not a Scottish family. Okay? 435 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,000 Maybe they're, like, an Indian family, okay? 436 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,080 What is it those Indian things... It's like you sit on them 437 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:48,120 and you hit them at the same time? 438 00:17:48,159 --> 00:17:51,000 For a while now, David Wilkes has been working on the format 439 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,080 of Family Face-Off, a theoretical idea for a new BBC One show. 440 00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:57,080 But drawing on past experience, 441 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,159 Head of Output, Anna Rampton, has induced 442 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,399 Producer Lucy Freeman to work alongside him, 443 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,440 in order to help him make it less theoretical. 444 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,360 And the other one can do, like, twerking. Yeah, all right. 445 00:18:05,399 --> 00:18:08,120 And the great thing about this format, Anna... 446 00:18:08,159 --> 00:18:10,320 There are some details still to be finalised. 447 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:12,000 But luckily, Anna has the ability 448 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,520 to see past detail to the potential benefits 449 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,440 of a show that's mainstream, warm, inclusive, and hers. 450 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,159 The fact is, people don't think in formats. They think in faces. 451 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,159 I know, exactly. Yes. Right. 452 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,399 If this thing's gonna work, we need contemporary faces attached from the start. 453 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,760 Right. Contemporary faces? 454 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,159 Yes. Exactly, yes. Yes. 455 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Yes. Right. 456 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:37,120 So, a thought I had, guys, and stay with me on this, 457 00:18:37,159 --> 00:18:38,879 Idris Elba. 458 00:18:38,919 --> 00:18:40,240 Right. Idris Elba? 459 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,840 I know. 460 00:18:41,879 --> 00:18:43,919 But he's not actually a presenter, is he? No, he isn't. No. 461 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,080 I know, but he's just such a beautiful man. 462 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:47,200 Right. Okay. 463 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,560 And the thing is, do you know what? 464 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:49,800 Sometimes you just got to make things happen, 465 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,240 instead of hoping they'll happen. 466 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,960 The fact is, no one's hoping that'll happen. No. 467 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,280 Least of all Idris. Right, no. Okay. 468 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,600 Can I just say, it's difficult this, isn't it? 469 00:18:58,639 --> 00:19:00,560 But, hang on, sorry. Surely, um... 470 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:01,879 'Cause I'm only... I'm just catching up here. 471 00:19:01,919 --> 00:19:03,560 This is absolutely your thing, David. 472 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,000 Oh, I know. But what is it you're wanting to do here? 473 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,200 To do? Yes. 474 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,919 No, sorry. You lost me already there, Lucy. 475 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,080 I mean, if you really want to make this an inclusive thing... 476 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:13,879 Yes. Exactly, yes. If that's what this is about. 477 00:19:13,919 --> 00:19:16,320 Well, the fact is, this is about being better. Oh, absolutely. Yes. 478 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:17,800 And inclusive, obviously. Yes. 479 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,200 Okay, so there are lots of ways... 480 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,480 Ainsley Harriott. No. 481 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,360 No, okay. Sorry, Lucy. 482 00:19:22,399 --> 00:19:24,520 No, I was just... There are lots of ways of, I mean, I don't know... 483 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,679 If you've got some kid who can play like the saxophone, 484 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,639 get Courtney Pine in as a mentor or judge. 485 00:19:28,679 --> 00:19:30,440 Yes. 486 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,280 You know, or get Madhur Jaffrey if you've got some Dad cooking curry. 487 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,720 Genius. Yes, exactly. 488 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,159 You know, or get what's-his-name if you've got a kid 489 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,960 who can do cartwheels or whatever. Uh... 490 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,360 Gymnast, did Strictly... Ooh, ooh, Louis Smith! 491 00:19:39,399 --> 00:19:40,960 Louis Smith. Yes. Yes. 492 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,159 Ah, lovely Louis. Stop it, Lucy. Yes. Okay, good. 493 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,919 And, I don't know, Family Face-Off, if you really want inclusive, 494 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,399 call it One Big Family or something instead. 495 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,800 One Big Family? 496 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:58,320 Can I just say, I can feel the wand of history passing over us. 497 00:19:58,360 --> 00:19:59,760 But, like I say, this isn't my area. 498 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,360 I don't know how these things work. 499 00:20:01,399 --> 00:20:03,960 So, in this scenario, Ian, Evan would be like 500 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,040 an undercover reporter on Strictly, would he? 501 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,159 Well... Cool. 502 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,280 Undercover? 503 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,800 Yes. He's Evan fucking Davis. 504 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,800 He so is. 505 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,240 Back in Frankie Howerd, they may be in the Last Chance Saloon 506 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,200 with Evan Davis-gate, but Ian has come up with an idea 507 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,919 that could just be the best option available to them, 508 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,000 given that they haven't got any other options. 509 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,080 But I suppose the question is, is there an angle on Strictly 510 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:25,679 that a programme like Newsnight 511 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,879 might just be doing a report on? This is a joke, right? 512 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:30,399 Well... Evan Davis embedded in Elstree? 513 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,840 Well, okay, if you like. 514 00:20:31,879 --> 00:20:34,040 All I'm asking... I mean, would that help us at all? 515 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,440 Right. No. Bollocks, Ian. 516 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,679 Sure, I'm totally good with that. 517 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,440 But if the idea is to work, 518 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,159 the challenge is to find an angle on Strictly Come Dancing 519 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,720 that's serious enough to be worthy of Newsnight. 520 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,000 When you say an angle, Ian... I mean, is there... 521 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,080 Okay, okay. Shoes. 522 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:49,120 Well, no. Shoes? 523 00:20:49,159 --> 00:20:51,280 Like how everyone loves heels. I've seen stuff on that. That's such a cool idea. 524 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,200 Yes, I'm not sure that's really Newsnight territory, is it, Neil? 525 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,040 You expect me to answer that? Right. Okay, no. 526 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,919 Okay, okay, gay stuff. "Gay stuff?" 527 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,800 What? Like, why we're all gay these days. 528 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,679 I mean, that's a no-brainer. Right, I think that's perhaps a bit... 529 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,280 Can I just say, I'm finding it difficult to think here. 530 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,639 I just mean, is there something that feels 531 00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:07,679 a bit more heavyweight than, you know, shoes? 532 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,840 Heavyweight? Yes. 533 00:21:08,879 --> 00:21:10,560 Okay, right. Fat people. 534 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,080 No. Not fat people, Siobhan. That's really not... That's not very... 535 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,000 It's not very good. Well, I mean, it's... Although... 536 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,240 What? I mean, I suppose body image is something. 537 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,720 Sure. Body image? 538 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Oh, right. You know, the whole body stereotyping issue. 539 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,360 Sure, exactly. Fat people. Like I said, it's perfect. 540 00:21:25,399 --> 00:21:28,240 I mean, it is an area that's in the air at the moment. 541 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,360 Yes. I mean, it really is, sort of... It... 542 00:21:31,399 --> 00:21:33,360 Actually, could you stop doing that, please, Siobhan? Sure. 543 00:21:33,399 --> 00:21:34,600 Yes. It's just a bit difficult... 544 00:21:34,639 --> 00:21:36,000 Sure, I'm good with that. Yeah, shut up. 545 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,919 Right. No, yes, it's just... 546 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,560 Like, I had to finish. Right? 547 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,280 No, I don't know, it just feels like it might be 548 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,600 something in this general area. 549 00:21:43,639 --> 00:21:45,600 Sure, totally. 550 00:21:45,639 --> 00:21:47,760 'Cause I'm not being funny or anything, but when you actually think of it, 551 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,080 when was the last time anyone fat or old ever actually won Strictly Come Dancing? 552 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:52,280 Nuh-uh. Well, yes. 553 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,040 No. That's, like, ew. Not gonna happen. 554 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,320 Also, as a woman, I am going to say this. 555 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:59,800 Personally, I've had about enough of being compared to Abbey Clancy all the time. 556 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,639 Well, yes, that must be... We love Abbey. 557 00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:04,240 I'm sure it's the same for men. Well, it... Yes. 558 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,879 No. I think I would believe that gender stereotyping is an area that Newsnight 559 00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:09,800 might get itself involved with. Sure, totally. 560 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,520 I've gotta say, I agree, Ian. I mean, Neil? 561 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,240 Yeah, I'm always being compared to Abbey Clancy. Right. 562 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,439 It's a bloody nightmare. Right. Okay. 563 00:22:18,639 --> 00:22:20,080 We should just tell him. No. 564 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:22,000 We're all grown-ups. Well, you and I are anyway. 565 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,679 I'm not asking him to move. I'm not gonna do that. 566 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,960 That's all right. I'll do it for you. 567 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,280 Elsewhere in the building, 568 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,439 Izzy and Jack have taken some time out 569 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,439 to discuss professional issues of their own. 570 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,879 It's a nightmare. 571 00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:33,439 You never know what he's gonna pair himself with next. 572 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,960 Just 'cause Will's a nice guy... 573 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Oh, you know, he's lovely. He's just useless, that's all. 574 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,639 Like, he shouldn't actually be an assistant. 575 00:22:38,679 --> 00:22:40,240 It's not great for us, is it? What? 576 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,000 Well, to be on the same... God, that's so typical. 577 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,399 What? Will tries really hard at everything he does. 578 00:22:44,439 --> 00:22:46,280 Yeah, and that just makes the fact he's useless even worse. 579 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,080 It's not like it's gonna be an issue for me. But it's... 580 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,080 What do you mean it's not gonna be an issue for you? 581 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:53,879 No, nothing. I just... No, tell me. I'm gonna find out. 582 00:22:53,919 --> 00:22:55,399 Really? Don't do this. Just tell me. 583 00:22:55,439 --> 00:22:57,080 All I'm saying is, it's you I'm thinking about. 584 00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:58,720 Bloody hell. It's Anna, isn't it? What? No. 585 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,120 She's gonna get the job. Is she? 586 00:23:00,159 --> 00:23:01,360 Come on, what's she offered you? This is all you. 587 00:23:01,399 --> 00:23:03,280 It's Development, isn't it? Or Research? 588 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,480 I haven't said anything. Great. So that just leaves me and bloody Will. 589 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,679 I thought he was a nice guy. What? 590 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,000 See? I told you. It's you I'm thinking about. 591 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,800 Monday. Some more things have happened, 592 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,800 and it's the start of a new and different week at the BBC. 593 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,800 Anna Rampton is arriving at New Broadcasting House 594 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,360 this morning, with even more of an awareness than usual 595 00:23:40,399 --> 00:23:43,280 of being a woman walking towards her destiny. 596 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,000 But, meanwhile, inside in the Syncopaticafe, 597 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,000 writer Dan Shepherd has come down to London from Wetherby 598 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,520 and has asked if he can come in 599 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,480 and talk to Lucy Freeman about the future. 600 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,320 'Cause the thing is, I don't know anything about Walthamstow. 601 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,240 No, no. I don't even know how you get there. 602 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,200 Like I said on the phone, it's not about the script, really, Dan. 603 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,240 Yeah, and I suppose you just get a bus. 604 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,600 Since Generic Head of Comedy and/or Drama, Matt Taverner's idea 605 00:24:03,639 --> 00:24:06,520 of setting Dan's small town love story, either Home Truth 606 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,399 or Neighbourhood, in Walthamstow instead of Scarborough, 607 00:24:09,439 --> 00:24:10,840 he's had time to think about that. 608 00:24:10,879 --> 00:24:12,720 Depending on how you feel about it all, 609 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,480 I think we might actually be able to make this work in our favour 610 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,560 if we're really careful about it. Yeah. 611 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,200 Dan? 612 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,960 Yeah, no, it's fine. I think I might have had enough though, really. 613 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,879 No, no. If that's okay with you? 614 00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:24,600 Obviously, I don't want to... No, you mustn't. You can't just give up. 615 00:24:24,639 --> 00:24:26,960 Actually, I should probably get off, really. No, no. 616 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,439 Don't want to miss my train. 617 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,560 No, 'cause if you give up, then I mean... You can't. 618 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,439 The thing is I'm looking after my landlady's cat. So... 619 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,320 Yes, but you mustn't let it defeat you, Dan. 620 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:35,760 No, it's okay. It's just old. 621 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,720 It keeps forgetting where it is and then it panics. 622 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,040 It's nearly 10:00 623 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,560 and Ian is on his way back from somewhere for a meeting. 624 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,080 Hi. Yes. Hi, yes. 625 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:49,480 I didn't have you down as a smoker. 626 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,879 No, I'm not. Right. 627 00:24:50,919 --> 00:24:52,760 Yes, they're horrid, yes. 628 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,200 You okay? 629 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,480 Yes, no. I'm fine, thanks. No, yes. I'm just out here. 630 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,200 Right. 631 00:25:04,399 --> 00:25:06,120 Yeah, so, first of all, we should probably say, 632 00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:08,679 "All hail Her Royal Highness, Princess Anna of Better." 633 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:09,879 Right, yes. Yay! 634 00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:11,080 Brilliant! Okay, no. 635 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:12,760 All hail. Yeah, great. 636 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,919 Meanwhile, inside, in Tommy Cooper, 637 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,800 momentous and much anticipated events are unfolding. 638 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,520 I'm sorry, Simon. Can I ask something? 639 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,960 Yes, of course, Tracey. Of course you can. 640 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,159 I've got to say, as something of a woman myself, 641 00:25:23,199 --> 00:25:25,199 it's great that Anna has got this job, obviously. 642 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,360 Yes. Sure. 643 00:25:26,399 --> 00:25:28,000 Brilliant. Go, Anna! 644 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,360 I'm sorry, I am going to say this, Director of Better what? 645 00:25:31,399 --> 00:25:32,840 Ah, yes. No, very good. 646 00:25:32,879 --> 00:25:35,520 With Anna Rampton now officially confirmed 647 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,600 as the BBC's first ever Director of Better, 648 00:25:38,639 --> 00:25:41,480 this is a potentially defining moment for everyone else. 649 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,360 Yes, no. Brilliant, Tracey. Brilliant. 650 00:25:43,399 --> 00:25:45,320 Anna, I don't know if you want to say a few words at this point. 651 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:46,720 No. No? Okay. 652 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,320 Not at this stage, no. Brilliant. 653 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,240 The fact is there'll be an email introducing myself globally. 654 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,280 Cool. Of course. Brilliant. 655 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,840 Right. I'm totally good with that. 656 00:25:52,879 --> 00:25:54,520 All righty. So, moving on... 657 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,679 No. Hang on a minute. Neil, yes. Of course. 658 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,280 What's the bloody answer? Brilliant. 659 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,480 I mean, it's got to mean something, hasn't it? 660 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Exactly, yes. Thank you, Neil, yes. 661 00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,800 No. Brilliant, Neil, really. 662 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,600 No, listen, for what it's worth, 663 00:26:04,639 --> 00:26:06,080 I guess, in Tony's head, 664 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:07,760 I mean, listen, what can any of us know about Tony's head? 665 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,080 But I think basically it's about, you know, it's about interrogating 666 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,840 everything we currently do and asking the question, you know... 667 00:26:13,879 --> 00:26:16,960 Asking the, you know, the... Yes. 668 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,439 "Is this as good as it could be?" 669 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,399 Is this as good as it could be? 670 00:26:23,439 --> 00:26:25,000 And I guess, from now on, if it doesn't get past the Director of Better, 671 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,199 we don't do it. 672 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,879 No. Right. 673 00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:29,639 So, it is a really big job, then? Oh, yes. No, absolutely, yes. 674 00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:31,199 Yes. No, sure. 675 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,919 I got to say, that is exactly what I thought. Righty-ho. 676 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,439 Bloody great. Goody-good. 677 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,080 I don't want to work on Family bloody Fuck Up, 678 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:40,639 or whatever it's gonna be called. 679 00:26:40,679 --> 00:26:42,399 Right. That's not what I thought I'd end up doing. 680 00:26:42,439 --> 00:26:45,280 What did you think you'd end up doing? I don't know. 681 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,000 Back outside, meanwhile, as Head of Values, 682 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,879 Ian has made an executive decision 683 00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:51,840 to be late for a meeting for once, 684 00:26:51,879 --> 00:26:55,800 to offer Lucy some carrot cake and listen to her talk about her own job instead. 685 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080 I don't have to do this. I could get a job behind a bar or something. 686 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:00,960 Well, yes... You know, or work in a garden centre. 687 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,919 Yes, no. Garden centre's good. 688 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,800 I'd be really good at that, too. 689 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,399 No responsibility. 690 00:27:07,439 --> 00:27:08,840 I've always wanted to do that. 691 00:27:08,879 --> 00:27:10,879 No, 'cause the thing with that is, in summer you're outside 692 00:27:10,919 --> 00:27:12,240 and if it's raining or in winter, 693 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,919 you can drink tea all day long. Yes. 694 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,439 So, either way, you can't really lose. Exactly. Yes, no. 695 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:19,760 Mmm. 696 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,000 Thanks. That was really kind of you. 697 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,040 Well, no. It was great. Yes, no. It looks nice. 698 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,120 Really good carrot cake. Yes. 699 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,639 Also, thanks for, you know, for listening. Well, no. 700 00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:32,720 Helping me reason it out. It's kind of scary and exciting all at the same time. 701 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,320 What is? 702 00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:35,600 One of those things, I think, "Why didn't I do it ages ago?" 703 00:27:35,639 --> 00:27:37,120 No, wait. Lucy... 704 00:27:37,159 --> 00:27:38,560 Why has it taken me this long? No, no, no, no. 705 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,960 What? No, Lucy, you can't do this. 706 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,800 You can't just... 707 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,840 I mean, you're the sort of person that BBC depends on. 708 00:27:43,879 --> 00:27:47,800 Yes, I know. That's why I want to leave. 709 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,439 The BBC is facing mounting criticism tonight 710 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,240 after it announced that Evan Davis is to appear as a contestant 711 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,600 in the next series of Strictly Come Dancing. 712 00:27:56,639 --> 00:27:58,439 And she's, like, there's gonna be this new job. 713 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,800 Do we really have to do this? Yeah, welcome to my world. 714 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,159 Basically, they'd like it to be you. 715 00:28:02,199 --> 00:28:03,600 You mean, you? Me. Yes, I know. Yes! 716 00:28:03,639 --> 00:28:05,199 Right. Yes, I know. Me! 717 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,679 Ian Fletcher, this is a bit of an own goal for you, isn't it? 718 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,679 The fact is, this would be some kind of event, would it? 719 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,120 Another example of both you and the BBC being, frankly, a bit useless. 720 00:28:13,159 --> 00:28:14,639 Yes, I know. 721 00:28:14,679 --> 00:28:16,520 Anna has locked herself in the toilet. In the toilet? 722 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,840 Ugh. Just say something, you stupid bitch. 723 00:28:18,879 --> 00:28:20,399 The fact is, I can't do this. 724 00:28:20,439 --> 00:28:22,280 You are so going to kill here, girl. 725 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,439 Thanks, Ian. That was great. 726 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,480 No, I don't want this. I don't want it. 60529

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