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Standby, two.
Mix through. Cue on two.
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The BBC has
announced the appointment
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of ex-head of Olympic
Deliverance, Ian Fletcher,
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as its new Head of Values.
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Time now
for the Shipping Forecast.
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Superimpose.
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It's Tuesday,
another in a long line
of Tuesdays
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at the BBC's
New Broadcasting House
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headquarters in central London.
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Morning!
Yes, hi.
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The man with the values.
Hi, how are you, Simon?
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Bearing up. Bearing up.
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Good. Actually,
whilst I've got you, Simon...
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Brilliant.
I see tomorrow's
the closing date.
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Sorry. Sorry, Ian.
Can I just...
Is that a titanium one?
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What? No, this is just,
you know, it's a normal one.
Yes, no, brilliant.
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So, I was going to ask Tony...
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Sorry, can I just...
I mean, can I have a quick...
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Well, I mean...
Would you mind?
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Right.
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Yes, you see, I'm not sure
the extra 400 quid's worth it.
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Right.
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So, that's titanium?
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Supposed to be.
I'm not sure you can
tell the difference.
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Anyway...
I feel a bit of a mug.
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Right. Yes. So, anyway,
whilst I've got you, Simon...
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Tomorrow is the closing date
for applications for the new
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and highly senior
Director of Better post.
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I mean, obviously,
I wasn't consulted about
any of this originally.
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No, I know, honestly.
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And I still think
it's a ludicrous title.
Yes, no, brilliant.
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But since it does seem
to be happening, I think,
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and this is something
I'm going to mention
to Tony...
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Right. Jolly good.
When it comes
to the interview process,
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I think it would be
an appropriate thing,
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and actually a healthy thing,
for Values to be represented
in that process.
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Yes, no, brilliant.
As I say, this is something
I'm just flagging up now,
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but it is something I'm gonna
be mentioning to Tony.
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Oh, really good, Ian.
Very brave.
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Well, no, it's just... Brave?
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Despite all his
wisdom and experience
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as the BBC's Director of
Strategic Governance,
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Simon Harwood is still
not sure whether the laws
of management
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allow the Head of Values to
sit on the interviewing panel
for a new Director-level post.
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I mean, maybe if someone had
told me this to begin with,
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I might've applied
for it myself.
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Yes, no. Very good.
I'm serious.
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Yes, no. I'd like to
see Tony's face.
What?
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Well, the idea of his
own creation, Captain Values,
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taking his hand off
the controls to apply
for another job...
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He'd practically have a fit.
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Oh, great.
So, I'm too important
to apply for the job,
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but I'm not important enough
to sit on the
interviewing panel.
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Oh, no, no.
It's a unique position, Ian.
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Yes.
Yes, no. Brilliant,
brilliant, brilliant.
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Yes, brilliant. Yes.
Yes, no. It's all good.
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Will.
Oh, yeah. Hi, yeah.
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You're already in?
Yeah. I know.
Yeah, mental, yeah.
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But Ian isn't the only one
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with professional issues
on his mind.
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Following a spectacular coup
involving the BBC's
Wimbledon coverage
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and his sister's connection
with tennis star
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga,
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intern Will Humphries
has been offered
a so-far temporary post
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as assistant
to the Head of Values.
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So today, you've got,
like, a meeting with Alan...
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Yeah, no. Hang on...
Alan who?
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Crap, I think that's
a spelling mistake.
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Alan Yentob?
Yeah, Yentob, yeah.
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Yentob...
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Yes?
Yeah, at 10:00.
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10:00?
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As part of his new role,
Will has established himself
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at a desk
in the same general area
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as fellow assistant
and colleague, Izzy Gould,
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as well as to a lesser extent,
Jack Patterson.
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Yes, I think that
might be yesterday.
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Yeah, no. Say again?
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Are you sure
you're looking at today?
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Yeah. Okay, no.
Well, anyway.
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Yeah, that's what
you did yesterday.
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Yes, but that's
always good to know.
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Yeah. No worries, yeah, cool.
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Yes, no. Brilliant.
So before we get started,
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this morning's news
from Tony-land...
Great.
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I mean, I think there'll be
an email about this anyway,
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but he's got this thing
in his head.
All right.
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I mean, it was after he came
back from Kerala, really.
Oh, bloody hell.
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By 9:00, Ian is
already taking part
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in the Damage Limitation meeting
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because that is
what he's doing today.
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But Simon has some good news
to share before they get on
to the damage to be limited.
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And this'll be because
we've all got to be
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more bendy and flexible
from now on, is it, Simon?
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Yes, no. Very good, Tracey.
Very strong.
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I'm quite happy
with where my toes are.
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I don't need to
bloody touch them.
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As part
of his vision for "a happier,
healthier and better BBC,"
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Director General
Lord Tony Hall has decided
that lunchtime Pilates classes
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will be provided
free of charge
for anyone who wants them.
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I mean, I assume this isn't
actually compulsory, Simon?
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Oh, no, no, no, no. No.
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No. I mean,
for what it's worth,
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it's just something
Tony's got a bit obsessed
with personally, that's all.
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Right.
Oh, okay.
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It's for anyone who wants it. Cool.
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I think the idea is, he might
turn up himself occasionally. Right.
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The what? He, himself?
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Yes. I gather so, yes. Right.
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Okay.
Groovy.
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All righty,
jolly good. Onwards. Brilliant.
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So, Neil...
Righty-ho.
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Where are we are up to with
this whole Evan Davis thing?
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Oh, right. Okay.
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Evan Davis?
Yes.
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Yeah, basically, we're fucked.
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Brilliant.
No. That's not very good.
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In the past 24 hours,
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rumours have started
to appear on Twitter
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that the BBC's Newsnight
anchor, Evan Davis,
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is to be a contestant
on the forthcoming series
of Strictly Come Dancing.
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Guys, can I just say, we are
taking heavy incoming on this
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in the press office
this morning.
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Yeah, I'm not surprised.
We love Strictly.
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And I'm not being negative
or anything, but this is only
gonna get worse.
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Such a cool show.
The fact is,
this is important.
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Yeah, I know it is.
Yes, no. Very good.
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It's hard enough to keep
the guy still as it is.
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The last thing we need
is to let him anywhere
near sequins.
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The fact remains
that Newsnight is actually
a serious show.
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This is an example of an area
where the BBC
needs to be better.
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Yes, no.
Brilliant, Anna, brilliant.
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Very good.
Yes, no. Very strong.
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So, hang on, are we saying
these rumours are true?
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Sure.
Yeah, they are, yeah.
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They are?
Yeah, no. He's obsessed
with the idea already.
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No, I get it. Totally get it.
I mean, cool guy, cool show.
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But how did this...
These are both BBC shows.
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I mean, I have to say
it's not Evan's fault, okay?
It wasn't his idea.
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He's been signed up
by some agency.
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An agency?
Cool.
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And they think this would
be good for "Brand Evan".
Brand Evan?
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Yeah, so now, apparently,
we have to go through them
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whenever we want
to talk about it.
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Sure, no.
Totally good with that.
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What kind of agency are we
talking about here, Neil?
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Oh, I don't know.
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Hang on, I've got
a bloody email
about it somewhere.
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Can I just say,
not being funny or anything,
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but I've got a feeling
in my bottom about this
and not in a nice way.
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Okay, here we go.
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Oh, right. Okay.
What?
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No, sure. Okay.
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No.
All right,
here we go.
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Okay. So, here's the thing
with this, guys.
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This is like,
the best thing ever.
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Hi, Lucy. Hi.
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How are you?
Yes, no.
I'm fine, thanks. Yes.
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Can I just ask, have you done
something to your hair?
My hair?
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Yeah, I don't know.
No, not really. Why?
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Have you not?
I don't know...
What do you want, David?
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No, no, no. Nothing.
Have you got a minute?
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Now?
Yeah, just while you're
drinking your coffee.
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Uh...
Would you mind if
we went somewhere private?
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Somewhere private?
Yeah.
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In here?
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I wanted to ask if...
What?
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I wanted to ask if...
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Actually, this is ridiculous.
This is a radio studio.
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I know.
It's soundproof.
No one can hear us in here.
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No, I just wanted to ask
if I could put your name down
as a referee?
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Oh, right.
You applying for a job?
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Well...
You gonna leave us?
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No, no, not leaving. Oh.
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Entertainment Format
Executive David Wilkes
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has made a big decision
about himself
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and, as a result,
has a private favour to ask
Producer Lucy Freeman.
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At this stage, I don't want,
you know, everyone to...
Oh, God.
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I don't want everyone...
You're not.
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You know I trust you.
You are, aren't you?
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You're applying for
Director of bloody Better?
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Now, I know
what you're thinking...
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Well, no...
Yes, I am actually. Yes.
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I won't get it. No.
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I know. But do you know what?
Anyone can apply for it.
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And the thing is, it's like,
just by applying,
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it puts you in that category
straight away, doesn't it?
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What, the category of
people who haven't got it?
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You should apply for it,
Lucy. Why don't you apply?
Me?
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Yes. No, but seriously,
I respect you, Lucy.
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And I like to think
that we work together
closely and well.
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You... Right.
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I mean, apart
from anything else, Siobhan,
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the issue is
conflict of interest
for a start.
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Nuh-uh. It's not an issue.
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I don't see how you can be
responsible for Brand BBC
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and Brand Evan Davis
at the same time.
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No, sure. I do everything at
the same time. It's what I do.
Like, get over it.
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Bollocks.
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Meanwhile, back in
Damage Limitation,
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Siobhan is explaining exactly
why BBC Two Newsnight anchor
Evan Davis
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appearing on
Strictly Come Dancing
is such a cool idea.
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But as Current Controller
of News and Current Affairs,
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Neil Reid is not
fully convinced.
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Have you got any idea
what you're doing here?
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Okay. So here's
the thing with this.
Here's what it is.
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What it is, is, okay,
so the audience for Strictly
is, like, everybody. Okay?
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Well...
No, it's not a question.
It is.
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And the audience for Newsnight
is, like, nobody. Right?
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That's a slight
over-simplification.
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No, sure. I'm good with that.
So, like, Evan does Strictly.
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Okay? He's like one cool guy.
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Suddenly, I'm, like,
"I love this guy."
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Like, "You're telling me
he's got his own show?"
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It's not a fucking chat show.
Okay, sure. Whatever.
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Interesting though, Neil. Yes.
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Interesting way of...
Yes, well, shall we
come back to that?
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Absolutely, yes.
Suddenly, it's like you just
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rhinocerised your audience
for Newsnight overnight.
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We are sitting in the best
known news organisation
in the world, okay?
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Hurrah.
Yay.
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Sorry, Neil.
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Newsnight is the current
affairs show we're judged on,
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basically because we haven't
got any other current affairs
shows left and believe...
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Shame.
Believe it or not,
people trust us.
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God knows why, but they do.
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I mean, we get it wrong
from time to time.
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Brilliant.
Yes.
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Yes, we do, Neil. Yes.
Of course we do.
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Yes.
But we work bloody hard...
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Now, Neil...
Look, I just want to see
what it sounds like, okay?
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Right.
I never get
to say this stuff.
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No, of course. Yes. Brilliant.
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Go Neil.
Can you imagine
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what will happen if
the main anchor of that show
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starts turning up
on Saturday nights
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in spray-on trousers
and sparkly hair,
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clamped to some half-naked
orange-faced girl?
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Yes, thank you. I can, Neil.
No, not you, Tracey.
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No, I know. But I'm just
saying I can imagine it.
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Right, yes.
And on another of
our own channels.
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No. I mean, I have to say,
with my Way Ahead hat on,
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with charter renewal
and everything,
243
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I mean, this really is not
going to look great, is it?
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Exactly, no. Brilliant.
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The fact is,
this needs to not happen.
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No. I mean,
it's an interesting one
though, isn't it?
247
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And it needs to
not happen now.
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I mean, I don't know,
I may have got this wrong,
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but as the guy with
the Way Ahead hat, Ian... Right.
250
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And of course,
the Values hat,
251
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I mean, honestly,
you've got so many hats...
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Yes, all right.
Are you saying
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this is something you really
want to be across personally
in an ideal world?
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I mean, certainly...
I mean, as I say,
this is a really...
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Brilliant.
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I mean, this is a core issue
for all of us, I think.
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Brilliant, Ian. Brilliant. Yep.
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Okay. All righty. Fabulous. Yes.
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Right.
Righty-ho.
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Crap.
261
00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,319
Meanwhile, at his
new desk in the general area
of new colleague, Izzy Gould,
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Will Humphries is between
sessions on his Syncopatico
induction course.
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Crap.
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Whoa.
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Jesus. What?
What?
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No, no, no.
What's wrong?
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The theory is,
that by the end of the course,
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he'll be automatically synced
to everyone and everything
around him,
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whether they realise it
or not.
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That's me!
Yeah. Say again.
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That's my stuff
you've got there.
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Whoa.
I was working on that.
What've you done?
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That's amazing.
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It just does it.
We're doing Syncopatipair
this morning.
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Syncopatipair?
Yeah.
276
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Right. Well...
And the same thing happened
with this girl there.
277
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Okay, you have to undo this.
The guy said he'd never
seen that before.
278
00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,160
You have to undo it now.
Yeah, good luck.
279
00:11:09,199 --> 00:11:10,800
Yeah. 'Cause, like,
I don't know what I did.
280
00:11:10,839 --> 00:11:12,319
Right, okay. Give me that.
281
00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:15,839
Is it always girls?
What? Yeah, I don't know.
282
00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,079
Because, you 've got to say,
that's pretty impressive.
283
00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,319
Okay, System Preferences.
You're gonna need
your password.
284
00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,680
Yeah.
Want to put it in?
285
00:11:22,719 --> 00:11:23,800
Yeah, okay.
286
00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,719
Crap.
Not having much
luck there, are you?
287
00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,839
Okay, cool, yeah,
so it's not working.
At least we know that.
288
00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,920
Okay, what is it?
289
00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:40,560
You can't just
have his password.
290
00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:41,959
I don't care, he can
choose a new one.
What is it, Will?
291
00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,079
Yeah. Yeah, so...
292
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Will?
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I.
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Z.
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Z.
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Z.
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Y.
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Y. Right.
299
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Yeah.
300
00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,760
Then, G.
301
00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:02,880
G.
Yep.
302
00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,680
O.
O-U-L-D.
303
00:12:04,719 --> 00:12:06,800
Yeah. O-U-L-D. Yeah.
304
00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,120
And then 4.
4?
305
00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,640
Yeah, I don't know.
That's just, like, a number.
306
00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,000
Yeah, crap. Right.
307
00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,120
You can try my name,
if you like.
308
00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:17,319
Yeah.
Shall I spell it for you?
309
00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,400
Yeah, no. Say again.
Shut up.
310
00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,439
In fact, I sometimes say
to my beginners
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that Pilates
is about three things,
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breathing, engaging your core,
and posture.
313
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Or, as we call them,
the pelvic three. Brilliant.
314
00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,000
Meanwhile, it's Friday.
315
00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,439
And there's an impressive
turnout for the first ever
316
00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,120
free lunchtime
BBC Pilates session.
317
00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,680
Even though Director General
Lord Tony Hall himself
hasn't so far arrived yet.
318
00:12:41,719 --> 00:12:44,439
Now, especially
if you're just starting...
No. The fact is that...
319
00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,160
So we're not
actually talking.
The fact is, I...
320
00:12:46,199 --> 00:12:48,520
We're not talking,
we're just listening
at this point.
321
00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:51,000
So, in Pilates, we breathe in
through the nose...
322
00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,959
Two, three, four.
323
00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,800
And then we're exhaling
though the mouth...
324
00:12:55,839 --> 00:12:58,439
Two, three, four.
325
00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,560
Inhaling through. Yes.
So, we're doing it now. Yes?
326
00:13:00,599 --> 00:13:04,000
Inhaling through the nose.
Two, three, four.
327
00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,120
And then when we exhale,
we're going to suck the belly
button right into the spine
328
00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,520
Two, three, four.
329
00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:13,360
Can I ask a question?
Of course. Yeah.
330
00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,280
When we're breathing,
should we be two, three,
fouring, like you?
331
00:13:16,319 --> 00:13:17,480
Well...
No.
332
00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,160
'Cause I'm not being
funny or anything,
333
00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:20,640
but what with
inhaling and exhaling,
334
00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:21,839
and sucking and
what have you...
335
00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,199
No, you don't have to do that.
The fact is...
336
00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,319
Okay, and stop breathing.
337
00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:27,760
Sorry, Anna. Sorry, guys.
338
00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,520
Uh, we are actually...
No, that's okay, Jack.
Come in.
339
00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:30,719
No, it's just, I finally
got hold of Alice
340
00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,520
in Tony's office. Yes.
341
00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,240
Just so you now, he's not
actually in this morning. Right.
342
00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,400
Okay.
Apparently, he
and Simon went to...
343
00:13:36,439 --> 00:13:37,760
Yes, okay.
Yes, so I just...
344
00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,480
Yes. Okay, good. Sure.
345
00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,240
Right. Okay, if we're done?
346
00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,760
So, what we're going to do,
we're going to take
what we've learned
347
00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,599
about our breathing
and we're going to...
348
00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,640
Yeah. So, I'm gonna go,
I'm afraid.
349
00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:52,160
Right.
Sorry.
350
00:13:52,199 --> 00:13:54,719
No. Well, that's...
The fact is,
I've run out of time.
351
00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,160
Uh, good luck with
the breathing, obviously. Sure.
352
00:13:58,199 --> 00:14:01,079
Perhaps another time.
Well, yes.
Let's hope so, perhaps.
353
00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,439
Yes.
354
00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,199
Okay. So, what we're
going to do now,
355
00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,719
we're going to take what we've
learned from our breathing
356
00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,040
and we're gonna get familiar
with our pelvic girdle.
357
00:14:18,079 --> 00:14:19,560
All right. Okay.
Oh, my God.
358
00:14:19,599 --> 00:14:21,560
Actually, do you know what?
Just while we've stopped...
359
00:14:21,599 --> 00:14:23,000
Okay, sure.
360
00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,240
I think I'm gonna
have to go as well. Brilliant.
361
00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,160
Right.
Yes, no. Very good.
362
00:14:27,199 --> 00:14:30,280
Sorry. I mean, if that's
gonna be all right.
No, yes. I mean...
363
00:14:30,319 --> 00:14:32,400
Really sorry. It's just, um,
364
00:14:32,439 --> 00:14:35,520
some stuff I promised I'd look
at for this afternoon.
365
00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,479
Well, again, maybe next time.
No, sure. Absolutely.
Really enjoyed it, by the way.
366
00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,360
Good.
Brilliant.
367
00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,079
Thank you so much. Yeah, no.
Really, really great.
Have fun, everybody.
368
00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,160
Righty-ho.
369
00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,640
Okay. Well, I have to say
it is unusual
to lose so many this early.
370
00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,120
Yes.
But the fewer the number,
the greater the glory.
371
00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,120
Can I just say,
just so you know,
I'm not going anywhere.
372
00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,319
Sure.
'Cause I'm not being
funny or anything,
373
00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,280
I don't know about you,
but if you get a chance
374
00:15:02,319 --> 00:15:04,319
to get familiar with
your pelvic girdle for free,
375
00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:05,439
I'm gonna take it.
376
00:15:05,479 --> 00:15:07,000
Oh, no. Tell me about it.
377
00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,120
Hi.
Oh, hi. Lucy, yes.
How are you?
378
00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,319
Yes, fine. Yes. Great.
379
00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,839
Actually, I've been...
That's really great.
380
00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,719
Listen, I was gonna
email you, actually.
Yes, so was I.
381
00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,160
No, great. I was gonna ask
if you'd be able to just
382
00:15:30,199 --> 00:15:31,920
scribble something
down on paper for me.
383
00:15:31,959 --> 00:15:34,120
Scribble something down?
Yeah, or you know,
or in an email.
384
00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,240
Just a record of where
we're up to with Home Truth.
385
00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,240
Oh, okay. Right, Okay. Yeah.
386
00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,719
At the moment,
Generic Head of Comedy
and/or Drama, Matt Taverner,
387
00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,640
is a particularly busy man.
388
00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,160
And among the many projects
that are currently
uppermost in his mind
389
00:15:47,199 --> 00:15:50,360
is his interview for
the new Director of Better
post at the end of the week.
390
00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,240
When would you
need this thing by?
391
00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,439
Sure, it'd be really good
to get something
in the next few days.
392
00:15:54,479 --> 00:15:56,280
Right.
Tomorrow would be
really great.
393
00:15:56,319 --> 00:15:58,199
'Cause I still haven't managed
to get hold of Dan
since the meeting.
394
00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,199
No, sure.
He's not returning emails
or picking up messages.
395
00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:02,719
Sure.
I'm a bit worried, actually.
396
00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,560
I'm not sure
what's happened to him.
397
00:16:04,599 --> 00:16:07,120
No, sure. That's really great.
What do you think
about Neighbourhoods?
398
00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,439
Neighbourhood? Sorry.
Yeah.
399
00:16:08,479 --> 00:16:10,199
As a title, I mean.
A title?
400
00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,040
Yeah, I don't know.
I've just got this feeling...
401
00:16:12,079 --> 00:16:14,400
But after the meeting, Matt,
Home Truth was about
the only thing left.
402
00:16:14,439 --> 00:16:16,040
Yeah, no. Sure, absolutely. Right.
403
00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:18,079
Thanks, Lucy.
That'd be really great.
404
00:16:39,439 --> 00:16:41,319
If Evan Davis does
Strictly Come Dancing,
405
00:16:41,359 --> 00:16:42,760
he's crossed the fucking
Rubicon, okay?
406
00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,040
Excuse me?
407
00:16:44,079 --> 00:16:45,680
He's never doing
Newsnight again.
408
00:16:45,719 --> 00:16:47,880
Okay, so that's, like,
discrimination. Okay?
409
00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,240
What?
Well, hang on...
410
00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,079
So that's illegal
right off of the bat.
411
00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,800
It's another morning
and Ian has asked Neil,
Tracey and Siobhan
412
00:16:54,839 --> 00:16:57,079
to come in early
for a breakfast meeting.
413
00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,760
Overnight, the contestants
for the next series of
Strictly Come Dancing
414
00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,800
have been officially
and irrevocably announced.
415
00:17:02,839 --> 00:17:04,760
Okay, okay.
Here's the deal here, okay?
416
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,760
Evan is like a living,
breathing... I mean,
he's like a person. Okay?
417
00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,399
He's always wanted to dance.
418
00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,319
He's, like, obsessed
with Kylie.
419
00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,000
Like, he can do
Can't Get You Out of My Head
with all the moves, okay?
420
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,919
This is like his moment, okay?
421
00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,480
This is where
shit happens for him.
422
00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,560
This is gonna
change his life. Right.
423
00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:23,359
Blimey.
Bollocks.
424
00:17:23,399 --> 00:17:24,879
Okay, he doesn't do Strictly,
he's not doing
Newslight. Okay?
425
00:17:24,919 --> 00:17:26,280
Newsnight.
Sure. Whatever. Period.
426
00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:28,200
That's the deal here, guys.
Fine. Okay.
427
00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,320
Evan's actually said
that to you?
Sure.
428
00:17:30,360 --> 00:17:32,720
No, I'm sorry, Siobhan,
I don't...
I'm saying it to you now.
429
00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:33,919
Okay? Get over it.
430
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,560
Fine, great. Deal. Right.
431
00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,639
Cool.
Great.
432
00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:37,760
Sure.
Fine.
433
00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,399
Right, okay. Good.
434
00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,320
Do you know what?
Maybe they're not
a Scottish family. Okay?
435
00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:44,000
Maybe they're, like,
an Indian family, okay?
436
00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,080
What is it
those Indian things...
It's like you sit on them
437
00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:48,120
and you hit them
at the same time?
438
00:17:48,159 --> 00:17:51,000
For a while now,
David Wilkes has been working
on the format
439
00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,080
of Family Face-Off,
a theoretical idea
for a new BBC One show.
440
00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:57,080
But drawing
on past experience,
441
00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,159
Head of Output, Anna Rampton,
has induced
442
00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,399
Producer Lucy Freeman
to work alongside him,
443
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,440
in order to help him
make it less theoretical.
444
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,360
And the other one
can do, like, twerking.
Yeah, all right.
445
00:18:05,399 --> 00:18:08,120
And the great thing
about this format, Anna...
446
00:18:08,159 --> 00:18:10,320
There are some
details still to be finalised.
447
00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:12,000
But luckily,
Anna has the ability
448
00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,520
to see past detail
to the potential benefits
449
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,440
of a show that's mainstream,
warm, inclusive, and hers.
450
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,159
The fact is,
people don't think in formats.
They think in faces.
451
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,159
I know, exactly. Yes. Right.
452
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,399
If this thing's gonna work,
we need contemporary faces
attached from the start.
453
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,760
Right.
Contemporary faces?
454
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,159
Yes. Exactly, yes. Yes.
455
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,840
Yes.
Right.
456
00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:37,120
So, a thought I had, guys,
and stay with me on this,
457
00:18:37,159 --> 00:18:38,879
Idris Elba.
458
00:18:38,919 --> 00:18:40,240
Right.
Idris Elba?
459
00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,840
I know.
460
00:18:41,879 --> 00:18:43,919
But he's not actually
a presenter, is he?
No, he isn't. No.
461
00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,080
I know, but he's just
such a beautiful man.
462
00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:47,200
Right.
Okay.
463
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,560
And the thing is,
do you know what?
464
00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:49,800
Sometimes you just
got to make things happen,
465
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,240
instead of hoping
they'll happen.
466
00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,960
The fact is, no one's
hoping that'll happen. No.
467
00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,280
Least of all Idris.
Right, no. Okay.
468
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,600
Can I just say,
it's difficult this, isn't it?
469
00:18:58,639 --> 00:19:00,560
But, hang on, sorry.
Surely, um...
470
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:01,879
'Cause I'm only...
I'm just catching up here.
471
00:19:01,919 --> 00:19:03,560
This is absolutely
your thing, David.
472
00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,000
Oh, I know.
But what is it
you're wanting to do here?
473
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,200
To do?
Yes.
474
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,919
No, sorry. You lost me
already there, Lucy.
475
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,080
I mean, if you really
want to make
this an inclusive thing...
476
00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:13,879
Yes. Exactly, yes.
If that's what this is about.
477
00:19:13,919 --> 00:19:16,320
Well, the fact is,
this is about being better.
Oh, absolutely. Yes.
478
00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:17,800
And inclusive, obviously. Yes.
479
00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,200
Okay, so there are
lots of ways...
480
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,480
Ainsley Harriott. No.
481
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,360
No, okay. Sorry, Lucy.
482
00:19:22,399 --> 00:19:24,520
No, I was just...
There are lots of ways of,
I mean, I don't know...
483
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,679
If you've got some kid
who can play like
the saxophone,
484
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,639
get Courtney Pine in
as a mentor or judge.
485
00:19:28,679 --> 00:19:30,440
Yes.
486
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,280
You know, or get
Madhur Jaffrey if you've
got some Dad cooking curry.
487
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,720
Genius.
Yes, exactly.
488
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,159
You know, or get
what's-his-name
if you've got a kid
489
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,960
who can do cartwheels
or whatever. Uh...
490
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,360
Gymnast, did Strictly...
Ooh, ooh, Louis Smith!
491
00:19:39,399 --> 00:19:40,960
Louis Smith. Yes. Yes.
492
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,159
Ah, lovely Louis.
Stop it, Lucy.
Yes. Okay, good.
493
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,919
And, I don't know,
Family Face-Off,
if you really want inclusive,
494
00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,399
call it One Big Family
or something instead.
495
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,800
One Big Family?
496
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:58,320
Can I just say,
I can feel the wand of
history passing over us.
497
00:19:58,360 --> 00:19:59,760
But, like I say,
this isn't my area.
498
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,360
I don't know
how these things work.
499
00:20:01,399 --> 00:20:03,960
So, in this scenario, Ian,
Evan would be like
500
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,040
an undercover reporter
on Strictly, would he?
501
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,159
Well...
Cool.
502
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,280
Undercover?
503
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:09,800
Yes.
He's Evan fucking Davis.
504
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,800
He so is.
505
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,240
Back in
Frankie Howerd, they may be
in the Last Chance Saloon
506
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,200
with Evan Davis-gate, but Ian
has come up with an idea
507
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,919
that could just be the best
option available to them,
508
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,000
given that they haven't got
any other options.
509
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,080
But I suppose the question is,
is there an angle on Strictly
510
00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:25,679
that a programme
like Newsnight
511
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,879
might just be doing
a report on?
This is a joke, right?
512
00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:30,399
Well...
Evan Davis embedded
in Elstree?
513
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,840
Well, okay, if you like.
514
00:20:31,879 --> 00:20:34,040
All I'm asking... I mean,
would that help us at all?
515
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,440
Right.
No. Bollocks, Ian.
516
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,679
Sure, I'm totally
good with that.
517
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,440
But if the idea is to work,
518
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,159
the challenge
is to find an angle
on Strictly Come Dancing
519
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,720
that's serious enough
to be worthy of Newsnight.
520
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,000
When you say an angle, Ian...
I mean, is there...
521
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,080
Okay, okay. Shoes.
522
00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:49,120
Well, no.
Shoes?
523
00:20:49,159 --> 00:20:51,280
Like how everyone loves heels.
I've seen stuff on that.
That's such a cool idea.
524
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,200
Yes, I'm not sure that's
really Newsnight territory,
is it, Neil?
525
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,040
You expect me to answer that?
Right. Okay, no.
526
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,919
Okay, okay, gay stuff.
"Gay stuff?"
527
00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,800
What?
Like, why we're all
gay these days.
528
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,679
I mean, that's a no-brainer.
Right, I think that's perhaps
a bit...
529
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,280
Can I just say, I'm finding
it difficult to think here.
530
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,639
I just mean, is there
something that feels
531
00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:07,679
a bit more heavyweight
than, you know, shoes?
532
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,840
Heavyweight?
Yes.
533
00:21:08,879 --> 00:21:10,560
Okay, right.
Fat people.
534
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,080
No. Not fat people, Siobhan.
That's really not...
That's not very...
535
00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,000
It's not very good.
Well, I mean, it's...
Although...
536
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,240
What?
I mean, I suppose
body image is something.
537
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,720
Sure.
Body image?
538
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,280
Oh, right.
You know, the whole
body stereotyping issue.
539
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,360
Sure, exactly. Fat people.
Like I said, it's perfect.
540
00:21:25,399 --> 00:21:28,240
I mean, it is an area that's
in the air at the moment.
541
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,360
Yes.
I mean, it really is,
sort of... It...
542
00:21:31,399 --> 00:21:33,360
Actually, could you stop
doing that, please, Siobhan?
Sure.
543
00:21:33,399 --> 00:21:34,600
Yes.
It's just a bit difficult...
544
00:21:34,639 --> 00:21:36,000
Sure, I'm good with that.
Yeah, shut up.
545
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,919
Right. No, yes, it's just...
546
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,560
Like, I had to finish. Right?
547
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,280
No, I don't know, it just
feels like it might be
548
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,600
something in
this general area.
549
00:21:43,639 --> 00:21:45,600
Sure, totally.
550
00:21:45,639 --> 00:21:47,760
'Cause I'm not being funny
or anything, but when you
actually think of it,
551
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,080
when was the last time anyone
fat or old ever actually won
Strictly Come Dancing?
552
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:52,280
Nuh-uh.
Well, yes.
553
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,040
No. That's, like, ew.
Not gonna happen.
554
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,320
Also, as a woman,
I am going to say this.
555
00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:59,800
Personally, I've had about
enough of being compared
to Abbey Clancy all the time.
556
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,639
Well, yes, that must be...
We love Abbey.
557
00:22:01,679 --> 00:22:04,240
I'm sure
it's the same for men.
Well, it... Yes.
558
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,879
No. I think I would believe
that gender stereotyping
is an area that Newsnight
559
00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:09,800
might get itself
involved with.
Sure, totally.
560
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,520
I've gotta say, I agree, Ian.
I mean, Neil?
561
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,240
Yeah, I'm always being
compared to Abbey Clancy. Right.
562
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,439
It's a bloody nightmare.
Right. Okay.
563
00:22:18,639 --> 00:22:20,080
We should just tell him. No.
564
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:22,000
We're all grown-ups.
Well, you and I are anyway.
565
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,679
I'm not asking him to move.
I'm not gonna do that.
566
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,960
That's all right.
I'll do it for you.
567
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,280
Elsewhere in the building,
568
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,439
Izzy and Jack have
taken some time out
569
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,439
to discuss professional issues
of their own.
570
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,879
It's a nightmare.
571
00:22:31,919 --> 00:22:33,439
You never know what he's gonna
pair himself with next.
572
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:34,960
Just 'cause Will's
a nice guy...
573
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,520
Oh, you know, he's lovely.
He's just useless, that's all.
574
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,639
Like, he shouldn't actually
be an assistant.
575
00:22:38,679 --> 00:22:40,240
It's not great for us, is it?
What?
576
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,000
Well, to be on the same...
God, that's so typical.
577
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,399
What?
Will tries really hard
at everything he does.
578
00:22:44,439 --> 00:22:46,280
Yeah, and that just
makes the fact
he's useless even worse.
579
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,080
It's not like it's gonna be
an issue for me.
But it's...
580
00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,080
What do you mean it's not
gonna be an issue for you?
581
00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:53,879
No, nothing. I just...
No, tell me.
I'm gonna find out.
582
00:22:53,919 --> 00:22:55,399
Really?
Don't do this. Just tell me.
583
00:22:55,439 --> 00:22:57,080
All I'm saying is,
it's you I'm thinking about.
584
00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:58,720
Bloody hell.
It's Anna, isn't it?
What? No.
585
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,120
She's gonna get the job.
Is she?
586
00:23:00,159 --> 00:23:01,360
Come on,
what's she offered you?
This is all you.
587
00:23:01,399 --> 00:23:03,280
It's Development, isn't it?
Or Research?
588
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,480
I haven't said anything.
Great. So that just leaves me
and bloody Will.
589
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,679
I thought he was a nice guy.
What?
590
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,000
See? I told you.
It's you I'm thinking about.
591
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,800
Monday.
Some more things
have happened,
592
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,800
and it's the start of a new
and different week at the BBC.
593
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,800
Anna Rampton is arriving
at New Broadcasting House
594
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,360
this morning, with even more
of an awareness than usual
595
00:23:40,399 --> 00:23:43,280
of being a woman
walking towards her destiny.
596
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,000
But, meanwhile,
inside in the Syncopaticafe,
597
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,000
writer Dan Shepherd has come
down to London from Wetherby
598
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,520
and has asked
if he can come in
599
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,480
and talk to Lucy Freeman
about the future.
600
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,320
'Cause the thing is,
I don't know anything
about Walthamstow.
601
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,240
No, no.
I don't even know
how you get there.
602
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,200
Like I said on the phone,
it's not about the script,
really, Dan.
603
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,240
Yeah, and I suppose
you just get a bus.
604
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,600
Since Generic Head
of Comedy and/or Drama,
Matt Taverner's idea
605
00:24:03,639 --> 00:24:06,520
of setting Dan's small town
love story, either Home Truth
606
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,399
or Neighbourhood,
in Walthamstow
instead of Scarborough,
607
00:24:09,439 --> 00:24:10,840
he's had time
to think about that.
608
00:24:10,879 --> 00:24:12,720
Depending on
how you feel about it all,
609
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,480
I think we might actually
be able to make this
work in our favour
610
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,560
if we're really
careful about it. Yeah.
611
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,200
Dan?
612
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,960
Yeah, no, it's fine.
I think I might have had
enough though, really.
613
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,879
No, no.
If that's okay with you?
614
00:24:21,919 --> 00:24:24,600
Obviously, I don't want to...
No, you mustn't.
You can't just give up.
615
00:24:24,639 --> 00:24:26,960
Actually, I should
probably get off, really.
No, no.
616
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,439
Don't want to miss my train.
617
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,560
No, 'cause if you give up,
then I mean... You can't.
618
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,439
The thing is I'm looking after
my landlady's cat. So...
619
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,320
Yes, but you mustn't
let it defeat you, Dan.
620
00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:35,760
No, it's okay. It's just old.
621
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,720
It keeps forgetting
where it is
and then it panics.
622
00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:44,040
It's nearly 10:00
623
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,560
and Ian is on his way back
from somewhere for a meeting.
624
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,080
Hi.
Yes. Hi, yes.
625
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:49,480
I didn't have you
down as a smoker.
626
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:50,879
No, I'm not. Right.
627
00:24:50,919 --> 00:24:52,760
Yes, they're horrid, yes.
628
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,200
You okay?
629
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,480
Yes, no. I'm fine, thanks.
No, yes. I'm just out here.
630
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,200
Right.
631
00:25:04,399 --> 00:25:06,120
Yeah, so, first of all,
we should probably say,
632
00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:08,679
"All hail Her Royal Highness,
Princess Anna of Better."
633
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:09,879
Right, yes.
Yay!
634
00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:11,080
Brilliant!
Okay, no.
635
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:12,760
All hail.
Yeah, great.
636
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,919
Meanwhile,
inside, in Tommy Cooper,
637
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,800
momentous and much anticipated
events are unfolding.
638
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,520
I'm sorry, Simon.
Can I ask something?
639
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,960
Yes, of course, Tracey.
Of course you can.
640
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,159
I've got to say, as something
of a woman myself,
641
00:25:23,199 --> 00:25:25,199
it's great that Anna
has got this job, obviously.
642
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,360
Yes. Sure.
643
00:25:26,399 --> 00:25:28,000
Brilliant.
Go, Anna!
644
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,360
I'm sorry,
I am going to say this,
Director of Better what?
645
00:25:31,399 --> 00:25:32,840
Ah, yes.
No, very good.
646
00:25:32,879 --> 00:25:35,520
With Anna Rampton
now officially confirmed
647
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,600
as the BBC's first ever
Director of Better,
648
00:25:38,639 --> 00:25:41,480
this is a potentially defining
moment for everyone else.
649
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,360
Yes, no.
Brilliant, Tracey. Brilliant.
650
00:25:43,399 --> 00:25:45,320
Anna, I don't know
if you want to say a few
words at this point.
651
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:46,720
No.
No? Okay.
652
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,320
Not at this stage, no. Brilliant.
653
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,240
The fact is
there'll be an email
introducing myself globally.
654
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,280
Cool.
Of course. Brilliant.
655
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,840
Right.
I'm totally good with that.
656
00:25:52,879 --> 00:25:54,520
All righty. So, moving on...
657
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,679
No. Hang on a minute.
Neil, yes. Of course.
658
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,280
What's the bloody answer?
Brilliant.
659
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,480
I mean, it's got to
mean something, hasn't it?
660
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,080
Exactly, yes.
Thank you, Neil, yes.
661
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:02,800
No. Brilliant, Neil, really.
662
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,600
No, listen,
for what it's worth,
663
00:26:04,639 --> 00:26:06,080
I guess, in Tony's head,
664
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:07,760
I mean, listen, what can any
of us know about Tony's head?
665
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,080
But I think basically
it's about, you know,
it's about interrogating
666
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,840
everything we currently do
and asking the question,
you know...
667
00:26:13,879 --> 00:26:16,960
Asking the, you know,
the... Yes.
668
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,439
"Is this as good
as it could be?"
669
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,399
Is this as good
as it could be?
670
00:26:23,439 --> 00:26:25,000
And I guess, from now on,
if it doesn't get past
the Director of Better,
671
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,199
we don't do it.
672
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,879
No.
Right.
673
00:26:27,919 --> 00:26:29,639
So, it is a really
big job, then?
Oh, yes. No, absolutely, yes.
674
00:26:29,679 --> 00:26:31,199
Yes.
No, sure.
675
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,919
I got to say, that is
exactly what I thought.
Righty-ho.
676
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,439
Bloody great.
Goody-good.
677
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,080
I don't want to work on
Family bloody Fuck Up,
678
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:40,639
or whatever
it's gonna be called.
679
00:26:40,679 --> 00:26:42,399
Right.
That's not what I thought
I'd end up doing.
680
00:26:42,439 --> 00:26:45,280
What did you think
you'd end up doing?
I don't know.
681
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,000
Back outside,
meanwhile, as Head of Values,
682
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,879
Ian has made
an executive decision
683
00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:51,840
to be late
for a meeting for once,
684
00:26:51,879 --> 00:26:55,800
to offer Lucy some carrot cake
and listen to her talk
about her own job instead.
685
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080
I don't have to do this.
I could get a job
behind a bar or something.
686
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:00,960
Well, yes...
You know, or work
in a garden centre.
687
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,919
Yes, no. Garden centre's good.
688
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,800
I'd be really good
at that, too.
689
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,399
No responsibility.
690
00:27:07,439 --> 00:27:08,840
I've always wanted to do that.
691
00:27:08,879 --> 00:27:10,879
No, 'cause the thing
with that is,
in summer you're outside
692
00:27:10,919 --> 00:27:12,240
and if it's raining
or in winter,
693
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,919
you can drink tea
all day long. Yes.
694
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,439
So, either way,
you can't really lose.
Exactly. Yes, no.
695
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:19,760
Mmm.
696
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Thanks. That was
really kind of you.
697
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,040
Well, no. It was great.
Yes, no. It looks nice.
698
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,120
Really good carrot cake. Yes.
699
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,639
Also, thanks for,
you know, for listening.
Well, no.
700
00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:32,720
Helping me reason it out.
It's kind of scary and
exciting all at the same time.
701
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,320
What is?
702
00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:35,600
One of those things,
I think, "Why didn't
I do it ages ago?"
703
00:27:35,639 --> 00:27:37,120
No, wait. Lucy...
704
00:27:37,159 --> 00:27:38,560
Why has it taken
me this long?
No, no, no, no.
705
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,960
What?
No, Lucy, you can't do this.
706
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,800
You can't just...
707
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,840
I mean, you're the sort
of person that BBC depends on.
708
00:27:43,879 --> 00:27:47,800
Yes, I know.
That's why I want to leave.
709
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,439
The BBC is facing
mounting criticism tonight
710
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,240
after it announced that
Evan Davis is to appear
as a contestant
711
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,600
in the next series of
Strictly Come Dancing.
712
00:27:56,639 --> 00:27:58,439
And she's, like, there's
gonna be this new job.
713
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,800
Do we really have to do this?
Yeah, welcome to my world.
714
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,159
Basically, they'd like it
to be you.
715
00:28:02,199 --> 00:28:03,600
You mean, you?
Me. Yes, I know. Yes!
716
00:28:03,639 --> 00:28:05,199
Right.
Yes, I know. Me!
717
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,679
Ian Fletcher, this is a bit of
an own goal for you, isn't it?
718
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,679
The fact is, this would be
some kind of event, would it?
719
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,120
Another example
of both you and the BBC being,
frankly, a bit useless.
720
00:28:13,159 --> 00:28:14,639
Yes, I know.
721
00:28:14,679 --> 00:28:16,520
Anna has locked
herself in the toilet.
In the toilet?
722
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,840
Ugh.
Just say something,
you stupid bitch.
723
00:28:18,879 --> 00:28:20,399
The fact is, I can't do this.
724
00:28:20,439 --> 00:28:22,280
You are so going
to kill here, girl.
725
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,439
Thanks, Ian. That was great.
726
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,480
No, I don't want this.
I don't want it.
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