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Stand-by, two.
Mix through. Cue on two.
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The BBC has
announced the appointment
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of ex-head of Olympic
Deliverance, Ian Fletcher,
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as its new Head of Values.
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Time now
for the Shipping Forecast.
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Superimpose.
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Yes, no, I know.
Yes, no, I saw that.
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Yes. Yes.
No, Tracey, I saw it.
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It's Thursday
morning at New Broadcasting
House in Central London.
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And it's not a good start to
the day for BBC Head of Values
Ian Fletcher.
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Well, how do you think I feel?
I feel like I've been
run over by a truck.
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What? No, in a bad way.
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He's already
late for work,
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but he's about to discover
he's not as late yet
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as he's eventually
going to be.
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Ian!
Oh, bloody hell.
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Ian, Ian Fletcher!
Morning. Right.
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The mood music from
George Osborne's Treasury
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is still all around
the theme of the deficit,
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and the need for further cuts
in the years ahead.
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Meanwhile, up in
Tommy Cooper, the daily Damage
Limitation Meeting
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has already started
without him.
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I mean, I have to say,
for what it's worth,
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I thought
she was really rather good.
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No, she's bloody good.
I thought we were okay,
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I thought it was just a bump,
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until that bloody skirt
on Monday night.
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Yes. Brilliant.
Then all hell broke loose.
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The first item
on today's agenda
involves a new presenter
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on the BBC's current affairs
flagship Newsnight,
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who has been accused
of wearing clothes
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that are inappropriately watchable.
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Professor of Economics
at Warwick University...
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Can I just say, you're not
gonna wanna hear this, guys,
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but her legs have now got
their own Twitter account.
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Right. Yikes. Yeah.
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Hashtag kneesnight.
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You have to say it is actually
a pretty good name for it.
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Oh, yes, no, brilliant.
It's bloody great.
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So, um, just to clarify, Neil,
the original complaint
about this was...
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Yeah. It was internal, yeah.
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Yes, and that was...
Another presenter, yeah.
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Right.
No, it's another
classic own goal.
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Yes, and when you say
another presenter...
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I'm sworn to secrecy,
I'm afraid.
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Oh, yes, no, of course... Sorry.
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Yes, but just so we know,
who is it?
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Right.
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Yes.
Okay.
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So that could be a bit...
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Oh, yeah, no, it's a live
grenade with the pin out.
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Hi.
Ah, the man of the moment.
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Sorry I'm late.
No, come on in.
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Took a bit longer to get
through the front door
than usual.
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Yes, no, brilliant, brilliant.
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Uh, thanks, Will, would you be
able to put that somewhere?
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Yeah, okay, cool.
Thanks, great.
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Well, so like...
Uh, no, just somewhere
that isn't here.
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Okay, cool, yeah, no worries,
yeah, cool.
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With Ian's arrival,
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the meeting can address
the main item on
this morning's agenda.
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Ian.
I mean, the salary's
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one thing,
I can live with that.
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Yes, I should
hope so, Ian.
But the private stuff...
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I know. No,
that is a problem.
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I mean, it's unforgivable.
No, it really
is very irksome.
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Overnight, a media
story about the size of Ian's
BBC salary has developed.
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Several papers are now
alleging that not only did he
misuse public funds
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at the Olympic Deliverance Commission
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by asking his
Personal Assistant
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to arrange a private holiday
for him in Italy in 2012,
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but also that he deliberately
took her with him
in order to enjoy it.
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I mean, for what it's worth,
I had a quick muffin with Tony
this morning.
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A muffin?
Yes, he's very chipper about
the whole thing, isn't he?
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Mmm-hmm.
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Yeah, just cutting
the crap for a second. Brilliant.
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Just so we don't end up with
the usual fuck-up in News. Right.
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Yes, no, very good.
So the personal stuff...
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Right. Yes.
So, the
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PA, the whole Umbrian doodah,
you know, that stuff... Right.
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I mean...
Love nest.
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What?
Umbrian love nest.
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Yeah, well... Brilliant.
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Right, okay.
I mean, it's a free country,
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and, I mean,
I should be so lucky,
who doesn't like Umbria?
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But just for the sake
of clarity and for the
avoidance of doubt,
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whatever the fuck that means,
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that's just the usual
bollocks, is it?
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Right, yes.
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I mean, it's all made up,
it's not true?
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I mean, for God's sake.
I paid for it myself.
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I couldn't stop her
arranging it.
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Right.
Brilliant.
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Okay.
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Great.
Mmm-hmm.
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All righty-ho.
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Hi, Will.
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Oh, yeah, hi. Yeah, hi.
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How are you?
Oh, yeah, good, yeah.
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Sorry I'm a bit late
in this morning.
Are you waiting for something?
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No, yeah, I was just
gonna leave Ian Fletcher's
bike here next to your desk?
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Okay.
Cool. Just put it next
to Simon's.
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Just so I know
where it is. Cool.
Yeah, that's fine.
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Oh, God, that is brilliant,
Will, thank you.
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Yeah, no worries.
Must have taken you forever.
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No, it's cool, yeah.
It's my own fault.
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Overnight,
intern Will Humphries
has very nearly succeeded
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in his task of putting
400 letters of invitation
to a major BBC event
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into 400 different envelopes
and then sealing them up
one after the other.
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What's happened here?
What? Yeah, I know!
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So this is a letter
to David Cameron. Yeah.
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And this is an envelope
addressed to Prince Charles,
the Prince of Wales.
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Yeah, Prince Charles,
yeah, I know.
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So. I mean...
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Yeah, I know, it's like
I don't know
how that happened?
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It's just one, so I thought
I'd leave it till you
got here.
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Okay, well, presumably... Yeah.
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Let's hope that the letter for
Prince Charles is in the
envelope for David Cameron.
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Yeah, cool, yeah, presumably,
yeah, cool.
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Right, so where is the letter
for Cameron?
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Well, yeah... Say again?
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The envelope addressed
to Cameron.
Right, yeah.
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Where is it?
Yeah, cool, yeah,
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it's in there somewhere.
I saw it.
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"From Bakewell tarts to
Melton Mowbray pork pies,
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"a culinary tour
of the nation's taste buds.
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"Each week, Rick Stein
and new face
Sally Wingate
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"adopt a village each
as they battle it out, live
and against the clock,
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"for the title of
Britain's Tastiest Village."
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It's genius, Lucy.
It's wonderful.
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Rick Stein's wrong for this.
Oh, yeah, no, definitely.
Lovely Rick.
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We're not doing old and bald.
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Meanwhile,
producer Lucy Freeman
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has been asked to rewrite
the press release
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for the forthcoming new show
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Britain's Tastiest Village,
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following the sad loss of its
tastiest ingredients,
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Alan Titchmarsh and
either Clare Balding
or Carol Vorderman.
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I mean, obviously this
is your show, David...
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I so want to see this show.
I just thought making
it a live show
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might somehow...
Yeah, no, genius.
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It's a big thing, obviously,
but I suppose what I was...
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Yeah. No, sure.
So where are we up to
with names?
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Right.
If we're going
to do this thing at all.
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Despite Lucy's
concerns about the basic
premise of the show itself,
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the question of who's going
to present it is much more
important than that.
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And Anna has got an idea.
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Gary Lineker?
Yes.
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Genius.
Head of Output
Anna Rampton
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has met TV colossus
Gary Lineker
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at the Pride of Sporting
Britain's Little Children Awards,
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and something has happened.
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The fact is Gary's
sick of football.
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He has been for years,
you can see it in his face.
Lovely Gary.
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He's surrounded by deadbeats
24/7, he's ready for a change.
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I know. It's like every week
he's got to make
those terrible jokes.
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This is one of those moments.
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The fact is, we should
make this thing happen.
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And this is like,
this is so cool.
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But Gary's all about up,
he's not about sideways.
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What?
Well, the fact is he's not
gonna want to do something
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just about food at this
point in his career. Okay.
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But this is
Britain's Tastiest Village.
The clue is in the title.
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So, we talked about maybe
Britain's Top Village.
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Britain's Top Village?
Christ.
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The fact is this is Sunday
night Event Television.
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Well, yes, of course.
There's got to be
more to this
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than a few pork pies
and some tarts.
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I know, 'cause if you
break down a whole village,
then it's...
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What have you actually got?
I mean it's genius. Yes.
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What have you got?
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Well, I mean, you got like
houses, and you got food,
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and you got like gardens,
you've got like makeovers,
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and you've got characters,
you know, like weird people
and that,
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and, uh, you got, uh, pets,
and you got football teams... Yes.
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And I don't know,
maybe a choir or something?
You've got vegetables.
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Yes, okay.
Oh, my God. Okay, can I
just say right now, Anna,
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you're going to do the speech
at the BAFTAs,
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'cause I'm so gonna
be off my face.
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Cameron... Cameron... Nope.
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Okay, not in that one either. Cool.
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Yeah, my brother
does this thing...
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Shall we just do this first?
Yeah, okay, cool.
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Ah, here we go, David Cameron.
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Okay, cool, yeah,
David Cameron.
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I'll just print off another
address sticker and
get a new envelope.
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Yeah, cool, it was in
that one all the time.
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Ah, right. Okay.
What?
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Joan Bakewell.
Yeah. What?
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This one's to Joan Bakewell.
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Yeah, I don't know
who that is.
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So how many of these
are wrong, Will?
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Two.
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Two?
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No, okay, crap. Three.
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Right. Okay. Thanks, Will.
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It's like with me,
sometimes, it's like
I'm completely useless.
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Yes. No, it's okay.
Shall I...
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Okay.
Thanks, Will.
I'll sort it out.
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Yeah. Okay, yeah. Cool.
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Yes, no, I know.
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No, but, Dan, you shouldn't
feel that, you mustn't.
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You know, it was just
one meeting, that's all.
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I mean, they hadn't
even read it.
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Meanwhile,
in a break between meetings,
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producer Lucy Freeman
has found time to catch up
with other projects.
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No, listen. Nothing worthwhile
is easy, you know?
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What?
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Yes, okay. Bye, Dan, bye. Bye.
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Hi.
Hi. You sure?
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Yes, sure.
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I think I owe you one.
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It's also
a convenient moment
to look for a desk
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that isn't already
too hot to work at.
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To save you asking, I haven't
read that script yet.
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What, Home Truth? No, no.
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I will do, I'd like to, but I
had a few other things to...
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Yes, no, of course.
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So was that the writer
you were talking to?
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Yes. Dan, yes.
He's up in Wetherby.
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I was just trying
to cheer him up. Yes.
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So, nothing worthwhile
is easy.
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Yes.
What does that actually mean?
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I'm not really sure, but I
always think it sounds good,
doesn't it?
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Yeah, sounds great.
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Yes, hi.
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Yes, I'd like to send
some flowers, please.
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Please, yes,
that's why I phoned.
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I mean, if you don't
mind me asking, Ian,
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how much were you earning
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back at the Olympic
Deliverance Commission?
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The Olympic Deliverance
Commission?
A-ha!
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I just think that could be
relevant here. Brilliant.
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Meanwhile,
Director of Strategic
Governance Simon Harwood,
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has arranged for Ian to meet
BBC Head of Humane Resources
Elaine Pearson
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to have a bit of a natter
about the issue of his salary.
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Well, leaving aside
the rights and wrongs
of all the personal stuff
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for the moment...
Right. Well, no,
wait a minute...
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Yes, 'cause I'm not being
funny or anything, Ian,
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but who knows what they're
gonna turn up next?
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I'm sorry, but this all...
You're talking as if...
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I haven't done
anything wrong here.
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No.
Oh, no, no, no.
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I was divorced, I was
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out of a job after seven years
on the bloody Olympic Games,
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I went to Italy for one week
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with someone who... She...
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Okay, it was a mistake, okay?
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Ah, yes, good.
It was a mistake.
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I think I probably
knew it at the time.
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We had separate rooms,
it rained,
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there was some sort of
dreadful tomato festival for
the whole bloody week,
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she spent pretty much
the last two days in tears,
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I felt physically sick with
guilt and then we came back.
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Okay.
I mean, what's wrong
with that?
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Oh, yes. Nothing.
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No, Simon and I were talking
earlier and I know you've
talked to Tony...
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Oh, yes, who by the way
is pretty perky about this.
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Right. Is he?
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The fact is you do earn
almost twice as much
as the Prime Minister.
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You are BBC Head of Values.
Hang on.
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There's no getting
around it, that's a pretty
toxic combination.
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I'm sorry. People keep banging
on about the Prime Minister.
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I can't do anything about
how much the Prime Minister
earns, can I?
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I mean, that's really
not my fault.
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No.
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Oh, no, no, absolutely not.
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You know, and by the same
token, I can't do anything
about how much I earn, can I?
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That's really not
my fault, either.
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So really, I mean, I just,
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I don't think that's a helpful
line of argument.
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Brilliant.
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What?
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Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
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Fiona Bruce. No.
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No, okay.
Great with disasters
and uprisings,
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but the fact is Fiona
doesn't do fun.
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Yeah, lovely Fiona.
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Elsewhere,
as Britain's Top Village
inevitably takes shape,
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the issue for Anna Rampton
is who could be shiny enough
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to present alongside
Gary Lineker,
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leaving newcomer
Sally Wingate's face free
to play a less obvious role.
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Sorry, Anna.
That's okay, Jack.
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Bit of a queue downstairs. Sure.
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Went to Starbucks in the end.
Hope that's gonna be okay.
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No, I don't want that now. Okay.
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You can leave the water.
Also this is broken. Sure.
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Okay. Sure, yep.
I'll have a look.
Can you?
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Okay.
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Julia Bradbury.
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Right. Okay.
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Lovely Julia. No, okay. No.
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There you go, it's good now. Good.
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The fact is
we need big hitters here.
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I know, the thing about
Julia is, like,
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she really needs
to be walking?
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As soon as she stands still,
it's not there somehow,
it's gone.
298
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Oh, Jack had an idea. Okay.
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Jack. Britain's Top Village. Yeah.
300
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Yeah, right, okay.
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Holly Willoughby.
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Yes.
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Fuck. It's genius.
Holly Willoughby...
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I mean, do you think
that would actually work?
305
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What? Holly Willoughby
and Gary Lineker? Together?
306
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I just mean...
I'm like, is that even legal?
307
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Okay, good.
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I feel dirty even saying it.
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I mean, I can't remember
the exact figure,
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not in terms of actual...
311
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No, sure, ballpark's fine.
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To the nearest few thousand. Right.
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Well, the Olympics
is a long time ago,
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and obviously I've spent
all of it now,
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but I suppose
it must have been...
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Well, it must have been, uh...
I mean, do I have to?
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I suppose somewhere
in the region of, I mean,
I don't know,
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thousand pounds.
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thousand.
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I mean, very roughly, yes,
I mean, I'm guessing.
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Very good.
Okay, so you got
a decent uplift in
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coming to the BBC. Yes.
323
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I mean, I'm not
feeling particularly uplifted
at the moment.
324
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Meanwhile,
back in Frankie Howerd,
325
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Elaine Pearson is taking Ian
through some of the advantages
326
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of cutting his current salary,
327
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which we are unable to reveal
here for ethical reasons,
328
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to a level more comparable
with someone who earns
a lot less than that.
329
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I mean, I have to say
I'm not entirely comfortable
with this whole idea.
330
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Well, although...
If ever there was
an opportunity
331
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for the BBC to stand tall
and make a big,
bold statement about
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how much it values
the idea of
333
00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,199
valuing values,
then surely this is it.
334
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Oh, yes, no, very strong.
335
00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:11,160
I'm sorry, I may be stupid,
but I just don't see
336
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how the Head of Values
cutting his own salary in half
does that.
337
00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,079
Oh, well.
In half?
338
00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,400
Blimey.
Well, no, that's...
339
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Steady on, everybody.
340
00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,599
It's not
going to be easy to arrive
at an appropriate figure,
341
00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,920
but slowly and surely
they're working their way
down towards one.
342
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What I'm saying is
if we were able to say,
amongst the first things
343
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the incoming Head of Values
did at the BBC,
344
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was to look at
his own salary and cut it to,
345
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I don't know, say
thousand pounds less
346
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than he was earning
in his previous job...
347
00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:36,400
We can work
on the detail obviously...
348
00:13:36,439 --> 00:13:39,800
Wouldn't that be one hell
of a signal to put out there?
Right.
349
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That's brilliant.
350
00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:44,480
I'm not being funny
or anything, Ian, but
I gotta say, that is genius.
351
00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,560
Well...
There's your big bold
statement right there.
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thousand.
353
00:13:47,719 --> 00:13:49,640
Like I say, we can
work on the detail.
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You know, for what it's worth,
and I mean, you know,
listen, I don't know
355
00:13:51,839 --> 00:13:55,079
how this stuff works,
but thousand
seems pretty good to me.
356
00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,199
Well, I mean...
Yes, 'cause that's
thousand less
357
00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,959
than you used to earn before,
358
00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,880
but it's thousand
less than you're actually
earning now.
359
00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,520
Yes.
Plus it's pounds
less than the Prime Minister.
360
00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:05,880
Well, exactly, yes.
361
00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,920
Right. Okay.
It's perfect.
362
00:14:06,959 --> 00:14:08,880
It's joyous.
No, well, I mean,
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00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,000
as an option that's
very interesting,
thank you, Elaine.
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00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,400
'Cause I suppose
what you wanna be thinking
here, Ian, is,
365
00:14:13,439 --> 00:14:14,599
what are my other options?
366
00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,959
Well, exactly, yes. Absolutely.
367
00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,760
And I don't want to be
negative or anything,
368
00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,959
but from where I'm standing,
I'm not seeing any.
369
00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,160
Chaps, I have to say that I
think we have done something
really rather momentous here.
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00:14:24,199 --> 00:14:25,880
Yes.
Yes, well, no,
I'll certainly...
371
00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,319
Elaine Pearson, Superwoman.
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00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,719
No, really...
Yes, no, thank you very much.
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Will.
374
00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,160
Yeah, hey, yeah. No, nothing.
375
00:15:01,199 --> 00:15:03,000
Still here.
What? Yeah.
376
00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,120
Good, isn't it?
Yeah, it's like, I was just,
yeah, I don't know.
377
00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,000
I was gonna ask where you
put it this morning,
378
00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:08,599
but it looks like
it's been around a bit.
379
00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,280
Yeah, no,
I've been round here,
I haven't been on the road.
380
00:15:10,319 --> 00:15:11,839
I mean, honestly,
it's ridiculous.
381
00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,839
Head of bloody Values,
I've got nowhere
to put my bike.
382
00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,400
Yeah, crap, yeah. Crap.
383
00:15:19,199 --> 00:15:20,400
Will.
Yeah.
384
00:15:20,439 --> 00:15:21,760
What're you doing now?
No, nothing,
385
00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,319
I've been here all the time.
386
00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,959
You all right?
What? Yeah, cool, yeah, cool.
387
00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,839
Are you doing anything
for the next half hour or so?
388
00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,719
What, now? No.
Yes.
389
00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,400
Right, okay. Good.
390
00:15:55,839 --> 00:15:57,880
It's Friday morning.
391
00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,640
A new day, and for Ian a day
that already feels very much
like Thursday morning.
392
00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,359
No, look,
what I'd say is...
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00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,880
This is a chance
to make a clear and confident
public statement
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00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,920
about the BBC's core values,
395
00:16:07,959 --> 00:16:10,160
and about what makes it
different from just about
every other broadcasting
396
00:16:10,199 --> 00:16:11,439
organisation in the world.
397
00:16:11,479 --> 00:16:13,560
And these chances
don't come along very often.
398
00:16:13,599 --> 00:16:16,160
How are you going to feel
about earning even less
than the Prime Minister?
399
00:16:16,199 --> 00:16:18,079
No, look, this isn't about me
or the Prime Minister.
400
00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,599
I think one of the
achievements the BBC of today
can be proudest of
401
00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,839
is that it pays its key talent
less than anyone else,
402
00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,640
and I'm certainly proud to
have been given the chance
to be part of that,
403
00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,680
so, no, that's all good.
404
00:16:28,719 --> 00:16:30,319
I mean, the thing about
this is, for once
405
00:16:30,359 --> 00:16:32,280
it isn't actually about the
standard of journalism
on the show.
406
00:16:32,319 --> 00:16:33,959
No, I know that.
Which, as Tony said,
407
00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,479
is really, rather kind
of fabulous.
Yeah, bollocks.
408
00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,880
Meanwhile,
inside, Simon Harwood
409
00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,839
is in the gallery
of the Newsnight studio.
410
00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,560
He's come for a bit
of a catch-up
411
00:16:41,599 --> 00:16:44,280
about what's now being
referred to as
the Kneesnight Issue
412
00:16:44,319 --> 00:16:46,719
with Current Head of News
and Current Affairs Neil Reid,
413
00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,560
and Acting Editor of
Kneesnight, Mark Stephenson.
414
00:16:49,599 --> 00:16:51,680
I mean, you guys'll know how
you wanna handle this thing,
415
00:16:51,719 --> 00:16:53,760
but Mark would it be
an idea to just have
a little chat with her?
416
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:54,880
What? With Indira?
417
00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,319
Yes, you know... What,
418
00:16:56,359 --> 00:16:58,280
talk about her skirt?
419
00:16:58,319 --> 00:17:00,240
Well, no, just, you know,
just, just to have a bit of
a chinwag over a coffee,
420
00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:01,800
and take the heat
out of the whole thing.
421
00:17:01,839 --> 00:17:03,959
Oh, yeah, it's an idea,
but it's a terrible idea. Fine.
422
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,520
You know, there's so many ways
of that going wrong.
423
00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,240
It's just a question of which
one to choose, really. Yes.
424
00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,040
Yes, no, brilliant, brilliant.
425
00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:11,639
Overnight, the
Leader of the House of Commons
Harriet Harman,
426
00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,960
herself a woman,
has tweeted about the
increasing sexualisation
427
00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,280
of television news.
428
00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:18,000
It doesn't help,
we're all fucking men. No.
429
00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,359
I mean, look at us,
for God's sake.
430
00:17:19,399 --> 00:17:21,359
Yes, and in an ideal world,
431
00:17:21,399 --> 00:17:23,040
um, what outcome
are we looking for here?
432
00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:24,800
Well, in an ideal world,
433
00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:27,440
I suppose, they'd all still be
sitting behind desks
like they used to.
434
00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,280
None of this would've
ever happened. Brilliant.
435
00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,480
As it stands we've got them
prancing around the set
like bloody heifers
436
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,120
at a county show.
437
00:17:33,159 --> 00:17:34,520
Yeah, so whose idea
was it to have them
standing up so much?
438
00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,200
Don't know.
I don't know.
439
00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,440
Nobody likes it.
Paxman looks like he's waiting
for a fucking bus.
440
00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,159
Brilliant. I know you'll know
what you're thinking on this,
441
00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,159
but for what it's worth,
Tony absolutely loves desks.
442
00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,080
No, I was saying to Mark,
why don't we get Bruce Forsyth
443
00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:47,200
to present Newsnight
and have done with it?
Then everybody's happy.
444
00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,159
Yeah.
Yes, no, brilliant,
Neil, brilliant.
445
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:51,800
No, of course, I mean,
that goes without saying,
446
00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,560
but the fact is Gary Lineker
was voted in the top 50 men
447
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,360
you'd most like to
surprise you in the shower.
448
00:17:56,399 --> 00:17:59,600
Meanwhile,
producer Lucy Freeman
is already on the phone.
449
00:17:59,639 --> 00:18:02,200
She's managed to talk to
Holly Willoughby's agents,
450
00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,800
despite how difficult
that is to do.
451
00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,879
I mean, initially, it
would obviously be great
452
00:18:05,919 --> 00:18:09,360
if we could maybe meet Holly,
maybe lunch or something,
tell her a bit about...
453
00:18:09,399 --> 00:18:11,919
No, sure, I mean it
could just be a salad
or something.
454
00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,560
Absolutely, of course.
455
00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,720
Okay, well, look,
that's great, Tamsin.
456
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,800
Look forward
to hearing from you.
457
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,440
Okay, thanks.
Lovely, bye. Bye.
458
00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:23,560
Hi.
459
00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:24,680
Yeah, hi.
460
00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:25,879
How are you?
Okay, no, forget that.
461
00:18:25,919 --> 00:18:27,080
Yes.
462
00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,399
No, I'm okay today, thanks.
463
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,679
Oh, okay.
464
00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,639
Have you got a moment?
Yes. Sure.
465
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,840
Oh, now?
Yes.
466
00:18:36,879 --> 00:18:38,520
Right, okay. Yeah Yes.
467
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,280
Wow.
Yes.
468
00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,639
Yeah, we built it.
469
00:18:53,679 --> 00:18:55,399
Come on in.
Yeah, this is where
the bike goes.
470
00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,639
Right.
Here.
471
00:18:56,679 --> 00:18:57,879
Yes.
472
00:18:57,919 --> 00:18:59,200
Pretty cool.
Thanks, Will.
473
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,600
I thought offices
weren't allowed.
474
00:19:00,639 --> 00:19:02,000
No, they're not, no. No.
475
00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,399
No, but I think what I've
realised is that ultimately,
476
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,000
in the big scheme of things,
you know, sod it.
477
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,520
Yes, right.
Yeah, 'cause it's like
478
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,040
in the end life's too short
and then you die?
479
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,240
Yes.
Yes, thanks, Will.
480
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,000
Okay, cool, yeah, no worries,
yeah, cool.
481
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,600
Have a seat.
482
00:19:14,639 --> 00:19:15,840
Thanks. Great.
483
00:19:15,879 --> 00:19:18,240
So I didn't really get
much sleep last night.
484
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,440
No, right.
So I read Home Truth.
485
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,919
Oh, okay. Twice.
486
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,679
Right.
Yes.
487
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,879
As if
his morning hasn't been
interesting enough already,
488
00:19:32,919 --> 00:19:34,679
suddenly, out of nowhere,
489
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,679
Ian has a got a text from
someone waiting in reception.
490
00:19:45,639 --> 00:19:47,080
Sally.
491
00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:48,320
Oh, yes, hi, yes.
492
00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:49,639
What are you... How are you?
493
00:19:49,679 --> 00:19:50,879
Oh, yeah, fine.
494
00:19:50,919 --> 00:19:52,399
I mean, I just...
495
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,399
Yes, no, not a problem.
496
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,200
Shall we...
Just came...
Thank you for these.
497
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,800
Oh, no, it's just,
I couldn't...
498
00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,560
I can't... I don't
actually want them.
499
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,520
Right.
500
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,200
Yes, and please don't...
501
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,200
I'd quite like it if you
didn't actually ring me,
or contact me again.
502
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,360
Right.
503
00:20:07,399 --> 00:20:08,840
Yes, and...
504
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,280
Sally...
Yes, thank you,
505
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,800
that's... Thank you. Sally...
506
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,600
Yeah, hey.
507
00:20:27,639 --> 00:20:29,320
Yes, hi, Will.
Yeah, I just got a coffee.
508
00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:30,480
Cool flowers. Yes.
509
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,639
Yeah, nice and big.
510
00:20:31,679 --> 00:20:33,399
Yes, do you want them?
Yeah, say again?
511
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,679
There you go. Uh...
512
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,879
It's your lucky day.
513
00:20:35,919 --> 00:20:38,080
Yeah, cool, yeah, no worries,
yeah, cool.
514
00:20:47,159 --> 00:20:49,520
So what Barney's going
to do here, what's
gonna happen,
515
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,240
and he's going to talk us
through some really
cool ideas,
516
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,360
and then we're just going
to talk about stuff. Okay?
Brilliant.
517
00:20:54,399 --> 00:20:57,760
Meanwhile,
BBC Brand Consultant
Siobhan Sharpe,
518
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,560
has brought Senior
Perfect Curve go-to-guy
Barney Lumsden
519
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,919
over to New Broadcasting House
520
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,320
to present the initial results
of Perfect Curve's mission
521
00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:08,560
to refresh the famous
BBC logo,
522
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,360
and make it feel more
like an app.
523
00:21:10,399 --> 00:21:12,600
Siobhan, I know you'll know
how you wanna do this
better than I do...
524
00:21:12,639 --> 00:21:14,399
Sure, yeah.
And just before
you start,
525
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,240
maybe could you just give
us a bit of background
about how the...
526
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,040
No, sure, I mean,
and so how we do this
527
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,560
is we do background afterwards.
528
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,960
Oh, right, okay.
529
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,000
Yeah, Barney's a kind of
foreground first kind of guy.
530
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,879
Brilliant.
Okay, so, what've
we got here?
531
00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:28,280
Uh, we got, uh, three letters.
532
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,960
Uh, not even three,
we've got...
533
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,440
Two.
Two letters, 'cause the
first two are the same letter,
534
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,240
which is like a B,
so we got two letters,
535
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,639
and they're in a row, which
is like one after the other. Sure.
536
00:21:36,679 --> 00:21:38,080
And we're like,
"Thanks, guys,"
537
00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:39,919
it's not like they've given us
a lot to work with here...
538
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,040
After the
brave decision to lose
the letters B, B and C
539
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,000
from the famous BBC logo,
540
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,560
Barney has got some examples
541
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,000
of what the new BBC icon
might look like.
542
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,800
It's kind of universal.
It could be... It could be
whatever you like.
543
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,200
It could be B, B, C. BBC.
544
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:55,439
Yeah.
BBC.
545
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,000
Yeah, but without the...
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
546
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,360
Yeah, but...
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
547
00:21:59,399 --> 00:22:01,360
And it's getting bigger,
it's getting stronger,
548
00:22:01,399 --> 00:22:03,760
it's like, it's coming
out of...
Sure. That's comin' at ya.
549
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,120
And we're like, for the BBC,
that's pretty much exactly
550
00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:07,560
where you want...
Okay, so we've got that now.
551
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,639
Okay.
Now do the next one.
552
00:22:08,679 --> 00:22:10,120
Okay, cool.
553
00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:13,720
God.
554
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,280
Oh, don't ask me.
They were just here.
555
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,200
What?
556
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,159
They must have cost a fortune.
557
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,040
Ah, so what,
this isn't normal for you?
558
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,600
Jesus, this is...
559
00:22:35,639 --> 00:22:38,080
I know, they've really gone
the whole nine yards.
560
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,080
What? "Sally. I'm so sorry.
561
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:44,159
"If there's anybody
that doesn't deserve it,
it's you.
562
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,360
"I hope you're okay."
563
00:22:45,399 --> 00:22:47,000
Sally?
God, this...
564
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,439
Where's Will?
This is really weird.
565
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,600
And I mean, like, who's Ian?
566
00:22:49,639 --> 00:22:50,919
What? Have you read this?
No, no...
567
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,840
No, I just mean... Who's Ian?
568
00:22:54,439 --> 00:22:56,399
And you've got three
main areas here... Threeeee.
569
00:22:56,439 --> 00:22:59,960
You've got British, yeah,
British, Broadcasting
and Company.
570
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,280
Meanwhile,
back in the logo presentation,
571
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,879
Perfect Curve go-to-guy
Barney Lumsden
572
00:23:04,919 --> 00:23:07,280
is getting ever closer
to the cutting edge
573
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,200
in his quest to rebrand
the BBC as an app.
574
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,679
No, you've gone
backwards again.
575
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,840
Hi, apologies.
576
00:23:12,879 --> 00:23:14,879
Ah, brilliant, Mr BBC.
577
00:23:14,919 --> 00:23:16,399
Yes, just been a bit... Yes.
578
00:23:16,439 --> 00:23:18,200
Sort of one of those days.
No, no, brilliant.
579
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,720
How's it going?
No, brilliant.
580
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,360
Yes.
After being
downstairs for a while,
581
00:23:22,399 --> 00:23:23,679
Ian has finally managed
582
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,800
to find his way back
to the sixth floor.
583
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,480
'Cause what we realised
with the number three
584
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,840
is that it's kind of like
a universal number. Threeeee.
585
00:23:31,879 --> 00:23:34,600
Yeah... And we were like,
"Is there like a...
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
586
00:23:34,639 --> 00:23:36,320
"...universal
like thing...
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
587
00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:38,480
"...that gives you the number
three?" And that's when...
588
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,120
Triangle.
Yeah, and that's when we
came up with triangle.
589
00:23:41,159 --> 00:23:42,480
Right.
But when we tried it,
590
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,480
what we found was,
a triangle on its own,
591
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,360
it wasn't very,
it didn't really...
Mmm. It was un-appy.
592
00:23:47,399 --> 00:23:49,040
Yeah, un-appy, yeah.
593
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,240
I'm sorry, Siobhan,
I've been just about hanging
on up to now,
594
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,560
but I'm afraid that's done it.
595
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,399
Um, okay,
so it wasn't appy, okay?
596
00:23:55,439 --> 00:23:56,840
It was un-appy.
597
00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,000
Oh, right. Okay.
598
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,159
Un-appy, yeah.
599
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,439
Thank you.
We love this, we so love it.
600
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,840
And then we thought,
"What if you
had two triangles,
601
00:24:05,879 --> 00:24:07,639
"one pointing up,
602
00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:10,480
"and one pointing down,
like they've crashed into
each other."
603
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,520
Right.
Okay.
604
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,320
Blimey.
And suddenly,
605
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:17,000
we were like,
"This is like an explosion...
Yay!
606
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,520
"...in a triangle factory!"
607
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,320
You got threes everywhere
you look.
608
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:21,960
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
You've got energy,
609
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,879
you got this really cool dynamic...
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
610
00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:26,240
Well, you've got a star.
You've got a star, yeah,
yeah, cool.
611
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,960
So, that's, um...
You've got the Star of David.
612
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,120
Excuse me?
You've got the Star of David.
613
00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:34,040
Right, so...
Oh, yes, very good.
614
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,560
David who?
615
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,280
The universal symbol
for the Jewish faith
and people.
616
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,480
You're joking me.
No, he's not, Siobhan.
617
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,040
Yeah, sure... Hey.
618
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,520
Yeah, hey.
619
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,240
Okay, well, look, thanks for
that, Siobhan, that's great.
620
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,919
Go, BBC. Go, triangle.
621
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,240
Go, David.
622
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,360
Yes.
Brilliant.
623
00:24:49,399 --> 00:24:50,560
Yes.
624
00:24:52,159 --> 00:24:53,840
Hi.
Yes, hi.
625
00:24:53,879 --> 00:24:56,639
Oh, Anna, actually, I wanted
to just run something by you.
626
00:24:56,679 --> 00:24:58,000
Right.
I don't know
if you've got a second.
627
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,200
Now?
Well, yes, it's just...
628
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,840
No, not really.
No, right.
629
00:25:00,879 --> 00:25:02,360
If you want to e-mail Jack,
he can put something
in the diary.
630
00:25:02,399 --> 00:25:03,960
Okay, fine. That's great.
Okay, good.
631
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,200
It's not important?
632
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,760
What? No, I mean, it's just,
633
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,439
no... I mean, probably not.
634
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,439
What were you doing with it?
I was working at a desk,
635
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,399
and I got talking
to the person next to me.
636
00:25:14,439 --> 00:25:15,960
This was just someone who...
Yes, okay.
637
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,560
I suppose that's the thing
with open-plan, isn't it?
638
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,000
I suppose that was exactly
the sort of...
639
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,720
What were you doing
with the script?
Oh, anyway,
640
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,600
she was telling me about this
thing she was working on,
641
00:25:22,639 --> 00:25:24,760
and I happened to mention I'd
never actually read a script. Right.
642
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,760
Anyway...
Could you hold that for me?
I've finished with it.
643
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,120
Uh, yes... Okay, thank you.
644
00:25:29,159 --> 00:25:31,600
So anyway, I ended up
reading it last night.
All right.
645
00:25:31,639 --> 00:25:33,240
Both episodes. Twice.
646
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,280
Right.
I mean, I know you guys
didn't really go for it, so...
647
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,399
Neither Matt nor I were convinced.
648
00:25:36,439 --> 00:25:37,600
No...
We see a lot of scripts.
649
00:25:37,639 --> 00:25:39,639
Yes, of course, no,
650
00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:42,240
the only reason I mention it
is I hope I haven't committed
a faux pas, that's all.
651
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,000
A faux pas?
I was talking to Tony
this morning, and I...
652
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,639
Yes.
I found myself talking about
Home Truth in passing.
653
00:25:48,679 --> 00:25:50,199
I probably shouldn't
have done,
654
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,760
but we'd got on to the issue
of what the BBC is actually...
655
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,000
Yeah, sure. Anyway,
656
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,439
he asked me
to leave it with him.
657
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,879
The it. The script.
What?
658
00:25:55,919 --> 00:25:57,600
It's interesting,
you realise, of course,
659
00:25:57,639 --> 00:25:59,399
he probably never gets
the chance to actually read
a script either.
660
00:25:59,439 --> 00:26:01,120
Yes.
You forget.
661
00:26:01,159 --> 00:26:02,639
'Cause like you say,
you guys are reading scripts
all the time.
662
00:26:02,679 --> 00:26:04,240
Yes. Yes. Yes.
663
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,560
Knock-knock.
Ah, who's there?
664
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,120
Simon.
Simon who?
665
00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:15,560
Yes, exactly,
who the hell cares?
666
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,000
Yes, come on in.
667
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,439
Well, this is all
very lovely.
It's nice, isn't it?
668
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,080
It's not an office, obviously.
Of course not.
669
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,919
It's actually
a creative clearing. Brilliant.
670
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,919
And somewhere
to put your bike.
Brilliant, brilliant.
671
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,639
Well, thanks for dropping by.
672
00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:27,199
Oh, no, always time
for the great, you know...
Great. Good.
673
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,439
...the keeper of the...
Yes, great, have a seat.
674
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,560
Meanwhile, Ian has
asked Director of Strategic
Governance Simon Harwood
675
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,159
to step into his
creative clearing
and sit down.
676
00:26:35,199 --> 00:26:37,000
So, yes, no, just to keep
you in the loop really...
677
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,919
Yes, no, ah, brilliant.
Just, I'm sorry, Ian,
678
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,120
just before you go on,
can I just say,
for what it's worth,
679
00:26:41,159 --> 00:26:42,560
absolutely brilliant out there
with the press...
680
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,080
Oh, well.
No, really beyond brilliant.
681
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:46,800
Truly epic stuff.
I mean, thank you.
682
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,879
It felt like a rather
significant moment
for all of us.
683
00:26:48,919 --> 00:26:50,439
Well, it was significant
for me, obviously.
684
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,480
Actually made me feel proud
to be part of the BBC,
685
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,439
if that doesn't sound
too wanky a thing to say.
686
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,840
So, yes, so, with the
logo refresh thing...
687
00:26:57,879 --> 00:26:59,439
Oh, yes, right.
I mean, obviously
688
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,199
it's great to get
Perfect Curve's
take on this...
689
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,639
Yeah.
And thank you for making
all that happen, by the way.
690
00:27:03,679 --> 00:27:05,159
But I have to say, from
a values point of view,
691
00:27:05,199 --> 00:27:08,040
if we're talking about being
confident about who we are,
692
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,679
uh, if that's actually
the brief here...
693
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,080
Brilliant.
Then I think there's
something strong in the idea
694
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:13,840
of staying with a trademark
695
00:27:13,879 --> 00:27:15,919
that's been part of the BBC
from the very beginning... Brilliant.
696
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,560
...and that gives it its
distinctive identity, you
know, in a crowded...
697
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,399
Very good, very strong.
Because, I mean, in the end,
698
00:27:20,439 --> 00:27:22,439
it's the programmes
anyway, isn't it?
699
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,159
I mean, it's the content
700
00:27:24,199 --> 00:27:25,800
that gives value to the brand,
701
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,240
not the brand that gives
value to the content.
702
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,919
Lord, ha' mercy.
Well, no...
703
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,360
No, honestly, I feel I want
to stand up and clap.
704
00:27:31,399 --> 00:27:33,159
Well, no, please don't.
No, brilliant, listen,
705
00:27:33,199 --> 00:27:35,960
so, I think what I might do
now, if that's okay
with you, Ian,
706
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,720
I'll just run
this past Tony...
Yes, of course, yes.
707
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,600
And for what it's worth,
I can tell you now
he'll practically...
708
00:27:40,639 --> 00:27:42,040
I mean, I have mentioned this
to Tony, obviously.
709
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,720
Oh, right!
Yes.
710
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,280
And I have to say,
I think he pretty much
got it straightaway.
711
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,040
Oh, brilliant, brilliant.
What, you've e-mailed him...
712
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,760
What? No. I mean,
yes, obviously...
713
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,639
Brilliant.
But, no, we just had
a quick coffee earlier.
714
00:27:50,679 --> 00:27:51,919
I mean, he's so busy,
isn't he?
715
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,280
It's ridiculous.
716
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,960
I mean, no, as I say, I think
he could see it immediately,
717
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,600
maybe it touched a nerve.
718
00:27:58,639 --> 00:28:01,240
But, no, if you
want to mention
it to him as well, or again,
719
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,399
that'd be really great.
720
00:28:02,439 --> 00:28:04,560
Mmm. Good-o.
Great, so that's all good.
721
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,919
Brilliant, brilliant. Brilliant.
722
00:28:18,439 --> 00:28:20,000
The thing is, I don't
really want them either, Will.
723
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,280
Okay, cool, so, like,
what shall I do with them?
724
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,679
And where have
they been, anyway?
725
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,159
You haven't been carrying
them round all day?
726
00:28:24,199 --> 00:28:25,639
What? Yeah, no, I mean,
I don't know.
727
00:28:26,679 --> 00:28:27,800
Hi, Lucy. Hi.
728
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,080
Yeah, hey.
729
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:31,520
You about to go?
Almost finished, yes. Why?
730
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,879
I just got an e-mail
from Anna.
731
00:28:32,919 --> 00:28:34,439
Oh, right. What about?
732
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800
They've commissioned two more
scripts for some reason. Ah.
733
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,040
God knows why.
I just phoned Dan to tell him.
734
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,800
Well, that's brilliant.
Yeah, brilliant.
735
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,000
He was making
himself a cup of tea,
he refused to believe it.
736
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,000
In the end, I had to forward
him the e-mail to prove it.
737
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,240
So, some good news then.
Oh, it's fantastic.
738
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,919
Yeah, do you want these?
What?
739
00:28:48,959 --> 00:28:50,919
Well, Will...
Yeah, no, you can
have them, it's cool.
740
00:28:50,959 --> 00:28:52,320
What?
We don't know
what to do with them.
741
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,399
Who are they from?
No, Will.
742
00:28:53,439 --> 00:28:55,080
They're from him.
From him?
743
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,439
Yeah.
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