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Cue on two. 2 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,599 The BBC has announced the appointment 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,279 of ex-head of Olympic Deliverance, Ian Fletcher, 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,840 as its new Head of Values. 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:28,759 Time now for the Shipping Forecast. 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:32,280 Superimpose. 7 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,239 I mean, I'm a bit busy this morning, 8 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,400 so I'll have to get back to you, 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,120 but, no, from the hip, I mean, surely, 10 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:45,600 unless, I've misunderstood this, 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,000 Songs Of Praise isn't actually about ratings, is it? 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,120 I mean, that's not it's... 13 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:54,160 8:30 on another morning at New Broadcasting House in Central London. 14 00:00:54,199 --> 00:00:55,919 Ian Fletcher has now been in his job 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,400 as the BBC's Head of Values for nearly a month. 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,480 If you take that out, what have we actually got left? 17 00:01:00,519 --> 00:01:02,160 In the end... Thanks, Will. 18 00:01:02,199 --> 00:01:04,480 In the end, if we're not careful, it'll be Top Gear, 19 00:01:04,519 --> 00:01:07,200 Strictly Come Dancing and, you know, bake offs of various kinds 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,399 and, frankly, I'm not sure that's quite what Lord Reith had in mind. 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,960 Reith. Lord Reith. 22 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:17,920 As opposed to people watching each other 23 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:20,399 stuffing their faces with caramelised whatever 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,759 or crying because they haven't got the right kind of, I don't know, 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,679 self-rising flour in their apple turnovers or whatever. 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,479 Okay, I don't care whether you do or not, that's just an example, okay? 27 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:30,520 Right. 28 00:01:46,039 --> 00:01:48,160 Perhaps, I should say what's driving this, I think, 29 00:01:48,199 --> 00:01:50,679 apart from that it's crucial in its own right, of course. 30 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,199 The real urgency behind it is this Reith thing next month. 31 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,399 By 9:00 a.m, Ian is already chairing 32 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,600 the fortnightly Way Ahead Task Force Group. 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,360 BBC Director-General Tony Hall is due to deliver the keynote speech 34 00:02:03,399 --> 00:02:08,039 at a major BBC thing, next month to celebrate the death, 43 years ago 35 00:02:08,079 --> 00:02:10,759 of the first ever Director-General, Lord Reith. 36 00:02:10,799 --> 00:02:13,280 Cameron's been invited, Miliband, I think, 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,239 uh, Maria Miller, Culture Secretary, obviously. 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,120 So, basically it's... Lis Murdoch from Shine. 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,239 Right, yes, so... 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,760 Peter Fincham from ITV. 41 00:02:20,799 --> 00:02:23,040 Right, yes, thank you. So, basically, anyone who's anyone. 42 00:02:23,079 --> 00:02:24,400 And not to mention the Prince of Wales... 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,120 Exactly. Yes. Thank you, Simon. Yay! 44 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,480 I'm not sure who he's from. He's from Wales. 45 00:02:28,519 --> 00:02:29,640 What? Duh. 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,640 With the anniversary in mind 47 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,200 and the campaign for Charter Renewal in 2016 coming closer by the fortnight, 48 00:02:35,239 --> 00:02:38,920 Ian is joined by Director of Strategic Governance, Simon Harwood, 49 00:02:38,959 --> 00:02:40,760 Head of Output, Anna Rampton, 50 00:02:40,799 --> 00:02:44,079 Senior BBC Communications Officer, Tracey Pritchard, 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,359 Brand BBC Consultant Siobhan Sharpe from PR Company Perfect Curve, 52 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,440 and two other people, to think some big thoughts about the BBC's purpose. 53 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,600 This will be the opening shot in the campaign 54 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:56,400 to secure the future and the values 55 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,200 of the institution were all sitting in now. 56 00:02:58,239 --> 00:02:59,959 Cool. Yes, very good, very strong. 57 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,079 So, with that in mind, I thought, it might be interesting, 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,840 maybe illuminating, who knows, 59 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,079 just to start by asking everyone in this room to write down... 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,239 Yes. To write down one word... 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,000 This is so cool, we love this. Okay, no. 62 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,399 One word? I'm sorry. 63 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Yes, one word. Turquoise. 64 00:03:13,519 --> 00:03:15,079 No, I haven't started yet. Okay. 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:16,840 Just write down one word that... Yep. 66 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,720 The first thing that... No, sure. 67 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,120 The first thing that comes into your mind when you hear the word BBC. 68 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,079 Okay, so, it's not actually a word. Okay, yeah. 69 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Just write that word down, then fold it up so no one can see it... 70 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:28,040 Okay. Go. Right. Okay. 71 00:03:28,079 --> 00:03:29,280 You've got 30 seconds. 72 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,880 Okay, okay, okay. 73 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,040 Can I just say, I'm not being funny or anything, 74 00:03:44,079 --> 00:03:46,480 but I'm really not good at this. Don't worry. It's not a test. 75 00:03:46,519 --> 00:03:48,079 I'm okay at most things. I don't mind... 76 00:03:48,119 --> 00:03:50,880 Just whatever comes into your head. 77 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,560 Er, no, that's way better. This is so cool. 78 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Finished, sir! 79 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,560 Can you have smells? Smells? 80 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,959 You know, like the smell of the building when you come in in the morning. 81 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,239 I don't know what it is. Is it the smell of success, Tracey? 82 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,560 No, it's not that, Simon. It's more like some sort of detergent or something. 83 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,040 I don't know. You can have whatever you want. 84 00:04:08,079 --> 00:04:09,640 You're sure you can have whatever you want. It's cool. 85 00:04:14,359 --> 00:04:18,079 Right. Okay. Don't say I didn't warn you. 86 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,200 Okay, so if you just want to pass them along. No peeking. 87 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,039 Anna, you haven't... You really don't... No. 88 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,080 No, okay. The fact is, I really don't do this. 89 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,479 Right, okay. Okay, good. So... 90 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,840 Right, okay, good. So, that's all good. 91 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,719 Okay. Okay, sure, but the screening itself starts at 7:00. 92 00:04:54,159 --> 00:04:55,680 Okay, great. Thanks, Margo. 93 00:04:57,159 --> 00:04:59,200 No, yeah, I'll tell him, but I'm sure that'll be fine. 94 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,479 Okay, see you later. 95 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,880 Okay, thanks, great. Bye. 96 00:05:04,919 --> 00:05:06,880 Hi, Will. Oh, yeah. Hey, yeah, hi. 97 00:05:06,919 --> 00:05:09,000 You okay? Oh, yeah, no, that's cool, I don't mind. 98 00:05:09,039 --> 00:05:10,760 Meanwhile, intern Will Humphries 99 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,880 is busy with an important mission of his own. 100 00:05:12,919 --> 00:05:15,080 This is, like, Ian Fletchers' bike. Okay, yes. 101 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,200 I have to find somewhere to put it, 'cause he's like a nomad. 102 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,680 What? Nomad. 103 00:05:18,719 --> 00:05:19,880 Right. Yeah, I know, mental, 104 00:05:19,919 --> 00:05:21,800 but it's, like, a challenge. Right. 105 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:23,719 Yeah, so, I was thinking, maybe it could be right here near your desk? 106 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,280 Okay. So, then I would know where it was. 107 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,880 Yeah. You can leave it here, if you like. 108 00:05:26,919 --> 00:05:29,240 Okay, wow, cool. I can keep an eye on it for him. 109 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:32,159 I've got to keep an eye on it for him. That's the challenge. 110 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,680 Well, whatever. Yeah. 111 00:05:33,719 --> 00:05:35,599 Put it next to Simon's. We can both keep an eye on it. 112 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:36,680 Okay, cool. 113 00:05:40,919 --> 00:05:43,280 Actually, Will, are you busy this morning? What, now? 114 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,880 Well, this morning, yes. No. 115 00:05:44,919 --> 00:05:47,320 Um, it's just, I'm a bit busy today. Would you be able to... 116 00:05:47,359 --> 00:05:49,200 Okay, cool, yeah, no worries. 117 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,320 We're sending out the invitations to the Reith thing today. 118 00:05:51,359 --> 00:05:53,320 Yeah. The what? 119 00:05:53,359 --> 00:05:55,320 Will, uh... Tony Halls' going to be giving this... Actually, it's a bit... 120 00:05:55,359 --> 00:05:57,039 It doesn't... Okay, yeah. No, that's cool. 121 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,560 Would you be able to fold the letters 122 00:05:58,599 --> 00:06:00,440 and just put them in the envelopes? Cool. 123 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:02,800 And then, actually... Do you want to sit down here? 124 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:04,840 Okay, cool, yeah, no worries. 125 00:06:06,599 --> 00:06:09,000 So, they're all printed out and signed by Tony Hall, 126 00:06:09,039 --> 00:06:10,640 and all of the envelopes have got the addresses on. 127 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,479 Wow! How many of them are there? 400. 128 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,640 Whoa! Cool. They're all in the right order in the piles, 129 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,200 so, it should be really straightforward. Yeah. 130 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,159 But it is quite important... That's okay. 131 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,159 It's important to make sure that the right letter goes in the right envelope. 132 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,560 Yeah, no, obviously. Yeah, cool. 133 00:06:24,599 --> 00:06:25,919 So, are you going to be okay with that? 134 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,599 Yeah, cool. Yeah, no worries. With what? 135 00:06:29,039 --> 00:06:30,680 With everything that I just explained to you. 136 00:06:30,719 --> 00:06:33,080 Yeah, no worries. Yeah, cool. Right. 137 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,760 Yeah, so where are you going to sit? No... I could sit on the bike. 138 00:06:35,799 --> 00:06:38,120 No, no, no. I've got this Syncopatico Update course this morning. 139 00:06:38,159 --> 00:06:39,560 Oh. Okay. 140 00:06:39,599 --> 00:06:40,799 But I'll be back at lunchtime. Okay, cool. 141 00:06:40,840 --> 00:06:42,400 Hey, you ready? Yes, just coming. 142 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,000 Really, Will, that'll be so brilliant. Thank you. 143 00:06:44,039 --> 00:06:45,440 You're a star. Yeah, okay, cool. 144 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:54,120 I suppose what I'm not clear about 145 00:06:54,159 --> 00:06:55,960 is how moving it to radio would refresh it 146 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,560 or what sort of signals that would send out. 147 00:06:57,599 --> 00:06:59,440 Back in Frankie Howerd, 148 00:06:59,479 --> 00:07:02,560 Ian has moved the Way Ahead meeting away from Big Thoughts and onto Detail. 149 00:07:02,599 --> 00:07:04,479 It's a show. It's people singing in churches. 150 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,280 Well, yes. Cool idea. 151 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,960 The fact is there's no Jeopardy!, there's no appointment to view. 152 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 It's not even a competition. Oh, bummer. 153 00:07:10,039 --> 00:07:11,799 There's been a proposal 154 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,280 to move the BBC's much-loved religious big-hitter, Songs Of Praise 155 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,440 from its current slot on Sunday evening. 156 00:07:17,479 --> 00:07:20,840 And just so I know, am I right in thinking that what's in your mind, Anna, here instead, 157 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,640 is Britain's Tastiest Village? 158 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,359 Village is still floating at the moment. Right. Is it? 159 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,479 But we have a duty to give people what they want. 160 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,440 I suppose my question is, might it be our duty sometimes to lead people towards things 161 00:07:29,479 --> 00:07:31,719 they didn't realise they wanted? Yes, very good. 162 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:32,960 Well, no. Duh! 163 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,520 Right. Frankly, that's ludicrous. 164 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,680 Guys, you don't sell crab cakes in a sausage factory. 165 00:07:36,719 --> 00:07:37,719 Brilliant. What? 166 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,080 Exactly. Have we got that? 167 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,239 Mmm-hmm. Tony'll be practically beside himself. 168 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,039 Right, well, the big positive to take out of this 169 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,680 is that this is exactly the sort of debate 170 00:07:44,719 --> 00:07:46,000 we should be having at this stage. 171 00:07:46,039 --> 00:07:47,479 Brilliant. So, that's all good. 172 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,320 And for what it's worth, I guess 173 00:07:49,359 --> 00:07:51,200 the other thing to think about at some point will be the logo issue. 174 00:07:51,239 --> 00:07:52,719 Sure, yeah. The logo issue? 175 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Yeah. Cool. 176 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,120 Ah, okay. You guys haven't spoken yet. 177 00:07:56,159 --> 00:07:58,520 Uh, no, no, but that's cool. I mean, that's so going to happen. 178 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,120 Right, well, what about it happening now? 179 00:08:00,159 --> 00:08:03,320 Well, this is just something that Siobhan mentioned in passing 180 00:08:03,359 --> 00:08:05,320 and I happened to mention it to Tony, that's all. 181 00:08:05,359 --> 00:08:07,840 Right, I see. So Okay, so, here's the thing with this, guys. 182 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,880 I mean, you wanna up-size your footprint, um, you gotta get different shoes. 183 00:08:11,919 --> 00:08:15,039 As part of the debate about what the BBC is for, 184 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,520 Siobhan has come up with the idea of refreshing the BBC's logo 185 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,239 as a way of achieving various different things. 186 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,719 Your home screen, your brand takeaway, right there in the logo, 187 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,599 you're drinking from the fire hose from the get-go. 188 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,120 It's a no brainer. Right. 189 00:08:27,159 --> 00:08:28,960 I'm sorry, Siobhan, I'm not being funny or anything, 190 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,520 but so far, I don't think I've understood a single thing 191 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,880 you've actually said this morning. Cool. 192 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:35,400 Well, if it helps, what Siobhan said to me, 193 00:08:35,439 --> 00:08:37,559 and what caught Tony's attention, was that the BBC 194 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,319 should maybe look and feel generally more like an app going forward. 195 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,959 Sure, totally. Uh, right. 196 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,919 An app. Okay, that works. 197 00:08:43,959 --> 00:08:46,640 Well, but are we in danger of putting the cart before the horse here? 198 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:48,959 Ah, yes, very good. Okay, we so don't need horses here. 199 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,480 Right, no. I don't think you've quite... 200 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,600 Okay, that's so wrong, I don't even know where to start. 201 00:08:53,199 --> 00:08:54,240 Brilliant. 202 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,959 Dan, hi! Oh, hi, yeah. 203 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,680 What are you doing out here? Um, yeah... 204 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,720 Why weren't you waiting inside? Yeah, no, I went in. 205 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,240 I prefer it out here, really. Right. 206 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,079 Meanwhile, down at reception, 207 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,800 producer Lucy Freeman has gone down to meet new writer Dan Shepherd. 208 00:09:24,839 --> 00:09:26,640 So, when did you come down? I came down last night, yeah. 209 00:09:26,680 --> 00:09:29,120 You've got friends you stay with? I stay with my ex-girlfriend. 210 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,160 Right. Sounds like a very level-headed arrangement. 211 00:09:31,199 --> 00:09:32,640 Yeah. It was all right. Yeah. 212 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:34,160 I didn't know she was my ex-girlfriend when I set off. 213 00:09:34,199 --> 00:09:36,760 Oh. Right. But, no, still, yeah, it was okay. 214 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,480 I've read it again this morning. All right. 215 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,959 It's really good, you know. It's really good. 216 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,839 We should be going in there with real confidence. 217 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,199 Yeah. If you want to do that. 218 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,360 Well, no. I think, I'll just go in as me. 219 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,720 Now 36, Dan has come in for a potentially important meeting 220 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,040 about a potential project that Lucy's been helping him develop 221 00:09:52,079 --> 00:09:54,319 for the last few years of his potential life. 222 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,040 It's easy for me to say this. You've got to believe in yourself. 223 00:09:57,079 --> 00:09:58,160 Yeah. 224 00:09:58,199 --> 00:09:59,880 I'm not doing this as a favour, okay? 225 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:01,600 You know, life's too short. Yeah. 226 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,439 I probably, shouldn't say this, 227 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,600 but I end up working on so many shows I don't really care about. 228 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,640 Yeah, bloody hell, these chairs are a height, aren't they? 229 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:08,959 Ridiculous, yes. Should we just stand up? 230 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,120 I think, I'd feel safer, yeah. 231 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,319 Yes, of course, yes, good idea. 232 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,120 You okay? Yeah. 233 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,680 Eventually, a continuity announcer somewhere is going to end up saying, 234 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,280 "And now on BBC Two, it's time for Home Truth." Yeah. 235 00:10:20,319 --> 00:10:23,319 "A brand-new comedy drama starring, you know, whoever and whoever." 236 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,640 Yeah, them. I genuinely believe that. So must you. 237 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:27,680 Yeah. Do they have loos in here? 238 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,040 Of course. Yes, yeah. Through the doors at the end and on the left. 239 00:10:30,079 --> 00:10:31,360 Right. Great. Thanks. Yes. 240 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,920 No, we have bloody apologised. No, I have. 241 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:40,439 No, we did. Yes, it is. 242 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,760 Meanwhile, Current Controller of News and Current Affairs, 243 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,400 Neil Reid is busy being a man under pressure. 244 00:10:46,439 --> 00:10:48,079 Look, we've got an apology on the website, 245 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,880 we did an apology on the Today programme, 246 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,400 I've apologised to Tony personally. He's... No, I haven't finished yet. 247 00:10:53,439 --> 00:10:55,040 He's apologised to Patten, 248 00:10:55,079 --> 00:10:57,160 I think, he's looking for someone to apologise to as we speak. 249 00:10:57,199 --> 00:10:58,920 So, you know, we really are bloody sorry. 250 00:10:58,959 --> 00:11:00,719 I don't know what else we can do. 251 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,920 Yeah, well. Please do. And while you're at it, give her one from me. 252 00:11:02,959 --> 00:11:04,199 Thanks. Bye, bye. 253 00:11:05,079 --> 00:11:06,160 Phew. Right. 254 00:11:06,199 --> 00:11:08,079 Ah. The joy of news! 255 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,959 Fuck, that's hot. What do you want, Simon? 256 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,959 Have you got a minute? No, I haven't. No, not really. 257 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,600 No, I mean, for what it's worth, I know that. 258 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,959 Tony's absolutely behind you on this. Yeah, bollocks. 259 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,800 Following an item broadcast on the BBC News Channel, 260 00:11:18,839 --> 00:11:21,680 there's been a serious complaint about the quality of journalism 261 00:11:21,719 --> 00:11:24,839 in the Corporations coverage of the ongoing crisis in Syria. 262 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,400 Just to be clear. This is what? A junior picture researcher, was it? 263 00:11:27,439 --> 00:11:29,480 It was 4:00 in the morning. It's not his fault. 264 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,800 No, of course. 265 00:11:30,839 --> 00:11:32,880 He's been working all night. But the fact is... 266 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,400 Nick, I'll phone you back. Yep. 267 00:11:35,439 --> 00:11:37,439 The fact is that for about half an hour this morning, 268 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,360 just till we start getting the calls, 269 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,800 we were running the story with a picture of Sting's wife, Trudie Styler 270 00:11:41,839 --> 00:11:44,079 instead of President Assad's wife Asma. Yep. 271 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,560 You know, that's not good. No. And what was the story? 272 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,040 She's been shopping for something somewhere. Who cares? I don't know. 273 00:11:49,079 --> 00:11:51,520 We fixed it as soon as we could, but by then, of course, it's too late 274 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:53,680 and then we get the call and all bloody hell breaks loose. 275 00:11:53,719 --> 00:11:55,199 No, I mean, that is bad luck. Yeah! 276 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,040 And by all accounts, if there's anyone you don't want to cross, 277 00:11:57,079 --> 00:11:58,520 it's Trudie Styler. 278 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:00,360 No, its Asma bloody Assad who's complained. 279 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,520 Oh, yeah, I see, of course, yes. 280 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:03,920 That's why it's such a giant fuck up. 281 00:12:03,959 --> 00:12:05,640 No, brilliant, Neil, brilliant. 282 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,040 Tracey, hi. 283 00:12:23,079 --> 00:12:25,480 Hang on, when you say I might like to know about it, 284 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:26,920 so this is a bad thing... 285 00:12:26,959 --> 00:12:28,480 Meanwhile, elsewhere in the building, 286 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,199 it's becoming clear to Ian 287 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,160 that as Head of Values, you can never be sure what's coming next 288 00:12:33,199 --> 00:12:34,319 or exactly where it's coming from. 289 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,560 Well, I mean, where are you? 290 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,079 Right, okay, yes, I know. You mean the... 291 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,360 Is it Beirut? I thought it was Cairo. 292 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,439 They're saying they might run it tomorrow. Right. 293 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,680 I know. I don't want to be negative or anything, Ian, 294 00:12:46,719 --> 00:12:48,520 but I've got a very bad feeling about this. 295 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:51,719 Senior BBC Communications Officer, Tracey Pritchard 296 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,880 has had advance warning from the media editor of The Daily Telegraph 297 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,439 of a feature they're about to run 298 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,680 on the issue of BBC executive salaries, 299 00:12:58,719 --> 00:13:01,360 as part of which they're intending to use Ian's salary 300 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,480 as its so-called so-called Head of Values as an example. 301 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,959 The first thing to say, Ian, I've no idea personally 302 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,800 whether that figure is actually accurate or not. Right. 303 00:13:09,839 --> 00:13:12,959 Presumably that's something you'd be able to confirm or otherwise for yourself now. 304 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,520 Yes. I mean, yes. 305 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:16,120 Because, I mean, they're bandying this figure about, 306 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,920 but that's obviously at the heart of the whole story. 307 00:13:17,959 --> 00:13:19,280 Well, yes, absolutely, yes. 308 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,680 I don't want to pry into your personal affairs, Ian, 309 00:13:24,719 --> 00:13:27,599 because I don't do that, that's not the sort of person I am. 310 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,040 But is that what you earn? Well, I mean, it's broadly speaking... 311 00:13:30,079 --> 00:13:32,040 It's certainly... They've obviously... That is what you earn. 312 00:13:32,079 --> 00:13:33,480 Well, I mean, I'd need, obviously, to... 313 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,199 Right. Okay. I'd need to go back 314 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,199 and just check the, you know, just look at the... 315 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,959 I'm not being funny or anything, Ian, 316 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,719 but when I saw it, I was assuming it was wildly inaccurate. 317 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,240 Right. Well... As it is, I've gotta say 318 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,880 we are not in a good place here. 319 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,959 Well, obviously we need to start thinking about a strategy now. 320 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,079 Yes, I don't want to be dramatic or anything, Ian, 321 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,360 but I think what we could be looking at is a miracle. 322 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,000 Dan, hi. Really good to meet you. 323 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,480 Yes, you too. Yeah. And Matt. 324 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,160 Dan. Yeah, hi. 325 00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:01,439 Thanks for this. We know how busy you guys are. Yes. 326 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,800 No sure. You came down from Leeds? Yeah. 327 00:14:03,839 --> 00:14:05,240 Great. Well, from Wetherby, yeah. 328 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,360 Right. I got a bus to Leeds. 329 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,839 Great. Have a seat. Yeah. 330 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,920 Meanwhile, Lucy and writer Dan Shepherd 331 00:14:09,959 --> 00:14:11,760 have got their potentially vital meeting 332 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,640 with Head of Output Anna Rampton 333 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:17,479 and BBC Head of Generic Comedy Drama Matt Taverner. 334 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,959 You want to tell us a bit about Home Truth? Yeah. 335 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,199 They know that if they're ever going to have a chance 336 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,640 to get Dan's idea finally off the ground, 337 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,400 this is either it or not. 338 00:14:26,439 --> 00:14:28,599 'Cause I've seen it develop to this point, 339 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,240 which has been a terrific process, 340 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,520 but, Dan, maybe you can just say a bit about the basic premise. 341 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Yeah, okay. Okay, good. 342 00:14:35,439 --> 00:14:36,959 Right. So, basically, it's set in Scarborough, believe it or not. 343 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,680 Great. I mean, that's not very... 344 00:14:38,719 --> 00:14:40,920 It's basically... It's just about ordinary people 345 00:14:40,959 --> 00:14:43,079 trying to live their lives as well as they can. 346 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,680 Right. Great. 347 00:14:47,719 --> 00:14:50,400 I mean, obviously, it's a relationship story at the centre of it. 348 00:14:50,439 --> 00:14:52,599 Yeah, kind of, yeah. So, this script is what? It's... 349 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,599 Yes, so when Dan first came to me with the idea originally, 350 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,839 I suggested he do a synopsis, maybe a couple of sample scenes. 351 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,000 But what Dan came back with eventually was, 352 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,880 he came back with the whole thing, all the characters, 353 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,319 say their whole world, you know, just there. Great. 354 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,520 And by there, you mean Scarborough. Yeah. 355 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,120 I mean, obviously, I suppose... Well, Dan, we haven't talked about this, 356 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,120 but I suppose it doesn't actually have to be Scarborough... 357 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,640 Yeah, no. ...if that's going to be a problem. 358 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,479 Could just as well be Bridlington... Well, yes. 359 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,040 ...or Whitby if you want to go north. 360 00:15:17,079 --> 00:15:18,560 It's a character-led piece. That's the point. Great. 361 00:15:18,599 --> 00:15:20,360 The location's actually secondary. 362 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,400 It's called Home Truth. Yeah. Yes. 363 00:15:22,439 --> 00:15:24,160 Why is it called that? 364 00:15:24,199 --> 00:15:28,319 I guess it's called that, um, because she's a small-town solicitor. 365 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,920 A solicitor? Yeah, but not like a hotshot or anything. 366 00:15:30,959 --> 00:15:32,520 She's dealing with ordinary people's stuff. 367 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,760 But in the end, what she's dealing with is truth. Right. 368 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,560 I have to say, I think it's a brilliant title. 369 00:15:37,599 --> 00:15:40,000 But, like, in her life, in her relationship... Yes. 370 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,400 ...I guess, um, what she starts to realise... 371 00:15:42,439 --> 00:15:44,839 Yeah, no, sure. I mean, Matt... Yep. 372 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,000 What's your... What do you think? 373 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,599 Yeah, no, I mean, great, Dan. I mean, really interesting. Yeah. 374 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,360 I mean, I have to say, for me, it does feel a bit long. 375 00:15:54,479 --> 00:15:56,839 Long? For me, a bit, yeah. 376 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,319 Right. Okay. I mean, do you want to put 377 00:15:58,359 --> 00:15:59,719 a bit of detail on that, Matt? 378 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,479 No, sure. Just to help Dan get a sense of, 379 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,120 you know, what you mean. Yeah, no, sure. 380 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,240 Hi, Will. Oh, cool, yeah, hi. 381 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,959 Wow, amazing. Yeah, no worries. 382 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,240 I was pretty slow to begin with, but then you get like, a rhythm. 383 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,640 That's really... 384 00:16:19,319 --> 00:16:20,479 No, but hang on. 385 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,160 No, the envelopes... Yeah. 386 00:16:22,199 --> 00:16:23,719 You've got them... They're upside down. 387 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,479 Yeah, no, cool, 'cause it's actually a lot quicker like that. 388 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,079 Right. Yeah, it's, like, flap up, in, seal, done. 389 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,680 It's like a system. Yeah. 390 00:16:29,719 --> 00:16:32,240 Uh, no, but they were in the right order, the addresses. 391 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,640 Yeah, no, they're in like, the same order. 392 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,479 It's just like, they're the other way up. 393 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,839 Right, so that's the wrong order. Yeah. 394 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,120 Completely. With the bottom one on the top. 395 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,439 Yeah, okay, no. I mean, Jesus Christ. Will... 396 00:16:51,479 --> 00:16:52,719 Yeah. I've got the second half 397 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,839 of that bloody course this afternoon. 398 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,280 It's like sometimes I just don't think. 399 00:16:57,599 --> 00:16:59,680 I guess, I'm just thinking in terms of hinterland, really. 400 00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:01,280 Maybe show, don't tell. Yeah. 401 00:17:01,319 --> 00:17:02,839 Uh, I don't know, may be wrong. Yeah. 402 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,200 Back in the script meeting, 403 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,359 Head of Generic Comedy Drama, Matt Taverner 404 00:17:06,399 --> 00:17:09,440 is still explaining what he means to Lucy and Dan. 405 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,119 I think is it worth maybe thinking about consequences. Consequences. 406 00:17:13,159 --> 00:17:15,359 I mean, It might just be this particular iteration of the idea. 407 00:17:15,399 --> 00:17:17,520 Yes, you do realise you've got two episodes there, Matt? 408 00:17:18,639 --> 00:17:20,599 Yeah. Yeah, no, sure. 409 00:17:20,639 --> 00:17:22,720 So, one of the great things about working with Dan is, 410 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,280 he goes away and comes back with two whole scripts off his own bat. 411 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:27,119 I had to. I wanted to know what happened next. 412 00:17:27,159 --> 00:17:29,280 Yes, no, of course, don't get me wrong, that's great. 413 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,840 No, I mean, I don't know. Just in terms of story, I suppose... 414 00:17:31,879 --> 00:17:34,879 Yeah. Is there a way of maybe starting in the middle here 415 00:17:34,919 --> 00:17:37,000 instead of at the beginning? Oh, okay. 416 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,040 Or is it maybe a question of re-imagining the precinct? Yeah. 417 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,800 You know, just to give it, if you like, maybe a bit more narrative heft. 418 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,360 Yeah, maybe, yeah. Good, okay. 419 00:17:43,399 --> 00:17:45,040 Well, no, hang on... Really good to meet you, Dan. 420 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,560 Yes, really. 421 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,480 So, what would be really great, Matt and Anna... Sure. 422 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,120 I mean, good for Dan and, well, no, good for both of us, actually, 423 00:17:51,159 --> 00:17:53,240 good for me too, is to come away from this meeting 424 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,200 with a clear sense of where we are with this. 425 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,760 Yeah, I think I've got that. No, I'm with you, Lucy. 426 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:57,840 It'd be great if we could get this thing 427 00:17:57,879 --> 00:17:59,639 finally across the line. Yes. 428 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,000 Across... Well, that's... Let's... It is across... What line? 429 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,840 I mean, I'd say this really does feel like a very strong first draft. 430 00:18:04,879 --> 00:18:06,120 Yeah. I mean, really strong. 431 00:18:06,159 --> 00:18:08,440 I mean, what I'd say is it's absolutely worth you 432 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,800 keeping us in the loop about where you go with it creatively. 433 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:11,960 Right. Anna? 434 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,520 Yeah, absolutely. Good. Yeah. 435 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,000 Okay. Okay. 436 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,919 Well, that's... I mean, thank you very... 437 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,919 Thank you very... Thank you. Yeah, great. 438 00:18:29,639 --> 00:18:32,080 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I had this thing 439 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:36,040 where if you take the first B and flip it the other way, okay? 440 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,840 Okay, I don't get that. Then it's more... 441 00:18:37,879 --> 00:18:39,600 I don't get it. Well, straightaway it's just... I mean... 442 00:18:39,639 --> 00:18:41,760 Do another one. Flippety-flip-flip. 443 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,879 Meanwhile, across town at PR company Perfect Curve, 444 00:18:44,919 --> 00:18:46,679 Siobhan Sharpe's creative team 445 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,919 are already feeding back to her creatively 446 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,639 on the issue of the BBC logo. 447 00:18:50,679 --> 00:18:52,840 We're like "What if the BBC was a fruit?" Okay. 448 00:18:52,879 --> 00:18:54,280 What sort of fruit would it be? 449 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,040 Yeah, fruit, yeah. Cool. 450 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,440 So, what we came up... Mango. 451 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,080 Yeah, so first... Kiwi fruit. Guava. I love this. 452 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:02,159 Yeah. So, first we were like, "An apple?" 453 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,639 Yeah, yeah, an apple, yeah. Yeah, 454 00:19:03,679 --> 00:19:06,040 or maybe like a pear? Or an apple. 455 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,560 No, we love apples. Say some more. 456 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,240 Yeah, maybe a kind of cheese. Yeah, that's not a fruit. 457 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,440 But a hard cheese, not a smelly one. 458 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,760 Okay, guys, I don't know how to say this, 459 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,159 but this is not just another brand refresh, okay? 460 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:22,879 This is the British Broadcasting, like, Company. This is major shit. 461 00:19:22,919 --> 00:19:24,080 Yeah. For sure. 462 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:25,600 We screw the pooch on this one, 463 00:19:25,639 --> 00:19:27,200 we're sucking nothing but sauerkraut here. 464 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,720 Tasked with the task 465 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,679 of re-conceptualising the world-famous BBC brand 466 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,560 to make it feel more like an app, 467 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,320 Ideation Architect, Barney Lumsden, Trending Analyst, Coco Lomax 468 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:40,760 and Viral Concept Designer, Karl Marx 469 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,360 have put their individual heads together 470 00:19:43,399 --> 00:19:44,679 to see if anything happens. 471 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,200 So, we've had this really big idea. 472 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,960 Okay. This is good, guys. 473 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,760 So, we're like, you know when you look at your iPad or your phone, 474 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,240 whatever, yeah, and you, like, look at the apps, 475 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,080 and it's, like, none of them have got, like, any letters or anything. 476 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:58,919 Yeah, like, or they've got one letter. 477 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,280 Yeah, one letter. 478 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,200 Like F for Facebook. Yeah. 479 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,040 Yeah, or, like, a phone for, like, a phone. 480 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,639 Yeah, but what they don't have is any, like, writing. 481 00:20:06,679 --> 00:20:08,120 No. No. Okay. 482 00:20:08,159 --> 00:20:10,919 And then you look at the BBC app and it's got... 483 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,639 It's like it's got writing, like, all over it. Yeah. 484 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:16,000 'Cause they've got, like, B, B and C. 485 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,639 Yeah, it's letters city here, guys. 486 00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:20,080 Yeah, and then it's got like, BBC Weather, BBC News, 487 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:21,800 BBC Sport, BBC iPlayer... 488 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,600 Sure. Okay, I get this. 489 00:20:23,639 --> 00:20:25,320 Yeah, it's like, they don't know what to do with all the letters, 490 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:26,679 they just stuck them on the app. 491 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,399 Yeah, help me, I can't see for writing. 492 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,800 Yeah, it's like, it's not Jane Austen here, guys. 493 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,320 Get real. It's an iPad, get an iCon. 494 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:34,760 That's why we had an iDea. 495 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,200 Yeah, and that's when... iDea. 496 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,800 And that's when we realised what the thing about the BBC logo was. 497 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,120 Yeah. 498 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,080 Okay, what? Don't do this, say stuff. 499 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,840 Lose the letters. Shit. 500 00:20:47,879 --> 00:20:50,919 Yeah, 'cause they're just not a very appy thing to have. Shut up. 501 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,879 It's un-appy. Shut up. 502 00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:54,960 Yeah, that's why... Yeah, we're not doing cheese, okay? 503 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Okay. It doesn't work. 504 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,919 Yeah. 505 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,520 I mean, presumably, Tracey, 506 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,560 the reason they've given us a sporting head start on this 507 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,679 is so we can give them some kind of official statement. 508 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,879 Exactly, Simon, yes. "In response, the BBC issued a statement 509 00:21:14,919 --> 00:21:17,120 "in which it described the role of Head of Values as..." 510 00:21:17,159 --> 00:21:19,919 You know, duh-duh-duh-duh, something or other. Brilliant. 511 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,240 Yes, although is it just me, 512 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,399 or is "duh-duh-duh-duh, something or other" 513 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,600 not quite going to do it somehow? 514 00:21:24,639 --> 00:21:26,560 Yes, no, very good. Yes. 515 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,360 Meanwhile, Director of Strategic Governance, Simon Harwood 516 00:21:29,399 --> 00:21:32,440 has convened a down and dirty Damage Limitation Session 517 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,879 in order to have a chat about the impending Daily Telegraph feature 518 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:37,399 on the size of Ian's salary. 519 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,080 So, I mean, beyond the e-mail exchange I've read, 520 00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:40,520 how much more detail have they given you 521 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,639 about the piece they're going to run? 522 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:43,120 Nothing. Right. Okay. 523 00:21:43,159 --> 00:21:45,639 No, this guy Andrew, he's features editor, he's Scottish, 524 00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:47,679 and not in a good way, if you know what I mean. Right. 525 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,080 But you'll know how you want to handle this, Ian, 526 00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:51,240 but it's not difficult to predict 527 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,439 where they're going to go with it. Is it? 528 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,159 Well... That's easy. 529 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,520 What are we doing spending hard-earned 530 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,120 licence payer's money... Very good. 531 00:21:57,159 --> 00:22:00,159 ...and a sizeable chunk of it, on some big, fancy job... 532 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,760 Well... ...with a title that doesn't actually mean anything, 533 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,800 when we could be spending it on things that really matter? Yes. 534 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,960 That's where they're going to go with this. Brilliant. 535 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,439 It's all very predictable, Ian, yes. So, I mean, 536 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,280 in a situation like this, Tracey... Yes. 537 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,720 ...how does it, who is it that actually drafts 538 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,120 this official statement? Right, yes. 539 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:15,720 It's not really for me to say this, 540 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,439 but I'm in a situation here... Yes, you are, yeah. 541 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,679 I mean, this is potentially... 542 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,040 I mean, I'm going to need the unequivocal 543 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,800 and public support of the organisation itself. 544 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,000 Oh, yes, no, very good. You certainly are, Ian, yes. 545 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,040 No, I think that's very strong. Right. 546 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,439 So, who is it who actually drafts the... 547 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,040 Tracey, you'll know more about this than I do. Yes. 548 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,679 But, for what it's worth, um, I think the ideal guy for this 549 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,639 would be the Head of Values, wouldn't it? 550 00:22:36,679 --> 00:22:38,639 So, hang on, what? I write my own official statement 551 00:22:38,679 --> 00:22:40,280 in support of myself. 552 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Well, apart from anything else, it saves time, basically, 553 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,159 and keeps everything nice and neat. Right. 554 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,480 I mean, you can CC me along the way, if you can be bothered. 555 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,200 Yes, me too, Ian, please, obviously. 556 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,840 I mean, Tracey, what is the time frame on this? Right. 557 00:22:50,879 --> 00:22:53,280 Presumably, we're going to have to move pretty bloody quickly. 558 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,600 No, I gotta say, I don't want to worry you, Ian, 559 00:22:55,639 --> 00:22:57,679 but for all I know, we may well be already too late. 560 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,480 Right. Well, thanks for that. Brilliant. 561 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,399 So, that's all good, then. Uh-huh. 562 00:23:01,439 --> 00:23:03,639 Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. 563 00:23:03,679 --> 00:23:05,919 No, but, Alan, love, we can't apologise any more than we have. 564 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,439 That's not humanly possible. 565 00:23:08,639 --> 00:23:10,760 But then we'd be apologising for apologising. 566 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,080 You know, we're going to go fucking mad. 567 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:13,879 Down on the newsroom floor, 568 00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:16,720 current Head of News and Current Affairs Neil Reid 569 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,320 is still very sorry. Okay, so wait, 570 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,000 we now issue an official apology 571 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,720 for issuing an official apology to Asma Assad, 572 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,280 apologising for any offence we may have caused. Right. Okay. 573 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,159 And then we issue another official apology for any... 574 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,480 Hang on, I'm going to write this down. 575 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,360 But despite how sorry he is, 576 00:23:33,399 --> 00:23:36,000 a Conservative MP has now criticised the BBC 577 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,760 for its craven appeasement of the Syrian regime 578 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,560 and Sting has phoned up Alan Yentob personally 579 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,040 and called him an actual prick. 580 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,639 Yeah, okay. Well, that all sounds pretty, um... 581 00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:47,120 How about, just to save time, 582 00:23:47,159 --> 00:23:49,679 how about I just blow my brains out live on the 10:00? 583 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,280 That should just about cover it, shouldn't it? 584 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,879 How you doing, Will? 585 00:24:34,919 --> 00:24:37,040 Yeah, hey, cool, yeah, no worries. It's pretty good. 586 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,840 I spoke to Simon and he says these are probably okay to go out tomorrow morning. 587 00:24:39,879 --> 00:24:42,879 Okay, cool, yeah. Yeah, these are definitely right. 588 00:24:42,919 --> 00:24:44,399 I feel a bit bad about leaving you here. 589 00:24:44,439 --> 00:24:46,200 No, that's cool. It's my own fault. It's just... 590 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,919 Yeah, sometimes you just need to try harder. 591 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,240 It's just, I've got to go to this screening with Simon. 592 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,080 Yeah, no, what? Cool, yeah. That's cool, yeah, no worries. 593 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:54,720 Okay, well... 594 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,439 We good? Yes, just coming, yep. 595 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,159 Brilliant. Rotten bad luck in the envelope department, Will. 596 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,639 Yeah, I know, yeah, crap. 597 00:25:00,679 --> 00:25:02,800 Still, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, I guess. 598 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,159 No, that's cool. 599 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,840 Good-o. See you in the morning, Will. 600 00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:07,520 Yeah, that's cool. See you, Izzy. 601 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,960 Good night, Will. Yeah, see you in the morning. Yeah, cool. 602 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:27,879 No, there are some. They're in the freezer. 603 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:30,439 No, in the bottom compartment, where they always are. 604 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,840 Yes, there are. There's a mushroom one... 605 00:25:31,879 --> 00:25:33,199 By 10:00 at night, 606 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,679 New Broadcasting House is virtually empty, 607 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,679 except for those people who are still there. 608 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,000 Bye. 609 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,199 If it hasn't exactly been a good day 610 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,720 for producer Lucy Freeman, 611 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,760 for Ian it's been worse than good, 612 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,800 and it's about to get worse than bad. 613 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,679 I'm on it. Yes, thanks. 614 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,480 Oh, hi. Yes, hi. 615 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,600 Think I might be here for a bit. 616 00:26:28,639 --> 00:26:30,600 Yes, I was going to give you this. 617 00:26:30,639 --> 00:26:32,159 Oh, right, is that it? 618 00:26:32,199 --> 00:26:33,840 Just in case... You said you'd never read a script. 619 00:26:33,879 --> 00:26:35,800 No, I will. I could do with something funny. 620 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,760 Yes. Also... Yes? 621 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,120 Um... 622 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,520 I'm proud to work for the BBC. 623 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,439 I'm especially proud to be its Head of Values. 624 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,120 I haven't done anything wrong here. 625 00:26:55,159 --> 00:26:56,960 BBC. 626 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,800 Rick Stein's wrong for this. Yeah, no. Definitely, yeah. 627 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,320 Lovely Rick. We're not doing "old and bald". 628 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:01,399 Leave aside the rights and wrongs from all 629 00:27:01,439 --> 00:27:02,840 the personal stuff for the moment. 630 00:27:02,879 --> 00:27:04,280 Right. Well, now, wait a minute... 631 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,679 Yes, 'cause I'm not being funny or anything, Ian 632 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,480 but who knows what they're going to turn up next. 633 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,840 Cool flowers. Yes, do you want them? 634 00:27:08,879 --> 00:27:11,040 Say again? It's like it's coming out of the... 635 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,280 Sure. That's comin' at ya. 636 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,919 Okay, it was a mistake. Okay? 637 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000 It was a mistake. I think I probably knew it at the time. 638 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,480 Yeah, do you want these? What? 639 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,520 Well, we don't know what to do with them. 640 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,360 Who are they from? No, Will. 641 00:27:20,399 --> 00:27:22,120 If ever there was an opportunity for the BBC to stand tall 642 00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:23,840 and make a big, bold statement 643 00:27:23,879 --> 00:27:25,520 about how much it values 644 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,520 the idea of valuing values 645 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,120 then surely this is it. No, brilliant, brilliant. 646 00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:31,520 "Sally, I'm so sorry. 647 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,560 "If there's anybody that doesn't deserve it, it's you. 648 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,360 "I hope you're okay." Sally? 55011

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