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Stand-by, two.
Mix through. Cue on two.
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The BBC has
announced the appointment
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of ex-head of Olympic
Deliverance, Ian Fletcher,
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as its new Head of Values.
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Time now
for the Shipping Forecast.
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Superimpose.
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I mean, I'm a bit
busy this morning,
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so I'll have to
get back to you,
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but, no, from the hip,
I mean, surely,
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unless,
I've misunderstood this,
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Songs Of Praise isn't
actually about ratings, is it?
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I mean, that's not it's...
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8:30 on another
morning at New Broadcasting
House in Central London.
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Ian Fletcher
has now been in his job
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as the BBC's Head of Values
for nearly a month.
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If you take that out,
what have we
actually got left?
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In the end... Thanks, Will.
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In the end,
if we're not careful,
it'll be Top Gear,
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Strictly Come Dancing
and, you know,
bake offs of various kinds
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and, frankly, I'm not sure
that's quite what
Lord Reith had in mind.
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Reith. Lord Reith.
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As opposed to
people watching each other
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stuffing their faces
with caramelised whatever
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or crying because they
haven't got the right kind
of, I don't know,
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self-rising flour
in their apple turnovers
or whatever.
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Okay, I don't care whether
you do or not, that's
just an example, okay?
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Right.
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Perhaps, I should say
what's driving this, I think,
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apart from that it's crucial
in its own right, of course.
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The real urgency behind it
is this Reith thing
next month.
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By 9:00 a.m,
Ian is already chairing
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the fortnightly
Way Ahead Task Force Group.
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BBC Director-General Tony Hall
is due to deliver
the keynote speech
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at a major BBC thing,
next month to celebrate
the death, 43 years ago
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of the first ever
Director-General, Lord Reith.
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Cameron's been invited,
Miliband, I think,
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uh, Maria Miller,
Culture Secretary, obviously.
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So, basically it's...
Lis Murdoch from Shine.
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Right, yes, so...
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Peter Fincham from ITV.
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Right, yes, thank you.
So, basically,
anyone who's anyone.
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And not to mention
the Prince of Wales...
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Exactly. Yes.
Thank you, Simon.
Yay!
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I'm not sure who he's from.
He's from Wales.
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What?
Duh.
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With the anniversary in mind
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and the campaign for
Charter Renewal in 2016 coming
closer by the fortnight,
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Ian is joined by Director
of Strategic Governance,
Simon Harwood,
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Head of Output, Anna Rampton,
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Senior BBC
Communications Officer,
Tracey Pritchard,
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Brand BBC Consultant
Siobhan Sharpe
from PR Company Perfect Curve,
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and two other people,
to think some big thoughts
about the BBC's purpose.
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This will be the opening shot
in the campaign
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to secure the future
and the values
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of the institution
were all sitting in now.
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Cool.
Yes, very good, very strong.
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So, with that in mind,
I thought, it might
be interesting,
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maybe illuminating, who knows,
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just to start
by asking everyone in
this room to write down...
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Yes.
To write down one word...
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This is so cool,
we love this.
Okay, no.
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One word?
I'm sorry.
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Yes, one word. Turquoise.
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No, I haven't started yet. Okay.
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Just write down
one word that... Yep.
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The first thing that...
No, sure.
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The first thing that
comes into your mind when
you hear the word BBC.
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Okay, so, it's not
actually a word.
Okay, yeah.
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Just write that word down,
then fold it up
so no one can see it...
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Okay. Go.
Right. Okay.
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You've got 30 seconds.
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Okay, okay, okay.
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Can I just say,
I'm not being funny
or anything,
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but I'm really not
good at this.
Don't worry. It's not a test.
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I'm okay at most things.
I don't mind...
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Just whatever comes
into your head.
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Er, no,
that's way better.
This is so cool.
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Finished, sir!
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Can you have smells?
Smells?
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You know, like the smell
of the building when you
come in in the morning.
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I don't know what it is.
Is it the smell of success,
Tracey?
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No, it's not that, Simon.
It's more like some sort
of detergent or something.
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I don't know.
You can have
whatever you want.
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You're sure you can have
whatever you want.
It's cool.
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Right. Okay.
Don't say I didn't warn you.
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Okay, so if you just want to
pass them along.
No peeking.
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Anna, you haven't...
You really don't...
No.
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No, okay.
The fact is,
I really don't do this.
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Right, okay. Okay, good. So...
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Right, okay, good.
So, that's all good.
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Okay. Okay, sure,
but the screening
itself starts at 7:00.
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Okay, great. Thanks, Margo.
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No, yeah, I'll tell him,
but I'm sure that'll be fine.
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Okay, see you later.
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Okay, thanks, great. Bye.
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Hi, Will.
Oh, yeah. Hey, yeah, hi.
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You okay?
Oh, yeah, no, that's cool,
I don't mind.
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Meanwhile,
intern Will Humphries
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is busy with
an important mission
of his own.
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This is, like,
Ian Fletchers' bike.
Okay, yes.
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I have to find somewhere
to put it, 'cause
he's like a nomad.
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What?
Nomad.
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Right.
Yeah, I know, mental,
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but it's, like, a challenge. Right.
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Yeah, so, I was thinking,
maybe it could be right
here near your desk?
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Okay.
So, then I would know
where it was.
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Yeah. You can leave it here,
if you like.
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Okay, wow, cool.
I can keep an eye
on it for him.
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I've got to keep an eye on it
for him. That's the challenge.
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Well, whatever. Yeah.
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Put it next to Simon's.
We can both
keep an eye on it.
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Okay, cool.
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Actually, Will,
are you busy this morning?
What, now?
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Well, this morning, yes. No.
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Um, it's just,
I'm a bit busy today.
Would you be able to...
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Okay, cool, yeah, no worries.
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We're sending out
the invitations
to the Reith thing today.
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Yeah. The what?
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Will, uh... Tony Halls'
going to be giving this...
Actually, it's a bit...
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It doesn't...
Okay, yeah.
No, that's cool.
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Would you be able
to fold the letters
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and just put them
in the envelopes?
Cool.
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And then, actually...
Do you want to sit down here?
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Okay, cool, yeah, no worries.
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So, they're all printed out
and signed by Tony Hall,
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and all of the envelopes
have got the addresses on.
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Wow! How many
of them are there?
400.
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Whoa! Cool.
They're all in
the right order in the piles,
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so, it should be
really straightforward. Yeah.
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But it is quite important...
That's okay.
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It's important to make sure
that the right letter
goes in the right envelope.
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Yeah, no, obviously.
Yeah, cool.
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So, are you going to
be okay with that?
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Yeah, cool. Yeah, no worries.
With what?
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With everything
that I just explained to you.
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Yeah, no worries.
Yeah, cool. Right.
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Yeah, so where are you
going to sit? No...
I could sit on the bike.
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No, no, no. I've got this
Syncopatico Update
course this morning.
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Oh. Okay.
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But I'll be back
at lunchtime.
Okay, cool.
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Hey, you ready?
Yes, just coming.
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Really, Will,
that'll be so brilliant.
Thank you.
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You're a star.
Yeah, okay, cool.
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I suppose what I'm
not clear about
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is how moving it to radio
would refresh it
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or what sort of signals
that would send out.
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Back in Frankie Howerd,
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Ian has moved the Way Ahead
meeting away from Big Thoughts
and onto Detail.
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It's a show. It's people
singing in churches.
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Well, yes.
Cool idea.
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The fact is
there's no Jeopardy!, there's
no appointment to view.
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It's not even a competition.
Oh, bummer.
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There's been
a proposal
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to move the BBC's much-loved
religious big-hitter,
Songs Of Praise
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from its current slot
on Sunday evening.
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And just so I know, am I right
in thinking that what's in
your mind, Anna, here instead,
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is Britain's Tastiest Village?
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Village is still floating
at the moment.
Right. Is it?
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But we have a duty
to give people what they want.
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I suppose my question is,
might it be our duty sometimes
to lead people towards things
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they didn't realise
they wanted?
Yes, very good.
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Well, no.
Duh!
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Right.
Frankly, that's ludicrous.
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Guys, you don't
sell crab cakes
in a sausage factory.
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Brilliant.
What?
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Exactly.
Have we got that?
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Mmm-hmm.
Tony'll be practically
beside himself.
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Right, well,
the big positive
to take out of this
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is that this is exactly
the sort of debate
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we should be having
at this stage.
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Brilliant.
So, that's all good.
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And for what
it's worth, I guess
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the other thing to think about
at some point
will be the logo issue.
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Sure, yeah.
The logo issue?
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Yeah.
Cool.
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Ah, okay. You guys
haven't spoken yet.
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Uh, no, no, but that's cool.
I mean, that's so
going to happen.
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Right, well, what about
it happening now?
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Well, this is just something
that Siobhan
mentioned in passing
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and I happened to mention it
to Tony, that's all.
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Right, I see. So
Okay, so, here's
the thing with this, guys.
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I mean, you wanna
up-size your footprint, um,
you gotta get different shoes.
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As part of
the debate about
what the BBC is for,
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Siobhan has come up
with the idea of
refreshing the BBC's logo
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as a way of achieving
various different things.
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Your home screen,
your brand takeaway,
right there in the logo,
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you're drinking from
the fire hose
from the get-go.
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It's a no brainer. Right.
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I'm sorry, Siobhan,
I'm not being funny
or anything,
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but so far, I don't think
I've understood a single thing
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you've actually said
this morning. Cool.
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Well, if it helps,
what Siobhan said to me,
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and what caught
Tony's attention,
was that the BBC
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should maybe look and feel
generally more like an app
going forward.
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Sure, totally.
Uh, right.
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An app.
Okay, that works.
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Well, but are we in danger
of putting the cart
before the horse here?
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Ah, yes, very good.
Okay, we so
don't need horses here.
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Right, no.
I don't think you've quite...
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Okay, that's so wrong,
I don't even know
where to start.
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Brilliant.
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Dan, hi!
Oh, hi, yeah.
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What are you doing out here?
Um, yeah...
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Why weren't you
waiting inside?
Yeah, no, I went in.
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I prefer it out here, really. Right.
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Meanwhile,
down at reception,
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producer Lucy Freeman
has gone down to meet
new writer Dan Shepherd.
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So, when did you come down?
I came down last night, yeah.
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You've got friends
you stay with?
I stay with my ex-girlfriend.
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Right. Sounds like
a very level-headed
arrangement.
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Yeah. It was all right. Yeah.
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I didn't know she was
my ex-girlfriend
when I set off.
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Oh. Right.
But, no, still,
yeah, it was okay.
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I've read it again
this morning.
All right.
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It's really good, you know.
It's really good.
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We should be going in there
with real confidence.
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Yeah. If you want to do that.
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Well, no.
I think, I'll just
go in as me.
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Now 36, Dan has
come in for a potentially
important meeting
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about a potential project
that Lucy's been
helping him develop
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for the last few years
of his potential life.
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It's easy for me to say this.
You've got to
believe in yourself.
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Yeah.
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I'm not doing this
as a favour, okay?
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You know, life's too short. Yeah.
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I probably,
shouldn't say this,
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but I end up working
on so many shows
I don't really care about.
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Yeah, bloody hell,
these chairs are a height,
aren't they?
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Ridiculous, yes.
Should we just stand up?
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I think,
I'd feel safer, yeah.
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Yes, of course,
yes, good idea.
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You okay?
Yeah.
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Eventually, a continuity
announcer somewhere
is going to end up saying,
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"And now on BBC Two,
it's time for Home Truth."
Yeah.
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"A brand-new comedy drama
starring, you know,
whoever and whoever."
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Yeah, them.
I genuinely believe that.
So must you.
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Yeah. Do they have
loos in here?
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Of course. Yes, yeah.
Through the doors
at the end and on the left.
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Right. Great. Thanks. Yes.
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No, we have
bloody apologised.
No, I have.
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No, we did. Yes, it is.
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Meanwhile,
Current Controller of
News and Current Affairs,
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Neil Reid is busy
being a man under pressure.
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Look, we've got
an apology on the website,
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we did an apology
on the Today programme,
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I've apologised to
Tony personally. He's...
No, I haven't finished yet.
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He's apologised to Patten,
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I think,
he's looking for someone
to apologise to as we speak.
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So, you know,
we really are bloody sorry.
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I don't know
what else we can do.
251
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Yeah, well. Please do.
And while you're at it,
give her one from me.
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Thanks. Bye, bye.
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Phew. Right.
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Ah. The joy of news!
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Fuck, that's hot.
What do you want, Simon?
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Have you got a minute?
No, I haven't.
No, not really.
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No, I mean,
for what it's worth,
I know that.
258
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Tony's absolutely
behind you on this.
Yeah, bollocks.
259
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Following an item
broadcast on
the BBC News Channel,
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there's been
a serious complaint about
the quality of journalism
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in the Corporations coverage
of the ongoing crisis
in Syria.
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Just to be clear.
This is what? A junior
picture researcher, was it?
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It was 4:00 in the morning.
It's not his fault.
264
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No, of course.
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He's been working all night.
But the fact is...
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Nick, I'll phone you back. Yep.
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The fact is that for about
half an hour this morning,
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just till we start
getting the calls,
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we were running the story
with a picture of
Sting's wife, Trudie Styler
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instead of
President Assad's wife Asma. Yep.
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You know, that's not good.
No. And what was the story?
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She's been shopping
for something somewhere.
Who cares? I don't know.
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We fixed it as soon as
we could, but by then,
of course, it's too late
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and then we get the call
and all bloody hell
breaks loose.
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No, I mean, that is bad luck.
Yeah!
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And by all accounts,
if there's anyone
you don't want to cross,
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it's Trudie Styler.
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No, its Asma bloody Assad
who's complained.
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Oh, yeah, I see,
of course, yes.
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That's why it's such
a giant fuck up.
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No, brilliant,
Neil, brilliant.
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Tracey, hi.
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Hang on, when you say
I might like to know about it,
284
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so this is a bad thing...
285
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Meanwhile, elsewhere
in the building,
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it's becoming clear to Ian
287
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that as Head of Values,
you can never be sure
what's coming next
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or exactly where
it's coming from.
289
00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,560
Well, I mean, where are you?
290
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Right, okay, yes, I know.
You mean the...
291
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Is it Beirut?
I thought it was Cairo.
292
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They're saying they might
run it tomorrow. Right.
293
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I know. I don't want
to be negative
or anything, Ian,
294
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but I've got a very bad
feeling about this.
295
00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:51,719
Senior BBC Communications
Officer, Tracey Pritchard
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has had advance warning
from the media editor
of The Daily Telegraph
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of a feature
they're about to run
298
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on the issue
of BBC executive salaries,
299
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as part of which
they're intending
to use Ian's salary
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as its so-called so-called
Head of Values as an example.
301
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The first thing to say, Ian,
I've no idea personally
302
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whether that figure
is actually accurate or not. Right.
303
00:13:09,839 --> 00:13:12,959
Presumably that's something
you'd be able to confirm
or otherwise for yourself now.
304
00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,520
Yes. I mean, yes.
305
00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:16,120
Because, I mean,
they're bandying
this figure about,
306
00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,920
but that's obviously
at the heart
of the whole story.
307
00:13:17,959 --> 00:13:19,280
Well, yes, absolutely, yes.
308
00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,680
I don't want to pry
into your personal
affairs, Ian,
309
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because I don't do that,
that's not the sort
of person I am.
310
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But is that what you earn?
Well, I mean, it's
broadly speaking...
311
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It's certainly...
They've obviously...
That is what you earn.
312
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Well, I mean, I'd need,
obviously, to...
313
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Right. Okay.
I'd need to go back
314
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and just check the,
you know, just look at the...
315
00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:38,959
I'm not being funny
or anything, Ian,
316
00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,719
but when I saw it,
I was assuming
it was wildly inaccurate.
317
00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,240
Right. Well...
As it is, I've gotta say
318
00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,880
we are not
in a good place here.
319
00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,959
Well, obviously
we need to start
thinking about a strategy now.
320
00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,079
Yes, I don't want
to be dramatic
or anything, Ian,
321
00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,360
but I think what we could be
looking at is a miracle.
322
00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,000
Dan, hi. Really good
to meet you.
323
00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,480
Yes, you too. Yeah.
And Matt.
324
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Dan.
Yeah, hi.
325
00:13:59,199 --> 00:14:01,439
Thanks for this. We know
how busy you guys are. Yes.
326
00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,800
No sure. You came down
from Leeds?
Yeah.
327
00:14:03,839 --> 00:14:05,240
Great.
Well, from Wetherby, yeah.
328
00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,360
Right.
I got a bus to Leeds.
329
00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:07,839
Great. Have a seat. Yeah.
330
00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,920
Meanwhile,
Lucy and writer Dan Shepherd
331
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have got their potentially
vital meeting
332
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with Head of Output
Anna Rampton
333
00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:17,479
and BBC Head of Generic
Comedy Drama Matt Taverner.
334
00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,959
You want to tell us
a bit about Home Truth?
Yeah.
335
00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,199
They know that if they're
ever going to have a chance
336
00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,640
to get Dan's idea
finally off the ground,
337
00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,400
this is either it or not.
338
00:14:26,439 --> 00:14:28,599
'Cause I've seen it develop
to this point,
339
00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,240
which has been
a terrific process,
340
00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,520
but, Dan, maybe you can
just say a bit
about the basic premise.
341
00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:33,800
Yeah, okay.
Okay, good.
342
00:14:35,439 --> 00:14:36,959
Right. So, basically,
it's set in Scarborough,
believe it or not.
343
00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,680
Great.
I mean, that's not very...
344
00:14:38,719 --> 00:14:40,920
It's basically... It's just
about ordinary people
345
00:14:40,959 --> 00:14:43,079
trying to live their lives
as well as they can.
346
00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,680
Right.
Great.
347
00:14:47,719 --> 00:14:50,400
I mean, obviously,
it's a relationship story
at the centre of it.
348
00:14:50,439 --> 00:14:52,599
Yeah, kind of, yeah.
So, this script
is what? It's...
349
00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,599
Yes, so when Dan
first came to me
with the idea originally,
350
00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,839
I suggested he do a synopsis,
maybe a couple
of sample scenes.
351
00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,000
But what Dan came back with
eventually was,
352
00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,880
he came back
with the whole thing,
all the characters,
353
00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,319
say their whole world,
you know, just there. Great.
354
00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,520
And by there,
you mean Scarborough. Yeah.
355
00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,120
I mean, obviously,
I suppose... Well, Dan,
we haven't talked about this,
356
00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,120
but I suppose it doesn't
actually have to be Scarborough...
357
00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,640
Yeah, no.
...if that's going
to be a problem.
358
00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,479
Could just as well
be Bridlington...
Well, yes.
359
00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,040
...or Whitby if you want
to go north.
360
00:15:17,079 --> 00:15:18,560
It's a character-led piece.
That's the point. Great.
361
00:15:18,599 --> 00:15:20,360
The location's
actually secondary.
362
00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,400
It's called Home Truth.
Yeah. Yes.
363
00:15:22,439 --> 00:15:24,160
Why is it called that?
364
00:15:24,199 --> 00:15:28,319
I guess it's called that, um,
because she's
a small-town solicitor.
365
00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,920
A solicitor?
Yeah, but not like
a hotshot or anything.
366
00:15:30,959 --> 00:15:32,520
She's dealing with
ordinary people's stuff.
367
00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,760
But in the end, what she's
dealing with is truth. Right.
368
00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,560
I have to say, I think
it's a brilliant title.
369
00:15:37,599 --> 00:15:40,000
But, like, in her life,
in her relationship... Yes.
370
00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,400
...I guess, um,
what she starts to realise...
371
00:15:42,439 --> 00:15:44,839
Yeah, no, sure.
I mean, Matt... Yep.
372
00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,000
What's your...
What do you think?
373
00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,599
Yeah, no, I mean, great, Dan.
I mean, really interesting. Yeah.
374
00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,360
I mean, I have to say, for me,
it does feel a bit long.
375
00:15:54,479 --> 00:15:56,839
Long?
For me, a bit, yeah.
376
00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,319
Right. Okay.
I mean,
do you want to put
377
00:15:58,359 --> 00:15:59,719
a bit of detail on that, Matt?
378
00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,479
No, sure.
Just to help Dan
get a sense of,
379
00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,120
you know, what you mean.
Yeah, no, sure.
380
00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,240
Hi, Will.
Oh, cool, yeah, hi.
381
00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,959
Wow, amazing.
Yeah, no worries.
382
00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,240
I was pretty slow
to begin with, but then
you get like, a rhythm.
383
00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,640
That's really...
384
00:16:19,319 --> 00:16:20,479
No, but hang on.
385
00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,160
No, the envelopes... Yeah.
386
00:16:22,199 --> 00:16:23,719
You've got them...
They're upside down.
387
00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,479
Yeah, no, cool,
'cause it's actually
a lot quicker like that.
388
00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,079
Right.
Yeah, it's, like, flap up,
in, seal, done.
389
00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,680
It's like a system. Yeah.
390
00:16:29,719 --> 00:16:32,240
Uh, no, but they were
in the right order,
the addresses.
391
00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,640
Yeah, no, they're in like,
the same order.
392
00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,479
It's just like,
they're the other way up.
393
00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,839
Right, so that's
the wrong order. Yeah.
394
00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,120
Completely.
With the bottom one
on the top.
395
00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,439
Yeah, okay, no.
I mean, Jesus Christ. Will...
396
00:16:51,479 --> 00:16:52,719
Yeah.
I've got the second half
397
00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,839
of that bloody course
this afternoon.
398
00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,280
It's like sometimes
I just don't think.
399
00:16:57,599 --> 00:16:59,680
I guess, I'm just thinking
in terms
of hinterland, really.
400
00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:01,280
Maybe show, don't tell. Yeah.
401
00:17:01,319 --> 00:17:02,839
Uh, I don't know,
may be wrong. Yeah.
402
00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,200
Back in the script meeting,
403
00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,359
Head of Generic Comedy Drama,
Matt Taverner
404
00:17:06,399 --> 00:17:09,440
is still explaining
what he means
to Lucy and Dan.
405
00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,119
I think is it worth maybe
thinking about consequences. Consequences.
406
00:17:13,159 --> 00:17:15,359
I mean, It might just be
this particular iteration
of the idea.
407
00:17:15,399 --> 00:17:17,520
Yes, you do realise you've got
two episodes there, Matt?
408
00:17:18,639 --> 00:17:20,599
Yeah. Yeah, no, sure.
409
00:17:20,639 --> 00:17:22,720
So, one of the great things
about working with Dan is,
410
00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,280
he goes away
and comes back with two
whole scripts off his own bat.
411
00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:27,119
I had to.
I wanted to know
what happened next.
412
00:17:27,159 --> 00:17:29,280
Yes, no, of course,
don't get me wrong,
that's great.
413
00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,840
No, I mean, I don't know.
Just in terms of story,
I suppose...
414
00:17:31,879 --> 00:17:34,879
Yeah.
Is there a way of maybe
starting in the middle here
415
00:17:34,919 --> 00:17:37,000
instead of at the beginning?
Oh, okay.
416
00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,040
Or is it maybe a question
of re-imagining the precinct?
Yeah.
417
00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,800
You know, just to give it,
if you like, maybe
a bit more narrative heft.
418
00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,360
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
Good, okay.
419
00:17:43,399 --> 00:17:45,040
Well, no, hang on...
Really good to meet you, Dan.
420
00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,560
Yes, really.
421
00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,480
So, what would be
really great, Matt and Anna... Sure.
422
00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,120
I mean, good for Dan
and, well, no,
good for both of us, actually,
423
00:17:51,159 --> 00:17:53,240
good for me too,
is to come away
from this meeting
424
00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,200
with a clear sense
of where we are with this.
425
00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,760
Yeah, I think I've got that.
No, I'm with you, Lucy.
426
00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:57,840
It'd be great if we could get
this thing
427
00:17:57,879 --> 00:17:59,639
finally across the line. Yes.
428
00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,000
Across...
Well, that's... Let's...
It is across... What line?
429
00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,840
I mean, I'd say this really
does feel like
a very strong first draft.
430
00:18:04,879 --> 00:18:06,120
Yeah.
I mean, really strong.
431
00:18:06,159 --> 00:18:08,440
I mean, what I'd say
is it's absolutely worth you
432
00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,800
keeping us in the loop
about where you go
with it creatively.
433
00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:11,960
Right.
Anna?
434
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,520
Yeah, absolutely. Good. Yeah.
435
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,000
Okay. Okay.
436
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,919
Well, that's...
I mean, thank you very...
437
00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,919
Thank you very... Thank you.
Yeah, great.
438
00:18:29,639 --> 00:18:32,080
Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah,
so I had this thing
439
00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:36,040
where if you take
the first B and flip it
the other way, okay?
440
00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,840
Okay, I don't get that.
Then it's more...
441
00:18:37,879 --> 00:18:39,600
I don't get it.
Well, straightaway
it's just... I mean...
442
00:18:39,639 --> 00:18:41,760
Do another one.
Flippety-flip-flip.
443
00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,879
Meanwhile, across town
at PR company Perfect Curve,
444
00:18:44,919 --> 00:18:46,679
Siobhan Sharpe's creative team
445
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,919
are already feeding back
to her creatively
446
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,639
on the issue
of the BBC logo.
447
00:18:50,679 --> 00:18:52,840
We're like
"What if the BBC was a fruit?"
Okay.
448
00:18:52,879 --> 00:18:54,280
What sort of fruit
would it be?
449
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,040
Yeah, fruit, yeah. Cool.
450
00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,440
So, what we came up... Mango.
451
00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,080
Yeah, so first...
Kiwi fruit. Guava.
I love this.
452
00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:02,159
Yeah. So, first we were
like, "An apple?"
453
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,639
Yeah, yeah, an apple, yeah. Yeah,
454
00:19:03,679 --> 00:19:06,040
or maybe like a pear?
Or an apple.
455
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,560
No, we love apples.
Say some more.
456
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,240
Yeah, maybe a kind of cheese.
Yeah, that's not a fruit.
457
00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,440
But a hard cheese,
not a smelly one.
458
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,760
Okay, guys,
I don't know how to say this,
459
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,159
but this is not just
another brand refresh, okay?
460
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:22,879
This is the British
Broadcasting, like, Company.
This is major shit.
461
00:19:22,919 --> 00:19:24,080
Yeah.
For sure.
462
00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:25,600
We screw the pooch
on this one,
463
00:19:25,639 --> 00:19:27,200
we're sucking nothing
but sauerkraut here.
464
00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,720
Tasked with the task
465
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,679
of re-conceptualising
the world-famous BBC brand
466
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,560
to make it feel more
like an app,
467
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,320
Ideation Architect,
Barney Lumsden,
Trending Analyst, Coco Lomax
468
00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:40,760
and Viral Concept Designer,
Karl Marx
469
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,360
have put their individual
heads together
470
00:19:43,399 --> 00:19:44,679
to see if anything happens.
471
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,200
So, we've had
this really big idea.
472
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,960
Okay. This is good, guys.
473
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,760
So, we're like, you know when
you look at your iPad
or your phone,
474
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,240
whatever, yeah,
and you, like,
look at the apps,
475
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:57,080
and it's, like, none of them
have got, like,
any letters or anything.
476
00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:58,919
Yeah, like,
or they've got one letter.
477
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,280
Yeah, one letter.
478
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,200
Like F for Facebook. Yeah.
479
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,040
Yeah, or, like, a phone
for, like, a phone.
480
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,639
Yeah, but what they don't have
is any, like, writing.
481
00:20:06,679 --> 00:20:08,120
No. No. Okay.
482
00:20:08,159 --> 00:20:10,919
And then you look
at the BBC app
and it's got...
483
00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,639
It's like it's got writing,
like, all over it. Yeah.
484
00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:16,000
'Cause they've got, like,
B, B and C.
485
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,639
Yeah, it's letters
city here, guys.
486
00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:20,080
Yeah, and then it's got like,
BBC Weather, BBC News,
487
00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:21,800
BBC Sport, BBC iPlayer...
488
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,600
Sure. Okay, I get this.
489
00:20:23,639 --> 00:20:25,320
Yeah, it's like,
they don't know what to do
with all the letters,
490
00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:26,679
they just stuck them
on the app.
491
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,399
Yeah, help me,
I can't see for writing.
492
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,800
Yeah, it's like,
it's not Jane Austen
here, guys.
493
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,320
Get real.
It's an iPad,
get an iCon.
494
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:34,760
That's why we had an iDea.
495
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,200
Yeah, and that's when... iDea.
496
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,800
And that's when we realised
what the thing about
the BBC logo was.
497
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,120
Yeah.
498
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,080
Okay, what?
Don't do this, say stuff.
499
00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,840
Lose the letters. Shit.
500
00:20:47,879 --> 00:20:50,919
Yeah, 'cause they're just not
a very appy thing to have.
Shut up.
501
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,879
It's un-appy.
Shut up.
502
00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:54,960
Yeah, that's why...
Yeah, we're not doing
cheese, okay?
503
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,320
Okay.
It doesn't work.
504
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,919
Yeah.
505
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,520
I mean, presumably, Tracey,
506
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,560
the reason they've given us
a sporting head start on this
507
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,679
is so we can give them
some kind
of official statement.
508
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,879
Exactly, Simon, yes.
"In response,
the BBC issued a statement
509
00:21:14,919 --> 00:21:17,120
"in which it described
the role
of Head of Values as..."
510
00:21:17,159 --> 00:21:19,919
You know, duh-duh-duh-duh,
something or other. Brilliant.
511
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,240
Yes, although is it just me,
512
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,399
or is "duh-duh-duh-duh,
something or other"
513
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,600
not quite going
to do it somehow?
514
00:21:24,639 --> 00:21:26,560
Yes, no, very good. Yes.
515
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,360
Meanwhile, Director
of Strategic Governance,
Simon Harwood
516
00:21:29,399 --> 00:21:32,440
has convened a down and dirty
Damage Limitation Session
517
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,879
in order to have a chat
about the impending
Daily Telegraph feature
518
00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:37,399
on the size of Ian's salary.
519
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,080
So, I mean,
beyond the e-mail exchange
I've read,
520
00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:40,520
how much more detail
have they given you
521
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,639
about the piece
they're going to run?
522
00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:43,120
Nothing.
Right. Okay.
523
00:21:43,159 --> 00:21:45,639
No, this guy Andrew,
he's features editor,
he's Scottish,
524
00:21:45,679 --> 00:21:47,679
and not in a good way,
if you know what I mean. Right.
525
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,080
But you'll know
how you want
to handle this, Ian,
526
00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:51,240
but it's not difficult
to predict
527
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,439
where they're going
to go with it. Is it?
528
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,159
Well...
That's easy.
529
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,520
What are we doing
spending hard-earned
530
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,120
licence payer's money...
Very good.
531
00:21:57,159 --> 00:22:00,159
...and a sizeable chunk
of it, on some big,
fancy job...
532
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,760
Well...
...with a title that doesn't
actually mean anything,
533
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,800
when we could be spending it
on things that really matter?
Yes.
534
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,960
That's where they're going
to go with this. Brilliant.
535
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,439
It's all very predictable,
Ian, yes.
So, I mean,
536
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,280
in a situation like this, Tracey... Yes.
537
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,720
...how does it, who is it
that actually drafts
538
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,120
this official statement?
Right, yes.
539
00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:15,720
It's not really
for me to say this,
540
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,439
but I'm
in a situation here...
Yes, you are, yeah.
541
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,679
I mean, this is potentially...
542
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,040
I mean, I'm going to need
the unequivocal
543
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,800
and public support
of the organisation itself.
544
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,000
Oh, yes, no,
very good.
You certainly are, Ian, yes.
545
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,040
No, I think
that's very strong. Right.
546
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,439
So, who is it
who actually drafts the...
547
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,040
Tracey, you'll know more
about this than I do. Yes.
548
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,679
But, for what it's worth, um,
I think the ideal guy for this
549
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,639
would be the Head of Values,
wouldn't it?
550
00:22:36,679 --> 00:22:38,639
So, hang on, what?
I write my own
official statement
551
00:22:38,679 --> 00:22:40,280
in support of myself.
552
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,720
Well, apart from
anything else,
it saves time, basically,
553
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,159
and keeps everything
nice and neat. Right.
554
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,480
I mean, you can CC me
along the way,
if you can be bothered.
555
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,200
Yes, me too, Ian,
please, obviously.
556
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,840
I mean, Tracey, what is
the time frame on this?
Right.
557
00:22:50,879 --> 00:22:53,280
Presumably, we're going
to have to move
pretty bloody quickly.
558
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,600
No, I gotta say,
I don't want
to worry you, Ian,
559
00:22:55,639 --> 00:22:57,679
but for all I know,
we may well be already
too late.
560
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,480
Right. Well, thanks for that. Brilliant.
561
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,399
So, that's all good, then.
Uh-huh.
562
00:23:01,439 --> 00:23:03,639
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
563
00:23:03,679 --> 00:23:05,919
No, but, Alan, love,
we can't apologise
any more than we have.
564
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,439
That's not humanly possible.
565
00:23:08,639 --> 00:23:10,760
But then we'd be apologising
for apologising.
566
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,080
You know, we're going
to go fucking mad.
567
00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:13,879
Down on the newsroom floor,
568
00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:16,720
current Head of News
and Current Affairs Neil Reid
569
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,320
is still very sorry.
Okay, so wait,
570
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,000
we now issue
an official apology
571
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,720
for issuing
an official apology
to Asma Assad,
572
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,280
apologising for any offence
we may have caused.
Right. Okay.
573
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,159
And then we issue another
official apology for any...
574
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,480
Hang on,
I'm going to write this down.
575
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,360
But despite how sorry he is,
576
00:23:33,399 --> 00:23:36,000
a Conservative MP
has now criticised the BBC
577
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,760
for its craven appeasement
of the Syrian regime
578
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,560
and Sting has phoned up
Alan Yentob personally
579
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,040
and called him
an actual prick.
580
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,639
Yeah, okay.
Well, that all
sounds pretty, um...
581
00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:47,120
How about, just to save time,
582
00:23:47,159 --> 00:23:49,679
how about I just blow
my brains out
live on the 10:00?
583
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,280
That should just about
cover it, shouldn't it?
584
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,879
How you doing, Will?
585
00:24:34,919 --> 00:24:37,040
Yeah, hey, cool,
yeah, no worries.
It's pretty good.
586
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,840
I spoke to Simon and he says
these are probably okay
to go out tomorrow morning.
587
00:24:39,879 --> 00:24:42,879
Okay, cool, yeah.
Yeah, these are
definitely right.
588
00:24:42,919 --> 00:24:44,399
I feel a bit bad
about leaving you here.
589
00:24:44,439 --> 00:24:46,200
No, that's cool.
It's my own fault.
It's just...
590
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,919
Yeah, sometimes
you just need to try harder.
591
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,240
It's just, I've got to go
to this screening
with Simon.
592
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,080
Yeah, no, what? Cool, yeah.
That's cool, yeah, no worries.
593
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:54,720
Okay, well...
594
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,439
We good?
Yes, just coming, yep.
595
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,159
Brilliant. Rotten bad luck
in the envelope
department, Will.
596
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,639
Yeah, I know, yeah, crap.
597
00:25:00,679 --> 00:25:02,800
Still, what doesn't kill you
makes you stronger, I guess.
598
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,159
No, that's cool.
599
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,840
Good-o.
See you in the morning, Will.
600
00:25:05,879 --> 00:25:07,520
Yeah, that's cool.
See you, Izzy.
601
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,960
Good night, Will.
Yeah, see you in the morning.
Yeah, cool.
602
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:27,879
No, there are some.
They're in the freezer.
603
00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:30,439
No, in the bottom compartment,
where they always are.
604
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,840
Yes, there are.
There's a mushroom one...
605
00:25:31,879 --> 00:25:33,199
By 10:00 at night,
606
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,679
New Broadcasting House
is virtually empty,
607
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,679
except for those people
who are still there.
608
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,000
Bye.
609
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,199
If it hasn't exactly
been a good day
610
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,720
for producer Lucy Freeman,
611
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,760
for Ian it's been
worse than good,
612
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,800
and it's about
to get worse than bad.
613
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,679
I'm on it.
Yes, thanks.
614
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,480
Oh, hi.
Yes, hi.
615
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,600
Think I might be here
for a bit.
616
00:26:28,639 --> 00:26:30,600
Yes, I was going
to give you this.
617
00:26:30,639 --> 00:26:32,159
Oh, right, is that it?
618
00:26:32,199 --> 00:26:33,840
Just in case...
You said you'd never read
a script.
619
00:26:33,879 --> 00:26:35,800
No, I will.
I could do
with something funny.
620
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,760
Yes. Also...
Yes?
621
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,120
Um...
622
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,520
I'm proud to work for the BBC.
623
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,439
I'm especially proud
to be its Head of Values.
624
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,120
I haven't done
anything wrong here.
625
00:26:55,159 --> 00:26:56,960
BBC.
626
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,800
Rick Stein's wrong for this.
Yeah, no. Definitely, yeah.
627
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,320
Lovely Rick.
We're not doing
"old and bald".
628
00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:01,399
Leave aside the rights
and wrongs from all
629
00:27:01,439 --> 00:27:02,840
the personal stuff
for the moment.
630
00:27:02,879 --> 00:27:04,280
Right. Well, now,
wait a minute...
631
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,679
Yes, 'cause I'm not being
funny or anything, Ian
632
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,480
but who knows what
they're going to turn up next.
633
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,840
Cool flowers.
Yes, do you want them?
634
00:27:08,879 --> 00:27:11,040
Say again?
It's like it's coming
out of the...
635
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,280
Sure. That's comin' at ya.
636
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,919
Okay, it was a mistake. Okay?
637
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000
It was a mistake.
I think I probably knew it
at the time.
638
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,480
Yeah, do you want these?
What?
639
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,520
Well, we don't know
what to do with them.
640
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,360
Who are they from?
No, Will.
641
00:27:20,399 --> 00:27:22,120
If ever there was
an opportunity
for the BBC to stand tall
642
00:27:22,159 --> 00:27:23,840
and make a big, bold statement
643
00:27:23,879 --> 00:27:25,520
about how much it values
644
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,520
the idea of valuing values
645
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,120
then surely this is it.
No, brilliant, brilliant.
646
00:27:30,159 --> 00:27:31,520
"Sally, I'm so sorry.
647
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,560
"If there's anybody
that doesn't deserve it,
it's you.
648
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,360
"I hope you're okay."
Sally?
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