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Standby, two.
Mix through. Cue on two.
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The BBC has
announced the appointment
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of ex-head of Olympic
Deliverance, Ian Fletcher,
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as its new Head of Values.
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Time now
for the Shipping Forecast.
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Superimpose.
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It's a Monday morning
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and one-time Head
of London Olympic Deliverance,
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Ian Fletcher, is arriving
in central London.
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He's about to start
a new chapter in his life.
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It's a big change
for me, obviously.
It's a big job.
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A huge challenge. A bit like
the first day at big school.
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I've splashed out on
a new bike though,
just in case.
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So that's all good.
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He's come to
New Broadcasting House
in Upper Regent Street,
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to take up his position as
Head of Values at the BBC,
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a key and very senior
new post,
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specifically created
in the light of recent
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learning opportunities
at the corporation.
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Hi, Izzy. It's Ian. Hi.
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So, I'm Ian Fletcher. Yes, hi.
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So, I'm actually in reception
and... Oh, right. Okay.
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Well, not so far. I mean,
I've been here five minutes.
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No, no. That's fine.
Could you?
That would be great.
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Okay. No, don't worry.
That's fine.
Okay, thanks. Bye.
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There's something
about the place as
soon as you come in.
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You're aware that you're
at the centre of something
genuinely important,
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and the really exciting
thing is to think that
part of my job
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is going to be trying to
establish where that centre is
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and also exactly
what it's in the middle of.
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Y'ello. Yeah. Hi, Izzy.
Hi. How are you? Yeah, I am.
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No, I mean, not.
No, I haven't, not actually.
Oh, right, cool.
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Okay, cool. Yeah, good idea...
Say again?
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Yeah, yeah.
No worries. I've got it.
You sent it to me.
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Yeah, yeah. Okay. Cool.
Okay. Bye-bye. Bye.
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Hello?
Yeah. Hi, is that
Ian Fletcher?
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Yes, it is, yes.
Cool. Yeah, so, I'm Will.
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I'm like, I'm meeting you?
Yes.
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So, like, where actually
are you? 'Cause I'm, like,
I'm basically here.
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Yes.
So, I'm talking on the phone,
uh, I'm looking round.
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Still talking.
I'm looking. Looking...
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Hi.
No way.
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Hello. Ian Fletcher.
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Yeah, hi. I'm Will.
Except I've actually
been here all the time.
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Yes, so have I.
That's just, like...
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That's just, like, mental. Yes.
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Yeah, 'cause I'm actually,
like, an intern. Yeah.
Oh, right. I see.
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What does that
involve exactly?
Yeah. Say again?
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You want to end up working
in this area eventually?
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Well, do you mean, like,
like, as a job?
Well, yes.
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Well. Yeah. Cool. Yes.
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Sixth floor.
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What I'm doing is,
I have to take you to Izzy.
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Right. And who's Izzy?
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What? She's, yeah, she's...
I mean, it's not like...
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A-ha!
Oh, hi. Yes. Simon.
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All hail the mighty Fletcher.
Well, no.
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Welcome to the madhouse. Yes.
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Simon Harwood
is the BBC's Director
of Strategic Governance
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and underneath it all
is probably one of
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the corporation's
most strategic directors.
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It's a good bike, by the way.
Yes, thanks.
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Yeah, cool. So, yeah,
we're going to see Izzy.
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Oh, no, that's okay.
No, but I have to
take him to Izzy.
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Oh, no, that's fine.
I think Izzy was bringing
him to me anyway.
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Oh. Okay.
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That's great, Will.
I'll take it from here.
Yeah, cool. No worries.
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So...
Yes.
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What do you
think of it so far?
Good. Yes.
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You know, early days,
but so far, so good.
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Are you okay with
that like that?
Yes, no. That's fine.
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I've got one.
They're brilliant,
aren't they?
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Yes, no, they're great, yes.
So I'm looking forward
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to getting started, you know,
and just generally...
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No, I'm sorry. I can't.
That's just not.
I can't just...
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Well, no, no, no.
I mean it's...
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It's probably better
to start again.
Well, no, you...
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Really, it's very easy.
It's just a knack.
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Yes.
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Let me just take that.
Thank you.
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So, basically, it's just
the back wheels.
Forward and under.
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Right, yes.
And then you've got your
front wheel. There you go.
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It's out and round.
Yes. Round. Yes.
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Just drop the saddle down.
Yes, exactly.
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And there. Yes.
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Brilliant, aren't they?
Yes, they are. Yes. Thanks.
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Listen, once you've got
your bearings and everything,
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be good to have a coffee.
Right, yes.
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I mean, if you can be arsed.
No, absolutely.
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Come and find me.
I'm just past Norman Wisdom
on the right.
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Right. I'll just get
myself sorted out first.
Oh, yes. Sure.
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Probably should find
my office and everything.
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Yeah.
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So, the question
we asked ourselves is,
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how would it be
if things didn't have to be
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the way we know
they actually are, yes?
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What would a world look like
if it was different?
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New Broadcasting House
was designed
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and built virtually
from the ground upwards,
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and there are regular
digital handshake sessions
for new staff.
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Today's run by Senior
Technical Services
Choreographer, Adam Brady.
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The whole point
about intuitive technology,
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as opposed to intelligent
technology, which is basically
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just lights going on
and off in toilets, yes?
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The whole point about
intuitive technology,
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being that it comes
pre-loaded into
the building itself, okay?
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Welcome to your virtual PA.
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One unified system
that changes the game,
integrates your world,
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synchs you with everything
and everyone around you,
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without you doing anything.
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Synchs you to the BBC itself,
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in real-time, wirelessly,
continuously and in real-time.
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Eleven years in development,
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guys and everyone,
I give you Syncopatico.
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Fucking hell!
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And of course the angle
they're going with is,
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if Paxman
can fall asleep on air,
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what's it like
for the viewers?
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Yeah, of course they are.
And we're saying
he wasn't asleep?
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No. We're saying he was
concentrating on the answer
he was being given.
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Right, and who was
he interviewing again?
Alex Salmond.
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Ah, okay. Yes.
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I know, but that's
what we're saying, okay.
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Right. Okay, good. All righty.
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Meanwhile,
in Tommy Cooper,
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the daily Senior Team
Damage Limitation Meeting,
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chaired by Director
of Strategic Governance,
Simon Harwood,
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is already underway.
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Ah, right. Good.
Ah. Thank God.
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Apologies, everybody.
The great man.
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First of all, the meeting
wasn't in my Syncopatical,
for some reason.
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No, no, of course.
And then when
Will came to find me,
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we ended up on the wrong
floor. Didn't we, Will?
Yeah, totally, yes.
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Yes. Anyway, many apologies.
No, no, no, come on in.
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Actually, Will, would you
just take that for me?
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Yeah. Sure, no worries.
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Cool.
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So, I mean, what...
No, just take it.
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Okay. Cool. Thanks.
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Brilliant. I don't know
whether you know everyone.
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On the Damage Limitation Team,
Ian will be joining
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Head of Output Anna Rampton,
recruited last year
from her role
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as Head of Daytime Factuality
at ITV,
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current Controller of News
and Current Affairs Neil Reid,
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Senior BBC Communications
Officer Tracey Pritchard,
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who as well as having been
with the corporation
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for nearly 20 years
is also Welsh,
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and two other people.
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So we've had
The Independent
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and then The Telegraph
has dug up his guy
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from Mebyon Kernow
from somewhere.
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Yes, I saw that.
From Cornwall, presumably.
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Now, I'm not being funny
or anything,
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but this guy is
in all probability
a total nutcase, okay?
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But his thing is there aren't
enough Cornish
voices and faces
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on the BBC and that
Cornish issues in general
are under-represented.
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Yeah, bollocks. Brilliant.
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Now, I don't know
what's going on
in the rest of his life,
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but that's what
he goes around thinking.
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Anyone? Any thoughts?
Two words. Rick Stein.
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Okay, so what he's
saying about Rick Stein is,
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he's saying we sent him off
round China or I don't know,
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wherever we've actually
sent him now.
Is it China?
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Uh... Yeah.
Okay, well, wherever.
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India.
Oh, yes, India. Yes.
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Anyway, his point is,
we should have
kept him in Cornwall,
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where he belongs,
with his little dog
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and his Land Rover
and whatever.
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We gave China to
Caroline Quentin last year
at ITV, if you remember.
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Oh, that's right, yes.
You so did.
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Forgive me, but honestly,
what the fuck
are Cornish issues?
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I'm sorry, guys. I'm not being
funny or anything,
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but this is like finding
a spot on your whatsit. Brilliant.
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Better to deal with it now
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than ignore it
and see what happens.
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I mean, I don't know.
Is this something
you'd want to be
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across in terms
of values, Ian?
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Yes. No, absolutely.
I'm just thinking...
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'Cause if anything,
it's probably more
a values issue,
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you know, rather than
anything else.
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Yes, no, I mean,
yes, absolutely.
Good. Good.
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So I should probably
just mention that to
Tony this afternoon.
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Uh-huh.
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Okay, great. Good-oh.
This is all going
terribly well.
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With a gap
before his next meeting,
there's time at last for Ian
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to explore some
of the possibilities offered
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by the open plan
work environment
in New Broadcasting House.
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No, I know exactly
what you mean.
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Well, I mean, you say that
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but the fact is,
a few years ago,
Alan Titchmarsh was voted
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the world's second sexiest man
after George Clooney.
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No. I'm not, really.
You can look it up.
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Okay, look forward to
hearing from you, Annabelle.
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Okay, bye. Bye.
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Hi. Sorry, I don't want
to disturb you. I was just...
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I wouldn't, if I were you. Right.
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Oh, right.
They've been there
for four days.
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Right.
I think he's in Drama.
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Oh. Okay. Well...
Yes, he is. Drama. Yes.
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Right, well, okay.
Well, thanks anyway.
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Right.
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You can use this one for
a while, if you're desperate.
Oh, well...
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I shouldn't really.
I mean, are you sure?
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I knew I wouldn't be able
to keep it up. Typical.
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Oh, right. Well, thanks.
Thank you.
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Sorry, I won't disturb
you any more.
That's okay.
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But I have to ask... Sure.
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...that thing about
Alan Titchmarsh...
Right, yes.
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That's not
actually true, is it?
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Yes.
No, it's not.
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It is, yes.
But I mean...
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What, you more
of a Clooney man?
What? No, well, but that's...
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It was a survey.
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Well, who the hell was voting?
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I don't know.
Maybe it was out of two.
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Producer Lucy Freeman has been
with the BBC for eight years,
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and as such is both
an experienced producer
and still there.
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Following an unforeseen
rationalisation within
her department,
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she's recently been
invited to work on
the sorts of programmes
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she never dreamed
she'd be invited to work on
when she originally joined.
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I think we're
almost there with Alan now,
aren't we, David?
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Yeah.
Which is good, obviously.
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Lovely Alan.
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Britain's Tastiest Village has
been theoretically devised by
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Entertainment Format Producer
David Wilkes,
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and is to be theoretically
hosted by the dream team
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of Alan Titchmarsh
and Clare Balding.
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It's been commissioned by
Head of Output Anna Rampton,
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and she's asked David and Lucy
into her orbit for an update.
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We've done the deal.
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David?
Pretty much, yeah.
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We haven't done the deal.
Yeah, pretty much.
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I left a message
with his agents earlier.
All right. Cool.
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The fact is we need
Alan locked in by now. Yes.
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Yeah, no, it's fine.
It's like Alan's just totally
cool about everything.
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Yes, but...
I think he's a lot happier
in his life now, basically.
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Shit, can you tell Danny
I can't do Friday?
Sure. Yep.
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Okay. What about Clare?
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Right.
Lovely Clare.
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Yes, so where are we up to
with Clare now, David?
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Okay, so, with Clare,
it's just a bit more,
it's like...
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A bit more what?
Okay, can I just say, okay,
this is so not our fault.
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But there's bad news.
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The dates of
How Big Is Your Dog?,
a major new ITV show,
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to which Clare Balding
is already committed,
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have changed at
the last minute,
due to genuinely bad luck.
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So you're telling me what?
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Well, basically,
we love Clare.
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And I said to her
on the phone,
"If I had my way, Clare,
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"you would
literally be Queen."
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Mind you, she pretty much
already is and she was like,
"Oh, shut up."
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Tuesday's gone away now,
right? Good. Okay.
Yep, gone.
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You're telling me
we've lost Clare Balding.
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Uh, well, we...
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I mean, if what David's saying
is true,
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and I'm hearing
it for the first time now,
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then it does look
as if we might have
lost Clare, doesn't it?
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Right.
I know. It's not words
you ever want to hear.
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Apparently, okay, the most
common last word the pilots
say before they crash,
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right, is "Shit".
Can he shut up?
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Yes. Can you please
shut up, David?
Yes, all right.
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Come on in. Excuse the mess. Thanks.
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So there is such a thing
as an office, then?
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No, sadly not. No door.
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Well, it looks pretty
much like an office to me.
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What it is, technically,
as an interactive space.
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Right, is it?
If anyone's interested.
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Right. Well, I suppose
we'd better do some
interacting quick then.
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Absolutely.
Oh, well, have a seat,
if you can be bothered.
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You know Ben and Jerry,
don't you?
The...
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Hi.
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I know. Real names.
What are the chances?
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Director of Strategic Governance
Simon Harwood has invited Ian
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into his interactive space
for an informal chinwag.
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...just to get a sense of how
you wanted to play things
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and what all our lives
are going to be like
in the Fletcher era.
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Yes. Well, I mean,
with Way Ahead... Yep.
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I've done some
thinking obviously.
Great. See?
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A key part of Ian's
new role as Head of Values
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is to establish a new
Way Ahead Task Force,
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with a remit
to think big thoughts
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and to clarify the purpose
of the BBC in a digital age.
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I mean, I don't know whether
you had a chance to look
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at the Pathfinding document.
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The...
Ah, okay.
You haven't seen that.
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Have we seen that?
Nope.
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Apparently, I haven't
seen it. Sorry.
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'Cause I did put it in
the "Shared Priorities" folder
in Syncopatico.
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Oh, right. Okay.
At least I think I did.
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You haven't got
anything on paper.
Paper?
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Yep.
Oh, no, it's in
my personal folder,
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so there must be a way of...
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Oh, I tell you what
happens now. This is
where Izzy comes in.
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She does something brilliant
and everything's lovely again. Okay.
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With the renewal
of the BBC's Royal Charter
on which the future
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of the corporation depends,
due in 2016,
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finding an answer
to the question
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"What Is the BBC For?"
before then could
potentially be important.
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Thank you, Izzy.
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You okay for coffee?
Yeah, fine, thanks.
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Maybe later. Okay.
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Right, good. So, no, yes,
it's obviously very much big
picture stuff at this stage...
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Brilliant.
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But as well
as thinking about
what the BBC is for,
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it's clear that Simon is also
keen to think some
big thoughts about Cornwall.
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So what I thought was...
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No, brilliant. And when
it comes to this
bloody Trescott guy...
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Right, okay. I mean,
that's a different, uh...
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Yeah, what are
your thoughts on that?
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What do you think
we should do?
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Right. I suppose
my thinking is, with that,
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sometimes it's a good idea
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to reach out to these people,
rather than...
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Brilliant.
...you know, to make them
feel they've been listened to
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and they generally...
You think you
should meet him.
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Yes, I mean...
Get him up from Cornwall
and get him in here.
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Well, I mean, obviously
that's something I've...
God. That is amazing.
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Have you been talking
to Tony about this?
Tony...
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Tony. Director General guy.
Yes, no, of course.
No, I haven't, but in fact...
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'Cause Tony is the king
of the personal approach,
isn't he?
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00:14:13,319 --> 00:14:15,079
Uh-huh.
Because one thing
I have been thinking,
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it would be good to sit down
and have a coffee
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with Tony myself
at some point.
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Yes. Absolutely.
I mean, if that's possible.
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No, I think that's
a great idea, Ian. Right.
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No, we should definitely
think about that.
Mmm-hmm.
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Carol, this is Anna Rampton,
Head of Output.
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Yes. Hello. Hello.
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And David Wilkes, Producer
and Format Originator.
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Hi.
I know we haven't started
yet, but can I just say,
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I never want
this lunch to end.
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Meanwhile,
elsewhere, it's a different
day altogether
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and somewhere in central
London, Anna Rampton,
David Wilkes and Lucy Freeman
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are meeting
Carol Vorderman for salad.
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I mean, I suppose basically,
in a nutshell, I suppose
you could say...
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I mean, David, do you
want to talk about...
No, that's cool. Go for it.
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Right, I suppose
you could say it's a sort of
Countryfile meets Bake Off.
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Okay.
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Yeah, with a bit of
The One Show thrown in,
just in case.
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Absolutely, yes.
We're like, no one's ever
actually done this before.
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No, I'm not...
I'm not surprised.
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With Anna due
to formally announce Britain's
Tastiest Village next week,
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they know that after
the unavoidable loss
of Clare Balding,
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this is their chance
to save the show
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and change the face
of Sunday evening television,
for either better or worse.
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And then it's like,
well, which is better?
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Your school kids'
sandwiches in Sandwich... Yes.
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Or Alan's old people's
Eccles cakes in Eccles?
Yes.
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But Sandwich is a town.
It isn't a village.
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Yeah, but for us,
it's sort of a village.
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Obviously... Thanks.
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Obviously, David's
still finalising the details.
Yes, obviously.
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But we just thought,
we know it's a long shot,
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but this is
a big show for us.
No, I don't want this.
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Oh. But... Okay.
I don't want it.
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So, yes, so we just
found ourselves thinking,
"I wonder if there's any way
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"in the world we might
be able to get
Carol Vorderman interested."
358
00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,199
Yeah.
Okay.
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00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,280
You know, 'cause to have
Carol Vorderman on the BBC,
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in prime-time, finally,
that would...
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00:16:08,719 --> 00:16:11,000
The fact is we'd love you
to do this show, Carol.
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I mean, I'm not going
to let myself think
about it. I can't...
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We also think it would be
really great for you.
Mmm, yes.
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00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,160
I mean, for me, it's like,
me, in a restaurant,
with Carol Vorderman.
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I'm like, "Guys, please,
whatever happens,
it's enough. It's enough."
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00:16:25,719 --> 00:16:27,359
Nigel. Hi.
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Meanwhile,
back in W1A,
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00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,959
Mebyon Kernow bigwig
and Cornish eminence grise
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Nigel Trescott has arrived
at New Broadcasting House
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in order to be
taken seriously.
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You name me one Cornish
newsreader or presenter
or whatever...
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In his time
with Mebyon Kernow,
Nigel has tasted defeat
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in no less than seven separate
Cornish by-elections,
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so if anyone knows what
he's talking about, it's him.
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00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,000
...hardly turn on your TV
nowadays without some bloody
Scottish person yacking on.
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Yes.
Usually women.
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00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,079
If Ian's job
is to make him feel
he's being listened to,
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the initial challenge
is to find somewhere
in the building
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where fewer people
can hear him.
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...big hairy Geordies. Yes.
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You got gays in just
about every conceivable
position imaginable,
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you don't know where to look.
Well, hang on a minute.
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00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,200
Ah, no, that's perfectly fine,
Ian, absolutely fine.
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00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,359
Well, I'm sorry,
I'm going to have to...
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I got at least one son
who's a gay already,
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and the other one
is thinking about it.
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00:17:14,879 --> 00:17:16,839
Well, I mean, just see
what happens in here.
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00:17:21,919 --> 00:17:24,079
Right, no, that...
That's something else.
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00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,720
First of all,
I'm not stupid, okay?
Yeah. Well, exactly.
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00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,960
I've been in the industry
a long time.
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Obviously, yes.
Oh, yeah, ages.
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00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,800
Meanwhile,
in the restaurant
with Carol Vorderman,
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things have now moved beyond
salad to the nitty-gritty
phase of the lunch.
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Someone's dropped out,
haven't they?
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I'm guessing
it's Clare Balding.
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It usually is, at the moment.
Well, that's...
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00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,879
That's okay. But before
we go any further...
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00:17:46,919 --> 00:17:48,520
Right, yes.
Alan Titchmarsh...
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00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,399
Yes.
He's actually attached?
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00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,399
Well, he... It's...
Pretty much, yeah.
401
00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,320
Well, though
I think what we...
I'm not drinking this coffee,
402
00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:58,159
it's vile.
403
00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,960
Is he attached or not?
404
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,760
Well, he... Yes, he is.
Yes. Basically.
405
00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,800
He is?
Yes.
406
00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,159
Pretty much. Yeah.
407
00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,840
Right. Okay.
408
00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,680
I have to tell you,
Alan's very excited
about working with you.
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00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,320
He's excited.
The two of you together.
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00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:14,080
I mean, hot.
It's downright dangerous.
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00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:15,520
Actually, could he shut up?
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00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,200
Yes, could you shut up,
please, David?
Absolutely. Yeah.
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00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,560
Yes.
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00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,320
I think the first thing
to say is, I'm so glad
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00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:22,440
you've taken the trouble
to come in to see us today.
416
00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,680
No, you're not.
Don't be stupid.
417
00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,720
Well, no...
I'm a pain in the ass,
I know I am.
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00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,720
Well, it's very much my arse
that... You know, I mean
you've come to the right...
419
00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,480
I've come to the right ass?
420
00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,760
Back at
New Broadcasting House,
Ian has finally taken up
421
00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,440
a position
with Nigel Trescott.
422
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,800
The point is, it's absolutely
there for you to be a pain in.
423
00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,480
Right, so how do
we go on from here?
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00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,440
Well, no, I hear
what you're saying, Nigel.
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00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,639
I'm going to make it
my business to get
on top of this.
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00:18:42,679 --> 00:18:44,240
Yeah, you say that...
427
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,360
And I'm going to
come back to you with
some sort of response.
428
00:18:46,399 --> 00:18:47,840
Yeah, you did the Olympics,
didn't you?
429
00:18:47,879 --> 00:18:49,480
Well, I wouldn't say
I personally...
430
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,960
How many Cornish athletes
in the Olympics?
431
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,120
That's a rhetorical question.
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00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,960
How many?
Sorry, I thought
it was a rhetorical...
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Four. Yes.
Four. Right.
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00:18:59,679 --> 00:19:00,879
They all lost. Ah.
435
00:19:00,919 --> 00:19:01,960
Every single one
of the buggers.
436
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,520
Right, well,
that wasn't really my area.
437
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,080
Ah, course it isn't.
Cornwall never
bloody is, is it?
438
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,280
8:00
on another morning.
439
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,399
Ian has now been in his new
job for nearly two weeks.
440
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,639
Morning.
Hi.
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00:19:26,679 --> 00:19:28,840
Forward with Fletcher, eh?
Yes. Hi.
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00:19:28,879 --> 00:19:32,800
With his honeymoon
period at last behind him,
today is a big day.
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This morning sees
the first ever meeting of
the Way Ahead Task Force
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with Ian in the chair.
445
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,919
Glad I caught you, actually.
Oh, right?
446
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,280
For what it's worth, I think
you've put together a really
rather wonderful team.
447
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,040
Well, I hope so.
And on that subject...
448
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,320
I usually go saddle next,
for what it's worth.
Yes, thank you.
449
00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:49,520
On that subject, I was going
to forward you an e-mail from
Tony, but then I thought,
450
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,200
"No, sod it. It's good news.
I'll tell him myself."
451
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,760
Good news?
Rather fabulous
news, actually.
452
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,000
Right.
You going up, eventually?
453
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,960
Yes.
Good-oh.
454
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,040
No, I think we're announcing
it at lunch time or something
455
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,840
but we may have to
find one more chair
around the Way Ahead table,
456
00:20:04,879 --> 00:20:06,639
if that's all right with you.
457
00:20:06,679 --> 00:20:08,200
One more chair?
That's if we can find a room
with any chairs at all.
458
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,720
We should be so lucky.
I've booked Frankie Howerd.
459
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,040
Oh, brilliant. Brilliant
One more chair?
460
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,720
Yes.
461
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,200
Sixth floor.
462
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,360
So, basically, you know
what Tony's like?
Well, still no, actually.
463
00:20:18,399 --> 00:20:21,440
He has these very clear ideas
and he acts on them.
Right, yes.
464
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,600
And his current thinking
is "Brand BBC".
Yes. Is it?
465
00:20:24,639 --> 00:20:26,800
Yep, so his thinking is,
we've already got the guy
466
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,040
who did the London
Olympics. Tick. Right.
467
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,560
And London 2012 was about
the most successful brand
in the history of brands.
468
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,440
Where is this going?
469
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,679
So why don't we find out
who did that and
let's get them too? Tick.
470
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,360
I'm sorry, sorry, Simon,
so what are you
actually telling me?
471
00:20:39,399 --> 00:20:41,440
Oh, we've already
got Fred Astaire.
What do you do?
472
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,120
You get Ginger Rogers.
473
00:20:43,159 --> 00:20:45,159
No, but okay, here's the thing
with BBC Four, okay...
No, shut up.
474
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,120
The thing with BBC Four
is it's like a Marmite
channel, okay?
475
00:20:47,159 --> 00:20:49,440
And the thing with Marmite
is it's like no one
eats that shit, okay?
476
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,280
No, Fran. Okay, don't care.
Shut up. Got to go.
Okay, okay.
477
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,760
Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
478
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,120
Ian, Hey!
479
00:20:56,159 --> 00:20:57,960
You know Siobhan,
of course.
480
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,159
This is going to be so fun.
481
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,159
Brilliant.
482
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,200
For Ian, the first
ever Way Ahead meeting
is a key opportunity
483
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,639
to consolidate whatever
authority he might have
in his new job
484
00:21:10,679 --> 00:21:12,960
as well to think
some big thoughts.
485
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,240
Will, can you do
something for me?
Yeah, sure. Yeah, cool.
486
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,080
If you've got a minute,
would you be able to go down
and get me a cappuccino?
487
00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:20,440
Cool, yeah.
You know, a proper one
from downstairs?
488
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,879
Yeah, no, a latte.
No, a cappuccino.
489
00:21:22,919 --> 00:21:25,159
Okay, yeah.
And then if you could bring
it in to me in the meeting...
490
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,120
Right. What, so...
No, it's fine,
just, you know,
491
00:21:27,159 --> 00:21:29,399
just knock and walk in.
That's all. You don't
need to say anything.
492
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,840
Okay.
Thanks, Will.
That'd be really great.
493
00:21:30,879 --> 00:21:32,159
Just come in?
Yes.
494
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,960
Cool.
I'll settle up with you
afterwards, obviously.
495
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,639
Yeah, no worries. Great.
496
00:21:35,679 --> 00:21:37,639
A cappuccino. Yes.
497
00:21:37,679 --> 00:21:38,720
Okay, cool.
498
00:21:43,399 --> 00:21:45,399
Well, first of all,
welcome, everybody,
499
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,240
and welcome to the first ever
Way Ahead Task Force Group.
500
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,320
Yay.
I suppose I could say,
really, welcome to the future.
501
00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:52,639
Amen.
502
00:21:52,679 --> 00:21:54,600
Guys, we are
so going to kill here.
503
00:21:54,639 --> 00:21:58,159
Of the many meetings
he's been to in his first
two weeks at the BBC,
504
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,919
this is one where Ian
finally has the chance to put
505
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,800
the value of Values
literally on the agenda.
506
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,960
There's one word
that I want us to take
with us on the journey
507
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,840
and to set the term
for everything we do,
that word is confidence.
508
00:22:08,879 --> 00:22:10,120
Confidence.
Brilliant.
509
00:22:10,159 --> 00:22:11,679
Sure.
Christ.
510
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,280
There are going to
be challenges ahead,
of course there are,
511
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,120
but we are fortunate enough
to be sitting at the centre
512
00:22:15,159 --> 00:22:17,240
of the greatest broadcasting organisation,
513
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,000
arguably one of the greatest
ideas in the world.
514
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,240
BBC, BBC...
Yes, exactly.
515
00:22:23,639 --> 00:22:25,200
And... And as we embark
on this journey,
516
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,760
I feel it's a good time
to remind ourselves of that.
517
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,040
Fuck!
Okay, good.
518
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,439
And in the spirit of...
519
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,600
And in the spirit of
thinking big thoughts,
520
00:22:32,639 --> 00:22:34,560
I just wanted to outline
521
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,840
in broad strokes what
I think are some of the...
522
00:22:36,879 --> 00:22:38,679
Ah. Okay.
Yes, just some of the key...
523
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,800
Ah, righty-ho.
Right, some of the...
524
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,760
Sorry, Ian.
We've got to do this. Right.
525
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,960
Brilliant.
Okay, here we go.
526
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,639
BBC's nightly
regional news programme,
Spotlight South West,
527
00:22:50,679 --> 00:22:54,000
since the mid '90s,
but despite repeated attempts,
528
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,800
Sally Wingate has never
made the step up
to national bulletins.
529
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,960
I'll be back on
Monday with Nick,
530
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,919
and hopefully more on how
those badgers are getting on.
531
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,720
Now she says she
believes that could be down
to the corporation's
532
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,240
institutional anti-West Country bias.
533
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,399
What?
Bollocks.
534
00:23:11,439 --> 00:23:14,960
I mean, nothing's ever said
but it's almost as if
the accent alone is enough,
535
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,919
which when you think about it
is doubly unfair because
536
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,320
I've never had a West Country
accent and I'm not
actually from Cornwall.
537
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:24,120
So do you feel you've
been discriminated against?
538
00:23:24,159 --> 00:23:26,120
Yes. I suppose
I do feel that. Yes.
539
00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:29,120
Mebyon Kernow's
Nigel Trescott
says there's nothing
540
00:23:29,159 --> 00:23:31,560
about Sally Wingate's story
that surprises him.
541
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,399
There's nothing wrong
with being Cornish. It's not
something to be ashamed of.
542
00:23:34,439 --> 00:23:36,360
Oh, right. Here we go.
Alistair, what the fuck?
543
00:23:36,399 --> 00:23:37,600
...there's nothing wrong
being a woman either.
544
00:23:37,639 --> 00:23:40,200
Fact is, if you're a woman,
from Cornwall,
545
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,679
and you work for the BBC...
546
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,960
Yeah, okay.
Thank you. Shut up.
547
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,280
...you might as well pack up
and go home.
548
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,439
No, bollocks, Alistair.
I'm coming down. Right.
549
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,960
This is our own.
This is the BBC News Channel,
for fuck's sake.
550
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,720
Not Kamikaze fucking Corner.
551
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,399
Right. Okay. Bummer.
552
00:23:53,439 --> 00:23:56,960
So, that's happened. Brilliant.
553
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,200
Hi, Will.
Oh, yeah, hey, yeah.
554
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,800
You okay?
Yeah, cool. So, yeah...
555
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,000
I'm just going down to that
cafe on the ground floor. Okay.
556
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,800
I was thinking,
if you wanted anything...
Oh, right.
557
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,560
I'm going to get
Ian Fletcher a cappuccino.
558
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,960
No, I don't think so,
really. No.
559
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,040
Okay.
I'm good, thank you.
560
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,520
Okay, cool.
But thank you.
561
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,639
Yeah, no worries. Cool.
562
00:24:26,679 --> 00:24:28,080
Actually, do you know what?
Yeah, hi.
563
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:31,080
I will have a skinny latte.
Cool. Yeah. Cappuccino.
564
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:32,679
No, a latte.
Yeah, cool, yeah.
565
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,439
If you're sure.
Yeah, cool. Yeah. A latte.
Yeah, cool.
566
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,080
So, guys,
so here's the thing with this.
567
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:44,280
So what you're looking
at here is a major
brand message dropout.
568
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,840
What?
Yes, okay. Thanks, Siobhan.
569
00:24:45,879 --> 00:24:47,560
No, all I'm just saying
is you don't triage
this thing now,
570
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,240
you're so going to be
up to your ass
in alligators here.
571
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,480
Yes, thank you.
572
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,679
Meanwhile,
back in Frankie Howerd,
573
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,800
such is the gravity of the
situation that they've now
been joined by Head of Output
574
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,280
Anna Rampton, which
means things have got
very serious indeed.
575
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,000
There's already been an e-mail
from BBC Director
General Lord Tony Hall
576
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,520
asking for clarification
on the corporation's handling
of the Sally Wingate issue.
577
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,960
What we need here
is a strategy.
Yes, exactly, yes.
578
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,520
Brilliant. So, Ian,
what's your thinking?
579
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,320
Well...
Where's your gut on this?
580
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:16,639
I mean, with strategy,
I suppose I'm mindful that
581
00:25:16,679 --> 00:25:18,120
that's actually
your area, Simon.
582
00:25:18,159 --> 00:25:19,760
Oh, now, pish.
Don't want to
tread on anyone's...
583
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,800
No, nonsense.
Tell us what to do.
584
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,480
I mean, Anna, obviously,
Programmes isn't my area.
585
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,280
No.
Will, yes. So forgive me,
586
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,000
I just want to put this
out there for discussion. Yes.
587
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,240
Yes, Will, it's fine. Come in.
588
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,000
Thanks, Will. That's great.
589
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:35,679
It's cappuccino.
Yes, great.
590
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,159
Yeah, okay. Yeah. Thanks.
591
00:25:37,199 --> 00:25:40,240
No, it's cool. Crap.
592
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,600
Great, so, yes.
No, Anna, I was just thinking,
is there something
593
00:25:42,639 --> 00:25:45,000
we might be able to
find for Sally Wingate
that might actually...
594
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,399
Right, yes. Good.
Flog It!
595
00:25:46,439 --> 00:25:48,320
No.
Snog Marry Avoid?
596
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:49,879
Well, yes, or...
I so love that show.
597
00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:51,679
Yes, or I don't know,
some sort of Bake Off...
598
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,960
Yes, good, very strong. Springwatch.
599
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,800
Well, now... Good.
600
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,800
Badgers in Cornwall.
There's all your problems
solved in one go.
601
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,520
Okay, okay, okay, Loose Women.
602
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,639
Yes, so that's an ITV show. Perfect.
603
00:26:00,679 --> 00:26:03,879
I mean, Anna, might it be
worth thinking about
Britain's Tastiest Village?
604
00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:05,760
No. I'm sorry.
Now you're talking.
605
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,480
Well, I just mean,
if it's a new show we've got
coming through anyway...
606
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,800
The fact is, Village is
appointment-to-view
television.
607
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,840
But I mean, might it be worth
considering for a moment?
No.
608
00:26:12,879 --> 00:26:14,280
No, okay, right.
No, it's not.
609
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,520
Okay, so we can be confident
about that and take that
610
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,639
straight off the list
of possible solutions
to worry about.
611
00:26:18,679 --> 00:26:19,800
Yes.
So that's all good.
612
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,000
Cool.
And so we move on.
613
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,240
Brilliant.
614
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,560
Okay, so...
Now back to preferences.
615
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,800
Okay.
616
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,399
Uh, no, preferences.
617
00:26:27,439 --> 00:26:29,439
Oh, okay.
618
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,760
Keyboard.
619
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:32,679
Yep.
620
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,760
Uh, shortcuts. Yeah.
621
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,520
Now, services. Right.
622
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,360
And there you go,
capture full screen.
623
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,560
Cool.
Yeah, and you can just
assign whatever you like.
624
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,960
Oh, right. No, okay, I see.
625
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,040
That is so neat.
626
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,520
Yeah.
627
00:27:04,679 --> 00:27:07,120
I mean, this is
such bad luck for you,
this, honestly.
628
00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:08,639
Well, I mean... For me?
629
00:27:08,679 --> 00:27:10,199
You must be thinking,
"I've barely got my feet
under my desk."
630
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,320
I mean, I haven't got a desk
to put any feet under yet.
631
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,879
No, I know. Yes, brilliant!
Outrageous.
632
00:27:14,919 --> 00:27:17,480
But broadcasting
is a world lived in real-time.
633
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,520
And whatever that means,
by the end of the day,
634
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,480
events have already been
overtaken by other events.
635
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,439
Yes, right, 'cause I'm not
being funny or anything,
636
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,879
but it's genocide
in the Press Office
and not in a good way.
637
00:27:26,919 --> 00:27:29,480
There's now
been an e-mail from
Lord Chris Patten,
638
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,639
Chair of the BBC Trust,
asking for an urgent response
639
00:27:32,679 --> 00:27:36,040
to Director General
Lord Tony Hall's
earlier e-mail
640
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,800
seeking clarification
on the BBC's treatment
of Sally Wingate.
641
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,199
And she's come up with this
frankly rather brilliant idea.
642
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,080
I don't know about brilliant,
but I don't mind saying
I'm quite pleased with it.
643
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,879
Hold on to your hat.
Woman's Hour.
644
00:27:46,919 --> 00:27:48,080
Woman's Hour?
I know.
645
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:49,720
Right.
It's joyous.
646
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,800
I've got you on tomorrow,
with Jenni Murray.
Got me on?
647
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,720
Tony actually sent me
a smiley face.
Did he?
648
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,399
'Cause when you think
about this, it is actually
the perfect forum.
649
00:27:56,439 --> 00:27:57,720
Yes, now, hang on.
Wait a minute...
650
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,679
I took a bit of
a flier with it.
Well, yes.
651
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,560
I know Helen, the producer.
I know some people find
her a bit frightening,
652
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,480
but I personally don't take
any nonsense from her
653
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,080
and I can't speak for her, obviously,
654
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,040
but I think
she respects me for that. Brilliant.
655
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,320
What about
asking me though?
Asking you?
656
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:10,560
Yes.
No, they don't need to, Ian.
657
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,760
I said yes on your behalf.
Right. I see.
658
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,639
I hope that's all right.
Yes. No, that's fine.
659
00:28:14,679 --> 00:28:16,159
But what am I actually saying?
660
00:28:16,199 --> 00:28:17,600
Right, yes. Very good.
661
00:28:17,639 --> 00:28:19,720
I'm not being
funny or anything, Ian,
but this is serious.
662
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,720
I know it is.
We're dealing with
what's in front of us.
663
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,159
This is in front of me.
We are in emergency
mode here.
664
00:28:24,199 --> 00:28:26,080
I've got you Jenni Murray.
665
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,120
You'll have time to think
about what you want to
say on the train up
666
00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:30,520
and I'll be there
to help with that.
The train up where?
667
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,360
All you need to do right now
is decide whether you want
to go up tonight,
668
00:28:33,399 --> 00:28:35,120
or catch the early
train in the morning.
669
00:28:36,439 --> 00:28:39,520
Manchester?
No, bad luck.
670
00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:43,439
Ian, welcome to Woman's Hour.
671
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,040
It's very good to be here,
Jenni. Thank you.
672
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,800
So I'm standing there
and I'm getting, like, a text
673
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,560
and I look down
and it's, like, Clare Balding.
674
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,480
So, that's Dame
Clare Balding, okay.
675
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,639
Carol's in this morning.
I know. It's a nightmare.
676
00:28:53,679 --> 00:28:56,040
I'm sorry, Siobhan,
you can't do this.
De nada.
677
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,800
No, do you know what? I don't
want a bloody coffee, thanks.
678
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,959
No, she doesn't want that. No.
679
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,600
Enjoy the, you know,
enjoy your water.
680
00:29:01,639 --> 00:29:03,679
I'm not being
funny or anything,
but I think we might have
681
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,199
a bit of a situation
on our hands here.
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