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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,173 --> 00:00:08,090 Now I understand you had a roug. 2 00:00:08,134 --> 00:00:10,342 Ah, you wrestled a lady, and sh. 3 00:00:10,386 --> 00:00:12,177 Yeah, well... 4 00:00:12,221 --> 00:00:13,679 If that's what it takes to try , 5 00:00:13,723 --> 00:00:14,638 that's what I'll do. 6 00:00:14,682 --> 00:00:16,265 (cheering) 7 00:00:16,308 --> 00:00:17,433 you can't say "women's wrestlin" 8 00:00:17,476 --> 00:00:19,935 without thinking the fabulous m. 9 00:00:19,979 --> 00:00:22,771 If she had not run the women's , 10 00:00:22,815 --> 00:00:24,398 there may not have been women's. 11 00:00:24,442 --> 00:00:26,275 Introducing, first, to my right, 12 00:00:26,318 --> 00:00:28,569 former world women's champion... 13 00:00:28,612 --> 00:00:30,487 The fabulous moolah! 14 00:00:30,531 --> 00:00:32,656 (cheering) 15 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:35,451 as moolah, the promoter, I wanty 16 00:00:35,494 --> 00:00:37,786 for my talent and I want to mak. 17 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:39,246 (cheering) 18 00:00:39,290 --> 00:00:42,124 oh, come on! 19 00:00:42,168 --> 00:00:45,026 Even to this day, if you say, "" 20 00:00:45,028 --> 00:00:48,705 the picture of moolah appears I. 21 00:00:48,740 --> 00:00:51,508 ♪ 22 00:00:51,552 --> 00:00:54,178 if moolah was alive today... 23 00:00:54,221 --> 00:00:56,305 I'd probably slap her. 24 00:00:56,348 --> 00:00:59,349 She was so jealous of any woman 25 00:00:59,393 --> 00:01:02,686 that was younger than her in wr. 26 00:01:02,730 --> 00:01:05,439 She was also a manipulator, and. 27 00:01:05,483 --> 00:01:08,901 She wanted to hurt me... Bruise. 28 00:01:08,944 --> 00:01:11,195 (shouting) 29 00:01:11,238 --> 00:01:12,780 I'll knock your teeth out! 30 00:01:12,823 --> 00:01:15,866 There was drugs; there was sex; 31 00:01:15,910 --> 00:01:19,036 there was a lot of abuse with m. 32 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,332 I'm like, wow, they waited 'tily 33 00:01:23,375 --> 00:01:25,918 all these things so she couldn'. 34 00:01:25,961 --> 00:01:29,713 I was warned, but I wanted to w. 35 00:01:29,757 --> 00:01:33,217 She gave her whole life to prof. 36 00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:37,387 She gave all these girls an opp, 37 00:01:37,431 --> 00:01:40,015 for nobody to stand up for her,. 38 00:01:40,059 --> 00:01:42,267 Just couldn't deal with it. 39 00:01:42,311 --> 00:01:45,562 She was a great professional wr. 40 00:01:45,606 --> 00:01:49,733 But she didn't know when to sto. 41 00:01:49,777 --> 00:01:52,694 On this episode, the life... 42 00:01:52,738 --> 00:01:56,156 Legend, and controversy of the . 43 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,368 (bell chimes) 44 00:01:59,411 --> 00:02:02,121 ♪ 45 00:02:02,164 --> 00:02:04,289 (match bell chimes) 46 00:02:04,333 --> 00:02:08,210 ...Fabulous moolah, with a wwf . 47 00:02:08,254 --> 00:02:10,838 She made all of her costumes he. 48 00:02:10,881 --> 00:02:14,133 Anything flashy, she loved. 49 00:02:14,176 --> 00:02:16,552 She was just that kind of perso. 50 00:02:16,595 --> 00:02:19,171 It really never impressed me the 51 00:02:19,181 --> 00:02:21,348 to me she was just my mother ant 52 00:02:21,392 --> 00:02:25,018 really realize how popular she . 53 00:02:25,062 --> 00:02:27,354 My name is mary austin, 54 00:02:27,398 --> 00:02:31,441 and I'm the only child of the f. 55 00:02:31,485 --> 00:02:34,403 My mother kind of kept me out o, 56 00:02:34,446 --> 00:02:37,197 but she loved the spotlight. (l) 57 00:02:37,241 --> 00:02:38,866 she was determined to do it. 58 00:02:38,909 --> 00:02:41,201 When you really love something, 59 00:02:41,236 --> 00:02:43,745 you put yourself into it, and s. 60 00:02:43,789 --> 00:02:46,623 This is one mary let me have. A, 61 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:50,586 how beautiful it is - sparkly, . 62 00:02:50,621 --> 00:02:51,920 - (laughs) - oh, yeah. 63 00:02:51,964 --> 00:02:56,008 My name is selina majors. I wre. 64 00:02:56,051 --> 00:02:58,218 Started in 1986. 65 00:02:58,262 --> 00:02:59,761 I've been in it for 32 years. 66 00:02:59,805 --> 00:03:04,141 I wanted my name, as a kid, to , 67 00:03:04,185 --> 00:03:05,851 so I've got these big posters t, 68 00:03:05,886 --> 00:03:07,561 "the fabulous moolah champion v. 69 00:03:07,605 --> 00:03:09,646 Dynamite dixie majors". 70 00:03:09,690 --> 00:03:14,318 I had this life-size doll, and d 71 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:16,361 I would body slam it, and climb, 72 00:03:16,405 --> 00:03:19,615 and drop an elbow. 73 00:03:19,658 --> 00:03:20,616 I'd stand in front of the mirro, 74 00:03:20,659 --> 00:03:23,535 do little interviews and tell mh 75 00:03:23,570 --> 00:03:26,112 how I was gonna come and wrestl. 76 00:03:26,147 --> 00:03:30,042 As you can tell, I like the, th. 77 00:03:30,085 --> 00:03:31,710 She was a heel. She played that. 78 00:03:31,754 --> 00:03:32,878 My name's the fabulous moolah. 79 00:03:32,922 --> 00:03:35,839 I've been wrestling since I was, 80 00:03:35,883 --> 00:03:38,926 and I am the world's champion l. 81 00:03:38,969 --> 00:03:41,929 They hated her, but that's what. 82 00:03:41,972 --> 00:03:44,223 She's nasty and she cheats! 83 00:03:44,266 --> 00:03:46,516 (shouting) 84 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,852 oh, I'd fix up a little spoon h, 85 00:03:48,896 --> 00:03:50,729 about the size of your finger, 86 00:03:50,773 --> 00:03:52,356 roll it up with tape and put it. 87 00:03:52,399 --> 00:03:55,651 The meaner she was, the more th. 88 00:03:55,694 --> 00:03:57,444 And she loved being a heel. 89 00:03:57,488 --> 00:03:59,863 Stick it in their eyes, in the . 90 00:03:59,907 --> 00:04:01,573 Ha! 91 00:04:01,617 --> 00:04:04,618 The fabulous moolah started as , 92 00:04:04,662 --> 00:04:07,079 and then she became the female , 93 00:04:07,122 --> 00:04:09,748 and then she became the booker . 94 00:04:09,792 --> 00:04:12,000 I first broke into wrestling as. 95 00:04:12,044 --> 00:04:13,335 I was a 15-year-old kid and I we 96 00:04:13,379 --> 00:04:16,004 photography that was sold in the 97 00:04:16,048 --> 00:04:17,497 memphis wrestling territory. 98 00:04:17,532 --> 00:04:20,550 "moolah, can I get a couple of " 99 00:04:20,594 --> 00:04:22,052 always say for the magazines, r. 100 00:04:22,096 --> 00:04:23,929 "why of course you can, darling" 101 00:04:23,964 --> 00:04:25,889 and she had her stock poses. Bo, 102 00:04:25,933 --> 00:04:28,642 and 30 seconds and she's off to. 103 00:04:28,686 --> 00:04:31,645 Moolah pioneered the hair pulli, 104 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:37,067 scratching, crowd-pleasing kind. 105 00:04:37,111 --> 00:04:40,320 She broke glass ceilings, one a. 106 00:04:40,364 --> 00:04:44,074 She got into wrestling when the. 107 00:04:44,118 --> 00:04:47,995 Women's wrestling was actually , 108 00:04:48,038 --> 00:04:51,999 and moolah was the one that was. 109 00:04:52,042 --> 00:04:53,583 She was the featured girl in the 110 00:04:53,627 --> 00:04:54,793 first girl's match in the garde. 111 00:04:54,837 --> 00:05:00,340 Now that she's almost 60, she's. 112 00:05:00,384 --> 00:05:03,010 It's 1984, the rock 'n' wrestli. 113 00:05:03,053 --> 00:05:07,097 Cyndi lauper and that whole era, 114 00:05:07,141 --> 00:05:09,308 and madison square garden, and , 115 00:05:09,351 --> 00:05:10,934 and rock 'n' roll stars... 116 00:05:10,978 --> 00:05:14,146 And this place is ready to expl! 117 00:05:14,189 --> 00:05:17,357 ...Got so much national attentid 118 00:05:17,401 --> 00:05:18,257 everybody else started looking , 119 00:05:18,259 --> 00:05:19,401 at pro wrestling. 120 00:05:19,445 --> 00:05:23,554 She made it from the mid-50s to, 121 00:05:23,556 --> 00:05:25,824 for the biggest payoff she ever. 122 00:05:25,868 --> 00:05:27,576 There she is, the fabulous one, 123 00:05:27,619 --> 00:05:29,536 the fabulous moolah... 124 00:05:29,580 --> 00:05:31,663 Putting her title on the line! 125 00:05:31,707 --> 00:05:34,374 There'll never be anyone to hav, 126 00:05:34,418 --> 00:05:37,961 the guts that she had. 127 00:05:38,005 --> 00:05:41,131 This must have been really old. 128 00:05:41,175 --> 00:05:42,707 Look at that. Look at her hair. 129 00:05:42,718 --> 00:05:45,469 This is a wrestling license. 130 00:05:45,512 --> 00:05:47,846 Her mom passed away when she wa. 131 00:05:47,890 --> 00:05:51,600 And then, it was her dad and he, 132 00:05:51,643 --> 00:05:53,602 so she learned how to fight rea. 133 00:05:53,645 --> 00:05:56,229 It was rough for her. 134 00:05:56,273 --> 00:05:59,566 I was an only child and she was. 135 00:05:59,610 --> 00:06:02,486 She went to wrestling matches e, 136 00:06:02,529 --> 00:06:04,154 and my mother saw mildred burke. 137 00:06:04,198 --> 00:06:06,365 She said, "that's what I want t" 138 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,367 it's mildred burke, of los ange, 139 00:06:08,410 --> 00:06:10,035 world champion. 140 00:06:10,079 --> 00:06:12,079 Back in the 30s and 40s, 141 00:06:12,122 --> 00:06:14,373 mildred burke was such a legiti. 142 00:06:14,416 --> 00:06:16,500 She was in tremendous shape, 143 00:06:16,543 --> 00:06:18,960 and she just had a natural flai. 144 00:06:19,004 --> 00:06:20,837 But behind the scenes, billy wo, 145 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:22,839 mildred burke's husband, was pud 146 00:06:22,883 --> 00:06:24,299 managing the whole women's troo, 147 00:06:24,343 --> 00:06:27,094 for good and bad. 148 00:06:27,137 --> 00:06:30,764 When she was 17 or 18, she went. 149 00:06:30,808 --> 00:06:32,724 When you became a wrestler for , 150 00:06:32,768 --> 00:06:35,435 you automatically had to... Go . 151 00:06:35,470 --> 00:06:37,187 She said she wasn't doing it, 152 00:06:37,231 --> 00:06:39,898 and she could find some other wt 153 00:06:39,942 --> 00:06:42,401 having to go to bed with him or. 154 00:06:42,444 --> 00:06:44,152 What's the worst experience you, 155 00:06:44,196 --> 00:06:45,404 you might want to say that, lik, 156 00:06:45,439 --> 00:06:47,197 you ever had with a promoter? 157 00:06:47,241 --> 00:06:49,241 (laughs) that's kind of hard to. 158 00:06:49,284 --> 00:06:51,243 - Really is. - Hm. 159 00:06:51,286 --> 00:06:53,120 The fabulous moolah, at one poi, 160 00:06:53,163 --> 00:06:54,996 was married to a guy named budd. 161 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,415 Buddy lee used to wrestle. 162 00:06:56,458 --> 00:07:00,293 Of course, they met and they so. 163 00:07:00,337 --> 00:07:02,754 And, she did most of the wrestl, 164 00:07:02,789 --> 00:07:04,923 and he did most of the booking. 165 00:07:04,967 --> 00:07:07,717 She basically copied the 166 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:09,994 mildred burke and billy wolfe p. 167 00:07:09,996 --> 00:07:13,181 They kept their own stable; the. 168 00:07:13,225 --> 00:07:15,392 And more importantly, a bookinge 169 00:07:15,436 --> 00:07:16,893 out of all of the girls' pay. 170 00:07:16,937 --> 00:07:20,397 You knew right off the bat why s 171 00:07:20,441 --> 00:07:22,274 and why she wanted to be a star: 172 00:07:22,317 --> 00:07:24,776 She loved money. (laughs) 173 00:07:24,820 --> 00:07:26,361 ♪ 174 00:07:26,405 --> 00:07:28,989 moolah would play such a dominan 175 00:07:29,032 --> 00:07:31,825 women's wrestling that in 2018, 176 00:07:31,869 --> 00:07:34,202 11 years after her death, 177 00:07:34,246 --> 00:07:37,414 her memory still loomed over th. 178 00:07:37,458 --> 00:07:38,665 The wwe made the announcement o, 179 00:07:38,709 --> 00:07:41,877 that they were going to honor th 180 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,254 by having the fabulous moolah m. 181 00:07:44,298 --> 00:07:46,840 I thought it was very nice that. 182 00:07:46,884 --> 00:07:50,302 Keeping her legacy going. 183 00:07:50,345 --> 00:07:53,805 2 or 3 days later, that'd all b. 184 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,015 Let's talk about the fabulous m. 185 00:07:55,058 --> 00:07:57,559 I think it's a bunch of bull. 186 00:07:57,603 --> 00:07:59,144 I really think it's a bunch of . 187 00:07:59,188 --> 00:08:01,354 Moolah has an awful past. 188 00:08:01,398 --> 00:08:03,231 Some really, really sick shit. 189 00:08:03,275 --> 00:08:04,983 She was an evil person. 190 00:08:05,027 --> 00:08:07,319 Moolah was pimping girls out. 191 00:08:07,362 --> 00:08:08,612 A lot of the stuff was alleged, 192 00:08:08,655 --> 00:08:10,614 we gotta say that. It's alleged. 193 00:08:10,657 --> 00:08:12,407 Grossed out about it. Name it s. 194 00:08:12,451 --> 00:08:13,909 It's not hard. Scrap it. 195 00:08:13,952 --> 00:08:17,454 ♪ 196 00:08:17,498 --> 00:08:19,122 stories started coming out on t, 197 00:08:19,166 --> 00:08:21,583 fabulous moolah, suddenly, was n 198 00:08:21,627 --> 00:08:23,710 who took advantage of all these, 199 00:08:23,754 --> 00:08:25,921 and pimped 'em out, and fed 'em, 200 00:08:25,964 --> 00:08:27,422 and all this stuff. 201 00:08:27,466 --> 00:08:31,551 They contacted the sponsors and. 202 00:08:31,595 --> 00:08:34,262 I was very shocked because I kn. 203 00:08:34,306 --> 00:08:35,972 I knew none of that was true. 204 00:08:36,016 --> 00:08:40,101 And, thanks to nigel, he took t. 205 00:08:40,145 --> 00:08:42,145 My name is nigel sherrod. 206 00:08:42,189 --> 00:08:44,189 I'm mostly known as a wrestling. 207 00:08:44,233 --> 00:08:48,026 The "fight for moolah" campaigne 208 00:08:48,070 --> 00:08:51,821 we started a petition to put th, 209 00:08:51,865 --> 00:08:54,908 and to honor the woman who broks 210 00:08:54,952 --> 00:08:56,451 for everybody else. 211 00:08:56,495 --> 00:08:58,411 I just wanted to clear her namee 212 00:08:58,455 --> 00:09:00,580 moolah's not here to defend her. 213 00:09:00,624 --> 00:09:04,042 Did moolah, indeed, take advant? 214 00:09:04,086 --> 00:09:05,544 Some of the girls have said yes, 215 00:09:05,587 --> 00:09:06,962 some of the girls have said no. 216 00:09:07,005 --> 00:09:11,508 I think that it was ignorant cah 217 00:09:11,552 --> 00:09:14,886 memorial battle royal because id 218 00:09:14,930 --> 00:09:17,889 over 20 women, and they all sai: 219 00:09:17,933 --> 00:09:18,723 "there's no truth to those rumo" 220 00:09:18,767 --> 00:09:20,225 ♪ 221 00:09:20,269 --> 00:09:23,853 accusations about moolah polari. 222 00:09:23,897 --> 00:09:28,275 They originated from an investiy 223 00:09:28,318 --> 00:09:30,652 that quoted serious allegationsy 224 00:09:30,696 --> 00:09:33,321 of one of her former wrestlers. 225 00:09:33,365 --> 00:09:36,950 St. Mark, if you see these guys, 226 00:09:36,994 --> 00:09:39,619 they, they are a professional f, 227 00:09:39,663 --> 00:09:42,872 and they are doing an episode dh 228 00:09:42,916 --> 00:09:45,625 pro women wrestlers... 229 00:09:45,669 --> 00:09:49,713 Which one of 'em was my mother,s 230 00:09:49,756 --> 00:09:52,215 first black female professional, 231 00:09:52,259 --> 00:09:53,592 sweet georgia brown. 232 00:09:53,635 --> 00:09:57,220 (applause) 233 00:09:57,264 --> 00:09:59,723 I'm michael mccoy. 234 00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:03,351 I'm senior pastor at st. Mark b. 235 00:10:03,395 --> 00:10:05,478 That article that came out in t, 236 00:10:05,522 --> 00:10:09,441 it was about what my mother hade 237 00:10:09,484 --> 00:10:11,651 while she was in wrestling. 238 00:10:11,695 --> 00:10:14,279 I started a search to try to fi. 239 00:10:14,323 --> 00:10:16,072 Maybe you could just tell us yod 240 00:10:16,116 --> 00:10:17,324 a little bit about yourself. 241 00:10:17,367 --> 00:10:19,701 Yes, my name is barbara harsey, 242 00:10:19,745 --> 00:10:24,164 and I am the proud daughter of . 243 00:10:24,207 --> 00:10:26,541 - Who is also known as? - Sweet. 244 00:10:26,585 --> 00:10:29,044 ♪ 245 00:10:29,087 --> 00:10:32,505 when my mom went into wrestling, 246 00:10:32,549 --> 00:10:36,426 she was with the so-called grea. 247 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:38,887 She said she was forced to do 248 00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:42,932 a lot of things against her wil. 249 00:10:42,976 --> 00:10:45,060 Now, these are just stories tha. 250 00:10:45,103 --> 00:10:46,436 Do I know any truth to 'em? 251 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,715 No, I can't sit here and say I . 252 00:10:50,717 --> 00:10:53,693 But, you know, when more than 1e 253 00:10:53,737 --> 00:10:56,905 saying the same story... 254 00:10:56,948 --> 00:10:58,531 You know, somebody ain't lying. 255 00:10:58,575 --> 00:11:04,537 ♪ 256 00:11:04,581 --> 00:11:07,457 philip... Honey. 257 00:11:07,501 --> 00:11:11,920 Can you walk these guys outside? 258 00:11:11,963 --> 00:11:13,630 This is my husband, philip. 259 00:11:13,674 --> 00:11:14,214 - Hi, how are y'all doing? - Ho? 260 00:11:14,257 --> 00:11:15,965 Sure, sure I can. 261 00:11:16,009 --> 00:11:18,301 ♪ 262 00:11:18,345 --> 00:11:21,262 - back here, hanging. - Oh, wow. 263 00:11:21,306 --> 00:11:23,890 Back when moolah died, my husba, 264 00:11:23,934 --> 00:11:30,271 he went over to tear down the b, 265 00:11:30,315 --> 00:11:34,109 and he found a banister, the wo, 266 00:11:34,152 --> 00:11:35,777 and he brought it back, thought, 267 00:11:35,821 --> 00:11:38,530 you know, keep it. 268 00:11:38,573 --> 00:11:40,699 For the better part of 25 years, 269 00:11:40,742 --> 00:11:42,867 every top girl wrestler was tra, 270 00:11:42,911 --> 00:11:45,578 booked out by moolah, and was c, 271 00:11:45,622 --> 00:11:46,955 by moolah's group. 272 00:11:46,998 --> 00:11:48,957 Can you tell us who sweet georg? 273 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:54,254 Yeah, she was one of the, the fn 274 00:11:54,297 --> 00:11:56,798 to wrestle, and my mother train. 275 00:11:56,842 --> 00:11:59,968 Believe it or not, it was on a . 276 00:12:00,011 --> 00:12:03,054 ♪ 277 00:12:03,089 --> 00:12:06,224 it was unreal, but they learned. 278 00:12:06,268 --> 00:12:09,144 I was told she had that drive t. 279 00:12:09,187 --> 00:12:10,520 You know, it was like she had a, 280 00:12:10,564 --> 00:12:13,231 she wanted to be there. 281 00:12:13,275 --> 00:12:15,024 The first time I seen her wrest, 282 00:12:15,068 --> 00:12:16,693 the place was jam packed. 283 00:12:16,737 --> 00:12:18,153 Throwing each other out the rin, 284 00:12:18,196 --> 00:12:21,823 they're kicking, body slamming. 285 00:12:21,950 --> 00:12:25,285 I just figured, you know, this . 286 00:12:25,328 --> 00:12:27,912 Being one of the first black fee 287 00:12:27,956 --> 00:12:33,626 wrestling business, the kkks wa. 288 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:36,129 Segregation was really bad at t. 289 00:12:36,173 --> 00:12:37,922 Whenever they were on the road, 290 00:12:37,966 --> 00:12:40,216 my mother was very protective. 291 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:42,427 There was a time in mississippi, 292 00:12:42,471 --> 00:12:45,805 she did have a run-in with some. 293 00:12:45,849 --> 00:12:48,391 She was thrown on the floor of , 294 00:12:48,435 --> 00:12:50,685 and she was scared for her life. 295 00:12:50,729 --> 00:12:53,897 ♪ 296 00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:56,608 she'd 'a had to have been super, 297 00:12:56,651 --> 00:13:00,695 in 1964, she was ranked #4 in t. 298 00:13:00,739 --> 00:13:03,573 If she would 'a had the opportur 299 00:13:03,617 --> 00:13:06,075 the world's title, she probably, 300 00:13:06,119 --> 00:13:08,870 but moolah was most definitely a 301 00:13:08,914 --> 00:13:11,873 student challenge her for the w. 302 00:13:11,917 --> 00:13:14,167 ♪ 303 00:13:14,211 --> 00:13:17,086 when my mom went into wrestling, 304 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:20,173 she left us with one of her sis. 305 00:13:20,217 --> 00:13:23,259 She'd call us names, "half-bree" 306 00:13:23,303 --> 00:13:25,261 she was a witch. 307 00:13:25,305 --> 00:13:28,473 God forgive me. She's dead and . 308 00:13:28,517 --> 00:13:31,976 Every time my mother went on th, 309 00:13:32,020 --> 00:13:33,478 just about, she was pregnant. 310 00:13:33,522 --> 00:13:36,105 One of my aunts said that, "eve, 311 00:13:36,149 --> 00:13:37,440 you come back home with one of , 312 00:13:37,484 --> 00:13:41,653 half white kids, half-breeds," , 313 00:13:41,696 --> 00:13:45,156 you know, for years growing up . 314 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,701 I hated where she had left us. 315 00:13:48,745 --> 00:13:50,954 I hated her career. 316 00:13:50,997 --> 00:13:53,957 But then, when I got the full s. 317 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,044 From her, I kind of understood. 318 00:13:58,088 --> 00:14:04,467 There's a lot of abuse with moo. 319 00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:06,219 I saw her one time; 320 00:14:06,263 --> 00:14:09,597 this big old car had pulled up. 321 00:14:09,641 --> 00:14:11,975 She was getting out the back of, 322 00:14:12,018 --> 00:14:16,020 and it was only for a few hours. 323 00:14:16,064 --> 00:14:18,523 I didn't know the man's name at, 324 00:14:18,567 --> 00:14:22,235 but he thought it was time to g. 325 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:24,863 My sister and I, we grabbed hol, 326 00:14:24,906 --> 00:14:26,698 but he kind of like pushed her, 327 00:14:26,741 --> 00:14:30,410 and she hit her head getting in. 328 00:14:30,453 --> 00:14:32,871 I don't know if it was intentio, 329 00:14:32,914 --> 00:14:35,957 or it was an accident. 330 00:14:36,001 --> 00:14:38,501 My mom said everywhere she wentd 331 00:14:38,545 --> 00:14:41,170 everything she did was done 332 00:14:41,214 --> 00:14:44,591 according to buddy lee and mool. 333 00:14:44,634 --> 00:14:49,470 I think she thought that it was, 334 00:14:49,514 --> 00:14:51,806 but it turned out to be somethi. 335 00:14:51,850 --> 00:14:53,892 ♪ 336 00:14:53,927 --> 00:14:57,395 I heard different stories about. 337 00:14:57,439 --> 00:14:58,813 It's real sad. 338 00:14:58,857 --> 00:15:03,568 And I have, I have no reason no. 339 00:15:03,612 --> 00:15:07,655 There was one gruesome time tha. 340 00:15:07,699 --> 00:15:13,277 She was told to drink, and pop , 341 00:15:13,288 --> 00:15:17,624 and she was made to have... 342 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:19,959 Sex with other men. 343 00:15:20,003 --> 00:15:21,753 On the road, some of the promoty 344 00:15:21,796 --> 00:15:26,633 some of the girls until they sl. 345 00:15:26,676 --> 00:15:32,263 From what my mother told me, sh. 346 00:15:32,307 --> 00:15:36,351 And you can call it entertainin. 347 00:15:36,394 --> 00:15:38,478 It's still pimping and prostitu. 348 00:15:38,521 --> 00:15:40,438 ♪ 349 00:15:40,482 --> 00:15:43,566 buddy lee was not a nice person, 350 00:15:43,610 --> 00:15:46,027 and my mother was on the road, 351 00:15:46,071 --> 00:15:48,363 and she came home a day early am 352 00:15:48,406 --> 00:15:51,658 in her bed with one of the girl. 353 00:15:51,701 --> 00:15:53,910 And, she threw buddy out; that . 354 00:15:53,954 --> 00:15:55,286 A lot of the girls went with hi. 355 00:15:55,330 --> 00:15:59,207 Georgia brown was one of the gi. 356 00:15:59,250 --> 00:16:00,917 I started to search for my fath, 357 00:16:00,961 --> 00:16:03,044 one of the first places where is 358 00:16:03,088 --> 00:16:04,462 with the fabulous moolah. 359 00:16:04,506 --> 00:16:08,967 Honestly, I was almost kind of e 360 00:16:09,002 --> 00:16:10,426 I heard of the moolah that evere 361 00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:13,221 talked about, but... 362 00:16:13,264 --> 00:16:17,308 The moolah that I met, she seem. 363 00:16:17,352 --> 00:16:19,352 I asked moolah, 364 00:16:19,396 --> 00:16:21,396 "did my mother ever talk about " 365 00:16:21,439 --> 00:16:23,564 and moolah took me to her wall d 366 00:16:23,608 --> 00:16:26,859 she pointed out this one pictur. 367 00:16:26,903 --> 00:16:29,570 And I said, "who is this guy ri" 368 00:16:29,614 --> 00:16:33,658 and she said, "well, his name I" 369 00:16:33,693 --> 00:16:36,327 he was kind of rough on the gir. 370 00:16:36,371 --> 00:16:37,787 I think that happened with swee, 371 00:16:37,831 --> 00:16:41,666 that she was one that had to go. 372 00:16:41,701 --> 00:16:44,252 And, matter of fact, I think th, 373 00:16:44,379 --> 00:16:47,338 is proof of that. 374 00:16:47,382 --> 00:16:49,966 If buddy lee's my father, then . 375 00:16:50,010 --> 00:16:52,010 I wasn't coming in to look for d 376 00:16:52,045 --> 00:16:53,928 I didn't want anything. 377 00:16:53,972 --> 00:16:58,266 I just wanted to close a chapte. 378 00:16:58,309 --> 00:17:01,102 I knew that everything was over 379 00:17:01,146 --> 00:17:04,647 when my uncle burned up 380 00:17:04,691 --> 00:17:07,358 all of her stuff and he poured , 381 00:17:07,402 --> 00:17:10,570 and he set it on fire. 382 00:17:10,613 --> 00:17:14,449 Right there in front of us. 383 00:17:14,492 --> 00:17:16,909 At the end, she kind of thankedf 384 00:17:16,953 --> 00:17:20,038 the things that she had to endu, 385 00:17:20,081 --> 00:17:24,250 the things that she was made to, 386 00:17:24,294 --> 00:17:28,963 by buddy lee, by the industry I. 387 00:17:29,007 --> 00:17:32,550 Listening to your mom describe e 388 00:17:32,594 --> 00:17:35,136 most horrific things she had to, 389 00:17:35,180 --> 00:17:38,431 you can't just walk away. 390 00:17:38,475 --> 00:17:41,100 Regardless of the abuse she wen, 391 00:17:41,144 --> 00:17:43,186 regardless of if they made her , 392 00:17:43,229 --> 00:17:47,398 they made her use alcohol, whet. 393 00:17:47,442 --> 00:17:49,984 She still was south carolina's 394 00:17:50,028 --> 00:17:52,320 first black female professional. 395 00:17:52,363 --> 00:17:55,615 Honor it. 396 00:17:55,658 --> 00:17:58,409 Sweet georgia brown's life was y 397 00:17:58,444 --> 00:18:00,787 forces beyond her control. 398 00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:02,205 For moolah to succeed, 399 00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:05,774 she would need to build her own. 400 00:18:05,776 --> 00:18:11,798 ♪ 401 00:18:11,841 --> 00:18:13,841 the fabulous moolah single-handr 402 00:18:13,885 --> 00:18:15,968 women's training school into a e 403 00:18:16,012 --> 00:18:17,637 that dominated the industry. 404 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,557 It attracted young women eager . 405 00:18:21,601 --> 00:18:24,268 In columbia, south carolina, thd 406 00:18:24,312 --> 00:18:28,356 moolah drive (laughs) and on moe 407 00:18:28,399 --> 00:18:31,150 house that moolah built, and al, 408 00:18:31,194 --> 00:18:34,011 a variety of other buildings. I. 409 00:18:34,013 --> 00:18:35,446 The women not only trained ther, 410 00:18:35,490 --> 00:18:36,572 but they lived on the property d 411 00:18:36,616 --> 00:18:40,660 moolah presided over it like a . 412 00:18:40,703 --> 00:18:44,622 She took girls from all walks o, 413 00:18:44,666 --> 00:18:48,334 and she brought 'em in, she tau. 414 00:18:48,378 --> 00:18:50,461 She put it together like a groud 415 00:18:50,505 --> 00:18:54,757 took care of the girls, and mad. 416 00:18:54,801 --> 00:18:57,051 She was one of the most powerfun 417 00:18:57,095 --> 00:18:59,220 in the wrestling business. 418 00:18:59,347 --> 00:19:01,139 If you were a female wrestler ad 419 00:19:01,182 --> 00:19:03,516 you wanted to get booked, you po 420 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,518 go through moolah or you weren'. 421 00:19:05,562 --> 00:19:08,813 ♪ 422 00:19:08,857 --> 00:19:11,315 - I have a bunch of questions. . 423 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,650 I took my truth serum before I . 424 00:19:12,694 --> 00:19:14,277 Okay. (laughs) 425 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,821 my name is wendi richter. 426 00:19:16,865 --> 00:19:19,565 Wendi richter! 427 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,952 I was a professional wrestler f. 428 00:19:22,996 --> 00:19:25,413 The first time I ever watched a, 429 00:19:25,456 --> 00:19:29,834 I watched the fabulous moolah v. 430 00:19:29,878 --> 00:19:33,921 And I told my friend, "I could " 431 00:19:33,965 --> 00:19:38,009 the referee gave me moolah's ph. 432 00:19:38,052 --> 00:19:40,845 She told me to come on to colum. 433 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,181 I was there within 2 weeks. 434 00:19:43,216 --> 00:19:44,932 My name's victoria otis. 435 00:19:44,976 --> 00:19:48,352 I wrestled as princess victoria. 436 00:19:48,396 --> 00:19:51,606 ...Victoria! 437 00:19:51,649 --> 00:19:54,400 I come from a very, very abusiv, 438 00:19:54,444 --> 00:19:57,695 and that's basically what took . 439 00:19:57,739 --> 00:19:59,488 You had to want it. 440 00:19:59,532 --> 00:20:02,575 You had to bleed, you had to cr. 441 00:20:02,619 --> 00:20:05,077 When I was wrestling, it had be, 442 00:20:05,121 --> 00:20:07,788 and I was told by my promoter, 443 00:20:07,832 --> 00:20:10,249 "look, I've done all I can do. 444 00:20:10,293 --> 00:20:12,251 I've tried to get you booked ot. 445 00:20:12,295 --> 00:20:13,753 The only way I can get you books 446 00:20:13,796 --> 00:20:16,380 I gotta send you to moolah." 447 00:20:16,424 --> 00:20:18,674 I still remember a friend of mi, 448 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:20,593 "vickie," he said, "don't go to. 449 00:20:20,637 --> 00:20:22,678 Find a job, get on your feet. 450 00:20:22,722 --> 00:20:25,348 Just don't go to moolah's." 451 00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:28,267 I was warned, but I wanted to w. 452 00:20:28,311 --> 00:20:31,270 ♪ 453 00:20:31,314 --> 00:20:34,065 when you first got to the prope, 454 00:20:34,108 --> 00:20:36,525 there's these big gates. 455 00:20:36,569 --> 00:20:39,019 After dark, the gates were lock. 456 00:20:39,054 --> 00:20:41,155 If you weren't home and you wer, 457 00:20:41,199 --> 00:20:43,532 you got locked out. 458 00:20:43,576 --> 00:20:46,702 Moolah had a roommate named dia, 459 00:20:46,746 --> 00:20:51,749 and we all called her katie. An. 460 00:20:51,793 --> 00:20:54,585 My name is diamond lil, 461 00:20:54,629 --> 00:20:57,755 and buddy lee named me diamond . 462 00:20:57,799 --> 00:20:59,590 Katie come from a hard backgrou, 463 00:20:59,625 --> 00:21:01,550 and she was a wrestler, and shed 464 00:21:01,594 --> 00:21:04,011 in the house with moo, and she . 465 00:21:04,055 --> 00:21:06,639 And she's been right there withr 466 00:21:06,683 --> 00:21:09,433 through thick and thin. 467 00:21:09,477 --> 00:21:14,647 Katie liked to drink beer, but . 468 00:21:14,691 --> 00:21:16,315 Katie used to come out to the p, 469 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,068 then I come in there and drop a, 470 00:21:19,112 --> 00:21:21,862 and her and I'd sit there and d) 471 00:21:21,906 --> 00:21:24,865 I was famous for getting the be) 472 00:21:24,909 --> 00:21:27,159 ♪ 473 00:21:27,203 --> 00:21:28,619 they had apartments. 474 00:21:28,654 --> 00:21:32,707 And she would put 2 or 3 girls , 475 00:21:32,750 --> 00:21:35,459 and they would come down to the. 476 00:21:35,503 --> 00:21:40,715 What I remember the most about s 477 00:21:40,758 --> 00:21:44,468 was learning to drop kick. 478 00:21:44,595 --> 00:21:46,887 I would go out there and drop k, 479 00:21:46,931 --> 00:21:50,891 and drop kick, and drop kick, a. 480 00:21:50,935 --> 00:21:53,185 The mat wasn't soft. It was all, 481 00:21:53,229 --> 00:21:57,273 and by that time, a lot of it w. 482 00:21:57,317 --> 00:22:00,776 There were buckets strategicall. 483 00:22:00,820 --> 00:22:03,321 And it wasn't if you were gonna, 484 00:22:03,364 --> 00:22:04,947 it was when you were gonna throd 485 00:22:04,991 --> 00:22:07,825 would you hit the bucket? 486 00:22:07,869 --> 00:22:10,786 The one thing that moolah taugh, 487 00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:12,872 take a bite and growl. 488 00:22:12,915 --> 00:22:15,541 ♪ 489 00:22:15,585 --> 00:22:16,959 moolah, she never trained me. 490 00:22:17,003 --> 00:22:23,883 She just took the money and she. 491 00:22:23,926 --> 00:22:25,926 She wanted her $300. 492 00:22:25,970 --> 00:22:29,930 Now, can you imagine, 4 girls I, 493 00:22:29,974 --> 00:22:36,145 she's getting $1200 a month? In! 494 00:22:36,189 --> 00:22:38,230 And on top of that, she's takinf 495 00:22:38,274 --> 00:22:42,318 what she's telling us we're pai. 496 00:22:42,362 --> 00:22:44,779 Bull puggy. 497 00:22:44,822 --> 00:22:46,405 I'm sitting here 24 hours a day, 498 00:22:46,449 --> 00:22:49,742 making your connections with th. 499 00:22:49,786 --> 00:22:52,495 All you got to do is sit your lr 500 00:22:52,538 --> 00:22:54,622 and go to wrestle, and collect d 501 00:22:54,665 --> 00:22:58,626 send me 25%. And I thought that. 502 00:22:58,669 --> 00:23:00,252 That was fair. 503 00:23:00,296 --> 00:23:02,863 ♪ 504 00:23:02,865 --> 00:23:06,884 there's a picture of me in thist 505 00:23:06,928 --> 00:23:10,554 moolah presented to me at chrisf 506 00:23:10,598 --> 00:23:13,599 all the girls, after she had gim 507 00:23:13,643 --> 00:23:16,977 a 5, or $10 gift. 508 00:23:17,021 --> 00:23:19,188 That was no cheap outfit. That . 509 00:23:19,232 --> 00:23:23,275 That was a 2 to $300 outfit. Shn 510 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:25,111 privately and give me this outf, 511 00:23:25,154 --> 00:23:26,487 she had to do it in front of th. 512 00:23:26,531 --> 00:23:31,492 That was another one of her lit. 513 00:23:31,536 --> 00:23:34,495 Everything brings back memories, 514 00:23:34,539 --> 00:23:38,332 and it's like the flood gates g. 515 00:23:38,376 --> 00:23:41,085 I was in a match. 516 00:23:41,129 --> 00:23:43,587 I know it was the first or seco. 517 00:23:43,631 --> 00:23:45,673 - (dogs barking) - a girl... 518 00:23:45,716 --> 00:23:51,053 Shut up! 519 00:23:51,097 --> 00:23:55,891 (sighs) um... 520 00:23:55,926 --> 00:23:59,437 The night I broke my neck in th. 521 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:05,401 A girl stumbled and she sat on . 522 00:24:05,445 --> 00:24:07,945 That was the day my world fell . 523 00:24:07,989 --> 00:24:10,656 ♪ 524 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:12,450 it hurt so bad I couldn't stand. 525 00:24:12,493 --> 00:24:15,786 I remember a moment at the hosp, 526 00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:18,414 they had my neck braced. 527 00:24:18,458 --> 00:24:20,624 I remember being on a cot. 528 00:24:20,668 --> 00:24:24,044 Then the next thing I remember, 529 00:24:24,088 --> 00:24:27,298 I don't know how, but I'm back y 530 00:24:27,341 --> 00:24:28,841 and moolah's walking me out to . 531 00:24:28,885 --> 00:24:30,468 She said, "I want to see if you" 532 00:24:30,511 --> 00:24:32,928 I took a bump and I cried. 533 00:24:32,972 --> 00:24:35,264 Every time I took a bump, 534 00:24:35,308 --> 00:24:38,851 I felt like something was explo. 535 00:24:38,895 --> 00:24:41,169 This went on for a month, two m. 536 00:24:41,171 --> 00:24:44,315 Moo comes to me one day, she sa, 537 00:24:44,358 --> 00:24:46,525 "hon, if you go see this guy in, 538 00:24:46,569 --> 00:24:48,944 he'll give you pay day." 539 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:51,489 I thought to myself, I can't wr. 540 00:24:51,532 --> 00:24:52,823 I get on the phone with this gud 541 00:24:52,867 --> 00:24:59,872 I make it explicitly clear: It'. 542 00:24:59,916 --> 00:25:02,500 (sighs) the conversation after , 543 00:25:02,535 --> 00:25:04,126 with moo was, "you know, hon, 544 00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:09,256 the nicer you are to him, the b, 545 00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:11,926 and you could really use a pay " 546 00:25:11,969 --> 00:25:13,210 producer: And so, was moolah so, 547 00:25:13,221 --> 00:25:15,179 like, the idea that...? 548 00:25:15,214 --> 00:25:17,973 When moolah looked at me and sa, 549 00:25:18,017 --> 00:25:21,644 "you know the nicer you are to , 550 00:25:21,687 --> 00:25:25,005 the nicer he'll be to you." 551 00:25:25,007 --> 00:25:27,691 what else can I say? 552 00:25:27,735 --> 00:25:29,109 When this guy first picked me u, 553 00:25:29,153 --> 00:25:33,197 I said, "damn, this guy didn't , 554 00:25:33,241 --> 00:25:34,431 he got beat by the whole damn f" 555 00:25:34,433 --> 00:25:36,116 ♪ (suspenseful) ♪ 556 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,828 I wake up the next morning, I cd 557 00:25:39,872 --> 00:25:42,540 I grab his hand and I'm holding. 558 00:25:42,583 --> 00:25:48,504 I said, "dude, I will break you" 559 00:25:48,548 --> 00:25:53,634 and she was fire engine red pis. 560 00:25:53,678 --> 00:25:56,220 "I can't believe she didn't sle" 561 00:25:56,264 --> 00:25:58,973 well, not a week after I got bae 562 00:25:59,058 --> 00:26:02,351 and said, "look, you can't wres. 563 00:26:02,395 --> 00:26:05,145 I'll take that yellow outfit, I" 564 00:26:05,189 --> 00:26:09,775 that she gave me for christmas.Y 565 00:26:09,819 --> 00:26:12,194 with my chevy malibu station wad 566 00:26:12,238 --> 00:26:14,655 20 bucks in my pocket. 567 00:26:14,699 --> 00:26:17,366 She dumped me and I never wrest. 568 00:26:17,410 --> 00:26:19,410 ♪ 569 00:26:19,453 --> 00:26:22,997 when I walked away 30 years ago, 570 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,209 my heart was broke. (sighs) 571 00:26:27,253 --> 00:26:30,754 I can't even explain it. I miss. 572 00:26:30,798 --> 00:26:33,799 I missed my friends, I missed m. 573 00:26:33,843 --> 00:26:38,554 And when I left, do you know wh? 574 00:26:38,598 --> 00:26:41,432 She told them I was in prison f. 575 00:26:41,475 --> 00:26:43,976 For god sakes, she couldn't tel, 576 00:26:44,020 --> 00:26:49,189 and I was of no use to her anymo 577 00:26:49,233 --> 00:26:50,649 'cause then they knew their fat. 578 00:26:50,693 --> 00:26:55,988 ♪ 579 00:26:56,032 --> 00:26:59,325 I love wrestling. 580 00:26:59,368 --> 00:27:01,869 To protect this business, to me, 581 00:27:01,912 --> 00:27:04,204 is like protecting the country. 582 00:27:04,248 --> 00:27:09,293 If wrestling needed me, I'd do . 583 00:27:09,337 --> 00:27:12,296 All someone has to do is ask. 584 00:27:12,340 --> 00:27:14,590 Moolah! 585 00:27:14,634 --> 00:27:17,885 As wrestling gained popularity , 586 00:27:17,928 --> 00:27:20,387 the wwf looked to replenish itsr 587 00:27:20,431 --> 00:27:22,306 with younger wrestlers. 588 00:27:22,350 --> 00:27:24,516 Moolah's protégé, wendi richter, 589 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,143 was an obvious choice. 590 00:27:26,187 --> 00:27:28,771 ♪ 591 00:27:28,814 --> 00:27:32,524 wendi richter, hell of a person. 592 00:27:32,568 --> 00:27:35,361 Hell of a lady. 593 00:27:35,404 --> 00:27:39,406 She loved her business. She hon. 594 00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:43,535 She worked very hard to become . 595 00:27:43,579 --> 00:27:45,162 Do you have an assumption as tos 596 00:27:45,206 --> 00:27:47,081 so much friction between you an? 597 00:27:47,124 --> 00:27:50,959 The only thing I can think of wn 598 00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:52,836 is possibly she was jealous of e 599 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,255 I was younger than her. 600 00:27:55,299 --> 00:27:57,424 And, like my father said, they e 601 00:27:57,468 --> 00:28:01,428 on a can of dog food to sell it. 602 00:28:01,472 --> 00:28:04,640 Wendi richter began to eclipse , 603 00:28:04,684 --> 00:28:08,143 and she left moolah's stable to. 604 00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:11,188 When I left moolah's, I had a cn 605 00:28:11,232 --> 00:28:13,565 with vince mcmahon and told himt 606 00:28:13,609 --> 00:28:15,526 I didn't want to live there anyd 607 00:28:15,569 --> 00:28:19,405 I did not want my check going t. 608 00:28:19,448 --> 00:28:25,327 I wanted the check to come to m. 609 00:28:25,371 --> 00:28:28,122 As soon as vince took over from, 610 00:28:28,165 --> 00:28:29,498 he started making changes. 611 00:28:29,542 --> 00:28:33,711 One advantage that he had was ts 612 00:28:33,754 --> 00:28:38,132 had grown up in the new york ar, 613 00:28:38,175 --> 00:28:39,675 and one of those was cyndi laup. 614 00:28:39,719 --> 00:28:42,511 ♪ 615 00:28:42,555 --> 00:28:44,680 ♪ girls, they wanna have fun ♪ 616 00:28:44,807 --> 00:28:50,310 cyndi lauper was on an airplane. 617 00:28:50,354 --> 00:28:53,188 And then, lou albano tells evert 618 00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:54,773 he was managing cyndi lauper. ) 619 00:28:54,817 --> 00:28:58,310 I created and made cyndi lauper. 620 00:28:58,345 --> 00:29:00,362 Took her from a nothing. 621 00:29:00,406 --> 00:29:02,656 I don't know if anybody knows id 622 00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,868 "girls just want to have fun," . 623 00:29:05,911 --> 00:29:07,077 That's how all of this came tog. 624 00:29:07,121 --> 00:29:10,497 It all boiled down to that lou , 625 00:29:10,541 --> 00:29:14,960 "I'm going to choose someone to" 626 00:29:15,004 --> 00:29:17,671 so lou albano chose fabulous mo. 627 00:29:17,715 --> 00:29:19,381 Whoo, I'm happy! 628 00:29:19,425 --> 00:29:22,050 And cyndi lauper chose me. 629 00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:23,469 Moolah may have the world's cha, 630 00:29:23,512 --> 00:29:26,638 but she also has lou albano on . 631 00:29:26,682 --> 00:29:28,891 Oh, lou. (laughs) 632 00:29:28,934 --> 00:29:31,643 as soon as cyndi lauper got inv, 633 00:29:31,687 --> 00:29:35,063 vince mcmahon saw gold and fostn 634 00:29:35,107 --> 00:29:37,140 into the rock 'n' wrestling con. 635 00:29:37,151 --> 00:29:39,860 - Happy new year! - At mtv! 636 00:29:39,904 --> 00:29:41,320 The wrestlers giving their hand. 637 00:29:41,363 --> 00:29:43,947 They have been involved with ro. 638 00:29:43,991 --> 00:29:49,495 It brought the dated look of wr. 639 00:29:49,538 --> 00:29:52,122 Wendi richter morphed from the , 640 00:29:52,166 --> 00:29:54,750 wendi richter, a little bit mor, 641 00:29:54,794 --> 00:29:57,586 little more rock 'n' roll, and e 642 00:29:57,630 --> 00:30:00,005 mtv movement there in 1984 thath 643 00:30:00,049 --> 00:30:02,090 paved the way for the first wre. 644 00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:04,134 They were giving girls more of n 645 00:30:04,178 --> 00:30:06,303 they probably ever had before. 646 00:30:06,347 --> 00:30:08,514 They were really trying to esca, 647 00:30:08,557 --> 00:30:12,309 trying to get equal to the men. 648 00:30:12,353 --> 00:30:14,478 It was the turning point for wo. 649 00:30:14,522 --> 00:30:16,188 Vince wanted to make wendi richt 650 00:30:16,232 --> 00:30:19,608 as hulk hogan would be so he had 651 00:30:19,652 --> 00:30:20,818 a female role model. 652 00:30:20,861 --> 00:30:22,945 Since the most widely recognizen 653 00:30:22,988 --> 00:30:26,698 of the previous 30 years had be, 654 00:30:26,742 --> 00:30:28,659 wendi needed to beat moolah for. 655 00:30:28,702 --> 00:30:30,327 Well, with that in mind, ladies, 656 00:30:30,371 --> 00:30:33,080 we'd like to introduce to you tr 657 00:30:33,123 --> 00:30:36,083 for the ladies championship, mi. 658 00:30:36,126 --> 00:30:38,585 And the rest is history. 659 00:30:38,629 --> 00:30:41,296 Ladies and gentlemen, this title 660 00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:43,590 at madison square garden just m, 661 00:30:43,634 --> 00:30:45,133 this lady to defend. 662 00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:49,221 Their rivalry was about to exple 663 00:30:49,265 --> 00:30:52,558 one of the most watched matches. 664 00:30:52,685 --> 00:30:54,893 That was probably the most nervs 665 00:30:54,937 --> 00:30:59,857 I've ever been in my life. I kn. 666 00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:04,194 There was so much at stake and . 667 00:31:04,238 --> 00:31:07,406 It was the culmination of my wh. 668 00:31:07,449 --> 00:31:09,908 Moolah had been very jealous anf 669 00:31:09,952 --> 00:31:11,285 that championship for a long ti, 670 00:31:11,412 --> 00:31:14,037 but vince was able to write thef 671 00:31:14,081 --> 00:31:18,125 money on a check and, that chan. 672 00:31:18,168 --> 00:31:20,919 And also, by doing that, 673 00:31:20,963 --> 00:31:24,581 moolah got vince mcmahon jr's l. 674 00:31:24,592 --> 00:31:28,302 - 1, 2... - (match bell) 675 00:31:28,345 --> 00:31:31,805 that's when everything changed. 676 00:31:31,849 --> 00:31:37,686 The winner of this title and ne! 677 00:31:37,730 --> 00:31:40,981 Wendi richter! 678 00:31:41,025 --> 00:31:42,733 - (cheering) - oh my word! 679 00:31:42,776 --> 00:31:48,322 When I won the championship, it. 680 00:31:48,365 --> 00:31:53,243 Everyone was up on their feet a. 681 00:31:53,287 --> 00:31:56,204 I can't believe someone beat he, 682 00:31:56,248 --> 00:31:58,999 and that someone was me. 683 00:31:59,043 --> 00:31:59,917 It was a big deal for the fans d 684 00:31:59,952 --> 00:32:02,044 to see wendi win, right. 685 00:32:02,087 --> 00:32:04,379 But it was a bigger deal insidee 686 00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:06,798 two generations of wrestlers hae 687 00:32:06,842 --> 00:32:08,967 without ever seeing the fabulou. 688 00:32:09,011 --> 00:32:12,763 It was shocking to the folks inw 689 00:32:12,806 --> 00:32:15,474 about the stranglehold that moo. 690 00:32:15,517 --> 00:32:17,768 Right here is the new champ, 691 00:32:17,811 --> 00:32:19,603 the terrific symbol of the new . 692 00:32:19,647 --> 00:32:23,148 My match against moolah for thes 693 00:32:23,192 --> 00:32:25,692 kind of ground zero for women's. 694 00:32:25,736 --> 00:32:28,570 And, it moved towards a differel 695 00:32:28,614 --> 00:32:31,114 of women's wrestling. 696 00:32:31,158 --> 00:32:33,909 See, what a lot of people don't, 697 00:32:33,953 --> 00:32:35,953 once you step in that ring... 698 00:32:35,996 --> 00:32:38,872 You're addicted. 699 00:32:38,916 --> 00:32:43,085 I think moolah let her ego get . 700 00:32:43,128 --> 00:32:46,213 And, moolah couldn't quit. 701 00:32:46,256 --> 00:32:52,010 ♪ 702 00:32:52,054 --> 00:32:53,553 wendi, show 'em what you got! 703 00:32:53,597 --> 00:32:58,058 (laughs) cyndi lauper! 704 00:32:58,102 --> 00:33:01,678 Oh my-- we were on the top of a. 705 00:33:01,689 --> 00:33:03,772 I remember: I was hot, I was hu, 706 00:33:03,816 --> 00:33:09,820 I was thirsty, and it felt like. 707 00:33:09,863 --> 00:33:12,555 When I went to visit my father r 708 00:33:12,557 --> 00:33:16,576 in kokomo, indiana, people reco. 709 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:19,246 I'm thinking, they know me in k. 710 00:33:19,289 --> 00:33:20,622 Even though wendi was a househo, 711 00:33:20,666 --> 00:33:23,834 wendi wasn't getting paid like . 712 00:33:23,877 --> 00:33:25,919 (cheering) 713 00:33:25,963 --> 00:33:27,254 I found out, early in my career, 714 00:33:27,297 --> 00:33:31,216 that the men were being paid fa. 715 00:33:31,260 --> 00:33:34,177 But, if I'm the only one saying, 716 00:33:34,221 --> 00:33:37,055 one person can be replaced. 717 00:33:37,099 --> 00:33:40,475 Vince mcmahon, he had been push, 718 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:42,352 gonna make her a superstar, sheg 719 00:33:42,387 --> 00:33:44,271 too big for her britches. 720 00:33:44,314 --> 00:33:46,940 He decided that she needed to l, 721 00:33:46,984 --> 00:33:49,026 and who's gonna beat her for th? 722 00:33:49,061 --> 00:33:51,194 I was on the road constantly, 723 00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:54,072 but it was always matches again. 724 00:33:54,116 --> 00:33:57,325 Over and over. 725 00:33:57,369 --> 00:33:59,870 I'll never forget, one time, sh- 726 00:33:59,913 --> 00:34:04,124 the boston crab - with that, yok 727 00:34:04,168 --> 00:34:05,709 'cause you can break someone's . 728 00:34:05,753 --> 00:34:07,169 Well, she did. 729 00:34:07,212 --> 00:34:13,050 She tried to break my back. She. 730 00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:15,844 My spine snapped like firecrack. 731 00:34:15,888 --> 00:34:18,013 She was just so bitter. 732 00:34:18,057 --> 00:34:20,682 I really believe in the golden , 733 00:34:20,726 --> 00:34:22,100 treat others as you'd like to b, 734 00:34:22,144 --> 00:34:25,896 but sometimes you gotta treat f. 735 00:34:25,939 --> 00:34:27,898 And in the ring, when that bell, 736 00:34:27,941 --> 00:34:30,275 you had no friends. 737 00:34:30,319 --> 00:34:34,404 When I was to wrestle the spidea 738 00:34:34,448 --> 00:34:39,159 championship match, it changed . 739 00:34:39,203 --> 00:34:40,911 It changed my life. 740 00:34:40,954 --> 00:34:42,579 ♪ 741 00:34:42,623 --> 00:34:44,706 I really didn't think anything . 742 00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:48,451 I thought, well, it's just anot, 743 00:34:48,462 --> 00:34:51,963 and it's against the spider lad. 744 00:34:52,007 --> 00:34:53,840 Wendi said that moolah had show. 745 00:34:53,884 --> 00:34:57,127 ♪ 746 00:34:57,137 --> 00:34:58,970 she didn't understand why moola. 747 00:34:59,014 --> 00:35:02,557 I'd wrestled the spider lady bed 748 00:35:02,601 --> 00:35:06,853 I didn't recall her being that . 749 00:35:06,897 --> 00:35:09,189 A very determined young lady. 750 00:35:09,233 --> 00:35:10,941 Gonna take one heck of a wrestlo 751 00:35:10,984 --> 00:35:13,068 strip that title from her. 752 00:35:13,112 --> 00:35:15,195 The match really didn't go that. 753 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,449 ♪ 754 00:35:19,493 --> 00:35:23,161 it was just a wrestling hold. 755 00:35:23,205 --> 00:35:25,705 Spider going-- oh, small packag! 756 00:35:25,749 --> 00:35:28,708 The referee counted, "1," I kic, 757 00:35:28,752 --> 00:35:30,836 had my shoulder up. 758 00:35:30,879 --> 00:35:32,087 (claps) "2, 3." 759 00:35:32,131 --> 00:35:34,965 ♪ 760 00:35:35,008 --> 00:35:38,051 - and that was it. - (match bel) 761 00:35:38,095 --> 00:35:39,928 what was that? 762 00:35:39,972 --> 00:35:43,431 It appears that the referee has. 763 00:35:43,475 --> 00:35:46,810 - (match bell) - the match was . 764 00:35:46,854 --> 00:35:50,313 Then, the masked person... 765 00:35:50,357 --> 00:35:53,817 Took their mask off... 766 00:35:53,861 --> 00:35:56,319 And it was moolah. 767 00:35:56,363 --> 00:35:59,656 - It is moolah! - (cheering) 768 00:35:59,783 --> 00:36:01,741 it is moolah! Take a look, kids! 769 00:36:01,785 --> 00:36:04,494 Fabulous moolah, the oldest, sad 770 00:36:04,538 --> 00:36:06,788 that knows all the tricks, she e 771 00:36:06,832 --> 00:36:08,198 that was chosen because it was t 772 00:36:08,208 --> 00:36:10,625 if things did break down, 773 00:36:10,669 --> 00:36:12,711 that she could handle wendi leg. 774 00:36:12,754 --> 00:36:15,922 Did you have any idea that, tha. 775 00:36:15,966 --> 00:36:16,798 - Mm-mm. - ...In the match, at ? 776 00:36:16,842 --> 00:36:20,177 No. I couldn't tell who it was. 777 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:23,246 (crowd chanting) moolah! Moolah! 778 00:36:23,248 --> 00:36:24,973 It was obvious who was under th. 779 00:36:25,017 --> 00:36:28,602 Everybody in the arena knew who. 780 00:36:28,645 --> 00:36:31,021 Wendi knew. 781 00:36:31,064 --> 00:36:32,772 This double-cross blurred the ln 782 00:36:32,816 --> 00:36:35,400 business and story line. 783 00:36:35,444 --> 00:36:39,529 Whatever the truth was, wendi c. 784 00:36:39,573 --> 00:36:41,430 I demanded to talk to vince mcm, 785 00:36:41,432 --> 00:36:45,452 and no one would tell me where . 786 00:36:45,495 --> 00:36:48,580 I probably would have killed hi. 787 00:36:48,624 --> 00:36:51,833 What vinny and moo did to her, 788 00:36:51,877 --> 00:36:55,003 wendi was over like $1 million . 789 00:36:55,047 --> 00:37:01,092 Her and cyndi lauper, and the c. 790 00:37:01,136 --> 00:37:03,053 You know, wendi was over as big, 791 00:37:03,096 --> 00:37:04,804 and maybe that was the problem. 792 00:37:04,848 --> 00:37:12,103 The only thing I can think of I. 793 00:37:12,147 --> 00:37:17,400 I feel like it was a sad situate 794 00:37:17,444 --> 00:37:18,985 the girls should be paid maybe n 795 00:37:19,029 --> 00:37:20,362 they were at the time. 796 00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:25,408 But, when a promoter tells you , 797 00:37:25,452 --> 00:37:28,745 you have to go with the one who, 798 00:37:28,789 --> 00:37:30,538 whether you like it or not; thae 799 00:37:30,582 --> 00:37:33,458 to walk away from it. 800 00:37:33,502 --> 00:37:35,919 If everything had worked with w, 801 00:37:35,963 --> 00:37:38,713 there would've been an establisn 802 00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:42,801 with women featured in more imps 803 00:37:42,844 --> 00:37:44,386 a lot before it actually happen. 804 00:37:44,429 --> 00:37:49,307 I was angry for what she just d. 805 00:37:49,351 --> 00:37:52,477 For so long she held it back, s, 806 00:37:52,521 --> 00:37:54,813 she held it back. Then, finally, 807 00:37:54,856 --> 00:37:58,608 it started to bloom and she kil. 808 00:37:58,643 --> 00:38:01,152 I think moolah was afraid. 809 00:38:01,196 --> 00:38:05,115 I think she was afraid of walki. 810 00:38:05,158 --> 00:38:09,411 I left the arena fully dressed , 811 00:38:09,454 --> 00:38:11,496 I hailed a cab in new york city, 812 00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:14,082 and went to the airport. 813 00:38:14,126 --> 00:38:17,252 They were dead in my life. They. 814 00:38:17,296 --> 00:38:22,332 ♪ 815 00:38:22,342 --> 00:38:25,218 have you ever seen the footage ? 816 00:38:25,262 --> 00:38:29,347 (sighs) I almost did. I couldn'. 817 00:38:29,391 --> 00:38:31,975 What good would it do? The bitc! 818 00:38:32,019 --> 00:38:34,519 I don't need to see it. (laughs. 819 00:38:34,563 --> 00:38:42,902 ♪ 820 00:38:42,946 --> 00:38:46,072 in 1995, the fabulous moolah ben 821 00:38:46,116 --> 00:38:51,202 inducted into the wwf wrestling. 822 00:38:51,246 --> 00:38:55,290 Tonight is the greatest night o, 823 00:38:55,334 --> 00:38:59,377 being inducted into the wwf hal. 824 00:38:59,421 --> 00:39:01,254 By the year 2000, the wwf 825 00:39:01,298 --> 00:39:05,717 had phased out traditional wome, 826 00:39:05,761 --> 00:39:09,387 in favor of strip matches and c. 827 00:39:09,431 --> 00:39:11,473 But moolah showed no sign of sl. 828 00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:15,769 She teamed up with fellow wrest. 829 00:39:15,812 --> 00:39:18,188 Mae young wrestled in 7 differe. 830 00:39:18,231 --> 00:39:21,399 She was tougher than moolah, an. 831 00:39:21,443 --> 00:39:26,071 Years ago, they, they had to pup 832 00:39:26,114 --> 00:39:29,532 over the ring because they hate. 833 00:39:29,576 --> 00:39:31,993 It's insane that more people sae 834 00:39:32,037 --> 00:39:34,746 in the late 90s and early 2000s 835 00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:36,247 when they were both everybody's. 836 00:39:36,291 --> 00:39:38,858 Or, maybe the addams family's g. 837 00:39:38,860 --> 00:39:40,168 I have to be real careful with . 838 00:39:40,212 --> 00:39:43,963 Everywhere I go, she either wan. 839 00:39:44,007 --> 00:39:44,881 This would be the place, I gues. 840 00:39:44,925 --> 00:39:46,157 (laughs) 841 00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:47,467 and then, of course, they go oud 842 00:39:47,511 --> 00:39:52,013 they can take the tremendous bu, 843 00:39:52,057 --> 00:39:54,182 and still somehow not break int. 844 00:39:54,226 --> 00:39:56,518 Ah! Come on! 845 00:39:56,561 --> 00:40:00,605 She should've stopped in her 60. 846 00:40:00,649 --> 00:40:02,690 I mean, my god, she was 80 year, 847 00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:06,986 wearing a checkered school girl. 848 00:40:07,021 --> 00:40:09,030 - (dog growling) - no, no, stop. 849 00:40:09,074 --> 00:40:11,199 - Stop. Scooter, stop it. - (ba) 850 00:40:11,243 --> 00:40:15,495 stop. Sh. 851 00:40:15,539 --> 00:40:17,914 I get the last word, not you. B. 852 00:40:22,337 --> 00:40:23,694 What was her funeral like? 853 00:40:23,696 --> 00:40:27,215 It was crowded and I don't-- I', 854 00:40:27,259 --> 00:40:29,509 I don't know. I was just in a d. 855 00:40:29,553 --> 00:40:32,220 I didn't even know that he was . 856 00:40:32,264 --> 00:40:37,600 I just remember thinking that I. 857 00:40:37,644 --> 00:40:41,813 In 2007, moolah passed away at . 858 00:40:41,857 --> 00:40:45,024 The wrestling families showed us 859 00:40:45,068 --> 00:40:47,485 to pay their respects. 860 00:40:47,529 --> 00:40:51,698 This is where she's buried. Thi. 861 00:40:51,741 --> 00:40:54,075 And this is katie's and this wa. 862 00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:56,369 She had that little thing put t. 863 00:40:56,413 --> 00:40:57,487 She said, "when you wanna come , 864 00:40:57,497 --> 00:40:59,247 there's a bench in there. 865 00:40:59,291 --> 00:41:02,292 You won't get wet if it's raini" 866 00:41:02,335 --> 00:41:06,454 (sighs) she was all I had. 867 00:41:06,489 --> 00:41:09,132 And, I miss her every day. 868 00:41:09,176 --> 00:41:11,843 No one can ever, can ever 869 00:41:11,887 --> 00:41:16,598 be as good as she was. Never. 870 00:41:16,641 --> 00:41:18,558 Women's wrestling today has unde 871 00:41:18,602 --> 00:41:21,686 I don't think would have been pf 872 00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:25,148 women in mixed martial arts, an. 873 00:41:25,192 --> 00:41:28,234 Now it's so much more refined. 874 00:41:28,278 --> 00:41:30,945 It wasn't that way in moolah's e 875 00:41:30,989 --> 00:41:34,190 that wasn't her strong point. 876 00:41:34,201 --> 00:41:36,534 10 years after moolah's death, 877 00:41:36,578 --> 00:41:39,037 her impact on wrestling remains. 878 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,040 ♪ 879 00:41:42,083 --> 00:41:45,168 well, I think in wrestling thers 880 00:41:45,203 --> 00:41:47,337 between your character and who . 881 00:41:47,380 --> 00:41:51,424 I believe that the fans couldn'e 882 00:41:51,468 --> 00:41:55,512 between moolah and the characte. 883 00:41:55,555 --> 00:42:00,934 Nobody really knows how it hurt, 884 00:42:00,977 --> 00:42:03,019 that you worked for somebody an, 885 00:42:03,063 --> 00:42:05,104 so you could get where you did. 886 00:42:05,148 --> 00:42:09,150 She was-- had never once ever d. 887 00:42:09,194 --> 00:42:13,196 It just really pisses me off thy 888 00:42:13,231 --> 00:42:17,325 the legacy of the fabulous mool. 889 00:42:17,369 --> 00:42:18,826 I mean, I'll be honest with you, 890 00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:22,914 bambi was never a famous wrestl. 891 00:42:22,958 --> 00:42:25,667 If there's one thing that I cou, 892 00:42:25,710 --> 00:42:27,877 it would be to save moolah's na, 893 00:42:27,912 --> 00:42:30,547 and restore what she gave 894 00:42:30,590 --> 00:42:32,382 to the professional wrestling b. 895 00:42:32,425 --> 00:42:36,535 Moolah may have initially opene, 896 00:42:36,537 --> 00:42:39,138 but she quickly closed the door. 897 00:42:39,182 --> 00:42:44,686 She held women's wrestling back. 898 00:42:44,729 --> 00:42:48,598 If moolah had left wendi with t, 899 00:42:48,692 --> 00:42:52,860 I think women's wrestling would. 900 00:42:52,904 --> 00:42:55,446 She wasn't as big a star as mil. 901 00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:56,948 She's not as big a star as rond, 902 00:42:56,992 --> 00:42:59,826 but she was the placeholder for. 903 00:42:59,869 --> 00:43:01,077 How do you think people should, 904 00:43:01,121 --> 00:43:03,705 should remember moolah? 905 00:43:03,748 --> 00:43:05,164 Any way they like. 906 00:43:05,208 --> 00:43:06,833 Everybody have their own opinio. 907 00:43:06,876 --> 00:43:12,130 And me, personally, I don't hav. 908 00:43:12,173 --> 00:43:14,882 None that I care to share. 909 00:43:14,926 --> 00:43:18,619 If I choose not to like her 910 00:43:18,621 --> 00:43:20,638 because of what she did to me, . 911 00:43:20,682 --> 00:43:23,057 But, moolah needs to be remembe. 912 00:43:23,101 --> 00:43:25,643 She was an icon in this busines. 913 00:43:25,687 --> 00:43:28,688 You can't take away her historye 914 00:43:28,732 --> 00:43:31,149 she's an asshole! 915 00:43:31,192 --> 00:43:32,567 All the girls that she trained , 916 00:43:32,611 --> 00:43:36,863 and they know that they wouldn'w 917 00:43:36,906 --> 00:43:37,905 without her, and they wouldn't e 918 00:43:37,949 --> 00:43:40,867 career they had, without her. 919 00:43:40,910 --> 00:43:43,870 Whoever's starting these rumors, 920 00:43:43,913 --> 00:43:46,122 you're not just calling moolah , 921 00:43:46,166 --> 00:43:48,833 you're calling me a prostitute.. 922 00:43:48,877 --> 00:43:51,878 And that hurts. 923 00:43:51,921 --> 00:43:54,297 And, if you were not on that pr, 924 00:43:54,341 --> 00:43:56,758 if you were not in that room, 925 00:43:56,801 --> 00:44:04,973 you don't know what happened an. 59687

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