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Okay, you want to just lay this down?
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Ready when you are. I'm ready.
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Are you recording?
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I am now.
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This just might do nobody any good.
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At the end of this discourse, a few
people may accuse this reporter of
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his own comfortable nest.
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And you all may be accused of giving
hospitality to heretical and even
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thoughts.
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It is my desire, if not my duty, to try
to speak to you with some candor about
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what is happening in our mass media.
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You should know at the outset that I
appear here voluntarily, by invitation,
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that these remarks are strictly of a do
-it -yourself nature.
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If what I have to say is responsible, I
alone am responsible for the saying of
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it.
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I've decided to express my concern on
the manner in which we inform ourselves.
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I am seized by an abiding fear of what
these instruments are doing to our
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society, our culture, our heritage.
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Our history will be what we make of it.
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And if any historians 50 to 100 years
from now were to look, they would in
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find evidence of decadent escapism and
insulation from the realities of the
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world in which we live.
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And surely we will pay a price.
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We are currently fat, comfortable, and
complacent. We have a built -in allergy
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to unpleasant...
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or disturbing information, but unless we
get up off our fat assets and recognize
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that media in the main is being used to
distract, delude, amuse
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and insulate us, then those who finance
it, those who profit from it, those
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who work at it and those who consume it
may see a totally different picture too
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late.
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Good evening.
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Earlier tonight, Adlai E. Stevenson
urged the United States to take the
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initiative in peace talks with the
Soviet Union.
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The talks are aimed toward worldwide
disarmament and assurances of non
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-aggression for the Russians as well as
for the free world.
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In a broadcast from his globe -circling
tour, Stevenson warned the Eisenhower
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administration against shutting the door
on conferences with the Soviet leaders
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and putting too much pressure on an
uncommitted bloc of nations not linked
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without a deal.
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Wait,
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it's only two cans?
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Yeah, that's all it is. But there's some
notes with it that go for Fred. Oh,
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Fred's in with the guys.
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Okay, I'll give the film to Leo. You can
go ahead and give the notes to Fred.
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He's in the writer's room. Yeah.
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Thank you, Palmer.
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Hi,
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Joe. Shirley, what's going on in here?
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Hey, Palmer.
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Hello, Palmer.
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Making some copies.
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Just making sure.
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Two attractive people alone in a copy
room.
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Okay, Porter. I mean, I certainly won't
say anything. Well, don't tell Fred.
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He'll fire me. Well, I mean, both of us.
Shirley, the nepotism rule.
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The nepotism rule.
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You know, I think Joe would get the ax.
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Well,
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rules would make to be broken.
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You can afford to say that.
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Actually, Shirley, I think he's right.
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What do you say? You want to...
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drink tonight.
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Yeah, and you're just a couple of guys
trying to help. The day I need dating
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advice from you two knuckleheads is,
uh... All right.
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Let me see this.
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I don't know.
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It's simply a loyalty oath. I mean,
there's nothing in there about... To
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To America.
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You promise to be a loyal American? All
the reporters have it. Who are you
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promising? Fred signed it.
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CBS, Haley. And Murrow.
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Murrow signed it?
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Murrow signed it.
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Are you now, or have you ever been, a
member of these organizations that
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appeared on the Attorney General's list
of subversive groups? It's a lot of
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pressure.
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I don't know.
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All right, let's think about this. What
is it really saying? Is it a civil
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liberties issue? Is it censorship?
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I don't know.
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I mean, is it simply...
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stating to PBS that I'm not a communist?
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Murrow signed it. He and Fred.
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Maybe you should talk to Fred.
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Well, I talked to Fred. He told me to
sign it.
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If you don't sign it, are you and I a
target?
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If I don't sign it, they will fire me.
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Well, at least then we can tell everyone
the truth.
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Okay. All right.
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Hey, they got the film?
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Uh, yeah, it's all queued up and ready
to go. Oh, uh, Eddie, you're right.
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Went through that DP phone book.
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More than one Annie Lee Moss in there,
right? Oh, yeah, a lot more. See, I told
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you. All right, here they are. Hey, Joe,
we got it queued up. Hey, Fred, you
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want a cigarette?
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No, I'll just breathe the air.
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All right.
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Okay, sounds good.
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All right.
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Ready? All right.
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On this reel, this woman, Annie Lee
Moss.
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This is the person McCarthy has spent
two weeks claiming was a spy in the
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Pentagon. Well, she was a clerk in the
communications office.
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So, after all this buildup, she finally
comes in.
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McCarthy only asks her four questions,
and he gets up and he leaves.
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Wait, wait, wait. He just left?
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Well, he realized he had nothing. So,
uh, Leo, hit it.
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And, uh...
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You say you personally did not know
Robert Hall. No, sir. That you were not
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there when he came to the house. That's
right.
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Do you know what business Robert Hall
had with your husband besides merely
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delivering the copy of the Daily Work?
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No, sir, I do not.
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I'm afraid I'm going to have to excuse
myself. I've got a rather important...
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All right,
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look, and Charlie gets a shot of the
empty chair.
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Chairman, I have no further questions of
this witness at this time.
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They say that we have the testimony of
Mrs. Marquardt, the undercover agent of
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the FBI, stating that Annie Lee
Marquardt was a member, a dues -paying
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the Communist Party, the Northeast Party
of the Communist Party. Leo, that's
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enough. Turn it off.
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Oh, that Roy Cohn's a real charmer. Ed,
Ed, did you see that? He just walked
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out. She is not a spy. You don't know
that.
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Boy, I'll take the odds on it, Fred.
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What do you think, Ed?
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You haven't made your case.
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He's lying.
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What's your proof?
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I think it's pretty obvious.
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Is that our standard now, what you
think?
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McCarthy told the whole country. He
found the spy in the Pentagon, and it
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her. Meaning what?
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I mean, Ed, does she look like a spy to
you?
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What does a spy look like, Palmer?
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He got up and left his own hearing.
She's not a spy, and you have a story.
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then, you haven't made your case.
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File it.
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Okay, fellas, let's save it with the
rest of the Senate footage. Thanks.
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Fred, did you guys look at the Secretary
Stevens stuff? Not yet, John, not yet.
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Just watch it to the end. Well done.
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All the way to the end. Thank you, John.
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Pretty good stuff, Ed. It's been any
time in Detroit.
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We've got 20 or so of these pieces filed
here in the Detroit Free Press. Dexter,
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Michigan. Kid named Milo Radulovic.
Italian?
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Irish. Air Force kicked him out because
his dad read some Serbian newspaper.
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They called Milo a security risk.
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Is his dad a communist? I don't know.
Who brought the charges? The Air Force.
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The charges were in a sealed envelope.
Nobody saw them. Not even at the
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He was declared guilty without a trial
and told that if he wants to keep his
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job, he has to denounce his father and
his sister, so he told them to take a
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hike. His sister, huh?
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Let's send Joe and Charlie down there,
see if he's any good on camera.
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Is he being brought before the
committee?
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No. So?
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It's not McCarthy.
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Isn't it?
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Milo Radulovich.
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Lieutenant Radulovich, Milo, let me ask
you this. What happened
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now to your two children? That is, your
five -year -old and your five -month
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-old in terms of you.
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Yes, if I am being judged on my
relatives.
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Are my children going to be asked to
denounce me? Are they going to be judged
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on what their father was labeled?
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Are they going to have to explain to
their friends, etc., why their father
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security risk?
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I see absolutely that this is a chain
reaction.
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If the thing is let's stand as the first
recommendation,
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was sent out by the board, I see a chain
reaction that has no end to anybody,
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for anybody.
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Well, that's new.
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And I don't think you can call this a
neutral piece. I think we tried to talk
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the Air Force.
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So you just want to forego the standards
you've stuck to for over 15 years, both
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sides, no commentary.
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I'm just making sure we identify
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what it is you're both doing. I can't
find any justification for this. I can't
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accept that on every story there are two
equal and logical sides. You want to
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call that editorializing? We'll give
them equal time.
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It is editorializing, period.
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You understand the position you're
putting us in. We're all in it together.
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If the Senate or the Air Force ask her
to do me a favor, avoid any speeches
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about how we're all in a big boat
together.
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Please don't insult me. Look, I have to
go back to Alcoa, who sponsors your show
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and also has military contracts, and I
gotta tell them they might get caught in
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a tough bind because you had a beef with
Joe McCarthy.
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I'm not going at you. Joe McCartney.
Well, you're starting a goddamn fire. I
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know what this is, Ed. You guaranteed
me. This goes back to here and now. You
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guaranteed that corporate would have no
influence over news content. What I'm
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saying is, please don't try to con me
into thinking this will be good for me.
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Just do me that courtesy.
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I'm sorry, Mr.
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Paley, Mr. Murrow.
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Fred, there's a Colonel Anderson here to
see you.
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Okay, Shirley, where is he?
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He's in your office.
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Sorry, gentlemen.
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Maybe this guy loves the transcript and
is here to congratulate me.
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Go after Joe Kennedy.
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We'll pay for it.
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I got a great story about Hoover.
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Do you know how many person -to -persons
you'll have to do to make this up? Oh,
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Judy and her daughter Liza next week. No
chance. You will be interviewing Lassie
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and then Mr. Ed back -to -back.
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Alcoa won't pay for it.
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We probably won't either.
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Nobody will stop you. How much are the
ads?
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Three thousand.
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I'll split it with Fred.
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He just won't have Christmas presents
for his kid this year.
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He's a Jew.
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Well, don't tell Fred he loves
Christmas.
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Colonel.
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Mr. Friendly.
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Please.
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I trust you've had a chance to review
the transcript?
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We have, but we've not been allowed to
see the footage.
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We're still shooting it.
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Charlie Mack is on a plane from Dexter
with the last of the interviews. We'll
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going right down to the wire.
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Your show airs tomorrow.
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How can we possibly comment on what
we're being accused of? You haven't
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the footage.
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With all due respect, you have been
invited to comment on this piece, not to
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approve this piece.
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We are going with the story that says
that the U .S. Air Force tried Milo
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Radulovich without one shred of evidence
and found him guilty of being a
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security risk without the constitutional
right. And you have also not seen the
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evidence claim he's not.
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Wouldn't you guess that the people that
have seen the contents of that envelope
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might know a little more about what
makes a person a danger to our country?
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Who are these people?
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Are they elected? Should it just be you
that decides?
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Appointed? Do they have an ax to grind?
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Is it you, sir? Mr. Brindley.
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We have been a friend and ally of Mr.
Murrow and CBS News.
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The story you intend to air is without
merit.
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Now, before you take steps that cannot
be undone, I urge you
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to reconsider your stand.
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These are very dangerous waters you're
attempting to navigate.
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Two minutes to air.
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Dammit! Millie, unload that thing before
I crack.
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A couple more seconds.
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Okay.
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Is Don ready for this? I don't know.
Tell him I front -loaded the opening
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about five seconds extra.
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Front -loaded, five seconds. Thank you,
Millie. Oh, Millie, tell Joe he's going
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to have to do the voiceover live. Joe's
on set. You tell him.
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We need a live mic on the floor. I'll
get the mic set.
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Hi, Don. It's front -loaded. How am I?
About five seconds. I did it too much!
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Okay, which week is Joe going to do
live? His question. Why don't we try to
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it up with the whole show on air? Yeah,
Joe can do it live. I hate this. We love
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it. Fred, did you time Ed's intro? I
think we're going to be long. Long is
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Don. Remember, no commercial break.
Great.
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Great. I've got to add two minutes. Don,
they're doing a commercial in the
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booth. What commercial? We didn't have
any commercial.
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Okay, yeah. Eddie, set up a mic. I got
it, Don. I got it.
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Idiot out of the booth. That was...
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It's too loud in here. One minute.
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You got the film.
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Will it be ready?
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Yep.
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Funny thing, Freddy. Every time you
light a cigarette for me, I know you're
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lying.
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We'll have it. We'll have it.
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What did the colonel tell you yesterday?
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He wasn't too pleased.
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You're going to get audited this year.
Not me.
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You. I told him I didn't want to do the
piece.
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You always wear yellow.
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Better than red.
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Twenty seconds.
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You know, it occurs to me we might not
get away with this one.
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Ten seconds.
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In five, four, three, two... Stand
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by now.
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For See It Now, with Edward R. Murrow.
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Alcoa, Aluminum Company of America, in
cooperation with CBS Television,
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the distinguished reporter and news
analyst, Edward R. Murrow, in See It
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Edited and produced by Mr. Murrow and
Fred W. Friendly.
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A weekly presentation of Aluminum
Company of America, the nation's leading
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producer of aluminum.
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Now speaking to you from the control
room of Studio 41 is the editor of See
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Now, Edward R. Murrow.
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Good evening.
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A few weeks ago there appeared a few
obscure notices in the newspapers about
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Lieutenant Milo Radulovich.
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a lieutenant in the Air Force Reserves,
and also something about Air Force
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Regulation 35 -62.
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That is a regulation which states that a
person may be regarded as a security
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risk if he has close and continuing
association with communists, or people
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believed to have communist sympathies.
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The lieutenant was asked to resign in
August. He declined.
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A board was called, and his case was
heard.
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At the end, it was recommended that he
be severed from the Air Force, although
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it was also stated that there was no
question whatsoever As to the
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loyalty, we propose to examine insofar
as we can the case of Milo Radulovich.
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Our reporter, Joe Worshpa. Cameraman,
Charlie Mack.
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This is the town of Dexter, Michigan.
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Population, 1 ,500.
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This is the story of Milo Radulovich. No
special hero, no martyr. He came to
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Dexter one year ago after 10 years in
the Air Force.
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does not question my loyalty in the
least. They have reiterated that on
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occasions.
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They have presented me with allegations
against my sister and father
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to the effect that my sister and dad
have read
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what are now called subversive
newspapers and that my
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sister and father's activities are
questionable.
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That's the specific charge or
allegation, I prefer to call it, against
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Lieutenant Radulovich was defended by
attorney Charles C. Lockwood, and this
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the report on the hearing.
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The Air Force did not produce a single
witness.
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We were not told who the accusers were.
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We have no right to confront them or to
cross -examine them.
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But at the conclusion of the trial...
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Although we had met the allegations, the
Air Force made findings at the
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conclusion of the hearing that every
single allegation was true.
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This is the sister, Margaret Radulovich
Fishman. She neither defends nor
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explains her political activities.
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I feel that my activities, be they what
they may or my political beliefs, are my
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own private affair.
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And I feel that... The charges leveled
against me,
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and by reason of which they are trying
to purge him from the Army, just
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seem to me to be a fantastic trend in
this country.
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Milo, I guess a lot of people must have
asked you from time to time, wouldn't it
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have been a lot easier for you if you
would have...
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Well, just kept sort of quiet about the
whole thing. Maybe resigned and nobody
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would have known anything about it and
all this trouble wouldn't have come to
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you. Yes, that's right. I could have
signed a resignation form,
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which was titled a resignation in lieu
of elimination from the service.
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And this would have given me an
honorable discharge.
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However, the honorable discharge would
have stipulated that I had, you know,
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been discharged.
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Because the Air Force could not trust
me. In other words, because I had been
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discharged as a security risk.
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And what happens to your two children?
That is, your five -year -old and your
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five -month -old in terms of you.
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Yes, if I am being judged on my
relatives, if are my children going to
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to denounce me? Are they going to be
judged on what their father was labeled?
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Are they going to...
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have to explain to their friends, etc.,
why their father is a security risk.
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I see absolutely that this is a chain
reaction.
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If the thing is let's stand as the first
recommendation was sent out by the
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board, I see a chain reaction that has
no end to anybody or anybody.
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Perhaps you'll permit me to read a few
sentences just at the end.
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because I'd like to say rather precisely
what we mean.
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We have told the Air Force that we will
provide facilities for any corrections
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or criticisms it should like to make in
the case of Milo Radulovic.
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We are unable to judge the charges
against the lieutenant's father or
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because neither we nor you nor they nor
the lawyers know precisely what was
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contained in that manila envelope.
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Was it hearsay, rumor, gossip, slander,
or was it hard, ascertainable fact that
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can be backed by credible witnesses?
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We do not know.
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We believe the son shall not bear the
iniquity of the father, even if that
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iniquity be proved. And in this case, it
was not.
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But we also believe that this case
illustrates the urgent need for the
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forces to communicate more fully than
they have so far done the regulations
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procedures to be followed in attempting
to protect national security and the
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rights of the individual.
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In any case, whatever happens in this
whole area of the relationship between
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individual and the state.
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We will do it ourselves.
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It cannot be blamed on Malenkov or Mao
Zedong or even our allies. And it seems
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to us that it's Fred Friendly and myself
that this is a subject that should be
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argued about endlessly.
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Good night and good luck.
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Friday's Edward R. Murrow, person to
person on the CBS television network.
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And we're out.
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I think we're fine.
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Oh, I like the sound of this.
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What's this tune?
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Ah, all right.
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I sure hope I remember these words.
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It's been a while.
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Right here?
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I've got my eyes on you.
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So best be...
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I'm checking on all you do from A to Z.
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So, darling, just be wise.
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Keep your eyes on me.
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Keep your eyes on me.
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All right, let's take a bow. I've got to
learn these words.
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That's all the room we had on the fence
for it. Lee, how old are you?
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I'm 35, Ed.
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Well, at 35, looking back at all that's
happened, what comes to your mind first?
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Ed, I would say that God has been very,
very good to us in making all of this
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happen to our family.
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And I suppose that nowhere but in the
United States could...
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This happened to an ordinary American
family like ours.
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I'm very grateful.
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Well, surely something must get under
your skin once in a while, doesn't it?
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Well, about the only thing that bothers
me is when people accuse me of having a
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following only of nice old ladies. I
have nothing against the nice old
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but I like nice young ladies, too.
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Lee, thanks so much for letting us come
and visit you, and will you say
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goodnight to the rest of your family for
us?
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I certainly will.
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Thanks so much.
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Goodnight, Ed. Goodnight, Lee.
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Next week, we'll take you to Beverly
Hills, California, and the home of
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Rooney and his new bride.
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Until then, goodnight and good luck.
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And we're out.
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Good show, Ed.
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So that...
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Mr.
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Murrow?
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Mr. Murrow?
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Mr. Paley was wondering if you'd meet
him for a drink.
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When?
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Uh, now.
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He's at the Penscom bar.
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What's he doing there? Will you just
call him, Shirley, will you please?
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I'll let him know. Thank you.
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Hi, Don.
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Hi, Shirley.
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Huh.
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You getting good at this, Ed?
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They're going to think you like it.
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Pays the bills.
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How are you, Don?
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It's day to day.
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Well, if she saw how good you look right
now, she'd be back.
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Tell her that if you see her, will you?
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So I read the O 'Brien piece.
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Yeah, it's pretty tough.
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I'm a pinko.
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I slant the news.
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Just waiting for him to say my wife left
me, too.
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Well, nobody worth their salt reads him.
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You read him.
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Well, see, I rest my case.
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Does Paley read him?
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Bill Paley's not going to do anything,
Doc.
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Listen, Ed, thanks.
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I just came over because I wanted to see
how great the lieutenant piece was.
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Thanks. How's the fallout?
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Mostly good, surprisingly.
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Is this the start?
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You taking sides? Just a little poke
with a stick, see what happens.
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Well, let me know if I can help.
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But you're a pinko, Doc.
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I'll see you, Ed.
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May I have your attention, please, on
track one.
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The 830 train to New Haven has been
canceled.
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We apologize for any inconvenience.
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Hey, Joe.
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What's all this Radwich junk you're
putting out?
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Oh, Don.
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I got nothing to say to you now. We just
got to get this film off to the lab.
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What would you say if I told you that
Murrow was on the Soviet payroll in
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Uh, give us a sec, will you, Charlie?
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Sure. I gotta use the head anyway.
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Hey, Joe.
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Watch yourself with this guy.
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Is McCarthy going to the
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Eisenhower dinner? No idea. I don't keep
the senator's calendar for him, Joe.
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Oh, really?
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This is a track change announcement.
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The 845 Northeast Corridor train to New
York City will be arriving on track two.
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What? You don't watch any spy films,
Donald?
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You can't just hand me a classified
folder. You gotta slip it in my
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when I'm not looking.
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It's actually perfect. I didn't know who
to give this information to. Paley or
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Murrow. As you can imagine, Fred and I
aren't very friendly.
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No pun intended.
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No pun.
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Elocuted.
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Elocuted. Is that a word or did you just
make that up?
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You boys and your word.
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Is Ed in New York right now memorizing a
thesaurus?
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Joe, what's another word for thesaurus?
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Oh, it must be awfully quiet at the
Algonquin now that you're gone. Except
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Harpo talking away.
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All right, Donald.
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What do you got?
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In short.
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Ed Murrow's been a communist sympathizer
since the 1930s. Member of the
480
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Industrial Workers of the World.
481
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:18,060
Sponsor of educational trips to Moscow
and on the Soviet payroll in 1934.
482
00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:19,460
It's all there.
483
00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:27,640
You want to know why that's not
possible?
484
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,940
Why are you going to lose this one,
Donald?
485
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:37,640
Because everybody in the country knows
that if nothing else, Ed Murrow is a
486
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,360
loyal American. He is a patriot.
487
00:33:40,340 --> 00:33:44,200
Did you know that the word gullible
isn't in the dictionary, Joe?
488
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,520
I give this to Ed? I'd like you to. I
have copies.
489
00:33:49,460 --> 00:33:51,260
I think you guys go too far.
490
00:33:51,540 --> 00:33:54,920
Well, if it walks like a duck and talks
like a duck.
491
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,060
It's a terrible shame.
492
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,660
Murrow's brother being a general in the
Air Force.
493
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:04,100
What'd I miss?
494
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:13,159
Nothing. Ed, Donald's just leaving. He's
got a hole to crawl back into.
495
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,120
Give my best to Ed.
496
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,659
Bill? Hello, Ed. How's Janet?
497
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,540
How's your boy? Oh, well, how's babe?
498
00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:32,560
Fine. She's fine.
499
00:34:33,179 --> 00:34:37,139
Well... Her fundraiser got rained on.
Well, that's why I don't plan anything.
500
00:34:37,380 --> 00:34:39,139
Really? You wouldn't know it.
501
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:40,920
Reading fiction?
502
00:34:40,940 --> 00:34:41,940
I hope.
503
00:34:42,940 --> 00:34:45,120
You tell me. Well, we know how they're
going to come at us.
504
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,219
That's just the first shot.
505
00:34:47,860 --> 00:34:52,120
Somebody will go down. Now, have you
checked your facts? Are you on safe
506
00:34:52,219 --> 00:34:53,360
I'm sure. Cards.
507
00:34:53,580 --> 00:34:54,580
They're my cards.
508
00:34:55,060 --> 00:34:59,080
You lose, what happens? Five guys find
themselves out of work.
509
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:04,540
I am responsible for a hell of a lot
more than five goddamn reporters.
510
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,480
Let it go.
511
00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:12,620
McCarthy will self -destruct. Cohn, all
of them. I don't like you to run from a
512
00:35:12,620 --> 00:35:17,260
fight. I'm not running from anything. Is
that so? Hey, I write your check.
513
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,800
I put you in that country house. I put
your son through school. And you should
514
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,260
have told me about this before it got so
far down the road.
515
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:29,020
Is it an apology that you want? We don't
make the news, Ed. We report the news.
516
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:33,380
99 % of the time he is wrong about the
people he labels. If he goes too far,
517
00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:36,340
Senate will investigate him and we will
report on that. 100 % of the time he is
518
00:35:36,340 --> 00:35:39,640
wrong when he steps on their civil
liberty. What are you doing, Ed? You are
519
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,780
trying him in the press.
520
00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:47,080
No, you have decided. And you're
presenting it as fast. So where do you
521
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,080
take this?
522
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,180
Every one of your boys has to be clean.
523
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,400
You understand?
524
00:35:57,580 --> 00:35:58,580
No ties.
525
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:04,720
If Aaron's mother went to a group
theater fundraiser in 1932, he is out.
526
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:10,160
Hewitt, too. Everyone in that room, make
no mistake, I will cut them loose.
527
00:36:10,580 --> 00:36:12,700
A corporate will not interfere.
528
00:36:13,450 --> 00:36:14,450
With editorial.
529
00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:20,230
But editorial will not jeopardize the
hundreds of employees of the Columbia
530
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:21,490
Broadcasting System.
531
00:36:21,790 --> 00:36:25,430
Yes. Mr. Paley, Senator Symington is on
the phone.
532
00:36:27,250 --> 00:36:29,650
And we're not advertising it.
533
00:36:32,430 --> 00:36:33,430
Hello, Steve.
534
00:36:34,010 --> 00:36:35,010
Right.
535
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:38,580
Well, yes, Senator, I do have a
question. The U .S.
536
00:36:39,060 --> 00:36:42,500
military is said to have better nuclear
capabilities with much smaller bombs,
537
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:47,440
but the Soviets have developed longer
-range missiles, which pit the two
538
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,680
against each other in a race to build
the first intercontinental rocket
539
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,220
of delivering a nuclear explosion.
540
00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:58,680
The Soviets believe they have the upper
hand, but military experts here at home
541
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,440
are confident the U .S. will win the
race to complete a full and functioning
542
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,700
missile capable of carrying a nuclear
bomb.
543
00:37:05,060 --> 00:37:11,940
Let me make it easier. I just need to
know
544
00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:12,940
for the good of the peace.
545
00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:16,500
If any of you have any connection at
all.
546
00:37:17,170 --> 00:37:18,510
Read a communist newsletter.
547
00:37:19,210 --> 00:37:20,570
Traveled to St. Petersburg.
548
00:37:21,010 --> 00:37:24,370
Was your mother dating a socialist in
1922?
549
00:37:24,610 --> 00:37:27,910
You know what? Why did you leave my
mother out of this? Don't care.
550
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:29,790
I just need to know.
551
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:34,650
You know, I had a fling with a fascist
once. Oh, that must have been fun. No,
552
00:37:34,650 --> 00:37:36,710
not after the war. They were a little
down.
553
00:37:36,970 --> 00:37:38,350
Knock it off. Knock it off.
554
00:37:38,970 --> 00:37:39,970
Ed,
555
00:37:41,710 --> 00:37:44,530
I think I should excuse myself. Yeah,
I'm going to have to excuse myself.
556
00:37:47,660 --> 00:37:49,020
Let me get out now.
557
00:37:49,540 --> 00:37:54,400
I don't want to hurt us. Christ. Okay,
that kills us.
558
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,800
Oh.
559
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,620
My ex was... I wouldn't say she was a
communist, but...
560
00:38:03,620 --> 00:38:06,580
She certainly attended meetings.
561
00:38:08,460 --> 00:38:10,200
It was before we were married.
562
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,060
And it never came up until after we were
divorced.
563
00:38:14,780 --> 00:38:15,940
It didn't matter then.
564
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,160
We were...
565
00:38:18,660 --> 00:38:20,020
We were all on the same side.
566
00:38:21,980 --> 00:38:25,520
Look, I'm not telling you anything you
don't already know, but the thing of it
567
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,920
is, somebody will find out, and they'll
hurt us with it. Hurt us?
568
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:32,160
We can't do this story. I should have
told you sooner.
569
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,440
I'm sorry, Fred.
570
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:36,700
Ed.
571
00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:42,260
Sit down, Homer.
572
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,920
If none of us ever read a book that was
dangerous or had a friend that was
573
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,160
different or joined an organization that
advocated change, we would all be the
574
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,340
exact kind of person Joe McCarthy wants.
575
00:39:09,060 --> 00:39:10,140
We're going to go with the story.
576
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,200
Because the terror is right here in this
room.
577
00:39:16,340 --> 00:39:20,380
Our next report will be about the junior
senator from Wisconsin. And Fred, we
578
00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:21,680
use only his words. You understand.
579
00:39:23,490 --> 00:39:26,890
Okay, fellas, that's it. All the footage
we've banked. Everything.
580
00:39:27,310 --> 00:39:31,950
John, you and Joe and Charlie go through
the HUAC hearings. Eddie and Palmer,
581
00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:35,130
see what else we have. Any speeches he
gave or interviews.
582
00:39:35,570 --> 00:39:36,930
His own words, boys.
583
00:39:37,150 --> 00:39:38,190
That's what we need.
584
00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:40,570
Millie, give me those notes.
585
00:39:42,290 --> 00:39:43,290
Yeah.
586
00:39:48,610 --> 00:39:50,330
There may be trouble.
587
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,440
But while there's moonlight and music
and love and romance
588
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:03,080
Let's face the music and dance
589
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,620
Before the fiddlers have fled
590
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:14,480
Before they ask us to pay the bill And
while
591
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:21,480
we still got a chance Let's face the
music and dance
592
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:04,480
We locked the projector.
593
00:41:05,820 --> 00:41:07,100
Yeah, we'll make it.
594
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:09,160
Excuse me, Mr. Murrow. Mr.
595
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:10,420
Paley's on the line.
596
00:41:11,420 --> 00:41:13,680
Maybe he's going to reimburse us for the
ad.
597
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,940
We'd like that. I would like that. I
already used it.
598
00:41:17,580 --> 00:41:20,760
This is Ed.
599
00:41:21,220 --> 00:41:25,700
Hey, the Knickerbockers are playing
tonight, and I got front row seats.
600
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,920
Are you interested?
601
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,940
I'm a little busy bringing down the
network tonight, Bill.
602
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,680
is that tonight?
603
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,000
The knickerbockers, you say? Front row?
604
00:41:36,260 --> 00:41:37,260
It's tempting.
605
00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:40,180
So you know.
606
00:41:40,980 --> 00:41:41,980
We're covered.
607
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,600
All right.
608
00:41:45,860 --> 00:41:47,060
I'm with you tonight, Ed.
609
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:49,700
And I'll be with you in the morning as
well.
610
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,840
Thanks, Bill.
611
00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:56,000
What do you think, Joe?
612
00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:59,400
I think we're ready.
613
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,820
I... Wish we could wait till we get more
footage.
614
00:42:03,060 --> 00:42:06,340
I just don't think we could take the
chance. I think that we have to hit
615
00:42:06,340 --> 00:42:11,620
McCarthy before he could come after Ed.
Well, they haven't gone after the Alsops
616
00:42:11,620 --> 00:42:12,620
or Herb Block.
617
00:42:13,220 --> 00:42:17,740
The Alsops and Herb Block didn't work
for the Institute of International
618
00:42:17,740 --> 00:42:19,560
Education in 1934.
619
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Then I guess it's time.
620
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,760
Okay.
621
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,480
Hi. Hi.
622
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,220
Bye. Bye.
623
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,800
You worried?
624
00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:37,860
I didn't think I was.
625
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:43,440
I don't know why. I was in the office on
Friday. I answered the phone. It was
626
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,800
Howard calling from London.
627
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,620
He asked me what was going on with
McCarthy, and before I answered him, I
628
00:42:49,620 --> 00:42:52,560
and looked over my shoulder to see who
was listening.
629
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,980
And who was listening?
630
00:42:56,660 --> 00:42:57,660
Chairman Mao.
631
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,920
Oh, Joe, your ring.
632
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,000
another wife who reminds her husband to
take off his wedding ring before he goes
633
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,000
to the office?
634
00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:12,040
Ava Gardner. 30 seconds.
635
00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:19,100
20
636
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:29,960
seconds.
637
00:43:40,110 --> 00:43:41,310
Ten seconds.
638
00:43:45,570 --> 00:43:49,790
In five, four, three, two.
639
00:43:51,970 --> 00:43:52,970
Good evening.
640
00:43:53,250 --> 00:43:57,470
Because a report on Senator Joseph R.
McCarthy is by definition controversial,
641
00:43:57,770 --> 00:44:01,930
we want to say exactly what we mean and
request permission to read from a
642
00:44:01,930 --> 00:44:05,390
script. any remarks Murrow and Friendly
may make.
643
00:44:05,690 --> 00:44:09,570
If the senator feels that we have done
violence to his words or pictures and he
644
00:44:09,570 --> 00:44:14,270
wishes to speak to answer himself, an
opportunity will be afforded him on this
645
00:44:14,270 --> 00:44:17,630
program. Our working thesis tonight is
from this quotation.
646
00:44:18,110 --> 00:44:22,470
If this fight against communism has made
a fight between America's two great
647
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:26,150
political parties, the American people
know that one of those parties will be
648
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:29,790
destroyed and the republic cannot endure
very long as a one -party system.
649
00:44:30,090 --> 00:44:31,410
We applaud that statement.
650
00:44:31,850 --> 00:44:35,850
We think Senator McCarthy should as
well. He said it 17 months ago in
651
00:44:37,330 --> 00:44:41,930
The American people realize that this
cannot be made a fight between America's
652
00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:43,010
two great political parties.
653
00:44:43,690 --> 00:44:47,150
If this fight against communism is made
a fight between America's two great
654
00:44:47,150 --> 00:44:50,970
political parties, the American people
know that one of those parties will be
655
00:44:50,970 --> 00:44:55,510
destroyed and the republic can't endure
very long as a one -party system.
656
00:44:56,290 --> 00:44:58,850
On one thing, the senator has been
consistent.
657
00:44:59,470 --> 00:45:03,470
Often acting as a one -man committee, he
has traveled far, interviewed many,
658
00:45:03,610 --> 00:45:07,910
terrorized some, accused civilian and
military leaders of the past
659
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:11,570
administration of a great conspiracy to
hand over the country to communism.
660
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:35,200
Part of that quotation on what meat does
this our Caesar feed?
661
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,720
And upon what meat does Senator McCarthy
feed?
662
00:45:39,180 --> 00:45:43,080
Two of the staples of his diet are the
investigations, protected by immunity,
663
00:45:43,340 --> 00:45:44,740
and the half -truths.
664
00:45:45,380 --> 00:45:50,200
You attended Columbia University in the
early 30s. I did, Mr. Chairman.
665
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:51,640
Will you speak a little louder, sir?
666
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,940
I did, Mr. Chairman.
667
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,700
And were you expelled from Columbia?
668
00:45:58,730 --> 00:46:02,350
I was suspended from classes on April 1,
1932.
669
00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:07,130
I was later reinstated, and I resigned
from the university.
670
00:46:07,770 --> 00:46:09,130
And you resigned from the university.
671
00:46:12,310 --> 00:46:17,050
Did the Civil Liberties Union provide
you with an attorney at that time?
672
00:46:17,930 --> 00:46:21,730
I had many offers of attorneys, and one
of those was from the American Civil
673
00:46:21,730 --> 00:46:26,010
Liberties Union, yes. The question is,
did the Civil Liberties Union supply you
674
00:46:26,010 --> 00:46:26,839
with an attorney?
675
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:27,960
They did supply an attorney.
676
00:46:28,260 --> 00:46:29,260
The answer is yes.
677
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,440
The answer is yes.
678
00:46:31,020 --> 00:46:35,400
You know, the Civil Liberties Union has
been listed as a front for and doing the
679
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,440
work of the Communist Party.
680
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,840
Mr. Chairman, this was 1932.
681
00:46:41,180 --> 00:46:45,500
Yeah, I know it was 1932. Do you know
that they since have been listed as a
682
00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:47,320
front for and doing the work of the
Communist Party?
683
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,980
I do not know that they have been listed
so, sir. You don't know they have been
684
00:46:50,980 --> 00:46:52,220
listed? I have read that mention.
685
00:46:53,620 --> 00:46:55,260
You wrote a book.
686
00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:01,000
in 1932 uh i'm going to ask you again at
the time you wrote this book did you
687
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:07,460
feel that professors should be given the
right to teach sophomores that marriage
688
00:47:07,460 --> 00:47:14,160
uh the quote should be cast out of our
civilization as antiquated
689
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:19,360
and stupid religious phenomena well
that's your feeling at that time my
690
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,590
was that professors should have the
right to express their considered
691
00:47:23,590 --> 00:47:25,350
on any subject, whatever they were.
692
00:47:25,770 --> 00:47:27,530
I'm going to make an answer to that.
693
00:47:28,030 --> 00:47:32,570
I'll answer yes, but you put an
implication on it and you feature this
694
00:47:32,570 --> 00:47:36,190
particular point out of a book which, of
course, is quite out of context, does
695
00:47:36,190 --> 00:47:38,690
not give a proper impression of a book
as a whole.
696
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:43,610
The American public doesn't get an
honest impression of even that book as
697
00:47:43,610 --> 00:47:44,790
from what you're quoting from it.
698
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,880
The Reed Harris hearing illustrates one
of the senator's techniques.
699
00:47:50,580 --> 00:47:54,380
Twice, he said the American Civil
Liberties Union was listed as a
700
00:47:54,380 --> 00:47:58,860
front. The attorney general's list does
not and never has listed the ACLU as
701
00:47:58,860 --> 00:48:04,620
subversive, nor has the FBI or any other
federal government agency. And the ACLU
702
00:48:04,620 --> 00:48:08,560
holds in its files letters of
commendation from President Truman,
703
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,820
Eisenhower and General MacArthur.
704
00:48:11,460 --> 00:48:12,980
Earlier, the senator asked.
705
00:48:13,370 --> 00:48:16,170
Upon what meat does this our Caesar
feed?
706
00:48:16,550 --> 00:48:20,110
Had he looked three lines earlier in
Shakespeare's Caesar, he would have
707
00:48:20,110 --> 00:48:22,030
this line, which is not altogether
inappropriate.
708
00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:27,470
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our
stars, but in ourselves.
709
00:48:28,430 --> 00:48:31,790
No one familiar with the history of this
country can deny that congressional
710
00:48:31,790 --> 00:48:32,850
committees are useful.
711
00:48:33,070 --> 00:48:37,370
It is necessary to investigate before
legislating. But the line between
712
00:48:37,370 --> 00:48:41,890
investigating and persecuting is a very
fine one, and the junior senator from
713
00:48:41,890 --> 00:48:42,890
Wisconsin has...
714
00:48:42,990 --> 00:48:44,230
stepped over it repeatedly.
715
00:48:44,930 --> 00:48:49,290
We must not confuse dissent with
disloyalty. We must remember always that
716
00:48:49,290 --> 00:48:53,010
accusation is not proof and that
conviction depends upon evidence and due
717
00:48:53,010 --> 00:48:54,010
process of law.
718
00:48:54,410 --> 00:48:56,810
We will not walk in fear one of another.
719
00:48:57,050 --> 00:49:01,250
We will not be driven by fear into an
age of unreason if we dig deep in our
720
00:49:01,250 --> 00:49:04,410
history and our doctrine and remember
that we are not descended from fearful
721
00:49:04,410 --> 00:49:09,530
men, not from men who fear to write, to
speak, to associate, or to defend the
722
00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:11,510
causes that are for the moment
unpopular.
723
00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:16,440
We proclaim ourselves as indeed we are
the defenders of freedom wherever it
724
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,720
continues to exist in the world. But we
cannot defend freedom abroad by
725
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:21,840
deserting it at home.
726
00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:27,240
The actions of the junior senator from
Wisconsin have caused alarm and dismay
727
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:31,460
amongst our allies abroad and given
considerable comfort to our enemies.
728
00:49:32,020 --> 00:49:33,360
And whose fault is that?
729
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,040
Not really his.
730
00:49:35,580 --> 00:49:40,320
He didn't create this situation of fear.
He merely exploited it.
731
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,880
and rather successfully.
732
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,460
Cassius was right.
733
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,280
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our
stars, but in ourselves.
734
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,740
Good night, and good luck.
735
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,820
I don't know whether all of you have
seen what I just saw, but I want to
736
00:50:09,820 --> 00:50:13,780
associate myself and this program with
what Ed Murrow has just said and say
737
00:50:13,780 --> 00:50:15,320
I've never been prouder of CBS.
738
00:50:16,980 --> 00:50:17,980
And now the news.
739
00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:22,840
Feel like a scotch? I think everybody
could use one. Yep. Women have moved
740
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,300
another male domain.
741
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,540
In 20 United States cities, they've
proved themselves highly efficient in
742
00:50:28,540 --> 00:50:29,880
parking and traffic control.
743
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,680
And the trend to the greater employment
of traffic policemen as women is rising.
744
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,020
Many of the...
745
00:51:06,430 --> 00:51:11,750
3 .30, early editions are out now. Oh,
I'm not worried about that. No, of
746
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:16,230
not. Hey, Cheryl, honey, run down and
pick up the early editions.
747
00:51:16,550 --> 00:51:18,490
All of them? All of them. Just get O
'Brien.
748
00:51:18,990 --> 00:51:20,510
All right, watch my drink.
749
00:51:21,570 --> 00:51:22,810
Yeah, I'll go with you, Shirley.
750
00:51:28,690 --> 00:51:31,470
I'm going to have to fire Joe so those
two can date. Cigarette?
751
00:51:31,890 --> 00:51:32,890
I quit.
752
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,160
Good time to quit.
753
00:51:34,940 --> 00:51:36,340
Yeah, but what did you do?
754
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,700
Well, first we want to see if we have
jobs tomorrow.
755
00:51:39,220 --> 00:51:43,900
And if we still have jobs tomorrow, then
tail gunner Joe gets to return fire.
756
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,120
What's he going to say?
757
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,480
He's going to say we're a pinko
organization with a leftist agenda. We
758
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:51,480
own word.
759
00:51:51,500 --> 00:51:55,340
It's, uh... Well, we do have a leftist
agenda.
760
00:51:56,940 --> 00:51:57,940
I'm a pinko.
761
00:52:04,330 --> 00:52:07,070
awfully quiet there, didn't it? We've
got Annie Lee Moss.
762
00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:11,430
We can have that together by next week
if need be. Is that a whole show?
763
00:52:11,690 --> 00:52:12,690
It's close.
764
00:52:13,250 --> 00:52:14,250
Listen, Ed.
765
00:52:15,330 --> 00:52:19,410
There's not going to be a shortage of
material on him. What we have to do now
766
00:52:19,410 --> 00:52:24,270
keep up the pressure till his rebuttal
and then move to Calcutta.
767
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:27,970
Sure do miss radio.
768
00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:30,030
You've got a face for radio.
769
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,860
Well, my wife keeps telling me. All
right, here we go. We've got all of
770
00:52:36,260 --> 00:52:39,140
The Post, The Times. Who wrote it? Jack
Gould.
771
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:47,020
Edward R. Murrow's television program on
Senator Joseph R. McCarthy was an
772
00:52:47,020 --> 00:52:50,740
exciting and provocative examination of
the man and his methods.
773
00:52:51,140 --> 00:52:56,300
It was crusading journalism of high
responsibility and courage.
774
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,860
For TV so often plagued by timidity and
hesitation, the program was a milestone
775
00:53:01,860 --> 00:53:03,620
that reflected enlightened citizenship.
776
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:11,240
The program was no
777
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:15,120
less an indictment of those who wish the
problems posed by the senator's tactics
778
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,520
and theatrics would just go away and
leave them alone.
779
00:53:18,900 --> 00:53:22,480
That was Mr. Murrow's Intellivision's
triumph and a very great one.
780
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:29,620
I already did. How do you think we got
that review?
781
00:53:31,180 --> 00:53:32,920
What about the post?
782
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:34,560
Pretty good.
783
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,960
What about O 'Brien?
784
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,680
The same.
785
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,320
Julie, what did O 'Brien say?
786
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:43,500
Oh, I don't have it. Joe, what about
you?
787
00:53:44,460 --> 00:53:45,900
No, here, somewhere.
788
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:48,900
Okay.
789
00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:51,900
Hang on.
790
00:53:52,180 --> 00:53:53,180
Okay.
791
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,560
Jack O 'Brien.
792
00:53:56,010 --> 00:54:00,550
We can't say we were surprised that
Edward R. Murrow's hate McCarthy
793
00:54:00,550 --> 00:54:06,470
last evening, when his explosively one
-sided propaganda, edited with deviously
794
00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:11,050
clever selectivity for McCarthy's march
against communism, was finished last
795
00:54:11,050 --> 00:54:15,810
evening. By equally Machiavellian
coincidence, the following telecast
796
00:54:15,810 --> 00:54:18,190
Murrow's PM protege, Don Hollenbeck.
797
00:54:20,090 --> 00:54:24,550
In an obviously gloating mood,
Hollenbeck hoped viewers had witnessed
798
00:54:24,550 --> 00:54:26,410
patron's triumph from and for the left.
799
00:54:27,670 --> 00:54:31,270
And so on and so on. Yeah, I guess O
'Brien doesn't like scotch.
800
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:35,390
It's okay, Shirley, finish it. Shirley,
read the post, huh?
801
00:54:36,250 --> 00:54:38,950
That's it, Don. It's just... Shirley,
finish it.
802
00:54:39,870 --> 00:54:41,330
That's it, Don. That's it.
803
00:54:41,610 --> 00:54:42,610
Shirley.
804
00:54:45,650 --> 00:54:46,650
Okay.
805
00:54:48,140 --> 00:54:52,120
The Columbia Broadcasting System has
been in a lengthy clean house of
806
00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:55,680
mood. The worst offenders on lesser
levels have been quietly pushed out of
807
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,680
company.
808
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,660
Don Hollenbeck, a graduate of the
demised PINCO publication PM, attacked
809
00:55:01,660 --> 00:55:04,420
conservative newspapers with sly and
slanted propaganda.
810
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,500
He then proceeded through an equally
tilted review of the day's events, with
811
00:55:08,500 --> 00:55:11,620
McCarthy dominating his words, actions,
attitude, and camera.
812
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:14,640
It's O 'Brien.
813
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,580
I think I'll have that cigarette, Ed.
814
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,280
I'm heading out.
815
00:55:21,660 --> 00:55:24,940
Got a staff meeting in five hours.
816
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,100
Do you want to share a cab?
817
00:55:31,980 --> 00:55:33,720
Oh, yeah. You headed downtown?
818
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,300
Yeah. Where do you live, Shirley? No,
no. She lives downtown.
819
00:55:37,780 --> 00:55:38,780
Yeah.
820
00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:41,380
Hang in there, Don. See you, boys.
821
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:43,240
See ya.
822
00:55:43,660 --> 00:55:44,660
The end.
823
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,140
Don. Appreciate it.
824
00:55:46,540 --> 00:55:47,540
Today,
825
00:55:48,740 --> 00:55:49,740
you mean.
826
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:56,920
Sorry I missed you the other night, Don.
827
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,080
I need to ask you something, Ed.
828
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,320
It's about O 'Brien.
829
00:56:04,700 --> 00:56:06,960
O 'Brien doesn't matter. He's killing
me. It doesn't make a bit of difference.
830
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,620
It's not just him. We have to let this
guy have it. We're not going to go after
831
00:56:10,620 --> 00:56:13,520
O 'Brien. I'm not going to take on
McCarthy and Hearst.
832
00:56:13,820 --> 00:56:14,940
I can't beat them both.
833
00:56:15,220 --> 00:56:16,480
Don't read the paper, Don.
834
00:56:17,460 --> 00:56:18,800
Or don't read O 'Brien anyway.
835
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,160
No, I get that.
836
00:56:49,230 --> 00:56:53,610
I wake up in the morning and I don't
recognize anything.
837
00:56:55,950 --> 00:57:00,650
I feel like I went to sleep three years
ago and somebody hijacked.
838
00:57:01,970 --> 00:57:05,750
As if all the reasonable people took a
plane to Europe and left us behind.
839
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,260
I was always an optimist.
840
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:35,220
Really. I always thought things work out
half full.
841
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:38,800
Yeah.
842
00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:42,800
I believe in the system.
843
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,720
As disastrous as it can seem at times, I
believe in it.
844
00:57:48,980 --> 00:57:50,880
We designed it to fix it.
845
00:57:52,220 --> 00:57:55,460
Madison built it into the Constitution,
for Christ's sake.
846
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,440
I was talking about my divorce.
847
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,320
So was I.
848
00:58:04,540 --> 00:58:08,420
Well, I'm glad the forefathers
understood the term dissolution of a
849
00:58:09,140 --> 00:58:11,660
I'm sure they had their difficulties
with the opposite sex.
850
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:13,720
I'm talking about McCarthy.
851
00:58:15,060 --> 00:58:16,060
So was I.
852
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:21,700
Well,
853
00:58:22,060 --> 00:58:23,060
I thought I'd try.
854
00:58:25,300 --> 00:58:26,300
Sorry, Doc.
855
00:58:28,490 --> 00:58:30,510
We never have this conversation, okay?
856
00:58:31,970 --> 00:58:33,150
It's okay with you, Senator.
857
00:58:35,090 --> 00:58:36,450
Don't laugh. I've thought about it.
858
00:59:02,620 --> 00:59:04,160
How long for that new copy?
859
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,480
Give me an hour. It's going to be an
hour.
860
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,960
Yeah, we got a deadline.
861
00:59:09,540 --> 00:59:11,060
He's got back from D .C.
862
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,580
McClellan, just look at that. The
McCarthy at the Pentagon here. He called
863
00:59:15,580 --> 00:59:16,578
McCarthy evil.
864
00:59:16,580 --> 00:59:17,279
Wait, who did?
865
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,660
Senator McClellan. He's sitting.
866
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:20,740
Who's D .C. down from D .C.
867
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,080
He called him evil.
868
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,980
Wait, who's evil? You get it on camera?
869
00:59:25,260 --> 00:59:27,740
Yeah. Wait, who is evil?
870
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:30,630
Oh. Eddie, I can hear you.
871
00:59:31,450 --> 00:59:32,550
What are they doing in there?
872
00:59:33,390 --> 00:59:34,410
Rewriting the Constitution.
873
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:35,810
They were there for the original.
874
00:59:37,010 --> 00:59:38,010
Hold on, Joe.
875
00:59:38,030 --> 00:59:40,070
Palmer, can I talk to you for a minute?
876
00:59:40,290 --> 00:59:41,290
Yeah, sure, Fred.
877
00:59:42,130 --> 00:59:43,670
Fred. Yeah.
878
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:46,850
Fellas, McCarthy's office just called.
879
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:48,650
He wants equal time.
880
00:59:49,070 --> 00:59:51,790
When? April 6th. In studio.
881
00:59:52,130 --> 00:59:53,630
He wants to film it in his office.
882
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:54,910
Who?
883
00:59:54,970 --> 00:59:55,970
McCarthy.
884
00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:58,150
Jesus Christ.
885
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,560
They told me Buckley wanted to respond.
886
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:01,880
No.
887
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:03,960
It's McCarthy.
888
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,000
But are they going to let Charlie?
What's he going to say?
889
01:00:07,260 --> 01:00:12,780
I don't know what it's going to be. He's
going to come after me. It's the only
890
01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:13,780
thing he can do.
891
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,540
He's going to bet that Senator Trump's a
newsman.
892
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,080
He'll lose.
893
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,240
Maybe.
894
01:00:23,060 --> 01:00:26,180
Okay, fellas, here we go. Joe, call
Stanton and let him know.
895
01:00:26,460 --> 01:00:31,080
John, let's see all the Eisenhower
footage you've got. We need to prefer a
896
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:36,580
Yep. Phil, illegal, wants to have a word
with you.
897
01:00:37,860 --> 01:00:38,860
Okay.
898
01:00:39,140 --> 01:00:41,700
Now? Yes, now is best.
899
01:00:43,340 --> 01:00:45,420
Never very good news, is it?
900
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,760
Not often.
901
01:01:03,530 --> 01:01:05,110
Can you connect me with Phil in legal?
902
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:06,430
Right away.
903
01:01:08,290 --> 01:01:09,290
Mr. Williams.
904
01:01:09,930 --> 01:01:10,930
Guilty.
905
01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:12,750
I hope not.
906
01:01:14,610 --> 01:01:16,410
There isn't a lot of time, so I'll be
brief.
907
01:01:17,970 --> 01:01:22,330
This network is under a tremendous
amount of pressure. These stories aren't
908
01:01:22,330 --> 01:01:23,370
helping. I understand.
909
01:01:23,910 --> 01:01:24,910
I'm not sure you do.
910
01:01:26,110 --> 01:01:29,170
There's a great deal of concern about
your past position.
911
01:01:29,830 --> 01:01:31,290
My wife's past position?
912
01:01:31,570 --> 01:01:32,570
That's right.
913
01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:35,340
You act as a file on you.
914
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,920
How do you know? A file was sent to Mr.
Paley yesterday.
915
01:01:41,180 --> 01:01:44,060
Well, that's interesting timing. Well,
when you strike at a king.
916
01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:46,040
Or a junior senator from Wisconsin.
917
01:01:50,340 --> 01:01:51,780
CBS is prepared to make an offer.
918
01:01:52,260 --> 01:01:56,300
Uh -oh. If you submit your resignation,
CBS will cover any legal expenses you
919
01:01:56,300 --> 01:01:57,300
might incur on this subject.
920
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,520
Oh, that's awfully kind of you. No, it
isn't. No, it isn't.
921
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,480
These guys don't play around.
922
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,240
They're relentless.
923
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,440
They will cost you everything you have.
924
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:10,660
I understand.
925
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,360
Do you?
926
01:02:17,060 --> 01:02:19,600
Palmer, take the deal.
927
01:02:20,620 --> 01:02:23,980
If these guys decide to call you in, we
will cut you loose.
928
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,580
And then no one will be there to help.
Not CBS.
929
01:02:27,300 --> 01:02:28,300
Not Burrow.
930
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:30,440
No one.
931
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,040
Phil, you're a good guy.
932
01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:42,340
And I appreciate that this is your job.
933
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,760
But what you're asking me to do, I could
never do.
934
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:51,880
I understand.
935
01:02:55,940 --> 01:02:59,520
It's funny how your life can be upended
just for telling the truth. And marrying
936
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,060
a communist. Oh, yeah, there is that.
937
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,160
Be careful.
938
01:03:05,180 --> 01:03:06,180
Yeah.
939
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,680
Ed, 28 minutes. I could clip a little
off the end.
940
01:03:14,460 --> 01:03:15,700
I think we have to leave it alone.
941
01:03:16,580 --> 01:03:21,440
Very smart. No time for comment. Came in
10 minutes ago, and we put it up for
942
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:22,580
the first couple of minutes.
943
01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:24,780
You're right.
944
01:03:25,020 --> 01:03:26,020
It's coming after me.
945
01:03:27,220 --> 01:03:28,320
Okay. Thanks.
946
01:03:31,580 --> 01:03:33,020
Charlie, have you seen the latest polls?
947
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:36,080
The most trusted man in America is
Milton Berle.
948
01:03:38,220 --> 01:03:39,700
Maybe he should do the story.
949
01:03:40,980 --> 01:03:41,980
Hey, Fred.
950
01:03:42,580 --> 01:03:45,360
What say we grab a little dinner after
the show?
951
01:03:45,620 --> 01:03:46,660
The 21 Club?
952
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,560
Sure. 45 seconds to air.
953
01:03:51,140 --> 01:03:54,560
Look, there's nothing fun about this
one.
954
01:03:55,140 --> 01:03:59,860
You just gotta put your gloves down,
stick your chin out, and just take it
955
01:03:59,860 --> 01:04:01,900
whole round. Next week's our round.
956
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,820
If I make it up off of Matt.
957
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:05,040
You will.
958
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,080
30 seconds.
959
01:04:25,700 --> 01:04:28,500
Ten seconds.
960
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:37,600
In five, four, three, two...
961
01:04:38,890 --> 01:04:39,890
Good evening.
962
01:04:40,110 --> 01:04:43,970
One month ago tonight, we presented our
report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy.
963
01:04:44,450 --> 01:04:46,010
We labeled it as controversial.
964
01:04:46,290 --> 01:04:51,290
Most of that report consisted of words
and pictures of the senator. At the
965
01:04:51,290 --> 01:04:55,030
we told the senator that if he feels
that we have done violence to his words
966
01:04:55,030 --> 01:04:59,130
pictures and he wishes to speak to
answer himself, an opportunity would be
967
01:04:59,130 --> 01:05:00,330
afforded him on this program.
968
01:05:00,630 --> 01:05:05,090
The senator sought that opportunity,
asked for a three -week delay because he
969
01:05:05,090 --> 01:05:08,130
said he was very busy and wished
adequate time to prepare his reply.
970
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,598
We agree.
971
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,500
We place no restrictions on the method
or manner of the presentation of his
972
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:17,280
reply and suggested that we would not
take time for comment on this program.
973
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,900
Here now is Senator Joseph R. McCarthy,
junior senator from Wisconsin.
974
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:24,840
Good evening.
975
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:30,300
Mr. Edward R. Murrow, educational
director of the Columbia Broadcasting
976
01:05:30,460 --> 01:05:35,560
devoted his program to an attack on the
work of the United States Senate
977
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:36,560
Investigating Committee.
978
01:05:37,260 --> 01:05:39,320
and on me personally as its chairman.
979
01:05:39,540 --> 01:05:43,940
Now, ordinarily, ordinarily I would not
take time out from the important work at
980
01:05:43,940 --> 01:05:46,120
hand to answer Murrow.
981
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:51,740
However, in this case, I feel justified
in doing so because Murrow is the
982
01:05:51,740 --> 01:05:58,320
symbol, the leader, and the cleverest of
the jackal pack, which is always
983
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:03,500
found at the throat of anyone who dares
to expose individual communists and
984
01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:04,500
traitors.
985
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:11,660
I am compelled by the fact to say to you
that Mr. Edward R. Murrow, as far back
986
01:06:11,660 --> 01:06:17,120
as 20 years ago, was engaged in
propaganda for communist causes.
987
01:06:18,260 --> 01:06:23,120
For example, the Institute of
International Education, of which he was
988
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:29,640
acting director, was chosen to act as a
representative by a Soviet agency
989
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,380
to do a job.
990
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,840
which would normally be done by the
Russian secret police.
991
01:06:36,420 --> 01:06:40,620
Now, Mr. Murrow, by his own admission,
was a member of the IWW, that's the
992
01:06:40,620 --> 01:06:46,760
Industrial Workers of the World, a
terrorist organization cited as
993
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,260
an attorney general of the United
States.
994
01:06:48,980 --> 01:06:49,980
Now, Mr.
995
01:06:50,300 --> 01:06:55,500
Murrow said on this program, and I
quote, he said, the actions of the
996
01:06:55,500 --> 01:07:02,220
senator from Wisconsin have given
considerable comfort to the enemy.
997
01:07:03,180 --> 01:07:06,860
That is the language of our statute of
peace, rather strong language.
998
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:12,820
If I am giving comfort to our enemies, I
ought not to be in the Senate.
999
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:18,880
If, on the other hand, Mr. Murrow is
giving comfort to our enemies, he ought
1000
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,020
to be brought into the home of millions
of Americans by the Columbia
1001
01:07:23,020 --> 01:07:24,320
Broadcasting System.
1002
01:07:24,980 --> 01:07:29,460
But this is a question which can be
resolved with...
1003
01:07:32,810 --> 01:07:35,290
I have to go to Philadelphia in the
morning.
1004
01:07:36,650 --> 01:07:37,870
What time is your train?
1005
01:07:38,850 --> 01:07:41,330
Eight. Is Charlie going with you?
1006
01:07:41,830 --> 01:07:42,830
Mm -hmm.
1007
01:07:48,310 --> 01:07:53,750
I don't want to say
1008
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:56,490
what I'm about to say.
1009
01:07:57,650 --> 01:07:58,910
Uh -oh. Yeah.
1010
01:07:59,350 --> 01:08:00,350
You want a divorce.
1011
01:08:01,660 --> 01:08:03,280
No. Do you?
1012
01:08:05,620 --> 01:08:07,000
Depends on what you're about to say.
1013
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:14,920
Just keep having this nagging thought
that we might be wrong.
1014
01:08:16,140 --> 01:08:17,140
About what?
1015
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,120
Well, there are communists here. Yeah.
1016
01:08:21,340 --> 01:08:25,279
They don't always have our best
interests at heart. Probably not. Yeah.
1017
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:29,359
McCarthy? Well, the argument could be
made.
1018
01:08:30,670 --> 01:08:31,850
It's for the greater good.
1019
01:08:33,390 --> 01:08:34,450
That's one argument.
1020
01:08:34,729 --> 01:08:35,729
Alger Hiss?
1021
01:08:36,370 --> 01:08:38,450
What? Alger Hiss had a trial.
1022
01:08:39,090 --> 01:08:41,330
Alger Hiss faced his accusers.
1023
01:08:42,390 --> 01:08:43,990
And went to jail. That's right.
1024
01:08:45,149 --> 01:08:46,189
That's how this works.
1025
01:08:51,330 --> 01:08:56,170
So we're not going to look back and say
we protected the wrong side?
1026
01:08:58,390 --> 01:08:59,390
You're right, Joe.
1027
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:00,800
Yeah.
1028
01:09:02,660 --> 01:09:03,800
I want a divorce.
1029
01:09:06,060 --> 01:09:07,439
Yeah, I wouldn't blame you.
1030
01:09:09,220 --> 01:09:10,700
When did you start smoking?
1031
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:13,399
15 minutes ago.
1032
01:09:16,700 --> 01:09:17,700
Good evening.
1033
01:09:18,220 --> 01:09:23,080
Last week, Senator McCarthy appeared on
this program to correct any errors he
1034
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:27,020
might have thought we made in our report
of March 9th. Since he made no
1035
01:09:27,020 --> 01:09:31,649
reference to any statements of fact, we
must conclude that he found no errors of
1036
01:09:31,649 --> 01:09:37,310
fact. He proved once again that anyone
who exposes him, anyone who does not
1037
01:09:37,310 --> 01:09:41,609
share his hysterical disregard to
decency and human dignity and the rights
1038
01:09:41,609 --> 01:09:46,029
guaranteed in the Constitution must be
either a communist or a fellow traveler.
1039
01:09:46,590 --> 01:09:48,250
I fully expected this treatment.
1040
01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:52,950
The senator added this reporter's name
to a long list of individuals and
1041
01:09:52,950 --> 01:09:56,290
institutions that he has accused of
serving the communist cause.
1042
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,820
His proposition is a very simple one.
1043
01:09:59,500 --> 01:10:05,100
Anyone who criticizes or opposes
McCarthy's methods must be a communist.
1044
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:07,840
that be true, there are an awful lot of
communists in this country.
1045
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:12,220
For the record, let us consider briefly
some of the senator's charges.
1046
01:10:12,780 --> 01:10:16,600
He claimed, but offered no proof, that I
was a member of the Industrial Workers
1047
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,060
of the World. That is false.
1048
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,280
I never was a member of the IWW.
1049
01:10:20,620 --> 01:10:22,000
Never applied for membership.
1050
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,720
The senator charged that Professor
Harold Lasky, a British...
1051
01:10:25,980 --> 01:10:30,700
scholar and politician, dedicated a book
to me. That is true. He is dead. He was
1052
01:10:30,700 --> 01:10:31,840
a socialist. I am not.
1053
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:36,660
He was one of those civilized
individuals who didn't insist upon
1054
01:10:36,660 --> 01:10:39,880
political principles as a precondition
for friendship or conversation.
1055
01:10:40,440 --> 01:10:42,560
I don't agree with his political ideas.
1056
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:47,260
Lasky, as he makes clear in the
introduction, dedicated the book to me
1057
01:10:47,260 --> 01:10:51,420
because of political agreement, but
because he held my wartime broadcasts
1058
01:10:51,420 --> 01:10:52,420
London in high regard.
1059
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,460
And the dedication so reads.
1060
01:10:55,210 --> 01:10:59,510
I believe 20 years ago and I believe
today that mature Americans can engage
1061
01:10:59,510 --> 01:11:03,350
conversation, controversy, a clash of
ideas with communists anywhere in the
1062
01:11:03,350 --> 01:11:05,890
world without becoming contaminated or
converted.
1063
01:11:06,110 --> 01:11:10,010
I believe that our faith, our
conviction, our determination are
1064
01:11:10,010 --> 01:11:14,770
theirs and that we can compete and
successfully not only in the area of
1065
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:16,570
but in the area of ideas.
1066
01:11:17,390 --> 01:11:20,470
I have worked for CBS for 19 years.
1067
01:11:21,210 --> 01:11:26,870
The company has subscribed fully to my
integrity as a broadcaster and as a
1068
01:11:26,870 --> 01:11:27,870
American.
1069
01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:31,490
I require no lectures from the junior
senator from Wisconsin.
1070
01:11:32,790 --> 01:11:36,750
Having searched my conscience and my
files, I cannot contend that I have
1071
01:11:36,750 --> 01:11:40,710
been right or wise, but I have attempted
to pursue the truth with some diligence
1072
01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:44,950
and to report it, even though, as in
this case, I had been warned in advance
1073
01:11:44,950 --> 01:11:48,150
that I would be subjected to the
attentions of Senator McCarthy.
1074
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,560
We should hope to deal with matters of
more vital interest to the country next
1075
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,360
week. Good night and good luck.
1076
01:12:20,300 --> 01:12:21,119
How are you feeling?
1077
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:21,858
How am I?
1078
01:12:21,860 --> 01:12:23,160
How are you feeling?
1079
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:24,940
What time did you leave last night?
1080
01:12:25,180 --> 01:12:28,100
She didn't leave last night. I didn't
leave this morning.
1081
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,320
It's just this today.
1082
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:31,700
Oh, just this?
1083
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:33,100
Ma 'am.
1084
01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:37,380
Somewhere there's music.
1085
01:12:38,740 --> 01:12:40,440
How faint the tune.
1086
01:12:41,260 --> 01:12:43,100
Somewhere there's heaven.
1087
01:12:44,180 --> 01:12:45,880
How high the moon.
1088
01:12:46,660 --> 01:12:49,580
What time are we going till today?
1089
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,120
I'll get back to you in a minute.
1090
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:55,360
We'll be here.
1091
01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:02,040
In the last analysis, the senator was
perched on the television high dive and
1092
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,100
all prepared to make a resounding
splash.
1093
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:11,140
He jumped beautifully but neglected to
check first where he was going to land.
1094
01:13:11,780 --> 01:13:16,320
It must have been something of a shock
to discover that Mr. Murrow had drained
1095
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:17,660
the water out of the pool.
1096
01:13:20,330 --> 01:13:21,730
Yeah, the Times.
1097
01:13:22,330 --> 01:13:24,650
Hell of a writer.
1098
01:13:24,950 --> 01:13:28,650
We should hire him away from the Times.
Yeah, well, CBS has got a public opinion
1099
01:13:28,650 --> 01:13:35,470
survey here that Elmo Roper put
together. It says 33 % of all
1100
01:13:35,470 --> 01:13:38,370
households believe McCarthy proved
Yorukami.
1101
01:13:38,590 --> 01:13:42,330
Only 33 %? Listen, listen, listen,
listen, listen, listen.
1102
01:13:44,270 --> 01:13:46,570
The Senate is investigating McCarthy.
1103
01:13:54,050 --> 01:13:55,050
Got him.
1104
01:13:57,690 --> 01:13:59,930
Hold on, boys.
1105
01:14:01,390 --> 01:14:03,570
Oh, oh, you'll be all right, Palmer.
1106
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:14,430
We're up there with Howdy Doody. Hold
1107
01:14:14,430 --> 01:14:15,430
on, Ed.
1108
01:14:17,170 --> 01:14:20,050
Somewhere there's music.
1109
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,000
The two.
1110
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,540
Somewhere this heaven.
1111
01:15:20,390 --> 01:15:24,490
One of the best programs I ever heard
was called CBS Views the Press.
1112
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:26,770
A great many people liked it, some
didn't.
1113
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:29,470
But no one would say it was anything but
honest.
1114
01:15:29,690 --> 01:15:31,990
It was the work of an honest reporter,
Don Hollenbeck.
1115
01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:34,430
He also worked occasionally on See It
Now.
1116
01:15:35,190 --> 01:15:37,730
He did the 11 p .m. news over some of
these stations.
1117
01:15:38,710 --> 01:15:41,250
He'd been sick lately, and he died this
morning.
1118
01:15:41,970 --> 01:15:43,630
The police said it was suicide.
1119
01:15:44,710 --> 01:15:45,710
Gas.
1120
01:15:46,730 --> 01:15:47,790
How much of an obit?
1121
01:15:48,940 --> 01:15:51,140
But at least we got our facts straight
and it was brief.
1122
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,640
That's all Don Hollenbeck would have
asked.
1123
01:15:55,420 --> 01:15:57,560
Good night and good luck.
1124
01:17:19,210 --> 01:17:22,010
See it now.
1125
01:17:24,010 --> 01:17:26,010
Yeah. Circulate that memo to 41.
1126
01:17:27,170 --> 01:17:28,850
Yeah. Circulate to Stanton.
1127
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:30,270
Circulate to Fig.
1128
01:17:31,490 --> 01:17:33,050
Everybody gets that memo. Got it?
1129
01:17:35,150 --> 01:17:37,150
Yeah. Sunday, 4 .30.
1130
01:17:37,810 --> 01:17:38,810
Yeah.
1131
01:17:39,310 --> 01:17:40,310
4 .30 Sunday.
1132
01:17:40,730 --> 01:17:42,610
All right.
1133
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:44,350
Yep.
1134
01:17:44,610 --> 01:17:45,610
Yep.
1135
01:17:46,010 --> 01:17:47,010
Thank you.
1136
01:17:53,410 --> 01:17:56,450
Joe, Shirley, can I talk to you both?
1137
01:17:57,230 --> 01:17:58,410
Let's use the editing room.
1138
01:18:03,290 --> 01:18:05,570
Billy, could you excuse us for a minute?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1139
01:18:15,330 --> 01:18:16,330
Shirley?
1140
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:22,640
Fine, Fred.
1141
01:18:27,820 --> 01:18:31,100
Is there a problem, Fred? I want to ask
you both a question.
1142
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:33,960
But I don't want you to answer it.
1143
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,560
Just consider it.
1144
01:18:38,260 --> 01:18:39,620
I know you two are married.
1145
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,880
Everyone knows. That's not my question.
1146
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,060
In the next few weeks...
1147
01:18:50,250 --> 01:18:52,270
I have to lay a couple of people off.
1148
01:18:53,890 --> 01:19:00,090
We're making some significant cuts
across the board. I wanted you to know
1149
01:19:00,090 --> 01:19:06,230
because if you have any intention in the
near future of starting a family,
1150
01:19:06,350 --> 01:19:11,110
I would say to you that you could save
someone else from being fired.
1151
01:19:13,610 --> 01:19:19,410
I'm asking you to consider making this
decision a little easier.
1152
01:19:24,940 --> 01:19:26,320
I don't need an answer now.
1153
01:19:26,940 --> 01:19:28,240
Just think about it.
1154
01:19:40,620 --> 01:19:46,160
Well, this is worse.
1155
01:19:49,220 --> 01:19:51,440
We're really going to miss you around
here, Joe.
1156
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,240
Everybody knew.
1157
01:20:07,820 --> 01:20:14,060
Yeah. But the problem isn't simply that
you lost your sponsor. Even with Alcoa,
1158
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:17,480
CNN still loses money. $50 ,000 last
week's show we did for less than the
1159
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:23,260
We'll find another sponsor. $64 ,000
question. Brings in over 80 ,000 in
1160
01:20:23,260 --> 01:20:25,980
sponsors and it costs a third of what
you do.
1161
01:20:26,180 --> 01:20:32,250
Ed. I've got Tuesday night programming.
It's number one because people just want
1162
01:20:32,250 --> 01:20:35,470
to enjoy themselves. They don't want a
civics lecture.
1163
01:20:35,690 --> 01:20:39,850
What do you want, Bill? Well, I don't
want a constant stomachache every time
1164
01:20:39,850 --> 01:20:42,590
take on a controversial subject.
1165
01:20:43,170 --> 01:20:45,210
That's the price you have to be willing
to pay.
1166
01:20:45,470 --> 01:20:46,470
Careful, Ed.
1167
01:20:47,850 --> 01:20:51,330
Let's walk very carefully through these
next few moments.
1168
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:58,800
The content of what we're doing is more
important than what some sponsor... No,
1169
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:03,640
no, no, what you're doing. Not me, not
CBS. CBS News, see it now, they all
1170
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:04,619
belong to you.
1171
01:21:04,620 --> 01:21:08,960
Well, you wouldn't know it. What is it,
credit that you want? I never censored a
1172
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:10,360
single program.
1173
01:21:10,980 --> 01:21:16,380
No, I kept our affiliates who just
wanted entertainment from us, and I
1174
01:21:16,380 --> 01:21:17,620
keep our license.
1175
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:22,720
With the same politicians you were
working to bring down, and I never said
1176
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,780
you. Not once. I would argue that we
have done well by one another.
1177
01:21:26,060 --> 01:21:29,920
I would argue that this network is
defined by what the new department has
1178
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:34,620
accomplished. I would also argue not
saying no is not the same as not
1179
01:21:35,940 --> 01:21:36,940
Really?
1180
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:39,980
You should teach journalism.
1181
01:21:41,380 --> 01:21:46,000
Well, let me ask you this. Why is it
that you always refer to him as the
1182
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,100
senator from Wisconsin?
1183
01:21:47,550 --> 01:21:49,370
Because he's the junior senator from
Wisconsin.
1184
01:21:51,910 --> 01:21:52,910
Not likely.
1185
01:21:53,970 --> 01:21:55,890
You taunt him, Ed.
1186
01:21:56,370 --> 01:21:58,650
Like a cat with a ball of string.
1187
01:21:59,750 --> 01:22:02,110
But now you see you've opened the door.
1188
01:22:02,650 --> 01:22:04,790
News with a dash of commentary.
1189
01:22:06,450 --> 01:22:09,710
What happens when it isn't Edward R.
1190
01:22:09,930 --> 01:22:11,670
Murrow minding the store?
1191
01:22:16,750 --> 01:22:18,010
What do you want to do, Bill?
1192
01:22:20,210 --> 01:22:25,790
I'm going to take your show from half an
hour to an hour, but it won't be a
1193
01:22:25,790 --> 01:22:28,370
weekly program and it won't be on
Tuesday night.
1194
01:22:29,210 --> 01:22:30,210
When would it be?
1195
01:22:30,290 --> 01:22:32,530
Sunday afternoon.
1196
01:22:35,150 --> 01:22:36,650
How many episodes?
1197
01:22:37,730 --> 01:22:38,730
Five.
1198
01:22:43,690 --> 01:22:45,270
Why don't you just fire me, Bill?
1199
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:53,780
But I don't think it's what either of us
wants You owe me five shows
1200
01:22:53,780 --> 01:23:00,420
You won't subject matter no probably not
1201
01:23:00,420 --> 01:23:07,780
He
1202
01:23:07,780 --> 01:23:11,180
wants me to lay a few people off
1203
01:23:11,180 --> 01:23:15,440
I'm sure
1204
01:23:16,670 --> 01:23:20,210
Let's do the next show about the
downfall of television.
1205
01:23:22,490 --> 01:23:26,830
So if the Senate votes to censure
McCarthy, what happens then?
1206
01:23:28,130 --> 01:23:29,970
He sits in the back row.
1207
01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:33,230
But they don't kick him out. No, he
stays.
1208
01:23:33,570 --> 01:23:36,230
He just loses all of his power.
1209
01:23:36,810 --> 01:23:38,810
He's already lost all of his power.
1210
01:23:40,050 --> 01:23:41,050
Right.
1211
01:23:41,630 --> 01:23:43,470
Now they just teach him a lesson.
1212
01:23:47,980 --> 01:23:51,360
They're moving, see it now, to Sunday
afternoons.
1213
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:55,840
Uh -oh.
1214
01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,060
How many episodes?
1215
01:23:59,580 --> 01:24:00,580
Five.
1216
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,740
Well, might as well go down swinging.
1217
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,940
We'll do the story about the migrant
farm workers. Make a couple of enemies.
1218
01:24:15,530 --> 01:24:18,310
The most trusted man in America is
Milton Berle.
1219
01:24:19,410 --> 01:24:20,410
See?
1220
01:24:21,010 --> 01:24:22,830
Maybe you should have worn a dress.
1221
01:24:24,330 --> 01:24:25,950
My legs are too skinny.
1222
01:24:26,690 --> 01:24:27,870
Feel like a scotch?
1223
01:24:28,510 --> 01:24:29,510
Scotch is good.
1224
01:24:29,970 --> 01:24:32,630
Did you know that Joe and Shirley were
married?
1225
01:24:33,030 --> 01:24:36,210
Sure. Did everyone know?
1226
01:24:37,090 --> 01:24:38,330
Pretty much.
1227
01:24:43,340 --> 01:24:50,140
And if I did, I beg your pardon. Let us
not assassinate this lad further.
1228
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,620
Have you done enough?
1229
01:24:52,860 --> 01:24:56,640
Have you no sense of decency, sir?
1230
01:24:56,900 --> 01:25:01,740
At long last, have you left no sense of
decency?
1231
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,160
I know this hurts you, Mr. Wells.
1232
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:06,400
Senator,
1233
01:25:09,980 --> 01:25:11,440
I think it hurts you too, sir.
1234
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:17,060
I'd like to finish this. Mr. McCarthy, I
will not discuss this further with you.
1235
01:25:17,100 --> 01:25:22,960
You have sat within six feet of me and
could have asked me about Fred Fisher.
1236
01:25:23,380 --> 01:25:25,440
You have seen fit to bring it out.
1237
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:32,500
And if there is a God in heaven, it will
do neither you nor your cause any good.
1238
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,000
I will not discuss it further.
1239
01:25:35,220 --> 01:25:38,140
I will not ask Mr. Cohen any more
witnesses.
1240
01:25:38,660 --> 01:25:42,840
You, Mr. Chairman, may, if you will,
call the next witness.
1241
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,100
Are there any questions that come from
the members of the chair?
1242
01:25:54,240 --> 01:26:00,740
I begin by saying our history will be
what we make of it.
1243
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:07,420
as we are, then history will take its
revenge and retribution will not limp in
1244
01:26:07,420 --> 01:26:08,420
catching up with us.
1245
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,640
Just once in a while, let us exalt the
importance of ideas and information.
1246
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:20,020
Let us dream to the extent of saying
that on a given Sunday night, the time
1247
01:26:20,020 --> 01:26:25,120
normally used by Ed Sullivan is given
over to a clinical survey on the state
1248
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,320
American education.
1249
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,220
And a week or two later, the time
normally used by Steve Allen.
1250
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,800
is devoted to a thoroughgoing study of
American policies in the Middle East.
1251
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,120
Would the corporate image of their
respective sponsors be damaged?
1252
01:26:41,380 --> 01:26:44,840
Would the stockholders rise up in their
wrath and complain?
1253
01:26:46,220 --> 01:26:49,940
Would anything happen other than a few
million people would have received a
1254
01:26:49,940 --> 01:26:52,920
little illumination on subjects that may
well determine the future of this
1255
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:53,920
country?
1256
01:26:55,620 --> 01:26:59,860
To those who say people wouldn't look,
they wouldn't be interested, they're
1257
01:26:59,860 --> 01:27:00,860
too...
1258
01:27:00,969 --> 01:27:04,170
complacent, indifferent, insulated.
1259
01:27:05,670 --> 01:27:10,990
I can only reply there is, in one
reporter's opinion, considerable
1260
01:27:10,990 --> 01:27:15,390
against that contention. But even if
they are right, what have they got to
1261
01:27:16,710 --> 01:27:20,050
Because if they are right and these
instruments are good for nothing but to
1262
01:27:20,050 --> 01:27:25,750
entertain and amuse and insulate, then
the tube is flickering now.
1263
01:27:26,490 --> 01:27:29,710
And we will soon see that the whole
struggle is lost.
1264
01:27:38,410 --> 01:27:41,410
Ladies and gentlemen, here he is, Pat
Stalino. Good evening, I'm Mike Waller.
1265
01:27:41,470 --> 01:27:44,950
This is a program of fact, news,
information, and observation.
1266
01:27:45,210 --> 01:27:49,770
Thank you very much. Now is the time to
make real the promises of democracy.
1267
01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:54,030
Our goal is not the victory of might.
From Dallas, Texas. But the vindication
1268
01:27:54,030 --> 01:28:00,670
right. The flash, apparently official,
President Kennedy died at 1 p .m.
1269
01:28:00,670 --> 01:28:01,670
Standard Time.
1270
01:28:04,410 --> 01:28:07,250
Socket to me, socket to me, socket to
me, socket to me.
1271
01:28:10,220 --> 01:28:14,320
Here at Kent State University to find a
name. The President's a crook. Well, I'm
1272
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:18,560
not a crook. The Space Shuttle
Challenger has exploded. Mr. Gorbachev,
1273
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,960
this wall. It doesn't fit. If it doesn't
fit, you must exist. You're supposed to
1274
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,780
be married in three weeks. What are you
doing living here?
1275
01:28:26,300 --> 01:28:28,580
You are not the father.
1276
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:30,740
Weapons of mass destruction.
1277
01:28:31,060 --> 01:28:33,000
Get rolled by the Bush administration.
1278
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:34,280
He's got him. He's got him.
1279
01:28:34,460 --> 01:28:36,520
This isn't the World Trade Center.
1280
01:28:37,790 --> 01:28:40,210
What exactly happened on 9 -11?
1281
01:28:40,470 --> 01:28:44,190
Conspiracy theories continue to saturate
the internet. Terrorist. He was wearing
1282
01:28:44,190 --> 01:28:45,190
this tan suit.
1283
01:28:45,610 --> 01:28:48,210
Santa just is white. The big lie.
1284
01:28:48,850 --> 01:28:53,850
Companies called Dominion. Another in a
series of stolen elections. President
1285
01:28:53,850 --> 01:28:55,550
Biden has a photographic memory.
1286
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:57,920
Totally focused. He's very sharp in
meetings.
1287
01:28:58,500 --> 01:29:03,860
Alternative facts to that. FBI
operatives were organizing the attack on
1288
01:29:03,860 --> 01:29:06,720
Capitol. FBI had 26 of their people on
the inside.
1289
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:08,240
False flag operation.
1290
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:12,800
Millions of dollars in apologizing to
the federal defamation lawsuit. AP
1291
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:16,360
reporter was barred from an Oval Office
event. Also from Air Force One. Has
1292
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:22,200
barred the Associated Press. The United
States has retracted. A false story
1293
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,160
about a Democratic ambassador is
extremely dangerous.
1294
01:29:35,139 --> 01:29:38,560
Please raise your right hand and repeat
after me.
1295
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:19,440
These instruments can teach, they can
illuminate, they can
1296
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:20,440
even inspire.
1297
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:27,040
But they can do so only to the extent
that humans are determined to use them
1298
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:28,040
those ends.
1299
01:30:28,300 --> 01:30:31,840
Otherwise, they're merely wires and
lights in a box.
1300
01:30:34,180 --> 01:30:39,860
There is a great and perhaps decisive
battle to be fought.
1301
01:30:41,870 --> 01:30:47,850
Against ignorance, intolerance,
indifference.
1302
01:30:51,110 --> 01:30:53,670
It's a fight for the very soul of this
republic.
1303
01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:58,350
And so the question is a very simple
one.
1304
01:30:59,850 --> 01:31:02,670
Not what power unchecked can do.
1305
01:31:03,030 --> 01:31:04,690
We have seen that answer.
1306
01:31:06,070 --> 01:31:07,070
No.
1307
01:31:08,970 --> 01:31:10,350
The question is,
1308
01:31:12,340 --> 01:31:14,340
What are you prepared to do?
1309
01:31:41,710 --> 01:31:43,310
The fault, dear Brutus.
1310
01:31:53,030 --> 01:31:54,030
Good night.
1311
01:31:54,710 --> 01:31:55,710
And good luck.
1312
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,480
Let's get away from the law.
1313
01:33:17,260 --> 01:33:20,680
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1316
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,840
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01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,100
nominated for his performance in this
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01:33:33,420 --> 01:33:36,520
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01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:39,960
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01:33:40,220 --> 01:33:43,080
We're about a mile away from the Winter
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01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,740
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01:33:46,440 --> 01:33:48,120
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01:33:48,500 --> 01:33:52,280
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01:33:55,480 --> 01:33:57,840
parallels to what Murrow faced as well.
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01:33:58,100 --> 01:34:01,240
I'm joined here by a panel of renowned
journalists and writers from the world
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01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:02,960
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1328
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:06,900
I'll also talk exclusively with the
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1329
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:10,140
the longtime 60 Minutes correspondent,
Scott Pelley, about why he's there with
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01:34:10,140 --> 01:34:11,280
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1331
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,480
And we've got CBS and his ongoing legal
battle with President Trump.
1332
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,480
With me right now, Walter Isaacson,
professor of history at Tulane
1333
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,360
former CEO of CNN. He actually hired me.
1334
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,780
He's also the author of numerous
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01:34:25,780 --> 01:34:27,320
Steve Jobs, Elon Musk, and others.
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01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:31,280
Also here, Connie Chung, former co
-anchor of the CBS Evening News. She was
1337
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:35,100
an anchor here at CNN, as well as ABC
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book, Connie.
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