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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.CO 1 00:00:31,396 --> 00:00:34,359 Hey, Pete, I think I got something. 2 00:00:34,394 --> 00:00:36,091 You better call it in. 3 00:00:42,823 --> 00:00:44,158 Agent Eppes? 4 00:00:44,193 --> 00:00:45,729 Yeah. 5 00:00:46,457 --> 00:00:48,058 - David Sinclair. - How you doing? 6 00:00:48,093 --> 00:00:50,242 John Reacher. I'm with the bureau's security division. 7 00:00:50,277 --> 00:00:53,427 Victim was a computer science researcher for a private think tank. 8 00:00:53,462 --> 00:00:56,107 High-level national security clearance. 9 00:00:56,692 --> 00:00:58,283 Who's that? 10 00:00:58,318 --> 00:01:01,297 This is Robert Oliver. 11 00:01:01,332 --> 00:01:03,048 He's the CEO of the Lorman group. 12 00:01:03,083 --> 00:01:04,404 How are you? Don Eppes, FBI. 13 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:05,586 Hi. 14 00:01:05,621 --> 00:01:07,708 - The Lorman group is the think tank? - That's right. 15 00:01:07,743 --> 00:01:10,902 They have a number of contracts with us for classified government projects. 16 00:01:10,938 --> 00:01:12,963 So the victim was one of your employees? 17 00:01:12,998 --> 00:01:16,467 Yes. Uh, Dr. Hoke was one of our senior researchers. 18 00:01:16,502 --> 00:01:18,459 - I'll check on the body. - All right. 19 00:01:18,983 --> 00:01:22,246 Any reason to think the murder had anything to do with the work he was doing for you? 20 00:01:22,281 --> 00:01:23,948 It's possible. 21 00:01:25,813 --> 00:01:27,760 Those bureau techs? 22 00:01:27,795 --> 00:01:29,509 No, they're with my company. 23 00:01:29,544 --> 00:01:31,079 What are you doing? They're civilians. 24 00:01:31,114 --> 00:01:33,325 They have security clearance. 25 00:01:35,424 --> 00:01:37,846 Gentlemen, back away from that computer. 26 00:01:38,102 --> 00:01:40,342 Agent Eppes, can I talk to you for a minute? 27 00:01:41,923 --> 00:01:44,625 I have an obligation to secure the contents of Dr. Hoke's computer. 28 00:01:44,660 --> 00:01:46,832 Well, I got an obligation to investigate a murder, 29 00:01:46,867 --> 00:01:50,550 and whatever these guys are doing, they're contaminating my crime scene. 30 00:01:50,812 --> 00:01:52,027 - Your crime scene? - That's right. 31 00:01:52,062 --> 00:01:53,208 Unless there's something I don't know, 32 00:01:53,243 --> 00:01:57,052 my homicide investigation's gonna take priority over your security concerns. 33 00:01:57,087 --> 00:01:58,815 Don. 34 00:02:01,203 --> 00:02:02,690 We've got multiple stab wounds. 35 00:02:02,726 --> 00:02:06,546 The coroner's investigator says he's been dead for almost two days. 36 00:02:07,233 --> 00:02:11,085 What was that about? / He was gonna let those guys take data off that computer. 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,095 Well, I think somebody beat them to it. 38 00:02:13,130 --> 00:02:15,123 According to what I heard, the files were already erased. 39 00:02:15,158 --> 00:02:17,116 All right, we're gonna start with that. Nobody touches it. 40 00:02:17,152 --> 00:02:18,933 All right? Let's get our people on it immediately. 41 00:02:18,968 --> 00:02:20,767 All right. Adam, Carter. 42 00:02:55,629 --> 00:02:57,207 Okay, well, the first thing is, 43 00:02:57,243 --> 00:02:59,564 whoever wiped the information off of this hard drive 44 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,887 - didn't make a copy of it. - You sure about that? 45 00:03:01,923 --> 00:03:03,241 Absolutely. 46 00:03:03,276 --> 00:03:05,637 Hoke had an event log on his computer. 47 00:03:05,672 --> 00:03:07,964 Recorded the wipe, but no duplication. 48 00:03:07,999 --> 00:03:11,210 And whoever did do the wipe knew exactly what they were doing. 49 00:03:11,245 --> 00:03:13,976 This code's been flipped hundreds of thousands of times. 50 00:03:14,012 --> 00:03:15,276 Wait. Define flipped. 51 00:03:15,311 --> 00:03:17,560 A computer's language boils down to binary code. 52 00:03:17,595 --> 00:03:21,364 Every bit of information is a specific sequence of zeroes and ones, 53 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,794 like coins, all heads or tails. 54 00:03:23,829 --> 00:03:25,895 When you wipe the data, you don't really erase it. 55 00:03:25,930 --> 00:03:27,927 You just start flipping the coins back and forth. 56 00:03:27,962 --> 00:03:32,006 That destroys the code and renders the information pretty much unintelligible. 57 00:03:32,041 --> 00:03:35,021 Now, mind you, we're talking about binary code, 58 00:03:35,056 --> 00:03:38,000 which is millions upon millions of zeroes and ones. 59 00:03:38,035 --> 00:03:39,890 In order to recreate the data, 60 00:03:39,925 --> 00:03:42,506 I need to reconstruct the original sequence of the code. 61 00:03:42,541 --> 00:03:44,405 To flip it back to the way it was originally. 62 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,784 Try to. 63 00:03:45,819 --> 00:03:49,351 But as you said, you're talking about millions and millions of numbers. 64 00:03:49,386 --> 00:03:52,884 Now the program that was used to flip Hoke's code left a pattern behind. 65 00:03:52,919 --> 00:03:54,216 If I can find it, 66 00:03:54,251 --> 00:03:58,177 I can reverse engineer the program and reconstruct the original sequence. 67 00:03:58,212 --> 00:04:01,093 Give it a shot. Let me know if you find anything. 68 00:04:03,586 --> 00:04:05,921 Hey. 69 00:04:05,956 --> 00:04:08,480 Jonas Hoke was an applied physicist. 70 00:04:08,516 --> 00:04:11,980 Lived alone, no kids, and from everything I've heard so far, 71 00:04:12,016 --> 00:04:13,491 totally devoted to his work. 72 00:04:13,526 --> 00:04:16,473 He was in the middle of a divorce. Wife left him a few months ago. 73 00:04:16,508 --> 00:04:18,151 Oh, yeah? Any history there? 74 00:04:18,186 --> 00:04:22,884 No police reports, no 911 calls. Neighbors say he was a quiet, friendly guy. 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,429 Yeah, who somehow wound up being butchered in his own house. 76 00:04:25,464 --> 00:04:28,029 House ransacked. You've got multiple stab wounds. 77 00:04:28,064 --> 00:04:30,315 Alarm tripped. 78 00:04:30,464 --> 00:04:32,411 Not really the M.O. of a professional killer. 79 00:04:32,446 --> 00:04:34,673 Why is the alarm tripped on the night the body's discovered, 80 00:04:34,708 --> 00:04:38,493 as opposed to two days earlier, when the guy's actually murdered? 81 00:04:38,690 --> 00:04:41,286 There's no evidence the body was ever moved. 82 00:04:41,321 --> 00:04:44,015 Yeah, the neighbors don't report seeing anyone else in the area. 83 00:04:44,050 --> 00:04:48,444 Still, the house being ransacked suggests somebody was searching for something. 84 00:04:48,479 --> 00:04:51,446 Well, whoever wiped that file knew what to look for, that's for sure. 85 00:04:51,481 --> 00:04:53,868 You think they trashed the house on a ruse? 86 00:04:53,903 --> 00:04:56,399 Make it look like an amateur? 87 00:04:58,523 --> 00:04:59,691 Why don't you go check out the wife? 88 00:04:59,726 --> 00:05:02,366 I'm gonna talk to Reacher about the Lorman connection. 89 00:05:02,725 --> 00:05:06,717 Mrs. Hoke, I understand there was a dispute over the money involved in the separation. 90 00:05:06,752 --> 00:05:11,232 I guess we both valued our time together a little differently. 91 00:05:11,376 --> 00:05:13,868 Maybe it was because he was angry I left, I don't know, 92 00:05:13,903 --> 00:05:18,375 but Jonas felt it appropriate that I leave the marriage with what I came to it with. 93 00:05:18,410 --> 00:05:22,485 I wanted to ask him for the 12 years back, but I didn't know how. 94 00:05:22,521 --> 00:05:25,081 When was the last time you spoke to your husband? 95 00:05:25,116 --> 00:05:27,089 A few weeks ago. 96 00:05:27,124 --> 00:05:29,523 He was late with a separation check. 97 00:05:29,558 --> 00:05:31,877 He'd do that, forget. 98 00:05:31,912 --> 00:05:35,764 Sometimes I wondered if it was intentional. 99 00:05:36,275 --> 00:05:40,488 Mrs. Hoke, I have to ask you, where were you on the 14th? 100 00:05:40,523 --> 00:05:43,577 Right, I understand. 101 00:05:43,612 --> 00:05:45,363 As it happens, I was at home. 102 00:05:45,398 --> 00:05:47,759 Any witnesses who can verify that? 103 00:05:48,341 --> 00:05:50,342 Lucas Grodin. 104 00:05:50,377 --> 00:05:52,344 He is a friend. 105 00:05:54,644 --> 00:05:56,568 I don't expect you to understand. 106 00:05:56,603 --> 00:05:58,458 I'm not judging you, Mrs. Hoke. 107 00:05:58,493 --> 00:06:00,200 I'm just trying to take your statement. 108 00:06:02,884 --> 00:06:03,916 So your tech's sure 109 00:06:03,951 --> 00:06:06,820 whoever it was who wiped Hoke's files from the hard drive, they didn't make a copy? 110 00:06:06,855 --> 00:06:09,647 That's right. Apparently, it was erased, but not duplicated. 111 00:06:09,682 --> 00:06:11,958 My bosses will be happy to hear that. 112 00:06:11,993 --> 00:06:14,256 You know, you guys... 113 00:06:14,292 --> 00:06:17,791 you ought to remind your bosses that a man was murdered over this, you know? 114 00:06:17,827 --> 00:06:19,349 I didn't mean it the way it sounded. 115 00:06:19,385 --> 00:06:20,599 Look... 116 00:06:20,634 --> 00:06:24,317 what exactly did Hoke do for the Lorman group? 117 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,581 The company had a contract with the defense department for a new computer system, 118 00:06:29,616 --> 00:06:32,545 one that could better interpret global satellite imaging. 119 00:06:32,580 --> 00:06:35,972 So so new that someone would kill over it? 120 00:06:36,382 --> 00:06:39,919 It's pretty sensitive stuff, but a motive for murder? 121 00:06:39,954 --> 00:06:41,417 I don't know. 122 00:06:45,380 --> 00:06:46,360 Hey. 123 00:06:46,395 --> 00:06:48,584 So Hoke was working on a DOD contract 124 00:06:48,619 --> 00:06:51,208 for a computer program that interprets satellite images. 125 00:06:51,243 --> 00:06:52,838 Remote sensing. 126 00:06:53,031 --> 00:06:56,756 It's a process that scans electromagnetic signatures from the earth's surface. 127 00:06:56,791 --> 00:07:02,119 It was used to detect prehistoric Incan paths to sacred burial sites. 128 00:07:02,154 --> 00:07:06,171 Hoke was probably developing it to read roadside bombs or ruts from tanks. 129 00:07:06,206 --> 00:07:07,330 Why didn't you tell me you found this? 130 00:07:07,365 --> 00:07:10,405 Because that data wasn't the focus of the hard drive wipe. 131 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,322 All right. What was? 132 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,081 Say I want to hide what I've written. 133 00:07:22,162 --> 00:07:24,137 Have I hidden it? 134 00:07:30,566 --> 00:07:34,647 Exactly. The impression runs deeper than the one sheet I've written it on. 135 00:07:34,682 --> 00:07:38,362 Now, if I really wanted to conceal it, I would do this. 136 00:07:51,559 --> 00:07:55,028 Hoke's remote sensing work was erased with the equivalent of a magic marker, 137 00:07:55,063 --> 00:07:59,090 but this section here was scribbled out with a data scrubber, 138 00:07:59,125 --> 00:08:00,767 the equivalent of a pencil. 139 00:08:00,802 --> 00:08:03,508 On the surface, it renders the computer code meaningless, 140 00:08:03,543 --> 00:08:06,517 but here there are magnetic shadows underneath, 141 00:08:06,552 --> 00:08:09,491 pieces of data left behind that I was able to find. 142 00:08:09,526 --> 00:08:11,152 All right, tell me. 143 00:08:11,187 --> 00:08:12,289 Numbers. 144 00:08:12,324 --> 00:08:15,730 Specifically, like, baseball statistics. 145 00:08:15,765 --> 00:08:17,072 Baseball statistics? 146 00:08:17,107 --> 00:08:19,105 Batting averages, on-base percentages. 147 00:08:19,140 --> 00:08:19,997 I mean, as far as I can tell, 148 00:08:20,032 --> 00:08:23,705 Hoke was developing a pretty sophisticated application of sabermetrics, 149 00:08:23,740 --> 00:08:26,482 which places numerical values on specific skills, 150 00:08:26,517 --> 00:08:29,765 like home runs, hits, walks. 151 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,907 A lot of teams use sabermetrics to identify the best way to allocate their resources. 152 00:08:33,942 --> 00:08:36,272 Yeah. What was that book about the... 153 00:08:36,307 --> 00:08:37,966 - It was the Oakland A's GM. - Money ball. 154 00:08:38,002 --> 00:08:39,638 - Yeah, money ball. - Right. 155 00:08:39,673 --> 00:08:41,967 Only Hoke was taking his formulas to a whole new level, 156 00:08:42,002 --> 00:08:45,372 attempting to predict player performance based on statistical curves. 157 00:08:45,408 --> 00:08:48,334 All right, so... why erase baseball stats? 158 00:08:48,369 --> 00:08:49,571 And why kill over it? 159 00:08:49,606 --> 00:08:51,280 I have no idea. 160 00:08:51,315 --> 00:08:54,460 But I might be able to use a predictive equation to rebuild the missing data, 161 00:08:54,495 --> 00:08:57,159 like detecting the original lines here, 162 00:08:57,194 --> 00:08:59,168 and guessing at what letters they could make. 163 00:08:59,203 --> 00:09:01,964 Right. Well, I mean, we got to know what they were trying to hide. 164 00:09:06,518 --> 00:09:10,034 Obviously, it was quite a shock to hear about Jonas. 165 00:09:10,373 --> 00:09:12,689 To see him like that. 166 00:09:12,818 --> 00:09:14,816 I'm sure. I'm sorry for your loss. 167 00:09:14,851 --> 00:09:17,201 Yeah. We'd worked together for quite a while. 168 00:09:17,236 --> 00:09:20,724 Well, I'm gonna need to get a consultant in to access Dr. Hoke's computer. 169 00:09:20,759 --> 00:09:22,942 Well, I don't see a problem. 170 00:09:28,085 --> 00:09:30,836 So this is Dr. Hoke's office. 171 00:09:30,871 --> 00:09:33,731 This is Scott Reynolds. He's Dr. Hoke's research assistant. 172 00:09:33,766 --> 00:09:35,706 Has anything else been touched in this office? 173 00:09:35,741 --> 00:09:38,937 Uh, no. Uh, agent Reacher told us to leave everything in place. 174 00:09:38,972 --> 00:09:40,176 What are you doing on this computer? 175 00:09:40,211 --> 00:09:42,409 Just checking e-mails, general housekeeping. 176 00:09:42,444 --> 00:09:44,956 Well, I'd appreciate it if you did that someplace else for the time being. 177 00:09:44,992 --> 00:09:46,238 Okay. 178 00:09:46,273 --> 00:09:47,945 You worked with Dr. Hoke on a daily basis? 179 00:09:47,980 --> 00:09:49,130 Yeah. 180 00:09:49,165 --> 00:09:51,185 You remember what you were doing on the 14th? 181 00:09:51,221 --> 00:09:53,330 Uh, it was a Tuesday? 182 00:09:53,365 --> 00:09:54,981 Um, he came in that Monday, 183 00:09:55,016 --> 00:09:58,983 and then I didn't hear from him again till Mr. Oliver called me and told me what happened. 184 00:09:59,019 --> 00:10:01,868 Well, he was missing for two days. Wasn't that a little unusual? 185 00:10:01,903 --> 00:10:04,717 No, he would stay home from the office three, four days at a time. 186 00:10:04,752 --> 00:10:07,869 Scott's right. Jonas could get lost in his work. 187 00:10:07,904 --> 00:10:10,987 Was Dr. Hoke a fan of baseball, by any chance? 188 00:10:11,022 --> 00:10:12,579 - Baseball? - Yeah. 189 00:10:12,614 --> 00:10:14,101 Oh, I'm not sure. 190 00:10:14,136 --> 00:10:17,663 Uh, he never went to any games or anything, if that's what you mean. 191 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,429 Why do you ask? 192 00:10:19,464 --> 00:10:21,137 It's just a little survey I'm doing. 193 00:10:21,172 --> 00:10:24,089 You gentlemen are gonna have to leave this office. 194 00:10:27,485 --> 00:10:29,310 Well, apparently, Hoke wasn't that into baseball. 195 00:10:29,345 --> 00:10:32,301 I mean, there's no autographed balls, no sports memorabilia whatsoever. 196 00:10:32,336 --> 00:10:35,258 So whatever his interest, as far as I could tell, it wasn't personal. 197 00:10:35,293 --> 00:10:37,854 Maybe he was interested in sabermetrics as a hobby? 198 00:10:37,889 --> 00:10:40,021 Well, it doesn't seem like that should get you stabbed to death. 199 00:10:40,056 --> 00:10:41,602 How are you doing on recreating his data? 200 00:10:41,637 --> 00:10:45,148 I've been running the corrupted files through a series of algorithms on my computer. 201 00:10:45,183 --> 00:10:46,470 All right, well, as soon as you find anything, 202 00:10:46,506 --> 00:10:49,183 let me know, because I want to get you out here and look at his computer, all right? 203 00:10:49,218 --> 00:10:52,229 All right, well, I'm actually on my way to give a lecture right now, 204 00:10:52,264 --> 00:10:55,203 but sure, afterwards, any way I can help. 205 00:10:55,238 --> 00:10:56,958 All right, good, thanks, Charlie. 206 00:10:57,851 --> 00:11:01,035 Now, did I just hear you say the word "sabermetrics"? 207 00:11:01,070 --> 00:11:02,228 Familiar with it? 208 00:11:02,263 --> 00:11:05,389 The "money ball" craze? Oh, yes, I'm familiar with it. 209 00:11:05,424 --> 00:11:07,106 I take it you don't approve. 210 00:11:07,909 --> 00:11:11,878 Well, the notion that human achievement on a baseball diamond 211 00:11:11,913 --> 00:11:15,846 can be predicted through the application of statistical analysis 212 00:11:15,881 --> 00:11:19,326 is, at it's very core, highly problematic. 213 00:11:19,361 --> 00:11:22,108 Even if the skill can be statistically measured? 214 00:11:22,143 --> 00:11:26,707 Yes, because, Charles, the human spirit is immeasurable. 215 00:11:26,742 --> 00:11:28,846 You know, our brains aren't just these machines. 216 00:11:28,881 --> 00:11:31,319 There's a lot of either/or going on here. 217 00:11:31,354 --> 00:11:33,877 Yes, statistical probability is a wonderful tool, 218 00:11:33,912 --> 00:11:37,980 but applied to human performance, it's only an extrapolation of the past. 219 00:11:38,015 --> 00:11:42,090 Still there are a number of baseball teams that use sabermetrics to determine who to pay. 220 00:11:42,125 --> 00:11:46,127 As a Dodger fan, I'm all too painfully aware of that fact, 221 00:11:46,162 --> 00:11:49,077 but I'm also aware that in a statistical model, 222 00:11:49,112 --> 00:11:51,013 the Red sox never beat the Yankees. 223 00:11:51,048 --> 00:11:52,914 Ah, there are exceptions to every rule. 224 00:11:52,949 --> 00:11:55,417 Yes, and aren't they glorious? 225 00:11:55,453 --> 00:11:59,137 Now, why is Don even asking you about statistical baseball analysis? 226 00:11:59,172 --> 00:12:01,941 A researcher was found murdered. 227 00:12:01,976 --> 00:12:04,579 Wait, are we talking about Jonas Hoke? 228 00:12:04,730 --> 00:12:06,677 You knew him? 229 00:12:06,712 --> 00:12:08,590 He, yeah. 230 00:12:08,625 --> 00:12:12,339 We were doctoral students together. Well, not together, but at the same time. 231 00:12:12,374 --> 00:12:14,264 He just... I don't know. 232 00:12:14,299 --> 00:12:16,119 There's that old saying. 233 00:12:16,154 --> 00:12:19,300 "Applied physicists are from Venus, theoretical physicists..." 234 00:12:19,335 --> 00:12:21,157 "wonder why it rotates in the opposite direction." 235 00:12:21,192 --> 00:12:22,861 There you go. 236 00:12:22,896 --> 00:12:25,330 No, our department was informed of his passing 237 00:12:25,365 --> 00:12:27,431 and the planned memorial service. 238 00:12:27,466 --> 00:12:29,118 - I'm sorry. - Well, 239 00:12:29,153 --> 00:12:31,749 the book doesn't always work, Charles, 240 00:12:31,784 --> 00:12:36,005 and numbers can't always account for the way life turns out. 241 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,581 Well, I mean, just ask Jonas Hoke. 242 00:12:43,341 --> 00:12:44,563 What do you say, David? 243 00:12:44,598 --> 00:12:46,832 Hey. Anything at the Lorman group? 244 00:12:46,868 --> 00:12:49,483 Well, Hoke didn't show up for work for two days, and he wasn't missed. 245 00:12:49,518 --> 00:12:52,431 That's either very sad, or that's a really good job. 246 00:12:52,466 --> 00:12:53,939 Yeah? Seemed odd to me. 247 00:12:53,974 --> 00:12:57,676 Well, guess who had a $2 million insurance policy. 248 00:12:58,535 --> 00:13:00,379 What? The good Dr. Hoke? 249 00:13:00,414 --> 00:13:02,502 And guess who the beneficiary is? 250 00:13:02,537 --> 00:13:03,980 - Not the wife. - Yep. 251 00:13:04,015 --> 00:13:06,458 Turns out the divorce was nastier than we thought. 252 00:13:06,493 --> 00:13:08,754 Major issue being Hoke's potential earnings. 253 00:13:08,789 --> 00:13:10,981 Apparently, he didn't want to give her any. 254 00:13:11,016 --> 00:13:13,700 So she takes him out and gets the money she's entitled to? 255 00:13:13,736 --> 00:13:17,225 Then she's free and single again. 256 00:13:17,898 --> 00:13:19,459 He's her alibi the night of the murder. 257 00:13:19,494 --> 00:13:21,404 Arrested in '84. 258 00:13:21,439 --> 00:13:23,279 Assault and battery. 259 00:13:23,314 --> 00:13:27,134 I guess she figured Hoke was worth more dead than alive. 260 00:13:32,248 --> 00:13:34,962 I was twenty years old. I got in a fight with a guy at a bar. 261 00:13:34,997 --> 00:13:38,225 Two years probation, believe me, I learned my lesson. 262 00:13:38,261 --> 00:13:39,407 Which was what? 263 00:13:39,443 --> 00:13:41,590 Don't leave any witnesses behind the next time? 264 00:13:41,625 --> 00:13:43,525 You have some imagination. 265 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:44,600 We do. 266 00:13:44,635 --> 00:13:45,821 How about you imagining this? 267 00:13:45,856 --> 00:13:48,084 Gail Hoke's in the middle of a bad divorce, right? 268 00:13:48,119 --> 00:13:49,768 I mean, it really isn't going well. 269 00:13:49,803 --> 00:13:54,243 On the other hand, a dead husband pays out on a $2 million insurance policy. 270 00:13:54,278 --> 00:13:56,881 Wonder how many of these you'd have to work to make up that. 271 00:13:56,916 --> 00:13:59,304 And killing Jonas helps me how? 272 00:13:59,339 --> 00:14:02,284 Because maybe Gail will give me some of her insurance settlement? 273 00:14:02,319 --> 00:14:05,934 Well, with him out of the way, she's free to marry again. 274 00:14:06,583 --> 00:14:09,731 Gail and I like each other. Maybe it's even more than that, 275 00:14:09,766 --> 00:14:12,895 but neither one of us has ever talked about marriage. 276 00:14:12,931 --> 00:14:14,143 All right. 277 00:14:14,178 --> 00:14:15,845 We'll be in touch. 278 00:14:17,667 --> 00:14:19,629 Gail Hoke wasn't over her ex-husband. 279 00:14:19,664 --> 00:14:21,557 I got that much from both of them. 280 00:14:21,592 --> 00:14:23,273 Well, doesn't mean she didn't kill him. 281 00:14:23,308 --> 00:14:26,824 Yeah, but I got the feeling she wasn't willing to admit the marriage was over. 282 00:14:26,859 --> 00:14:28,955 She was thinking about going back to him. 283 00:14:28,990 --> 00:14:29,992 How'd you get that? 284 00:14:30,027 --> 00:14:32,715 Kind of reminded me of my sister Linda when she got divorced. 285 00:14:32,750 --> 00:14:36,779 Moved out, got her own place, sat around waiting for her ex to call 286 00:14:36,814 --> 00:14:39,023 instead of getting out and getting on with her life. 287 00:14:39,058 --> 00:14:40,951 Did he call? 288 00:14:41,842 --> 00:14:44,007 Yeah, and she went back to him. 289 00:14:44,042 --> 00:14:45,656 I always thought she could've done better, you know, 290 00:14:45,691 --> 00:14:48,055 just given herself a chance. Thanks. 291 00:14:48,090 --> 00:14:49,381 Yeah? 292 00:14:49,416 --> 00:14:51,129 Yeah. Knucklehead, you know. 293 00:14:52,842 --> 00:14:55,647 Hello. I'm sorry. I have pretty specific instructions. 294 00:14:55,682 --> 00:14:57,193 No one's supposed to use this computer. 295 00:14:57,228 --> 00:14:58,705 Oh, I'm sorry. You must be Scott. / Yeah. 296 00:14:58,740 --> 00:14:59,929 I'm professor Charlie Eppes. 297 00:14:59,964 --> 00:15:01,476 Oh, I'm the, um, yeah, 298 00:15:01,511 --> 00:15:03,449 - I'm the FBI consultant. - Oh, all right. 299 00:15:03,484 --> 00:15:05,387 Yeah, Mr. Oliver said you were coming. 300 00:15:05,422 --> 00:15:07,043 I was told that, uh, 301 00:15:07,078 --> 00:15:10,306 none of Dr. Hoke's work was to be touched before I got here. 302 00:15:10,341 --> 00:15:12,276 No, all that stuff's mine. 303 00:15:12,311 --> 00:15:14,177 - Oh, you're leaving. - Yeah. 304 00:15:14,212 --> 00:15:18,131 Well, they probably would have offered me another position here, 305 00:15:18,166 --> 00:15:21,267 but Dr. Hoke was kind of, kind of a mentor to me, 306 00:15:21,302 --> 00:15:24,333 and you work that closely with someone, it's hard. 307 00:15:24,368 --> 00:15:27,094 I can imagine. I work pretty closely with someone myself. 308 00:15:27,129 --> 00:15:29,213 He always wanted me to go back to school, 309 00:15:29,249 --> 00:15:31,243 finish my dissertation, so... 310 00:15:31,278 --> 00:15:33,406 - thinking now I will... - That's great. 311 00:15:33,441 --> 00:15:35,774 - What's your field? - Econometrics, 312 00:15:35,809 --> 00:15:38,079 specializing in economic statistics. 313 00:15:38,114 --> 00:15:40,315 Yeah, that's exactly what my dad said 314 00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:44,150 when I told him I was gonna borrow 30 grand a year to pay for it. 315 00:15:44,185 --> 00:15:46,216 He's like, "you don't make money by studying it." 316 00:15:46,251 --> 00:15:49,748 Mathematics can be much more lucrative than most fathers think. 317 00:15:49,783 --> 00:15:52,897 Yeah, but I want to do something with it. 318 00:15:52,932 --> 00:15:56,011 You know, make a difference in the world. 319 00:15:56,046 --> 00:15:57,120 That's really admirable. 320 00:15:57,155 --> 00:16:02,896 Well, because people, they assume that the economy's this adversarial relationship, 321 00:16:02,931 --> 00:16:06,729 where one person's gain, by definition, has to be another person's loss. 322 00:16:06,764 --> 00:16:08,878 But it doesn't have to be that way. 323 00:16:08,913 --> 00:16:10,959 There can be gains for everyone. 324 00:16:10,994 --> 00:16:12,613 - I'm sure you're right. - No, I know I am. 325 00:16:12,648 --> 00:16:16,798 It's all there in the numbers, if anyone would just bother to look. 326 00:16:16,833 --> 00:16:18,127 Ah, I think I know just how you feel. 327 00:16:18,162 --> 00:16:20,452 Well, if you need me for anything, just let me know. 328 00:16:20,487 --> 00:16:22,383 Hey, Scott. 329 00:16:22,418 --> 00:16:26,389 Is there any reason that Dr. Hoke would've been working on, like... 330 00:16:26,424 --> 00:16:27,877 baseball formulas? 331 00:16:27,912 --> 00:16:31,908 Yeah, you know, the other FBI agent asked me that same thing about baseball. 332 00:16:31,944 --> 00:16:34,665 I told him Dr. Hoke never mentioned it. 333 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:39,232 Yeah. Any backup files, any other workstation that Dr. Hoke might have used? 334 00:16:39,267 --> 00:16:42,194 No. That man was particular about where he worked. 335 00:16:42,229 --> 00:16:45,121 It was either this computer or the one at home. 336 00:16:45,305 --> 00:16:47,987 And you weren't aware of any of his work on sabermetrics? 337 00:16:48,022 --> 00:16:51,002 But then again, I'm not much of a baseball fan. 338 00:17:04,418 --> 00:17:05,936 Larry. 339 00:17:05,971 --> 00:17:07,420 Charlie. 340 00:17:07,455 --> 00:17:09,043 What are you doing here? 341 00:17:09,078 --> 00:17:12,218 Well, you mentioned a memorial, and I knew you'd be here. 342 00:17:12,253 --> 00:17:13,513 Oh, yeah. 343 00:17:16,431 --> 00:17:19,566 It's a rather disheartening turnout, isn't it? 344 00:17:21,183 --> 00:17:22,426 Are we early? 345 00:17:22,461 --> 00:17:24,953 No, I don't think so. 346 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,565 It's physics. 347 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,652 It's such a demanding field. 348 00:17:31,687 --> 00:17:34,698 Leaves little time or energy for a social life. 349 00:17:34,733 --> 00:17:39,523 Einstein said that one has either time for science or family... 350 00:17:39,558 --> 00:17:40,865 but not both. 351 00:17:40,900 --> 00:17:45,676 Well, now, that's spoken like a man who can appreciate our predicament. 352 00:17:46,425 --> 00:17:47,735 I wonder though... 353 00:17:47,770 --> 00:17:51,046 is our work the actual cause, or is it an excuse? 354 00:17:51,081 --> 00:17:54,576 That's a fair hypothesis, isn't it? 355 00:17:54,611 --> 00:18:00,731 I suppose the real trick is in finding the solution while it still matters. 356 00:18:02,101 --> 00:18:03,566 What do these formulas tell you? 357 00:18:03,601 --> 00:18:05,967 The ones I've recovered indicate that the Dodgers 358 00:18:06,002 --> 00:18:08,971 are not on the right track to win the pennant next year. 359 00:18:09,006 --> 00:18:11,369 Like you needed math to figure that one out, huh? 360 00:18:12,343 --> 00:18:13,411 No. 361 00:18:14,969 --> 00:18:17,943 I heard that, uh, Don was leaning towards the wife. 362 00:18:17,978 --> 00:18:19,910 That's right. 363 00:18:19,945 --> 00:18:22,286 Seems to be the first place they look nowadays. 364 00:18:23,226 --> 00:18:26,648 I don't understand. I mean, if you hate the person you're married to that much, 365 00:18:26,683 --> 00:18:28,796 get divorced. 366 00:18:29,329 --> 00:18:31,699 Even the thought of divorce holds its own special horrors, 367 00:18:31,734 --> 00:18:33,150 let me tell you. 368 00:18:33,185 --> 00:18:35,616 Well, you and mom never thought about... 369 00:18:35,764 --> 00:18:37,599 I mean, I was never witness to any kind of... 370 00:18:37,634 --> 00:18:40,914 That's exactly the way we wanted it. 371 00:18:42,713 --> 00:18:46,012 Well, it was a long time ago, we, um... 372 00:18:46,168 --> 00:18:48,156 we had a little rough patch there for a moment, 373 00:18:48,191 --> 00:18:50,389 but we got through it. 374 00:18:52,067 --> 00:18:54,684 How rough a patch are we talking about? 375 00:18:54,719 --> 00:18:58,757 It was when you were 13 years old, and you went off to Princeton. 376 00:18:58,792 --> 00:19:01,157 Mom came with me. 377 00:19:01,931 --> 00:19:06,511 The separation was pretty hard on both of us. 378 00:19:06,547 --> 00:19:13,386 And aside from the money matters, there was this irrational jealousy. 379 00:19:13,421 --> 00:19:15,899 Anyway, even the possibility of divorce was never discussed, 380 00:19:15,934 --> 00:19:18,993 because we loved each other too much. 381 00:19:20,011 --> 00:19:22,380 I don't remember any of it. 382 00:19:23,277 --> 00:19:26,582 I don't even remember a raised voice between the two of you. 383 00:19:26,617 --> 00:19:28,152 That's because your mother and I both agreed 384 00:19:28,187 --> 00:19:31,692 that we wouldn't stress you or Don any more than we had to. 385 00:19:33,554 --> 00:19:36,996 Charlie, that's how parents argue in front of their children. 386 00:19:37,609 --> 00:19:40,235 They disguise the big things as little things. 387 00:19:43,617 --> 00:19:45,776 Big things disguised as little things. 388 00:19:45,811 --> 00:19:49,760 In World war II, U.S. submarines were equipped with bathythermographs, 389 00:19:49,795 --> 00:19:53,230 which helped them find warm pockets of water beneath colder ones, 390 00:19:53,266 --> 00:19:56,286 because warm water bent the sound waves away. 391 00:19:56,321 --> 00:20:01,239 If the submarine hid in the right place, the enemy's sonar was useless. 392 00:20:02,372 --> 00:20:04,828 Hoke did the same thing with his own data. 393 00:20:04,863 --> 00:20:06,407 He hid it in warm water. 394 00:20:06,442 --> 00:20:08,834 He disguised his work as baseball statistics, 395 00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:10,721 thereby hiding its real meaning. 396 00:20:10,756 --> 00:20:12,080 How'd you figure it out? 397 00:20:12,115 --> 00:20:15,550 The magnetic shadows that were left on the hard drive after the wipe. 398 00:20:15,585 --> 00:20:18,986 I ran the extrapolated data through a series of simple algorithms. 399 00:20:19,021 --> 00:20:22,389 The end result was that the baseball statistics fell away, 400 00:20:22,424 --> 00:20:24,562 leaving the pertinent numbers. 401 00:20:24,597 --> 00:20:26,795 I then did a simple brute force analysis. 402 00:20:26,830 --> 00:20:30,665 Brute force? / I just went on the internet and googled the set of numbers. 403 00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:34,499 I sifted through the hits one by one, to find the matching data tables. 404 00:20:34,613 --> 00:20:38,820 Hoke pulled his data off of U.S. census bureau reports over the last ten years. 405 00:20:38,856 --> 00:20:43,609 Other tables were federal budgets, grade point averages, SAT scores. 406 00:20:43,644 --> 00:20:48,051 Grade point averages? / Hoke's work had nothing to do with baseball at all. 407 00:20:48,086 --> 00:20:52,459 He was attempting to apply the concept of sabermetrics to average communities, 408 00:20:52,494 --> 00:20:55,178 - not athletes. - You're talking about real people? 409 00:20:55,214 --> 00:20:57,687 Actuaries do it all the time. 410 00:20:57,722 --> 00:21:01,641 Uh, taking into account income levels, access to health insurance. 411 00:21:01,676 --> 00:21:03,897 Only Hoke wasn't measuring life expectancy. 412 00:21:03,932 --> 00:21:06,186 He was measuring human potential. 413 00:21:06,479 --> 00:21:09,426 What do you mean? Like predicting success? 414 00:21:09,461 --> 00:21:10,976 Almost from birth. 415 00:21:11,011 --> 00:21:12,456 That's not possible. 416 00:21:12,491 --> 00:21:16,114 Baseball teams use sabermetrics to determine which players to pay. 417 00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:21,240 He was using sabermetrics to determine what people were worth investing in. 418 00:21:21,276 --> 00:21:24,532 So no one gets left behind, they just never get started to begin with. 419 00:21:24,567 --> 00:21:27,257 It applies to schools. It applies to hospitals, to libraries. 420 00:21:27,292 --> 00:21:33,244 I mean, companies fire employees who smoke because of future statistical probabilities of cancer. 421 00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:36,520 Uh, they use DNA to deny employees access to healthcare. 422 00:21:36,555 --> 00:21:39,877 I mean, why not a mathematical analysis to do the exact same thing? 423 00:21:39,912 --> 00:21:41,888 And you're saying he was actually close? 424 00:21:41,924 --> 00:21:45,102 Well, from what I can tell, he hadn't finished his main equation, 425 00:21:45,137 --> 00:21:47,452 though once he was through, theoretically, 426 00:21:47,487 --> 00:21:50,354 he'd be able to predict human performance based on geographic and 427 00:21:50,389 --> 00:21:53,442 environmental factors, down to a city block. 428 00:21:53,477 --> 00:21:55,246 So basically, you are where you live? 429 00:21:55,281 --> 00:21:59,719 A mathematical determination of who will or won't be a winner. 430 00:22:09,371 --> 00:22:11,166 I've never seen any of this stuff before. 431 00:22:11,201 --> 00:22:12,925 Well, it's an incredible amount of data. 432 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,199 So you're saying Dr. Hoke never asked for your help? 433 00:22:15,234 --> 00:22:17,010 With this? Absolutely not. 434 00:22:17,835 --> 00:22:19,546 I mean, you know how it is. He works alone. 435 00:22:19,581 --> 00:22:23,408 I'd get glimpses, but it's not like he includes me or anything. 436 00:22:23,443 --> 00:22:25,860 Yeah, but what about research, Scott? I mean, you never prepared charts, 437 00:22:25,895 --> 00:22:28,489 or downloaded statistics? That seem a little weird, 438 00:22:28,524 --> 00:22:31,049 considering what you thought he might be working on? 439 00:22:31,084 --> 00:22:34,162 Um, there's some market research studies that he asked me to get. 440 00:22:34,197 --> 00:22:36,783 - Yeah? - But I don't know. 441 00:22:36,952 --> 00:22:38,236 Market research? 442 00:22:38,271 --> 00:22:40,441 Yeah, stuff the Lorman group was compiling. 443 00:22:40,476 --> 00:22:42,179 What kind of stuff? 444 00:22:42,333 --> 00:22:45,493 Household incomes, housing costs, buying tendencies. 445 00:22:45,528 --> 00:22:48,653 This was all stuff the Lorman group was working on? 446 00:22:48,688 --> 00:22:50,942 Yeah. Um, Dr. Hoke would make the request, 447 00:22:50,977 --> 00:22:53,756 and then Mr. Oliver would have me e-mail it to his home. 448 00:22:53,791 --> 00:22:55,632 And when was this? 449 00:22:55,667 --> 00:22:57,536 Up until a few weeks ago. 450 00:22:57,571 --> 00:22:58,978 What happened a few weeks ago? 451 00:22:59,013 --> 00:23:01,062 For the last request, 452 00:23:01,097 --> 00:23:02,806 Mr. Oliver called me into his office, 453 00:23:02,841 --> 00:23:05,760 and he said the company was not going to allow Dr. Hoke 454 00:23:05,795 --> 00:23:07,744 access to the information anymore. 455 00:23:07,779 --> 00:23:09,181 Did he tell you why? 456 00:23:09,216 --> 00:23:11,301 I mean, it's not really my place to ask, 457 00:23:11,336 --> 00:23:14,184 but I just remember Dr. Hoke was pretty upset about it. 458 00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:15,237 Oh, yeah? 459 00:23:15,272 --> 00:23:16,967 Okay. Thanks for talking to us. 460 00:23:17,002 --> 00:23:18,456 - I'll take that. - Yeah. 461 00:23:18,492 --> 00:23:19,678 Thanks a lot, Scott. 462 00:23:19,713 --> 00:23:20,969 All right. 463 00:23:25,164 --> 00:23:27,446 Sounds like Hoke was going behind the company's back, 464 00:23:27,482 --> 00:23:29,733 trying to develop a new software program. 465 00:23:29,768 --> 00:23:32,407 Either that, or trying to hijack it. 466 00:23:32,442 --> 00:23:35,545 Explains why Oliver shows up the night the body's found. 467 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:37,978 Yeah, he's gonna get back his program, right? 468 00:23:38,013 --> 00:23:41,235 Question is, did they want it bad enough to kill him for it? 469 00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:44,465 Well, I mean, he was concerned that someone was gonna steal it, right? 470 00:23:44,500 --> 00:23:46,948 Otherwise, why disguise it as baseball stats? 471 00:23:46,983 --> 00:23:48,925 Why would he bother to do it on his own home computer? 472 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,010 Unless he was worried that his house wasn't as private as he thought it was. 473 00:24:41,405 --> 00:24:44,618 Don, take a look. 474 00:24:48,334 --> 00:24:50,308 Oh, yeah, look at that. 475 00:24:51,309 --> 00:24:53,351 Something was there. 476 00:24:54,123 --> 00:24:56,387 Maybe they didn't have time to pull the wire. 477 00:24:56,422 --> 00:24:58,690 A dead body decomposing a few feet away, 478 00:24:58,726 --> 00:25:01,209 maybe they felt the need to rush. 479 00:25:04,813 --> 00:25:06,595 Oh, yeah. 480 00:25:06,747 --> 00:25:09,246 Someone put some kind of surveillance there. 481 00:25:09,281 --> 00:25:12,193 Hoke had a reason to be paranoid. 482 00:25:15,082 --> 00:25:18,090 See, that must be why the alarm went off two days late. 483 00:25:18,126 --> 00:25:20,818 So someone came in after he was murdered to remove the device. 484 00:25:20,853 --> 00:25:21,952 That's what tripped it. 485 00:25:21,988 --> 00:25:25,792 So someone planted a surveillance device in Dr. Hoke's house. 486 00:25:25,926 --> 00:25:29,518 Well, judging by your tone, you think that someone is me? 487 00:25:30,274 --> 00:25:32,307 Dr. Hoke was working on a software program 488 00:25:32,342 --> 00:25:34,850 that would be extremely valuable to a lot of people. 489 00:25:34,885 --> 00:25:38,071 Yes, well, I gave the FBI full access to the imaging data. 490 00:25:38,106 --> 00:25:40,727 Well, actually, we found a second body of work on his home computer, 491 00:25:40,762 --> 00:25:43,024 and it had nothing to do with your satellite program. 492 00:25:43,059 --> 00:25:44,620 I have no idea what you're talking about. 493 00:25:44,655 --> 00:25:46,215 No? 494 00:25:46,249 --> 00:25:47,656 You sure? 495 00:25:47,691 --> 00:25:51,572 So if our consultant wanted to develop that data, you wouldn't assert a claim? 496 00:25:51,607 --> 00:25:55,979 Well, the Lorman group has a contract with every researcher we employ, 497 00:25:56,014 --> 00:25:59,475 so anything that Dr. Hoke worked on is owned by the company. 498 00:25:59,510 --> 00:26:00,771 Maybe he didn't agree. 499 00:26:00,806 --> 00:26:02,943 Maybe you went to his house, argued. 500 00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:06,867 The night I met you is the only time I was ever in Dr. Hoke's house. 501 00:26:06,902 --> 00:26:09,119 There's more than one way inside of a person's home. 502 00:26:09,154 --> 00:26:11,302 Look, we want that surveillance, okay? 503 00:26:11,337 --> 00:26:12,523 I want my lawyer. 504 00:26:12,558 --> 00:26:15,291 You sure? Because if someone happened to leak to the press that your company 505 00:26:15,326 --> 00:26:17,881 is under criminal investigation, your government contracts? 506 00:26:17,916 --> 00:26:20,150 they might dry up pretty darn fast. What do you think? 507 00:26:20,185 --> 00:26:21,666 Feds don't like scandals. 508 00:26:21,701 --> 00:26:23,989 You take a moment, think about it. 509 00:26:35,818 --> 00:26:38,207 Jonas had no right doing what he did. 510 00:26:38,242 --> 00:26:39,426 No? 511 00:26:39,461 --> 00:26:43,895 The idea of using statistical analyses to 512 00:26:43,931 --> 00:26:48,718 predict human performance originated in this company. 513 00:26:48,753 --> 00:26:50,419 But he didn't see it that way? 514 00:26:50,454 --> 00:26:54,105 He refused to provide algorithms to us unless 515 00:26:54,140 --> 00:26:57,756 we gave him a percentage of the license fees 516 00:26:57,791 --> 00:27:00,352 we charge for the use of our software. 517 00:27:00,387 --> 00:27:02,264 And this time I bet you refused. 518 00:27:02,299 --> 00:27:06,196 I had no intention of being extorted by Jonas Hoke or anyone else. 519 00:27:06,231 --> 00:27:07,918 So you put the surveillance on him? 520 00:27:07,953 --> 00:27:10,224 I did no such thing. 521 00:27:10,259 --> 00:27:11,807 But after I learned that he died, 522 00:27:11,842 --> 00:27:15,564 I felt that we were within our rights to retrieve the research. 523 00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:18,449 So, what, you called your friend, Reacher? 524 00:27:18,485 --> 00:27:20,996 Look, the point of all of this is, 525 00:27:21,031 --> 00:27:23,990 I didn't have to steal anything from Jonas Hoke. 526 00:27:24,025 --> 00:27:25,884 I already owned it. 527 00:27:27,927 --> 00:27:29,182 All right. 528 00:27:29,217 --> 00:27:30,921 We'll be in touch. 529 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,285 So Oliver told you what Hoke was working on. 530 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,801 That's why you wanted his people there. 531 00:27:41,836 --> 00:27:45,283 Oliver said Hoke had a program that could determine with mathematical certainty 532 00:27:45,318 --> 00:27:48,730 which neighborhoods would benefit from public spending and which ones wouldn't. 533 00:27:48,766 --> 00:27:50,689 Yeah, and you understand this is about justifying 534 00:27:50,725 --> 00:27:53,620 taking money from some certain communities and giving it to others. 535 00:27:53,655 --> 00:27:56,516 In case you hadn't heard, we're running a $10 trillion deficit. 536 00:27:56,552 --> 00:27:58,056 Yeah, I read the papers. 537 00:27:58,091 --> 00:28:00,632 Why throw money away on state-of-the-art lab facilities 538 00:28:00,667 --> 00:28:02,082 for kids who have no potential? 539 00:28:02,117 --> 00:28:04,530 That's right. Why even give them books? 540 00:28:05,630 --> 00:28:08,443 Oliver asked me if such a program would be 541 00:28:08,478 --> 00:28:10,347 of value to the government. 542 00:28:10,382 --> 00:28:11,649 I believed it would. 543 00:28:11,684 --> 00:28:14,463 So you put the surveillance in Hoke's house? 544 00:28:14,788 --> 00:28:16,523 No. 545 00:28:16,972 --> 00:28:19,256 You wouldn't tell me if you did, would you? 546 00:28:20,974 --> 00:28:23,082 I understand you haven't turned the data you got from Hoke's computer 547 00:28:23,117 --> 00:28:24,518 over to the Lorman group yet. 548 00:28:24,553 --> 00:28:26,466 Yes, that's right, and I don't have any intention of it. 549 00:28:26,501 --> 00:28:28,492 Oh, you realize, I'll just have my boss call your boss. 550 00:28:28,527 --> 00:28:30,482 These relationships go way beyond the two of us, Eppes. 551 00:28:30,517 --> 00:28:32,098 Part of a homicide investigation. 552 00:28:32,133 --> 00:28:33,705 There's no telling when it might become available, 553 00:28:33,740 --> 00:28:35,807 but you go ahead, you make your call. 554 00:28:35,861 --> 00:28:38,744 We did not place surveillance inside Jonas Hoke's house. 555 00:28:38,779 --> 00:28:41,455 So if it wasn't us, and it wasn't Oliver's people, 556 00:28:41,490 --> 00:28:42,959 who was watching Hoke? 557 00:28:42,994 --> 00:28:45,660 Well, whoever it was, it's clean. 558 00:28:45,695 --> 00:28:47,922 No prints, no identifying signature. 559 00:28:47,958 --> 00:28:50,115 Any idea how they could have done it? 560 00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:53,218 Well, the alarm company runs a phone line through the touch pad. 561 00:28:53,253 --> 00:28:55,741 Whatever system was used to spy on Hoke was 562 00:28:55,776 --> 00:28:58,429 piggybacked onto the security system. 563 00:28:58,465 --> 00:29:00,283 So it was a listening device? 564 00:29:00,318 --> 00:29:01,921 Some sort of audio would be my guess, 565 00:29:01,956 --> 00:29:04,497 but it's hard to tell without the actual device. 566 00:29:04,532 --> 00:29:07,038 Wait a minute. Hold that screen right there. 567 00:29:07,073 --> 00:29:08,232 Don, take a look at this. 568 00:29:08,267 --> 00:29:11,023 This is the manufacturers' list for the alarm system, right? 569 00:29:11,058 --> 00:29:14,829 This is the serial number for that unit, the unit in Hoke's house. 570 00:29:14,864 --> 00:29:17,128 Take a look at who bought it. 571 00:29:17,164 --> 00:29:19,639 Grodin construction. 572 00:29:19,674 --> 00:29:21,394 The boyfriend. 573 00:29:35,030 --> 00:29:37,313 - Take it to four. - Okay. 574 00:29:37,348 --> 00:29:38,845 You two again. 575 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,917 Yep, with more questions. 576 00:29:40,951 --> 00:29:42,935 I don't know what else I can tell you. 577 00:29:42,970 --> 00:29:46,255 Why don't you tell us about the bug you planted in Jonas Hoke's house? 578 00:29:46,290 --> 00:29:49,225 You know, for a while there, I was thinking Gail was the victim in all this. 579 00:29:49,259 --> 00:29:50,733 I didn't do anything wrong. 580 00:29:50,769 --> 00:29:54,060 No? / Don't tell me this is the part where you say that she did it all? 581 00:29:54,094 --> 00:29:56,082 Look, neither of us did anything. 582 00:29:56,117 --> 00:29:58,811 Well, we still got a dead body and an alarm system that was bugged, 583 00:29:58,846 --> 00:30:01,443 an alarm system that you installed. 584 00:30:02,125 --> 00:30:04,705 Gail's lawyer asked me to help her guy put a wire 585 00:30:04,740 --> 00:30:07,285 or something into Jonas's house, but that's it. 586 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,984 That's all I did. 587 00:30:09,020 --> 00:30:10,918 Turn around. Let's go. 588 00:30:16,060 --> 00:30:18,464 Last time we spoke, you weren't exactly forthcoming 589 00:30:18,499 --> 00:30:20,863 about your relationship with Lucas Grodin. 590 00:30:20,897 --> 00:30:22,496 In what way wasn't she forthcoming? 591 00:30:22,530 --> 00:30:24,165 For starters, how about the fact you never mentioned 592 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,458 you asked him to wire your husband's house. 593 00:30:28,512 --> 00:30:31,091 The house was never adjudicated as separate property, 594 00:30:31,126 --> 00:30:35,548 so therefore whatever monitoring system Mrs. Hoke may have placed in her own house, 595 00:30:35,583 --> 00:30:37,999 she was absolutely entitled to do so. 596 00:30:38,034 --> 00:30:40,734 I put Jonas through college and grad school. / Gail... 597 00:30:40,768 --> 00:30:43,370 I waited tables. I did anything I could, 598 00:30:43,405 --> 00:30:45,938 because I believed we had a future together. 599 00:30:45,973 --> 00:30:48,844 Do you have any idea what it's like to have your husband tell you 600 00:30:48,878 --> 00:30:51,549 your contribution to your marriage isn't of value? 601 00:30:51,584 --> 00:30:52,710 I think we should take a break now. 602 00:30:52,745 --> 00:30:55,137 I'm not finished with your client, counselor. 603 00:30:55,172 --> 00:30:57,273 You can't prove Gail did anything. 604 00:30:57,308 --> 00:31:00,709 All I need to make out conspiracy at this point is probable cause. 605 00:31:00,744 --> 00:31:03,792 And your boyfriend's alarm system gives me exactly that. 606 00:31:03,827 --> 00:31:06,308 It also puts you in possession of material evidence, 607 00:31:06,343 --> 00:31:08,756 and an obstruction of justice charge, counselor. 608 00:31:08,791 --> 00:31:13,245 If Jonas were a doctor or a lawyer, I'd be entitled to half of everything. 609 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,700 But everything he had was inside his head, so tell me, agent Sinclair, 610 00:31:17,734 --> 00:31:19,398 how do you get half of that? 611 00:31:19,433 --> 00:31:21,261 Which is why you put surveillance in his house, 612 00:31:21,296 --> 00:31:22,376 to see what was on his computer. 613 00:31:22,411 --> 00:31:26,526 It was the only way Jonas would have ever given me what I was entitled to. 614 00:31:26,562 --> 00:31:28,340 Right. 615 00:31:28,374 --> 00:31:31,813 But after you had the information you needed, 616 00:31:31,847 --> 00:31:34,122 why'd you kill him? 617 00:31:34,570 --> 00:31:37,071 I didn't kill him. 618 00:31:37,321 --> 00:31:39,531 I could never do anything like that. 619 00:31:39,566 --> 00:31:41,743 I told you, he was late with a check. 620 00:31:41,777 --> 00:31:42,950 I went there to get it. 621 00:31:42,985 --> 00:31:44,851 That's when I found him dead. 622 00:31:44,886 --> 00:31:46,681 Gail did not kill her husband. 623 00:31:46,717 --> 00:31:48,512 Forgive me if I'm not willing to take your word for it. 624 00:31:49,831 --> 00:31:51,375 You don't have to. 625 00:31:51,410 --> 00:31:54,300 I have the surveillance, remember? 626 00:31:55,565 --> 00:31:57,615 So is this an audio file? 627 00:31:57,650 --> 00:31:59,485 No, actually, digital video. 628 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,926 So the device was a camera? 629 00:32:01,961 --> 00:32:04,334 Not exactly. It was an antenna. 630 00:32:04,391 --> 00:32:06,029 A Van Eck Phreak. 631 00:32:06,064 --> 00:32:07,878 But at a far more sophisticated level. 632 00:32:07,913 --> 00:32:09,658 Wait, what are you guys talking about? 633 00:32:09,692 --> 00:32:12,691 The wire you found in his house wasn't for a camera. 634 00:32:12,726 --> 00:32:14,479 It wasn't for a microphone. 635 00:32:14,513 --> 00:32:16,231 It was for a high-gain antenna. 636 00:32:16,266 --> 00:32:17,412 An antenna? 637 00:32:17,447 --> 00:32:19,234 For what? To pick up what? 638 00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:20,985 Well, with any LCD screen, 639 00:32:21,021 --> 00:32:24,665 liquid crystals provide an image when energy passes through them. 640 00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:25,956 The color they become 641 00:32:25,991 --> 00:32:28,278 depends on the amount of energy that they're exposed to. 642 00:32:28,313 --> 00:32:30,566 When the energy passes through these liquid crystals, 643 00:32:30,601 --> 00:32:33,236 it emits a wave of electromagnetic radiation. 644 00:32:33,271 --> 00:32:37,173 Dutch physicist Van Eck realized that with an antenna and a decoder, 645 00:32:37,208 --> 00:32:39,460 you could both read the waves and decode them 646 00:32:39,495 --> 00:32:42,708 into a perfect replica of what someone would be seeing on their computer screen. 647 00:32:42,743 --> 00:32:43,521 What you're saying is, 648 00:32:43,557 --> 00:32:45,356 that the antenna was able to read and pick up 649 00:32:45,391 --> 00:32:47,155 whatever was on Hoke's home computer screen. 650 00:32:47,190 --> 00:32:48,909 - That's right. - That is amazing. 651 00:32:48,944 --> 00:32:51,875 Hoke had elaborate safeguards against conventional hacking. 652 00:32:51,910 --> 00:32:53,186 Firewalls, blockers... 653 00:32:53,221 --> 00:32:55,609 still, nothing could stop this. 654 00:32:55,644 --> 00:32:57,223 Isn't that around the time he was killed? 655 00:32:57,258 --> 00:32:59,033 Yeah. 656 00:33:03,276 --> 00:33:05,372 That's where the files were being erased. 657 00:33:05,407 --> 00:33:09,390 See the zeroes and ones just flipping around, back and forth? 658 00:33:09,425 --> 00:33:11,695 So the killer knew Hoke's passwords. 659 00:33:11,730 --> 00:33:13,966 Too bad he didn't leave a fingerprint. 660 00:33:14,208 --> 00:33:17,993 Actually, you know what? I think he did. 661 00:33:20,915 --> 00:33:22,368 All right, so what are we looking at? 662 00:33:22,404 --> 00:33:24,865 Digital representations of a pattern of keystrokes. 663 00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:26,865 One taken from Hoke's computer at home, 664 00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:28,801 one from Hoke's computer at work. 665 00:33:28,836 --> 00:33:31,855 Now, you know that experts can distinguish one person's typing 666 00:33:31,890 --> 00:33:34,874 - from another by their rhythm. - Yeah, you mean like Morse code. 667 00:33:34,909 --> 00:33:35,851 Right. 668 00:33:35,886 --> 00:33:38,315 Telegraph operators used to recognize each other 669 00:33:38,350 --> 00:33:41,598 by the different ways they used to tap into the exact same codes, 670 00:33:41,633 --> 00:33:44,848 like a concert pianist sitting down to play a piece of music. 671 00:33:44,883 --> 00:33:47,246 Even though the notes originate from the sheet music, 672 00:33:47,281 --> 00:33:49,378 the way she plays them is entirely distinctive. 673 00:33:49,413 --> 00:33:54,008 Now, if another pianist sits down to play the same piece of music, 674 00:33:54,043 --> 00:33:55,506 the strength of notes, 675 00:33:55,541 --> 00:34:00,374 the flourishes in rhythm would make the keystrokes totally different. 676 00:34:02,068 --> 00:34:06,096 Now, only by seeing them side-by-side would you be able to tell they were different. 677 00:34:06,131 --> 00:34:08,156 See... 678 00:34:08,191 --> 00:34:10,420 I'm sitting here, and I'm looking at these, 679 00:34:10,454 --> 00:34:12,440 and they look identical to me. 680 00:34:12,474 --> 00:34:14,391 That's because they are, Don. 681 00:34:14,426 --> 00:34:17,091 This is from Hoke's computer at home. 682 00:34:17,126 --> 00:34:20,715 The keystrokes you're seeing are passwords used to tap 683 00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:24,358 into Hoke's sabermetrics files, made after Hoke was dead. 684 00:34:24,393 --> 00:34:27,966 This is from Hoke's computer workstation at the Lorman group, 685 00:34:28,001 --> 00:34:30,168 made after Hoke was dead. 686 00:34:30,203 --> 00:34:34,547 So then this is the same person that erased the files? 687 00:34:49,268 --> 00:34:51,661 Scott Reynolds, you're under arrest for the murder of Dr. Jonas Hoke. 688 00:34:51,696 --> 00:34:53,499 Get your hands up. 689 00:34:54,398 --> 00:34:55,696 You have the right to remain silent. 690 00:34:55,731 --> 00:34:58,868 Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. 691 00:34:58,903 --> 00:35:00,438 Bring him down. 692 00:35:22,049 --> 00:35:23,893 All right, sir. Go ahead. 693 00:35:23,928 --> 00:35:25,663 What do you want? 694 00:35:26,179 --> 00:35:29,140 I'm trying to figure out how you could kill a man, 695 00:35:29,375 --> 00:35:32,703 how you could kill a fellow scientist to steal his work. 696 00:35:32,738 --> 00:35:36,033 Is that why you think I killed Dr. Hoke for the money? 697 00:35:36,653 --> 00:35:39,442 You weren't jealous of his accomplishments. 698 00:35:39,554 --> 00:35:42,531 His accomplishments, is that what you call them? 699 00:35:44,855 --> 00:35:47,397 I grew up in West Oakland. 700 00:35:47,432 --> 00:35:50,413 Anyone I grew up with who isn't dead or in prison 701 00:35:50,447 --> 00:35:52,443 is flipping burgers or driving a truck. 702 00:35:52,478 --> 00:35:56,207 And it's not too difficult to guess what Dr. Hoke's formula would have said about 703 00:35:56,242 --> 00:35:58,986 putting a computer lab in my high school. 704 00:35:59,047 --> 00:36:00,801 That computer lab saved my life, 705 00:36:00,836 --> 00:36:02,986 and next year, it's gonna save somebody else's. 706 00:36:03,021 --> 00:36:06,813 And killing Dr. Hoke accomplishes that? 707 00:36:07,811 --> 00:36:10,511 You think it stops there? 708 00:36:10,857 --> 00:36:14,163 In the last century, the Nazis used the theory of eugenics 709 00:36:14,198 --> 00:36:17,377 to stop the poor from reproducing. 710 00:36:17,412 --> 00:36:20,707 Eventually, they justified just killing the sick ones. 711 00:36:20,742 --> 00:36:21,938 You can't compare that to this. 712 00:36:21,973 --> 00:36:23,529 Actually, that's a perfect comparison, 713 00:36:23,564 --> 00:36:28,858 because what Jonas was doing was taking away a person's chance at life. 714 00:36:28,893 --> 00:36:30,495 It's taking away someone's hope. 715 00:36:30,530 --> 00:36:34,109 And I did what I had to do to stop that before it started. 716 00:36:34,177 --> 00:36:37,440 That makes you a murderer. 717 00:36:38,983 --> 00:36:41,410 Don't you ever wonder about your own work? 718 00:36:43,308 --> 00:36:45,279 What about my work? 719 00:36:47,152 --> 00:36:50,871 Well, you consult for the NSA, don't you? 720 00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:54,694 of course you do. 721 00:36:54,784 --> 00:36:59,664 So you're gonna tell me that everything you do will be used for good all the time? 722 00:37:00,229 --> 00:37:02,633 What's your point? 723 00:37:02,668 --> 00:37:05,440 You're asking me how I'm gonna live with myself. 724 00:37:05,475 --> 00:37:08,212 Look in the mirror. Ask yourself the same question. 725 00:37:08,247 --> 00:37:09,730 Let's go. 726 00:37:25,275 --> 00:37:27,003 Jonas Hoke's last hurdle. 727 00:37:27,038 --> 00:37:32,642 Oh, yes, his equation seeking to predict a person's chance at success. 728 00:37:34,201 --> 00:37:36,442 He never got to finish it. 729 00:37:36,477 --> 00:37:39,377 I thought maybe I'd give it a shot myself. 730 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,300 Why? 731 00:37:41,335 --> 00:37:43,079 To what end? 732 00:37:43,114 --> 00:37:47,055 This work is just a self-fulfilling prophecy. 733 00:37:47,090 --> 00:37:48,164 What do you mean? 734 00:37:48,198 --> 00:37:49,296 Well... 735 00:37:49,331 --> 00:37:55,324 Charles, if we use numbers to choose who among us gets opportunity, 736 00:37:55,359 --> 00:37:59,874 then by definition, those we haven't chosen don't. 737 00:38:00,101 --> 00:38:03,714 That's not science. Well, it's not good science. 738 00:38:03,749 --> 00:38:07,847 It's like, every year college football chooses a national champion, 739 00:38:07,883 --> 00:38:11,947 but they use computers to determine which two teams play for the title. 740 00:38:11,982 --> 00:38:14,241 And every year, invariably, 741 00:38:14,276 --> 00:38:16,770 some team gets left off that believes, 742 00:38:16,806 --> 00:38:22,053 well, it could have won the game on the field if it had just been given the chance. 743 00:38:22,088 --> 00:38:25,622 I've always believed that it was my duty to... 744 00:38:25,657 --> 00:38:28,662 develop mathematical tools, 745 00:38:28,697 --> 00:38:32,783 and someone else's to use them wisely. 746 00:38:33,487 --> 00:38:35,726 Could I have been wrong? 747 00:38:37,028 --> 00:38:41,378 The consequence of our understanding subatomic particles 748 00:38:41,414 --> 00:38:46,906 was a horrible bomb that transformed the world we live in 749 00:38:46,941 --> 00:38:52,400 and a source of energy, the basis of life-saving techniques, 750 00:38:52,436 --> 00:38:55,915 and an indispensable scientific tool. 751 00:38:55,951 --> 00:38:58,136 Science... 752 00:38:58,172 --> 00:39:00,089 you know, science, 753 00:39:00,124 --> 00:39:04,760 not this, but real science, is discovery, Charles. 754 00:39:04,796 --> 00:39:06,624 It's not invention. 755 00:39:06,659 --> 00:39:08,417 The truths are there, 756 00:39:08,453 --> 00:39:11,520 whether we find them or not. 757 00:39:11,555 --> 00:39:14,430 Listen, I'm gonna grab a bite to eat. You want to come? 758 00:39:18,056 --> 00:39:19,927 Okay. 759 00:39:19,492 --> 00:39:19,962 Thank you. 63358

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