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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,680 High school in his senior year. A drinking problem. 2 00:00:03,020 --> 00:00:07,460 Yeah. Then in college, he got into the frat scene. He died of alcohol 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,440 And you're blaming Portis Brewery. I'm certainly aware that there were other 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,120 beers, but for the most part, it was Portis. Do you take any responsibility, 5 00:00:16,219 --> 00:00:19,440 Barry? Your son was underage, drinking illegally. 6 00:00:19,740 --> 00:00:24,440 No matter what parents say, it is hard to compete with the images of fun and 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,260 social acceptance that is being marketed by the alcohol industry. 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,580 We make it our business to curtail underage drinkers. Really? 9 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:34,820 Besides those sex and alcohol commercials, what else? 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,920 Objection. This kid couldn't so much as watch a baseball game without hearing 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,040 your jingle, Mr. Carroll, and he's dead. He's dead. 12 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:45,820 Your Honor, could I have a two -minute recess? We have an offer we'd like to 13 00:00:45,820 --> 00:00:46,820 propose to the plaintiff. 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,320 1 .6 million. Should we take it? 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:51,800 Let's take our chances. 16 00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:54,580 What? The offer is rejected, Your Honor. 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Mr. Foreman. 18 00:00:56,270 --> 00:01:00,310 What say you? We, the jury, find in favor of the plaintiff and order the 19 00:01:00,310 --> 00:01:04,290 defendant to pay punitive damages in the amount of $125 million. 20 00:01:05,410 --> 00:01:06,410 We appeal. 21 00:01:07,250 --> 00:01:09,270 One of my inmates is Denise Freeman. 22 00:01:09,530 --> 00:01:12,230 She shot two young boys playing in the park. 23 00:01:12,450 --> 00:01:14,370 She's scheduled to be executed next week. 24 00:01:14,730 --> 00:01:15,730 How can I help? 25 00:01:15,790 --> 00:01:18,450 I'd like you to stop it. Are you against the death penalty? 26 00:01:18,750 --> 00:01:22,490 No, not at all. In fact, I think we should employ it more often. But we 27 00:01:22,490 --> 00:01:24,130 shouldn't be killing Denise Freeman. 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,820 She's not the same person who committed those crimes. 29 00:01:27,180 --> 00:01:31,420 I heard voices. I thought they were a mandate from God. You know, there's 30 00:01:31,420 --> 00:01:34,420 somebody like me on Dateline once a week. Any actual diagnosis? 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,040 Paranoid schizophrenia. 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,820 Do you have a memory of the killings? They haven't found the medication yet to 33 00:01:40,820 --> 00:01:41,820 erase memory. 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,200 You want to take her off the meds? And stop the execution on the grounds that 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,720 she's insane. The Supreme Court has expressly held Eighth Amendment 36 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:51,760 executing the insane. 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,280 Go off my medication? 38 00:01:54,090 --> 00:01:55,910 It's our last, best shot. 39 00:01:56,250 --> 00:01:57,970 I will go crazy, Eleanor. 40 00:01:58,770 --> 00:02:00,250 You do realize that. 41 00:02:05,550 --> 00:02:10,570 It's just that they would laugh, you know. 42 00:02:12,130 --> 00:02:13,650 Not really laugh. 43 00:02:14,510 --> 00:02:15,510 Ha ha ha. 44 00:02:15,850 --> 00:02:17,750 Because then they would get into trouble. 45 00:02:19,590 --> 00:02:21,650 They would get sent to the principal's office. 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,760 And they all knew better. 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,840 Denise, who talked? 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,160 The kids. 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,160 All the kids. 50 00:02:30,260 --> 00:02:32,140 Kids. The kids you shot? 51 00:02:35,060 --> 00:02:40,500 Denise, the kids you shot? Every time I entered a room, except they would 52 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:43,800 disguise it because they knew they would get into trouble, they'd cough. 53 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,220 That was their plan. 54 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,480 Sometimes they would sneeze, but usually they would cough. 55 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,560 That one's a laugh at me. 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,760 Denise, which kids? 57 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,040 All the kids. 58 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:00,720 At school. 59 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,020 The kids at school. 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,020 They'd always cough. 61 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,780 The boys in the park, did they cough? 62 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,740 I'm not supposed to talk about that. That's a secret. 63 00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:13,280 A secret between... Me and him. 64 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:15,300 Who's him? 65 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:16,540 He doesn't cough. 66 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,640 You don't know who him is. 67 00:03:19,290 --> 00:03:23,430 But you and he entered into a secret. He talks to me from the inside. 68 00:03:24,410 --> 00:03:26,110 The inside of... Me! 69 00:03:36,070 --> 00:03:38,690 We have no way of knowing this isn't an act. 70 00:03:38,910 --> 00:03:39,970 She certainly has motive. 71 00:03:40,250 --> 00:03:44,650 She was examined by six different doctors, including two from the state. 72 00:03:44,650 --> 00:03:46,070 all came to the same conclusion. 73 00:03:46,310 --> 00:03:50,350 If she's legally insane, and I make no such confession, her state of mind is 74 00:03:50,350 --> 00:03:51,470 self -inflicted here. 75 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:54,310 That's not an issue before this court. 76 00:03:54,650 --> 00:03:59,370 This is a hearing to determine her mental state only. The consequence of 77 00:03:59,370 --> 00:04:01,230 determination is up to another court. 78 00:04:01,450 --> 00:04:05,050 This, to me, is a perversity of our legal system. It may very well be, Mr. 79 00:04:05,170 --> 00:04:06,170 Parker. 80 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,880 But this hearing, like Ms. Frutt says, is only about the petitioner's current 81 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:10,880 mental health. 82 00:04:11,780 --> 00:04:15,360 Ms. Freeman, I have wonderful news. 83 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,320 The court hereby finds you insane. 84 00:04:19,100 --> 00:04:20,279 You must be pleased. 85 00:05:19,460 --> 00:05:20,800 So, what now? 86 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:28,820 The next step is we go to the federal district court to stop the execution on 87 00:05:28,820 --> 00:05:29,880 the grounds that you're insane. 88 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:35,040 And that's a matter of course, right? I mean, it's perfunctory. The Supreme 89 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,800 Court has already ruled on this, right? 90 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:39,220 Nothing is perfunctory. 91 00:05:39,780 --> 00:05:44,880 And as the Attorney General said before, the fact that your insanity is somewhat 92 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,480 self -inflicted... When can I get back on my medication? 93 00:05:48,830 --> 00:05:53,470 Well, the date will try to force you back on. And under the current law, they 94 00:05:53,470 --> 00:05:54,730 might be able to do that. 95 00:05:55,010 --> 00:05:57,350 For our purposes, it's too loud. 96 00:05:57,630 --> 00:05:58,870 It's too loud. 97 00:05:59,630 --> 00:06:00,630 Hey! 98 00:06:05,270 --> 00:06:06,270 Denise. 99 00:06:07,330 --> 00:06:08,750 Remember, that's your illness. 100 00:06:09,610 --> 00:06:12,690 When people cough, they're not really laughing at you. 101 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:14,590 That's your illness. 102 00:06:15,450 --> 00:06:17,850 Then why is she looking back at me like she's sorry? 103 00:06:18,410 --> 00:06:20,630 You're sorry, aren't you? Yes. Me? 104 00:06:21,050 --> 00:06:22,070 No, I'm not. 105 00:06:25,250 --> 00:06:31,970 To answer your question, for our purposes, first, let's stop the 106 00:06:33,070 --> 00:06:36,530 Then, we'll try to get you back on your medication. 107 00:06:40,330 --> 00:06:41,830 You need to hurry, Ellen. 108 00:06:43,390 --> 00:06:44,710 It's getting too loud. 109 00:06:53,070 --> 00:06:54,070 2 .5. 110 00:06:54,310 --> 00:06:55,970 And you're advising us to take it? 111 00:06:56,250 --> 00:07:00,190 I'm advising you to consider it. The verdict was $125 million. 112 00:07:00,470 --> 00:07:02,850 They have a motion for remitting their schedule for Wednesday. 113 00:07:03,090 --> 00:07:06,810 The judge will likely knock it down anyway. To 2 .5? I don't know. He could 114 00:07:06,810 --> 00:07:10,410 throw it out altogether. It could happen. I don't believe this. We won. 115 00:07:12,550 --> 00:07:18,080 Joshua, after more than 300 lawsuits and many adverse verdicts, The tobacco 116 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,460 companies have yet to pay out a cent in individual smoker cases. 117 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,200 It'll be the same here. If we're to get anything, it could be years. 118 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,620 2 .5 in the head is so much... No. 119 00:07:28,660 --> 00:07:29,660 Now I am angry. 120 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,600 I stuck it out through a trial. I got a verdict. 121 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,860 And now you are advising me to settle because the defendant won't honor that 122 00:07:36,860 --> 00:07:37,860 verdict. 123 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,680 It's outrageous. I don't disagree, but... I don't need the money. I live a 124 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:42,680 comfortable life. 125 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,080 If I have to wait another 10 years, I'll do it. 126 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:47,980 Joshua. I said no. 127 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:57,200 If they had offered me something at the beginning, before the trial, but they 128 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,200 offered nothing. 129 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:05,340 And now, after they lose, of all the arrogance, we 130 00:08:05,340 --> 00:08:06,340 beat them. 131 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,100 I will not settle for this. No, I will not. 132 00:08:16,970 --> 00:08:19,150 I direct the court's attention to Ford v. 133 00:08:19,350 --> 00:08:23,090 Wainwright, where the Supreme Court held that the Eighth Amendment prohibits the 134 00:08:23,090 --> 00:08:25,410 state from executing an insane inmate. 135 00:08:25,810 --> 00:08:29,890 Denise Freeman has been adjudicated to be insane, and therefore... First of 136 00:08:29,910 --> 00:08:31,850 Your Honor, that ruling is suspect. 137 00:08:32,190 --> 00:08:33,190 Suspect with whom? 138 00:08:33,530 --> 00:08:36,890 How about the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, who scoffed at the 139 00:08:37,070 --> 00:08:39,010 It's nevertheless the majority opinion. 140 00:08:39,270 --> 00:08:43,590 The court also held the defendant waived his right if he voluntarily went off 141 00:08:43,590 --> 00:08:45,430 medication. That was for competency. 142 00:08:45,630 --> 00:08:48,410 They never talked about waiver when it comes to punishment. 143 00:08:48,830 --> 00:08:50,810 Look, Wainwright makes clear. 144 00:08:51,250 --> 00:08:54,930 To kill an insane person has little retributive value. 145 00:08:55,150 --> 00:08:59,910 It presents no example to others, it is not a deterrent, and it offends 146 00:08:59,910 --> 00:09:04,550 humanity. And I would ask the court, as Justice Rehnquist does, where does it 147 00:09:04,550 --> 00:09:05,550 all stop? 148 00:09:06,370 --> 00:09:08,690 There has to be some finality to the law. 149 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:12,970 Ms. Freeman was judged sane at her trial. She was found guilty. 150 00:09:13,340 --> 00:09:17,160 She basically had another trial on the issue of punishment. Now here she comes 151 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,620 again saying she's insane, can't kill her. 152 00:09:19,940 --> 00:09:21,340 Suppose she loses this one. 153 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:25,940 What's to stop her from coming back tomorrow saying, now I'm really insane, 154 00:09:25,940 --> 00:09:26,940 the day after? 155 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,200 We could be conducting insanity trials in perpetuity. 156 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,080 Every death row inmate would be jumping up and down screaming, look at me, I'm 157 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,180 nuts, and here. 158 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,240 For a sane inmate to deliberately go off her medication for the express purpose 159 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,140 of making herself crazy so she can escape execution, that's a mockery. 160 00:09:45,740 --> 00:09:52,200 It may be a mockery, Mr. Parker, but as I interpret the Supreme Court, with all 161 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,680 due respect to Justice Rehnquist, we cannot execute the insane. 162 00:09:58,860 --> 00:10:00,740 I therefore stay the execution. 163 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,740 I petition a court to allow the state to medicate Miss Freeman. 164 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,840 The New Hampshire Supreme Court has previously held that a mentally ill 165 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,400 defendant can be medicated against his or her will if... Once again, that was 166 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,140 for trial. It was not for punishment, certainly not the death penalty. The 167 00:10:17,140 --> 00:10:19,920 rationale would support forced medication for punishment purposes. 168 00:10:20,300 --> 00:10:24,900 Your Honor, this is a separate issue, a very complicated one. I would request 169 00:10:24,900 --> 00:10:29,460 additional time to prepare. She's stalling. I am not stalling. It's called 170 00:10:29,460 --> 00:10:30,900 process. All right. 171 00:10:31,610 --> 00:10:35,710 We'll reconvene tomorrow at 9 a .m. on the issue of forced medication. 172 00:10:36,230 --> 00:10:38,310 Until then, we're adjourned. 173 00:10:45,330 --> 00:10:46,610 Now for the tough part. 174 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:51,990 They want to force -medicate you to make you sane so they can then carry out the 175 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:56,590 execution. As I said before, under the current law, they may be able to do 176 00:10:56,830 --> 00:10:57,830 It's unclear. 177 00:10:58,010 --> 00:10:59,330 You need to stop it. 178 00:10:59,870 --> 00:11:00,870 I can't. 179 00:11:01,580 --> 00:11:02,580 I can't. 180 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,400 It's getting worse. 181 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,920 Explain to me what's happening. I know, I know. 182 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,700 I wrote myself a letter before I went off the medication. 183 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:17,020 I told myself that what's happening is not really happening. So I know, I know. 184 00:11:18,980 --> 00:11:21,200 I'm not feeling very well, Amy. 185 00:11:27,300 --> 00:11:30,360 We can't put you back on the medication now. 186 00:11:30,810 --> 00:11:33,850 Because it would mean sanity and death. 187 00:11:36,130 --> 00:11:40,410 So, I need you to hang in there just a little longer. 188 00:11:55,550 --> 00:11:59,350 What do you mean he won't take it? He said no. If it means waiting ten years 189 00:11:59,350 --> 00:12:00,450 see a nickel, then so be it. 190 00:12:00,810 --> 00:12:02,490 The guy's dug in. He was adamant. 191 00:12:03,290 --> 00:12:04,290 Get him in here. 192 00:12:04,950 --> 00:12:07,290 Why? What do you want? I want to talk to the client. 193 00:12:07,650 --> 00:12:10,350 Bobby, we can't force him to accept an offer if he doesn't... It's not about 194 00:12:10,350 --> 00:12:12,750 forcing. It's about making him understand. 195 00:12:13,090 --> 00:12:13,989 We did that. 196 00:12:13,990 --> 00:12:14,990 He understood. 197 00:12:15,090 --> 00:12:17,790 Please have him come in for one more meeting. 198 00:12:21,690 --> 00:12:26,150 The idea of treating somebody, healing her, making her well. 199 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:30,100 so that you can then kill her, that itself is insane. 200 00:12:30,340 --> 00:12:32,040 The court has done this many times. 201 00:12:32,300 --> 00:12:36,700 It's one thing to force Medicaid so a defendant can help herself at trial. 202 00:12:36,700 --> 00:12:39,560 quite another to facilitate killing her. Hold on. 203 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:45,660 Mr. Parker, I don't mean to be picking on you, but I agree with Ms. Frutt here. 204 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,920 The idea of medicating a person against his or her will is in and of itself 205 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:56,440 suspect. To do so to make her fit for execution offends common sense as it 206 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,700 common decency. How decent is it to let these people manipulate the system, 207 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,040 distort the spirit of the law? Your motion is denied. 208 00:13:05,340 --> 00:13:06,340 Thank you. 209 00:13:07,020 --> 00:13:11,620 Your Honor, at this time, we would like a declaratory judgment that should my 210 00:13:11,620 --> 00:13:14,860 client go back on medication, making herself sane... 211 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,440 she will not be executed. 212 00:13:18,740 --> 00:13:19,860 Say that again? 213 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:25,520 To force my client to live out her life mentally ill, to be denied medication, 214 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,160 that certainly constitutes cruel and unusual punishment under the Eighth 215 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,240 Amendment. Counsel, what are you trying to pull? 216 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:36,620 Your client is choosing to be off the medication. 217 00:13:37,020 --> 00:13:40,340 I would argue that she really doesn't have such a choice, Your Honor, if the 218 00:13:40,340 --> 00:13:42,920 consequence of being medicated is death. 219 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:47,940 You've got to be kidding. You can't say to a thick inmate, we're willing to 220 00:13:47,940 --> 00:13:50,060 treat you, but if you get well, you die. 221 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:55,420 If that's her option, she's basically being denied treatment. It's cruel and 222 00:13:55,420 --> 00:13:56,420 unusual. 223 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,280 That is so ingenious. I'm surprised no lawyer has thought of it before. 224 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,320 But I'm not going to let you have it both ways. 225 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,420 As long as she's insane, she lives. 226 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,240 If she becomes sane again, she dies. 227 00:14:11,850 --> 00:14:12,870 The choice is hers. 228 00:14:13,390 --> 00:14:17,170 Or, since you're the guardian ad litem, I guess it's yours. 229 00:14:19,290 --> 00:14:20,310 We're adjourned. 230 00:14:38,950 --> 00:14:40,270 The news is good. 231 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,000 And bad. 232 00:14:42,860 --> 00:14:45,860 The judge ruled that they can't force medicate you. 233 00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:48,380 What about my pills? When can I take my pills? 234 00:14:48,980 --> 00:14:49,980 That's the bad news. 235 00:14:50,980 --> 00:14:56,080 If you go back on the medication, they'll execute you. Well, I can't stay 236 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,840 this. It's too loud. 237 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,740 Denise, I'd like to work on an appeal. It's too loud. You said that you would 238 00:15:02,740 --> 00:15:06,940 make it stop. I will. Eleanor, it needs to be now. I can't. No! 239 00:15:07,460 --> 00:15:08,860 No! Then let me die. 240 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,560 I'm choosing to be executed. It's actually not your choice. 241 00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:16,780 You have no capacity. Yeah, you said that you would make it stop. 242 00:15:17,020 --> 00:15:18,020 It's loud. 243 00:15:20,340 --> 00:15:24,240 We can at least get her to a hospital now, right? I mean, she's... Shut up! 244 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,940 shut up! You shut up! 245 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,760 You bitch is against me. 246 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:43,340 Mr. and Mrs. Berry, Bobby Donald, thanks for coming in. I'm not sure what the 247 00:15:43,340 --> 00:15:44,340 purpose is. 248 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,660 Eugene tells me you want us to settle, but I've made our feelings quite clear. 249 00:15:47,980 --> 00:15:50,060 You're not going to get any money, Mr. Berry. 250 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:51,840 Not by pursuing this. 251 00:15:52,540 --> 00:15:56,420 The alcohol industry... Can't afford to set a precedent of losing, yes. 252 00:15:57,180 --> 00:15:58,480 Eugene has already told me that. 253 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,720 But as I told him, I don't care if I never see any money. Yes, but we do. 254 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,620 I'm sorry? We took this case on a contingency, Mr. Berry. 255 00:16:07,329 --> 00:16:11,330 There's an implied contract of good faith. Good faith requires you to accept 256 00:16:11,330 --> 00:16:12,330 reasonable settlement. 257 00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:16,610 Failure to do so may give us a cause of action against you. 258 00:16:16,850 --> 00:16:21,150 Bobby. 825 ,000 of 2 .5 belongs to us, Mr. Berry. 259 00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:24,550 And I'm not going to let you give that away because you're too emotional. 260 00:16:24,570 --> 00:16:25,570 Excuse me, Eugene. 261 00:16:27,550 --> 00:16:29,410 Lawsuits are about money. 262 00:16:29,950 --> 00:16:34,750 You hired us to get you money. We prosecuted this claim for free on a 263 00:16:34,750 --> 00:16:38,870 contingency. We took a chance on a back end, and now we want our payoff. 264 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:40,350 What are you talking about? 265 00:16:40,570 --> 00:16:44,430 The choice to settle or not to settle legally belongs to you. But if you 266 00:16:44,430 --> 00:16:49,350 not to and you end up getting nothing, if we end up getting nothing, this firm 267 00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:53,210 will file a claim against you for $825 ,000. 268 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,260 And please keep in mind, Mr. Berry, when you are the defendant, lawyers won't 269 00:16:58,260 --> 00:16:59,900 represent you on a contingency. 270 00:17:03,100 --> 00:17:06,260 Turning this settlement down will cost you. 271 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,420 You need to be aware of that. 272 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:14,960 Thank you for your time. 273 00:17:37,130 --> 00:17:39,390 You could lose your bar card over that one. I don't think so. 274 00:17:40,030 --> 00:17:41,470 Eugene, we need cash. 275 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:45,770 Threatening a lawsuit against a client to get cash? The client needed a dose of 276 00:17:45,770 --> 00:17:48,130 reality. Well, why didn't you tell me or Jimmy that's what you were planning? 277 00:17:48,130 --> 00:17:50,550 Because I was taking you off the hook. The fact that you didn't know what the 278 00:17:50,550 --> 00:17:52,750 meeting was about makes me the only bad guy. 279 00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:55,410 Well, your threat to Sue is completely frivolous. 280 00:17:55,910 --> 00:17:59,070 I told the client as much, and he maintains his refusal to settle. 281 00:17:59,610 --> 00:18:02,670 We go in tomorrow on the defendant's motion to knock the verdict down. 282 00:18:04,370 --> 00:18:06,510 Bobby, you and I have been estranged lately. 283 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,580 A lot of it's been over the Catholic Church. 284 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,520 But at least we've managed to be honest with one another. So I'm going to be 285 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,520 honest now. 286 00:18:15,340 --> 00:18:19,160 What you just did, it wasn't in keeping with being an ethical person. 287 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,720 It wasn't in keeping with being an honorable lawyer. And from what I know 288 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,780 your faith, it wasn't in keeping with being a good Catholic. 289 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,980 You humiliated this firm with that little performance. 290 00:18:32,540 --> 00:18:33,580 And more than that... 291 00:18:35,470 --> 00:18:36,470 You embarrassed yourself. 292 00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:49,890 She started banging her head against the bars and looked like she was trying to 293 00:18:49,890 --> 00:18:50,890 gouge your eyes. 294 00:18:51,410 --> 00:18:52,510 Is she sedated? 295 00:18:53,810 --> 00:18:54,830 Not yet. 296 00:18:55,610 --> 00:18:58,310 She's in restraints. She wanted to talk to you first. 297 00:19:01,510 --> 00:19:02,510 Jeanine? 298 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,740 I want the drugs. I can't live like this, Eleanor. 299 00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:11,200 Try to calm down. Don't tell me this. 300 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,480 I can't live like this. Denise, if you go back on the medicine. I know. 301 00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:22,600 I know. I need you to listen to me. If you go back on the drugs, they will put 302 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:23,600 you to death. 303 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,180 I can't listen. 304 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:27,120 It's too loud. 305 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:31,740 I want the medicine. Let me say that it's your decision. 306 00:19:32,510 --> 00:19:36,070 Helena, give it to me! I would be signing your death warrant. 307 00:19:37,750 --> 00:19:43,630 Give her the drugs. 308 00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:50,470 Helena, are you sure? Of course I'm not sure. Give her the drugs. 309 00:19:53,210 --> 00:19:54,210 Now! 310 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,480 Great. 311 00:20:15,060 --> 00:20:17,020 I just helped kill my client. 312 00:20:34,260 --> 00:20:35,260 Hey. 313 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,040 Hey. 314 00:20:38,940 --> 00:20:40,380 Great news from the hospital. 315 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:43,610 Denise is feeling well enough to be executed. 316 00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:47,290 You come up with anything? 317 00:20:48,250 --> 00:20:53,070 Well, only thing left is to argue it's unconstitutional to kill her on Eighth 318 00:20:53,070 --> 00:20:54,070 Amendment grounds. 319 00:20:55,050 --> 00:20:59,490 That's sort of been tried, Jamie. Well, instead of arguing the death penalty is 320 00:20:59,490 --> 00:21:04,930 per se unconstitutional, you could argue it's cruel and unusual as applied to 321 00:21:04,930 --> 00:21:05,930 Denise Freeman. 322 00:21:09,090 --> 00:21:10,630 It's our only shot, Eleanor. 323 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:20,919 Hey. Hey. 324 00:21:22,820 --> 00:21:24,440 The clients had a change of heart. 325 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,160 They agreed to settle. 326 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,620 We chipped the number up to 3 .2. 327 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,720 We're closed. 328 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:33,520 Really? 329 00:21:34,260 --> 00:21:36,480 What changed their minds? I guess you did. 330 00:21:37,700 --> 00:21:38,700 Congratulations. 331 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,300 It's a good settlement, Jimmy. 332 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,560 For you, maybe. 333 00:21:41,820 --> 00:21:42,820 For the client. 334 00:21:43,940 --> 00:21:47,020 Well, that would be a lucky coincidence then, wouldn't it? 335 00:21:49,550 --> 00:21:52,470 Don't pretend you had the client's interest in mind, Bobby. 336 00:21:53,390 --> 00:21:54,770 Maybe I had yours. 337 00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:58,130 And Rebecca's. And Eleanor's. 338 00:22:00,130 --> 00:22:02,790 You think it's easy running this place, Jimmy? 339 00:22:03,570 --> 00:22:05,070 You like taking home a salary? 340 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:06,270 You want to see the books? 341 00:22:08,250 --> 00:22:12,850 I don't doubt in your heart you were serving the firm. 342 00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:18,790 But I guess... I just wish... 343 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:25,140 when serving us, you'd consider what at heart this firm is. 344 00:22:29,820 --> 00:22:34,600 Anyway, congratulations again on the settlement. 345 00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:46,660 I'm sorry. You now want to challenge the constitutionality of the death penalty? 346 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:51,420 As it applies to my client, yes. And the show goes on. I object to that. This is 347 00:22:51,420 --> 00:22:52,259 not a show. 348 00:22:52,260 --> 00:22:56,320 My client is scheduled to be injected with lethal poison the day after 349 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,820 Your client murdered two young boys and has since been on a mission to 350 00:22:59,820 --> 00:23:03,260 manipulate the system. She is entitled to be heard, Mr. Parker. 351 00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:04,500 All right. 352 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,960 Ms. Frutt, I must admit I share Mr. 353 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:09,540 Parker's exasperation. 354 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,800 Your Honor. 355 00:23:11,050 --> 00:23:14,730 You represent Denise Freeman's last chance at life. 356 00:23:15,370 --> 00:23:18,390 It is certainly within your discretion to let her die. 357 00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:23,930 But it would be an abuse of that discretion to do so without at least 358 00:23:23,930 --> 00:23:26,930 from her attorney. I've done nothing but hear from you. Damn it! 359 00:23:28,430 --> 00:23:33,230 Say no if you want, but I would like to be heard however much it exasperates the 360 00:23:33,230 --> 00:23:34,230 court's patience. 361 00:23:36,610 --> 00:23:38,150 Speak to me like that again. 362 00:23:38,730 --> 00:23:40,810 You'll get a jail cell of your very own. 363 00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:46,190 All right. 364 00:23:47,410 --> 00:23:50,570 Let's go back in. I'll hear you. I need time to prepare. 365 00:23:53,970 --> 00:23:55,130 Nine o 'clock tomorrow. 366 00:23:56,550 --> 00:23:57,890 Last call, Counsel. 367 00:24:02,150 --> 00:24:05,850 I need you to pull up Furman. Check the concurring opinions. See if there's any 368 00:24:05,850 --> 00:24:07,190 language we can make use of. 369 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,480 Then pull up Greg, look for any dissenting opinions. 370 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,800 Are you holding up? 371 00:24:13,780 --> 00:24:14,659 I'm fine. 372 00:24:14,660 --> 00:24:17,840 I'm going to go see Denise. You get the cases. I'll meet you back at the hotel. 373 00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:19,060 Okay. 374 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,100 Is the ACLU coming in with you? 375 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:31,060 Well... No. 376 00:24:32,820 --> 00:24:36,320 So you're going to try to overturn the death penalty all by yourself? 377 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:43,260 You could go back off the medication, though I'm not even sure... I won't do 378 00:24:43,260 --> 00:24:44,260 that again. 379 00:24:45,820 --> 00:24:49,160 I either live on the meds or I die. 380 00:24:51,380 --> 00:24:56,240 So, Eleanor, exactly how good are you? 381 00:24:57,540 --> 00:24:58,800 I'm not this good. 382 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,540 Obviously, Denise, this is the ultimate Hail Mary. 383 00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:13,250 I will do my very best, but we're at the end. 384 00:25:16,410 --> 00:25:17,470 I'm afraid so. 385 00:25:21,530 --> 00:25:27,570 Well, I don't know how to begin thanking you for it. 386 00:25:28,990 --> 00:25:30,390 We don't have to get into that. 387 00:25:33,610 --> 00:25:36,350 I've arranged for you to be present in court. 388 00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:40,730 So, one last doubting. 389 00:25:42,050 --> 00:25:43,150 Should I try to escape? 390 00:25:48,550 --> 00:25:55,450 Well, I should probably get to work on whatever it is I'm going 391 00:25:55,450 --> 00:25:56,450 to say. 392 00:26:01,450 --> 00:26:02,690 I'll see you tomorrow, okay? 393 00:26:33,610 --> 00:26:34,610 Be seated. 394 00:26:40,830 --> 00:26:42,930 Okay, Ms. Frutt, I'm listening. 395 00:26:52,430 --> 00:26:56,330 Whether one agrees or disagrees with the death penalty. One does. 396 00:26:59,110 --> 00:27:01,150 It is reserved as punishment. 397 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,240 for the worst of criminals, the most terrible. 398 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,920 Denise Freeman doesn't fall into that category. 399 00:27:09,340 --> 00:27:15,260 Of course, her acts of murder were heinous, against God and especially 400 00:27:15,260 --> 00:27:17,260 two innocent young children. 401 00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:21,320 But Denise Freeman was mentally ill. 402 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,320 Though judged legally sane by a jury, she clearly wasn't. 403 00:27:27,150 --> 00:27:31,630 She was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia shortly after the trial. 404 00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:37,430 Medication not only successfully treated this disease, but she developed into a 405 00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:41,990 role model offering such profound public service to others that Stephen 406 00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:46,890 Marshall, the warden at the Goffstown Correctional Facility, has petitioned 407 00:27:46,890 --> 00:27:48,430 to save her life. 408 00:27:49,310 --> 00:27:54,070 Had Miss Freeman received an adequate defense, she likely... Counsel. 409 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,380 This is neither a retrial of the facts nor your client's defense. 410 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,080 I understand that, Your Honor. 411 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,680 But you are permitted to consider that the finding of sanity was made by 12 412 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:12,220 laypeople with almost no psychiatric testimony introduced on my client's 413 00:28:12,820 --> 00:28:18,340 You are allowed to consider that Denise Freeman was poor, that her murder trial 414 00:28:18,340 --> 00:28:23,880 lasted a total of three days, her defense taking up one day. 415 00:28:24,650 --> 00:28:30,770 you are allowed to consider that the overwhelming medical evidence found her 416 00:28:30,770 --> 00:28:31,770 be insane. 417 00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:37,610 And as such, I would submit you are certainly allowed to conclude that 418 00:28:37,610 --> 00:28:44,610 Freeman does not fall into the most terrible of criminals, the ones for 419 00:28:44,610 --> 00:28:47,090 we reserve the penalty of death. 420 00:28:47,890 --> 00:28:53,170 And I would also remind the court that as horrible as these murders were, 421 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,380 They did not involve rape or torture. 422 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:02,500 There was no evidence of any physical suffering. The deaths were 423 00:29:03,180 --> 00:29:07,540 She did not act out of hatred or evil. 424 00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:15,860 If you are to execute a mentally ill person who kills painlessly, without 425 00:29:15,860 --> 00:29:22,340 judgment, without premeditation, then we are to say all murderers should be 426 00:29:22,340 --> 00:29:23,340 executed. 427 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:29,260 And we don't say that, Your Honor. Instead, we reserve the penalty of death 428 00:29:29,260 --> 00:29:32,180 the most evil, the most dastardly. 429 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:37,720 Denise Freeman simply does not fall into that category. 430 00:29:38,060 --> 00:29:42,980 And her punishment should accordingly be reduced to life imprisonment. 431 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:07,080 We judge the criminal act, not the criminal actor. 432 00:30:08,460 --> 00:30:12,240 When a young child is murdered, that's the most terrible of crimes. 433 00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:14,240 When two are murdered. 434 00:30:16,140 --> 00:30:18,640 This murderer was judged sane, Your Honor. 435 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,300 Ms. Frutt knows this. 436 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,820 She's here mostly because she's against the death penalty. 437 00:30:24,170 --> 00:30:28,250 Objection? I say this only to put her eloquent pleas in a proper context. 438 00:30:28,510 --> 00:30:32,870 The commitment that she feigns towards Denise Freeman's life is inextricably 439 00:30:32,870 --> 00:30:35,290 bound up with her opposition to the death penalty. 440 00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:39,930 Mr. Parker, I'll ask you to confine your remarks to this case only. 441 00:30:40,890 --> 00:30:42,010 All right, Your Honor. 442 00:30:42,990 --> 00:30:47,450 Ms. Frutt said that these crimes didn't involve much suffering. 443 00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:52,790 Here sit Arnold and Cindy Graham, the boys' parents. 444 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,620 This woman was at the park that day. 445 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,980 She saw the heads of her only two children explode. 446 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,080 They've had to go through trials and tribulations for eight long years, 447 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,180 for this day for closure, only to have to come to this room to listen to a 448 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:12,180 defense attorney claim that the murders weren't terrible enough. 449 00:31:12,780 --> 00:31:14,540 Not enough suffering. 450 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,120 No evil at work. 451 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,440 They've had to witness a last -minute gross distortion of our legal system 452 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,660 the killer goes off medication for the purpose of becoming too insane to 453 00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:26,660 execute. 454 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,880 I asked before. I'll ask you again. 455 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,640 Where does it stop? 456 00:31:34,980 --> 00:31:37,280 When I grow up, I want to be vice president. 457 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,600 Vice presidents get to have girlfriends, and people don't make a big deal. 458 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,100 You're going to have a girlfriend? 459 00:31:42,540 --> 00:31:44,380 Lots of them. I got that saying. 460 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,500 Girls like it. What thang? 461 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,820 That thang I got. 462 00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:49,520 Timothy Graham for VP. 463 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,300 Candidate with thang. 464 00:31:56,460 --> 00:31:58,860 Tim Graham won't get to run for vice president. 465 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,060 In the last eight years, Denise Freeman got to laugh. 466 00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:07,360 Timothy and Ryan Graham didn't. 467 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,720 Denise Freeman experienced joy on occasion. 468 00:32:11,740 --> 00:32:13,200 Timothy and Ryan didn't. 469 00:32:14,540 --> 00:32:16,200 Denise Freeman got to live. 470 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,720 Timothy and Ryan didn't. 471 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,520 Society can only express its feelings for crime by the punishment it meets 472 00:32:26,380 --> 00:32:31,020 To let her live now is to ignore and prolong the misery of these parents. 473 00:32:31,980 --> 00:32:38,740 And to say that the life of Denise Freeman matters more than those two 474 00:32:38,740 --> 00:32:39,740 children. 475 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,160 Ms. Frutt, I'll give you the final word. 476 00:33:07,060 --> 00:33:08,540 I have a two -year -old daughter. 477 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,360 If somebody were to shoot her dead on a jungle gym, I would not only want that 478 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,660 person killed, I would like the satisfaction of doing it myself. 479 00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:20,000 I would even want that killer to suffer. 480 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,720 It's human. 481 00:33:23,180 --> 00:33:24,960 But it isn't right. 482 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,420 One of the reasons I'm here today is because my daughter is still alive. 483 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,960 And I worry about the world we pass on to her. 484 00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:44,300 I plan to teach my little girl that it is never okay to commit murder, though 485 00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:45,960 the state says otherwise. 486 00:33:46,660 --> 00:33:49,100 I plan to teach my daughter... 487 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,800 that we do not respond to violence with more violence or vengeance, though the 488 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,420 state says otherwise. 489 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:02,900 I plan to teach her that life, every life, is sacred, though the state 490 00:34:02,900 --> 00:34:04,160 says otherwise. 491 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,400 In truth, the murder being advocated by the government today is far more 492 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,900 premeditated than the ones committed by Denise Freeman. The murder being 493 00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:21,020 advocated by the government today is with clarity of mind, with reason, and 494 00:34:21,020 --> 00:34:26,679 much more hatred in the heart than was true of Denise Freeman. The murder being 495 00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:29,820 advocated by the government today is one of ceremony. 496 00:34:33,180 --> 00:34:36,960 Killing Denise Freeman might bring closure for the victim's family. 497 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,800 It will no doubt bring cheers from much of the community. 498 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,699 But it isn't right. 499 00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:53,739 When I was a kid, I memorized Clarence Darrow's closing argument on Leopold and 500 00:34:53,739 --> 00:34:54,739 Logue. 501 00:34:54,980 --> 00:34:57,120 It's what made me want to become a lawyer. 502 00:34:58,060 --> 00:35:01,320 I often wondered if I'd ever have a case like that. 503 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:08,500 where I would stand before a judge and ask him to spare another human being's 504 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:09,500 life. 505 00:35:10,180 --> 00:35:15,640 I can't improve on Clarence Darrow, so I will finish with what he said. 506 00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:20,140 I am pleading for the future. 507 00:35:21,660 --> 00:35:26,880 I am pleading for a time when hatred and cruelty will not control the hearts of 508 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:33,850 men, when we can learn by reason and judgment And understanding and 509 00:35:33,850 --> 00:35:38,230 faith that all life is worth saving. 510 00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:44,210 And that mercy is the highest attribute of man. 511 00:36:15,310 --> 00:36:21,990 If I killed your daughter, do you think you could find it in your heart to 512 00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:23,450 argue for my life? 513 00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:25,630 Absolutely not. 514 00:36:28,410 --> 00:36:34,890 So all that talk about kindness overcoming cruelty, 515 00:36:35,090 --> 00:36:36,450 I believe in it. 516 00:36:37,290 --> 00:36:38,290 Totally. 517 00:36:40,510 --> 00:36:42,750 Except if anyone harmed my daughter. 518 00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:53,880 You didn't quote my favorite part. 519 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,640 I'm sorry. 520 00:36:56,580 --> 00:36:57,860 Darrow's closing. 521 00:36:58,340 --> 00:37:04,780 He talked about how we used to hang and behead and 522 00:37:04,780 --> 00:37:08,760 torture and cut into pieces. 523 00:37:10,420 --> 00:37:13,540 All these inconceivable punishments. 524 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,600 But then we began to evolve as a nation. 525 00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:24,950 to a point where now we look back on those things with horror. 526 00:37:26,930 --> 00:37:33,530 He said the future was on his side, because one day we too would look back 527 00:37:33,530 --> 00:37:38,530 at capital punishment with embarrassment and shame. 528 00:37:52,650 --> 00:37:55,570 We need the future to be today. 529 00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:05,070 Judge is coming in. 530 00:38:15,450 --> 00:38:16,450 Be seated. 531 00:38:24,810 --> 00:38:26,010 Stand up, Ms. Freeman. 532 00:38:30,090 --> 00:38:36,370 Ms. Frutt, as much as you'd like me to overturn the death penalty, I'm not 533 00:38:36,370 --> 00:38:37,370 to do that. 534 00:38:37,450 --> 00:38:43,610 Anybody who murders two innocent children, I have a difficult time having 535 00:38:43,610 --> 00:38:46,010 person's attorney preach to me on morality. 536 00:38:47,570 --> 00:38:51,610 But I have to acknowledge the evidence is overwhelming. 537 00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:58,880 If not insane, Ms. Freeman was at least mentally infirm at the time she 538 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,880 committed those heinous acts. 539 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:07,660 I therefore find that the death penalty is not appropriate here. 540 00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:12,380 And the execution is hereby stayed. 541 00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:16,300 That's all. 45767

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