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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,000 on the practice. 2 00:00:01,060 --> 00:00:05,000 Dozens of kids have been abused in this state alone and the church knew what was 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,039 going on, did nothing about it, and let it continue. 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,200 And what do you propose we do, Eugene? 5 00:00:10,540 --> 00:00:15,360 I propose you stop giving the current institution the money. I propose you be 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,360 more angry. 7 00:00:17,420 --> 00:00:21,520 Have you ever thought about leaving the church over? 8 00:00:21,860 --> 00:00:24,200 Bobby, the church is not just the priests. 9 00:00:24,540 --> 00:00:25,580 It's you and me. 10 00:00:26,180 --> 00:00:27,600 We are the church. 11 00:00:28,250 --> 00:00:29,750 I'm leaving the church, Father. 12 00:00:30,010 --> 00:00:31,870 What do you mean? 13 00:00:32,150 --> 00:00:38,170 The sex abuse scandal. The offending clergy makes up a microscopic portion of 14 00:00:38,170 --> 00:00:39,029 the priesthood. 15 00:00:39,030 --> 00:00:44,770 But the church is concealment. It's enabling these priests to destroy so 16 00:00:44,770 --> 00:00:45,770 young lives. 17 00:00:45,910 --> 00:00:48,730 You can't just leave. 18 00:00:49,390 --> 00:00:50,470 Goodbye, Father. 19 00:00:57,740 --> 00:01:04,060 We've been doing it in this very church for 17 years, Eleanor. The problem is it 20 00:01:04,060 --> 00:01:07,360 made the news, and it's open season on aberrant religion. 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,280 Our faith is partly Roman Catholic. 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,260 It's not nearly as aberrant as you'd like. 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,780 Sacrificing animals is out there, Stanley, at least in the eyes of 24 00:01:17,780 --> 00:01:19,680 America. Let's just be clear about that. 25 00:01:20,020 --> 00:01:24,800 I was just saying that we all have our rituals. 26 00:01:25,710 --> 00:01:27,310 Look at Christianity and communion. 27 00:01:27,630 --> 00:01:31,070 They drink the blood of Christ and they eat his body. 28 00:01:31,270 --> 00:01:32,390 That's symbolic. 29 00:01:32,910 --> 00:01:35,230 You actually kill the animal. 30 00:01:35,490 --> 00:01:36,369 I don't understand. 31 00:01:36,370 --> 00:01:41,650 The exact same issue the Supreme Court already ruled on and we won. The 32 00:01:41,650 --> 00:01:46,510 difference here is the law is facially neutral. It's not targeted at religion, 33 00:01:46,570 --> 00:01:48,590 but only to stop cruelty. 34 00:01:48,970 --> 00:01:52,590 Even so... Look, I think we should consider a plea. 35 00:01:52,910 --> 00:01:53,910 Fine. 36 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,400 I'll admit to the facts. 37 00:01:55,940 --> 00:01:57,460 I did what they say I did. 38 00:01:57,980 --> 00:02:02,840 But I will not stand up in a court of law and acknowledge any form of guilt. 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,240 That's not going to do it. 40 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,120 Public opinion is very against you here. 41 00:02:08,419 --> 00:02:13,700 Well, if I say I'm guilty, it's the equivalent of apologizing for my 42 00:02:14,260 --> 00:02:15,260 Add to that. 43 00:02:15,820 --> 00:02:17,240 They can shut our doors. 44 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:21,060 We need a victory here, Eleanor. 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,780 I can't promise it. 46 00:02:23,210 --> 00:02:24,210 It's a goat. 47 00:02:24,650 --> 00:02:27,810 For God's sake, they're gonna put me in jail for killing a goat. 48 00:02:28,190 --> 00:02:29,390 That's what I'm telling you. 49 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:31,150 They will. 50 00:03:23,930 --> 00:03:25,170 He's insisting on trial? 51 00:03:25,370 --> 00:03:27,370 I tried to dissuade him, trust me. 52 00:03:27,690 --> 00:03:29,790 Donnie, I'm Dolan. Are you free in case I need some research? 53 00:03:30,130 --> 00:03:31,950 I'm free. Free exercise clothes. 54 00:03:32,170 --> 00:03:34,490 Why do we seem to be getting so many cases about religion? 55 00:03:34,750 --> 00:03:37,370 Hey, if I could make this about religion, we'd win. 56 00:03:37,770 --> 00:03:40,910 Unfortunately, the statute goes to cruelty and the language is neutral. 57 00:03:41,330 --> 00:03:42,670 What about a de facto burden? 58 00:03:43,230 --> 00:03:47,670 That's possible for appeal, but... Bobby, Judge Swackheim's office. You're 59 00:03:47,670 --> 00:03:48,830 wanted. Now. 60 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:51,090 What do you mean? He wants you in chambers. 61 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,460 He says to bring a friend. 62 00:03:56,700 --> 00:04:01,840 His lawyer fell out. The case has already been continued six times, and 63 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,340 dead soon. Why us? 64 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,000 Helen Gamble is the DA, and you've had experience against her. 65 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,000 Also, you're on the short list of lawyers willing to defend scum. Meet 66 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,380 client, and I'll see you in the courtroom tomorrow. 67 00:04:14,860 --> 00:04:15,860 What's the case? 68 00:04:16,220 --> 00:04:17,220 Statutory rape. 69 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,320 I don't want it. 70 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:19,399 I didn't ask. 71 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:21,279 Ten o 'clock tomorrow morning. 72 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,080 And the court thanks you both. 73 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,020 You were doing a news piece? 74 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,460 Yes, we heard what was going on and we were able to sneak in a camera. 75 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Mr. Danforth, could you tell the court exactly what you observed? 76 00:04:36,740 --> 00:04:40,240 We saw that man, the defendant, kill a baby goat. 77 00:04:41,060 --> 00:04:42,700 He basically slaughtered it. 78 00:04:43,260 --> 00:04:45,840 Okay, I'm going to play a portion of this news piece. 79 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Objection. 80 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,480 Overruled. And I'm going to ask you, sir, if it fairly reflects what you saw 81 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,520 that day. Your Honor, I renew my objection. 82 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,400 Counsel. We have stipulated that my client causes animals to be sacrificed 83 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,660 part of religious worship. 84 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,520 This tape is only being introduced to inflame the jury. The charge isn't 85 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,000 killing. It's cruelty. In order to make that finding... Then let him describe 86 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,360 what he saw. We don't need to see his media -slanted version of it. Ms. Fred, 87 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,540 think we can handle the footage. 88 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,320 If you think it doesn't accurately portray the events, you can cross 89 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:19,550 Thank you, Your Honor. 90 00:05:24,750 --> 00:05:28,390 Okay. You can see he has a baby goat in his hand. 91 00:05:30,370 --> 00:05:31,370 And it's alive. 92 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:32,990 Not for long, it isn't. 93 00:05:33,850 --> 00:05:34,850 Keep watching. 94 00:05:44,070 --> 00:05:45,070 What's he doing now? 95 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,880 He's letting the blood drain into a bowl. 96 00:05:48,340 --> 00:05:49,340 It's pretty disgusting. 97 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,200 Objection. Sustained. 98 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:53,760 That's all I have. 99 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,000 I saw your news piece. 100 00:05:58,540 --> 00:06:03,360 You seemed pretty outraged, Mr. Danforth. I was. I found what your 101 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,360 be outrageous. 102 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:05,600 I see. 103 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:06,680 Do you eat meat? 104 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,040 Do I eat meat? 105 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:09,400 Yes. Ever have a hamburger? 106 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,020 Yes, I eat meat. Do you know how cows are killed? 107 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:14,680 I believe they're slaughtered. 108 00:06:14,910 --> 00:06:18,650 Would it surprise you to know that their throats are slit much in the same way 109 00:06:18,650 --> 00:06:19,609 as this goat died? 110 00:06:19,610 --> 00:06:22,610 I'm not a fan of slaughterhouses, but at least the animal was killed for 111 00:06:22,610 --> 00:06:23,610 sustenance. 112 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:24,990 We eat cows. 113 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:29,610 So it's not the manner in which the animal is killed, but it's what it's 114 00:06:29,610 --> 00:06:33,490 for. Look, I'm not going down this road. I just filmed it. 115 00:06:34,090 --> 00:06:36,150 It's up to you people to decide if it's illegal. 116 00:06:36,490 --> 00:06:37,490 Fair enough. 117 00:06:37,590 --> 00:06:42,670 By the way, do you know what became of the goat after the ceremony? 118 00:06:43,710 --> 00:06:44,710 No, I do not. 119 00:06:44,870 --> 00:06:45,870 They ate it. 120 00:06:46,710 --> 00:06:47,830 Does that make a difference? 121 00:06:51,090 --> 00:06:52,430 I didn't force him. 122 00:06:53,510 --> 00:06:58,290 I never forced him. Mr. Orbis, he's 13 years old. 123 00:06:58,890 --> 00:07:01,670 Whether you forced him or not... We were very close. 124 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:03,670 That's not a defense either. 125 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:04,990 I was good to him. 126 00:07:05,590 --> 00:07:06,590 Very good. 127 00:07:06,890 --> 00:07:08,030 I'd help him with his homework. 128 00:07:09,010 --> 00:07:11,310 And I gave him money. 129 00:07:11,550 --> 00:07:12,830 In exchange for sex? 130 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,840 No. He did work at my house. 131 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:18,600 He'd help clean. 132 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,360 And we became close. 133 00:07:24,060 --> 00:07:25,220 I loved him. 134 00:07:26,860 --> 00:07:28,400 And he loved me. 135 00:07:30,340 --> 00:07:31,720 He still loves me. 136 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:33,280 I know. 137 00:07:34,220 --> 00:07:36,580 He's the lead prosecutorial witness. 138 00:07:36,940 --> 00:07:39,780 He's only doing this now because his mother is making him. 139 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,780 She told him he can't come over anymore. 140 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:45,000 She's making him do this. 141 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,740 I love him, and I believe he loves me. 142 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:53,720 It's his mother. 143 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,700 Did your other lawyers ever discuss a plea bargain? 144 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,420 I can't do prison. 145 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,860 They kill child molesters in prison. Prison is unacceptable. 146 00:08:05,980 --> 00:08:09,400 I'm telling you, it's the mother. 147 00:08:15,050 --> 00:08:18,830 Contact the kids' school. Teachers, principal, guidance counselor. I'll try 148 00:08:18,830 --> 00:08:19,830 interview the social worker. 149 00:08:22,250 --> 00:08:23,850 Who do you want? 150 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:26,390 The mother or the boy? 151 00:08:27,010 --> 00:08:30,830 Sorry? This case is pretty much two witnesses. The mother and the victim. 152 00:08:30,830 --> 00:08:31,830 one do you want? 153 00:08:32,070 --> 00:08:35,370 Personally, I think it's a mistake for the client to go in with two lawyers. 154 00:08:35,650 --> 00:08:37,190 Makes it seem... Nice try. 155 00:08:37,450 --> 00:08:40,490 But since this goes tomorrow, there's no time. We've got to split this up. 156 00:08:41,470 --> 00:08:42,470 Who do you want? 157 00:08:42,809 --> 00:08:43,809 I'll take the mother. 158 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,140 Great. Our pedophile has two priors. Did you know that? 159 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:50,800 He's sick. 160 00:08:51,380 --> 00:08:52,380 What's your point? 161 00:08:52,420 --> 00:08:57,840 My point is, how effective can we really be expected to be on one day's notice? 162 00:08:58,020 --> 00:08:59,020 I don't want to hear that. 163 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,620 We do our best. 164 00:09:01,780 --> 00:09:02,780 Fine. 165 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,100 There is a problem here. 166 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,740 We can win this. 167 00:09:15,690 --> 00:09:20,210 He was starting to go down in school, which I couldn't understand because he's 168 00:09:20,210 --> 00:09:21,310 always been a good student. 169 00:09:21,770 --> 00:09:23,870 Well, did you talk to your son about this? 170 00:09:24,090 --> 00:09:26,570 Yes. He said there was nothing wrong. 171 00:09:26,970 --> 00:09:29,810 I said I thought he was spending too much time with him. Him? 172 00:09:30,270 --> 00:09:31,270 The defendant. 173 00:09:31,970 --> 00:09:34,250 He'd hired Justin to do some yard work. 174 00:09:35,110 --> 00:09:36,210 Then they became friends. 175 00:09:37,850 --> 00:09:39,490 He was over there all the time, it seemed. 176 00:09:39,690 --> 00:09:43,050 Did you suspect anything sinister about this relationship? 177 00:09:43,590 --> 00:09:48,780 No. I had no idea that he had this porno film collection or that previously 178 00:09:48,780 --> 00:09:51,220 he... Could you tell us what happened to your son? 179 00:09:51,860 --> 00:09:56,400 Well, with his grades getting worse, I grounded him. I told him he had to come 180 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:57,580 home directly after school. 181 00:09:58,060 --> 00:10:01,560 May I ask, where was Justin's father? 182 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:08,500 We've split up and he doesn't... He's an absent father, which is another reason 183 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:11,280 why I thought he bonded with the defendant. 184 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,080 Okay. 185 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,360 What happened after you grounded Justin? 186 00:10:16,780 --> 00:10:20,960 Well, I didn't see any improvement at school, so I started to give him other 187 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,080 consequences, like no baseball, no television. 188 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,840 I even took away his stereo. 189 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:28,300 Nothing seemed to work. 190 00:10:28,700 --> 00:10:34,480 And then finally, he told me what was going on. Which was? 191 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:40,080 He told me that he was having sex with a defendant, 192 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,840 and that he was... 193 00:10:43,130 --> 00:10:46,190 feeling shame over it and that he was having trouble sleeping. 194 00:10:47,210 --> 00:10:48,430 And what did you do? 195 00:10:48,930 --> 00:10:53,170 I notified the police. I... I called the police. 196 00:10:55,130 --> 00:10:58,950 Actually, you waited two days to call the police, didn't you, ma 'am? 197 00:10:59,430 --> 00:11:01,890 Yes. Your son tells you he's raped. 198 00:11:02,270 --> 00:11:03,890 You don't call for two days? 199 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:07,830 At first, I just... I couldn't believe it. I thought maybe he was trying to 200 00:11:07,830 --> 00:11:12,370 escape punishment or... You thought he was making it up. 201 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,380 I was just so stunned at first. I couldn't believe it. 202 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,480 I guess I was desperate not to believe it. 203 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,360 But once it sank in that it was true, I called the police. 204 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,340 You mentioned your son wanting to escape punishment. 205 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,440 You mean being grounded, missing baseball, that sort of thing? 206 00:11:29,780 --> 00:11:31,660 Yes. How about you hitting him? 207 00:11:32,220 --> 00:11:33,980 You ever hit your son, Mrs. Langer? 208 00:11:34,340 --> 00:11:38,040 Objection. Where is this going? Your Honor, sometimes kids will say anything 209 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,780 make the beating stop. I did not beat him. Short leash. 210 00:11:42,330 --> 00:11:46,990 Speed it up. Did you ever hit your son, Mrs. Langer? I spanked him sometimes. 211 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:51,190 I did not beat him. Did you spank him on account of his grades going down? I 212 00:11:51,190 --> 00:11:52,450 spanked him once or twice. 213 00:11:52,770 --> 00:11:55,270 There were not beatings, and I certainly never hurt him. 214 00:11:55,490 --> 00:11:57,550 Did you ever hit your son for using drugs? 215 00:11:57,830 --> 00:12:02,590 He once used marijuana that your client gave him, and yes, I spanked him. 216 00:12:02,910 --> 00:12:04,170 Do you work, Mrs. Langer? 217 00:12:05,150 --> 00:12:06,990 Yes. What do you do for work? 218 00:12:07,250 --> 00:12:08,650 I'm a waitress in a restaurant. 219 00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:10,250 Could you tell me your hours? 220 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:11,550 Three to eleven. 221 00:12:11,660 --> 00:12:13,320 Three in the afternoon till 11 at night? 222 00:12:13,580 --> 00:12:14,880 Yes. Weekdays? 223 00:12:15,180 --> 00:12:17,520 Yes. When did your son get home from school? 224 00:12:17,860 --> 00:12:18,860 Between two and three. 225 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,500 Wow, so you barely see him during the week. 226 00:12:22,780 --> 00:12:26,140 Possible he could have made this story up to get your attention? 227 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,240 No. That is not possible. 228 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:32,580 Ever know your son to tell you things that maybe weren't true? 229 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,500 No. Your son always speaks the truth. 230 00:12:35,740 --> 00:12:38,460 Yes. He is a truthful person. Yes, he is. 231 00:12:38,700 --> 00:12:41,180 And yet, when he tells you he was raped... 232 00:12:41,770 --> 00:12:44,050 You don't call the police for two days. 233 00:12:58,210 --> 00:12:59,210 Good job. 234 00:13:13,450 --> 00:13:14,450 What are we doing here? 235 00:13:25,770 --> 00:13:29,590 It's basically a traditional African religion with elements of Roman 236 00:13:29,590 --> 00:13:34,490 Catholicism. But the reason we're all here is because of one particular 237 00:13:34,790 --> 00:13:39,310 Yes. Can you tell the jury why sacrifice animals? 238 00:13:39,690 --> 00:13:41,590 It's a way of honoring the Orisha. 239 00:13:42,170 --> 00:13:44,830 which literally means head guardian. 240 00:13:45,210 --> 00:13:51,310 In simplest terms, the animal's blood is offered. The sacrifice is said to 241 00:13:51,310 --> 00:13:55,050 please the saints and bring purification and forgiveness of sins. 242 00:13:55,390 --> 00:14:00,490 You have to acknowledge, Mr. Jolie, that does seem a little barbaric. We know 243 00:14:00,490 --> 00:14:04,170 that American culture rejects it, and we therefore try to be as discreet as 244 00:14:04,170 --> 00:14:08,290 possible, even secretive. We've never tried to impose our rituals or beliefs 245 00:14:08,290 --> 00:14:09,290 upon the public. 246 00:14:09,570 --> 00:14:10,570 And in fact... 247 00:14:10,940 --> 00:14:14,740 The only reason we're here today is because the media invaded us. 248 00:14:15,140 --> 00:14:16,460 Does the animal suffer? 249 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:21,480 The sacrifice is almost always quick and as humane as possible. 250 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,140 So it's your testimony that what we all saw on the television screen, in your 251 00:14:26,140 --> 00:14:30,840 eyes, there was no animal cruelty. We try to be as humane as possible. 252 00:14:31,060 --> 00:14:36,200 And you do that with lambs, goat, turtles, guinea pigs, sheep? 253 00:14:36,849 --> 00:14:40,270 All those animals, you slit their throats and offer the blood to your 254 00:14:40,990 --> 00:14:41,990 Yes. 255 00:14:43,950 --> 00:14:45,530 He did well, considering. 256 00:14:46,910 --> 00:14:51,930 But? But he couldn't undo that videotape, Eugene. How could he? That 257 00:14:52,110 --> 00:14:55,610 that's what the jury's going to take back to that room, that squealing goat. 258 00:14:56,050 --> 00:14:59,930 Well, Eleanor, if it's a tale of the tape, then get yourself some tape. 259 00:15:00,430 --> 00:15:01,409 What do you mean? 260 00:15:01,410 --> 00:15:02,930 I mean this is America. 261 00:15:03,510 --> 00:15:06,130 You think Santorians are the only ones to kill animals? 262 00:15:21,810 --> 00:15:23,210 Sit. 263 00:15:40,460 --> 00:15:43,060 You think I want that piece of crap walking? 264 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,720 Tell me the ideology of the criminal lawyer, if you remember. 265 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,740 To check the state's power to incarcerate people at will. You get a 266 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:55,500 Now look at me. 267 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,760 Look at what's going on out there. 268 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,940 The state regularly jails people without due process, then calls them material 269 00:16:02,940 --> 00:16:07,600 witnesses, and locks them up without even filing charges, much less giving 270 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:08,219 a hearing. 271 00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:11,600 You're talking about terrorist suspects. Who says it has to stop there? 272 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:15,640 You don't think there are people out there who want to extend that policy to 273 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,000 suspected child molesters? 274 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,460 I understand the system, Judge, and I appreciate my role in it. 275 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:22,980 Then why are you here? 276 00:16:23,260 --> 00:16:28,680 I have to get up tomorrow and attack a 13 -year -old rape victim. 277 00:16:31,420 --> 00:16:32,860 And I don't want to do it. 278 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,540 Well, you will. 279 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,240 And if I tank it? 280 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:37,760 Please. 281 00:16:38,010 --> 00:16:40,050 You don't think I just pulled your name out of a hat? 282 00:16:48,610 --> 00:16:49,610 You okay? 283 00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:51,410 Yeah. 284 00:16:52,590 --> 00:16:58,470 It's just... This isn't exactly what I went to law school for, Eugene. 285 00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:01,410 Fighting for serial goat killers. 286 00:17:02,010 --> 00:17:03,010 Are you serious? 287 00:17:04,650 --> 00:17:05,650 I don't know. 288 00:17:06,569 --> 00:17:07,990 Why did you go to law school? 289 00:17:10,010 --> 00:17:11,010 Clarence Darrow. 290 00:17:11,869 --> 00:17:16,990 I read his clothing on Leopold and Loeb over and over and over. 291 00:17:17,390 --> 00:17:20,050 For me, it was the Constitution. 292 00:17:20,810 --> 00:17:27,030 I was 12, and I couldn't understand half of it, but I knew this was something. 293 00:17:27,650 --> 00:17:30,310 And you know the part that especially got me? 294 00:17:31,290 --> 00:17:32,290 Freedom of religion. 295 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,720 I know that probably sounds funny, considering how I've been acting towards 296 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:42,600 religion lately, but that amendment, it said to me that at least in principle, 297 00:17:42,740 --> 00:17:44,980 this country stands for tolerance. 298 00:17:45,820 --> 00:17:49,820 And Eleanor, of all the constitutional liberties that need protecting today, 299 00:17:49,980 --> 00:17:53,340 freedom of religion. 300 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:58,160 I understand that. I really do, but... But what? 301 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,800 I like goats. 302 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,600 Trust me, Eleanor. 303 00:18:04,540 --> 00:18:09,340 This case is exactly why you went to law school. 304 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:21,600 As a member of the American Humane Society, you've had occasion to 305 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,800 document the footage we're about to see. All the footage is accurate and has 306 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,800 been verified. 307 00:18:27,620 --> 00:18:29,100 Can you narrate, Miss Elder? 308 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,320 That is a cow being killed at a slaughterhouse in Texas. 309 00:18:36,020 --> 00:18:37,020 A pig. 310 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,320 Chicken. 311 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,940 Examples of trapping. 312 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:45,960 Laboratory testing. 313 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,580 Baby seals. This is Canada, not the U .S. 314 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,480 The question becomes, Miss Elder, 315 00:19:00,490 --> 00:19:01,910 Are these isolated events? 316 00:19:02,830 --> 00:19:04,030 Isolated? Certainly not. 317 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:05,670 It goes on every day. 318 00:19:06,890 --> 00:19:11,210 Miss Elder, I'm curious. Did you get a chance to see the tape showing what goes 319 00:19:11,210 --> 00:19:12,330 on in the defendant's church? 320 00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:18,070 I did. In your opinion, did you find the defendant's actions to constitute 321 00:19:18,070 --> 00:19:19,070 animal cruelty? 322 00:19:19,290 --> 00:19:21,950 Objection. She can give a lay opinion, not legal. 323 00:19:22,190 --> 00:19:25,050 He slid a goat's neck and let the blood drain out. 324 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:26,750 It was repulsive. 325 00:19:30,410 --> 00:19:34,990 Justin, if you want to stop or you feel you need to take a break, you tell me. 326 00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:38,610 Okay. You said the two of you started to become friends. 327 00:19:39,090 --> 00:19:44,790 Yes. After I'd finished my work, we'd play cards and games. 328 00:19:46,090 --> 00:19:49,310 And then we started to watch videos and stuff. 329 00:19:49,670 --> 00:19:50,950 What kinds of videos? 330 00:19:51,430 --> 00:19:57,090 Well, at first, just comedies and stuff, like The Nutty Professor and Austin 331 00:19:57,090 --> 00:19:58,090 Powers. 332 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,020 And after a while, sex videos. 333 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,940 And these videos, men and women were having sex? 334 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:08,980 Some men and women. 335 00:20:10,380 --> 00:20:13,280 But mostly just men and men. 336 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,340 Or men and boys. 337 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,260 What did you think when you saw this? 338 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:21,080 I don't know. 339 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,820 I guess it kind of grossed me out. 340 00:20:26,780 --> 00:20:28,240 But, you know... 341 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,900 Mitchell, he said it was very common for men to have sex with each other. 342 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:34,820 What did you think of that? 343 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,040 I don't know. 344 00:20:37,820 --> 00:20:44,800 Jackson, at some point, did you and Mitchell Orbis have sex? 345 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,240 Yes. Could you tell us about it? 346 00:21:02,170 --> 00:21:08,870 Justin, look, I know this is very difficult for you, but you're completely 347 00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:10,390 safe here, I promise. 348 00:21:11,470 --> 00:21:13,490 We need for you to tell us what happened. 349 00:21:17,650 --> 00:21:22,310 He, um, he would touch my private. 350 00:21:23,330 --> 00:21:24,330 By touch? 351 00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:25,950 How would he touch you? 352 00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:29,030 With his hand, with his mouth. 353 00:21:29,530 --> 00:21:30,550 His mouth? 354 00:21:31,490 --> 00:21:37,470 Yeah. He would put his mouth on my privates. By privates, you mean... 355 00:21:37,470 --> 00:21:39,270 My penis. 356 00:21:39,690 --> 00:21:44,030 And he would ask me to put my mouth on his penis. 357 00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:45,870 Did you? 358 00:21:47,970 --> 00:21:48,970 Yes. 359 00:21:49,550 --> 00:21:52,170 Justin, I promise you, I'm almost done. 360 00:21:53,390 --> 00:21:55,750 How many times did this happen? 361 00:21:57,409 --> 00:21:58,409 A lot. 362 00:21:59,530 --> 00:22:00,530 A lot. 363 00:22:01,310 --> 00:22:02,670 More than ten times? 364 00:22:04,370 --> 00:22:05,370 Yes. 365 00:22:05,850 --> 00:22:06,850 More than twenty? 366 00:22:16,430 --> 00:22:18,510 Your Honor, I think we should take a small break. 367 00:22:35,850 --> 00:22:36,850 He never cried. 368 00:22:38,890 --> 00:22:40,110 He liked it. 369 00:22:41,910 --> 00:22:47,070 I think that his mother told him to cry. 370 00:22:49,630 --> 00:22:50,750 I promise. 371 00:22:51,290 --> 00:22:53,150 He never cried. 372 00:22:57,710 --> 00:22:59,650 This isn't a case about religion. 373 00:23:00,250 --> 00:23:02,970 It is about cruelty to animals. 374 00:23:03,810 --> 00:23:05,090 You saw the tape. 375 00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:11,940 This man dangled a baby goat as people danced behind him, and he slit its 376 00:23:11,940 --> 00:23:18,740 throat. He does it with pigs, sheep, turtles, chickens, doves, pulls 377 00:23:18,740 --> 00:23:20,660 out his knife or box cutters. 378 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,680 Objection! There has never been a suggestion of box cutters. I only meant 379 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,680 cutting instruments. 380 00:23:25,780 --> 00:23:29,360 We all know what you meant, and I object to the blatant innuendo. All right. 381 00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:30,980 Careful, Mr. Brenner. 382 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,860 We're not here today to pass judgment on the century in faith. 383 00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:42,240 All of us, every one of us, is free to choose our form of worship. Of course we 384 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,840 are. But the exercise, the practice of religion has never been absolute. 385 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:53,280 Whether it's public health or safety or, yes, even morals, the state can step in 386 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,740 and say, whoa, can't do that. 387 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:02,260 Here, they torture and mutilate animals in an open and notorious manner. 388 00:24:02,890 --> 00:24:05,550 We as a society don't tolerate that. 389 00:24:05,790 --> 00:24:07,190 How could we? 390 00:24:08,830 --> 00:24:10,610 We don't tolerate it? 391 00:24:11,030 --> 00:24:13,450 What society is he talking about? 392 00:24:13,710 --> 00:24:18,190 We live in a society that slaughters animals for food. We kill them for fur 393 00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:24,190 coats. We poison them to test new drugs. We torture animals all the time. 394 00:24:24,410 --> 00:24:27,310 We even murder them for sport. 395 00:24:28,010 --> 00:24:33,290 We hunt, we fish, we walk up to deer with our shotguns and we blow off their 396 00:24:33,290 --> 00:24:37,170 heads. We yank fish out of the water and we let them suffocate at the bottom of 397 00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:41,690 our votes. If you want to convict my client for being cruel, fine. 398 00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:48,790 But don't you dare do so under some cloak of humanity that we as a society 399 00:24:48,790 --> 00:24:50,830 don't torture animals. 400 00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:52,730 And I would submit. 401 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,060 That if we say it's okay to hunt them down and to maim them for recreation, 402 00:24:59,060 --> 00:25:05,780 vanity, or even for Thanksgiving, how do we say no 403 00:25:05,780 --> 00:25:07,600 for worship? 404 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,600 A traditional worship that dates back over a thousand years. 405 00:25:13,820 --> 00:25:19,940 Personally, I don't like what they do. But you simply cannot condemn this man 406 00:25:19,940 --> 00:25:21,860 under some theory. 407 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:28,540 That killing animals isn't tolerated by the United States of America because it 408 00:25:28,540 --> 00:25:29,540 is. 409 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:36,200 Every time you eat a hamburger, you not only tolerate it, 410 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,940 you proliferate it. 411 00:25:43,580 --> 00:25:47,720 It's a pretty serious thing to accuse someone of statutory rape, Justin. 412 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,640 How long had this been going on for? 413 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,380 Three months or so. 414 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:55,640 And you never told anybody? 415 00:25:56,220 --> 00:25:57,520 I was too embarrassed. 416 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,060 You started getting in trouble at school, didn't you? I saw detentions for 417 00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,640 fighting, swearing at a teacher. 418 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,840 Do you get suspended for swearing at a teacher? 419 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,280 No. No? 420 00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:09,940 Oh, that's right. The principal thought this behavior was a cry for attention. 421 00:26:10,580 --> 00:26:12,200 Do you remember him saying that? 422 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,580 Yes. Ever accuse another kid at school of doing anything to you? 423 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Russell Lefevre? 424 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,280 Did you once accuse Russell Lefebvre of punching you from behind? 425 00:26:24,060 --> 00:26:26,480 Yes. Did Russell Lefebvre punch you? 426 00:26:27,540 --> 00:26:28,540 No. 427 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,840 You made it up? 428 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,220 I'm not making this up. You made it up against Russell. I can explain that. 429 00:26:34,460 --> 00:26:36,660 You don't have to explain. Just tell us, yes or no. 430 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,720 Did you make up false accusations against Russell Lefebvre? 431 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,300 Yes. Ever get caught cheating on a test, Justin? 432 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,460 Once. That's cheating. 433 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,160 And lying. 434 00:26:50,220 --> 00:26:52,760 Objection. Withdrawn. Do you take drugs, Justin? 435 00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:54,880 All right. This is the accusing witness. 436 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,560 Go ahead. 437 00:26:57,060 --> 00:26:58,580 Ever smoked marijuana, Justin? 438 00:26:59,140 --> 00:27:01,760 Yes. You got caught smoking it at school, didn't you? 439 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,940 Yes. You told the principal that you got it from one of the high school kids. 440 00:27:06,020 --> 00:27:09,100 You told your mother you got it from Mr. Orbis. Who were you lying to, the 441 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:11,040 school principal or your mother, Justin? 442 00:27:11,260 --> 00:27:12,440 I got it from Mitchell. 443 00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:15,020 So you lied yet again to the principal. 444 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,820 Yes, but I didn't want to... 445 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,400 After you were caught with drugs, Justin, you got suspended then, didn't 446 00:27:21,780 --> 00:27:24,000 Yes. And this is when... 447 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:36,020 After 448 00:27:36,020 --> 00:27:42,860 you were suspended for drugs, 449 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,960 how did your mother react? 450 00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:45,220 She was angry. 451 00:27:45,380 --> 00:27:46,380 Angry? 452 00:27:46,670 --> 00:27:47,670 Did she hit you? 453 00:27:47,790 --> 00:27:54,270 She spanked me. And this is when you suddenly declared that Mr. Orbis had 454 00:27:54,270 --> 00:27:55,270 molested you. 455 00:27:55,530 --> 00:27:57,430 Did you say that for sympathy, Justin? 456 00:27:57,790 --> 00:27:59,730 No. It's the truth. 457 00:28:00,030 --> 00:28:04,590 I see. So your mother, two days later, finally decided to believe you, and she 458 00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:05,590 called the police. 459 00:28:05,910 --> 00:28:08,610 And when you talked to the police, you had to give them a lot of different 460 00:28:08,610 --> 00:28:09,650 statements, didn't you? 461 00:28:09,870 --> 00:28:13,990 Yes. The first two times you met with the police, you said nothing about Mr. 462 00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:15,530 Orbis putting his mouth... 463 00:28:15,740 --> 00:28:21,720 On your penis or yours on his. You never said that, did you, Justin? I was too 464 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,480 embarrassed. Too embarrassed? 465 00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:25,640 When did you come up with the idea to add that part? 466 00:28:26,180 --> 00:28:29,200 Objection. Overruled. You made that up, didn't you, Justin? 467 00:28:29,460 --> 00:28:34,040 No. Justin, do you understand that you have an obligation to tell the truth 468 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,920 here? We're not in the principal's office now. We're in court. 469 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,220 Your lies are hurting people. 470 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,960 I am telling the truth. 471 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,860 So this isn't another false accusation? 472 00:28:44,899 --> 00:28:46,540 This time you're sticking with it? 473 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,620 Objection! Withdraw, nothing further. 474 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,860 Commonwealth rests, Your Honor. 475 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,020 Mr. Donnell, you could call your first witness tonight, or we can wait and 476 00:28:59,020 --> 00:29:00,020 tomorrow. 477 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,980 Counsel, did you hear me? 478 00:29:12,660 --> 00:29:14,200 The defense rests, Your Honor. 479 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,680 I can't talk now. Can't talk? 480 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,340 How about just looking me in the eye then, Bobby? Can you do that? 481 00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:44,300 You hypocrite. 482 00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:48,220 You leave the church accusing us of enabling sex offenders. There's a 483 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:49,460 between... There's a difference? 484 00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:50,700 Yes. 485 00:29:50,780 --> 00:29:54,960 Between representing somebody who's committed a crime and protecting his 486 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,020 so he can go on committing it, there's a big difference. That's crap. 487 00:29:58,820 --> 00:30:02,100 I gotta leave. Then you're gonna have to knock me over because I'm not moving, 488 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,080 you son of a bitch, until you listen to what I have to say. 489 00:30:05,630 --> 00:30:07,450 You're helping him secure his freedom. 490 00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:13,010 How is that not enabling more rapes? I was ordered by the court. Then quit your 491 00:30:13,010 --> 00:30:14,010 profession. 492 00:30:14,430 --> 00:30:18,070 You're a man that's quite capable of walking out of a door, Bobby. We both 493 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:22,410 that. Walk out on the legal profession like you walked out on the church. 494 00:30:22,690 --> 00:30:27,610 How dare you judge me or the Catholic people? Too bad you can't save some of 495 00:30:27,610 --> 00:30:28,910 your rage for your fellow priests. 496 00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:31,970 I have plenty of rage for them, believe me. 497 00:30:33,290 --> 00:30:38,570 And I'm standing here right now condemning you, mostly for your 498 00:30:39,050 --> 00:30:40,410 Step away from the door, Father. 499 00:30:40,770 --> 00:30:41,770 I'm going. 500 00:30:43,730 --> 00:30:45,930 Allow me, Bobby, to walk out on you. 501 00:30:57,550 --> 00:30:59,870 I bet Helen chased him down and set him in motion. 502 00:31:00,070 --> 00:31:03,240 Helen? to distract me. How the hell would he even know what case I'm doing? 503 00:31:03,380 --> 00:31:04,380 Bobby, it's been in the papers. 504 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,640 We'll be just like her. 505 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,560 Okay, you need to take a breath. Lindsay, this is no time. 506 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,240 Helen Gamble did not go running to a church to rattle you, and if you think 507 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,840 that, you're rattled already. 508 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,380 Maybe you should let Jimmy close. 509 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,400 I can close. 510 00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:21,100 Bobby. I can close, damn it! 511 00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:33,600 make up their minds so fast. 512 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,200 They're decisive. 513 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,840 Hang in there. 514 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,860 I prayed all night. 515 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,900 Used up six cats. 516 00:31:43,820 --> 00:31:45,160 That was a joke. 517 00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:48,900 Madam foreperson, the jury has reached the verdict. 518 00:31:49,380 --> 00:31:50,380 We have, Your Honor. 519 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,040 Will the defendant please rise? 520 00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:55,780 What say you? 521 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,580 The Commonwealth versus Stanley Jolie on the charge of cruelty to animals. 522 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,020 We find the defendant, Stanley Jolie, not guilty. 523 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,640 The jury is dismissed with the thanks of the court. 524 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,280 We're adjourned. 525 00:32:14,340 --> 00:32:15,340 Congratulations. 526 00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:16,700 Thank you. 527 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,860 Eleanor, I know this ritual you found to be personally repugnant, which makes 528 00:32:22,860 --> 00:32:26,300 your defense of it and my rights all the more heroic. 529 00:32:27,140 --> 00:32:28,140 Thank you. 530 00:32:30,570 --> 00:32:32,270 Heroes are not easily found. 531 00:32:32,530 --> 00:32:38,790 It takes an enormous amount of courage for a victim of child molestation to 532 00:32:38,790 --> 00:32:39,790 forward. 533 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:41,810 Most don't. 534 00:32:42,510 --> 00:32:47,030 Most think it's somehow their own fault and the shame is too much to bear. 535 00:32:47,770 --> 00:32:54,510 And for those who can overcome the embarrassment, there's the prospect of 536 00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:58,890 having to sit in a courtroom day after day with the man who raped you. 537 00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:04,700 We live in a country where the suspect has a constitutional right to confront 538 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:05,700 his accuser. 539 00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:10,120 And somewhere along the way, confront became attack. 540 00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:12,340 You saw it here. 541 00:33:13,340 --> 00:33:18,100 With Justin Langer being assaulted in that chair by defense counsel. 542 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,740 One almost had to wonder, was it worth it? 543 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:30,800 Well... When the alternative is a rapist going on to possibly rape other 544 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,940 children, yeah, it's worth it. 545 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,160 That's why I consider this young man to be a hero. 546 00:33:37,460 --> 00:33:41,820 He came into this room to face down the man who raped him. 547 00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:47,360 And his testimony is uncontroverted. 548 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,340 He told you how the defendant... 549 00:33:52,890 --> 00:33:57,870 would repeatedly engage him in acts of oral copulation. How this man with a 550 00:33:57,870 --> 00:34:04,450 library of pornographic videos would use those videos to seduce this child. 551 00:34:05,270 --> 00:34:07,090 He's 13 years old. 552 00:34:08,630 --> 00:34:09,630 13. 553 00:34:10,730 --> 00:34:12,170 And he was raped. 554 00:34:14,590 --> 00:34:17,350 Pedophiles repeat their crimes. 555 00:34:19,489 --> 00:34:20,489 Please. 556 00:34:21,870 --> 00:34:24,730 Don't give this one the opportunity to do so. 557 00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:52,420 Miss Gamble talked about our system. 558 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,760 Rights of defendants and victims. 559 00:34:56,139 --> 00:35:00,120 You know that 90 -something percent of all defendants are guilty? 560 00:35:01,020 --> 00:35:02,020 Think about it. 561 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:06,560 By the time they get to trial, they've been judged guilty many times. 562 00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:11,440 You got the accuser and the arresting officers, the detectives, then a grand 563 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:17,200 jury, then probable cause. We got all these mini steps along the way, each of 564 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,660 them concluding the same thing. 565 00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:23,060 The guy did it. 566 00:35:24,260 --> 00:35:30,600 And since the facts, you see, DAs, they just want to give a good, 567 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,660 accurate presentation of the facts. 568 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:44,140 But defense lawyers, our job is to skew them. 569 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,600 We stand up to distort, bend, hide the truth if necessary. 570 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,280 And if you got a guilty guy, which we usually do, what? 571 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,640 We're going to hope the jury gets the right idea? 572 00:35:56,180 --> 00:35:58,440 My craft, smoke and mirrors. 573 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,560 Defeat. 574 00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:03,920 Criminal defense attorneys aren't about searching for the truth. Are you 575 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,000 kidding? Mr. Donald. 576 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:06,240 That's our system. 577 00:36:06,580 --> 00:36:11,600 The DA has to prove guilt beyond all reasonable doubt, and defense lawyers 578 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,960 doubt. Whenever, wherever, with all the discipline that that perverted bastard 579 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,840 probably spews semen on his walls. I'd like to finish my closing argument. 580 00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:24,860 This man, I think he's guilty. 581 00:36:25,340 --> 00:36:28,660 I'm sure as hell not supposed to say that, but I think he did it. 582 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:36,920 The problem is... I can't be sure. 583 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,080 Neither can you. 584 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,060 Because all we have is one witness. 585 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,500 Sympathetic, definitely. 586 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,900 Compelling, no doubt. 587 00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:52,480 But credible? 588 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,300 His own mother waited two days to call the police because even she didn't 589 00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:58,300 believe him at first. 590 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:04,040 He has a history of leveling false accusations, a history of lying and 591 00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:08,840 a track record of crying out for attention, a history of drug use. 592 00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:12,520 The story itself changed with different statements to the police. 593 00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:19,660 On the possibility that Mitchell Orbis really did commit these crimes, 594 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,840 I hope he goes away. 595 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,440 But in this country, we don't take away a man's freedom on the possibility of 596 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,240 guilt or likelihood, even an overwhelmingly strong likelihood. 597 00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:40,160 You have to find guilt beyond all reasonable doubt. 598 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,040 And I'm sorry. 599 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,440 You can't get there with one lone witness, especially one whose word lacks 600 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:53,140 credibility. My client may be scum, but there is no real case against him in 601 00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:54,180 this courtroom today. 602 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:59,560 Which means the heroes here have to be you. 603 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,400 You have to go back to that room. 604 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,300 Uphold your oath to our system. 605 00:38:05,950 --> 00:38:12,910 Because if you don't... God forbid the day 606 00:38:12,910 --> 00:38:17,430 comes when the only thing standing between our freedom and a prison cell is 607 00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:19,470 accusing finger from a child who lies. 608 00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:25,210 Because that's all we have here today, ladies and gentlemen. 609 00:38:29,290 --> 00:38:34,450 One accusing finger from a child who's been known... 610 00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:36,820 To lie. 611 00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,620 Could I have a second in private, please? 612 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:24,380 Bobby, the reason I felt so violated by your decision to leave the church... 613 00:39:24,380 --> 00:39:29,840 You see, the church, to me, isn't an institution. 614 00:39:30,580 --> 00:39:32,620 It's not a cardinal or the pope. 615 00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:36,620 It's first and foremost my parish. 616 00:39:38,060 --> 00:39:39,060 The people. 617 00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:47,020 So, by your leaving, it was in some way... I understand that you 618 00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:50,700 look to me for spiritual and moral leadership. 619 00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:54,080 And obviously, I fail to provide it. 620 00:39:55,300 --> 00:40:00,880 But if I could retract yesterday's condemnation and substitute it with some 621 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,140 guidance, no. 622 00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:07,240 A criminal justice system. 623 00:40:08,380 --> 00:40:11,560 Obviously, we need defense lawyers to do what they do. 624 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,600 But, Bobby, from a spiritual and moral standpoint, 625 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:23,780 is this any way for a man to live his life? 626 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,800 I'm sorry. 627 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,740 You're not going to believe this. 628 00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:32,500 Jury's coming back. 629 00:41:02,730 --> 00:41:07,130 Mr. Foreman, has the jury reached a unanimous verdict? 630 00:41:07,530 --> 00:41:08,530 We have, Your Honor. 631 00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:10,670 Will the defendant please rise? 632 00:41:13,010 --> 00:41:15,210 Mr. Foreman, what say you? 633 00:41:16,170 --> 00:41:18,150 In the matter of the Commonwealth v. 634 00:41:18,370 --> 00:41:24,950 Mitchell Orbis, on the count of statutory rape, sex with a minor, we the 635 00:41:25,050 --> 00:41:31,820 finding a strong likelihood of guilt, regrettably, Return a 636 00:41:31,820 --> 00:41:33,080 finding of not guilty. 637 00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:37,700 Members of the jury, this concludes your service. 638 00:41:38,220 --> 00:41:43,980 I caution you. You will be subjected to inquiries from the press seeking to 639 00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:45,080 explore your decision. 640 00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:49,700 None of you are required to discuss this with the media. 641 00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:51,960 We are adjourned. 642 00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:55,660 The defendant is free to go. 643 00:41:57,860 --> 00:42:00,140 Thank you so much. 644 00:42:01,029 --> 00:42:02,029 Thank you. 645 00:42:04,770 --> 00:42:05,770 Thank you. 51890

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