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Why wouldn't you tell us what it's
about?
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I have no idea.
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Have we broken any rules lately?
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Well, not that I'm aware of. I've never
even appeared before this judge. Neither
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have I.
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Sorry to keep you waiting, gentlemen.
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Thank you for coming.
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I'll skip the pleasantries and get right
to it.
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Lawrence O'Malley.
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You've heard of him.
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We read the papers.
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Excellent. Then you're halfway up to
speed.
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You obviously know he thinks he's
Hannibal Lecter.
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Tomorrow's papers will be covering his
need for new counsel, which is where you
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come in.
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You're it.
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I beg your pardon?
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His lawyer fell out.
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There will be no continuance for Mr.
O'Malley. The trial will start the day
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after tomorrow, which means I need
seasoned criminal defense attorneys who
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jump in. Hold on a second. The files are
being delivered to your office as we
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speak. You can't just assign us... What
you need to know about the judge, Mr.
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Donnell, is that she doesn't like to be
interrupted.
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The trial starts on Tuesday. You will be
his lawyer.
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In fact, I'm assigning your entire firm
to it to ensure the bastard doesn't have
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any inadequate counsel appeal. What
about our other cases? I'll write you a
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note.
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Sorry to do this, boys, but your
reputation speaks for itself.
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What happened to his other lawyer?
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Your client bit off his nose.
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The whole firm? Who is this judge?
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Look, let's not waste time talking about
the judge. It is what it is. We have to
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get ready for the trial.
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Starting Tuesday.
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Helen Gamble is the DA, so we at least
don't need scouting reports on the
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prosecution. Eugene and I will meet with
the client tonight. Eleanor, I need you
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and Beck to meet with the psychiatrist
first thing in the morning.
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So we're going insanity?
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Yes. Lindsay, I'd like you and Jiminy to
meet with his former lawyer.
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He's at Mass General in good condition.
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The guy really thinks he's Hannibal
Lecter. That seems to be the question.
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The prosecution thinks he's faking.
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Eugene, we should go.
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He's shackled, straight jacket, muzzle.
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I think he'll be okay.
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Has he been fed?
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Is that a joke?
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We don't find your guy too funny,
counsel.
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You want a guard in there or not, up to
you.
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That'll be okay.
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I'm Bobby Donald. This is Eugene Young,
appointed by the court to represent you.
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The judge refused to continue the case.
She evidently didn't want to reward you
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for biting off body parts.
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That means we go day after tomorrow,
which means we have a lot to do.
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We're going to need your full
cooperation.
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What's your name?
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Did you miss the part about full
cooperation?
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What's your name?
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My name is listed in the indictment.
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I assume the question is designed to
elicit what I think my name is to give
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some sense of whether I'm sane.
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I suggest you take it up with the
doctors.
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Right. Look, let's not waste time with
you trying to prove you're smarter than
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me. You're in prison. I'm not.
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You're sitting there shackled, wearing a
muzzle.
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I'm not.
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You're the one who could be spending the
rest of his life in prison.
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Do you know your name?
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Lean in closer.
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Just tell me.
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My name is Hannibal Lecter.
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You plan to argue insanity?
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You murdered and ate three people, Mr.
Lecter.
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Insanity seems to be our best bet. I
didn't kill them.
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The other man killed them.
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What other man?
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What other man?
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The doctors think basically he created
this man in his head for the murders
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themselves. He has never denied
consuming the victims. But it's always
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persona who stabbed the girls.
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What's the diagnosis?
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It's all over the map.
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One of my doctors says paranoid
schizophrenia.
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Another says psychotic disorder.
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Prosecution experts say he's faking it.
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That he stabbed the girls and he ate
them to give himself an insanity defense
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should he ever get caught.
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It would convince me.
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What do you think?
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Look, to do what he's done, obviously
there's some severe mental deficit
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here.
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Is he criminally insane? Did he not
understand that what he was doing was
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I don't know.
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All I am sure of, as crazy as he may be,
he is not stupid.
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Don't ever think you're in charge of
him, Mr. Dole.
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Promise you.
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He'll be in control of you.
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One of the psychiatrists had him take a
polygraph.
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He passed.
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Said he was Hannibal Lecter, said
another guy killed the girls.
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He passed the lie detector with flying
colors. He could also describe the
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killing. It was basically like he
stepped outside of himself and was
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somebody else do it, and then he would
step back into himself to eat them.
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And the police think he's faking
because...
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He has a nine -to -five job. He punches
in every day as Lawrence O'Malley, pays
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his bills on time.
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Are they offering anything?
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Life in prison.
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Client turned it down. I guess he's not
that crazy.
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So what?
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Are we all going to try this? Lindsay,
I'd like you to open. Women victims,
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let's put a woman on the face of our
defense.
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Jimmy, you take the lawyer.
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We're going to call him? Probably first.
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Eleanor Beck, you got the doctors.
Eugene and I will take the prosecution
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witnesses. Bobby, Mr.
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and Mrs. O'Malley are here. Who?
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Hannibal's parents.
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He would make up fictitious characters
and assume their identities. I think it
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made him feel stronger.
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He started pretending he was Hannibal
Lecter about ten years ago, shortly
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the movie came out, probably so that he
could feel dangerous.
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And at some point, he really thought he
was.
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Mr. Donald, Lawrence would never do
these things.
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We want you to hear that from his
parents.
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This is some sort of insanity, but
Lawrence, he is not a killer.
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He took his knife and he gutted her like
he was
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cleaning a fish.
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Who did?
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The other man.
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She didn't die right away.
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Okay, look.
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We have to make a decision here on the
restraints.
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He's going to look like a monster if
he's shackled and muzzled. I'm not
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next to him. He attacked his last
lawyer, Bobby. We could petition the
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keep him out of the room. I say let him
look like a monster. Our strategy here
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isn't to make him feel relatable.
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Juries don't acquit monsters, Rebecca.
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First thing they teach us in law school,
monsters lose.
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Anybody who would take the lives of
three young women then cannibalize them
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to have a little insanity going on.
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But did Mr. O'Malley understand the
nature and quality of his act?
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Did he know what he was doing was wrong?
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Of course he did.
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Ladies and gentlemen, the evidence will
show he tried to conceal his crimes. He
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tried to avoid getting caught.
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Why?
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Because he knew it was wrong.
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This man acted knowingly, reflectively,
and methodically.
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He'd go to the same bar, select a
victim, hit on her.
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Then when rebuffed, follow her, abduct
her, stab her
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to death, then eat her.
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None of us can fathom what must be
happening in Lawrence O'Malley's brain.
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To fillet three women with a knife.
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To consume them.
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This is not how sane people behave.
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As this trial goes forward, you're going
to look at this man sitting over there
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and probably wonder to yourselves
whether he's even human.
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You might look at me and the other
lawyers defending him and have questions
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about our humanity.
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How can we defend such a monster?
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Well, our judicial system is about many
things.
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What it's first and foremost about is
protecting society's weakest and most
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vulnerable members.
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Lawrence O'Malley is severely, severely
mentally ill.
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The evidence we present to you will
establish this convincingly.
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You'll want to ignore it, because you're
human.
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Your sympathy for the victim, your
hatred for our client, will make you
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ignore or deny what the doctors tell
you.
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But as jurors, you have an obligation to
weigh the evidence.
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That's your duty.
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That's why you're here.
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And the evidence will tell you Lawrence
O'Malley is insane.
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We'd had so many complaints about how
bad the house smelled, we finally sent
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officer out there.
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He took one step inside and recognized
the odor to be decomposing remains.
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We obtained a search warrant, went to
the premises, and quickly found three
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bodies in the basement in different
stages of decomposition.
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Was anybody else there, detective?
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The defendant.
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He kept saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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That's pretty much all I said at the
house.
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I'm sorry.
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Now, you said the bodies were in
different stages.
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One was basically skeletal. The other
two were carcasses.
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It was extremely gruesome.
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Detective, did you find anything else?
There was a freezer which contained
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frozen meat, human meat.
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Now, you later interrogated Mr. O'Malley
at the police station, did you not?
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Yes. where he described each of the
killings in detail.
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According to the coroner, the
descriptions were accurate.
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Thank you, detective.
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You asked my client his name?
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Yes. What did he tell you?
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He said his name was Hannibal Lecter.
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Did he say he killed the women?
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No. He claims he witnessed the other man
do it.
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He just called him the other man.
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The same other man for all three
murders?
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Yes.
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Did he describe the other man? Yes.
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The description he gave pretty much
matched himself.
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He would be at the bar three nights a
week, easy.
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Do you specifically remember the
defendant?
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Oh, yes. He was too weird not to
remember.
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I served him many nights, and I never
heard him speak.
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Did you ever see him speak?
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To women, I did.
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He was always trying to talk up women. I
never saw him have success.
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Did you ever see Mr.
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O'Malley talk to any of these women?
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I know I saw him talking to the first
girl, and I remember the look on her
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It was like, get this kook away from me.
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You used the word strange, weird, kook.
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Based on your observations of my client,
Mr. Williams, he seemed nuts.
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Objection. Lay opinion.
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I'll allow it. You may answer.
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He seemed very nuts.
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And he would come in three nights a
week, on average?
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Yes. He would try to talk to women
sometimes.
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Other nights, he'd just sit at the bar,
sometimes motionless.
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Like he was in this trance, just staring
straight ahead.
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The guy wasn't right.
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We don't need that.
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Scaring the jury doesn't help us here,
Lawrence.
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Just sit there and be a passive monster.
Can you do that, please?
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All right, look, the facts are pretty
much in.
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The rest of the trial goes to the
insanity issue.
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The big decision for us is whether or
not to let you testify.
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We'd like to put you up there, but we
can't if we think you'll strike terror
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people.
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Forbes is here.
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Jimmy's prepping him.
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Okay.
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We'll leave with him and then go to the
doctors.
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I'd like to talk to her, please.
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Who?
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Her. My attorney.
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The one who delivered the eloquent
opening about me being one of society's
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vulnerable members.
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Please.
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Sit.
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Hello, Clarissa. Oh, brother.
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Could you leave, Bobby?
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I'd like to speak with Clarissa alone.
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I'm not Clarissa, Lauren.
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Jodie Foster wasn't even Clarissa.
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She was Clarisse.
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And even she's not Clarisse anymore.
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Do they know?
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Does Bobby know?
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Does he know what?
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That you're in love with me.
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I think he might be faking.
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Hannibal Lecter, isn't that a little too
pat?
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We'll let the prosecution argue that.
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Experts ready? Oh, they're ready and
convincing. They don't think he's faking
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all. Jimmy, Forbes is set.
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What about the muzzle?
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I think it should come off.
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We'll take the muzzle off when he
testifies.
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We need to get back.
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He kept talking about the other man.
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How he watched the other man stab them.
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I would gently remind him, Lawrence,
there was no other man.
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The other man is you.
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He never liked that.
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He'd ask me to please not say he was the
killer.
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Mr. Forbes, why did you remind him?
Well, we were about to start trial.
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I had to prepare him for things he was
going to hear from his own doctors,
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But he just didn't like hearing that,
that he was the killer.
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Friday night, I reminded him again.
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And that was it.
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What happened? He just lunged like a
Rottweiler. He had me by the nose.
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In the course of your representation of
Mr. O'Malley, what can you tell us about
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his mental... Objection. He is trying to
admit medical opinions against... No, a
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lay opinion. Your Honor, I will
stipulate the lay opinion of Mr.
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he's crazy. But this witness has no
foundation to present testimony on the
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of legal insanity as it relates to this
trial.
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I'm going to agree.
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The witness may speak to the defendant's
behavior, but leave the psychiatric
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opinions to the doctors.
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Mr. O'Malley, please take your seat.
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Mr. O'Malley. Your Honor, at this time
I'd ask that the district attorney be
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disqualified.
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Why? She and I have had relations.
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It was one of those moments where time
just seemed to freeze.
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Even Helen Gamble herself seemed
momentarily paralyzed.
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Crap. Well, what do they expect me to
do? Jump up and react? Stupid media.
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Helen, I know we agreed to never talk
shop at home, but you really should put
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something on the table.
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Get with the stunt, Eleanor, and you
know it. Hey, everybody, look how insane
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am. Could be.
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But not many people eat flesh. The
jury's got to think he's nuts.
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Jurors are human.
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At their core, they're vengeful.
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I think you're projecting there. And
when they go back to deliberate about
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he did to those women, compassion won't
be winning out.
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Tomorrow, the case turns to the doctors,
where both sides have their experts
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lined up.
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The base illness is paranoid
schizophrenia.
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The fixed false belief is that he's
Hannibal Lecter. And doctor, does
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schizophrenia make a person homicidal?
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Well, there are no norms. It doesn't
necessarily make a person dangerous.
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It seems with Mr. O'Malley that when he
kills, he experiences a psychotic break
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from his other reality.
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You lost me there. He becomes somebody
else altogether when he kills. The other
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person. Then he goes back to being Mr.
Lecter.
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Basically, he suffers from paranoid
schizophrenia always, and he suffers
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periodic psychosis on top of that.
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Or he's faking. I don't believe he could
feign these kinds of symptoms, Miss
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Gamble. Well, Doctor, have you ever
known a person to feign schizophrenia or
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psychosis? Successfully?
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It would be extremely rare.
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But it can be done.
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And in my medical opinion, Mr. O'Malley
is doing it here.
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Why do you think so?
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Well, for starters, he's completely
functional as Lawrence O'Malley. He goes
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work, performs competently there.
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None of his co -workers have ever seen a
sign of Hannibal Lecter. Well, could he
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just be covering it up?
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Sure, but why?
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If he has no compunction about being
Hannibal Lecter with the police, why
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he cover it up with others?
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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How many times do I have to say it? The
guy was looking right at me.
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Look, it didn't hurt us. It's not like
we're pretending he's nice.
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No, but it doesn't help if it seems even
we're afraid of him. Oh, come on. He's
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tied up like a rabid dog. Everyone in
that room is afraid of him. The problem
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is, if they think of him as a dog, crazy
or not, they're going to want to put
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him to sleep. He has to be a little
sympathetic.
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Does he understand that? I've told him
over and over.
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I think Lindsay should take his direct.
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Me? You take him. Look, in a way, you
represent the victims.
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Exactly. He also seems to be softer with
you than he is with Bobby or me.
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Have Jimmy take him. He's good at
bringing out soft guys.
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Look, any one of us could do it.
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You'll be the most effective.
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His best chance to be sympathetic is
you.
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Hey.
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Yeah.
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I can take the direct.
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He really scared you, didn't he?
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The way he looked at me.
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I'll tell you this, Bobby.
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He's not faking.
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I looked into those eyes.
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They were the eyes of insanity.
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I may not be a doctor, but I saw it.
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That man is truly crazy.
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Did you not hear my question?
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Did you know these women?
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I'd met them.
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I can't lay claim to knowing them.
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You met them at Hannigan's?
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Yes. They weren't particularly kind to
me. Can you tell the court how you
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happened to see them get killed?
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Well, on each occasion, I followed them.
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And in the parking lot, I saw them get
abducted by the other man.
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Could you describe this other man?
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I never got a very good look at his
face.
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He was about six feet tall, lanky.
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And he abducted these women in the
parking lot?
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Yes, he dragged them into his car.
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I think they liked him.
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But for some reason, they didn't want to
go with him.
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Okay, and what did you do?
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I followed.
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He drove them to an abandoned pier on
the harbor.
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And he would stab them there and drive
off.
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I tried to help each of them, but I was
always too late. They were dead.
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There was nothing to be done.
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So I ate them.
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How did these women end up in your
basement, Mr. O'Malley? I drove them
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from the pier.
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And, sir, can you tell the court why you
would eat these women?
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Because they were so beautiful.
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Like you.
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The book of Genesis tells us that woman
came from man.
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When man consumes the woman, it makes
him one with her.
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And by eating them, I know they will go
to heaven.
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Because I am going to heaven.
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Then they will go with me.
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You'll be going to heaven, Clarice.
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You think my name is Clarice?
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It's all I have.
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What did the other man do with the
knife?
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I don't know.
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Funny how it never turned up, like it
was hidden or disposed of carefully.
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The other man really knew what he was
doing, I guess.
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You sucked my fluids to make me one with
you.
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How come you never told your co -workers
your real name?
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You went to work every day as Lawrence
O'Malley. You did your job as Lawrence
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O'Malley. Collected your paychecks, paid
your income taxes. You did everything
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as Lawrence O'Malley.
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Why didn't you tell people you were
really Hannibal Lecter?
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It makes it difficult to invite somebody
over for dinner.
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That's clever.
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Would you have sexually engaged with me
had you known my true identity?
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When you saw these women murdered by
this other man, why not go to the
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I was afraid of being a suspect since I
was there. You could have prevented
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other women from being killed.
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Surely you have a conscience, or do you?
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By the time I realized he was a serial
killer, bodies were in my basement.
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I didn't know what to do.
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So you just let women continue to be
murdered?
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I am trying to help now.
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Oh, you're helping now?
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00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,300
Yes. I gave the police a partial
description. I told them where he
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Instead of persecuting me, you should be
looking for him, especially since...
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Since what?
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He's planning to kill Clarice.
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I thought your direct went great.
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Good to hear.
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I don't want to win this case.
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I don't want him going to some state
mental facility that he'll be able to
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out of in a week.
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Okay. No!
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I went through this with him. I don't
want to go through it again.
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I don't want to win this case.
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You should go in there.
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Eugene, can I see you for a second?
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This could be nothing.
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What?
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Jeannie Tanner is a friend of mine. She
works at the coroner's office in
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Suffolk.
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00:26:36,460 --> 00:26:37,780
There's an unsolved murder.
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Happened seven weeks ago.
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28 -year -old woman, stabbed to death,
found behind the Marriott.
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Last seen alive at Hannigan's Bar.
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Seven weeks ago?
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Lawrence O'Malley was in custody.
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It's exculpatory evidence, and they held
it. This is not exculpatory. It has
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nothing to do with the case. Woman
stabbed, seen at Hannigan's Bar. Come
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This was a robbery victim. The woman was
stabbed once.
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00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,560
We should have been told about it,
Helen. The state has no obligation to
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the defense of every other homicide. Oh,
please. This one either fits the
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pattern or comes damn close. I don't
agree. Come on, Ms. Gamble. It's close
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enough.
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But, Counsel, explain to me the harm.
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We may have had another defense
available.
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Which is?
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Somebody else is killing these women.
Oh, come on.
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My client has always maintained the
other man killed these girls. We now
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knowledge of the other man. You've got
to be kidding.
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Your Honor, we should at least be
allowed to change our plea and argue the
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elements. In addition... First of all,
this is absurd. Second, you can't just
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change a plea. We got stuck with this
case on Sunday.
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Sunday.
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Now we find out the prosecution knew of
another murder that fits the pattern. At
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the very least, we should be able to
change our plea.
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It means one extra witness on this other
killing. It doesn't inconvenience the
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court. And to deny us this, you just
guarantee my client an appeal.
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Okay.
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I'll let you plead in the alternative. I
don't believe this. Ms. Gamble, you
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should have revealed that other murder.
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Be glad I don't find misconduct.
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00:28:19,409 --> 00:28:20,850
How's she doing? She's okay.
460
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:25,410
She's a little... She's okay.
461
00:28:26,290 --> 00:28:28,030
I am not okay.
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00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:30,190
Lindsay... What's wrong with you?
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I'm not okay.
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Somebody can beat you half to death and
you can go back to being okay the next
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day. You're always okay.
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00:28:38,410 --> 00:28:39,410
Bobby's okay.
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That's how you handle things. You're
okay.
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Please don't embarrass me like that in
front of the office.
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00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,000
Please don't embarrass you?
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I got stabbed two years ago.
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I got stabbed, Bobby. A man stuck a
knife into me three times.
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I almost died.
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And then he stalked me.
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I'm not okay.
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00:29:09,610 --> 00:29:14,550
I have never gone back to being okay, no
matter how much that you insist that I
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have. I'm just, I'm not okay.
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The cause of death
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was stabbing? That's correct. And the
victim, Jill Hanover, was at Hannigan's
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Bar the night she was killed?
480
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Yes. Found in an alley off of Commercial
Street by the harbor.
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Is that right, Detective?
482
00:29:38,730 --> 00:29:42,770
Yes. And Miss Hanover was killed on
March 26th?
483
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Yes. And do you have any leads or
suspects at this time, Detective,
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this murder?
485
00:29:48,630 --> 00:29:49,630
No, we do not.
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Is this killing related to the three
murders which are the subject of this
487
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trial? We don't believe so. Why not?
488
00:29:57,690 --> 00:29:59,990
Well, Miss Hanover was stabbed once in
the neck.
489
00:30:00,350 --> 00:30:03,590
The other girls were stabbed multiple
times in the abdomen and the sternum.
490
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:05,950
A different knife was used for Miss
Hanover.
491
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,560
The body was also dumped in an alley as
opposed to being transported to a
492
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,560
basement and consumed.
493
00:30:11,060 --> 00:30:13,440
Ms. Hanover was African -American and
overweight.
494
00:30:13,860 --> 00:30:17,860
These other three victims were white
with conventionally attractive figures.
495
00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:21,500
determined that she was simply a robbery
victim and that her death was
496
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,140
completely unrelated to the other three.
497
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,360
Can you prove that, Detective?
498
00:30:25,780 --> 00:30:28,800
Obviously, we can't prove anything until
we catch this other suspect.
499
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:30,360
The other suspect?
500
00:30:42,060 --> 00:30:46,820
Okay, just arguing the alternative,
insanity, and the possibility there
501
00:30:46,820 --> 00:30:47,820
is another man.
502
00:30:54,660 --> 00:30:56,740
All right, look, we have two theories.
503
00:30:56,980 --> 00:31:00,480
They're mutually exclusive, but the law
permits us to present alternative
504
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,380
defenses. It's risky, but it's in our
interest to do so here.
505
00:31:04,780 --> 00:31:05,780
Where's Clarice?
506
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:06,900
Never mind.
507
00:31:07,649 --> 00:31:08,649
Is she all right?
508
00:31:09,270 --> 00:31:10,270
I'm right here.
509
00:31:12,990 --> 00:31:14,910
I'm sorry I frightened you.
510
00:31:15,770 --> 00:31:20,690
If anything ever happened to you, you
know I'd make sure you go to heaven.
511
00:31:20,910 --> 00:31:23,010
Hey, shut your mouth.
512
00:31:23,410 --> 00:31:25,370
I don't want you talking to her anymore.
You got that?
513
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:42,780
The fact that they have thrown in this
11th hour theory, maybe somebody else
514
00:31:42,780 --> 00:31:47,740
it. That evidence shows the desperation
of the defense, ladies and gentlemen.
515
00:31:48,460 --> 00:31:50,460
First, he's Hannibal Lecter.
516
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,260
Then zip, throw in a psychotic break.
Then what the hell? Why not? Let's say
517
00:31:56,260 --> 00:31:57,780
was another man after all.
518
00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:05,890
Lawrence O'Malley brutally stabbed three
women who rejected his advances at a
519
00:32:05,890 --> 00:32:07,350
bar. It is that simple.
520
00:32:08,050 --> 00:32:13,170
Maybe he is really crazy enough to eat
human flesh, but we don't let murderers
521
00:32:13,170 --> 00:32:15,450
go because they consume their victims.
522
00:32:16,510 --> 00:32:23,430
This is a competent, highly functional
man who went to work every day, lived
523
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:24,990
a rather normal life.
524
00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:30,480
Never. Flashed Hannibal or insanity to
anybody.
525
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,680
And here, we see him flashing it at
every turn.
526
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,680
Suddenly, he's standing up saying he and
I had sex.
527
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,740
He's calling his attorney Clarice. He
bites off a lawyer's nose.
528
00:32:44,020 --> 00:32:49,040
So many sudden acts of insanity after 40
years without a sign.
529
00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:52,080
It's a little convenient, don't you
think?
530
00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:58,100
He's trying to feign legal insanity to
get away with his murders.
531
00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:03,500
Three doctors who examined him testified
he's faking.
532
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,780
And he's hoping you fall for it.
533
00:33:07,620 --> 00:33:14,060
But just in case you don't, maybe
another man did it after all.
534
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,740
Worth a shot.
535
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,380
He's been laughing at us this entire
trial.
536
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,400
Please.
537
00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:24,870
Don't give him the last laugh.
538
00:33:35,150 --> 00:33:41,590
We put up three doctors who said he
wasn't faking. They believe he's insane.
539
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:46,170
base illness, a paranoid schizophrenia
coupled with psychotic breaks. You heard
540
00:33:46,170 --> 00:33:47,170
the expert's testimony.
541
00:33:47,530 --> 00:33:50,430
And now we learn another woman was
killed.
542
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,840
leaving Hannigan's bar, killed while
Lawrence O'Malley was in custody.
543
00:33:55,180 --> 00:33:59,300
The police think it's unrelated, but can
they prove it? You heard Detective
544
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:00,920
McGuire. They can't.
545
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,400
The state hasn't met its burden here.
546
00:34:04,020 --> 00:34:07,720
And as a matter of law, you must acquit.
547
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,460
Ms. Gamble, rebuttal?
548
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:18,719
Hold on, Your Honor.
549
00:34:20,270 --> 00:34:24,110
We're doing our closing in tandem. Mr.
Donald took the first part.
550
00:34:26,530 --> 00:34:27,530
Very well.
551
00:34:31,110 --> 00:34:34,630
The most outstanding question concerns
the 12 of you.
552
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:37,750
We have a man sitting here, clearly
psychotic.
553
00:34:37,989 --> 00:34:41,449
We know he eats people. He quite
possibly kills them.
554
00:34:41,830 --> 00:34:42,830
Nobody.
555
00:34:43,489 --> 00:34:47,550
Nobody likes the idea of him being
anywhere except...
556
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,699
in a maximum security prison.
557
00:34:50,739 --> 00:34:56,920
But we all have our duties here. They
prosecute, we defend, and you, you
558
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,960
determine whether guilt was proven
beyond all reasonable doubt.
559
00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:07,440
The 12 of you have the nastiest job of
all because to execute your duty, you
560
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:14,320
have to find this man not guilty, which,
of course, you don't want to do, but
561
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,320
you must.
562
00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:20,820
The expert testimony was a wash at best.
They put up doctors to say he's faking.
563
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,740
We put up just as many to say the
schizophrenia was real as was the
564
00:35:25,860 --> 00:35:30,520
On the insanity, there's no escaping
doubt with all the conflicting opinions,
565
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,220
and that's for the other man.
566
00:35:32,820 --> 00:35:39,140
Well, there was another man who stabbed
a girl
567
00:35:39,140 --> 00:35:40,780
leaving Hannigan's Bar.
568
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,640
It happened while Lawrence O'Malley was
in custody. That means it's possible.
569
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:53,940
Possible. Things happened just as Mr.
O'Malley claimed. He followed these
570
00:35:53,940 --> 00:35:54,779
out of the bar.
571
00:35:54,780 --> 00:36:00,940
He saw another man abduct them. He saw
another man stab them, drive off before.
572
00:36:01,820 --> 00:36:05,140
Mr. O'Malley took the bodies back to his
basement.
573
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:07,720
And this isn't some 11th...
574
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:13,360
Our theory was thrown out in
desperation, by the way. The police knew
575
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,340
other murder and they never told us. And
we must ask ourselves, why?
576
00:36:20,140 --> 00:36:21,420
Why didn't they tell us?
577
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:27,840
You've got reasonable doubt on the
insanity. You've got reasonable doubt on
578
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:33,300
killings themselves. Two very big
questions. The third question, the
579
00:36:35,180 --> 00:36:37,200
Are the 12 of you...
580
00:36:37,470 --> 00:36:40,830
going to stay true to your oath and
uphold the law.
581
00:36:55,310 --> 00:36:57,190
How'd it go? Jury got it.
582
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,080
If you didn't want to close, why didn't
you just say so, Bobby? My closing. You
583
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,620
phoned me and you stood up there. Back
up, Eugene. Nobody closes like you can,
584
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,860
and that was half -assed by the numbers.
I said back up. All right, cut it out.
585
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,480
We don't need this. Look, I don't want
that guy on the street either.
586
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,140
That's not what this is about. We have a
job to do.
587
00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:21,620
Everybody in this room did their job,
even Lindsey. It was your job to deliver
588
00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:24,560
your best, Bobby, and you were up and
down in 30 seconds.
589
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:28,560
What are we?
590
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:33,780
Huh? Some clients we try our hardest
for, others we pull back?
591
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,600
When the hell are we?
592
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,520
I don't disagree, but it's his wife,
Eugene.
593
00:38:17,720 --> 00:38:21,180
Maybe you don't have to excuse him
because of that.
594
00:38:24,340 --> 00:38:26,260
But I would think you could understand.
595
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,400
Clerk's office just called.
596
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,140
They have a verdict.
597
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,380
The defendant will please rise.
598
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,300
Mr. Foreman, the jury has a unanimous
verdict.
599
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:06,920
Yes, Your Honor.
600
00:39:07,060 --> 00:39:08,060
What say you?
601
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:10,180
Commonwealth v.
602
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:13,800
Lawrence O'Malley on three counts of
murder in the first degree.
603
00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:18,540
We find the defendant, Lawrence
O'Malley, not guilty.
604
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,200
On three counts of murder in the second
degree.
605
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:28,460
We find the defendant, Lawrence
O'Malley, not guilty.
606
00:39:29,780 --> 00:39:31,060
Straight, not guilty.
607
00:39:31,420 --> 00:39:34,940
Your Honor, the Commonwealth seeks to
place the defendant under arrest for
608
00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:39,620
concealing and consuming human bodies.
Hold on. My client was only charged with
609
00:39:39,620 --> 00:39:42,080
murder. These crimes would be lesser
included offenses.
610
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,760
Double jeopardy would attach.
611
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,840
I agree. You can't now arrest him for
lesser included, Ms. Gamble. The
612
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,060
has been found not guilty.
613
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:52,580
He is free to go.
614
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,840
Please release him from the restraint.
615
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,880
Your Honor, this man is clearly
dangerous.
616
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,420
Gamble, he's been acquitted. He's free
to go.
617
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:03,920
We're adjourned.
618
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:10,460
Thank
619
00:40:10,460 --> 00:40:17,920
you,
620
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:18,920
Bobby.
621
00:40:19,220 --> 00:40:20,980
Eugene, you were sensational.
622
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:31,790
Clary? Mr. O'Malley?
623
00:40:32,670 --> 00:40:36,150
Mr. O'Malley. Mr. O'Malley, were you
surprised by the verdict? Does everybody
624
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:37,350
else seem to be? No, not at all.
625
00:40:37,590 --> 00:40:38,590
What do you think?
626
00:40:42,310 --> 00:40:49,210
To say the least, I mean, it was a bit
intimidating. I'm glad it's over.
627
00:40:49,790 --> 00:40:51,670
It wasn't that we thought he was
innocent.
628
00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:55,990
In fact, we all figured him to be
guilty. We just couldn't get there
629
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:58,270
reasonable doubt. Not with that other
murder.
630
00:41:03,170 --> 00:41:04,170
I'm sorry.
631
00:41:04,210 --> 00:41:08,810
I think it's the way I handle things.
632
00:41:11,890 --> 00:41:16,670
If I can pretend I'm okay, then... So
I...
633
00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:35,380
about how you feel.
634
00:41:36,220 --> 00:41:38,440
You keep it all in until you just
explode.
635
00:41:42,020 --> 00:41:44,140
It isn't just me here.
636
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,960
I know.
637
00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:53,180
We both need to do better, Bobby.
638
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,940
But you and I, we won't make it.
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