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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,740 Previously on The Practice. I have a good portion of the money. 2 00:00:04,100 --> 00:00:05,420 You're two weeks late now. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,460 I'm going to borrow some money from my retirement account. 4 00:00:08,700 --> 00:00:13,000 My proposal is this. You provide some legal services and your debt goes away. 5 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:14,900 The guy's my bookie. What do you owe? 6 00:00:15,180 --> 00:00:16,320 27 ,000. 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,820 His ex -wife is suing him for fraud. 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,120 He won a lottery. She's claiming he didn't tell her. 9 00:00:22,460 --> 00:00:25,040 I get 70 and you get 30. 10 00:00:28,110 --> 00:00:30,690 You believe this? They think I whacked her. Did you? 11 00:00:31,250 --> 00:00:33,930 Check my alibi. You want peace of mind. Did you have it done? 12 00:00:34,270 --> 00:00:35,390 All right, just get me out. 13 00:00:36,130 --> 00:00:38,350 Your wife's estate can still make a claim. 14 00:00:38,690 --> 00:00:40,530 You want me to follow up on that? No. 15 00:00:41,710 --> 00:00:44,170 Think I might engage a new counsel just the same. 16 00:00:44,490 --> 00:00:46,390 So I guess we're done then. 17 00:00:46,670 --> 00:00:48,450 You still owe me the 27, Jimmy. 18 00:00:49,050 --> 00:00:50,430 Didn't exactly work that off. 19 00:00:50,730 --> 00:00:52,590 What do you say you walk out the door? 20 00:00:53,130 --> 00:00:54,150 Forget my dad. 21 00:00:55,210 --> 00:00:58,030 And I'll forget how you threatened to kill your wife. 22 00:00:58,330 --> 00:01:01,770 Truth is, I got more on you than you got on me. 23 00:01:03,110 --> 00:01:07,030 I'm asking you to get out of this office now. 24 00:01:08,490 --> 00:01:09,570 I need that money. 25 00:01:10,130 --> 00:01:11,210 I'll give you a week. 26 00:01:17,530 --> 00:01:20,870 I can't even believe they're letting him out. He's managed to convince the 27 00:01:20,870 --> 00:01:22,270 Shrinks he's no longer a danger. 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,340 If there even still is. 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,740 We were wondering if we could somehow 30 00:01:54,670 --> 00:01:58,250 Force him to tell us where the remains are. I really don't see how. 31 00:01:59,430 --> 00:02:02,750 If he were to tell us where the body is, he'd effectively be admitting to the 32 00:02:02,750 --> 00:02:06,230 murder. We're told you have a relationship with the DA's office. 33 00:02:06,770 --> 00:02:11,810 Could you... We were thinking, if you could get them to consider filing 34 00:02:11,810 --> 00:02:15,610 against Pierce for the kidnapping, that would give you some leverage, wouldn't 35 00:02:15,610 --> 00:02:17,510 it? Maybe we could make some deal. 36 00:02:17,750 --> 00:02:21,550 I know you've been to the DA's office, and I know what they've told you. 37 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,140 Because we're just two anonymous people walking in off the street. They know 38 00:02:26,140 --> 00:02:32,760 you. If you ask... Mr. Baldwin, first of all, this kidnapping happened 18 years 39 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:33,760 ago. 40 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,300 If they couldn't build a case then, there's no way. 41 00:02:42,060 --> 00:02:44,060 I think you have to let it go now. 42 00:02:45,420 --> 00:02:46,980 We can't let it go. 43 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,580 We need to bury our son. 44 00:03:47,250 --> 00:03:52,270 Wrongful death for a murder that took place 18 years ago? It's a long shot. 45 00:03:52,450 --> 00:03:53,450 What's the end game? 46 00:03:53,730 --> 00:03:55,870 Even if you do win, does he have any assets? 47 00:03:56,190 --> 00:03:58,110 It's not about money. Then what's it about? 48 00:03:58,410 --> 00:04:00,150 The parents want to bury their son. 49 00:04:00,830 --> 00:04:04,890 They want closure. If I can create the threat of a lawsuit, maybe we can get 50 00:04:04,890 --> 00:04:06,710 this guy to reveal where the remains are. 51 00:04:08,110 --> 00:04:11,590 Forgive me, I don't mean to be insensitive, but suppose you do succeed. 52 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:13,510 What's our contingency? 53 00:04:13,750 --> 00:04:15,070 Lindsay, try to get the police records. 54 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,079 Find out whatever the DA's office has or had. 55 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,079 Eleanor, research the statute of limitations issue. That'll definitely be 56 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:24,760 challenged. Rebecca, you and Jimmy get started on the complaint. 57 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:26,360 Where is Jimmy? 58 00:04:30,060 --> 00:04:31,060 Thanks. 59 00:04:34,460 --> 00:04:37,020 Jimmy. How long has it been? 60 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:39,220 Aunt Marie's funeral. 61 00:04:39,660 --> 00:04:40,660 Too long. 62 00:04:40,940 --> 00:04:41,940 You put on weight. 63 00:04:42,340 --> 00:04:43,340 Yeah. 64 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,420 And you're like this big fat cat yourself now. 65 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:47,900 Parking lot king. 66 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,040 Yeah, king. 67 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,500 I barely got a one and a quarter percent profit margin going here. 68 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,800 What's up, Jim? 69 00:04:59,540 --> 00:05:02,100 Well... We're family. 70 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:07,160 I've gotten myself into a little bit of a financial jam. 71 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:12,240 Normal circumstances, I would never hit you up for a loan. Normal circumstances? 72 00:05:13,070 --> 00:05:14,070 I'd give it to you. 73 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:19,910 Problem is, Jimmy, I just had to write a sizable check myself, so it's going to 74 00:05:19,910 --> 00:05:21,970 depend on how big your little bit of a jam is. 75 00:05:23,050 --> 00:05:25,270 I'm feeling sick to my stomach just asking. 76 00:05:26,190 --> 00:05:27,190 You owe your book. 77 00:05:30,090 --> 00:05:31,090 I keep tabs. 78 00:05:31,310 --> 00:05:32,310 You're family. 79 00:05:32,850 --> 00:05:34,170 Plus, I like the ponies myself. 80 00:05:35,510 --> 00:05:36,510 How much? 81 00:05:36,550 --> 00:05:38,530 It's more football than... How much? 82 00:05:40,810 --> 00:05:41,810 Twenty -seven grand. 83 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,200 I wish I could help you, but the timing's just not good. 84 00:05:58,420 --> 00:05:59,420 Hey, listen. 85 00:06:00,380 --> 00:06:01,380 Listen. 86 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,520 I got a tip on a horse running at Suffolk day after tomorrow. 87 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,480 He's a sure winner. I bet on too many sure winners, Dom. 88 00:06:09,140 --> 00:06:10,340 How I gotten this, man? 89 00:06:11,820 --> 00:06:15,500 Well, like I said, I wish I could help. 90 00:06:19,950 --> 00:06:21,910 I'm going to serve him with the complaint myself. 91 00:06:23,050 --> 00:06:26,290 Now listen, you'll have to sign a confidentiality agreement. 92 00:06:27,330 --> 00:06:30,870 Why? Because there's no way he's going to tell us where the body is if he 93 00:06:30,870 --> 00:06:32,130 you'll go running to the police. 94 00:06:32,850 --> 00:06:36,870 This isn't about that. I understand, but he'll obviously need to be convinced. 95 00:06:37,530 --> 00:06:39,830 We will give him whatever he wants. 96 00:06:40,550 --> 00:06:42,190 Just tell us where Chad is. 97 00:06:43,090 --> 00:06:46,810 You'll agree not to pursue him civilly or criminally. We understand. 98 00:06:47,550 --> 00:06:48,550 May I go with you? 99 00:06:49,130 --> 00:06:50,129 To the prison? 100 00:06:50,130 --> 00:06:52,270 I don't think that's a great idea. 101 00:06:52,890 --> 00:06:53,890 A mother's plea. 102 00:06:54,010 --> 00:06:55,710 This is not about a plea, Mrs. Baldwin. 103 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:58,430 This is a threat. 104 00:06:59,830 --> 00:07:01,110 Better it come from a lawyer. 105 00:07:04,810 --> 00:07:05,810 Are you serious? 106 00:07:06,170 --> 00:07:09,990 I'm just asking you to check it out. Lindsay, a kidnapping that happened 18 107 00:07:09,990 --> 00:07:12,510 years ago, I can promise you it's inactive. 108 00:07:12,750 --> 00:07:16,150 I'd just like you to review the file if you could. Assuming I can even find it. 109 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:17,410 And tell me what you have. 110 00:07:23,299 --> 00:07:27,200 Please. I just want to make sure you've truly considered the ramifications of 111 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,340 closing out your IRA. 112 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:29,720 I have. 113 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,940 Realizing that you'll be liable for taxes on the entire amount. 114 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,360 Realizing that. 115 00:07:36,900 --> 00:07:41,380 Also realizing you'll pay a fairly onerous penalty for early withdrawal. 116 00:07:41,740 --> 00:07:42,740 Also realizing. 117 00:07:50,150 --> 00:07:51,250 Approximately $8 ,200. 118 00:07:52,990 --> 00:07:54,030 $8 ,200? 119 00:07:54,830 --> 00:07:56,910 My retirement fund is $8 ,200? 120 00:07:57,470 --> 00:08:02,090 You're 23 years shy of retirement age. With your maximum annual contribution, 121 00:08:02,090 --> 00:08:04,030 you let the current amount intact... Just give me the money. 122 00:08:10,770 --> 00:08:17,250 Look, I had nothing to do with that Baldwin kid going missing. It wasn't me. 123 00:08:18,190 --> 00:08:19,250 You'll need a lawyer. 124 00:08:20,330 --> 00:08:24,350 If the trial starts before your release, you'll be transported to and from 125 00:08:24,350 --> 00:08:28,970 court. They never even arrested me. You know why? Because I didn't do it. 126 00:08:29,250 --> 00:08:32,590 Like you never molested those three little boys who put you in here? 127 00:08:36,870 --> 00:08:37,870 You married? 128 00:08:39,890 --> 00:08:42,169 Is that a threat, Mr. Pierce? 129 00:08:42,530 --> 00:08:46,790 No, it's not a threat. Look, she's got to be here for this. Yes, she does. 130 00:08:47,390 --> 00:08:48,390 I need a witness. 131 00:08:49,900 --> 00:08:51,180 I ask if you're married. 132 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,420 I see the ring on your finger. You probably got a nice wife. 133 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,100 You feel like getting it off? 134 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,840 She's who you probably think of. You got fantasies about other women? 135 00:09:04,260 --> 00:09:06,140 That's cool. Everybody understands. 136 00:09:06,380 --> 00:09:07,239 Am I right? 137 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,080 What are you talking about? I'm explaining something. 138 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,920 Nobody on the planet can help who they're attracted to. For me... 139 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,720 It was always little boys. 140 00:09:23,180 --> 00:09:27,900 I fooled myself into thinking it was okay. It didn't hurt anybody. Not 141 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,020 I did some bad things. 142 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,360 I admit it. 143 00:09:38,380 --> 00:09:39,740 And I gotta live with that. 144 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:43,160 So do all the boys you hurt. 145 00:09:44,020 --> 00:09:46,700 Yeah. And I gotta live with that, too. 146 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,580 But I had nothing to do with your client's kid, and they got no right to 147 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:59,160 I could probably get them to drop the suit. 148 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,100 They just want to know where their son is. 149 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,060 I don't know what happened to that kid. 150 00:10:16,060 --> 00:10:17,660 Have your attorney call me. 151 00:10:28,940 --> 00:10:29,960 He denied it? 152 00:10:30,860 --> 00:10:33,540 Yes. Did he deny molesting those other boys? 153 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,960 No. 154 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,100 But he said he didn't kidnap your son. 155 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,400 So what happens now? 156 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,340 He retained a lawyer. 157 00:10:44,100 --> 00:10:45,100 A good one. 158 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,100 She filed an immediate motion for summary judgment. 159 00:10:48,380 --> 00:10:51,440 We go and argue that next, if we can get by that. 160 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,040 We can at least have some leverage to make him talk. 161 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:02,020 So I'll meet you at the courthouse at 10 o 'clock. Okay. 162 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,400 Thank you. 163 00:11:04,740 --> 00:11:05,740 Good night. 164 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:09,480 Hey, Jimmy. 165 00:11:11,860 --> 00:11:12,860 Hi. 166 00:11:15,220 --> 00:11:16,600 Everything squared away with your bookie? 167 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,380 At least I heard cops haven't arrested him yet. 168 00:11:20,020 --> 00:11:22,300 I'm not really following it since he fired me and all. 169 00:11:22,740 --> 00:11:24,540 I'm talking about the money you owe him. 170 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,120 Oh, that. 171 00:11:26,660 --> 00:11:27,660 Yeah. 172 00:11:27,850 --> 00:11:29,330 We're in the past tense on that. 173 00:11:30,130 --> 00:11:31,130 Definitely. 174 00:11:32,990 --> 00:11:33,990 Good. 175 00:11:43,390 --> 00:11:47,370 Death would be presumed after seven years, Your Honor, which means the 176 00:11:47,370 --> 00:11:52,030 of limitations for wrongful death has long since run. Unless there's fraud 177 00:11:52,030 --> 00:11:55,130 prevented the Baldwins from finding out that he caused the wrongful death. 178 00:11:55,390 --> 00:11:56,430 There wasn't any fraud. 179 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,220 John Pierce disappeared days after kidnapping. 180 00:11:59,460 --> 00:12:04,080 Allegedly kidnapping. He also assumed a false name and identity, Alexander Riot. 181 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,320 That's fraud? 182 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:10,220 Mr. Pierce wanted a fresh start, to get out from under the cloud of unfounded, 183 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:11,340 unjust suspicion. 184 00:12:11,620 --> 00:12:16,400 He was convicted of sex crimes under this alias in another state. It took the 185 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,840 Baldwin's investigator to figure out that Pierce and Riot were one and the 186 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,780 Why didn't your clients at least file their lawsuit within the prescribed 187 00:12:24,780 --> 00:12:25,780 to preserve their claim? 188 00:12:25,980 --> 00:12:28,620 It would have been pointless since they couldn't locate the defendant. 189 00:12:28,980 --> 00:12:32,360 You don't need to know where a defendant is in order to file a lawsuit. You do 190 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,620 in order to serve him. He was found. Three years later, they could have 191 00:12:36,620 --> 00:12:37,519 him in prison. 192 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,520 All right. 193 00:12:39,060 --> 00:12:42,860 I'm going to let the claim survive the statute of limitations challenge. 194 00:12:43,380 --> 00:12:46,760 But as to whether there's a case here at all... 195 00:12:47,150 --> 00:12:50,430 There wasn't even enough evidence for the police to make an arrest. Different 196 00:12:50,430 --> 00:12:54,190 standard of proof in criminal cases. This is civil. Oh, who's kidding who? If 197 00:12:54,190 --> 00:12:58,030 the police thought he had kidnapped Chad Baldwin... The police did and do think 198 00:12:58,030 --> 00:13:01,150 that. They're just unable to prove it. And you think you can? 199 00:13:01,410 --> 00:13:04,910 I would like at least to be allowed to conduct discovery. 200 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,660 I'm going to grant you a short evidentiary hearing. 201 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,840 If you can make a showing that you have anything worth submitting to a jury, 202 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:16,920 I'll let it stand. 203 00:13:17,180 --> 00:13:19,860 Otherwise, I'm granting the defendant's motion. 204 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:22,880 We'll see you back here tomorrow, 10 a .m. 205 00:13:23,660 --> 00:13:24,660 Tomorrow? 206 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,400 If you're not ready to make a showing, counsel, after 18 years, that certainly 207 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,480 gives me pause. 208 00:13:31,940 --> 00:13:32,940 We'll be here. 209 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Put the defendant back into custody. 210 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,260 We just want to give him a funeral. 211 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,380 I will forgive you. Jenny. If you just... Honey. Honey, 212 00:13:55,380 --> 00:13:57,200 Jenny. Please. Don't. Come on. Please. 213 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,720 I'm sorry. It's all right. 214 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,400 Okay. It's time to put up or shut up. 215 00:14:12,650 --> 00:14:14,770 Do we have the transcripts from the previous trials? 216 00:14:15,030 --> 00:14:17,370 Lucy ordered them. Okay, Jenny, you testify first. 217 00:14:17,650 --> 00:14:21,170 Okay. You might be attacked on memory the fact that it happened 18 years ago. 218 00:14:21,410 --> 00:14:25,110 I've been playing it back for 18 years, Mr. Donald. I remember it as if it was 219 00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:26,110 yesterday. 220 00:14:26,630 --> 00:14:27,630 Good. 221 00:14:39,550 --> 00:14:40,750 Hi, Jimmy. How you doing? 222 00:14:41,390 --> 00:14:42,970 I asked you not to come back here. 223 00:14:44,210 --> 00:14:45,210 Take a walk with me. 224 00:14:46,030 --> 00:14:47,030 Let's go. 225 00:15:02,910 --> 00:15:03,910 Is this all of it? 226 00:15:04,190 --> 00:15:06,030 I just gave you 14 .8. 227 00:15:06,310 --> 00:15:08,090 Which I appreciate, but you owe me 33. 228 00:15:08,730 --> 00:15:10,670 27. 33 with the juice. 229 00:15:11,690 --> 00:15:15,650 8 .25%. This is every penny I can get my hands on. 230 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:20,890 Morris, what a surprise. You know Jimmy Berluti? 231 00:15:23,950 --> 00:15:27,350 Look, Jimmy, I know what you're thinking. Morris is a big guy. I brought 232 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:29,930 here to rough you up, just like in the movies, right? 233 00:15:30,690 --> 00:15:32,650 Kind of cliche, if you ask me. 234 00:15:33,410 --> 00:15:38,350 But I'll tell you, whatever words people might use to describe me. 235 00:15:46,020 --> 00:15:47,440 Original isn't one of them. 236 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,200 36 hours. 237 00:15:52,060 --> 00:15:53,060 I'll have the rest. 238 00:15:53,580 --> 00:15:54,680 You got till tomorrow. 239 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,140 We just caught a break. What? That was a guy named Bud Reynolds. He's a resident 240 00:16:06,140 --> 00:16:06,999 at State Prison. 241 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,440 He claims John Pierce told him he kidnapped the Baldwin boy. 242 00:16:11,420 --> 00:16:12,420 Rebecca, let's go. 243 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:22,200 John Pierce confessed to you he kidnapped, abused, and killed Chad Bull. 244 00:16:22,820 --> 00:16:29,360 Yeah. After 18 years of denying it, he suddenly tells a stranger he did it. We 245 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,360 weren't strangers. 246 00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:31,380 We were friends. 247 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,360 Which explains why you're ratting on him. 248 00:16:33,620 --> 00:16:36,900 Hey, you don't gotta believe me. It's nothing to me. 249 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Why? Why what? Why so public -spirited? What's in it for you? That warm glow you 250 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:44,840 get right here. 251 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,700 When you squash a maggot. 252 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,860 I said we were friends. 253 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,080 We're not now. 254 00:16:52,660 --> 00:16:54,720 When did this conversation take place? 255 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,380 Six, eight months ago. 256 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:59,840 Why didn't you report it? 257 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,120 Tell you the truth. 258 00:17:01,660 --> 00:17:05,380 I kept hoping somebody would stick a shank in his throat, but nobody ever 259 00:17:05,660 --> 00:17:07,060 And he's getting out soon. 260 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:11,920 How exactly did this conversation come about? 261 00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:13,780 I don't remember. 262 00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:15,359 Just came up. 263 00:17:18,609 --> 00:17:23,589 Jailhouse informants lie all the time. But to the police, to cut a deal here, 264 00:17:23,770 --> 00:17:24,849 what would be his motive? 265 00:17:25,130 --> 00:17:27,609 Maybe just to get a day in court, break up the week. 266 00:17:27,890 --> 00:17:29,090 Did he seem believable? 267 00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:30,430 I couldn't really tell. 268 00:17:31,930 --> 00:17:37,150 He's not asking for anything, which makes me suspect he's probably telling 269 00:17:37,150 --> 00:17:38,150 truth. 270 00:17:40,410 --> 00:17:41,690 So he is dead. 271 00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:43,950 My son. 272 00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:47,270 Pardon me, thought. 273 00:17:48,970 --> 00:17:51,410 He was really still alive somewhere. 274 00:17:54,090 --> 00:17:55,530 Hoped, I guess. 275 00:18:09,890 --> 00:18:10,890 Geez, 276 00:18:11,710 --> 00:18:15,870 Jimmy. I told you the time and... Can you help me with anything? 277 00:18:16,290 --> 00:18:17,790 A couple of thousand. 278 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,160 It's killing me. 279 00:18:19,780 --> 00:18:20,820 But I can't. 280 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:26,960 You okay? 281 00:18:28,060 --> 00:18:29,060 You don't look good. 282 00:18:33,980 --> 00:18:35,300 Tell me about this horse. 283 00:18:41,340 --> 00:18:42,600 We were at the park. 284 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,440 We used to go every morning. It was Chad's favorite thing to do. 285 00:18:46,860 --> 00:18:48,040 What would your son do there? 286 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:53,000 He loved constructing things in the sandbox, I guess like any four -year 287 00:18:53,260 --> 00:18:56,600 This day he was playing with his Legos. And what were you doing? 288 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,600 I was watching him, as well as my daughter Susan, who was on the swings. 289 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:02,100 And what happened? 290 00:19:02,340 --> 00:19:06,640 Susan fell off a swing and hurt herself, and she was crying. I ran over to see 291 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,700 about her, maybe 30 or 40 seconds. 292 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,100 And when I looked back, Chad was gone. 293 00:19:14,830 --> 00:19:18,510 While your son was playing, did you see anybody else in the area? 294 00:19:18,930 --> 00:19:20,270 I saw that man. 295 00:19:20,550 --> 00:19:21,509 John Pierce? 296 00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:25,450 Yes. He was at a water fountain about 20 feet away from where Chad was playing. 297 00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:26,750 What was he doing? 298 00:19:26,890 --> 00:19:28,690 Just standing there watching the children. 299 00:19:29,010 --> 00:19:30,270 Did that make you nervous? 300 00:19:30,650 --> 00:19:32,430 I really didn't think about it. 301 00:19:33,610 --> 00:19:39,350 I had seen him before, and he always seemed a little weird, but none of the 302 00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:41,590 mothers knew he was a child molester. 303 00:19:42,250 --> 00:19:43,850 Objection. I'll ignore it. 304 00:19:44,250 --> 00:19:48,250 After you noticed that your son was gone, did you see Mr. Pierce? 305 00:19:48,550 --> 00:19:50,030 No, he was gone too. 306 00:19:50,650 --> 00:19:52,210 It all happened in seconds. 307 00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:58,230 Mrs. Baldwin, did you see anyone else nearby who could have disappeared with 308 00:19:58,230 --> 00:20:00,250 Chad in a matter of seconds? 309 00:20:00,910 --> 00:20:02,450 No. Thank you. 310 00:20:10,590 --> 00:20:13,630 Mr. Pierce actually worked at the park, didn't he? 311 00:20:14,500 --> 00:20:16,460 Evidently. You said he seemed weird. 312 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,160 Had you ever complained about him to anyone? 313 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,060 No. To your knowledge, did any of the mothers ever complain about Mr. Pierce's 314 00:20:24,060 --> 00:20:25,220 behavior toward their children? 315 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:26,960 Not to my knowledge. 316 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,680 Did you ever see him behave in a scary or inappropriate manner around the 317 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,680 children? 318 00:20:32,860 --> 00:20:34,440 He stared at them sometimes. 319 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,720 You never did see him abduct your son, did you? I didn't see it. So it could 320 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:40,760 have been somebody else. 321 00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:43,020 Nobody else was near Chad. How do you know? 322 00:20:43,690 --> 00:20:46,750 If Mr. Pierce could disappear into the trees, someone else could have been 323 00:20:46,750 --> 00:20:48,990 hiding in there, couldn't they? It was him. 324 00:20:51,910 --> 00:20:55,570 It helps to have somebody to blame, doesn't it, Mrs. Baldwin? 325 00:20:56,350 --> 00:20:57,850 To give the monster a face. 326 00:20:58,950 --> 00:21:00,450 Even if it's the wrong face. 327 00:21:01,050 --> 00:21:02,050 Objection. Withdrawn. 328 00:21:02,930 --> 00:21:03,930 That's all I have. 329 00:21:32,430 --> 00:21:34,330 Are you authorized to make withdrawals from this account? 330 00:21:34,650 --> 00:21:35,910 I'm a lawyer with the firm. 331 00:21:36,390 --> 00:21:37,530 James Berluti. 332 00:21:38,350 --> 00:21:39,930 I should be on record here. 333 00:21:40,430 --> 00:21:41,510 The manager knows me. 334 00:21:42,210 --> 00:21:44,010 Mr. Berluti, I'll just have to get this approved. 335 00:21:44,730 --> 00:21:45,730 $15 ,000? 336 00:21:45,850 --> 00:21:47,690 Yes. Okay. It'll just take a second. 337 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:04,030 We found three Legos in his apartment. 338 00:22:04,430 --> 00:22:06,410 Did John Pierce tell you how they got there? 339 00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:09,370 Yes, he said he had them when his nephews came over. 340 00:22:09,670 --> 00:22:14,050 Three Legos? Yes. Three lone Legos? That's correct. 341 00:22:14,370 --> 00:22:17,530 Did you determine how often his nephews, in fact, came over? 342 00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:19,890 We determined he had no nephews. 343 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:25,790 Were you ever able to determine that the Legos you found in Mr. Pierce's 344 00:22:25,790 --> 00:22:27,370 apartment belonged to Chad Baldwin? 345 00:22:28,150 --> 00:22:29,150 No, we were not. 346 00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:30,270 Any evidence? 347 00:22:30,490 --> 00:22:33,270 of Chad Baldwin ever being present in my client's apartment? 348 00:22:33,710 --> 00:22:39,570 No. Any physical, testimonial, or forensic evidence to suggest that Chad 349 00:22:39,570 --> 00:22:42,030 ever came in contact with John Pierce? 350 00:22:42,490 --> 00:22:45,930 Only the testimony of the mother, who said she saw him close to her son. 351 00:22:50,790 --> 00:22:52,510 I wish I could be more optimistic. 352 00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:54,870 What about the informant? 353 00:22:55,070 --> 00:22:58,170 He's going up next, but his credibility... 354 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,230 The only other thing I can think of is to call Pierce. 355 00:23:04,530 --> 00:23:08,050 If he doesn't take the fifth, maybe if I go at him hard enough, he'll say 356 00:23:08,050 --> 00:23:09,410 something to incriminate himself. 357 00:23:10,290 --> 00:23:13,690 Contrary to the myth, not all child molesters are rocket scientists. 358 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:22,430 12 359 00:23:22,430 --> 00:23:29,210 ,000. 360 00:23:29,550 --> 00:23:30,550 A number four. 361 00:23:31,530 --> 00:23:33,070 Maddie's charm. To win. 362 00:23:34,350 --> 00:23:35,430 $100 exact to wheel. 363 00:23:36,050 --> 00:23:37,150 Maddie's charm on top. 364 00:23:39,030 --> 00:23:40,350 And $2 ,000 to show. 365 00:23:41,970 --> 00:23:42,970 That's a number four. 366 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,660 Eugene, this just came through the fax. 367 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,180 It's... What? 368 00:24:03,180 --> 00:24:05,060 A CTR form from the bank. 369 00:24:05,740 --> 00:24:07,200 There's been a withdrawal from the Peterson. 370 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,480 Before we move on to what Mr. Pierce said to you, can you tell me how you 371 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:21,359 about him? 372 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:22,780 I can't stand him. 373 00:24:23,180 --> 00:24:24,660 I make no bones there. 374 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:26,680 Why don't you like Mr. Pierce? 375 00:24:27,070 --> 00:24:30,850 He told the CO I had contraband in my cell and I got put in a hole for a few 376 00:24:30,850 --> 00:24:32,690 days. What kind of contraband? 377 00:24:33,090 --> 00:24:34,090 A hot plate. 378 00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:36,950 Are you a vindictive person, Mr. Reynolds? 379 00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:39,630 Are you testifying to get back at the defendant? 380 00:24:40,090 --> 00:24:44,030 No. I just think he deserves to get out for what he did to that Baldwin boy. 381 00:24:44,410 --> 00:24:45,410 All right. 382 00:24:46,190 --> 00:24:49,070 What exactly did he tell you about that? 383 00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:54,430 He said, and this is pretty much of a quote, I sure did enjoy getting that boy 384 00:24:54,430 --> 00:24:55,950 out from under his mama's nose. 385 00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:57,930 He was a real looker. 386 00:24:58,590 --> 00:25:00,610 Did he say who he was talking about? 387 00:25:00,870 --> 00:25:05,030 He said that kid who was snatched from the park, Chad Baldwin, the one on the 388 00:25:05,030 --> 00:25:08,770 news. Did he tell you he murdered Chad? 389 00:25:09,630 --> 00:25:10,890 He didn't use that word. 390 00:25:11,750 --> 00:25:15,510 He said he cleaned up after himself and that he regretted not keeping the kid 391 00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:17,650 around longer because he was good. 392 00:25:18,130 --> 00:25:20,750 What was his demeanor as he was telling you this? 393 00:25:21,650 --> 00:25:22,710 Sort of dreamy. 394 00:25:24,330 --> 00:25:26,830 Same look a man gets when he's remembering a woman. 395 00:25:33,570 --> 00:25:34,010 Did 396 00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:48,890 he 397 00:25:48,890 --> 00:25:50,970 ever give you any specific details of this crime? 398 00:25:51,390 --> 00:25:52,550 Just what I told you. 399 00:25:52,770 --> 00:25:53,770 Just that he did it? 400 00:25:54,060 --> 00:25:55,060 And enjoyed it. 401 00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:58,500 Isn't it true that you told Mr. Pierce you were going to get even with him? 402 00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,880 No, it's not. 403 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:02,040 What are you serving a sentence for, Mr. Reynolds? 404 00:26:02,780 --> 00:26:03,780 Embezzlement and assault. 405 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,600 So we can safely assume you are both a dishonest and a violent person, can we 406 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,800 not? I am telling the truth here. 407 00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:13,840 You even have a reputation in prison for being a snitch, don't you? 408 00:26:14,260 --> 00:26:18,040 Undeserved. Makes sense that Mr. Pierce would confess to a known snitch, doesn't 409 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,120 it? Well, I find pedophiles lack judgment. 410 00:27:18,990 --> 00:27:20,070 Anything else, Mr. Donald? 411 00:27:20,510 --> 00:27:21,510 Yes, Your Honor. 412 00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:23,570 We call John Pierce to the stand. 413 00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:27,750 Objection. Mr. Donald knows full well I'm not about to allow that to happen. 414 00:27:27,870 --> 00:27:29,490 This is a civil proceeding. 415 00:27:29,710 --> 00:27:32,910 I can call whoever... In that criminal charges could follow, my client is 416 00:27:32,910 --> 00:27:36,430 allowed to assert his Fifth Amendment right not to testify, and my advice for 417 00:27:36,430 --> 00:27:40,310 him to do exactly that won't be subtle. Given that 18 years have passed, the 418 00:27:40,310 --> 00:27:43,170 likelihood that criminal charges will be brought... We're not talking 419 00:27:43,170 --> 00:27:44,610 likelihoods. There's still a chance. 420 00:27:45,070 --> 00:27:46,070 This man... 421 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,680 is a convicted child molester. He was seen and identified as being within 50 422 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,820 feet of the victim at the time of the kidnapping. 423 00:27:54,340 --> 00:27:57,480 Chad Baldwin was playing with Legos at the time. 424 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,280 Legos were found in that bastard's apartment. 425 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,520 Objection, Mr. Donald. 426 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,900 We all know we can't get him criminally. At least give us a chance to get him 427 00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:09,840 civilly. Counsel, step up. 428 00:28:16,750 --> 00:28:22,170 First, Mr. Donald, as much as I admire your passion, you are not exactly known 429 00:28:22,170 --> 00:28:27,270 as a champion of fair play, so I would delete the moral indignation from your 430 00:28:27,270 --> 00:28:28,270 repertoire. 431 00:28:29,730 --> 00:28:30,730 Now, 432 00:28:31,290 --> 00:28:37,530 Ms. Lightstone, true, your client does not have to testify here, but if he 433 00:28:37,530 --> 00:28:39,970 doesn't, you might not like my finding. 434 00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:43,450 My client is judgment -proof. I'm not terribly concerned. I'm not talking 435 00:28:43,450 --> 00:28:44,450 civil liability. 436 00:28:44,610 --> 00:28:45,890 What are you talking about? 437 00:28:46,410 --> 00:28:51,830 you're a good lawyer henrietta figure it out as a convicted pedophile your 438 00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:55,870 client can be kept in jail even after his sentence has expired if he's 439 00:28:55,870 --> 00:28:59,750 considered to be a danger to society he has already satisfied the psychiatrist 440 00:28:59,750 --> 00:29:06,110 that he's not yes they consider him to be rehabilitated full of remorse well 441 00:29:06,110 --> 00:29:10,930 from where i sit and i tend to like the view up here i'm not getting that 442 00:29:10,930 --> 00:29:13,910 picture if he refuses to testify 443 00:29:15,310 --> 00:29:18,730 That makes me concerned as to whether he has truly reformed. 444 00:29:18,970 --> 00:29:19,970 What are you saying? 445 00:29:20,190 --> 00:29:21,910 I want to hear from him. 446 00:29:22,590 --> 00:29:26,950 Otherwise, the district attorney's office might want to bring civil 447 00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:29,030 proceedings, and your client may never get out. 448 00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:30,530 This is blackmail. 449 00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:33,630 I'm just pointing out risks, counsel. 450 00:29:34,350 --> 00:29:38,030 So, if my client refuses to testify, you can find him uncooperative and 451 00:29:38,030 --> 00:29:39,250 recommend he stay locked up forever. 452 00:29:39,490 --> 00:29:42,210 And if he testifies and slips up, he could stay locked up forever. 453 00:29:43,650 --> 00:29:44,650 Choose your poison. 454 00:29:53,009 --> 00:29:54,550 Now we have our leverage. 455 00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:58,770 He's got a strong incentive to tell us where the body is if it'll stop this 456 00:29:58,770 --> 00:30:02,810 train. There's no way they want to risk testifying. If he did testify, do you 457 00:30:02,810 --> 00:30:05,610 think you could get him? I should be able to shake him enough to give spindle 458 00:30:05,610 --> 00:30:07,390 doubts. That's what they have to be afraid of now. 459 00:30:07,710 --> 00:30:09,670 He's not just risking criminal prosecution. 460 00:30:10,150 --> 00:30:14,130 If he plays dodgeball with me, the D .A. could argue he's not rehabilitated and 461 00:30:14,130 --> 00:30:19,070 seek involuntary confinement. It's civil, but prison is prison. We got him 462 00:30:19,070 --> 00:30:20,070 the crossfire now. 463 00:30:20,210 --> 00:30:21,650 Our leverage is great. 464 00:30:22,429 --> 00:30:24,710 Now's the time to go back to them. With what? 465 00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:29,610 Well, if he tells us where the remains are, we drop our claim, he gets his 466 00:30:29,610 --> 00:30:33,790 freedom, and you get to have a funeral for your son. 467 00:30:37,390 --> 00:30:38,390 No. 468 00:30:48,150 --> 00:30:49,150 Why not? 469 00:30:50,050 --> 00:30:51,310 Jenny, what's wrong? 470 00:30:53,580 --> 00:30:56,680 Bobby, you asked us at the beginning why we hired you. 471 00:30:57,700 --> 00:31:02,060 And I gave you an honest answer that we wanted closure. 472 00:31:02,780 --> 00:31:09,380 And? And sitting here right now, I don't know, faced with the possibility that 473 00:31:09,380 --> 00:31:13,720 he could go free, I suddenly realized I want vengeance more. 474 00:31:14,860 --> 00:31:19,580 Jenny. If the choice is get the body back and he goes free versus don't get 475 00:31:19,580 --> 00:31:22,460 body and he rocks in jail, I choose that he rocks. 476 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,680 I want him to rock. 477 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,960 Jimmy. 478 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,560 Can I see you for a minute? 479 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,560 Shut the door. 480 00:32:01,580 --> 00:32:02,580 What's up? 481 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,980 Yeah, it's a withdrawal flip. 482 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,520 What about it? 483 00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:15,200 What you need $15 ,000 for? 484 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,320 I had some expenses on the Peterson case. You're not a good liar, Jimmy. 485 00:32:21,420 --> 00:32:22,420 What's going on? 486 00:32:25,460 --> 00:32:28,820 Okay. I had a personal emergency, all right? 487 00:32:29,420 --> 00:32:32,000 The money's already back. I just came from the bank. 488 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,700 So you think that's that? 489 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:43,620 Look, Eugene, I got in a jam with a bookie. I borrowed money for like seven 490 00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:44,820 hours. You stole money. 491 00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:48,380 You took from a client's trust fund. That's theft. 492 00:32:49,540 --> 00:32:51,980 I'm sorry. It was a one -time situation. 493 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,820 Can we just let it go? No. 494 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:56,920 We can't. 495 00:32:57,649 --> 00:32:59,470 This affects the entire firm. 496 00:33:01,130 --> 00:33:02,350 I've got to bring it to Bobby. 497 00:33:02,810 --> 00:33:04,890 Please, just don't do that, please. 498 00:33:05,690 --> 00:33:07,450 Eugene, please. 499 00:33:21,090 --> 00:33:22,090 Oh, Jimmy. 500 00:33:23,770 --> 00:33:24,950 Eugene wants to see you. 501 00:33:43,150 --> 00:33:47,970 I paid it all back within six hours, plus interest. By law, we're required to 502 00:33:47,970 --> 00:33:49,890 notify the client and the bar. 503 00:33:50,790 --> 00:33:52,210 You do that, I'm dead. 504 00:33:52,410 --> 00:33:56,690 If I don't, this whole firm could get disbarred. Bobby, I could go to jail. 505 00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:57,870 Whose fault is that? 506 00:33:57,970 --> 00:34:00,090 Look, Bobby, I'm done. 507 00:34:00,310 --> 00:34:04,170 You've said that before. I'm done. You have my word. I'm supposed to risk 508 00:34:04,170 --> 00:34:06,550 everybody's reputation, risk this firm? 509 00:34:07,110 --> 00:34:08,530 On the word of an addict? 510 00:34:08,989 --> 00:34:10,050 I'm not an addict. 511 00:34:13,150 --> 00:34:14,150 I'm doing court. 512 00:34:15,610 --> 00:34:16,989 What's going to happen? I don't know. 513 00:34:29,489 --> 00:34:30,489 Thanks a lot. 514 00:34:36,409 --> 00:34:38,170 This affects everybody, Jimmy. 515 00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:41,730 Try to get that. 516 00:34:52,969 --> 00:34:58,130 Mr. Pierce, if you didn't kidnap Chad Baldwin, who did? 517 00:34:58,370 --> 00:34:59,970 I do not know. 518 00:35:00,210 --> 00:35:04,530 Do you care? Of course I care, but it wasn't me. 519 00:35:04,770 --> 00:35:07,910 You've already told a lie, haven't you? On my second question. 520 00:35:08,170 --> 00:35:12,810 Objection. You cared when Chad Baldwin was kidnapped? 521 00:35:13,350 --> 00:35:19,270 Mr. Donald, I had a sexual problem for which I received both treatment and 522 00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:21,170 medication, but I have never... 523 00:35:21,690 --> 00:35:23,550 Been a person without compassion. 524 00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:27,930 So when a four -year -old disappears, you would feel compassion? 525 00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:32,110 Yes. Would you bother to help if you could? 526 00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:33,810 Because I'm curious. 527 00:35:34,110 --> 00:35:38,610 You were there at the time, seen less than 50 feet away. You even knew the 528 00:35:38,610 --> 00:35:42,450 victim. Why didn't you go forward to the police as a possible witness? 529 00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:45,050 Because I didn't see anything. 530 00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:46,470 How do you know? 531 00:35:46,490 --> 00:35:50,350 Maybe there was something you saw seemingly irrelevant to you, but it 532 00:35:50,350 --> 00:35:51,350 provided a clue. 533 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,178 To them. 534 00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:55,000 Why didn't you at least say, hey, how can I help? 535 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,020 Look, I was afraid they'd suspect me. 536 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:00,240 Why? 537 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,340 At this point, your record was clean. 538 00:36:02,860 --> 00:36:04,380 Why would they suspect you? 539 00:36:04,660 --> 00:36:07,040 You didn't molest those other three boys till after. 540 00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:08,420 Objection. Sustained. 541 00:36:08,620 --> 00:36:14,000 Your work shift went to 4 p .m., but I see on this day you left early. I didn't 542 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,340 feel well. You didn't feel well. 543 00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:18,440 Did you go to a supervisor to say you were leaving? 544 00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:20,580 No, I just went home. 545 00:36:20,890 --> 00:36:25,250 Coincidentally, you left within 30 to 40 seconds of the time Chad Baldwin 546 00:36:25,250 --> 00:36:28,290 disappeared. Can you account for such a coincidence? 547 00:36:28,690 --> 00:36:34,370 A soon -to -be -convicted child molester is within 50 feet of a child at the 548 00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:36,430 exact time he kidnapped? 549 00:36:36,930 --> 00:36:38,090 Objection! Withdrawn. 550 00:36:39,130 --> 00:36:40,270 Why'd you leave the state? 551 00:36:40,530 --> 00:36:44,410 I cooperated completely with the police before I left the state. 552 00:36:44,690 --> 00:36:45,690 Why'd you leave, sir? 553 00:36:46,010 --> 00:36:50,830 Because I expected to get the same bias from everybody that I'm getting from 554 00:36:50,830 --> 00:36:51,830 you. So you ran? 555 00:36:52,070 --> 00:36:54,230 Yes. Tell us about those Legos. 556 00:36:54,730 --> 00:36:58,610 Why'd you tell the police the Legos were for nephews you didn't have? 557 00:36:58,830 --> 00:37:03,030 I lied. As I said, I knew they thought that I was guilty. So you lied? 558 00:37:03,810 --> 00:37:07,470 Yes. Why didn't you tell them the truth? 559 00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:13,170 Because I didn't remember when I got the Legos. So you decided to say you had 560 00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:14,170 nephews? Yes. 561 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,860 What happened to Chad Baldwin? 562 00:37:17,260 --> 00:37:18,400 I don't know. 563 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:19,720 Do you care? 564 00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:21,740 I said I care. 565 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:23,600 Because you have compassion. 566 00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:28,660 Can you feel for his parents sitting over there? 567 00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:32,620 Yes. Can you understand how they would love to get their son's remains so they 568 00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:33,780 can get some kind of closure? 569 00:37:34,060 --> 00:37:35,480 Can you understand that? 570 00:37:35,740 --> 00:37:38,520 Yes. Would you be willing to help them if you could? 571 00:37:38,780 --> 00:37:44,920 Yes, but I can't. Well, even peace of mind that you didn't take... Their son. 572 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,560 Would you be willing to give them that? 573 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,420 I'm trying right now. I appreciate that. 574 00:37:50,060 --> 00:37:51,900 Would you be willing to take a polygraph? 575 00:37:52,260 --> 00:37:54,820 Objection. I'm not talking about using it for criminal purposes. 576 00:37:55,460 --> 00:38:00,900 A private polygraph just between parties just to satisfy my clients that you 577 00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:02,400 didn't take their son. 578 00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:07,500 Would you be willing to do that so they can just move on? Those things aren't 579 00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:08,900 foolproof. Understood. 580 00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:13,340 Would you be willing? I don't care if he's willing. I won't allow it. Whatever 581 00:38:13,340 --> 00:38:14,340 your lawyer. 582 00:38:14,530 --> 00:38:19,290 advises or recommends, John, it's ultimately your decision. 583 00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:23,010 Will you take that polygraph? 584 00:38:23,330 --> 00:38:26,970 No, because I don't trust them to be reliable. 585 00:38:27,950 --> 00:38:30,130 And you insist on reliability. 586 00:38:31,050 --> 00:38:32,050 Objection. 587 00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:34,410 Nothing further. 588 00:38:38,410 --> 00:38:40,490 All right, Mr. Pierce, you may step down. 589 00:38:42,010 --> 00:38:43,030 Mr. Donald. 590 00:38:43,470 --> 00:38:44,470 Any other witnesses? 591 00:38:44,590 --> 00:38:45,348 No, Your Honor. 592 00:38:45,350 --> 00:38:46,510 Ms. Lightstone? 593 00:38:46,810 --> 00:38:48,090 No, but I'd like to be heard. 594 00:38:48,350 --> 00:38:49,350 I'm not interested. 595 00:38:50,370 --> 00:38:51,370 All right. 596 00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:57,590 If the defendant was not involved in the disappearance of Chad Baldwin, then we 597 00:38:57,590 --> 00:39:02,370 have to assume there was another skulking child molester who happened to 598 00:39:02,370 --> 00:39:05,710 hiding behind a tree in the same area at the same time. 599 00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:09,830 Mr. Pierce, you look pretty guilty to me. 600 00:39:10,490 --> 00:39:11,810 But as for evidence... 601 00:39:12,170 --> 00:39:13,170 That's all there is. 602 00:39:13,470 --> 00:39:15,290 You were there at the time and place. 603 00:39:15,930 --> 00:39:17,810 Admittedly, your job required you to be there. 604 00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:24,510 I'm going to let this case go forward. But, Mr. Donald, if you don't come up 605 00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:26,910 with more, I will be dismissing it at a later date. 606 00:39:27,390 --> 00:39:30,670 What about recommending to the district attorney's office that they file for 607 00:39:30,670 --> 00:39:31,670 civil commitment? 608 00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:37,870 I can't recommend a man's freedom be taken away based on suspicion alone. 609 00:39:39,870 --> 00:39:40,870 We're adjourned. 610 00:39:54,410 --> 00:39:55,410 I'm sorry. 611 00:39:56,590 --> 00:39:57,590 Is it over? 612 00:39:58,490 --> 00:40:02,010 No. If the wrongful death action survives, we can keep digging. 613 00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:04,690 But there's no money to be won. 614 00:40:05,950 --> 00:40:09,550 And as for keeping him in jail or finding the whereabouts of your son's 615 00:40:09,550 --> 00:40:13,770 remains... We struck out. 616 00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:17,430 I'm very sorry. 617 00:40:18,110 --> 00:40:19,110 You did your best. 618 00:40:20,070 --> 00:40:23,350 Perhaps a wiser lawyer would have steered you away from all this. 619 00:40:24,330 --> 00:40:25,590 We wouldn't let you. 620 00:40:26,330 --> 00:40:27,330 You tried. 621 00:40:51,130 --> 00:40:52,130 Mr. Donald? 622 00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:53,630 Yes. 623 00:40:54,190 --> 00:40:56,130 I'm James Tucker, and this is my mother. 624 00:40:58,690 --> 00:41:03,290 How can I help you? We've been following the Pierce trial on the news, and we 625 00:41:03,290 --> 00:41:04,290 need to talk to somebody. 626 00:41:05,390 --> 00:41:06,390 About what? 627 00:41:09,450 --> 00:41:10,950 I think I may be Chad Baldwin. 628 00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:26,300 Hakeem has had a problem holding on to the ball. 629 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,360 Last year and in preseason, Tom Ruhle, one of the best in the league, 630 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,100 kick. Hakeem feels it back at the 15 -yard line. 50377

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