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Previously on The Practice.
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His name is James McNam.
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He's a business associate of Marsha's.
The police have issued no statement as
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yet, except to confirm that a fatal
shooting did take place in the senator's
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home. This is Alan Lowe. He just came
over from Middlesex. Why do I care?
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Because he's your backup on this. My
father didn't know about the affair, but
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certainly did.
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First I got the gun, and I shot Mr.
McNabb.
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Your Honor.
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Chambers! No question, we're having our
hand forced by perjury. But the
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likelihood is he flipped out and he shot
the guy, and we would be crazy to walk
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away from this deal. I only accepted
this plea of manslaughter because my
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conscience cannot permit allowing my
daughter to accept any culpability for
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act. And if she is the shooter, I am
going to eventually prove it.
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I say this now, client.
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To attorney.
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Jim McNown had his affair with Keith.
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What? You all were so close.
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You just had the wrong spouse in bed.
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And the wrong one with the gun.
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Made a mistake.
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I will now serve time for that mistake.
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I appreciate you coming in. If this is
what I think it's about, I'm happy to
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have the discussion here instead of my
home.
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We can go into the conference room.
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I won't presume to know the anger you
must feel
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toward your husband.
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Why, Joyce?
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He's in prison for a murder he didn't
commit.
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Can you really live with that?
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Is that your concern?
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How I'm holding up?
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If I could negotiate a favorable deal
with the district attorney... No.
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Marsha... Eleanor.
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I told you what I told you under the
seal of attorney -client. I know this,
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but... Then let me tell you something
you may not know.
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If you reveal my confidence, I will sue
you.
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And this firm.
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Do you really think I'm afraid of being
sued, Marsha?
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Keith can accept it this way. Why can't
you?
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Because I can't.
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If you pull that switch, Eleanor, at
least have the presence of mind to enjoy
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it, because it will be your very last
act as a practicing attorney.
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What time? Around 9 .30, right after you
left. Did she say what she wanted? No.
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She and Eleanor went into the conference
room, but they both seemed suspicious.
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Ask Jimmy.
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John. How are you?
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I'm fine. How are you?
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Great, great, great.
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Everybody, this is, uh... Well, I know
who you are.
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John Mochner, this is Rebecca
Washington, Jimmy Berluti, Lucy Hatcher,
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Young.
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To what do I owe this?
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One to engage your services, actually.
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I have a client scheduled for execution
on Thursday.
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He wants me to be with him in Indiana,
which means I need local counsel up
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Rule 48.
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Actually, I start trial on Friday.
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Bobby, there's really nothing to do.
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I just need somebody of record, just in
case. Me.
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Me.
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I think Rebecca might be interested.
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Okay, excellent.
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Give me ten minutes, I'll bring you up
to speed.
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John Markler.
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Who's he?
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He's in for death penalty appeals.
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He's stayed more executions than
everybody else combined.
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Vivian?
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Hey, Eugene.
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What's wrong?
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Well, Leonard sent me to tell you that
he
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doesn't want you for the parole hearing.
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What do you mean he doesn't want me?
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He doesn't want you.
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Well, did he hire somebody else? No.
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He says he just wants to represent
himself at this time.
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You know how he gets.
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Let's go.
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All federal executions are in Indiana.
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Jurisdiction of the case, though, is
still in Boston, which is why I need
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counsel should there be any last -minute
appeals, which there won't be.
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Walter's waived them.
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What did he do?
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Killed a federal employee.
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Wasn't very pretty, but that was then.
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Today, he's a different man.
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And he's ready to die.
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He wants to die.
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He wants closure.
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I was hoping I'd get to do something.
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Can I meet him?
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What if he changes his mind and suddenly
does want me to file an appeal?
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It would help for me to be able to
represent to the court that I know him a
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little.
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Okay, good point.
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You want to come with me now?
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Oh, sure.
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Well, let's go.
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Keith was sleeping with the guy and she
shot him.
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But she prefaced it with client to
attorney.
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And I know ordinarily it has to be
sealed.
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But since we represent Keith as well,
and this could help him... This is why
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should have never represented both of
them. The question is, what do we do?
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I don't think there's anything we can
do. So the congressman is gay? We just
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back and let an innocent man... You try
to convince her to come forward.
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Oh, yes, she didn't exactly waver in her
response.
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Keith knows she did it, and he's taking
the fall. That's another story, but yes.
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Have her come in again and see how well
she plays poker.
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I know you did the best you could. I
know that. You also know that I paid for
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half of the investigation with my own
money.
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So you don't feel entitled to tell me
you're angry. Instead, you just dismiss
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with this passive -aggressive... Hey, if
I want to fire you... Send your wife to
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say don't come. You're fired then, okay?
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If that's the way you want to hear it,
hear it that way.
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I figured.
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The only chance to convince the board to
let me go is to go in there and put
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myself before them without the she or
the lord. Without the advice, because
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know what my advice will be. Enough!
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Shut it down!
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What message do you plan to be bringing,
Leonard?
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I'm innocent.
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Same methods as my trial.
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At appeal.
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I'm innocent.
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You will lose.
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Now, if it seems like I'm taking this
personally, it's because I know you're
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innocent. And I know I'm the lawyer who
lost this.
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I got the witnesses lined up.
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I've done my homework on the board.
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Let me do this with you, Leonard. You've
got a wife out there, man.
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A son who wants his dad to come home.
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Let me help you.
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Didn't you explain it to her?
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Yeah, but she wanted to meet you.
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Okay.
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Mr. Mockler tells me you've pretty much
given up hope.
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Who I was when I committed that crime
and who I am now.
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Two very different people.
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I guess that makes me curious as to why
the person you are now wishes to be
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executed.
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Do you know the atrocity of my crime?
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I stabbed a woman 78 times.
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I studied this.
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I prayed.
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I was trying to find a way to forgive
myself.
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And then I saw the truth.
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Forgiveness is somebody else's job.
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And he's already done it.
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He washed me clean the minute I
sincerely repented.
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When you pray, do you tell God what you
want?
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Or do you ask him what he wants?
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God doesn't forgive you so you can die
happy.
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I think he washes you clean so you can
start over, so you can learn and
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struggle.
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And do his work.
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Walter, you could live another 40 years.
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And how much good could you do in here
in that time?
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How many people could you help?
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How many souls could you save? Maybe you
could start some ministry.
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Walter, have you ever thought of that?
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We could file an emergency hearing in
First Circuit.
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He seemed like he might change his mind.
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Rebecca, let me ask you a question. Do
you think you helped him there?
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First of all, there aren't any more
issues we've exposed to them.
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There's always something.
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No. It's not going to be a stay of
execution.
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No commutation.
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All you succeeded in doing just now is
agitating him.
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So instead of dying with any sense of
closure, or feeling at peace with God,
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might now feel his death won't be
satisfactory penance.
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So, the one thing he had left to cling
to, you perhaps just stripped him of.
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It's not a cause, Rebecca.
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He's a human being who will die on
Thursday.
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Perhaps a little more painfully now.
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The prison parole officer will testify
for you. He supports your release.
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Well, you'd think that should be the end
of it.
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We wish.
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The board is made up of four
prosecutors, a retired police
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probation officer, and an advocate for
victims' rights.
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It's stacked.
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Okay.
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Let's turn to it.
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You know what I'm going to say. And you
know what I'm going to say when you do.
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If you do not take responsibility for
the crime, they will never let you out.
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will not say that I committed that
crime. I won't say, go to hell. You
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son of a bitch. You want to be proud?
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You got a kid at home without a father.
How proud is that?
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Hey, God, get him out of here. Hey, stay
the hell away. This is Lord playing.
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Don't come near us.
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I'm not leaving.
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You have to.
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They do not let people out of here
unless they show remorse.
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And that's the only way.
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It's the only way.
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I met with my partners on this, Marsha.
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and we need to inform you of our
decision.
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After very careful consideration, we've
decided to risk sanctions from the
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Massachusetts Bar, and we're going to
reveal your privilege communication to
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Frutt. We feel the sanctity of the
attorney -client privilege is simply
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outweighed by the injustice caused to
your husband.
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Add to that, as officers of the court,
we feel we have an obligation to
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that an innocent man is serving a prison
term for a crime he didn't commit.
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Now, we have two choices.
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We can go forward with you here or
without.
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Going with you, we feel we're in a
better position to protect you.
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We may even be able to negotiate a
reduced plea given our relationship with
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district attorney.
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Obviously, it's best for you to join
hands with us here.
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I completely agree with you.
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With a few small exceptions.
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First... If you reveal a privilege,
particularly this one, you don't simply
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sanctions. You'd be disbarred.
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Second, by doing so, you perhaps
unwittingly shield me from any
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since Eleanor won't be permitted to
testify, and the DA would never be able
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build a case independent of the
poisonous fruit. Third, the DA got a
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for this crime. Good luck getting her to
reconsider it.
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Fourth... I simply don't know what
Eleanor is talking about. She must have
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misunderstood something I said. And
fifth, could you all go somewhere and
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respectively self -fornicate?
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I understand I may have perhaps riled
you up.
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That was not my intent.
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I understand that. I was only trying to
convey...
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Walter, if you in your mind were
choosing death to serve God, it's
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serve God with your life's work as well.
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I think it's best if I accept my
punishment.
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Okay. I do thank you.
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It was nice to meet you.
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It's nice to have lawyers that believe
in the Lord.
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I owe my salvation to Mr. Markler.
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I know that.
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You do?
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Why?
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He opened my heart to Jesus.
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John Markler did?
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Of course.
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Did... John Mochler persuade you to
sacrifice your life for Jesus?
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He persuaded me to serve Jesus.
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To embrace him.
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And you're serving him by dying?
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By accepting the punishment for my sins.
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Let's just start.
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Can I begin? Because I don't think
there's anything to talk about.
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We can't break privilege.
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It's not that simple. I think it is.
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Privilege exists to protect the client.
Here we have competing client interests.
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It doesn't matter.
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It does matter. It's not absolute, and
there are exceptions.
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But this doesn't qualify as one of them.
Everything she said is true.
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We'd face disbarment. It wouldn't do any
good.
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Plus, what she didn't say is we're in
the business of keeping clients' secrets
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no matter what.
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There is one other way.
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Go to Keith.
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He can still blow that whistle here.
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Can I tell him what she told us?
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Is that violating privilege?
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I don't think so. And even if it does,
it's nothing that she can make a meal
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of.
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Would you be okay with me going to
Keith?
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I think we can live with that.
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He didn't exhaust all the appeals.
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What? John Mockler, the thumb he left
out for Walter Dawson, and there have
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others. What others?
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Death penalty clients who suddenly found
God and decide to waive last -minute
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appeal. John Mockler helped them all
find God.
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He's helping the state kill his clients.
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Is this why you want them to see me?
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You do seem to have a high percentage of
clients who find God.
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Right before they die.
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When was the last time you faced death,
Rebecca?
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It can make you turn to spirituality,
believe it or not.
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You said you exhausted all of Walter
Dawson's appeals.
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You didn't.
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What'd I live out?
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He was diagnosed with fetal alcohol
syndrome.
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That was raised at trial.
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For diminished capacity.
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It should have been raised again for
sentencing.
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I don't think it would have had any
effect.
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And I come down against drafting kitchen
sink appeals.
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You only lose credibility.
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You had another client, Larry Wilcox.
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You chose to raise FAS in his defense.
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I thought it was more persuasive there.
How come you didn't try it? Because I
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didn't think it would fly.
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And my client, by the way, instructed me
to drop all further appeals.
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After you helped him find God.
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Rebecca, he's going to die.
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What do you suggest they do, hand him a
copy of Chicken Soup for the Soul?
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All right. Now, I pursue all viable
appeals.
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And sometimes I even win them, if you
bothered to check up on that.
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But when there's nothing left, when
there is nothing left, I do try to give
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some consolation.
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If they feel they're getting some kind
of salvation, it helps.
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I have been there, Rebecca. I've seen
it.
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It helps.
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Well, it's been a long time since I had
on a coat and tie.
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You look good, Dad.
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You think so?
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The role officer goes up first. He's
with us.
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But remember, the boy doesn't figure to
be sympathetic.
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You can't let them antagonize you. You
want to say that again?
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You want to give me some sign you get
it?
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He gets it, Eugene.
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He's ready to do what's necessary.
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Baby. All I've had these last 12 years
is my word and the truth.
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If I say I killed that man... It's your
only chance to get out. There's
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been a lot of people supporting me,
Vivian.
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Raising money to pay his bills.
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People going to the bank on my being
innocent.
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What do I say to them?
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They all know this is part of the game,
Leonard.
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Me lying.
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I got to go and lie to get redemption.
That's the game.
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Dad, just get yourself out.
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Come home.
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Eleanor went to see Keith. Eugene is at
the Pearl hearing. And Rebecca...
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You never went home.
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There's more.
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Rebecca... You might believe him, but I
don't. There is nobody who's done more
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to fight the death penalty than John
Mochler.
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Bobby, there's more.
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What are you talking about?
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Keith. I know.
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Marsha discovered you in bed with
MacNown.
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She killed him.
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00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,480
I know it all.
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How can you be willing to serve a
sentence for a crime she committed?
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My God.
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00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,800
Do you think being gay is worse for your
image than being thought of as a
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murderer?
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00:22:29,980 --> 00:22:32,000
I don't know what you're talking about.
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00:22:32,670 --> 00:22:35,650
Marsha told me to keep me from going
after Allison.
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She is lying to punish me for killing
her lover. No, she's seeking to punish
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by confessing to me she's a murderer.
That really makes sense.
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00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:51,670
Keith, I'm one of your old friends.
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I am not going to love you any less
because you are gay.
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For God's sake.
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Do you know the letters I get?
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They think I'm a hero.
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00:23:05,070 --> 00:23:08,010
Good for you, they say. I would have
blasted him, too.
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00:23:09,050 --> 00:23:11,050
I'm a folk hero, Eleanor.
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And when I get out, my constituency will
still be there.
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00:23:16,130 --> 00:23:21,630
Michael Dukakis, his career died when he
reacted with dispassion at the idea of
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his wife being attacked.
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00:23:23,690 --> 00:23:25,470
Good for you, they say to me.
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00:23:26,250 --> 00:23:29,330
You shot the bastard. What man wouldn't?
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00:23:33,460 --> 00:23:36,020
Please. I'm instructing you to drop
this.
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I made my deal. I'm happy with the deal.
351
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,740
And as your client, I instruct you to
just let this be.
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00:23:48,540 --> 00:23:51,140
You will carry out my wish, Eleanor.
353
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,160
I tell inmates, use the time in here.
Don't let it use you.
354
00:24:01,530 --> 00:24:03,730
And how has Leonard Marshall used his
time?
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00:24:04,090 --> 00:24:05,550
Well, he's improved his education.
356
00:24:06,030 --> 00:24:08,430
When he first came to us, he had anger
issues.
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00:24:08,790 --> 00:24:11,010
Now he teaches the anger management
course.
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00:24:11,250 --> 00:24:15,150
A lot of the inmates and even some of
the guards, they look up to him.
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00:24:15,390 --> 00:24:18,970
I'm seeing in the file last month they
found a syringe in his cell.
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00:24:19,170 --> 00:24:20,810
I think that syringe was planted.
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00:24:21,690 --> 00:24:25,830
When a man gets to parole hearing day,
the first thing I tell him is check
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your mattress and make sure nobody
frames you by planting a knife or drugs.
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00:24:30,670 --> 00:24:34,110
If Leonard Marshall is released, does he
pose any threat?
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Not in my opinion.
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00:24:35,910 --> 00:24:36,990
How can you be sure?
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00:24:37,410 --> 00:24:41,710
Well, men his age have low recidivism
rates, especially when they have a
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network on the outside.
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00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:45,810
He's got that support from his wife and
his son.
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00:24:46,170 --> 00:24:50,810
Correct me if I'm wrong, but half the
men in prison today committed felony
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crimes while on parole.
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00:24:53,030 --> 00:24:54,030
Well... Again.
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00:24:54,430 --> 00:24:59,690
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in 1991, 13
,000 people were murdered in this
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country by criminals on parole or
probation.
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00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:05,290
Is the chairwoman introducing evidence?
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00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:09,370
Mr. Young, this is not a court of law.
The rules of evidence do not apply.
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00:25:09,650 --> 00:25:15,070
I realize that, but... Also, there's no
reason to object. No appellate court
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00:25:15,070 --> 00:25:16,710
reviews our decisions.
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00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:23,850
I don't have time for this.
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00:25:24,350 --> 00:25:26,350
I'm on a plane to Indiana within the
hour.
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00:25:26,770 --> 00:25:29,090
Things seem to be a little coincidental.
381
00:25:29,810 --> 00:25:34,010
Your most heinous clients seem to find
God and waive all their appeals.
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00:25:34,530 --> 00:25:38,010
The ones who might be innocent, you push
their cases to the end. And you think
383
00:25:38,010 --> 00:25:42,030
that's coincidental, that the evil would
be more predisposed to seek redemption?
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00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:46,230
You're deciding who lives and who dies,
John.
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00:25:47,010 --> 00:25:50,630
The ones you choose not to fight for,
you steer them to find religion.
386
00:25:51,780 --> 00:25:54,920
You're conducting some kind of mad
triage with your clients.
387
00:25:55,140 --> 00:25:57,560
Now, what's mad is that suggestion.
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00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,260
I called a lot of the families.
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00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:05,360
You influenced death row inmates to
waive appeals, to seek salvation.
390
00:26:05,620 --> 00:26:06,900
I'm not listening to this.
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00:26:07,540 --> 00:26:09,060
I used to respect you.
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00:26:12,420 --> 00:26:16,500
All this time, I thought you were this
big champion against the death penalty,
393
00:26:16,580 --> 00:26:17,960
and look at what you are.
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00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:24,650
Do you know when you file for stay of
execution with the Supreme Court, you're
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00:26:24,650 --> 00:26:27,790
lucky if one of the clerks even skims
your brief?
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00:26:28,250 --> 00:26:29,350
Know why that is?
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00:26:29,710 --> 00:26:36,150
Because every attorney for every death
row inmate files, claiming his case is
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00:26:36,150 --> 00:26:42,770
special. And eventually all of them, all
of them, even the legitimate ones, fall
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00:26:42,770 --> 00:26:43,770
on deaf ears.
400
00:26:44,430 --> 00:26:46,030
Now I'll tell you what the problem is,
Rebecca.
401
00:26:46,770 --> 00:26:49,730
Defense attorneys have no...
402
00:26:50,110 --> 00:26:51,250
credibility anymore.
403
00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:56,030
They pay attention when I call because I
don't waste their time.
404
00:26:57,670 --> 00:27:02,310
There is a reason I've gotten more stays
than any other lawyer.
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00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:08,310
So you weed out the good cases from the
bad and sacrifice people like Walter
406
00:27:08,310 --> 00:27:12,610
Dawson? I did everything I could for
Walter.
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00:27:14,770 --> 00:27:17,550
And I will be at his side tonight.
408
00:27:24,430 --> 00:27:25,430
Bye, Bobby.
409
00:27:34,370 --> 00:27:39,270
Finding out it was Leonard who did it
was almost as painful as losing Jack.
410
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:41,190
We were all friends.
411
00:27:41,550 --> 00:27:42,930
At least I thought we were.
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00:27:43,690 --> 00:27:46,290
How do you feel about granting parole to
this man?
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00:27:46,810 --> 00:27:51,950
I'm a Christian woman, so forgiving
people is something I have to try to do.
414
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,420
It took me a long time, but I did
forgive Leonard, and I pray for him.
415
00:27:58,180 --> 00:28:02,240
You've heard the testimony about the
prisoner's exemplary behavior over many
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00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,320
years? Sounds like the Leonard Marshall
I used to know.
417
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,880
Are you saying you support parole for
your husband's killer, Mrs. Horan?
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00:28:10,380 --> 00:28:15,960
I don't believe in an eye for an eye,
but I wouldn't want another family to be
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00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,480
destroyed like mine was.
420
00:28:18,420 --> 00:28:19,480
So I pray.
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00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,320
that you keep him in prison for as long
as he lives.
422
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,720
Thank you.
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00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,060
We'll take a 15 -minute break, and then
we'll hear from Mr. Marshall.
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00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:40,880
It comes down to you.
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00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:44,340
I don't think I can say, Eugene.
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00:28:46,660 --> 00:28:48,460
I cannot say I'm guilty.
427
00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:53,990
If you don't learn, you will spend the
rest of your life in prison.
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00:29:00,410 --> 00:29:07,390
I swore to my wife and son that I
wouldn't let prison make me hard or
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me.
430
00:29:09,630 --> 00:29:14,850
And if it wasn't for them, I don't know.
431
00:29:16,210 --> 00:29:19,150
It sounds like you've done better in
prison than out.
432
00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:21,519
I'm sorry?
433
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,640
Well, on the streets, you seem to have
had trouble holding a job.
434
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:28,760
And when you got fired from the garage,
you got angry and committed murder.
435
00:29:29,180 --> 00:29:32,820
Is it possible you do better in a more
structured environment?
436
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:37,560
What are your plans if you're released?
437
00:29:38,500 --> 00:29:43,500
After what I've been through here, I'd
like to find a way to
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00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:46,740
help kids stay out of trouble.
439
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:50,830
Maybe become a counselor or... or
teacher, or something.
440
00:29:52,050 --> 00:29:57,530
At trial, you denied murdering Jack
Horan, is that correct?
441
00:29:58,730 --> 00:30:03,270
Yes. And you continue to deny your guilt
throughout the appellate process?
442
00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:05,490
Yes.
443
00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:08,990
Do you now accept responsibility for
your crime?
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00:30:11,610 --> 00:30:14,190
Mr. Marshall, did you not hear my
question?
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00:30:18,670 --> 00:30:19,730
I heard the question.
446
00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:24,430
Sir, Mrs. Horan is sitting right there.
447
00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:28,070
She's been waiting 12 years for you to
finally tell the truth.
448
00:30:28,830 --> 00:30:30,210
Is that going to happen today?
449
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:45,070
Mrs. Horan.
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00:30:47,370 --> 00:30:50,110
I know you suffered so much.
451
00:30:53,450 --> 00:30:54,690
And I'm sorry.
452
00:31:02,690 --> 00:31:06,410
But I did not kill your husband.
453
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:12,610
Mr. Marshall.
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00:31:15,210 --> 00:31:19,050
Taking responsibility means admitting
the crime.
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00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:22,250
Even if it's not the truth.
456
00:31:22,650 --> 00:31:28,930
Leonard. Mr. Marshall, I will remind
you, sir, accountability is a condition
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00:31:28,930 --> 00:31:30,070
for parole.
458
00:31:30,270 --> 00:31:34,810
I didn't kill anybody. Leonard, don't.
You're telling me to get out of here.
459
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:39,390
I got to show you I'm a good man.
460
00:31:40,270 --> 00:31:43,050
And the only way to do that is to lie.
461
00:31:44,110 --> 00:31:45,270
And say I'm a killer.
462
00:31:46,010 --> 00:31:47,730
Well, I am not a killer.
463
00:31:48,450 --> 00:31:50,510
I am not a killer.
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00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:53,370
Are you done?
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00:31:53,570 --> 00:31:54,850
I am not done.
466
00:31:55,470 --> 00:32:01,150
You see, you have to make me say I
killed him.
467
00:32:01,530 --> 00:32:08,150
Because otherwise, you have to face the
fact that you've got an innocent
468
00:32:08,150 --> 00:32:09,150
man.
469
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,680
sitting in jail for 12 years for
something he didn't do.
470
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,220
You just want to pretend you only got
guilty people in prison.
471
00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:23,000
Mr. Marshall, I warn you. You warn me
what?
472
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,220
That I'm not going to get parole?
473
00:32:25,780 --> 00:32:28,280
I was never going to get parole.
474
00:32:30,140 --> 00:32:31,420
Not from you.
475
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,940
You know, it's a joke.
476
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,180
A damn joke.
477
00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:46,280
Now I'm done.
478
00:32:56,980 --> 00:33:01,080
Rule 48 says I can make an oral motion
for an emergency stay.
479
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:04,000
Wait a second. Your client wants to be
executed.
480
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,120
Because he was brainwashed by his
lawyer.
481
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,920
Are you serious?
482
00:33:09,260 --> 00:33:11,240
Your Honor, I really believe it's true.
483
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:14,960
I've been a friend of John Mockler's for
a long... If John Mockler didn't want
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00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,300
to help somebody, why wouldn't he just
decline to take the case?
485
00:33:18,660 --> 00:33:23,900
Are you suggesting he took on clients
for the purpose of securing their
486
00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:24,900
executions?
487
00:33:26,140 --> 00:33:27,140
Possibly, yes.
488
00:33:28,380 --> 00:33:29,380
Why?
489
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,830
Well... He has cases he once heard at
the appellate level at the Supreme
490
00:33:34,910 --> 00:33:38,770
Because those courts are inundated with
so many futile, baseless appeals, a lot
491
00:33:38,770 --> 00:33:41,010
of deserving cases get thrown out with
the bathwater.
492
00:33:41,330 --> 00:33:44,370
So I think he takes cases to weed them.
493
00:33:44,590 --> 00:33:48,290
If there's anything remotely redeeming
about a client, or there's police
494
00:33:48,290 --> 00:33:51,770
misconduct, or the guy could possibly be
innocent, he goes to the mat.
495
00:33:52,130 --> 00:33:56,790
For the scum balls, they all find God
and waive final appeals.
496
00:33:57,450 --> 00:34:01,490
He is deciding who's entitled to a
defense and who's not.
497
00:34:03,470 --> 00:34:07,710
On the record before me, Mr. Mockler has
committed no malpractice.
498
00:34:08,469 --> 00:34:13,550
And there is no evidence of any mental
defect on the part of Walter Dawson.
499
00:34:14,330 --> 00:34:18,969
Can you stay the execution for a week to
at least take a look?
500
00:34:22,010 --> 00:34:23,010
No.
501
00:34:24,469 --> 00:34:25,469
But I...
502
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:27,380
I salute your innovation.
503
00:34:27,820 --> 00:34:29,699
This is a new one.
504
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,159
Is John Mockler behind this?
505
00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:37,360
No, he isn't.
506
00:34:41,260 --> 00:34:45,360
Declare him incompetent? It's all I can
think of. I mean, you should have seen
507
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:50,320
him, Jimmy. He sounded almost deranged.
But he's still legally competent.
508
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,980
Eleanor, we're at a dead end.
509
00:34:54,510 --> 00:34:56,110
There's nothing more we can do.
510
00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:06,850
So you went to see Keith and told him
what I said to you.
511
00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:08,250
Why don't you sue me?
512
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:12,090
Eleanor, if you go any further with
this, I will very much sue you.
513
00:35:12,350 --> 00:35:13,350
Count on that.
514
00:35:14,050 --> 00:35:18,350
Marsha, sooner or later, you're going to
make a mistake.
515
00:35:20,650 --> 00:35:21,650
Well, for now.
516
00:35:22,890 --> 00:35:24,710
You'll have to wait until that happens.
517
00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:26,490
I will.
518
00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:28,430
You can count on that.
519
00:35:33,470 --> 00:35:36,690
The fact is, parole is a political
process.
520
00:35:37,050 --> 00:35:40,790
A man convicted of murder wants to be
released. If you deny that request,
521
00:35:41,050 --> 00:35:42,029
nothing happens.
522
00:35:42,030 --> 00:35:45,570
But if you grant it, there's always a
chance he might kill again.
523
00:35:46,190 --> 00:35:47,510
Nobody needs that pressure.
524
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:49,350
Nobody wants that guilt.
525
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:53,680
Nobody's looking for a public scandal,
so yes, you could give my client a fair
526
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,920
hearing, but bottom line, what's in it
for you?
527
00:35:56,260 --> 00:35:59,180
Are you saying we're corrupt, Mr. Young?
528
00:35:59,580 --> 00:36:05,220
I'm saying that what we've forgotten
somehow is that this is a man, a man who
529
00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:09,400
has fought to better himself, a man who
has done his time with grace and
530
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,300
dignity, a man who deserves to be
released, but because there is no
531
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,620
upside, you won't take the time to
figure that out.
532
00:36:17,180 --> 00:36:20,640
Now, I admit that a lot of these inmates
probably should be rejected, but what
533
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,180
about the few who shouldn't be?
534
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,840
Yes, Leonard Marshall claims to be
innocent.
535
00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:30,940
And what if he actually is? With new
technology, with the use of DNA, we know
536
00:36:30,940 --> 00:36:34,180
for a fact that innocent people do get
convicted.
537
00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:37,780
This is not a forum to retry your
client's guilt or innocence.
538
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,320
My client wants to go home.
539
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,920
He could have lied.
540
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,260
He could have come in here and said
exactly what you wanted to hear.
541
00:36:47,620 --> 00:36:49,220
But instead, he risked everything.
542
00:36:49,860 --> 00:36:55,380
The chance to go home with his wife and
son because he wouldn't give away the
543
00:36:55,380 --> 00:37:01,760
only thing that kept his family sane for
the last 12 years, the fact that he
544
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,160
is innocent.
545
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,000
This may not be the form to prove it,
but don't tell me it's not relevant.
546
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:15,050
This is Leonard Marshall's family.
547
00:37:16,030 --> 00:37:20,490
They were there the day he was taken
away, and they are here now asking you
548
00:37:20,490 --> 00:37:21,490
please give him back.
549
00:37:21,810 --> 00:37:22,890
Take this chance.
550
00:37:24,070 --> 00:37:27,470
Prove that you're motivated by justice,
not politics.
551
00:37:27,850 --> 00:37:30,890
Prove that you care about people, not
publicity.
552
00:37:31,210 --> 00:37:35,090
Prove that this board can be feared, but
still fair.
553
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:38,130
That's what Leonard Marshall wants.
554
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,280
It's what he deserves.
555
00:37:57,340 --> 00:37:58,340
Thank you.
556
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Viv.
557
00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:10,180
James, I, um... I know you're very angry
with me right now,
558
00:38:10,260 --> 00:38:11,260
and...
559
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,920
But I, uh, I just...
560
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:25,240
We're
561
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:26,240
ready.
562
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,120
Six minutes.
563
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,800
For the purposes of this hearing and our
decision...
564
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,640
We must presume the defendant to be
guilty as convicted.
565
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:51,620
That said, we're faced today with a man
who committed murder,
566
00:38:51,860 --> 00:38:56,840
who still refuses to accept
responsibility for his crime.
567
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:03,360
I have never heard of any parole board
granting release under such a
568
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,360
circumstance.
569
00:39:09,130 --> 00:39:10,670
So today would be a first.
570
00:39:13,090 --> 00:39:19,170
By majority vote, Mr. Leonard Marshall's
petition for release
571
00:39:19,170 --> 00:39:21,330
is granted.
572
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:26,710
We are adjourned.
573
00:39:40,990 --> 00:39:42,970
No? Pretty much.
574
00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:54,930
Oh, my God.
575
00:40:37,259 --> 00:40:38,259
Still here?
576
00:40:39,660 --> 00:40:40,960
Yeah, I didn't feel like going home.
577
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:46,120
Has it happened yet?
578
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,760
Any minute, I guess I have it on.
579
00:40:54,510 --> 00:40:55,510
You did all you could.
580
00:40:57,170 --> 00:40:58,410
There it is.
581
00:40:58,650 --> 00:41:01,610
The sentence of death was carried out
upon Walter Dawson.
582
00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:04,750
The procedure was initiated at 12 .09.
583
00:41:05,390 --> 00:41:07,450
Death was pronounced at 12 .23.
584
00:41:08,090 --> 00:41:13,310
His final words were to ask forgiveness
from the victim's family and from God.
585
00:41:14,810 --> 00:41:15,810
That's all.
586
00:41:15,890 --> 00:41:16,890
Thank you.
587
00:41:17,810 --> 00:41:22,710
That was Warden John Couser, and now we
are switching to Attorney John Mochler.
588
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:30,140
Surely, as Walter Dawson committed an
act of murder, so did our federal
589
00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:31,240
government this night.
590
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,580
Our country charges all over the world
declaring itself a champion of human
591
00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:42,600
rights. I ask you, from where do we
derive our moral integrity?
592
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:50,120
Learn at hand, you know. He said,
liberty lies in our hearts.
593
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:53,580
And once it dies there,
594
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,680
No constitution can save it.
595
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:03,160
I might suggest the same would be true
for humanity.
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