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Previously on The Practice.
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I got a lewd and lascivious schedule for
trial this morning, but Judge Hilla,
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she's ordered me to get co -counsel.
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Why? Something about how I never want a
trial. Bobby, it's bad for us to even be
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associated with Harlan Bassett. He's a
nice guy. Yeah, and the world's worst
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attorney. I do not want to be in court
with that man.
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If I have you guys on board as co
-counsel, I know I could chip the
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up. Every time I sign up with you, I end
up getting embarrassed.
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That's not going to happen this time.
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What's this case and what's our
involvement? Product liability against a
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company that injured a little girl,
Harlan. This guy ponies you up every
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told him I'd join him for a settlement
conference. That's all it will be.
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Gentlemen, come right in.
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That's John Raverson. You know him? The
man is one of the top three civil
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litigators in Boston.
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Our client has directed us not to
settle. We just beat the EPA for over
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million on injuries that weren't even as
bad.
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They beat the EPA, Mr. Bassett. Now,
while I salute your last -minute
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in signing them up for shock value, we
know who opposing counsel really is.
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Eugene, this is Christine and Annie
Mullen, our clients.
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Hello. That drug did this to her?
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Every bit of it.
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Six months ago, she was completely
healthy.
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Annie, you up for a fight?
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Yes. You tough enough to take on the
drug company?
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I'll be as tough as I need to be.
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The big hurdle is causation, proving the
drug caused Annie's liver failure.
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And do we have to prove it beyond a
reasonable doubt?
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No. Well, that's the criminal standard.
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The burden here is the preponderance of
the evidence.
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Where is Harlan?
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He should be right in.
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Mr. and Mrs. Mullen, we don't think
we'll win.
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Our goal here, if we can do well enough,
that we might win.
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Then we should be able to settle because
Hayden Laboratories can't risk losing.
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Does that make sense?
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Yeah, I think so.
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Let me check on Harland.
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Harland, the Mullins are waiting.
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Could you take the meeting, Eugene?
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Take the meeting? It's a pre -trial.
They want to talk to you. I'm just...
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What's wrong?
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I'm having a little anxiety.
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It's nothing. Had it before, it goes
away.
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What goes away? What exactly are you
feeling?
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My breathing gets a little hard.
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Just need a few minutes.
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So, should I tell them to wait?
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No.
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I'm okay.
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Herman?
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Okay.
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Can't get there.
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I want to do one more test, but from
everything I can see, it was just an
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anxiety attack. Your heart looks fine.
Thank God.
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We can keep you overnight, or you can
leave. No, I gotta leave. I'm in trial
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six hours.
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Harland, I think we can get a
continuance. I wouldn't be so sure,
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judge said the last one was final.
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But this is medical. You had a near
heart attack.
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That's the problem.
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Could I have a second?
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Absolutely. I'll check back.
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I sort of faked a heart attack.
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What do you mean you sort of faked a
heart attack?
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He wasn't going to give me any more
time, so I grabbed my chest and I said I
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to go to my doctor.
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He says if this happens again, then
somebody else is going to have to try it
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because the case is going forward no
matter what.
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You're the only one who can try this
case. We don't know it well enough.
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Which is why I ought to be checking out
tonight.
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Hand me my pants, would you?
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So you're going forward?
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He says he's ready.
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Exhibits? They've been delivered to the
courthouse.
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Do you guys have any chance? That is an
encouragement, Eleanor. The first chance
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you get to settle.
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Don't worry.
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Are we ready?
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We're ready.
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All right.
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Annie Mullen came to me with a sinus
infection.
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I first treated it with another
antibiotic.
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When that didn't work, I prescribed
Reflexin.
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Reflexin. This is also an antibiotic?
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That's correct.
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And what happened?
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After taking the drug, she almost
immediately went into acute liver
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ultimately resulting in two transplants.
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In your medical opinion, ma 'am, did
Reflexin cause this liver failure?
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I cannot state it to a medical
certainty.
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But I can think of no cause other than
the reflexin.
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Objection. Doctor, did you know that
reflexin was dangerous?
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Objection. No foundation.
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Sustained.
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What were your expectations regarding
the safety of this antibiotic, Doctor?
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I was aware that it hadn't been tested
on children. But neither are about 80 %
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of the drugs on the market today.
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Obviously, I didn't consider it to be
dangerous.
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If I did, I wouldn't have prescribed it.
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But this is an adult drug.
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Yes, but we have to prescribe adult
drugs to children because the
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companies test so few of them on kids.
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And to your knowledge, do many
pediatricians prescribe adult drugs to
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We all do, routinely.
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Doctor, would you tell the court how you
first learned about reflexin? The same
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way I hear about all new drugs.
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The company sends out a rep. He's called
a detail person to promote the product.
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Did this detail person say anything
about the safety of Reflexum? He
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it to me as very safe.
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Did he warn you about giving it to kids?
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No, he did not.
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Doctor, you were sued by the Mullins and
you settled out of court, did you not?
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On the advice of my lawyer, I settled
the claim, yes.
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Now, as part of that settlement
agreement, you agreed to assist the
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pursuing her claims against other
parties.
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Yes. But I only agreed to tell the
truth, which is what I've done here.
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The literature that you received from my
client's detailed person included
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all labeling information, did it not,
Doctor?
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Yes. And I show you a copy of that
information now marked and identified as
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Exhibit A. Could you read the
highlighted section?
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Not proven safe and effective for
children under 16 years of age.
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And yet you prescribed it to a 13 -year
-old girl?
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It's done all the time.
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Thank you, Doctor.
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Mr. Bassett, redirect.
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Can you think of anything else?
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No. You got what you can from her.
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And you don't want to get Raverson
another whack across.
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Right.
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Tell the judge you have nothing further.
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Nothing further from this witness, Your
Honor.
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Looking at the biopsy on her liver, I
concluded to a reasonable degree of
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medical certainty that drug toxicity was
the cause for the failure.
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Do you know which drug caused this
toxicity?
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It had to be the reflexin.
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Two weeks after she took it, she needed
an emergency transplant.
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She had no medical history that made her
susceptible, and I found no other
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factors that would have contributed to
the failure.
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Okay, doctor.
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Can you tell us why the reflexin would
have caused her liver to fail?
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All drugs are metabolized through either
the liver or the kidneys, and sometimes
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the drug can simply overwhelm the liver.
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Can it attack children in particular?
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Children are especially vulnerable.
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They have immature livers.
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And for a number of reasons, they cannot
be treated simply as small adults.
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That's why this drug should have been
tested on children.
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Was it?
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No.
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Are you aware of any research or data
that suggests reflexin causes liver
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failure? Hayden's own data indicated
abnormal levels of liver activity.
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That's from their own study. Now, in
this data that you refer to, what
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of the participants had an elevated
liver function?
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I believe it was 2%. 2 %?
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Are there other drugs on the market that
cause similar levels of elevated liver
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activity? Yes.
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A few? Many?
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Many. Do you know how many people would
die if we took them off the market?
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Objection. Speculative.
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Sustained. Doctor, you spoke about
children being especially vulnerable.
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Isn't it true that children's livers are
typically more resilient than adults?
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Typically, yes, but not always.
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Thank you, Doctor.
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It was a good start.
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Solid. It was?
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It seemed like the doctors admitted they
weren't sure.
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Well, we knew they'd have to.
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That's what we talked about last night.
Proof is tough.
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But Harlan did a good job.
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Why is he breathing into that bag?
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It works.
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I do it all the time. You get more
oxygen that way.
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So, what's next?
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Annie's next.
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You ready, Annie?
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You're going to have to be brave up
there.
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I'm ready.
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You're going to do great.
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While she's testifying, I do not want
you to move.
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Not at all.
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Not at all.
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She's our case, Harlan.
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Now, if they're going to budge on
settling Annie's testimony, we'll have
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it. We need every juror's eyes on her.
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Okay.
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We're almost there, aren't we?
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We haven't even finished putting in our
case.
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After that, they put on a defense.
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Right.
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Let's go.
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I threw up a lot, but I thought it was a
stomach flu.
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Then I was on the bus to school, and I
passed out.
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What happened?
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They said my liver stopped working, and
I needed another one.
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And then?
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Then I got really sick for a few weeks.
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My eyes and skin turned yellow, and I
lost all this weight.
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Then they found a new liver.
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So you got a transplant?
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Yeah.
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But it didn't work.
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Tell us how it didn't work.
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My body started to reject the
replacement liver.
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I got really sick.
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It took a long time to fight another
one.
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Longer than the first one?
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Yes.
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I wasn't as high on the list anymore
because they thought that my body would
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reject the next liver too.
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Is everything going to be okay now?
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I don't know.
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My body's still having some problems.
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They have me on these anti -rejection
pills that I have to take every day for
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the rest of my life.
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That makes me more likely to get stuff
like infections and cancer.
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Annie, what if you need a third
transplant?
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I probably wouldn't get it.
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I'm too far down the list.
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Thank you, Annie.
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I'm very sorry about your illness.
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Annie, I know that everybody in this
room wishes you a complete recovery.
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Thank you.
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I'm going to just ask you a few
questions. If at any time you want to
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break, I'm sure we can do that.
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Okay?
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Okay.
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When the doctors were diagnosing you,
Did they
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ask whether you had taken any other
drugs or taken too many pain relievers?
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I think so.
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Yeah. Do you remember what your answer
was?
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I told them that I hadn't, except for
the other antibiotics.
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Okay. You know, they were asking about
other possible reasons your liver
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Yes.
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You also told them you hadn't drunk
alcohol, right?
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Yeah. Now, Annie.
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Remember a sleepover at your friend
Robin Cohen's house a few weeks before
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fell ill?
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I think so.
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If we brought Robin here and asked
whether you and the other girls drank
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her father's liquor cabinet, what would
you say?
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I hardly had anything.
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So you had some.
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Yes.
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You didn't tell that to the doctors,
though, did you?
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No.
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Are there any other things you didn't
tell the doctors?
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No.
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Okay.
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Prior to your taking Reflexin, you'd
taken other antibiotics, right?
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Yes. And you'd had a flu a few weeks
before this?
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Yes. Did you take any cough medicine?
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Yes. Pain relievers?
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Yes.
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Okay, Annie. That's actually all I have.
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And again, let me extend my wishes that
you have a complete and healthy
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recovery.
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Thank you.
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Annie, how much alcohol have you had in
your life?
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I've had like two sips of vodka.
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That's it.
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I hated it.
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And did you tell the truth to the
doctors for all the other questions they
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you? Yes.
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Thank you, Annie.
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Eugene's going to dinner with the
defense lawyer.
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They've now seen our case.
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If we're going to get an offer, this
would be the time.
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It's a good sign that he's willing to
have dinner, right?
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We hope.
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I'm sorry.
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Sorry?
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Why, sweetheart?
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For not telling you about that
sleepover?
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And the alcohol?
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Hey, you did great up there.
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That was just a cheap trick. It'll
backfire. You watch.
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The doctor said, John, toxicity to the
liver causes failure. He ruled out
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everything but reflexin.
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I thought I crossed him, okay?
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But the bottom line is, it's in the
record.
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Plus, we have a very sympathetic little
girl.
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You're preaching to the choir.
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I've been trying to convince Hayden to
offer something.
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Trust me, I don't like going up against
little girls.
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So what gives?
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I think they're angry.
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Your client?
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The pediatrician dropped the ball here,
Eugene. I'm not saying doctors don't
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prescribe off -label. I know they do.
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But she should have at least monitored
the girl.
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Now, for her to settle out with a
promise to testify against the drug
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She's not the first doctor to do that.
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Exactly. Which is why they're so angry.
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Give me something.
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Come on, admit it.
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Harlan Bassett has done better than you
thought.
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If it were up to me.
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But it isn't.
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Okay.
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We'll just keep going.
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Their first witness is the hepatologist.
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Dr. Peter Kendall.
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Reflexin is not the most likely cause of
Miss Mullen's liver damage.
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Can you be sure of that, Dr. Cameron?
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Viral infections are the most common
cause of liver failure in children.
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This girl was coming off a stomach flu,
and that's probably the very infection
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that led to her liver injury.
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Can you state this to a medical
certainty, Doctor? Not a certainty.
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You have to understand that the cause of
most cases of liver failure in children
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is unknown.
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So in a majority of cases...
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There's no cause found.
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That's correct, but here we know she had
a viral infection, which we can isolate
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as the most likely culprit.
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Doctor, isn't it true that the vast
majority of stomach flus do not cause
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failure? Neither do most drugs.
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But the speed at which Annie's liver
failed is more consistent with drug
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toxicity, isn't it? In general, yes.
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You can't rule out reflexin as cause of
Annie's injuries, can you?
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Well, the question is not... You can't
rule it out, can you?
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No.
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And, Doctor, how many times have you
testified for drug companies?
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I can't be sure.
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More than 50? Yes.
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More than 100?
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Probably. And in all these appearances,
have you ever testified for a plaintiff?
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No, I haven't.
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I'll take him to the witness room.
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Am I crazy? Or is Harlan... He was good
just then.
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He was.
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Eugene, we've put in our case, we just
had their first witness, and we're in
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this. Nobody's laughing in there.
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Yeah, but now come their big guns.
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I know.
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But nobody's laughing.
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For a drug to be approved in the United
States, it needs to go through an
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incredible testing process.
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When you say incredible, I mean hundreds
of millions of dollars.
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First comes testing on a cellular level,
then animals.
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The last step is clinical trials on
humans.
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Then what?
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Then the company turns over its clinical
data to the FDA medical officers.
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They review the data. Then they convene
an advisory panel of outside independent
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specialists who give an opinion, which
the FDA may or may not follow.
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What does it mean to have approval from
the FDA?
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It's the gold standard.
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Meaning? The United States has the
safest, most rigorous pharmaceutical
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process in the world. Many, many drugs
are available overseas that are
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prohibited here for safety reasons.
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In fact, a number of states limit the
liability of drug manufacturers from
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if their product is FDA approved.
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Objection. Sustained.
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Jury will disregard.
355
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From your review of the data.
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Did Hayden Laboratories comply with
testing requirements for Reflexin?
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Absolutely. Thank you, Doctor.
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In the last four years, 11 different
drugs have been pulled off the market
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the FDA approved them. Isn't that
correct?
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00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:08,360
Yes. Direct.
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Painkiller linked to liver failure? That
was one of them.
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Objection. This trial's about reflexin.
They opened the door, Your Honor. This
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witness testified that the FDA's
approval was the gold standard.
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Objection overruled. Elotronex,
irritable bowel syndrome, suspected
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five deaths.
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00:21:27,970 --> 00:21:32,610
Yes. Propulsed, heartburn, suspected in
over 300 deaths.
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Yes. Seldane, Resolute, the list goes
on. All approved by the FDA, all pulled
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because of safety concerns. The fact
that these drugs were withdrawn shows
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the system works, that the FDA
investigators are doing their job.
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Think the 20 million Americans who took
those drugs believe the system works?
371
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Objection. Sustained. The fact that the
FDA approved Reflexin doesn't establish
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it's safe, does it, Doctor?
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There are never any guarantees.
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I am extremely proud of Reflexin. It
kills bacterial infections that can lead
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pneumonia and meningitis.
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It saves lives every single day.
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Are you satisfied, sir, that it's safe?
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Absolutely. When used as directed.
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00:22:28,250 --> 00:22:33,050
Now, here it was not used as directed.
It is not intended for children.
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00:22:33,550 --> 00:22:38,430
Now, I don't believe that reflexin
caused Annie Mullen's injuries.
381
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:41,410
Nevertheless, it should never have been
prescribed.
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That's why our label is clear. Not
proven safe for children under 16.
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What else can we do?
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We cannot be held responsible for every
doctor who ignores our warnings.
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Thank you, Mr. Yates.
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00:23:01,490 --> 00:23:02,490
Eugene.
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00:23:05,170 --> 00:23:06,690
Can you take this one?
388
00:23:06,990 --> 00:23:07,990
What?
389
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,300
Look, Harland, I don't think we should
let what that witness just said hang
390
00:23:15,300 --> 00:23:16,019
the jury.
391
00:23:16,020 --> 00:23:19,020
The sooner we defuse it, the better.
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00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,960
The FDA advisory committee that approved
your drug was comprised of 12 doctors,
393
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,760
correct? Yes. And seven of them had
financial ties to your company, didn't
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We fund research, Mr.
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Bassett. I mean, if that qualifies as
financial ties, then technically you may
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be correct.
397
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,380
Fact is, the drug industry is the major
source of funding.
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For doctors who study the safety and
efficacy of drugs, isn't that right, Mr.
399
00:23:57,460 --> 00:24:01,320
Yates? I believe so. And if a doctor's
studies don't come out like you want,
400
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,540
he's not going to get a grant next time
around for his research, is he?
401
00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:10,760
That's not true. As part of their
compensation, you offer these doctors
402
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,660
options in Hayden Labs, don't you?
403
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,620
Sometimes. You make it in their
financial interest to make favorable
404
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,240
These are doctors that you're talking
about.
405
00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:22,100
They are going to do what's right.
406
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,320
They're doctors.
407
00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:25,100
They're going to do what's right.
408
00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:26,620
Objection. Argumentative.
409
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,040
Sustained. What's the average review
time for FDA approval?
410
00:24:31,580 --> 00:24:32,660
A little over a year.
411
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:38,160
How long did the FDA review the
application for reflexin? We were
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00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,139
expedited review.
413
00:24:39,140 --> 00:24:40,140
How long?
414
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Six months.
415
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,740
Do you think the FDA might have caught
the problems with reflexin if they took
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00:24:45,740 --> 00:24:46,980
the normal review time?
417
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,220
There were no problems to catch.
418
00:24:49,540 --> 00:24:50,540
Really?
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00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,480
No problems to catch.
420
00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:02,900
What is an adverse drug report?
421
00:25:03,340 --> 00:25:08,260
It's a form filled out by a doctor when
a patient suffers an unexpected reaction
422
00:25:08,260 --> 00:25:14,240
that might, and I stress might, be
related to a prescription drug. I'm
423
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:20,660
six adverse drug reports, which list
reflexin as primary suspect in liver
424
00:25:20,660 --> 00:25:23,360
damage. Four involve children.
425
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,360
You are talking six reports.
426
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Out of two million prescriptions.
427
00:25:27,910 --> 00:25:32,570
But doctors aren't required to file
these reports, are they, Mr. Yates? Some
428
00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:37,970
experts estimate six reports translates
to 600 actual complications.
429
00:25:38,490 --> 00:25:39,249
I disagree.
430
00:25:39,250 --> 00:25:44,570
You are aware that doctors are
prescribing Reflexin to kids, aren't
431
00:25:44,570 --> 00:25:47,390
can do is to make the appropriate
warning.
432
00:25:47,650 --> 00:25:51,690
We can't control what doctors do. Yes or
no?
433
00:25:52,460 --> 00:25:55,380
You know doctors are prescribing it to
kids.
434
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:02,660
Yes. Hayden Labs made $265 million on
Reflexin last year, didn't they?
435
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,600
Objection. Overruled.
436
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,760
$265 million.
437
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,440
How much of that came from off -label
use by children?
438
00:26:12,020 --> 00:26:13,580
Some. Some.
439
00:26:14,620 --> 00:26:17,700
Children are good business, aren't they,
Mr. Yates?
440
00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:18,940
Objection.
441
00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:22,490
Overruled. You don't test children
because you don't want to know what
442
00:26:22,490 --> 00:26:27,170
find. That is untrue. Why do you only
test adults when you know your drug is
443
00:26:27,170 --> 00:26:28,170
going to kids?
444
00:26:33,450 --> 00:26:40,370
We limited our research and market to
adults because the product is intended
445
00:26:40,370 --> 00:26:44,530
adults. Again, we cannot control what
the doctors do.
446
00:26:45,050 --> 00:26:50,470
But when doctors prescribe Reflexin to
kids, you don't issue a stronger
447
00:26:50,590 --> 00:26:55,530
You don't do anything about it. You just
take the money.
448
00:26:55,910 --> 00:26:57,450
Objection! Sustained.
449
00:26:57,790 --> 00:27:01,250
Truthfully, you have researched
children, haven't you?
450
00:27:02,990 --> 00:27:04,930
This is your research.
451
00:27:05,650 --> 00:27:09,610
Six isolated cases is not data, Mr.
Baffet.
452
00:27:12,330 --> 00:27:14,010
How about seven?
453
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,720
You did great.
454
00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:26,540
We did great.
455
00:27:26,740 --> 00:27:27,740
So now what?
456
00:27:27,940 --> 00:27:28,940
Closing arguments.
457
00:27:29,140 --> 00:27:32,820
A good close, and we have a chance. I
haven't written it yet. You'll do it
458
00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:33,820
tonight.
459
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,240
Can we get together?
460
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,440
We'll be right out.
461
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:52,180
Here comes the offer.
462
00:27:52,510 --> 00:27:54,370
Oh, my God. What? All right, listen.
463
00:27:54,970 --> 00:27:56,190
We need to pick a number.
464
00:27:56,830 --> 00:27:58,550
I need to go out there with a number.
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00:27:59,370 --> 00:28:01,370
600. They won't pay 600.
466
00:28:02,090 --> 00:28:06,390
Two. Harlan, you don't have to cave that
much. How do you go from six to two?
467
00:28:06,810 --> 00:28:07,810
I'm confused.
468
00:28:08,110 --> 00:28:13,630
Look, liability is still shaky. Last
night, the number was zero. Right now, I
469
00:28:13,630 --> 00:28:16,090
think 400 ,000 is possible.
470
00:28:31,870 --> 00:28:34,890
225. That was a half a million dollar
cross if I ever heard one.
471
00:28:35,730 --> 00:28:38,650
225 was as high as he authorized me. I'm
not playing poker here.
472
00:28:39,970 --> 00:28:43,710
I could convince him to throw in your
fees. You took it on a contingency.
473
00:28:43,710 --> 00:28:44,710
another 60 or so.
474
00:28:45,470 --> 00:28:46,590
Let's say goodbye to this at three.
475
00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:50,870
Four. And we'll sign off.
476
00:28:51,070 --> 00:28:52,710
Can't do it, Eugene. Three's the number.
477
00:28:54,030 --> 00:28:55,030
No.
478
00:28:57,230 --> 00:28:58,230
Okay.
479
00:28:59,630 --> 00:29:00,930
We get to do this one more day.
480
00:29:06,430 --> 00:29:08,910
We just turned down $300 ,000.
481
00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:22,870
Lucy?
482
00:29:26,910 --> 00:29:27,910
Guys.
483
00:29:32,969 --> 00:29:35,030
Guys. What time is it? 7 .30.
484
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:36,890
How late were you up?
485
00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:41,190
We just laid down to take a break at 4
or so. Do we have any coffee?
486
00:29:41,550 --> 00:29:42,529
I'll make some.
487
00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:43,530
I need new clothes.
488
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:46,750
I can't close in this. You got plenty of
time. It's early.
489
00:29:47,170 --> 00:29:48,170
What are you doing?
490
00:29:48,430 --> 00:29:51,250
Nine. Okay, so you don't have plenty of
time.
491
00:29:51,450 --> 00:29:52,630
I gotta go home and change.
492
00:29:53,630 --> 00:29:54,790
I'll meet you guys there.
493
00:29:57,150 --> 00:29:58,190
They offered three.
494
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,940
And you turned it down?
495
00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:03,880
I know we can get another hundred if he
closes well.
496
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,300
Or it could go back to zero.
497
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,880
Have you ever heard Harlan Bassett
close?
498
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,200
It isn't pretty.
499
00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:11,240
He's different this trial, Bobby.
500
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,020
He's in some kind of zone.
501
00:30:13,340 --> 00:30:14,279
In a zone?
502
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,240
When have you ever, ever known him not
to screw things up?
503
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:20,680
If you give him enough time.
504
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,780
We all know to warn our kids about the
kind of drugs you buy on the street
505
00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:43,780
corner.
506
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,460
We know to steer them away from shady
dealers and back alleys.
507
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:55,240
But what we don't know is that they are
twice as likely to die from the drugs in
508
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,420
our own medicine cabinets.
509
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,140
James and Christine Mullen told their
daughter to take her medicine because it
510
00:31:02,140 --> 00:31:03,360
would make her feel better.
511
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,720
Look at her.
512
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,660
A simple antibiotic.
513
00:31:08,970 --> 00:31:13,490
Two weeks later, she lost her liver and
her opportunity for a normal life.
514
00:31:14,530 --> 00:31:19,350
The defense would have you believe that
her doctor bears all responsibility, but
515
00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:21,310
this ignores one critical fact.
516
00:31:22,510 --> 00:31:28,190
Hayden Labs knew that once reflexin was
approved for adults,
517
00:31:28,530 --> 00:31:30,990
it would make its way to children.
518
00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:37,490
Eighty percent of the drugs on the
market today are not adequately tested
519
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:38,490
kids.
520
00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:40,820
Eighty percent.
521
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,360
And it's common practice for doctors to
prescribe these medications to children.
522
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,420
Now, knowing this, what does Hayden Labs
do?
523
00:31:50,660 --> 00:31:55,640
They slip in the most innocuous warning
they can, while at the same time
524
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,220
marketing the drug to pediatricians.
525
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:04,960
But saying not proven safe or effective
is not the same
526
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,140
as warning it could be dangerous.
527
00:32:09,610 --> 00:32:11,370
And they knew it.
528
00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:18,130
It's hard to wage a battle against a big
pharmaceutical company.
529
00:32:18,770 --> 00:32:21,810
This is a $100 billion industry.
530
00:32:22,350 --> 00:32:26,050
I'm sorry, Your Honor. I'm loath to
object during a closing.
531
00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:28,590
But this is neither relevant... It is
relevant.
532
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:33,350
The revenues they generate are relevant
to the extent that they control
533
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:36,510
research. I'll give you a short leash,
Mr. Bassett.
534
00:32:36,890 --> 00:32:38,250
But keep it about the case.
535
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,320
The drug companies.
536
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,740
They fund the research.
537
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,960
They pay many doctors who are in charge
of testing whether a drug is safe. And
538
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,580
some drugs get to the market that are
unsafe.
539
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:59,620
In the last four years alone, 20 million
Americans took drugs that were pulled
540
00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:02,860
off the market because of safety
reasons.
541
00:33:04,020 --> 00:33:05,620
20 million.
542
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,900
And I submit.
543
00:33:08,780 --> 00:33:13,820
that when reflexin is finally tested on
kids, it too will probably be pulled.
544
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,940
But Hayden Labs, they're not going to
test it, ladies and gentlemen. Not if
545
00:33:18,940 --> 00:33:19,940
can help it.
546
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,860
The problem with test results is you're
stuck with them.
547
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:30,380
And they don't want any test proving
what Annie Mullen already knows, that
548
00:33:30,380 --> 00:33:33,500
drug can cause liver failure.
549
00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:37,260
It caused hers.
550
00:33:38,730 --> 00:33:44,310
They don't care, ladies and gentlemen.
They don't give a damn. And the FDA?
551
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:51,250
They rely on clinical and advisory
panels that are bankrolled by these
552
00:33:53,170 --> 00:33:56,610
In the end, it's not about safety.
553
00:33:57,670 --> 00:33:59,050
It's not about compassion.
554
00:34:00,190 --> 00:34:02,690
It's not about little girls like Annie.
555
00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:05,930
It's about money.
556
00:34:06,990 --> 00:34:08,250
That's all they understand.
557
00:34:09,449 --> 00:34:15,989
Go back to that jury room and return
with a number that'll make them
558
00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:37,600
That was very impassioned.
559
00:34:39,340 --> 00:34:45,679
However, cases are decided on fact and
merit, not passion.
560
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,880
Fact. The cause of most liver failure in
children is unknown.
561
00:34:53,219 --> 00:34:58,820
Fact. It's much more likely that Ms.
Mullen's stomach flu caused her liver
562
00:34:58,820 --> 00:35:01,100
failure than any drug she took.
563
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,880
Fact. The FDA reviewed Reflexin.
564
00:35:05,260 --> 00:35:09,100
and found it to be safe and effective
when used as directed.
565
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:13,160
Fact, the FDA still approves Reflexin.
566
00:35:14,140 --> 00:35:17,940
Fact, we warn doctors not to use it on
children under 16.
567
00:35:18,620 --> 00:35:23,300
Fact, Ms. Mullen's doctor read that
warning and still prescribed it.
568
00:35:24,780 --> 00:35:28,960
Mr. Bassett would have you believe that
the evil pharmaceutical companies are
569
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,000
out there killing people for profit.
570
00:35:32,180 --> 00:35:33,180
Reflexin.
571
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:38,490
is in the family of antibiotics that
have saved millions of lives.
572
00:35:39,690 --> 00:35:40,690
All right, yes.
573
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:44,710
The drug companies fund research. Does
this mean that the findings are bought?
574
00:35:44,850 --> 00:35:48,290
Absolutely not, and there is no evidence
to suggest otherwise.
575
00:35:48,730 --> 00:35:54,110
They pay for this research to get it
done, to be able to discover life
576
00:35:54,110 --> 00:35:58,430
medicines. We all live longer, more
enriched lives because of those
577
00:36:00,130 --> 00:36:02,610
Reflexin is one such.
578
00:36:03,020 --> 00:36:04,420
Life -saving medication.
579
00:36:06,020 --> 00:36:11,040
Now, do we know some doctors might
possibly prescribe it to children?
580
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,800
Yes.
581
00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:15,880
So we clearly warn them.
582
00:36:17,020 --> 00:36:19,720
Not proven safe for children.
583
00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:22,000
You know, what else can we do?
584
00:36:23,860 --> 00:36:25,540
What else can we do?
585
00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:54,830
No matter what happens, Harlan.
586
00:36:56,330 --> 00:36:57,550
You tried a great case.
587
00:36:58,330 --> 00:37:00,810
I still wish I could have done more with
the medicals.
588
00:37:01,150 --> 00:37:02,150
There isn't more.
589
00:37:02,570 --> 00:37:04,970
It's not like the truth is out there
somewhere.
590
00:37:07,570 --> 00:37:10,050
I don't know how I'm ever going to be
able to repay you.
591
00:37:10,690 --> 00:37:11,690
Me?
592
00:37:12,670 --> 00:37:14,230
I just bet there. Yeah, right.
593
00:37:24,509 --> 00:37:25,509
400. Hang on.
594
00:37:29,650 --> 00:37:31,530
I need a second with co -counsel.
595
00:37:41,550 --> 00:37:43,110
I don't know how to advise you.
596
00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:48,290
I can't say we're going to win, but if
we win, they should be more than full.
597
00:37:50,890 --> 00:37:52,070
What does your gut tell you?
598
00:37:53,380 --> 00:37:54,760
Only that I gotta throw up.
599
00:37:56,260 --> 00:37:58,840
No matter what, we gotta run it by the
client.
600
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,780
If they're offering four, you think
they'd go higher?
601
00:38:07,260 --> 00:38:10,080
Oh, this lawyer doesn't really play that
way. He just puts it out.
602
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,480
Now, that's not to say we couldn't chip
it up some, but... Harland, six months
603
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,360
ago, we put ourselves in your hands.
604
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:25,640
Let's go to verdict.
605
00:38:26,380 --> 00:38:28,960
Harlan. They never thought we'd get this
far, Eugene.
606
00:38:29,780 --> 00:38:30,780
Let's go to verdict.
607
00:38:31,020 --> 00:38:33,120
Let me see if I can get it up to six.
No.
608
00:38:34,860 --> 00:38:35,860
Let's go to verdict.
609
00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:41,020
You understand, Mr. Mullin, that this...
I understand that Harlan took us here.
610
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:43,980
I'm going to follow his instinct.
611
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,480
Jerry's back.
612
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,640
Who's Jerry?
613
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:52,300
Jury.
614
00:38:52,620 --> 00:38:53,720
The jury's back.
615
00:38:54,570 --> 00:38:55,570
Let's go.
616
00:39:02,410 --> 00:39:05,750
And Eugene, I'm sure.
617
00:39:06,770 --> 00:39:07,770
Okay.
618
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,120
600 ,000.
619
00:39:36,620 --> 00:39:37,620
No.
620
00:39:47,420 --> 00:39:48,540
Can you get a read?
621
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,440
No.
622
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,240
Mr. Foreman, have you reached a verdict?
623
00:40:02,540 --> 00:40:03,540
We have, Your Honor.
624
00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:06,580
What say you?
625
00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:10,260
In the matter of Ann Mullen v.
626
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:17,020
Hayden Laboratories, we find in favor of
the plaintiff, Ann Mullen.
627
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,220
And we order the defendant to pay
compensatory damages in the amount of $5
628
00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:23,220
million.
629
00:40:35,130 --> 00:40:38,250
The defendant moves for a judgment
notwithstanding the verdict.
630
00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:49,230
The evidence never established
causation, and no reasonable jury could
631
00:40:49,230 --> 00:40:49,908
it did.
632
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:52,690
In the alternative, we're entitled to a
new trial.
633
00:41:06,220 --> 00:41:07,220
Denied.
634
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,340
Members of the jury, this concludes your
service. Your judgment is so entered,
635
00:41:13,460 --> 00:41:16,380
and you are dismissed with thanks from
the court.
636
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,100
How about that?
637
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:30,620
Yeah.
638
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,380
You look like you're about to cry.
639
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,960
Yeah.
640
00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:40,820
And if you tell anybody, I'll kill you.
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