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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,740 --> 00:00:13,880 They're not dismissing. 2 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,300 Well, what about doing that motion for discovery? 3 00:00:18,180 --> 00:00:20,940 Daryl, we've already been... Because they need to discover that I didn't do 4 00:00:20,940 --> 00:00:21,940 this. 5 00:00:22,860 --> 00:00:26,980 The motion for discovery just asks for state's evidence, which we've already 6 00:00:26,980 --> 00:00:30,800 done. What we're talking about now, Daryl, is the trial. 7 00:00:31,260 --> 00:00:32,260 Oh. 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,840 And we need to do that, right? 9 00:00:34,780 --> 00:00:37,440 Because as long as I'm in here, well, then my grandmother's all alone. 10 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:39,940 She's too sick to come to court as it is. 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,180 I still think our best hope, Maybe with mental health issues. 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,400 With a borderline IQ and your background of physical abuse. 13 00:00:48,620 --> 00:00:51,160 But I told you before, I don't want to go to a mental hospital. I want to go 14 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:53,420 home. I understand what you're saying. 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:54,980 I really do. 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,220 But if we lose the trial, you won't get to go home either. 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,280 But we can't lose because I didn't kill the kid. Well, unfortunately, it doesn't 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,880 always work that way. But I can tell him I didn't do it. 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,900 Yeah. Well, I think the prosecution might ask for more than that. 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,680 Forget it. Richard, he is 17 going on 12. You had your evaluations. The kid 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,840 stand trial. Come on. I know there's a big humanitarian trapped inside that 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,839 little Nazi body. 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Oh, yes. Make little jokes. That's very big of you, Eleanor. 24 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:34,380 Look, Richard, I know you and I have had our differences. Ask Brian Tebbett's 25 00:01:34,380 --> 00:01:37,000 parents what they'd like to work out. Your client killed their eight -year 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,380 son for sport. Daryl Hutchins has the IQ. I am not making any deals. 27 00:01:41,780 --> 00:01:42,780 I'm sorry. 28 00:02:38,179 --> 00:02:39,220 Anything? Nothing. 29 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,080 Was your father beating you? 30 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,500 Because if he was, we could be talking self -defense. 31 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,800 Is that what happened? 32 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,460 Your neighbors heard you and your father arguing last night. Someone saw you 33 00:02:52,460 --> 00:02:53,460 running from the house. 34 00:02:53,620 --> 00:02:55,780 If you panic, that's totally understandable. 35 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,360 Wendy, look at me. 36 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:01,500 Look at me. 37 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:03,800 Let me help you. 38 00:03:07,630 --> 00:03:08,950 You tell me it was self -defense. 39 00:03:10,030 --> 00:03:11,670 And that's what I write down. 40 00:03:16,970 --> 00:03:18,270 I wasn't in the house. 41 00:03:19,970 --> 00:03:21,770 She's not going to talk. Where's the boyfriend? 42 00:03:22,150 --> 00:03:23,150 Next room. 43 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:33,690 Listen to me. 44 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,600 If she goes down for murder, you could be an accessory before the fact. 45 00:03:37,940 --> 00:03:39,300 That life in prison. 46 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,640 You ready for that? 47 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,780 The fact that this just happened last night could be a big break for you. 48 00:03:49,140 --> 00:03:50,760 Maybe you didn't know what happened when she called. 49 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:52,800 Maybe she didn't tell you till later. 50 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,840 You come forward now, you won't look like an accessory at all. I'm not going 51 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,840 talk. 52 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,760 Look, Scott, I could be your friend here or not. 53 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,940 My dad's a police officer. 54 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:06,420 I know my rights, and I want a lawyer. 55 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,240 Who's your dad? 56 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:10,280 Detective Frank Lopes. 57 00:04:13,540 --> 00:04:14,940 So get me a lawyer. 58 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,200 You heard? 59 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,440 It's Frank's kid. 60 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:26,880 Any ideas? 61 00:04:28,380 --> 00:04:30,860 Well, you should probably call Frank. 62 00:04:31,260 --> 00:04:32,560 I think we owe him that. 63 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,800 This will kill him. 64 00:04:42,060 --> 00:04:45,720 I am not commenting on the facts of the case. I am merely stating my opinion 65 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,940 that the Commonwealth is turning into a police state. 66 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:52,520 Daryl Hutchins doesn't have the mental capacity to defend himself, and yet they 67 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,520 push forward anyway. 68 00:04:53,770 --> 00:04:57,590 Why? Because Richard Bay can smell a conviction going after the mentally 69 00:04:57,590 --> 00:05:01,910 challenged and stockpiling convictions of how assistant district attorneys lay 70 00:05:01,910 --> 00:05:03,990 pipeline for their future political careers. 71 00:05:05,770 --> 00:05:10,290 If you think I'll tolerate any of the nonsense that went on in that last 72 00:05:10,470 --> 00:05:13,770 I'm not entitled to freedom of speech. That wasn't about free speech. That was 73 00:05:13,770 --> 00:05:17,430 intended for the jury. It was not. Give me a break, Eleanor. They're not 74 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:20,670 sequestered. She's hoping one or two of them will catch that little sound bite 75 00:05:20,670 --> 00:05:24,300 on the news. Look, I am this. This close to ordering that you two never be 76 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:25,780 allowed in the same courtroom again. 77 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,260 Miss Sprott, consider yourself gagged. No more talking to the press. 78 00:05:30,700 --> 00:05:31,700 That's all. 79 00:05:33,620 --> 00:05:37,440 You try to educate me, Eleanor. Why can't you just admit it? This is a case 80 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,400 should plead out, but you personalized everything because you need to beat me, 81 00:05:40,460 --> 00:05:43,740 so you... Your client committed a murder. DA should take that personally. 82 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:44,819 Oh, go away. 83 00:05:44,820 --> 00:05:45,960 Can I ask you something, Eleanor? 84 00:05:46,980 --> 00:05:51,000 Your guy picked up a board and clubbed an eight -year -old to death. Does that 85 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,000 even bother you? 86 00:05:52,590 --> 00:05:56,350 First of all, he said he didn't do it. Oh, well, I didn't know that. Let's 87 00:05:56,350 --> 00:05:57,350 dismiss them. 88 00:05:57,510 --> 00:06:01,530 Miss Front, my name's Eddie Chesler. I'm kind of a friend of Daryl's. 89 00:06:02,630 --> 00:06:03,630 And? 90 00:06:06,270 --> 00:06:07,270 What can I do for you? 91 00:06:09,090 --> 00:06:10,450 Daryl didn't kill that kid. 92 00:06:12,590 --> 00:06:14,490 Can we, like, go someplace to talk? 93 00:06:19,830 --> 00:06:20,830 What's going on? 94 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,820 A man by the name of Brendan Lohurst was found dead this morning. 95 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:26,100 What? 96 00:06:26,220 --> 00:06:30,200 My son goes out with his daughter. We know. He was found at the bottom of the 97 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,440 stairs with a broken neck. 98 00:06:31,740 --> 00:06:33,820 We think maybe his daughter pushed him. 99 00:06:34,780 --> 00:06:37,620 Or your son, Frank. He was seen fleeing the house. 100 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:39,100 My son? 101 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,980 They're both here and they're not talking. Scott's requested a lawyer. 102 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,560 Where is he? He's in room three. 103 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:51,530 I want to talk to him alone. 104 00:06:51,850 --> 00:06:52,850 No windows. 105 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:54,350 You have my word. 106 00:07:02,550 --> 00:07:03,610 This kid, Kenny. 107 00:07:04,170 --> 00:07:06,170 Kenny Sutton. He lives in the neighborhood. 108 00:07:06,950 --> 00:07:07,950 And he's trouble. 109 00:07:08,170 --> 00:07:09,550 I think he killed the boy. 110 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:14,530 Why? I was on my way over to meet him at that old house. So we kind of used it 111 00:07:14,530 --> 00:07:16,410 as a place to hang since no one lives there anymore. 112 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,740 I heard a scream from outside as I was on my way up. 113 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,020 Then I seen Daryl come up. He goes in. 114 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:26,240 Then I seen Kenny come out. 115 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,240 I think Kenny killed that boy before Daryl went in. 116 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,320 Why didn't you tell this to the police? 117 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,300 Because I got to live in that neighborhood. 118 00:07:35,980 --> 00:07:38,700 You ever spent any time in Charlestown? There's a code. 119 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:40,900 Well, why come forward now? 120 00:07:42,860 --> 00:07:45,360 Well, I guess because I also got to live with myself. 121 00:07:46,860 --> 00:07:48,400 Are you prepared to testify to this? 122 00:07:48,900 --> 00:07:49,900 If I have to. 123 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,260 Eddie, you wouldn't happen to have a grudge against this Kenny Sutton kid, 124 00:07:56,260 --> 00:07:58,140 you? Hey, I'm just telling you what happened. 125 00:07:58,880 --> 00:07:59,880 All right? 126 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:01,820 That you want my help or not. 127 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,720 He has something he wants to say. 128 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,060 We've known each other a long time, Helen. 129 00:08:20,900 --> 00:08:22,200 I'll do what I can, Frank. 130 00:08:25,460 --> 00:08:27,280 She was crying when she called. 131 00:08:27,780 --> 00:08:30,780 I asked her what was wrong, but she just said he did it again. 132 00:08:31,420 --> 00:08:33,520 I figured he must have hit her again. 133 00:08:33,820 --> 00:08:34,840 Her father hit her? 134 00:08:35,059 --> 00:08:37,440 Yes. And this has happened before? 135 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:40,200 A few times. I even told my dad about it. 136 00:08:42,179 --> 00:08:43,860 Did she tell you what the fight was about? 137 00:08:44,260 --> 00:08:46,240 It was always about how she talked back. 138 00:08:46,580 --> 00:08:47,600 He was an ass. 139 00:08:48,620 --> 00:08:50,040 Did she push him down the stairs? 140 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,880 No. She wasn't even there when he fell. 141 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:55,260 She was calling me from her cell phone. 142 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,840 You know for a fact she wasn't even there? 143 00:08:58,140 --> 00:08:59,500 Yes. How do you know? 144 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:10,340 Because when I went there, I went alone. 145 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:13,520 You saw Mr. Lohurst? 146 00:09:14,540 --> 00:09:17,260 I took my dad's gun and went to his house. 147 00:09:20,140 --> 00:09:21,620 Okay, and what happened then? 148 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,380 I went upstairs looking for him. 149 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:25,880 How'd you get in? 150 00:09:25,980 --> 00:09:28,180 I walked in. The door wasn't locked. 151 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,800 Then what happened? 152 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:38,000 He wasn't in his bedroom, so I went back into the hallway just as he's coming 153 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 out of the bathroom. 154 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:42,720 What'd you do? 155 00:09:45,260 --> 00:09:46,920 I pointed the gun at him. 156 00:09:47,610 --> 00:09:51,830 and told him if he ever laid a hand on Wendy again, I'd kill him. 157 00:09:52,710 --> 00:09:57,650 I just wanted to scare him, but he backed up and fell down the stairs. 158 00:10:02,950 --> 00:10:08,710 At first I thought he was knocked out, but then I could tell he was dead. 159 00:10:10,530 --> 00:10:12,530 I got scared and ran out. 160 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,680 I swear, Ms. Gamble, I never, ever wanted to hurt him. 161 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,900 I just wanted to scare him. 162 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,740 I can either go to the DA, turn over the new evidence, ask them to reopen the 163 00:10:40,740 --> 00:10:42,020 investigation. Richard Beck. 164 00:10:42,530 --> 00:10:43,690 Exactly. He won't do anything. 165 00:10:43,950 --> 00:10:47,070 You have to add him to your witness list. I'm doing that. My question is, do 166 00:10:47,070 --> 00:10:49,430 complain with what I've got, or do I just play the card at trial? 167 00:10:49,670 --> 00:10:50,670 Spring it at trial. 168 00:10:50,790 --> 00:10:53,690 Wait a second. If they investigate and this guy's story checks out, you might 169 00:10:53,690 --> 00:10:54,690 avoid a trial. 170 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,380 It doesn't sound like he totally blows the prosecution's case. And if the trial 171 00:10:58,380 --> 00:11:00,620 goes forward, the less prepared Richard Bay is. 172 00:11:00,900 --> 00:11:01,900 Unfair surprise. 173 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,180 No, it isn't. The witness is on the list. Are you telling them what the 174 00:11:05,180 --> 00:11:08,700 will say? No. Just that he was in the area and that he went into the house 175 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:11,360 this Kenny person. Nothing about hearing screams. I don't have to tip that. 176 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:12,700 Unfair surprise. 177 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,480 It is not. It isn't. Look, put him on the witness list. Let him give his 178 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,460 testimony. Let that be that. No way do you tip off Richard Bay. 179 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:22,760 Bobby, there's a detective on the scene. 180 00:11:23,060 --> 00:11:24,780 Bobby. Frank, what's up? 181 00:11:25,420 --> 00:11:27,940 He isn't good. Can I talk to you? Sure. Thanks. 182 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,800 Hey, Eugene, could you sit down? 183 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:32,560 Sure. 184 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:39,360 You let him talk? He's not a criminal. I understand, Frank, but he's facing 185 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:40,420 criminal charges. 186 00:11:40,820 --> 00:11:44,400 Bobby, I know the way police think, okay? You don't talk, you're a suspect 187 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,420 automatic. Well, it seems he is anyway. 188 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,180 They're going to arraign him? 189 00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:49,580 I don't know on what. 190 00:11:49,820 --> 00:11:52,060 I mean, Helen Gamble promised me. Helen Gamble's the DA. 191 00:11:52,620 --> 00:11:55,980 She said she might have to withdraw, since, you know, if she's going to help 192 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,360 I guess she'd have to. Frank, she might want to help you, but this is a 193 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,560 homicide. It is not going to slip by quietly, and DAs rarely cut favors on 194 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:04,560 murder cases. 195 00:12:04,740 --> 00:12:05,740 Trust me on that. 196 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:08,540 Bobby, Helen Gamble's here. 197 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,280 I just found out about the witness this morning. Oh, right. 198 00:12:18,540 --> 00:12:21,740 You were there when he walked up to me, Richard. What is your offer of proof? 199 00:12:22,060 --> 00:12:23,060 He was in the area. 200 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,320 He may be no good to me at all, who knows, but I'm desperate, okay? 201 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,060 My client doesn't have enough of an IQ to contribute to his own defense. Here 202 00:12:30,060 --> 00:12:33,720 go again. He knows that, and I should be allowed to add one lousy witness. Your 203 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:34,720 Honor, if I may respond. 204 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,800 No, you may not. The witness is allowed. 205 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:39,860 Let's go into court and get this over with. 206 00:12:43,690 --> 00:12:46,790 It's not an official objection, but I think you favor her. 207 00:12:54,990 --> 00:12:56,930 We're charging him with second -degree murder. 208 00:12:58,210 --> 00:12:59,210 What did you say? 209 00:12:59,770 --> 00:13:02,930 Unfortunately, they're all over this upstairs. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down, 210 00:13:03,050 --> 00:13:04,050 Helen. Second degree? 211 00:13:04,350 --> 00:13:05,350 That's life. 212 00:13:05,490 --> 00:13:07,050 With the possibility of parole. 213 00:13:07,370 --> 00:13:09,570 You heard it. It was an accident, for God's sake. 214 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,800 He's going to go to prison because of what, politics? 215 00:13:12,020 --> 00:13:14,920 It isn't politics, Frank. You looked me in the eye. You said you'd do what you 216 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:15,980 could. And I am. 217 00:13:17,340 --> 00:13:20,240 Frank, when you brought us in there for his statement, I thought he was an 218 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,920 accessory at best. It was an accident. 219 00:13:22,220 --> 00:13:25,200 Guy falls down a flight of stairs, you bring murder charges. How is that 220 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,300 anything to... He fired the gun. 221 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,040 What? 222 00:13:32,260 --> 00:13:33,500 The gun had been discharged. 223 00:13:33,780 --> 00:13:36,220 We did a trace metal on Scott. He fired it. 224 00:13:36,780 --> 00:13:39,720 He then dug the bullet out of the wall to avoid us finding it. 225 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:42,360 I'd like to help. 226 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,020 But we've got an armed assault in a dwelling. We've got enough to make first 227 00:13:47,020 --> 00:13:49,680 degree. In which case, there's no chance of parole. 228 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,420 Murder to the break, believe it or not. 229 00:14:06,990 --> 00:14:09,870 The victim died of blunt force trauma to the head. 230 00:14:10,110 --> 00:14:12,370 Were you able to determine the cause of the trauma? 231 00:14:12,650 --> 00:14:16,610 Yes. Wood fragments were recovered from the boy's skull, indicating he had been 232 00:14:16,610 --> 00:14:17,790 beaten with a wooden object. 233 00:14:18,110 --> 00:14:21,070 Did you subsequently determine the source of those fragments? 234 00:14:21,530 --> 00:14:26,610 They came from a plank removed from the flooring of the house and later 235 00:14:26,610 --> 00:14:29,670 recovered by the officers in the alley behind the crime scene. 236 00:14:34,270 --> 00:14:35,750 This would be the piece of wood? 237 00:14:36,270 --> 00:14:40,790 Yes, and further analysis found it to be covered with blood matching the victim. 238 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:43,110 And you tested for prints? 239 00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:47,350 Yes, I performed a fingerprint analysis of the latent prints lifted off that 240 00:14:47,350 --> 00:14:48,289 same piece of wood. 241 00:14:48,290 --> 00:14:50,070 And what did your analysis reveal? 242 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:53,310 Comparison revealed those prints to match the fingerprints of the defendant. 243 00:14:54,290 --> 00:14:58,370 But it's possible that Daryl picked up that board after it had been used by 244 00:14:58,370 --> 00:14:59,890 another person to murder the victim. 245 00:15:00,290 --> 00:15:03,670 Your client's prints were the only prints recovered from the board. 246 00:15:03,950 --> 00:15:07,390 Which would be the case if the actual perpetrator wore gloves or if he wiped 247 00:15:07,390 --> 00:15:09,790 prints off prior to my client handling the board. 248 00:15:12,650 --> 00:15:13,650 True. 249 00:15:16,010 --> 00:15:19,570 I didn't shoot at him, just to the thigh to scare him. 250 00:15:19,950 --> 00:15:22,110 For God's sakes, why didn't you tell me? 251 00:15:23,070 --> 00:15:24,950 I was afraid of how it would look. 252 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,420 You aimed the gun. I shot six feet wide of him, Dad, at four feet away. There's 253 00:15:29,420 --> 00:15:30,420 no way I could have... Dad, but you lied. 254 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,140 Okay, you lied to me, you lied to them. 255 00:15:32,340 --> 00:15:33,520 I'm ending chance of cooperation. 256 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,420 God! All right, all right. 257 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,440 Yelling's not going to solve anything. 258 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,860 We need to think. 259 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:45,020 I didn't shoot at him. 260 00:15:45,740 --> 00:15:47,140 And I didn't push him. 261 00:15:48,260 --> 00:15:49,420 It was an accident. 262 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:55,700 He's being arraigned tomorrow. 263 00:15:56,980 --> 00:15:58,260 After that, we dig in. 264 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,940 He's going to go to trial for murder. 265 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,440 I don't believe this. 266 00:16:05,420 --> 00:16:06,820 There may be another way to go. 267 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:12,000 What? I don't want to speak too soon. I need to do a little research. 268 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,520 But we may have an out. 269 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,400 What do you think? 270 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,460 The case is that confession after he asked for his lawyer. He confessed to 271 00:16:21,460 --> 00:16:22,460 father. 272 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,720 Who's a cop? But he didn't confess to him as a cop. He was talking to his dad. 273 00:16:27,140 --> 00:16:28,360 That'll be Helen's argument. 274 00:16:28,980 --> 00:16:30,040 Doesn't have to be ours. 275 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,860 He was always afraid of him. 276 00:16:38,340 --> 00:16:39,560 Your son was afraid? 277 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,420 Of him, the defendant. 278 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:43,760 Did he say why? 279 00:16:44,140 --> 00:16:45,140 Not really. 280 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,620 Brian would just say that he was a little off. 281 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,220 Mr. Hutchins. I'm not off. 282 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:53,480 Daryl. 283 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,820 Mr. Tabbit, did you regard your son's fears to be serious? 284 00:17:01,940 --> 00:17:02,940 Not enough. 285 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,400 I just wish I had done something. 286 00:17:07,380 --> 00:17:08,640 Gone to his grandmother. 287 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,760 Checked him out. 288 00:17:10,940 --> 00:17:16,200 Objection. How could someone so clearly disturbed be on the street unsupervised? 289 00:17:16,589 --> 00:17:17,549 How does that work? 290 00:17:17,550 --> 00:17:19,050 Objection sustained. Mr. 291 00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:20,169 Bay. 292 00:17:20,170 --> 00:17:21,170 That's all I have. 293 00:17:30,590 --> 00:17:31,590 Brian's fears. 294 00:17:31,870 --> 00:17:35,830 Were they caused by Daryl ever doing anything to your son? 295 00:17:37,030 --> 00:17:38,350 Not that I'm aware of. 296 00:17:38,730 --> 00:17:43,590 It was mainly Brian got scared because he perceived Daryl as being a little 297 00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:45,230 Yes. 298 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,000 And, sir, I'm very sorry for your loss. 299 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,240 So we're winning, right? Seems like we're winning. 300 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,280 I wouldn't say that, Daryl. I think we are. You did great, Eleanor. 301 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:14,640 Daryl, look. 302 00:18:16,170 --> 00:18:19,050 I need to talk to you a little bit more about this Kenny fellow. 303 00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:20,270 He's cool. 304 00:18:21,190 --> 00:18:22,190 Yes. 305 00:18:23,230 --> 00:18:24,230 Are you sure? 306 00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:27,650 Absolutely sure that when you went into the house, you didn't see Kenny do 307 00:18:27,650 --> 00:18:30,330 anything? I'm sure. He was just leaving. 308 00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:32,350 Okay. 309 00:18:32,930 --> 00:18:33,930 Eddie Chesler. 310 00:18:34,010 --> 00:18:35,010 Yeah, he's my friend. 311 00:18:35,390 --> 00:18:36,390 Yes, I know that. 312 00:18:36,970 --> 00:18:43,430 Eddie seems to think that you might be protecting Kenny because, well, you 313 00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:44,429 he's cool. 314 00:18:44,430 --> 00:18:45,510 If you are, Daryl. 315 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,240 That wouldn't be smart here. 316 00:18:48,300 --> 00:18:49,780 You already told me that. 317 00:18:50,020 --> 00:18:52,500 But I'm not sure you totally understand it. 318 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:59,580 If you saw this Kenny kid do something to that little boy... I didn't, I 319 00:18:59,580 --> 00:19:00,580 promise. 320 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:04,400 You think I'm stupid, don't you? 321 00:19:05,660 --> 00:19:07,400 No, Daryl, I don't think that. 322 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:08,860 Yes, you do. 323 00:19:15,500 --> 00:19:19,740 Look, I have to go meet Eddie because he's up next, so I want you to get some 324 00:19:19,740 --> 00:19:21,140 rest, and I'll see you tomorrow. 325 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,240 Okay? 326 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:25,500 Yeah. 327 00:19:31,780 --> 00:19:32,780 Eleanor? 328 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:35,140 I think we're winning. 329 00:19:48,430 --> 00:19:50,350 Okay. Tomorrow morning you're up first. Are you ready? 330 00:19:50,850 --> 00:19:51,850 Ready. 331 00:19:52,010 --> 00:19:54,630 I should just stick with the same story I told you, right? 332 00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:57,290 Which is the truth, right? 333 00:19:57,730 --> 00:20:01,330 You heard the boys scream before Daryl went in, and then you saw that Kenny kid 334 00:20:01,330 --> 00:20:02,330 come out? 335 00:20:02,490 --> 00:20:03,329 Got it. 336 00:20:03,330 --> 00:20:05,310 Never mind got it. Is that what happened or not? 337 00:20:06,870 --> 00:20:10,430 Look, I can only put you on the stand if what you testified to is the truth. 338 00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:12,970 So what if I just tell you it's the truth? 339 00:20:13,470 --> 00:20:16,730 You don't know otherwise for a fact, Hank. You got no case without me. 340 00:20:17,050 --> 00:20:18,470 This isn't a game, Eddie. 341 00:20:18,670 --> 00:20:22,410 The rest of Daryl's life is on the line here. Which is why I'm here. 342 00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:26,210 What happened? Tell me. 343 00:20:26,450 --> 00:20:27,930 It all happened, Miss Front. 344 00:20:28,570 --> 00:20:29,610 Daryl went in the house. 345 00:20:29,910 --> 00:20:31,990 Kenny went in the house. The boy screamed. 346 00:20:32,750 --> 00:20:34,290 I just changed the order of things. 347 00:20:36,830 --> 00:20:40,650 Just put me up there. You are not taking the stand. Go. Just get lost. 348 00:20:41,050 --> 00:20:42,050 What about Daryl? 349 00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:46,070 You have not helped Daryl, Eddie. Now get out of here. You're not testifying. 350 00:21:00,690 --> 00:21:01,710 So what are you going to do? 351 00:21:02,890 --> 00:21:05,050 What can I do? I'll have to put Daryl on the stand. 352 00:21:05,730 --> 00:21:07,590 Daryl? Have you got a better idea? 353 00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:12,090 No, but he has the IQ of a 12 -year -old. You're going to pit him against 354 00:21:12,090 --> 00:21:13,029 Richard Bay? 355 00:21:13,030 --> 00:21:13,949 Even match. 356 00:21:13,950 --> 00:21:17,590 I have no choice. They've placed him at the scene. His prints are all over the 357 00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:20,110 weapon. If he doesn't get up and tell his story, he goes away. 358 00:21:20,490 --> 00:21:22,150 But you can't still put Eddie back on the stand? 359 00:21:22,430 --> 00:21:24,410 Knowing he's going to lie? No, we can't do that, Lucy. 360 00:21:26,150 --> 00:21:27,150 I'm open for suggestions. 361 00:21:29,090 --> 00:21:30,090 Anybody? 362 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,640 Good luck. 363 00:21:33,220 --> 00:21:38,520 Case number 42643, Commonwealth v. Scott Lowe. Bobby Donovan for the defendant, 364 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,000 Your Honor. Wave reading. Ask for personal recognizance. Murder two. No 365 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,000 risk. This was accidental. 366 00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:45,240 Murder two. The Commonwealth opposes bail. 367 00:21:45,770 --> 00:21:46,770 Bailiff denied. 368 00:21:46,790 --> 00:21:50,350 The defense moves to suppress my client's confession. Sixth Amendment 369 00:21:50,350 --> 00:21:51,690 asked for his lawyer and was denied. 370 00:21:51,970 --> 00:21:55,250 The confession was made to his own father. My client's father is a police 371 00:21:55,250 --> 00:21:59,050 officer who went in to interrogate and sent Scott Lopes as his son. You gotta 372 00:21:59,050 --> 00:22:02,230 kidding. He asked for his lawyer. They sent in a police officer. 373 00:22:02,490 --> 00:22:03,770 Bobby, even for you. 374 00:22:03,970 --> 00:22:05,530 Helen, even for you. 375 00:22:05,910 --> 00:22:06,910 All right. 376 00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:11,450 What's going on? It's exactly what I said. Detective Lopes entered that room 377 00:22:11,450 --> 00:22:15,250 a father, not a police officer. There's no state action here. And I disagree. 378 00:22:15,490 --> 00:22:19,490 Mr. Donald, you're suggesting that Detective Lopes assumed the role of a 379 00:22:19,490 --> 00:22:21,070 officer when talking to his own son. 380 00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:24,350 I request a short evidentiary hearing, Your Honor. I'd like to call Detective 381 00:22:24,350 --> 00:22:28,170 Mike McGuire to the stand. What are you trying to scam now? I object to that, 382 00:22:28,210 --> 00:22:31,070 but as long as I'm throwing words like scam around... We're not. 383 00:22:31,770 --> 00:22:33,790 The detective will take the stand at 11. 384 00:22:34,270 --> 00:22:35,270 You're joking. 385 00:22:38,010 --> 00:22:39,010 Next case. 386 00:22:42,930 --> 00:22:45,830 Well, I walked up to the house because that's where a lot of us go, you know. 387 00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:47,049 Why's that? 388 00:22:47,050 --> 00:22:48,570 Because there's never any grown -ups there. 389 00:22:48,890 --> 00:22:51,430 And when you went to the house on this day, Daryl, what did you see? 390 00:22:51,790 --> 00:22:53,370 I saw my friend Kenny Sutton. 391 00:22:53,910 --> 00:22:54,910 He lives around there. 392 00:22:55,310 --> 00:22:56,470 And was he doing anything? 393 00:22:57,570 --> 00:22:59,930 Just smoking a cigarette, and then he left. 394 00:23:00,190 --> 00:23:01,190 And what happened then? 395 00:23:01,530 --> 00:23:06,050 Well, then I was going to leave because no one was there, but I had to use the 396 00:23:06,050 --> 00:23:07,050 bathroom. 397 00:23:08,580 --> 00:23:12,560 But when I went over by the stairs, that's when I saw him. 398 00:23:13,140 --> 00:23:14,140 Who? 399 00:23:14,340 --> 00:23:15,340 Brian Tevitt. 400 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,880 He was dead. 401 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,360 There was blood everywhere. 402 00:23:19,860 --> 00:23:20,860 And what did you do? 403 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:24,840 Well, I poked him a little at first to see if he was still alive, but he 404 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,860 There was this big piece of wood on his head, and I lifted it off. 405 00:23:34,300 --> 00:23:35,480 Was it this piece of wood here? 406 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,720 Yes, I think that's it. 407 00:23:40,469 --> 00:23:43,110 Daryl, you go to a special school, am I right? 408 00:23:43,550 --> 00:23:44,550 I'm not stupid. 409 00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:46,030 No, no, you're not. 410 00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:49,250 You go to a special school because you're behind the other kids. 411 00:23:49,790 --> 00:23:55,190 Right. But you do understand, sitting in this chair under oath, it's important 412 00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:56,190 that you tell the truth. 413 00:23:56,830 --> 00:23:57,830 Yes. 414 00:23:58,010 --> 00:23:59,390 Are you telling the truth now? 415 00:24:00,110 --> 00:24:01,110 Yes, I am. 416 00:24:01,170 --> 00:24:02,610 I didn't kill that boy. 417 00:24:02,850 --> 00:24:04,210 I found him like that. 418 00:24:06,330 --> 00:24:08,110 But you didn't report it to the police. 419 00:24:08,860 --> 00:24:10,020 I told other people. 420 00:24:10,260 --> 00:24:12,140 Yeah, you seemed to go around celebrating it. 421 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,440 Objection, Foundation. 422 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,160 Sustained. 423 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,060 Why didn't you tell the police? 424 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,220 I told everybody I saw. 425 00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:22,520 If I'd seen a policeman, I would have told him, too. 426 00:24:25,220 --> 00:24:27,720 Ever have any arguments with Brian Tebbett, Daryl? 427 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,320 Once in a while. 428 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,560 Was he your friend? 429 00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:34,020 Not really. He was only eight. 430 00:24:34,620 --> 00:24:37,520 Did he and some of the other young kids tease you? 431 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,660 Sometimes. Did he call you a retard? 432 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,880 Sometimes, but I'm not a retard. 433 00:24:44,580 --> 00:24:47,980 Did you ever tell him he'd be sorry one day for calling you a retard? 434 00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:49,940 But I didn't kill him. 435 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,200 Did you hit him? 436 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,480 No. 437 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,580 Did he call you a retard when you walked in that house that day? 438 00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,200 No. He was already dead. 439 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,760 Nothing further. 440 00:25:04,780 --> 00:25:07,360 Mr. Hutchins, you may go back to your table now. 441 00:25:09,459 --> 00:25:11,900 Ms. Frutt, the defense rests, Your Honor. 442 00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:13,120 Mr. Bay. 443 00:25:16,660 --> 00:25:18,140 One rebuttal, Witness, Your Honor. 444 00:25:18,380 --> 00:25:20,500 The Commonwealth calls Eddie Chesler. 445 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:26,500 Sidebar. 446 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,960 He's properly listed as a witness. This is a liar looking for attention. How do 447 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,960 you know? Because he was going to lie to help Daryl. 448 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,560 And as soon as I found out his story was a fabrication, I properly excused him 449 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,640 as a witness, and now he's looking for his 15 minutes of fame with you. 450 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,320 He didn't come to me, Eleanor. I went to him. 451 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,620 I saw your little disagreement in the court, where I figured whatever he had 452 00:25:50,620 --> 00:25:52,960 say didn't help you. I thought it would help me, and I was right. 453 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,060 This witness is unreliable. His testimony could be prejudicial. So, 454 00:25:57,060 --> 00:25:59,680 what he told you. Was anyone else present for your conversation? 455 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,800 No. Well, then, shame on you. Never interview a witness alone. 456 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,000 This is what you get. 457 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,020 Thank you, Your Honor. I was so hoping for a lesson. 458 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,460 And at that point, he asked to see his lawyer. And then what happened? We 459 00:26:15,460 --> 00:26:18,600 stopped the interrogation. Then, since his father was a colleague, out of 460 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,180 courtesy, we gave him a call. 461 00:26:20,380 --> 00:26:21,179 And then? 462 00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:23,920 His father came down, went in and talked to his son. 463 00:26:24,180 --> 00:26:27,500 Then when Frank emerged, he said that his son was ready to make a statement. 464 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,660 Detective, did Scott Lopes ask to see his father? 465 00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:32,820 Actually, no. He just asked to see his lawyer. 466 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,400 Whose idea was it to call Detective Lopes? 467 00:26:35,850 --> 00:26:36,850 Helen Gambles. 468 00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:39,010 Your Honor, at this point, I'd like to call Helen Gamble. 469 00:26:39,370 --> 00:26:43,930 I'm the prosecuting DA. This is just an evidentiary hearing. So what? I'm the DA 470 00:26:43,930 --> 00:26:45,830 of record. I can't... Then maybe you shouldn't be. 471 00:26:46,350 --> 00:26:47,730 What the hell are you up to now? 472 00:26:47,970 --> 00:26:48,709 Your Honor. 473 00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:52,550 Ms. Gamble, please take the stand. 474 00:26:55,570 --> 00:26:59,870 And as I was walking, I was maybe 30 yards away from the house, I saw Daryl. 475 00:27:00,190 --> 00:27:01,190 The defendant? 476 00:27:01,870 --> 00:27:06,000 Yes. And can you tell the court what you observe next, Mr. Chesler? 477 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Uh, excuse me, before you do, we should establish you're here under subpoena, 478 00:27:11,380 --> 00:27:12,660 aren't you, Mr. Chesler? 479 00:27:13,140 --> 00:27:17,140 Yes. You're, in fact, a friend of the defendant, are you not? 480 00:27:17,940 --> 00:27:20,420 I like the guy, yeah, and he's a good kid. 481 00:27:20,660 --> 00:27:23,620 In fact, you were prepared to lie to help him, weren't you? 482 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,420 I wanted to help him, I admit that. You don't have any motive to hurt him? 483 00:27:29,260 --> 00:27:30,940 No, I don't. 484 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,400 Okay. 485 00:27:33,260 --> 00:27:36,620 Continue. Could you tell us what happened next? 486 00:27:38,340 --> 00:27:41,200 Well, I'd seen Daryl moving towards the house. 487 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,500 Then, all of a sudden, I heard this awful screaming coming from inside the 488 00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:47,500 house. 489 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,540 You heard the scream after Daryl went in? 490 00:27:52,540 --> 00:27:58,820 No. No, before he went in. Daryl was still outside. He went in after I heard 491 00:27:58,820 --> 00:27:59,820 screaming. 492 00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:00,960 Mr. Chesler. 493 00:28:02,540 --> 00:28:09,140 Did you not tell me earlier you heard the screaming after Daryl Hutchins 494 00:28:09,140 --> 00:28:10,140 the dwelling? 495 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,080 Yes, I told you that, but that's not what happened. 496 00:28:13,580 --> 00:28:18,840 The screaming came before Daryl went in. Mr. Chesler, why did you tell Mr. Bay 497 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,840 otherwise? 498 00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:23,020 Because I knew he wouldn't put me up here if I was going to tell the truth. 499 00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:26,600 Objection! Move to strike! And I thought the truth had to come out however I 500 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,600 could get to say it. 501 00:28:28,030 --> 00:28:32,970 I've been tricked. This is a sneaky, sleazy, disgusting trick. I'm just 502 00:28:32,970 --> 00:28:34,190 what really happened. 503 00:28:40,090 --> 00:28:41,510 Anything else, Mr. Bay? 504 00:28:46,390 --> 00:28:47,390 No. 505 00:28:48,150 --> 00:28:49,150 Miss Front? 506 00:28:50,690 --> 00:28:51,870 Uh, nothing, Your Honor. 507 00:28:52,210 --> 00:28:53,770 The witness may step down. 508 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,640 Mr. Bay, anything else? 509 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:08,960 Mr. Bay? 510 00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:17,040 We are adjourned until after lunch, and then we will hear closing arguments. 511 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:21,460 That went well, right? 512 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,160 That went very well. 513 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,640 It was a courtesy. I've known Frank Lopes for nine years. 514 00:29:29,980 --> 00:29:30,779 He's a friend? 515 00:29:30,780 --> 00:29:31,719 Yes, he is. 516 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,300 Known him to be an honest cop? 517 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,040 Very. Straight shooter? 518 00:29:35,260 --> 00:29:37,320 He shoots straighter than his son, I guess. 519 00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:42,860 And if his son told him the truth, knowing Frank Lopes the way you do, what 520 00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:43,920 you think he would do with the information? 521 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,460 I didn't think about it. 522 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,880 You didn't think about it? No, I didn't, counsel. 523 00:29:48,140 --> 00:29:51,140 I was just letting a father visit his son. 524 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,660 Well, you didn't let the father visit the son before the police question him. 525 00:29:55,820 --> 00:29:59,620 Only after the boy asked for his lawyer. Only after you didn't get anywhere. 526 00:30:00,090 --> 00:30:03,470 Then you called for the dad. You sent for the father to get a confession you 527 00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:04,470 couldn't get, didn't you? 528 00:30:04,590 --> 00:30:05,710 No, I did not. 529 00:30:05,950 --> 00:30:08,270 You're under oath, Helen. I know my oath, Eugene. 530 00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:13,390 It is your testimony that when you called for Scott Lopes' father, you did 531 00:30:13,390 --> 00:30:15,870 do it for the purpose of facilitating a confession. 532 00:30:16,210 --> 00:30:17,270 That's my testimony. 533 00:30:18,130 --> 00:30:22,250 Because you would never take advantage of a friend that way, would you, Helen? 534 00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:26,050 That seems argumentative. Am I allowed to object from the chair, Your Honor? 535 00:30:26,050 --> 00:30:27,090 objection is sustained. 536 00:30:27,570 --> 00:30:28,930 Ask questions, Counsel. 537 00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:30,370 Here's a question. 538 00:30:31,090 --> 00:30:35,530 As a friend, why didn't you have a lawyer present before getting a 539 00:30:35,530 --> 00:30:36,530 from Scott Lopes? 540 00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:40,890 Wouldn't a friend say, hey, you might want to wait for a lawyer? 541 00:30:41,330 --> 00:30:42,330 Objection, speculation. 542 00:30:42,590 --> 00:30:45,610 Truth is, the Lopeses felt they were getting legal help, didn't they, Helen, 543 00:30:45,730 --> 00:30:46,669 from a friend? 544 00:30:46,670 --> 00:30:50,250 Objection, argument. Tough having to be both a witness and a DA here, isn't it? 545 00:30:50,270 --> 00:30:51,850 Tough playing a dual role, huh, Helen? 546 00:30:52,170 --> 00:30:55,610 Objection, badgering. But you weren't playing a dual role the other day. You 547 00:30:55,610 --> 00:30:58,810 were just a DA. You sent that man to get on a mission to get... Objection, 548 00:30:58,810 --> 00:31:00,520 badgering. Are you going to rule or not? 549 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,480 Move along, Mr. Young. 550 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,000 I think I'm done, Your Honor. 551 00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:07,160 I don't have any questions at all. 552 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,400 Not anymore. 553 00:31:18,620 --> 00:31:22,160 I don't question that Frank Lopes went into that room as a father, not as a 554 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,400 Then what's the issue? 555 00:31:23,420 --> 00:31:27,660 The issue is he was used unwittingly by the district attorney. She called him to 556 00:31:27,660 --> 00:31:28,660 get a confession. 557 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,700 Regardless what was in Frank Lope's mind, Helen Gamble's thinking was, let's 558 00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:35,740 the father to get the information, knowing the father, a good straight cop, 559 00:31:35,980 --> 00:31:39,720 would turn it over. So you're a mind reader now. Well, Ms. Gamble, if 560 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,100 professional courtesy was the goal, why did you not call the father before you 561 00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,680 hit the wall with the police interrogation? 562 00:31:44,990 --> 00:31:48,990 The police interrogation had started before I got there. Scott Lopes asked 563 00:31:48,990 --> 00:31:54,270 his lawyer. By law, all questioning must stop. And all questioning did stop. It 564 00:31:54,270 --> 00:31:58,990 was his father. And on cases where the father is also a cop, the courts looked 565 00:31:58,990 --> 00:32:03,510 at the totality of circumstances to determine, was the statement given 566 00:32:03,510 --> 00:32:07,110 voluntarily? Here it was, and everyone knows it. 567 00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:16,660 You want to call me as a witness? I know what he told you. You can verify that 568 00:32:16,660 --> 00:32:20,440 his testimony was a total fabrication. Are you on drugs? As a matter of fact, I 569 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,620 am. I've been pounding aspirin for three hours. 570 00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:23,659 Mr. Bay. 571 00:32:23,660 --> 00:32:27,020 Your Honor, Eddie Chesler just proffered false testimony. 572 00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:32,980 She knows it. You can't call me to testify against the interests of my 573 00:32:32,980 --> 00:32:34,600 believe I can in the interest of justice. 574 00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:36,160 You can excuse yourself. 575 00:32:36,380 --> 00:32:40,160 Oh, come on. Look, what's happened here? I have to admit this all seems very 576 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,780 strange. The guy flipped on... me, then he flipped on Richard anything to get 577 00:32:44,780 --> 00:32:45,780 into the witness chair. 578 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,840 You didn't orchestrate this, did you? 579 00:32:48,340 --> 00:32:53,380 I'm sorry? Oh, how ingenious. Get the prosecution to call him. That way his 580 00:32:53,380 --> 00:32:57,660 testimony becomes a total bombshell. Hey, I am the one who excused his 581 00:32:57,660 --> 00:33:01,160 when I knew he was going to lie. This goes totally against your character. Oh, 582 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,160 should have known something was up the minute you started acting ethically. 583 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,200 another aspirin. Your Honor, she has information. 584 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,800 She's a witness. 585 00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:16,500 I'm sorry, Mr. Bay. I'm not going to allow the prosecution to call defense 586 00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:18,360 counsel to impeach a state's witness. 587 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,800 You got a bad bounce. 588 00:33:22,620 --> 00:33:24,040 You'll just have to deal with it. 589 00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:25,560 What a jip. 590 00:33:25,780 --> 00:33:27,880 Excuse me. This is a total jip. 591 00:33:28,380 --> 00:33:31,240 Oh, that argument you'll definitely want to save for appeal. 592 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:33,540 For now, let's go. 593 00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:39,360 No eyewitnesses. 594 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,180 Their entire case. 595 00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:42,580 It's fingerprint. 596 00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:46,860 And you heard Daryl Hutchins tell you how those fingerprints got there. 597 00:33:47,060 --> 00:33:48,920 He picked up the piece of wood. 598 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,480 Stupid thing to do? 599 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,960 Of course. 600 00:33:52,460 --> 00:33:56,340 But Daryl is a little slower than the rest of us. 601 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,540 And he just happened to walk into that house at the wrong time. 602 00:34:01,340 --> 00:34:03,740 And you heard Eddie Chesler's testimony. 603 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:10,760 He said he heard the scream before Daryl went into that building. Before he went 604 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,760 in. 605 00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:13,679 What about this Kenny Sutton? 606 00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:15,040 Why wasn't he called? 607 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,560 Why wasn't he put on the stand to say that Brian Tebbett was still alive when 608 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,679 left the building? There is reasonable doubt every way you turn on this one. 609 00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:29,940 Eddie Chesler is a liar who tricked his way onto the stand in order to help a 610 00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:33,840 friend. The defense couldn't call him since they knew him to be a liar. 611 00:34:34,420 --> 00:34:35,880 Objection. Sustained. 612 00:34:39,340 --> 00:34:40,340 You know... 613 00:34:42,670 --> 00:34:48,110 It's easy to fall into the trap of looking at trials with a scorecard. 614 00:34:48,909 --> 00:34:52,510 Who built up the most points? Who won the day? Who lost? 615 00:34:52,929 --> 00:34:53,989 Like it's a game. 616 00:34:55,489 --> 00:35:02,310 As I stood here in this room yesterday, egg all over my face, I'm sure I looked 617 00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:04,390 every bit the loser I felt I was. 618 00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:09,130 Imagine my embarrassment being surprised by my own witness. 619 00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:12,150 But this isn't a game. 620 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,940 Ladies and gentlemen, you don't go back to that room and decide who racked up 621 00:35:16,940 --> 00:35:20,700 the most points. The question is, who killed Brian Tebbett? 622 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,860 Other than the untruthful testimony of Eddie Chesler, the evidence, all of it, 623 00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:29,960 points to Daryl Hutchins. 624 00:35:30,620 --> 00:35:35,020 He threatened the boy. He was alone with him in a house. When Mr. Hutchins left, 625 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:40,480 Brian Tebbett was dead, with the defendant's fingerprints all over the 626 00:35:42,190 --> 00:35:45,210 For once, let's not look at this as a game. 627 00:35:47,170 --> 00:35:48,650 Let's hold the killer responsible. 628 00:35:52,910 --> 00:35:57,430 We've had parents extract confessions before, and the test has always been, 629 00:35:57,430 --> 00:36:01,550 the parent acting as a parent or rather as an agent of the state when speaking 630 00:36:01,550 --> 00:36:02,950 with his or her arrested child? 631 00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:08,150 Nobody here seems to be doubting Detective Lopes went into that room as a 632 00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:10,010 father, not as a police officer. 633 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,860 But to me the question doesn't end there. 634 00:36:14,860 --> 00:36:20,720 Anything designed to elicit an incriminating response, by definition, 635 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:21,720 interrogation. 636 00:36:23,380 --> 00:36:27,760 Therefore, Ms. Gamble, if you sent the father into that room as part of a 637 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,680 to collect information, the court holds that to be an interrogation, even if the 638 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,280 father was an unwitting participant. 639 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,080 The question here... 640 00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:40,360 is what was in your mind. 641 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,600 Only you know. 642 00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:48,160 The court, however, is allowed to take note of your competitive reputation. 643 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,580 The court also takes note that Detective Lopes never would have entered that 644 00:36:53,580 --> 00:36:57,660 room unless you sent for him. And since you sent for him after you struck out 645 00:36:57,660 --> 00:37:02,620 with the police interrogation, and since the defendant had invoked his right to 646 00:37:02,620 --> 00:37:05,540 counsel, I smell a foul ball. 647 00:37:08,590 --> 00:37:09,810 The confession is suppressed. 648 00:37:10,770 --> 00:37:13,730 The gun and the bullet are deemed fruit of the poisonous tree and are similarly 649 00:37:13,730 --> 00:37:14,730 suppressed. 650 00:37:14,930 --> 00:37:18,250 In the absence of this evidence, I find no cause to hold the defendant, and he 651 00:37:18,250 --> 00:37:19,530 is therefore free to go. 652 00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:21,630 Adjourned. 653 00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:26,110 Thank you. 654 00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:27,230 Thank you. 655 00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:30,210 Not to admit I hate what you guys do, but I love it today. 656 00:37:32,930 --> 00:37:35,610 Would Your Honor have a big, long stick handy? 657 00:37:36,350 --> 00:37:37,350 Preferably barbed. 658 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,019 I'm sorry? 659 00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:42,800 I'd like to bend over and have it run up my ass to complete the experience of 660 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:43,800 appearing before you. 661 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:47,660 I'll let that go, Counsel. 662 00:37:49,620 --> 00:37:50,620 Once. 663 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,160 I won't let it go, Helen. 664 00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:58,900 You sent me in there to do your work. 665 00:37:59,540 --> 00:38:00,540 With my own son. 666 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,080 Come on, Frank. 667 00:38:02,540 --> 00:38:03,540 Come on. 668 00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:11,370 Will the defendant please rise? 669 00:38:14,050 --> 00:38:15,130 What say you? 670 00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:20,190 On the charge of murder in the first degree, we find the defendant, Daryl 671 00:38:20,190 --> 00:38:22,290 Hutchins, not guilty. 672 00:38:23,090 --> 00:38:28,190 On the charge of murder in the second degree, we find the defendant, Daryl 673 00:38:28,190 --> 00:38:30,670 Hutchins, not guilty. 674 00:38:32,890 --> 00:38:33,890 Unbelievable. 675 00:38:35,010 --> 00:38:36,870 The defendant is free to go. 676 00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:40,840 Members of the jury, you are dismissed with the court's thanks. We are 677 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:41,840 adjourned. 678 00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:43,920 You did it, Eleanor. You did it. 679 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,280 I think you can thank your friend, Eddie. He helped, too. 680 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,060 It was my idea, you know. 681 00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:54,900 I'm sorry? 682 00:38:54,980 --> 00:38:58,840 I knew if he testified for me, the jury would only, like, half believe him. 683 00:38:59,340 --> 00:39:04,440 But if he was the prosecution witness... You told him to do that? 684 00:39:05,820 --> 00:39:07,330 I told him. I told you I wasn't stupid. 685 00:39:07,870 --> 00:39:09,370 I told you I wasn't a retard. 686 00:39:11,930 --> 00:39:12,990 No, you're not, Daryl. 687 00:39:16,570 --> 00:39:19,570 Well, I'm going to go see my grandmother, because I know she misses 688 00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:50,169 You can't quit. 689 00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:51,730 I need you to talk me out of quitting. 690 00:39:55,530 --> 00:39:58,290 Why is it getting so hard to get convictions these days? 691 00:39:58,550 --> 00:40:02,410 Because people are becoming more distrustful of the police. And DAs, we 692 00:40:02,410 --> 00:40:04,050 have the presumption of integrity anymore. 693 00:40:05,050 --> 00:40:06,470 Why? I don't understand. 694 00:40:07,070 --> 00:40:08,070 Tell me. 695 00:40:08,090 --> 00:40:10,710 Did you send the father in there for the purpose of getting the kid's 696 00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:12,070 confession? Yes. 697 00:40:13,710 --> 00:40:14,710 So? 698 00:40:16,620 --> 00:40:19,120 If he were innocent, there'd be no confession to be had. 699 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,440 I need it, Richard. 700 00:40:28,980 --> 00:40:29,980 Give it to me. 701 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,460 What? The speech. 702 00:40:32,940 --> 00:40:38,040 Why we do what we do. Oh, I am not really in the mood after the... Please, 703 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,440 Richard, I need it. 704 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,660 Please give it to me, and don't just phone it in. 705 00:40:42,980 --> 00:40:44,260 Helen. Please. 706 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,920 Can't you see how demoralized I am? 707 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,560 Okay. 708 00:40:55,460 --> 00:40:57,100 There are heroes in this world. 709 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,780 They're called district attorneys. 710 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,620 They don't get to have clients, people who smile at them at the end of the 711 00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:06,340 trial, who look them in the eye and say, thank you. 712 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,240 Nobody's there to appreciate the district attorney because we work for 713 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:11,240 state. 714 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,080 And our gratitude comes only from knowing there's a tide out there. 715 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,420 A tide the size of a tsunami coming out of a bottomless cesspool. 716 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:25,380 A tide called crime, which if left unchecked, will rob every American of 717 00:41:25,380 --> 00:41:26,380 freedom. 718 00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:31,260 A tide which strips individuals of the privilege of being able to walk down a 719 00:41:31,260 --> 00:41:35,400 dark street or to take $20 out of an ATM machine without fear of being mugged. 720 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,380 All Congress does is talk. 721 00:41:37,630 --> 00:41:41,830 But it's the district attorney who grabs his sword, who digs into the trenches 722 00:41:41,830 --> 00:41:46,790 and fights the fight, who dogs justice day after day after day without thanks, 723 00:41:46,930 --> 00:41:50,950 without so much as a simple pat on the back. But we do it. We do it. We do it 724 00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:55,890 because we are the crusaders, the last frontier of American justice, knowing 725 00:41:55,890 --> 00:41:59,770 that if a man cannot feel safe, he can never, never feel free. 59489

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