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We're here.
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Tomorrow we start.
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Are we ready?
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As ready as we're going to get, I think.
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The DA offered murder, too, this
afternoon, just like we thought he
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he turned it down? Yes.
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Tell me something good, Rebecca.
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I need to hear something good.
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Well, it won't be long till we know
what's going to happen.
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That's good.
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My sister came to visit.
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She doesn't want to get up there.
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Can they make her? She doesn't want to.
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Unfortunately, siblings can be forced to
testify against each other.
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There's no privilege.
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What if she says she forgets? That won't
do us any good, Jan.
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She has to tell the truth.
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Plus, they already have her statement to
the police.
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We're not trying to hide what happened.
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We just have to explain why.
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Why I killed my mother.
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Yes Tell me something good I need to
hear something good
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You're nervous.
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It has got nothing to do... Rebecca.
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They sell coffee on the way to the
courthouse. They sell it at the
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You'll get your coffee.
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That's not the point.
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What's the point?
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Never mind.
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Ready? All set?
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She just swooped in and chugged it.
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Allergic. And she got upset.
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Angry with Mom.
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And then Mom got defensive. She said she
just remembered that there was
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something about chocolate cake, German
chocolate cake, that she thought it
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be Jan's favorite cake.
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Well, that just spiraled into one of
their fights.
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They started screaming at each other.
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And I couldn't stay and listen to them.
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One of their fights. What were they
fighting about?
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Jan claims that my father sexually
abused her.
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For years.
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She thinks Mom knew and looked the other
way.
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Was it true?
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Did your father sexually abuse your
sister? Objection. Foundation.
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Sustained. Did you ever see your father
abuse her?
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No. Did Jan ever tell you she was being
abused by her father? Not back then.
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Only later.
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A few years ago, after he had already
died.
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Did you believe her?
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Objection relevant.
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Sustained. Did you ever see any evidence
that supported your sister's contention
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that she had been sexually abused?
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No. All right, back to that night.
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What did you do while your mother and
sister were arguing?
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I just left.
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I told them I wouldn't be a part of it.
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I went out to my car and sat there
crying, actually.
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And then what happened?
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I heard screaming.
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I ran inside and I saw the blood all
over the place.
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And I found Jan in the kitchen.
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She couldn't move. She was just sitting
there like in a haze.
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And my mother was lying on the kitchen
floor.
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The knife still in her.
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Jade.
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Jade killed mom.
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Oh, my God.
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It's beautiful.
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You like it? I like it. Lindsay, you're
the most beautiful.
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Oh, my God. No, no, no. Oh,
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I'm so sorry. She's just so beautiful.
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Oh, God.
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You look like a princess.
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When you picked your sister up at the
airport and drove her to your mother's
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house, did she seem different to you in
any way?
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No. And you said the dinner was
uneventful until your mother brought out
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birthday cake?
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Yes. So before the cake was served, it
would have been unthinkable for your
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sister to attack your mother?
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Objection. Sustained.
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Prior to that dinner, had you any reason
to think your sister might be a violent
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person? No.
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Jan's always been a quiet person.
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A gentle person.
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And when you found your sister in the
kitchen, you said she was, quote, in a
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haze. Did you say anything to her?
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Yes, I was screaming at her, asking what
happened.
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Did she respond?
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No, she just sat there like a zombie.
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Like a zombie?
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That's what you were going to say?
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Yes.
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Thank you.
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That's all.
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I thought that went well.
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You did.
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Well, she didn't say anything that
damaging, at least not... Beck, that was
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sister. The jury's gonna go back in that
room and say her own sister testified
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against her.
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Plus, to make insanity, we gotta prove
that she was having a flashback of some
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prior abuse.
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Well, we can't even really seem to prove
the abuse happened in the first place.
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Now, are you ready with the doctor?
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I'm ready.
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It's bad luck for you to see me in it
first.
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But I just want to give you a peek at
the material. It's so great.
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Material of what?
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Isn't it gorgeous?
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That's it.
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What's this?
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My wedding dress.
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You know, things brides wear at the
ceremony.
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Lindsay, I thought you were going to
wear my mother's wedding dress.
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What? We talked about this.
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We talked about me wearing your mother's
wedding dress?
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Yes.
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The very night I proposed, I said you
walked down the aisle wearing my
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wedding dress. I've been saving it.
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I don't remember you saying anything
about Greg. I talked about how beautiful
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is. I don't remember.
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And how great you look in it. Bobby, I
don't remember. How could you not
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remember? I'd just been stabbed, and
then you proposed, and I don't remember
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saying anything about it. Okay, never
mind.
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This is beautiful.
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I'm sure they'll take it back.
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Take it back?
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The detective will be quick.
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Then we'll put up Dr. Starger.
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And then you, Jan.
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Okay.
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Should we go over my testimony again?
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Actually, I would prefer not to. I don't
want you sounding too rehearsed.
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But Jan, you have to tell your story.
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No matter how painful it is.
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If you close down up there, we're in
trouble.
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Okay.
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It's going well so far, right?
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It's going well.
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It's a little too soon to tell.
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Here's mother.
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Yes, he expects me to wear the dress
that she wore. I've seen a picture of
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mother. She was built like a dump truck.
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Helen. You cannot not wear the dress you
had made.
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It's a big deal to him. You know him and
his mother. He gets very emotional.
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Have you seen what she wore? No. I'm
sure it's hideous. All right, let's
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about this.
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He's been saving it since she died.
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Okay, here's how you play it.
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Honey, I'd love to wear your mother's
dress. And when you see it, for whatever
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reason, it just won't work.
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Lie to him? Yes, on this, absolutely.
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See the dress, love it. You'd die to
wear it. But since the last one who did,
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did. Helen, you know what I mean.
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Make the gesture, it'll make him happy.
Then wear the gorgeous one you had made.
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Jan came to see me about two years ago,
just after the death of her father.
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She was feeling sleepy and sad.
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She was having health problems that were
interfering with her work.
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And she also complained about not being
able to keep relationships with men.
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Anything else, doctor?
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Yes. There were periods of time that she
couldn't account for.
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Sometimes minutes, but other times she
lost hours.
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I found her to be suffering from PTSD.
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PTSD.
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Post -traumatic stress disorder.
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Could you tell the jury what that is?
Certainly.
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Basically, it's a complex set of
reactions to a traumatic event. In this
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Jan was experiencing...
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A flashback.
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Flashback? Yes. We see it often in
Vietnam vets, rape victims, plane crash
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survivors. These flashbacks are short
but intense and extremely real to the
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patient. You mean like a hallucination?
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Yes, but even more real.
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It's as if they are living inside of the
memory, like it's happening at that
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very instant.
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And specifically, what memory are we
talking about with Jan?
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Her being sexually abused by her father.
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Did you determine what triggers these
flashbacks with Jan? It could be almost
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anything. A sound, a smell, an
anniversary of the event.
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What about a birthday party? That's
certainly possible.
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Doctor, did you interview Miss Carlson
after she killed her mother?
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Yes. I spent several hours with her.
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Did you form a medical opinion as to
what happened that night?
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Yes, I did.
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Could you state it? In my opinion...
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Jan Carlson experienced a post
-traumatic stress flashback. And while
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living inside of the memory of that
sexual abuse, she lashed out at the one
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person that she then considered to be
her most imminent threat.
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But her mother wasn't the one abusing
her. At that moment, it could have been
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anyone in the room.
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Jan Carlson killed her mother without
even knowing it.
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It's beautiful.
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But it's a little short. I think it's
going to be too short. And what a shame.
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I'm told it can be lengthened no
problem.
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Oh.
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Oh, great.
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Wow.
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Is it from the 1800s? I think it's
Edwardian. Lindsay, you are going to
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so beautiful. And, I mean, I feel like
I'm going to cry just seeing you stand
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next to it.
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Me too.
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You know, I wish I could see it on. I
mean, without having to alter the... I
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mean, it's just so perfect. I would hate
to do anything to it. Lucy, would you
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try this on?
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Over my dead body?
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I mean, Bobby, I wouldn't want to insult
your mother's dead body. Oh, please.
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It'll take you two seconds.
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What's wrong?
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Nothing.
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I'm just so moved.
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You say that in one of these flashbacks,
the person has no control over his or
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her actions.
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No conscious control.
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That's right. Would a person have enough
control over their actions to open a
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cabinet drawer, search for a knife from
among a dozen other kitchen tools, then
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pursue a victim throughout the house?
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Objection. There's been no evidence of
pursuit.
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Objection sustained.
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Can you tell us for a fact that Jan
Carlson experienced one of these
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the night she murdered her mother.
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Objection to the term murder. Murder
involves a culpable state of mind. We're
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drawn. Can you tell us for a fact she
suffered from a flashback the night she
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killed her mother?
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That would be impossible to know.
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Have you ever seen the defendant
experience a flashback?
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No. So for all you actually know, Jan
Carlson may have made up these stories
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about flashbacks and sexual abuse.
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Look, I have been treating her for a
very long time.
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Has she ever offered you any proof that
she was sexually abused by her father?
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A diary, a doctor's note, a police
report, anything.
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I don't cross -examine my patients.
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You took her at her word. I feel that I
can usually tell when a patient is
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feigning their symptoms. You took her at
her word.
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Yes, I did.
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Thank you, Dr. Stocker.
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Don't say a word to me.
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I think you look great.
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Never mind.
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You know, Bobby, it's a beautiful,
beautiful dress. But, you know, it's
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designed to be worn by a shorter person.
I mean, plus, I don't know, I mean, the
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pressure of living up to your mother's
memory. She hates the dress.
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I don't hate it. Why don't you just tell
him? It looks like wallpaper.
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Eleanor! It looks more like a doily to
me. Jimmy!
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You know those things you put on the arm
of the chair.
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Yeah, I know what a doily is, but it
doesn't look like that, Bobby.
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It's beautiful.
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Well, Lindsay, why don't you want to
wear it if we can have it altered?
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She hates it. I don't hate it. Lindsay,
do you hate it?
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Well, I would just rather wear the other
one.
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No, I want you to wear this one.
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With all due respect to your mother, the
decision of what I wear, it really
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should be my decision.
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Lindsay, this is very personal to me. I
get that.
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I really do.
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But a wedding dress, it's very personal
to the bride, too.
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Lindsay, I don't ask for much. One
concession... You don't ask for much?
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You insist on a Catholic wedding.
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I'm Catholic. Well, I'm not. You picked
out where we'd have the reception.
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It's a place near the church. What we'd
eat. You said you didn't care. On the
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dress, I do care. I can't believe you're
doing this.
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Bobby, is this a partnership or do you
just dictate everything? I'm not
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dictating. I'm asking for one damn
thing. This is not one thing. Oh, it's
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typical you'd be so stubborn.
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You have made every decision without
consulting me. Now you're telling me
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have to wear your dead mother's doily?
Well, I'm not.
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I'm wearing the dress that I picked out.
If I have to eat communion, you can
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swallow this.
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Can you describe these flashbacks for
the court?
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Well, the most common one, I'm in my bed
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looking up at the ceiling at where my
mother painted clouds in a
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blue sky.
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And then the door opens quietly and I
know, I know it's my father.
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I keep staring at the clouds, imagining
myself high above everything.
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I don't look down.
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I never look at him.
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But I feel him.
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And then he's inside me.
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And it burns.
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I tell myself to think about the clouds,
think about heaven, how much better
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it'd be up there.
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Then I hear a mother's footsteps
stopping right outside my door.
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I scream, but nothing comes out.
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I try to punch and kick, but my arms and
legs won't move.
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There's nothing I can do.
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And then the footsteps fade away.
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And I'm there, alone with him again.
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Jan, did you hate your mother?
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No.
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I loved her.
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I wanted her to love me, to save me. And
when she didn't?
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I don't know.
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I never wanted to kill her.
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I just wanted her to love me.
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The night your mother was killed, do you
remember anything?
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I remember her bringing out the cake.
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There were candles.
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You don't remember picking up a knife?
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No.
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One second there's a cake.
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The next, she's dying.
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I have no memory of what happened.
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Was there something about the cake that
could have triggered these old memories?
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I hated my birthdays.
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He'd always come in on my birthdays.
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You used to work as a draftsperson.
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for a firm called Madison and Company.
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Yes. And in 1995, you quit.
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Could you tell us why?
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Their office had fluorescent lighting
that gave me migraines, which ultimately
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became incapacitating.
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You spent the next three months working
for the architect Dylan Wolfe.
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Freelance. And according to records
there, you left because you feared
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developing an ulcer.
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I was working 18 hours a day. It was
extremely stressful.
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I was worried about an ulcer.
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And three months ago, you filed a
workman's compensation claim against
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employer, Baxter Design Corporation.
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You couldn't work because you hurt your
arm and shoulder. It's called thoracic
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outlet syndrome. It happens to
architects, too. But in fact, Miss
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were about to be fired by Baxter Design.
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No. You went to three specialists, and
none could find a medical reason for
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pain. Objection. What's the relevance of
this? It goes to pattern. Every time.
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The defendant is held responsible for
her behavior. She develops a mysterious
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medical condition to blame. Objection.
Move to strike that. Get fired from the
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job. Blame thoracic outlet syndrome.
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Murder your mother in cold blood. It's
post -traumatic stress disorder.
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00:20:13,330 --> 00:20:14,830
Objection. Sustained.
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Your mother left an estate valued at $2
.3 million.
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Are you a beneficiary of that
inheritance?
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Yes.
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It's all consistent with abuse of
survivors, ulcers, migraine.
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I say we recall Dr. Starger. It won't
matter. It looks like she's making
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excuses. What about her pediatrician?
Her pediatrician? We've got to show
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occurred. But he never reported
anything.
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Because they didn't in those days. But
there's evidence of symptoms in her
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medical records. Look, she has urinary
infections, weight loss. Those symptoms
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don't conclude abuse. And the
pediatrician will just testify he didn't
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anything to report.
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Excuse me, Miss Washington.
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My name is Stephen Hatfield. I'm
Brianna's husband.
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She's your client's sister?
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00:21:10,460 --> 00:21:11,700
Yes, I know. How can I help you?
343
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,820
Well, I'm not very comfortable coming to
you like this.
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But I understand that Brianna testified
that her father never abused her.
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Yes?
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I believe that to be a lie.
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I don't think it's deliberate.
348
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I think that she's been lying to
herself.
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About her being abused as a child? Yes.
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I knew her, Dad.
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A nicer guy you couldn't want. And I
didn't want to believe Jan's accusations
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00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,440
about the guy.
353
00:21:42,940 --> 00:21:47,420
But it got me thinking about some of the
problems Brianna and I had had.
354
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What kind of problems?
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In the bedroom.
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Every time I would try to bring the
subject up, she'd shut me down.
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00:21:55,580 --> 00:21:58,460
It got to a point where she wouldn't
even let me touch her.
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00:21:59,530 --> 00:22:02,670
Then about six months ago, she filed for
divorce.
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00:22:03,230 --> 00:22:06,570
Mr. Hadfield, there could be a lot of
reasons why you and your wife had sexual
360
00:22:06,570 --> 00:22:07,570
problems. Yes.
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00:22:08,790 --> 00:22:11,750
But she had this reflex to being
touched.
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Sitting in a chair or lying in bed next
to me, if she saw that I was about to
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touch her, she'd be okay.
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Not relaxed, but okay.
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But if I ever... came up on her from
behind or touched her when she didn't
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00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,020
it coming, even a touch on the arm, her
whole body would contract.
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00:22:33,460 --> 00:22:38,400
I always thought it was possible she
might be the victim of some abuse, and I
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00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,700
tried to get her to talk to me about it,
but she wouldn't go there.
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He's lying.
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00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,940
He's trying to get back at me or
something.
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00:22:47,260 --> 00:22:51,540
What motive would he have to make this
up? I don't know, but he's lying. It
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00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:52,540
never happened.
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Brianna. Did it?
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00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:58,840
No, Jan, he's lying.
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Brianna? Jan, you know Stephen.
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He's got to find blame for everything.
377
00:23:03,460 --> 00:23:06,460
It's just his way of saying that the
marriage failed because of me.
378
00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:08,700
You know Stephen.
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00:23:10,980 --> 00:23:14,520
I don't believe her. I believe her, but
maybe she's repressed it.
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00:23:15,300 --> 00:23:18,280
What if you hypnotized her? Could that
bring out... That doesn't sound like she
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wants to be treated, and if so, I
certainly can't force her. But we can
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00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:23,159
her to testify.
383
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,740
Well, what good would that do? She would
just deny it. How convincing did you
384
00:23:25,740 --> 00:23:28,080
just find her? I don't want you to be
brutalizing my sister.
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00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:32,460
Jan, her testimony stands to convict
you. She had to testify. She was
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00:23:32,460 --> 00:23:36,180
subpoenaed. Doesn't matter. What she
said was damaging. Plus, this is no time
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00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:37,960
be protecting her. We gotta recall her.
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00:23:38,260 --> 00:23:39,260
And do what?
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00:23:40,740 --> 00:23:41,740
Whatever we can.
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00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,840
He didn't have to get anti -Catholic. I
wasn't anti -Catholic. I was referring
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to the length of the ceremony, which I
wanted to be sure. Still, you take shots
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00:23:57,060 --> 00:23:58,540
at his mother and his religion?
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00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,900
Don't you have work to do?
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00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:01,780
Why is it no one ever wants my counsel?
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00:24:03,820 --> 00:24:05,160
Lindsay, in my office?
396
00:24:06,060 --> 00:24:07,060
No.
397
00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:09,740
Excuse me?
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00:24:09,820 --> 00:24:10,820
I said no.
399
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,880
This is a personal matter. You don't
order me around on personal matters.
400
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,100
what you need to get, Bobby.
401
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:17,279
Well, you want to...
402
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,460
Talk about a personal matter in front of
everybody else?
403
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,700
No, but I don't want to be ordered.
404
00:24:21,940 --> 00:24:23,800
Why don't we pick a neutral... Stay out
of this.
405
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,460
I'd love to. Tell me where's a good
spot.
406
00:24:26,700 --> 00:24:29,380
Jimmy, shut up. You think you're funny?
Hey, hey, don't jump on him. You stay
407
00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:30,380
out of it too, Eleanor.
408
00:24:30,460 --> 00:24:33,620
Look, we don't want to be in it, so take
this to another room. I tried to. Yeah,
409
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,640
but you ordered her.
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00:24:34,700 --> 00:24:37,440
Quiet! By the way, I'm leaving.
411
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,160
Oh, there's a mature response.
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00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,360
Just... Leave.
413
00:24:46,830 --> 00:24:49,470
Do you know what the expression loss of
consortium means?
414
00:24:50,190 --> 00:24:51,190
I suppose.
415
00:24:52,010 --> 00:24:56,310
Your husband, Stephen Hadfield, claims
your marriage failed because of loss of
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00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:58,810
consortium. You wouldn't have sex with
him.
417
00:24:59,670 --> 00:25:00,670
Is that true?
418
00:25:00,830 --> 00:25:01,830
No, it isn't.
419
00:25:03,370 --> 00:25:07,750
In the three years since your father
died, about how often did you have sex
420
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:08,750
your husband?
421
00:25:09,310 --> 00:25:10,770
Do I have to answer these questions?
422
00:25:11,290 --> 00:25:13,290
I'm sorry, you do. How often?
423
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,820
I don't know, every few weeks.
424
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,660
Objection. I am trying to establish a
history of sexual dysfunction. It isn't
425
00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:22,540
true. I understand you don't want to
believe it. I don't want to believe it,
426
00:25:22,580 --> 00:25:23,860
Counselor, because it isn't true.
427
00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:27,600
Do you consider your sister to be an
honest person, Brianna?
428
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,760
Yeah.
429
00:25:29,940 --> 00:25:30,940
Ever known her to lie?
430
00:25:32,220 --> 00:25:33,640
No, except for this.
431
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,380
This being her claim that she was
sexually abused by your father?
432
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:42,040
Yes. And why would she lie about this? I
have no idea.
433
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:44,390
No motive to your knowledge?
434
00:25:44,770 --> 00:25:47,590
No. Did you ever think, well, maybe it
happened?
435
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:48,990
No.
436
00:25:49,590 --> 00:25:50,590
It ever happened to you?
437
00:25:50,830 --> 00:25:54,290
No. He never opened your door and came
into your room? No, he didn't. He never
438
00:25:54,290 --> 00:25:55,630
crawled into your bed? No.
439
00:25:55,850 --> 00:26:01,190
Because if he did, and you never said
anything, I guess you'd feel a little
440
00:26:01,190 --> 00:26:04,190
responsible for him moving on to your
younger sister. He never did that.
441
00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:06,530
Did what? Come into your room or Jan's?
Either.
442
00:26:06,910 --> 00:26:07,970
It never happened.
443
00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:11,490
You know for a fact it didn't happen
with Jan. Now, how do you know that for
444
00:26:11,490 --> 00:26:13,500
fact? I don't believe that it happened.
445
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:14,539
So it's possible?
446
00:26:14,540 --> 00:26:15,620
No, it's not possible.
447
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,060
So you know for a fact again?
448
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:18,320
I know for a certainty.
449
00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:20,400
And that's different than for a fact?
Your Honor.
450
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,820
All right, Miss DeYoung.
451
00:26:22,340 --> 00:26:26,580
Miss Hatfield, previously you testified
that when your mother and Jan started to
452
00:26:26,580 --> 00:26:27,900
argue, you fled the house.
453
00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:30,700
Why? I just didn't want to hear them
fighting.
454
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,380
So you didn't want to stay in the house
and listen to talk about your father
455
00:26:34,380 --> 00:26:35,780
sexually abusing Jan?
456
00:26:35,980 --> 00:26:36,699
That's right.
457
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:38,460
So you just ran out of the house, didn't
want to deal with it?
458
00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:40,060
No.
459
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:42,060
Do you love your sister Jan?
460
00:26:42,660 --> 00:26:43,700
Of course I do.
461
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:48,340
Somebody you love claims she was
sexually abused and you don't even want
462
00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:49,980
about it. You run from the discussion.
463
00:26:50,500 --> 00:26:53,680
I don't believe she was sexually abused.
464
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,940
Well, did you ever counsel her to get
help?
465
00:26:57,360 --> 00:27:01,700
I mean, if she thinks she was sexually
abused or lies about it, somebody you
466
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:05,120
love, did you ever try to help her or
see that she got help?
467
00:27:09,370 --> 00:27:10,370
No.
468
00:27:12,710 --> 00:27:15,350
Truth is, you didn't want to go near
this subject, did you, Brianna?
469
00:27:15,810 --> 00:27:19,290
You had to run out of this room every
time it happened because he touched you.
470
00:27:19,370 --> 00:27:22,530
No, he didn't. Just like you want to run
out of the room now. He never touched
471
00:27:22,530 --> 00:27:25,590
me. She's on trial for murder here and
you're going to let her go down just
472
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:28,270
you let him go into a room. Stop it. Why
can't you admit it happened?
473
00:27:28,490 --> 00:27:31,790
Why didn't you make him stop? You made
daddy stop. Enough.
474
00:27:32,790 --> 00:27:34,890
I didn't have to feel alone.
475
00:27:35,770 --> 00:27:38,930
You gave your sister to him, Brianna.
No, I didn't. You gave her to him. I
476
00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:41,870
didn't do anything. You let him crawl
into her bed just the way he crawled
477
00:27:41,870 --> 00:27:42,870
yours. Get away from me.
478
00:27:48,170 --> 00:27:49,170
You get away.
479
00:27:54,290 --> 00:27:54,690
Look
480
00:27:54,690 --> 00:28:01,850
at
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00:28:01,850 --> 00:28:02,850
your sister, Brianna.
482
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:13,240
You can't even look at it She needs you
to remember
483
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,760
It's a dress.
484
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,480
Exactly. So what's the big deal about me
wearing it? Well, that's my question.
485
00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:43,820
What's the big deal to you about wearing
it when you know how important it is to
486
00:28:43,820 --> 00:28:48,400
me? Why the hell isn't it important to
you how I feel on my wedding day?
487
00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:52,340
Did you ever stop to consider that,
Bobby, that it's my day, too, or is it
488
00:28:52,340 --> 00:28:54,180
your day, like it's only your marriage?
489
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,780
What's that supposed to mean? It means
that you don't look at this like a
490
00:28:56,780 --> 00:28:59,980
partnership, or if you do, you consider
yourself a senior partner. Well, if it's
491
00:28:59,980 --> 00:29:02,360
going to be that, Bobby... Leslie, what
is wrong with you?
492
00:29:02,730 --> 00:29:05,330
What's wrong with me? Yes, you're acting
like a crazy person.
493
00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:10,250
I mean, is this just stress? Don't lay
this on stress or PMS. Look, I'm just
494
00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:14,150
trying to talk to you and you're
screaming at me. I hate the way you
495
00:29:14,150 --> 00:29:15,150
me.
496
00:29:26,770 --> 00:29:27,870
It came out of trauma.
497
00:29:28,570 --> 00:29:31,090
And that's... I...
498
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:38,080
You're so guarded, so... You keep your
emotions
499
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,960
in a vault.
500
00:29:40,260 --> 00:29:44,160
It took some catastrophe to set them
loose when I got stabbed, but that was
501
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,160
a fluke.
502
00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:50,660
Do I have to get on a deathbed for you
to unlock... Lindsay, what is going on?
503
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,980
When you lost your mother... I don't
know, I mean...
504
00:30:03,530 --> 00:30:05,030
It must have been some kind of pain.
505
00:30:08,610 --> 00:30:12,450
From what I gather, you two...
506
00:30:12,450 --> 00:30:19,310
I don't think you'll ever risk getting
507
00:30:19,310 --> 00:30:23,010
hurt like that again. I don't think
you'll ever let somebody become the
508
00:30:23,010 --> 00:30:24,010
of your life.
509
00:30:26,190 --> 00:30:28,290
You'll lose too much control or
something.
510
00:30:30,170 --> 00:30:31,290
What are you telling me?
511
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:39,900
You don't want a partner. You want an
accessory to complement your life,
512
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:46,960
I
513
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:47,960
don't want in on that.
514
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,300
I don't want to end up marooned on your
island.
515
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,060
Maybe we should call this off.
516
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,140
You don't want to... You don't want to
get married?
517
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,840
No.
518
00:31:25,380 --> 00:31:26,560
Imagine you're nine.
519
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,120
It's your birthday.
520
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,800
And your mother brings out your birthday
cake and tells you to make a wish.
521
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,480
before you blow out the candles.
522
00:31:34,820 --> 00:31:36,820
Do you wish for a new bike?
523
00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:39,580
A doll you saw at a toy store?
524
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,680
Jan Carlson wished her father would stop
forcing her to have sex with him.
525
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,560
She prayed for someone to protect her
from this nightmare.
526
00:31:51,140 --> 00:31:56,120
But not long after she blew out the
birthday candles, her father would creep
527
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,940
into her bedroom with one last gift to
give her.
528
00:32:02,620 --> 00:32:07,320
So, she picks up a knife and murders her
mother.
529
00:32:08,580 --> 00:32:09,620
Not her father.
530
00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:13,740
The one who supposedly committed these
horrific acts. Her mother.
531
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,940
And then trots out, hey, I was abused as
a child.
532
00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:20,000
Post -traumatic stress disorder.
533
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,120
And that's a good one.
534
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,240
We see all kinds of imaginative defenses
these days.
535
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,620
We have rape trauma syndrome.
536
00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:30,800
Battered wives syndrome.
537
00:32:31,420 --> 00:32:34,140
steroid rage, Prozac defense.
538
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:40,320
There are as many disorders as there are
crimes these days, and they all amount
539
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,560
to the same thing, escaping
responsibility.
540
00:32:46,220 --> 00:32:48,440
This isn't something she invented.
541
00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:50,820
You heard the expert medical testimony.
542
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:57,420
Jan Carlson's mind was gone that night.
She was suddenly reliving an awful
543
00:32:57,420 --> 00:32:59,560
memory, a horrible memory.
544
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,120
of sexual abuse.
545
00:33:01,620 --> 00:33:03,120
You listened to Jan.
546
00:33:03,620 --> 00:33:05,960
You listened to Dr. Starger.
547
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:09,760
And you listened to her sister Brianna,
didn't you?
548
00:33:10,460 --> 00:33:14,260
The power of a mind to fight off a
memory.
549
00:33:15,980 --> 00:33:20,600
For three years, Bernard Carlson entered
Jan's room.
550
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,400
For three years, her mother knew and did
nothing.
551
00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:28,900
And on February 9th,
552
00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:35,310
Jan's mind caught in that memory just
snapped.
553
00:33:37,410 --> 00:33:38,410
She snapped.
554
00:33:39,790 --> 00:33:44,470
And after snapping, she stands to
inherit more than a million dollars.
555
00:33:45,070 --> 00:33:48,250
She either did it for the money or she
did it for revenge.
556
00:33:48,770 --> 00:33:50,790
Either way, it's murder one.
557
00:33:55,090 --> 00:33:56,090
Where's Bobby?
558
00:33:56,270 --> 00:33:57,970
He's in his office. Tom, I'm here.
559
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,320
What are you going to do?
560
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,760
Who said it was your business? My
friend, my business. What are you going
561
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,500
Helen, she left me. There's nothing I
can do. Listen to me.
562
00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:16,020
When you and I were dating, I got the
sense that you had it all figured out,
563
00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:21,120
life would be, how it should be. And
when you found somebody who fit nicely
564
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,699
your little life plan, you'd get
married.
565
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,980
Now... I knew I would never be the one
to just fill that slot. Thank you,
566
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:30,820
I'm not interested in... Bobby, would
you listen to me? I might not have
567
00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:32,159
chance to interfere, okay?
568
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,719
Lindsay's not going to slide into any
slot either.
569
00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:38,460
And your life might not fit her any
better than your mother's dress.
570
00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:42,340
But if you love her... Helen, if you
don't let go of me... Bobby, you want to
571
00:34:42,340 --> 00:34:43,340
spend the rest of your life alone?
572
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,340
As much as I love her, she's not the one
I'm worried about.
573
00:34:47,780 --> 00:34:49,139
She's the greatest woman I know.
574
00:34:49,460 --> 00:34:52,340
She'll find somebody probably better
than you.
575
00:34:53,310 --> 00:34:54,149
Thank you.
576
00:34:54,150 --> 00:34:56,409
But you're not going to find anybody
better than her.
577
00:34:57,210 --> 00:34:58,690
I know it and you know it.
578
00:34:59,610 --> 00:35:01,310
Let her be your partner, Bobby.
579
00:35:02,890 --> 00:35:05,090
Not just because it's what she wants.
580
00:35:07,130 --> 00:35:08,130
It's what you need.
581
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:14,430
How much longer?
582
00:35:17,370 --> 00:35:18,370
We don't know.
583
00:35:18,970 --> 00:35:19,970
There's no way of telling.
584
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:24,680
Tell me something good, Rebecca.
585
00:35:25,860 --> 00:35:27,400
I need to hear something good.
586
00:35:44,980 --> 00:35:45,980
I'm sorry.
587
00:35:53,070 --> 00:35:54,750
I'm sorry I made you feel so alone.
588
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:58,030
Do you remember?
589
00:35:59,290 --> 00:36:00,370
I don't know, Jan.
590
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:05,410
But I think I need someone to help me.
591
00:36:07,330 --> 00:36:08,330
You remember.
592
00:36:11,490 --> 00:36:12,530
I'm sorry, Danny.
593
00:36:15,630 --> 00:36:16,630
Jerry's back.
594
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,020
Will the defendant please rise?
595
00:36:34,140 --> 00:36:35,740
Mr. Foreman, have you reached a verdict?
596
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,920
We have, Your Honor.
597
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:39,100
What say you?
598
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:46,540
On the count 4 -2 -1 -1 -3, murder in
the first degree, we, the jury,
599
00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:51,060
find the defendant, Jan Carlson, not
guilty.
600
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,460
On the count 4 -2 -1 -1 -4, murder in
the second degree,
601
00:36:58,250 --> 00:37:03,470
We, the jury, find the defendant, Jan
Carlson, not guilty.
602
00:37:06,830 --> 00:37:08,250
The defendant is released.
603
00:37:08,530 --> 00:37:12,110
The jury is dismissed for the thanks of
the court. We are adjourned.
604
00:37:47,820 --> 00:37:52,460
I haven't totally figured out how to let
people in my life.
605
00:37:54,980 --> 00:38:01,760
Everything you said, the things you
fear, probably
606
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:02,760
all true.
607
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:11,500
But this idea that I don't want to share
my life, that I don't
608
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:15,300
want a partner, that I reject.
609
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:29,090
Whatever I have to do to convince you of
that.
610
00:38:32,350 --> 00:38:39,250
To earn the right to go on loving you
for the
611
00:38:39,250 --> 00:38:40,250
rest of my life.
612
00:38:43,730 --> 00:38:44,730
I'll do it.
613
00:38:56,110 --> 00:38:56,830
Marry me
614
00:38:56,830 --> 00:39:06,150
I
615
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:12,950
won't wear
616
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:13,950
that dress
617
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:28,760
have to let me in.
618
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:15,820
What happened?
619
00:40:19,940 --> 00:40:23,780
They picked up some food for dinner.
Brianna came out of the restaurant,
620
00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:29,200
walking to the car, and she says she saw
her father and just gunned the
621
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,200
accelerator.
622
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,540
Ten people witnessed it.
623
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,040
She ran over Brianna.
624
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:38,700
Congratulations.
625
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,000
She really does have a disorder.
626
00:40:42,260 --> 00:40:43,280
You got her off.
627
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,520
You couldn't have got her to smell.
628
00:41:07,950 --> 00:41:09,350
Jan? I don't remember.
629
00:41:11,290 --> 00:41:15,870
I saw him. Is it really Bree?
630
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:21,470
Yeah.
631
00:41:23,810 --> 00:41:24,850
Is she going to be okay?
632
00:41:26,130 --> 00:41:27,150
She's going to be okay, right?
633
00:41:31,730 --> 00:41:32,990
Tell me something good, Rebecca.
634
00:41:34,170 --> 00:41:35,590
I need to hear something good.
635
00:41:39,850 --> 00:41:40,850
Tell me something good.
636
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:44,330
Tell me something good.
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