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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,520 Previously on The Practice. What's going on? 2 00:00:02,820 --> 00:00:04,080 Uh, dancing lessons. 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,260 He wants to learn and I figure it's a good way to get some extra time with 4 00:00:08,340 --> 00:00:11,840 You said you'd teach him. I know, but it's just... For what? He's loving it. 5 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:14,720 He kind of got excited. 6 00:00:16,379 --> 00:00:17,380 He's barely 11. 7 00:00:18,140 --> 00:00:19,440 Man, that Lucy is hot. 8 00:00:19,780 --> 00:00:21,820 Kendall, she's a lot older than you. 9 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:23,080 I think she likes me. 10 00:00:24,010 --> 00:00:25,870 This law firm doesn't advertise. 11 00:00:26,090 --> 00:00:27,330 Lots of lawyers do commercials. 12 00:00:27,670 --> 00:00:28,670 Yeah, the shysters. 13 00:00:28,830 --> 00:00:30,950 Think nobody will fight for you. You're just a grunt. 14 00:00:31,290 --> 00:00:32,290 I'm a grunt. 15 00:00:32,390 --> 00:00:33,570 Just dial the number. 16 00:00:34,470 --> 00:00:35,690 555 -GRUNT. 17 00:00:36,190 --> 00:00:37,190 And ask for Jimmy. 18 00:00:37,870 --> 00:00:38,870 I'll get your money. 19 00:00:39,890 --> 00:00:44,370 Well, I think this advertisement makes the point. Jimmy the Grunt is a lawyer 20 00:00:44,370 --> 00:00:47,850 who will push forward with anything. And he continues to do so today by 21 00:00:47,850 --> 00:00:50,330 prosecuting a claim he knows he can't make. 22 00:00:50,530 --> 00:00:52,510 You don't know what I can or can't make. 23 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,260 Jimmy, can I get you anything else? 24 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,780 Ginger ale's supposed to be good. 25 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,640 He's puking. 26 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:07,020 Jimmy? Out of the second. 27 00:01:07,820 --> 00:01:09,500 Bobby, he can't go into trial thick. 28 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,160 That just means he's ready. 29 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,940 It happens to him on the big cases. He puked before the power lines case. He 30 00:01:15,940 --> 00:01:17,640 puked before going up against Tommy Silva. 31 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,660 Those were his best trials. 32 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:21,300 The gun case? 33 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:23,920 We should all be nauseous. We're going into a case we can't win. 34 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,160 Can too. 35 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,080 What's going on? 36 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,860 Jimmy's puking. How are we doing on Robertson? 37 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:30,960 Pushed. They bought time for the pre -try. 38 00:01:31,580 --> 00:01:32,580 My backpack. 39 00:01:32,620 --> 00:01:33,179 What's that? 40 00:01:33,180 --> 00:01:35,840 I think you should take one last shot at a continuance. We'll never get a 41 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,560 continuance. You might, Jimmy. It's worth a try. 42 00:01:37,860 --> 00:01:40,880 There's talk that the manufacturers aren't coming clean discovery -wise. 43 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,340 not going to get a last -second continuance, Eleanor. Look, the defense 44 00:01:44,340 --> 00:01:48,020 hurry. They may want to delay it. The defense is thrilled to go now. We don't 45 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:50,380 have a case. Stop saying that. Earth to Jimmy. 46 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,840 Causation. This is the time to be trying this case. The gun industry is ripe to 47 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:55,840 get smacked. 48 00:01:55,900 --> 00:01:57,360 Timing's everything, and I... 49 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:07,820 He's 50 00:02:07,820 --> 00:02:08,820 really right. 51 00:02:59,790 --> 00:03:01,350 We haven't even gone over my testimony. 52 00:03:01,670 --> 00:03:04,590 I don't want to go over it. I don't want it sounding rehearsed. 53 00:03:04,870 --> 00:03:06,210 You just tell your story. 54 00:03:06,510 --> 00:03:07,510 And then me. 55 00:03:08,170 --> 00:03:09,890 You, I'm holding back for now. 56 00:03:10,830 --> 00:03:11,830 Let's go. 57 00:03:14,110 --> 00:03:15,270 Donald Young, Dolan Fright. 58 00:03:16,170 --> 00:03:17,170 Yeah, one second. 59 00:03:18,010 --> 00:03:19,010 It's your ex -wife. 60 00:03:19,630 --> 00:03:20,630 Sounds pretty upset. 61 00:03:26,810 --> 00:03:27,810 Sharon? 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,560 What? 63 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:32,500 Where is he? 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,640 Okay, I'll meet you down there. 65 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,040 What's wrong? 66 00:03:46,380 --> 00:03:47,380 Dad! 67 00:03:55,020 --> 00:03:58,300 How did they get in your locker? I don't know. I swear to God. 68 00:03:58,670 --> 00:04:00,730 The principal says he got a phone tip from a parent. 69 00:04:00,970 --> 00:04:01,970 Something about you dealing? 70 00:04:02,190 --> 00:04:03,290 You know anything about that? 71 00:04:03,670 --> 00:04:04,970 Wasn't dealing? That's a lie. 72 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:07,570 Were they your drugs? No. 73 00:04:09,610 --> 00:04:10,610 Come on, Dad. 74 00:04:10,930 --> 00:04:13,650 Then why were they in your locker? How many times are you going to make him 75 00:04:13,650 --> 00:04:15,710 answer that question? You see me talking to my son? 76 00:04:16,529 --> 00:04:17,670 I just want to go home. 77 00:04:18,230 --> 00:04:20,570 Well, they're getting the papers ready. But you need to think. 78 00:04:20,790 --> 00:04:21,970 It was your locker. 79 00:04:22,830 --> 00:04:24,290 I don't know. Maybe I was set up. 80 00:04:24,630 --> 00:04:25,429 Set up? 81 00:04:25,430 --> 00:04:27,430 By who? I don't know. Kids. Police. 82 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,000 Like they did Eleanor. 83 00:04:31,340 --> 00:04:33,480 I swear to God those drugs weren't mine. 84 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:39,920 We were out having dinner. 85 00:04:40,940 --> 00:04:41,940 Celebrating. 86 00:04:42,580 --> 00:04:44,720 Lisa had just been accepted to Emerson. 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:46,960 And what happened? 88 00:04:47,700 --> 00:04:49,520 All of a sudden there was screaming. 89 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,460 We looked around and there were three men standing there waving guns. 90 00:04:55,470 --> 00:04:57,550 It seemed like a holdup of some sort. 91 00:04:58,350 --> 00:05:01,890 There was one guy just shooting everywhere. 92 00:05:02,750 --> 00:05:03,890 And there was yelling. 93 00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:06,270 And we went to the floor. 94 00:05:08,130 --> 00:05:10,770 And then they were gone. It all happened so fast. 95 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:14,690 And as I climbed up, I looked to Lisa. 96 00:05:15,230 --> 00:05:19,770 And she wasn't moving. She was just laying there. 97 00:05:21,290 --> 00:05:24,270 And I knew she had been hit. 98 00:05:26,860 --> 00:05:28,880 And I went to try and shake her awake. 99 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:36,260 And she wouldn't wake. 100 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,220 She was dead. 101 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,980 First, let me say how sorry I am for your loss, Mrs. Kimbrough. 102 00:05:51,660 --> 00:05:52,660 Yes. 103 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Mrs. Kimbrough, you're not alleging any design defect. 104 00:05:56,730 --> 00:05:58,770 in the guns Pearson Heron manufactures. 105 00:05:59,170 --> 00:06:03,210 I think any time a gun is designed as an assault weapon, there's some kind of 106 00:06:03,210 --> 00:06:04,149 defect somewhere. 107 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:08,130 Yes, but this isn't about a safety feature or product. No, it's about you 108 00:06:08,130 --> 00:06:10,030 putting these things into the hands of killers. 109 00:06:10,270 --> 00:06:11,149 Move the strike. 110 00:06:11,150 --> 00:06:12,150 Sustained. 111 00:06:12,450 --> 00:06:14,870 Just answer the questions he asks, ma 'am. 112 00:06:15,550 --> 00:06:18,950 Do you know of any technology employed by... Objection. 113 00:06:19,310 --> 00:06:20,990 This isn't about technology. 114 00:06:21,290 --> 00:06:24,690 Can I ask my questions? You can ask questions that are relevant to the cause 115 00:06:24,690 --> 00:06:25,690 action. All right. 116 00:06:26,410 --> 00:06:27,810 The objection is sustained. 117 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:32,970 The issue here concerns advertising and marketing, Mr. Lawrence, and only that. 118 00:06:34,050 --> 00:06:38,390 Mrs. Kimbrough, do you have any knowledge that the person who shot and 119 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:41,450 your daughter read any advertising relating to my client's guns? 120 00:06:41,850 --> 00:06:45,570 I have no specific knowledge, no. In fact, you don't even know how Mr. Brown 121 00:06:45,570 --> 00:06:46,570 this gun, do you? 122 00:06:47,150 --> 00:06:48,150 No, I do not. 123 00:06:50,610 --> 00:06:51,950 Thank you, Mrs. Kimbrough. 124 00:06:52,290 --> 00:06:53,290 That's all. 125 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:00,920 I think it went good. 126 00:07:01,140 --> 00:07:02,019 You think? 127 00:07:02,020 --> 00:07:04,400 Yes, but that's the easy part. Now we've got to prove liability. 128 00:07:04,940 --> 00:07:08,160 I also think we should take a quick shot at settling. Clients don't want to 129 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,040 settle. They're saying that because they think we have a chance of winning. 130 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,360 Which we do. Jimmy, we do not want to go to verdict on this. 131 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Hi. 132 00:07:16,260 --> 00:07:17,260 Hi. 133 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:18,540 Ready? All set. 134 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,660 Listen, we talked before about your demeanor saying neutral. 135 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,400 Yes. Forget it. We want you to come on strong. 136 00:07:24,900 --> 00:07:26,740 Really? I think we should lead it with outrage. 137 00:07:27,100 --> 00:07:29,040 Emotions are strength here. We can't back off it. 138 00:07:29,420 --> 00:07:30,379 Can you come on strong? 139 00:07:30,380 --> 00:07:31,380 Are you kidding? 140 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:32,820 Don't overdo it. Just strong. 141 00:07:34,700 --> 00:07:36,100 Go on in. We'll meet you. 142 00:07:36,580 --> 00:07:37,580 Okay. 143 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,940 I don't disagree with him coming on strong, Lizzie. But since I'm first 144 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,100 let's run it by me first. 145 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,560 He's going to take the stand in like five minutes. There's not that much 146 00:07:48,580 --> 00:07:49,580 We'll make the time. 147 00:07:54,380 --> 00:07:57,320 The principal found drugs in his locker. He was booked on possession with 148 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,220 intent. He doesn't know how he ended up there. 149 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:02,220 You believe him? I got to, don't I? 150 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,840 Okay, let me talk to the principal. Maybe we can suppress the search. Look, 151 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:11,020 an 11 -year -old kid. What the hell is he... This ain't my kid, Bobby. Now, I 152 00:08:11,020 --> 00:08:17,880 know he wouldn't do this kind of... Maybe... Maybe we could steal this to 153 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Eugene, I'm doing this. Look, no, I can handle this. I'm doing it. We'll take 154 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,480 Eleanor with us, too. 155 00:08:33,230 --> 00:08:35,970 If I have to go into the favor bank, I will. 156 00:08:37,530 --> 00:08:38,570 We'll take care of this. 157 00:08:41,390 --> 00:08:42,390 Thank you. 158 00:08:53,170 --> 00:08:55,630 How long have you worked for the Boston Firearm Project? 159 00:08:55,930 --> 00:08:56,930 Four and a half years. 160 00:08:57,130 --> 00:09:00,050 And before that? I was a detective with the Boston Police Department. 161 00:09:01,070 --> 00:09:04,830 You're familiar, sir, with the gun used in the shooting death of Lisa Kimbrough. 162 00:09:04,990 --> 00:09:05,990 I am. 163 00:09:06,530 --> 00:09:07,650 Could you describe it? 164 00:09:08,530 --> 00:09:12,110 It's a semi -automatic assault weapon known as the TAC -10. 165 00:09:12,370 --> 00:09:13,370 Pretty serious thing. 166 00:09:13,710 --> 00:09:14,910 It's a military weapon. 167 00:09:15,170 --> 00:09:16,670 Did you say commercially available? 168 00:09:17,150 --> 00:09:18,270 People can buy these? 169 00:09:18,690 --> 00:09:19,690 Oh, yes. 170 00:09:19,770 --> 00:09:23,750 In your experience as a member of the Boston Firearm Project and as a member 171 00:09:23,750 --> 00:09:27,890 the Boston Police Force, does it surprise you that this weapon would be 172 00:09:27,890 --> 00:09:28,890 a man like Ray Brown? 173 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:33,460 A person with a felony record? In my experience, this man represents their 174 00:09:33,460 --> 00:09:34,460 market. 175 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,260 Objection. There's no foundation for that, and this witness knows it. Are you 176 00:09:37,260 --> 00:09:40,320 going to tell me what I know, counsel? All right. The objection is overruled. 177 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:43,760 That's a pretty strong statement, Mr. Marshall. 178 00:09:45,660 --> 00:09:47,960 This thing isn't for self -defense. 179 00:09:48,820 --> 00:09:50,260 It isn't to shoot skeet. 180 00:09:50,620 --> 00:09:51,620 It isn't to hunt. 181 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:58,220 Its design is to spray fire, which means that you sweep it from side to side. 182 00:09:58,890 --> 00:10:01,870 It goes against the way most people shoot in a self -defense situation. 183 00:10:02,850 --> 00:10:05,030 This is an offensive weapon. 184 00:10:05,970 --> 00:10:08,730 Ever heard of survivalists, Mr. Marshall? 185 00:10:09,290 --> 00:10:11,790 Yes, but survivalists... Might a survivalist buy this type of gun? 186 00:10:12,570 --> 00:10:15,950 He might, but survivalists... Ever hear the term plinking, Mr. Marshall? Oh, 187 00:10:15,950 --> 00:10:17,730 please, you're going to tell me that this... Plinking, sir. 188 00:10:19,170 --> 00:10:20,690 Yes. What is it? 189 00:10:21,510 --> 00:10:22,670 Shooting at cans and bottles. 190 00:10:22,990 --> 00:10:26,390 It's a recreational use for the TAC -10, isn't it? 191 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:29,620 The TAC -10 is designed to kill people. Objection. Move to strike. Water 192 00:10:29,620 --> 00:10:33,460 bottles. Sustained. There are uses for this gun other than holding up a 193 00:10:33,460 --> 00:10:36,840 convenience store, aren't there, Mr. Marshall? This gun is designed to kill. 194 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,960 Assault the people who want to kill. Move to strike. All right. 195 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:45,940 Is it your testimony before this court that only criminals buy this weapon? Is 196 00:10:45,940 --> 00:10:46,859 that your testimony? 197 00:10:46,860 --> 00:10:47,860 No. 198 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,080 Thank you. 199 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,500 And do you think a law -abiding citizen should be allowed to purchase this 200 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:55,040 weapon? No, I don't. 201 00:10:55,590 --> 00:10:56,590 Thank you, sir. 202 00:10:57,630 --> 00:10:59,870 I think we all know exactly where you stand. 203 00:11:11,490 --> 00:11:12,490 They were in here. 204 00:11:14,170 --> 00:11:15,350 Seven bags of marijuana. 205 00:11:16,670 --> 00:11:18,330 Frankly, it surprised me, Mr. Young. 206 00:11:18,710 --> 00:11:20,470 Kendall isn't one of our problem students. 207 00:11:20,940 --> 00:11:24,760 The incident report says that you received a phone tip from a parent, but 208 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,000 doesn't say who the parent was. 209 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,640 District policy is to keep that kind of information confidential. 210 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,980 What kind of Gestapo policy is that? 211 00:11:33,340 --> 00:11:37,220 I start naming names, and it discourages people from coming forward. 212 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,040 I've confiscated two guns this year. 213 00:11:40,940 --> 00:11:42,380 Nobody wants to be a target. 214 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,920 I understand your concern, but my son said he was set up, and you relied on a 215 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:47,879 phone tip. 216 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,400 Now, how do you know the person on the other line was a parent? 217 00:11:50,750 --> 00:11:54,450 I recognize the name, and I recognize a parent when I hear one. We have to know 218 00:11:54,450 --> 00:11:58,670 who the accuser is. Otherwise... I'm sorry. Ms. Richwood, you know we can 219 00:11:58,670 --> 00:11:59,710 subpoena this information. 220 00:12:01,650 --> 00:12:02,770 Let's just save some time. 221 00:12:07,670 --> 00:12:09,650 They're in the business of supplying criminals. 222 00:12:09,950 --> 00:12:10,889 The defendant. 223 00:12:10,890 --> 00:12:13,750 The defendant, as well as many other major gun manufacturers. 224 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,060 But, Mr. Hedberg, a person can't just walk into a store and buy a gun. There 225 00:12:18,060 --> 00:12:19,520 background checks, waiting periods. 226 00:12:19,820 --> 00:12:21,440 Yes, that all sounds good. 227 00:12:21,820 --> 00:12:25,580 But our studies have found that straw buyers go into these dealerships, buy 228 00:12:25,580 --> 00:12:27,840 guns, and immediately put them into a black market. 229 00:12:28,140 --> 00:12:31,300 That's where the gangs get a hold of them as well as other people who can't 230 00:12:31,300 --> 00:12:34,240 legally buy them on their own. But wouldn't that be the dealer's fault? 231 00:12:34,460 --> 00:12:35,700 How do you blame the manufacturers? 232 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,480 I blame them because they turn a blind eye to it. They know where these guns 233 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,700 headed. That, to me, makes them complicit. 234 00:12:43,470 --> 00:12:47,510 You have no direct evidence that my client's company knows what the 235 00:12:47,510 --> 00:12:51,190 do. How could they not know? These guns are used... It's a guess on your part, 236 00:12:51,270 --> 00:12:54,670 right, Mr. Hedberg? You have no specific information as to what my client knows. 237 00:12:54,910 --> 00:12:59,850 This is your opinion. The fact is that one buyer with a clean record can walk 238 00:12:59,850 --> 00:13:01,850 into a store and buy a hundred assault weapons. 239 00:13:02,370 --> 00:13:05,950 My opinion is that he doesn't want all these guns for himself. 240 00:13:06,290 --> 00:13:10,630 My guess... is that the dealers and the manufacturers take the money and wink. 241 00:13:10,850 --> 00:13:13,890 You work for an anti -gun research foundation, don't you, sir? 242 00:13:14,090 --> 00:13:17,970 Yes. And you have no actual knowledge as to my clients' marketing strategies, do 243 00:13:17,970 --> 00:13:18,489 you, sir? 244 00:13:18,490 --> 00:13:21,630 No actual knowledge. They do an excellent job of keeping that secret. 245 00:13:22,070 --> 00:13:24,030 Lucky we have you to just fill in the blanks. 246 00:13:24,510 --> 00:13:29,930 Objection. Sustained. These opinions you have, do you try to pass them off as 247 00:13:29,930 --> 00:13:31,010 data in your studies? 248 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,280 All of our conclusions are suggested quite persuasively by the data, Mr. 249 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,760 Lawrence. As you work for an anti -gun project, is it just possible that the 250 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,620 conclusions came before the data? 251 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,460 No. No. 252 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:45,680 Now there's a truthful response. 253 00:13:46,420 --> 00:13:47,900 Objection. Sustained. 254 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:49,560 He hung tough. 255 00:13:49,900 --> 00:13:51,100 I think he did damage. 256 00:13:51,340 --> 00:13:55,080 I think so, too. A case like this represents the perversity of a legal 257 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,120 gone amok. 258 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,940 Here we have a cause, coupled with an attorney of questionable character, such 259 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:05,360 as Mr. Berluti, who conspires to go out and seek out a victim. Any victim he can 260 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,080 saddle up and ride in this liberal jurisdiction of Massachusetts. She 261 00:14:09,140 --> 00:14:11,060 you know that? Go shoot somebody and smile! 262 00:14:11,420 --> 00:14:15,340 Just heard from the ambulance chasing sector of the... Ambulance is filled 263 00:14:15,340 --> 00:14:18,960 gunshot victims! This is an attorney who advertised on television, billing 264 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,000 himself as Jimmy the Grunt. This is a man who capitalizes on people's personal 265 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,780 pain on a contingency. 266 00:14:28,340 --> 00:14:29,340 Mrs. Baker? 267 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,160 I'm Eugene Young. This is Bobby Donald. 268 00:14:32,380 --> 00:14:33,760 I'm Kendall Young's father. 269 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:35,600 We're both attorneys at law. 270 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:37,960 What do you want? 271 00:14:38,180 --> 00:14:39,720 We just have a couple of questions. 272 00:14:40,220 --> 00:14:41,220 It'll only take a minute. 273 00:14:44,020 --> 00:14:45,020 Come in. 274 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,620 Michael, take Kevin and go to your room, please. 275 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:52,760 Now! 276 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,060 I know what this is about. 277 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,080 So you made the call? 278 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,480 Yes. 279 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,620 My son says he was set up. 280 00:15:08,060 --> 00:15:09,780 Is that what you told him to say? 281 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,120 Excuse me? I'm sorry, Mrs. Baker, but somehow we've gotten off on the wrong 282 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,400 foot. All we're trying to ascertain here is why you made the call. 283 00:15:19,220 --> 00:15:20,220 Kendall's dealing drugs. 284 00:15:20,460 --> 00:15:22,240 He tried to get Michael to do the same. 285 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:23,580 I don't believe that. 286 00:15:23,820 --> 00:15:24,820 Believe it. 287 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,480 Do you know my son? 288 00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:29,860 If you knew my son, you'd know that's just not possible. 289 00:15:32,940 --> 00:15:34,100 Do you like my clock? 290 00:15:35,820 --> 00:15:37,440 It has a tiny camera in it. 291 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,880 A nanny cam. 292 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,860 I figure with what you hear in the news, you can't be too careful. 293 00:15:42,820 --> 00:15:48,400 Two nights ago, I come home, and I find it on the machine. 294 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,480 We can make some money. 295 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:51,760 When are you going to get it? 296 00:15:52,020 --> 00:15:54,100 I'll meet him at 4 .30. He's going to give me eight bags. 297 00:15:55,180 --> 00:15:58,480 You heard Brian Armstrong got committed to DYS. He's 14. 298 00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:59,760 We're 11. 299 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,880 Julie. Big difference, especially if you deal more than 1 ,000 feet away from 300 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:04,859 the school. 301 00:16:04,860 --> 00:16:07,120 The park's better. We don't need to be 100 feet away. 302 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:08,800 What if I get busted? 303 00:16:09,540 --> 00:16:13,460 My dad says if you get caught, never admit to anything, even to your lawyer, 304 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,160 because they'll be stuck with you for every time. 305 00:16:25,940 --> 00:16:26,940 135? 306 00:16:27,460 --> 00:16:28,660 No admission of liability. 307 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:30,880 I think we can push them to 150. 308 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,040 But they don't even admit to blame. 309 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,560 No, but the fact that they're paying money, people can infer blame. 310 00:16:37,980 --> 00:16:42,160 We think we should accept the kid who shot your daughter. 311 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,540 We got no evidence as to how he got the gun, whether there was any connection to 312 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:48,920 how it was marketed. I'm sorry. 313 00:16:49,900 --> 00:16:54,420 Mr. Belluti, when you agreed to represent us, you stressed that this was 314 00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:55,420 money. 315 00:16:55,540 --> 00:16:58,680 And I know that your contingency is hanging on... 316 00:17:00,750 --> 00:17:03,830 What we really want is a verdict. 317 00:17:08,470 --> 00:17:10,150 I don't think you'll get it. 318 00:17:11,150 --> 00:17:18,010 I know this seems very selfish of us, but we can't settle out on Lisa's death. 319 00:17:18,290 --> 00:17:24,329 I mean... What we want to try to do is 320 00:17:24,329 --> 00:17:26,970 affect the way they do their business. 321 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,040 A hundred and fifty isn't even a pinch to them. 322 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,500 We're not going to affect the way these people do business, Mrs. Kimbrough. 323 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,600 We don't have any money now, but I am willing to pay you by the hour so that 324 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,600 don't lose out. 325 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,160 That's not an issue. 326 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,520 If you want to keep going, then we'll keep going. 327 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:07,560 They can search you without a warrant? Don't worry about they. They are the 328 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,800 least of your concerns right now. Worry about me. 329 00:18:10,420 --> 00:18:11,660 Now, why are you selling drugs? 330 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,039 Answer me! 331 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,060 Eugene. He's dealing. I can't believe you'd be so stupid. If you would stop 332 00:18:17,060 --> 00:18:21,660 yelling at him. I'm not protecting him. I want to hear what the boy has to say. 333 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,540 I'm sorry, but... But what? 334 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,260 It's just marijuana. It's like selling beer. 335 00:18:33,540 --> 00:18:35,180 Oh. That's a good response. 336 00:18:36,020 --> 00:18:37,180 Aren't you glad you heard that? 337 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,220 Kendall, do you smoke pot and drink beer? 338 00:18:47,020 --> 00:18:48,020 No. 339 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,980 I just thought I could make some money. I don't do that stuff, I swear. 340 00:18:52,260 --> 00:18:54,080 Like you swore those drugs weren't yours. 341 00:18:54,460 --> 00:18:56,960 Technically, they weren't mine. I got them on consignment. 342 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,520 What? How do you know a word like that? And who gave them to you? 343 00:19:02,660 --> 00:19:03,660 Boy. 344 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:07,090 Who gave you the drugs? 345 00:19:09,050 --> 00:19:11,390 It goes by Robbie G. I don't know his full name. 346 00:19:13,250 --> 00:19:14,250 Robbie G. 347 00:19:15,650 --> 00:19:16,650 You know him? 348 00:19:16,970 --> 00:19:18,170 I don't know. Maybe. 349 00:19:18,410 --> 00:19:21,910 Either you do or you don't. He might work for a client of mine. I'm not sure. 350 00:19:23,570 --> 00:19:28,410 That night, father and son both worked for the same guy. 351 00:19:31,710 --> 00:19:33,610 I always make this mistake. 352 00:19:34,220 --> 00:19:38,580 I buy a new pair of shoes for trial, they're not broken in, and I get a 353 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,040 Try mine. 354 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,840 You're still chasing the goats of Jimmy the Grunt, aren't you? 355 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,020 He tried to stop me from making that commercial. 356 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,280 I remember. 357 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:51,080 Serves me right. 358 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,260 Jimmy, you've come a long way from Jimmy the Grunt. 359 00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:56,200 Look, we even have an offer here, which is a miracle. 360 00:19:57,540 --> 00:20:02,040 How come with the tobacco company you were like Don Quixote, but here... 361 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,980 We had a much better case against the tobacco company. 362 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,860 And you know how people love guns. 363 00:20:09,180 --> 00:20:12,160 But don't you agree that these companies are supplying criminals? 364 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,560 Yes. 365 00:20:14,860 --> 00:20:16,420 But... But what? 366 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,520 Working late here with the crazy loons we represent. 367 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,700 I don't want gang members getting hold of guns like these. 368 00:20:42,820 --> 00:20:43,820 I don't. 369 00:20:47,380 --> 00:20:48,680 But I'm glad I got mine. 370 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,040 Ready? 371 00:21:04,780 --> 00:21:05,780 I think. 372 00:21:06,820 --> 00:21:08,540 The key is not to try to pin him. 373 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,260 He testifies in all their trials. He's like a professional witness now. 374 00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:16,260 But I gotta go hard, don't I? For him, I'd keep it under control. 375 00:21:17,340 --> 00:21:20,300 Plus, don't press for answers. Do your damage with the questions and then cut 376 00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:20,939 them off. 377 00:21:20,940 --> 00:21:23,220 You have to cut off the responses. He's persuasive. 378 00:21:23,580 --> 00:21:25,620 Stick to yes and no as much as you can. 379 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Okay. Oh, you have some ink on your face. 380 00:21:32,020 --> 00:21:33,780 It seems they can search the locker. 381 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:36,850 Without a warrant? Comes down to reasonable suspicion. 382 00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:39,970 Which they didn't necessarily have. The informant has to be reliable. 383 00:21:40,270 --> 00:21:42,030 The tip didn't come from a snitch, Rebecca. 384 00:21:42,250 --> 00:21:43,550 It came from some kid's parent. 385 00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:47,430 But there's no evidence the principal knew the parent, which means she has no 386 00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:48,990 basis to determine his reliability. 387 00:21:49,570 --> 00:21:53,390 Also, on the tape, Kendall said that it was bad to have drugs near the school. 388 00:21:53,490 --> 00:21:57,030 That would go against suspicion of a locker. The tape isn't relevant to 389 00:21:57,030 --> 00:22:01,210 cause. The principal didn't even know about the tape when she okayed the 390 00:22:01,290 --> 00:22:04,290 She was just acting on what the parents said. And she didn't know the parents. 391 00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:05,950 Which means they wobble on reliability. 392 00:22:06,210 --> 00:22:07,330 I think Rebecca's right. 393 00:22:07,530 --> 00:22:08,630 We could shut this down. 394 00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:10,430 All right, the DA is Steve Bennett. 395 00:22:10,650 --> 00:22:13,050 Helen agreed to talk to him. I'm on my way to see her. 396 00:22:14,370 --> 00:22:15,370 I'm coming with you. 397 00:22:16,610 --> 00:22:17,610 No, you're not. 398 00:22:17,710 --> 00:22:19,350 I'll have a better chance without you there. 399 00:22:22,970 --> 00:22:26,650 The idea that we market to criminals is an absolute lie. 400 00:22:27,470 --> 00:22:29,570 Your ads do show young men with guns. 401 00:22:29,790 --> 00:22:31,070 As do ads for trucks. 402 00:22:31,330 --> 00:22:33,090 We shoot for a rugged demographic. 403 00:22:33,570 --> 00:22:38,910 To say that means criminal is irresponsible, if not repugnant. Okay, 404 00:22:38,970 --> 00:22:43,070 Hyde, you don't deny sometimes your company's products fall into the hands 405 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:44,870 people who use them for criminal purposes. 406 00:22:45,410 --> 00:22:50,450 Look, we comply with every federal and state safety regulation, every 407 00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:51,770 distribution regulation. 408 00:22:52,410 --> 00:22:53,650 What more can we do? 409 00:22:54,030 --> 00:22:57,890 This is the equivalent of holding Ford Motor Company liable because somebody 410 00:22:57,890 --> 00:23:00,210 buys one of their Broncos and runs over people. 411 00:23:00,430 --> 00:23:05,550 I guess their argument would be it's more foreseeable that a gun would end up 412 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:08,430 the wrong hands than a Bronco. And I don't dispute that. 413 00:23:08,770 --> 00:23:13,490 But nor can we control the chain of custody of our product after we sell it. 414 00:23:13,770 --> 00:23:16,050 A lot of these guns used in crimes are stolen. 415 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,400 You're familiar with recent studies showing that almost half the handguns 416 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,100 in crimes are legally bought from licensed dealers. 417 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,740 Well, I'm aware of the studies. I don't agree with the data. 418 00:23:28,020 --> 00:23:31,900 You're aware that these studies show these guns are bought by straw purchases 419 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:34,280 for people who can't legally buy them. 420 00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:37,840 Objection. He's trying to introduce studies and research as evidence. 421 00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:43,480 Sustained. The jury will disregard it. Mr. Berluti, that's enough. 422 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,220 This your ad for the TAC -10? 423 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,040 Yes. 424 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,040 There's no question before you, sir. 425 00:23:57,540 --> 00:24:01,600 Is it your testimony that you do not try to advertise to people who might use 426 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,060 your guns for criminal purposes? 427 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:04,700 That is my testimony. 428 00:24:06,340 --> 00:24:09,100 Referring to an advertisement running in this month's Soldier of Fortune 429 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:13,440 magazine, talking about the TAC -10, does it represent the weapon to have 430 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,060 excellent resistance to fingerprints? 431 00:24:15,690 --> 00:24:18,950 There's a context. It's a yes or no question, sir. Does the advertisement 432 00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:22,630 represent the weapon to have excellent resistance to fingerprints? 433 00:24:23,050 --> 00:24:27,450 Yes, but there... Thank you. You testified that you follow all state and 434 00:24:27,450 --> 00:24:30,330 regulations with respect to distribution, did you not? Yes. 435 00:24:30,610 --> 00:24:33,230 Again, this is a yes or no question. 436 00:24:33,490 --> 00:24:36,710 Does your company ever sell gun kits through the mail? 437 00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:38,410 Yes, but... You've answered the question. 438 00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:42,110 Sir, my understanding of a gun kit... 439 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,780 It's not considered legally a gun since it doesn't include a receiver. 440 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,900 Would my understanding be correct? 441 00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:53,180 Yes. And since it's not legally a gun, no background checks are necessary. 442 00:24:53,580 --> 00:24:56,880 A convicted felon could order these kits through the mail. Would that be true? 443 00:24:57,140 --> 00:25:01,780 Yes. Do you also advertise something called a frame flat which can be bent 444 00:25:01,780 --> 00:25:02,780 a receiver? 445 00:25:02,810 --> 00:25:05,850 The context... It's a yes or no question. Your Honor, I object. 446 00:25:06,510 --> 00:25:10,450 Overruled. He should be allowed to finish his answers. He's being asked yes 447 00:25:10,450 --> 00:25:13,490 no questions. The objection is overruled. 448 00:25:15,090 --> 00:25:17,430 Your company advertises these frame flats. 449 00:25:17,630 --> 00:25:18,730 True or not true? True. 450 00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:22,750 You also supply your customers with an 800 telephone number. They can call for 451 00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:25,710 assistance in how to make a frame flat into a receiver. 452 00:25:26,170 --> 00:25:29,030 We have an 800 number that offers general assistance. 453 00:25:29,450 --> 00:25:32,750 Assistance including how to turn a frame flat into a receiver. 454 00:25:33,130 --> 00:25:38,230 Yes. If I were a convicted felon and I wanted a gun, to avoid a background 455 00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:43,450 check, I could order one of your gun kits, order a frame flat, call you up, 456 00:25:43,450 --> 00:25:45,410 you'd help me make the receiver. 457 00:25:45,970 --> 00:25:52,590 There are a lot of law -abiding people, Mr. Berluti, who enjoy making their own 458 00:25:52,590 --> 00:25:53,590 guns. 459 00:25:54,770 --> 00:25:55,770 Sure. 460 00:26:04,140 --> 00:26:07,120 Why do you advertise that the gun has a resistance to fingerprints? 461 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,500 Well, it refers to the moisture and oils on the hand, a moisture that can 462 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:13,500 corrode the metal. 463 00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:17,320 We're talking about a finish that goes to the gun's wear and tear. 464 00:26:17,860 --> 00:26:22,420 It has nothing to do with avoiding police fingerprint detection. 465 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:24,100 Thank you. 466 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,300 Your ad doesn't read resistance to moisture, which causes corrosion. 467 00:26:30,540 --> 00:26:33,280 It reads resistance to fingerprints, right? 468 00:26:36,919 --> 00:26:40,820 Yes. He's willing to continue without a finding. One year probation. But if you 469 00:26:40,820 --> 00:26:43,440 move for a suppression hearing, then he's going to recommend a delinquent 470 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,600 finding. Oh, come on. 471 00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:48,880 Bobby, they can make intent with this kid. They're offering probation. 472 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:52,580 All I'm asking is that they don't pull the offer if we challenge the search. 473 00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:55,120 It's policy. It's Eugene's son. 474 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,980 I understand, but... Bobby, if we ever did that for you or Eugene, come on. 475 00:27:01,180 --> 00:27:02,280 You know how it goes. 476 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,420 Why are you even blinking? Just take the no finding and probation and be 477 00:27:07,420 --> 00:27:08,420 thankful. 478 00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:22,180 I'm here to see Eugene. 479 00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:24,160 And you would be? 480 00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:26,700 Charles Beth. 481 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,280 Eugene paid me. 482 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:32,900 Hey, Eugene. 483 00:27:33,770 --> 00:27:34,770 What's up? 484 00:27:38,090 --> 00:27:39,090 Thanks. 485 00:27:43,610 --> 00:27:45,450 You still have your Robbie G running for you? 486 00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:47,470 Why? 487 00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:49,910 Is he in trouble again? 488 00:27:50,150 --> 00:27:51,150 I just need to know. 489 00:27:53,810 --> 00:27:55,750 You can tell me. I'm your lawyer. 490 00:27:59,110 --> 00:28:00,850 Yeah. He's still on the payroll. 491 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,360 Now you're going to tell me what's going on. 492 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,420 Bobby G hooked up with my son. 493 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,020 You in the school business, Charlie? 494 00:28:09,460 --> 00:28:13,160 You out of the school business. You hear me? I need a sec. 495 00:28:13,460 --> 00:28:16,540 If I get to slide with you anywhere near school privilege, you know, I'm going 496 00:28:16,540 --> 00:28:18,420 straight to the cop with everything I got on you. 497 00:28:21,340 --> 00:28:22,340 Now get out. 498 00:28:33,439 --> 00:28:35,360 375. It's better than we ever hoped. 499 00:28:36,180 --> 00:28:40,400 Susan, Doug, I know. I know how much you want that public verdict. 500 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,160 But you have to remember, in the beginning, our goal was to do well 501 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,160 force an offer. 502 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,180 We're here. We've got a great offer. 503 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,500 You're in debt. You can use this money. 504 00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:53,700 Trust me, I'm not thinking about our contingency here. I'm thinking of you. 505 00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:54,740 I don't doubt that, Lindsay. 506 00:28:55,820 --> 00:28:57,340 But we keep thinking of Lisa. 507 00:29:03,210 --> 00:29:05,250 Tell you what, we still have closing arguments. 508 00:29:05,770 --> 00:29:08,490 I don't think the offer's going anywhere. We'll see where we are after 509 00:29:08,490 --> 00:29:09,490 summations. 510 00:29:10,250 --> 00:29:11,510 Okay, okay. 511 00:29:12,230 --> 00:29:13,610 Sorry to be doing this to you. 512 00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:17,370 This is your case, Mr. Kimbrough, not ours. 513 00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:19,310 Yeah. 514 00:29:23,890 --> 00:29:27,890 Jimmy, I hate to put pressure on you, but your closing has to be great, if for 515 00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:30,310 no other reason than to keep that offer on the table. 516 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,000 Thanks, Lindsey. 517 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,020 We can't risk it, Eugene. 518 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,300 Probation puts him in the system. 519 00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:42,680 That means he's reporting to caseworkers. 520 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,480 Yes, for a year. 521 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,980 But if we challenge PC and lose, he's branded a delinquent. That stays on his 522 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:50,980 record for life. 523 00:29:51,060 --> 00:29:54,680 Every time he applies for a job... I can win at probable cause. I checked the 524 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,399 case law. 525 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,720 Eugene... I can win it, Bobby. 526 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,560 I don't want my kid put into the system. 527 00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:01,500 When I know, I can beat it. 528 00:30:02,860 --> 00:30:07,920 Eugene, we have a client here found with enough marijuana to warrant an intent 529 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,160 to distribute conviction. 530 00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:13,080 We've been offered probation. It would be malpractice of us to turn it down. 531 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,460 Let us help him as his lawyers. 532 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,840 You help him as his father. 533 00:30:31,380 --> 00:30:33,200 Mr. Berluti, we'll hear from you. 534 00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:42,220 Something like 10 % of all high school kids have been shot at. 535 00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:46,600 There are more licensed gun dealers in this country than gas stations. 536 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,200 Guns are all over. 537 00:30:48,380 --> 00:30:52,940 Hey, Second Amendment, red, white, and blue. Free country. 538 00:30:53,820 --> 00:30:56,280 Truth be told, I've thought of getting one. 539 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,420 Protect myself and my home. 540 00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,760 My right. 541 00:31:00,620 --> 00:31:05,080 But this, this isn't a self -defense gun. 542 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,960 It's a spray fire assault weapon. 543 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,480 Who do they make these for? 544 00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:12,680 Hunters? Collectors? 545 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,320 Skeet shooters? 546 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:20,480 They know who's buying these things, just like we all do. And even if they 547 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,260 not to know about the black market, those guns go almost directly into when 548 00:31:25,260 --> 00:31:26,260 leave the shops. 549 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,400 They can't deny knowing about all these studies that say this is what's 550 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,980 happening. Who are we kidding? 551 00:31:32,820 --> 00:31:36,080 They sell gun kits to beat the background checks. 552 00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:41,400 They advertise resistance to fingerprints claiming, oh, it's a 553 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,400 corrosion issue. 554 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,300 Do you really believe that? 555 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,120 Do they really expect you to? 556 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,480 Guns don't kill. 557 00:31:50,980 --> 00:31:51,980 People do. 558 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,260 That's a nice jingle. 559 00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,240 But when you promote assault weapons, when you flood the market with them, 560 00:32:00,260 --> 00:32:04,860 gee, they go off in the hands of the very criminals you derive your profits 561 00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:07,580 from, you've got to take some responsibility. 562 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,480 That's all we're asking, ladies and gentlemen. 563 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,760 We're not in here calling them murderers. 564 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,180 We're just saying it's foreseeable that there's a black market for these guns. 565 00:32:18,820 --> 00:32:23,360 It's foreseeable where these guns will eventually end up. 566 00:32:23,790 --> 00:32:27,830 It's foreseeable that people will use these guns to kill. 567 00:32:28,890 --> 00:32:34,430 Foreseeable that people like Lisa Kimbrough will end up dead. 568 00:32:37,890 --> 00:32:40,310 Who's buying these things? 569 00:32:43,390 --> 00:32:45,970 Just a little responsibility. 570 00:32:48,130 --> 00:32:49,270 That's all we ask. 571 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:08,760 Every 13 seconds, an American gun owner uses a firearm to defend against a 572 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,760 criminal. 573 00:33:10,460 --> 00:33:12,440 He didn't mention that in his closing, did he? 574 00:33:13,740 --> 00:33:19,640 The TAC -10, as the testimony revealed, is viable for both self -defense and 575 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,640 recreation. 576 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,340 He forgot to touch on that as well. 577 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,500 My client never met the man who shot and killed Lisa Kimbrough. 578 00:33:28,020 --> 00:33:30,520 There is no evidence to suggest... 579 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,380 that this person ever saw Pearson Heron's advertising. 580 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,360 There's no case here. 581 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,840 Man uses a weapon to kill somebody? 582 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,820 Let's sue the person who made the weapon. That's what they're saying. 583 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,260 Well then, somebody gets stabbed, let's sue the cutlery manufacturer. 584 00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:46,900 Drunk driver hits someone? 585 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,200 Sue Chrysler. Man bludgeoned somebody with a baseball bat? Sue Louisville 586 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,740 Slugger. Woman is poisoned? 587 00:33:52,940 --> 00:33:56,040 Sue the pharmaceutical company. There's a deep, deep pocket behind every 588 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,040 instrument, isn't there? 589 00:33:58,660 --> 00:34:04,800 Like automobiles and baseball bats and carving knives, guns, when used as 590 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,540 directed, are safe. 591 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,760 The vast majority of gun owners are law -abiding people who use them safely. 592 00:34:11,219 --> 00:34:13,719 I agree, this case really is about responsibility. 593 00:34:15,179 --> 00:34:19,699 We're becoming this litigious nation where every time a tragedy occurs, we 594 00:34:19,699 --> 00:34:20,920 a deep pocket to sue. 595 00:34:22,260 --> 00:34:26,540 Ray Brown killed Lisa Kimbrough, not Pearson Heron. 596 00:34:29,130 --> 00:34:33,310 Responsibility means going after the ones responsible. 597 00:34:35,070 --> 00:34:37,290 And not just the ones with the money. 598 00:34:43,449 --> 00:34:50,290 I hope 599 00:34:50,290 --> 00:34:51,570 you know the bullet you dodged. 600 00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:56,330 You also better know, you get arrested again, this case comes alive again. 601 00:34:56,830 --> 00:35:00,550 And you get a guilty finding which labels you a delinquent for the rest... 602 00:35:00,550 --> 00:35:01,550 look at me. 603 00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:04,450 The rest of your life. 604 00:35:06,670 --> 00:35:07,670 First, you're grounded. 605 00:35:07,930 --> 00:35:09,130 You're grounding me at mom? 606 00:35:09,390 --> 00:35:10,390 Keep your mouth shut. 607 00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:13,790 Second, I want you at my office this afternoon. 608 00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:18,410 I want you to look Bobby, Rebecca, and Eleanor all in the eye and thank them 609 00:35:18,410 --> 00:35:20,210 devoting the last 24 hours to you. 610 00:35:20,930 --> 00:35:25,310 Third... Part of my anger at you... 611 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,500 It comes from fear, Kendall. 612 00:35:28,260 --> 00:35:33,780 This thing is scaring me like... As angry as I am at you, I know we got to 613 00:35:33,780 --> 00:35:34,780 something. 614 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,540 I'm signing us both up for a drug awareness program, and I hope your mom 615 00:35:39,540 --> 00:35:40,540 come too. 616 00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:44,920 You can see I'm angry. 617 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,620 But I hope you also see... 618 00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:55,040 I love you. 619 00:36:01,470 --> 00:36:06,050 Kendall, go to your room. I'm not quite done here yet. Kendall, go to your room. 620 00:36:07,390 --> 00:36:08,850 I need to talk to your father. 621 00:36:20,350 --> 00:36:22,090 I don't want him going to your office. 622 00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:25,370 I don't like what goes on there. I don't like what he learns there. 623 00:36:25,610 --> 00:36:26,610 You blaming me? 624 00:36:27,330 --> 00:36:29,770 I don't want him there. 625 00:36:32,030 --> 00:36:33,030 600? 626 00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:34,950 Their jury consultants must be worried. 627 00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:37,190 $600 ,000? 628 00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:43,510 Yes. I can't believe it. Doug, Susan, in my opinion, this is like an admission 629 00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:44,510 of blame. 630 00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:48,590 Obviously, you think we should take it. I can't see how we can't. 631 00:36:49,970 --> 00:36:51,010 You think so too? 632 00:36:51,930 --> 00:36:54,130 Actually, no. It's just... what? 633 00:36:55,710 --> 00:36:59,290 I think your clothing hit the mark, Jimmy. So do they, so do their 634 00:36:59,980 --> 00:37:03,880 And if it's a judgment for the plaintiff, it'll have to be more than 635 00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:06,000 Now you think we should go for it? 636 00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:07,420 I don't know. 637 00:37:08,980 --> 00:37:10,600 $600 ,000 is a lot of money. 638 00:37:11,380 --> 00:37:15,820 I wouldn't be quick to turn it down, but my gut says we'll get more. But the 639 00:37:15,820 --> 00:37:19,580 judge could throw it out, just like in the power lines case. He just threw it 640 00:37:19,580 --> 00:37:21,400 out. Well, he didn't grant the directed verdict. 641 00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:24,360 The New York verdict didn't get thrown out. 642 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,080 It's your decision. 643 00:37:30,860 --> 00:37:33,920 Honey, 600 is more than we know what to do with. 644 00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:35,420 Like it greedy. 645 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,240 Because we want a verdict. 646 00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:42,740 And if she thinks we can get one... We're broke. 647 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:44,120 Are you sure? 648 00:37:46,180 --> 00:37:48,160 We started this for Lisa. 649 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,000 Let's finish for her. 650 00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:55,800 Are you sure? 651 00:37:56,540 --> 00:37:57,540 No. 652 00:38:09,450 --> 00:38:10,450 Sharon? 653 00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:12,830 Do you want to go in my office? 654 00:38:13,110 --> 00:38:14,110 Yeah. 655 00:38:14,850 --> 00:38:16,410 No, um, wait. 656 00:38:18,810 --> 00:38:21,890 I told my lawyer I could handle this, but I forgot to ask whether I needed 657 00:38:21,890 --> 00:38:22,890 witnesses to do this. 658 00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:25,150 To do what? 659 00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:27,410 To serve you with this petition. 660 00:38:34,490 --> 00:38:37,770 Change child custody? I don't think you've been a positive influence in 661 00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:38,770 Kendall's life. 662 00:38:38,830 --> 00:38:42,370 I'm willing to agree to some very limited supervised visitation, but 663 00:38:42,370 --> 00:38:45,490 You want to deny me access to my own son? You saw that tape, Eugene. 664 00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:47,850 He learned what he learned. 665 00:38:48,750 --> 00:38:54,410 Maybe we should go to your office. 666 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,880 I'm sorry to do this. 667 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,540 You think it's in his interest to deny me joint custody? I do. 668 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,560 Look, I know what you do is important work. 669 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:26,880 But to him, when you make drug dealers defendable, you make them excusable. 670 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,900 not that simple, Sharon. 671 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,320 You can't be laying this on me. 672 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,080 It may be unfair, but I've got to go with my instinct. 673 00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:49,520 I don't like what he's becoming around you. 674 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:25,900 The clerk will read the verdict. 675 00:40:30,020 --> 00:40:35,260 On question one, was the defendant negligent in the marketing, advertising, 676 00:40:35,260 --> 00:40:36,440 distribution of its product? 677 00:40:36,940 --> 00:40:39,120 We answer, yes. 678 00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:45,480 On question two, was the negligence of the defendant a proximate cause of the 679 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,480 injuries and death? 680 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,400 Answer, yes. 681 00:40:50,060 --> 00:40:51,060 Question three. 682 00:40:51,610 --> 00:40:54,430 What amount of damages will fairly compensate the survivors? 683 00:40:55,230 --> 00:40:57,750 Answer, $7 million. 684 00:41:00,690 --> 00:41:03,190 The court has found for the plaintiff. 685 00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:07,750 The defendant notes its appeal for the record. 686 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:11,250 The jury is dismissed with the thanks of the court. 687 00:41:11,590 --> 00:41:12,590 We're adjourned. 688 00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:19,470 I don't know what to say. Me neither. 689 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:27,490 Jimmy, you did it. You did it. And the judge didn't throw it out. I didn't hear 690 00:41:27,490 --> 00:41:30,330 him throw it out. He didn't throw it out. They said $7 million? 691 00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:34,250 Yeah. I think I'm going to fall. Can you hold me up just another second? 692 00:41:35,150 --> 00:41:37,110 Don't throw up on me. Oh, I won't do that, no. 693 00:41:38,410 --> 00:41:40,470 The judge didn't throw it out? He didn't throw it out. 694 00:41:40,770 --> 00:41:42,290 Because I didn't hear him throw it out. 695 00:41:50,330 --> 00:41:51,530 Seven million dollars? 696 00:41:51,790 --> 00:41:55,030 That's what he said. Have you talked to Lindsay? Sometimes Jimmy gets things 697 00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:58,990 wrong. It's seven million. I don't believe it. Is this the first 698 00:41:58,990 --> 00:42:01,550 verdict? Second. Don't forget the New York case. He's going to want to be made 699 00:42:01,550 --> 00:42:02,590 partner now. He should. 700 00:42:02,990 --> 00:42:06,210 Is he going to get a commission off of this? I'm just curious. 701 00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:09,390 He's also going to make more money than I make. 57373

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