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That's my son, Dan Marshall.
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He looks like a great kid.
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Yeah, well, I wouldn't know. You know,
he was three months old when I began my
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term.
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My wife remarried, and he was raised by,
um... You know, he thinks of his
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stepdad as his father.
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Oh. No, I mean, I owe the guy, really.
You know, he's been a pretty good dad.
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Hey.
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They're willing to move for a finding of
your legal innocence.
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That's it?
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No money?
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No.
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15 years for a murder I didn't do, they
offer nothing.
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They don't feel they were negligent.
Plus, the state doesn't like to admit
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mistakes. Goes to a fear of getting
sued.
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Why haven't they moved for a legal
finding on their own long before now?
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As I said, they don't like to formally
acknowledge mistakes.
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So if we...
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Continue on.
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Can we win?
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Honestly, I don't know.
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They'll claim, given all the evidence,
your arrest was reasonable. After that,
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it was a jury that convicted you.
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We obviously can't sue them.
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We won't win.
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I don't think so.
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Bobby, I know that you took this on a
contingency.
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And 33 % of nothing isn't much.
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But given...
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That I did 15 years.
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I would like to at least give them three
days of hell.
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Summons, I need you to testify.
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Why? Because you were the DA who
prosecuted him, Ken. It was one of our
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trials when our relationship was formed,
remember?
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You blaming me?
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I'm certainly not blaming.
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I'm just exploring how an innocent man
ended up serving 15 years.
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Look, I've spent a lot of money in
therapy, you piece of crap, and I'm
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now to be nice.
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I've held out an olive branch to your
firm. If you intend to trash me with
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That isn't the case.
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I just want your take.
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My take.
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You come after me, I'll fillet you,
Bobby.
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Right in the courtroom for the jury to
see.
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I can see those therapy dollars at work.
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Don't do this.
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That's a warning.
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You have your summons.
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I'll see you in court.
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Everything okay?
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No. Will you argue?
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What? I'm over my head.
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I'm going up against John Wicker from
Goodman.
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You believe that? They've got Wicker.
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You said you were ready. I am.
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But let's face it, Lindsay, I'm...
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Suing in town for having a soccer
program.
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Add to that, I've been to court twice in
my entire life. Add to that, they've
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got wicker. Add to that, are you okay?
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Lindsay, sometimes... I sort of freeze.
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What do you mean?
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When I get nervous or... I'll be fine.
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I'll be fine.
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The victim was a 70 -year -old retired
school teacher.
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Robbed, beaten to death with a wrench.
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I was lead detective on the case.
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And detective, what led you to conclude
that Louis Niler was the killer?
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Two eyewitnesses gave a description
matching his.
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One picked him out of a lineup.
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He had no alibi.
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His wrench was the murder weapon.
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And he confessed.
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He initially maintained his innocence.
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They all do. But this one was innocent.
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At what point during your
interrogation...
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Did my client confess?
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Approximately 28 hours.
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He was in that room for 28 straight
hours? Yes.
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You basically wore him down.
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The confession was voluntary.
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Detective, a month after my client was
convicted, another man confessed to the
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killing. Isn't that right? A man by the
name of Mark Carter?
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Unfortunately, we didn't think that
confession was credible.
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I thought he was trying to make a deal
on a different murder he'd been charged
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with. And last year...
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Fifteen years later, you finally did a
DNA analysis on the wrench, didn't you?
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Yes. And what did that analysis tell
you?
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That Mark Carter was indeed the killer.
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We apologize.
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Can't you make a call and tell them I'm
dead or something? They've cracked down
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on jury duty now. It's not so easy to
get out of.
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Well, what about something medical?
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Well, what have you got?
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Hemorrhoids? Well, does that work?
Because I can get one.
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Hello. I'm looking for Lindsay Dole. Is
she here by any chance?
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No. She actually doesn't work here
anymore. But her office is right...
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know. I work with her temporarily.
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My name's Claire Wyatt.
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More about that later. Do you know where
she is?
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No. Have you tried her daycare?
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Right.
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Thank you.
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Oh, Lindsay.
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They want to meet.
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Who? The defendant.
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The town of Lexington. They want to
meet. They must have an offer.
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Let's not jump to conclusions.
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Why else would they want a conference to
discuss spring fashions? They even
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agreed to come here. They must have an
offer.
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Okay. Well, if they want to discuss
settlement, it's best not to appear over
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-anxious. Right. And I'm sure it goes
without saying, try not to freeze or
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vomit.
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Right.
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That was hurtful.
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I have never knowingly prosecuted an
innocent man. But you knew about another
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man who confessed to being the killer, a
man by the name of Mark Carter. I heard
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that allegation soon after the trial,
but I didn't believe it. Did you
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Mr. Carter? As I said, I didn't believe
him to be telling the truth.
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Did you interview him? The prosecutor
doesn't beat the bushes for new
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counsel. I rely on the police for that.
They said this Mr. Carter was a liar.
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And that's what you told the parole
board six years ago when you urged them
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deny Lewis Niler's parole.
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Yes. But once the Innocence Project did
the DNA test, we did vacate his
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conviction, which I, of course, fully
supported. After he served 15 years in
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prison for a crime he didn't commit.
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Hey, I wish we had money to spot check
every conviction to make sure this never
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happens again.
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We don't. How about just interviewing
the people who confessed to the crime?
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Did you interview him?
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I didn't know about him. Why not? Did
you follow up on the case counsel or did
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you just move on once your client got
convicted?
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Move the strike. You're the defense
attorney and you're coming after me, the
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prosecutor, for not being zealous enough
in securing your client's freedom.
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Am I the only one who thinks that's
funny? All right, Mr. Walsh. Your Honor,
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I'd just like to say...
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As the DA who prosecuted this man, I
have a heavy heart.
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I don't deny it. But what about his
heart? Move to strike. Where was he to
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request a DNA test?
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But for the Project Innocence, his
client would still be locked up. Move to
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strike. All right, let's just move on.
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What do you mean, no studies?
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I can't find any. In fact, the
Department of Justice doesn't even track
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statistic of how many people are falsely
convicted.
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That's impossible.
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Bobby, next to looks, I pride myself on
my research. Rebecca, can you help Jamie
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out, please? Did you try the NIJ?
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They documented some cases, but there
was nothing to overall patterns.
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Bobby, let's face it. This case is a
doll. I realize that, Eugene, but the
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client wants to try it.
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I forget who said it, but somebody here
recently kind of screamed at us to make
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the client see reason.
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Rebecca, I was the lawyer who lost this
one.
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I had an innocent man go to prison on
me.
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If he wants me to do cartwheels for him
now, then that's what I'll do.
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And how do you decide if he should be
released?
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There are a number of factors.
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Is he still a danger to the community?
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Has he bettered himself in prison?
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Has he been rehabilitated?
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And you decided that Mr. Nyler was not a
good candidate for release.
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Frankly, he was a terrible candidate.
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Why? His attitude towards us was angry.
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He wouldn't take responsibility for his
situation, and he didn't give us the
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confidence we needed to risk letting him
back out on the street.
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The police and the prosecutors opposed
release as well as the victim's family.
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This was not a hard call.
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My client was a model prisoner.
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No disciplinary problems, correct?
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Yes. The only reason you wouldn't grant
him parole is because he refused to say
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he was the killer. He showed a profound
lack of remorse and wouldn't accept
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responsibility for what was a heinous
crime.
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Well, that's understandable.
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I mean, isn't it?
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He was innocent.
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As it turned out, certainly we didn't
know that. But you had knowledge that
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another man confessed. We had no
knowledge that the confession was
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did we have the... And you couldn't be
bothered to find out. Mr. Donald, the
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parole board does not exist to
investigate. We assume guilt going in.
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to. Otherwise... You denied my client
parole because he told the truth.
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An innocent man served extra time in
jail simply because he maintained his
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innocence. In this case, has it worked
out? Yes.
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And that's regrettable. Regrettable?
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Don't you think it's perverse?
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He served extra time for being truthful.
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Mistakes were made in this case, but
none of them were ours. We did our job
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the law required.
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As the law required.
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Miss Hodges.
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Had you been armed with the DNA evidence
that conclusively proved my client's
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innocence, would you have then granted
him parole?
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No.
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No? If your client was still in prison,
refusing to accept responsibility, DNA
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evidence or not, we'd have no choice.
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We would have denied him parole.
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I must say, I'm only here at the
insistence of a charitable mayor.
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Against my better judgment, which is
expensive, by the way, I'm putting $35
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on the table.
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Conditioned, of course, on
confidentiality. $35 ,000?
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He has learning disabilities.
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Ms. Wyatt, I don't think you want the
number to reflect the merits of your
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because we all know what that number is.
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Well, if this is all about charity, why
would the mayor want to keep it such a
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secret? Most politicians like photo ops
with their acts of kindness.
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The secrecy is in my insistence.
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What would happen if every child who
ever headed a soccer ball came calling
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collect a check?
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I would think if the children had
neurological deficits caused by town
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-sponsored programs, a town would
consider compensating them.
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The $35 ,000 is on the table today.
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It won't be should you lose its summary
judgment.
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Now, I won't advise either of you how to
practice law. You're both good
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attorneys. But I will say, come on, do
the math.
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35 is better than nothing.
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What are you thinking?
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Ms. Wyatt.
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We'll take the offer to our client, then
let you know.
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I just hit her.
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First with my hand, then with the
wrench.
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I don't know how many times, but I
couldn't stop myself.
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Not till she was dead.
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I just couldn't stop myself.
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That was you, Mr. Nyler.
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Saying that you did it.
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I'd been in that room all night.
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But were you tortured?
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Did any officer beat you or... It was
mental torture.
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They kept me awake.
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And they said that they wouldn't let me
out.
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Till I confessed.
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Finally, I... I gave in.
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Mr. Nyler, when you looked at that tape
just now, can you make room for the
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possibility that a detective or a jury
or a parole board might consider you
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guilty?
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They didn't see what went on before
that.
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What did go on?
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They just kept saying they knew I did
it.
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After 20 hours or so, I was delirious.
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I just... I was sleep -deprived.
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I was mentally... At some point,
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I guess you'll say anything to get him
to stop.
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And I did.
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But the next day, I told him it was a
lie.
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I never did it.
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But they didn't want that statement.
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They wanted their conviction.
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They never looked for the truth.
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I lost my family, my son, 15 years of my
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life because they never looked for the
truth.
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Have you ever seen a doctor for this?
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Yes, and he said it's all anxiety. He
suggested I do breathing exercises.
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It's not like I black out, it's just...
I can't talk.
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Look, you said you wanted to talk about
something.
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Yes, and I appreciate you taking time
out of your busy schedule.
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I just...
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Lindsay has been giving me little pep
talks to bolster my confidence, and,
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she told me your story. My story?
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Yes. How, a few years ago, your nickname
was Jimmy the Grunt, and nobody took
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you seriously.
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Lindsay shared that?
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Yes.
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And, well, I guess I was looking for
some insight, you know, on
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turning the corner.
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Well, with me, I just made up my mind I
wasn't going to get knocked down.
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I was the first lawyer in my family,
and... But I didn't have this freezing
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problem.
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My father's a lawyer.
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I think it adds to the pressure.
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I remember the look on his face when I
told him that I was going to law school.
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He... Didn't believe I was cut out for
it.
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I think that's partly why I freeze.
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Claire, maybe you should really try to
settle.
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Nothing? Not a race disparity, even? For
sentencing, yes, but not for wrongful
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convictions. We're coming up empty.
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There was one law review that figured 10
,000 wrongful convictions a year, but
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there's no hard data on that.
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Bobby, may I ask, what are you going
for?
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If you're planning to argue false
convictions are common, that goes
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negligence claim.
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If you argue they're not common, that
hurts your unfeasibility.
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What's your case?
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I'm not sure.
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You're not sure?
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The truth is...
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Walsh is right.
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If anybody's to blame here, it's
probably me.
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I poured through that trial transcript.
You did nothing wrong.
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I should have suppressed that
confession.
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You tried. It was voluntary. And why
didn't I push for DNA testing?
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Bobby, 15 years ago, they weren't doing
that. But 10 years ago, they were.
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Reality is...
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I never went back because I believed my
client was guilty.
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I bought into that confession just like
everybody else.
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Not a good thing to bring up in your
closing.
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35 ,000.
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It isn't much, but my son has learning
disabilities.
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Attention deficits. The stumbling block
is liability.
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The doctors can't establish that hitting
the soccer ball caused the injury.
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The doctors think it's that. And I know
conclusively as his mother.
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He never had any of these problems
before the headaches after the soccer
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There's also assumption of the risk
issues. I never assumed any risk of
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neurological disability when I let him
play soccer.
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Neither of us is suggesting that $35
,000 will make you or your son whole.
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But you're telling me to take it.
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Because we don't believe we'll prevail.
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I don't think we'll even survive summary
judgment.
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35 won't do it. Mary.
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35 won't do it.
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When I tried this case 15
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years ago, I was a young, idealistic
lawyer who believed very much that our
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criminal justice system was the best in
the world.
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We've heard it said so many times that
we've almost come to believe it's
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perfect.
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Well, it certainly wasn't perfect for
Lewis neither.
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First, to defend him, he got a kid fresh
out of law school.
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Sure, I'll say it.
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I could have, perhaps should have, done
a much better job.
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But the truth is, criminal defendants
rarely get the pick of the litter. And I
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was a novice looking to pick up
experience and rent money.
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Imagine being on trial for murder and
having an inexperienced, if not
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attorney. Happens all the time in our
great criminal justice system. One would
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hope, given that, that the state would
take care to ensure fairness.
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One would hope.
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Look what the state did here. First, the
parole issue.
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for refusing to say he was guilty. Let
me say that again.
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An innocent man served additional time
for not admitting guilt.
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The perversity of that speaks for
itself.
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The even bigger question.
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How did an innocent man end up in prison
to begin with?
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We certainly know what happens.
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The Central Park jogger case, Rampart,
all the reversals from DNA, and the work
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of Project Innocence. We now know that
people get falsely convicted a lot.
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I hope to present you with studies, but
guess what?
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There aren't any. In fact, the United
States Department of Justice doesn't
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track statistics on how many people get
falsely convicted every year. That's
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outrageous.
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Add to that, nobody...
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is trying to remedy the problem.
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With all these overturned convictions
and revelations of enormous error, not
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once has any court or jurisdiction gone
back and tried to figure out how it
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happened. Your Honor, I'm sorry, but
he's introducing evidence here.
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I'm going to allow it.
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In medicine, if a patient dies
immediately, a morbidity and mortality
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is assembled to figure out how.
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If a building collapses, engineers and
architects... convene to ascertain the
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cause. But in criminal justice, with so
many false convictions, we're doing
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nothing to either fix the problem or
even probe the cause.
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Nothing. All right, Mr. Donald, I think
I will ask you to confine yourself to
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this case.
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This case is about governmental
arrogance.
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An innocent man was thrown into an
interrogation room and not let out until
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signed a false confession 28 hours
later.
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Despite the real killer confessing to
the crime, Lewis Niler continued to
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15 years in prison.
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The last six simply for insisting on his
innocence.
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He lost his family.
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A big part of his life.
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And the state offers no compensation.
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Nor has it so much as thrown together a
panel to ask how it happened.
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That's arrogance.
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My fix?
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We need a jury to motivate the state to
re -examine its procedures, not just for
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Lewis Niler's sake, but for the next
innocent man.
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and the next innocent man after that,
and the one after that.
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We need a jury to motivate the state to
make our criminal justice system every
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bit as good as it's cracked up to be.
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You know, 15 years later, I still
consider myself an idealistic attorney.
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I guess in the spirit of that idealism,
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as well as in the spirit of simple
fairness.
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I am hoping you're that jury.
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Very inspiring.
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But let's look at the merit of the case
instead of the politics.
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First, the parole issue.
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A parole board exists not to determine
innocence or guilt, but to determine
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whether a prisoner is fit for release, i
.e., rehabilitation. The board assumes
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guilt.
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Occasionally... That results in an
innocent man being required to
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guilt for a crime that he didn't commit,
and that is unfortunate, but what's the
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alternative? No such requirement?
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We're going to start paroling prisoners
who don't express remorse?
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You really want that?
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As for the bigger question, how did he
end up in jail to begin with?
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Terrible, horrific result. No argument
here. But whose fault, really?
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Lewis Niler's wrench was the murder
weapon.
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Two witnesses described him. One even
pulled him out of a lineup. And he
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confessed.
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Mr. Donald, he left that out of his
stirring speech.
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Lewis Niler confessed.
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And there was nothing illegal about that
confession.
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It was constitutional.
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Voluntary.
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Valid. So, who do we blame?
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The witnesses who made a mistake?
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Good luck.
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No witness will ever come forward again
for fear of being sued.
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The police or the prosecutors for
relying on those witnesses as well as
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other evidence, including a murder
weapon and a confession?
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The parole board for believing in a
prisoner's guilt post -conviction?
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Now, if you are desperate to find blame
here, you might start with Mr. Niler.
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He lied.
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Maybe he was vulnerable after a lengthy
interrogation. I'll give you that.
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But let's face it, we might not be here
if Lewis Niler had not signed that
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confession saying that he committed the
crime.
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And as for...
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Why the state hasn't done a better job
asking questions, analyzing mistakes.
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Donald certainly is idealistic.
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The reason that our criminal justice
system is the best in the world is
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it is so thoroughly adversarial.
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The check that we have against false
convictions, the best check, the defense
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attorney.
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And I have to ask.
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If the IDs of those witnesses were
impeachable, if that confession was
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if that DNA existed for 15 years, where,
I ask, was
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his lawyer?
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Now, if Mr. Donald, in all of his
idealism, is suggesting that we do our
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well as his, well, there's burden.
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And then there's burden.
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The thing about Lander, he's a fair
judge, smart, but he's extremely active.
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Okay. His docket is also pretty
congested, which means you can expect
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intolerance. Why?
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You're suing a town for having a soccer
program.
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Also, he has a bit of a reputation.
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For beating up on the weak.
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And he doesn't much like women.
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Great. You need to stand your ground,
Claire.
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Right. Okay.
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Would you like me to do this?
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Why do you ask that?
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Well, you... You seem uneasy.
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Claire.
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Please. Please don't be offended by what
I'm about to say.
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Some lawyers, though very capable,
extremely intelligent, aren't quite
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to be trial attorneys.
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It takes a certain stomach.
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00:29:23,260 --> 00:29:29,340
I'm not saying that you lack the
stomach. I'm just saying that it's no
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shame. I feel quite strongly I'm
equipped.
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00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,560
Okay.
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If you need any more help, just call me.
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00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:42,500
Okay? Mm -hmm.
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I'll see you in there. Okay.
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No word?
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Not yet.
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They haven't been out too long, really.
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You've been beating yourself up pretty
good over this one.
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I think it should be a law.
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For any crime where the defendant faces
prison for ten years or more.
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The attorney should be required to have
at least five years of experience.
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Problem is, most lawyers, once they get
that much experience, tend to have
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paying clients.
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And the last thing they want are
criminal cases.
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That's what makes our work so noble.
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Remember?
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Robbie, you're never going to believe
he's here to see you.
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Could you get me off a jury?
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Come on, Lucy.
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00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:23,580
If your therapist sent you here, I'm
not... That's not it.
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Then what is it?
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Look, Bobby.
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I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy
getting the better of you.
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I do.
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00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:44,110
But what I want to clear up and... You
can... Dismiss this. Just say it, Ken.
462
00:31:46,130 --> 00:31:51,810
When those DNA results came back
clearing your guy, it was devastating.
463
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:59,850
Not because I lost a conviction, but
because to think I played a part in
464
00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:00,930
someone doing time.
465
00:32:02,330 --> 00:32:04,270
No prosecutor sits well with it.
466
00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:10,890
And I bet, though it was news you were
hoping to get,
467
00:32:13,770 --> 00:32:18,510
On some level, it was devastating for
you too.
468
00:32:19,470 --> 00:32:22,830
Is that it?
469
00:32:28,390 --> 00:32:30,210
I'll piss off then.
470
00:32:40,050 --> 00:32:42,970
Imagine the floodgate of litigation.
471
00:32:44,140 --> 00:32:45,860
First, we're suing over soccer injuries.
472
00:32:46,220 --> 00:32:50,480
Tomorrow, football players will be
lining up. After that, hockey,
473
00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:52,220
Come on.
474
00:32:52,820 --> 00:32:55,480
Kids sometimes get hurt playing sports.
475
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,880
It's a fact.
476
00:32:57,420 --> 00:33:02,700
It's common sense. It's also common
sense that a town can't have parents
477
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:03,820
them every time there's an accident.
478
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:10,480
I would add to that, Your Honor, that
the plaintiff signed a waiver, waiving
479
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,480
and all negligence lawsuits based upon
injuries from soccer.
480
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:17,860
In short and accordingly, this action
should be dismissed immediately as a
481
00:33:17,860 --> 00:33:22,760
matter of law, also as a matter of
simple practicality, because this is
482
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,000
plain silly.
483
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,080
Ms. Wyatt?
484
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Ms.
485
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:38,920
Wyatt, do you have a response?
486
00:33:43,470 --> 00:33:44,470
You okay?
487
00:33:49,470 --> 00:33:50,830
Your Honor,
488
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:58,190
Timothy Boyd is a young boy who chose to
play soccer in a program that... The
489
00:33:58,190 --> 00:34:01,930
town is full of young boys playing
soccer council. They break legs, bump
490
00:34:02,050 --> 00:34:06,030
get concussions. It's a contact sport,
for God's sake. That's why they sign
491
00:34:06,030 --> 00:34:09,969
waivers. Yes, but we're not talking
about a hazardous game where accidents
492
00:34:09,969 --> 00:34:13,540
happen. We're alleging that the game
itself is inherently unsafe.
493
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:18,000
That even when played correctly, without
mishap, it can still result in
494
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,860
neurological injuries, as it did with
Timothy Boyd. Come on, counsel. I've got
495
00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:26,060
precedent staring me right in the face
here. You can't hold a city liable for
496
00:34:26,060 --> 00:34:28,520
injuries in a soccer game. Did you read
these cases?
497
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,400
I read them, Your Honor.
498
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,719
And I don't interpret them to bar the
type of lawsuit that we're bringing.
499
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,320
You wouldn't.
500
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:41,679
You'll agree soccer would be a hazardous
recreational activity under the case
501
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:42,679
law, wouldn't you?
502
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:51,960
Wouldn't you, Ms. Wyatt?
503
00:34:56,620 --> 00:34:57,620
I'm sorry.
504
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,980
Let me read some of the language for
you, counsel.
505
00:35:02,660 --> 00:35:07,670
Soccer. unquestionably is a hazardous
activity within the meaning of... But
506
00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:10,050
hazard they're talking about relates to
body contact.
507
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:11,950
So what?
508
00:35:12,050 --> 00:35:18,070
Look, we all know when kids play
football or basketball or hockey, bones
509
00:35:18,070 --> 00:35:22,070
broken. We can't have parents running
into court to sue every time something
510
00:35:22,070 --> 00:35:23,730
like that happens. I totally agree.
511
00:35:24,110 --> 00:35:25,870
But this case isn't that.
512
00:35:27,210 --> 00:35:30,130
Soccer calls for heading. It
encourages...
513
00:35:30,590 --> 00:35:34,030
promotes, and demands the very activity
that's doing the damage.
514
00:35:34,490 --> 00:35:39,370
That makes this case different from
anything anticipated by the case law or
515
00:35:39,370 --> 00:35:40,890
Massachusetts claims towards that.
516
00:35:41,350 --> 00:35:46,550
But even if you're right, counsel, you
have assumption of the risk problems.
517
00:35:46,690 --> 00:35:49,210
Certainly your client knew that heading
was part of the game.
518
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:51,110
But he didn't know it was dangerous.
519
00:35:51,690 --> 00:35:53,350
The defendant didn't even know.
520
00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:55,490
How do you know what the defendant knew?
521
00:35:55,950 --> 00:35:58,850
Well, I'm assuming had they known the
risk, they would have mandated helmets.
522
00:36:00,010 --> 00:36:04,810
Well, if they weren't aware of the risk,
then how can they be negligent for
523
00:36:04,810 --> 00:36:06,390
failing to safeguard against it?
524
00:36:11,150 --> 00:36:13,330
Did you hear my question, counsel?
525
00:36:13,690 --> 00:36:14,690
I heard it.
526
00:36:18,290 --> 00:36:23,090
The essence of our negligence claim is
that the city failed to properly
527
00:36:23,090 --> 00:36:27,250
ascertain the degree of danger. Along
with every municipality in the country,
528
00:36:27,310 --> 00:36:29,050
then. For that matter, the world.
529
00:36:29,930 --> 00:36:30,930
That may be true.
530
00:36:31,830 --> 00:36:36,110
But lawsuits, especially ones based on
theories of negligence, are primarily
531
00:36:36,110 --> 00:36:37,430
about allocating burden.
532
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:41,550
Who's better able to bear the burden of
fixing the problem? That's the question
533
00:36:41,550 --> 00:36:42,550
courts ask.
534
00:36:42,650 --> 00:36:44,070
Well, here I ask you.
535
00:36:44,510 --> 00:36:47,830
Who's in a better position to detect
whether soccer is an inherently unsafe
536
00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:51,270
sport? A municipality or an eight -year
-old boy?
537
00:36:52,170 --> 00:36:56,950
Fine. Then under your logic, if it were
suddenly determined that running...
538
00:36:57,340 --> 00:37:03,780
causes cancer, you could sue city field
and track programs because the city is
539
00:37:03,780 --> 00:37:05,440
in a better position to make the
discovery.
540
00:37:05,780 --> 00:37:08,040
No, that's not the same. Why not?
541
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,840
Because the idea that running causes
cancer, that's wildly unforeseeable.
542
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,920
The notion that kids heading soccer
balls can cause brain damage is not,
543
00:37:17,060 --> 00:37:21,260
especially since we all know that young
brains are not fully matured, especially
544
00:37:21,260 --> 00:37:24,900
since doctors have been saying it,
especially since there are studies
545
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:25,980
documenting it.
546
00:37:26,490 --> 00:37:29,090
And since it's a question of facts, I
would also... All right, I've heard
547
00:37:29,090 --> 00:37:34,750
enough. With all due respect, Your
Honor, I'm not quite finished. I said
548
00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:35,750
heard enough, counsel.
549
00:37:43,630 --> 00:37:45,830
Defendant's motion to dismiss is denied.
550
00:37:46,830 --> 00:37:48,770
Trial date will be set the first week in
March.
551
00:37:50,030 --> 00:37:51,030
Adjourned.
552
00:38:00,230 --> 00:38:03,850
He really said that, right? We won the
motion? How many times are you going to
553
00:38:03,850 --> 00:38:07,510
ask me? Well, I just keep thinking it's
a mistake or some practical joke.
554
00:38:09,730 --> 00:38:13,830
I actually beat John Wicker in a summary
judgment hearing.
555
00:38:14,290 --> 00:38:15,470
Thank you, Lindsay.
556
00:38:15,730 --> 00:38:18,110
Hey, you did it. I just sat there.
557
00:38:19,050 --> 00:38:23,530
But your being there by my side gave me
some credibility, I know.
558
00:38:24,210 --> 00:38:25,670
Hopefully now I'll be able to settle.
559
00:38:26,050 --> 00:38:29,230
Listen, I know I said you could stay
here a full three weeks.
560
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:34,730
But I'd like to go back on my word a
little and offer you a full -time job.
561
00:38:36,590 --> 00:38:37,590
What?
562
00:38:38,070 --> 00:38:41,510
I'd also like to retract my doubt over
you being a trial lawyer.
563
00:38:44,370 --> 00:38:46,090
You're offering me a job?
564
00:38:46,670 --> 00:38:47,670
You're equipped, Claire.
565
00:38:49,970 --> 00:38:51,630
You belong in that room.
566
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,500
Mr. Foreman, has the jury reached a
verdict?
567
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,100
We have, Your Honor. In the matter of
Lewis Niler versus the Commonwealth of
568
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:09,880
Massachusetts at all, how find you?
569
00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:16,020
As to the claim of wrongful
imprisonment, we the jury find for the
570
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,040
Lewis Niler.
571
00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:23,740
As to compensatory damages, we order the
defendants to pay Lewis Niler $400
572
00:39:23,740 --> 00:39:29,520
,000. As to punitive damages based on
intentional or reckless false
573
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,090
imprisonment, We ordered the defendants
to pay Lewis Nyler nothing.
574
00:39:34,990 --> 00:39:38,430
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the
court thanks you for your service.
575
00:39:38,650 --> 00:39:39,650
You are dismissed.
576
00:39:39,790 --> 00:39:41,010
We are adjourned.
577
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:46,510
Congratulations.
578
00:39:47,230 --> 00:39:50,550
It didn't exactly send a message, but...
It was something.
579
00:39:52,370 --> 00:39:53,370
Yeah.
580
00:39:57,090 --> 00:39:58,610
Listen, Lewis, uh...
581
00:39:59,340 --> 00:40:00,640
It needs to be said.
582
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,720
No, it doesn't, Bobby.
583
00:40:06,220 --> 00:40:11,020
May I ask, why do you even want me for
this trial?
584
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:19,520
It's not as if Project Innocence got you
out. I was the one.
585
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,280
Why?
586
00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:28,720
I knew you'd be motivated.
587
00:40:39,850 --> 00:40:40,850
I'll give you back those years.
588
00:40:41,790 --> 00:40:42,790
Yeah.
589
00:40:43,490 --> 00:40:45,650
Thank you, Bobby.
590
00:41:00,110 --> 00:41:01,330
I'll just be a couple of minutes.
591
00:41:01,570 --> 00:41:02,328
Thank you.
592
00:41:02,330 --> 00:41:03,330
No problem.
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