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There isn't anything in the world I
would have rather have done in that
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than go to war with Mick Foley.
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I knew that this was going to be one of
the biggest
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matches of his career. I guess what I
didn't realize at the time was he might
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have had maybe an ulterior motive.
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Maybe.
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Literally, I thought to myself, I could
lose an eye.
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But think of the pop.
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What if the floor doesn't give?
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What if it does give? What if it gives
in a place it's not supposed to give?
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know, all of that is going through my
mind as I'm watching these two human
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beings on top of Hell in a Cell.
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Hard to put into words how much those
two matches meant on solidifying Triple
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as a main event player.
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Take a good look at the future of the
World Wrestling Federation.
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There's a new meaning of perfect, and
it's Triple H, Hunter,
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Hurst, Helmsley.
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As the attitude era was coming into full
steam, everything was so competitive.
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This was at a moment in time for me when
I was trying to become the anti to what
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The Rock and Austin were becoming.
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That's where I felt like my place was in
the business, and I felt the need and
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wanted to be that.
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Coming from the things I'd done in the
past and the fun aspect of DX, I needed
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that serious side of it to come out.
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I always use the term marquee guy.
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Top guy is one thing. A lot of top guys.
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Somebody was to say, oh, hey, WWE's in
town. Oh, who's wrestling?
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So -and -so. Oh, really? Who's he
fighting?
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Marquee guys are different.
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Hey, WWE's in town. Who's wrestling?
Rock. Ooh, I want to go. There's a few
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that hit marquee status.
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And I think that if you want to say that
for Triple H, then this was the moment
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that got me there.
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This is about me. I don't need to be in
a clique anymore.
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I don't need to be in DX anymore.
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This is about me. It's about me reaching
my goals. The game stemmed from an
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interview where the character felt that
it was so invested in the business and
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it was such a connected part of his life
that it literally was him. That there
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was nothing else more to it than he was
the entire business.
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What, you want me to shoot with this
interview? I'm gonna... Shoot with it.
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going to tell you how I feel, whether
you like it or not.
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I felt that this was me saying that this
entire industry should be mine because
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it was me and because everything about
me was invested in being that. Every
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I look at you guys, it makes me sick to
think what you did to me, holding me
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back. To hell with The Rock, to hell
with Austin, to hell with The
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own all their asses. That was a pre
-taped interview, so it was shot
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with multiple cameras.
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And when I said the line, it was all
done in one piece. But when I said the
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line, I am the game, J .R.
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It just came out that way. The passion
of it, it came out in that manner. And
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when we got to the end of the take, I
remember thinking, we're going to do
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again because of that. They had a camera
angle where you didn't necessarily, I
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believe, see my mouth saying it. And
they were OK with beeping it out and
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it made it even more powerful because it
was real in that moment.
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You guys talk about being students of
the game.
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I am the game, J .R.
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There is nobody that eats, sleeps or
breathes this business more than me.
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I don't know that it wasn't until the
next week. I
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just can distinctly remember walking out
on that stage, seeing the signs and
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thinking to myself.
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Well, I just hit something gold.
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I was an account executive in the New
York sales office. I was helping to sell
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our media and sponsorship business,
really at a very entry level. I was
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out of college. And I also at that time
became a character on our television
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show. And it involves Stephanie.
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I'd just like to add, you know, I've
known the Undertaker, too.
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And it's like Dad said, you know, I
guess I just never really did know him.
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it's interesting working with Steph when
we did all the stuff around the
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wedding. Hey, get a nice shot of the
brand new Mr.
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and Mrs.
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Hutterhurst Helmholtz.
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And. You know, my breaking up the
marriage with her test.
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I know that you can only have one
question on your mind, dad.
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Oh my God.
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I hate you.
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And that is. I hate you.
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Not did we, but how many times did we
consummate the marriage?
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And then the match with Vince.
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She was.
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So enamored with every aspect of the
business. Talk about student of the
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right? Her passion for it was
infectious.
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We always wear a lot of different hats
here at WWE to listen in on Vince
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McMahon's creative sessions and to
listen to him brainstorm with top talent
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to hear their ideas and concepts and why
something works and why it doesn't
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work. And, you know, to really have the
benefit of being under the learning tree
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with Triple H.
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And to have him teaching me and giving
me the time to really explain why he's
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doing certain things at the time that
he's doing it. Because it's all
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It's all designed to get a reaction.
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I guess what I didn't realize at the
time was he might have had maybe an
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ulterior motive.
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Maybe.
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I think that the Steph relationship
storyline.
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into the Foley matches.
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If I had to pick like one time frame in
my life to say this is the moment that
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the big shift happened, it's that
beginning of 2000.
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I have to say there is nobody more
giving of their body and what they're
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to do for our business than Mick.
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He does it for our audience. He does it
for our fans.
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Because he wants to over -deliver for
them in every way he possibly can.
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Kill them!
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Oh, my God!
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They're falling!
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Mick is one of the most unique
characters and performers that I've ever
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the ring with because he is so skilled
and gifted at all the different bits and
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pieces of our business.
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He would do things that you would think,
how does a human being survive that and
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make you, oh, my God, that is the
craziest thing I've ever seen. I got to
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more about this guy. Right after he did
that, five minutes later, he's got Mr.
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Sacco on or he's doing some straight up
comedy act.
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Before the game, when I was still Hunter
Hearst Helmsley and he was mankind and
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we were.
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Shifting through things and finding our
way, I felt like we always just had this
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chemistry right off the bat. Together,
he and I can create some magical things,
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and the characters kind of gelled off of
each other really well. I loved
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everything that we ever did together
pretty much was, I felt like, always
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worked.
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I had written some pretty large checks,
and my body was cashing them in
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all at the same time.
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I was having trouble getting around. I
didn't want to be seen doing less than I
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was capable of, and it just seemed like
if I could ride off on a majestic steed
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into the sunset.
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that it would be the perfect time to
retire.
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Keep in mind, I was one of the biggest
stars in the company.
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I had a book out that had been number
one on the New York Times list, was
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hanging in there on the list, and it
hung in for 26 weeks. So I was at my
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as far as being an attraction for WWE,
and Mr. McMahon was willing to let me go
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for the sake of my health.
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And then the wild card was Stone Cold
Steve Austin's neck injury.
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Will you come back if you can't be as
good as you were before?
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No, there ain't no way but 100 % for me.
100 miles an hour, either you do it or
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you don't. That's it. And if I come back
and everything goes right, you're damn
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right. Stone Cold Steve Austin being
dangerous, son.
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Because when Steve went down with that
injury, there was a sense that we all
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to pull together for the good of the
team because we were without our number
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attraction.
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We knew that Rock was going to be a part
of the WrestleMania main event, but we
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almost had to create a new top -tier
star.
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Mr. McMahon had a meeting with me and
with Hunter, asked us what we thought
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about the possibility of working
together to kind of fill in that gap.
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And we were all for it. We'd had a
history of really working well together,
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creating some amazing things, going back
to 1997.
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Here he comes! Where is he?
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Catch this jack!
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He's back!
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Somebody snipe me! I thought he was
dead! He's alive!
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It may be the darkest day of your life,
because it's Madison Square Garden and
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Mrs. Foley's little boy!
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Bye -bye!
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Bye -bye!
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Foley had these unique characters, and
I'd worked with most of them, and it's
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funny, I helped pull a lot of them out.
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Triple H needed someone to prove that he
could hang and be a badass. He'd
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already proven himself as a main event
commodity as part of D -Generation X.
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I guess there was just that little
question mark. Can he hang at the top of
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roster when it comes to singles
competitions and be a certifiable top
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draw?
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There is a thought out there that Triple
H needed me to get him to that next
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level but I needed him.
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I did not want to go out.
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as the guy with the sock. Years later,
I've come to accept that I was the guy
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with the sock. And I love the fact that
I was the guy with the sock. But I'm
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looking at the very end of my career,
and I want to go down swinging.
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Like, I want to go down doing the things
that I loved watching when I was a huge
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WWE fan. I wanted to be that guy I had
been five years earlier.
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I believe that I was able to turn Cactus
Jack into a WWE superstar.
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It was Triple H who made him a part of
wrestling mythology.
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When I stepped into that shower and I
let the cold water run down on my head
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I looked down at the blood as it swirled
around that shower drain, I started
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thinking a little bit about what mankind
was.
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One thing mankind is not.
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is ready to face you in a street fight
at the Royal Rumble in Madison Square
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Garden.
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But I think the WWF fans deserve a
substitute in that match.
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A substitute?
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He's chickening out? What I'm going to
do, Triple H, is I'm going to name him
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right now. As a matter of fact, I think
you know the guy.
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So the reveal comes quickly, and this is
a moment that still induces goosebumps.
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20 years after the fact, there will be
people who put it up there as the best
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thing I've ever done, and I can't
disagree with them, because if Triple H
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out a dismissive laugh and tells a story
with his face, you're the same guy in a
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different T -shirt.
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This match is dead in the water. It goes
nowhere.
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And instead, he reacts as if he's
literally seen a ghost.
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It's one of the most effective ways of
advancing a character.
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For those who remember Cactus Jack, he's
coming back stronger and better than
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ever. And for those who have no clue who
this Cactus Jack guy is, we know he's
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somebody, and we know he's somebody
Triple H does not want to tangle with.
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built up this aura around that
character. It was the ultimate sadistic
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destroyer. Mick Foley is more vicious,
more dangerous than ever, King!
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And I get in that ring and I'm literally
moving faster than I've moved in years.
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I remember literally going back and
looking through the video to see if it
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been sped up because I can't believe I'm
moving that fast.
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Triple H is there and he's taking a
beating and I'm hitting him with
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I can on each one. And he's just, he's
bringing it out of me. Now I've got to
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catch my breath because I have not moved
that fast in years.
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There's two things responsible for that.
There's the adrenaline rush that comes
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with the audience there.
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And there's Triple H bringing out the
very best in me. So when people try to
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judge the value of a performer or a
worker or a wrestler, you know, there
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the move sets. There's all these
different things that you can tangibly
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But one of the intangibles is, can you
bring out the best in your opponent? Can
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you make that opponent better than he
ever felt he could be? And that's, you
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know, the difference between being a
superstar and a legend.
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So at the Royal Rumble, you're going to
make me bleed.
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I've got some news for you.
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It will not be the first time.
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And it sure as hell will not be the last
because I've got an awful lot of blood
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to give.
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I will take what you hold dearest, your
cherished WWF championship belt.
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I will take it.
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and it will be mine, mine, all mine,
baby!
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Madison Square Garden, it's where
everyone aspired to be. I mean, the
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quote ever can be attributed to Mr.
McMahon's father, Vince McMahon Sr., and
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simply said, Vinny, the garden will
always be the garden.
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Madison Square Garden, and this ain't
Mrs.
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Foley's baby boy.
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I think both for Mick and I to know that
we were going into the garden, getting
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the opportunity to main event the Royal
Rumble, a lot of pressure, but we were
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hell -bent on delivering. We knew we
were going to deliver. We knew we were
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about to make something special.
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I remember
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I walked Triple H out in the
entranceway, and he kissed me.
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That was the first time he had ever
actually kissed me on the lips, and it
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kind of took me back because I knew it
was in character, but was it really in
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character? You know, I kind of had,
like, the butterfly moment.
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And I knew that this was going to be one
of the biggest matches of his career.
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But I don't know, that kid sent a bolt
of electricity through me.
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Well, you know, look at it.
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Walking into that type of
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match with somebody like Foley, there's
a psych up here. There's an adrenaline
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factor. There is a, you are going to
war.
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But the talking has stopped.
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No holds barred.
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Anything is legal.
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And you have to approach it with that
mentality.
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You know, they must be wondering, what
am I going to have to do here tonight to
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keep the Challenger down? Now cap this
deck. That's not a steel chair.
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But there isn't anything in the world I
would have rather have done in that
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moment than go to war with Mick Foley.
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This
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was
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a proving ground.
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We're just looking to do the best we
can. We're trying to have the best match
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can. We're trying to create something.
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We
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do
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have civilians all around us, and you
have to be conscious of them
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on a certain level. And you also put
great faith in the WWE security team.
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If I could go back in time, I probably
would not suplex Triple H on a
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pallet that had a jagged shard of wood.
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I don't think I actually realized that
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the puncture wound in my leg from the
pallet was...
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really bad until uh later but i remember
looking down and seeing a piece
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of wood sticking out of my leg and
thinking like oh geez that's not good in
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mind it was like a a sliver when i
pulled it out jesus that thing went in
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really far i didn't really think about
it after that i do remember towards the
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end of that match and not really knowing
why but thinking like one boot feels
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super heavy but nothing more than that
it really was later when they pulled the
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You know, my boot off when I was
backstage was pooling with blood and it
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saturated the bottom of my boot and all
the leather.
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Adrenaline is a magical, magical
substance.
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I wasn't even aware that I made noises
throughout the entirety of my matches.
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It just, I guess, came from my
subconscious.
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I may be the most humble of wrestling
origins.
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I dropped an elbow on Nasty Ned Brady in
Greensboro, North Carolina. I think it
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was one day before I lost my two top
teeth in a car accident.
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I dropped an elbow, and just the song
from the B -52s, a song that was popular
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at the time called Love Shack, went
through my mind. I looked up at the
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and I said, bang, bang, bang.
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On the door, baby. So I never again used
the words, on the door, baby.
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I'd say the more meaningful and the more
I believed in that gesture, the better
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the match was going to be.
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I was a big believer in using things
that were available to us. It's always
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great to have something stashed away
underneath the ring. And that night, you
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know, I believe we, you know, we did, we
had, I don't believe we did. We had
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some goodies.
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I
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very
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distinctly remember that barbed wire two
by four coming out for the first time.
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The shifting of the crowd to a different
level of, oh, my God.
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The only time I'd ever experienced that
type of in -the -moment shift
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in a crowd was Undertaker and Shawn
Michaels in the first Hell in a Cell
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I remember just getting goosebumps in
that moment as I was hearing the crowd.
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I've talked a little bit at my one -man
shows about what I call the Foley risk
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-reward ratio analysis.
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And there are some things that are
genuinely risky that don't pay off in a
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reaction, you know, that makes that risk
worth taking. And then there's the
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barbed wire two -by -four.
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There's not a lot of risk going on.
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Nobody's likely to get too injured, a
couple puncture wounds, maybe.
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Well, Hugo loved to be part of the
matches.
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Hugo was the guy who dove out of the way
just in the nick of time during the
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cell match with The Undertaker. So he
thrived on that stuff.
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He's a
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performer himself.
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It was all in anticipation of upping the
ante to something that people would be
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in awe of. This character, the Cactus
Jack character of this crazy, do
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-anything, sadistic, no regard for
himself or his body or anything
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else and would do anything.
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They needed to live on that.
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I had watched a lot of the Japanese
death matches, so to speak, even the
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that Mick was involved in. I remember
asking Mick about those matches and him
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saying, oh, my God, they're terrible.
Don't watch this.
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I remember watching them and thinking,
like, oh, yeah, they are terrible.
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The guy would just fall into a bed of
barbed wire or something for no apparent
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reason.
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And they were in front of like nobody.
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Let's put that together in a way that we
can tell a story with it. So it all
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builds.
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We can tell the difference. You
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know, when I say we, it's because I'm
pausing to say whether we're fans,
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we're part of the universe. We can tell
when the emotions are real. Freak fight
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rules mean these two men have a license
to maim. And that's exactly what we're
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seeing here.
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Triple H from limb to limb. He said he
was going to spill his blood.
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My parents obviously very, very proud of
my career, everything like that. But I
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believe this was like the first big,
really big, like me main eventing a pay
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-per -view that I bring them to.
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Triple H, a bloody mess on our table
here.
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So they come to Madison Square Garden. I
get them set up with tickets, the whole
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thing.
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I don't believe I had given them any
forewarning other than to say, these
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matches with Cactus Jack, it's probably
going to be pretty aggressive.
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But I don't think I had given them any
more warning than that. My parents were
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in the front row. After the barbed wire
came out, I am bleeding heavily.
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There's a moment where Mick clotheslines
me over the top rope, go over the top
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rope, land, and go sailing across the
floor. As I hit and I'm draped over the
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guardrail, as I look up, I'm face -to
-face with my mom, who is blubbering,
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horrible as a parent, funny.
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As a son.
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To hear her reactions was very poignant
to me. You know, to watch a mother react
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to her child, you know, being in the
ring, one side of me, the personal side,
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thought, you know, oh, my gosh, I felt
so bad. And then the entertainer side of
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me was like, oh, my God, this is
awesome. He's so delivering.
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And if it looks like I am overjoyed,
it's because I am.
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I mean, it's coming back to life. I
can't physically do the things I did 20
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years ago, but I get to relive it.
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The
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last
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words Mr. McMahon said to me before I
stepped through the curtain were, no
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thumbtacks. What is that?
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The epic shift of him pouring those
thumbtacks out in that arena. You think
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can't get them any higher, but wait,
there's more. This guy's sadistic. He
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stop for anything.
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Right hands by Captain Jack.
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The game dangerously close to the
thousands of thumbtacks on the canvas.
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Like, they're thumbtacks. It's not like
it's going to kill you.
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It doesn't feel good, for sure.
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You know a suplex on a concrete floor,
let alone a jagged pallet of
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wood, is going to hurt. He's sick, JR.
He may enjoy it. I don't know.
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The love of God.
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Triple X.
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The penalty.
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The penalty.
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That's got to be over.
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Kicking out of the pedigree was
something that was unheard of at the
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I don't know if I was the first, but I
know when I kicked out, I mean, the roar
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was deafening. And I mean, there was
just this feeling that the only way we
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could take this up a notch was to do
that same move in thumbtacks.
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And I knew we'd catch hell for it.
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I just remember closing my right eye as
tightly as I could. And literally, I
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thought to myself, I could lose an eye,
but think of the pop.
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You know,
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you do the pedigree and the text.
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He lands. I'm covered. I could see them
sticking out of his face. If I remember
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correctly, he had one in his eyebrow.
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It doesn't get any better than that. I'm
a kid from Long Island. This is the
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same venue that I used to hitchhike to
and take trains to.
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Now I've lost the biggest match of my
career, and yet people are chanting my
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name.
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And at that point, I start thinking
about the physical toll that the match
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taken on both of us.
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Triple H took such a pounding in that
match. I mean, he just really took a
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beating. I believe even after it was
over that my line, you know, the next
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at Monday Night Raw was, it's not
whether you win or lose, it's how you
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game. And he had been maimed, like, in a
way that we were not used to seeing in
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WWE. Even if you've seen, like, some
bloody feuds, you were not ready for the
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level of suffering that Triple H went
through.
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Bobo. Yes, sir.
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Go in the crowd and somebody tell my...
I'm all right. All right, I'm going out
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there right now. Thanks. Did you cut
anywhere else?
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Your forehead?
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Just my head.
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We get back and I get stitched up and
everything else. And I remember I had
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to... I was having a hard time even with
the stitches getting my head to stop
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bleeding. So I had like this gigantic
turban of gauze and I think I might have
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even had a towel on there to try to keep
some weight on my head.
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You know, of course, there he is, this
bloody mess, standing there sweating.
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And all I could think about was how
worried I was about this man. And we
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dating. We weren't together.
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But, man,
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I certainly was worried about him. And I
still was thinking about the kiss.
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So in my mind, Royal Rumble is the last
match of my career.
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And then there's been some injuries.
Eddie Guerrero dislocates his elbow in
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most horrific way possible.
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And I get a call from Mr. McMahon, hey,
pal, how about doing one more?
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And, man, there's been an inference that
this could be my last match of the
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Rumble, but now we're going to put a
sense of finality to it, that my career
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on the line.
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With Mick putting his career on the
line, which at that time was tough for
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even digest, when Mick was telling me
about he was going to retire and he
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to do it with me and he wanted to do it
in Hell in a Cell, the honor that he was
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going to give me that rub, it's hard to
put words to that.
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This has gone on too long.
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It's time to finish it once and for all.
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And no way out!
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One more time, but this is it!
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Your last shot at me, your last shot at
the WWF title.
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What? But one stipulation.
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You name it.
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I want your career on the line.
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Here's this guy, his last match, his
last moment.
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He wanted to be everything that he can
be for him, his career, everything he's
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gone through, what he's put himself
through, all that stuff. It was a very
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emotional time.
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The honor, all of it.
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Trying to keep that all straight and
still be the pro and be the, you know,
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doesn't bother you. You know, just
everything that you do when you're
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make a name for yourself.
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17 days until the biggest match of my
life.
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At No Way Out, in hell, in a cell.
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I think at that point in time, the hell
in the cell match, It was still almost
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mythical.
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Like you just would say the word, I want
it in Hell in a Cell.
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And it was an audible gasp in the crowd,
like a shift.
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You leave me with only one choice.
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Hell in a Cell!
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If you are in a storyline with somebody
and you get to the point where it just
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cannot be settled in any other way, it's
gone as absolutely far as it can,
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you've done everything possible with
each other, that the only way to settle
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this issue is inside Hell in a Cell.
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And if you had seen Cell matches prior
to that, I was there for the first one
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with Taker and Sean. I'd never seen
anything like it, and it blew my mind.
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And then you go to the Mick and Taker
one, and there was nothing ever like it,
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or as there been since.
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After what Mick and I just had gone
through at the Royal Rumble, to think
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we were now going into Hell in a Cell,
like it just took it to a whole other
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level. I was excited to get the call.
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The chemistry with Triple H was there.
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Royal Rumble had done a huge buy rate.
Mr. McMahon attributed it to the Rumble.
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We had some words over what role Triple
H and I played in that. Believe me, we
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had some words.
444
00:35:58,870 --> 00:36:03,810
But I said, okay, okay, let us take that
ball and run with it as far as we can
445
00:36:03,810 --> 00:36:09,290
and do the very best we can to not only
meet up with what we did at Royal
446
00:36:09,290 --> 00:36:10,870
Rumble, but top it.
447
00:36:18,860 --> 00:36:23,100
I remember going to a warehouse in
Brooklyn where we had the cell
448
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:28,320
and talking through some of what these
guys were going to be doing in the ring.
449
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:34,400
I remember looking at the cell itself
and having the chance to really picture
450
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,200
and envision, you know, what this was
going to look like when you were live.
451
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,560
you guys are going to do what?
452
00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:46,760
The Harper Civic Center has been sold
out for weeks in anticipation.
453
00:36:52,850 --> 00:36:54,330
When you're in that moment,
454
00:36:55,070 --> 00:36:57,610
you know, everybody talks about you walk
through that curtain, it's all real.
455
00:36:58,390 --> 00:37:00,110
You have to have that mindset.
456
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:09,970
I don't know. I always feel like I can
tell when a performer, and I say it even
457
00:37:09,970 --> 00:37:14,550
at NXT a lot or the Performance Center a
lot, I say to the talent, I still feel
458
00:37:14,550 --> 00:37:15,550
like you're playing wrestling.
459
00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:21,290
You don't believe this. You don't buy
it. You're just playing a character.
460
00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:25,720
You're not the guy. You're the guy
playing the role.
461
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,000
To me, what separates the ones that are
great from the ones that are pretty
462
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,000
good?
463
00:37:35,580 --> 00:37:40,860
Well, it's quite a task to get ready for
something like Hell in a Cell.
464
00:37:43,820 --> 00:37:48,980
I more or less have to metamorphosize
into a different human being.
465
00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:54,750
Kind -hearted, benevolent guys don't
fare well inside the cell.
466
00:37:55,810 --> 00:38:01,170
And so I have to become somebody who can
fare well inside that cell.
467
00:38:01,630 --> 00:38:04,130
Somebody's going to walk out of here
with a WWF title.
468
00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:06,830
I know Triple H has got to be concerned
about one thing. There have been
469
00:38:06,830 --> 00:38:07,830
promises fulfilled.
470
00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:11,550
Having the perfect opponent certainly
does not hurt.
471
00:38:11,770 --> 00:38:15,770
And we also heard Cactus Jack promise
that he was going to jump off the top of
472
00:38:15,770 --> 00:38:18,110
this cage onto Triple H.
473
00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:20,010
Will that come through, JR?
474
00:38:32,250 --> 00:38:33,250
Generally,
475
00:38:38,090 --> 00:38:40,470
I needed just some type of jolt.
476
00:38:40,830 --> 00:38:45,390
Once I got out there, I like to start
the matches with something big.
477
00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:01,200
And once there was a big move, I would
be jolted into that alternative reality
478
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,580
of becoming Cactus Jack, Mankind,
whatever the situation might call for.
479
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:15,540
It was a mental game for me.
480
00:39:17,060 --> 00:39:22,280
Physically, I couldn't do a fraction of
what the other guys in the roster could
481
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,280
do.
482
00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:32,740
If I could wrap my mind around a concept
483
00:39:32,740 --> 00:39:39,500
and see it in my mind, then I was going
to give it a try. And if it
484
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:42,800
worked out the way I hoped it would,
that was great.
485
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,980
If it didn't, sometimes that was even
better.
486
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,900
Look at Cactus. They're just sitting
inside him. They won't let him lose.
487
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,440
This is his night.
488
00:39:51,660 --> 00:39:53,720
Cactus, he baited Triple H in.
489
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:55,240
Oh, hello.
490
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,240
Well, the nut shot is an art form.
491
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:03,520
That's somewhat of a barbaric birth
control.
492
00:40:03,860 --> 00:40:07,340
Because what you're trying to do is not
get hit in the nuts.
493
00:40:09,610 --> 00:40:14,410
So usually there's a moment in time when
you're doing a nut shot, when you are
494
00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:18,150
thinking to yourself, like, I got to
really sell that big because it's a nut
495
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:21,450
shot. And then you end up really selling
it big because it was a nut shot.
496
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:26,550
And you end up thinking like, holy cow,
I hope he lets me sell this for a while
497
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:29,410
because I really need time to recover
from an actual nut shot.
498
00:40:29,870 --> 00:40:31,430
There really is no art to it.
499
00:40:32,090 --> 00:40:34,510
It's pretty much just trying to avoid
getting hit in the nuts.
500
00:40:41,450 --> 00:40:47,850
It can be difficult to get your
signature moves into a match that has a
501
00:40:47,850 --> 00:40:50,030
structure around that ring.
502
00:40:53,550 --> 00:41:00,410
And so one of your signature moves is
that you fly through the air
503
00:41:00,410 --> 00:41:01,570
with an elbow.
504
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,680
And you realize you don't have the space
you usually do to complete that move.
505
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,500
You have to improvise. And so I went up
higher. I went up to the second rope. I
506
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:18,860
did it with a chair tucked underneath my
arm. But because of the way I had to
507
00:41:18,860 --> 00:41:24,820
position my body in order to drop that
elbow, I ended up hitting my own face on
508
00:41:24,820 --> 00:41:28,120
my own chair and broke my nose in the
process.
509
00:41:39,740 --> 00:41:45,100
And in ordinary circumstances, a broken
nose, you know, would be a cause for a
510
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:48,440
timeout. It's not in our business,
though.
511
00:41:59,620 --> 00:42:05,520
There's this one oddity in the sense
that nothing we're doing as far as
512
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,910
go. is eliciting much of a response.
513
00:42:08,170 --> 00:42:13,350
And it wasn't until I threw the stairs
at Triple H, he ducks out of the way,
514
00:42:13,350 --> 00:42:18,390
they go through the cell structure, and
now this building comes alive.
515
00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:25,890
I
516
00:42:25,890 --> 00:42:33,750
immediately
517
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:34,870
think back.
518
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:41,300
all of the times I've stressed that I
will ascend that cell one more time.
519
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:50,900
And now, with the benefit of previous
failure, that
520
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:55,620
failure being Hell in a Cell 1998 with
The Undertaker, where I was having a
521
00:42:55,620 --> 00:43:01,400
of a time ascending that structure, WWE
has put in some convenient footholds for
522
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,640
me and every superstar that follows.
523
00:43:09,970 --> 00:43:13,990
Stephanie's contributions to that
rivalry cannot be understated.
524
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:15,770
Stephanie was great.
525
00:43:20,530 --> 00:43:21,110
I was
526
00:43:21,110 --> 00:43:28,870
standing
527
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:33,890
on the outside and I missed the time in
the match when they start the climb. And
528
00:43:33,890 --> 00:43:35,870
I just remember being so worried.
529
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:57,720
Barbed wire, thumbtack, all those
things. You know, what's the art form?
530
00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:58,720
isn't.
531
00:43:59,540 --> 00:44:03,780
Rubbing barbed wire, rubbing the cage.
532
00:44:05,330 --> 00:44:08,610
Sometimes the hitting with the barbed
wire is bad. It's the pulling off of the
533
00:44:08,610 --> 00:44:12,950
barbed wire that is worse. It just
doesn't feel real comfortable.
534
00:44:15,810 --> 00:44:16,810
Well,
535
00:44:20,190 --> 00:44:24,530
there is no art to taking that. Well,
you either do it or you don't do it.
536
00:44:26,090 --> 00:44:28,390
I've got this chair.
537
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:34,200
What I don't realize is that the
audience is there. You cannot have a
538
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,000
goes backwards, right? And I no longer
have the gas in the tank to do it.
539
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,120
I try it two or three times. I really
want that chair up on top with me. And
540
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,840
once I realize it's not meant to be, I
start making that climb.
541
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,820
It did hit me.
542
00:44:51,580 --> 00:44:56,900
Everything that we did in Royal Rumble,
how do you get it to another level?
543
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,400
Oh, look at this jacket.
544
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:09,230
But how do you get there in a way that
tells the right story? And then how do
545
00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:12,050
you get there where you don't see the
setup coming?
546
00:45:16,310 --> 00:45:19,530
We've had an exciting match.
547
00:45:19,870 --> 00:45:24,930
One that I think has come close to
living up to the standards we set.
548
00:45:25,530 --> 00:45:29,910
A month earlier, and we just have to
find a way to create a memory.
549
00:45:31,870 --> 00:45:36,190
Jack this Jack has got the two by four
and the barbed wire again. And what
550
00:45:36,190 --> 00:45:38,770
be worse than a two by four wrapped in
barbed wire?
551
00:45:39,010 --> 00:45:42,010
I don't know. Oh, my God.
552
00:45:42,430 --> 00:45:46,630
Oh, my God. That's two by four. The
barbed wire is burning.
553
00:45:47,010 --> 00:45:50,930
At one point in time, there was a
conversation had about fire.
554
00:45:51,370 --> 00:45:53,330
And then it came up that maybe that.
555
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:57,620
that moment of fire would be the perfect
distract.
556
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:01,120
Captus has a dream, and it's coming true
tonight.
557
00:46:03,180 --> 00:46:05,040
Oh, my God, Hunter, he's got the bed.
558
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,240
He's got the cool intention for you.
559
00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:11,600
He's got a pile driving on the fire. I
think that's what Captus was signaling,
560
00:46:11,660 --> 00:46:12,740
the pile driving.
561
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:14,058
Get that?
562
00:46:14,060 --> 00:46:15,060
Hold that.
563
00:46:25,610 --> 00:46:31,890
It's just such a crazy image of him on
top of that cage with this barbed wire
564
00:46:31,890 --> 00:46:36,150
two by four and getting it lit. And then
him standing there with this crowd
565
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:43,010
behind him and just in its epic. I would
never forget it, but it did
566
00:46:43,010 --> 00:46:47,350
exactly what it needed to do when
everybody was so obsessed with.
567
00:46:47,950 --> 00:46:51,250
Oh, my God, there is this barbed wire
2x4 that is on fire.
568
00:46:51,630 --> 00:46:54,370
What's going to happen? And the next
thing you know, he's getting backdropped
569
00:46:54,370 --> 00:46:56,090
and going through a cage and falling
through.
570
00:46:56,490 --> 00:46:58,110
It created an incredible moment.
571
00:46:58,750 --> 00:47:03,690
And then when you went down the decision
to have him then begin to come out of
572
00:47:03,690 --> 00:47:07,310
that hole, like he's unstoppable, you
know, in some manner.
573
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,320
Crazy son of a bitch is moving.
574
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:25,780
Cactus' lifelong dream of main eventing
at WrestleMania is keeping him in the
575
00:47:25,780 --> 00:47:26,780
hunt.
576
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,020
My God, this will finish it.
577
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:30,820
Let's go for the victory.
578
00:47:31,220 --> 00:47:32,740
No dream has worked for me.
579
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,500
That's got to be it.
580
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,640
No dream has worked this. Kick out. Kick
out, Cactus.
581
00:48:07,180 --> 00:48:11,600
The idea, if you would have sat either
me or Triple H down and said, you'll be
582
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,280
talking about this match 20 years from
now, I would have thought you were
583
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:21,500
You only have a handful of special
moments in this business as a performer,
584
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:23,840
things that really stick out.
585
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,640
I wish I could have appreciated it more
for what it was, but looking back on it,
586
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,220
man, have I been lucky.
587
00:48:37,550 --> 00:48:42,210
You know, it's said a lot that, you
know, there are moments in time when you
588
00:48:42,210 --> 00:48:46,790
things happen that kind of elevate a
talent to the next level.
589
00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:52,670
For me, there's nothing more in my
career that elevated me to a different
590
00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:58,570
than those two matches, the Royal Rumble
and the Hell in a Cell match with Mick
591
00:48:58,570 --> 00:48:59,570
Foley in 2000.
592
00:49:00,770 --> 00:49:05,230
Hard to put into words how much those
two matches meant on solidifying Triple
593
00:49:05,230 --> 00:49:06,310
as a main event player.
594
00:49:09,550 --> 00:49:16,510
And now the main event at WrestleMania
will be a fatal four -way elimination
595
00:49:16,510 --> 00:49:19,610
match. What? Turns out I did come back.
596
00:49:19,950 --> 00:49:25,630
You, Triple H, will defend the World
Wrestling Federation Championship
597
00:49:25,630 --> 00:49:32,510
against Big Show, against The Rock, and
598
00:49:32,510 --> 00:49:37,670
against this man, Mick Foley.
599
00:49:41,450 --> 00:49:46,510
One of the ways we promoted WrestleMania
was by appearing on Saturday Night
600
00:49:46,510 --> 00:49:50,170
Live. And I remember Big Show going, do
you think there's something going on
601
00:49:50,170 --> 00:49:51,650
between Stephanie and Triple H?
602
00:49:52,310 --> 00:49:57,890
Absolutely not. I just thought she was a
very talented and very motivated
603
00:49:57,890 --> 00:50:02,950
manager at his side. I didn't realize
that it bled over into real life.
604
00:50:06,330 --> 00:50:08,790
It's hard to say a particular moment.
605
00:50:09,509 --> 00:50:12,850
Where I thought, oh my God, you know,
Steph is the one.
606
00:50:13,110 --> 00:50:19,810
Because, you know, it was so, so
ridiculously
607
00:50:19,810 --> 00:50:22,690
against all intelligent choices.
608
00:50:23,890 --> 00:50:27,950
You know, we just, we were goofy around
each other. Even just saying hello, we
609
00:50:27,950 --> 00:50:31,570
would go to give each other a hug and it
was super awkward. And, you know, try
610
00:50:31,570 --> 00:50:34,850
to have a conversation and, you know,
you walk away thinking like, God, I
611
00:50:34,850 --> 00:50:38,620
sounded so... Stupid. Like, why did I
say that? We were just constantly around
612
00:50:38,620 --> 00:50:39,399
each other.
613
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,420
Constantly. Didn't necessarily have to
have a reason, but we're just constantly
614
00:50:43,420 --> 00:50:47,820
finding ourselves in the same places.
Anytime I was next to him or I would
615
00:50:47,820 --> 00:50:50,600
be around him, I would have this, like,
my heart would race.
616
00:50:51,060 --> 00:50:52,080
And it still does.
617
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:58,020
You know, I'm actually more in love with
him every single day. And we have three
618
00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:00,920
beautiful daughters. And he's an
incredible father.
619
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:02,520
He is...
620
00:51:03,370 --> 00:51:07,090
He is my knight in shining armor. He is
the man that I dreamed of my entire
621
00:51:07,090 --> 00:51:08,090
life.
622
00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:15,530
You know, it's a funny thing for me. All
my friends, my best friends in life, my
623
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:19,510
relationships that have lasted my whole
life, my in -laws, just all of it,
624
00:51:19,570 --> 00:51:23,970
everything in my life stems in some way
from WWE in some manner.
625
00:51:25,170 --> 00:51:31,470
But to me, it's not the defining
characteristic of who I am. By far, my
626
00:51:31,470 --> 00:51:32,470
girls.
627
00:51:32,799 --> 00:51:37,700
Steph and all of that is the most
important thing in my life by far. And
628
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:40,420
rest of it all went away, I'd be okay as
long as I still had that.
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