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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,829 --> 00:00:19,350 Dying on stage is an occupational hazard for every comedian. 2 00:00:19,830 --> 00:00:23,530 But Tommy Cooper brought a whole new meaning to the phrase when he had a 3 00:00:23,530 --> 00:00:26,790 attack during a live TV show at Her Majesty's Theatre in 1984. 4 00:00:27,610 --> 00:00:29,870 The man literally died to the sound of laughter. 5 00:00:39,650 --> 00:00:40,990 What's that in your head? 6 00:00:41,270 --> 00:00:42,270 A bucket. 7 00:00:43,250 --> 00:00:44,970 That's not a bucket, it's a saucepan. 8 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,320 Is it? 9 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,240 I've got the wrong hat, I tell you. 10 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:54,460 He was a brand, with the trademark red fez and the catchphrase. 11 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,620 So familiar it has been exploited by advertisers, impressionists, and even 12 00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:01,780 Margaret Thatcher in her final conference speech. 13 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,440 Just like that. 14 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,340 But who was he? 15 00:01:09,580 --> 00:01:11,640 This giant with size 13 feet? 16 00:01:12,090 --> 00:01:15,830 whose mere entrance on stage had audiences erupting with uncontrollable 17 00:01:15,830 --> 00:01:16,830 laughter. 18 00:01:18,390 --> 00:01:21,930 There are comedians that you like, there are entertainers that you like, there 19 00:01:21,930 --> 00:01:24,170 are people you love. Tommy Cooper, you wanted to do that too. 20 00:01:24,630 --> 00:01:27,950 And, of course, that was a head start, because he could walk on really and do 21 00:01:27,950 --> 00:01:28,950 anything he wanted. 22 00:01:30,130 --> 00:01:36,210 He was an icon, respected by his peers. 23 00:01:36,850 --> 00:01:39,530 And yet, despite the plaudits and trappings of success, 24 00:01:40,270 --> 00:01:42,670 He was privately plagued by self -doubt. 25 00:01:43,470 --> 00:01:45,370 Oh, he said, thanks, Vic. 26 00:01:45,790 --> 00:01:48,070 He said, you made me look good. Thank you. 27 00:01:48,850 --> 00:01:51,350 I was knocked out because he was just brilliant. 28 00:01:52,070 --> 00:01:55,890 Brilliant, but of course, he didn't think he was funny. He wanted where 29 00:01:55,890 --> 00:01:56,890 laughed. 30 00:01:57,030 --> 00:02:01,870 Now, I place one egg there, one there, 31 00:02:01,970 --> 00:02:06,350 one there, and one there. 32 00:02:12,119 --> 00:02:13,140 Now the trick is this. 33 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,440 With my right hand, I hit the tray like that. 34 00:02:21,220 --> 00:02:28,120 And the tray goes over, and the tubes go over there, and the eggs... 35 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Well, they are supposed to go into the glasses. 36 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,820 And it hasn't worked yet, and I just want to know the reason why. 37 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,800 Like that. 38 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,820 Tommy Cooper was born at 19 Lwinon Street, Caerphilly, 85 years ago. 39 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,880 Tommy's father, also Tommy, was a Collier's son who spent time underground 40 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:58,840 before serving in the First World War. 41 00:02:59,780 --> 00:03:00,940 Although Tommy Sr. 42 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,120 had endured tragedy in his life, he was renowned as a man with a gift for making 43 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,120 people laugh. 44 00:03:08,490 --> 00:03:13,110 I'm positive the talent comes from his dad, you know, because it was in the 45 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:14,350 Cooper family, you know. 46 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:20,410 He was a character. If you had a party or a wedding, you never stopped 47 00:03:22,250 --> 00:03:25,830 His uncle, Jimmy Cooper, was a moon -faced regular clown. 48 00:03:26,210 --> 00:03:28,870 He developed an act for the halls and miners' clubs. 49 00:03:29,350 --> 00:03:34,230 A comic more than a magician, but he did master one trick, the egg trick. 50 00:03:34,930 --> 00:03:38,010 Years later, it would make its way straight into Tommy's routine. 51 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:48,410 Tommy was like this big kid shambling about, trying to do magic. 52 00:03:49,310 --> 00:03:51,250 And as we know, he was a brilliant magician. 53 00:03:52,070 --> 00:03:56,030 If you ever see him do bottle, glass, glass, bottle, bottle, glass, and the 54 00:03:56,030 --> 00:04:00,110 table finishes up filled with glasses and bottles, anybody would look at that 55 00:04:00,110 --> 00:04:01,690 and say, that man is brilliant. 56 00:04:08,430 --> 00:04:12,490 For Tommy and his mother, the damp, polluted air of the mining valleys posed 57 00:04:12,490 --> 00:04:13,490 constant health threat. 58 00:04:14,170 --> 00:04:18,610 At the age of three, the family was moved to Devon to breathe the clean air 59 00:04:18,610 --> 00:04:19,610 Exeter. 60 00:04:22,750 --> 00:04:26,830 But the Welsh influence was to leave its mark, and perhaps the single most 61 00:04:26,830 --> 00:04:29,970 significant act came from his aunt Lucy in Cardiff. 62 00:04:30,390 --> 00:04:34,090 On Christmas Day 1929, she gave him a box of magic tricks. 63 00:04:34,750 --> 00:04:38,350 and the means for a complex, reclusive boy to become the centre of attention. 64 00:04:44,530 --> 00:04:49,610 Tommy started young. I guess, if I'm honest, it's almost an ego thing, where 65 00:04:49,610 --> 00:04:53,130 are the centre of attention, you're doing something that none of your 66 00:04:53,130 --> 00:04:58,910 can do, you're making them laugh, you're, if you like, becoming the class 67 00:04:59,190 --> 00:05:00,550 but it becomes addictive. 68 00:05:01,270 --> 00:05:06,110 It's often said that there are three rules to magic. The first one is to 69 00:05:06,110 --> 00:05:11,070 practice. The second one is to practice. And the third one is to practice. 70 00:05:11,450 --> 00:05:15,350 We do practice literally thousands of hours. 71 00:05:17,290 --> 00:05:20,350 From the gorgeous to the ungainly, Tommy Cooper. 72 00:05:20,590 --> 00:05:22,210 Six feet four and sixteen stone. 73 00:05:22,530 --> 00:05:26,670 The sheer size of the man was in direct contrast to the childlike quality of his 74 00:05:26,670 --> 00:05:29,350 gags. They just told me, they said, go out there and warm him up. 75 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,640 Thank you. 76 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,780 Thank you very much. 77 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,360 Oh, dear. 78 00:05:37,540 --> 00:05:38,540 I'm wearing my tails tonight. 79 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,960 Do you like them? 80 00:05:43,340 --> 00:05:48,000 Now, be honest. How do you like the show so far? 81 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,880 Oh, dear. I can always tell whether an audience is going to be good or bad. 82 00:05:54,820 --> 00:05:55,820 Good night. 83 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,080 He used to sulk if he wasn't the centre of attention. 84 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:04,700 If you were all talking about sex or football or politics or something, and 85 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:08,460 was there, he'd be sitting very quietly, and then some cards would come out of 86 00:06:08,460 --> 00:06:11,400 his pocket, and he'd start doing a trick. 87 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:13,740 There's the kid in him. 88 00:06:14,780 --> 00:06:16,900 They're all looking at me now, I'm doing this card trick. 89 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,440 Like most boys of that generation, he left school at 14, and after a short, 90 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,240 unproductive spell as a shipwrights' apprentice, The six -feet, four -inch 91 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,080 signed for the structure and discipline of the household cavalry. 92 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:37,600 It's hard to imagine you on a horse. I mean, how do you manage? 93 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,520 Oh, they're big horses. 94 00:06:40,740 --> 00:06:41,740 Simply in hands. 95 00:06:41,860 --> 00:06:42,960 No feet, just hands. 96 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,140 No, it was very good, really. But this is a true story. 97 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:01,000 You see, when you get on a horse, as a recruit, I didn't know this, but when 98 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,400 put the girth around the horse like that, you see, the horse, it's true, it 99 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,260 blows itself out because it doesn't want to be tight. 100 00:07:10,460 --> 00:07:13,760 See, so you've got to wait. Well, I didn't know this. But what you're 101 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:19,160 to do is just wait for a little while, because he still looks at you like that, 102 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,160 really. 103 00:07:21,340 --> 00:07:23,480 He's a little bit suspicious, you know what I mean? 104 00:07:24,030 --> 00:07:27,250 But then all of a sudden, you could have gone quick, and he goes, ooh! 105 00:07:29,710 --> 00:07:30,870 But I did know this. 106 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:35,550 So as a recruit, I just went, not out with a girth, he went out with his 107 00:07:35,550 --> 00:07:36,830 stomach, and I thought it was tight. 108 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:41,250 So we're all on parade, and they said, right in front of your horses, will you 109 00:07:41,250 --> 00:07:41,869 do that? 110 00:07:41,870 --> 00:07:43,090 They said, right, prepare to mount. 111 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:45,290 So we put your foot in the stirrup, and they said, mount! 112 00:07:45,590 --> 00:07:48,370 And I put my foot in, and the saddle went right underneath. 113 00:07:50,090 --> 00:07:51,930 So everybody said, I'm on top, I'm underneath. 114 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,000 It was during the war in Egypt that Tommy was to shape everything. 115 00:08:06,140 --> 00:08:10,580 Entertainment's National Service Association, EMSA, proved to be fertile 116 00:08:10,580 --> 00:08:12,660 for a generation of British entertainers. 117 00:08:14,540 --> 00:08:18,940 He met his wife Gwen, or Dove as he called her, in a touring show. 118 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:22,400 Crucially, he could develop his unique brand of comedy magic. 119 00:08:23,460 --> 00:08:28,460 When I got the phase, I got it when I was in Egypt. I was in the army there, 120 00:08:28,460 --> 00:08:31,500 see. And we did a show. 121 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,960 At the YMCA, I used to wear a pith helmet. 122 00:08:36,220 --> 00:08:37,220 Pith helmet. 123 00:08:41,860 --> 00:08:48,440 Oh, my teeth is... Anyway, I used to wear this pith helmet. And then one day, 124 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,580 forgot to bring it with me. 125 00:08:50,180 --> 00:08:54,160 So I... These waiters used to walk about with a pith and a long white gallipier. 126 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,980 So I took one off the head, and I wore it ever since. 127 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,060 Tommy Cooper was one of a post -war group of ex -servicemen who decided to 128 00:09:02,060 --> 00:09:03,060 comedy as a profession. 129 00:09:03,580 --> 00:09:05,760 The war had brought about radical change. 130 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,460 They were anarchic. 131 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:12,300 I think the post -war generation, the Peter Sellers, the Frankie Howards, and 132 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:17,060 the Harry Seacams, and the Dick Emerys, and the Tommy Coopers, they'd come 133 00:09:17,060 --> 00:09:18,480 through a war and not got killed. 134 00:09:19,070 --> 00:09:22,270 They had much money. They'd been abominably treated when they came out of 135 00:09:22,270 --> 00:09:26,510 services. And they were all, obviously, by nature, doing jokes about officers 136 00:09:26,510 --> 00:09:27,510 and the ruling class. 137 00:09:27,970 --> 00:09:30,930 So there was a sense of rebellion about all those people. 138 00:09:31,370 --> 00:09:32,950 So they thought, the hell with the rules. 139 00:09:33,710 --> 00:09:37,030 Hence the goons and everything that happened around that time. 140 00:09:37,690 --> 00:09:39,290 1941. 1941. 141 00:09:39,630 --> 00:09:41,410 Any advance on 41? 142 00:09:42,930 --> 00:09:47,210 There was no advance in 41. The war was a veritable stalemate. Was it, mate? 143 00:09:47,370 --> 00:09:48,370 Yes, mate. 144 00:09:49,689 --> 00:09:54,250 The impact of this group on British comedy is without parallel and set the 145 00:09:54,250 --> 00:09:56,790 for the cultural revolution of the 1960s. 146 00:09:57,110 --> 00:09:59,790 Add to this Cooper's natural gift for making people laugh. 147 00:10:00,490 --> 00:10:02,750 Talent, time and place was perfect. 148 00:10:03,390 --> 00:10:06,430 We had a flat in Chelsea and Tommy was staying with us because we were 149 00:10:06,430 --> 00:10:07,630 rehearsing some TV work. 150 00:10:08,230 --> 00:10:12,490 And I got a phone call from the police. They said, Mr. Cunningham, is Mr. Cooper 151 00:10:12,490 --> 00:10:14,790 staying with you? I said, yeah. They said, well, will you get him off the 152 00:10:14,790 --> 00:10:16,970 Road? I said, why? He said, he's stopping the traffic. 153 00:10:17,550 --> 00:10:18,850 I said, what's he doing? He said, nothing. 154 00:10:19,630 --> 00:10:23,490 And we went out and Tommy was buying stuff in shops and walking down to this 155 00:10:23,490 --> 00:10:26,790 car, which was a Cortina, that's how long ago this is, and putting the stuff 156 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:29,730 the boot, shutting the boot and walking back. That's all he'd be doing. But 157 00:10:29,730 --> 00:10:32,110 buses were stopped and people had doubled up just to walk. 158 00:10:32,790 --> 00:10:36,490 And I said, how can I stop him doing that? He's Christmas shopping. That's 159 00:10:36,490 --> 00:10:37,490 he's doing. 160 00:10:40,870 --> 00:10:44,170 All great performers honed their act through thousands of shows. 161 00:10:45,210 --> 00:10:46,450 Variety circuit was thriving. 162 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,540 Tommy was a regular, and like any true original, he spotted a gap in the 163 00:10:55,420 --> 00:11:00,560 Most of Tommy's material, really, was very corny, but somehow Tommy had that 164 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:04,600 knack of making the line very, very funny. 165 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,140 I think this is an example of that. 166 00:11:07,380 --> 00:11:11,840 It's a bathtub on the end of a piece of rope, and this is the actual prop that 167 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,040 Tommy used. 168 00:11:13,420 --> 00:11:15,040 And all he did was... 169 00:11:16,330 --> 00:11:21,290 They're on the stage like that, and they tap dance, and the audience will fall 170 00:11:21,290 --> 00:11:22,290 about laughing. 171 00:11:25,930 --> 00:11:29,710 He once said to me, there are a hundred brilliant magicians in this country. 172 00:11:30,770 --> 00:11:32,050 I'm going to be the idiot. 173 00:11:33,050 --> 00:11:34,130 He'd thought it through. 174 00:11:34,990 --> 00:11:37,630 There isn't a fool about at the moment, he thought. 175 00:11:38,290 --> 00:11:42,650 I'm going to be the fool. Because he could have done the act straight and 176 00:11:42,650 --> 00:11:43,650 brilliant, but no. 177 00:11:44,469 --> 00:11:48,350 Variety for years and years has been full of people who can do virtually 178 00:11:48,350 --> 00:11:52,630 anything at the drop of a hat. And even some of them at 85 can get up and still 179 00:11:52,630 --> 00:11:54,230 do tap dance, they can still do their act. 180 00:11:54,850 --> 00:11:56,910 And Tommy had to learn to be special. 181 00:11:57,230 --> 00:11:59,290 Two, three, four. 182 00:12:00,330 --> 00:12:01,330 How's that? 183 00:12:02,590 --> 00:12:08,050 And if you look in history of musical variety, there hasn't been another Tommy 184 00:12:08,050 --> 00:12:09,050 Cooper. 185 00:12:16,270 --> 00:12:21,150 As a reprieve from touring, the Windmill Theatre in Soho, famous for its semi 186 00:12:21,150 --> 00:12:24,650 -naked chorus girl, was a magnet for aspiring comedians. 187 00:12:25,310 --> 00:12:29,610 Tommy Cooper auditioned five times before joining the cast of a now 188 00:12:29,610 --> 00:12:32,370 list of entertainers who cut their teeth there. 189 00:12:33,870 --> 00:12:40,350 I was at the Windmill in 1957. I met a guy there called Bruce Forsyth. I never 190 00:12:40,350 --> 00:12:41,430 found out what happened to him. 191 00:12:42,140 --> 00:12:45,000 But it was a great school. It turned out these great comics. 192 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:49,040 Because I was just a little squit. I was the bottom of the bill. And you learned 193 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,880 to die gracefully. You did six shows a day, six days a week, 36 a week. 194 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,360 And you learned to cope with silence. 195 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,220 You weren't heckled. There was no aggression. 196 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:00,940 They hadn't come to see you. 197 00:13:01,700 --> 00:13:03,040 They'd come to see the strippers. 198 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:07,200 And they would just open newspapers and things when you came on. And it was a 199 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,200 great school. 200 00:13:09,569 --> 00:13:14,850 Now, with a regular West End gig, he wasted no time in writing to every 201 00:13:14,850 --> 00:13:15,850 in town. 202 00:13:15,870 --> 00:13:18,910 But not before considering the fledgling medium of television. 203 00:13:19,630 --> 00:13:24,730 On 2nd June 1947, he wrote to the BBC asking for an audition. 204 00:13:25,270 --> 00:13:28,350 He was summoned, but the feedback was less than flattering. 205 00:13:31,330 --> 00:13:37,050 An attractive young man with indistinct speaking voice and extremely unfortunate 206 00:13:37,050 --> 00:13:38,050 appearance. 207 00:13:39,500 --> 00:13:41,360 Comma de pata with cod magic. 208 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,280 Nonchalant approach, but poor diction and unpleasant manner. 209 00:13:49,180 --> 00:13:54,560 He had, however, secured the services of a dapper wee Scotsman, the agent Miff 210 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:55,560 Ferry. 211 00:13:56,140 --> 00:14:01,500 The only thing I know about Tommy's relationship with this agent was that 212 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:06,580 did do what he was told, up to a point, and he would never take money, you know. 213 00:14:06,890 --> 00:14:10,550 The club will try and pay him. No, no, send it to Mr. Ferry. I don't do that. 214 00:14:11,050 --> 00:14:15,770 And he made out that his agent was the fellow with the big stick and he was 215 00:14:15,770 --> 00:14:17,510 petrified of him. I'm pretty sure he wasn't. 216 00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:18,750 Miff Ferry. 217 00:14:19,430 --> 00:14:22,490 Yes, three Fs. Two in Miff and one in Ferry. 218 00:14:25,230 --> 00:14:26,750 He was a legendary figure. 219 00:14:27,070 --> 00:14:30,590 He was barred from rehearsals in the finish because he was always sticking 220 00:14:30,590 --> 00:14:31,590 oar in. 221 00:14:32,670 --> 00:14:34,950 Ferry signed him on a sole agency agreement. 222 00:14:35,660 --> 00:14:39,640 at the unheard -of percentage of 15 % of all future earnings. 223 00:14:40,420 --> 00:14:45,140 Miff Ferry, using contacts from his own days as a performer, relentlessly pushed 224 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:49,140 Tommy at the BBC, securing him a spot on a Christmas variety show. 225 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,520 The BBC head of light entertainment recognised that Tommy was a potentially 226 00:14:54,520 --> 00:15:00,620 star. In 1952, after looking for the right vehicle, they eventually 227 00:15:00,620 --> 00:15:02,560 Tommy in his own television series. 228 00:15:04,390 --> 00:15:09,850 William G. Stewart, the TV presenter and a very fine director, said to me, the 229 00:15:09,850 --> 00:15:15,310 genius of the man is, he's big, he's ugly, and he's clumsy, but when he 230 00:15:15,390 --> 00:15:18,330 he glides. And if you watched Cooper, he's a skater. 231 00:15:19,110 --> 00:15:22,330 So although it was all this bump, bump, bump, bump, and plodding about, 232 00:15:22,490 --> 00:15:24,750 underneath, he was on roller skates, the man. 233 00:15:25,330 --> 00:15:28,730 And I think that was the same in the brain. I think we got an opinion of 234 00:15:28,730 --> 00:15:30,450 being like a big... 235 00:15:31,630 --> 00:15:34,690 sloppy, lovable fella, but I think inside there was a serious, serious 236 00:15:37,130 --> 00:15:39,390 So you missed that. You went over there, didn't you? You've got to watch me all 237 00:15:39,390 --> 00:15:40,390 the time, you see. 238 00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:41,470 Watch me all the time. 239 00:15:42,030 --> 00:15:43,670 I must say, I'm delighted to be in the show. 240 00:15:45,370 --> 00:15:46,630 I couldn't afford to be in the audience. 241 00:15:50,050 --> 00:15:51,050 Thank you. 242 00:15:59,140 --> 00:16:03,640 When I went to the house once, he was, because he's a big man, as you know, 243 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:10,640 13 shoes, very big, and every few minutes he started jumping up and down. 244 00:16:10,780 --> 00:16:13,920 You know, jumping up and down like this. And I said, what on earth the matter, 245 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,660 Tommy? He looked so funny as well, this big man jumping up and down on the spot. 246 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,640 And he said, well, he said, I've just taken my medicine. And he said, I forgot 247 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:22,720 to shake the bottle. 248 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,560 Throughout the early 1950s, He also played lucrative cabaret gigs at the 249 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,220 and the Dorchester, where he came to the attention of the country's most 250 00:16:34,220 --> 00:16:37,120 influential theatre critic, Ken Tynan. 251 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,120 Cooper is the hulking, preposterous conjurer who was always in a jelly of 252 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,980 hysterics at the collapse of his own tricks. 253 00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:49,740 Convulsed by his own incompetence holding his side, he staggers helplessly 254 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:50,740 trick to trick. 255 00:16:51,940 --> 00:16:54,220 No man was ever less surprised by failure. 256 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:55,960 Cooper, you see... 257 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,960 has a distinct attitude towards life. 258 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,560 A stoic attitude, a gurgling self -awareness of the futility of human 259 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,060 And this is what raises him above the crowd. 260 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:11,640 It's easy to overlook the scale of Tommy Cooper's success. 261 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,800 Here, in every sense of the word, he was a comedy giant. 262 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,020 And they loved him across the Atlantic. 263 00:17:18,819 --> 00:17:23,200 He played Las Vegas to great acclaim, was offered a season at the Radio City 264 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,500 Music Hall in New York, which his agent had to turn down because of UK bookings. 265 00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:33,580 And in 1963, a year before the Beatles conquered America, he twice appeared on 266 00:17:33,580 --> 00:17:38,580 The Ed Sullivan Show, where the host introduced him as the funniest man ever 267 00:17:38,580 --> 00:17:39,740 appear on this stage. 268 00:17:53,450 --> 00:17:57,910 He was a constant television presence throughout the 60s and 70s and was 269 00:17:57,910 --> 00:18:00,250 high when he played the Double Diamond Club in Caerphilly. 270 00:18:02,830 --> 00:18:06,550 We all went as a family, well, all a family that wanted to go. 271 00:18:06,850 --> 00:18:13,650 I was a bit worried because, you know, being family, I thought he was wonderful 272 00:18:13,650 --> 00:18:17,910 naturally, you know, and growing up in that family like that. 273 00:18:18,430 --> 00:18:20,090 But I wondered the reaction. 274 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,160 Of the people, well, it was unbelievable. 275 00:18:23,660 --> 00:18:24,980 You had stand innovation. 276 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:27,060 I was very proud. 277 00:18:54,190 --> 00:18:55,190 Plenty of headache. 278 00:18:56,730 --> 00:18:57,730 Look at that. 279 00:18:59,370 --> 00:19:01,430 They always say, take an asshole for a headache. 280 00:19:01,830 --> 00:19:02,830 It was a headache. 281 00:19:06,650 --> 00:19:09,830 You saw the joke on the page. You think, he's not telling that. 282 00:19:11,130 --> 00:19:15,350 Tom was brilliant. It was a shared joke with the audience. It was like a 283 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:16,350 conspiracy. 284 00:19:16,690 --> 00:19:20,650 He would do an awful joke, laugh himself. 285 00:19:21,370 --> 00:19:25,370 And the audience would laugh. It's almost that he implied to the audience, 286 00:19:25,370 --> 00:19:28,910 know this joke is terrible, you know this joke is terrible. 287 00:19:29,390 --> 00:19:30,390 That's funny. 288 00:19:30,590 --> 00:19:33,390 Comedy is a tricky one because you're being funny when you're told. 289 00:19:33,690 --> 00:19:37,470 I mean, you're not being funny today, you're being funny at one minute past 290 00:19:37,470 --> 00:19:40,030 when the chairman says, now's your chance, get up and do 20 minutes. 291 00:19:40,750 --> 00:19:43,730 So it's a her's breath between success and failure. 292 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,380 It's very personal if people don't laugh. 293 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:01,440 You really feel it when the audience don't laugh, as if they don't like you. 294 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:07,220 They don't know you, they've never met you, but they've decided they don't like 295 00:20:07,220 --> 00:20:08,220 you. 296 00:20:08,260 --> 00:20:10,080 Comedians use very fierce words. 297 00:20:10,540 --> 00:20:17,160 They say, I killed them if I made the audience laugh. I died if I didn't make 298 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,840 the audience laugh. Very emotive. 299 00:20:20,139 --> 00:20:24,500 violent words to you, as if it's some gladiatorial, you know, which it is. 300 00:20:25,340 --> 00:20:26,580 I'm wearing my tails tonight. 301 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:28,360 Do you like them? 302 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,220 His mother instilled in him a sense of diligence and hard work. 303 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,040 He would do as many as 50 shows a week, and he was earning a relative fortune. 304 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,020 But story after story tells of a startling lack of generosity. 305 00:20:44,260 --> 00:20:47,100 He used to have a cigarette case with one cigarette in it. 306 00:20:47,370 --> 00:20:51,130 And they'd go, oh, sorry, sorry. They'd go, oh, put them away, Tom. And he'd 307 00:20:51,130 --> 00:20:53,510 smoke yours all night. He had a packet of 20 in his pocket. 308 00:20:54,010 --> 00:20:56,570 But the cigarette case was a genius. There we are, look at that. 309 00:20:56,850 --> 00:21:02,090 The legend went round about Tom would take a journey in a taxi and then he'd 310 00:21:02,090 --> 00:21:03,090 the exact fare. 311 00:21:03,730 --> 00:21:07,730 But then he would lean over and pat the taxi driver's breast pocket, pop 312 00:21:07,730 --> 00:21:09,370 something in it and say, have a drink with me. 313 00:21:09,870 --> 00:21:11,110 Oh, thank you, Mr Cooper. 314 00:21:11,350 --> 00:21:12,329 And he'd go away. 315 00:21:12,330 --> 00:21:14,250 And they'd look in the pocket and it was a tea bag. 316 00:21:15,630 --> 00:21:17,730 And three taxi drivers have told me that. 317 00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:22,270 The make -up of the man was he didn't know why he was a genius. 318 00:21:23,310 --> 00:21:27,830 I think the reason for the frugality was it may not last. 319 00:21:28,490 --> 00:21:33,070 Now, with his talent and our kind of forethought, we'd have sat there saying, 320 00:21:33,210 --> 00:21:34,250 hey, let's go forever, mate. 321 00:21:34,490 --> 00:21:37,450 How can this possibly stop? I'm doing nothing and getting paid for it. 322 00:21:39,020 --> 00:21:42,460 And I think in the back of the mind was again that doubt, that doubt of the 323 00:21:42,460 --> 00:21:46,920 character, the lovable man, but deep down a serious man saying, if this 324 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,920 tomorrow, what have I got? 325 00:21:50,420 --> 00:21:54,720 By the early 80s, Tommy Cooper had been at the top of his profession for over 30 326 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,380 years. He was famous, imitated and rich. 327 00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:02,420 But those who knew him best witnessed him as a melancholic loner. 328 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,740 As a young man, he wouldn't drink a half between shows. 329 00:22:07,550 --> 00:22:11,150 But as his fame grew, he increasingly needed alcohol before going on. 330 00:22:15,670 --> 00:22:18,410 It's not a good road to go on. 331 00:22:18,990 --> 00:22:21,590 I think, well, have a drink and that'll give me a bit of energy. 332 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:23,890 Because, in fact, alcohol is depressive. 333 00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:28,510 It depresses you. I can't have a drink and go on stage. 334 00:22:28,710 --> 00:22:35,530 The energy comes from... Actually, the energy comes from giving 335 00:22:35,530 --> 00:22:36,650 it away. 336 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:40,960 I'll give this bit and I'll keep that bit. No, give it away. 337 00:22:41,180 --> 00:22:42,500 And more floods. 338 00:22:43,740 --> 00:22:48,220 Tommy is a good drinker. He was a steady drinker. I've seen him do things like 339 00:22:48,220 --> 00:22:53,440 once in a club in Liverpool, which shall be nameless, where he walked in with a 340 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,980 lady, I think it was Dove, and he looked at the optics and he said, I'll have a 341 00:22:58,980 --> 00:23:00,320 large one of them and a pint of that. 342 00:23:00,660 --> 00:23:01,800 And he went right along the bar. 343 00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:06,180 And everyone thought, this is a lot of fun. That night, he never showed. 344 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,340 He wasn't in the club. And they rang his hotel in Liverpool. 345 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,720 I know because the agent was a pal of mine. And he rang and said, Tommy. 346 00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:14,259 He said, yes. 347 00:23:14,260 --> 00:23:15,680 He said, are you coming in? I don't think so. 348 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,880 I don't think I'll be coming in. 349 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,800 He said, well, there's 800 people here paid £20 each. He said, give me the 350 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,160 and addresses and I'll go around and apologise. 351 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:29,080 During the years of touring, Tommy's wife, Dove, stayed at home with the 352 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,080 children. 353 00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:33,610 The affectionate term Dove could well have been ironic. 354 00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:38,590 She was a powerful woman who could crack the whip with her husband and was known 355 00:23:38,590 --> 00:23:40,370 as a prolific drinker in her own right. 356 00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:49,030 His secretary, Mary Kay, they met at a rehearsal in 1967, soon became an 357 00:23:49,030 --> 00:23:53,170 important part of his entourage and they enjoyed a deep, loving relationship up 358 00:23:53,170 --> 00:23:54,170 until his death. 359 00:23:54,670 --> 00:23:57,370 For almost 20 years, he was in love with two women. 360 00:23:58,090 --> 00:23:59,990 They were the organising force in his life. 361 00:24:00,540 --> 00:24:02,780 but could do nothing to dispel his personal demons. 362 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,340 In most entertainers, myself included, there's a huge element of self -doubt, 363 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,560 and I think it's that point where the back of your mind says, you know, watch 364 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,940 the galloping horses. The galloping horses are the ones that say, you can do 365 00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:17,839 anything now. 366 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,440 You've made it now, you've cracked it, you're the other man. 367 00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:23,300 You can literally do what you want, you can go on there. 368 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,860 And it gets to a point where you think, if I go on and do it and it doesn't 369 00:24:28,860 --> 00:24:30,680 work, It'll shatter me. 370 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,840 So you're now afraid to do anything. You're afraid to do anything new. 371 00:24:34,580 --> 00:24:36,200 And Tommy had that fear. I have it. 372 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,300 I just have this feeling sometimes that Tommy didn't like the character. 373 00:24:45,660 --> 00:24:50,140 I'm not an expert on that. I just have this feeling that sometimes he disliked 374 00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:53,120 the fact that he was the object of the laughter. 375 00:24:55,380 --> 00:24:56,380 Light. 376 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,840 There, look. There, there. 377 00:24:58,250 --> 00:25:03,170 The real stars, the real great ones, like Tommy, they think my reputation's 378 00:25:03,170 --> 00:25:05,930 the line again tonight when I go on. 379 00:25:06,150 --> 00:25:10,850 I know what I'm going to do, but maybe this is the night when they don't think 380 00:25:10,850 --> 00:25:11,850 it's funny. 381 00:25:14,850 --> 00:25:17,030 Tommy used this very table. 382 00:25:17,230 --> 00:25:21,770 And at one stage, he picked up the table, he walked to the front of the 383 00:25:21,970 --> 00:25:27,050 and suddenly, Tommy, all his tricks, things are going wrong. 384 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,140 What is he going to do? He's on live television. He can't put the table down. 385 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,860 And then, happily, he's got his leg. 386 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,380 Tommy's work schedule and his widely acknowledged alcoholism inevitably took 387 00:25:46,380 --> 00:25:51,240 toll. He had been variously diagnosed with bronchitis, asthma, exhaustion and 388 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:52,240 even thrombosis. 389 00:25:52,380 --> 00:25:54,220 He had suffered several heart attacks. 390 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,800 that were either played down or just kept secret. 391 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,340 And on that fateful night, 15th April 1984, ironically called Live at Her 392 00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:05,000 Majesty's, he took the stage for his final performance. 393 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:30,380 wondering why this is funny and why this is going to work, but he'd learnt those 394 00:26:30,380 --> 00:26:36,840 things and... Yeah. 395 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:44,380 A fellow said he was on a cruise ship and they docked in Port Said in Egypt. 396 00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:49,300 And in the old days, before the security problems we have now, they used to have 397 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:52,360 stalls full of the local produce along the quayside. You know, they'd have, 398 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,000 like, stuffed camels and... 399 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,260 And along the line, there was a stall full of fezzes, green and red fezzes. 400 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,080 And leaning against the stall was this Arab chap in the full gear with the very 401 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,600 dubious woodbine with the green smoke. 402 00:27:07,420 --> 00:27:10,680 And this British chap and his wife were walking down towards this stall, 403 00:27:10,820 --> 00:27:14,680 talking. And as they got near, the Arab fellow said, You British? 404 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,400 The rogue said, Yeah. 405 00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:18,960 And he put a red fez on and he went, Oh. 406 00:27:20,020 --> 00:27:21,720 The rogue said, Did you know him? 407 00:27:22,180 --> 00:27:23,180 He said, Who? 408 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,440 He said, Tommy Cooper. 409 00:27:24,540 --> 00:27:25,540 He said, no. 410 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,760 He said, why did you do that? He said, everyone from Britain puts a fez on and 411 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,760 goes, ah. 412 00:27:30,860 --> 00:27:31,860 What a tribute, eh? 413 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,020 Tommy was highly regarded by the others because he seemed to break all the 414 00:27:36,020 --> 00:27:40,700 rules. Even the other comedians couldn't quite work out what it was. 415 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:46,060 And that was the joy of Tommy. You could never in the final analysis work out 416 00:27:46,060 --> 00:27:47,060 what it was. 417 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,300 The tricks, the mumbling, the bumbling. All right, that's a good formula, but... 418 00:27:52,670 --> 00:27:57,110 There's an X factory in there somewhere that the great ones have got, and you 419 00:27:57,110 --> 00:28:01,730 never work it out, and neither should you. We mustn't know what it is, really, 420 00:28:01,870 --> 00:28:03,210 or else the magic will have gone. 421 00:28:03,710 --> 00:28:04,710 Keep it going, boys. 422 00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:05,870 Keep it going now. 423 00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:07,650 That's it. Loud and loud. 424 00:28:08,010 --> 00:28:09,790 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. 425 00:28:11,890 --> 00:28:14,710 Don't jump off the roof, Dad. 426 00:28:15,550 --> 00:28:18,350 You'll make a hole in the yard. 427 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Mother just planted petulias. The weeding and seeding was 428 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,080 hard. 429 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:36,120 If you must end it all, Dad, won't you please give us 430 00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,120 a break? 431 00:28:37,860 --> 00:28:44,560 Just take a walk to the park, Dad, and there you can 432 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,560 jump in the... 39129

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