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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,480 Previously on The Practice. 2 00:00:01,700 --> 00:00:04,440 I'm not crazy about helping the guy who killed my sister. 3 00:00:05,620 --> 00:00:08,580 All we're asking is that you talk about the internet thing. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,100 Boyfriend lives alone, brother, big house. Why not plan B them? It might be 5 00:00:13,100 --> 00:00:16,900 worth a try. Give them a soft plan B. Plan B, soft for both. 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,640 Did you murder your sister in frame, George Vogel? I'm watching! 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,360 Did you follow her to the bar, then go to the motel? That's sick! 8 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:24,960 You asked us to trust you. 9 00:00:28,970 --> 00:00:31,110 You just stole my son's innocence. 10 00:00:31,570 --> 00:00:33,770 I represent Steve Robin and his dad. 11 00:00:34,530 --> 00:00:36,150 We're suing you. What? 12 00:00:36,530 --> 00:00:37,530 Steve Robin? 13 00:00:37,670 --> 00:00:39,950 Yeah, brother of the victim in your Vogelman trial. 14 00:00:40,210 --> 00:00:43,850 Eugene accused him of being the killer. I can paint a pretty disgusting picture 15 00:00:43,850 --> 00:00:45,210 of you guys in front of a jury. 16 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:46,610 Team plan B? 17 00:00:46,950 --> 00:00:50,470 You take us to court and I promise you we will be screaming he is the killer 18 00:00:50,470 --> 00:00:54,110 over again. And in the court of public opinion, he will be the killer. 19 00:00:54,590 --> 00:00:57,910 Now get your ass out of this office and go tell your clients that truth is a 20 00:00:57,910 --> 00:00:59,450 complete defense to defamation. 21 00:00:59,990 --> 00:01:01,490 These are your scare tactics. 22 00:01:05,730 --> 00:01:08,070 Eugene, Tommy Silva agreed to depose you here. 23 00:01:08,350 --> 00:01:10,930 Probably so he doesn't have to spring for the coffee this skimp. 24 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:15,930 I ordered a cake for Rebecca's swearing -in party. Oh, I'm sure she'll be very 25 00:01:15,930 --> 00:01:16,950 surprised. Oh, very. 26 00:01:17,150 --> 00:01:18,150 She asked for chocolate. 27 00:01:18,290 --> 00:01:20,970 I can't be worrying about cakes now. Have you finished with the pleadings 28 00:01:20,970 --> 00:01:21,970 folder? In your bag. 29 00:01:22,050 --> 00:01:23,850 Are you sure you don't want somebody in a second chair? 30 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,100 No, it was just a burglar I can handle. Well, who's covering the depot? 31 00:01:27,340 --> 00:01:29,740 Me. But we really should be getting outside counsel. 32 00:01:29,980 --> 00:01:33,600 We will if it goes to trial, but for discovery... Well, for a client, that's 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,499 what they say. 34 00:01:34,500 --> 00:01:35,500 Thank you, Lucy. 35 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,520 This will be a short deposition, trust me. 36 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,220 It's not like I'm going to answer anything. 37 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,560 Yeah, well, what if Silva goes for obstruction of justice? It's really in 38 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:43,560 days. 39 00:01:54,570 --> 00:01:56,490 We can go right into my office. 40 00:01:56,690 --> 00:01:58,250 Hi, Lucy Hatcher. 41 00:01:59,230 --> 00:02:00,230 Evelyn Mayfield. 42 00:02:00,430 --> 00:02:03,750 I take it you've met Jimmy. I can introduce you to the others later. 43 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:13,170 The baby shaker, right? 44 00:02:13,710 --> 00:02:14,710 Client, Lucy. 45 00:02:14,930 --> 00:02:16,210 Client. Right. 46 00:02:16,650 --> 00:02:17,650 The baby shaker. 47 00:02:17,850 --> 00:02:18,850 Client. 48 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:20,930 Good handshake. 49 00:02:22,130 --> 00:02:23,130 Strong wrists. 50 00:03:11,470 --> 00:03:14,590 The results of the psychiatric exam are supposed to be in this afternoon. 51 00:03:14,990 --> 00:03:17,910 And assuming she checks out, they'll let her go. 52 00:03:18,110 --> 00:03:19,110 Oh, no. 53 00:03:19,310 --> 00:03:20,750 I passed the polygraph. 54 00:03:20,990 --> 00:03:24,690 Lie detectors aren't foolproof as far as they're concerned. We discussed this. 55 00:03:25,510 --> 00:03:28,670 Plus, dead baby, they are not about to just let you go. 56 00:03:29,010 --> 00:03:30,870 Well, how about they arrest the one who did it? 57 00:03:31,830 --> 00:03:33,410 I mean, would they ever consider that? 58 00:03:33,710 --> 00:03:37,910 I'll know more by the end of the day. For now... Remain calm. Yes, I know. 59 00:03:38,990 --> 00:03:42,910 They accused me of killing an 11 -month -old child. But I should take it in 60 00:03:42,910 --> 00:03:45,350 stride. I should just stay calm. 61 00:03:46,370 --> 00:03:47,870 Their case is weak. 62 00:03:48,250 --> 00:03:51,210 The fact that they gave you bail, they know their case is weak. 63 00:03:52,070 --> 00:03:53,230 Let's just ride this out. 64 00:03:54,110 --> 00:03:56,690 And yes, stay calm. 65 00:04:06,350 --> 00:04:08,250 I was walking towards the side entrance. 66 00:04:08,750 --> 00:04:11,950 when I saw a man exiting the warehouse with an armful of laser disc players. 67 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:13,810 About how far apart were you at the time? 68 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:15,250 About seven or eight yards. 69 00:04:15,550 --> 00:04:16,550 And what happened next? 70 00:04:16,790 --> 00:04:20,450 I called out for him to stop. He dropped what he was carrying and ran towards 71 00:04:20,450 --> 00:04:21,269 the alley. 72 00:04:21,269 --> 00:04:25,090 We're instructed not to put our lives on the line to protect property, so he got 73 00:04:25,090 --> 00:04:27,350 away. How is the lighting in this area? 74 00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:30,030 There's a light above the door. I got a very good look at him. 75 00:04:30,230 --> 00:04:31,490 Do you see this man today? 76 00:04:31,870 --> 00:04:32,870 He's the defendant. 77 00:04:33,830 --> 00:04:36,510 How many laser disc players was the burglar carrying? 78 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:41,460 Four. Still in boxes? Yes, ma 'am. So his face was covered when you saw him. 79 00:04:42,380 --> 00:04:47,760 Four boxes, each about ten inches high, must have at least partially covered his 80 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,660 face. But then he dropped him when he ran. 81 00:04:50,620 --> 00:04:51,900 He ran toward you? 82 00:04:52,220 --> 00:04:55,420 No, away. But there was a moment before he ran. I caught a look. 83 00:04:55,700 --> 00:04:56,700 A moment? 84 00:04:57,820 --> 00:05:00,720 Seconds. Seconds? More than ten seconds? 85 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,100 No. More than five? 86 00:05:03,460 --> 00:05:04,820 It was like two or three seconds. 87 00:05:05,150 --> 00:05:07,030 Two or three seconds. But I got a very good look. 88 00:05:07,290 --> 00:05:09,030 There's no questions before you, ma 'am. Move to strike. 89 00:05:11,610 --> 00:05:16,550 Did you have any conversations with Steve Robin prior to his testimony in 90 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:17,550 Vogelman murder trial? 91 00:05:18,130 --> 00:05:21,870 Yes. Did you discuss what questions you would probably ask him? 92 00:05:22,250 --> 00:05:26,530 Yes. Did you tell him that you planned to accuse him in court as the one who 93 00:05:26,530 --> 00:05:28,670 killed his sister? Work product. Don't answer. 94 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,460 At the time you were having these discussions with Steve Robin, did you 95 00:05:34,460 --> 00:05:35,740 accuse him of killing his sister? 96 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:36,839 Work product. 97 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:40,380 All objections have been waived. Not on privilege. We've got it on record. All 98 00:05:40,380 --> 00:05:43,220 objections except to the form of the question. Of course we're not going to 99 00:05:43,220 --> 00:05:45,040 reveal internal... We can get a court order. Fine. 100 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Do it. 101 00:05:46,700 --> 00:05:48,260 But for now, I just move on. 102 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,220 Are you familiar with the term plan B? 103 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,679 Work product. 104 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,080 I'm just asking if he's familiar with the term. And I answered. 105 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:00,920 Work product. 106 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,240 Move on. 107 00:06:03,980 --> 00:06:08,320 When you accused Steve Robin in open court of possibly being the one who 108 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,380 his sister, what facts did you rely on? 109 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,600 Work product. 110 00:06:14,260 --> 00:06:15,640 This the way we're going to play it? 111 00:06:17,940 --> 00:06:18,940 Sorry, off the record. 112 00:06:20,860 --> 00:06:21,920 You're suing us. 113 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,220 You expect us to play nice? 114 00:06:28,340 --> 00:06:29,340 Did she do it? 115 00:06:29,630 --> 00:06:31,790 Lucy. Because I saw it on court TV. 116 00:06:32,290 --> 00:06:37,250 And they did this reenactment. And she just shook and shook and shook. Lucy. 117 00:06:38,250 --> 00:06:39,250 Come on, Bobby. 118 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:40,810 Throw me a crumb. 119 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:42,610 Did she do it? 120 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:43,710 She didn't. 121 00:06:44,690 --> 00:06:46,070 Because I saw it on court TV. 122 00:06:47,250 --> 00:06:49,770 She just shook and shook. 123 00:06:49,970 --> 00:06:50,970 Lucy. 124 00:06:52,250 --> 00:06:53,690 You should know what people are saying. 125 00:06:58,310 --> 00:06:59,970 We did okay, but it's close. 126 00:07:01,410 --> 00:07:02,510 I think you gotta testify. 127 00:07:03,490 --> 00:07:06,030 But you said if I take the stand, the DA can bring up my record. 128 00:07:06,290 --> 00:07:07,290 Yeah, he can. 129 00:07:08,350 --> 00:07:13,030 Well... If they find out I got two priors, won't they think I did this one? 130 00:07:13,230 --> 00:07:14,890 They might, but I don't see much choice. 131 00:07:17,050 --> 00:07:20,910 Okay. How is it we can't find one witness that saw you at the bar that 132 00:07:21,250 --> 00:07:24,070 It was crowded, and I'd only been there that one time. Who's gonna remember? 133 00:07:24,290 --> 00:07:25,930 Without a witness, it's like you don't have an alibi. 134 00:07:29,570 --> 00:07:30,570 What? 135 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:34,010 Russell, now is not the time to be hiding things. 136 00:07:35,910 --> 00:07:38,130 A buddy of mine was with me at the bar that night. 137 00:07:39,690 --> 00:07:41,070 But... But what? 138 00:07:41,410 --> 00:07:43,050 He's got a record. He don't want to get involved. 139 00:07:43,570 --> 00:07:46,670 Russell, you are looking at a conviction here. Third time, it'll mean jail. 140 00:07:47,190 --> 00:07:50,530 If he really is a buddy, he's got to come forward. 141 00:07:55,790 --> 00:07:59,650 How do you find out we called Plan B? It's not exactly a trade secret. We're 142 00:07:59,650 --> 00:08:03,090 kind of famous for it. He's going for a court order? Lindsay basically answered 143 00:08:03,090 --> 00:08:04,490 work product to every question. 144 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:05,810 It was work product. 145 00:08:06,090 --> 00:08:08,990 We'll be armed with the research because Pap hates discovery motions. 146 00:08:09,490 --> 00:08:11,010 We'll be ready. Look, look, look. 147 00:08:12,470 --> 00:08:14,430 Mayfield could begin this month. 148 00:08:14,950 --> 00:08:19,610 Sources say that they're far apart from any deal. You remember Miss Mayfield is 149 00:08:19,610 --> 00:08:23,890 charged with shaking to death an 11 -month -old child that was entrusted to 150 00:08:23,890 --> 00:08:26,740 care. Turning to the... What's the deal on her? 151 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,560 I think she's innocent. 152 00:08:28,940 --> 00:08:31,280 Oh, come on. All this church stuff she's into? 153 00:08:31,580 --> 00:08:34,120 Nobody could be that Christian without being a little vicious. 154 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:35,960 Do you ever say anything thoughtful? 155 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,679 Look, all I'm saying is she had very strong wrists for a babysitter. Whether 156 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,520 that passes for thoughtful, you be the judge. 157 00:08:46,300 --> 00:08:48,300 So you guys were together the whole night? 158 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:51,640 Yeah. And a bar called Little Freddy's from 11 till closing? 159 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:52,739 Yeah, that's right. 160 00:08:52,740 --> 00:08:54,800 I'm a little curious why you didn't come forward before. 161 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,220 I mean, this is your best friend we're talking about. Now, I understand you 162 00:08:58,220 --> 00:09:01,000 a record. Miss Washington, I got a decent job. 163 00:09:02,260 --> 00:09:09,060 If it got out that... It was a sexual assault conviction 164 00:09:09,060 --> 00:09:13,000 in 92, back in New York under another name. 165 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:15,700 What'd you do? 166 00:09:15,780 --> 00:09:16,960 I said I raped a girl. 167 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,460 Anyway, let's just say I don't need that coming of light, you know? 168 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:22,640 Okay, I understand. 169 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:24,920 But Russell needs you. 170 00:09:26,660 --> 00:09:29,380 This is your friend. He will go to prison. 171 00:09:31,060 --> 00:09:32,960 Will they find out about my conviction? 172 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,200 It's a small case. 173 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,320 The odds are they aren't going to do a big background check on some burglary 174 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,320 trial. 175 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:42,500 But there is a chance, yeah. 176 00:09:45,260 --> 00:09:46,540 Leave it in about 20 minutes. 177 00:09:46,780 --> 00:09:47,780 Need anything else? 178 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:53,480 No. Okay. 179 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:55,500 Night. 180 00:10:01,860 --> 00:10:03,200 Rebecca. Huh? 181 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:06,540 Oh, um, night. 182 00:10:24,339 --> 00:10:27,500 Eugene, Bobby, I think I may have a problem. What? 183 00:10:28,220 --> 00:10:33,700 My client, I mean, my trial, you know, the burglary, Russell Thurm? Yeah. 184 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,820 I think he's a serial killer. 185 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,180 Really? Excuse me? I can't be sure, but I mean, I think. 186 00:10:40,380 --> 00:10:41,299 What's going on? 187 00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:42,520 Rebecca's client's a murderer. 188 00:10:42,860 --> 00:10:43,819 Close the door. 189 00:10:43,820 --> 00:10:46,280 I think he's one of the harbor stranglers everybody's talking about. 190 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,100 Who? My client. 191 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,620 I just got finished meeting with his alibi witness. 192 00:10:52,430 --> 00:10:54,490 I told Russell that we needed a witness. 193 00:10:54,690 --> 00:10:57,910 And he told me that he was in a bar with this other guy, Ronzoni, who I just met 194 00:10:57,910 --> 00:10:58,910 with. Slow down. 195 00:10:59,410 --> 00:11:01,130 Okay. This Ronzoni. 196 00:11:01,570 --> 00:11:04,470 I think he's the other serial killer. I saw his arm. 197 00:11:04,750 --> 00:11:05,750 What did he tell you? 198 00:11:06,610 --> 00:11:09,130 Well, he didn't tell me anything. What do you think he's going to tell you? 199 00:11:09,130 --> 00:11:11,150 Don't go around admitting that you're a serial killer. I mean, he's not some 200 00:11:11,150 --> 00:11:13,990 serial confessor. Rebecca, slow down. 201 00:11:14,750 --> 00:11:15,830 Okay. Okay. 202 00:11:17,070 --> 00:11:18,670 Ronzoni. Has a tattoo. 203 00:11:19,070 --> 00:11:20,070 Dice. 204 00:11:20,330 --> 00:11:21,279 Right there. 205 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,280 It's in all the papers. 206 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,720 One of the harbor stranglers has a dice tattoo on his arm. Yeah, that's true. 207 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,640 I've heard that. And he also has a sexual assault conviction. 208 00:11:30,060 --> 00:11:32,400 He raped a girl. That doesn't mean... No, no. 209 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:36,880 August 14th, Russell and Ranzoni are at a bar on Franklin until 2 in the 210 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,880 morning. Michelle Cummings, the prostitute, was killed that night. Now, 211 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:41,389 it up. 212 00:11:41,390 --> 00:11:45,930 She was last seen around 2 on the corner of 18th and Franklin, which is just 213 00:11:45,930 --> 00:11:50,170 three blocks from their bar. Now, I've got a rapist with a tattoo near the 214 00:11:50,170 --> 00:11:52,750 of the crime. You're going to tell me that doesn't add up? I mean, now we know 215 00:11:52,750 --> 00:11:54,890 he didn't knock off a video store. He was busy killing somebody. 216 00:11:55,290 --> 00:11:56,730 So, do we call the police? 217 00:11:57,250 --> 00:12:00,690 Well... They're serial killers. Hold on. Unless someone is in immediate 218 00:12:00,690 --> 00:12:02,220 danger... Who? 219 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,820 Any young girl that's who. I don't think you can reasonably believe someone's in 220 00:12:06,820 --> 00:12:10,800 danger unless you first know that these are the serial killers. And just on a 221 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,400 tattoo... Even if they are, who's to say they're going to do it again? 222 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,720 Of course they're going to do it again. They're serial killers. That's why 223 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,760 they're called serial killers. They keep doing it. 224 00:12:19,460 --> 00:12:20,460 What do you think? 225 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,020 Well, if you knew these were the guys, that'd be one thing, maybe, but... Why 226 00:12:24,020 --> 00:12:26,560 don't we just turn in Ranzoni? He's not my client. 227 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,300 You'll end up implicating Russell. 228 00:12:29,060 --> 00:12:30,900 Did you read what they did to those girls? 229 00:12:34,670 --> 00:12:37,710 I'm not sure we can do anything yet. Bobby, how can we not do anything? 230 00:12:37,950 --> 00:12:42,430 All you got is a belief that your client and his alibi witness are bad guys. 231 00:12:43,310 --> 00:12:44,310 So I do nothing. 232 00:12:45,150 --> 00:12:46,370 You defend your client. 233 00:12:52,150 --> 00:12:55,870 Asking them what they believe that the time is not invading work product. Of 234 00:12:55,870 --> 00:12:59,530 course it is. When our beliefs are based on internal discussions made between 235 00:12:59,530 --> 00:13:02,410 each other. Take a look at the transcript of the deposition, Judge. 236 00:13:02,410 --> 00:13:03,410 wouldn't answer anything. 237 00:13:03,710 --> 00:13:07,790 They also asserted work product to almost every request we made for 238 00:13:07,790 --> 00:13:10,870 production. Documents that were generated in preparation... That's not 239 00:13:10,870 --> 00:13:11,870 fly, Miss Dole. 240 00:13:12,370 --> 00:13:14,390 You're not going to sweep everything under work product. 241 00:13:14,610 --> 00:13:18,030 All this stuff falls under our strategy in defending... Yeah, and it's your 242 00:13:18,030 --> 00:13:19,710 strategy that you're being sued for. 243 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:23,790 You can't pierce work product. If you could, then... Look, this is a simple 244 00:13:23,790 --> 00:13:24,790 cause of action. 245 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,440 He's saying that you didn't have a good faith belief for pointing your finger at 246 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,500 the brother. He's entitled to explore that. It isn't that simple. If you 247 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:33,180 allow... I'm making it that simple. 248 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:38,860 Now, you answer all of these questions truthfully, completely, or I'll enter a 249 00:13:38,860 --> 00:13:40,140 judgment for the plaintiff right now. 250 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,020 I'd appeal it right now. Get it certified to SJC. And if we lose, then 251 00:13:47,020 --> 00:13:49,280 right back before this guy who will be even more angry than he already is. You 252 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,020 weren't afraid of pissing off Judge Hiller in the Pearson trial? That was 253 00:13:52,020 --> 00:13:55,060 the verdict, Eleanor. This guy's the trial judge. We can't be answering 254 00:13:55,060 --> 00:13:57,660 questions about the judge who's biased against us. We're dead. 255 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,000 Table it. 256 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:05,500 Hey, guys. 257 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:11,280 Look, I know this sounds self -serving, but like I'm trying to have it both 258 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,350 ways. Truth is, I really don't like suing other lawyers. 259 00:14:15,890 --> 00:14:18,590 Especially a small firm. I feel like we're from the same club. 260 00:14:20,890 --> 00:14:24,390 That aside, I am suing you, and you guys face some serious exposure. 261 00:14:24,890 --> 00:14:27,170 Not just money -wise, but public relations, too. 262 00:14:27,630 --> 00:14:28,630 Be smart. 263 00:14:29,010 --> 00:14:30,010 Settle this. 264 00:14:30,290 --> 00:14:32,850 I won't push for anything beyond your policy limit. 265 00:14:34,590 --> 00:14:35,690 You know I'm right. 266 00:14:37,090 --> 00:14:38,090 Let's not be silly. 267 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,520 You've given it a lot of thought. Oh, isn't this just a little too incestuous? 268 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,020 I've slept with Bobby Donald. My roommate is Lindsay Dole. And you've 269 00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:55,140 against him before, sir. Yes, which has never proven to be a very good idea. 270 00:14:55,380 --> 00:14:59,340 I know it's asking a lot, but there's a lot of heat here. Dead babies make good 271 00:14:59,340 --> 00:15:01,640 coffee. Do you know how much of a personal life I have? 272 00:15:02,180 --> 00:15:06,420 Lindsay's my best friend. Bobby's a friend, too. They just sandbagged you in 273 00:15:06,420 --> 00:15:08,320 open court. That was Eleanor Frutt. 274 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:09,840 Helen. 275 00:15:13,710 --> 00:15:17,770 You better than anybody know this firm. You're the only DA we have that seems to 276 00:15:17,770 --> 00:15:18,770 be able to beat them. 277 00:15:19,310 --> 00:15:20,310 We need you. 278 00:15:22,150 --> 00:15:26,150 I tendered his name as soon as I became aware of him. It's unfair surprise, Your 279 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:29,330 Honor. There's no real surprise, Your Honor. This witness corroborates my 280 00:15:29,330 --> 00:15:32,990 client's alibi. The defendant obviously feels he's losing, so he found someone 281 00:15:32,990 --> 00:15:37,710 to lie for him. I don't understand why, if this is your client's friend, you 282 00:15:37,710 --> 00:15:38,990 didn't know about him any sooner. 283 00:15:40,460 --> 00:15:44,520 Your Honor, as soon as I became aware of this witness, as soon as I had the 284 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,120 opportunity to talk with him, I tendered his name. 285 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,120 I'll cut you a little slack this time. I'll grant a continuance until 9 o 286 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,800 tomorrow so you can prepare for the witness. 287 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,340 The report was not right. 288 00:16:03,860 --> 00:16:04,860 What do you mean? 289 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,080 The psychiatrist thinks you could be in denial. 290 00:16:09,770 --> 00:16:13,630 What? He makes room for the possibility that you don't even have a memory of it. 291 00:16:13,650 --> 00:16:14,930 That's why you passed a polygraph. 292 00:16:16,950 --> 00:16:22,670 You're saying that I committed a murder, but I don't have a memory of it? 293 00:16:23,170 --> 00:16:24,690 It was a court -ordered report. 294 00:16:25,030 --> 00:16:27,510 It can't be introduced, so I'm not even worried about it. 295 00:16:28,090 --> 00:16:31,330 But it doesn't encourage the DA to let you go either. 296 00:16:32,570 --> 00:16:34,990 Speaking of which, we just got a little more bad news there, too. 297 00:16:36,490 --> 00:16:38,330 Helen Gamble will be prosecuting. 298 00:16:39,210 --> 00:16:41,950 Who's Helen Gamble? One of their best on homicides. 299 00:16:43,070 --> 00:16:44,890 She and I also used to be involved. 300 00:16:45,210 --> 00:16:49,530 She lives with another lawyer at my firm. She knows us all very well. I 301 00:16:49,530 --> 00:16:50,830 that's why she's been put on. 302 00:16:51,150 --> 00:16:52,530 But it's not all bad. 303 00:16:53,370 --> 00:16:54,750 I know her style, too. 304 00:16:55,650 --> 00:16:57,790 You've tried cases against her before? 305 00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:59,230 Several times. 306 00:16:59,470 --> 00:17:00,550 Who usually wins? 307 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:04,670 It comes down more to the facts than the lawyers. 308 00:17:04,930 --> 00:17:05,930 So she usually wins? 309 00:17:06,109 --> 00:17:08,150 Their case is very circumstantial and... 310 00:17:08,589 --> 00:17:11,710 That since you were the last one with the baby... The father did it. 311 00:17:12,050 --> 00:17:13,849 People have seen him be abusive. 312 00:17:14,050 --> 00:17:16,890 But Kevin was with you when he stopped breathing. 313 00:17:18,490 --> 00:17:22,770 It may not be proof you did it, but it sure as hell gets reasonable doubt to 314 00:17:22,770 --> 00:17:23,770 father. 315 00:17:27,030 --> 00:17:28,850 That's why they're prosecuting me, isn't it? 316 00:17:30,830 --> 00:17:33,710 The public wants a conviction, and I'm the only one they can get. 317 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,460 I want you to talk to everybody, anybody who knows her. Our whole defense might 318 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:51,820 be it's not in her character. 319 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:55,000 Okay. Eleanor, I'd like you to go for the medicals, see if anything's 320 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,460 unanswered, pre -existing conditions. 321 00:17:56,820 --> 00:17:59,840 The cause of death isn't in question, Bobby. The autopsy was... I don't want 322 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,940 assume that. If the autopsy is accurate, fine, but let's not be giving them the 323 00:18:02,940 --> 00:18:03,940 benefit of the doubt. 324 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,020 Is it just me, or is this a perfect plan B? 325 00:18:08,260 --> 00:18:11,600 We've got an abusive father, and we're just running scared because we got sued. 326 00:18:11,980 --> 00:18:14,820 Nobody's running scared. We'll go after the father if we have to. 327 00:18:16,530 --> 00:18:17,550 What's the deal on the other? 328 00:18:18,370 --> 00:18:19,530 Eugene's depot resumes tomorrow. 329 00:18:19,770 --> 00:18:20,509 Two o 'clock. 330 00:18:20,510 --> 00:18:22,110 May I make a very unpopular suggestion? 331 00:18:22,530 --> 00:18:23,309 Forget it. 332 00:18:23,310 --> 00:18:26,870 If we were representing another firm being sued for this, we would absolutely 333 00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:27,829 recommending settlement. 334 00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:29,190 It's not another firm. It's us. 335 00:18:29,610 --> 00:18:33,370 Our policy limit is 1 .5. Suppose the jury slaps us with a $3 million 336 00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:36,550 It's not just everything in this office we lose. We're named personally. 337 00:18:36,850 --> 00:18:40,230 They'll take our cars, our refrigerators. If we settle this, it's 338 00:18:40,230 --> 00:18:43,270 of liability that will be headlines in every legal publication. 339 00:18:43,570 --> 00:18:46,930 That's not true. It is true, Lindsay. And on principle, how do we cave? Forget 340 00:18:46,930 --> 00:18:50,290 principle. I'm talking about surviving. Which we won't do without principle. 341 00:18:50,490 --> 00:18:54,310 Now, the practice of law may only amount to a conference table to you. With me, 342 00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:56,130 it's more. All right. Who are you kidding? 343 00:18:56,590 --> 00:19:00,070 You stood up in open court and accused a brother of killing his sister. You're 344 00:19:00,070 --> 00:19:04,150 going to claim the high road? We all agreed to plan B to God. A soft plan B. 345 00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:05,149 went for the throat. 346 00:19:05,150 --> 00:19:06,150 Now we're getting sued. 347 00:19:06,730 --> 00:19:10,050 You not only owe an apology to that kid, you owe one to the rest of us here. 348 00:19:10,110 --> 00:19:12,930 Will you put at risk? Hey, Lindsay, you're the one who first told us to go 349 00:19:12,930 --> 00:19:14,270 the brother. Not like that I didn't. 350 00:19:14,530 --> 00:19:15,970 I said raise the question. 351 00:19:16,910 --> 00:19:19,050 A jury is going to kill us. All right, that'll do. 352 00:19:21,850 --> 00:19:25,070 At a minimum, Lindsay may be right about outside counsel. 353 00:19:26,030 --> 00:19:27,650 I'm going to look to bring somebody else in. 354 00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:35,630 Should I send it back? 355 00:19:36,090 --> 00:19:37,910 I mean, it's supposed to be chocolate. 356 00:19:38,390 --> 00:19:40,290 This is German chocolate. 357 00:19:41,530 --> 00:19:43,170 Puke. Will she care? 358 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:46,570 Jimmy, it's got coconut bits. 359 00:19:46,830 --> 00:19:51,110 It's just a cake, Lucy. How often does a person get sworn in to be a lawyer? 360 00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:53,270 You know, this is a big thing, Jimmy. 361 00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:57,690 You don't celebrate big things with... German puke coconut bit chocolate. 362 00:20:01,230 --> 00:20:02,230 Cereal killer. 363 00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:03,310 I'm on break. 364 00:20:06,170 --> 00:20:07,170 Can I help you? 365 00:20:07,230 --> 00:20:09,770 Uh, yeah, I'm looking for a Rebecca Washington. 366 00:20:10,170 --> 00:20:11,430 Mr. Ronzoni. Yeah. 367 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:15,430 Uh, look, I'm having some second thoughts about this. Can I do this, 368 00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:16,910 affidavit or, uh... I don't think you can. 369 00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:18,610 Suppose they dig up my record. 370 00:20:18,810 --> 00:20:21,570 You have already done your time for that. They can't do anything. 371 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,900 Look, I will just ask you a few questions. Keep it short. 372 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,180 What questions exactly? 373 00:20:31,460 --> 00:20:35,220 Do you recall where you were on August 14th at 1 .30 in the morning? 374 00:20:35,740 --> 00:20:41,020 Uh, yeah. I was at Little Freddy's, a bar on Franklin near the corner of 15th. 375 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:43,060 Did anyone accompany you to the bar that night? 376 00:20:43,380 --> 00:20:45,280 Yes. Russell Thurm. 377 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,720 We arrived together around 11 and left together about 2. 378 00:20:51,180 --> 00:20:54,400 From 11 till 2, were you ever apart from Mr. Thurm? 379 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,040 Other than a couple minutes for a bathroom run, no. 380 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,800 Well, how can you be sure that it was August 14th that you were together? 381 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:02,580 Well, I have a credit card receipt. 382 00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:06,720 Is this the receipt you are referring to? 383 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,580 Yeah. Mark and identify, Your Honor. 384 00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:15,360 Mark, Exhibit 7. Could you please read the highlighted portion? 385 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,920 Little Freddy's. 386 00:21:18,879 --> 00:21:25,460 $31 .78, Peter T. Ronzoni, August 14th, 1998, 1 .57 a .m. 387 00:21:27,220 --> 00:21:28,220 Thank you. 388 00:21:30,380 --> 00:21:33,120 Russell Thurm's name appears nowhere on this receipt, does it? 389 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,160 Well, why would his name be on my receipt? 390 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,260 So all the receipt proves is that you were in the bar that night, doesn't it? 391 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,560 Objection. Sustained. 392 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,360 Do you consider Russell Thurm a friend? 393 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,720 Yeah. A good friend? 394 00:21:44,220 --> 00:21:45,220 I guess. 395 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,400 You don't want to see your good friend go to jail, do you? 396 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,760 No. 397 00:21:49,460 --> 00:21:51,580 Stayed in that bar until two, huh? Yes. 398 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:53,280 Didn't leave before closing. 399 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,040 Right. 400 00:21:56,380 --> 00:21:57,380 Right. 401 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:07,680 I really appreciate you talking to me. 402 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,080 You know, Mr. Berluti, my entire congregation would have been here if you 403 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,080 asked them. 404 00:22:12,460 --> 00:22:15,600 You don't think Evelyn could have done this. It's beyond any possibility. 405 00:22:16,780 --> 00:22:20,660 I won't throw around the saint word, but Evelyn Mayfield is not only a 406 00:22:20,660 --> 00:22:23,020 gentlewoman, she's one of the most loving. 407 00:22:24,180 --> 00:22:27,120 She's probably babysat the children of over half the congregation. 408 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:35,000 Nobody has ever complained that she had a temper or, you know, used corporal 409 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,020 punishment? No. 410 00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:40,340 Mr. Berluti, they're still calling her to babysit. 411 00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:44,920 Now, I may not be the world's best judge of character, but they've got the wrong 412 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:45,920 person. 413 00:22:47,660 --> 00:22:49,220 You know the father of the victim. 414 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,160 I do. He's in the congregation. 415 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,960 You think he could have done this? 416 00:22:55,180 --> 00:22:57,240 I really don't feel comfortable commenting on that. 417 00:22:58,780 --> 00:23:02,060 He saw that he was basically unaccounted for at the time of the crime. 418 00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:03,380 That raised suspicion. 419 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,200 Did you have any evidence of Steve Robin having a history of violence? 420 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,760 No, but that doesn't mean... The answer to the question was no. 421 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,280 Doesn't mean what? 422 00:23:11,980 --> 00:23:13,040 The answer was no. 423 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,820 Are you familiar with the term plan B? 424 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,960 This is word product. 425 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,960 If we go back before the judge... I don't want to be giving this away. Just 426 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,960 the answer we discussed. 427 00:23:30,980 --> 00:23:32,600 Yes, I'm familiar with the term. 428 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,600 Could you define it, please? 429 00:23:36,540 --> 00:23:40,040 Sometimes when we have clients who we feel did not commit the crime with which 430 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,700 he or she is charged... 431 00:23:41,900 --> 00:23:45,280 Instead of simply aiming to establish reasonable doubt, which we would 432 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,920 plan A, we endeavored to raise the possibility of perhaps another suspect 433 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,240 had motive and opportunity to commit the crime. 434 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,420 We call that plan B. 435 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,120 You point the finger at somebody else. 436 00:23:58,260 --> 00:23:59,260 Yes. 437 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:04,120 And in the Vogelman trial, you pointed the finger at Steve Robin. We raised the 438 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,100 question as to his motive and opportunity. 439 00:24:08,180 --> 00:24:10,340 It went okay. I think we have a good shot. 440 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:12,750 What happens next? 441 00:24:13,530 --> 00:24:15,150 Closing argument, then we wait for the verdict. 442 00:24:15,370 --> 00:24:16,830 Well, I'm not going to be here for any of that, Bryce. 443 00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:18,190 No. 444 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:19,630 Hello? 445 00:24:24,170 --> 00:24:25,170 What? 446 00:24:26,110 --> 00:24:27,450 I taped as much as I could. 447 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:34,000 Shaw is believed to be the 10th victim of the now infamous Harbor Stranglers. 448 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,860 15, she would also be the youngest victim of these grisly killers. 449 00:24:38,140 --> 00:24:42,020 Though police are releasing few details at this hour, we do know this. 450 00:24:42,260 --> 00:24:45,580 Her naked body was found by a homeless man on Tuesday. 451 00:24:45,780 --> 00:24:50,320 At this hour, it appears Ms. Shaw was abducted while walking home from a 452 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,320 friend's house. 453 00:24:53,550 --> 00:24:55,470 It doesn't change anything, Beck. 454 00:24:55,710 --> 00:24:59,090 It doesn't change anything, Bobby. They just killed somebody else. You don't 455 00:24:59,090 --> 00:25:00,089 know it was them. 456 00:25:00,090 --> 00:25:03,530 You don't know they're the killers. You don't know they're going to hurt 457 00:25:03,530 --> 00:25:05,830 somebody else. You have no legal right to do anything. 458 00:25:06,350 --> 00:25:09,750 Legal? What about moral right? That oath you're about to take tomorrow has 459 00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:12,810 nothing to do with moral right. Both of these spoken just like a true defense 460 00:25:12,810 --> 00:25:14,610 attorney. But you are on this case. 461 00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:31,670 is the worst part of the job, Rebecca. 462 00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:36,270 But it does go with the job. 463 00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:41,310 I know you know because you've seen me and Eugene and everybody here agonize 464 00:25:41,310 --> 00:25:42,830 over this same kind of situation. 465 00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:51,190 The reason you're so frustrated is... is because you know 466 00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:53,470 you don't have a choice. 467 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,040 My feeling is she's very much the wonderful person they claim. A wonderful 468 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,480 person who shook a baby to death. Well, that's why I think denial is possible. 469 00:26:04,740 --> 00:26:08,860 It would be unconscionable to hurt a child, inconceivable to her that she 470 00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:09,499 hurt him. 471 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:12,120 So if she snapped, she may have blocked it out. 472 00:26:12,900 --> 00:26:15,920 I'm hearing too many ifs. I'm not walking into court with if. 473 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,900 Did she do this or not? 474 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:20,340 I'm not saying she did it. You're saying she did. 475 00:26:20,660 --> 00:26:23,000 What's going on? Did you not find she was in denial? 476 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:26,720 You asked me to evaluate this person to determine if she was psychologically 477 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,720 capable. We asked you, in your professional opinion, if she committed 478 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,660 Well, that's ridiculous to ask me that. I don't know the facts. All right, all 479 00:26:34,660 --> 00:26:35,660 right, hold on. 480 00:26:36,660 --> 00:26:40,960 If you don't think she did it, how the hell do you find her to be in denial? 481 00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:43,840 Look, Miss Gamble, I don't need... All right, Doctor, just tell us. 482 00:26:45,860 --> 00:26:47,860 I found a pattern of denial with her. 483 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,860 When she's pushed, she retreats into God and her religion. There were certain 484 00:26:51,860 --> 00:26:55,900 memory lapses she couldn't account for, but I don't think she was lying. 485 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,380 I'm very confused here. 486 00:26:58,740 --> 00:27:02,320 The baby died in her custody. There are things she didn't remember. My suspicion 487 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,120 is her memory is blocked. 488 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,660 And she's the one blocking it. 489 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,360 I want to offer manslaughter. 490 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,040 Go ahead. 491 00:27:17,930 --> 00:27:18,930 Come in. 492 00:27:22,330 --> 00:27:23,330 Ms. Washington? 493 00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:29,690 I'd like to withdraw from the case. 494 00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:34,170 On what grounds? 495 00:27:35,070 --> 00:27:36,070 Irreconcilable differences. 496 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:37,810 You're going to have to do better. 497 00:27:41,830 --> 00:27:46,450 Hypothetically, let's just say a lawyer has reason to believe his client is a 498 00:27:46,450 --> 00:27:47,450 serial killer. 499 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,640 Would that be legal cause? 500 00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:55,120 Is your client asking you to commit a crime or fraud? 501 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,780 No. Your request to withdraw is denied. 502 00:28:00,980 --> 00:28:03,360 Hypothetically, what if he's about to commit a crime? 503 00:28:03,580 --> 00:28:04,660 You have knowledge of that? 504 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:08,900 Well, not specific knowledge, but common sense. Common sense? 505 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,600 You realize you violated your ethical obligations coming in here with this? 506 00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:20,190 You asked whether I had legal cause. I just posed a hypothetical. Counsel, I'm 507 00:28:20,190 --> 00:28:25,170 going to give you the benefit of intelligence and assume that you knew 508 00:28:25,170 --> 00:28:28,390 you walked in here that you didn't have cause. 509 00:28:28,770 --> 00:28:34,700 Look, if a client doesn't pay, that... That's legal cause to withdraw. I 510 00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:39,540 something a little more fierce like rape or murder might qualify too. Yes, and 511 00:28:39,540 --> 00:28:42,680 you figured if you couched it as a hypothetical, you could make an end run 512 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,840 around the legal ethics and that maybe I would pass on the information to the 513 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,760 police. You were wrong. 514 00:28:49,020 --> 00:28:50,840 Suppose he kills somebody else. Counsel. 515 00:28:53,580 --> 00:29:00,480 Did you come in here for me to make it easier for you? 516 00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:03,540 I will. 517 00:29:04,460 --> 00:29:06,520 Go and prepare your closing. 518 00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:12,020 And if I have the slightest suspicion that you are not vigorously defending 519 00:29:12,020 --> 00:29:17,780 client, I will, I promise you, turn you over to the board of bar overseers. I 520 00:29:17,780 --> 00:29:21,660 will report that you passed on information prejudicing your client, 521 00:29:21,660 --> 00:29:25,020 tried to bias me against him, and that you threw the case. 522 00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:28,480 And you won't even make it to tomorrow's ceremony. 523 00:29:33,460 --> 00:29:36,160 Man slaughter best we can do. She didn't do it, Helen. 524 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,920 Coroner's telling me she did. 525 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,820 It was the father. Oh, come on, Bobby. Don't you think we'd like it to be the 526 00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:44,860 father? History of abuse, tendency towards violence. 527 00:29:45,140 --> 00:29:46,400 He was the obvious suspect. 528 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,560 But the doctors tell us the death was immediate. 529 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:52,380 Evelyn Mayfield was the only one there. 530 00:29:53,620 --> 00:29:55,920 Is it true her church is paying her legal fees? 531 00:29:56,860 --> 00:29:57,860 Yeah. 532 00:29:59,260 --> 00:30:01,280 Helen, friend to friend. 533 00:30:01,630 --> 00:30:04,310 Oh, yeah, let's trade on that truck thing I've got going with your office. 534 00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:05,630 I think she's innocent. 535 00:30:05,890 --> 00:30:06,990 Bobby, you always do. 536 00:30:07,290 --> 00:30:08,570 And you always think they're guilty. 537 00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:10,890 Well, that's probably why we didn't work out. 538 00:30:15,870 --> 00:30:18,830 I'll give you manslaughter. 539 00:30:22,990 --> 00:30:23,990 Miss Washington? 540 00:30:26,190 --> 00:30:30,470 Miss Washington? 541 00:30:43,980 --> 00:30:48,780 This may seem like just a simple burglary case, but there's much more at 542 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,240 I promise you that. 543 00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:59,160 It's the integrity of our criminal justice system. 544 00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:04,260 That system is designed to preserve people's rights. 545 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:06,940 We go to great lengths to do that. 546 00:31:08,140 --> 00:31:12,640 One right is that someone can't be found guilty without proof. 547 00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:15,020 beyond a reasonable doubt. 548 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,120 What do we have here? 549 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:24,720 A nighttime ID, boxes covering the burglar's face, the security guard 550 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,900 momentary glimpse. 551 00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:29,260 That is their entire case. 552 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:35,560 Not a big part, not most, but their entire case. 553 00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:38,020 A few seconds. 554 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,200 As the suspect was running away in the opposite direction with boxes blocking 555 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,940 his face beyond a reasonable doubt? 556 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,020 Add to that, my client has an alibi. 557 00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:57,320 Mr. Ronzoni placed him at a bar at the exact time of the crime. 558 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,760 Yes, they're friends. 559 00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:03,340 But he had a credit card receipt, didn't he? 560 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,040 The DA... 561 00:32:05,630 --> 00:32:10,710 is going to try to get you to believe the security guard more than my client's 562 00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:11,710 alibi witness. 563 00:32:11,890 --> 00:32:16,850 Even if you do, that is not enough to convict. 564 00:32:17,390 --> 00:32:22,690 Remember, your verdict here isn't one of those news magazine polls where you 565 00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:25,070 dial a 900 number and give your opinion. 566 00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:27,570 You're here to uphold an oath. 567 00:32:28,090 --> 00:32:31,610 An oath that's the very essence of our jury system. 568 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:39,060 We don't take away a man's freedom unless the state satisfies a burden of 569 00:32:39,060 --> 00:32:44,700 They didn't they didn't even come close 570 00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:50,180 I 571 00:32:50,180 --> 00:32:56,760 Don't know about you, but I always find a little suspicious when 572 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:03,240 defense lawyers start waxing about oaths and Integrity of systems and burdens of 573 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,300 proof, they usually mean they're short on facts. 574 00:33:07,860 --> 00:33:10,960 Our system isn't to turn criminals loose. 575 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,580 Integrity isn't relying on the credit card receipt of a suspect's buddy who 576 00:33:16,580 --> 00:33:18,060 makes an 11th hour appearance. 577 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,220 Your oath here was to serve justice. 578 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:29,320 We have an eyewitness, an eyewitness who saw that man with the laser disc 579 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,320 players. 580 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:31,480 Come on. 581 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,280 I agree that there is more at stake here than a simple burglary. 582 00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:39,240 I also agree that there's some integrity on the line. 583 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,560 Yours. 584 00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:50,020 Sorry. 585 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,800 How'd she do? I think pretty well. 586 00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:57,060 Okay, I've consulted three lawyers, all guys I trust, all three. 587 00:33:57,780 --> 00:33:58,780 Say settle. 588 00:33:58,980 --> 00:33:59,980 What? 589 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,380 People in this case, let's call them jurors, aren't crazy about lawyers to 590 00:34:05,380 --> 00:34:08,980 with. It's not likely they'll be too sympathetic to qualified immunity 591 00:34:08,980 --> 00:34:12,860 arguments. Add to that the facts, pinning the victim's one brother. Add to 592 00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:16,260 Tommy Silva, Joe Red Sox fan who juries love. 593 00:34:16,820 --> 00:34:21,820 The consensus is for us to cut our losses and to get out. What we did in 594 00:34:21,820 --> 00:34:23,159 courtroom is protected. 595 00:34:23,380 --> 00:34:27,000 And I'm not running from Tommy Silva. We've beaten bigger guys than him. We've 596 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,380 never been people who run scared. 597 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,060 I won't bend over for this. 598 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,780 I want to fight. So do I. 599 00:34:32,260 --> 00:34:33,260 I say settle. 600 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:35,600 Jimmy? 601 00:34:35,860 --> 00:34:36,860 I say fight. 602 00:34:37,340 --> 00:34:42,960 Of course, I'm not a partner. I'm not at risk like everybody else, including 603 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,460 Rebecca, who's not even sworn in yet. 604 00:34:44,940 --> 00:34:46,239 I'm just an associate. 605 00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,000 I keep going back to what if we lose. 606 00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:51,820 It's not just a case. 607 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,320 I don't think... And it's not just a conference table. 608 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,440 This could be our whole practice. 609 00:34:56,820 --> 00:34:57,960 Then we start over. 610 00:34:58,420 --> 00:34:59,420 Whatever we do. 611 00:35:00,030 --> 00:35:01,450 It can't be a decision out of ego. 612 00:35:01,650 --> 00:35:03,930 I want to fight. We have to fight it. 613 00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:07,870 Okay. 614 00:35:11,090 --> 00:35:13,670 Jimmy, you're first chair. What? What? What? 615 00:35:14,250 --> 00:35:18,290 Sylvia Stiles, I'm just a regular guy. Jimmy's our best guy to counter that. 616 00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:23,770 He's regular, too. Yeah, well, if that's... Look, no offense, Jimmy, but 617 00:35:23,770 --> 00:35:27,630 our best at our best. Shouldn't you be doing it? I mean, he's good. I mean, 618 00:35:27,650 --> 00:35:28,650 you're great. 619 00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:30,240 But we need our... Best. 620 00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:32,340 Jimmy will first chair. 621 00:35:33,020 --> 00:35:34,020 I'll second. 622 00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:36,220 Anything else? 623 00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:40,220 Okay, back to work. 624 00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:42,340 Mommy, Evelyn Mayfield's here with her husband. 625 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,800 Who died? 626 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,720 How long we gotta wait? 627 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,260 Well, they'll only go for another hour, then suspend till tomorrow. 628 00:35:56,380 --> 00:35:57,980 You guys got plans or something? 629 00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:06,090 They've offered manslaughter. 630 00:36:07,070 --> 00:36:08,910 It's something that we should consider. 631 00:36:11,830 --> 00:36:14,950 Surely you're not suggesting she plead guilty. 632 00:36:15,170 --> 00:36:19,590 What I'm suggesting is they have a medical case indicating that the child 633 00:36:19,590 --> 00:36:20,750 almost immediately. 634 00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:23,550 That will be tough for us to explain. 635 00:36:24,270 --> 00:36:29,170 And there's a risk of a murder to conviction. That's 20 years, maybe more. 636 00:36:30,050 --> 00:36:33,090 Manslaughter, good behavior, you could be out in three. 637 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,800 But I didn't do this. 638 00:36:35,580 --> 00:36:39,640 I know this doesn't sound great, but whether you did it or not doesn't really 639 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:40,640 matter. 640 00:36:41,260 --> 00:36:42,260 Does it matter? 641 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:44,020 Of course it matters on one level. 642 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,960 In terms of deciding how to proceed here, what I have to weigh is the 643 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,340 prosecution's chances of convicting you. 644 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,260 Your innocence is almost... almost irrelevant there. 645 00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,080 As I said, they have a circumstantial case, but in my opinion... 646 00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:06,130 A motion will be against you. 647 00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:10,150 I'm not crazy about rolling the dice. 648 00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:12,790 Not with 20 years. 649 00:37:17,130 --> 00:37:18,630 I didn't shake that baby. 650 00:37:20,210 --> 00:37:23,430 And I'm sitting with one of the best criminal lawyers in the city and he's 651 00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:24,430 telling me to plead guilty. 652 00:37:24,610 --> 00:37:28,050 I'm telling you, you could be looking at guilty. 653 00:37:30,210 --> 00:37:32,210 That baby came to me crying. 654 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,140 After about ten minutes, I was finally able to console him. 655 00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:42,120 I rocked him until he fell asleep. 656 00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:45,500 I put him in his crib. 657 00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:52,680 I came back in about 15 minutes, and he was dead. 658 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,100 If I'm convicted of killing him, then so be it. 659 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:01,280 But I didn't kill him. 660 00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:03,320 I know it. 661 00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:05,070 And God knows it. 662 00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:08,170 And I suspect that that child's father knows it. 663 00:38:09,170 --> 00:38:14,050 And I will not say that I did do it just to get less jail time. 664 00:38:23,930 --> 00:38:24,930 Okay. 665 00:38:26,670 --> 00:38:27,850 Then we go to trial. 666 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:37,840 Will the defendant please rise? 667 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,060 Members of the jury, have you reached a verdict? 668 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:43,800 We have, Your Honor. 669 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,220 What say you? 670 00:38:46,260 --> 00:38:48,240 In the matter of Commonwealth v. 671 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:53,560 Russell Thurm, on the charge of breaking and entering at night, we find the 672 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,060 defendant, Russell Thurm, not guilty. 673 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,740 The jury is dismissed with the thanks of the court. We're adjourned. 674 00:39:34,609 --> 00:39:35,609 Yeah. Not guilty. 675 00:39:35,830 --> 00:39:38,950 Really? She's on her way to the ceremony now, which, by the way, we better get a 676 00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:40,810 move on. Jimmy, Bobby, let's go. 677 00:39:41,250 --> 00:39:42,250 Hey, we've got time. 678 00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:44,210 It's Washington, W. 679 00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:46,790 They'll be calling her at the end. Yeah, we should be there at the beginning. 680 00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:48,150 Let's go. 681 00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:50,210 Hey, Jimmy, you got a sec? 682 00:39:53,450 --> 00:39:54,610 I didn't mean to put you down. 683 00:39:55,790 --> 00:39:58,410 It's just that this case is so much on the line. 684 00:40:00,790 --> 00:40:02,190 Please don't misunderstand me. 685 00:40:04,210 --> 00:40:05,570 I understand you perfect. 686 00:40:16,350 --> 00:40:18,230 Can you believe she's about to be sworn in? 687 00:40:19,870 --> 00:40:21,510 Hey, you think I should go to law school? 688 00:40:21,730 --> 00:40:22,730 No. 689 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,820 China rain, I like that. Helen wears that. 690 00:40:27,540 --> 00:40:28,760 I'm not wearing China rain. 691 00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:32,980 I wear Slovakian snow. 692 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,600 We hugged alone. 693 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:41,920 Please rise. 694 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,240 Raise your right hand and repeat after me. 695 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,920 I, your name, solemnly swear that I will do no falsehood. 696 00:40:53,140 --> 00:40:59,630 Aye. Rebecca Washington, solemnly swear that I will do no fault to... 697 00:40:59,630 --> 00:41:02,730 Nor consent to the doing of any in court. 698 00:41:03,090 --> 00:41:06,450 Nor consent to the doing of any in court. 699 00:41:06,770 --> 00:41:13,570 I will not wittingly or willingly promote or sue any false, groundless, or 700 00:41:13,570 --> 00:41:14,570 unlawful suit. 701 00:41:14,810 --> 00:41:21,190 I will not wittingly or willingly promote or sue any false, 702 00:41:21,390 --> 00:41:22,550 groundless... 703 00:41:24,020 --> 00:41:29,000 I will conduct myself in the office of an attorney within the courts, 704 00:41:29,260 --> 00:41:36,100 according to the 705 00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:43,060 best of my knowledge and discretion, and 706 00:41:43,060 --> 00:41:47,840 with all fidelity, as well to the courts as my clients. 707 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:53,200 As well, of course, as my clients. 708 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,100 So help me God. 709 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,900 So help me God. 710 00:41:58,500 --> 00:41:59,500 Congratulations. 711 00:42:00,260 --> 00:42:02,740 You're all officially members of the bar. 59328

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