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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,640 Previously, on The Practice. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:03,120 What? 3 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,660 There's a head in the bag. 4 00:00:04,900 --> 00:00:07,700 The woman I met at the bar last night. What are you doing with her head? 5 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:08,860 Somebody put it in there. 6 00:00:09,020 --> 00:00:11,900 George Vogelman, you are under arrest for the murder of Susan Robin. 7 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,120 The guy who killed your girlfriend is not George Vogelman. Part of their case 8 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,180 the notion that Susan could never have gone off on someone nighter. 9 00:00:19,500 --> 00:00:22,740 Can you think of anything that could explain why she would? 10 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:28,060 I had been a little unfaithful to Susan. 11 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,439 As I said to your dad, I'm convinced they got the wrong guy. That means that 12 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:35,820 this thing was either a mission to frame George Volkman or somebody was after 13 00:00:35,820 --> 00:00:39,360 your sister. Is it possible that your sister could have kept some part of her 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,119 life secret? 15 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,320 She did spend a lot of time on the Internet. 16 00:00:42,980 --> 00:00:47,820 Your guy was last seen with her. He had her head. If George Volkman didn't do 17 00:00:47,820 --> 00:00:50,600 it, he certainly represents reasonable doubt for whoever did. 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,039 What did you say? 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,680 They're not going to reopen the investigation. 20 00:00:54,540 --> 00:00:57,900 I don't give orders to the police on how to investigate their case. I'm asking 21 00:00:57,900 --> 00:00:59,500 you to order them to investigate, period. 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,100 Well, I can't order them to keep looking if they're convinced they have the 23 00:01:03,100 --> 00:01:07,160 killer. If their thinking is suspect, we have the device to deal with that. 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,820 We call it the trial. 25 00:01:12,420 --> 00:01:15,260 Jay, I really appreciate your willingness to testify. 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,620 I'm not going to be that much help, Ms. Frett. 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,100 Can't say I think your client is innocent. 28 00:01:20,380 --> 00:01:24,480 I know, but you are the only one who can supply a possible reason why your 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,700 girlfriend would have gone to a motel with George Vogelman. 30 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,900 I'm not crazy about helping the guy who killed my sister. 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,060 All we're asking is that you talk about the Internet thing. 32 00:01:36,980 --> 00:01:41,480 I can't. Dr. Roberts, you know George Vogelman better than anybody. 33 00:01:41,900 --> 00:01:44,500 But I wouldn't be able to say that I truly know him. 34 00:01:45,060 --> 00:01:47,300 I see him at work. I... 35 00:01:48,190 --> 00:01:52,670 Look, his being arrested for this crime, it's hurt the whole office. 36 00:01:53,470 --> 00:01:57,870 I really don't want to step into a witness chair and associate our medical 37 00:01:57,870 --> 00:02:00,750 corporation with any... He was an usher at your wedding. 38 00:02:05,070 --> 00:02:08,550 And I couldn't imagine him doing what they're accusing him of. 39 00:02:10,090 --> 00:02:14,610 But nor could I imagine his taste for pornography or his going home from bars 40 00:02:14,610 --> 00:02:15,610 with strangers. 41 00:02:15,870 --> 00:02:20,310 Ed backed... All I could testify to is that I thought I knew him. 42 00:02:22,050 --> 00:02:23,670 Even his friends have pulled away. 43 00:02:23,930 --> 00:02:24,930 What have you got? 44 00:02:25,090 --> 00:02:28,190 No history of violence, reputation for honesty, came forward on his own 45 00:02:28,190 --> 00:02:29,190 volition. Loner. 46 00:02:29,450 --> 00:02:30,470 Advertises in the personal. 47 00:02:30,750 --> 00:02:32,210 Likes poor enough. Keeps to himself. 48 00:02:32,510 --> 00:02:33,510 All right. 49 00:02:33,870 --> 00:02:37,530 How many friends or associates you talk to? A dozen, maybe more. Anybody say 50 00:02:37,530 --> 00:02:39,350 they really knew the guy? I mean, completely? 51 00:02:39,770 --> 00:02:40,770 No. 52 00:02:41,290 --> 00:02:42,930 Great. Okay, this is what I think. 53 00:02:43,310 --> 00:02:47,030 They go to the motel, then this woman rejected him at the wrong time. Maybe he 54 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:49,430 felt sexually humiliated or whatever. 55 00:02:49,650 --> 00:02:52,130 This is the ultimate ridicule. And then he snapped. 56 00:02:52,450 --> 00:02:54,610 Chopped off her head. Now, what's he gonna do? 57 00:02:54,830 --> 00:02:58,050 He's got no chance of getting away with it. He's got a better shot at making it 58 00:02:58,050 --> 00:03:02,010 look like he was framed. So he sticks her head in his medical bag and the big 59 00:03:02,010 --> 00:03:03,010 show begins. 60 00:03:03,090 --> 00:03:06,670 Loner. Foot doctor. He did it. Got mad, lost his head. 61 00:03:06,890 --> 00:03:08,150 The loner. Is that it? 62 00:03:08,370 --> 00:03:09,370 Anything else? 63 00:03:09,450 --> 00:03:12,150 There's no death penalty in Massachusetts, right? 64 00:04:00,590 --> 00:04:01,590 Keep your head up, George. 65 00:04:01,910 --> 00:04:04,630 Don't be shaking it. No, no, no. Just keep your head up. 66 00:04:05,330 --> 00:04:08,410 They're going to tell their story, and then we're going to get to tell ours. 67 00:04:09,670 --> 00:04:10,670 Okay. 68 00:04:12,190 --> 00:04:13,230 Bathroom, anybody need to go? 69 00:04:13,670 --> 00:04:14,670 All set. 70 00:04:14,770 --> 00:04:15,770 I went. 71 00:04:17,430 --> 00:04:18,430 Okay. 72 00:04:23,170 --> 00:04:24,550 Last seen with her. 73 00:04:25,210 --> 00:04:27,330 Her severed head was in his possession. 74 00:04:27,950 --> 00:04:29,910 Her blood was in his car. 75 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:37,000 As our case will show, there is not one piece, not one piece of physical or 76 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:43,060 testimonial evidence that points to anybody other than George Vogelman. 77 00:04:43,060 --> 00:04:48,500 because George Vogelman gruesomely, hideously murdered Susan Robin. 78 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,040 It's not even a question. 79 00:05:02,890 --> 00:05:06,490 Sometimes how things look are not how they are. 80 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:10,350 And there's a reason we bother with the trial. 81 00:05:10,910 --> 00:05:16,270 All we ask is that you be objective and you pay close attention to everything 82 00:05:16,270 --> 00:05:17,270 you hear. 83 00:05:26,690 --> 00:05:27,810 Mr. Tisbury. 84 00:05:30,530 --> 00:05:33,010 Commonwealth calls Helen Gamble to the stand. 85 00:05:34,370 --> 00:05:37,370 His attorneys called and asked me to come down to their offices. 86 00:05:37,910 --> 00:05:41,690 Why did they call you, Ms. Gamble? One of the attorneys there is my roommate, 87 00:05:41,850 --> 00:05:42,850 another one I've dated. 88 00:05:43,030 --> 00:05:45,850 So they figured in you they'd get a sympathetic district attorney. 89 00:05:46,350 --> 00:05:50,450 I don't think they were expecting special treatment. They wanted to 90 00:05:50,450 --> 00:05:52,670 client and hoped I could help them do it quietly. 91 00:05:53,010 --> 00:05:55,090 Did they tell you any details about the case? 92 00:05:55,330 --> 00:05:58,790 No, they simply asked me to come to the offices. They said it was serious. 93 00:05:59,310 --> 00:06:00,390 So you went? Yeah. 94 00:06:00,810 --> 00:06:02,970 And what happened after you got there? 95 00:06:03,450 --> 00:06:08,330 They took me into a room and informed me that their client had a human head in 96 00:06:08,330 --> 00:06:09,330 his medical bag. 97 00:06:09,390 --> 00:06:10,390 How did you respond? 98 00:06:10,930 --> 00:06:12,350 I thought they were joking. 99 00:06:12,770 --> 00:06:14,230 Then they pointed to the bag. 100 00:06:16,110 --> 00:06:17,110 Is this the bag? 101 00:06:17,470 --> 00:06:19,770 Yes. Mark and identify, Your Honor. 102 00:06:20,350 --> 00:06:21,430 Marked. Exhibit 1. 103 00:06:21,910 --> 00:06:25,790 And what happened next, Ms. Gamble? They asked me to look in the bag. 104 00:06:26,070 --> 00:06:27,070 And did you? Yes. 105 00:06:27,170 --> 00:06:28,310 And what did you see? 106 00:06:29,450 --> 00:06:30,510 A human head. 107 00:06:34,190 --> 00:06:41,150 Now, Miss Gamble, if I could... You've got to be kidding me. 108 00:06:41,350 --> 00:06:42,350 Objection! 109 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:48,590 Counsel, is what's in that cooler what I think it is? Chain of custody, Your 110 00:06:48,590 --> 00:06:51,050 Honor. I object to that! In chambers, counsel. 111 00:06:51,490 --> 00:06:53,310 Members of the jury, ten minutes. 112 00:06:53,810 --> 00:06:54,810 Let's go. 113 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,920 Just bringing that thing in is grounds for a mistrial. You want a mistrial on 114 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,440 the first witness, Eleanor? That's a stunt to inflame the jury. 115 00:07:12,700 --> 00:07:14,400 Would it be all right if I talk? 116 00:07:16,260 --> 00:07:21,400 It better be good. Your Honor, the fact that this is so grotesque, it's 117 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,400 relevant. How? 118 00:07:22,700 --> 00:07:24,680 He had it in his bag. 119 00:07:25,370 --> 00:07:29,270 Anybody who could carry something like that around, it's evidence of the kind 120 00:07:29,270 --> 00:07:31,470 psychotic mind that goes with the very crime. 121 00:07:31,690 --> 00:07:34,870 First of all, he didn't know it was in his bag. Even under your theory, he 122 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:40,330 didn't do it. He knowingly had it in his bag for more than three hours before he 123 00:07:40,330 --> 00:07:44,650 called. Because he panicked. You make your arguments, I'll make mine. Your 124 00:07:44,650 --> 00:07:49,530 Honor, they'll be saying he behaved like an innocent man. As soon as he saw it, 125 00:07:49,550 --> 00:07:52,010 he called the police. Well, that's not what he did. 126 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:57,500 He carried it back to his car, drove to his lawyer's office, carried it up the 127 00:07:57,500 --> 00:08:01,580 elevator. You can introduce all that without bringing the head into court. He 128 00:08:01,580 --> 00:08:05,900 wants to horrify the jury, Your Honor. I maintain that's relevant. A reasonable 129 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:10,340 person would be horrified. A reasonable person would repulse and not even 130 00:08:10,340 --> 00:08:14,620 approach the bag again, much less pack it up, go to the car. Counsel. It's 131 00:08:14,620 --> 00:08:19,020 legitimate for the jury to experience some of the horror so they can assess 132 00:08:19,020 --> 00:08:21,540 what's a reasonable reaction under the circumstances. 133 00:08:22,270 --> 00:08:23,610 The head is inadmissible. 134 00:08:24,290 --> 00:08:28,050 I want him sanctioned in open court, Your Honor. The cooler alone... Why 135 00:08:28,050 --> 00:08:30,810 you just be satisfied with my ruling and leave it there? 136 00:08:37,750 --> 00:08:39,350 That's just ice settling. 137 00:08:44,670 --> 00:08:48,510 He then gave me the address of the motel that he and the victim had gone to. 138 00:08:48,790 --> 00:08:49,790 And did you go there? 139 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,200 Yes, along with Detective McCrew and Attorney Frutt. We went there and 140 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,200 discovered the body. 141 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,900 Mr. Vogelman cooperated at all times, did he not? 142 00:08:59,140 --> 00:08:59,919 Yes, he did. 143 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:03,520 In fact, the only reason you or the police know a crime had even been 144 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,480 is because Mr. Vogelman came forward. 145 00:09:05,740 --> 00:09:06,740 That's true. 146 00:09:08,860 --> 00:09:11,220 And blood scrapings from the floorboards of his car. 147 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:14,280 Exact genetic match with the victim. 148 00:09:14,780 --> 00:09:18,780 They seemed friendly at the bar, but there was nothing sexual going on. Did 149 00:09:18,780 --> 00:09:20,160 leave your bar together, sir? 150 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,340 No, he left, and then she left about 10 or 15 minutes later. 151 00:09:25,540 --> 00:09:28,380 My daughter was not a promiscuous woman. 152 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:34,560 Well, even if she would go to a bar, which I guess she did, I couldn't ever 153 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:37,280 her going back to a motel with some guy she just met. 154 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,500 Plus... Plus what? 155 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,040 Sorry, but... 156 00:09:43,450 --> 00:09:45,830 He's kind of old and not very good looking. 157 00:09:48,490 --> 00:09:52,030 The only samples in the room belong to the victim or the defendant. 158 00:09:52,250 --> 00:09:55,190 So if somebody else did go in there... It had to be immaculate. 159 00:09:55,950 --> 00:09:56,950 It's happened? 160 00:09:57,210 --> 00:09:59,530 Murders leaving behind no physical evidence whatsoever? 161 00:09:59,910 --> 00:10:00,910 It has happened? 162 00:10:01,010 --> 00:10:04,070 Yes, but the odds of... It's happened? Yes or no, detective? 163 00:10:06,090 --> 00:10:07,090 Yes. 164 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,020 And detective, you're familiar with a serial killer known as the poet? 165 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,720 We don't believe that. The question is, are you familiar with a serial killer 166 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:19,800 known as the poet? 167 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:26,620 Yes. Again, yes or no. This person decapitates his victims, yes or no? 168 00:10:27,620 --> 00:10:28,620 Yes. 169 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,680 But you ruled him out. 170 00:10:32,180 --> 00:10:36,380 The poet severs the hands as well and leaves the head behind. 171 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,480 He doesn't take it with him. 172 00:10:41,710 --> 00:10:43,370 It's gone as well as can be expected. 173 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:44,750 This is going well? 174 00:10:45,070 --> 00:10:48,730 Even I'm beginning to think I'm guilty. Look, everything they put in, we were 175 00:10:48,730 --> 00:10:49,629 ready for. 176 00:10:49,630 --> 00:10:52,550 It's not like they put up some surprise witness that said you've done some 177 00:10:52,550 --> 00:10:54,050 strange things to cats or something. 178 00:10:55,370 --> 00:10:56,710 George, you know what I mean. 179 00:10:57,530 --> 00:11:01,790 We've expected all of this testimony. It's not that it's not damaging, but 180 00:11:01,790 --> 00:11:03,190 haven't been any surprises. 181 00:11:03,810 --> 00:11:04,810 So what now? 182 00:11:06,810 --> 00:11:07,930 We might want to rest. 183 00:11:08,190 --> 00:11:11,940 Rest? Well, think about it. All they've proven is two things. He was with her. 184 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,780 He had her head. Pretty good proof. Ask me. No weapon. No eyewitness. They tied 185 00:11:15,780 --> 00:11:19,520 him to a corpse, not a crime. You can't rest on that. Look, I'm not saying it's 186 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,040 a thing to do, but let's face it. What do we have? 187 00:11:22,340 --> 00:11:23,340 A nice guy? 188 00:11:23,540 --> 00:11:26,820 Maybe we should just say to the jury, hey, we were ready to put on a defense, 189 00:11:27,060 --> 00:11:30,500 but since they didn't make their burden, we don't need to. That is such a risk. 190 00:11:30,580 --> 00:11:32,660 We already spring on the idea of the poet. Internet? 191 00:11:32,940 --> 00:11:35,360 Maybe a stalker? You can't rest. Pretty lame. I don't know. 192 00:11:35,689 --> 00:11:38,730 Eugene, he looked completely guilty. You can't just get up and say they didn't 193 00:11:38,730 --> 00:11:39,830 make their burden. That's stupid. 194 00:11:40,050 --> 00:11:43,090 Well, maybe we could say he involuntarily cut a head off five times. 195 00:11:43,090 --> 00:11:46,510 really funny. I didn't call you stupid. I said it would be stupid to rest. All 196 00:11:46,510 --> 00:11:47,510 right. 197 00:11:48,450 --> 00:11:50,590 Eleanor, what do you think? 198 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:54,010 Well, I see Eugene's point, but I don't think a jury is going to let him go on a 199 00:11:54,010 --> 00:11:55,010 burden of proof thing. 200 00:11:55,070 --> 00:11:58,890 I think our best defense is George. He's honest, and he plays honest. If George 201 00:11:58,890 --> 00:12:00,090 didn't do it, then who? 202 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:03,700 It's not our job to answer that question. Well, I realize this, but it's 203 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:06,700 question I keep asking, and the jury's going to be asking it back in that room. 204 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:13,560 Hold on, hold on. If I understand your thinking on this, Eleanor, the police 205 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,160 basically stopped looking. That should be your defense. 206 00:12:16,620 --> 00:12:19,900 The only reason we don't know who else, if not George, is because the police 207 00:12:19,900 --> 00:12:21,180 never asked that question. 208 00:12:21,580 --> 00:12:24,700 That's what you have to key on. The guy had her head in his bag. We're going to 209 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:26,620 put the police on trial for not asking who else? 210 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:28,520 You guys are playing games. 211 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,400 At the end of the day, he had her head. 212 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,100 That's got nothing to do with any faulty investigation. 213 00:12:34,980 --> 00:12:36,500 He had her head. 214 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,160 So tell us what to do, Einstein. 215 00:12:38,500 --> 00:12:40,360 You know something, Lindsay? You've been bitchy a lot lately. 216 00:12:40,820 --> 00:12:43,980 That's why you can't be playing these indulgences. I agree with Jimmy. I'm a 217 00:12:43,980 --> 00:12:48,220 bitch? On his defense theory, you have to defend George. You can't be attacking 218 00:12:48,220 --> 00:12:48,979 the police. 219 00:12:48,980 --> 00:12:49,980 We got to do both. 220 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:54,220 We got to put George up, let him be as convincing as he can be, and we got to 221 00:12:54,220 --> 00:12:55,300 open the door to other possibilities. 222 00:12:55,740 --> 00:12:56,740 Excuse me. Hello. 223 00:12:57,380 --> 00:12:59,580 Boyfriend lives alone, brother, big house. 224 00:12:59,940 --> 00:13:03,780 So? So, the murder took place between 1 and 3 a .m. Why weren't they considered? 225 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,640 They were checked out. They're both choir boys. 226 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,120 Yeah, but still, no official alibi if everyone's asleep. 227 00:13:09,020 --> 00:13:10,080 Why not plan B them? 228 00:13:11,660 --> 00:13:12,700 They're going to testify anyway. 229 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,560 What's plan B? It might be worth a try. Give them a soft plan B. 230 00:13:17,900 --> 00:13:18,900 What's plan B? 231 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,160 Talk about a risk. 232 00:13:20,420 --> 00:13:21,420 You got any better ideas? 233 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:25,500 All right, but first, we have to be sure it won't backfire. Comb every report. 234 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,300 Make sure it's really available. They both gave statements. 235 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:30,540 Hey, second. You take the point, man. I got the brother. 236 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,680 What the hell is plan B? 237 00:13:36,180 --> 00:13:39,500 Basically, it means we point the finger at other people. It's very dangerous 238 00:13:39,500 --> 00:13:42,760 because normally when the defense starts hatching theories of their own, the 239 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,560 jury can shift the burden back to us, which we definitely do not want. 240 00:13:46,990 --> 00:13:48,070 And when you say soft? 241 00:13:48,510 --> 00:13:53,370 Our soft plan B is we do it more gently. Instead of accusing, it's more like 242 00:13:53,370 --> 00:13:54,370 what -if -ing. 243 00:13:54,490 --> 00:14:00,090 It's less likely to alienate the jury, but it's a risky strategy. 244 00:14:00,650 --> 00:14:01,650 Well, then why do it? 245 00:14:02,310 --> 00:14:04,270 Because we don't have much else to go with. 246 00:14:09,050 --> 00:14:10,050 What? 247 00:14:11,350 --> 00:14:14,250 The things that I've been reading about myself in the papers. 248 00:14:15,220 --> 00:14:17,840 I'm not a big fan of accusing people falsely. 249 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,980 George, this is a murder trial here. 250 00:14:25,180 --> 00:14:26,180 You're the defendant. 251 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,180 First, I want to thank you for testifying, Jay. 252 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,360 And second, I want to convey my sympathy. 253 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,380 You were Susan Robbins' boyfriend? 254 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,280 Yes. And you loved her? 255 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:41,680 I did. 256 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,080 Jay, we've heard a lot of testimony to the effect that it was uncharacteristic 257 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,220 for Susan to have gone to a bar alone, and especially to a motel with a man she 258 00:14:49,220 --> 00:14:50,940 had just met. Would you agree with that testimony? 259 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,640 Yes. I know this is a difficult question, and I thank you in advance for 260 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:56,640 honesty. 261 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,540 But you do know of a reason why she may have behaved uncharacteristically that 262 00:15:00,540 --> 00:15:01,540 night, don't you? 263 00:15:03,220 --> 00:15:04,360 A possible reason. 264 00:15:05,140 --> 00:15:06,380 Could you share that with us? 265 00:15:07,980 --> 00:15:08,980 Susan had... 266 00:15:09,660 --> 00:15:11,840 discovered me with another woman the day of her death. 267 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:20,080 So it could have been she went to a bar and then to a motel with another man out 268 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:20,699 of hurt? 269 00:15:20,700 --> 00:15:22,120 As a way of lashing back? 270 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:27,080 I don't think she would do that. I really don't. But I can't exclude the 271 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:28,080 possibility, no. 272 00:15:28,380 --> 00:15:32,220 Jay, do you have any information on Susan's death? No. 273 00:15:32,460 --> 00:15:33,880 You were home when this happened? 274 00:15:34,140 --> 00:15:37,880 Asleep? Excuse me, Your Honor. Could I confer with counsel one second? 275 00:15:38,510 --> 00:15:39,510 Make it fast. 276 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:47,970 Jimmy interviewed one of the cops. This guy supposedly was on the phone with the 277 00:15:47,970 --> 00:15:49,490 other woman until two in the morning. 278 00:15:49,870 --> 00:15:50,970 Why wasn't that in the report? 279 00:15:51,250 --> 00:15:53,830 I don't know, but you can't plan B and we'll get clipped. 280 00:15:55,810 --> 00:15:56,850 What about the brother? 281 00:15:58,190 --> 00:15:59,190 Still a shot there. 282 00:15:59,850 --> 00:16:00,850 I hope. 283 00:16:06,190 --> 00:16:07,770 Okay, Jay, that's all I have. 284 00:16:08,780 --> 00:16:10,580 What happened? He had an alibi. 285 00:16:10,900 --> 00:16:14,740 Look, it still went okay. Any idea that you maybe abducted her, we put a dent in 286 00:16:14,740 --> 00:16:17,340 that. These are very small victories, it seems. 287 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,380 Anything new on the brother? 288 00:16:19,780 --> 00:16:20,780 At all? 289 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,800 No. 290 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,380 I'd go... What? 291 00:16:24,740 --> 00:16:27,220 And look like a monster? I will soften it on clothes. 292 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,920 Go for him. 293 00:16:29,940 --> 00:16:32,420 Something about somebody on a chat line. 294 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:33,800 That's all she said. 295 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,600 Somebody she was having a relationship with on the internet? 296 00:16:37,219 --> 00:16:38,740 She didn't really give details. 297 00:16:38,940 --> 00:16:40,700 My sister and I weren't too close lately. 298 00:16:41,420 --> 00:16:42,420 Why was that? 299 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,420 Well, since my father had become ill, there was a lot of tension. 300 00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:50,400 I had a business that failed and had moved back home. She didn't think that 301 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:51,500 helping my dad's stress level. 302 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:56,300 It was just family stuff. The point is, we didn't share a lot of intimate 303 00:16:56,300 --> 00:16:57,300 secrets. 304 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,300 Do you think this stuff, your dad's illness, your business problems, could 305 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:03,980 have added to your sister's stress level? 306 00:17:04,190 --> 00:17:07,849 I'm sure they did. Maybe caused her to go to a bar just to have a drink, talk 307 00:17:07,849 --> 00:17:09,890 somebody? That I don't know. 308 00:17:10,190 --> 00:17:11,750 You didn't know she'd gone to a bar? 309 00:17:12,109 --> 00:17:13,369 Me? No. 310 00:17:13,589 --> 00:17:15,210 Or to a motel with Mr. Vogelman? 311 00:17:15,450 --> 00:17:17,050 No. How would I have known that? 312 00:17:17,550 --> 00:17:19,109 Well, you'd know if you'd followed her. 313 00:17:20,190 --> 00:17:22,210 What? Did you follow your sister that night? 314 00:17:22,530 --> 00:17:25,609 Objection. Permission to treat this witness as hostile, Your Honor. Your 315 00:17:25,670 --> 00:17:29,150 This witness is the brother of the victim. Permission to treat him as 316 00:17:32,010 --> 00:17:33,010 Go ahead. 317 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,340 This business failure of yours, did you incur any debt? Is there a point of 318 00:17:38,340 --> 00:17:40,440 proof? Sit down, Mr. Tisbury. 319 00:17:41,540 --> 00:17:43,260 How much money did you lose, Steve? 320 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,740 About $300 ,000. You owe this amount to people? I had investors, yes. 321 00:17:48,980 --> 00:17:51,140 Your father, he has liver cancer, isn't that right? 322 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,760 Yes. He was diagnosed with about eight months to live? 323 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:57,320 Yes. According to his will, if you know, who inherits the estate? 324 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,520 I guess me. 325 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:01,580 You guess you. 326 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,400 You're the sole beneficiary. 327 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,980 Yes. But if your sister was still alive, then there'd be two beneficiaries, 328 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,640 wouldn't there? What are you saying? 329 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,760 I'm saying that it works out well for you having your sister die before your 330 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,600 dad. What? If you'd outlived him, then your estate goes sideways, maybe split. 331 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:16,920 Objection! All right. 332 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:19,499 Mr. Young? 333 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:23,080 This witness has testified to his estrangement with his sister. He has 334 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,800 to his debt. He is also the only one to serve up the Internet, Red Herring. 335 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,040 Perhaps he uses a safety net in case suspicion ever fell to him. 336 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,120 Don't just strike all of that. I am entitled to question. 337 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,120 this witness go ahead 338 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:44,080 anybody with you the night 339 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:50,060 of your sister's murder Steve I was home my father was home were you home before 340 00:18:50,060 --> 00:18:56,600 your father went to bed no when did you get home probably around midnight did he 341 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,540 see you come in he goes to bed at 10 342 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,640 Ever take any medication for depression, Steve? 343 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,240 Objection. Overruled. You ever take any medication for a mental condition, 344 00:19:05,420 --> 00:19:06,420 Steve? 345 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:08,240 I take lithium. 346 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:09,479 For depression? 347 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,260 Yes. Did you murder your sister in frame, George Vogelman? 348 00:19:12,540 --> 00:19:15,000 Objection. Did you follow her to the bar and then go to the motel? 349 00:19:15,260 --> 00:19:18,560 Objection. Overruled. It was the perfect opportunity, wasn't it? You could get 350 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,900 George Vogelman's address by running down his place. After he leaves the 351 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,840 you go inside and make yourself a sole beneficiary and then go to plant the 352 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:26,840 in George's car. 353 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,560 You see the bag and think, ah. 354 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:29,880 Even better. 355 00:19:30,060 --> 00:19:33,600 Wipe out a debt and sibling rivalry all in a night's work. That's thick. 356 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,200 Did the police ever question you in connection with your sister's death? Of 357 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,000 course they didn't. They never even brought you down for questioning? No, 358 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,240 did not. Maybe you pulled off the perfect crime, Steve. 359 00:19:42,540 --> 00:19:44,340 Objection. That's staying. Maybe you're that good. 360 00:19:44,620 --> 00:19:45,640 Objection. You're drawn. 361 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,200 It's a shame they never checked you out. 362 00:20:10,830 --> 00:20:13,670 Well, the jury either really hates us... Or we created some doubt. 363 00:20:14,130 --> 00:20:15,390 I think you did great. 364 00:20:16,990 --> 00:20:18,630 Eleanor, the kid lost his sister. 365 00:20:18,990 --> 00:20:21,950 I just accused him of killing her meanwhile his dad is dying. 366 00:20:22,610 --> 00:20:24,830 Do not try to make me feel good. 367 00:20:34,110 --> 00:20:38,710 It's possible he could have done it. That's not important. What is, is you're 368 00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:39,710 next. 369 00:20:42,830 --> 00:20:47,870 Okay. George, you've got to just speak the truth from your heart. 370 00:20:48,430 --> 00:20:52,110 If the jury can see you for who you really are, they will have to question 371 00:20:52,110 --> 00:20:53,430 whether you could have done this. 372 00:20:53,730 --> 00:21:00,310 And remember, remember, remember, you cannot say anything that goes to your 373 00:21:00,310 --> 00:21:04,770 character. We cannot open that door. We cannot give them any chance to introduce 374 00:21:04,770 --> 00:21:05,770 those porno videos. 375 00:21:06,610 --> 00:21:09,830 Okay. And don't be afraid to look at the jury. 376 00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:12,000 You've got nothing to hide. 377 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:40,919 It's in his hands now. 378 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,920 He'll be fine. 379 00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:50,020 You asked us to trust you. 380 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,320 My boy got up because you convinced him to honor the truth. 381 00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:59,820 Mr. Robin, I got an innocent man about to go down for a crime he didn't commit. 382 00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:14,440 You just stole my son's innocence. 383 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:17,200 You're garbage. 384 00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:23,100 Ow. 385 00:22:29,940 --> 00:22:30,940 Last one. 386 00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:33,340 I can freeze it some more. 387 00:22:33,780 --> 00:22:34,780 It's okay. 388 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:38,200 Excuse me. 389 00:22:38,910 --> 00:22:42,730 I'm Lucy Hatcher. I have new clothes for him. He's due back in court. Can you 390 00:22:42,730 --> 00:22:43,730 wait outside? 391 00:22:43,770 --> 00:22:44,770 Sure. 392 00:22:45,550 --> 00:22:49,610 Wow. He just bashed your head in for calling his son the killer? 393 00:22:49,910 --> 00:22:50,910 Something like that. 394 00:22:50,970 --> 00:22:53,970 Make sure you tell him to rub vitamin E on. It'll help with the scar. 395 00:22:55,070 --> 00:22:56,070 Thank you. 396 00:22:56,130 --> 00:22:57,970 You know, you really could wait outside. 397 00:22:59,130 --> 00:23:00,130 Sure. 398 00:23:00,930 --> 00:23:02,510 Eleanor says it's a half hour till George. 399 00:23:07,310 --> 00:23:09,990 And when I opened my bag, there it was. 400 00:23:10,810 --> 00:23:11,810 Her head? 401 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:13,770 Yes. And what did you do next? 402 00:23:14,770 --> 00:23:16,230 First I went into a little shock. 403 00:23:18,010 --> 00:23:19,670 Then I came to you, my lawyer. 404 00:23:21,050 --> 00:23:22,870 And together we went to the police. 405 00:23:23,330 --> 00:23:25,950 Do you know of anybody who would want to incriminate you like this? 406 00:23:27,310 --> 00:23:28,310 No. 407 00:23:28,670 --> 00:23:31,510 George, you have to know how this looks. 408 00:23:32,490 --> 00:23:33,910 Can't you tell us anything? 409 00:23:35,310 --> 00:23:38,450 All I can tell you is I didn't kill this woman. 410 00:23:38,910 --> 00:23:40,010 We made love. 411 00:23:40,810 --> 00:23:43,770 I left, and she was alive. 412 00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:50,010 Why didn't you go back to your place? Why a motel? 413 00:23:50,290 --> 00:23:53,030 My place wasn't very impressive or neat. 414 00:23:53,230 --> 00:23:56,370 You leave a bar after midnight with a woman you just met. 415 00:23:56,810 --> 00:23:58,190 You're worried about neatness? 416 00:23:58,790 --> 00:24:03,890 Yes. So you said, let's go to a motel, and she said yes. 417 00:24:04,570 --> 00:24:08,290 A 23 -year -old beautiful woman. She said, sure. 418 00:24:08,850 --> 00:24:09,910 That's what happened. 419 00:24:10,490 --> 00:24:14,050 And after you made love, why'd you leave? Why not spend the night? 420 00:24:15,150 --> 00:24:17,270 I had a very early morning at work. 421 00:24:17,690 --> 00:24:19,230 Anybody see you leave the motel? 422 00:24:19,870 --> 00:24:23,790 Not that I know of. Anybody you know of who could testify that it's against your 423 00:24:23,790 --> 00:24:24,930 character to kill a person? 424 00:24:25,290 --> 00:24:29,750 Objection. Sustained. Mr. Volgeman, basically, all you have to suggest your 425 00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:31,210 innocence is your word. 426 00:24:31,690 --> 00:24:35,430 Do you have any evidence or witnesses to corroborate your word is worth 427 00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:37,250 anything? Objection, sidebar. 428 00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:38,590 Step up. 429 00:24:42,750 --> 00:24:46,110 He's trying to force us into character testimony so he can backdoor the videos 430 00:24:46,110 --> 00:24:49,530 on impeachment. Any witness who takes the stand puts his truthfulness in 431 00:24:49,570 --> 00:24:50,570 I'm entitled to cross. 432 00:24:50,670 --> 00:24:55,010 Attack him on truthfulness if you want, but don't be asking what witnesses or 433 00:24:55,010 --> 00:24:56,010 evidence he has. 434 00:24:57,450 --> 00:24:58,450 Step back. 435 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,060 Mr. Vogelman, are you married? 436 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:08,280 No. Girlfriend? 437 00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:11,140 No. Have you ever had a girlfriend? 438 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,120 No. Ever been in any relationship? 439 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,520 I've dated. 440 00:25:16,540 --> 00:25:17,540 You've dated? 441 00:25:17,780 --> 00:25:18,880 How old are you, sir? 442 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,720 43. 443 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,260 43 years old and you've never had a relationship? 444 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,539 Asked and answered. 445 00:25:25,540 --> 00:25:27,640 Sustained. Do you meet women through the personals? 446 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,040 Sometimes I do. 447 00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:31,480 Do you sometimes go to bars, meet women there? 448 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,000 Yes. Ever meet a woman on the Internet? 449 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,800 Ever meet a woman on the Internet, Mr. Vogelman? 450 00:25:41,780 --> 00:25:45,100 Yes. Are you the man Susan Robin met on the Internet? 451 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,740 No. Did she go to that bar to meet you, the man on the Internet? 452 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,920 No. I met her at the bar. 453 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,820 I never communicated with her on the Internet. 454 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,040 Just one last hypothetical, Mr. Vogelman, and then I'll be done. 455 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:04,040 Say this woman meets a man on the Internet. He maybe oversells himself 456 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,020 little. She agrees to meet him. 457 00:26:06,780 --> 00:26:07,940 She's disappointed. 458 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,040 Rejects him. 459 00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:14,860 And this man, who's been rejected so many times, has finally had enough. 460 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,220 Objection. This is an argument, not a question. Enough is enough. Right, 461 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,560 Objection. Sustained. 462 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,970 Do you... Have any more questions, Mr. Tisbury? 463 00:26:30,190 --> 00:26:31,190 No, Your Honor. 464 00:26:31,770 --> 00:26:32,770 I don't believe I do. 465 00:26:36,430 --> 00:26:37,430 Counsel? 466 00:26:39,330 --> 00:26:40,330 Ms. Frock? 467 00:26:42,510 --> 00:26:43,510 Nothing, Your Honor. 468 00:26:43,950 --> 00:26:45,150 The witness may step down. 469 00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:52,110 I hate to rest on that. Should we redirect? 470 00:26:52,850 --> 00:26:54,490 I don't think so. It could get worse. 471 00:26:54,910 --> 00:26:55,910 Maybe we... 472 00:26:58,969 --> 00:27:00,170 What? I have an idea. 473 00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:04,330 The defense recalls Helen Gamble. 474 00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:05,690 She's right back there. 475 00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:08,610 Ms. Gamble, step up, please. 476 00:27:17,930 --> 00:27:18,930 What are you doing? 477 00:27:19,270 --> 00:27:20,730 Ms. Gamble, please take the stand. 478 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,120 You testified the reason we called you that day is because of your relationship 479 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:30,120 with our office. 480 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,980 I assumed that was the reason you called me. Well, does our office enjoy a 481 00:27:33,980 --> 00:27:34,980 certain trust with you? 482 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:36,420 I would think so. 483 00:27:36,660 --> 00:27:40,680 And a candor? Yes. And in the spirit of that candor, did you and I have a 484 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,400 conversation about this case last week? 485 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,920 Objection. Overruled. 486 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,640 Did we talk about this case? 487 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,060 Miss Gamble, did you and I discuss this case? 488 00:27:57,410 --> 00:27:59,350 briefly and generally. 489 00:28:00,270 --> 00:28:05,330 And did you tell me that the police and the DA's office both just wanted a check 490 00:28:05,330 --> 00:28:07,510 solved in the little box next to... Objection! 491 00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:09,290 Overruled. Let me speed things up. 492 00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:14,490 Did you basically tell me that given the publicity, a conviction is desperately 493 00:28:14,490 --> 00:28:18,090 needed here? That if anybody else were charged with this crime, your office 494 00:28:18,090 --> 00:28:19,290 would never get that conviction? 495 00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:23,190 Since George Vogelman having the head in his medical bag would guarantee 496 00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:25,550 reasonable doubt to whoever else was charged? 497 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,520 And because of that, the police and the DA's office, on at least an unconscious 498 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,180 level, might want to believe that George Vogelman is the killer and therefore 499 00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:36,100 not bother to look for anybody else? 500 00:28:36,660 --> 00:28:38,700 Did you share all that with me? 501 00:28:38,940 --> 00:28:41,520 First, I have no direct information on this case. 502 00:28:41,980 --> 00:28:45,920 Second... Please just respond. I am responding. It was a long question, 503 00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:46,979 Your Honor? 504 00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:47,980 She can answer. 505 00:28:50,670 --> 00:28:56,410 I never suggested or even hinted that somebody else besides George Bogleman 506 00:28:56,410 --> 00:28:57,450 committed this crime. 507 00:28:57,650 --> 00:29:02,110 I didn't ask what you thought. And I never suggested that the DA's office 508 00:29:02,110 --> 00:29:03,870 convinced of your client's guilt. 509 00:29:04,090 --> 00:29:07,690 Did you say they might not want to look further? That it's easier to believe 510 00:29:07,690 --> 00:29:10,130 you've got the right guy when there's pressure to get a conviction? 511 00:29:10,890 --> 00:29:15,490 I said sometimes it's been known to happen. I didn't say it happened here. 512 00:29:15,490 --> 00:29:19,590 but you said it's been known to happen in a conversation about this case. 513 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,240 Didn't you? 514 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:29,320 Again, I have no reason to believe that this particular investigation has been 515 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,380 anything but proper and thorough. 516 00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:34,540 Thank you. 517 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,900 That was a good answer for the team. 518 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,620 Are you suggesting the investigation's tainted? 519 00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:45,680 There was collusion between the police and the DA's office. 520 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:55,700 What the hell was that, Eleanor? 521 00:29:55,820 --> 00:29:59,020 Ellen, I'm sorry. You just cut my legs out. Sorry? 522 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,100 I tell you something in confidence and you ambush me in open court? I had to 523 00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,240 make a choice. I had a duty to my clock. No good. 524 00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:09,720 You screwed me in this office for the last time. I was backed into a... That's 525 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,720 crap. 526 00:30:17,660 --> 00:30:18,660 She's right. 527 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,420 What was I going to do? Tell George, hey, I could have saved you, but... 528 00:30:22,420 --> 00:30:24,320 isn't the only client in this firm. No. 529 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,500 Pearson is. She's right, Eleanor. We need our credibility with every case, 530 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:31,600 just this one. It's not something I planned to do. But you did it. 531 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:38,640 We have to rely on relationships with DAs a lot. 532 00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:42,480 Sometimes those off -the -cuff conversations make the difference. You 533 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,360 DA down there is going to want to talk to us again? So I should let George go 534 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,040 down so we can preserve our invites to the Christmas parties? 535 00:30:48,460 --> 00:30:49,460 Yes. 536 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,200 Our dialogue with that office is more important than any one case. I've got to 537 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,660 deal with them on sentencing next week. I'm sure they'll be in great moods to... 538 00:30:56,660 --> 00:30:59,540 Oh, get over your professor, Lindsay. What did you do, sleep with the guy? 539 00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:11,000 Hey, Eleanor. I love it when girls fight. It's better than hockey. Quiet, 540 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,180 Back up, Eleanor. Back up. 541 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,640 You too. 542 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,780 I don't care what the stakes are. 543 00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:23,240 If the DA has an off -the -record conversation with any of us, it stays 544 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,180 record. Otherwise, it's like Lindsay says, we lose our credibility in every 545 00:31:28,180 --> 00:31:31,720 case. Well, tell that to the drowning man that you're more concerned about the 546 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,500 boat. I am not talking to a drowning man, Eleanor. 547 00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:36,520 I am talking to you. 548 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,600 Let's everybody settle down a little. 549 00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:42,540 There's a lot of stakes for a lot of people. 550 00:31:42,940 --> 00:31:45,340 Tearing each other new armpits isn't going to help anybody. 551 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,300 Of course they had to arrest George Vogelman. The victim's head was in his 552 00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:08,300 possession. 553 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,380 I don't blame the police for thinking he did it. 554 00:32:10,780 --> 00:32:11,780 How could they not? 555 00:32:12,860 --> 00:32:13,860 How could you not? 556 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,900 But there's a reason nobody saw him commit the crime. 557 00:32:17,380 --> 00:32:20,240 There's a reason there was no weapon connected to him. 558 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,340 He didn't do it. 559 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,160 Who did? 560 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,820 I don't know. You heard my co -counsel grill Susan Robbins' brother as a 561 00:32:28,820 --> 00:32:29,820 possible suspect. 562 00:32:31,060 --> 00:32:32,340 Well, let me admit a truth. 563 00:32:34,250 --> 00:32:37,690 We don't have any direct evidence to conclude the brother did it. If so, we 564 00:32:37,690 --> 00:32:38,770 certainly would have offered it. 565 00:32:39,570 --> 00:32:40,870 But he did have a motive. 566 00:32:41,370 --> 00:32:46,490 He was estranged from her. His debt, the will, his whereabouts at the time can't 567 00:32:46,490 --> 00:32:49,930 really be accounted for. He could have done it. 568 00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:55,790 The reason we can't know is because the police never really bothered to check 569 00:32:55,790 --> 00:33:01,570 that out. Steve Robbins said himself that they never even questioned him. 570 00:33:02,210 --> 00:33:08,550 Imagine. He has motive, opportunity, no alibi, and they didn't even investigate 571 00:33:08,550 --> 00:33:10,190 him as a possibility. 572 00:33:11,310 --> 00:33:15,890 Why? Because the head was found in George Vogelman's medical bag. 573 00:33:16,690 --> 00:33:17,790 And Jay Hickman? 574 00:33:18,290 --> 00:33:19,290 Susan's boyfriend? 575 00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:23,250 I have no reason to believe that he killed her, but his whereabouts can't be 576 00:33:23,250 --> 00:33:24,250 accounted for either. 577 00:33:24,890 --> 00:33:28,430 Motive? Well, she was with another man in a motel. 578 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,480 There are a lot of questions left unanswered here because the police never 579 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,280 really looked. 580 00:33:37,780 --> 00:33:41,880 You heard District Attorney Helen Gamble admit it's possible they didn't want to 581 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,240 find anybody else because they needed to get a conviction on this. And the head, 582 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,640 being in George Vogelman's bag, he was the only one they could possibly 583 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,580 Easier to stay with him and not complicate it. 584 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,980 Any evidence offered as to George Vogelman's motive? 585 00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:05,400 No. And why, if he is supposedly trying to get away with a crime, does he put 586 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,380 the victim's head in a bag and go to the police with it? Does that make sense? 587 00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:16,900 And let's not forget about the poet, a known serial killer out there in the 588 00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:20,860 Boston area that has an M .O. for decapitating victims. 589 00:34:21,460 --> 00:34:22,980 Has anybody accounted for him? 590 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,219 There are a lot of questions that need answering. 591 00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:34,000 Questions that were never asked or explored because this just seemed so 592 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,540 The head was in his bag. 593 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,880 He must have done it. Well, he didn't. 594 00:34:40,139 --> 00:34:45,320 I have no doubt the prosecution needs that conviction. They surely do. But 595 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,900 are prosecuting the wrong man. 596 00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:55,639 No evidence, not even microscopic, of anybody else being in that room. 597 00:34:56,270 --> 00:34:57,810 Except George Vogelman. 598 00:34:58,230 --> 00:35:02,190 Defense counsel gave us quite a show, didn't they? The brother did it. 599 00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:04,470 No, maybe it was the boyfriend. 600 00:35:05,270 --> 00:35:06,930 How about that serial killer? 601 00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:10,090 Forensics combed that room. 602 00:35:10,310 --> 00:35:16,370 There were saliva samples, fibers from clothing, semen, hair strands, 603 00:35:16,710 --> 00:35:22,870 fingerprints. They didn't go to a serial killer or Susan Robbins' brother or her 604 00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:25,210 boyfriend. They all belonged. 605 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,060 To George Vogelman. 606 00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:29,980 The man who says he went home alone. 607 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,240 The man who sits there with no alibi. 608 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:39,960 Yes, it was easy to conclude he did it. And on top of all the insurmountable 609 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,740 evidence at the scene, he had the victim's head. 610 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:50,280 My God, he decapitated a woman. And his lawyers have offered you nothing but 611 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,760 spin as a defense. 612 00:35:52,570 --> 00:35:56,010 Did they put in one piece of physical or testimonial evidence? 613 00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:58,070 Anything at all exculpatory? 614 00:35:59,210 --> 00:36:01,410 No. Just spin. 615 00:36:02,750 --> 00:36:03,750 He did it. 616 00:36:03,930 --> 00:36:08,950 No, he did it. Look there. Over here. Don't forget that police conspiracy. 617 00:36:09,290 --> 00:36:10,430 Collusion with the DA. 618 00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:14,890 And they expect you to let him go? 619 00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:19,650 They're not insulting your intelligence, ladies and gentlemen. 620 00:36:20,490 --> 00:36:23,210 They're assuming you just don't have any. 621 00:36:45,450 --> 00:36:49,550 Got any predictions? 622 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,340 Innocent, guilty, or hung. 623 00:36:55,460 --> 00:36:57,140 How long before... There's no telling. 624 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000 Eugene? 625 00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:04,640 Could you excuse us a second? 626 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,020 All the evidence is closed, right? 627 00:37:27,220 --> 00:37:28,220 Yeah. 628 00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:31,080 Then I'm going to tell you something. 629 00:37:32,740 --> 00:37:36,480 We both know I've always had some motive to tell you I'm innocent. 630 00:37:38,420 --> 00:37:40,260 It allowed you to let me testify. 631 00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:45,660 It allowed you to, I don't know, try harder. 632 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,980 But now... 633 00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:51,860 The evidence being closed, it doesn't matter what I tell you. 634 00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:56,240 I didn't do it. 635 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,320 When you looked at me a few months ago, you said you believed in me. 636 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,820 But you couldn't fully trust yourself to believe in what you believe. 637 00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:12,600 You can trust yourself, Eleanor. 638 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,920 You've been right all along. 639 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,800 I didn't do it. 640 00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:44,080 You know, in the future, if you're going to hurl a book at someone, it should be 641 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,080 at somebody your own size. 642 00:38:45,340 --> 00:38:46,640 She was about to flatten you. 643 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,460 I'll try to remember that. 644 00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:51,320 And also, I'm a pretty good judge of character. 645 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,240 Eleanor, I think normally she's peaceful. 646 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,300 But when riled, she looks dangerous. 647 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,540 Well, maybe you should tell her that. 648 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,620 You think I'm crazy? 649 00:39:05,540 --> 00:39:11,340 I knew you were there. 650 00:39:24,270 --> 00:39:25,670 I'm sorry what I said about Pearson. 651 00:39:27,550 --> 00:39:28,550 I know. 652 00:39:28,750 --> 00:39:30,730 I'm sorry about the book. 653 00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:37,750 And I'm sorry about my intent to flatten. 654 00:39:40,910 --> 00:39:44,550 I know saying sorry isn't going to cut it for Helen, but... I'll work on her. 655 00:39:46,530 --> 00:39:47,530 You got it. 656 00:39:49,530 --> 00:39:50,530 Verdict. 657 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,740 Will the defendant please rise? 658 00:40:24,540 --> 00:40:27,840 Mr. Foreman, the jury has reached a unanimous verdict. We have. 659 00:40:29,620 --> 00:40:30,620 What say you? 660 00:40:34,580 --> 00:40:38,420 Commonwealth versus George Vogelman on the count of murder in the first degree. 661 00:40:39,340 --> 00:40:43,400 We find the defendant, George Vogelman, not guilty. 662 00:40:51,980 --> 00:40:52,980 I've never heard that. 663 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,980 The defendant is free to go. 664 00:41:14,420 --> 00:41:19,480 What do you think changed the jury for you? What are your plans? 665 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,320 Is it really over? 666 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,000 Yeah. 667 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:40,960 Thank you. 668 00:41:45,260 --> 00:41:46,260 Thank you. 669 00:41:51,180 --> 00:41:53,000 I don't know really what to say. 56161

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