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BEAR GRYLLS: 20 years ago, social
worker Robert Glover
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and his wife, Liz,
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moved to Shanghai with their six
young children.
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Robert looked to spearhead the
first-ever
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joint social welfare venture
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between the British and Chinese
governments.
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I was with the Chinese government
people
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and I didn't understand a word of
what they were saying.
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And then one chap stood up and he
said,
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"I want to tell you the meaning of
your Chinese name."
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And he said, "As many stars as there
are in the sky,
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you'll be father to children in
China."
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This is the story of eight million
children,
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a 3,000-year-old civilisation...
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..and the birth of an idea.
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Shanghai, China's wealthiest city.
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Its skyscrapers are temples
to the spirit of enterprise.
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But its veneration for the family is
rooted in ancient tradition.
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20 years ago,
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Ai Liang lived in an orphanage.
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At the age of five, Ai Liang
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became one of the first foster
children in China's history.
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And today her gratitude knows no
bounds.
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Sheng Weiqun and her husband
Lao Wushen
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decided to become China's first-ever
foster parents,
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after learning the details of Ai
Liang's early childhood.
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Ai Liang may be a happy and
successful young mum today,
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but when she was five
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any of kind of future
seemed an impossibility.
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I don't think there was even a word
for fostering.
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There wasn't a word for adoption.
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And...
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there had been some very adverse
publicity
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in the UK and other countries
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about the poor state of orphanages
in China.
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Countless children were growing up
without hope.
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But something utterly extraordinary
was about to happen.
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And it involved a former
professional footballer from Norwich
- Robert Glover.
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Robert had moved from sport to social
work
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and his work with young offenders
had won him a reputation
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for ripping up the rule book.
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When Robert learnt about the
situation in China
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he felt impelled to act.
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Robert travelled to Shanghai at his
own expense
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and secured an invitation to a formal
dinner
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for local officials and international
charities.
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I sat next to this senior member of
the Communist Party, retired.
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And um, we got chatting and we got
on quite well.
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Some other foreigners were wagging
their fingers
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and telling them off, telling them
they're doing it all wrong.
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I was just enjoying the food. It was
just lovely food.
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And really I suppose I was just
being sociable.
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You know, I was in their country, I
was their guest.
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I just said, "I come with a heart to
serve
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to see if there's any way we could
help."
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The Chinese do everything through
guanxi, which means relationship.
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It's very much about food, it's very
much getting to know and trust.
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And face is very important in China.
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You don't make anyone lose face, you
know.
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You keep their honour and face. It's
very important.
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Astonishingly, Robert's friendly
approach
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and genuine love of Chinese food,
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achieved what the entire Western
establishment
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had failed to do for years.
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There was some shuffling and the top
guy said to one of the others,
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"Get rid of the other guy and get
Robert back for dinner."
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The started asking me about why
should children be with families.
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How do we get there and how do we do
this?
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How does that work? How does this
work?
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So, just answering their questions
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and the guy looks at me in the eye
and says,
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"Will you come back and help us?"
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Like, "Wow."
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This was Yan Mingfu,
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a remarkable man, who was Chairman
Mao's official translator
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during his tense summits with Soviet
premier Nikolai Khrushchev.
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When Khrushchev mortally offended Mao
by banging his shoe on their table,
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it was Yan Mingfu's diplomacy
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that persuaded Mao not to retaliate
with a declaration of war.
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Speaking in 2000,
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Yan Mingfu recalled his first meeting
with Robert.
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As Deputy Minister for Civil Affairs,
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Yan Mingfu held great sway with the
government.
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Robert made an impression
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on the politicians
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because...he's not a politician.
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Everyone could see that Robert was
not in this for what he could get
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but what the children would get.
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Robert feared he'd caused a
diplomatic incident.
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I'm sitting in my office thinking,
"Was I really in China last week?"
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The phone rings, picks it up
and it's the Foreign Office saying,
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"We want to talk to you."
You're thinking, "Oh, no."
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You always think, don't you, "What
have we done wrong?
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What went wrong in China?"
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They said, "Well, look, if you're
prepared to go and be their
consultant,
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they want you as their consultant
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to advise the Shanghai government
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on how to develop family placement
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as an alternative to institutional
care."
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Robert's breakthrough would change
history.
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But it would come at massive personal
cost.
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We had a beautiful old farmhouse in
Guernsey
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just up the road from lovely beaches.
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A field with chickens.
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Robert and his family were the very
heart of the close-knit community
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on the small island in the English
Channel.
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The Glovers were certainly different
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and exciting to be around.
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You never knew what was going to
happen next.
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It was quite crazy because it was
the whole herd of them.
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Because they're all blonde, as well,
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they're quite a...spectacle, if you
like.
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They were the life and soul of the
party.
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It was always just... (LAUGHS)
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..just a laugh all the time.
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They had a lot of love to show for
young people
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and for kids.
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I mean, with somebody of Bob's
stature,
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he could come over as quite
intimidating.
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But he wasn't. All the kids just
warmed to him.
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They just thought he was like a big
bear.
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We both were saying, "We want to be
effective somewhere."
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We didn't want to just sit.
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So, by the time China came along,
we were pretty ready.
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Although there was still lots of
preparation to be done.
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It was scary. I'd never been to
China.
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I didn't have a clue what it meant
to live there
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and actually to take our six
children.
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But the thing that made it feel more
secure
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was that we would be helping other
children
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that were in much worse conditions
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and much worse situations than my
children.
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Dad said, "This is what we need to
do. We need to move to China"
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and I think I burst into tears.
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When we left Guernsey
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we felt strongly that we probably
wouldn't return.
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We didn't want to be looking back.
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We didn't want to be thinking about
the past.
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So there was something liberating
and something really rich
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about giving everything away.
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And as we did that and things went,
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you start to focus on going forward
rather than back.
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And, you know, all we had left was
our mattresses.
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So the final bit was to go up
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and have this little time together
and set fire to our mattresses
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and say goodbye to Guernsey.
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It was, you know, goodbye.
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And from that point, again there was
this freedom, this liberty,
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that just broke through that we were
going to China.
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It was a change point, it was a new
direction.
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Lois often talks about she cried a
lot.
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In some sense, for a little
ten-year-old girl,
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it was almost like going to give her
life for this cause.
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Living in Guernsey, you're a very
small community,
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compared to going, as the Glovers
did, to Shanghai,
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to a huge, bustling city with
millions of people.
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A huge challenge for a young family.
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Yeah, I was upset they went.
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The daily contact and...and...
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the strong friendship that we had
and have.
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I knew that they were doing the
right thing
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but I don't think you realised how
special that time was.
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Before they could leave, Robert
needed the final approval
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from Lord Laming, the Chief Inspector
of Social Services.
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I thought to myself, "He doesn't
know China very well,
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he doesn't speak the language
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and he's going to take six children
with him
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to a country where there's
a one-child-per-family policy.
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And I thought, "This doesn't seem to
me to be practical."
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But then I thought about it
overnight and I thought,
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"If this project changes the lives
and the life opportunities
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of, say, only 20 children,
it has been worthwhile."
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So I told the government I supported
it entirely.
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The family of eight would be
travelling almost 10,000km
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from a rural island with a population
of 60,000
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to the most populated city in China.
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We didn't understand the language
and we didn't understand what was
going on.
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I just remember arriving into China
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and feeling so small and it being so
big.
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People used to come up and touch our
hair...Mm...and we'd actually cry.
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I remember us as a family of eight.
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Six children, all blonde, and
distinctly sticking out.
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(SPEAKS ENGLISH)
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Daphne, a young graduate, was made
Robert's personal assistant.
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(SPEAKS ENGLISH)
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Rather than set up in a distant
office,
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Robert based his new charity, Care
for Children,
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inside Shanghai's biggest orphanage.
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This was quite a...formidable sort
of institution
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with lots of different people, lots
of different roles.
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Lots of children in cots that
weren't nurtured and weren't helped.
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That was really tough.
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They used to bring the children out
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and tie them together so they could
walk in a line and not wander off.
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They had hardly any possessions.
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So they had a tiny cupboard where
they kept their stuff
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and they had some books and a few
little tiny toys.
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Then you saw some of the older boys
and how tough they were.Yeah.
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And you knew that in their
toughness,
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they'd survived, you know.
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For every one of those boys that
survived, many hadn't.
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One orphanage boy who survived the
system then thrived through fostering
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is 29-year-old Su Yiya.
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Today he is one of the city's most
sought-after coders.
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Tencent is valued at over $500
billion.
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It owns WeChat,
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an app combining messaging, social
media and mobile payment.
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Su Yiya's prospects haven't always
been this bright.
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20 years ago, aged nine,
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he was abandoned between a building
site and a railway track.
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The police took him to an orphanage,
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where there was little hope of an
education.
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Care for Children found Su Yiya a
foster family
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and he visits them every day.
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One of the things we know about
children
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is when they come into care
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they've often gone through awful
rejection.
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They're feeling abandonment.
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And what we have to do is to try and
work with the family
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around, "You know what? These
children are hurt."
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So often they will display quite
abnormal behaviour.
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It's a self-destruct button.
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Robert and Liz haven't seen Su Yiya
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since their charity arranged for him
to leave the orphanage.
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We are so happy to get to know about
you after 20 years.
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Do you remember the earliest memory
you had going to your family?
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(SPEAKS ENGLISH)
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Mm.Aw!
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Mm!Aw.
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Yes.Yeah, yeah.Yeah.
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Feel the love from your mother and
father.Yeah.
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Now, do you remember anything before
you went to your family?
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Tell us about some happy memories in
your family.
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Quite remarkable really.
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Suddenly, out of this little boy,
comes this bright spark
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and seeing fulfilment in his life
where he's actually feeling,
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"Wow, I made it. I've done it."
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Care for Children has placed over a
million orphans with foster families.
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But 20 year ago, as he set up his
fledgling charity
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in the Shanghai orphanage,
Robert looked to have little chance
of success.
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This was my office where we...Yeah.
..went in through that door.I
remember coming in here.
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(CHATTERING)
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The orphanage did not welcome Robert
with open arms.
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I was told I couldn't eat with the
rest of the staff in the canteen,
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so I had to have my...er...
my lunch on my own.
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There were a lot of vested interests
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in Shanghai at the time,
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in the orphanage system.
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It was a business.
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And we were breaking down that
business.
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The orphanage director asked me to
give an overview of what foster care
was.
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And so I had a translator.
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And I noticed very quickly, within
three or four minutes, people were
fidgeting
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and going out to the toilet,
answering their phones.
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And then, you know, five minutes,
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I could see people reading the
newspaper.
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And I think after about ten minutes
of trying to do my presentation
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there were some that actually
started a card school at the back.
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So... (LAUGHS) ..you know,
it was very unnerving.
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I think the...
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expectations from China
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were very high.
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And I was fearful at that time
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that Robert wouldn't be able to
deliver on that.
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It seemed like every time that we
made a step forward
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more obstacles would come in the
way.
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Progress seemed impossible.
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But Robert's former career as a
footballer
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was to provide an unlikely
breakthrough.
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At sort of 15, I was asked to come
and train with Norwich City.
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Got sort of scouted again by
Portsmouth.
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Signed the same day as a young man
called Chris Kamara.
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And played against Celtic. That was
kind of the highlight -
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with Kenny Dalglish on the
opposition.
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Robert exported his skills from
English football league
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to the Shanghai orphanage.
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The teenage boys often were being
bypassed.
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They weren't gonna get the
opportunity to live in a family.
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So I used to often take a ball into
the playground
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and, you know, teach them a bit of
football.
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It started with about five of them
and it grew
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to the point where we got permission
that we could train them.
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And then I wrote to my...my old
team, Norwich City,
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and they sent out the strip with
yellow shirts,
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green shorts and green socks.
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And the training became a bit more
serious then.
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And we decided to enter them into
the Shanghai Schools Trophy.
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There were probably five boys that
were deaf and dumb and some...
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There was a boy who only had one
arm.
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So a lot of them had disabilities
but they overcame that.
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Very strong, very resilient.
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In the final, they beat the American
School 5-3.
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Um...and it was a major achievement,
really, for the orphanage.
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Robert's astonishing victory with a
team of disabled orphans
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in an able-bodied competition
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brought honour to the orphanage.
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And that changed everything.
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They knocked on the door and I went
to answer it
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and the whole of the staff group
were outside
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with madam, the director,
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with my bowl with my name on.
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Which, after six months, meant that
they'd accepted me
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and I could eat in the canteen with
them.
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Which I felt was a huge
accomplishment.
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Robert had finally won acceptance
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from the orphanage -
and the local press.
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Hundreds of families in Shanghai
signed up to the project within days.
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One couple - Li Gongwei and Wang
Wanbin -
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fostered a five-year-old girl called
Xu Peiwei.
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Today, Xu Peiwei is a successful
musician and artist.
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She met with Robert and Liz at
Shanghai's world-famous Bund.
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Oh, I missed you so much!Aw!
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(CHATTERS INDISTINCTLY)
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It's great to see you, 20 years on.
20.Yeah.
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You were five years old...When you
went to the new family.
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Like many orphanage children at the
time,
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Xu Peiwei had delayed development.
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At five, she had the skills of a
baby.
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I have the husband...
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Oh!..in Shanghai.
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Wonderful!Mm.That's so good.
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Shanghai's ancient street markets mix
the old worlds and the new.
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Events organiser Xu Guoqi and student
Chen Feifei,
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often spend their time exploring
them.
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They've been friends ever since they
met at one of Shanghai's
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first-ever schools for children with
learning difficulties.
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At school they both represented China
at swimming and roller skating
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and became Special Olympic champions.
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Xu Guoqi spent the first five years
of her life in an orphanage.
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She would have stayed there
had she not become
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one of the country's first foster
children.
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The arrangement was made by Care for
Children's
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senior training officer Lucy.
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Xu Guoqi and Chen Feifei
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are still in regular touch with their
teacher
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and Special Olympic
trainer Miss Dong.
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They like catching up at one of
Shanghai's traditional tea houses.
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(CHATTERS IN NATIVE LANGUAGE)
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The girls performed so well, they
were chosen to represent China.
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Robert and Liz Glover know nothing of
Xu Guoqi's sporting success.
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They last saw her 20 years ago
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when she had serious disabilities
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and could not speak or walk properly.
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Bit anxious cos I remember this
child
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and I remember when she came from
the orphanage
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and she needed a lot of help.
I really don't know what to expect.
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(CHATTERING AND LAUGHTER)
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(SPEAKS NATIVE LANGUAGE)Oh!
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Special Olympics.Ah!Ah.
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Oh!
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Wow!Yay!(CHUCKLES)
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Amazing. Thank you very much.
355
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(LAUGHTER)
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An amazing family. That little girl,
when she came out of the orphanage,
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she couldn't speak, she couldn't
walk
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and she couldn't eat solid food.
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And now she's a confident young
woman.
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She's an athlete. She's represented
her country.
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Really China should be proud of this
family.
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00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,320
They are awesome. They are the
heroes of the state.
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While Robert was helping out
youngsters in the orphanage,
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his own family were adjusting to life
in a Shanghai village.
365
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,040
Yes, it's so good to be back in a
village like this.
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Just so similar. Even the smells and
the people.
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It just makes me feel so happy to be
back here.
368
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:19,400
We all look at the cities, but most
of China is just like this.
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To love China and to be in China,
you have to love a place like this.
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You have to. Cos you get to know the
people and the people are amazing.
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(SPEAKS MANDARIN)
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Ah!
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Our six kids used to love spending
the weekends in the village,
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you know, just doing what the
Chinese kids did
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and learning all different things
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they'd never seen or heard of
before.
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00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,280
I remember going into the village,
and it feeling...
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Just you felt so free to go and be
in amongst them all.Yeah.
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Like, their houses were open. You
just walked through.
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You had kids walking from place to
place.
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But there was just this safety about
it, there was this freedom.
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Compared to the West, where we can
be quite shut off, it was the
opposite.
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You'd just walk through and there
was just space to be with people.
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We'd invite the villagers over,
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especially in the early
years in Shanghai.
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We grew up as a minority,
in many ways,
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and that was, for us, an opportunity
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to kind of explore culture in China.
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Thinking back to the Chinese New
Year celebrations,
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they were amazing.
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(LAUGHS)ANNA: I really remember the
Chinese fireworks going off.
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And they were so loud and there were
so many of them.
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And I remember a few of us children
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just running across their fields
pretending to be shooting each other
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and diving from place to place.
Yeah.
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00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,200
And I also remember these, like, red
strips
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of almost just gunpowder
all down the streets.
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They'd set them off and all they'd
do was bang.
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"Bang, bang, bang!"Just "Bang,
bang, bang!"
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(BANGING AND CRACKLING)
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Looking back, I think they're a bit
mad... (LAUGHS) ..in a way.
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And there moments where I thought
"Gosh, this is hard"
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and even in my teenage years
thinking,
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"Has this not been a good thing?"
Mm.
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But now, looking back, I really do
see it as a privilege
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and to this day I would say my
family are my best friends.
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We're both mothers of our own
families and so to think,
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wow, picking up and taking your
children to another nation,
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yeah, for the sake of a cause or a
desire on your heart
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to see children in families,
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you realise the sacrifice that went
in more.
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Family meant a great deal to Robert
- and to the Chinese.
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Family care is very important.
Family life is very important.
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Each member of the families are very
intricate and detailed
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and they were very pragmatic and
practical.
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I'll give you one instance. So in
England
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we tended to look at the one child.
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You know, we'd place one child at a
time.
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In China, you've got, you know,
maybe 1,000 children in the
orphanage,
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so they were sending out 10, 15
maybe 20 children at a time.
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And I was like,
"No, no, no, you can't do that!"
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And "Why?", you know. The question
would always come back, "Why?"
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And now I look back, you know,
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the fact they were placing ten
children into one village
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with ten different families that all
supported and encouraged each other,
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in hindsight you can see how,
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00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,680
pragmatically, that was quite
practical.
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The foster villages attracted global
attention.
429
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,520
I feel like I've been a lot
of places around the world.
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and I just don't know that I've...
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ever seen a more beautiful group of
people.
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I mean, you've got 70 families in
this village
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and they have taken in 160
special-needs children.
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And you just try to imagine, where
would they be if this wasn't here?
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And many of them probably wouldn't
have survived some of the orphanages
436
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,040
and you just see the life and the
joy in these kids now.
437
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,600
I don't even know how to process it
all.
438
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Robert was fast becoming a major link
between China and the UK.
439
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,280
Robert helped smooth the way for
Virgin Airways' Richard Branson
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to open the first London to Shanghai
flight in 1999.
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In return, Virgin ran an ad
for Care for Children.
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It featured a little
orphaned girl called Ba Yue.
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I think for Ba Yue, she'd been
through this rejection,
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this abandonment, this hurt,
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experienced all this, and then gone
into a family.
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A loving mother, a loving father.
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And I think when he died,
she couldn't cope
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with the grief, the loss,
and I think she ran.
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00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,360
You know, whatever we feel when we
lose a parent,
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she was feeling it ten times more
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because all the feelings of her
childhood was coming back as well -
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about the loss, the grief, the
rejection, the abandonment.
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That would have surfaced again.
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Thankfully, her mother was strong
enough
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and the foundation was there to help
her through that.
456
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,200
Ba Yue now has a successful career,
457
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:03,320
inspired by the company who brought
her and her foster parents together.
458
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:22,120
News of Care For Children's
success was spreading fast.
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We knew there were many more
children out there
460
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and we were getting invitations from
other cities.
461
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:31,560
And Beijing requested
that I move from Shanghai
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and become a national advisor
to the central government.
463
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,160
'You're thinking,
"What is going on?",
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00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,200
banging your head against the wall.
465
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:23,760
But people did want to try and make
things work.
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00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,840
It was quite funny really. They had
a one-child policy,
467
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,880
I was their senior consultant
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00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,840
for disadvantaged children
and I had six children.
469
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,320
They laughed and we laughed. We all
thought it was quite funny.'
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I think the Chinese government must
have recognised in him
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exactly the qualities that I saw,
472
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,880
which was his sincerity, his
genuineness,
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his care for children, his
enthusiasm for the job.
474
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,000
We rolled out initially to 15
provinces
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and then 30 provinces of China.
476
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,480
And I think once that then started
to roll out
477
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,240
and people saw the numbers and,
you know,
478
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:10,880
how easy the success was in seeing
children's lives transformed,
479
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,280
it turned out to be very productive
in the long run.
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00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Fostering was replacing institutional
care in Beijing and Shanghai,
481
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,720
China's political and economic
powerhouses.
482
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:30,080
But Robert's biggest
challenge was to come in Chengdu.
483
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:35,040
Famed for its giant pandas,
484
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,480
Chengdu was founded
in the 4th century BC
485
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,920
and is the capital of China's
Sichuan province.
486
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:49,440
Tragically, it's also known for one
of the worst natural catastrophes
487
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,480
of the 21st century.
488
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,200
It was 2008 and it was China's year
489
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,480
because it was going to be the
Beijing Olympics.
490
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,200
And this earthquake struck
491
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:04,560
and it was just on an enormous
scale.
492
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,280
We were down on the ground, day two,
493
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,720
and gathering information,
494
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,960
and you've never seen anything like
it.
495
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,160
As far as your eye could see
496
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,640
there were just houses that were in
rubble.
497
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,480
Doorframes left.
It was really surreal.
498
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,120
And then meeting, you know,
499
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,120
parents, mothers, walking around,
500
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,400
distraught, looking for their
children,
501
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,400
with pictures, asking have we seen
these children.
502
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,200
Seeing little shoes that were left,
503
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,080
um, you know,
504
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,400
just lying by the side of the road.
505
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,280
People lost whole families. Like
their mums, their dads,
506
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,880
their...their uncles and their
aunties, their children.
507
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,360
So, you know, part of our job really
508
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:56,440
was to get alongside them and help
them to pick up
509
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,960
and just to try to encourage them
510
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,280
in times of, you know,
511
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,600
great grief and remorse and shock.
512
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,640
Everybody was in shock.
513
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,160
Um...and then really with them
514
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,320
starting to connect with families.
515
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,880
But the good thing is all the kids
were safe,
516
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,680
none of them were injured.
517
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,960
The charity placed the children with
foster families.
518
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,680
One Chengdu orphan was Long Xianqiao.
519
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,920
But today, he's an expert baker.
520
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:54,840
Long Xianqiao
teaches a weekly baking class
521
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,320
at Chengdu's rebuilt orphanage.
522
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,160
I'm an adopted child myself,
523
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,440
so I know from my own life the
benefits that that brings.
524
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,920
But you multiply that then by
thousands and thousands
525
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,640
and you can see how a whole society,
526
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,680
a whole generation, a whole nation
527
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:44,880
can be changed by that.
528
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,000
In 20 years, fostering has gone
529
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,560
from being an unknown concept
to a national practice.
530
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,200
And it all began in Shanghai.
531
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,800
Today, Ai Liang's foster parents
532
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,240
have invited Robert and Liz Glover
to their apartment
533
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,600
to celebrate the 20th anniversary
534
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,680
of one of China's very first family
placements.
535
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:18,640
(CHATTING AND LAUGHTER)
536
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,080
To hear that from the parents
537
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,120
has made me feel like 20 years ago
538
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,920
it was worth us leaving the UK and
coming with our six children
539
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,960
and being here and...
540
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,640
Yeah, it just made it feel all
worthwhile.
541
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,600
I'm struggling a bit. (CHUCKLES)
542
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,680
'Growing up, I didn't have a
father.'
543
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:29,200
There was clearly something missing
in my childhood, in my adolescence.
544
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:33,120
And I can appreciate that these
children
545
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,560
almost have nothing to direct them
or guide them.
546
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,680
Who sets the family boundaries of
security and love
547
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,720
and nurture and stimulation?
548
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,880
We know what institutions create -
549
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,200
dependant, dysfunctional people.
550
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,680
And I think that returning that
generation
551
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:54,720
back into family life
552
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,840
will change the nation of China.
553
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,840
'There's been so many highlights
along the way.'
554
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,440
Seeing the first children from the
orphanage go into the families
555
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,880
and then seeing the transformation
of that
556
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,120
and my children witnessing that.
557
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,680
We got to go along to the
orphanages. We got to meet the
children.
558
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:18,480
And to know that these children are
now in
559
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,960
families that love them is...
is amazing.
560
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:29,360
Care For Children has placed over a
million orphans in foster families.
561
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,920
China, with such a huge population,
562
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,400
had the largest number of orphans,
563
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,880
practically all of whom have been...
564
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,880
..taken in families.
565
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,440
If it can be done in China, it can
be done anywhere in the world.
566
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,400
On Tuesday 17th December 2019,
567
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,520
the UN's 193 member states
568
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,440
passed a resolution pledging to phase
out orphanages
569
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,280
and to promote family-based
alternatives.
570
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,360
Fostering orphans was a completely
new concept in China
571
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,520
and challenged three millennia of
social convention.
572
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,120
And it all began 20 years ago
in Shanghai.
573
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,760
I was sat round a table with maybe
ten people, Chinese people,
574
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,720
and they suddenly said, "Whoa, stop.
We need to give you a Chinese name.
575
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,640
Cos if you're gonna be our
consultant, you've then got to have
a chop
576
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,280
and it's gotta go on the reports so
we know it's from you."
577
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,280
They went into this conversation. I
had no idea what they're talking
about.
578
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,200
Talking for some time about what my
name should be, you know.
579
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:02,120
Eventually one guy stood up
and he said, um,
580
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,160
"We want to tell you the meaning of
your Chinese name" -
581
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,120
cos that's really important in
China.
582
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,440
And he said, "The meaning of your
Chinese name
583
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,880
is 'as many stars as there are in
the sky, you'll be father to
children in China'."
584
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,840
That really hit me because um...
585
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,360
..many years previously,
when I was in Guernsey,
586
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,840
a man came over to our church and he
prayed with me and he just said,
587
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,840
"I just sense that God is saying
you're going to be father
588
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,760
to as many children as there are
stars in the sky."
589
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,920
And I thought, "How can you get that
many children?
590
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,280
Have you seen how many stars are up
there?"
591
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,960
But, of course, Shanghai.
592
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,800
There was my name and it was just
like
593
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,080
now I know where I'm meant to be.
594
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,320
# MATT REDMAN: The Father's Song
595
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:26,720
# I have heard so many songs
596
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,920
# Listened to a thousand tongues
597
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,360
# But there is one
598
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,040
# That's sounds above them all
599
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,520
# The Father's song
600
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,560
# The Father's love
601
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,400
# You sung it over me
602
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,600
# And for eternity
603
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,960
# It's written on my heart
604
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,680
# Heaven's perfect melody
605
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,440
# The Creator's symphony
606
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,480
# You are singing over me
607
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:19,560
# The Father's song
608
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,560
# Heaven's perfect mystery
609
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,680
# The king of love has sent for me
610
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,480
# And now you're singing over me
611
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,640
# The Father's song
612
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,400
# The Father's song
613
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,440
# The Father's love
614
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,480
# You sung it over me
615
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,680
# And for eternity
616
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,240
# It's written on my heart
617
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,200
# Father #
618
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,360
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