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Okay, well, thank you very much for
coming. We're doing a second series of
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Misadventures of Romesh Ranganathan, and
we're looking for some constructive
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feedback.
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So, I guess the first question I'd ask
is, what did you guys think of the show?
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I thought you were really good in it.
Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
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Because I'll tell you who didn't.
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This guy.
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This is the cult of stupidity. Romesh
and his posse -mouth sarcastic voiceover
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appeal to the sort of people who think
imagination, spirituality and history
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things to be sneered at.
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At JohnMcRae189.
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Arrogant, patronising, ill -informed. So
different from my own experience of
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this fascinating country.
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Can't even spell my name right. Unfunny
prick.
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Terribly unfunny.
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This dog reminds me of Romesh
Ranganathan.
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It's not just about this feedback.
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It's about getting your take. So does
anybody else have any other thoughts?
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Can I just say, I thought you were
really great in Travelman.
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Do you mean Travelman with Richard
Ayoade?
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We're done.
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Against my better judgment... This time
I'm going to be visiting Mongolia,
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Bosnia, Colombia and Zimbabwe.
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Oh my God, he is packing.
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I want to know if our preconceptions of
these countries are justified.
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Bosnia is the land of miracles.
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Is there more to Zimbabwe than Robert
Mugabe?
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Is there more to Bosnia than the war?
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Is Colombia all about drug cartels?
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Now this is beautiful.
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Oh my Lord, this is amazing.
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I don't really think this is necessary,
do you?
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You're just going to feel a little
prick, OK?
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So what do you know about Zimbabwe, Rob?
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When you think about Zimbabwe, you think
about Robert Mugabe and you think about
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the reclaiming the farmland from the
white farmers
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in Zimbabwe and sort of the violence and
the turmoil in the country, which has
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gone on for such a long time, you sort
of hope that because this reign has come
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to an end that...
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Things have started to sort of settle
down a bit in the last year or so. But
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then you look in the news more recently
and fuel shortages have meant there have
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been protests and violence.
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It feels like Mugabe's round coming to
an end might have been a bit of a false
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dawn. So it's difficult to know what to
expect, really.
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Was I a good boy?
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You did very well.
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I travelled from London to Zimbabwe, a
landlocked country of 18 million people,
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formerly known as Rhodesia.
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At the time of my visit, a year after
the fall of the dictator Robert Mugabe,
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the country had declared itself safe,
stable and open for business.
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Although I'd also read that many people
didn't necessarily expect that stability
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to last.
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My flight landed at Victoria Falls
International Airport, in the northwest
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the country, where I was met by my guide
and host for the week.
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Hello, Chupo.
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Hi.
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How are you? I'm well, thank you.
Pleasure to meet you. Pleasure to meet
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Thank you very much for doing this sign.
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Did I get your name correct?
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Yes. It's really nice.
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Beautiful handwriting as well. Thank
you. How are you? I'm well, thank you.
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Welcome. Thank you. Chupo Chikara is a
teacher born and raised in the capital
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city of Harare who'd volunteered to show
me the site.
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These guys are on a lunch break or
something?
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Yeah, usually they don't.
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Okay, can't be arsed now, though. No, I
think right now they're just chilling.
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Did you
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have any
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preconceived ideas about them?
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My preconceptions about Zimbabwe are
one, Victoria Falls, and two, unrest.
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Do you want me to be able to see that?
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That's the literally correct way of
that.
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Those are the two things I know. Falls
and unrest.
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Nothing stable.
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Everything falling or shaky.
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Chipo explained that for anyone under
the age of 40, Robert Mugabe was the
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leader they'd ever known. But he'd also
left the country in a state of near
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total economic collapse.
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with foreign tourists almost non
-existent.
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You're here at a time where we're still
sort of processing the past 12
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months. Yeah.
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We're trying to navigate the economy and
where we're headed as
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a nation. Because 12 months is not long
enough to see what the...
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What the effects of that are going to
be, right? I think so. I think we've
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so frustrated for so long, that whole
unrest thing, that we wanted something
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happen sooner and faster.
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So where are we going?
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Our first stop will be the falls
themselves. I mean, who comes to
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and doesn't go to the falls?
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We're going to cross over to Zambia. Our
first activity.
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In Zimbabwe is to leave the country.
It's the only time we're going to cross
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over and see any other nation.
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Good, on our tour of Zimbabwe. Yeah, I
would have thought so.
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One of the great things about Zimbabwe
is to see the best bits, you only have
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leave the country once. You don't have
to take the key.
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Shippo told me that although the best
views belong to Zimbabwe, the actual
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are in Zambia.
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Apparently over a million tourists visit
Victoria Falls each year.
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an influx of visitors that remained
constant even during Zimbabwe's most
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troubled periods.
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Look at this, my favourite part of
Zimbabwe, Zambia. You are now entering
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Zambia.
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Having arrived in Zambia, we took a
short boat ride to Livingston Island,
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I fulfilled my contractual obligation to
get naked in every episode.
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I'm putting a lot of trust in you now.
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Well, don't do that.
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Thanks, cheaper.
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and made my way to the edge of the fall.
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See, but it's unbelievable.
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Yes! Oh my God!
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How amazing is that?
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That's incredible!
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Known to locals as Mossy Owatunya, the
smoke that thunders, Victoria Falls is
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the world's largest sheet of falling
water, the UNESCO World Heritage Site,
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one of the seven natural wonders of the
world.
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The Devil's Pool, situated right on the
edge of the falls, is they only open at
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specific times of the year, when the
current is gentle enough to prevent
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being swept away to their death.
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Although, to be honest, I'm not
convinced Crawley Council would have
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off.
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Normally, I would expect this to be the
big closer for my trip, and you've
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opened with it.
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Is it really going to get better than
this?
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It will.
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And this is the whole point, right? When
people arrive and they say they've seen
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them, this is all they've seen, but
there's so much more to see.
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Right. It's going to take a lot to top
this.
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Why don't you wear it? One more look.
One more look before we go back.
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This is amazing.
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Genuinely incredible.
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Cheapo explained that although Victoria
Falls has remained popular, few visitors
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have been venturing beyond this small
corner of the country.
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She wanted to show me what they were
missing out on, a grand tour of Zimbabwe
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that would take in...
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Wildlife.
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Stunning vistas.
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Wildlife.
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Vibrant modern cities.
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Wildlife.
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And Great Lakes.
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We would begin with a trip just up the
road to get up close and personal with
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some wildlife at the Victoria Falls
Wildlife Trust.
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If you were given the option to touch
one, would you? No.
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Why?
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Because I think if you touch a wild
animal,
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And it bites your arm off.
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Nobody feels sorry for you.
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But what if it's used to people?
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It might not have met somebody with the
same physique as me.
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And so it feels threatened?
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No, it doesn't feel threatened. It just
thinks, he looks chewy.
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I shouldn't be quieter.
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I could be summoning animals.
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Yeah, I mean, you're supposed to be
quiet and you'll laugh.
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Literally, I'm going to have to just not
say anything because you laugh at
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anything. What I don't want to do is say
something and then hear your laughter
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as I die.
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This is pretty cool, though, being
around here, isn't it?
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This is us.
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Oh, man.
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Hey! Oh my God, that is amazing.
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Sylvester is a cheetah whose entire
cheetah family were tracked down and
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murdered by an evil lion when he was
just a baby.
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Humans found him and cared for him, sort
of like a reverse jungle book.
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Then, when Sylvester was old enough to
be released back into the wild, he
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refused to go.
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Now he works as a sort of figurehead for
the country's attempts to protect their
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endangered cheetahs. An icon known as
Sylvester the Cheetah Ambassador.
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And I had been granted an audience.
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It is actually possible for us to go and
meet Sylvester and get to see him from
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close up. This is what I would consider
personally close.
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What is the code of conduct for
approaching Sylvester?
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We
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were
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told by Sylvester's handler that he's
very friendly. He then listed the 28
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things that you could do to make
Sylvester attack you.
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And it's very difficult to sort of fully
focus on how tame he is when you know
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that... If you're the wrong star sign,
it'll claw your face off.
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Hey, handsome boy. You notice he does
purr?
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Yeah.
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The sound that he's just making briefly.
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He does that when he's content and
comfortable.
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Hey, guys.
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Ooh, that was crazy.
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Sylvester, it turns out, moves very,
very slowly, unless I am anywhere near
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Because as soon as Cheapo and I sat down
to give him a stroke, he moved his head
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very, very quickly.
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which caused the immediate arrival of a
turtle head into my shorts.
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That's... Just peed a little. That was
unfortunate for my pants.
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We're going to back away now.
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Yeah.
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I've got to be honest with you. Now,
even if we get in the vehicle, he will
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able to track me because I've shat
myself.
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My first impression is I love it so far.
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I mean, how can you not?
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I saw one of the most incredible scenes
I've ever seen at Victoria Falls, and
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I've just hung out with the cheetah
ambassador.
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Do you know what I mean? Like, if I turn
around to you and said I'm not enjoying
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Zimbabwe, what does that say about me?
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Do you know what I mean?
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I love it.
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It's great.
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Is there any negative points about
Zimbabwe?
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Um, I would say the fucking flies.
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What's your feeling towards Chupa? Do
you think she finds you funny?
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I think Cheapo finds breathing funny.
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I don't think there is anything that
Cheapo wouldn't find funny. I genuinely
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think if I came over after doing this
little chat to you, went over to Cheapo
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and said, what have you been up to? And
I said, I was just explaining to the
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camera that I've recently had a
bereavement. I think she'd piss herself.
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I just found out that I'm basically had
a bereavement in the UK.
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When did this happen?
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I ate that you just did.
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I told you.
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I'm not supposed to laugh at that.
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No.
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The next morning, we set off on our
grand Zimbabwean adventure, heading
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towards the second city of Bulawayo.
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Are these commuter vehicles?
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Yes. How comfortable are they?
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You are trapped in there like sardines.
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Shepo had said that post -Migabi, the
Zimbabwean economy was still extremely
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fragile. At the time of my visit, there
were massive queues at every petrol
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station in the country.
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The fallout of the latest economic
crisis to have swept Zimbabwe.
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That's not just a little queue.
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Do people queue for hours? Oh yeah,
people will park their car in a petrol
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and maybe find someone to sit with their
car and...
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they'll go away, and that person that
you've left with your car calls you and
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like, hey, Ramesh, the queue is starting
to move, come back. And then you come
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back, and you start going.
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And how likely is it that I get a phone
call saying, hey, Ramesh, I now own your
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car?
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It's interesting, because I haven't
heard any stories of someone getting
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car stolen.
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Isn't that lovely? But where are you
going to drive it to, though? Oh, that's
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true.
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Good luck, mate.
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Chipo said that post -Mugabe, economic
crises were supposed to have been
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consigned to history.
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A former schoolteacher who fought
against Ian Smith's white government in
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Rhodesian Bush War, Robert Mugabe led
his ZANU -PF party to victory in the
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country's first election.
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Once a source of great hope for
Zimbabwe, his final years were beset by
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allegations of human rights abuses and a
series of financial meltdowns.
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the most infamous of which was the
eviction of the white farmers.
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This would have been one of the white
-owned farms.
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But this is still in operation,
obviously.
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Yes, there is farming that's still
taking place here.
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By the turn of the millennium, with
Mugabe desperately needing to blockade
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power base, the government initiated a
fast -track land reform programme,
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effectively transferring 4 ,000 white
farms to black ownership by force.
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To a lot of people, it looked like it
was an effort to shore up support and
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trying to figure out how to hold on to
power and saying the land should go back
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to black people. What was sad about that
is in the media, you would see that
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side where it was like the suffering of
the white families. And I don't minimize
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that at all because it was, it was
terrible for them.
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But then also now on the flip side, you
had.
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The effect of the reforms was
catastrophic.
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Without the experience of running large
farms, the crop soon failed.
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Zimbabwe went from being known as the
breadbasket of Africa to the basket case
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of Africa, with inflation at one point
hitting 179 .6 billion per cent.
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essentially like lost value hugely and
zeros just started to be added and i
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a couple of notes just to show you so
this is one billion yep and
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that isn't the biggest of the two notes
because this one is 20 trillion you'd be
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in a shop i've picked something up off
of a shelf i'm waiting it was one price
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by the time i get to the till it's a
different price are you serious no joke
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Sorry, I shouldn't laugh, it actually
happened.
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Yeah. And the prices of things were
doubling every day.
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How it came to an end is that the
economy was dollarised.
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So basically we adopted the US dollar as
the currency of the nation.
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With the land distribution and the
economic problems, we in Britain, you
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in the West or whatever, saw these
images and that is one of...
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The main reason is that people in their
heads decided that Zimbabwe was a no -go
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zone. You know, this isn't somewhere you
come.
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Particularly for, you know, if you're a
white person in Britain watching the TV
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and you see what's happening to white
people in Zimbabwe, why would you come?
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you know what I mean? And that is
something that has stayed with people.
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When the media is pushing this
narrative, it's a tough sell. But it's
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beautiful country and more people do
need to come and see that.
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And just switching up that narrative,
you're not in danger.
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We continued south towards Zimbabwe's
second city of Bulawayo.
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What was alarmingly referred to as a
quick drive.
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So, a six -hour drive, is that what
Zimbabwe folk think is OK, a six -hour
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drive?
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We could have flown, but I wanted you to
see the countryside. I get it, I get
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it. Along the way, Chupo wanted to show
me the Kami ruins, capital of a dynasty
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that had thrived in this area in the mid
-16th century.
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So where we're going, Kami ruins. I
think in order to understand Zimbabwe
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you have to look at the history of
Zimbabwe. And Kami ruins is a part
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of that. Okay. In terms of early
civilization in Zimbabwe.
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Does that make sense? It does make
sense. You've explained it really
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beautifully. Thank you.
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It shows proof that there were people
living, breathing, functioning quite
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before.
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colonialism started are you serious a
whole people was functioning before
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happily before uh cjr landed cjr
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this is john rose and he turned up and
he was like and he said wow there is
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nothing going on in this country i'm
gonna set it up i'm gonna and i'm gonna
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call it yeah
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That's a big move, isn't it? It is a big
move. That is a big move.
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Exactly. Like, what I think is a big
move is the first time you tell someone
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that's what you're thinking about
calling it.
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So, Cesar, what are you thinking about?
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I'm thinking... Um... Exactly.
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Rhodesia. Wait, your name?
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And then, you know, was that the first
attempt?
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He might have gone for Rodistan.
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Maybe. Maybe.
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Maybe. He thought...
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Rodilea. Rodilea.
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Rodipo. Cow. And now we're going to stop
because there is a cow.
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Come on, mate, there's loads of grass
there. Why would you go on the road?
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What a prick.
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Somebody later pointed out that roads
didn't actually decide the name of the
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country. It was just named in his
honour, but that sort of ruined the
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This is perfect.
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How so?
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Sorry, I mean, in England, when we say
perfect, we mean utter dog shit.
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Fuck, Adam.
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I missed that.
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For years, the very existence of Kami
and the larger related site at Great
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Zimbabwe was a source of controversy in
white -dominated Rhodesia.
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So whatever grain that was harvested
would have been stored in that area.
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As recently as the 1970s, archaeological
evidence was being suppressed to
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continue the pretense that black people
simply hadn't built these structures.
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They had a way that they found and
survived that was functional for them,
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just shows that people knew what they
were doing.
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One of the interesting things, I think,
with colonisation is the absolute.
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The indigenous people could have done
this on their own.
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But they did.
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Allegedly.
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This is clearly evidence that people had
a way of life.
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They existed. It was like a metropolis.
It was like its own little city.
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I just can't believe that white people
didn't have some involvement in this. Do
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you know what I mean? They had to have
done. I don't know what you mean.
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How is it possible?
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I just don't understand it.
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Oh, my God.
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At this point, the mildly annoying rain
shower, suddenly and without warning,
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turned into a lightning storm of
biblical proportions.
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We hid in the car.
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Ask me this question. In Zimbabwe, when
there's a storm, does it always sound
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like the apocalypse?
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No, actually.
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Usually it's just rain, but today is a
special kind of something.
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Okay.
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Did you see that?
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It's okay, it's not going to get out.
Why is the lightning like that?
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We decided to cut our losses and head
straight to Bulawayo.
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On the way.
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Chippo explained that a succession of
white minority governments culminated in
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the leadership of Ian Smith in the 60s
and 70s, who repeatedly blocked black
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pastor power in order to build his
whiter, brighter Rhodesia.
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I don't believe in black majority rule
ever in Rhodesia. Not in a thousand
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years.
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Many consider the problems experienced
by modern Zimbabwe to be a direct result
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of the oppressive policies of that
period.
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We are now sitting in... Rhodesia.
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Yes.
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So what is your feeling on places like
this?
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Architecturally speaking, I think it's
beautiful.
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Yeah.
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Historically, I think I find it
interesting.
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In the city of Bulawayo, we had checked
into the Bulawayo Club, founded at the
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end of the 19th century.
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With pictures of Cecil Rose adorning the
walls...
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This old -fashioned gentleman's club is
a throwback to a bygone era, when the
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place would have played host to the
great, the good and the not -so -good of
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Rhodesia.
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You're being very polite, but you're
sitting here and you disagree with it,
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don't you?
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I... It's great.
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You're talking to me like I'm one of
Rhodes' descendants.
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Just tell me what you really think. You
don't like it? I don't... I don't... I
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don't like it.
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I think one of the reasons I find spaces
like this a little cringy is because
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once upon a time, there were spaces for
strictly white men,
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and anyone that looked like me was part
of the workforce.
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Yeah. The other way of looking at it,
though, is that it's a sign of how times
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have changed for the better. If this had
happened...
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In the past, that you and me had come in
here and had a drink on there, they
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would have just burnt this sofa.
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Possibly. Yeah.
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Unusable. With us on it. Yeah, probably.
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Symbolically, this place is quite
difficult, but we will go into it a
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more tomorrow when we go to Cecil John
Rhodes' grave and talk about the history
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a little bit.
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And then we'll also...
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Have some rhino encountered.
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Really? Yeah.
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Yeah. The rhino is one of the big five.
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I love rhinos. Do you really? Yeah.
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So we'll get to see them. Yeah, I'm
looking forward to it. But not too
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But you've touched a cat that can eat
you. I touched a cheetah and then almost
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immediately touched cloth when it moved
its head really quickly.
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Yeah? Leo?
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Oh, you've got a massive gas canister.
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The following day, Cheapo bowled into my
room at 7am and declared that it would
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be a good idea to make up some homebrew
to take with us on our trip to the
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national park.
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I don't know about you, but I think this
feels so safe.
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A gas canister you've bought from the
market, we're now going to use to make
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homebrew. Exactly.
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I can't see this going wrong.
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Her plan was to make a vat of maheo, a
sort of local beer made up from powder.
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Although she claimed that all
Zimbabweans do this all the time, Chipo
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extremely hazy on the details, and it
was my guess that this was the first
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she'd attempted the process.
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OK, here we go. This is starting to
paste up now.
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That is pasting up.
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There we go. That's what I'm talking
about. That's good mahea.
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Good mixing. Well done, sir.
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We need boiling water.
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Go on then.
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Get the kettle on the go.
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I don't trust homemade shit.
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You know when people say, oh, do you
want to try this chutney I've just made?
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No.
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Because I've been to your house and it's
rank.
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We didn't rinse out the pot. I don't
know what the powder is.
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We're using a sex toy to mix it.
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We're doing it in the bathroom because
we should be able to extinguish the fire
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if it gets out of control.
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Those taps barely work.
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Give you an idea.
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Is this a thing that everybody knows how
to make here? There are enough people
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that know how to make it properly.
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But it's been commercialised, so you get
different flavours.
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So you can buy this ready -made?
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Yes. Why buy it instantly when you can
spend hours making a much worse version?
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Well, that is not lumpy at all.
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I don't know if I'm going to be able to
concentrate on anything else today.
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Wait until you taste it.
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Mm -hm.
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It's sort of...
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Do you... You know Maltesers? If you
don't one of them and fuck them on your
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arsehole, it stings.
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Leaving the beer to brew for the day, we
set off to Motobo National Park, known
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for its gravity -defying balancing
rocks, the grave of Cecil Rhodes, and
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population of rhino.
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Although the park is open to the public,
I was told that the relatively low
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numbers of tourists in Zimbabwe meant
that we would pretty much have the place
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to ourselves.
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We'd be shown around by Ian, one of the
guides who works here looking after the
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population of endangered rhinos.
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What's the percentage chance we're
actually going to see some rhino?
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99%. 99 %?
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Yeah.
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And have you got black and white rhinos
here?
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23 black and then just over 40 white.
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Do they ever get it on and then you get
a little baby grey rhino?
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Incredibly, never that we've ever
recorded. Really?
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When a rhino's ready to mate, two males
need to fight for a female to reach a
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peak of oestrus for conception to occur.
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Wow. She gets turned on watching the
guys beating living daylights out of
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other. Yeah. Yeah.
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There's a pub near where I live called
the Jubilee Oak.
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Okay. And it's a bit like that there.
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A couple of guys fighting and then one
of them takes the girl home.
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Do you still get blown away when you see
this?
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I did consider explaining to Ian how
it's possible to not love your kid, but
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decided to let it go.
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Clearly,
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Ian was infatuated with his 63 Rhino and
wanted me to get the experience of
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spotting them from the front of his
Jeep.
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How safe is this, to be honest?
469
00:30:22,510 --> 00:30:23,510
Not very.
470
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:31,030
Sorry. Shut up, chief. There we go.
471
00:30:34,130 --> 00:30:35,130
Are you getting a strap?
472
00:30:35,290 --> 00:30:36,650
No, we can't tie you in.
473
00:30:37,670 --> 00:30:39,230
We haven't lost anybody yet.
474
00:31:02,730 --> 00:31:05,630
There's no traffic coming the other
direction. Don't take the piss, Ian.
475
00:31:06,770 --> 00:31:07,770
Shit!
476
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:11,950
Shit!
477
00:31:16,550 --> 00:31:16,990
I
478
00:31:16,990 --> 00:31:25,270
did
479
00:31:25,270 --> 00:31:28,950
ask about the health and safety
situation and Ian explained that it was
480
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:29,950
perfectly safe.
481
00:31:30,350 --> 00:31:33,990
At least it was perfectly safe in
comparison to the rhinos, which, it
482
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:36,070
transpired, were extremely dangerous.
483
00:31:36,430 --> 00:31:39,130
I cannot overemphasise the danger.
484
00:31:40,190 --> 00:31:46,670
A white rhino will run 50, 55 k's an
hour and will hit top speed in three or
485
00:31:46,670 --> 00:31:47,670
four seconds.
486
00:31:47,850 --> 00:31:48,850
Oh, my God.
487
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:51,330
Rhinos get scared, things go wrong.
488
00:31:51,690 --> 00:31:53,990
If that happens, freeze.
489
00:31:54,850 --> 00:31:57,350
You run, you get chased.
490
00:31:57,670 --> 00:31:58,670
Very simple.
491
00:31:59,220 --> 00:32:00,540
only in an emergency.
492
00:32:01,340 --> 00:32:05,780
And then you are going to hear me
shouting and screaming, run, get the...
493
00:32:05,780 --> 00:32:08,980
Dodge. You'll know all about it. You can
swear if it's actually happening. Find
494
00:32:08,980 --> 00:32:11,700
a rock or a tree, get out of their way.
495
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:14,100
OK, let's do it.
496
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,440
Let's do it.
497
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:18,240
I don't know what I'm trying to lead.
498
00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:20,640
You look so confident.
499
00:32:34,830 --> 00:32:35,830
Through the trees.
500
00:32:36,510 --> 00:32:37,510
Big grey shape.
501
00:32:41,370 --> 00:32:42,370
Oh, my God.
502
00:32:49,390 --> 00:32:51,170
Now we're going to go and say hello and
get close.
503
00:32:51,670 --> 00:32:53,330
This feels really close.
504
00:33:04,110 --> 00:33:05,830
It's a good boy. It's a good boy.
505
00:33:17,150 --> 00:33:18,710
How great is it to be?
506
00:33:18,910 --> 00:33:24,750
I cannot believe this is up five or six
meters away from a couple of tons of
507
00:33:24,750 --> 00:33:29,630
beast. And did you feel how there's no
aggression? There's no threat. An animal
508
00:33:29,630 --> 00:33:31,230
that's 50 million years old.
509
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,920
They're dying out, and we're the only
reason they've been killed.
510
00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:38,760
And this is because people are using the
rhino horn for...? Supposedly Viagra.
511
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,600
Viagra and medicine.
512
00:33:41,940 --> 00:33:46,120
In order to prevent the rhinos from
being poached, the park rangers have
513
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,640
the horns, a common practice amongst
conservationists.
514
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,480
It doesn't hurt the animals, and Ian
explained that the horns will grow back,
515
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,900
the same way that a fingernail does.
516
00:33:56,340 --> 00:33:58,820
But even now, the animals remain at
risk.
517
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,420
It's so mad that it's so valuable But it
doesn't actually doing it. I mean, it's
518
00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:11,100
stupid They disappeared on us. We go and
see if we can try and catch up with
519
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:13,659
them Yeah, there's no chance that
they've come around and they're about to
520
00:34:13,659 --> 00:34:20,540
attack I Don't know. There's always a
chance Except where did he go
521
00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:21,620
now? I've just lost him.
522
00:34:22,300 --> 00:34:27,420
Just give me a second. I've got to go
back. God. This is our aliens You can
523
00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:31,500
where he's been stepping We can't see
them, we can't see them. Suddenly it
524
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:32,500
out straight there.
525
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:34,980
Cheapo, Romesh Kebab.
526
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:37,260
But Ian's quite far away from us now.
527
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,639
If a rhino turns up over there and
charges us, let me be absolutely clear,
528
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:43,780
will leave you behind in a heartbeat.
529
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:46,780
Are you supposed to stand still? No.
You're supposed to stand still if you're
530
00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:48,080
the only people that are being targeted.
531
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:49,699
You can stand still.
532
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:51,138
We're gone.
533
00:34:51,139 --> 00:34:52,139
We're gone.
534
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:53,500
We're gone.
535
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,780
You left me hanging before. It was
really awkward.
536
00:34:56,020 --> 00:34:57,780
Yeah, and I'll leave you hanging if a
rhino turns up.
537
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,980
There they are. To the left, the termite
nine is a grey bum walking to the right
538
00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:05,980
behind the trees.
539
00:35:07,180 --> 00:35:09,020
They head when they want to go, they go.
540
00:35:09,580 --> 00:35:10,920
Come on, let's go catch them.
541
00:35:13,940 --> 00:35:16,140
How many more have you got in the park?
542
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,480
Just over 60.
543
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,300
Nine years ago I had over 156.
544
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,920
The rest have been poached.
545
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:28,440
I didn't know until I spoke to you how
desperate the situation was for them.
546
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,420
The scariest part is chances are your
kids will be looking at photos and
547
00:35:32,420 --> 00:35:37,680
memories saying, guess what Dad saw? I
will probably never see that in my life.
548
00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:40,840
I truly hope I'm wrong.
549
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,760
You see those figures and stats so much
that you just become completely
550
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,520
desensitised to it. But then when you
talk to him today, you just realise that
551
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:55,600
it's very real. And in the very short
term, they could be gone completely. I
552
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:01,260
mean, my issue is that my voice and
face... display, I would say, close to
553
00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:02,260
sincerity.
554
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,980
So, in many ways, I'm the wrong guy to
be doing this.
555
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,400
But what can we do?
556
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:10,720
We're not going to be able to airlift in
Sue Perkins now at this stage, are we?
557
00:36:20,260 --> 00:36:21,480
It's Fable. Wow!
558
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,320
That is special. Fable ahead of us.
559
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:26,280
And a wood pig.
560
00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:44,590
As the sun started to set, we headed off
towards a granite peak known as the
561
00:36:44,590 --> 00:36:47,870
View of the World, the final resting
place of Cecil Rhodes.
562
00:36:49,410 --> 00:36:53,930
Always controversial, Rhodes has become
an even more divisive figure in recent
563
00:36:53,930 --> 00:36:59,090
years. The Rhodes Must Fall movement
successfully campaigned for the removal
564
00:36:59,090 --> 00:37:03,230
his image at universities across South
Africa, and a highly charged debate over
565
00:37:03,230 --> 00:37:07,070
a statue outside Oriel College in Oxford
continues to rumble on.
566
00:37:08,190 --> 00:37:09,890
I wanted to know how Ian...
567
00:37:10,090 --> 00:37:13,690
who takes tourists to the gravesite
every day, felt about the controversy.
568
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:18,250
Since I've been here, I've been talking
a lot about Rhodes, Cecil Rhodes.
569
00:37:18,530 --> 00:37:21,410
Yes. And what is your take on him?
570
00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:23,850
One of the most amazing men that ever
lived.
571
00:37:25,150 --> 00:37:29,930
Because? He did more in a shorter period
of time than any other person dead or
572
00:37:29,930 --> 00:37:30,908
alive.
573
00:37:30,910 --> 00:37:36,090
Rhodes made his first million pounds in
1870 at the age of 18, dealing the
574
00:37:36,090 --> 00:37:37,090
diamond stock exchange.
575
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:41,440
22, he founded De Beers Diamonds.
576
00:37:42,020 --> 00:37:44,280
23, he created the Brissaf Company.
577
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,260
27, he was Member of Parliament.
578
00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:49,500
37, he was Prime Minister.
579
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:56,700
At 49, at his death, the richest man in
the world owned six countries and two
580
00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:57,700
named after him.
581
00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:03,400
So what is your opinion on why, in
Britain, the idea of celebrating roads
582
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,580
considered a tricky issue?
583
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,960
No, because Britain's embarrassed
about... The historical legacy.
584
00:38:10,220 --> 00:38:12,720
We can't look at it from today's
mindset.
585
00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:15,080
They try and push that he was racist.
586
00:38:15,620 --> 00:38:17,560
That's one thing Rhodes never was.
587
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:26,360
It's very interesting to listen to you
talk about your admiration of
588
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,720
Cecil John Rhodes, right? And walking
through how you view that.
589
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,860
And I, as a black Zimbabwean woman,
590
00:38:38,650 --> 00:38:44,230
I struggle with part of his legacy
because, you know, one of the quotations
591
00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:48,110
is attributed to him, and I'm not going
to quote it correctly at all, but it was
592
00:38:48,110 --> 00:38:52,790
referring to natives as barbaric. And to
me, I'm just like, wow.
593
00:38:53,710 --> 00:38:56,930
That's exactly what, and I hear what
you're saying, but that's exactly why
594
00:38:56,930 --> 00:38:59,370
you've got to take it in context of its
time.
595
00:38:59,950 --> 00:39:04,730
I think it's hard for me to not see it
as a racial thing, that someone comes
596
00:39:04,730 --> 00:39:09,710
arrives and looks at my people and calls
them, refers to us as savages and
597
00:39:09,710 --> 00:39:15,090
barbaric and that I have to learn the
Anglo -Saxon way because it is superior
598
00:39:15,090 --> 00:39:20,330
the way I'm living. You arrived and
there was a way of life, but it's just
599
00:39:20,330 --> 00:39:22,390
disrespect.
600
00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:25,160
No, it's not disrespect.
601
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:26,500
It is disrespect.
602
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,880
It's not. To look at me and tell me the
way you're doing things is wrong. Like,
603
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:37,560
I'm sorry, man. You just don't get
around and say that. Like, you can't
604
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,560
that.
605
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,080
Don't. Don't feel like you're a superior
being.
606
00:39:43,460 --> 00:39:47,540
They weren't saying they were superior.
They were, though. When you say the
607
00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:52,960
Anglo -Saxon way of life is the way that
people should do things because the way
608
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,200
my people are doing things is barbaric,
I'm sorry, that is a superiority
609
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,620
complex. You are looking down on me.
610
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Cheapo, you know, she'd been saying to
me earlier in the week that she felt
611
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,600
this kind of conversation hasn't
happened enough.
612
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,100
Well, she tucked in.
613
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:16,900
It was interesting to hear the same
thing being presented with,
614
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:21,180
from completely different, you know, the
same facts, if you like, being
615
00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:24,120
presented with completely different
filters.
616
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:31,400
And it was interesting to listen to, and
also a great illustration of the
617
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:36,220
futility of political argument, because
neither of those two guys were ever
618
00:40:36,220 --> 00:40:38,140
going to go, do you know what, I'll hold
my hands up.
619
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:42,880
It was... Yeah, it got really heated.
620
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:48,960
Oh, God.
621
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:50,540
Where is his actual grave?
622
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,999
Up top.
623
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Can you point?
624
00:40:53,020 --> 00:40:54,100
My hands are full.
625
00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:56,900
But we did it.
626
00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:04,760
Having said our goodbyes to Ian, we made
our way to the top of the hill to watch
627
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,320
the sunset and enjoy our homemade beer.
628
00:41:07,850 --> 00:41:08,850
You've done good, sir.
629
00:41:10,370 --> 00:41:11,750
Don't turn around just yet.
630
00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:17,210
Here lie the remains of the man himself,
631
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:19,890
Cecil John Rhodes.
632
00:41:21,870 --> 00:41:24,570
Look, it's called World's View.
633
00:41:25,770 --> 00:41:26,770
Wow.
634
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:32,230
Did you enjoy your day?
635
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:35,790
Yes, I did enjoy the day, very much. I
couldn't help noticing you got a little
636
00:41:35,790 --> 00:41:36,790
bit passionate earlier.
637
00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:40,460
I didn't realise how worked up I would
get about the whole conversation.
638
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:44,560
But I'm glad to have the debate.
639
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,380
And I don't know if it's a debate that
we're having enough of.
640
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:52,120
Because that's the difficult thing,
isn't it? You're not debating with an
641
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,960
He's a nice guy who just has an opposing
view to you. Yeah.
642
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:58,800
When you look across at all of this, you
do think the perfect thing to do now
643
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,320
would be to sit and drink something we
made in a bathtub.
644
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,300
Are you ready to partake?
645
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,340
Of our concoction.
646
00:42:09,460 --> 00:42:10,480
Why are you saying all that?
647
00:42:11,180 --> 00:42:13,040
It hasn't changed colour at all, has it?
648
00:42:13,260 --> 00:42:14,260
No.
649
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:17,240
No,
650
00:42:17,460 --> 00:42:18,800
I think you should go first. You're a
guest.
651
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:21,900
Knock it back.
652
00:42:28,740 --> 00:42:29,740
So, yes?
653
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,920
It tastes like somebody's already drank
it.
654
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:37,230
You're right, that's difficult.
655
00:42:39,050 --> 00:42:40,610
That was hard.
656
00:42:42,790 --> 00:42:45,150
That is horrible.
657
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:50,770
I did say, though, that some people add
sugar, right?
658
00:42:51,130 --> 00:42:53,830
Do you know what it tastes like? It
tastes like yogurt made out of hate.
659
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,700
I was roughly halfway through my time in
Zimbabwe, and apart from the terrifying
660
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:10,660
experience with the cheetah and the
terrifying experience with the
661
00:43:10,660 --> 00:43:15,580
and the awkward argument about Cecil
Rose and the disgusting homebrew, I had
662
00:43:15,580 --> 00:43:16,860
loved every moment of it.
663
00:43:18,020 --> 00:43:19,160
This has been amazing.
664
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,340
It's like one of the... I would say it's
one of the best places I've been to.
665
00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:27,460
When people think about visiting
Zimbabwe and the reason that people
666
00:43:27,959 --> 00:43:31,160
perhaps doubt, you know, not wanting to
come and visit Zimbabwe, certainly from
667
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,880
our country, is because of their
perception of there being political
668
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,680
here. And that is not something that I
have seen firsthand since my time here
669
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,000
Zimbabwe. But we've been out and about
and looking at, you know, nature and
670
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,060
wildlife, etc.
671
00:43:44,260 --> 00:43:46,040
So you're not going to come up against
that as much.
672
00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:49,220
For the simple fact there's not as many
people around it. You know, we're
673
00:43:49,220 --> 00:43:54,140
looking at nature more than anything
else. But when we go to Harare, that's
674
00:43:54,140 --> 00:43:55,140
I think...
675
00:43:55,470 --> 00:43:59,390
those issues have become more prevalent
in the trip. And so I'm interested to
676
00:43:59,390 --> 00:44:05,870
see how much that is going to colour the
rest of my time here.
677
00:44:06,670 --> 00:44:11,790
I would love to say to people, you know,
you come to Zimbabwe and you get really
678
00:44:11,790 --> 00:44:16,490
close to wildlife, and that's such a
wonderful thing. But I would also say
679
00:44:16,490 --> 00:44:21,470
one of the most terrifying things about
Zimbabwe is that you get really close to
680
00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:22,470
wildlife.
681
00:44:22,670 --> 00:44:24,110
Because this morning...
682
00:44:26,220 --> 00:44:28,680
They found something that I don't think
I'll ever forget.
683
00:44:37,260 --> 00:44:44,020
That is a black mamba that was found in
the honeymoon suite
684
00:44:44,020 --> 00:44:45,040
where we're staying.
685
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,660
That couple are both dead.
686
00:44:51,630 --> 00:44:55,290
Apparently the honeymoon couple woke up
and then saw one of the most dangerous
687
00:44:55,290 --> 00:45:00,530
snakes in the world on their roof. He
called for hotel staff and they came and
688
00:45:00,530 --> 00:45:04,690
shot the snake dead.
689
00:45:06,250 --> 00:45:12,290
That same woman from that couple the day
before had been
690
00:45:12,290 --> 00:45:18,950
on a little safari trip and was
stampeded by an elephant and
691
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:20,670
the elephant was shot dead.
692
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,160
I can only assume that what has happened
is this snake was very good friends
693
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,160
with that elephant.
694
00:45:36,780 --> 00:45:40,940
We continued our journey northeast to
Zimbabwe's capital, Harare.
695
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,040
Sheepo's home city and the seat of
government.
696
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:48,920
From there, the plan was to head back up
north to Lake Kariba on the Zambia
697
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,020
border and check out some more wildlife.
698
00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:54,320
We're heading into Harare. Yeah.
699
00:45:55,060 --> 00:45:56,200
Formerly Salisbury.
700
00:45:56,820 --> 00:45:58,280
Formerly Salisbury? Yeah.
701
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:01,460
What is wrong with the name Salisbury?
702
00:46:01,740 --> 00:46:03,380
It's a perfectly good name.
703
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,660
Look, I'm saying formerly.
704
00:46:05,980 --> 00:46:06,980
Harare.
705
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,860
There is nothing wrong with Harare, sir.
706
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,320
OK, I don't want to offend you.
707
00:46:16,540 --> 00:46:18,340
Yep. But you're going to anyway?
708
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,180
Yeah. No, it's normally what somebody
says before they say something hugely
709
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:22,180
racist.
710
00:46:23,020 --> 00:46:25,440
But why are your people savages?
711
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:34,600
Harare is somewhere where I think it's
fair to say British people, up until
712
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,500
recently, they wouldn't come here
because of what's been going on. When
713
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:41,540
think about what's outside of Harare.
714
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,980
You know, you have the Vic Falls, you
have Great Zimbabwe, you have all those
715
00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:46,980
places.
716
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:55,260
It's just... I think the capital or city
doesn't have, like, a huge drawcard for
717
00:46:55,260 --> 00:46:56,260
tourists.
718
00:46:59,340 --> 00:47:03,280
Cheapo had all but admitted that
Harare's not worth visiting, but with a
719
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,100
kill, she took me along to the market
area of Mbare.
720
00:47:12,650 --> 00:47:19,510
Embare is the oldest township in Harare.
And the energy is amazing,
721
00:47:19,630 --> 00:47:20,630
I'm sure you can tell.
722
00:47:20,810 --> 00:47:21,810
There's certainly an energy.
723
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:27,070
Yeah. So you're from around here, are
you? My mom spent part of her life in
724
00:47:27,070 --> 00:47:28,070
Embare.
725
00:47:30,290 --> 00:47:31,290
Hi.
726
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:33,030
Hello, how are you? Hello.
727
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:34,430
Hello. Hello.
728
00:47:36,650 --> 00:47:39,850
Chippo told me that Embare is the oldest
township in the city.
729
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,560
and it's marked the city's economic
heartbeat.
730
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,620
Here, packed into eight square
kilometres, 14 ,000 vendors ply their
731
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:53,220
This is how a lot of people make their
hustle, by coming out here.
732
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,760
It's so enormous.
733
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,760
Like, it just goes on forever. You know
what enormous means.
734
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,200
But, um...
735
00:48:03,020 --> 00:48:06,720
It's like a massive department store.
You go through the fruit and veg bit,
736
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,520
then you go through the clothing aisle,
and then you go to the hardware store.
737
00:48:09,780 --> 00:48:12,520
There's even a doctor's round there, and
you can literally get anything you
738
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:17,000
want. It feels like if I was trying to
source helicopter parts, some bloke
739
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,000
here would have them.
740
00:48:18,340 --> 00:48:22,720
I love coming to Mare for clothes
shopping because... So do you still come
741
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:23,419
clothes shopping?
742
00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:24,480
Yeah, totally.
743
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:30,260
It's affordable, and it's good stuff. A
lot of Zimbabweans come to places like
744
00:48:30,260 --> 00:48:31,260
this because...
745
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,220
It matches what they have in their
pocket. You know, they can't go to a
746
00:48:35,220 --> 00:48:36,178
clothing store.
747
00:48:36,180 --> 00:48:41,020
It's just like pleasant chaos, if I
describe it. It doesn't feel dodgy. I
748
00:48:41,060 --> 00:48:46,640
we're attracting more attention because
of the camera, but, like, it's fine.
749
00:48:47,740 --> 00:48:51,300
When you come to Harare, I think one
should come to Mbare.
750
00:48:51,860 --> 00:48:52,860
It's amazing.
751
00:48:55,140 --> 00:48:57,560
I was in the market for a megaphone,
actually, didn't I?
752
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,540
Hi, Ramesh. Bernard.
753
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,060
Bernard. Nice to meet you.
754
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,120
That evening, we met up with some of
Cheapo's friends at a local restaurant.
755
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,320
Thank you so much.
756
00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:20,560
What's been your favourite place to
visit on this trip?
757
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:26,200
I very much enjoyed seeing the rhinos.
We went for a walk with a cheetah.
758
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:27,700
Me and a cheetah.
759
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:31,780
We tried to make mayo.
760
00:49:32,460 --> 00:49:37,400
So let me explain to you, I'll tell you
how it went down. We made it in a
761
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,380
bathtub. In a bathtub?
762
00:49:39,950 --> 00:49:42,650
It was absolutely dreadful.
763
00:49:43,570 --> 00:49:46,030
But it has been amazing, genuinely
amazing.
764
00:49:46,310 --> 00:49:52,210
But there is something that feels
slightly wrong about having a great time
765
00:49:52,210 --> 00:49:54,450
taking advantage of a country's
hospitality.
766
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,560
when you feel like the people there are
not having a good time.
767
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,020
That's always been the issue with Zim,
when Zim was sort of boycotted or
768
00:50:01,020 --> 00:50:04,960
blacklisted. It wasn't the people in
power that actually suffer.
769
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,200
It's the one right at the bottom who
don't have jobs. Do you know what I
770
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:13,920
It's like all our industries then die,
and the people in power still, you know,
771
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,500
like, live their lives as normal.
772
00:50:15,780 --> 00:50:17,760
You need to spend your money there.
773
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,740
You're making it right. Making it right.
774
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,480
Before I left Zimbabwe, Cheapo wanted to
show me one final destination.
775
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,520
So we jumped back into the car and
headed north to Lake Kariba, a massive
776
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,360
-made lake on the Zambezi River.
777
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,900
There, Cheapo said we'd be staying on a
houseboat and seeing more lovely
778
00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:55,880
animals. By this point, I was
unsurprised to hear that it would be a
779
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,880
drive away.
780
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,640
So how did you enjoy Harare?
781
00:51:00,020 --> 00:51:03,780
Well, first of all, I loved your
friends.
782
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:10,060
They're cool, huh? They were lovely. I
actually think it's one of the places I
783
00:51:10,060 --> 00:51:11,520
think you should come to when you come
to Zim.
784
00:51:12,460 --> 00:51:13,319
Oh, good.
785
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,320
Yeah.
786
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,480
When you come to Zim, you have to go to
Kariba. It's beautiful.
787
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:20,640
Hopefully we'll see some animals.
788
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,000
Right.
789
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,880
What kind of animals are we talking
about?
790
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:25,860
Hopefully we'll see elephants.
791
00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:27,320
Yeah, like elephants.
792
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,940
It would be nice to see some crocs.
793
00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:34,300
Crocs can fuck off, yeah. What else?
794
00:51:35,180 --> 00:51:36,700
Hippos. Like hippos?
795
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,540
In Madagascar? She's great, the hippo,
isn't she?
796
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,160
She's so lovely.
797
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:46,620
She's just concerned about if her bum
looks big in this or whatever.
798
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,260
Yeah. She wants to shag that giraffe.
799
00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:51,540
Do you know what I mean?
800
00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:56,660
Imagine what it would look like, a
giraffe and a hippo getting up.
801
00:51:57,220 --> 00:51:58,260
What would you call the baby?
802
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,200
A gerippo?
803
00:52:00,740 --> 00:52:03,820
Like a baby gerippo.
804
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,840
That kid's having a tough time at
school.
805
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,100
Massive arse, long neck.
806
00:52:11,540 --> 00:52:12,560
Absolute shocker.
807
00:52:14,820 --> 00:52:18,120
Don't sit with that kid. What happened
at school today? I got bullied again.
808
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,500
Why? Because I look like this.
809
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,680
We arrived at our final destination,
Lake Kariba, the world's largest man
810
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,780
reservoir, covering an area of almost 6
,000 square kilometres.
811
00:52:35,180 --> 00:52:39,520
Kariba is seen as one of the big
potential growth spots for the country,
812
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,060
for its world -class fishing and
houseboats.
813
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,300
Feels a little bit small to spend the
night on.
814
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,520
We'll be fine.
815
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:49,500
Hello?
816
00:52:49,860 --> 00:52:50,860
Ramesh.
817
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:52,160
Yeah, boy.
818
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:54,840
Wow!
819
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,540
This is a lot faster than I thought it
was going to be. Yeah.
820
00:52:57,980 --> 00:53:00,620
Can you see that? That's where we're
headed. Oh, cool.
821
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,440
Oh, God.
822
00:53:02,830 --> 00:53:03,970
Are you slightly scared?
823
00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:06,690
Welcome
824
00:53:06,690 --> 00:53:14,550
on
825
00:53:14,550 --> 00:53:15,550
board. Thank you.
826
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:19,990
Wow. Wow.
827
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:22,910
Thank you.
828
00:53:23,330 --> 00:53:24,450
Just come in the room.
829
00:53:27,590 --> 00:53:29,970
The plan was to head to the other side
of the lake.
830
00:53:30,350 --> 00:53:34,010
to see the abundant wildlife on the
shores of Matusa Dono National Park.
831
00:53:34,550 --> 00:53:37,530
This is great. Finally, this show steps
up to what I deserve.
832
00:53:38,430 --> 00:53:40,310
And let's go uptown here again.
833
00:53:41,390 --> 00:53:43,690
This is so good. I'm starting to get
emotional.
834
00:53:44,090 --> 00:53:45,110
I think you're going to enjoy it.
835
00:53:45,590 --> 00:53:46,590
Welcome it.
836
00:53:50,030 --> 00:53:51,030
Thank you.
837
00:53:51,110 --> 00:53:52,790
Thank you so much. Welcome it.
838
00:53:55,390 --> 00:53:58,370
Is this something that Zimbabweans would
do?
839
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,500
If the boat can afford it, they do it.
840
00:54:02,780 --> 00:54:09,140
I mean, being a landlocked nation, this
would be our equivalent, I guess, of
841
00:54:09,140 --> 00:54:13,520
going to the sea. It's a massive... Ice
world dead ahead!
842
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,720
It was still a five -hour boat ride to
the far side of the lake.
843
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,540
And so we whiled away the time doing
this.
844
00:54:41,359 --> 00:54:43,340
That's it. Keep going. Keep going. Keep
going.
845
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:44,920
Action.
846
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,480
Beginning to pull apart.
847
00:55:06,140 --> 00:55:08,520
Sleeper, can you just let me on? I need
you to let go.
848
00:55:18,860 --> 00:55:22,600
Back in the land of professional
integrity, we had arrived at the other
849
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,158
the lake.
850
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,160
Look at this.
851
00:55:24,220 --> 00:55:28,320
We duly jumped onto one of the smaller
vessels and headed off towards the
852
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,320
waiting wildlife.
853
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,260
What can you see?
854
00:55:34,340 --> 00:55:36,160
I can see my own eye.
855
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:43,400
Can you see anything?
856
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:46,140
Where? There's an elephant.
857
00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:48,040
Where? Oh, there, shit!
858
00:55:49,540 --> 00:55:50,540
Oh, yeah.
859
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,320
Looks like an elephant.
860
00:55:53,380 --> 00:55:56,180
But I don't want to properly confirm
until I'm a bit closer.
861
00:55:58,100 --> 00:55:59,460
Oh, no, that definitely is an elephant.
862
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,760
This is amazing, isn't it?
863
00:56:02,380 --> 00:56:05,920
It is. It's amazing how long it takes me
to find it with the binoculars.
864
00:56:06,980 --> 00:56:08,060
This is so cool.
865
00:56:08,540 --> 00:56:09,540
It is.
866
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:11,100
Oh, my God.
867
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,280
Simultaneous piss and shit from that
elephant.
868
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:14,820
Isn't that amazing?
869
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:16,100
It's incredible.
870
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,820
And he is, I can tell you now, packing.
871
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:23,840
I am half -minded to stand up and
applaud.
872
00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:29,880
Can you see that?
873
00:56:30,180 --> 00:56:31,180
Yeah.
874
00:56:39,020 --> 00:56:42,860
I mean, you think about the wildlife
experiences I've had since I've been
875
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:47,080
One of them would be incredible, but to
have so many in such a short... period
876
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:52,540
of time and to get this close it's mad
basically i've had it ingrained into me
877
00:56:52,540 --> 00:56:58,200
as we all have in britain that because
of robert mcgarvey's reign that this was
878
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,320
basically a no -go era the truth is it's
an amazing country yes it's got a
879
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,840
complicated history yes up until
recently there was a political unrest
880
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,760
things are still in the balance a little
bit but the truth is that doesn't you
881
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,920
know that doesn't affect you as a
visitor here
882
00:57:13,900 --> 00:57:17,460
Zimbabweans themselves want people to
come and visit. And if you do come and
883
00:57:17,460 --> 00:57:21,380
visit, you are putting money into the
country and you are helping the country.
884
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:26,820
It feels, from a British perspective,
relatively undiscovered because of the
885
00:57:26,820 --> 00:57:28,500
fact that we've stayed away for so long.
886
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:33,960
It is one of the most impressive
countries that I've ever been to.
887
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:39,340
And so amazing that you almost think...
Selfishly, you almost think it would be
888
00:57:39,340 --> 00:57:40,840
a shame if everyone found out about it.
889
00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:45,020
I mean, this is properly amazing.
890
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,120
OK, calm down. It's literally right
there.
891
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,480
Jesus. Oh, my God, it's properly looking
right at you.
892
00:57:58,140 --> 00:58:03,560
What I know about Mongolia is being in
the middle of nowhere.
893
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,120
This is pretty weird.
894
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:14,090
Do a good job, or in the training,
you'll be smashed.
76885
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